From 48fdcf10561c4e94fbcc4c589a2b72bb888b3ecb Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Ed Sanders Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 12:19:28 +0000 Subject: [PATCH] Remove data-mw-comment-name attribute from subscribe links The HeadingItem's name is now present in the DOM, so just traverse to it and use that instead. Change-Id: If28e1588742513d606e3d8fcfb259b85acc0a873 --- includes/CommentFormatter.php | 1 - modules/topicsubscriptions.js | 38 +- ...no-paragraph-oldparser-formattedreply.html | 86 ++--- .../en-big-oldparser-formattedreply.html | 340 +++++++++--------- .../for-parser-cache-formattedreply.html | 2 +- .../fr-unsigned-oldparser-formattedreply.html | 50 +-- .../it-unsigned-oldparser-formattedreply.html | 64 ++-- .../pl-big-oldparser-formattedreply.html | 60 ++-- .../signatures-funny-formattedreply.html | 6 +- .../unclosed-font-formattedreply.html | 8 +- .../wrappers/wrappers-formattedreply.html | 22 +- 11 files changed, 352 insertions(+), 325 deletions(-) diff --git a/includes/CommentFormatter.php b/includes/CommentFormatter.php index b74640fe6..02a5c1376 100644 --- a/includes/CommentFormatter.php +++ b/includes/CommentFormatter.php @@ -234,7 +234,6 @@ class CommentFormatter { $subscribeLink->setAttribute( 'class', 'ext-discussiontools-init-section-subscribe-link' ); $subscribeLink->setAttribute( 'role', 'button' ); $subscribeLink->setAttribute( 'tabindex', '0' ); - $subscribeLink->setAttribute( 'data-mw-comment-name', $itemName ); $subscribeLink->setAttribute( 'title', wfMessage( $isSubscribed ? 'discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-unsubscribe-tooltip' : diff --git a/modules/topicsubscriptions.js b/modules/topicsubscriptions.js index cfd4e2ee4..e4e7e034e 100644 --- a/modules/topicsubscriptions.js +++ b/modules/topicsubscriptions.js @@ -7,6 +7,7 @@ var STATE_AUTOSUBSCRIBED = 2, utils = require( './utils.js' ), CommentItem = require( './CommentItem.js' ), + ThreadItem = require( './ThreadItem.js' ), linksByName = {}; /** @@ -69,6 +70,21 @@ function getTitleFromHeading( heading ) { return mw.config.get( 'wgRelevantPageName' ) + '#' + section; } +/** + * Get a HeadingItem from a heading element wrapper + * + * @param {Element} heading Heading element + * @return {ThreadItem|null} ThreadItem, null if not found + */ +function getHeadingItemFromHeading( heading ) { + var dataNode = heading.querySelector( '[data-mw-comment]' ); + if ( dataNode ) { + var hash = JSON.parse( dataNode.getAttribute( 'data-mw-comment' ) ); + return ThreadItem.static.newFromJSON( hash ); + } + return null; +} + /** * Initialize topic subscriptions feature * @@ -83,18 +99,30 @@ function initTopicSubscriptions( $container ) { // Subscription links (no visual enhancements) $container.find( '.ext-discussiontools-init-section-subscribe-link' ).each( function () { var $link = $( this ); - var commentName = this.getAttribute( 'data-mw-comment-name' ); + var heading = $link.closest( '.ext-discussiontools-init-section' )[ 0 ]; + var headingItem = getHeadingItemFromHeading( heading ); - if ( !commentName ) { + if ( !headingItem ) { // This should never happen return; } - linksByName[ commentName ] = this; + var itemName = headingItem.name; + if ( !itemName ) { + // Cached HTML may not contain item names for a short period. Assume the old + // data-mw-comment-name markers are present instead. + // This code branch can be removed a week or two after release. + itemName = this.getAttribute( 'data-mw-comment-name' ); + if ( !itemName ) { + // This should never happen + return; + } + } - var heading = $link.closest( '.ext-discussiontools-init-section' )[ 0 ]; var title = getTitleFromHeading( heading ); + linksByName[ itemName ] = this; + $link.on( 'click keypress', function ( e ) { if ( e.type === 'keypress' && e.which !== OO.ui.Keys.ENTER && e.which !== OO.ui.Keys.SPACE ) { // Only handle keypresses on the "Enter" or "Space" keys @@ -111,7 +139,7 @@ function initTopicSubscriptions( $container ) { var subscribedState = getSubscribedStateFromElement( $link[ 0 ] ); $link.addClass( 'ext-discussiontools-init-section-subscribe-link-pending' ); - changeSubscription( title, commentName, !subscribedState ) + changeSubscription( title, itemName, !subscribedState ) .then( function ( result ) { updateSubscribeLink( $link[ 0 ], result.subscribe ? STATE_SUBSCRIBED : STATE_UNSUBSCRIBED ); } ) diff --git a/tests/cases/ar-no-paragraph-oldparser/ar-no-paragraph-oldparser-formattedreply.html b/tests/cases/ar-no-paragraph-oldparser/ar-no-paragraph-oldparser-formattedreply.html index 59d15f0fa..e4bcfb9ce 100644 --- a/tests/cases/ar-no-paragraph-oldparser/ar-no-paragraph-oldparser-formattedreply.html +++ b/tests/cases/ar-no-paragraph-oldparser/ar-no-paragraph-oldparser-formattedreply.html @@ -82,7 +82,7 @@


-

الحرس الملكي الأردني[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

+

الحرس الملكي الأردني[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

مرحبًا، يمكن طبعًا استرجاع تعريف قوة خاصة أما المشاركة في الحروب المختلفة فيمكن طلب توضيح أو مصدر. مع التحية.--محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح (نقاش) 00:08، 1 أغسطس 2018 (ت ع م)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

طلب

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تهانينا لك
Khaled
تستحق هذا الوسام
لحصولك على المركز الأول
بعدد مراجعة التعديلات المعلقة
شكراً لجهودك.
مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربية 6:45، 6 أغسطس 2018 (ت ع م) -

الجيش العربي[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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الجيش العربي[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

السلام عليكم عزيزي خالد، 

أتمنى لك دوام الصحة والعافية. 
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لقد لاحظت أن بيننا اهتماماً مشتركاً في ما يتعلق بمقالات الجيش العربي أسلحته وما إلى ذلك؛ وبحكم أنك صاحب خبرة في ويكيبيديا وأنك محرر ومسترجع فأنا أعرض عليك مشروعاً مشتركاً لتطوير مقالات الجيش العربي إلى أن تصبح له بوابة مستقلة، إذا أردت ذلك. وسأكون سعيداً بذلك زي التعلم من خبرتك الطويلة، كما أني أعدك أن ترى مني عملاً جميلاً وجهداً قلّ نظيره. أنتظر ردك الكريم!
 
>>أتمنى عليك قبل أن تسترجع أي تعديل لي في مقالات الجيش العربي أن تستفسر عن ذلك.  الرشيد (نقاش) 12:17، 6 أغسطس 2018 (ت ع م)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 

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مرحبتين. أنا بخير والحمد لله. من حيث المبدأ لا شيء رسمي يمنع استخدام هذا الاسم أو ذاك. أذكر أنَّ نقاشًا تحوَّل لجدال جرى مُنذ بضع سنوات قال فيه البعض أنه يُحبذ تسمية داعش كي لا يُلصق هذا التنظيم بالإسلام وأن بعض وسائل الإعلام تتعمَّد الإشارة إلى «الدولة الإسلاميَّة» للإساءة إلى الدين الإسلامي وأنَّ هذا غير مقبول، والبعض قال علينا استعمال الاسم الرسمي الذي يعتمده التنظيم فيكون بالتالي الدولة الإسلاميَّة، والبعض قال يجب استعمال الاسم الشائع المُتداول على ألسنة الناس، فهو داعش. شخصيًّا أميل لاعتماد داعش كي لا تكون الموسوعة مُجرَّد بوق إعلامي آخر. تحيَّاتي--باسمراسلني (☎) 05:43، 7 أغسطس 2018 (ت ع م)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 

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 مرحبًا. تم ترشيح الصفحة تبديل محتوى/شرح التي قمتَ بإنشائها للحذف السريع؛ وذلك بسبب أنها مستوفية لواحد أو أكثر من معايير الحذف السريع، وهذا يعني أن الصفحة ستُحذف في أقرب وقت ممكن. إذا كان لديك اعتراض على عملية الترشيح، يُمكنك إضافة أي نقاط هامة في صفحة نقاش المقالة، أو يُمكنك طلب استرجاعها إذا تم حذفها من خلال هذه الصفحة -إذا كنتَ متأكدًا أن الصفحة غير مخالفة-. شكرًا لك. JarBot (نقاش) 16:54، 10 أغسطس 2018 (ت ع م)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 
تهانينا

 
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 تهانينا لك 
 Khaled
 تستحق هذا الوسام 
 لحصولك على المركز الأول 
 بعدد مراجعة التعديلات المعلقة
 شكراً لجهودك. 
مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربية
 
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مرحبا Khaled ...توجد عديد من طلبات مراجعة المقالات لم تراجع من قبل محررين ..يرجى مراجعتها و شكرا --Tik Tik (نقاش) 15:58، 15 أغسطس 2018 (ت ع م)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 

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تحياتي لك اخي العزيز
 ارجو قبول التعديلات المعلقة في مقالة معركة عنبتا مع الشكر
 تحياتي لك--Anabta.pal (نقاش) 16:36، 19 أغسطس 2018 (ت ع م)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 

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مرحبا من جديد Khaled ...هناك طلبات مراجعة المقالات جديدة..يرجى منك مراجعتها و شكرا.--Tik Tik (نقاش) 21:00، 19 أغسطس 2018 (ت ع م)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 

 
تهانينا

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 تهانينا لك 
 Khaled
 تستحق هذا الوسام 
 لحصولك على المركز الثالث 
 بعدد التعديلات هذا الأسبوع
 شكراً لجهودك. 
مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربية
  7:04، 20 أغسطس 2018  (ت ع م)
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مرحبا، أليس الأفضل تسمية شرم كوكتيل بكوكتيل الجمبري؟ --Mervat ناقش 09:55، 20 أغسطس 2018 (ت ع م)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 

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السلام عليكم. لاحظت قيامك بوسم هذه المقالة بالمراجعة، في حين أنها "ترجمة آلية" وتحتاج إلى تصويبات كثيرة، على سبيل المثال: المقالة تتحدث عن إمرأة وورد فيها (كان طبيبًا أرجنتينيًا ، ومصلحا ، وفريثينكر بارزًا)، وأيضا عبارة (أنفقت غريرسون طفولتها المبكرة على استصلاح عائلتها في مقاطعة إنتري )! وغيرها من العبارات التي تحتاج إلى إصلاح. لذا أرجو إما ان توجه من أنشأ المقالة إلى إصلاحها او تقوم بهذه الإصلاحات قبل وسم المقالة بالمراجعة. شكرا لك. --Dr-Taher (نقاش) 12:55، 20 أغسطس 2018 (ت ع م)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 

 
تهانينا

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 تهانينا لك 
 Khaled
 تستحق هذا الوسام 
 لحصولك على المركز الأول 
 بعدد مراجعة التعديلات المعلقة
 شكراً لجهودك. 
مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربية
  6:45، 27 أغسطس 2018  (ت ع م)
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حذف سريع لـ الرمح السحرية[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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 مرحبًا. تم ترشيح الصفحة الرمح السحرية التي قمتَ بإنشائها للحذف السريع؛ وذلك بسبب أنها مستوفية لواحد أو أكثر من معايير الحذف السريع، وهذا يعني أن الصفحة ستُحذف في أقرب وقت ممكن. إذا كان لديك اعتراض على عملية الترشيح، يُمكنك إضافة أي نقاط هامة في صفحة نقاش المقالة، أو يُمكنك طلب استرجاعها إذا تم حذفها من خلال هذه الصفحة -إذا كنتَ متأكدًا أن الصفحة غير مخالفة-. شكرًا لك. JarBot (نقاش) 17:48، 4 سبتمبر 2018 (ت ع م)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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 مرحبًا. تم ترشيح الصفحة بوابة:هامبورغ/معلم مختارة التي قمتَ بإنشائها للحذف السريع؛ وذلك بسبب أنها مستوفية لواحد أو أكثر من معايير الحذف السريع، وهذا يعني أن الصفحة ستُحذف في أقرب وقت ممكن. إذا كان لديك اعتراض على عملية الترشيح، يُمكنك إضافة أي نقاط هامة في صفحة نقاش المقالة، أو يُمكنك طلب استرجاعها إذا تم حذفها من خلال هذه الصفحة -إذا كنتَ متأكدًا أن الصفحة غير مخالفة-. شكرًا لك. JarBot (نقاش) 15:30، 10 أكتوبر 2018 (ت ع م)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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السلام عليكم. طالعت تاريخ مقالة تكرسيفت (أسكجور) فوجدت أنك قد وسمت هذا التعديل بالقبول! هل ترى أنه مناسب؟ أرجو مراعاة الدقة في وسم المقالات ومراجعتها لأنه غالبا لن يقوم أحد بالمراجعة بعدك لكونك محررا. 
 ملحوظة: أرسلت لك رسالة شبيهة أعلاه ولكن لم أتلقى منك ردا حولها. شكرا لك. --Dr-Taher (نقاش) 22:07، 2 ديسمبر 2018 (ت ع م)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 

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حذف سريع لـ بوابة:ديناصورات[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

 
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 مرحبًا. تم ترشيح الصفحة بوابة:ديناصورات التي قمتَ بإنشائها للحذف السريع؛ وذلك بسبب أنها مستوفية لواحد أو أكثر من معايير الحذف السريع، وهذا يعني أن الصفحة ستُحذف في أقرب وقت ممكن. إذا كان لديك اعتراض على عملية الترشيح، يُمكنك إضافة أي نقاط هامة في صفحة نقاش المقالة، أو يُمكنك طلب استرجاعها إذا تم حذفها من خلال هذه الصفحة -إذا كنتَ متأكدًا أن الصفحة غير مخالفة-. شكرًا لك. JarBot (نقاش) 21:06، 4 يناير 2019 (ت ع م)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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 مرحبًا. تم ترشيح الصفحة بوابة:شركات/مصطلح تجاري/أرشيف التي قمتَ بإنشائها للحذف السريع؛ وذلك بسبب أنها مستوفية لواحد أو أكثر من معايير الحذف السريع، وهذا يعني أن الصفحة ستُحذف في أقرب وقت ممكن. إذا كان لديك اعتراض على عملية الترشيح، يُمكنك إضافة أي نقاط هامة في صفحة نقاش المقالة، أو يُمكنك طلب استرجاعها إذا تم حذفها من خلال هذه الصفحة -إذا كنتَ متأكدًا أن الصفحة غير مخالفة-. شكرًا لك. JarBot (نقاش) 13:37، 1 مارس 2019 (ت ع م)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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 مرحبًا. تم ترشيح الصفحة قالب:IT-PUG التي قمتَ بإنشائها للحذف السريع؛ وذلك بسبب أنها مستوفية لواحد أو أكثر من معايير الحذف السريع، وهذا يعني أن الصفحة ستُحذف في أقرب وقت ممكن. إذا كان لديك اعتراض على عملية الترشيح، يُمكنك إضافة أي نقاط هامة في صفحة نقاش المقالة، أو يُمكنك طلب استرجاعها إذا تم حذفها من خلال هذه الصفحة -إذا كنتَ متأكدًا أن الصفحة غير مخالفة-. شكرًا لك. JarBot (نقاش) 17:02، 12 مارس 2019 (ت ع م)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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أهلًا وسهلًا أخي خالد.. سعدت جدًا لرؤيتك في أحدث التغييرات.. أرجو أن تكون بتمام الصحة والعافية.. ☺ --شبيب..ناقشني 21:18، 15 سبتمبر 2019 (ت ع م)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 

 
تهانينا

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  تهانينا لك
 Khaled
 تستحق هذا الوسام 
 لحصولك على المركز الثاني 
 بعدد إنشاء المقالات
شكراً لجهودك. 
مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربية
  5:20، 23 سبتمبر 2019  (ت ع م)
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 مرحبًا. تم ترشيح الصفحة Neubaufahrzeug التي قمتَ بإنشائها للحذف السريع؛ وذلك بسبب أنها مستوفية لواحد أو أكثر من معايير الحذف السريع، وهذا يعني أن الصفحة ستُحذف في أقرب وقت ممكن. إذا كان لديك اعتراض على عملية الترشيح، يُمكنك إضافة أي نقاط هامة في صفحة نقاش المقالة، أو يُمكنك طلب استرجاعها إذا تم حذفها من خلال هذه الصفحة -إذا كنتَ متأكدًا أن الصفحة غير مخالفة-. شكرًا لك. --FPP      نــــاقــــشــــهُ 19:22، 26 سبتمبر 2019 (ت ع م)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 
تهانينا

 
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  تهانينا لك
 Khaled
 تستحق هذا الوسام 
 لحصولك على المركز الثاني 
 بعدد إنشاء المقالات
شكراً لجهودك. 
مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربية
 
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OOjs UI icon logo-wikipedia.svg مرحبا Khaled!

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--Dr-Taher (نقاش) 00:57، 8 أكتوبر 2019 (ت ع م)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 

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مرحبًا خالد، الترجمة الصحيحة لمصطلح imagery intelligence هي الاستخبارات التصويرية وليس ذكاء الصور.--محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح (نقاش) 18:22، 11 أكتوبر 2019 (ت ع م)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 

 
تهانينا

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  تهانينا لك
 Khaled
 تستحق هذا الوسام 
 لحصولك على المركز الثاني 
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مرحبًا خالد، الوصف golden يعود على كلمة شارة Zeichen لأنه ينتهي بحرفي es وهو تصريف الصفة مع الاسم الذي أداته das، أما Partei أداتها die. إذا كانت الصفة golden وصفًا للحزب ستكون العبارة كالتالي goldene Partei. ومن المعتاد في الألمانية جمع كلمتين أو أكثر في كلمة واحدة، وأداة الكلمة تصبح أداة الاسم الأخير وهو Zeichen. مع التحية.--محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح (نقاش) 21:40، 11 نوفمبر 2019 (ت ع م)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 

 
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مرحبًا يا خالد، ملاحظة حول أسماء التصنيفات، تبدأ الأسماء مرفوعة وليس منصوبة أو مجرورة، فالتصنيف الذي أنشأته الآن يجب أن يسمى "المتعاونون الدنماركيون مع ألمانيا النازية".--محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح (نقاش) 21:44، 3 ديسمبر 2019 (ت ع م)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 

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مرحبًا خالد، انظر هذا التعديل، "عبارة عن" هو تعبير محل نقد، ستجد ملاحظة عنه في قائمة الملاحظات اللغوية المعروضة في الصفحة الرئيسية. وانظر تكتب بهمزة وصل وليس "أنظر". مع التحية.--محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح (نقاش) 21:41، 4 ديسمبر 2019 (ت ع م)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 

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صباح الخير خالد، ما مصدر التعريب "رايخسوميسار"؟ أجد أنك كررت التعريب بهذا النطق. لذلك أرغب في معرفة مصدره.--محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح (نقاش) 00:42، 9 ديسمبر 2019 (ت ع م)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 

 
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مرحبًا خالد مرة أخرى، يمكنني المساعدة في تصحيح النطق الألماني دائمًا ولا يزعجني ذلك أو يثقل علي، لكن لو كنت مهتمًا، أعتقد أنك ستجد أن تعلم قراءة النص الألماني هو أمر سهل، أسهل من الإنجليزية والفرنسية ولغات أخرى. الحروف لها نطق ثابت، وجميع الحروف تنطق، ويمكنك هجاء كلمة بمجرد سماعها دون أن تكون عارف بها من قبل مثل العربية. وهناك مواقع مجانية كثيرة تمكنك من تعلم الألمانية عمومًا، وأنت فقط ربما تحتاج لتعلم نطق الكلمات. مع التحية.--محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح (نقاش) 20:15، 12 ديسمبر 2019 (ت ع م)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 

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إليك هذا التلميح البسيط: أي كلمة ألمانية (اسم أو فعل) ينتهي بحرف e تنطق بنطق حرف هاء في آخرها. مثال Ich mache إش ماخه، ولا تعرب إش ماخ، وتعني أنا أفعل. وفي هذا المثال يلاحظ أن كلمة mach ماخ، دون حرف e هي فعل الأمر من machen. مع التحية.--محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح (نقاش) 22:57، 12 ديسمبر 2019 (ت ع م)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 

 
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مرحبًا خالد، أعتقد أن الوصف الأفضل للوحدات المتعاونة مع النازية هو وحدات متعاونة وليس وحدات تعاونية، مثلما يقال وحدات متحالفة وليس وحدات تحالفية. مع التحية.--محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح (نقاش) 20:53، 17 ديسمبر 2019 (ت ع م)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 

 
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مرحباً خالد، ما رأيك بنقل التصنيف "تصنيف:قوائم الوزراء - رئيس الدول الألمانية" إلى تصنيف:قوائم رؤساء وزراء الولايات الألمانية أو حتّى إلى تصنيف:قوائم رؤساء حكومات الولايات الألمانية؟ حيث أن الاسم الحالي غير صحيحاً لا لغوياً ولا من حيث المعنى. ألمانيا لا تحوي دول وإنما ولايات وقادة هذه الولايات يسمون رؤساء وزراء وليس وزراء - رئيس.
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مرحبًا خالد، طالع مقالة لجنة شيدر مرة أخرى. المقدمة تتضمن الكثير من الأخطاء اللغوية، حاول أن تقرأها وتصحح الأخطاء بها. مع التحية.--محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح (نقاش) 14:57، 20 فبراير 2020 (ت ع م)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 

 
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مرحبًا،أرجو أن تعرب أسماء هذه المقالات إلى اللغة العربية لأنها مخالفة لسياسة الموسوعة، Strafbataillon، Weihnachten، Kurmark، وأظن أنك تعرف هذا كونك محررًا!! تحياتي ---- ندى راسلني 22:19، 28 فبراير 2020 (ت ع م)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 

 
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مرحبًا خالد، هلا أكملت ترجمة قائمة الغاولايتر إن نصفها غير مترجم، تحياتي لك. ---- ندى راسلني 00:23، 16 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 

 
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مساء الخير خالد، من مقالة موسيقى زنجية، "وشمل هذا المعرض ملصق عرض والكرتون كاريكاتير من اللعب من أصل إفريقي الذكور على ساكسفون مع نجمة داود على موقعه سهرة طية صدر السترة". المطلوب إصلاح هذه الترجمة. مع التحية.--محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح (نقاش) 11:15، 21 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 

 
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مرحبا أخي خالد. إن شاءالله تكون بألف خير. هناك أخطاء في اسم المقالات الألمانية التي أنشأتها مؤخرا فإن لم يكن لديك مانع سأقوم بنقلها للإسم الصحيح. بالطبع لا داعي للاستعجال ويمكننا مناقشتها واحدة تلو الأخرى. تحياتي--عباس 18:41، 24 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 

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السلام خالد، أرجو أن تكون بخير. عندي طلب لو أمكن : هل من الممكن إنشاء بوابة:جائحة فيروس كورونا 2019–20 هذا سيسهل ربط المعلومات بينها. شكرا جزيلا --Helmoony (نقاش) 21:28، 29 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)
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مرحبًا خالد، يمكنك نقل الجزء الذي ترجمته في قسم SS بنفسك إلى مقالة كارل فرايهر ميشيل فون توسلينج حتى يحفظ باسمك. مع التحية.--محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح (نقاش) 12:54، 31 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 

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مرحبًا خالد، قوائم الكتب التي تضاف مراجع في المقالات من الغالب إبقاؤها بلغاتها الأصلية دون ترجمة ليتيسر الوصول إليها، دون الحاجة للذهاب للمقالة الإنجليزية.--محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح (نقاش) 18:06، 1 أبريل 2020 (ت ع م)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 

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مرحبًا مجددًا، ملاحظة أخرى حول ميثاق حزب العمال الكوري، الكثيرون سيرون أن الاختصارات الإنجليزية لكيانات ومنظمات غير إنجليزية تعد زائدة ويجب حذفها. كما أن المقالة تتضمن خطأ في ترجمة عنوان قسم. أرجو تقبل الملاحظة.--محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح (نقاش) 23:24، 1 أبريل 2020 (ت ع م)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 

 
مرحبًا مجددًا، وجدت الانقسام الصيني السوفيتي بها ترجمة عناوين المصادر الإنجليزية واستخدام الاختصارات الإنجليزية أيضًا.--محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح (نقاش) 13:25، 2 أبريل 2020 (ت ع م)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

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I would like to use this script when reviewing pending changes. However, when I see the pending changes, it only shows the diff, not the article with the changes implemented. Can an editor edit the my script so that it shows both the diff and article with the changes implemented? I don't know how to do it myself so I am asking for help. Interstellarity T 🌟 10:08, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 

 
Not me, but DannyS712 can. Face-smile.svg --qedk (t 桜 c) 19:42, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 
QEDK, Can you find someone else that can do it if DannyS712 can't do it? Interstellarity T 🌟 20:09, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 
Interstellarity, Hi there i have fixed that issue. ___CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 13:14, 30 June 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

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I have just recently been having an issue: When I hit the preview button to check my edits then hit the publish button I get an edit conflict. When this first happened I treated it as such and it posted twice. After that I have reloaded and see it is already posted by only hitting the preview button. I have never had this issue, that was not a legitimate edit conflict, so am at a lose.  Otr500 (talk) 16:09, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

 
Note: This has happened 4 times but when I previewed this edit then hit "publish changes" it worked fine. Otr500 (talk) 16:12, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

 
Apparently this is an issue only I am having but it is still ongoing.  Otr500 (talk) 18:09, 28 June 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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I'm getting inexplicable edit conflicts today. Doug Weller talk 19:55, 30 June 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 
And again when I tried to post the above. Doug Weller talk 19:56, 30 June 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 
Again! Is it groundhog day? When this happens again I own't bother to mention it here. Doug Weller talk 19:57, 30 June 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

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I'd like to know if there is any bot or tool that can help me finding old vandalizing editions in a WP file history. Thanks. --Jotamar (talk) 23:56, 19 June 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 

 
When I said WP files, I meant WP pages. Can someone at least tell me, where should I ask my question? --Jotamar (talk) 19:01, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 10:49, 28 June 2019 (UTC).
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If you already know specific vandalized text in an article and want the edit which added it then click "Find addition/removal" at the top of the page history. It used WikiBlame until recently but the tool has problems and another is currently used. It's discussed at MediaWiki talk:Histlegend#Wikiblame replacement. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:09, 28 June 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 
What I have in mind is some sort of heuristic tool, capable of finding a short list of possible vandalazing editions that have not been reverted, in a group of pages, for instance, the pages under one category. In less popular, poorly maintained pages, it's not uncommon that such an edition can be easily reverted even after months or years, but first you have to find them, and that takes up a lot of time. --Jotamar (talk) 13:48, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

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I need help getting a reflist to fall at the bottom of the article.  It is falling between 2 tables. 
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I would like to understand why this happening so I can fix it myself in the future.
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Fixed by [2]. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:10, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

 
Thank you so much! Lore E. Mariano (talk) 14:40, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

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Apparently there is a new bot creating cite errors.
 Article: WZ-551
 Tag: Rescuing 14 sources and tagging 0 as dead. #IABot (v2.0beta15)
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  21:22, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
 


 

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Progression of events was:
 

 
  1. Editor created a link to de:Otto Kirn (in article Pandeism, correcting from wrong link to Otto Kern).
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    The edit said [[:de:Otto Kirn]]. This explicitly tells to link the German Wikipedia. {{Interlanguage link|Otto Kirn|de}}} could have been used instead to test for an English article called Otto Kirn. It would only have examined whether the page name exists and not whether it's in a Wikidata item. As far as I know we have no template for the latter. It is possible to pull information from Wikidata so maybe it could be added as a feature in {{Interlanguage link}}. I don't think it's possible for an English template to look up the Wikidata item for a German article so Q24529752 would probably have to be a parameter. A bot could be coded to automaticlly add the parameter when it's not supplied. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:12, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 
    Could a bot check whenever a Wikidata item is connected from here? Got a notification here when it was, so somebody’s telling this Wiki. Hyperbolick (talk) 21:41, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    
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    Could someone knowledgable comment here, centrally, on whether there are database issues beyond the apparently temporary ones outlined in the above Tech News, and if so, what are their extent and when do we think they will be resolved?  It appears multiple bots have for some time not been running DB intensive tasks (such as certain Wikipedia:Database reports), and it is very difficult to parse through all the bot/report talkpage chatter to get a true picture of what is actually going on.  Thanks in advance! UnitedStatesian (talk) 02:46, 2 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 
    
 
    The database replicas are undergoing maintenance (see T222978). This involves taking one replica host out of service at a time. The other two hosts then have increased load, which leads to replication lag and increased query time (previously long queries could fail to complete). Maintenance is usually ongoing during the week and paused over the weekends. I would expect this to be an ongoing issue for a while. I don't know how long the maintenance will take, but the DBAs are reaching the end of the maintenance one the first replica. The database items in the Tech News are unrelated. — JJMC89 (T·C) 05:29, 2 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    
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    Dear All,
 
    initially I turned to administrator regarding the issue, but unfortunetly he could not give an idea for solution. The details may be read there...Shortly, if I set it to list the changes back to 7 or 30 days, it is not working, just listing the last 250 changes, not more and I have as well no (previous/next) buttons...I need a solution, Thank You(KIENGIR (talk) 20:21, 1 July 2019 (UTC))[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 
    
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    Deployment update
    
 
    Thanks to User:Isarra's efforts on Friday, we now have full fixes for the notification badge issues in the Monobook and Modern skins. About 15 minutes ago (at 23:36 UTC) I deployed the fixes for Monobook, these are now live on all wikis. I didn't deploy the fixes for Modern because those are a little more complicated and that skin isn't used as much as Monobook is. If I get a chance, I may be able to deploy those 24 hours from now, and otherwise they'll come with next week's regular weekly deployment train on Thursday July 11 (there is no train this week due to the July 4th holiday). Thanks to User:Isarra for writing proper fixes for these bugs, and to User:Xaosflux for putting interim fixes in MediaWiki:Monobook.css in the meantime. And, again, my apologies for this disruption; I was the reviewer on the change that broke this, and I should have caught the fact that it changed the badge structure and the main badge CSS but did not update the Monobook CSS to match. --Roan Kattouw (WMF) (talk) 00:02, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 
    
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    Or there needs to be a setting in preferences to allow this. Scrolling is a pain. Half the page has to be scrolled to click the "show preview" button. 
 
    Weird thing is that the edit window here does not have the "Edit summary (Briefly describe your changes)" toolbar. It only has the "common edit summaries" toolbar. 
 
    So look at an article edit window, or an article talk page edit window. -- Timeshifter (talk) 08:34, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    @Timeshifter: It has previously been suggested (see e.g. this thread)) that a setting such as the above rule textarea {height:15em} should be made a user pref. Unfortunately, this is not feasible since a value of 15em is not suitable for every user - we do not know how high anybody else's screen is. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:30, 2 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 
    @Redrose64: Thanks. I see from that old thread that it was possible in the past to choose the size of the textarea.  I vaguely remember that this existed at one time. You wrote in that old thread: "Each pref removed marginally improves page load time for logged-in users." Is it only prefs that are changed from default settings that effect page load time? If so, then the more preferences the better.
    
 
    There should be a way to open up and activate a whole new set of preferences. That way newbs could start with a manageable set of preferences. Then over time, if desired, then people could look at other preferences. Without having to paste stuff into CSS and JS pages. People could make their own decision as to whether the marginal loss of page load speed was made up for by the improvements provided by the additional preferences. -- Timeshifter (talk) 02:53, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    
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    I wrote a query regarding CSD category counts being incorrect and SoWhy helpfully pointed me to archived threads on this board, like Category count wrong and several others with the same complaint going back to spring 2018. Editors responded by listing Phab tickets, like T200402, T195397, T221795 or T18036 (and there are probably more). I've checked all the different tickets that were mentioned in these threads on this common problem and they are either marked as a) closed, resolved, b) closed, duplicate or c) low priority. I don't see how this issue can be considered resolved when it continues to be a problem and it is disappointing to think that there is little to no chance that anyone will work on actually solving this problem. It's clear that a lot of work on this started last year, but then the ticket was mistakenly closed as resolved.
 
    Is there any way to restart the process of review so that there is some investigation of this problem? Because as a "resolved, low priority" task, that means to me that it will never be examined again. Liz Read! Talk! 23:35, 2 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 
    
 
    In Phabricator parlance "low priority" does not necessarily means the task is not important; quite the opposite at times. Phab:T195397 was closed as resolved because it was indeed resolved at the time, and when the problem resurfaces, it was not reopened since there are many other open tasks. Some were closed as duplicate, because they were what the label says; even here, I believe we don't like 'duplicate.' The main task now is at phab:T221795. 
     However, (for me to not be too evasive) I admit the problem is not given any sense of urgency from the technical side, but that's easily explainable. To be frank, there's nothing broken if category count is not correct. The problem has been noticed since 2008 or possibly earlier, and with adhoc fixes, everyone moves on until it returns and annoys another person. It's something obscure and which almost entire Wikipedia readers probably don't use nor care about. The editors who care for it (the count) are few, and even fewer know the problem exists. I don't know any way to speed up this, except (may be) to lobby the team working on it in the task, but keeping in mind, even if you think it needs immediate solution, others may not see it that way. – Ammarpad (talk) 06:37, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    
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    Hi all,
 
    I happened to notice that hundreds of links in hundreds of articles include fbclid=longstringofrandomlookingletters parameters. According to what I read, Facebook adds these to track users' browsing behavior. It works like this:
 
    
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    Ah- I'm not planning on doing them all, just however many I can get to today (also, I check all the links before I upload), but yeah this is definitely something that's best suited for a bot once that gets running again. TheAwesomeHwyh 00:07, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 
    Hi there, I have been very occupied with a lot of other things - but I will make sure this task runs :-). Thanks for the note Jon Kolbert (talk) 18:14, 2 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 
    Many thanks for your work. --Jens (84.173.228.245 (talk) 21:11, 3 July 2019 (UTC))[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    
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    It is easy to see that | is a permissible character to the right of the active | in a piped link.  For example, [[red|green|blue]] produces the anchor text "green|blue" linking to the page red: green|blue.
 
    In the lead sentence of the page Xiquets Copenhagen, however, the wikitext ([[Castell|{{lang|ca|castells}}]]) is obviously intended to produce the anchor text "castells" linking to the page Castell; but actually it does not produce a link at all, and most of the wikitext shows up as ordinary text in the article.  If this is supposed to work as intended, perhaps someone can fix the bug.  If it's intended not to work, perhaps someone can edit the article to do what is necessary to achieve the desired effect.
 
    (If you have something to say, please say it here. I only came across the article via Special:Random, and don't expect to look at it again.) --76.69.117.113 (talk) 04:06, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 
    
 
     Fixed The problem is that {{lang}} not only marks the text as non-English, it also adds [[Category:Articles containing ...-language text]] - and wikilinks may not contain wikilinks. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:23, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 
    Ah, so it's intended not to work.  Perhaps it would be helpful if there was some kind of error message, because the original construction looks legitimate until you know why not. --76.69.117.113 (talk) 02:57, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    
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    I would like to have both toolbars. Please make this possible. See: Wikipedia:Legacy toolbar.
 
    See: Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing. There one can enable this:
 
    
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    Anybody? Is this technically feasible? -- Timeshifter (talk) 02:56, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 
    No, it is not possible to have both the 2010 and 2006 toolbar. You could however ask for an script that adds the missing buttons to the 2010 toolbar, which would be the hidden comment, quote and horizontal line.--Snaevar (talk) 16:53, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 
    That's a good idea. I only want the 2 buttons for instant link brackets (no intermediary popup). One button for an internal link. And one button for an external link. -- Timeshifter (talk) 05:20, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    
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     You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Teahouse#Two questions about the WMF's Android app .  Airbornemihir (talk) 04:32, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 
    
 
    VVVV I've posted the question asked by Airbornemihir in its own section directly below this section. VVV Orvilletalk 05:28, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    
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    @Airbornemihir: Yes, I did see the "How did you improve the article?" page; I tapped "Publish" leaving everything else untouched and it worked... again. —RainFall 07:52, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 
    @RainFall: OK, it looks like it worked for me too. I'm not sure what was going on before. I edited the smartphone apps page to better reflect what the app can do, as well. Thanks everyone for your help. Airbornemihir (talk) 08:08, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    
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     Resolved 
    
 
     Moved from Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)/Archive 62 § Has syntax highlighting CSS just changed?: ―Mandruss ☎ 21:58, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    
 
    I just noticed that the gap between lines in "Syntax highlighting" mode in the wikitext editor suddenly became wider. Was it a glitch of my browser not loading CSS properly, or did it actually change? —⁠andrybak (talk) 21:37, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
@@ -598,7 +598,7 @@ I'm aware that it's a @Andrebak: can you be a bit more specific, Wikipedia:Syntax highlighting doesn't usually get used in .css pages, which use the code editor (not the source editor).  Is this still occurring?  Can you share the edit link you are using? — xaosflux Talk 22:28, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 
    I guess andrybak was not editing a CSS page but just speculating that styling from some CSS file was not working properly when editing a normal wikitext page. If you refer to the highlighter marker button Codemirror-icon.png to the left of "Advanced" in a toolbar then it doesn't change spacing for me in Google Chrome 75.0.3770.100. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:43, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 
    @PrimeHunter: Yes, but for me it has changed in the same mode (Codemirror-icon.png turned on), but between different pages. It changed between two different gap sizes since then, so I think that it was just some networking issue when loading CSS. —⁠andrybak (talk) 10:12, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    
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    A user (Console.frog) noted that when searching for "life on earth" on Google, the Life article appears in the middle of page 1 under the title life on Earth. This expression appears several times in the article but I can't figure out why the correct title is not brought up, and more importantly why "life" is not capitalized properly. Do you think there is something on our side causing this? -- Luk talk 11:27, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
 
    
 
    A datapoint: "life on Earth" appears four times in the preamble, "Life on Earth" appears once in the preamble. —⁠andrybak (talk) 11:59, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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 Evolutionary history of life · ‎Timeline of the evolutionary ... · ‎Earliest known life forms
I'm using Internet Explorer, if that matters at all (or even if it doesn't). Nyttend backup (talk) 13:02, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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Is there a bot or tool that can replace the phrase Kingdom of Hawaii to Hawaiian Kingdom across Wikipedia without having to edit each page and switch it over? This is just a logistical inquiry before a request for consensus for such a change. KAVEBEAR (talk) 21:01, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

AWB can do this. It shows up 54 pages, so it should be quite feasible, with about 10 seconds per page to allow manual check it could take 10 minutes. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:07, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
This is not so much a VPT matter as a question for WP:BOTREQ - and I see that an identical thread has been posted at WT:BOTREQ, contrary to WP:MULTI. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:09, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
To answer the technical question KAVEBEAR, no - assuming this phrase appears in the source text it would require creating another version of the source text for each page (which yes a bot could do, but that is how it would do it). The only way around that would have been if the name was actually a template that could be changed once. — xaosflux Talk 13:19, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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Tracked in Phabricator
Task T226983

Not sure if this is the correct venue but the tooltip (hovertext) that logged-out readers see for Antananarivo stampede is stuck on an old incorrect version with the wrong date. This has been repeatedly pointed out at main-page errors but no one there knows how to fix it. The article was corrected on 28 June [8]. Any help appreciated as this is currently on the main page in the In the News section. Espresso Addict (talk) 23:34, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

@Espresso Addict: It's not just that one page. In fact, I'm not sure that the preview has updated for any page since June 28. See phab:T227033. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 23:48, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
Thanks. At least someone is hopefully looking into the issue. Espresso Addict (talk) 23:52, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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Resolved

Why isn't {{Google maps}} displaying the access date in, for example, the first ref at Bussell Highway? The use of accessdate in the article seems fine ... and I'm not that good with templates. Thanks for any help! Graham87 14:02, 5 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

Fixed the parameter as told in the documentation of the template. Stryn (talk) 14:18, 5 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
Ta muchly ... oops, didn't notice the underline there! One of the perils of not paying attention to punctuation with my screen reader ... but seemingly an easy mistake to make, whether you're sighted or not! Graham87 14:47, 5 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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I hope this is an appropriate place to describe this concern. If not, please advise me where to express it. On my laptop I'd like to be able to set desktop to be my wikipedia preference, so it would be my permanent default view, and mobile view never come up on it. I am using Firefox 67.0.4 (64-bit) browser on Windows 8.1. The problem I encounter is that when using my laptop computer and searching for something via google, sometimes when I click on a wiki search-find I get a presentation of a wiki article which I have discovered to be a MOBILE wiki presentation, which I don't want. I now finally understand that I can go to the bottom of such an article and click on 'desktop', and I'll get a desktop view, and that setting will also obtain for other wiki articles until I turn my laptop off. But the next time I turn my laptop on, mobile views can again present from google searches, and I have no use for mobile style views. I would think desktop view should be able to be set in Preferences. If that can't be made available in Preferences, is there some other way that I could set DESKTOP to be my wikipedia permanent default view? UnderEducatedGeezer (talk) 23:22, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

As far as I know, Wikipedia can't automatically switch you from the mobile view to the desktop view. If you're on a phone, and go to the desktop version (en.wikipedia.org), you can be switched to the mobile version (en.m.wikipedia.org), but the other way around doesn't work. Therefore, if you click on a link from somewhere else on the internet to the mobile version (en.m.wikipedia.org), you stay on the mobile version. The easiest way to change this is to remove the .m from the URL. rchard2scout (talk) 10:13, 5 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)] @@ -657,12 +657,12 @@ Evolutionary history of life · ‎Timeline of the evolutionary ... · ‎Earlie

There is some interesting chatter on a related topic at phab:T214998. --Izno (talk) 15:42, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

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Resolved: Thanks for pointing out the post above; closing this due to derpiness –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 21:29, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

The page preview for final item (as I'm writing this) on the "In the News" list on the main page (the Antananarivo stampede) mentions it occurred on 26 July, despite the article (correctly) saying it was 26 June. Looking at mw:Page Previews, it just says it uses a portion of the opening paragraph, so I have no idea what's causing the discrepancy. Does anyone know why this is happening and/or how to fix this? Thanks, –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 20:50, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

User:Deacon Vorbis, see #Stuck tooltips above. Over at Phabricator, it has an "Unbreak Now!" status, which means "drop everything you're doing and fix this". Nyttend (talk) 21:21, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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Currently, one of the most backlogged processes is Request an Account (ACC) , which exists mainly (though not entirely) for helping with 3 purposes: Those having trouble completing CAPTCHA; enabling the choosing of a username that is too similar to an existing username under certain circumstances & creating an account for those hindered by a rangeblock.

The current backlog on pending requests is 4 months.

In the last couple of months multiple editors have signed up to be ACC tool users, Tool users are signed up to the confidentiality agreement and meet various other criteria. @@ -741,7 +741,7 @@ Evolutionary history of life · ‎Timeline of the evolutionary ... · ‎Earlie

  • Comments: I am new to this, support account creation, and was appalled at the backlog. A note that 2-3 days may be needed, may take weeks or even months, and a backlog of 4 months seems to point to a possible loss of good editors at worse, those legitimately seeking an account to lose interest or maybe just not actively seeking an account. Maybe I am looking at this wrong but a backlog of 4 months seems to indicate "is anything really needed now?" a strange question. I understand the need to limit account creation abuse and possible vandalism, but if what is in place seems to be a horrible failure then why not an increase to maybe the 10 suggested instead of back to the statue-quo? I haven't looked at this, just read over some of the above, but has there been a problem with "trusted user" abuse to cause the decrease in the first place? Otr500 (talk) 08:55, 29 June 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    The backlog doesn't have anything to do with the rate limit. Almost everyone working at ACC has noratelimit (from accountcreator or sysop), so the limit doesn't apply to them. The backlog is from a shortage of volunteers willing to devote time to working at ACC. — JJMC89 (T·C) 17:28, 29 June 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
  • If it's back up to 6, then I don't think further changes are needed. New volunteers can get the accountcreator bit once they have a bit of experience. The biggest issue is number of volunteers. -- Ajraddatz (talk) 01:11, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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WP:ANI#Unknown attack on me contains some {{IPvandal}} links to individual IPv4s, individual IPv6s, and IPv6 ranges. Here are three of them, plus a totally unrelated IPv4 range:

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Global count tool now limited?[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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Global count tool now limited?[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

Seems that "Global User Contributions" (at => https://tools.wmflabs.org/guc/?by=date&user=Drbogdan , for instance) once gave truly "total contribution results", but now seems limited to "20 results per wiki"? - QUESTION: is there a way to again obtain truly "total contribution results" with this wiki tool (or some other related one) - and *Not* be so limited (to some number of results per wiki)? - in any case - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 00:52, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

Drbogdan, Hey, at least it's working now (it was down for a while). There is an alternate tool at https://xtools.wmflabs.org/globalcontribs which may work better for you. --AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 01:21, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)] @@ -779,12 +779,12 @@ Evolutionary history of life · ‎Timeline of the evolutionary ... · ‎Earlie
  • Special:CentralAuth/Drbogdan says that you have 6 edits on en.wikibooks.org, but b:Special:Contributions/Drbogdan lists 43 edits → 37 of your edits (done in other projects) have been imported here (and GUC shows your 20 recent edits, imported or not).
  • Special:CentralAuth/Drbogdan says that you have 31 edits on de.wikipedia.org, but de:Spezial:Beiträge/Drbogdan lists 987 edits → 956 of your edits (done in other projects) have been imported here (and GUC shows your 20 recent edits, imported or not).
    • 37 + 956 = almost 1000: it explains the difference between your old GUC "total contributions count" and your CentralAuth total count. --NicoScribe (talk) 17:39, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Small tags and mobile view[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    Small tags and mobile view[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    In the mobile view, <small>..</small> has no effect on the size of the displayed font. This appears to be implemented in the different style sheets used in mobile view. I assume this was a deliberate design decision – perhaps it was thought that making already potentially small font on a mobile device even smaller wasn't a good idea.

    Up until February 2018, {{small}} was a wrapper for <small>..</small>. It was then changed to be a wrapper for <span style="font-size:85%;">..</span>. This is obeyed in mobile view, so does generate smaller text.

    If it was a deliberate decision not to display smaller text in mobile view, then the change to {{small}} should be undone. Comments, please. Peter coxhead (talk) 12:50, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

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    Finding distinct pages edited by a user?[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    Finding distinct pages edited by a user?[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    When I'm looking to see what a user has been up to, looking at their contributions page is usually way to verbose, because it shows every edit. What I usually want is to just see the distinct pages. In pseudo-sql, I want something like, "select distinct page_name from contributions". Is such a thing possible, short of using Quarry?

    Even better, a way to do this for both contributions and deleted contributions and fold the results together into a single list of distinct pages. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:29, 5 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    @@ -811,11 +811,11 @@ Evolutionary history of life · ‎Timeline of the evolutionary ... · ‎Earlie

    Tech news prepared by Tech News writers and posted by bot • Contribute • Translate • Get help • Give feedback • Subscribe or unsubscribe.

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    Wanted - someone to adopt a discontinued bot[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    Wanted - someone to adopt a discontinued bot[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red is looking for someone who'd be prepared to run a bot, the owner of which has recently retired. The bot is described at d:Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot/Emijrpbot 6, which points to code here. The function of the bot is to add new wikidata items for new en.wiki biographies and/or to add human and/or gender statements to existing wikidata items, based on articles found on Special:UnconnectedPages. WiR bases all of its metrics (& these) on wikidata records for en.wiki articles, and since end April the project's stats have become increasingly hard to compile. We'd be more than grateful if someone would consider picking up this thankless task; thx. --Tagishsimon (talk) 17:33, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    @Tagishsimon: if you haven't already, try WP:BOTREQ Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 05:16, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Wikipedia:Welcoming committee/members[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    Resolved

    --qedk (t 桜 c) 07:05, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    I'm not sure what the best venue is to ask this question, but I was at Wikipedia:Welcoming committee/members and in these edits, I purged a bunch of sock operators, some unregistered users, a bunch of redlinked users who hadn't edited in forever, and without looking at the rest of the list, I can only wonder how many people there are actually active. Is there any technical way to purge the list of duds? I also noticed there were tons of green-linked names, which typically represents users who have changed their handles.

    Side question: I remember tweaking a setting that turned redirect links green (see above) but I can't remember where it was. I looked through my prefs and common.js file and can't find it. Help? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 02:35, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)] @@ -828,7 +828,7 @@ Evolutionary history of life · ‎Timeline of the evolutionary ... · ‎Earlie

    ...so I don't have to walk in circles aimlessly like an asshole. But that's all I do on Wikipedia! 718smiley.svg Glad to hear you resolved it. --qedk (t 桜 c) 07:05, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    @Cyphoidbomb: It was nothing! It was just a quick check of your subpages. As for the pruning, I'm afraid I don't know much that could be of service. Maybe a bot to clerk the list would be of service, but I am not the one to program such machinations. Cheers! Face-smile.svg (edit conflict) –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 07:05, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    User:Cyphoidbomb and User:MJL, you might consider using the Wikipedia:WikiProject X tools, which come with a bot to archive inactive members. User:Harej can probably point you in the right direction if you get stuck. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:02, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    logout slow and failed due to http[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    logout slow and failed due to http[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    I was trying to log out one day but the step was slow. It said, "You are being logged out, please wait". Then it said, "Cannot log out now: http". Eventually I was logged out. Why so long? Does it mean that I must have been using a slow network? If I close my browser while waiting, is that good enough? Nick Levinson (talk) 20:26, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    You say 'one day' and you were eventually logged out, that means the issue may no longer be there. Have you tried logging out again to see if the issue persists up to now?. – Ammarpad (talk) 05:12, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)] @@ -836,7 +836,7 @@ Evolutionary history of life · ‎Timeline of the evolutionary ... · ‎Earlie
    Does the problem come from network slowness or something else? If anything was done to resolve it, that's different and please tell us.
    Nick Levinson (talk) 23:39, 8 July 2019 (UTC) (Corrections: 23:46, 8 July 2019 (UTC))[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    @Nick Levinson: I've filed a task at phab:T227621 for it to be looked at. Thanks for reporting. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 21:52, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Can someone with the right permissions null edit the fully locked page User:NQ/nqup.css (the user hasn't edited for 2 & 1/2 years) so as to clear the redirect Category:Potentially illegible userboxes? This one is causing strange errors for the redirect bot. Timrollpickering (Talk) 14:24, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Wow that page is a mess, looking at it. — xaosflux Talk 14:53, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)] @@ -845,7 +845,7 @@ Evolutionary history of life · ‎Timeline of the evolutionary ... · ‎Earlie
    Rather than null edit it, it should be nullified - there isn't a single valid CSS rule in the whole thing. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:44, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    @Redrose64: it is a self-protection hack used by non-admins (c.f. Wikipedia:User_pages#Protection_of_user_pages). — xaosflux Talk 22:16, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Why do we encourage this? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:34, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Template conditional syntax quesiton[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    What is the correct syntax to set the inline parameter conditionally in this template? It is embedded in the London Overground article thus: {{Overground RDT|inline=yes}}, which should be able to set the inline to 1 or true. The aim is to hide the top bar of the template when embedded in an infobox but not elsewhere.

    I attempted this but it didn't work, so clearly I'm not getting the conditional syntax right:

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    Ah! Someone has stepped in and fixed it. The answer was (of course) obvious:
    |inline={{{inline|}}}
    Thank you! Cnbrb (talk) 00:26, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Headerbar doing v-t-e and hide[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    {{Navbar-collapsible}} is a good utility (showing both V-T-E links and the Hide/Show button). Now IIRC, there was a similar template for (wiki)table headers. Cannot find it any more, did anything bad happen? If someone could give me a hint/link, +appreciated. -DePiep (talk) 20:37, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    You recall incorrectly. No such template exist, or can exist. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 23:10, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    -DePiep (talk) 09:48, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    @DePiep: do you have this sandboxed? I'm assuming the edit link still goes to a "page" not somehow only edits "the table" right? — xaosflux Talk 13:00, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    @Xaosflux: I only use this in a table that is in a template page (see {{Decay modes}} edit), that is what I meant to say with "in a templated table". I do not aim to use this in an in-article coded table; as you pointed out that won't work. -DePiep (talk) 13:06, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Preloading edit summary?[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    Preloading edit summary?[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    Hey! is it possible to preload an edit summary like we can do with page content? and if yes whats the code? thanks in advance.--▸ ‎épine talk♬ 21:50, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    @Épine: &summary= ! ;-) Example link. Quiddity (talk) 21:56, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    URL is [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sandbox&action=edit&summary=foo%20bar Example] -DePiep (talk) 11:47, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Épine, also see the documentation mw:Manual:Creating pages with preloaded text. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 13:36, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Sorting broken?[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    Sorting broken?[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    Take a look at List of Governors of Alabama - errors of "Script error: No such module "Date table sorting"." all over the place. --Golbez (talk) 14:25, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    It's fixed now. --Golbez (talk) 14:26, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Android app login generic error[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    Screenshot: https://pasteboard.co/ImS2y8j.jpg

    hello,

    I can successfully log into the web browser version of Wikipedia, but I cannot log into the Android app using the same credentials. I received a generic error that only states that an error has occurred. @@ -888,13 +888,13 @@ Evolutionary history of life · ‎Timeline of the evolutionary ... · ‎Earlie

    Did you try uninstalling and reinstalling the app? There may be an issue with the app itself. -- Luk talk 19:55, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    WHOIS broken[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    WHOIS broken[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    Whois returns either a blank page, or a 500 internal server error. Been going on for a few hours already. DuncanHill (talk) 21:26, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Note: This might not be isolated to Wikimedia or Tools. I just got the identical error message at Find A Grave. On second try, Find a Grave loaded. — Maile (talk) 23:26, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    XTools[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    XTools[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    Tracked in Phabricator
    Task T207959
    Tracked in Phabricator
    Task T182182

    I use two XTools - edit counter and article counter, both of which have stopped working for me as I have over 350,000 edits. Any idea how this can be resolved? GiantSnowman 15:27, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)] @@ -904,11 +904,11 @@ Evolutionary history of life · ‎Timeline of the evolutionary ... · ‎Earlie

    Thanks! GiantSnowman 16:36, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    @MusikAnimal: can you do an 'simple counter' for article creations, which just shows the number rather than a full list? GiantSnowman 08:23, 11 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Good idea. I'll look into it! — MusikAnimal talk 17:50, 11 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Request bot for auto archiving[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    Request bot for auto archiving[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    Resolved

    For talk page. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nicotine_marketing QuackGuru (talk) 03:00, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

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    Alerts and alarms[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    Alerts and alarms[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    Tracked in Phabricator
    Task T88781

    Is there some facility within Wikipedia for me to receive a reminder when, for example, a block that I have made or a page protection that I have added has expired, or a deletion discussion that I have initiated has run its full time? Moreover, is there some facility within Wikipedia to create reminders generally? If not, can such a thing be created? bd2412 T 22:52, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    @@ -917,35 +917,35 @@ Evolutionary history of life · ‎Timeline of the evolutionary ... · ‎Earlie
    Note though, this is related to phab:T2582 - which has been pending for 10 years. — xaosflux Talk 23:13, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    @Elizium23:, I don't know how big a server load this would necessarily represent. I already get all sorts of notices for things like being mentioned in a discussion or a link being made to a page I created. Obviously some system event is occurring when a block or a page protection expires, because the system knows to lift the block or unprotect the page. I suspect that implementing such a thing is much more a matter of prioritizing it than any effect on the servers. bd2412 T 23:16, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    JSON error on Template:Infobox book series[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    JSON error on Template:Infobox book series[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    Not sure what's going on, but I can't even make a dummy edit to Template:Infobox book series since it has a JSON error somewhere. I want to make an improvement to the template, but can't due to the error. Can anyone help? Steel1943 (talk) 21:48, 11 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    I think I fixed it. --Gonnym (talk) 22:28, 11 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    @Gonnym: Yep, I can at least do dummy edits now, so it's probably good. Thanks! Steel1943 (talk) 01:42, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    I'm pretty sure there was some backend change sometimes not long ago, as I had a lot of templates I could edit without that error that one day started blocking me. --Gonnym (talk) 06:47, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    If you aren't used to JSON, you can use this site to check for errors. Also useful in cases where you know JSON syntax but cannot find the error (lots of parameters, etc.) --qedk (t 桜 c) 08:03, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Extracting the ToC list[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    Extracting the ToC list[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    Is there a way (via template or lua) to extract the ToC headers so they can be presented in a different style? What I mean by that is using a ToC style such as {{Horizontal ToC}} but without the ridiculously awful need to manually write each header, and later update it if it's changed. --Gonnym (talk) 14:19, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    @Gonnym: {{Horizontal ToC}} is a recent template. We already have {{Horizontal TOC}}, mentioned at Help:Section#Horizontal TOC. The names are confusingly similar. I have added a see also link [15] but more should probably be done. __TOC__ places the table of contents. It can be wrapped in styling like {{Horizontal TOC}} does. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:01, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Yeah, I just found it by accident. There really is no reason to have the newer template. If a manual list of entries is somehow needed (and I really can't even see one valid reason why it would), that could added to the better template. --Gonnym (talk) 09:04, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Minor edits[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    Minor edits[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    It's annoying that everytime one needs to check the "This is a minor edit" box. I would recommend making it the other way round and checking after making large edits instead. THE NEW ImmortalWizard(chat) 16:40, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    @ImmortalWizard: There was a user preference "Mark all edits minor by default". This was removed eight years ago following a discussion in which it was determined that the option was often misused. See Help talk:Minor edit/Archive 1#Should we remove the Preference setting to "Mark all edits minor by default" ? and phab:T26313. On that matter, this edit, which was the last one that you made before posting here, should not have been marked minor. Further information at WP:MINOR. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 15:33, 11 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Thanks Redrose64. I have now read the information page. THE NEW ImmortalWizard(chat) 16:50, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Interwikilink[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    Interwikilink[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    Hi, the interwiki link on article Aún soltera takes me to the Spanish article on Ian Fleming which does not seem correct...GrahamHardy (talk) 17:11, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    @GrahamHardy: it takes you to the main page of eswiki, and their TFA is Ian Fleming --DannyS712 (talk) 17:21, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    @GrahamHardy: Fixed it by removing the incorrect {{SPATRAcite}}. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:24, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Some users think that youtube-dl is not notable enough for having its own article ![(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    Can any user help to stop the speedy deletion request ? Thanks (https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl) -- Voldemort (talk) 11:49, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    This isn't the right forum for such a request; next time(it has already been deleted) try the Help Desk. 331dot (talk) 11:51, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Voldemort, this is not the place to ask these questions, please ask this question on Teahouse. ___CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 11:52, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    There is a page at User:widefox/Youtube-dl if you want to help improve it to show WP:GNG. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Youtube-dl was the last formal debate. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 02:10, 13 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Fake edit conflicts when I edit talk pages[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    Fake edit conflicts when I edit talk pages[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    Pretty much most of the time for several days. On my iPad and my Windows laptop. they aren't real as my edits still appear. Doug Weller talk 16:57, 2 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    @Doug Weller: didn’t you return back to edit form (in the browser) after saving an edit? Incnis Mrsi (talk) 17:02, 2 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)] @@ -956,15 +956,15 @@ Evolutionary history of life · ‎Timeline of the evolutionary ... · ‎Earlie
    I had this for a few weeks, thinking it was maybe some server issue that would solve itself. It didn't. Before destroying my computer I reset my settings in the preferences and it solved itself. It must be a conflict with one of those, but I have no idea which one. --Gonnym (talk) 15:57, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    I haven't changed my preferences since before this started. Maybe there's a dodgy setting in there but not one that I've made recently. ~Kvng (talk) 16:01, 13 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    I didn't either, but resetting it worked. You just have to bite the bullet if it annoys you as much as it did me. --Gonnym (talk) 16:17, 13 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Old revisions of image missing, but not deleted[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    Old revisions of image missing, but not deleted[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    At File:Dave_Carlascio_and_Family_Force_5.jpg, some old revisions of the image give a 404 error message. Thumbnails of those revisions are still included by the HTML page, and it links to where the old revisions would have been. From the revision notes, it looks like they were non-free, so probably should be deleted, but, well, they weren't deleted.

    By comparison, here is what old deleted revisions of a file look like: File:City_of_Spokane_Seal.svg — "No thumbnail" note, and no broken links or images. So, the problem with Dave_Carlascio_and_Family_Force_5.jpg appears to be a software bug, disk corruption, or similar.

    Could someone properly delete the old versions in this case, and investigate the cause of this to ensure other files (that shouldn't have been deleted) aren't corrupted, restoring the revisions from backup as needed? Thanks! —{{u|Goldenshimmer}} (they/their)｜Talk｜Contributions 22:12, 13 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

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    watchlist inaccuracies again[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    watchlist inaccuracies again[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    My watchlist is again showing pages and diffs I have already seen, even though I have it set to show only unseen changes. Bolding of these pages in the list is also inconsistent. Anyone know why this exceptionally fun behaviour has returned? —Joeyconnick (talk) 22:50, 13 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

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    Citation generator in Visual Editor not working for PMID or PMC numbers[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    Citation generator in Visual Editor not working for PMID or PMC numbers[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    Tracked in Phabricator
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    It works, most of the time, when you insert the doi number or the article title, but not at all for PMID or PMC numbers. Not sure where I should report this. --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 05:05, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)] @@ -977,7 +977,7 @@ Evolutionary history of life · ‎Timeline of the evolutionary ... · ‎Earlie

    Thanks, man. I'm in awe of and grateful for what you tech guys can do, but impatient. It's a comfort knowing that this issue is firmly on your radar. --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 04:36, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    This issue is now fixed. Thanks for reporting. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 19:30, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Thank you, TheDJ. --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 07:15, 14 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    There is a problem with tables which occurs while using template {{Documentation}} with parameter |content= (also known as inline documentation). Documentation breaks when it reaches {|. Could this be fixed with a change of Module:Documentation? Thank you! --  Gzhegozh talk 11:00, 14 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    This is normal behaviour for templates: you cannot pass a Wikimarkup table through a parameter. I suggest that you make the documentation into a subpage, as is done with the majority of templates. If you state which template, I can carry out the appropriate edits. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 14:10, 14 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)] @@ -1013,7 +1013,7 @@ Evolutionary history of life · ‎Timeline of the evolutionary ... · ‎Earlie
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    Hi. I've just noticed that all article page titles are suddenly showing in italics. Must have happened in the last ~5 minutes or so. Do a null edit on a page to see, if it's not rendering in italics already. I take it this is some temp. glitch? Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 12:51, 13 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    It seems to be connected to {{Infobox}}, as the italics disappear when the infobox in an article removed. —Nizolan (talk · c.) 13:00, 13 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)] @@ -1030,17 +1030,17 @@ Evolutionary history of life · ‎Timeline of the evolutionary ... · ‎Earlie
    OK, a purge got rid of those errors. -- zzuuzz (talk) 13:54, 13 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Lugnuts and Zzuuzz, please see File:Holy Cow That's Weird.png and the WP:VPT archive where it appears. This report really strongly reminds me of that incident :-) Nyttend (talk) 23:09, 14 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Hehe, nice! Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 06:47, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    There is a page Special:PrefixIndex which is showing all pages starting with a certain name, but can someone create a similar page which would show all pages ending with certain characters? It would be a very useful tool. --  Gzhegozh talk 09:49, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    There is an old request at phab:T12808: "Introduce Special:Suffixindex". PrimeHunter (talk) 10:07, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    See my latest ten contributions: some of the edits are tagged with PHP7, and others aren't, although I used the same browser on the same computer to make those edits, and all of them were done with my home wireless network. Any idea why three are tagged as PHP7 and seven aren't, instead of all ten being tagged or all ten not being tagged? The PHP7 page says Replacing the Beta Feature, since March 2019 a percentage of all production traffic has been randomly assigned to use PHP instead of HHVM. I would assume that this means that some of my sessions would use PHP7 and some wouldn't, but you can see that seven of those edits came in one session, yet exactly two of the seven edits used PHP7. Is every single edit randomly assigned or randomly not-assigned to use PHP7? Nyttend (talk) 21:10, 14 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Nyttend, a percentage of your requests, not of your sessions indeed. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 07:24, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    What's a request? Is it an edit, or a page request (i.e. my computer asks the server to send a page), or something else? Nyttend (talk) 10:44, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Nyttend, any communication your browser makes with the servers. For a page, that is usually dozens of requests (each image is a separate request for example). For an edit, it is a single request. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 11:15, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    See Talk:Whist marker, for the views this trifling monograph has attracted over time - i.e. very few until suddenly 100,000 in one day! Do we have any ideas why this might happen? (I have seen previous hadwavey "bot" explanations, of similar phenomena, do we have anything concrete?)

    All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 21:34, 14 July 2019 (UTC).
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    @@ -1114,7 +1114,7 @@ Evolutionary history of life · ‎Timeline of the evolutionary ... · ‎Earlie
    So whatever's going on is presenting itself with all sorts of platforms. Nyttend (talk) 22:39, 14 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Just Reddit helping people figure out what their random junk is: [17]. Top comment links the Wikipedia article. Modulus12 (talk) 22:51, 14 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Ah, this is the modern equivalent of being slashdotted! Thanks! All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 14:49, 15 July 2019 (UTC).
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    Just curious. Neither Help:Page information nor Help:Watchlist say. Nardog (talk) 15:44, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    @Nardog: not sure, but the API docs describe it further as the number of watchers of each page who have visited recent edits to that page. — xaosflux Talk 15:54, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)] @@ -1122,7 +1122,7 @@ Evolutionary history of life · ‎Timeline of the evolutionary ... · ‎Earlie
    @Anomie: Thanks. Could you point to where that code is ? I don't know jack about PHP but it seems to me InfoAction.php and the variable "RCMaxAge" have something to do with it, but I could be far off. Nardog (talk) 16:37, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    @Nardog: You're in one of the right files. The actual database query happens at WatchedItemStore.php lines 366–382, called from InfoAction.php line 775 and ApiQueryInfo.php line 927 with a cutoff time based on $wgWatchersMaxAge. $wgRCMaxAge is involved in counting the number of "recent" edits, for a different threshold of "recent". Anomie⚔ 11:31, 13 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Thanks, edited Help:Page information. Nardog (talk) 15:41, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Is there an easy way to remove all pages which I did not create from my watchlist? Thank you, DuncanHill (talk) 10:21, 14 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    @DuncanHill: - no. You could use Special:EditWatchlist/raw to get a dump of your watchlist, then get a query of pages you created and use an offwiki utility to subtract them, then replace the list with your new list. — xaosflux Talk 19:52, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)] @@ -1175,7 +1175,7 @@ Evolutionary history of life · ‎Timeline of the evolutionary ... · ‎Earlie

    The VisualEditor on mobile is a good place to learn more about the projects we are working on. The team wants to talk with you about anything related to editing. If you have something to say or ask, please leave a message at Talk:VisualEditor on mobile.

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    Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

    Recent changes @@ -1196,7 +1196,7 @@ Evolutionary history of life · ‎Timeline of the evolutionary ... · ‎Earlie

    15:29, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

    Don't waste your time trying to give feedback on the Android item; the "leave feedback" page doesn't let you add a new section and doesn't even have an edit button. Nyttend (talk) 21:43, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

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    I had an idea that the Dashboard should be on the sidebar below the Community Portal. I don't know how to add it locally, and I feel it should be sitewide anyway. Thoughts? Remagoxer (talk) 09:19, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    An administrator can add it to MediaWiki:Sidebar but I see no good reason. The first link in Wikipedia:Community portal is Wikipedia:Dashboard and it's linked twice more. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:04, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    There's a bounty of 50$ for anyone who manages to solve T27471 which concerns with adding a "delete associated talk page" checkbox to the delete form. The commit must be shepherded through code-review and merged to the master-branch; customized java-script based fixes are disallowed. ~ Winged BladesGodric 05:58, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    If anyone is interested, but no idea how to proceed, take a look at mw:How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker. Some knowledge of LAMP is necessary. --qedk (t 桜 c) 06:37, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    I have made a related suggestion at MediaWiki talk:Confirmdeletetext#Add link to delete an associated talk page. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:08, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Tracked in Phabricator
    Task T228116

    Some time ago, the save button was replaced with a "publish changes" button. I work with an awful lot of new editors both on-wiki and off-wiki, and it is perhaps the most frequent source of confusion (after maybe why VE doesn't work on talk pages -- but that's a whole other deal with technical constraints). The awkward language choice of part of the interface shouldn't be something I have to bring up in every introduction to editing session I run (and shouldn't be something that confuses so many people even after bringing it up). Specifically, it comes up when new users are starting to edit in their userspace, in a sandbox, in a draft, etc. -- people see "publish changes" and hesitate because of the implications of "publish".

    I'm sure there have been threads about this in the past, but I'm not sure the best way to search for this. Has this change been well-received otherwise? — Rhododendrites talk \\ 17:44, 11 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)] @@ -1236,12 +1236,12 @@ Evolutionary history of life · ‎Timeline of the evolutionary ... · ‎Earlie

    @Redrose64 and Whatamidoing (WMF): I've not found it an issue for new editors at editathons and workshops. I almost always guide new editors through their first edit, which is normally to their user page to say what topics they are interested in. I make a point of explaining that publishing it makes it visible to the whole world and caution against writing anything that they wouldn't want everyone to see. After that I use "publish" and "save" interchangeably and I don't believe I've ever found anyone confused by that. Hope that helps. --RexxS (talk) 15:08, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    I concur with the OP; it's a point of confusion, as happened with the last event i ran, earlier this month. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:28, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Is there an easy way, perhaps a module or template, to add a "unregistered"/"registered" differentiation to {{uw-paid1}} and {{uw-paid2}}?

    These important templates currently give wrong advice to IP editors; see Template talk:Uw-paid1#"User page" disclosure for IP addresses. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 14:00, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    I do not think those templates should be used to warn "IP addresses" as they're not meant for that. Paid editing is done with accounts that's why the disclosure is needed on userpages. If an IP address is persistently making promotional or suspicious editing, they should be reported to the appropriate noticeboard not be asked to disclose their client on their "IP userpage" which does not make sense. – Ammarpad (talk) 18:36, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Timeline and map of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World, including the Village pump (technical)/Archive 175

    Hi. In our Colossus of Rhodes article is a timeline/map of the 7 wonders, which inadvertently implies that there were 8 of them (by referring to the Colossus "and the other 7" wonders).

    I cannot find this caption in the text of the page, nor at File:Ancient seven wonders timeline.svg. Where is it? --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 11:33, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)] @@ -1257,39 +1257,39 @@ Evolutionary history of life · ‎Timeline of the evolutionary ... · ‎Earlie

    I'm so bad with tech, I feel like a wonder of the ancient world myself --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 13:44, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Put the template on your userpage then! DuncanHill (talk) 13:48, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
     Done --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 14:25, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    When a user drafts content with references in a sandbox, if using the Visual Editor it is necessary to enter edit mode before copying in order to retain the references. If the user doesn't copy from edit mode, the superscript links will be retained, but they will be links back to the original page (where the footnote anchor would be) without the reference itself. You can see an example of this in my sandbox:

    This sandbox shows the first paragraph from the body of Wikipedia copied from edit mode.

    This sandbox shows the same paragraph copied without entering edit mode.

    It would be useful to have an edit filter or some other way to indicate when this happens. This is something I always tell new users, but which people very regularly forget about, just to introduce improperly formatted content into an article when trying to copy out of a sandbox. It seems like this could be easily detected by looking for superscript tags around a link to a different page. (Another common sign this happened is that "[edit]" appears inside a heading). Ideally, this would notify the user when they try to save, but an edit filter could be useful, too. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 18:25, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    @Rhododendrites: I suggest you move this to Wikipedia:Edit filter/Requested - where the volunteers that write filters can better asses it. It is possible to just make a "warn" filter as well. — xaosflux Talk 17:19, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Is it only for me or it is down? Here I get errors, and when trying to change language too. Please ping me, I don't want this page in watchlist because there are many changes... --Obsuser (talk) 21:58, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

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    Beland (talk · contribs) has been replacing HTML character references with the actual characters they represent, using JWB. Is there a consensus or justification for this?

    The replacements are concerning to me especially given they include characters in Private Use Areas, which IMHO are best left as references (frankly I don't think they should ever be used in articles in the first place, but still). And even if it was justified, wouldn't it fall under WP:COSMETICBOT? Nardog (talk) 21:50, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Greetings! I was actually wondering whether I should be keeping Private Use Area HTML entities as they are. In my browser, I can see the Unicode point number of characters I don't have fonts for, but I'm not sure about other editors. This began as part of a spell checking and Manual of Style compliance project. I'm trying to bundle HTML entity cleanup with any punctuation cleanup on the same articles, so there aren't a bunch of minor commits. Right now I'm working on a list of only about 5,000 articles; in some cases, the HTML entities represent breakage so there's reader-visible cleanup to do, but you're right it's often only editor-visible. I've been getting occasional thanks for the entity cleanup, though; where done right it makes the wikitext a lot more readable, especially to editors who don't know HTML. (For example, café is a lot easier to read and edit than caf&#xC9;.) I had a conversation with some MOS editors before starting this, and there was a strong consensus in favor of converting numeric HTML entities where possible, unless the result would be confusing, and I made a list of confusing situations to exclude. Unfortunately, Unicode is a huge place and no one thought about potential problems with combining characters (I'm leaving those alone after editors on some Arabic-langugage-related pages rightfully complained) or the private use area or a handful of other things where I'm trying to building bottom-up consensus. I'm leaning toward PUA characters being too confusing to convert, so I'll add them to my exclusion list unless someone here would much rather see real characters than numeric entities? Ah, I see Template:PUA actually says not to convert them; that's also a page that will probably give a comprehensive list of articles they are used in, if anyone wants to go around pruning any unnecessary ones. -- Beland (talk) 23:14, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Greetings, I just discovered that an edit to a page I have watchlisted (Special:Diff/906832193) is apparently a phantom, as it did not appear on my watchlist and the ping did not trigger a notification. I already checked that the ping was done correctly, my preferences enable me to be notified by said ping, and that the page is indeed on my watchlist. Also, my watchlist has updates later than this edit, and I got notifications as recently as yesterday and have not knowingly changed any settings since. None of this explains the conspicuous absence of this edit from both my watchlist and notifications.

    I therefore ask: has anyone else experienced such a problem, and is there a solution that either I have overlooked or can be implemented by a "reset" of preferences? Thanks, ComplexRational (talk) 18:58, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Addendum: The edit in question is also not listed in the project's recent changes feed, probably suggesting that the problem is not on my end. ComplexRational (talk) 19:43, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    For the watchlist, I believe it is the same issue that was resolved earlier in January at phab:T211849, but I believe it still occur sporadically. I've experienced that some weeks ago but didn't have time to report the issue. You can report it again. For the ping, I am not sure why it didn't work. – Ammarpad (talk) 05:05, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    What you're describing sounds like phab:T225199. I'm looking into it. Legoktm (talk) 07:23, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Computer-kitten.jpg

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0FTcG7PxzI has some information about how code gets deployed, if anyone's interested in learning more about Wikipedia's back end. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 01:11, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    I'm honestly just a little disappointed the video actually had information on how code gets deployed, rather than footage of hamsters running over a keyboard. Someguy1221 (talk) 01:20, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Nice! SD0001 (talk) 18:42, 20 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    In the File Upload Wizard, the radio boxes in Step 3 are invisible on my system. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 00:30, 20 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    What is your system? Ruslik_Zero 08:27, 21 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    This isn't necessarily Wikipedia-related, but look at the Official website under "External links". After you click on the official website, the URL at the top of the screen is correct but there is a 500 error. When I go to the site and click on the correct link there, everything is fine. So I have changed the official website so it will work. — Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 16:59, 13 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    @@ -1317,7 +1317,7 @@ Evolutionary history of life · ‎Timeline of the evolutionary ... · ‎Earlie
    I was watching to see if I got any kind of response from the people fixing the software. My suggestion was that if the other URL does nothing but what is called "redirect" on Wikipedia, why not just bypass that?— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 17:55, 20 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Sometimes website are broken and there is nothing to do but wait and hope. We could try to change all URLs to the redirect and/or adding archive links for non-working links. But since they said they are working on it, we should wait. -- GreenC 18:07, 20 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    If the only problem were with the websites first 'redirect' page, then yet it would be fine to just bypass this - but please see above - the problem is not with the first link, it is with where they redirect it to. — xaosflux Talk 17:37, 21 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Hello, does anybody know how/who can fix the Template linking and transclusion check tool JMHamo (talk) 11:51, 21 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Maybe author? (If he's active). MarMi wiki (talk) 18:04, 21 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    I have recently become confused by some transclusions on sports seasons articles such as 2019–20 UEFA Europa League, which under the "third qualifying round" header just has the following code to produce the fixtures table, with no edit button as is usual on templates:

    {{#lst:2019–20 UEFA Europa League qualifying phase and play-off round|Q3}}

    I cannot find the corresponding template or module for this anywhere, can anyone give me a hand? @@ -1368,16 +1368,16 @@ Evolutionary history of life · ‎Timeline of the evolutionary ... · ‎Earlie

    Well "template documentation" isn't really "article text" is it? :D — xaosflux Talk 15:32, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    It's not, but the OP provided an example where labeled-section-transclusion is used in article text which avoids the no-article-text-in-template-space proscription. My csdoc example is intended to show that were article text allowed in template space, such use of templates can be unwieldy. So am I to understand that while you consider labeled-section-transclusion to be an abomination, you don't have a better solution?
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    I noticed today that when you click on a reference which is a bare URL in Visual Editor, the edit box has a bottom section that says, This reference consists of just an external link. You can use the "Convert" button below to generate a properly formatted reference. Is this new, or have I just never noticed it before? -- RoySmith (talk) 22:54, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    No, this convert button message is not new. It was added at November 1, 2015. It is part of the citoid extension, which is bundled with VisualEditor.--Snaevar (talk) 09:16, 21 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Interesting, but weird that I've never noticed it before. Has something changed to make it more obvious? My usual process has been to copy the URL, create a new Automatic citation, then delete the old reference. It's just odd that I've never noticed the Convert button before, which does all that with so much less effort. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:45, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Requesting help updating some wiki templates (non-Lua). I don't know how to do it. Can you help? Template_talk:Vcite_book#Support_for_archive-url_vs._archiveurl. Cross posted to Wikipedia:Requested_templates#Vcite_template_updates. -- GreenC 16:12, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    This is done, though {{vcite book}} could still use support for |archiveurl= and |archivedate= in case anyone wants to add it, examples in other vcite templates. -- GreenC 17:45, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Dear all,

    As I noted at the end of June, through the summer we will be running systems tests in preparation for the end of year fundraiser on the English Wikipedia.

    This weeks test is scheduled for 1500 UTC Wednesday 17 July. @@ -1389,7 +1389,7 @@ Evolutionary history of life · ‎Timeline of the evolutionary ... · ‎Earlie

    Thank you in advance for your support. Seddon (WMF) (talk) 22:26, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Just to bump this thread that we will be testing again 1500 UTC Wednesday 24 July. Many Thanks. Seddon (WMF) (talk) 20:28, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Hello. On my talk page Mnnlaxer asked about a situation with the collapsed tables at the Israel men's national lacrosse team article. Because they are blue readers can't see the "show/hide" command. I think I've seen tables where they are highlighted in white but I have no idea how to make the change. Any help that can be provided will be appreciated. MarnetteD|Talk 18:41, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    MarnetteD, would it be okay if someone changed the background of the title from blue to green? You can do that by replacing all "#274da9" with "Green"--SharabSalam (talk) 19:01, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)] @@ -1407,11 +1407,11 @@ Evolutionary history of life · ‎Timeline of the evolutionary ... · ‎Earlie

    Thanks PrimeHunter for figuring out the code and Gonnym for fixing MOS issues, including removing the hidden tables. Onward and upward with the arts! --- Mnnlaxer | talk | stalk 17:44, 25 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

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    For two talk pages. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Juul and see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Pax_Labs QuackGuru (talk) 18:51, 25 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    @QuackGuru: see Help:Archiving_a_talk_page#Automated_archiving for some code snippet you can put on a page to request bot archiving functionality. — xaosflux Talk 19:02, 25 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Hi, i am Monniasza, and I have found bug in "Allow navigation menus to be collapsed" gadget. It causes sidebar to get malformed by icorrectly indenting its contents.

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    What is your browser? What is your skin at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering? It's indented but collapsing works for me in Google Chrome and Internet Explorer. I guess the indentation is intentional and wouldn't call it malformed. Are you saying that it doesn't work for you, or that you just don't like the indentation? The code is in MediaWiki:Gadget-CollapsibleNav.js and MediaWiki:Gadget-CollapsibleNav.css. Example without enabling the gadget in preferences: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example?withJS=MediaWiki:Gadget-CollapsibleNav.js&withCSS=MediaWiki:Gadget-CollapsibleNav.css. Example with the JavaScript but not the CSS (don't enable the gadget): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example?withJS=MediaWiki:Gadget-CollapsibleNav.js. Does that work better for you? PrimeHunter (talk) 09:44, 26 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    I used Google Chrome browser, Vector skin. Monniasza talk edits 17:41, 26 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Undo script[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    mobileUndo script is an userscript created for mobile. It basically adds a button to revert the latest revision of an article while previewing a diff on the mobile website. Currently there isn't any undo feature in mobile version of the mediawiki software (as far as I know). It meets the general criteria for gadgets and I have the original creator's permission. Therefore I am proposing this script to be approved as a gadget. Should we approve of this script as a gadget? Masum Reza📞 12:01, 28 June 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Source code – Here (maintainer's copy, probably outdated)
    @@ -1484,7 +1484,7 @@ It causes sidebar to get malformed by icorrectly indenting its contents.
  • Weak support (invited by the bot) I favor simplicity vs. trimming seconds off of the "revert" time, but it looks like its inclusion is optional, and that lots of good work has been done. North8000 (talk) 13:04, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
  • Support as a non-default gadget. SD0001 (talk) 16:59, 21 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
  • Well, it would be nice if jQuery or something was used instead of constructing long HTML strings directly. See also Musik's comments on his talk page, which I think should probably be addressed. Gadgets do run on the mobile skin, right? Enterprisey (talk!) 08:54, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    6 million articles already?[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    According to the Wikimedia Statistics page, we already have over 6 million articles. However, the main page says we're over 100,000 short. It seems to me these two values should be the same. Discuss? Samsara 09:25, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Counter on the main page should be updated after every refresh. Why it isn't (in 2019)? Eurohunter (talk) 09:43, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)] @@ -1508,12 +1508,12 @@ It causes sidebar to get malformed by icorrectly indenting its contents.
  • Wikipedia => "Nos Auxilium Facere Interrete Non Lactaverunt."
  • Wikipedia => "Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. That's what we're doing."
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    Code to access templates between Wikis?[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    Code to access templates between Wikis?[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    QUESTION: Is there some code that can access a template residing on the English Wikipedia - from another Wikipedia like, for example, the Simple Wikipedia? More specifically, the template {{ScienceNews}} resides on the English Wikipedia - Question: Can this {{ScienceNews}} template be accessed from the Simple Wikipedia (without recreating/duplicating the template on the Simple Wikipedia)? If so, what code may be used? - tia - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 16:01, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Drbogdan, Interwiki templates are not currently supported on WMF wikis, mostly for performance and usability reasons. There's been some interest in developing the software to do this well for a long time (including in the 2015 Community Wishlist Survey where it was a top-10 wish), but nothing has developed out of it. --AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 16:18, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    @AntiCompositeNumber: Thank you *very much* for your comments - they're *greatly* appreciated - at least I'm now better informed about this - has my vote in developing this software if helpful - in any case - Thanks again - and - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 17:00, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Unable to edit my watchlist?[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    Unable to edit my watchlist?[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    Problem: For some reason, I'm unable to edit my watchlist (via "View and edit watchlist" or "Edit raw watchlist" in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EditWatchlist ) - even after restoring all default settings in my "Preferences" - and regardless of the browser used (latest versions of "Brave"; "Chrome"; "Firefox" used; Windows10/1903; Dell-XPS 8900) - seems earlier, all was *completely* ok with editing the watchlist - but now the listing in my watchlist (in edit mode) seems to appear very, very briefly - and then disappears? - any help with this would be appreciated - in any case - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 15:16, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    @Drbogdan: do you have a large (many thousand+) number of entries on your WL? Can you see if you can edit it using this safemode link? — xaosflux Talk 15:37, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)] @@ -1534,11 +1534,11 @@ importScript('User:SD0001/oldSearchHistory.js');---> - not clear if t
    Drbogdan, problem script fixed. SD0001 (talk) 16:27, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    @SD0001: Thank you *very much* for your comment - and help with this - may try the fixed script at my next opportunity - iac - Thanks again - and - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 17:07, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    @SD0001: Checked the new fixed script - and the "WatchList Edit" now seems to work *very well* - Thank you for your help and efforts with this - they're *greatly* appreciated - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 17:53, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Popups - little white box above the link[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    Popups - little white box above the link[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    When I point my cursor at a link, as well as the usual popup preview thingy, I also get a little white box appearing above the link. I think it started in the last hour or so. Is this a new feature? It doesn't appear to do anything useful, or indeed at all. DuncanHill (talk) 23:01, 28 July 2019 (UTC) Sorry should have said, monobook, Edge, Win10. DuncanHill (talk) 23:01, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

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    Template's FULLPAGENAME in documentation[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    Template's FULLPAGENAME in documentation[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    Resolved

    I'm looking for a template to produce the pagename of a template on both template's main page and template's doc subpage? That is, a template equivalent to following code:

    @@ -1550,12 +1550,12 @@ Sorry should have said, monobook, Edge, Win10. Thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for. Added the template to Category:Pagename manipulation templates. —⁠andrybak (talk) 01:51, 29 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    @Andrybak: You may have been looking in the wrong place, since these are not templates - they are variables. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 08:13, 29 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    {{TEMPLATENAME}} is a template. Its name is just chosen with all uppercase like magic word variables. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:07, 29 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Biography - authority control[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    Biography - authority control[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    On the biography for Paul Ricœur, the authority control box has the following text in red font: The RERO id 02-A000137666 is not valid. Can someone fix it? Thanks! 2607:FEA8:1DE0:7B4:F81D:4C1A:755A:7B9F (talk) 03:20, 29 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    The ID itself is valid but actually all RERO IDs were categorized as invalid and I could not find what's causing this in Module:Authority control. Pinging Tom.Reding who added them today. – Ammarpad (talk) 07:25, 29 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    @IP & @Ammarpad:  fixed.   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  10:51, 29 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Google Maps can't find some decimal coordinates[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    Google Maps can't find some decimal coordinates[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    Not a Wikipedia problem, as it occurs even when Wikipedia is not involved, but affects a lot of articles so it's worth raising here. Maybe somebody knows something about this, and in any case editors need awareness of the problem.

    Google Maps says it "can't find" some, but not all, geo coordinates in decimal format. Example 53.111,-2.245, a location near Manchester UK. ―Mandruss ☎ 20:00, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    @@ -1563,7 +1563,7 @@ Sorry should have said, monobook, Edge, Win10. Hmm, indeed. ―Mandruss ☎ 20:10, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    That's interesting. I also played around with the precision and 53.11100, -2.24500 doesn't work for me. Killiondude (talk) 20:11, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    For an example of an actual affected article, see 2014 Isla Vista killings. Google Maps takes you to Isla Vista but displays the error and fails to place a marker. Appending one zero to the end of either lat or long fixes it.
    At this link is a place to report errors in Google Maps, but it requires a Google sign in. I don't have a Google account and I don't care to create one for this purpose. Perhaps someone else could report this error and return any feedback here.
    If we can't get this error fixed soon, we should start thinking about a change to the software we control to work around it. Accepting this for the indefinite term is out of the question in my opinion. ―Mandruss ☎ 12:20, 29 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    {{collapsible option}} works incorrectly[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    {{collapsible option}} works incorrectly[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    I used this template correctly, but it doesn't work. Look at my signature, it contains afromentioned template. Monniasza talk Initial visibility: currently defaults to autocollapse

    To set this template's initial visibility, the |state= parameter may be used: @@ -1597,7 +1597,7 @@ Sorry should have said, monobook, Edge, Win10. Tech news prepared by Tech News writers and posted by bot • Contribute • Translate • Get help • Give feedback • Subscribe or unsubscribe.

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    Colors of class=wikitable?[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    Colors of class=wikitable?[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    Quick question, but I can't find the answer. What are the color codes for the default wikitable? For the grey background and the darker grey header? Thanks, Renata (talk) 02:33, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

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    Title italics magazines[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    Title italics magazines[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    So, see how the title Poetry (magazine) is italicized on the article page only in the magazine title, Poetry, how do I get the title for British Vogue to read British Vogue in the article title (again only italicizing the magazine's actual name)? Alanscottwalker (talk) 17:16, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    See this edit. -- WOSlinker (talk) 17:22, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Thanks. Alanscottwalker (talk) 17:38, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Signature with unclosed font colours[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    Signature with unclosed font colours[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    I need help working out how to fix the signature of Oddbodz (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log) (inactive since May). There is a black font at the end which renders following text black, and therefor invisibly to users of the green-on-black gadget. There are other font colors in the signature which, if the black is removed, then bleed over into following text. I tried to fix it here, but somehow buggered it up in another way. Help! Thanks, DuncanHill (talk) 15:43, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    done. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:47, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)] @@ -1627,12 +1627,12 @@ Sorry should have said, monobook, Edge, Win10. @DuncanHill: plain speak is fine there, something like "can one of the Linter signature fixing bots clean up Oddbodz's bad font tags?" with an example or 2. — xaosflux Talk 17:50, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    @DuncanHill: Based on Xaosflux's sandbox, I'm filing a BRFA now --DannyS712 (talk) 18:35, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Thank you, much appreciated. DuncanHill (talk) 19:35, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Connecting between pages[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    Connecting between pages[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    Hello everyone, how to connect between a template and a CSS page? Thanks! ⇒ AramTalk 12:04, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    @Aram: see Wikipedia:TemplateStyles. — xaosflux Talk 13:15, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Also Category:Templates using TemplateStyles has lots of reusable examples. — xaosflux Talk 13:16, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    'Fun' with external link 'marks'[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    'Fun' with external link 'marks'[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    "Discovered" at Wikipedia talk:Principle of Some Astonishment#Random thing I noticed when somebody accidentally "nested" italic marks. The "nesting" obviously doesn't work, and is an error, because the italics are effectively 'closed' before the link text and 'opened' again after it, so you don't get italic text, but check out the funky "extra" link mark which gets added on the left of the link text...

    @@ -1645,14 +1645,14 @@ Sorry should have said, monobook, Edge, Win10. ''[https://www.google.com ''normal text'']'' produces the html <i><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.google.com"></a></i><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.google.com">normal text<i></i></a>. The link is split in two links to the same target. The first arrow belongs to the first link which has no link text. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:48, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Yeah, I'd looked at the html source and seen that. It's an oddity that this "error" produces a double-link like that, as I said at the talk page it's something I've never seen happen before in 10 years, but an odd "bug" nonetheless... Looks as though the wikitext 'parser' is somehow seeing both <i>...</i> 'portions' as separate 'entities' that each need linking, yet using the single href target address... -- Begoon 22:22, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    The wikitext parser produces misnested HTML: <i><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.google.com"></i>normal text<i></a>. HTML5 specifies that that "tag soup" be corrected in a manner that produces the empty link, and thus that's what RemexHtml does. Firefox 68 does the same if given that misnested HTML, BTW, and other modern browsers should as well.

    Parsoid, on the other hand, seems to interpret that wikitext to produce <i><a rel="mw:ExtLink" href="https://www.google.com" class="external text"><i>normal text</i></a></i>, i.e. it doesn't recognize "misnested" apostrophe markup and link markup in the first place. Anomie⚔ 13:31, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Switch transclusion on/off depending on how recently a template/subpage has been edited?[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    Switch transclusion on/off depending on how recently a template/subpage has been edited?[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    Do we have a template/magic word combination that can achieve the following? I would like Portal:Germany to display Portal:Germany/Germany news whenever that page has been recently edited, and not display it when it is too embarrassing (say, when the last edit is more than a month ago). Is there some easy way to achieve this? —Kusma (t·c) 10:01, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    {{#ifexpr:{{#time:U|{{REVISIONTIMESTAMP:Portal:Germany/Germany news}}}} > {{#time:U|-30 days}} | {{Portal:Germany/Germany news}}}} PrimeHunter (talk) 10:42, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    PrimeHunter, that's brilliant, thanks! —Kusma (t·c) 11:12, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    @Kusma: keep in mind, that dynamic page content is not guaranteed, especially for non-logged in users; rendered pages are cached and simply viewing the page as a reader does not force re-evaluation of templates. — xaosflux Talk 13:28, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    That's okay, the worst things that can happen here are that the portal wrongly doesn't display a refreshed "news" section or displays an outdated one that I would rather hide. Neither causes any serious problems. But it is a good point that we shouldn't rely on re-evaluation of templates/magic words for anything critical. —Kusma (t·c) 14:08, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Connecting to wikidata?[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    Connecting to wikidata?[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    What's the fastest way to see if there's an existing wikidata entry for an article? What I do now is open another window, navigate to wikidata.org, and copy-paste the article title into the search box. Surely there's a more streamlined (one-click?) way to do this? -- RoySmith (talk) 14:43, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    You can add a "Wikidata search" link for the page name under Tools with the below in your common JavaScript. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:18, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    @@ -1677,13 +1677,13 @@ Sorry should have said, monobook, Edge, Win10. MA, yes, I think the question is whether an (other) item exist covering the same topic as an article, not whether the article is connected to a Wikidata item. --Izno (talk) 22:02, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Thanks, and sorry for the noise. I read "existing wikidata entry for an article" as being a connected one. Furthermore many people don't even know about the links under Tools, so I wanted to make sure that didn't go unnoticed. — MusikAnimal talk 15:08, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    The link is getting moved, but that's just an aside. --Izno (talk) 16:26, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Broken template messing up page formatting[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    Broken template messing up page formatting[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    User:Paine Ellsworth, can you or someone please revert this edit at Template:Sidebar with collapsible lists? It is badly breaking *some* pages that transclude it. See Catholic Church and homosexuality. Mathglot (talk) 08:58, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Wait, that's a hidden text-only change, so how could that possibly be the cause? But what else has changed, that would break dozens of older versions of the article, that were definitely not broken this morning? Here's version 861002525 from 500 edits ago; just as broken. I can't understand what's happened, here. Mathglot (talk) 09:03, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    The problem is (was) in {{Catholic Church sidebar}}, not {{Sidebar with collapsible lists}}. It was this edit by Royalistandlegitimist that broke the template. I advise Royalistandlegitimist to take advantage of the sandbox and testcases before making changes to the template. Nardog (talk) 09:11, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Thanks, Nardog, for the fix! (Apologies to Paine; not only weren't they the cause of the problem, but that edit was (nearly exactly!) a year ago. I was too tired and in too much of a hurry to see clearly.) Mathglot (talk) 17:41, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    The notification button[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    Resolved: Fixed in the last update of MediaWiki. Nardog (talk) 05:45, 2 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Tracked in Phabricator
    Task T228744

    Hi, so I am using my mobile. @@ -1745,7 +1745,7 @@ Sorry should have said, monobook, Edge, Win10. @Flyer22 Reborn: Sorry, that's not my area. I usually work with a desktop browser with scripting disabled—I much prefer Wikipedia that way (except when I need to run some JavaScript). I find notifications to be a PITA with scripting enabled but have no idea whether more experience with that would help. Johnuniq (talk) 00:55, 25 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

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    Strikethrough blocked editors and SPI[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    Strikethrough blocked editors and SPI[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    Hi all Bbb23, Vanjagenije and myself are somewhat frustrated because the strikethrough blocked editors gadget/script is apparently not working with external links to user pages. At SPI this isn't great because {{checkuser}} uses external links to avoid pinging the users in question. Is there a solution to his? TonyBallioni (talk) 20:05, 2 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    For additional background, please see Wikipedia talk:Sockpuppet investigations/Archives/Archive22#Markblocked. Also, it should be noted that the links to the master and to the list of suspected puppets do not correctly show as red if no userpage exists.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:08, 2 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    @@ -1757,7 +1757,7 @@ Sorry should have said, monobook, Edge, Win10. What is the precise bug? As far as I see, iff the user-pages are red-links, they are displayed in blue and not stricken but the t/p-and-contribution links are stricken, as usual. (Bravanello over this SPI.) Otherwise, (i.e. if the user-page exists), all the three links are indeed stricken. (MDPMHG over this SPI.) Am I correct? ∯WBGconverse 20:51, 2 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    I don't really agree about MDPMHG - it is not stricken in the first instance, which uses the noping like the usual CU templates, but it is later stricken when a different template is used. Try AIV, which basically uses the same noping mechanism. this is a blue userpage which isn't stricken. This is a non-existent user page which is blue and also not stricken. The striking does work for IPs at AIV (eg) which have red userpages, but not IP contributions listed at WP:OPD which are now not stricken. Previously, I think I'm right in saying, all these links were stricken. -- zzuuzz (talk) 21:31, 2 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
  • Just, FYI: I've replied with a (hopefully) fixed script at the thread on WT:SPI. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 05:11, 3 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    technical request[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    Anachronist suggested me to try asking for this request here

    The ip range 151.48.0.0/17 was globally blocked by a steward because a user from this ip range used it to create several fake accounts and spam messages accross wikipedia

    Anachronist unblocked locally in en.wikipedia.org the possibility to create accounts from this ip range but there must be a glitch or a bug because if i try creating an account from the blocked ip range appears the same error message @@ -1795,7 +1795,7 @@ Sorry should have said, monobook, Edge, Win10. Semplicemente Agghiacciante (talk) 12:12, 3 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

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    Clicking on this link causes my processor to jump into overload and the page completely freezes. This happens in Linux Chrome 75 (not FF) private or standard mode. Is anyone else experiencing this issue? In IRC, User:AntiCompositeNumber mentioned it took longer than average but it did load for him. Magog the Ogre (t • c) 15:32, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    The page loads normally for me in Google Chrome 75 on Linux until it gets to File:ImbaKernale1936.tiff, which is displayed as a png thumbnail in the page. The thumbnail takes approximately 30 seconds to load, during which time part of the page does not render, links do not work, and Chrome task manager show the tab as using ~100% CPU. Loading the thumbnail directly produces the same issue: 30s load time and 100% CPU. On Firefox, the thumbnail loads in 2000ms with maybe 10% cpu. --AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 16:02, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)] @@ -1803,15 +1803,15 @@ Sorry should have said, monobook, Edge, Win10. A conversion to JPG might also reveal any errors in the tiff that are causing rendering problems in browsers. When I try to view the tiff in Firefox and then "+" to expand to full size it doesn't work but prompts for file download. -- GreenC 16:40, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    The TIFF seems to be a valid TIFF. But it contains a large block of data (about 20M of the 21M file) that's some sort of "Adobe Photoshop Document Data Block". That gets copied into the PNG thumbnail, and apparently the excessively large PNG chunk is making Chrome do a lot of work to process it. I have no idea whether the data in this huge block is legitimate Photoshop data or something else embedded. Anomie⚔ 23:33, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    TIFF and article are loading normally for me (maximally in 2 seconds). Eurohunter (talk) 15:48, 3 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    2019 Hong Kong anti-extradition bill protests[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    How it's done that Hong Kong English banner is showing on the top of the page while editing? Eurohunter (talk) 15:50, 3 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Template:Editnotices/Page/2019 Hong Kong anti-extradition bill protests. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:52, 3 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    For two talk pages. See Talk:Juul and see Talk:Pax_Labs QuackGuru (talk) 17:33, 3 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    When you say "re-request", where are the previous requests? We would like to see why they were not actioned. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:36, 3 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Authority Control: "The NLR id XXXXXXXXX is not valid"[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    Authority Control: "The NLR id XXXXXXXXX is not valid"[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    I'm seeing this large notice in red on all kinds of Authority Control templates now. Also "The BNC id XXXXXXXXXX is not valid". Sample: [31]. Could someone please fix this? Softlavender (talk) 08:36, 3 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    It was broken by this edit which added the identifiers here for the first time. NLP with 2K+ pages is broken too. For instance; its regex requires every id to be prefixed with 9810- but the 2500+ broken pages seem to be using IDs in the form of A12345678; i.e 'A' prefix followed by 8 numbers. If the regex by Tom.Reding is correct, then all those ids have to be corrected from Wikidata otherwise the regex needs to be corrected. – Ammarpad (talk) 09:20, 3 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)] @@ -1822,7 +1822,7 @@ Sorry should have said, monobook, Edge, Win10. This discussion should probably move to Template talk:Authority control. --Izno (talk) 17:22, 3 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    I commented-out the IDs in the module to avoid the problem, see template talk. Johnuniq (talk) 02:22, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Request for Comments: WikiLoop Battlefield[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    Request for Comments: WikiLoop Battlefield[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    Hi Techy Wikipedians, I'd like to invite you to try out an open source tool we are actively developing: WikiLoop Battlefield. It's goal is to make monitoring Wikipedia incoming edits, in particular, potential vandalism, easier.

    See it here

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    Xinbenlv(t) please notify me with {{ping}} 04:57, 3 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    @Xinbenlv: For the "what links here" page to function, it's better to link to the page using wiki-markup: Wikipedia:WikiLoop Battlefield. I had an incredibly frustrating experience earlier this afternoon because a user made an incomplete revert with this tool, which shouldn't even be possible in the first place, at Federation of Australia, an article on my watchlist. It was difficult to figure out where to report the issue; I've added the GitHub link to the project page and reported it there. I also wrote a message on Meta; I don't feel like reporting the second issue there to GitHub because it's so minor, but it's about where the link in the edit summary should go. I consider the first issue so major that I don't think the program should make any more edits until it is fixed. Graham87 07:00, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Barnstars picture issue - Davey2010.png

    Hi, Yesterday night I'd reinstated my userpage however I've noticed a few barnstar pictures not showing on my userpage or at User:Davey2010/Barnstars,
    I've tried CTRL & F5 as well as WP:PURGE but nothing's working?, The pictures show on other editors userpages so I would assume it's either related to my barnstars page or my laptop?,
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    Is there a way to make our preferences global, or at least the default across the different wiki sites? — Ched :  ?  — 20:13, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Try Special:GlobalPreferences. --Izno (talk) 20:23, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)] @@ -1870,7 +1870,7 @@ Thanks, –Thank you Redrose64. I noticed that now I have the option to override individual settings now, and that the gadgets aren't available globally. It's still enough to make any efforts outside en-wp a bit more similar. Appreciate the help folks. — Ched :  ?  — 21:17, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    No, gadgets are local to each wiki. But if you know how to use @import in CSS and mw.loader.load in JavaScript, it's possible to use a gadget from one wiki on another wiki. For example, there are no gadgets at Wicipedia Cymraeg - yet I use one there, by means of cy:Defnyddiwr:Redrose64/common.js. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:39, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Which actually can be extended by addition to your global CSS and JS pages at e.g. meta:User:Izno/global.css and meta:User:Izno/global.js. You can probably load certain gadgets optionally on certain wikis with a little more know how. --Izno (talk) 21:55, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Greetings, While viewing article Blue, it has a template link for {{Shades of blue}} which I noticed is overflowing outside the box on the right side. Next, I clicked on {{Shades of cyan}} with the same issue. So I successfully added <br> to keep the lines within the cyan template box.

    Then I found Category:Shades of color templates and see more templates; most having the same overflow on right side. I see that {{Shades of color}} has a width value of 100-percent, but I don't know if reducing that number is the answer. Asking for help from a "Template Expert" since it's way beyond anything I would know how to do correctly. Thanks, JoeHebda (talk) 16:32, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)] @@ -1878,7 +1878,7 @@ which I noticed is overflowing outside the box on the right side. Next, I clicke

    The problem comes from the fact that {{navbox}} (in Module:Navbox) applies the class "nowraplinks" to the table, preventing all the links from wrapping. Rather than adding <br> all over the place, there should probably be a way for {{Shades of color}} to somehow avoid the use of that class in the first place. Anomie⚔ 19:11, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Have a look at this sandbox change and compare the test cases and see if it's any better. -- WOSlinker (talk) 21:10, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
     Done - Thanks Anomie and WOSlinker for your help! Best solution ever. I changed the {{Shades of color}}, added the "nowraplinks"; checked "Shades of" for Red, Blue, Yellow all of which are now good-no overflow. Lastly, I updated Cyan with undo of my prior "br" changes. Cheers! JoeHebda (talk) 22:36, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    For some reason, in this edit part of the markup was replaced by ... snowmen? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:07, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Seems VE producing snowmen is quite a regular issue per phab search. Galobtter (pingó mió) 20:36, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)] @@ -1913,7 +1913,7 @@ which I noticed is overflowing outside the box on the right side. Next, I clicke

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    The SineBot (talk · contribs) has not made any edits since 2019 Jul 25. What has happened.? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:04, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    The operator, User:Slakr, hasn't edited since 22 July. Maybe something crashed with the bot and Slakr hasn't noticed the problem yet? Or maybe a MediaWiki software change affected something on which the bot depended, making it unable to function? I doubt there's any way to identify the precise problem until Slakr returns to activity — since the source code has not been published, only the operator knows how the bot works, and only the operator can figure out what critical processes may have been broken. And of course, only the operator can check to see if the operator's personal computer has stopped working properly at home. Nyttend (talk) 21:04, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Oh, that's the Commons signbot, operated by Zhuyifei1999. So we might be able to get some help while this outage continues. (Also, we now definitely know that the code works.) I've pinged 'em over on Commons. Enterprisey (talk!) 09:31, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    mh-signbot was a fork by them to operate on Miraheze, which didn't work out at the time due to them lacking eventstreams, no idea about its current state. There are also quite a few other forks, the one I know best is dewiki fork (de:Special:Contribs/CountCountBot), which I haven't had the time to look into closely and upstream any changes, and is worsened by the fact that I did a restructure of the code right after they forked it, but before I noticed the fork... Unfortunately, the code is doomed to deadlock at some point and needs manual restarting.
    As for running it here, I would very much prefer a local bot op to operate it. There are a few site-local customizations that needs changing. The latest code of upstream Commons one is on gist. I'm happy to help if you run into technical issues. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 15:26, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    In the following example table:

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    Graham87, could you check this table and tell us how your screen reader handles it? This table has six lines: "Designation and Discovery" appear on the first line (a header), "Permanent" and "Provisional" and "Citation" and "Date" and "Site" and "Discoverer(s)" and "Category" and "Diam." appear on the second (also a header), the third is spots where one can click to re-sort, and data appear on the fourth through the sixth. Also, there's a "Ref" header that appears in a merged first and second line. Nyttend backup (talk) 16:34, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Not use a screen reader, but as a generic reader this makes me think something is missing by having the controls on their own row with no labels. — xaosflux Talk 16:37, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Hi everyone! Just wrote a new user script. I don't usually announce new ones here, but I think this one is pretty useful. With this script, you can add custom keyboard shortcuts that will take you to any page. You can also have sub-menus, which allow for key sequences. Documentation is at User:Enterprisey/superjump, code is at User:Enterprisey/superjump.js, and I wrote a config tool so you don't have to write JSON if you don't want to. Feedback is welcome! Enterprisey (talk!) 07:19, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Enterprisey, it's a good script. but why can't I get my to work User:CAPTAIN MEDUSA/superjump-config.json ___CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 19:24, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    HotCat does not appear to work with the timeless skin activated. Is there any way to fix this? --PuzzledvegetableIs it teatime already? 19:28, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Puzzledvegetable, see phab:T181344 Galobtter (pingó mió) 02:34, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Hi, so I noticed today in the mobile version that infobox country appears before the lede paragraph. This was not the case before. It was firstly the lede paragraph then the infobox of the country. e.g Yemen, Algeria.--SharabSalam (talk) 02:57, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

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    I can't get the xtools.wmflabs.org "Edit count" tool to work, either on overall edits by an editor or an editor's edits per page. It just keeps loading and then times out, with the message "Sorry, the requested information took too long to process (timeout 600 seconds). In order to save resources, the query was automatically killed." Help! Softlavender (talk) 02:31, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    @Softlavender: Everything is in working order on my end. Could you give examples? I'm assuming you were looking up a user with a very high edit count, or a page with a very high revision count. In these cases it is expected to go slow and unfortunately sometimes timeout. That said, the database servers have been performing very well as of late, so you shouldn't see this error very often.
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    Hmm the last change to Top Edits was on May 29, and that was supposed to make it go faster, not slower. I just replied to you above; it seems there's something especially slow about your account + AN/I, and it's not unique to XTools. Use Sigma's tool for now since it doesn't have a time limit. I've changed MediaWiki:Histlegend to link to this tool, too (it was changed to XTools because at the time Sigma's tools were down). — MusikAnimal talk 04:38, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Whatever the case, Top Edits is clearly not working, so it needs to either be fixed or reverted to a version that worked, or it needs to be replaced with Sigma's tool on all WP:PAGEHISTORY pages. Softlavender (talk) 04:52, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    I don't think there were any code changes that caused this. Database queries can be very complex with many factors that could cause them to be slow. It may have been not-slow before, but AN/I has since grown, or perhaps the problem is that a lot of people are using the database servers right now. It's not easy to debug, but queries timing out for a pages like AN/I is really of no surprise. Sigma's tool is struggling too in this case, but as I stated above, MediaWiki:Histlegend has been updated to link to it. — MusikAnimal talk 05:24, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    See [39] and Talk:Dendera zodiac#no traduction possible !? (sorry for my english). --Doug Weller talk 12:25, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

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    OK, what's with the 'Gender' questionaire, popping up? GoodDay (talk) 18:18, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)/Archive 62#Notification of upcoming editor survey has some info. Eman235/talk 18:26, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    currently it is set to 80%(?) of the page width, though it could be helpful in many cases if it were allowed to be set to be 100% the page width.viz ✦ 05:48, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Which message box? The parameter |style = width:100%; margin:0; should do it when the base templates are called directly. Other templates may not pass on style. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:09, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    The responsive content gadget does this for all amboxes when the page is narrower than 800px. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 18:39, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Hi,

    I'm looking for the external tool which allows (even to non-admins) to display the list of a user's "deleted edits" (actually, I think it was the list of deleted pages they created or edited). IIRC it looked like [40] (which provides a "deleted edit" links that redirects to Special:DeletedContributions, which can be used only by admins).

    Thanks. Apokrif (talk) 00:56, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    @Apokrif: Perhaps you're referring to the Pages Created tool? E.g. see your deleted mainspace pages — MusikAnimal talk 02:12, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Hello all,

    Currently and since Wikipedia articles and Wikidata items have been connected, the link “Wikidata item” appears on the menu column, in the section “Tools”.

    However, many editors from various projects told us that it would make more sense to have the link in the “In other projects” section, since Wikidata is one of the Wikimedia projects and the Wikidata item link doesn’t really belong to the list of special pages. @@ -2184,26 +2184,26 @@ BAG members are expected to be active on Wikipedia to have their finger on the p

    If you want to know more about the previous discussions or mention a bug or an issue, please add a comment to the related Phabricator task. If you want to reply to me onwiki, please ping me so I don’t miss your message.

    Thanks for your understanding, Lea Lacroix (WMDE) (talk) 09:48, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

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    In an archived Teahouse question, this was asked. I didn't tell the person to come here because of problematic editing. But it might be useful to answer the question if someone is wondering.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 18:02, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    It is probably User:Danski454/stubsearch.--Snaevar (talk) 17:09, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Hello everyone, I'm from ckbwiki. Why Wikipedia (the mostest vistors and editors site) hasn't Dark mode feature yet?! Please try to add that feature. Some of editors edit Wikipedia at night. Our eyes are tired from white screen at night and changed to red soon. Please try to add it! Thanks! ⇒ AramTalk 18:28, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    There's ongoing work on that: phab:project/profile/4006. – Ammarpad (talk) 19:15, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    BrandonXLF's Inverter script is a useful tool in the interim. Yunshui 雲水 19:18, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Ammarpad, That is good news! I'm waiting... and Yunshui, thank you for putting that tool! ⇒ AramTalk 21:07, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Tool to rollback an edit that sinebot signed?[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    Basically the header. Very very often I revert vandalism or otherwise unconstructive edits to talk pages, but I can't use the rollback or undo buttons because sinebot already signed it, so now I have to revert two edits by two different users. Is there any tool or javascript or something that would let me revert such a pair of edits as easily as using rollback? Someguy1221 (talk) 07:48, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    @Someguy1221: Twinkle's rollback knows about sinebot. If you ask it to rollback the sinebot edit, it will ask you whether you want to rollback the previous edit as well. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:57, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    {{R slang}} will tag redirects from slangs. Monniasza talk 09:00, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    We have {{R from alternative name}}. I'm not sure slang is well-defined enough when there are many varieties of English. Anyway, this is not a technical issue. It could be suggested at Wikipedia talk:Template messages/Redirect pages or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Redirect. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:25, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    @Monniasza: I redirected it to {{r from synonym}}. You can start tagging pages with it, and if we ever want to distinguish slang from other kinds of synonyms, the pages won't have to be resorted. Wug·a·po·des​ 08:19, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    I just noticed that User:GregU/dashes.js (User talk:GregU/dashes.js) is changing the blue linked time zone UTC−08:00 (see Lumby, British Columbia) to the red linked UTC– 08:00 (see here). It seems that Template:U:GregU hasen't edited since 2012. It needs to get fixed. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 11:32, 9 August 2019 (UTC) Oh, GregU CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 11:34, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

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    @CambridgeBayWeather: yes, castrate this being, please. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 12:14, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Or wait, was it really User:GregU/dashes.js at fault? The edit summary has two script links, the second is one WP:MOSNUMscript. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 12:08, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    The second of my links to the 2015 edit only has the one script. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 12:32, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Hi, rcats don't provide afromentioned maitenance category. Please make rcats use category if target is different than correct form. Monniasza talk 07:01, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    That category doesn't exist. Nor does the name actually match the use you propose for it (not all redirects are "target different from correct name"). Also, what use would there be to a category containing every redirect? You could as well use Special:ListRedirects. Anomie⚔ 14:25, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Hi, can somene link https://sq.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_penguara and A Girl in Exile, I think there's a page in German also... Thanks GrahamHardy (talk) 23:04, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

     Done – Thjarkur (talk) 23:11, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    @@ -2225,7 +2225,7 @@ Oh, GregU https://sq.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dosja_H needs linking to The File on H. Thanks GrahamHardy (talk) 00:00, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    @GrahamHardy: you can do these yourself, on the left side panel there is a section called "languages", click the little pencil icon in there and you can add interwiki links. — xaosflux Talk 00:36, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    For some reason, the picture of Keith Whitley is not displaying under the "personal life"section of Lorrie Morgan. Purging the cache hasn't helped. Any idea what's causing this? All other pictures are showing up, just not that one. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 23:45, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

     Works for me @TenPoundHammer: are you still having this issue? — xaosflux Talk 00:37, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)] @@ -2233,11 +2233,11 @@ above now done, but @TenPoundHammer: how about now? — xaosflux Talk 01:29, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    And if not, can you try looking with a different browser - in case you somehow are applying something like an ad-block to it? — xaosflux Talk 01:30, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    It seems to be working now. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 02:00, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Quick check: Is unified login broken - at least for Commons - for anyone else? I'm logged in here but not logged into Commons; I didn't even know that this was possible anymore. ElKevbo (talk) 02:46, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

     Works for me @ElKevbo: try logging out, deleting all your wmf cookies, and logging in again. — xaosflux Talk 04:49, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    I'm trying to upload image to WikiCommons and getting message that I am not a confirmed user. I never got this message before. How can I get confirmed? Adienes (talk) 15:54, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    @Adienes: try to follow this link directly: commons:Special:UploadWizard. — xaosflux Talk 17:41, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    You can check that at commons:Special:ListGroupRights, look for (upload). — xaosflux Talk 04:51, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    What's changed?Doug Weller talk 12:33, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Working normally for me? Roxy, the dog. wooF 16:05, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    @@ -2255,7 +2255,7 @@ above now done, but That said, colors are still loading for me, as with Roxy. --Izno (talk) 17:21, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Oh, I see what happened. The refresh changes indicator got wrapped up into the Active Filters 'show/hide' box. I might have to request that one be reverted (did so--see phab:T230220)... So, it looks like I'm all good. --Izno (talk) 17:22, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    @Izno: Thanks. I had to go to mediawiki to figure it all out but it's fixed now. Doug Weller talk 09:45, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    EN page jump 1
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    Hi, Every time I paste an image in between walls of text the page jumps down or if I paste text and press enter the page will then jump down, @@ -2265,7 +2265,7 @@ above now done, but What skin/browser/operating system do you use? I have seen a similar problem on mobile Firefox for Android, but not on desktop Firefox or Chrome. --Izno (talk) 14:20, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Hi Izno, I'm on Windows 7 and am using Vector, Ah okay, I've used Mobile to edit but never pasted with it, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 16:44, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Seems that {{NUMBEROF|ARTICLES|total|N}} gives different results for the "Total Number of Articles" in different, but related, Wikipedias? - Example is the "Total Number of Articles" [at 14:04, August 10, 2019 (UTC)] is "50,810,571" (in the English Wikipedia => https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan/STATS) and "48,645,009" (in the Simple English Wikipedia => https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan/STATS) - seems the two should match up, but don't for some reason? - in any case - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 14:28, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    @Drbogdan: the "English Wikipedia" is just as different from the "Simple English Wikipedia" as it is from the "French Wikipedia" - their statistics are project-specific. — xaosflux Talk 14:34, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)] @@ -2276,24 +2276,24 @@ above now done, but Thanks. I don't work at simple but simple:Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:NUMBEROF/data shows mainspace uses so I assume they will appreciate it. Template:NUMBEROF/data (Q10452819) shows a version at many wikis but I don't know where the bot is wanted (apart from Estonian). Some are already updated by the bot, some have no mainspace uses, and some may have hard bot policies. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:21, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    @Ace111: and others - FWIW - Thank you *very much* for your comments - and efforts/updates and all - they're all *greatly* appreciated - I have no objection whatsoever re regular daily updates of the Simple English Wikipedia (or related) in the future - Thanks again - and - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 17:27, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

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    I was about to remove the ε in parentheses in the caption of the axial tilt illustration at Arctic Circle (direct MediaViewer link) before I opened the full SVG image directly. It appears that "ε" in text on the illustration is lost completely and "90 - ε" renders as "90?". Is this happening for anyone else? Daß Wölf 07:11, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    @Daß Wölf: all ways of accessing the image show the ε correctly for me. The difference is likely to be caused by how the glyph is specified in the SVG; if it's by giving font details, you may not have the font on your system (I'm using MacOS). Depending on how the SVG file is created, there are different ways of specifying how characters should be saved. Peter coxhead (talk) 07:45, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Oddly enough, I just rechecked the picture and it renders fine for me too now. I wish I had screenshotted the error. I suppose this was a temporary bug. Daß Wölf 07:48, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    @Daß Wölf: is the problem gone after commons:File:Axial_tilt_vs_tropical_and_polar_circles.svg #filehistory? Incnis Mrsi (talk) 08:40, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Yes, it seems so, but it was actually gone before that revision. I refreshed the page when I got Peter coxhead's ping at ~7:45 and it rendered correctly all on its own. Daß Wölf 00:02, 11 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    I used to be able to hide the active filters navigation since I have no need for it. The problem now is that it's also hiding the live updates button when I click "hide." Amaury • 14:25, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    I've been experiencing the same problem in my watchlist since roughly 8 August. I'm using the Vector skin in Firefox 68.0.1 on a Windows 10 (1903) desktop. I've tried running the watchlist in safemode, but it makes no difference. —Bruce1eetalk 15:10, 11 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    I mentioned this in the thread just above since I wasn't sure if the problem above and mine were related. Go subscribe to the task on Phabricator if desired. --Izno (talk) 16:25, 11 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Yes, that's it. Thanks. Sorry, I should have seen that the above discussion was about the same problem. —Bruce1eetalk 17:07, 11 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    My userpage is currently linked to Wikipédia:Userbox/Reunificação da Irlandas on the Portuguese Wikipedia although that is not a userpage and I did not link it myself. I cannot find the link to edit interlanguage links on my userpage so I was wondering if anyone here knows how to remove the link or if they could direct me to the right process? I have not created a userpage in any other language as I do not have the expertise to do so without a professional translator. My only other userpages across Wikimedia are on Commons and Wiktionary and they are both in English. I have tried asking User:Cuchullain, who is an admin, but they cannot work it out and they advised me to try leaving a note here. Tk420 (talk) 19:25, 11 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Fixed, was outside of the <noinclude> in {{User Northern Ireland (self determination)}} – Thjarkur (talk) 19:30, 11 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    If I search for say 'Airport' in the above, I'm taking to an empty result page. I'd expect it to find Wikipedia:WikiProject Airports/Article alerts, giving it's in Category:All Wikipedia article alert reports. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 13:30, 11 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

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    When editing in wikitext mode, is there a way to set the height of the edit window? Default seems to be 26 lines, and I almost always want about double that, especially when editing long articles or tables. I suppose there is a JS or CSS variable that can be adjusted somewhere? Also, this setting should be added to Special:Preferences, under the Editing tab, Editor section, to help non-technical users. — JFG talk 07:57, 12 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    This will double the viewport:
    @@ -2333,7 +2333,7 @@ above now done, but Right: I was always losing time to drag that edit window bigger before I could work. Thanks for the pointers to relevant phab tickets. — JFG talk 12:32, 12 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    This has been covered several times here at VPT, see for example Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 153#Edit box size, Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 169#Hard to scroll down in lower right corner of edit window, and it's also buried in Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 171#Separate buttons for single and double bracket links in the editing toolbar (my reply of 23:48, 15 November 2018). There are other related threads in the archives. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:51, 12 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Mmmhh… If that's a perennial question here at VPT, perhaps the idea of re-instating a visible user setting might be answering some latent demand. First phab ticket was about columns, and that's probably not necessary given adaptive width, but in the second ticket the setting for rows was apparently discarded in one lump with the columns. Shall ww re-instate the rows setting? — JFG talk 21:30, 12 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Many or most of the blocks I perform are for spam-only accounts, especially those whose only edits are placing spam on their userpage. Just in case someone wants to apologise and become productive, I leave the talk page open when I do a {{uw-spamblock}}, unless the talk page itself has been used for spamming. On one hand, I don't want to shut down access without evidence of abuse, but on the other hand, it's possible that the talk page would be used abusively. My interest, therefore, is finding an automated way (i.e. without human edits or bot edits) to detect a post-block addition of an external link, the results of which could be evaluated as spam or not-spam by a human. I'm envisioning the following criteria:

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    See discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 August 22#Fernando Zor????; there's something weird going on with this redirect and it seems a bit beyond the scope of RfD. Any ideas? PC78 (talk) 01:27, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

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    Before I go to Phabricator, may be someone experienced a similar problem or at least known on which side the problem is. I usually work on laptop, and there I am logged in all the time (I choose the option to log in for 180 days). On my Ipad, I used to be logged on all the time as well. Sometimes it behaved strangely: For example, a year ago I found myself in a situation when I was logged in the English Wikipedia but was not logged in for example on Commons; then I logged in to Commons as well and all was fine. A week ago, my Ipad installed an automatic update which presumably included a new version of Safari. I found myself logged out. I tried to log in and found that I can log in just into one project, but if I then open a new window with any Wikimedia project, I am not logged in. I can login there as well, but then the next window is not logged in and so on. Moreover, if I am logged in say to the English Wikipedia I can work all right (well, making sure I never backtrack to the login screen). However, after two days, I find myself not logged in. Every time I log in I tick the "180 days" option. I would appreciate any comments. Thanks.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:17, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    @Ymblanter: what version of your browser are you using? It sounds like you are having a cookie handling problem with your browser. Try clearing all cookies from your browser and trying again. — xaosflux Talk 13:29, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    diff --git a/tests/cases/for-parser-cache/for-parser-cache-formattedreply.html b/tests/cases/for-parser-cache/for-parser-cache-formattedreply.html index a0a4b385f..15cac6590 100644 --- a/tests/cases/for-parser-cache/for-parser-cache-formattedreply.html +++ b/tests/cases/for-parser-cache/for-parser-cache-formattedreply.html @@ -5,6 +5,6 @@
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    Test. Matma Rex (talk) 19:24, 24 February 2021 (UTC)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    diff --git a/tests/cases/fr-unsigned-oldparser/fr-unsigned-oldparser-formattedreply.html b/tests/cases/fr-unsigned-oldparser/fr-unsigned-oldparser-formattedreply.html index 04e7d4e63..a6eca78b0 100644 --- a/tests/cases/fr-unsigned-oldparser/fr-unsigned-oldparser-formattedreply.html +++ b/tests/cases/fr-unsigned-oldparser/fr-unsigned-oldparser-formattedreply.html @@ -53,7 +53,7 @@ -

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    Bonjour, j'ai mis a jour l'introduction de l'article pour tenir compte de la mort de Pierre Berge. Ma modification a ete annulee parceque 'Certes, mais pas ses actions'. Voici la passage modifife:

    Le journal est édité par le groupe Le Monde, détenu depuis 2010 à 64 % par la société Le Monde libre, elle-même contrôlée par les hommes d'affaires Xavier Niel, Pierre Bergé et Matthieu Pigasse.

    C'est un fait que Pierre Berge etant mort, il n'a aucun controle sur Le Monde libre et sur rien du tout. Ses actions passees peuvent inclurent d'avoir eu un controle sur cette societe, de l'avoir creee ou d'y avoir juste participe. Mais dire qu'il a un controle dessus et conjuguer ca au present est factuellement faux et doit etre enleve ou modifie pour etre adapte a la realite. @@ -62,7 +62,7 @@

    Bonjour, j'ai annulé votre modification car si Pierre Bergé est bien mort, les actions qu'il détenait n'ont pas disparu pour autant. Car je parlais évidemment de ses actions au sens de ses titres de propriété. Il ne convient pas de supprimer Bergé des actionnaires, car cela laisserait croire que Niel et Pigasse sont seuls à détenir le journal via Le Monde libre, ce qui n'est pas le cas. J'ai remplacé par "les héritiers de Pierre Bergé". A suivre en fonction de ce que ceux-ci feront des actions du journal. --Chicraz (discuter) 9 octobre 2017 à 17:16 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Merci d'avoir tenu compte de ma remarque. Il semble que les parts de Le Monde Libre Holding anciennement detenues Pierre Berge ne soient pas detenues par les heritiers de Pierre Berge (son mari Madison Cox ?), mais par Niel et Pigasse: http://www.huffingtonpost.fr/2017/09/08/les-parts-de-pierre-berge-dans-le-monde-seront-reprises-par-le-duo-xavier-niel-et-matthieu-pigasse_a_23201838/ — Le message qui précède, non signé, a été déposé par l'IP 2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542 (discuter), le 9 octobre 2017 à 21:11 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    L'article a été mis à jour de cette information. Bonne journée --Chicraz (discuter) 10 octobre 2017 à 10:04 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Cette partie est vraiment particulière… Autant la phase "historico-contextuelle" est défendable, autant la partie sur Sarkozy, les positions hostiles etc… ne l'est pas. Il y a débat. Je pense que l'on devrait, par soucis de neutralité ne pas en parler. Je la supprime donc et laisse une archive ici au cas où quelqu'un voudrait la rajouter avec un argumentaire solide.

    "En 2007, à l'approche des élections présidentielles, dans un éditorial daté du 3 mai, le directeur de la publication Jean-Marie Colombani lance un appel à voter pour la candidate socialiste Ségolène Royal. La principale raison invoquée est la situation désastreuse dans laquelle le Parti socialiste se trouverait en cas d'échec[réf. nécessaire]. La « conception revancharde de l'histoire » du candidat UMP, Nicolas Sarkozy, vainqueur de l'élection, est également dénoncée. Depuis, le journal adopta fréquemment des positions hostiles à la politique du président Sarkozy et de son gouvernement[réf. nécessaire]."

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    La description rubrique par rubrique date un peu (2 ans je pense), elle est à revoir


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    Reporté de Discussion sur entrée Wikipedia "Edgar Morin" :
    (...) l'affaire de diffamation raciale [condamnation du Monde et d'Edgar Morin sur le même fondement, au même titre, dans les mêmes termes] devrait être reportée sous une entrée à créer pour l'EUMC : — Car :
    1) Cette affaire "diffamation raciale" est manifestement (mais cela n'a pas encore été reconnu dans la presse, il s'agit là d'un propos de juriste) la première convergente (et je ne dis pas "application", je dis "convergente") avec la définition officielle (encore en travaux, mais cela importe peu du point de vue juridique de "convergence") de l'antisémitisme par l'EUMC ;
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    Arrêt de la Cour d'appel de Versailles 26 mai 2005

    L'arrêt de condamnation d'Edgar Morin et Société éditrice du quotidien Le Monde, rendu le 26 mai 2005 par la Cour d'appel de Versailles, pour diffamation raciale en matière d'antisémitisme, est disponible aux adresses:

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    Si un article du Monde en ligne dit par exemple: Le Monde, 29 octobre 2002, et en bas: article paru dans l'édition du 30 octobre 2002, laquelle des deux dates faut-il citer comme deate de l'article ? Apokrif 4 août 2006 à 19:49 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    La seconde. D'une manière générale, toutes les éditions (papier ou électronique) du Monde paraissent la veille de leur date d'édition (sic). Mhon | (discuter) 7 août 2006 à 15:53 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Bonjour. Suite à une très récente contribution « vandale » d'une IP repositionnant ce journal de centre gauche à droite sur l'échiquier politique, j'ai cherché à savoir d'où venait ce positionnement initial. C'est Spedona qui avait introduit cela il y a maintenant presque 2 ans. Sans source. Je sais que c'est une idée assez répandue, mais il y a-t-il une revendication quelconque du journal sur ce point ? Ou alors une source digne de confiance ? Mhon | (discuter) 14 août 2006 à 12:03 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    @@ -171,7 +171,7 @@ c'est Philippe Labarde qui a ete directeur apres Bruno Frappat.

    >> Il vous semble, mais vous ne connaissez rien à la vie du Monde, vous êtes derrière votre bureau. Renseignez-vous, passez-y, au Monde, poser des questions, et puis, lisez le avant qu'il ne disparaisse, comme les autres médias papier. Ah, et puis, j'oubliais, votre ami Péan vient de publier un bouquin cire-pompes sur Chirac. Après Mitterrand. La voilà la raison d'état, le respect du père. C'est entre autre chose ce qui est reproché au Monde. Le non respect du père. Mais Beuve-Méry lui même avait un rapport complexe et critique avec De Gaulle.

    >> "Il me semble" ... Il admet qu'il n'est pas sûr, ça ne sert à rien de l'aggresser !

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    J'ai viré plusieurs paragraphes qui contenaient du bavardage orienté (en faveur du Monde) et sans sources. David.Monniaux 1 février 2007 à 10:43 (CET) >>>> Commentaire : cela ne m'étonne pas, vous préférez laisser les assertions orientées contre Le Monde. Péan l'aboyeur mercenaire payé par les défenseurs du secret d'Etat... Vous serez le premier à regretter Le Monde quand il disparaitra.[(discussiontools-replylink)]

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    Il n'y a rien à tirer de cette notice, qui est ni faite ni à faire. J'entends déjà la rengaine : "Qu'à cela ne tienne, prend ton clavier à deux mains, mon coco, et fais profiter de ta suffisance et de ton savoir sûrement immense la collectivité". Eh bien non : que ladite collectivité se contente de l'écume de l'histoire et que, si le sujet l'intéresse, elle se rende dans n'importe quelle bibliothèque pour lire un des livres - ô certes aucun n'est parfait, loin s'en faut, mais à mille pieds au-dessus de la médiocrité vaguement polémique de cette article... - cité en bibliographie. max (passablement énervé de voir la notice, écrite en mauvais français, embrayer tout de suite sur Colombani... Hum, y'a rien eu avant ???)

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    Je me souviens d'un article "Madame Wiki Wiki" :

    • se moquant de Wikipedia et de la presidente de la Wikimedia Fondation ;
      • @@ -196,7 +196,7 @@ max (passablement énervé de voir la notice, écrite en mauvais français, embr 

      Le Monde : histoire d'une entreprise de presse, 1944-1995.
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      Utilisateur:Ahbon? persiste à mettre la polémique entourant le recit du voyage de BHL en Ossétie ds une rubrique plus large des polémique du Monde et entre dans un conflit d'éditions potentiel. C'est a mon avis tout a fait inapproprié dans le sens où les « Témoignages » ou « Opinions » publiés dans le Monde n'engagent que leurs auteurs pas le journal. Et la réponse du médiateur du Monde (que je n'ai pas lue) ne justifie en rien d'impliquer Le Monde dans les raccourcis et prises de positions de BHL. Cette partie doit etre supprimée de cette page, ama, et a toute sa place sur la page de BHL.--LPLT [discu] 2 septembre 2008 à 13:36 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

      D'une part, Le Monde est responsable de qui il invite. Un journal prestigieux accrédite les propos qui sont tenus à l'intérieur, même s'ils ne sont "que" des témoignages. En outre, la publication par Le Monde de ce témoignage a fait boule de neige, le quotidien de référence français ayant été imité par la presse internationale, posant de sérieuses questions au niveau de la crédibilité de l'information en général - débat auquel Le Monde, de par son statut, ne peut échapper.
      @@ -220,11 +220,11 @@ max (passablement énervé de voir la notice, écrite en mauvais français, embr Pour information, les wikipompiers sont des volontaires et ne sont pas soumis à une obligation de résultat. Merci du respect que vous leur porterez.

      Les intervenants sont invités à débatter sur la page de médiation. Cchantep (d) 3 septembre 2008 à 18:46 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

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      La partie icones récemment ajoutée m'a tout l'air d'un beau WP:TI non sourcé. Donc en l'absence d'ajout rapide de publications soutenant et vérifiant les dires de ce chapitre, je le supprimerai sous peu.--LPLT [discu] 22 mars 2009 à 19:08 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

      Aucune réaction en 7j, aucun sourcage ---> suppression de ce TI --LPLT [discu] 30 mars 2009 à 17:40 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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      Le même auteur (Despointes (d · c · b)) s'était également fendu d'un beau WP:TI non sourcé sur le positionnement politique du Monde. Sans références apportées rapidement, ce chapitre sera revu en profondeur.--LPLT [discu] 2 avril 2009 à 09:55 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

      Page semi-protégée ce jour. J'ai pris contact avec l'initiateur de l'appel (qui est dans la même université que moi) afin de lui expliquer en quoi son invitation à modifier l'article était vouée à l'échec car ne correspondant pas aux règles de Wikipédia. J'espère pouvoir rapidement lever la semi-protection. -- Bokken | 木刀 3 avril 2009 à 11:11 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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      --Gegejv (d) 3 avril 2009 à 22:10 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

      En tout état de cause, cette affirmation doit être attribuée et sourcée. Mogador ✉ 4 avril 2009 à 14:14 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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      Qui considère ce journal comme le quotidien de référence ? --pixeltoo (discuter) 22 avril 2009 à 13:05 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

      c'est le journal de référence français à l'étranger, c'est pas pour rien que Wikileaks a donné l'exclu au Monde.... Plus sérieusement, il y a el Pais, le corriere della serra, le guardian et le Monde pour la France.... C'est aussi le plus lu. Je pense donc que pour tout le monde c'est le journal de référence d'autant plus qu'il ne s'adresse pas à un courant politique en particulier (à l'inverse de la plupart des autres quotidiens)
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      Le Monde des livres (supplément)

      Le supplément littéraire n'est disponible qu'en France métropolitaine depuis le 12 novembre 2009.
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      Bonjour,

      Cette liste a-t-elle un réel apport encyclopédique en tant que liste ? Parce que je ne suis pas convaincu qu'individuellement, chacun des journalistes mentionnés satisfasse WP:CAA.

      Amicalement — Arkanosis ✉ 2 janvier 2010 à 13:01 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)] @@ -250,7 +250,7 @@ max (passablement énervé de voir la notice, écrite en mauvais français, embr

      Je suis d'accord avec Bokken. La liste des anciens journalistes ne me paraît pas pertinente non plus. Elle n'apporte pas de compréhension à ce qu'est le journal. --Alastair (d) 26 février 2011 à 15:23 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
      Je ne suis pas un gros contributeur sur cette page, mais AMHA cette liste fait tâche. À transférer sur une page dédiée, avec comme objectif de lister pour chaque journaliste des dates de début et fin de carrière au Monde et les rubriques tenues ? Azoée (d) 28 février 2011 à 10:33 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
      Cette tache est je pense impossible... Il faudrait à la limite une liste des chefs de rubrique actualisée régulièrement (parce que dans la presse, il y a du turn over).... Et je pense qu'une liste des célèbres anciens du Monde serait plus pertinent
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      J'ai cru bon de mettre à jour l'infobox suite au récent rachat du Monde par le trio Bergé-Pigasse-Niel. Ai-je bien fait ? Que devient La Vie-Le Monde dans tout ça ? DocteurCosmos (d) 7 juillet 2010 à 16:56 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

      Est-ce entériné d'un point de vue légal ? Je pense que tout cela n'en est encore qu'au stade des dossiers--LPLT [discu] 7 juillet 2010 à 16:58 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)] @@ -261,7 +261,7 @@ max (passablement énervé de voir la notice, écrite en mauvais français, embr

      --Polofrfr (d) 16 décembre 2010 à 22:56 (CET) >> En mentionnant cette recapitalisation, qui sont les nouveaux propriétaires . Au lecteur de se faire son opinion sur l'indépendance du journal[(discussiontools-replylink)]

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      Juste pour signaler des incohérences au niveau des chiffres : dans cet article on a un tableau de 1999 à 2009, de 1999 à 2005 il correspond à un autre tableau dans l'article http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presse_en_France, mais à partir de 2006 grosse divergence : on passe de 350 039 à 316 851 ou 358 655 c'est selon, là où ça devient ridicule c'est qu'en suivant la source indiquée par un des tableaux (http://www.ojd.com/adherent/3147) apparemment ça serait 354 316.

      Ou alors il y a des confusions entre les diffusions (payée/france payée) auquel cas il faudrait peut-être se décider pour savoir lequel doit être retenu. @@ -269,17 +269,17 @@ dans cet article on a un tableau de 1999 à 2009, de 1999 à 2005 il correspond

      Ça veut dire quoi France payée et payée, la légende ne l’indique pas ? Azoée (d) 7 avril 2011 à 20:56 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
      y a (tjrs eu) un certains nombre d'ex. gratuits, suffisant pour que l'OJD distingue entre diffusion payée ou non--Bibliorock (d) 8 avril 2011 à 17:52 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
      Et la colonne "payée", c'est la diffusion gratuite ? ?? Azoée (d) 9 avril 2011 à 11:46 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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      Quelle ne fut pas ma surprise lorsque j'ai vue que Hervé Morin fait partie des journalistes actuel du journal Le Monde, j'aurais aimé avoir confirmation de cette information, de mon coté j'ai cherché, et je n'ai rien trouvé ... Donc si personne à de réponse, il faudrais l'enlever de la liste.

      Bonjour,
      En fait, ce n'est pas le même Hervé Morin : [2]. Cdlt, — Jules [Discuter] 11 mars 2012 à 10:51 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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      Khmers rouges[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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      Le Monde n'a sûrement pas titré « Phnom Penh libérée » le 17 avril 1975. On peut voir l'emission de ce jour ici: http://www.fonjallaz.net/Communisme/Cambodge/GC-ONU/17-avril-1975.html - et les titres des articles sont beaucoup plus neutres. Même si quelques-uns des auteurs ont écrit dans un ton très positive du mouvement des Khmers rouges et de leur « révolution », ce formulation rend surtout une fausse image du journal à cette époque. Donc je vais l'écarter. Veuillez excuser mon français, je suis allemand ;) 18 novembre 2012 à 02:14 (CET)

      D'accord, la date est erronée, mais je l'ai vu, Le Monde a bien titré « Phnom Penh libérée » en avril, mais peut-être pas le 17. Pcouderc (discuter) 16 mai 2014 à 23:30 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

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      Il n'y a pas de règles noir sur blanc en la matière, mais il est assez évident que les listes à puce, et autres chronologies ne répondent pas aux standards encyclopédiques, et sont relativement déconseillées sur WP (faut que je retrouve l'indication précise). Les articles labellisés (AdQ et BA) n'en n'ont pas, car le contenu se doit d'être rédigé (phrase), organisé, synthétisé (séparation de l'anecdotique de l'essentiel), toute chose qui répond plus d'un travail encyclopédique. D'où l'incitation vers un recyclage de cette section chronologie.-- LPLT [discu] 3 mars 2013 à 22:02 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

      D'où le Modèle:À délister.-- LPLT [discu] 3 mars 2013 à 22:07 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)] @@ -289,12 +289,12 @@ dans cet article on a un tableau de 1999 à 2009, de 1999 à 2005 il correspond
      Certainement pas : faire des phrases (qui je le rappelle = sujet + verbe + complément) et contextualiser est un impératif encyclopédique évident. Quant à comparer cela avec une page sur des dates... il n'y a aucune pertinence dans le parallèle. Les pages/section historiques des articles labellisés ne sont pas une « infâme bouillie » ; drôle de perspective et de vision encyclopédique.-- LPLT [discu] 4 mars 2013 à 17:38 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Bonsoir à tous, je me lance dans la réécriture de ladite liste à puce. N'hésitez pas à donner un coup de main, notamment pour la recontextualisation. --Quadrige (d) 28 mars 2013 à 00:28 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

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    Bonjour,

    Ne pourrait-on pas deplacer ces deux listes (nouveaux[Quand ?] et anciens), qui n'ont pas d'interret dans cet article et le surcharge inutilement, vers un nouvel article Liste des jourrnalistes du Monde qui d'ailleurs pourrait etre l'{{article principal}} de Catégorie:Journaliste du Monde. Je pourrais le faire si vous voulez. Bonne journée. CaptainHaddock BlaBla 28 mars 2013 à 10:28 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Très bonne idée. Je le fais maintenant, ça allégera l'article. --Quadrige (d) 28 mars 2013 à 11:14 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Explication à la suite de 3RR à propos de l'intro[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    S'agissant de la référence apportée. Premièrement elle n'est pas nouvelle, elle apparaît déjà dans l'article, un doublon a été effectué. Deuxièmement, je réitère mon argument, on ne peut pas se baser sur un document émanant du journal pour certifier qu'il la respecte, ça n'est pas une source convenable. Je pense qu'il y a de nombreuses sources sérieuses tierces pertinentes mais ne sait pas franchement moi-même laquelle est adéquate, voilà qui explique ma modification. @@ -315,7 +315,7 @@ J'espère que le bandeau disparaîtra vite en tout cas car il ne me semble pas q

    L'affaire soulevée par Charlie-Hebdo sur la déclaration de patrimoine de Manuel Valls justifie, à mon sens, la suppression de la phrase bateau sur le recoupement ( et non « la recoupe ») des sources.

    Dans cet article de 2013, Le Monde reprend les informations publiées par les ministres sur leur patrimoine, avec des petits commentaires... alors qu'une simple visite au cadastre a permis à Charlie-Hebdo d'émettre de sérieux doutes sur l'honnêteté du ministre (cela croisé avec un simple calcul sur ses revenus : 7000 € de revenu mensuel pendant dix ans = 840 000 €, et il rembourse encore un emprunt pour son appartement à 315 000 €). Bref, il y avait deux moyens simples de mettre en doute cette information, et Le Monde ne l'a pas fait. azoée ¿∞? 13 octobre 2014 à 12:11 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

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    Cet article est déséquilibré. Il parle principalement des polémiques du "Monde" des années 2000, alors qu'à cette époque, Le Monde est déjà presque mort, tandis que son heure de gloire est la IVeme République et les débuts de la Veme, du temps d'Hubert Beuve-Méry, et cette époque est expédiée dans l'article.

    Succession de polémiques En effet, cet article est globalement Excessivement critique et donne l'impression d'une succession de polémiques entourant le journal. @@ -324,12 +324,12 @@ Le fait qu'une poignée de journalistes soient en désaccord avec leur directeur --2A01:E35:8AE2:3E10:40F5:EB62:596A:89DB (discuter) 11 janvier 2015 à 11:32 (CET)A.C.[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    On attend une réaction similaire sur la PdD de l'article du Figaro. Celette (discuter) 12 janvier 2015 à 21:47 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    @ Notron : Histoire National Geographic devenant Histoire & Civilisations n'est pas édité par Le MOnde, lequel ne fait que présenter la chose, comme pour les 30 volumes parus entre janvier et août. La maîtrise éditoriale est et a toujours été assurée par la filiale française du groupe RBA (ca), basé à Barcelone, avec de simples partenariats avec National Geographic et Le MOnde. Hégésippe (discuter) [opérateur] 25 septembre 2014 à 08:08 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Il n'est pas incongrus d'y faire référence sur la page consacrée au Monde, quand le magazine s'appel Le Monde National Geographic Histoire & Civilisations il conserve le partenariat de National Geographic et s'ajoute le partenariat du Monde. C'est coédité sous forme de partenariat entre Le Monde et National Geographic c'est réalisé par les équipes RBA France (basée à Paris, 105, avenue Raymond Poincaré), filiale française de Groupe RBA (es) dont la maison mère est à Barcelone. Le Monde à créé une rubrique Histoire & Civilisations sur son site.--Notron (discuter) 2 octobre 2014 à 01:05 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    +1 avec Notron (d · c · b) : la présentation assume complètement une responsabilité éditoriale (« Une collection " Le Monde " », « ce volume de notre collection », etc.). Cela dit,si ces infos encombrent trop cet article, il est possible de créer un article Groupe Le Monde ou Éditions Le Monde. azoée ¿∞? 2 octobre 2014 à 09:32 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Fusion entre Le Monde et Le Monde interactif[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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    Discussion transférée depuis Wikipédia:Pages à fusionner
    Idem que pour la section précédente, et dans la lignée de Discussion:L'Équipe interactif/Suppression ; d’autant que Le Monde.fr redirige vers… Le Monde.

    Une redirection vers Le Monde#Le Monde.fr me semblerait plus pertinente. @@ -342,7 +342,7 @@ Idem que pour la section précédente, et dans la lignée de Pour, le deuxième est un article très confus, la séparation rajoute de la confusion. --Nouill 11 avril 2016 à 06:00 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

  • Pour la redirection. L'amateur d'aéroplanes (discuter) 14 avril 2016 à 08:30 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    • Fait, presque rien à transférer. --Nouill 17 avril 2016 à 08:58 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Bonjour aux contributeurs,

    Je viens de modifier 1 lien(s) externe(s) sur Le Monde. Prenez le temps de vérifier ma modification. Si vous avez des questions, ou que vous voulez que le bot ignore le lien ou la page complète, lisez cette FaQ pour de plus amples informations. J'ai fait les changements suivants :

    @@ -361,14 +361,14 @@ N'hésitez pas à apporter votre contribution sur la rédaction de l'anecdote, l Une fois l'anecdote acceptée ou refusée pour publication, la discussion est ensuite archivée là.
    (ceci est un message automatique du bot GhosterBot le 31 août 2019 à 21:45, sans bot flag)

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    @Salsero35 Pourriez vous être plus explicite sur ce qui empêche, d'un coup, que cette citation d'Ariane Chemin [3] issue d'un article de Pierre Péan paru dans le Le Monde Diplomatique figure dans l’article ? J'avoue ne pas comprendre. --J'en passe et des meilleurs (discuter) 19 février 2020 à 18:08 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Bonjour. Une journaliste qui émet un Pov sur son propre journal est une déclaration manquant d'indépendance et constitue une source primaire. Ce type de WP:POV est prohibé sur Wp. Salsero35 ☎ 22 février 2020 à 13:29 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Toute source secondaire travaille à partir de sources primaires. On ne peut donc rejeter une source secondaire (ici le Monde diplomatique, Pierre Péan [4]) au prétexte qu'elle relaie dans une démonstration une source primaire. Mais je comprends la réticence de Salsero35. Pour une information de ce genre, il vaudrait mieux trouver une source secondaire centrée sur le sujet (Le Monde), au cas où, par exemple, il y ait des enquêtes d'initiative menées par ce journal sur d'autres sujets que les « affaires », puisque c'est ce dont parle Pierre Péan. --Baldurar (discuter) 22 février 2020 à 14:56 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Il n’émet pas un POV sur son propre journal (ce qui n'est d'ailleurs plus le cas au moment où il a écrit ces lignes), il rapporte une citation d'Ariane Chemin non contestée par celle-ci à ma connaissance.--J'en passe et des meilleurs (discuter) 24 février 2020 à 09:26 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Idem, une interview dans une source notoire (ici le monde diplo) n’est pas une source primaire. Son propre blog oui. Il faudrait rétablir en attribuant la déclaration et la source, si source contradictoire apparait on avisera mais ce n'est pas le cas. Mais Salsero si tu veux un bon gros TI à base de sources primaires, la partie “Articles et contributions extérieures sur la pédocriminalité”, qui mélange en plus homosexualité et pédophilie (le vieil amalgame), là il va falloir faire un sérieux ménage. Apollofox (discuter) 5 mars 2020 à 22:30 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    La Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation a arrosé Le Monde pendant plusieurs années, comme on peut le voir sur le site de cette fondation. Je suppose que si on le mentionne dans l'article, ce sera réverté parce que provenant d'une source primaire ? Marvoir (discuter) 1 mai 2020 à 15:09 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Bien supposé. Mais bien joué de la part de Marvoir : çà mange pas de pain de signaler ce fait en pdD, vu que ce contributeur estime que tous les grands journaux occidentaux sont à la solde de capitalistes financiers qui dictent la politique éditoriale de ces médias. Une des thématiques favorites des complotistes adeptes des sources alternatives dont leur activité éditoriale est, contrairement aux médias mainstream, dictée… que par le désintérêt et le goût de la vraie Vérité. Le pire, c'est que sa recherche sur ce site… ne concerne pas le journal Le Monde. Conclusion : on cherche … que ce qu'on veut chercher, et on est un POV-pusher justement parce qu'on cherche… que ce qu'on veut trouver. Salsero35 ☎ 1 mai 2020 à 16:18 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)] diff --git a/tests/cases/it-unsigned-oldparser/it-unsigned-oldparser-formattedreply.html b/tests/cases/it-unsigned-oldparser/it-unsigned-oldparser-formattedreply.html index 7d80804ef..20c4c90b8 100644 --- a/tests/cases/it-unsigned-oldparser/it-unsigned-oldparser-formattedreply.html +++ b/tests/cases/it-unsigned-oldparser/it-unsigned-oldparser-formattedreply.html @@ -99,38 +99,38 @@ -

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    Nella mia personale sandbox ho riscritto la biografia di Gino Coletti in quanto la prima era stata cancellata perchè ritenuta copiata. In Discusione ho richiesto un vostro parere. Per favore potete verificare. Vi ringrazio. --Depoggial (msg) 19:25, 6 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Se serve faccio presente che la mia utenza è: depoggial/sandbox
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    Salvare anteprima pagina senza pubblicarla - Componenti standard per macchine/Sandbox[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    Ciao, sto usando per la prima volta Wikipedia e ho creato una pagina aziendale. Ho scritto tutto il contenuto nella pagina di prova, ma prima di pubblicarla vorrei salvarla e inoltrare il link al Manager. Come posso fare? non vedo pulsanti "salva", ma solo "pubblica" grazie mille — Questo commento senza la firma utente è stato inserito da Componenti standard per macchine (discussioni · contributi) 08:33, 13 nov 2020 (CET).[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    [@ Componenti standard per macchine] il pulsante "Pubblica" è proprio quello che va premuto--ValeJappo【〒】 08:36, 13 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Con pubblica verrà salvata, anche se non nell'enciclopedia vera e propria ma nella pagina di prova, sarà comunque a visibile a tutti.
    In Wikipedia non esistono "manager". O intendi il manager dell'azienda in questione? Consiglio lettura di Wikipedia:Autobiografie, Wikipedia:Avvertenze sulla contribuzione su commissione, Aiuto:Nome utente# Nomi utente inappropriati (NUI) (e Aiuto:Firma). --87.9.146.3 (msg) 11:19, 13 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Buongiorno! Sto cercando di cambiare una foto della mia pagina, ma wikipedia non me lo permette perché non abilitato. Cosa devo fare per esserlo?— Questo commento senza la firma utente è stato inserito da Giuliano Caputi (discussioni · contributi) 12:28, 13 nov 2020 (CET).[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Dalle tue modifiche alla pagina a me pare tu sia stato perfettamente in grado di farlo; è stato [@ Ap7189ap] a spostare l'immagine nel parametro apposito del Template {{Bio}}. Puoi regolare le dimensioni anche così.--EnzoEncius 15:45, 14 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Per farlo esiste lo specifico parametro |DimImmagine = .--EnzoEncius 15:46, 14 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Salve, devo inserire nella voce Roccalvecce informazioni che riguardano tale centro abitato, frazione del comune di Vierbo. Vorrei strutturare la pagina come quella dei centri abitati con una finestra laterale con le info riguardanti abitanti, altitudine etcc... ed una finestra cin l'indice. Come devo fare? — Questo commento senza la firma utente è stato inserito da Maurizioneri (discussioni · contributi) 14 nov 2020 (CET).

    In Wikipedia:Modello di voce/Centro abitato trovi alcune informazioni.
    Per il riquadro in alto a destra con le informazioni, vedi Aiuto:Template sinottici e Template:Divisione amministrativa. --87.9.146.3 (msg) 19:32, 14 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Buonasera a tutti, scrivo per chiedere aiuto per creare la pagina in italiano di uno scrittore argentino (https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germán_García)

    Ho cominciato a scrivere una bozza Utente:AstrolabioD/Sandbox seguendo il tour guidato ma non riesco ad andare avanti. Vorrei sapere come farlo prima di continuare a introdurre informazione. Grazie --AstrolabioD (msg) 20:52, 14 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Ciao [@ AstrolabioD], nella tua sandbox puoi lavorare quanto e come vuoi, senza fretta! Puoi dare un'occhiata alle convenzioni di stile relative alle biografie e - in caso di traduzione - puoi utilizzare anche Content translation, che è uno strumento utile per tradurre voci da altre versioni linguistiche di Wikipedia, da utilizzare seguendo quanto indicato su WP:TRADURRE. Detto ciò, ti invito a leggere questa pagina, dove - qualora le spiegazioni non fossero sufficienti - puoi richiedere direttamente un tutor. Per qualsiasi altro chiarimento e/o informazione non esitare a scrivermi cliccando qui. Grazie! --Mtarch11 (msg) 12:35, 15 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Salve, sto tentando di pubblicare una nuova voce su Wikipedia, trattasi di una biografia. Il tasto "sposta" non compare nella mia sandbox nonostate abbia effettuato il login da più di quattro giorni e abbia effettuato le dieci modifiche richieste. Come procedere? Dove sto sbagliando? --Mamasaura (msg) 14:38, 16 nov 2020 (CET) Mamasaura[(discussiontools-replylink)] @@ -144,14 +144,14 @@ Il tasto "sposta" non compare nella mia sandbox nonostate abbia effettuato il lo

    I criteri sono stati modificati a 50 edit e 7 giorni, a partire dal 14 settembre 2020, come si legge in WP:Utenti autoconvalidati. Perciò [@ Mamasaura], non sei ancora autoconvalidato e non puoi effettuare spostamenti. --Agilix (msg) 16:30, 16 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    [@ Postcrosser] Sono cambiati in seguito a questa discussione, [@ Mamasaura] puoi usare il {{Sposta}}, poi qualcuno si occuperà di spostare la voce--Ap7189ap 16:50, 16 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Mi era sfuggito l'aggiornamento dei requisiti, grazie del chiarimento. Resta comunque il mio consiglio a mammasaura di lavorare ancora un po' sulla voce, perchè allo stato attuale rischia di essere cancellata immediatamente se spostata nell'enciclopedia. --Postcrosser (msg) 11:09, 17 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Ho consultato la voce Tunja (città della Colombia) su Wikipedia in italiano e su Wikipedia inglese. Le voci portano informazioni diametralmente opposte, leggere per credere, quale è la verità ?— Questo commento senza la firma utente è stato inserito da 151.33.155.240 (discussioni · contributi) 19:04, 16 nov 2020 (CET).[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Puoi specificare quali sono le informazioni diametralmente opposte? --Postcrosser (msg) 00:36, 17 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    [@ Postcrosser] la voce italiana era stata pesantemente vandalizzata (a settembre). Ho ripristinato la versione precedente. --93.36.167.230 (msg) 07:39, 17 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Grazie 93.36.167.230 per aver risolto il problema e a 151.33.155.240 per aver segnalato la cosa --Postcrosser (msg) 11:08, 17 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Buonasera, volevo soltanto chiedere come bisogna fare per inserire l'avviso sotto la voce che non vengono citate le fonti o quelle presenti sono insufficienti. mi scuso ma sono alle prime armi su questo fantastico sito. Ringrazio in anticipo.— Questo commento senza la firma utente è stato inserito da 87.14.101.127 (discussioni · contributi) 19:12, 16 nov 2020 (CET).[(discussiontools-replylink)] @@ -159,10 +159,10 @@ Ringrazio in anticipo.— Questo commento senza la Ciao, la procedura è abbastanza semplice, all'inizio della voce bisogna aggiungere il template {{F|argomento|mese anno}}, puoi copia-incollarlo e modificare i parametri "argomento" e "mese anno". Per argomento devi inserire ad esempio "biografie" oppure "cinema" ecc., per "mese anno" devi mettere quando hai inserito il template, supponendo questo mese si scriverà "novembre 2020". Per approfondire ti invito a leggere qua. Buon proseguimento.--Balara86 (msg) 08:21, 17 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Grazie per l'informazione!— Questo commento senza la firma utente è stato inserito da 79.31.32.66 (discussioni · contributi) 19:11, 22 nov 2020 (CET).[(discussiontools-replylink)]

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    Stanno migrando le librerie alle nuove ICU... insomma stanno facendo casini come sempre :) (per chi vuole farsi del male leggere Wikipedia:Officina#Update to ICU Unicode library). Il risultato è che salteranno gli ordinamenti di qualche categoria. Se qualcuno domanda ditegli di pazientare e abituarsi. Prima o poi si sogneranno qualcos'altro :)--Pierpao (listening) 19:35, 16 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

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    Ciao a tutti, oggi stavo visualizzando una pagina di wikipedia e, sulla stessa pagina, mi arriva un messaggio che dice che io avrei vandalizzato, o parzialmente rovinato, la pagina di David Dobrik. Questo però non è mai accaduto, infatti io non ho mai visualizzato questa pagina, tantomeno conoscevo la persona in questione. Cosa dovrei fare? Dovrei prendere provvedimenti di qualche tipo? Grazie @@ -173,7 +173,7 @@ Grazie

    C'è un avviso in fondo alla pagina di discussione degli IP .... Forse per renderlo più evidente si potrebbe spostarlo in cima alla pagina?... 95.237.218.42 (msg) 21:53, 20 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    cb La discussione prosegue nella pagina Wikipedia:Bar/Discussioni/Evitare equivoci per gli avvisi a IP dinamici o condivisi.

    – Il cambusiere 95.237.218.42 (msg) 11:52, 21 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

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    Buongiorno,

    Sto svolgendo un tirocinio in un'azienda, e mi è stato chiesto di effettuare una modifica alla pagina wikipedia dell'azienda stessa, non essendo un utente Autoconvalidato però non mi è possibile inserire delle immagini quali il logo dell'azienda e altre. Come posso fare per ottenere la nomina temporanea ad utente Convalidato?

    Ringraziandovi anticipatamente per la vostra disponibilità colgo l'occasione per porgere @@ -190,20 +190,20 @@ Grazie

    Attendo un vostro riscontro, grazie!

    Buona serata, Alberto Dolfin — Questo commento senza la firma utente è stato inserito da Alberto Dolfin (discussioni · contributi).

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    Gradirei collaborare con Wikipedia inserendo miei articoli, saggi di argomento culturale e pubblicare i titoli dei libri che ho scritto. — Questo commento senza la firma utente è stato inserito da 87.18.165.115 (discussioni · contributi) 20:58, 17 nov 2020 (CET).[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Sono già stati pubblicati altrove? Se sì vedi WP:CONCEDI. --87.4.47.34 (msg) 23:39, 17 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Dopo discussione ho ricevuto il via libera per proporre la cancellazione della pagina Antonio Giordano. Ho provato a mettere la stringa sopra la pagina, seguendo le indicazioni (o almeno così mi pareva) ma non compare nulla. Mi potete aiutare per favore? Grazie Sizigia (msg) 23:18, 17 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    [@ Sizigia] ho aggiunto il template {{cancellazione}}, vai alla pagina Antonio Giordano (medico) leggi l'avviso e segui la procedura. --GryffindorD 23:24, 17 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Gentili ho creato una pagina (inserita in prove) per un conduttore Tv e radiofonico nazionale, ma non sono sicuro che sia stata inserita in modo corretto. Per creare il testo abbiamo seguito tutte le indicazioni generali. Qualcuno puo' aiutarmi?— Questo commento senza la firma utente è stato inserito da Intercontatto (discussioni · contributi) 19:36, 18 nov 2020 (CET).[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Innanzitutto le voci non si creano nella pagina utente (che non è una pagina di prove) in secondo luogo il presentatore in questione non rientra nei requisiti di rilevanza enciclopedica. Wikipedia non è un servizio di hosting dove si creano voci-vetrina o a uso "visibilità sul web" (Wikipedia "non fa book") ma una "enciclopedia" e quindi, come tale, le voci sono riservate solo a chi ha avuto una carriera talmente significativa da poter stare, appunto, su una enciclopedia. In terzo luogo, dato che il tuo nome coincide con quello di una agenzia di comunicazione (e quindi è inappropriato) e stai usando il progetto per fare pubblicità o come "strumento di promozione" (cosa vietata), senza averlo dichiarato prima (vedi WP:COMMISSIONE), la tua utenza è stata bloccata a tempo indeterminato. --L736El'adminalcolico 19:39, 18 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Salve, vengo repentinamente bloccato con motivazione "IP degli aggiornamenti errati programmi TV"; ciò mi causa non pochi disagi e mi fa perdere una notevole quantità di tempo oltre che mi fa andar perse le modifiche che stavo attuando. Esempio lampante mi succede sulla voce Municipio di Montréal o anche su altre. Chiedo cortesemente un'aiuto. 37.159.55.114 (msg) 07:17, 19 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Ciao, è un problema del filtro anti abusi6. @Daimona Eaytoy. Per evitare ciò, basta registrarti!--ValeJappo【〒】 07:22, 19 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)] @@ -217,7 +217,7 @@ Grazie
    Diciamo che si deve anche ringraziare una buona parte di IP che utilizzano lo stesso provider e avevano preso di mira le pagine relative ai programmi TV per: scrivere anticipazioni, inserire dettagli e curiosità irrilevanti, inserire a manetta loghi e controloghi in barba a tutte le linee guida. Ad ogni modo, la soluzione più semplice è questa: createvi una utenza e agite come utenti registrati (oltretutto risulta anche più facile comunicare con gli altri utenti).--L736El'adminalcolico 19:42, 19 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Io non consiglio la registrazione di un'utenza, tutti i tuoi contributi verrebbero tenuti sott'occhio e ti creeresti una storia editoriale con cui verresti facilmente "etichettato" in senso ideologico da altri utenti e soprattutto da amministratori superficiali.--151.47.37.37 (msg) 20:31, 19 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Ovviamente non condivido l'opinione di 151.47.37.37 (infatti sono registrato :) però capisco anche che qualcuno possa desiderare di contribuire senza registrazione. Così, come soluzione provvisoria, finché non si risolvono i problemi relativi ai blocchi, 37.159.55.114, se vuole, potrebbe registrarsi, ma usare l'account esclusivamente nei casi in cui viene bloccato come IP. --Pop Op 22:10, 19 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Salve, vorrei creare una pagina Biografia. Ho creato la bozza nella mia Sandbox, e vorrei consigli su come impostare il testo in maniera più efficace. COme posso fare? Potrei avere un tutor? AVrei bisogno anche di allegare una foto di cui ho l'autorizzazione. Ma non riesco a procedere. @@ -229,36 +229,36 @@ Grazie

    - non sono indicate le fonti da cui hai preso le informazioni. Mentre non si può copiare, è invece necessario prendere le informazioni - rielaborando il testo - da fonti terze e indicare con le note (i numerini che vedi in mezzo al testo se provi ad aprire una voce a caso) quali sono queste fonti. Se per dei dati biografici può andare bene il sito ufficiale dle biografato, per confermare la sua rilevanza servono invece delle fonti diverse, come possono essere monografie, saggi, articoli di giornale...
    - con quel lunghissimo elenco di mostre la voce al momento è impostata come un curriculum, il che non va bene. Inoltre elencand così tante esposizioni e pubblicazioni non è possibile capire quali sono le più rilevanti e quali sono minori. Personalmente eliminerei in blocco tutta la parte sulle esposizioni collettive, e scremerei quelle delle personali e le pubblicazioni lasciando solo le più importanti.
    - in ultimo, se stai scrivendo la voce su commissione, a pagamento o anche come favore personale, devi indicarlo nella tua pagina utente --Postcrosser (msg) 11:13, 19 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Ciao :) Ho scritto una voce nella mia pagina di prova, ho fatto alcune correzioni richiesta da moderatori, e adesso vorrei renderla pubblica: come devo procedere? Ci sono istruzioni specifiche da seguire? Ho anche inserito delle foto nella pagina: le prime tre sono andate in porto mentre la quarta non viene caricata perché non sono un utente autoconvalidato o un admin o un utente convalidato. Cosa si fa in questi casi? La foto è correttamente caricata e visibile su Wikicommon. Resto in attesa di chiarimenti per procedere, grazie! --LuiDeLu (msg) 14:21, 19 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Sto facendo da "tutor" all'utente, ora non posso scrivere una risposta esauriente. Il problema principale sono le fonti, se qualcuni ha tempo di dare una buona risposta mi farebbe un grande favore--ValeJappo【〒】 15:48, 19 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Come si cercano le discussione passate nel Bar? Ho provata l'apposita ricerca "Cerca nel bar" ma non funziona, appaiono solo voci di Wikipedia. Cerco una discussione dove si era parlato di Mortadella ma non riesco a trovarla. --Scalorbio (msg) 18:11, 19 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    [@ Scalorbio] questa? Che rimanda a Discussione:Mortadella. --GryffindorD 18:18, 19 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    [@ GryffindorD] Sì, è quella, grazie! :) Come hai fatto a trovarla? --Scalorbio (msg) 18:31, 19 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    [@ Scalorbio] con "Cerca nel bar" ma aggiungendo le virgolette mortadella per avere più precisione :) --GryffindorD 18:36, 19 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Ohhhhh... e pensare che lo uso spesso anche su Google ;) Grazie ancora --Scalorbio (msg) 18:39, 19 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Devo fare questo: rinominare la disambigua Mortadella in "Mortadella (disambigua)" o creare la voce ex-novo (il tutto è stato concordato al Bar), nella voce "Mortadella" sostituire il contenuto con quello della mia attuale sandbox in modo che la disambigua diventi voce a se, ho già fatto cambi nome, scorpori e spostamenti solo che in questo caso non vorrei fare casini, p.e. avere problemi con i redirect o voci che attualmente puntano a disambigua Mortadella (in particolare quelle che non si riferiscono al salume), come devo fare? Preferirei la spiegazione o relativi link al manuale e non che qualcuno lo fa per me perché così in futuro so come fare, grazie :) --Scalorbio (msg) 19:09, 19 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Fatto, mi sembra non sia esploso niente :) --Scalorbio (msg) 19:23, 19 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Scusate ancora, nella nuova voce è opportuno chiedere la cancellazione della talk? --Scalorbio (msg) 19:27, 19 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    [@ Scalorbio] Esatto, stavo proprio per scrivertelo. Devi mettere la talk in C9--ValeJappo【〒】 19:28, 19 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Ok, grazie :) --Scalorbio (msg) 19:30, 19 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Vorrei inserirmi su Wikipedia con la spiegazione di chi sono con la foto e tutto come faccio? — Questo commento senza la firma utente è stato inserito da 37.159.3.147 (discussioni · contributi).

    la domanda denota un approccio sbagliato alla res Wikipedia, che non è un social network né uno spazio per blog, sicché credo dovresti evitare. Suggerisco la lettura di WP:Cosa Wikipedia non è e WP:AUTOBIOGRAFIE. --Vale93b Fatti sentire! 21:38, 19 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Faccio davvero fatica a districarmi tra le varie pagine che spiegano la cosa, ma come si fa ad archiviare la propria pagina di discussione?--Janik (msg) 21:51, 19 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    [@ Janik98] il modo più semplice è quello di spostarla a "Discussioni utente:Janik98/archivio 1" o come preferisci chiamare gli archivi, poi devi ricreare la pagina di discussione. --Civvì (Parliamone...) 21:54, 19 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Ciao, ultimamente ho cancellato opinioni e commenti inutili (e talvolta, se mi posso permettere, anche abbastanza deliranti) lasciati da utenti anonimi su varie pagine di discussione e che nulla hanno a che fare con la voce alla quale è riservata la pagina. Dal momento che WP:TALK precisa che le pagine di discussione non costituiscono dei forum, vorrei comunque assicurarmi che il mio operato sia corretto. Prego di pingarmi. --Syphax98 (msg) 12:09, 20 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    [@ Syphax98] parlo a titolo personale, ma secondo me, piuttosto che cancellare gli interventi, è meglio apporre l'avviso {{WNF}}, o eventualmente, se troppo lunghi, cassettarli. --Agilix (msg) 12:18, 20 nov 2020 (CET)Cancellare un intervento per me non è mai simpatico.[(discussiontools-replylink)] @@ -274,7 +274,7 @@ Resto in attesa di chiarimenti per procedere, grazie! --Penso si possa utilizzare i Criteri di cancellazione immediata C1 e C4, applicati tenendo conto che stiamo trattando una pagina di discussione e non una voce dell'enciclopedia. --95.237.218.42 (msg) 18:24, 20 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Attualmente c'è un problema del genere anche in una pagina di cancellazione (che tecnicamente non è una pagina di discussione, ma ne è comunque molto simile).--95.237.218.42 (msg) 21:49, 20 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    [@ Syphax98] mi è purtroppo capitato di osservare eliminazioni di commenti che definirei improprie, ma sono totalmente favorevole ad eliminare quelle offensive e, ovviamente, quelle che violano le leggi vigenti sul copyright (e più tardi l'oscuramento della cronologia non farebbe male).--EnzoEncius 21:56, 20 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    volevo modificare maometto ed ecco il messaggio che mi appare

    Non si dispone dei permessi necessari per modificare questa pagina, per il seguente motivo:

    Questa pagina è stata protetta per impedirne la modifica o altre operazioni. @@ -283,16 +283,16 @@ Resto in attesa di chiarimenti per procedere, grazie! --Wim b 22:55, 20 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Comunque se vuoi, puoi proporre le tue modifiche nella pagina di discussione della voce, Discussione:Maometto, in modo che vengano valutate ed eventualmente inserite. --Lepido (msg) 23:19, 20 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    cb La discussione prosegue nella pagina Wikipedia:Officina#Problema_preferenze.
    – Il cambusiere ValeJappo【〒】 16:51, 21 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

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    Posso scrivere la trama di ogni singolo episodio?— Questo commento senza la firma utente è stato inserito da Sheen Hossain (discussioni · contributi) 18:53, 21 nov 2020 (CET).[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    [@ Sheen Hossain] vedi WP:Trama --ValeJappo【〒】 18:56, 21 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    [@ Sheen Hossain] Se ti riferisci alla voce sul serial televisivo turco DayDreamer - Le ali del sogno, puoi chiedere maggiori informazioni in Discussioni progetto:Televisione/Fiction_TV. --95.237.218.42 (msg) 20:28, 21 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Ciao a tutti, sto aggiornando alcune pagine di piloti automobilistici italiani con dati, biografie e risultati. Vedo che in alcuni (nella versione mobile) sotto il nome è presente la scritta "pilota automobilistico italiano" mentre in altri no. Ho correttamente inserito nel template biografia la categoria automobilismo e l'attività pilota automobilistico, ma non riesco ad avere risultati :( @@ -300,23 +300,23 @@ Grazie mille--Puoi fare qualche esempio di voci in cui appare e in cui non appare? --Postcrosser (msg) 01:06, 22 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Va creata la scheda su wikidata, però non io non so crearla :( --Ap7189ap 01:16, 22 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Buongiorno,

    mi piacerebbe inserire una nuova pagina su wikipedia dove inserire i CUCIARIN, un formato di pasta fresca che contraddistingue il luogo dov'è nata. E' possibile? — Questo commento senza la firma utente è stato inserito da Pietro Ganni (discussioni · contributi).

    ti è stato risposto in Discussioni utente:Pietro Ganni --Vale93b Fatti sentire! 11:24, 22 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Buongiorno,

    c'è un modo per recuperare quanto avevo scritto, modificarlo, e provare a ripubblicarlo senza usare metodi promozionali?

    Chiedi un parere al dp:gastronomia magari dopo aver letto WP:PROMOZIONALE, WP:COMMISSIONE e riscritto la voce in una sandbox. Leggi anche aiuto:Firma--Pierpao (listening) 11:46, 22 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Buongiorno scusate, probabilmente non sto neanche scrivendo nel posto giusto ma avrei una domanda da fare, in molte pagine che ho visitato che trattano di conflitti c'è come un box che sembra avere lo stesso template, dove si mette titolo e poi le parti del conflitto bellico. Io volevo creare una nuova pagina ma non so dove trovare il template del box. Lo devo per forza copiare?— Questo commento senza la firma utente è stato inserito da Istheendoftheworldasweknowit (discussioni · contributi) 09:37, 23 nov 2020 (CET).[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    [@ Istheendoftheworldasweknowit] sposto qui dal bar.--ValeJappo【〒】 09:43, 23 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    [@ Istheendoftheworldasweknowit] Ciao! Questi sono dei "template", vedi Aiuto:Template. Il template in questione è {{Infobox conflitto}}. Se hai dubbi scrivimi! --ValeJappo【〒】 09:45, 23 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Vedi anche Aiuto:Template sinottici per una spiegazione più in generale dei "box" in altro. --95.244.17.210 (msg) 12:50, 23 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Buongiorno vorrei inserire una nuova voce ma non capisco perchè venga cancellata dicendo che non è uno spazio pubblicitario quando io cerco solo di informare

    Potete aiutarmi? — Questo commento senza la firma utente è stato inserito da Pinkgirlinside (discussioni · contributi) 10:16, 23 nov 2020 (CET).[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    @@ -325,14 +325,14 @@ Grazie mille--Aiuto:Pagina utente. Se vuoi utilizzare uno spazio dove puoi preparare con calma una voce prima di inserirla su Wikipedia, puoi usare la tua sandbox, che nel tuo caso è: Utente:Pinkgirlinside/Sandbox.
  • Inoltre la voce probabilmente non è enciclopedica, la biografata cioè non mi pare raggiunga quella rilevanza necessaria per avere una voce su Wikipedia. Se ritieni invece che la voce possa stare su Wikipedia, devi corredarla di fonti terze ed autorevoli che ne attestino la rilevanza. Un'intervista a Radio Deejay non è sicuramente sufficiente, occorrono articoli di giornali autorevoli o cose simili (che vanno riportati come fonti nella voce) per poter far valere la tua tesi. Per saperne di più, leggi Aiuto:Enciclopedicità, Wikipedia:Biografie di persone viventi, Wikipedia:Convenzioni di stile/Biografie e Wikipedia:Uso delle fonti.
    • Ciao. --Lepido (msg) 11:21, 23 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Buongiorno, avrei una domanda da farmi. Ho lavorato una giornata alla modifica della mia pagina. Ho scritto la lista dettagliata dei programmi radiofonici che ho realizzato per radio 3 allegando il file di ascolto per ogni programma. La pagina era aggiornata. Oggi la ritrovo com'era prima. Sembra che fosse scritta in maniera inappropriata. la sto modificando secondo i criteri richiesti, sebbene non mi siano molto chiari. Forse la lista dei programmi che sono comunque nell'archivio di ascolto pubblico della Radio non è consona? la domanda è: è possibile avere una copia di quella modificata. Stupidamente non me la sono salvata. Sono ore e ore di lavoro per risalire a tutti i programmi. Grazie --Patrizia Giancotti (msg) 10:58, 23 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    [@ Patrizia Giancotti] certamente, basta guardare questa versione della pagina. Ricordo di tenere a mente il motivo dell'annullamento, che riporto di seguito: rimuovo massiccio inserimento di contenuti sprovvisti di fonti terze e/o non confacenti a una trattazione enciclopedica; adeguo alle convenzioni dell'enciclopedia (parziale); +avviso CV--ValeJappo【〒】 11:01, 23 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    In pratica la voce anche adesso è strutturata come un curriculum vitae e non come una voce biografica. Le tue modifiche, pur intrinsecamente giuste nella lettera, avevano peggiorato la situazione. Per una corretta preparazione di una voce bibliografica, leggi Wikipedia:Biografie di persone viventi e Wikipedia:Convenzioni di stile/Biografie. Comunque, come hai visto, su Wikipedia nessun edit va perduto, per conoscere meglio le potenzialità della cronologia delle modifiche delle voci, leggi Aiuto:Cronologia. --Lepido (msg) 11:08, 23 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    [@ Patrizia Giancotti] A ogni buon conto eri stata regolarmente avvisata tramite la tua pagina di discussione. Grazie mille per la gentile comprensione e buon proseguimento! -- Étienne 11:53, 23 nov 2020 (CET)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Buongiorno , ho tentato di inserire la voce Ferdinando Fedi senza successo.

    Forse ho sbagliato la procedura per inserire i miei dati. diff --git a/tests/cases/pl-big-oldparser/pl-big-oldparser-formattedreply.html b/tests/cases/pl-big-oldparser/pl-big-oldparser-formattedreply.html index 39ea86503..01c93180f 100644 --- a/tests/cases/pl-big-oldparser/pl-big-oldparser-formattedreply.html +++ b/tests/cases/pl-big-oldparser/pl-big-oldparser-formattedreply.html @@ -35,13 +35,13 @@


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    W artykule Diecezja legnicka po wstępie następuje bardzo długie kalendarium, w którym wymieniono niemal wszystko co w życiu społeczności katolickiej wydarzyło się na terenie diecezji lub było z nią w nawet najmniejszym stopniu związane, np.15 lipca – w kościele pw. Najświętszego Serca Pana Jezusa w Legnicy (os. Piekary) miała miejsce premiera oratorium....

    Zamierzam usunąć większość zapisów z tego kalendarium. Proszę o wypowiedzi tu lub dyskusję w trakcie usuwania. StoK (dyskusja) 08:23, 29 wrz 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Sporo treści jest bez źródeł, więc nie widzę przeciwwskazań do usunięcia. ~CybularnyNapisz coś ✉ 09:06, 29 wrz 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    WP:CWNJ#1.8 mówi: "Wikipedia nie jest bezładnym zbiorem rzeczy i informacji. To, że coś jest w 100% prawdziwe, nie oznacza automatycznie, że jest odpowiednie, by znaleźć się w Wikipedii." Jeśli już edytujesz ten artykuł, to zwróć uwagę na bałagan typu: raz erygowanie, a raz erygowano, raz eryguje. Pomieszanie czasów i trybów. Zwiadowca21 20:20, 1 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Z uwagi na to, że zmiany interwiki są znacznie mniej widoczne od czasu, gdy zostały przeniesione na Wikidane, poniżej wklejam zmiany, które wyskoczyły jako „podejrzane” w narzędziu do śledzenia zmian w obrębie języka polskiego, a których poprawności nie jestem w stanie w 100% ocenić. Proszę zainteresowane osoby o zerknięcie, a jeśli coś jest nie tak – o informację zwrotną, abym mógł poprawić (jeśli jest okej, to też warto dać odhaczyć).

  • Z wiedzą o społeczeństwie jest bałagan. W pierwszym elemencie nie powinna się znajdować, bo ten dotyczy kierunku studiów. Nie jestem jednak przekonany, czy wszystkie interwiki w drugim elemencie mówią o tym samym. Jest jeszcze Wychowanie obywatelskie (Q10270843), gdzie angielska wersja mówi o WOS. Barcival (dyskusja) 22:23, 1 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Moi drodzy, nie chcę wszczynać kłótni, ale wydaje mi się że powinny być dwa hasła: Hymn Polski i Mazurek Dąbrowskiego. Artykuł o hymnie powinien mówić o tym jakie hymny były wcześniej w Polsce, jaki jest obecny, jak się go wykonuje i chroni. Część można wziąć z Hymn Polski, część z Polskie pieśni hymniczne. Poza tym cały Mazurek... nie jest hymnem, tylko cztery strofy. Mazurek Dąbrowskiego powinien być tylko artykułem o utworze. A wy jak uważacie? Zwiadowca21 15:54, 1 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Sądzę, że to dość dobry pomysł. Historia hymnu polski a mazurka są trochę inne. Piolodiusz (dyskusja) 19:32, 1 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

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    Hasło o mieście, a połowa to opis jakiegoś muralu, który malowali zwykli zjadacze chleba. Moim zdaniem waga jest tutaj zaburzona. Jeśli ten mural jest ważny, to może winien stanowić odrębne hasło? Oczywiście po napisaniu encyklopedycznym językiem... MOs810 (dyskusja) 14:51, 3 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    • Dziwna sprawa z tym muralem: nie ma na jego temat hasła w żadnej wersji językowej (przynajmniej nic nie znajduję na wiki pod frazą Proyecto Vibora), a w medalowym haśle o Elx na eswiki nie jest nawet wspomniany. Może nie jest tak ważny, jak piszą? --Teukros (dyskusja) 15:16, 3 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    • 3/4 sekcji bez źródeł i napisane w stylu neencyklopedycznym ("Jego realizacja była przepięknym, jedynym w swoim rodzaju spektaklem" itp.). Podane źródło nie podaje powierzchni muralu – pewnie autor ją wyliczył mnożąc długość przez szerokość, gdy nie wiadomo czy szerokość była stała, a że jest błędna może świadczyć to, że wg Księgi rekordów Guinnessa największy mural ma 16554,8m² znajduje się w USA i został wpisany w 1997 roku. Aotearoa dyskusja 19:27, 3 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Witam. Przejdę może od razu do meritum sprawy, gdyż nie mam pomysłu na wstęp.

    W polskiej Wikipedii istnieje artykuł Mozilla, który, szczerze mówiąc, nie mam pojęcia czego tak właściwie dotyczy (ale do tego jeszcze wrócę). W każdym razie po zajrzeniu na statystyki wyświetleń stron na Wikipedii udostępniane przez Wikimedia Foundation można dojść do wniosku, iż artykuł ten jest nad wyraz popularny, gdy porówna się go do podobnych do niego pod względem treści – Mozilla (projekt) i Mozilla Application Suite. Podejrzewam, że ludzie, chcąc dostać się do artykułu o fundacji Mozilla, wpisują w wyszukiwarkę po prostu „Mozilla”, a ta przenosi ich nie do końca tam, gdzie by chcieli, zwiększając przy tym statystyki wyświetleń. Sama Mozilla Foundation nie ma w swoim logotypie słowa „Foundation”, a dodatkowo w wielu miejscach pisze o sobie po prostu „Mozilla”, więc ludzie też pod takim hasłem szukają. Moja propozycja jest więc taka, żeby przenieść artykuł, który obecnie znajduje się pod nazwą „Mozilla”, pod inną nazwę, a w ustąpione przez niego miejsce stworzyć przekierowanie do artykułu „Fundacja Mozilla”. Nie wiem niestety, pod jaką nazwę przenieść ten artykuł. Informacje w nim zawarte to taki miszmasz. Pierwszy i czwarty akapit dublują informacje zawarte w artykule „Mozilla Application Suite”, zaś drugi i trzeci – w „Mozilla (projekt)”. To samo tyczy się grafik – również dublują te znajdujące się już w ww. artykułach. Z tego powodu, zamiast zastanawiać się, pod jaką nazwę przenieść artykuł „Mozilla”, może lepiej będzie, moim zdaniem, go po prostu usunąć. Szkoda tylko tracić listy autorów.

    Jak widać, jest to sprawa dość skomplikowana i z pewnością warta przedyskutowania, więc zdecydowałem się napisać o niej tutaj. Z góry przepraszam, jeśli wybrałem nieodpowiednią sekcję kawiarenki. GregX21 (dyskusja) 19:49, 4 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)] @@ -94,7 +94,7 @@ Z kolei Ja zasadniczo przeniósłbym obecną zawartość strony Mozilla do Mozilla (projekt), bo jest to pojęcie najogólniejsze i może linkować do bardziej szczegółowych zagadnień jak Mozilla Foundation czy Mozilla Suite. W takich przypadku miałoby sens wstawienie od razu na stronie Mozilla linków obecnych aktualnie na stronie Mozilla (ujednoznacznienie). Wtedy po wpisaniu samego "Mozilla" można byłoby wybrać poszukiwane zagadnienie. A na marginesie, swego czasu brałem dość intensywnie udział w projektach Mozilli i też miewałem problemy z relacjami między poszczególnymi elementami projektu ;) Witia (dyskusja) 14:12, 6 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Po przeczytaniu Twojej wypowiedzi, ponownie zajrzałem do omawianego tutaj artykułu, kolejny raz przeczytałem zawarty w nim tekst i... w sumie masz rację. Wybrane fragmenty tego tekstu mogłyby z powodzeniem uzupełnić treść artykułu „Mozilla (projekt)”, ale nie wszystkie, bo chyba nie ma co pisać w tym artykule, że Mozilla Suite nie jest już rozwijany, a jego następca to SeaMonkey. Natomiast co do propozycji uczynienia z artykułu „Mozilla” strony ujednoznaczniającej, to pozostałbym jednak przy swoim pomyśle. Niby pomysł nie jest głupi, ale wydaje mi się, że jeśli ktoś wpisuje w wyszukiwarkę słowo „Mozilla”, to na co najmniej 80% chodzi mu o Mozilla Foundation. Przeciętny Kowalski nie będzie raczej zainteresowany artykułami tak egzotycznymi, jak np. Księga Mozilli, a ci, których to interesuje i tak będą wiedzieli, pod jakim hasłem tego szukać. Wstawienie ujednoznacznienia do artykułu „Mozilla” miałoby większy sens, gdyby wszystkie hasła w nim zawarte cieszyły się podobnym zainteresowaniem, a tak przecież nie jest. Nie mówię jednak ostatniego słowa i może faktycznie Twój pomysł jest lepszy.
    PS To teraz ja jestem takim jakby odpowiednikiem Ciebie, bo ogromnie interesują mnie tematy związane z Firefoksem. Aż przykro mi jest patrzeć na to, jak zmniejsza się liczba użytkowników różnych przeglądarek (m.in. Firefoksa) na rzecz Chrome'a, który nie posiada przecież żadnych wyróżniających się funkcjonalności. GregX21 (dyskusja) 18:18, 6 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    W związku z ostatnimi dyskusjami w kilku DNU, w tym zwłaszcza w Kościół św. Jana Kantego w Krakowie, proponuję (za radą @Adamt) głosowanie nt. autoencyklopedyczności kościołów/cerkwi/synagog niezależnie od ich statusu zabytkowego, formy architektonicznej, czy daty powstania. Argumentacja jest w skrócie taka, że wiele lat pracy dziesiątek Wikipedystów może iść do pieca (w tym Wikigranty Stowarzyszenia, kościoły z TT, czy np. ostatni MiniWikiProjekt Kościoły Poznania), ponieważ przez ponad dziesięć lat tworzyliśmy hasła o kościołach przy zerowym sprzeciwie i pełnej aprobacie społeczności - nikt się nie sprzeciwiał, kościoły lądowały w Czywieszu i wszystko było OK. Teraz jednemu z Wikipedystów przypomniało się, że kościoły jednak nie są autoency i ogromne dziedzictwo może zostać wyrzucone. Wszystko byłoby OK, gdyby komuś przypomniało się to 10 lat temu - wtedy nie byłoby zbędnej roboty. W mojej opinii wyrzucanie po latach pracy stworzonego zasobu byłoby przejawem lekceważenia, braku szacunku i arogancji w stosunku do wielu z nas, swoistym przejawem zmiany zasad w trakcie gry. Rozumiem, że nie było dotąd autoencyklopedyczności, ale nie było też dotąd żadnych sprzeciwów, a nawet aprobata społeczności (Czywiesz, TT, granty, itp.). Wielu z nas rozumiało to, jako przychylność społeczności dla tworzenia haseł o kościołach i gwarant nienaruszalności dziedzictwa. Prawdopodobnie pomyliliśmy się srogo i nasza wieloletnia praca jest zagrożona. Nie mam nic przeciwko nieencyklopedyczności jakichś obiektów, ale w tym wypadku wygląda to tak, że przez ponad 10 lat była aprobata i nie było sprzeciwów, więc naiwniacy tworzyli hasła, marnotrawili setki godzin życia, a teraz, gdy już mamy wspaniały zasób, to się tych naiwniaków wali pałą w łeb, a zasób spłukuje. Bardzo nieelegancko, bardzo nieprofesjonalnie, bardzo nieprzyszłościowo w stosunku do edytorów. Proszę o pomoc w technicznym zorganizowaniu głosowania. Pzdr. MOs810 (dyskusja) 12:14, 29 lip 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    • Nie widzę potrzeby głosowania: w przytoczonej dyskusji jedynie @Teukros opowiadał się za usunięciem. Nie sądzę więc, by kościołom na Wikipedii groziło jakieś realne niebezpieczeństwo. :) Gdarin dyskusja 12:31, 29 lip 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
      • @@ -130,21 +130,21 @@ Czy ta dyskusja jest o encyklopedii papierowej, czy elektronicznej? Jeśli elekt

      "Jama w ziemi" nie jest obiektem trwałym. Świątynie stanowią istotny element wiejskiego/miejskiego krajobrazu i jako takie powinny być uznane za autoency - pod dwoma warunkami: określenia, co wg zasad Wiki jest świątynią (że np. musi stać na odrębnej działce lub że musi ją prowadzić zarejestrowanyzwiązek wyznaniowy) oraz podanie wyjątków od zasady autoencyklopedyczności (np. niezabytkowe kościoły filialne). "Kiczowatość" budynku encyklopedyczności nie odbiera.BasileusAutokratorPL (dyskusja) 17:15, 9 wrz 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

      • By nie wynikły niespójne wyrywkowe rozwiązania nieprzystające do reszty wikiświata kwestię należałoby rozpatrywać bardziej kompleksowo pod kątem ogólnych zasad (znaczenie/zauważalność). Przy tym z jednej strony pod kątem encyklopedyczności organizacji (np. parafii, stowarzyszeń, itp.), a z drugiej strony pod kątem encyklopedyczności obiektów budowlanych, (np. kościołów, szkół, budowli transportowych, inżynieryjnych, obiektów przemysłowych, handlowych, sportowych itp.). W tym drugim przypadku przesłankami ency może być np. znaczenie historyczne, ranga pełnionej funkcji użytkowej, znaczenie ze względu na rozwiązania architektoniczne/techniczne, zauważalność ze względu na znaczenie turystyczne itp.--Alan ffm (dyskusja) 11:34, 8 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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      W Wikidanych wyskoczyła podejrzana próba dodawania opisu przez osobę spod IP. IPek dodawał informację, że za Zbrodnia w Korytnikach odpowiedzialne było UPA, za chwilę zmienił na LSB. Elementy w WD były jeszcze przed chwilą puste, ale chciałbym się upewnić, że informacje w tych czterech artykułach w Kategoria:Zbrodnie oddziałów Ludowej Straży Bezpieczeństwa są okej, bo posłużyły mi za wypełnienie odpowiadających im elementów w WD. Pytam, bo mało edytowane i odwiedzane, wszędzie jedno i to samo źródło, a tematyka jest potencjalnie kontrowersyjna. Mógłby ktoś rzucić okiem na arty w tej kategorii i stwierdzić okej/nie okej? Wostr (dyskusja) 22:26, 9 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

      • Wszystkie te zbrodnie, wg obecnej treści haseł, są przypisane oddziałowi pod dowództwem Romana Kisiela ps. Sęp. Którego biografia zasługuje na zainteresowanie. Krótkie streszczenie: Był w BCh, tych wcielonych do AK. Ale raczej lubił działać na własną rękę. Latem 1944 organizował w powiecie przemyskim sieć posterunków Milicji Obywatelskiej (co nb. było częste u ludzi z BCh). Czyli działał już na terenach wyzwolonych spod Niemca. We wrześniu 1944 przyłączył się do oddziałów LSB. W lipcu 1945 ujawnił się (w tym okresie popełniono zbrodnie - marzec, kwiecień 1945). We wrześniu 1945 aresztowany, podpisuje kwit o współpracy z UB, zwolniony w czerwcu 1946, ukrywa się. We wrześniu 1947 podejmuje jednak współpracę z UB, ale w październiku 1947 znowu aresztowany. Śledztwo umorzono, zwolniony (nie wiadomo kiedy), w 1950 organizuje jakieś podziemne oddziały, w 1952 znowu aresztowany, w 1953 kara śmierci, zamieniona na 15 lat, zwolniony już w 1956, praca w ZBOWiD, potem tajna współpraca z SB. Wg mnie ewidentnie współpracownik ubecji, zapewne ratujący własną głowę, organizujący prowokacje celem rozbicia podziemia niepokornych ludowców, tych "nieprzekonanych" do pomysłu budowy wspólnie z PPR i PZPR nowej, komunistycznej Polski. Pytanie, czy zbrodnie Kisiela (o ile je popełnił) można przypisać organizacyjnie do LSB? Czy Kisiel może działał na własną rękę, jeno pod płaszczykiem LSB, czy może był już wtedy człowiekiem ubecji? Należałoby sięgnąć po rzetelne, współczesne monografie opisujące podziemie działające na terenach, na których dojść miało to ww. zbrodni. Bo w książce samego Kisiela Bez munduru my żołnierze 1939–1944 (wyd. 1969, czyli w szczytowym okresie Moczara) bym nie szukał. --Kriis bis (dyskusja) 14:15, 11 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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      Na przykład w haśle Droga św. Jakuba mamy sekcję, gdzie jest coraz więcej pozycji. Od Kodeksu kalikstyńskiego i powieści Coelho po opowieści współczesnych pielgrzymów. O ile niektóre z tych książek (i filmów) to są ważne/znane dzieła, to dodawanie książek/czek jak to z żoną i synem przebyliśmy Drogę nie wydaje mi się encyklopedyczne. Co z tego, że ktoś sobie nakręcił film dokumentalny. Postuluję usunięcie z sekcji chociaż czerwonolinkowych. Ciacho5 (dyskusja) 21:51, 10 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

      hm, jednym z kryt. bycia ency jest obecność w literaturze, filmie itp. Więc to jest istotna info. Tyle, że z głową. Tzn. książka musi być albo ency, albo chociaż ency pisarza. Dlatego podwójnie czerwonolinki (tzn. i książka i jej autor) bym wywalał. natomiast fakt, że ksiązka jest czerwonolinka nie jest przesłanką do wywalenia, o ile autor jest znaczący. Plus wyjątek dla najstarszej publikacji o Drodze, tej z wczesnego średniowiecza. --Piotr967 podyskutujmy 23:52, 10 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
      • Nawet gdyby nie znalazło się żadnej ksiązki o Camino, to jest to fenomen z pewnością encyklopedyczny. Problem w tym, że im bardziej ency, tym bardziej obrasta literaturą, która do wkazania encyklopedyczności już nie jest potrzebna. Jeżeli jedyną przesłanką ency jest to, że na podstawie losów jakiegoś szeregowego żołnierza napisano książkę i nakręcono film (jest taki), to w artykule trzeba poświęcić całą sekcję na to, kto jak i kiedy oraz dlaczego opisał. Natomiast wyliczanie wszystkich ksiązek, których akcja dzieje się w Warszawie..... Warto (aczkolwiek nie wiem gdzie) opisać Warszawę Prusa (albo Prusa warszawskiego), ale hamować się trzeba. Ciacho5 (dyskusja) 10:12, 11 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
      • Pół z tego co jest w sekcji "literatura" w ogóle nie jest literaturą (np. albumy). Rozdział ten postrzegam więc jako śmietnik powstały na skutek nierozumienia znaczenia słów, których się używa. Wypisywanie na własna rękę pozycji w podpunktach to zresztą chyba OR - każdym razie na pewno jest to praca badawcza. Rozdziały takie mogłyby powstawać na Wiki na podstawie publikacji mówiących o obecności czegoś w literaturze przygotowanych przez specjalistów, na własną rękę jest to amatorska praca własna, i to często bardzo słaba. Nie mielibyśmy wtedy nie tylko problemów z błędną treścią, ale też treść i forma byłyby ciekawsze (bez naiwnego amatorskiego zestawienia, za to z elementami historycznymi i analitycznymi). W sumie uważam takie listy za szkodliwe. Henryk Tannhäuser (...) 14:44, 11 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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      Nie daję sobie rady z naprawą błędów w kodzie źródłowym strony. Przykładowo, nie mam pojęcia co autor miał na myśli przez „podstarosta lwowski w [[1640|1643 roku]][[1645|,]]” --WTM (dyskusja) 22:46, 11 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

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      „Cyklon B” czy „cyklon B”?[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

      W rozbudowywanym artykule Kurt Gerstein wielokrotnie używana jest nazwa handlowa insektycydu stosowanego przez nazistów w komorach gazowych. Nie jestem pewny, czy nazwę pisać z dużej litery, czy z małej: „Cyklon B” vs. „cyklon B”. Za pierwszą wersją przemawia fakt, że nie jest nazwa własna, ale nazwa handlowa i dlatego powinna być pisana z dużej litery. Proszę o opinie. Jacek555 ✉ 14:50, 6 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

      Ale jeżeli „cyklon”, to „cyklon b”, czyż nie? Vinsinna (dyskusja) 18:35, 6 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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      No i fajnie. Mamy ustalenie :) Jacek555 ✉ 19:53, 16 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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      Przypisy do ebooków. Co z numerami stron?[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

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      Przypisy do ebooków. Co z numerami stron?[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

      Mam sporo ebooków i czasem chciałbym wstawić przypis do ebooka. Niestety ebooki nie mają numerów stron. Czy w związku z tym mogę wstawić przypis do ebooka bez numeru stron? Czy można podać jakiś inny identyfikator? Niektóre programy wyświetlają coś takiego jak "loc", np. przy otwarciu Calibre wyświetla się coś takiego. pawelmxm (dyskusja) 12:55, 16 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

      • Jeśli mowa o ebookach czytanych przez Calibre, radziłbym cytować książki elektroniczne za pomocą szablonu Cytuj. W polu "s" (lub "strony") wpisujemy akapit (np. akapit 4.22), a także określamy typ nośnika (np. EPUB). Dosłowny cytat z danej książki w parametrze "cytat" również mógłby pomóc zweryfikować jej treść. Ironupiwada (dyskusja) 13:30, 16 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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      • A co z systemem strona 104/345, gdzie drugi numer jest całkowitą liczbą stron? Mi sie to wyświetla pod tekstem/ Ciacho5 (dyskusja) 15:48, 16 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
        Problem polega na tym, że całkowita liczba stron na czytniku może być generowana w zależności od kroju i rozmiaru czcionki (ja tak przynajmniej mam na swoim). U nas na uniwersytecie radzono, żeby zliczyć wzór –> aktualna strona/liczba przeczytanych stron i procentowy wynik działania wpisać jako lokację. Oczywiście jest to bardzo niewygodne rozwiązanie, mniej niezawodne od cytowania książki drukowanej. Ironupiwada (dyskusja) 16:57, 16 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
        A tego nie wiedziałem. "Mój" sposób właśnie to podaje, tylko bez procentów (żeby dla dzieci, matek karmiących i abstynentów było). Ciacho5 (dyskusja) 08:56, 17 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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      Dokonałem zmiany w dzisiejszym artykule z CzW, doprowadzając do zgodności ze źródłem i naszym własnym artykułem o nazewnictwie planetoid. Jednak źródła tylko podają metodę liczenia, a nie wynik. Sam wynik wydaje mi się absurdalnie duży. Może niech ktoś na to zerknie, w szczególności sam autor @Michał Rosa. Gżdacz (dyskusja) 08:39, 17 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

      Dziękuję za poprawienie wyliczenia. W wyniku nie ma nic dziwnego, ani "absurdalnego", około dziesięciu tysięcy odkryć w jednym okresie to nic dziwnego. Michał Rosa (dyskusja) 09:16, 17 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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      {{Agatowa Stolica Polski}} wstawiany np. tutaj (specjalna:diff/54673575). Zupełnie nie znam się na szablonach i zasadach ich ency lub użyteczności. Dlatego tutaj pytam. Merytorycznie nie widzę co ów szablon wnosi, jest wg mnie jedynie chwytnym sloganem reklamowym używanym do promocji miasta i imprezy Lwów. Lato Agatowe. A reklama to chyba nie cel wiki? @Bobek321 do autora, by wiedział o dyskusji --Piotr967 podyskutujmy 19:25, 11 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

      • @Piotr967 Moim zamysłem było zgromadzenie w jedno miejsce tematyki zw. z LLA, może użyłem nieodpowiednich słów, w każdym razie chciałem zebrać tę tematykę w jednym szablonie. Jeśli jest nieodpowiedni to czy można go przekształcić w taki sposób by był zgodny ze standardami strony? Jeśli nie ma możliwości reformy to w takim przypadku szablon spotka niechybny koniec. Proszę o jakieś rozwiązanie/a. Bobek321 (dyskusja) 13:17, 12 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    • Poprawiłem nieco ten szablon. Mam nadzieję, że teraz jest ok. Bobek321 (dyskusja) 21:08, 17 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    No niezbyt OK, bo on ma teraz dwie nazwy, w dodatku nowa "Agaty w Lwówku Śląskim" jest wg mnie błędna - we Lwówku agaty nie występują, są w Płóczkach, Lubiechowej, Różanej, Nw. Kościele, więc blisko, ale zdecydowanie poza miastem czy jego bezpośrednim otoczeniem. Przyjrzę się i może wpadnę na lepszą nazwę. --Piotr967 podyskutujmy 21:25, 17 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    IMO szablon ma wątpliwe kryteria doboru artykułów. Jest w nim to co ma związek z Agatami i z Lwówkiem oraz dodatkowo ma hasło na wiki. Do takich sytuacji mamy kategorie i nie robimy ozdobników w postaci szablonów nawigacyjnych. ~malarz pl PISZ 21:49, 17 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Pytanie dotyczące artykułów o czasopismach. Czy ta sama nazwa czasopisma wydawanego w różnych okresach czasowych zasługuje na to samo hasło?[(discussiontools-topicsubscription-button-subscribe)]

    Mam pytanie dotyczące artykułów o czasopismach. Często można spotkać się z sytuacją, że pewien tytuł czasopisma jest używana wielokrotnie w historii przez różne grupy, np. czasopismo Szczerbiec było wydawane w latach 20-tych, potem znowu w czasie wojny przez NSZ zob Szczerbiec (pismo NSZ) a potem znowu ktoś je reaktywował po 1989 roku Szczerbiec (miesięcznik). Więc w sumie mamy 3 "Szczerbce". Podobna sytuacja w tym haśle: Polska Partia Socjalno-Demokratyczna Galicji i Śląska Cieszyńskiego, jest pismo Nowy Robotnik wydawane na końcu XIX wieku przez PPSD a potem na początku XX wieku przez kogoś zupełnie innego. Więc w sumie mamy dwa pisma Nowy Robotnik z czego jedno ma swój artykuł inne nie. Czy w takim wypadku uzasadnione jest istnienie różnych stron dla każdego pisma? Czy te strony powinny być w jakiś sposób ze sobą powiązane? pawelmxm (dyskusja) 12:29, 18 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    • Nie. Pisma powstałe po roku 1989 a używające nazw dawnych czasopism (np. Bluszcz czy Warszawska Gazeta) mają bardzo niewiele wspólnego z przedwojennymi wydawnictwami. Powinny mieć osobne hasła, które w treści mogą zawierać wzmiankę np. W XXXX r. powstało czasopismo o tej samej nazwie nawiązujące doYYY. (można trochę więcej, na czym to nawiązywanie polega). Tomasz Raburski (dyskusja) 13:05, 18 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    • Powinny być ze sobą powiązane przez disambig albo zobacz też. Ciacho5 (dyskusja) 14:04, 18 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Wątek założony przed: 21:03, 18 paź 2018 (CET)

    Jak dodać czarne tło w komórce (W tabelce)? Tak jak w tym artykule https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubel_bia%C5%82oruski w tabelce "Pierwszy rubel (1992–1999)" (Chodzi o awers i rewers)

    W kodzie źródłowym danej komórki musi się znaleźć wpis: bgcolor="#000000".
    We wspomnianym artykule cała linijka kodu dla pierwszego wiersza w kolumnie Awers wygląda tak: | align="center" bgcolor="#000000" | [[Plik:Belarus-1992-Bill-0.5-Obverse.jpg|105px]]; bgcolor to z ang. background color, czyli kolor tła; kolor czarny w zapisie szesnastkowym to #000000. Demkoff dyskusja 03:41, 19 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Mamy dwa szablony {{uł}} i {{sfrac}} do podawania ułamków w artykułach. Autorami są odpowiednio Matma Rex i Karol Szapsza. Obejrzawszy linkujące (i wiek) uważam, że oba są praktycznie martwe. Zastanawiam się więc, czy nie prościej byłoby z nich zrezygnować na rzecz uniwersalnego <math>. Ewentualnie może należałoby je chociaż zintegrować. Przy okazji jako ciekawostkę dodam, że {{sfrac}} jest zabezpieczony przed subst:. Paweł Ziemian (dyskusja) 22:26, 2 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Nie wiem, po co napisałem {{uł}}, pewnie był mi potrzebny do jakiegoś artykułu te dziesięć lat temu ;) Nie zgłaszam sprzeciwu. Matma Rex dyskusja 00:16, 3 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Czy w artykule Szereg 1 − 2 + 3 − 4 + … można wszystkie szeregi zapisać przy pomocy <math>? A przynajmniej zamieć dywizy na minusy?... Ashaio (dyskusja) 14:09, 19 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Dobre pytanie. Połączyłem chyba ze dwa w pełen wzór, w których {{nowrap}} zawierał w sobie matematyczny zapis ułamka. Paweł Ziemian (dyskusja) 22:23, 19 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Dzień dobry! Moi znajomy (IRL) wikipedysta podpowiedział mi, abym poszukała odpowiedzi na forum publicznym. Otóż w ubiegłym miesiącu dopisałam tę informację do hasła Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II. Moim zdaniem to była istotna informacja, ponieważ dopiero w ostatnich miesiącach wyszło na jaw, że słynny z brzydoty X-32 (możecie go kojarzyć z memów takich jak ten) miał wypięknieć, a to jest istotne, bo różnica między klasyczną a nieklasyczną konfiguracją aerodynamiczną mogła mieć wpływ na wynik przetargu. Toteż dopisałam tę informację i źródło, z którego ją zaczerpnęłam. Tymczasem wikipedysta Matrek usunął przypis, a nie usunął informacji z uzasadnieniem "To źródło nie zostało użyte do napisania tych treści", kiedy przecież zoastało, wiem to, bo sama "te treści" napisałam. Zresztą wystarczy spojrzeć na drugi przypis, odnoszący się do pisma z 2001, a mówimy tutaj o informacji, która została potwierdzona dopiero w 2018. Tak więc nie wiem, jak powinnam interpretować "To źródło nie zostało użyte", gdy wiem, że zostało... chyba że to ja mam jakieś zwidy i nie napisałam tego, co napisałam. :) Vinsinna (dyskusja) 15:45, 18 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Spróbuj wyjaśnić to najpierw z wikipedystą Matrkiem. Wygląda na to, że wziął Twoją edycję za poprawki redakcyjne i usunął dodany odnośnik jako nie będący źródłem artykułu. Gdybyś dodała swoją informację za istniejącym odnośnikiem źródłowym i zakończyła ten wtręt odnośnikiem do "swojego" źródła – nie byłoby pewnie nieporozumienia. Kenraiz (dyskusja) 17:07, 18 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)] @@ -217,7 +217,7 @@ Czy ta dyskusja jest o encyklopedii papierowej, czy elektronicznej? Jeśli elekt
    • @Kenraiz (nauczyłam się wysyłać powiadomienia :)) To w takim razie czy byłbyś uprzejmy zerknąć na hasło Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II i wstawić ten przypis w tym miejscu, w którym Twoim zdaniem on powinien być? Albo mógłbyś powiedzieć, w którym miejscu mam go wstawić? Z tego, co napisałeś, wnioskuję, że powinno być tak: "w oczach oceniającej obydwa projekty komisji mogło faworyzować X-35[tu przypis stary], mimo że docelow konfiguracja potencjalnego F-35 miałaby być bardziej klasyczna[tu przypis nowy]". Czy dobrze rozumiem? :) Vinsinna (dyskusja) 21:10, 19 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    W artykule o filmie November man, który napisałem, został zmieniony tytuł na Listopadowy człowiek. Jest to polskie, dosłowne tłumaczenie, niemniej film szedł w polskich kinach pod amerykańskim tytułem i na całym świecie jest znany jako November man (nikt tego nie tłumaczy). Jest to przecież pseudonim głównego bohatera (jak James Bond). Filmweb podaje też oryginalny tytuł. Może powinienem najpierw napisać do @Artur Andrzej, który jest autorem tych zmian, ale dla mnie ważna jest dyskusja, czy tak w ogóle można robić. --Czyz1 (dyskusja) 14:45, 21 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    • Wygląda na to, że przynajmniej w telewizji film był emitowany pod tytułem Listopadowy człowiek (zob. te wyniki wyszukiwania: https://www.google.com/search?q="listopadowy+człowiek"+film+-wikipedia&ei=3LLMW4bgFI32kwXew4KwBw&start=0&sa=N&biw=1210&bih=573). W takiej sytuacji zwyczajowo stosujemy tytuł w języku polskim, także wtedy, gdy film jest szeroko znany pod tytułem w języku angielskim (co jest normą). --Teukros (dyskusja) 19:12, 21 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)] @@ -226,20 +226,20 @@ Czy ta dyskusja jest o encyklopedii papierowej, czy elektronicznej? Jeśli elekt
    • Chyba jednak stosujemy najpowszechniej używany tytuł. Taki Dirty Dancing wszedł u nas jako Wirujący sex – czy zatem pod tym zapomnianym (i absurdalnym) polskim tytułem powinniśmy trzymać ten film? Aotearoa dyskusja 17:26, 22 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    • Ten tytuł powinien być uwzględniony we wstępie (wraz z przypisem). Eurohunter (dyskusja) 18:44, 23 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Przy okazji regeneracji infoboksu dzielnica, Malarz zrobił zestawienia artykułów z tym infoboksem. Przeanalizowałem sekcję SIMC i na pierwszy ogień proponuję 266 artykułów o nazwie rozpoczynającej się od Osiedle i nazw tych nie ma w zestawieniu PRNG. Piszę tu bo do Wikiprojekt:Polskie miejscowości/osiedla podstrony wikiprojektu nikt nie zajrzy, a podjęcie działań będzie wymagało dyskusji.

    Zastanawiałem się czy nie zgłosić tego do Zgłoś błąd.

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    "pokolenie ludzi urodzonych w Polsce" – nie ludzi w Polsce. Czy ktoś to potrafi naprawić? Eurohunter (dyskusja) 23:59, 23 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

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    Witam, nie mam pojęcia, czy to dobry dział na tego rodzaju problemy, ale postanowiłem spróbować. Nie dalej jak 2 dni temu wrzuciłem zdjęcie grobu Zofii Więcławówny, zwykle administratorzy nie robią żadnych korekt, ale w tym przypadku wikipedystka Milagros aal przeniosła to zdjęcie do infoboxu aktorki (wcześniej znajdowało się pod nim). Pierwszy raz spotykam się z czymś takim, bo zwykle takie zdjęcia są umiejscowione pod infoboxem lub jeszcze niżej i wtedy wygląda to, moim zdaniem, znacznie lepiej. Jak sądzę, w infoboxie powinno być raczej zdjęcie z twarzą aktorki albo tylko podstawowe dane o niej. Gdy widnieje tam grób, wygląda to co najmniej dziwnie. Dodam jeszcze, że nigdy nie spotkałem się na Wikipedii z tego typu podejściem, by właśnie zdjęcie grobu wrzucać do infoboxu. Gdy poprosiłem ową wikipedystkę, by przywróciła poprzednią wersję strony i przeniosła to zdjęcie, to obrażona odpisała tymi słowy: "W takim razie proszę sobie zmienić skoro "będzie lepiej" i tyle w tym temacie. Na Wikipedii podpisujemy się za pomocą czterech tyld. I tutaj nie dyskutujemy czy będzie lepiej. Po prostu tak jest." Chętnie zmieniłbym to sam, ale nie jestem administratorem i z tego co widzę, nie posiadam do tego uprawnień. Nie chcę już wchodzić w dyskusje z tą Panią, bo widzę, że to nie ma sensu. Więc proszę niejako o interwencję z zewnątrz. Fajnie, jeśli ktoś kompetentny cofnąłby ostatnią edycję Milagros aal, zwłaszcza, że wyraziła na to zgodę. To tyle, czekam niecierpliwie na odpowiedź i mam nadzieję, że ta sprawa jakoś się rozwiąże.

    Agrezt (dyskusja) 09:59, 25 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    • Bywało dość często, że wstawiano zdjęcie nagrobka do infoboksu, bo innych nie było. @Milagros aal Czas jakiś temu sprawę przedyskutowano i raczej była zgoda, że tak nie należy robić. Możesz sam zmienić, nie trzeba do tego admina. Wejdź w historię i anuluj edycję Milagros, z komentarzem, zdjęcie nagrobka nie do infoboksu lub podobnym (o ile przeniesienie zdjęcia było całą zmianą). Ogólnie mówiąc, admini nie mają uprawnień do "wiedzenia lepiej". Zazwyczaj wiedzą lepiej z racji długiego stażu, ale dyskutować z nimi można. Ciacho5 (dyskusja) 10:15, 25 paź 2018 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
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    Czy mógłbym poprosić o przyjrzenie się hasłu przez bezstronnego administratora oraz o ewentualną interwencję? Aktualnie tam operujący osobnik nadużywa swojej władzy poprzez:

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    Ik heb het onoverzichtelijke, rommelige design vervangen naar een (naar mijn mening) overzichtelijkere stijl. Maak wijzigingen als je iets ziet dat je liever anders hebt ;-) —PPelberg (WMF) (overleg) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]

    Ik moet even wennen... PPelberg (WMF) (overleg) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Aan de kleuren? — PPelberg (WMF) (overleg) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Het ziet er mooi uit Empoor Smile.png PPelberg (WMF) (overleg) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Thnx :-) Hier en daar zijn er nog wel wat dingen die verbeterd kunnen worden — PPelberg (WMF) (overleg) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Voor mij ook even wennen, iets minder 'Wiki-stijl' dan ik gewend ben (als je begrijpt wat ik bedoel). "Wikipedia in het nieuws" (niet te verwarren met "Wikipedia-nieuws") en "Mijlpalen" zouden er w.m.b. uit mogen. PPelberg (WMF) (overleg) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)]
    Snap het. Heb Wikipedia-nieuws veranderd in Intern nieuws over Wikipedia en Wikimedia (beetje lang, maar zegt het wel gelijk precies). Tsja, mijlpalen.. Sommige zijn belangrijk, sommige niet, naar mijn mening. — PPelberg (WMF) (overleg) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)[(discussiontools-replylink)] diff --git a/tests/cases/wrappers/wrappers-formattedreply.html b/tests/cases/wrappers/wrappers-formattedreply.html index d6e815105..64eb28486 100644 --- a/tests/cases/wrappers/wrappers-formattedreply.html +++ b/tests/cases/wrappers/wrappers-formattedreply.html @@ -1,15 +1,15 @@ -

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