diff --git a/includes/CommentFormatter.php b/includes/CommentFormatter.php
index 726a6dbed..f4b8eb8cc 100644
--- a/includes/CommentFormatter.php
+++ b/includes/CommentFormatter.php
@@ -144,6 +144,8 @@ class CommentFormatter {
 				$replyLink->setAttribute( 'role', 'button' );
 				$replyLink->setAttribute( 'tabindex', '0' );
 				$replyLink->setAttribute( 'data-mw-comment', $itemJSON );
+				// Set empty 'href' to avoid a:not([href]) selector in MobileFrontend
+				$replyLink->setAttribute( 'href', '' );
 				$replyLink->nodeValue = wfMessage( 'discussiontools-replylink' )->inLanguage( $lang )->text();
 
 				$bracket = $doc->createElement( 'span' );
diff --git a/tests/cases/ar-no-paragraph-oldparser/ar-no-paragraph-oldparser-formattedreply.html b/tests/cases/ar-no-paragraph-oldparser/ar-no-paragraph-oldparser-formattedreply.html
index 7fe5ac0b0..2a60d2329 100644
--- a/tests/cases/ar-no-paragraph-oldparser/ar-no-paragraph-oldparser-formattedreply.html
+++ b/tests/cases/ar-no-paragraph-oldparser/ar-no-paragraph-oldparser-formattedreply.html
@@ -20,51 +20,51 @@
 </th></tr>
 <tr>
 <td><div class="lirev" style="max-height: 600px; overflow: auto; padding: 2px 0 2px 5px; background-color: #F9F9F9;vertical-align:top;font-size:110%">
-<ol><li>مرحباً، مقالة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%AF%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%84_%D9%85%D8%AB%D9%84%D8%AB%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="دوال مثلثية">دوال مثلثية</a></b> تخضع حاليا <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AC%D8%B9%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B2%D9%85%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1/%D8%AF%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%84_%D9%85%D8%AB%D9%84%D8%AB%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="ويكيبيديا:مراجعة الزملاء/دوال مثلثية">لمراجعة الزملاء</a>. بانتظار مشاركة المُهتمين.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Abdeldjalil09" title="مستخدم:Abdeldjalil09">Abdeldjalil09</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Abdeldjalil09" title="نقاش المستخدم:Abdeldjalil09">نقاش</a>) 21:53، 20 فبراير 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Adil Faouzi|2020-02-24T23:41:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Mustafa|2020-02-25T14:42:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|MichelBakni|2020-02-27T13:01:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Abu aamir|2020-02-27T13:36:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u062c\u0645\u0627\u0644|2020-02-28T09:30:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0635\u0627\u0644\u062d|2020-03-04T21:27:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0639\u0644\u0627\u0621|2020-03-05T19:19:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0639\u0644\u0627\u0621|2020-03-06T14:05:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0635\u0627\u0644\u062d|2020-03-07T01:35:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0635\u0627\u0644\u062d|2020-03-07T01:35:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z|1&quot;,&quot;c|\u0623\u0628\u0648 \u0647\u0634\u0627\u0645|2020-03-09T14:03:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|MichelBakni|2020-03-09T21:14:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|MichelBakni|2020-03-09T21:40:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0635\u0627\u0644\u062d|2020-03-11T19:55:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|MichelBakni|2020-03-11T22:08:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u062c\u0645\u0627\u0644|2020-03-12T05:23:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|MichelBakni|2020-03-12T21:18:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Mustafa|2020-03-13T12:10:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u062c\u0645\u0627\u0644|2020-03-14T11:26:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|MichelBakni|2020-03-14T17:20:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Abdeldjalil09|2020-03-14T20:15:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Ahayad38|2020-03-15T00:38:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0641\u064a\u0635\u0644|2020-03-16T16:37:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Dr-Taher|2020-03-16T18:45:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0639\u0644\u0627\u0621|2020-03-16T19:43:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0641\u064a\u0635\u0644|2020-03-19T10:59:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0639\u0644\u0627\u0621|2020-03-19T16:10:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Ahayad38|2020-03-19T18:34:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0628\u0627\u0633\u0645|2020-03-19T19:01:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0635\u0627\u0644\u062d|2020-03-19T21:28:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2020-03-21T11:52:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|FShbib|2020-03-21T18:23:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0632\u0643\u0631\u064a\u0627|2020-03-24T01:54:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|MichelBakni|2020-03-24T07:23:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0634\u064a\u0645\u0627\u0621|2020-03-25T07:42:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0639\u0644\u0627\u0621|2020-03-26T18:29:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0645\u063a\u064a\u062b|2020-03-26T19:22:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Dr-Taher|2020-03-27T05:37:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0628\u0627\u0633\u0645|2020-03-27T14:59:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0635\u0627\u0644\u062d|2020-03-29T13:34:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|FShbib|2020-03-31T00:14:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0639\u0644\u0627\u0621|2020-04-01T02:44:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u062c\u0627\u0631 \u0627\u0644\u0644\u0647|2020-04-01T19:50:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0628\u0627\u0633\u0645|2020-04-01T23:07:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Abdeldjalil09&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Adil Faouzi|2020-02-24T23:41:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>أهلاً جميعاً، قائمة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A3%D8%B9%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%84_%D8%AC%D9%8A%D9%83_%D8%AC%D9%8A%D9%84%D9%86%D9%87%D8%A7%D9%84" title="أعمال جيك جيلنهال">أعمال جيك جيلنهال</a></b> مُرشَّحة لنيل وسم القائمة المُختارة<b> <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%82%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%85_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AE%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A9/%D8%A3%D8%B9%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%84_%D8%AC%D9%8A%D9%83_%D8%AC%D9%8A%D9%84%D9%86%D9%87%D8%A7%D9%84" title="ويكيبيديا:ترشيحات القوائم المختارة/أعمال جيك جيلنهال">هذه الصفحة</a></b>--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Adil_Faouzi" title="مستخدم:Adil Faouzi"><span style="color:#32CD32;font-size: 18pt;"><span class="script-arabic">عادل فوزي</span></span></a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Adil_Faouzi" title="نقاش المستخدم:Adil Faouzi"><span style="color:#FFBF00;font-size:14px;font-family:andalus;"><i><b>راسلني</b></i></span></a>) 23:41، 24 فبراير 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Adil Faouzi|2020-02-24T23:41:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-02-24T23:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Adil Faouzi&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Adil Faouzi|2020-02-24T23:41:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Mustafa|2020-02-25T14:42:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مرحباً، كتبت خاطرةً عن <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Mustafa/%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA%D9%82%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%A8_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AC%D8%AF%D8%AF" title="مستخدم:Mustafa/استقطاب الجدد">استقطاب القادمين الجدد</a>. --《  <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Mustafa" title="مستخدم:Mustafa"><span style="color:#1E824C;font-size:80%;"><span style="font-size:150%;font-family:Reem Kufi;">مصطفى</span></span></a></b> <sup><small><b>(</b></small><strong><b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Mustafa" title="نقاش المستخدم:Mustafa">✉</a></b></strong></sup><sup><small><b>)</b></small></sup> 14:42، 25 فبراير 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mustafa|2020-02-25T14:42:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-02-25T14:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mustafa&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Mustafa|2020-02-25T14:42:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MichelBakni|2020-02-27T13:01:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مقالة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%82%D8%B7%D9%8A%D9%81_(%D9%85%D8%AD%D8%A7%D9%81%D8%B8%D8%A9)" title="القطيف (محافظة)">القطيف (محافظة)</a></b> تجاوزت مرحلة مراجعة الزملاء، وهي الآن في مرحلة التصويت لنيل وسم المقالة المختارة في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%82%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AE%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A9/%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%82%D8%B7%D9%8A%D9%81_(%D9%85%D8%AD%D8%A7%D9%81%D8%B8%D8%A9)" title="ويكيبيديا:ترشيحات المقالات المختارة/القطيف (محافظة)">هذه الصفحة</a></b>--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:MichelBakni" title="مستخدم:MichelBakni">MichelBakni</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:MichelBakni" title="نقاش المستخدم:MichelBakni">نقاش</a>) 13:01، 27 فبراير 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MichelBakni|2020-02-27T13:01:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-02-27T13:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MichelBakni&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MichelBakni|2020-02-27T13:01:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Abu aamir|2020-02-27T13:36:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مرحباً بكم، مقالة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AC%D8%B9%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B2%D9%85%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1/%D9%8A%D9%88%D8%B3%D9%81_%D8%A8%D9%86_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%84%D9%87_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%A8%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%87%D9%8A%D9%85" title="ويكيبيديا:مراجعة الزملاء/يوسف بن عبد الله الإبراهيم">يوسف بن عبد الله الإبراهيم</a></b> هي الآن في مرحلة مراجعة الزملاء لترشيحها مقالةً جيدة، يُرجى من الزملاء مراجعتها بما تيسّر. <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Abu_aamir" title="مستخدم:Abu aamir">Abu aamir</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Abu_aamir" title="نقاش المستخدم:Abu aamir">نقاش</a>) 13:36، 27 فبراير 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Abu aamir|2020-02-27T13:36:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-02-27T13:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Abu aamir&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Abu aamir|2020-02-27T13:36:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد جمال|2020-02-28T09:30:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>السلام عليكم، <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%85%D8%A9_%D8%B1%D8%A4%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%A1_%D9%88%D8%B2%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%A1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B1%D8%AF%D9%86" title="قائمة رؤساء وزراء الأردن">قائمة رؤساء وزراء الأردن</a></b> في مرحلة الترشيح لوسم القائمة المختارة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%82%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%85_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AE%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A9/%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%85%D8%A9_%D8%B1%D8%A4%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%A1_%D9%88%D8%B2%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%A1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B1%D8%AF%D9%86" title="ويكيبيديا:ترشيحات القوائم المختارة/قائمة رؤساء وزراء الأردن">هُنا</a></b>.--<span style="font-family: DecoType Naskh Variants ; font-size: 20px; text-shadow:gold 0.2em 0.1em 0.2em;"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%AC%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%84" title="مستخدم:محمد جمال"><span style="color:#E62020;"><b>محمد جمال</b></span></a> <sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%AC%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%84" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد جمال"><b>راسلني</b></a></sup></span> 09:30، 28 فبراير 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u062c\u0645\u0627\u0644|2020-02-28T09:30:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-02-28T09:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u062c\u0645\u0627\u0644&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|محمد جمال|2020-02-28T09:30:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|صالح|2020-03-04T21:27:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مرحبًا، هناك نقاش جار في ميدان التقنية، حول <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86/%D8%AA%D9%82%D9%86%D9%8A%D8%A9#تحديث_رسالة_الترحيب_والتوقيع_المُضمّن" title="ويكيبيديا:الميدان/تقنية">تحديث رسالة الترحيب والتوقيع المُضمّن</a></b>، أرجو من المهتمين المشاركة. تحياتي للجميع. -- <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B5%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:صالح">صالح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B5%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:صالح">نقاش</a>) 21:27، 4 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0635\u0627\u0644\u062d|2020-03-04T21:27:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-04T21:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0635\u0627\u0644\u062d&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|صالح|2020-03-04T21:27:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86/%D8%B3%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%AA#سياسة_حماية_الأطفال" title="ويكيبيديا:الميدان/سياسات"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|علاء|2020-03-05T19:19:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>سياسة مُقترحة لحماية الأطفال</a></b>. بانتظار مُشاركة المجتمع. تحياتي <b>--</b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B9%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1" title="مستخدم:علاء"><span style="color:#000000; font-size:21px; font-family:traditional arabic;"><b>علاء</b></span></a> <sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B9%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1" title="نقاش المستخدم:علاء"><span style="color:#8A0808; font-size:18px; font-family:traditional arabic;"><b>راسلني</b></span></a></sup> 19:19، 5 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0639\u0644\u0627\u0621|2020-03-05T19:19:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-05T19:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0639\u0644\u0627\u0621&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|علاء|2020-03-05T19:19:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|علاء|2020-03-06T14:05:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مرحبًا، <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%AC%D8%A7%D8%A6%D8%B2%D8%A9_%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%AB_%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%AA%D9%84_%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%AA%D8%B1_%D9%81%D9%8A_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%B6%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%AA" title="جائزة روث ليتل ساتر في الرياضيات">جائزة روث ليتل ساتر في الرياضيات</a></b> <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%82%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%85_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AE%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A9/%D8%AC%D8%A7%D8%A6%D8%B2%D8%A9_%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%AB_%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%AA%D9%84_%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%AA%D8%B1_%D9%81%D9%8A_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%B6%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%AA" title="ويكيبيديا:ترشيحات القوائم المختارة/جائزة روث ليتل ساتر في الرياضيات">مرشحة لنيل وسم قائمة مختارة</a>. بانتظار مُشاركة المهتمين. تحياتي <b>--</b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B9%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1" title="مستخدم:علاء"><span style="color:#000000; font-size:21px; font-family:traditional arabic;"><b>علاء</b></span></a> <sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B9%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1" title="نقاش المستخدم:علاء"><span style="color:#8A0808; font-size:18px; font-family:traditional arabic;"><b>راسلني</b></span></a></sup> 14:05، 6 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0639\u0644\u0627\u0621|2020-03-06T14:05:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-06T14:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0639\u0644\u0627\u0621&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|علاء|2020-03-06T14:05:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|صالح|2020-03-07T01:35:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مرحبًا جميعًا، مقالة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B0%D8%A8%D8%AD%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%82%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%A9" title="مذبحة القلعة">مذبحة القلعة</a></b> من تطوير الزميل <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%A5%D8%B3%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%85" title="مستخدم:إسلام">إسلام</a>، تخضع لمراجعة الزملاء لنيل وسم مقالة جيدة في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AC%D8%B9%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B2%D9%85%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1/%D9%85%D8%B0%D8%A8%D8%AD%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%82%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%A9" title="ويكيبيديا:مراجعة الزملاء/مذبحة القلعة">هذه الصفحة</a></b>. -- <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B5%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:صالح">صالح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B5%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:صالح">نقاش</a>) 01:35، 7 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0635\u0627\u0644\u062d|2020-03-07T01:35:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-07T01:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0635\u0627\u0644\u062d&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|صالح|2020-03-07T01:35:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|صالح|2020-03-07T01:35:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z|1"></span>مرحبًا جميعًا، مقالة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A7%D9%86%D8%B3%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%A8_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%85%D9%84%D9%83%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AA%D8%AD%D8%AF%D8%A9_%D9%85%D9%86_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AA%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D9%88%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%A8%D9%8A" title="انسحاب المملكة المتحدة من الاتحاد الأوروبي">انسحاب المملكة المتحدة من الاتحاد الأوروبي</a></b> من تطوير الزميل <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B9%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%86" title="مستخدم:علاء الدين">علاء الدين</a>، تخضع لمراجعة الزملاء لنيل وسم مقالة مختارة في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AC%D8%B9%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B2%D9%85%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1/%D8%A7%D9%86%D8%B3%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%A8_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%85%D9%84%D9%83%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AA%D8%AD%D8%AF%D8%A9_%D9%85%D9%86_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AA%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D9%88%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%A8%D9%8A" title="ويكيبيديا:مراجعة الزملاء/انسحاب المملكة المتحدة من الاتحاد الأوروبي">هذه الصفحة</a></b>. -- <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B5%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:صالح">صالح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B5%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:صالح">نقاش</a>) 01:35، 7 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0635\u0627\u0644\u062d|2020-03-07T01:35:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z|1&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-07T01:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0635\u0627\u0644\u062d&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|صالح|2020-03-07T01:35:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z|1"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|أبو هشام|2020-03-09T14:03:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مرحباً، أدعو جميع المحررين إلى توسيع <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%AA%D8%B5%D9%86%D9%8A%D9%81:%D8%AC%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%B9_%D9%85%D9%82%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8%D8%B0%D9%88%D8%B1" title="تصنيف:جميع مقالات البذور">بذرة</a> من اختيارهم وحذف قالب بذرة منها، والمُداومة على هذا العمل لعلنا نتمكن من تقليل نسبة البذور في الموسوعة. (وشكرا لكم) --<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%A3%D8%A8%D9%88_%D9%87%D8%B4%D8%A7%D9%85" title="مستخدم:أبو هشام">أبو هشام</a> <sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%A3%D8%A8%D9%88_%D9%87%D8%B4%D8%A7%D9%85" title="نقاش المستخدم:أبو هشام">«نقاش»</a></sup> 14:03، 9 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0623\u0628\u0648 \u0647\u0634\u0627\u0645|2020-03-09T14:03:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-09T14:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0623\u0628\u0648 \u0647\u0634\u0627\u0645&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|أبو هشام|2020-03-09T14:03:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MichelBakni|2020-03-09T21:14:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مقالة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%B4%D8%A8%D9%83%D8%A9_%D8%AE%D8%A7%D8%B5%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%B6%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="شبكة خاصة افتراضية">شبكة خاصة افتراضية</a></b> تجاوزت مرحلة مراجعة الزملاء، وهي الآن في مرحلة التصويت لنيل وسم المقالة الجيدة في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%82%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AC%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A9/%D8%B4%D8%A8%D9%83%D8%A9_%D8%AE%D8%A7%D8%B5%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%B6%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="ويكيبيديا:ترشيحات المقالات الجيدة/شبكة خاصة افتراضية">هذه الصفحة</a></b>--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:MichelBakni" title="مستخدم:MichelBakni">MichelBakni</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:MichelBakni" title="نقاش المستخدم:MichelBakni">نقاش</a>) 21:14، 9 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MichelBakni|2020-03-09T21:14:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-09T21:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MichelBakni&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MichelBakni|2020-03-09T21:14:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MichelBakni|2020-03-09T21:40:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مقالة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A3%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%A7%D8%A8_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%88_%D9%81%D9%8A_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A8%D9%8A" title="ألعاب الفيديو في العالم العربي">ألعاب الفيديو في العالم العربي</a></b> تجاوزت مرحلة مراجعة الزملاء، وهي الآن في مرحلة التصويت لنيل وسم المقالة الجيدة في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%82%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AC%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A9/%D8%A3%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%A7%D8%A8_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%88_%D9%81%D9%8A_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A8%D9%8A" title="ويكيبيديا:ترشيحات المقالات الجيدة/ألعاب الفيديو في العالم العربي">هذه الصفحة</a></b>--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:MichelBakni" title="مستخدم:MichelBakni">MichelBakni</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:MichelBakni" title="نقاش المستخدم:MichelBakni">نقاش</a>) 21:40، 9 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MichelBakni|2020-03-09T21:40:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-09T21:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MichelBakni&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MichelBakni|2020-03-09T21:40:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|صالح|2020-03-11T19:55:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مرحبًا جميعًا، مقالة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A5%D9%8A%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%B3_%D8%AF%D9%88_%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%BA%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%86%D8%BA" class="mw-redirect" title="إيناس دو بورغوانغ">إيناس دو بورغوانغ</a></b> من تطوير الزميل <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Adil_Faouzi" title="مستخدم:Adil Faouzi">عادل فوزي</a>، تخضع لمراجعة الزملاء لنيل وسم مقالة جيّدة في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AC%D8%B9%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B2%D9%85%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1/%D8%A5%D9%8A%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%B3_%D8%AF%D9%88_%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%BA%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%86%D8%BA" class="mw-redirect" title="ويكيبيديا:مراجعة الزملاء/إيناس دو بورغوانغ">هذه الصفحة</a></b>. -- <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B5%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:صالح">صالح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B5%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:صالح">نقاش</a>) 19:55، 11 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0635\u0627\u0644\u062d|2020-03-11T19:55:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-11T19:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0635\u0627\u0644\u062d&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|صالح|2020-03-11T19:55:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MichelBakni|2020-03-11T22:08:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مقالة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A3%D9%84%D9%88%D8%B5%D9%88%D8%B1" title="ألوصور">ألوصور</a></b> تجاوزت مرحلة مراجعة الزملاء، وهي الآن في مرحلة التصويت لنيل وسم المقالة المختارة في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%82%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AE%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A9/%D8%A3%D9%84%D9%88%D8%B5%D9%88%D8%B1" title="ويكيبيديا:ترشيحات المقالات المختارة/ألوصور">هذه الصفحة</a></b>--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:MichelBakni" title="مستخدم:MichelBakni">MichelBakni</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:MichelBakni" title="نقاش المستخدم:MichelBakni">نقاش</a>) 22:08، 11 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MichelBakni|2020-03-11T22:08:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-11T22:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MichelBakni&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MichelBakni|2020-03-11T22:08:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد جمال|2020-03-12T05:23:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>السلام عليكم، <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%85%D8%A9_%D8%B1%D8%A4%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%A1_%D9%88%D8%B2%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%A1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B1%D8%AF%D9%86" title="قائمة رؤساء وزراء الأردن">قائمة رؤساء وزراء الأردن</a></b> في مرحلة الترشيح لوسم القائمة المختارة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%82%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%85_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AE%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A9/%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%85%D8%A9_%D8%B1%D8%A4%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%A1_%D9%88%D8%B2%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%A1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B1%D8%AF%D9%86" title="ويكيبيديا:ترشيحات القوائم المختارة/قائمة رؤساء وزراء الأردن">هُنا</a></b>.--<span style="font-family: DecoType Naskh Variants ; font-size: 20px; text-shadow:gold 0.2em 0.1em 0.2em;"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%AC%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%84" title="مستخدم:محمد جمال"><span style="color:#E62020;"><b>محمد جمال</b></span></a> <sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%AC%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%84" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد جمال"><b>نقاش</b></a></sup></span> 05:23، 12 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u062c\u0645\u0627\u0644|2020-03-12T05:23:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-12T05:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u062c\u0645\u0627\u0644&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|محمد جمال|2020-03-12T05:23:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MichelBakni|2020-03-12T21:18:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مقالة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%8A%D9%88%D8%B3%D9%81_%D8%A8%D9%86_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%84%D9%87_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%A8%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%87%D9%8A%D9%85" title="يوسف بن عبد الله الإبراهيم">يوسف بن عبد الله الإبراهيم</a></b> تجاوزت مرحلة مراجعة الزملاء، وهي الآن في مرحلة التصويت لنيل وسم المقالة الجيدة في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%82%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AC%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A9/%D9%8A%D9%88%D8%B3%D9%81_%D8%A8%D9%86_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%84%D9%87_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%A8%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%87%D9%8A%D9%85" title="ويكيبيديا:ترشيحات المقالات الجيدة/يوسف بن عبد الله الإبراهيم">هذه الصفحة</a></b>--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:MichelBakni" title="مستخدم:MichelBakni">MichelBakni</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:MichelBakni" title="نقاش المستخدم:MichelBakni">نقاش</a>) 21:18، 12 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MichelBakni|2020-03-12T21:18:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-12T21:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MichelBakni&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MichelBakni|2020-03-12T21:18:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Mustafa|2020-03-13T12:10:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مرحباً! <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%A6%D8%B1%D8%A9" title="دائرة">مقالة دائرة</a></b> في مرحلة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AC%D8%B9%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B2%D9%85%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1/%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%A6%D8%B1%D8%A9" title="ويكيبيديا:مراجعة الزملاء/دائرة">مُراجعة الزملاء للمقالات المختارة</a></b>. بانتظارِ آرائكم ومُلاحظاتِكم.--《  <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Mustafa" title="مستخدم:Mustafa"><span style="color:#1E824C;font-size:80%;"><span style="font-size:150%;font-family:Reem Kufi;">مصطفى</span></span></a></b> <sup><small><b>(</b></small><big><b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Mustafa" title="نقاش المستخدم:Mustafa">✉</a></b></big></sup><sup><small><b>)</b></small></sup> 12:10، 13 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mustafa|2020-03-13T12:10:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-13T12:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mustafa&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Mustafa|2020-03-13T12:10:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد جمال|2020-03-14T11:26:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>السلام عليكم، مقالة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%8A_%D8%A3%D8%A8%D9%88_%D9%86%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%B1" title="علي أبو نوار">علي أبو نوار</a></b> تخضع حاليًّا <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AC%D8%B9%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B2%D9%85%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1/%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%8A_%D8%A3%D8%A8%D9%88_%D9%86%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%B1" title="ويكيبيديا:مراجعة الزملاء/علي أبو نوار">لمراجعة الزملاء هُنا</a></b> لتنال وسم المقالة الجيدة.--<span style="font-family: DecoType Naskh Variants ; font-size: 20px; text-shadow:gold 0.2em 0.1em 0.2em;"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%AC%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%84" title="مستخدم:محمد جمال"><span style="color:#E62020;"><b>محمد جمال</b></span></a> <sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%AC%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%84" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد جمال"><b>نقاش</b></a></sup></span> 11:26، 14 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u062c\u0645\u0627\u0644|2020-03-14T11:26:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-14T11:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u062c\u0645\u0627\u0644&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|محمد جمال|2020-03-14T11:26:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MichelBakni|2020-03-14T17:20:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مقالة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A5%D9%86%D8%AC%D9%8A%D9%84_%D8%AA%D9%88%D9%85%D8%A7" title="إنجيل توما">إنجيل توما</a></b> تجاوزت مرحلة مراجعة الزملاء، وهي الآن في مرحلة التصويت لنيل وسم المقالة المختارة في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%82%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AE%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A9/%D8%A5%D9%86%D8%AC%D9%8A%D9%84_%D8%AA%D9%88%D9%85%D8%A7" title="ويكيبيديا:ترشيحات المقالات المختارة/إنجيل توما">هذه الصفحة</a></b>--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:MichelBakni" title="مستخدم:MichelBakni">MichelBakni</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:MichelBakni" title="نقاش المستخدم:MichelBakni">نقاش</a>) 17:20، 14 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MichelBakni|2020-03-14T17:20:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-14T17:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MichelBakni&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MichelBakni|2020-03-14T17:20:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Abdeldjalil09|2020-03-14T20:15:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مساء الخير، أطلب كل من المتخصصين في الهندسة الكهربائية، والاتصالات، والاعلام الالي، ومسح الأراضي، مساعدتي في تطوير مقالة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%AF%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%84_%D9%85%D8%AB%D9%84%D8%AB%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="دوال مثلثية">دوال مثلثية</a></b> بأخذ بعض المعلومات من <a class="external text" href="https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%AA%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%A8%D8%B9_%D9%85%D8%AB%D9%84%D8%AB%D8%A7%D8%AA%DB%8C#%DA%A9%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A8%D8%B1%D8%AF%7Cالنسخة">الفارسية المختارة (قسم "التطبيقات")</a> أو إضافة معلومات مهمة المفقودة، لترشيحها كمقالة مختارة، تحياتي.<br/>إذا رغب أحدكم أن يُدخِل إضافات جديدة إلى المقالة، أدخلوها في <a class="external text" href="https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Abdeldjalil09/%D9%85%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%A8#">ملعبي</a>، تحياتي. -- <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Abdeldjalil09" title="مستخدم:Abdeldjalil09">Abdeldjalil09</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Abdeldjalil09" title="نقاش المستخدم:Abdeldjalil09">نقاش</a>) 20:15، 14 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Abdeldjalil09|2020-03-14T20:15:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-14T20:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Abdeldjalil09&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Abdeldjalil09|2020-03-14T20:15:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ahayad38|2020-03-15T00:38:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>لقد اقترحت اقتراح في <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86/%D8%A7%D9%82%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AA" title="ويكيبيديا:الميدان/اقتراحات">الميدان/اقتراحات</a> لتعديل الصلاحيات في الموسوعة يرجى المشاركة لمن يهمه الأمر.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Ahayad38" title="مستخدم:Ahayad38">Ahayad38</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Ahayad38" title="نقاش المستخدم:Ahayad38">نقاش</a>) 00:38، 15 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ahayad38|2020-03-15T00:38:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-15T00:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ahayad38&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ahayad38|2020-03-15T00:38:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%85%D8%A9_%D8%A3%D9%87%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%81_%D8%B2%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AA%D8%A7%D9%86_%D8%A5%D8%A8%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%87%D9%8A%D9%85%D9%88%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AA%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AF%D9%88%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="قائمة أهداف زلاتان إبراهيموفيتش الدولية"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|فيصل|2020-03-16T16:37:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>قائمة أهداف زلاتان إبراهيموفيتش الدولية</a></b> مُرشحة لوسم القائمة المختارة. بانتظار رأيكم في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%82%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%85_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AE%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A9/%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%85%D8%A9_%D8%A3%D9%87%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%81_%D8%B2%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AA%D8%A7%D9%86_%D8%A5%D8%A8%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%87%D9%8A%D9%85%D9%88%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AA%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AF%D9%88%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="ويكيبيديا:ترشيحات القوائم المختارة/قائمة أهداف زلاتان إبراهيموفيتش الدولية">هذه الصفحة</a></b>. تحياتي.--<span style="font-family: Andalus; font-size: 18px; text-shadow: silver 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em;"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%B5%D9%84" title="مستخدم:فيصل"><span style="color:FF000000;"><b>فيصل </b></span></a><sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%B5%D9%84" title="نقاش المستخدم:فيصل"><b>(راسلني)</b></a></sup></span> 16:37، 16 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0641\u064a\u0635\u0644|2020-03-16T16:37:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-16T16:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0641\u064a\u0635\u0644&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|فيصل|2020-03-16T16:37:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Dr-Taher|2020-03-16T18:45:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته. هناك تصويت حول <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%AA%D8%B5%D9%88%D9%8A%D8%AA/%D8%B3%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%AA/%D8%AA%D8%B9%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%84_%D8%B4%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%B7_%D8%A5%D8%B2%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A9_%D8%B5%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AD%D9%8A%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%B1%D9%88%D9%82%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%B7" title="ويكيبيديا:تصويت/سياسات/تعديل شروط إزالة صلاحية البيروقراط"><b>تعديل شروط إزالة صلاحية البيروقراط</b></a>، أدعوكم للمشاركة بما ترونه مناسبًا. شكرا لكم. --<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Dr-Taher" title="مستخدم:Dr-Taher">Dr-Taher</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Dr-Taher" title="نقاش المستخدم:Dr-Taher">نقاش</a>) 18:45، 16 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Dr-Taher|2020-03-16T18:45:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-16T18:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Dr-Taher&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Dr-Taher|2020-03-16T18:45:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|علاء|2020-03-16T19:43:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>نُعلن تكوين <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B4%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%B9_%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A_%D8%B7%D8%A8/%D9%81%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%82_%D8%B9%D9%85%D9%84_%D9%83%D9%88%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AF-19" title="ويكيبيديا:مشروع ويكي طب/فريق عمل كوفيد-19">فريق عمل كوفيد-19</a></b> (مرتبط بجائحة فيروس كورونا 2019). بانتظار مُشاركة المهتمين. تحياتي <b>--</b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B9%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1" title="مستخدم:علاء"><span style="color:#000000; font-size:21px; font-family:traditional arabic;"><b>علاء</b></span></a> <sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B9%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1" title="نقاش المستخدم:علاء"><span style="color:#8A0808; font-size:18px; font-family:traditional arabic;"><b>راسلني</b></span></a></sup> 19:43، 16 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0639\u0644\u0627\u0621|2020-03-16T19:43:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-16T19:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0639\u0644\u0627\u0621&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|علاء|2020-03-16T19:43:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%85%D8%A9_%D8%A3%D9%87%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%81_%D8%A8%D9%8A%D9%86%D9%8A_%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%83%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%AB%D9%8A_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AF%D9%88%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="قائمة أهداف بيني ماكارثي الدولية"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|فيصل|2020-03-19T10:59:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>قائمة أهداف بيني ماكارثي الدولية</a></b> مُرشحة لوسم القائمة المختارة. بانتظار رأيكم في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%82%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%85_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AE%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A9/%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%85%D8%A9_%D8%A3%D9%87%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%81_%D8%A8%D9%8A%D9%86%D9%8A_%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%83%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%AB%D9%8A_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AF%D9%88%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="ويكيبيديا:ترشيحات القوائم المختارة/قائمة أهداف بيني ماكارثي الدولية">هذه الصفحة</a></b>. تحياتي.--<span style="font-family: Andalus; font-size: 18px; text-shadow: silver 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em;"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%B5%D9%84" title="مستخدم:فيصل"><span style="color:FF000000;"><b>فيصل </b></span></a><sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%B5%D9%84" title="نقاش المستخدم:فيصل"><b>(راسلني)</b></a></sup></span> 10:59، 19 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0641\u064a\u0635\u0644|2020-03-19T10:59:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-19T10:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0641\u064a\u0635\u0644&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|فيصل|2020-03-19T10:59:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86/%D8%AA%D9%82%D9%86%D9%8A%D8%A9#طلب_وضع_إعلان_لمسجلي_الدخول_فقط_حول_كوفيد-19" title="ويكيبيديا:الميدان/تقنية"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|علاء|2020-03-19T16:10:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>طلب وضع إعلان محلي</a></b> بحاجة لمشاركةٍ مجتمعية سريعة. تحياتي <b>--</b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B9%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1" title="مستخدم:علاء"><span style="color:#000000; font-size:21px; font-family:traditional arabic;"><b>علاء</b></span></a> <sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B9%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1" title="نقاش المستخدم:علاء"><span style="color:#8A0808; font-size:18px; font-family:traditional arabic;"><b>راسلني</b></span></a></sup> 16:10، 19 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0639\u0644\u0627\u0621|2020-03-19T16:10:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-19T16:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0639\u0644\u0627\u0621&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|علاء|2020-03-19T16:10:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ahayad38|2020-03-19T18:34:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>هناك اقتراح خاص <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B4%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%B9_%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A_%D8%B7%D8%A8/%D9%81%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%82_%D8%B9%D9%85%D9%84_%D9%83%D9%88%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AF-19" title="ويكيبيديا:مشروع ويكي طب/فريق عمل كوفيد-19">بفريق عمل كوفيد-19</a> من يهمه الأمر يرجى المشاركة <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86/%D8%A7%D9%82%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AA" title="ويكيبيديا:الميدان/اقتراحات">هنا</a>.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Ahayad38" title="مستخدم:Ahayad38">Ahayad38</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Ahayad38" title="نقاش المستخدم:Ahayad38">نقاش</a>) 18:34، 19 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ahayad38|2020-03-19T18:34:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-19T18:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ahayad38&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ahayad38|2020-03-19T18:34:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%AA%D8%B5%D9%88%D9%8A%D8%AA/%D8%B3%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%AA/%D8%B3%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%A9_%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%8A%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B7%D9%81%D8%A7%D9%84" title="ويكيبيديا:تصويت/سياسات/سياسة حماية الأطفال"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|باسم|2020-03-19T19:01:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>سياسة حماية الأطفال تحت التصويت الآن</a></b>، الرجاء المُشاركة بما ترونه مُناسبًا--<span style="font-family: Andalus; font-size: 18px; text-shadow: silver 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em;"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B3%D9%85" title="مستخدم:باسم"><span style="color:#004225;"><b>باسم</b></span></a><sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B3%D9%85" title="نقاش المستخدم:باسم"><b>راسلني (☎)</b></a></sup></span> 19:01، 19 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0628\u0627\u0633\u0645|2020-03-19T19:01:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-19T19:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0628\u0627\u0633\u0645&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|باسم|2020-03-19T19:01:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|صالح|2020-03-19T21:28:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مرحبًا جميعًا، مقالة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AF%D8%AB%D8%A9_%D8%B4%D8%A7%D9%88%D8%BA%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%86" title="حادثة شاوغوان">حادثة شاوغوان</a></b> من تطوير الزميل <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%A5%D8%B3%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%85" title="مستخدم:إسلام">إسلام</a>، تجاوزت مرحلة مراجعة الزملاء، وهي الآن في مرحلة التصويت لنيل وسم المقالة الجيّدة في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%82%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AC%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A9/%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AF%D8%AB%D8%A9_%D8%B4%D8%A7%D9%88%D8%BA%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%86" title="ويكيبيديا:ترشيحات المقالات الجيدة/حادثة شاوغوان">هذه الصفحة</a></b>. -- <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B5%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:صالح">صالح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B5%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:صالح">نقاش</a>) 21:28، 19 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0635\u0627\u0644\u062d|2020-03-19T21:28:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-19T21:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0635\u0627\u0644\u062d&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|صالح|2020-03-19T21:28:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2020-03-21T11:52:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>دعوة للمشاركة حول <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86/%D8%AA%D9%82%D9%86%D9%8A%D8%A9#إضافة_مفتاح_التصنيف_لصفحات_تصنيفات_البلدان_والجنسيات" title="ويكيبيديا:الميدان/تقنية">إضافة مفتاح التصنيف لصفحات تصنيفات البلدان والجنسيات</a>.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">نقاش</a>) 11:52، 21 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2020-03-21T11:52:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-21T11:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2020-03-21T11:52:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|FShbib|2020-03-21T18:23:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مرحبًا.. رسالة للمشاركين في <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%A8%D9%82%D8%A9_%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%B9%D9%88%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="ويكيبيديا:مسابقة ويكيبيديا السعودية">مسابقة ويكيبيديا السعودية</a>: قررت لجنة التحكيم تمديد فترة التقييم إلى 1 أبريل بإذن الله، ولأي استفسار؛ الرجاء طرحه <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%A8%D9%82%D8%A9_%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%B9%D9%88%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A9#تمديد_فترة_التقييم" title="نقاش ويكيبيديا:مسابقة ويكيبيديا السعودية"><b>هنا</b></a>.. تحياتي للجميع.. --<b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:FShbib" title="مستخدم:FShbib">شبيب..</a></b><sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:FShbib" title="نقاش المستخدم:FShbib">ناقشني</a></sup> 18:23، 21 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|FShbib|2020-03-21T18:23:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-21T18:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;FShbib&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|FShbib|2020-03-21T18:23:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86/%D8%AA%D9%82%D9%86%D9%8A%D8%A9#قريبا:_واجهة_جديدة_لدمج_التعديلات_المتضاربة" title="ويكيبيديا:الميدان/تقنية"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|زكريا|2020-03-24T01:54:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>واجهة جديدة لدمج التعديلات المتضاربة</a> --<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B2%D9%83%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%A7" title="نقاش المستخدم:زكريا">زكريا</a> 01:54، 24 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0632\u0643\u0631\u064a\u0627|2020-03-24T01:54:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-24T01:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0632\u0643\u0631\u064a\u0627&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|زكريا|2020-03-24T01:54:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86/%D8%B3%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%AA#نقاش_حول_سياسة_تسمية_جديدة_في_الموسوعة" title="ويكيبيديا:الميدان/سياسات"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MichelBakni|2020-03-24T07:23:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>نقاش جارٍ</a></b> في ميدان السياسات حول سياسة تسمية مقالات جديدة في الموسوعة.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:MichelBakni" title="مستخدم:MichelBakni">MichelBakni</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:MichelBakni" title="نقاش المستخدم:MichelBakni">نقاش</a>) 07:23، 24 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MichelBakni|2020-03-24T07:23:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-24T07:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MichelBakni&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MichelBakni|2020-03-24T07:23:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|شيماء|2020-03-25T07:42:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span> مقالة <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%AE%D9%8A%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%86_%D8%A8%D8%B1%D8%A8%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%B3" title="خير الدين بربروس">خير الدين بربروس</a> من تطوير <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%A3%D8%B3%D8%A7%D9%85%D8%A9%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%B3%D9%8A" title="مستخدم:أسامةالفاروسي">الزميل أسامةالفاروسي</a> تخضع لمراجعة الزملاء لنيل وسم مقالة مختارة <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AC%D8%B9%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B2%D9%85%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1/%D8%AE%D9%8A%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%86_%D8%A8%D8%B1%D8%A8%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%B3" title="ويكيبيديا:مراجعة الزملاء/خير الدين بربروس">في هذه الصفحة</a>.<b>--</b> <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85%D8%A9:%D8%B4%D9%8A%D9%85%D8%A7%D8%A1" title="مستخدمة:شيماء"><span style="color:#FB607F; font-size:18px; font-family:traditional arabic;"><b>شَيْمَاء</b></span></a> <sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85%D8%A9:%D8%B4%D9%8A%D9%85%D8%A7%D8%A1" title="نقاش المستخدمة:شيماء"><span style="color:#98777B; font-size:15px; font-family:traditional arabic;"><b>ناقِشني</b></span></a></sup> 07:42، 25 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0634\u064a\u0645\u0627\u0621|2020-03-25T07:42:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-25T07:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0634\u064a\u0645\u0627\u0621&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|شيماء|2020-03-25T07:42:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%AA%D8%B5%D9%88%D9%8A%D8%AA/%D8%B3%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%AA/%D8%A5%D8%B9%D8%A7%D8%AF%D8%A9_%D8%B5%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%BA%D8%A9_%D8%B4%D8%A7%D9%85%D9%84%D8%A9_%D9%84%D8%B3%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%A9_%D9%85%D8%B4%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%B9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A" title="ويكيبيديا:تصويت/سياسات/إعادة صياغة شاملة لسياسة مشاريع الويكي"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|علاء|2020-03-26T18:29:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>سياسة مشاريع الويكي تحت التصويت الآن</a></b>، الرجاء المُشاركة بما ترونه مُناسبًا <b>--</b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B9%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1" title="مستخدم:علاء"><span style="color:#000000; font-size:21px; font-family:traditional arabic;"><b>علاء</b></span></a> <sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B9%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1" title="نقاش المستخدم:علاء"><span style="color:#8A0808; font-size:18px; font-family:traditional arabic;"><b>راسلني</b></span></a></sup> 18:29، 26 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0639\u0644\u0627\u0621|2020-03-26T18:29:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-26T18:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0639\u0644\u0627\u0621&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|علاء|2020-03-26T18:29:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|عبد المغيث|2020-03-26T19:22:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مرحبًا جميعًا، <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%85%D8%A9_%D8%A3%D9%87%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%81_%D9%83%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%86%D8%AA_%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%85%D8%A8%D8%B3%D9%8A_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AF%D9%88%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="قائمة أهداف كلينت ديمبسي الدولية">قائمة أهداف كلينت ديمبسي الدولية</a></b> مُرشحة لوسم القائمة المختارة. بانتظار رأيكم في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%82%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%85_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AE%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A9/%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%85%D8%A9_%D8%A3%D9%87%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%81_%D9%83%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%86%D8%AA_%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%85%D8%A8%D8%B3%D9%8A_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AF%D9%88%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="ويكيبيديا:ترشيحات القوائم المختارة/قائمة أهداف كلينت ديمبسي الدولية">هذه الصفحة</a></b>. شُكرًا. -- <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%BA%D9%8A%D8%AB" title="مستخدم:عبد المغيث">عبد المغيث</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%BA%D9%8A%D8%AB" title="نقاش المستخدم:عبد المغيث">نقاش</a>) 19:22، 26 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0645\u063a\u064a\u062b|2020-03-26T19:22:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-26T19:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0645\u063a\u064a\u062b&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|عبد المغيث|2020-03-26T19:22:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Dr-Taher|2020-03-27T05:37:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>السلام عليكم. دعوة لكل <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%AD%D8%B1%D8%B1%D9%88%D9%86" title="ويكيبيديا:محررون"><b>المحررين</b></a> النشطين للمساهمة في أعمال <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%81%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%82_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%87%D8%A7%D9%85_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AE%D8%A7%D8%B5%D8%A9" title="ويكيبيديا:فريق المهام الخاصة"><b>فريق المهام الخاصة</b></a> لمراجعة التعديلات المُعلَّقة لتحسين الموسوعة. أو للقيام بمراجعة <b>15 مقالة يوميا</b> من <a class="external text" href="https://ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D8%AE%D8%A7%D8%B5:%D8%B5%D9%81%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AC%D8%B9%D8%A9_%D9%82%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%85%D8%A9&amp;offset=20200326175643&amp;limit=100&amp;namespace=0"><b>هذه القائمة</b></a>. شكرا لكم.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Dr-Taher" title="مستخدم:Dr-Taher">Dr-Taher</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Dr-Taher" title="نقاش المستخدم:Dr-Taher">نقاش</a>) 05:37، 27 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Dr-Taher|2020-03-27T05:37:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-27T05:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Dr-Taher&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Dr-Taher|2020-03-27T05:37:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86/%D8%AA%D9%82%D9%86%D9%8A%D8%A9#انهيار_القوالب_في_المقالات_دون_سبب" title="ويكيبيديا:الميدان/تقنية"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|باسم|2020-03-27T14:59:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>هل هُناك من حلٍ نهائيٍّ لِمُشكلة القوالب المُضمَّنة</a></b>؟--<span style="font-family: Andalus; font-size: 18px; text-shadow: silver 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em;"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B3%D9%85" title="مستخدم:باسم"><span style="color:#004225;"><b>باسم</b></span></a><sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B3%D9%85" title="نقاش المستخدم:باسم"><b>راسلني (☎)</b></a></sup></span> 14:59، 27 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0628\u0627\u0633\u0645|2020-03-27T14:59:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-27T14:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0628\u0627\u0633\u0645&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|باسم|2020-03-27T14:59:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|صالح|2020-03-29T13:34:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مرحبًا جميعًا، مقالة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B0%D8%A8%D8%AD%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%82%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%A9" title="مذبحة القلعة">مذبحة القلعة</a></b> من تطوير الزميل <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%A5%D8%B3%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%85" title="مستخدم:إسلام">إسلام</a>، تجاوزت مرحلة مراجعة الزملاء، وهي الآن في مرحلة التصويت لنيل وسم المقالة الجيّدة في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%82%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AC%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A9/%D9%85%D8%B0%D8%A8%D8%AD%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%82%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%A9" title="ويكيبيديا:ترشيحات المقالات الجيدة/مذبحة القلعة">هذه الصفحة</a></b>. -- <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B5%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:صالح">صالح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B5%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:صالح">نقاش</a>) 13:34، 29 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0635\u0627\u0644\u062d|2020-03-29T13:34:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-29T13:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0635\u0627\u0644\u062d&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|صالح|2020-03-29T13:34:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|FShbib|2020-03-31T00:14:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>تم <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%A8%D9%82%D8%A9_%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%B9%D9%88%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A9/%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%86%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%A6%D8%AC" title="ويكيبيديا:مسابقة ويكيبيديا السعودية/النتائج">الإعلان عن نتائج مسابقة ويكيبيديا السعودية</a></b>.. تهانينا لجميع الفائزين، على أمل أن نراكم في مسابقات أخرى بإذن الله.. --<b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:FShbib" title="مستخدم:FShbib">شبيب..</a></b><sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:FShbib" title="نقاش المستخدم:FShbib">ناقشني</a></sup> 00:14، 31 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|FShbib|2020-03-31T00:14:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-31T00:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;FShbib&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|FShbib|2020-03-31T00:14:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86/%D9%85%D9%86%D9%88%D8%B9%D8%A7%D8%AA#أداة_الرد_في_صفحات_النقاش" title="ويكيبيديا:الميدان/منوعات"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|علاء|2020-04-01T02:44:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>أداة جديدة للرد في صفحات النقاش</a></b> سهلة ولطيفة، بانتظار تجربتكم لها والتعليق عبر الوصلة السابقة. تحياتي <b>--</b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B9%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1" title="مستخدم:علاء"><span style="color:#000000; font-size:21px; font-family:traditional arabic;"><b>علاء</b></span></a> <sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B9%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1" title="نقاش المستخدم:علاء"><span style="color:#8A0808; font-size:18px; font-family:traditional arabic;"><b>راسلني</b></span></a></sup> 02:44، 1 أبريل 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0639\u0644\u0627\u0621|2020-04-01T02:44:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-01T02:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0639\u0644\u0627\u0621&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|علاء|2020-04-01T02:44:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|جار الله|2020-04-01T19:50:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مرحبًا جميعًا، الزميل <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B5%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:صالح">صالح</a> <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%B1%D9%88%D9%82%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%B7%D9%8A%D9%88%D9%86/%D8%AA%D8%B5%D9%88%D9%8A%D8%AA/%D8%B5%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD" title="ويكيبيديا:بيروقراطيون/تصويت/صالح">مُرشح لصلاحية بيروقراط</a></b>، أرجو من الزملاء المشاركة في التصويت. تحياتي.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%AC%D8%A7%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%84%D9%87" title="مستخدم:جار الله">جار الله</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%AC%D8%A7%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%84%D9%87" title="نقاش المستخدم:جار الله">نقاش</a>) 19:50، 1 أبريل 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u062c\u0627\u0631 \u0627\u0644\u0644\u0647|2020-04-01T19:50:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-01T19:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u062c\u0627\u0631 \u0627\u0644\u0644\u0647&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|جار الله|2020-04-01T19:50:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|باسم|2020-04-01T23:07:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مقالة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%BA%D8%B2%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8%D8%AD%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%B3%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%A9_%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%89_%D8%AC%D8%B2%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AA%D9%88%D8%B3%D8%B7" title="الغزوات البحرية الإسلامية على جزر المتوسط">الغزوات البحرية الإسلامية على جزر المتوسط</a></b> تخضع <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AC%D8%B9%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B2%D9%85%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%BA%D8%B2%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8%D8%AD%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%B3%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%A9_%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%89_%D8%AC%D8%B2%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AA%D9%88%D8%B3%D8%B7" title="ويكيبيديا:مراجعة الزملاء/الغزوات البحرية الإسلامية على جزر المتوسط">لِمُراجعة الزُملاء</a></b>، أتمنى سماع مُلاحظاتكم--<span style="font-family: Andalus; font-size: 18px; text-shadow: silver 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em;"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B3%D9%85" title="مستخدم:باسم"><span style="color:#004225;"><b>باسم</b></span></a><sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B3%D9%85" title="نقاش المستخدم:باسم"><b>راسلني (☎)</b></a></sup></span> 23:07، 1 أبريل 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0628\u0627\u0633\u0645|2020-04-01T23:07:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-01T23:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0628\u0627\u0633\u0645&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|باسم|2020-04-01T23:07:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li></ol></div>
+<ol><li>مرحباً، مقالة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%AF%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%84_%D9%85%D8%AB%D9%84%D8%AB%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="دوال مثلثية">دوال مثلثية</a></b> تخضع حاليا <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AC%D8%B9%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B2%D9%85%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1/%D8%AF%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%84_%D9%85%D8%AB%D9%84%D8%AB%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="ويكيبيديا:مراجعة الزملاء/دوال مثلثية">لمراجعة الزملاء</a>. بانتظار مشاركة المُهتمين.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Abdeldjalil09" title="مستخدم:Abdeldjalil09">Abdeldjalil09</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Abdeldjalil09" title="نقاش المستخدم:Abdeldjalil09">نقاش</a>) 21:53، 20 فبراير 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" 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\u062c\u0645\u0627\u0644|2020-02-28T09:30:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0635\u0627\u0644\u062d|2020-03-04T21:27:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0639\u0644\u0627\u0621|2020-03-05T19:19:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0639\u0644\u0627\u0621|2020-03-06T14:05:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0635\u0627\u0644\u062d|2020-03-07T01:35:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0635\u0627\u0644\u062d|2020-03-07T01:35:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z|1&quot;,&quot;c|\u0623\u0628\u0648 \u0647\u0634\u0627\u0645|2020-03-09T14:03:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|MichelBakni|2020-03-09T21:14:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|MichelBakni|2020-03-09T21:40:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0635\u0627\u0644\u062d|2020-03-11T19:55:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|MichelBakni|2020-03-11T22:08:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u062c\u0645\u0627\u0644|2020-03-12T05:23:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|MichelBakni|2020-03-12T21:18:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Mustafa|2020-03-13T12:10:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u062c\u0645\u0627\u0644|2020-03-14T11:26:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|MichelBakni|2020-03-14T17:20:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Abdeldjalil09|2020-03-14T20:15:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Ahayad38|2020-03-15T00:38:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0641\u064a\u0635\u0644|2020-03-16T16:37:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Dr-Taher|2020-03-16T18:45:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0639\u0644\u0627\u0621|2020-03-16T19:43:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0641\u064a\u0635\u0644|2020-03-19T10:59:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0639\u0644\u0627\u0621|2020-03-19T16:10:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Ahayad38|2020-03-19T18:34:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0628\u0627\u0633\u0645|2020-03-19T19:01:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0635\u0627\u0644\u062d|2020-03-19T21:28:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f 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+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Adil Faouzi|2020-02-24T23:41:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>أهلاً جميعاً، قائمة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A3%D8%B9%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%84_%D8%AC%D9%8A%D9%83_%D8%AC%D9%8A%D9%84%D9%86%D9%87%D8%A7%D9%84" title="أعمال جيك جيلنهال">أعمال جيك جيلنهال</a></b> مُرشَّحة لنيل وسم القائمة المُختارة<b> <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%82%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%85_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AE%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A9/%D8%A3%D8%B9%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%84_%D8%AC%D9%8A%D9%83_%D8%AC%D9%8A%D9%84%D9%86%D9%87%D8%A7%D9%84" title="ويكيبيديا:ترشيحات القوائم المختارة/أعمال جيك جيلنهال">هذه الصفحة</a></b>--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Adil_Faouzi" title="مستخدم:Adil Faouzi"><span style="color:#32CD32;font-size: 18pt;"><span class="script-arabic">عادل فوزي</span></span></a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Adil_Faouzi" title="نقاش المستخدم:Adil Faouzi"><span style="color:#FFBF00;font-size:14px;font-family:andalus;"><i><b>راسلني</b></i></span></a>) 23:41، 24 فبراير 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Adil Faouzi|2020-02-24T23:41:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-02-24T23:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Adil Faouzi&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Adil Faouzi|2020-02-24T23:41:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Mustafa|2020-02-25T14:42:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مرحباً، كتبت خاطرةً عن <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Mustafa/%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA%D9%82%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%A8_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AC%D8%AF%D8%AF" title="مستخدم:Mustafa/استقطاب الجدد">استقطاب القادمين الجدد</a>. --《  <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Mustafa" title="مستخدم:Mustafa"><span style="color:#1E824C;font-size:80%;"><span style="font-size:150%;font-family:Reem Kufi;">مصطفى</span></span></a></b> <sup><small><b>(</b></small><strong><b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Mustafa" title="نقاش المستخدم:Mustafa">✉</a></b></strong></sup><sup><small><b>)</b></small></sup> 14:42، 25 فبراير 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mustafa|2020-02-25T14:42:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-02-25T14:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mustafa&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Mustafa|2020-02-25T14:42:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MichelBakni|2020-02-27T13:01:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مقالة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%82%D8%B7%D9%8A%D9%81_(%D9%85%D8%AD%D8%A7%D9%81%D8%B8%D8%A9)" title="القطيف (محافظة)">القطيف (محافظة)</a></b> تجاوزت مرحلة مراجعة الزملاء، وهي الآن في مرحلة التصويت لنيل وسم المقالة المختارة في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%82%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AE%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A9/%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%82%D8%B7%D9%8A%D9%81_(%D9%85%D8%AD%D8%A7%D9%81%D8%B8%D8%A9)" title="ويكيبيديا:ترشيحات المقالات المختارة/القطيف (محافظة)">هذه الصفحة</a></b>--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:MichelBakni" title="مستخدم:MichelBakni">MichelBakni</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:MichelBakni" title="نقاش المستخدم:MichelBakni">نقاش</a>) 13:01، 27 فبراير 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MichelBakni|2020-02-27T13:01:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-02-27T13:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MichelBakni&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MichelBakni|2020-02-27T13:01:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Abu aamir|2020-02-27T13:36:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مرحباً بكم، مقالة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AC%D8%B9%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B2%D9%85%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1/%D9%8A%D9%88%D8%B3%D9%81_%D8%A8%D9%86_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%84%D9%87_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%A8%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%87%D9%8A%D9%85" title="ويكيبيديا:مراجعة الزملاء/يوسف بن عبد الله الإبراهيم">يوسف بن عبد الله الإبراهيم</a></b> هي الآن في مرحلة مراجعة الزملاء لترشيحها مقالةً جيدة، يُرجى من الزملاء مراجعتها بما تيسّر. <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Abu_aamir" title="مستخدم:Abu aamir">Abu aamir</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Abu_aamir" title="نقاش المستخدم:Abu aamir">نقاش</a>) 13:36، 27 فبراير 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Abu aamir|2020-02-27T13:36:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-02-27T13:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Abu aamir&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Abu aamir|2020-02-27T13:36:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد جمال|2020-02-28T09:30:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>السلام عليكم، <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%85%D8%A9_%D8%B1%D8%A4%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%A1_%D9%88%D8%B2%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%A1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B1%D8%AF%D9%86" title="قائمة رؤساء وزراء الأردن">قائمة رؤساء وزراء الأردن</a></b> في مرحلة الترشيح لوسم القائمة المختارة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%82%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%85_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AE%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A9/%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%85%D8%A9_%D8%B1%D8%A4%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%A1_%D9%88%D8%B2%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%A1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B1%D8%AF%D9%86" title="ويكيبيديا:ترشيحات القوائم المختارة/قائمة رؤساء وزراء الأردن">هُنا</a></b>.--<span style="font-family: DecoType Naskh Variants ; font-size: 20px; text-shadow:gold 0.2em 0.1em 0.2em;"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%AC%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%84" title="مستخدم:محمد جمال"><span style="color:#E62020;"><b>محمد جمال</b></span></a> <sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%AC%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%84" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد جمال"><b>راسلني</b></a></sup></span> 09:30، 28 فبراير 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u062c\u0645\u0627\u0644|2020-02-28T09:30:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-02-28T09:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u062c\u0645\u0627\u0644&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|محمد جمال|2020-02-28T09:30:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|صالح|2020-03-04T21:27:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مرحبًا، هناك نقاش جار في ميدان التقنية، حول <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86/%D8%AA%D9%82%D9%86%D9%8A%D8%A9#تحديث_رسالة_الترحيب_والتوقيع_المُضمّن" title="ويكيبيديا:الميدان/تقنية">تحديث رسالة الترحيب والتوقيع المُضمّن</a></b>، أرجو من المهتمين المشاركة. تحياتي للجميع. -- <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B5%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:صالح">صالح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B5%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:صالح">نقاش</a>) 21:27، 4 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0635\u0627\u0644\u062d|2020-03-04T21:27:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-04T21:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0635\u0627\u0644\u062d&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|صالح|2020-03-04T21:27:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86/%D8%B3%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%AA#سياسة_حماية_الأطفال" title="ويكيبيديا:الميدان/سياسات"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|علاء|2020-03-05T19:19:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>سياسة مُقترحة لحماية الأطفال</a></b>. بانتظار مُشاركة المجتمع. تحياتي <b>--</b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B9%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1" title="مستخدم:علاء"><span style="color:#000000; font-size:21px; font-family:traditional arabic;"><b>علاء</b></span></a> <sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B9%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1" title="نقاش المستخدم:علاء"><span style="color:#8A0808; font-size:18px; font-family:traditional arabic;"><b>راسلني</b></span></a></sup> 19:19، 5 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0639\u0644\u0627\u0621|2020-03-05T19:19:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-05T19:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0639\u0644\u0627\u0621&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|علاء|2020-03-05T19:19:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|علاء|2020-03-06T14:05:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مرحبًا، <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%AC%D8%A7%D8%A6%D8%B2%D8%A9_%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%AB_%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%AA%D9%84_%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%AA%D8%B1_%D9%81%D9%8A_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%B6%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%AA" title="جائزة روث ليتل ساتر في الرياضيات">جائزة روث ليتل ساتر في الرياضيات</a></b> <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%82%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%85_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AE%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A9/%D8%AC%D8%A7%D8%A6%D8%B2%D8%A9_%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%AB_%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%AA%D9%84_%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%AA%D8%B1_%D9%81%D9%8A_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%B6%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%AA" title="ويكيبيديا:ترشيحات القوائم المختارة/جائزة روث ليتل ساتر في الرياضيات">مرشحة لنيل وسم قائمة مختارة</a>. بانتظار مُشاركة المهتمين. تحياتي <b>--</b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B9%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1" title="مستخدم:علاء"><span style="color:#000000; font-size:21px; font-family:traditional arabic;"><b>علاء</b></span></a> <sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B9%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1" title="نقاش المستخدم:علاء"><span style="color:#8A0808; font-size:18px; font-family:traditional arabic;"><b>راسلني</b></span></a></sup> 14:05، 6 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0639\u0644\u0627\u0621|2020-03-06T14:05:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-06T14:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0639\u0644\u0627\u0621&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|علاء|2020-03-06T14:05:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|صالح|2020-03-07T01:35:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مرحبًا جميعًا، مقالة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B0%D8%A8%D8%AD%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%82%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%A9" title="مذبحة القلعة">مذبحة القلعة</a></b> من تطوير الزميل <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%A5%D8%B3%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%85" title="مستخدم:إسلام">إسلام</a>، تخضع لمراجعة الزملاء لنيل وسم مقالة جيدة في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AC%D8%B9%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B2%D9%85%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1/%D9%85%D8%B0%D8%A8%D8%AD%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%82%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%A9" title="ويكيبيديا:مراجعة الزملاء/مذبحة القلعة">هذه الصفحة</a></b>. -- <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B5%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:صالح">صالح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B5%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:صالح">نقاش</a>) 01:35، 7 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0635\u0627\u0644\u062d|2020-03-07T01:35:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-07T01:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0635\u0627\u0644\u062d&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|صالح|2020-03-07T01:35:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|صالح|2020-03-07T01:35:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z|1"></span>مرحبًا جميعًا، مقالة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A7%D9%86%D8%B3%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%A8_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%85%D9%84%D9%83%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AA%D8%AD%D8%AF%D8%A9_%D9%85%D9%86_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AA%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D9%88%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%A8%D9%8A" title="انسحاب المملكة المتحدة من الاتحاد الأوروبي">انسحاب المملكة المتحدة من الاتحاد الأوروبي</a></b> من تطوير الزميل <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B9%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%86" title="مستخدم:علاء الدين">علاء الدين</a>، تخضع لمراجعة الزملاء لنيل وسم مقالة مختارة في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AC%D8%B9%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B2%D9%85%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1/%D8%A7%D9%86%D8%B3%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%A8_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%85%D9%84%D9%83%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AA%D8%AD%D8%AF%D8%A9_%D9%85%D9%86_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AA%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D9%88%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%A8%D9%8A" title="ويكيبيديا:مراجعة الزملاء/انسحاب المملكة المتحدة من الاتحاد الأوروبي">هذه الصفحة</a></b>. -- <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B5%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:صالح">صالح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B5%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:صالح">نقاش</a>) 01:35، 7 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0635\u0627\u0644\u062d|2020-03-07T01:35:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z|1&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-07T01:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0635\u0627\u0644\u062d&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|صالح|2020-03-07T01:35:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z|1"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|أبو هشام|2020-03-09T14:03:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مرحباً، أدعو جميع المحررين إلى توسيع <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%AA%D8%B5%D9%86%D9%8A%D9%81:%D8%AC%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%B9_%D9%85%D9%82%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8%D8%B0%D9%88%D8%B1" title="تصنيف:جميع مقالات البذور">بذرة</a> من اختيارهم وحذف قالب بذرة منها، والمُداومة على هذا العمل لعلنا نتمكن من تقليل نسبة البذور في الموسوعة. (وشكرا لكم) --<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%A3%D8%A8%D9%88_%D9%87%D8%B4%D8%A7%D9%85" title="مستخدم:أبو هشام">أبو هشام</a> <sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%A3%D8%A8%D9%88_%D9%87%D8%B4%D8%A7%D9%85" title="نقاش المستخدم:أبو هشام">«نقاش»</a></sup> 14:03، 9 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0623\u0628\u0648 \u0647\u0634\u0627\u0645|2020-03-09T14:03:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-09T14:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0623\u0628\u0648 \u0647\u0634\u0627\u0645&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|أبو هشام|2020-03-09T14:03:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MichelBakni|2020-03-09T21:14:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مقالة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%B4%D8%A8%D9%83%D8%A9_%D8%AE%D8%A7%D8%B5%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%B6%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="شبكة خاصة افتراضية">شبكة خاصة افتراضية</a></b> تجاوزت مرحلة مراجعة الزملاء، وهي الآن في مرحلة التصويت لنيل وسم المقالة الجيدة في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%82%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AC%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A9/%D8%B4%D8%A8%D9%83%D8%A9_%D8%AE%D8%A7%D8%B5%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%B6%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="ويكيبيديا:ترشيحات المقالات الجيدة/شبكة خاصة افتراضية">هذه الصفحة</a></b>--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:MichelBakni" title="مستخدم:MichelBakni">MichelBakni</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:MichelBakni" title="نقاش المستخدم:MichelBakni">نقاش</a>) 21:14، 9 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MichelBakni|2020-03-09T21:14:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-09T21:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MichelBakni&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MichelBakni|2020-03-09T21:14:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MichelBakni|2020-03-09T21:40:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مقالة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A3%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%A7%D8%A8_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%88_%D9%81%D9%8A_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A8%D9%8A" title="ألعاب الفيديو في العالم العربي">ألعاب الفيديو في العالم العربي</a></b> تجاوزت مرحلة مراجعة الزملاء، وهي الآن في مرحلة التصويت لنيل وسم المقالة الجيدة في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%82%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AC%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A9/%D8%A3%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%A7%D8%A8_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%88_%D9%81%D9%8A_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A8%D9%8A" title="ويكيبيديا:ترشيحات المقالات الجيدة/ألعاب الفيديو في العالم العربي">هذه الصفحة</a></b>--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:MichelBakni" title="مستخدم:MichelBakni">MichelBakni</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:MichelBakni" title="نقاش المستخدم:MichelBakni">نقاش</a>) 21:40، 9 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MichelBakni|2020-03-09T21:40:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-09T21:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MichelBakni&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MichelBakni|2020-03-09T21:40:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|صالح|2020-03-11T19:55:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مرحبًا جميعًا، مقالة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A5%D9%8A%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%B3_%D8%AF%D9%88_%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%BA%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%86%D8%BA" class="mw-redirect" title="إيناس دو بورغوانغ">إيناس دو بورغوانغ</a></b> من تطوير الزميل <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Adil_Faouzi" title="مستخدم:Adil Faouzi">عادل فوزي</a>، تخضع لمراجعة الزملاء لنيل وسم مقالة جيّدة في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AC%D8%B9%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B2%D9%85%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1/%D8%A5%D9%8A%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%B3_%D8%AF%D9%88_%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%BA%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%86%D8%BA" class="mw-redirect" title="ويكيبيديا:مراجعة الزملاء/إيناس دو بورغوانغ">هذه الصفحة</a></b>. -- <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B5%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:صالح">صالح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B5%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:صالح">نقاش</a>) 19:55، 11 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0635\u0627\u0644\u062d|2020-03-11T19:55:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-11T19:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0635\u0627\u0644\u062d&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|صالح|2020-03-11T19:55:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MichelBakni|2020-03-11T22:08:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مقالة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A3%D9%84%D9%88%D8%B5%D9%88%D8%B1" title="ألوصور">ألوصور</a></b> تجاوزت مرحلة مراجعة الزملاء، وهي الآن في مرحلة التصويت لنيل وسم المقالة المختارة في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%82%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AE%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A9/%D8%A3%D9%84%D9%88%D8%B5%D9%88%D8%B1" title="ويكيبيديا:ترشيحات المقالات المختارة/ألوصور">هذه الصفحة</a></b>--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:MichelBakni" title="مستخدم:MichelBakni">MichelBakni</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:MichelBakni" title="نقاش المستخدم:MichelBakni">نقاش</a>) 22:08، 11 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MichelBakni|2020-03-11T22:08:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-11T22:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MichelBakni&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MichelBakni|2020-03-11T22:08:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد جمال|2020-03-12T05:23:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>السلام عليكم، <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%85%D8%A9_%D8%B1%D8%A4%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%A1_%D9%88%D8%B2%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%A1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B1%D8%AF%D9%86" title="قائمة رؤساء وزراء الأردن">قائمة رؤساء وزراء الأردن</a></b> في مرحلة الترشيح لوسم القائمة المختارة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%82%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%85_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AE%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A9/%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%85%D8%A9_%D8%B1%D8%A4%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%A1_%D9%88%D8%B2%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%A1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B1%D8%AF%D9%86" title="ويكيبيديا:ترشيحات القوائم المختارة/قائمة رؤساء وزراء الأردن">هُنا</a></b>.--<span style="font-family: DecoType Naskh Variants ; font-size: 20px; text-shadow:gold 0.2em 0.1em 0.2em;"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%AC%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%84" title="مستخدم:محمد جمال"><span style="color:#E62020;"><b>محمد جمال</b></span></a> <sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%AC%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%84" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد جمال"><b>نقاش</b></a></sup></span> 05:23، 12 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u062c\u0645\u0627\u0644|2020-03-12T05:23:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-12T05:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u062c\u0645\u0627\u0644&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|محمد جمال|2020-03-12T05:23:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MichelBakni|2020-03-12T21:18:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مقالة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%8A%D9%88%D8%B3%D9%81_%D8%A8%D9%86_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%84%D9%87_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%A8%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%87%D9%8A%D9%85" title="يوسف بن عبد الله الإبراهيم">يوسف بن عبد الله الإبراهيم</a></b> تجاوزت مرحلة مراجعة الزملاء، وهي الآن في مرحلة التصويت لنيل وسم المقالة الجيدة في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%82%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AC%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A9/%D9%8A%D9%88%D8%B3%D9%81_%D8%A8%D9%86_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%84%D9%87_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%A8%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%87%D9%8A%D9%85" title="ويكيبيديا:ترشيحات المقالات الجيدة/يوسف بن عبد الله الإبراهيم">هذه الصفحة</a></b>--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:MichelBakni" title="مستخدم:MichelBakni">MichelBakni</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:MichelBakni" title="نقاش المستخدم:MichelBakni">نقاش</a>) 21:18، 12 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MichelBakni|2020-03-12T21:18:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-12T21:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MichelBakni&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MichelBakni|2020-03-12T21:18:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Mustafa|2020-03-13T12:10:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مرحباً! <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%A6%D8%B1%D8%A9" title="دائرة">مقالة دائرة</a></b> في مرحلة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AC%D8%B9%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B2%D9%85%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1/%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%A6%D8%B1%D8%A9" title="ويكيبيديا:مراجعة الزملاء/دائرة">مُراجعة الزملاء للمقالات المختارة</a></b>. بانتظارِ آرائكم ومُلاحظاتِكم.--《  <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Mustafa" title="مستخدم:Mustafa"><span style="color:#1E824C;font-size:80%;"><span style="font-size:150%;font-family:Reem Kufi;">مصطفى</span></span></a></b> <sup><small><b>(</b></small><big><b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Mustafa" title="نقاش المستخدم:Mustafa">✉</a></b></big></sup><sup><small><b>)</b></small></sup> 12:10، 13 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mustafa|2020-03-13T12:10:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-13T12:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mustafa&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Mustafa|2020-03-13T12:10:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد جمال|2020-03-14T11:26:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>السلام عليكم، مقالة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%8A_%D8%A3%D8%A8%D9%88_%D9%86%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%B1" title="علي أبو نوار">علي أبو نوار</a></b> تخضع حاليًّا <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AC%D8%B9%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B2%D9%85%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1/%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%8A_%D8%A3%D8%A8%D9%88_%D9%86%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%B1" title="ويكيبيديا:مراجعة الزملاء/علي أبو نوار">لمراجعة الزملاء هُنا</a></b> لتنال وسم المقالة الجيدة.--<span style="font-family: DecoType Naskh Variants ; font-size: 20px; text-shadow:gold 0.2em 0.1em 0.2em;"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%AC%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%84" title="مستخدم:محمد جمال"><span style="color:#E62020;"><b>محمد جمال</b></span></a> <sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%AC%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%84" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد جمال"><b>نقاش</b></a></sup></span> 11:26، 14 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u062c\u0645\u0627\u0644|2020-03-14T11:26:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-14T11:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u062c\u0645\u0627\u0644&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|محمد جمال|2020-03-14T11:26:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MichelBakni|2020-03-14T17:20:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مقالة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A5%D9%86%D8%AC%D9%8A%D9%84_%D8%AA%D9%88%D9%85%D8%A7" title="إنجيل توما">إنجيل توما</a></b> تجاوزت مرحلة مراجعة الزملاء، وهي الآن في مرحلة التصويت لنيل وسم المقالة المختارة في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%82%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AE%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A9/%D8%A5%D9%86%D8%AC%D9%8A%D9%84_%D8%AA%D9%88%D9%85%D8%A7" title="ويكيبيديا:ترشيحات المقالات المختارة/إنجيل توما">هذه الصفحة</a></b>--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:MichelBakni" title="مستخدم:MichelBakni">MichelBakni</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:MichelBakni" title="نقاش المستخدم:MichelBakni">نقاش</a>) 17:20، 14 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MichelBakni|2020-03-14T17:20:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-14T17:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MichelBakni&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MichelBakni|2020-03-14T17:20:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Abdeldjalil09|2020-03-14T20:15:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مساء الخير، أطلب كل من المتخصصين في الهندسة الكهربائية، والاتصالات، والاعلام الالي، ومسح الأراضي، مساعدتي في تطوير مقالة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%AF%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%84_%D9%85%D8%AB%D9%84%D8%AB%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="دوال مثلثية">دوال مثلثية</a></b> بأخذ بعض المعلومات من <a class="external text" href="https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%AA%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%A8%D8%B9_%D9%85%D8%AB%D9%84%D8%AB%D8%A7%D8%AA%DB%8C#%DA%A9%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A8%D8%B1%D8%AF%7Cالنسخة">الفارسية المختارة (قسم "التطبيقات")</a> أو إضافة معلومات مهمة المفقودة، لترشيحها كمقالة مختارة، تحياتي.<br/>إذا رغب أحدكم أن يُدخِل إضافات جديدة إلى المقالة، أدخلوها في <a class="external text" href="https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Abdeldjalil09/%D9%85%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%A8#">ملعبي</a>، تحياتي. -- <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Abdeldjalil09" title="مستخدم:Abdeldjalil09">Abdeldjalil09</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Abdeldjalil09" title="نقاش المستخدم:Abdeldjalil09">نقاش</a>) 20:15، 14 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Abdeldjalil09|2020-03-14T20:15:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-14T20:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Abdeldjalil09&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Abdeldjalil09|2020-03-14T20:15:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ahayad38|2020-03-15T00:38:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>لقد اقترحت اقتراح في <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86/%D8%A7%D9%82%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AA" title="ويكيبيديا:الميدان/اقتراحات">الميدان/اقتراحات</a> لتعديل الصلاحيات في الموسوعة يرجى المشاركة لمن يهمه الأمر.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Ahayad38" title="مستخدم:Ahayad38">Ahayad38</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Ahayad38" title="نقاش المستخدم:Ahayad38">نقاش</a>) 00:38، 15 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ahayad38|2020-03-15T00:38:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-15T00:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ahayad38&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ahayad38|2020-03-15T00:38:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%85%D8%A9_%D8%A3%D9%87%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%81_%D8%B2%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AA%D8%A7%D9%86_%D8%A5%D8%A8%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%87%D9%8A%D9%85%D9%88%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AA%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AF%D9%88%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="قائمة أهداف زلاتان إبراهيموفيتش الدولية"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|فيصل|2020-03-16T16:37:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>قائمة أهداف زلاتان إبراهيموفيتش الدولية</a></b> مُرشحة لوسم القائمة المختارة. بانتظار رأيكم في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%82%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%85_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AE%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A9/%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%85%D8%A9_%D8%A3%D9%87%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%81_%D8%B2%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AA%D8%A7%D9%86_%D8%A5%D8%A8%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%87%D9%8A%D9%85%D9%88%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AA%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AF%D9%88%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="ويكيبيديا:ترشيحات القوائم المختارة/قائمة أهداف زلاتان إبراهيموفيتش الدولية">هذه الصفحة</a></b>. تحياتي.--<span style="font-family: Andalus; font-size: 18px; text-shadow: silver 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em;"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%B5%D9%84" title="مستخدم:فيصل"><span style="color:FF000000;"><b>فيصل </b></span></a><sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%B5%D9%84" title="نقاش المستخدم:فيصل"><b>(راسلني)</b></a></sup></span> 16:37، 16 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0641\u064a\u0635\u0644|2020-03-16T16:37:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-16T16:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0641\u064a\u0635\u0644&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|فيصل|2020-03-16T16:37:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Dr-Taher|2020-03-16T18:45:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته. هناك تصويت حول <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%AA%D8%B5%D9%88%D9%8A%D8%AA/%D8%B3%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%AA/%D8%AA%D8%B9%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%84_%D8%B4%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%B7_%D8%A5%D8%B2%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A9_%D8%B5%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AD%D9%8A%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%B1%D9%88%D9%82%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%B7" title="ويكيبيديا:تصويت/سياسات/تعديل شروط إزالة صلاحية البيروقراط"><b>تعديل شروط إزالة صلاحية البيروقراط</b></a>، أدعوكم للمشاركة بما ترونه مناسبًا. شكرا لكم. --<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Dr-Taher" title="مستخدم:Dr-Taher">Dr-Taher</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Dr-Taher" title="نقاش المستخدم:Dr-Taher">نقاش</a>) 18:45، 16 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Dr-Taher|2020-03-16T18:45:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-16T18:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Dr-Taher&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Dr-Taher|2020-03-16T18:45:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|علاء|2020-03-16T19:43:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>نُعلن تكوين <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B4%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%B9_%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A_%D8%B7%D8%A8/%D9%81%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%82_%D8%B9%D9%85%D9%84_%D9%83%D9%88%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AF-19" title="ويكيبيديا:مشروع ويكي طب/فريق عمل كوفيد-19">فريق عمل كوفيد-19</a></b> (مرتبط بجائحة فيروس كورونا 2019). بانتظار مُشاركة المهتمين. تحياتي <b>--</b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B9%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1" title="مستخدم:علاء"><span style="color:#000000; font-size:21px; font-family:traditional arabic;"><b>علاء</b></span></a> <sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B9%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1" title="نقاش المستخدم:علاء"><span style="color:#8A0808; font-size:18px; font-family:traditional arabic;"><b>راسلني</b></span></a></sup> 19:43، 16 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0639\u0644\u0627\u0621|2020-03-16T19:43:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-16T19:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0639\u0644\u0627\u0621&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|علاء|2020-03-16T19:43:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%85%D8%A9_%D8%A3%D9%87%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%81_%D8%A8%D9%8A%D9%86%D9%8A_%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%83%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%AB%D9%8A_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AF%D9%88%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="قائمة أهداف بيني ماكارثي الدولية"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|فيصل|2020-03-19T10:59:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>قائمة أهداف بيني ماكارثي الدولية</a></b> مُرشحة لوسم القائمة المختارة. بانتظار رأيكم في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%82%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%85_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AE%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A9/%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%85%D8%A9_%D8%A3%D9%87%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%81_%D8%A8%D9%8A%D9%86%D9%8A_%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%83%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%AB%D9%8A_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AF%D9%88%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="ويكيبيديا:ترشيحات القوائم المختارة/قائمة أهداف بيني ماكارثي الدولية">هذه الصفحة</a></b>. تحياتي.--<span style="font-family: Andalus; font-size: 18px; text-shadow: silver 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em;"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%B5%D9%84" title="مستخدم:فيصل"><span style="color:FF000000;"><b>فيصل </b></span></a><sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%B5%D9%84" title="نقاش المستخدم:فيصل"><b>(راسلني)</b></a></sup></span> 10:59، 19 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0641\u064a\u0635\u0644|2020-03-19T10:59:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-19T10:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0641\u064a\u0635\u0644&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|فيصل|2020-03-19T10:59:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86/%D8%AA%D9%82%D9%86%D9%8A%D8%A9#طلب_وضع_إعلان_لمسجلي_الدخول_فقط_حول_كوفيد-19" title="ويكيبيديا:الميدان/تقنية"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|علاء|2020-03-19T16:10:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>طلب وضع إعلان محلي</a></b> بحاجة لمشاركةٍ مجتمعية سريعة. تحياتي <b>--</b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B9%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1" title="مستخدم:علاء"><span style="color:#000000; font-size:21px; font-family:traditional arabic;"><b>علاء</b></span></a> <sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B9%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1" title="نقاش المستخدم:علاء"><span style="color:#8A0808; font-size:18px; font-family:traditional arabic;"><b>راسلني</b></span></a></sup> 16:10، 19 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0639\u0644\u0627\u0621|2020-03-19T16:10:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-19T16:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0639\u0644\u0627\u0621&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|علاء|2020-03-19T16:10:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ahayad38|2020-03-19T18:34:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>هناك اقتراح خاص <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B4%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%B9_%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A_%D8%B7%D8%A8/%D9%81%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%82_%D8%B9%D9%85%D9%84_%D9%83%D9%88%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AF-19" title="ويكيبيديا:مشروع ويكي طب/فريق عمل كوفيد-19">بفريق عمل كوفيد-19</a> من يهمه الأمر يرجى المشاركة <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86/%D8%A7%D9%82%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AA" title="ويكيبيديا:الميدان/اقتراحات">هنا</a>.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Ahayad38" title="مستخدم:Ahayad38">Ahayad38</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Ahayad38" title="نقاش المستخدم:Ahayad38">نقاش</a>) 18:34، 19 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ahayad38|2020-03-19T18:34:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-19T18:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ahayad38&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ahayad38|2020-03-19T18:34:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%AA%D8%B5%D9%88%D9%8A%D8%AA/%D8%B3%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%AA/%D8%B3%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%A9_%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%8A%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B7%D9%81%D8%A7%D9%84" title="ويكيبيديا:تصويت/سياسات/سياسة حماية الأطفال"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|باسم|2020-03-19T19:01:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>سياسة حماية الأطفال تحت التصويت الآن</a></b>، الرجاء المُشاركة بما ترونه مُناسبًا--<span style="font-family: Andalus; font-size: 18px; text-shadow: silver 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em;"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B3%D9%85" title="مستخدم:باسم"><span style="color:#004225;"><b>باسم</b></span></a><sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B3%D9%85" title="نقاش المستخدم:باسم"><b>راسلني (☎)</b></a></sup></span> 19:01، 19 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0628\u0627\u0633\u0645|2020-03-19T19:01:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-19T19:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0628\u0627\u0633\u0645&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|باسم|2020-03-19T19:01:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|صالح|2020-03-19T21:28:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مرحبًا جميعًا، مقالة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AF%D8%AB%D8%A9_%D8%B4%D8%A7%D9%88%D8%BA%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%86" title="حادثة شاوغوان">حادثة شاوغوان</a></b> من تطوير الزميل <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%A5%D8%B3%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%85" title="مستخدم:إسلام">إسلام</a>، تجاوزت مرحلة مراجعة الزملاء، وهي الآن في مرحلة التصويت لنيل وسم المقالة الجيّدة في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%82%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AC%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A9/%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AF%D8%AB%D8%A9_%D8%B4%D8%A7%D9%88%D8%BA%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%86" title="ويكيبيديا:ترشيحات المقالات الجيدة/حادثة شاوغوان">هذه الصفحة</a></b>. -- <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B5%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:صالح">صالح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B5%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:صالح">نقاش</a>) 21:28، 19 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0635\u0627\u0644\u062d|2020-03-19T21:28:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-19T21:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0635\u0627\u0644\u062d&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|صالح|2020-03-19T21:28:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2020-03-21T11:52:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>دعوة للمشاركة حول <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86/%D8%AA%D9%82%D9%86%D9%8A%D8%A9#إضافة_مفتاح_التصنيف_لصفحات_تصنيفات_البلدان_والجنسيات" title="ويكيبيديا:الميدان/تقنية">إضافة مفتاح التصنيف لصفحات تصنيفات البلدان والجنسيات</a>.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">نقاش</a>) 11:52، 21 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2020-03-21T11:52:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-21T11:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2020-03-21T11:52:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|FShbib|2020-03-21T18:23:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مرحبًا.. رسالة للمشاركين في <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%A8%D9%82%D8%A9_%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%B9%D9%88%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="ويكيبيديا:مسابقة ويكيبيديا السعودية">مسابقة ويكيبيديا السعودية</a>: قررت لجنة التحكيم تمديد فترة التقييم إلى 1 أبريل بإذن الله، ولأي استفسار؛ الرجاء طرحه <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%A8%D9%82%D8%A9_%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%B9%D9%88%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A9#تمديد_فترة_التقييم" title="نقاش ويكيبيديا:مسابقة ويكيبيديا السعودية"><b>هنا</b></a>.. تحياتي للجميع.. --<b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:FShbib" title="مستخدم:FShbib">شبيب..</a></b><sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:FShbib" title="نقاش المستخدم:FShbib">ناقشني</a></sup> 18:23، 21 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|FShbib|2020-03-21T18:23:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-21T18:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;FShbib&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|FShbib|2020-03-21T18:23:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86/%D8%AA%D9%82%D9%86%D9%8A%D8%A9#قريبا:_واجهة_جديدة_لدمج_التعديلات_المتضاربة" title="ويكيبيديا:الميدان/تقنية"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|زكريا|2020-03-24T01:54:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>واجهة جديدة لدمج التعديلات المتضاربة</a> --<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B2%D9%83%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%A7" title="نقاش المستخدم:زكريا">زكريا</a> 01:54، 24 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0632\u0643\u0631\u064a\u0627|2020-03-24T01:54:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-24T01:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0632\u0643\u0631\u064a\u0627&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|زكريا|2020-03-24T01:54:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86/%D8%B3%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%AA#نقاش_حول_سياسة_تسمية_جديدة_في_الموسوعة" title="ويكيبيديا:الميدان/سياسات"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MichelBakni|2020-03-24T07:23:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>نقاش جارٍ</a></b> في ميدان السياسات حول سياسة تسمية مقالات جديدة في الموسوعة.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:MichelBakni" title="مستخدم:MichelBakni">MichelBakni</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:MichelBakni" title="نقاش المستخدم:MichelBakni">نقاش</a>) 07:23، 24 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MichelBakni|2020-03-24T07:23:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-24T07:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MichelBakni&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MichelBakni|2020-03-24T07:23:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|شيماء|2020-03-25T07:42:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span> مقالة <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%AE%D9%8A%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%86_%D8%A8%D8%B1%D8%A8%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%B3" title="خير الدين بربروس">خير الدين بربروس</a> من تطوير <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%A3%D8%B3%D8%A7%D9%85%D8%A9%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%B3%D9%8A" title="مستخدم:أسامةالفاروسي">الزميل أسامةالفاروسي</a> تخضع لمراجعة الزملاء لنيل وسم مقالة مختارة <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AC%D8%B9%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B2%D9%85%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1/%D8%AE%D9%8A%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%86_%D8%A8%D8%B1%D8%A8%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%B3" title="ويكيبيديا:مراجعة الزملاء/خير الدين بربروس">في هذه الصفحة</a>.<b>--</b> <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85%D8%A9:%D8%B4%D9%8A%D9%85%D8%A7%D8%A1" title="مستخدمة:شيماء"><span style="color:#FB607F; font-size:18px; font-family:traditional arabic;"><b>شَيْمَاء</b></span></a> <sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85%D8%A9:%D8%B4%D9%8A%D9%85%D8%A7%D8%A1" title="نقاش المستخدمة:شيماء"><span style="color:#98777B; font-size:15px; font-family:traditional arabic;"><b>ناقِشني</b></span></a></sup> 07:42، 25 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0634\u064a\u0645\u0627\u0621|2020-03-25T07:42:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-25T07:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0634\u064a\u0645\u0627\u0621&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|شيماء|2020-03-25T07:42:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%AA%D8%B5%D9%88%D9%8A%D8%AA/%D8%B3%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%AA/%D8%A5%D8%B9%D8%A7%D8%AF%D8%A9_%D8%B5%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%BA%D8%A9_%D8%B4%D8%A7%D9%85%D9%84%D8%A9_%D9%84%D8%B3%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%A9_%D9%85%D8%B4%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%B9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A" title="ويكيبيديا:تصويت/سياسات/إعادة صياغة شاملة لسياسة مشاريع الويكي"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|علاء|2020-03-26T18:29:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>سياسة مشاريع الويكي تحت التصويت الآن</a></b>، الرجاء المُشاركة بما ترونه مُناسبًا <b>--</b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B9%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1" title="مستخدم:علاء"><span style="color:#000000; font-size:21px; font-family:traditional arabic;"><b>علاء</b></span></a> <sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B9%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1" title="نقاش المستخدم:علاء"><span style="color:#8A0808; font-size:18px; font-family:traditional arabic;"><b>راسلني</b></span></a></sup> 18:29، 26 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0639\u0644\u0627\u0621|2020-03-26T18:29:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-26T18:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0639\u0644\u0627\u0621&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|علاء|2020-03-26T18:29:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|عبد المغيث|2020-03-26T19:22:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مرحبًا جميعًا، <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%85%D8%A9_%D8%A3%D9%87%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%81_%D9%83%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%86%D8%AA_%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%85%D8%A8%D8%B3%D9%8A_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AF%D9%88%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="قائمة أهداف كلينت ديمبسي الدولية">قائمة أهداف كلينت ديمبسي الدولية</a></b> مُرشحة لوسم القائمة المختارة. بانتظار رأيكم في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%82%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%85_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AE%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A9/%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%85%D8%A9_%D8%A3%D9%87%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%81_%D9%83%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%86%D8%AA_%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%85%D8%A8%D8%B3%D9%8A_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AF%D9%88%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="ويكيبيديا:ترشيحات القوائم المختارة/قائمة أهداف كلينت ديمبسي الدولية">هذه الصفحة</a></b>. شُكرًا. -- <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%BA%D9%8A%D8%AB" title="مستخدم:عبد المغيث">عبد المغيث</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%BA%D9%8A%D8%AB" title="نقاش المستخدم:عبد المغيث">نقاش</a>) 19:22، 26 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0645\u063a\u064a\u062b|2020-03-26T19:22:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-26T19:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0645\u063a\u064a\u062b&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|عبد المغيث|2020-03-26T19:22:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Dr-Taher|2020-03-27T05:37:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>السلام عليكم. دعوة لكل <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%AD%D8%B1%D8%B1%D9%88%D9%86" title="ويكيبيديا:محررون"><b>المحررين</b></a> النشطين للمساهمة في أعمال <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%81%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%82_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%87%D8%A7%D9%85_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AE%D8%A7%D8%B5%D8%A9" title="ويكيبيديا:فريق المهام الخاصة"><b>فريق المهام الخاصة</b></a> لمراجعة التعديلات المُعلَّقة لتحسين الموسوعة. أو للقيام بمراجعة <b>15 مقالة يوميا</b> من <a class="external text" href="https://ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D8%AE%D8%A7%D8%B5:%D8%B5%D9%81%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AC%D8%B9%D8%A9_%D9%82%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%85%D8%A9&amp;offset=20200326175643&amp;limit=100&amp;namespace=0"><b>هذه القائمة</b></a>. شكرا لكم.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Dr-Taher" title="مستخدم:Dr-Taher">Dr-Taher</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Dr-Taher" title="نقاش المستخدم:Dr-Taher">نقاش</a>) 05:37، 27 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Dr-Taher|2020-03-27T05:37:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-27T05:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Dr-Taher&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Dr-Taher|2020-03-27T05:37:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86/%D8%AA%D9%82%D9%86%D9%8A%D8%A9#انهيار_القوالب_في_المقالات_دون_سبب" title="ويكيبيديا:الميدان/تقنية"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|باسم|2020-03-27T14:59:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>هل هُناك من حلٍ نهائيٍّ لِمُشكلة القوالب المُضمَّنة</a></b>؟--<span style="font-family: Andalus; font-size: 18px; text-shadow: silver 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em;"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B3%D9%85" title="مستخدم:باسم"><span style="color:#004225;"><b>باسم</b></span></a><sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B3%D9%85" title="نقاش المستخدم:باسم"><b>راسلني (☎)</b></a></sup></span> 14:59، 27 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0628\u0627\u0633\u0645|2020-03-27T14:59:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-27T14:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0628\u0627\u0633\u0645&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|باسم|2020-03-27T14:59:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|صالح|2020-03-29T13:34:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مرحبًا جميعًا، مقالة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B0%D8%A8%D8%AD%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%82%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%A9" title="مذبحة القلعة">مذبحة القلعة</a></b> من تطوير الزميل <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%A5%D8%B3%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%85" title="مستخدم:إسلام">إسلام</a>، تجاوزت مرحلة مراجعة الزملاء، وهي الآن في مرحلة التصويت لنيل وسم المقالة الجيّدة في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%82%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AC%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A9/%D9%85%D8%B0%D8%A8%D8%AD%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%82%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%A9" title="ويكيبيديا:ترشيحات المقالات الجيدة/مذبحة القلعة">هذه الصفحة</a></b>. -- <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B5%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:صالح">صالح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B5%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:صالح">نقاش</a>) 13:34، 29 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0635\u0627\u0644\u062d|2020-03-29T13:34:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-29T13:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0635\u0627\u0644\u062d&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|صالح|2020-03-29T13:34:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|FShbib|2020-03-31T00:14:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>تم <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%A8%D9%82%D8%A9_%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%B9%D9%88%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A9/%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%86%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%A6%D8%AC" title="ويكيبيديا:مسابقة ويكيبيديا السعودية/النتائج">الإعلان عن نتائج مسابقة ويكيبيديا السعودية</a></b>.. تهانينا لجميع الفائزين، على أمل أن نراكم في مسابقات أخرى بإذن الله.. --<b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:FShbib" title="مستخدم:FShbib">شبيب..</a></b><sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:FShbib" title="نقاش المستخدم:FShbib">ناقشني</a></sup> 00:14، 31 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|FShbib|2020-03-31T00:14:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-31T00:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;FShbib&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|FShbib|2020-03-31T00:14:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86/%D9%85%D9%86%D9%88%D8%B9%D8%A7%D8%AA#أداة_الرد_في_صفحات_النقاش" title="ويكيبيديا:الميدان/منوعات"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|علاء|2020-04-01T02:44:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>أداة جديدة للرد في صفحات النقاش</a></b> سهلة ولطيفة، بانتظار تجربتكم لها والتعليق عبر الوصلة السابقة. تحياتي <b>--</b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B9%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1" title="مستخدم:علاء"><span style="color:#000000; font-size:21px; font-family:traditional arabic;"><b>علاء</b></span></a> <sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B9%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1" title="نقاش المستخدم:علاء"><span style="color:#8A0808; font-size:18px; font-family:traditional arabic;"><b>راسلني</b></span></a></sup> 02:44، 1 أبريل 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0639\u0644\u0627\u0621|2020-04-01T02:44:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-01T02:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0639\u0644\u0627\u0621&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|علاء|2020-04-01T02:44:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|جار الله|2020-04-01T19:50:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مرحبًا جميعًا، الزميل <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%B5%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:صالح">صالح</a> <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%B1%D9%88%D9%82%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%B7%D9%8A%D9%88%D9%86/%D8%AA%D8%B5%D9%88%D9%8A%D8%AA/%D8%B5%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD" title="ويكيبيديا:بيروقراطيون/تصويت/صالح">مُرشح لصلاحية بيروقراط</a></b>، أرجو من الزملاء المشاركة في التصويت. تحياتي.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%AC%D8%A7%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%84%D9%87" title="مستخدم:جار الله">جار الله</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%AC%D8%A7%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%84%D9%87" title="نقاش المستخدم:جار الله">نقاش</a>) 19:50، 1 أبريل 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u062c\u0627\u0631 \u0627\u0644\u0644\u0647|2020-04-01T19:50:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-01T19:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u062c\u0627\u0631 \u0627\u0644\u0644\u0647&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|جار الله|2020-04-01T19:50:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|باسم|2020-04-01T23:07:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span>مقالة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%BA%D8%B2%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8%D8%AD%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%B3%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%A9_%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%89_%D8%AC%D8%B2%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AA%D9%88%D8%B3%D8%B7" title="الغزوات البحرية الإسلامية على جزر المتوسط">الغزوات البحرية الإسلامية على جزر المتوسط</a></b> تخضع <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AC%D8%B9%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B2%D9%85%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%BA%D8%B2%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8%D8%AD%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%B3%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%A9_%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%89_%D8%AC%D8%B2%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AA%D9%88%D8%B3%D8%B7" title="ويكيبيديا:مراجعة الزملاء/الغزوات البحرية الإسلامية على جزر المتوسط">لِمُراجعة الزُملاء</a></b>، أتمنى سماع مُلاحظاتكم--<span style="font-family: Andalus; font-size: 18px; text-shadow: silver 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em;"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B3%D9%85" title="مستخدم:باسم"><span style="color:#004225;"><b>باسم</b></span></a><sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B3%D9%85" title="نقاش المستخدم:باسم"><b>راسلني (☎)</b></a></sup></span> 23:07، 1 أبريل 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0628\u0627\u0633\u0645|2020-04-01T23:07:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-01T23:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0628\u0627\u0633\u0645&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|باسم|2020-04-01T23:07:00.000Z|Abdeldjalil09|2020-02-20T21:53:00.000Z"></span></li></ol></div>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2018-08-01T00:08:00.000Z|الحرس_الملكي_الأردني"></span>مرحبًا، يمكن طبعًا استرجاع تعريف قوة خاصة أما المشاركة في  الحروب المختلفة فيمكن طلب توضيح أو مصدر. مع التحية.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">نقاش</a>) 00:08، 1 أغسطس 2018 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2018-08-01T00:08:00.000Z|\u0627\u0644\u062d\u0631\u0633_\u0627\u0644\u0645\u0644\u0643\u064a_\u0627\u0644\u0623\u0631\u062f\u0646\u064a&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-08-01T00:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2018-08-01T00:08:00.000Z|الحرس_الملكي_الأردني"></span>مرحبًا، يمكن طبعًا استرجاع تعريف قوة خاصة أما المشاركة في  الحروب المختلفة فيمكن طلب توضيح أو مصدر. مع التحية.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">نقاش</a>) 00:08، 1 أغسطس 2018 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2018-08-01T00:08:00.000Z|\u0627\u0644\u062d\u0631\u0633_\u0627\u0644\u0645\u0644\u0643\u064a_\u0627\u0644\u0623\u0631\u062f\u0646\u064a&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-08-01T00:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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 <pre>أتمنى لك دوام الصحة والعافية. 
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 <p>لقد لاحظت أن بيننا اهتماماً مشتركاً في ما يتعلق بمقالات الجيش العربي أسلحته وما إلى ذلك؛ وبحكم أنك صاحب خبرة في ويكيبيديا وأنك محرر ومسترجع فأنا أعرض عليك مشروعاً مشتركاً لتطوير مقالات الجيش العربي إلى أن تصبح له بوابة مستقلة، إذا أردت ذلك. وسأكون سعيداً بذلك زي التعلم من خبرتك الطويلة، كما أني أعدك أن ترى مني عملاً جميلاً وجهداً قلّ نظيره. أنتظر ردك الكريم!
-</p><p>>>أتمنى عليك قبل أن تسترجع أي تعديل لي في مقالات الجيش العربي أن تستفسر عن ذلك.  <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%87%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%88%D9%86_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B1%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A8%D9%8A&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="مستخدم:هارون الرشيد العربي (الصفحة غير موجودة)">الرشيد</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%87%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%88%D9%86_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B1%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A8%D9%8A" class="mw-redirect" title="نقاش المستخدم:هارون الرشيد العربي">نقاش</a>) 12:17، 6 أغسطس 2018 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0647\u0627\u0631\u0648\u0646 \u0627\u0644\u0631\u0634\u064a\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0639\u0631\u0628\u064a|2018-08-06T12:17:00.000Z|\u0627\u0644\u062c\u064a\u0634_\u0627\u0644\u0639\u0631\u0628\u064a&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-08-06T12:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0647\u0627\u0631\u0648\u0646 \u0627\u0644\u0631\u0634\u064a\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0639\u0631\u0628\u064a&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+</p><p>>>أتمنى عليك قبل أن تسترجع أي تعديل لي في مقالات الجيش العربي أن تستفسر عن ذلك.  <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%87%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%88%D9%86_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B1%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A8%D9%8A&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="مستخدم:هارون الرشيد العربي (الصفحة غير موجودة)">الرشيد</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%87%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%88%D9%86_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B1%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A8%D9%8A" class="mw-redirect" title="نقاش المستخدم:هارون الرشيد العربي">نقاش</a>) 12:17، 6 أغسطس 2018 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0647\u0627\u0631\u0648\u0646 \u0627\u0644\u0631\u0634\u064a\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0639\u0631\u0628\u064a|2018-08-06T12:17:00.000Z|\u0627\u0644\u062c\u064a\u0634_\u0627\u0644\u0639\u0631\u0628\u064a&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-08-06T12:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0647\u0627\u0631\u0648\u0646 \u0627\u0644\u0631\u0634\u064a\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0639\u0631\u0628\u064a&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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 <h2><span id=".D8.B1.D8.AF:_.D8.AF.D8.A7.D8.B9.D8.B4_.D8.A3.D9.85_.D8.A7.D9.84.D8.AF.D9.88.D9.84.D8.A9"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="رد:_داعش_أم_الدولة" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|\u0631\u062f:_\u062f\u0627\u0639\u0634_\u0623\u0645_\u0627\u0644\u062f\u0648\u0644\u0629|2018-08-07T05:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|\u0628\u0627\u0633\u0645|2018-08-07T05:43:00.000Z|\u0631\u062f:_\u062f\u0627\u0639\u0634_\u0623\u0645_\u0627\u0644\u062f\u0648\u0644\u0629&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|رد:_داعش_أم_الدولة|2018-08-07T05:43:00.000Z"></span>رد: داعش أم الدولة<span data-mw-comment-end="h|رد:_داعش_أم_الدولة|2018-08-07T05:43:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|باسم|2018-08-07T05:43:00.000Z|رد:_داعش_أم_الدولة"></span>مرحبتين. أنا بخير والحمد لله. من حيث المبدأ لا شيء رسمي يمنع استخدام هذا الاسم أو ذاك. أذكر أنَّ نقاشًا تحوَّل لجدال جرى مُنذ بضع سنوات قال فيه البعض أنه يُحبذ تسمية داعش كي لا يُلصق هذا التنظيم بالإسلام وأن بعض وسائل الإعلام تتعمَّد الإشارة إلى «الدولة الإسلاميَّة» للإساءة إلى الدين الإسلامي وأنَّ هذا غير مقبول، والبعض قال علينا استعمال الاسم الرسمي الذي يعتمده التنظيم فيكون بالتالي الدولة الإسلاميَّة، والبعض قال يجب استعمال الاسم الشائع المُتداول على ألسنة الناس، فهو داعش. شخصيًّا أميل لاعتماد داعش كي لا تكون الموسوعة مُجرَّد بوق إعلامي آخر. تحيَّاتي--<span style="font-family: Andalus; font-size: 18px; text-shadow: silver 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em;"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B3%D9%85" title="مستخدم:باسم"><span style="color:#004225;"><b>باسم</b></span></a><sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B3%D9%85" title="نقاش المستخدم:باسم"><b>راسلني (☎)</b></a></sup></span> 05:43، 7 أغسطس 2018 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0628\u0627\u0633\u0645|2018-08-07T05:43:00.000Z|\u0631\u062f:_\u062f\u0627\u0639\u0634_\u0623\u0645_\u0627\u0644\u062f\u0648\u0644\u0629&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-08-07T05:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0628\u0627\u0633\u0645&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|باسم|2018-08-07T05:43:00.000Z|رد:_داعش_أم_الدولة"></span>مرحبتين. أنا بخير والحمد لله. من حيث المبدأ لا شيء رسمي يمنع استخدام هذا الاسم أو ذاك. أذكر أنَّ نقاشًا تحوَّل لجدال جرى مُنذ بضع سنوات قال فيه البعض أنه يُحبذ تسمية داعش كي لا يُلصق هذا التنظيم بالإسلام وأن بعض وسائل الإعلام تتعمَّد الإشارة إلى «الدولة الإسلاميَّة» للإساءة إلى الدين الإسلامي وأنَّ هذا غير مقبول، والبعض قال علينا استعمال الاسم الرسمي الذي يعتمده التنظيم فيكون بالتالي الدولة الإسلاميَّة، والبعض قال يجب استعمال الاسم الشائع المُتداول على ألسنة الناس، فهو داعش. شخصيًّا أميل لاعتماد داعش كي لا تكون الموسوعة مُجرَّد بوق إعلامي آخر. تحيَّاتي--<span style="font-family: Andalus; font-size: 18px; text-shadow: silver 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em;"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B3%D9%85" title="مستخدم:باسم"><span style="color:#004225;"><b>باسم</b></span></a><sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B3%D9%85" title="نقاش المستخدم:باسم"><b>راسلني (☎)</b></a></sup></span> 05:43، 7 أغسطس 2018 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0628\u0627\u0633\u0645|2018-08-07T05:43:00.000Z|\u0631\u062f:_\u062f\u0627\u0639\u0634_\u0623\u0645_\u0627\u0644\u062f\u0648\u0644\u0629&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-08-07T05:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0628\u0627\u0633\u0645&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<div class="floatright"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D9%84%D9%81:Ambox_warning_pn.svg" class="image"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JarBot|2018-08-10T16:54:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ_تبديل_محتوى/شرح"></span><img alt="Ambox warning pn.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="42" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="445"/></a></div> مرحبًا. تم ترشيح الصفحة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D8%AA%D8%A8%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%84_%D9%85%D8%AD%D8%AA%D9%88%D9%89/%D8%B4%D8%B1%D8%AD&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="تبديل محتوى/شرح (الصفحة غير موجودة)">تبديل محتوى/شرح</a></b> التي قمتَ بإنشائها للحذف السريع؛ وذلك بسبب أنها مستوفية لواحد أو أكثر من <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%8A%D9%8A%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%B0%D9%81_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%B9" title="ويكيبيديا:معايير الحذف السريع">معايير الحذف السريع</a></b>، وهذا يعني أن الصفحة ستُحذف في أقرب وقت ممكن. إذا كان لديك اعتراض على عملية الترشيح، يُمكنك إضافة أي نقاط هامة في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D8%AA%D8%A8%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%84_%D9%85%D8%AD%D8%AA%D9%88%D9%89/%D8%B4%D8%B1%D8%AD&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="تبديل محتوى/شرح (الصفحة غير موجودة)">صفحة نقاش المقالة</a></b>، أو يُمكنك طلب استرجاعها إذا تم حذفها من خلال <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A5%D8%AE%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%8A%D9%86" title="ويكيبيديا:إخطار الإداريين">هذه الصفحة</a></b> -إذا كنتَ متأكدًا أن الصفحة غير مخالفة-. شكرًا لك. <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:JarBot" title="مستخدم:JarBot">JarBot</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:JarBot" class="mw-redirect" title="نقاش المستخدم:JarBot">نقاش</a>) 16:54، 10 أغسطس 2018 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JarBot|2018-08-10T16:54:00.000Z|\u062d\u0630\u0641_\u0633\u0631\u064a\u0639_\u0644\u0640_\u062a\u0628\u062f\u064a\u0644_\u0645\u062d\u062a\u0648\u0649\/\u0634\u0631\u062d&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-08-10T16:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JarBot&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<div class="floatright"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D9%84%D9%81:Ambox_warning_pn.svg" class="image"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JarBot|2018-08-10T16:54:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ_تبديل_محتوى/شرح"></span><img alt="Ambox warning pn.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="42" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="445"/></a></div> مرحبًا. تم ترشيح الصفحة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D8%AA%D8%A8%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%84_%D9%85%D8%AD%D8%AA%D9%88%D9%89/%D8%B4%D8%B1%D8%AD&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="تبديل محتوى/شرح (الصفحة غير موجودة)">تبديل محتوى/شرح</a></b> التي قمتَ بإنشائها للحذف السريع؛ وذلك بسبب أنها مستوفية لواحد أو أكثر من <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%8A%D9%8A%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%B0%D9%81_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%B9" title="ويكيبيديا:معايير الحذف السريع">معايير الحذف السريع</a></b>، وهذا يعني أن الصفحة ستُحذف في أقرب وقت ممكن. إذا كان لديك اعتراض على عملية الترشيح، يُمكنك إضافة أي نقاط هامة في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D8%AA%D8%A8%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%84_%D9%85%D8%AD%D8%AA%D9%88%D9%89/%D8%B4%D8%B1%D8%AD&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="تبديل محتوى/شرح (الصفحة غير موجودة)">صفحة نقاش المقالة</a></b>، أو يُمكنك طلب استرجاعها إذا تم حذفها من خلال <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A5%D8%AE%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%8A%D9%86" title="ويكيبيديا:إخطار الإداريين">هذه الصفحة</a></b> -إذا كنتَ متأكدًا أن الصفحة غير مخالفة-. شكرًا لك. <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:JarBot" title="مستخدم:JarBot">JarBot</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:JarBot" class="mw-redirect" title="نقاش المستخدم:JarBot">نقاش</a>) 16:54، 10 أغسطس 2018 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JarBot|2018-08-10T16:54:00.000Z|\u062d\u0630\u0641_\u0633\u0631\u064a\u0639_\u0644\u0640_\u062a\u0628\u062f\u064a\u0644_\u0645\u062d\u062a\u0648\u0649\/\u0634\u0631\u062d&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-08-10T16:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JarBot&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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 <td align="center"><br/> تهانينا لك <br/> <b>Khaled</b><br/> تستحق هذا الوسام <br/> لحصولك على <b><span style="color:#000;">المركز الأول</span></b> <br/> <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85%D9%88_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B3%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D9%83%D8%AB%D8%B1_%D9%86%D8%B4%D8%A7%D8%B7%D8%A7/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B3%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B9_%D8%A7%D9%8432_2018" title="ويكيبيديا:مستخدمو الأسبوع الأكثر نشاطا/الأسبوع ال32 2018"><span style="color:blue">بعدد مراجعة التعديلات المعلقة</span></a></b><br/> شكراً لجهودك. <br/><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%AC%D8%AA%D9%85%D8%B9_%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="ويكيبيديا:مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربية"><b>مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربية</b></a>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Tik Tik|2018-08-15T15:58:00.000Z|طلبات_مراجعة_المقالات"></span>مرحبا Khaled ...توجد عديد من طلبات مراجعة المقالات لم تراجع من قبل محررين ..يرجى مراجعتها و شكرا --<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Tik_Tik" title="مستخدم:Tik Tik">Tik Tik</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Tik_Tik" title="نقاش المستخدم:Tik Tik">نقاش</a>) 15:58، 15 أغسطس 2018 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Tik Tik|2018-08-15T15:58:00.000Z|\u0637\u0644\u0628\u0627\u062a_\u0645\u0631\u0627\u062c\u0639\u0629_\u0627\u0644\u0645\u0642\u0627\u0644\u0627\u062a&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-08-15T15:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Tik Tik&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Tik Tik|2018-08-15T15:58:00.000Z|طلبات_مراجعة_المقالات"></span>مرحبا Khaled ...توجد عديد من طلبات مراجعة المقالات لم تراجع من قبل محررين ..يرجى مراجعتها و شكرا --<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Tik_Tik" title="مستخدم:Tik Tik">Tik Tik</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Tik_Tik" title="نقاش المستخدم:Tik Tik">نقاش</a>) 15:58، 15 أغسطس 2018 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Tik Tik|2018-08-15T15:58:00.000Z|\u0637\u0644\u0628\u0627\u062a_\u0645\u0631\u0627\u062c\u0639\u0629_\u0627\u0644\u0645\u0642\u0627\u0644\u0627\u062a&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-08-15T15:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Tik Tik&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Anabta.pal|2018-08-19T16:36:00.000Z|طلب_/_قبول_تعديلات_معلقة"></span>تحياتي لك اخي العزيز
 ارجو قبول التعديلات المعلقة في مقالة <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%B1%D9%83%D8%A9_%D8%B9%D9%86%D8%A8%D8%AA%D8%A7" title="معركة عنبتا">معركة عنبتا</a> مع الشكر
-تحياتي لك--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Anabta.pal" title="مستخدم:Anabta.pal">Anabta.pal</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Anabta.pal" title="نقاش المستخدم:Anabta.pal">نقاش</a>) 16:36، 19 أغسطس 2018 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Anabta.pal|2018-08-19T16:36:00.000Z|\u0637\u0644\u0628_\/_\u0642\u0628\u0648\u0644_\u062a\u0639\u062f\u064a\u0644\u0627\u062a_\u0645\u0639\u0644\u0642\u0629&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-08-19T16:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Anabta.pal&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+تحياتي لك--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Anabta.pal" title="مستخدم:Anabta.pal">Anabta.pal</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Anabta.pal" title="نقاش المستخدم:Anabta.pal">نقاش</a>) 16:36، 19 أغسطس 2018 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Anabta.pal|2018-08-19T16:36:00.000Z|\u0637\u0644\u0628_\/_\u0642\u0628\u0648\u0644_\u062a\u0639\u062f\u064a\u0644\u0627\u062a_\u0645\u0639\u0644\u0642\u0629&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-08-19T16:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Anabta.pal&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Tik Tik|2018-08-19T21:00:00.000Z|طلبات_مراجعة_المقالات_2"></span>مرحبا من جديد Khaled ...هناك طلبات مراجعة المقالات جديدة..يرجى منك مراجعتها و شكرا.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Tik_Tik" title="مستخدم:Tik Tik">Tik Tik</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Tik_Tik" title="نقاش المستخدم:Tik Tik">نقاش</a>) 21:00، 19 أغسطس 2018 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Tik Tik|2018-08-19T21:00:00.000Z|\u0637\u0644\u0628\u0627\u062a_\u0645\u0631\u0627\u062c\u0639\u0629_\u0627\u0644\u0645\u0642\u0627\u0644\u0627\u062a_2&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-08-19T21:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Tik Tik&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Tik Tik|2018-08-19T21:00:00.000Z|طلبات_مراجعة_المقالات_2"></span>مرحبا من جديد Khaled ...هناك طلبات مراجعة المقالات جديدة..يرجى منك مراجعتها و شكرا.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Tik_Tik" title="مستخدم:Tik Tik">Tik Tik</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Tik_Tik" title="نقاش المستخدم:Tik Tik">نقاش</a>) 21:00، 19 أغسطس 2018 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Tik Tik|2018-08-19T21:00:00.000Z|\u0637\u0644\u0628\u0627\u062a_\u0645\u0631\u0627\u062c\u0639\u0629_\u0627\u0644\u0645\u0642\u0627\u0644\u0627\u062a_2&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-08-19T21:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Tik Tik&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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 <td align="center"><br/> تهانينا لك <br/> <b>Khaled</b><br/> تستحق هذا الوسام <br/> لحصولك على <b><span style="color:#000;">المركز الثالث</span></b> <br/> <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85%D9%88_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B3%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D9%83%D8%AB%D8%B1_%D9%86%D8%B4%D8%A7%D8%B7%D8%A7/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B3%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B9_%D8%A7%D9%8433_2018" title="ويكيبيديا:مستخدمو الأسبوع الأكثر نشاطا/الأسبوع ال33 2018"><span style="color:blue">بعدد التعديلات هذا الأسبوع</span></a></b><br/> شكراً لجهودك. <br/><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%AC%D8%AA%D9%85%D8%B9_%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="ويكيبيديا:مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربية"><b>مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربية</b></a>
 </td></tr></tbody></table> 7:04، 20 أغسطس 2018  (ت ع م)
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Mervat|2018-08-20T09:55:00.000Z|ملاحظة"></span>مرحبا، أليس الأفضل تسمية <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D8%B4%D8%B1%D9%85_%D9%83%D9%88%D9%83%D8%AA%D9%8A%D9%84&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="شرم كوكتيل (الصفحة غير موجودة)">شرم كوكتيل</a> بكوكتيل الجمبري؟ --<b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85%D8%A9:Mervat" title="مستخدمة:Mervat"><span style="color:#C71585; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 15px; text-shadow: silver 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em;">Mervat</span></a></b> <sup><b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85%D8%A9:Mervat" title="نقاش المستخدمة:Mervat">ناقش</a></b></sup> 09:55، 20 أغسطس 2018 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mervat|2018-08-20T09:55:00.000Z|\u0645\u0644\u0627\u062d\u0638\u0629&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-08-20T09:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mervat&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Mervat|2018-08-20T09:55:00.000Z|ملاحظة"></span>مرحبا، أليس الأفضل تسمية <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D8%B4%D8%B1%D9%85_%D9%83%D9%88%D9%83%D8%AA%D9%8A%D9%84&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="شرم كوكتيل (الصفحة غير موجودة)">شرم كوكتيل</a> بكوكتيل الجمبري؟ --<b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85%D8%A9:Mervat" title="مستخدمة:Mervat"><span style="color:#C71585; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 15px; text-shadow: silver 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em;">Mervat</span></a></b> <sup><b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85%D8%A9:Mervat" title="نقاش المستخدمة:Mervat">ناقش</a></b></sup> 09:55، 20 أغسطس 2018 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mervat|2018-08-20T09:55:00.000Z|\u0645\u0644\u0627\u062d\u0638\u0629&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-08-20T09:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mervat&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Dr-Taher|2018-08-20T12:55:00.000Z|مراجعة_المقالات"></span>السلام عليكم. لاحظت قيامك بوسم <a class="external text" href="https://ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D8%AB%D9%8A%D8%AB%D9%8A%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%A7_%D8%AC%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%B1%D8%B3%D9%88%D9%86&amp;action=history"><b>هذه المقالة</b></a> بالمراجعة، في حين أنها "ترجمة آلية" وتحتاج إلى تصويبات كثيرة، على سبيل المثال: المقالة تتحدث عن إمرأة وورد فيها (كان طبيبًا أرجنتينيًا ، ومصلحا ، و<u>فريثينكر</u> بارزًا)، وأيضا عبارة (أنفقت غريرسون طفولتها المبكرة على استصلاح عائلتها في مقاطعة إنتري )! وغيرها من العبارات التي تحتاج إلى إصلاح. لذا أرجو إما ان توجه من أنشأ المقالة إلى إصلاحها او تقوم بهذه الإصلاحات قبل وسم المقالة بالمراجعة. شكرا لك. --<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Dr-Taher" title="مستخدم:Dr-Taher">Dr-Taher</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Dr-Taher" title="نقاش المستخدم:Dr-Taher">نقاش</a>) 12:55، 20 أغسطس 2018 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Dr-Taher|2018-08-20T12:55:00.000Z|\u0645\u0631\u0627\u062c\u0639\u0629_\u0627\u0644\u0645\u0642\u0627\u0644\u0627\u062a&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-08-20T12:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Dr-Taher&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Dr-Taher|2018-08-20T12:55:00.000Z|مراجعة_المقالات"></span>السلام عليكم. لاحظت قيامك بوسم <a class="external text" href="https://ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D8%AB%D9%8A%D8%AB%D9%8A%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%A7_%D8%AC%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%B1%D8%B3%D9%88%D9%86&amp;action=history"><b>هذه المقالة</b></a> بالمراجعة، في حين أنها "ترجمة آلية" وتحتاج إلى تصويبات كثيرة، على سبيل المثال: المقالة تتحدث عن إمرأة وورد فيها (كان طبيبًا أرجنتينيًا ، ومصلحا ، و<u>فريثينكر</u> بارزًا)، وأيضا عبارة (أنفقت غريرسون طفولتها المبكرة على استصلاح عائلتها في مقاطعة إنتري )! وغيرها من العبارات التي تحتاج إلى إصلاح. لذا أرجو إما ان توجه من أنشأ المقالة إلى إصلاحها او تقوم بهذه الإصلاحات قبل وسم المقالة بالمراجعة. شكرا لك. --<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Dr-Taher" title="مستخدم:Dr-Taher">Dr-Taher</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Dr-Taher" title="نقاش المستخدم:Dr-Taher">نقاش</a>) 12:55، 20 أغسطس 2018 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Dr-Taher|2018-08-20T12:55:00.000Z|\u0645\u0631\u0627\u062c\u0639\u0629_\u0627\u0644\u0645\u0642\u0627\u0644\u0627\u062a&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-08-20T12:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Dr-Taher&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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 <h2><span id=".D8.AA.D9.87.D8.A7.D9.86.D9.8A.D9.86.D8.A7_9"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="تهانينا_9" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|\u062a\u0647\u0627\u0646\u064a\u0646\u0627_9&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|تهانينا_9"></span>تهانينا<span data-mw-comment-end="h|تهانينا_9"></span></span></h2>
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 <td align="center"><br/> تهانينا لك <br/> <b>Khaled</b><br/> تستحق هذا الوسام <br/> لحصولك على <b><span style="color:#000;">المركز الأول</span></b> <br/> <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85%D9%88_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B3%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D9%83%D8%AB%D8%B1_%D9%86%D8%B4%D8%A7%D8%B7%D8%A7/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B3%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B9_%D8%A7%D9%8434_2018" title="ويكيبيديا:مستخدمو الأسبوع الأكثر نشاطا/الأسبوع ال34 2018"><span style="color:blue">بعدد مراجعة التعديلات المعلقة</span></a></b><br/> شكراً لجهودك. <br/><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%AC%D8%AA%D9%85%D8%B9_%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="ويكيبيديا:مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربية"><b>مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربية</b></a>
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 <h2><span id=".D8.AD.D8.B0.D9.81_.D8.B3.D8.B1.D9.8A.D8.B9_.D9.84.D9.80_.D8.A7.D9.84.D8.B1.D9.85.D8.AD_.D8.A7.D9.84.D8.B3.D8.AD.D8.B1.D9.8A.D8.A9"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="حذف_سريع_لـ_الرمح_السحرية" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|\u062d\u0630\u0641_\u0633\u0631\u064a\u0639_\u0644\u0640_\u0627\u0644\u0631\u0645\u062d_\u0627\u0644\u0633\u062d\u0631\u064a\u0629|2018-09-04T17:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|JarBot|2018-09-04T17:48:00.000Z|\u062d\u0630\u0641_\u0633\u0631\u064a\u0639_\u0644\u0640_\u0627\u0644\u0631\u0645\u062d_\u0627\u0644\u0633\u062d\u0631\u064a\u0629&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|حذف_سريع_لـ_الرمح_السحرية|2018-09-04T17:48:00.000Z"></span>حذف سريع لـ <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B1%D9%85%D8%AD_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%AD%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%A9&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="الرمح السحرية (الصفحة غير موجودة)">الرمح السحرية</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h|حذف_سريع_لـ_الرمح_السحرية|2018-09-04T17:48:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<div class="floatright"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D9%84%D9%81:Ambox_warning_pn.svg" class="image"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JarBot|2018-09-04T17:48:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ_الرمح_السحرية"></span><img alt="Ambox warning pn.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="42" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="445"/></a></div> مرحبًا. تم ترشيح الصفحة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B1%D9%85%D8%AD_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%AD%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%A9&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="الرمح السحرية (الصفحة غير موجودة)">الرمح السحرية</a></b> التي قمتَ بإنشائها للحذف السريع؛ وذلك بسبب أنها مستوفية لواحد أو أكثر من <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%8A%D9%8A%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%B0%D9%81_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%B9" title="ويكيبيديا:معايير الحذف السريع">معايير الحذف السريع</a></b>، وهذا يعني أن الصفحة ستُحذف في أقرب وقت ممكن. إذا كان لديك اعتراض على عملية الترشيح، يُمكنك إضافة أي نقاط هامة في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B1%D9%85%D8%AD_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%AD%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%A9&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="الرمح السحرية (الصفحة غير موجودة)">صفحة نقاش المقالة</a></b>، أو يُمكنك طلب استرجاعها إذا تم حذفها من خلال <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A5%D8%AE%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%8A%D9%86" title="ويكيبيديا:إخطار الإداريين">هذه الصفحة</a></b> -إذا كنتَ متأكدًا أن الصفحة غير مخالفة-. شكرًا لك. <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:JarBot" title="مستخدم:JarBot">JarBot</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:JarBot" class="mw-redirect" title="نقاش المستخدم:JarBot">نقاش</a>) 17:48، 4 سبتمبر 2018 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JarBot|2018-09-04T17:48:00.000Z|\u062d\u0630\u0641_\u0633\u0631\u064a\u0639_\u0644\u0640_\u0627\u0644\u0631\u0645\u062d_\u0627\u0644\u0633\u062d\u0631\u064a\u0629&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-09-04T17:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JarBot&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<div class="floatright"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D9%84%D9%81:Ambox_warning_pn.svg" class="image"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JarBot|2018-09-04T17:48:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ_الرمح_السحرية"></span><img alt="Ambox warning pn.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="42" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="445"/></a></div> مرحبًا. تم ترشيح الصفحة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B1%D9%85%D8%AD_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%AD%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%A9&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="الرمح السحرية (الصفحة غير موجودة)">الرمح السحرية</a></b> التي قمتَ بإنشائها للحذف السريع؛ وذلك بسبب أنها مستوفية لواحد أو أكثر من <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%8A%D9%8A%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%B0%D9%81_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%B9" title="ويكيبيديا:معايير الحذف السريع">معايير الحذف السريع</a></b>، وهذا يعني أن الصفحة ستُحذف في أقرب وقت ممكن. إذا كان لديك اعتراض على عملية الترشيح، يُمكنك إضافة أي نقاط هامة في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B1%D9%85%D8%AD_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%AD%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%A9&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="الرمح السحرية (الصفحة غير موجودة)">صفحة نقاش المقالة</a></b>، أو يُمكنك طلب استرجاعها إذا تم حذفها من خلال <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A5%D8%AE%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%8A%D9%86" title="ويكيبيديا:إخطار الإداريين">هذه الصفحة</a></b> -إذا كنتَ متأكدًا أن الصفحة غير مخالفة-. شكرًا لك. <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:JarBot" title="مستخدم:JarBot">JarBot</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:JarBot" class="mw-redirect" title="نقاش المستخدم:JarBot">نقاش</a>) 17:48، 4 سبتمبر 2018 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JarBot|2018-09-04T17:48:00.000Z|\u062d\u0630\u0641_\u0633\u0631\u064a\u0639_\u0644\u0640_\u0627\u0644\u0631\u0645\u062d_\u0627\u0644\u0633\u062d\u0631\u064a\u0629&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-09-04T17:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JarBot&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
 <h2><span id=".D8.AD.D8.B0.D9.81_.D8.B3.D8.B1.D9.8A.D8.B9_.D9.84.D9.80_.D8.A8.D9.88.D8.A7.D8.A8.D8.A9:.D9.87.D8.A7.D9.85.D8.A8.D9.88.D8.B1.D8.BA.2F.D9.85.D8.B9.D9.84.D9.85_.D9.85.D8.AE.D8.AA.D8.A7.D8.B1.D8.A9"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="حذف_سريع_لـ_بوابة:هامبورغ/معلم_مختارة" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|\u062d\u0630\u0641_\u0633\u0631\u064a\u0639_\u0644\u0640_\u0628\u0648\u0627\u0628\u0629:\u0647\u0627\u0645\u0628\u0648\u0631\u063a\/\u0645\u0639\u0644\u0645_\u0645\u062e\u062a\u0627\u0631\u0629|2018-10-10T15:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|JarBot|2018-10-10T15:30:00.000Z|\u062d\u0630\u0641_\u0633\u0631\u064a\u0639_\u0644\u0640_\u0628\u0648\u0627\u0628\u0629:\u0647\u0627\u0645\u0628\u0648\u0631\u063a\/\u0645\u0639\u0644\u0645_\u0645\u062e\u062a\u0627\u0631\u0629&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|حذف_سريع_لـ_بوابة:هامبورغ/معلم_مختارة|2018-10-10T15:30:00.000Z"></span>حذف سريع لـ <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%A8%D8%A9:%D9%87%D8%A7%D9%85%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%BA/%D9%85%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%85_%D9%85%D8%AE%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A9&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="بوابة:هامبورغ/معلم مختارة (الصفحة غير موجودة)">بوابة:هامبورغ/معلم مختارة</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h|حذف_سريع_لـ_بوابة:هامبورغ/معلم_مختارة|2018-10-10T15:30:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<div class="floatright"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D9%84%D9%81:Ambox_warning_pn.svg" class="image"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JarBot|2018-10-10T15:30:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ_بوابة:هامبورغ/معلم_مختارة"></span><img alt="Ambox warning pn.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="42" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="445"/></a></div> مرحبًا. تم ترشيح الصفحة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%A8%D8%A9:%D9%87%D8%A7%D9%85%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%BA/%D9%85%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%85_%D9%85%D8%AE%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A9&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="بوابة:هامبورغ/معلم مختارة (الصفحة غير موجودة)">بوابة:هامبورغ/معلم مختارة</a></b> التي قمتَ بإنشائها للحذف السريع؛ وذلك بسبب أنها مستوفية لواحد أو أكثر من <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%8A%D9%8A%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%B0%D9%81_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%B9" title="ويكيبيديا:معايير الحذف السريع">معايير الحذف السريع</a></b>، وهذا يعني أن الصفحة ستُحذف في أقرب وقت ممكن. إذا كان لديك اعتراض على عملية الترشيح، يُمكنك إضافة أي نقاط هامة في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%A8%D8%A9:%D9%87%D8%A7%D9%85%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%BA/%D9%85%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%85_%D9%85%D8%AE%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A9&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="بوابة:هامبورغ/معلم مختارة (الصفحة غير موجودة)">صفحة نقاش المقالة</a></b>، أو يُمكنك طلب استرجاعها إذا تم حذفها من خلال <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A5%D8%AE%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%8A%D9%86" title="ويكيبيديا:إخطار الإداريين">هذه الصفحة</a></b> -إذا كنتَ متأكدًا أن الصفحة غير مخالفة-. شكرًا لك. <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:JarBot" title="مستخدم:JarBot">JarBot</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:JarBot" class="mw-redirect" title="نقاش المستخدم:JarBot">نقاش</a>) 15:30، 10 أكتوبر 2018 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JarBot|2018-10-10T15:30:00.000Z|\u062d\u0630\u0641_\u0633\u0631\u064a\u0639_\u0644\u0640_\u0628\u0648\u0627\u0628\u0629:\u0647\u0627\u0645\u0628\u0648\u0631\u063a\/\u0645\u0639\u0644\u0645_\u0645\u062e\u062a\u0627\u0631\u0629&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-10T15:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JarBot&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<div class="floatright"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D9%84%D9%81:Ambox_warning_pn.svg" class="image"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JarBot|2018-10-10T15:30:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ_بوابة:هامبورغ/معلم_مختارة"></span><img alt="Ambox warning pn.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="42" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="445"/></a></div> مرحبًا. تم ترشيح الصفحة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%A8%D8%A9:%D9%87%D8%A7%D9%85%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%BA/%D9%85%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%85_%D9%85%D8%AE%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A9&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="بوابة:هامبورغ/معلم مختارة (الصفحة غير موجودة)">بوابة:هامبورغ/معلم مختارة</a></b> التي قمتَ بإنشائها للحذف السريع؛ وذلك بسبب أنها مستوفية لواحد أو أكثر من <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%8A%D9%8A%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%B0%D9%81_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%B9" title="ويكيبيديا:معايير الحذف السريع">معايير الحذف السريع</a></b>، وهذا يعني أن الصفحة ستُحذف في أقرب وقت ممكن. إذا كان لديك اعتراض على عملية الترشيح، يُمكنك إضافة أي نقاط هامة في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%A8%D8%A9:%D9%87%D8%A7%D9%85%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%BA/%D9%85%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%85_%D9%85%D8%AE%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A9&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="بوابة:هامبورغ/معلم مختارة (الصفحة غير موجودة)">صفحة نقاش المقالة</a></b>، أو يُمكنك طلب استرجاعها إذا تم حذفها من خلال <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A5%D8%AE%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%8A%D9%86" title="ويكيبيديا:إخطار الإداريين">هذه الصفحة</a></b> -إذا كنتَ متأكدًا أن الصفحة غير مخالفة-. شكرًا لك. <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:JarBot" title="مستخدم:JarBot">JarBot</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:JarBot" class="mw-redirect" title="نقاش المستخدم:JarBot">نقاش</a>) 15:30، 10 أكتوبر 2018 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JarBot|2018-10-10T15:30:00.000Z|\u062d\u0630\u0641_\u0633\u0631\u064a\u0639_\u0644\u0640_\u0628\u0648\u0627\u0628\u0629:\u0647\u0627\u0645\u0628\u0648\u0631\u063a\/\u0645\u0639\u0644\u0645_\u0645\u062e\u062a\u0627\u0631\u0629&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-10T15:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JarBot&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Dr-Taher|2018-12-02T22:07:00.000Z|مراجعة_المقالات-2"></span>السلام عليكم. طالعت تاريخ مقالة <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%AA%D9%83%D8%B1%D8%B3%D9%8A%D9%81%D8%AA_(%D8%A3%D8%B3%D9%83%D8%AC%D9%88%D8%B1)" title="تكرسيفت (أسكجور)">تكرسيفت (أسكجور)</a> فوجدت أنك قد وسمت <a class="external text" href="https://ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D8%AA%D9%83%D8%B1%D8%B3%D9%8A%D9%81%D8%AA_%28%D8%A3%D8%B3%D9%83%D8%AC%D9%88%D8%B1%29&amp;type=revision&amp;diff=28299545&amp;oldid=27570559"><b>هذا التعديل</b></a> بالقبول! هل ترى أنه مناسب؟ أرجو مراعاة الدقة في وسم المقالات ومراجعتها لأنه غالبا لن يقوم أحد بالمراجعة بعدك لكونك محررا. 
-ملحوظة: أرسلت لك رسالة شبيهة أعلاه ولكن لم أتلقى منك ردا حولها. شكرا لك. --<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Dr-Taher" title="مستخدم:Dr-Taher">Dr-Taher</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Dr-Taher" title="نقاش المستخدم:Dr-Taher">نقاش</a>) 22:07، 2 ديسمبر 2018 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Dr-Taher|2018-12-02T22:07:00.000Z|\u0645\u0631\u0627\u062c\u0639\u0629_\u0627\u0644\u0645\u0642\u0627\u0644\u0627\u062a-2&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-12-02T22:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Dr-Taher&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+ملحوظة: أرسلت لك رسالة شبيهة أعلاه ولكن لم أتلقى منك ردا حولها. شكرا لك. --<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Dr-Taher" title="مستخدم:Dr-Taher">Dr-Taher</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Dr-Taher" title="نقاش المستخدم:Dr-Taher">نقاش</a>) 22:07، 2 ديسمبر 2018 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Dr-Taher|2018-12-02T22:07:00.000Z|\u0645\u0631\u0627\u062c\u0639\u0629_\u0627\u0644\u0645\u0642\u0627\u0644\u0627\u062a-2&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-12-02T22:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Dr-Taher&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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 <h2><span id=".D8.AD.D8.B0.D9.81_.D8.B3.D8.B1.D9.8A.D8.B9_.D9.84.D9.80_.D8.A8.D9.88.D8.A7.D8.A8.D8.A9:.D8.AF.D9.8A.D9.86.D8.A7.D8.B5.D9.88.D8.B1.D8.A7.D8.AA"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="حذف_سريع_لـ_بوابة:ديناصورات" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|\u062d\u0630\u0641_\u0633\u0631\u064a\u0639_\u0644\u0640_\u0628\u0648\u0627\u0628\u0629:\u062f\u064a\u0646\u0627\u0635\u0648\u0631\u0627\u062a|2019-01-04T21:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|JarBot|2019-01-04T21:06:00.000Z|\u062d\u0630\u0641_\u0633\u0631\u064a\u0639_\u0644\u0640_\u0628\u0648\u0627\u0628\u0629:\u062f\u064a\u0646\u0627\u0635\u0648\u0631\u0627\u062a&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|حذف_سريع_لـ_بوابة:ديناصورات|2019-01-04T21:06:00.000Z"></span>حذف سريع لـ <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%A8%D8%A9:%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%B5%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AA" title="بوابة:ديناصورات">بوابة:ديناصورات</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h|حذف_سريع_لـ_بوابة:ديناصورات|2019-01-04T21:06:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<div class="floatright"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D9%84%D9%81:Ambox_warning_pn.svg" class="image"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JarBot|2019-01-04T21:06:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ_بوابة:ديناصورات"></span><img alt="Ambox warning pn.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="42" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="445"/></a></div> مرحبًا. تم ترشيح الصفحة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%A8%D8%A9:%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%B5%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AA" title="بوابة:ديناصورات">بوابة:ديناصورات</a></b> التي قمتَ بإنشائها للحذف السريع؛ وذلك بسبب أنها مستوفية لواحد أو أكثر من <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%8A%D9%8A%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%B0%D9%81_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%B9" title="ويكيبيديا:معايير الحذف السريع">معايير الحذف السريع</a></b>، وهذا يعني أن الصفحة ستُحذف في أقرب وقت ممكن. إذا كان لديك اعتراض على عملية الترشيح، يُمكنك إضافة أي نقاط هامة في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%A8%D8%A9:%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%B5%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AA" title="بوابة:ديناصورات">صفحة نقاش المقالة</a></b>، أو يُمكنك طلب استرجاعها إذا تم حذفها من خلال <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A5%D8%AE%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%8A%D9%86" title="ويكيبيديا:إخطار الإداريين">هذه الصفحة</a></b> -إذا كنتَ متأكدًا أن الصفحة غير مخالفة-. شكرًا لك. <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:JarBot" title="مستخدم:JarBot">JarBot</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:JarBot" class="mw-redirect" title="نقاش المستخدم:JarBot">نقاش</a>) 21:06، 4 يناير 2019 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JarBot|2019-01-04T21:06:00.000Z|\u062d\u0630\u0641_\u0633\u0631\u064a\u0639_\u0644\u0640_\u0628\u0648\u0627\u0628\u0629:\u062f\u064a\u0646\u0627\u0635\u0648\u0631\u0627\u062a&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-01-04T21:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JarBot&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<div class="floatright"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D9%84%D9%81:Ambox_warning_pn.svg" class="image"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JarBot|2019-01-04T21:06:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ_بوابة:ديناصورات"></span><img alt="Ambox warning pn.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="42" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="445"/></a></div> مرحبًا. تم ترشيح الصفحة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%A8%D8%A9:%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%B5%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AA" title="بوابة:ديناصورات">بوابة:ديناصورات</a></b> التي قمتَ بإنشائها للحذف السريع؛ وذلك بسبب أنها مستوفية لواحد أو أكثر من <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%8A%D9%8A%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%B0%D9%81_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%B9" title="ويكيبيديا:معايير الحذف السريع">معايير الحذف السريع</a></b>، وهذا يعني أن الصفحة ستُحذف في أقرب وقت ممكن. إذا كان لديك اعتراض على عملية الترشيح، يُمكنك إضافة أي نقاط هامة في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%A8%D8%A9:%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%B5%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AA" title="بوابة:ديناصورات">صفحة نقاش المقالة</a></b>، أو يُمكنك طلب استرجاعها إذا تم حذفها من خلال <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A5%D8%AE%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%8A%D9%86" title="ويكيبيديا:إخطار الإداريين">هذه الصفحة</a></b> -إذا كنتَ متأكدًا أن الصفحة غير مخالفة-. شكرًا لك. <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:JarBot" title="مستخدم:JarBot">JarBot</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:JarBot" class="mw-redirect" title="نقاش المستخدم:JarBot">نقاش</a>) 21:06، 4 يناير 2019 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JarBot|2019-01-04T21:06:00.000Z|\u062d\u0630\u0641_\u0633\u0631\u064a\u0639_\u0644\u0640_\u0628\u0648\u0627\u0628\u0629:\u062f\u064a\u0646\u0627\u0635\u0648\u0631\u0627\u062a&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-01-04T21:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JarBot&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
 <h2><span id=".D8.AD.D8.B0.D9.81_.D8.B3.D8.B1.D9.8A.D8.B9_.D9.84.D9.80_.D8.A8.D9.88.D8.A7.D8.A8.D8.A9:.D8.B4.D8.B1.D9.83.D8.A7.D8.AA.2F.D9.85.D8.B5.D8.B7.D9.84.D8.AD_.D8.AA.D8.AC.D8.A7.D8.B1.D9.8A.2F.D8.A3.D8.B1.D8.B4.D9.8A.D9.81"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="حذف_سريع_لـ_بوابة:شركات/مصطلح_تجاري/أرشيف" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|\u062d\u0630\u0641_\u0633\u0631\u064a\u0639_\u0644\u0640_\u0628\u0648\u0627\u0628\u0629:\u0634\u0631\u0643\u0627\u062a\/\u0645\u0635\u0637\u0644\u062d_\u062a\u062c\u0627\u0631\u064a\/\u0623\u0631\u0634\u064a\u0641|2019-03-01T13:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|JarBot|2019-03-01T13:37:00.000Z|\u062d\u0630\u0641_\u0633\u0631\u064a\u0639_\u0644\u0640_\u0628\u0648\u0627\u0628\u0629:\u0634\u0631\u0643\u0627\u062a\/\u0645\u0635\u0637\u0644\u062d_\u062a\u062c\u0627\u0631\u064a\/\u0623\u0631\u0634\u064a\u0641&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|حذف_سريع_لـ_بوابة:شركات/مصطلح_تجاري/أرشيف|2019-03-01T13:37:00.000Z"></span>حذف سريع لـ <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%A8%D8%A9:%D8%B4%D8%B1%D9%83%D8%A7%D8%AA/%D9%85%D8%B5%D8%B7%D9%84%D8%AD_%D8%AA%D8%AC%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%8A/%D8%A3%D8%B1%D8%B4%D9%8A%D9%81" title="بوابة:شركات/مصطلح تجاري/أرشيف">بوابة:شركات/مصطلح تجاري/أرشيف</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h|حذف_سريع_لـ_بوابة:شركات/مصطلح_تجاري/أرشيف|2019-03-01T13:37:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<div class="floatright"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D9%84%D9%81:Ambox_warning_pn.svg" class="image"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JarBot|2019-03-01T13:37:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ_بوابة:شركات/مصطلح_تجاري/أرشيف"></span><img alt="Ambox warning pn.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="42" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="445"/></a></div> مرحبًا. تم ترشيح الصفحة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%A8%D8%A9:%D8%B4%D8%B1%D9%83%D8%A7%D8%AA/%D9%85%D8%B5%D8%B7%D9%84%D8%AD_%D8%AA%D8%AC%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%8A/%D8%A3%D8%B1%D8%B4%D9%8A%D9%81" title="بوابة:شركات/مصطلح تجاري/أرشيف">بوابة:شركات/مصطلح تجاري/أرشيف</a></b> التي قمتَ بإنشائها للحذف السريع؛ وذلك بسبب أنها مستوفية لواحد أو أكثر من <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%8A%D9%8A%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%B0%D9%81_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%B9" title="ويكيبيديا:معايير الحذف السريع">معايير الحذف السريع</a></b>، وهذا يعني أن الصفحة ستُحذف في أقرب وقت ممكن. إذا كان لديك اعتراض على عملية الترشيح، يُمكنك إضافة أي نقاط هامة في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%A8%D8%A9:%D8%B4%D8%B1%D9%83%D8%A7%D8%AA/%D9%85%D8%B5%D8%B7%D9%84%D8%AD_%D8%AA%D8%AC%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%8A/%D8%A3%D8%B1%D8%B4%D9%8A%D9%81" title="بوابة:شركات/مصطلح تجاري/أرشيف">صفحة نقاش المقالة</a></b>، أو يُمكنك طلب استرجاعها إذا تم حذفها من خلال <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A5%D8%AE%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%8A%D9%86" title="ويكيبيديا:إخطار الإداريين">هذه الصفحة</a></b> -إذا كنتَ متأكدًا أن الصفحة غير مخالفة-. شكرًا لك. <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:JarBot" title="مستخدم:JarBot">JarBot</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:JarBot" class="mw-redirect" title="نقاش المستخدم:JarBot">نقاش</a>) 13:37، 1 مارس 2019 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JarBot|2019-03-01T13:37:00.000Z|\u062d\u0630\u0641_\u0633\u0631\u064a\u0639_\u0644\u0640_\u0628\u0648\u0627\u0628\u0629:\u0634\u0631\u0643\u0627\u062a\/\u0645\u0635\u0637\u0644\u062d_\u062a\u062c\u0627\u0631\u064a\/\u0623\u0631\u0634\u064a\u0641&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-03-01T13:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JarBot&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<div class="floatright"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D9%84%D9%81:Ambox_warning_pn.svg" class="image"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JarBot|2019-03-01T13:37:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ_بوابة:شركات/مصطلح_تجاري/أرشيف"></span><img alt="Ambox warning pn.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="42" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="445"/></a></div> مرحبًا. تم ترشيح الصفحة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%A8%D8%A9:%D8%B4%D8%B1%D9%83%D8%A7%D8%AA/%D9%85%D8%B5%D8%B7%D9%84%D8%AD_%D8%AA%D8%AC%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%8A/%D8%A3%D8%B1%D8%B4%D9%8A%D9%81" title="بوابة:شركات/مصطلح تجاري/أرشيف">بوابة:شركات/مصطلح تجاري/أرشيف</a></b> التي قمتَ بإنشائها للحذف السريع؛ وذلك بسبب أنها مستوفية لواحد أو أكثر من <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%8A%D9%8A%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%B0%D9%81_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%B9" title="ويكيبيديا:معايير الحذف السريع">معايير الحذف السريع</a></b>، وهذا يعني أن الصفحة ستُحذف في أقرب وقت ممكن. إذا كان لديك اعتراض على عملية الترشيح، يُمكنك إضافة أي نقاط هامة في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%A8%D8%A9:%D8%B4%D8%B1%D9%83%D8%A7%D8%AA/%D9%85%D8%B5%D8%B7%D9%84%D8%AD_%D8%AA%D8%AC%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%8A/%D8%A3%D8%B1%D8%B4%D9%8A%D9%81" title="بوابة:شركات/مصطلح تجاري/أرشيف">صفحة نقاش المقالة</a></b>، أو يُمكنك طلب استرجاعها إذا تم حذفها من خلال <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A5%D8%AE%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%8A%D9%86" title="ويكيبيديا:إخطار الإداريين">هذه الصفحة</a></b> -إذا كنتَ متأكدًا أن الصفحة غير مخالفة-. شكرًا لك. <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:JarBot" title="مستخدم:JarBot">JarBot</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:JarBot" class="mw-redirect" title="نقاش المستخدم:JarBot">نقاش</a>) 13:37، 1 مارس 2019 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JarBot|2019-03-01T13:37:00.000Z|\u062d\u0630\u0641_\u0633\u0631\u064a\u0639_\u0644\u0640_\u0628\u0648\u0627\u0628\u0629:\u0634\u0631\u0643\u0627\u062a\/\u0645\u0635\u0637\u0644\u062d_\u062a\u062c\u0627\u0631\u064a\/\u0623\u0631\u0634\u064a\u0641&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-03-01T13:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JarBot&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
 <h2><span id=".D8.AD.D8.B0.D9.81_.D8.B3.D8.B1.D9.8A.D8.B9_.D9.84.D9.80_.D9.82.D8.A7.D9.84.D8.A8:IT-PUG"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="حذف_سريع_لـ_قالب:IT-PUG" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|\u062d\u0630\u0641_\u0633\u0631\u064a\u0639_\u0644\u0640_\u0642\u0627\u0644\u0628:IT-PUG|2019-03-12T17:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|JarBot|2019-03-12T17:02:00.000Z|\u062d\u0630\u0641_\u0633\u0631\u064a\u0639_\u0644\u0640_\u0642\u0627\u0644\u0628:IT-PUG&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|حذف_سريع_لـ_قالب:IT-PUG|2019-03-12T17:02:00.000Z"></span>حذف سريع لـ <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D9%82%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8:IT-PUG&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="قالب:IT-PUG (الصفحة غير موجودة)">قالب:IT-PUG</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h|حذف_سريع_لـ_قالب:IT-PUG|2019-03-12T17:02:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<div class="floatright"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D9%84%D9%81:Ambox_warning_pn.svg" class="image"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JarBot|2019-03-12T17:02:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ_قالب:IT-PUG"></span><img alt="Ambox warning pn.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="42" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="445"/></a></div> مرحبًا. تم ترشيح الصفحة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D9%82%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8:IT-PUG&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="قالب:IT-PUG (الصفحة غير موجودة)">قالب:IT-PUG</a></b> التي قمتَ بإنشائها للحذف السريع؛ وذلك بسبب أنها مستوفية لواحد أو أكثر من <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%8A%D9%8A%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%B0%D9%81_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%B9" title="ويكيبيديا:معايير الحذف السريع">معايير الحذف السريع</a></b>، وهذا يعني أن الصفحة ستُحذف في أقرب وقت ممكن. إذا كان لديك اعتراض على عملية الترشيح، يُمكنك إضافة أي نقاط هامة في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D9%82%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8:IT-PUG&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="قالب:IT-PUG (الصفحة غير موجودة)">صفحة نقاش المقالة</a></b>، أو يُمكنك طلب استرجاعها إذا تم حذفها من خلال <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A5%D8%AE%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%8A%D9%86" title="ويكيبيديا:إخطار الإداريين">هذه الصفحة</a></b> -إذا كنتَ متأكدًا أن الصفحة غير مخالفة-. شكرًا لك. <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:JarBot" title="مستخدم:JarBot">JarBot</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:JarBot" class="mw-redirect" title="نقاش المستخدم:JarBot">نقاش</a>) 17:02، 12 مارس 2019 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JarBot|2019-03-12T17:02:00.000Z|\u062d\u0630\u0641_\u0633\u0631\u064a\u0639_\u0644\u0640_\u0642\u0627\u0644\u0628:IT-PUG&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-03-12T17:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JarBot&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<div class="floatright"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D9%84%D9%81:Ambox_warning_pn.svg" class="image"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JarBot|2019-03-12T17:02:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ_قالب:IT-PUG"></span><img alt="Ambox warning pn.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="42" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="445"/></a></div> مرحبًا. تم ترشيح الصفحة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D9%82%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8:IT-PUG&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="قالب:IT-PUG (الصفحة غير موجودة)">قالب:IT-PUG</a></b> التي قمتَ بإنشائها للحذف السريع؛ وذلك بسبب أنها مستوفية لواحد أو أكثر من <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%8A%D9%8A%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%B0%D9%81_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%B9" title="ويكيبيديا:معايير الحذف السريع">معايير الحذف السريع</a></b>، وهذا يعني أن الصفحة ستُحذف في أقرب وقت ممكن. إذا كان لديك اعتراض على عملية الترشيح، يُمكنك إضافة أي نقاط هامة في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D9%82%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8:IT-PUG&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="قالب:IT-PUG (الصفحة غير موجودة)">صفحة نقاش المقالة</a></b>، أو يُمكنك طلب استرجاعها إذا تم حذفها من خلال <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A5%D8%AE%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%8A%D9%86" title="ويكيبيديا:إخطار الإداريين">هذه الصفحة</a></b> -إذا كنتَ متأكدًا أن الصفحة غير مخالفة-. شكرًا لك. <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:JarBot" title="مستخدم:JarBot">JarBot</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:JarBot" class="mw-redirect" title="نقاش المستخدم:JarBot">نقاش</a>) 17:02، 12 مارس 2019 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JarBot|2019-03-12T17:02:00.000Z|\u062d\u0630\u0641_\u0633\u0631\u064a\u0639_\u0644\u0640_\u0642\u0627\u0644\u0628:IT-PUG&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-03-12T17:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JarBot&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|FShbib|2019-09-15T21:18:00.000Z|أهلًا_بعودتك.."></span>أهلًا وسهلًا أخي خالد.. سعدت جدًا لرؤيتك في أحدث التغييرات.. أرجو أن تكون بتمام الصحة والعافية.. <span class="emoji"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D9%84%D9%81:Emojione_263A.svg" class="image"><img alt="☺" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Emojione_263A.svg/16px-Emojione_263A.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Emojione_263A.svg/24px-Emojione_263A.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Emojione_263A.svg/32px-Emojione_263A.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="512"/></a></span> --<b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:FShbib" title="مستخدم:FShbib">شبيب..</a></b><sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:FShbib" title="نقاش المستخدم:FShbib">ناقشني</a></sup> 21:18، 15 سبتمبر 2019 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|FShbib|2019-09-15T21:18:00.000Z|\u0623\u0647\u0644\u064b\u0627_\u0628\u0639\u0648\u062f\u062a\u0643..&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-09-15T21:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;FShbib&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|FShbib|2019-09-15T21:18:00.000Z|أهلًا_بعودتك.."></span>أهلًا وسهلًا أخي خالد.. سعدت جدًا لرؤيتك في أحدث التغييرات.. أرجو أن تكون بتمام الصحة والعافية.. <span class="emoji"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D9%84%D9%81:Emojione_263A.svg" class="image"><img alt="☺" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Emojione_263A.svg/16px-Emojione_263A.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Emojione_263A.svg/24px-Emojione_263A.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Emojione_263A.svg/32px-Emojione_263A.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="512"/></a></span> --<b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:FShbib" title="مستخدم:FShbib">شبيب..</a></b><sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:FShbib" title="نقاش المستخدم:FShbib">ناقشني</a></sup> 21:18، 15 سبتمبر 2019 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|FShbib|2019-09-15T21:18:00.000Z|\u0623\u0647\u0644\u064b\u0627_\u0628\u0639\u0648\u062f\u062a\u0643..&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-09-15T21:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;FShbib&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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 <h2><span id=".D8.AA.D9.87.D8.A7.D9.86.D9.8A.D9.86.D8.A7_11"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="تهانينا_11" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|\u062a\u0647\u0627\u0646\u064a\u0646\u0627_11&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|تهانينا_11"></span>تهانينا<span data-mw-comment-end="h|تهانينا_11"></span></span></h2>
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 <td align="center"><br/>  تهانينا لك<br/> <b>Khaled</b><br/> تستحق هذا الوسام <br/> لحصولك على <b><span style="color:#000;">المركز الثاني</span></b> <br/> <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85%D9%88_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B3%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D9%83%D8%AB%D8%B1_%D9%86%D8%B4%D8%A7%D8%B7%D8%A7/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B3%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B9_%D8%A7%D9%8438_2019" title="ويكيبيديا:مستخدمو الأسبوع الأكثر نشاطا/الأسبوع ال38 2019"><span style="color:blue">بعدد إنشاء المقالات</span></a></b><br/>شكراً لجهودك. <br/><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%AC%D8%AA%D9%85%D8%B9_%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="ويكيبيديا:مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربية"><b>مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربية</b></a>
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 <h2><span id=".D8.AD.D8.B0.D9.81_.D8.B3.D8.B1.D9.8A.D8.B9_.D9.84.D9.80_Neubaufahrzeug"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="حذف_سريع_لـ_Neubaufahrzeug" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|\u062d\u0630\u0641_\u0633\u0631\u064a\u0639_\u0644\u0640_Neubaufahrzeug|2019-09-26T19:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|FPP|2019-09-26T19:22:00.000Z|\u062d\u0630\u0641_\u0633\u0631\u064a\u0639_\u0644\u0640_Neubaufahrzeug&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|حذف_سريع_لـ_Neubaufahrzeug|2019-09-26T19:22:00.000Z"></span>حذف سريع لـ <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neubaufahrzeug" class="mw-redirect" title="Neubaufahrzeug">Neubaufahrzeug</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h|حذف_سريع_لـ_Neubaufahrzeug|2019-09-26T19:22:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<div class="floatright"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D9%84%D9%81:Ambox_warning_pn.svg" class="image"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|FPP|2019-09-26T19:22:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ_Neubaufahrzeug"></span><img alt="Ambox warning pn.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="42" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="445"/></a></div> مرحبًا. تم ترشيح الصفحة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neubaufahrzeug" class="mw-redirect" title="Neubaufahrzeug">Neubaufahrzeug</a></b> التي قمتَ بإنشائها للحذف السريع؛ وذلك بسبب أنها مستوفية لواحد أو أكثر من <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%8A%D9%8A%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%B0%D9%81_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%B9" title="ويكيبيديا:معايير الحذف السريع">معايير الحذف السريع</a></b>، وهذا يعني أن الصفحة ستُحذف في أقرب وقت ممكن. إذا كان لديك اعتراض على عملية الترشيح، يُمكنك إضافة أي نقاط هامة في <b>صفحة نقاش المقالة</b>، أو يُمكنك طلب استرجاعها إذا تم حذفها من خلال <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A5%D8%AE%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%8A%D9%86" title="ويكيبيديا:إخطار الإداريين">هذه الصفحة</a></b> -إذا كنتَ متأكدًا أن الصفحة غير مخالفة-. شكرًا لك. --<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:FPP" title="مستخدم:FPP">FPP</a>      <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:FPP" title="نقاش المستخدم:FPP">نــــاقــــشــــهُ</a> 19:22، 26 سبتمبر 2019 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|FPP|2019-09-26T19:22:00.000Z|\u062d\u0630\u0641_\u0633\u0631\u064a\u0639_\u0644\u0640_Neubaufahrzeug&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-09-26T19:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;FPP&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<div class="floatright"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D9%84%D9%81:Ambox_warning_pn.svg" class="image"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|FPP|2019-09-26T19:22:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ_Neubaufahrzeug"></span><img alt="Ambox warning pn.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="42" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="445"/></a></div> مرحبًا. تم ترشيح الصفحة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neubaufahrzeug" class="mw-redirect" title="Neubaufahrzeug">Neubaufahrzeug</a></b> التي قمتَ بإنشائها للحذف السريع؛ وذلك بسبب أنها مستوفية لواحد أو أكثر من <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%8A%D9%8A%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%B0%D9%81_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%B9" title="ويكيبيديا:معايير الحذف السريع">معايير الحذف السريع</a></b>، وهذا يعني أن الصفحة ستُحذف في أقرب وقت ممكن. إذا كان لديك اعتراض على عملية الترشيح، يُمكنك إضافة أي نقاط هامة في <b>صفحة نقاش المقالة</b>، أو يُمكنك طلب استرجاعها إذا تم حذفها من خلال <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A5%D8%AE%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%8A%D9%86" title="ويكيبيديا:إخطار الإداريين">هذه الصفحة</a></b> -إذا كنتَ متأكدًا أن الصفحة غير مخالفة-. شكرًا لك. --<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:FPP" title="مستخدم:FPP">FPP</a>      <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:FPP" title="نقاش المستخدم:FPP">نــــاقــــشــــهُ</a> 19:22، 26 سبتمبر 2019 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|FPP|2019-09-26T19:22:00.000Z|\u062d\u0630\u0641_\u0633\u0631\u064a\u0639_\u0644\u0640_Neubaufahrzeug&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-09-26T19:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;FPP&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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 <p><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D9%84%D9%81:OOjs_UI_icon_info_big_progressive.svg" class="image"><img alt="OOjs UI icon info big progressive.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a8/OOjs_UI_icon_info_big_progressive.svg/30px-OOjs_UI_icon_info_big_progressive.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a8/OOjs_UI_icon_info_big_progressive.svg/45px-OOjs_UI_icon_info_big_progressive.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a8/OOjs_UI_icon_info_big_progressive.svg/60px-OOjs_UI_icon_info_big_progressive.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="24" data-file-height="24"/></a> <b>ملحوظة:</b> تجنب التعديلات غير المهمة أو التي لا تضيف شيئًا أو لا معنى لها مثل: التعديلات التجميلية أو إضافة فراغ أو استبدال بعض الحروف أو ما شابه ذلك من التعديلات والتي تستهلك موارد النظام وبالعادة تكون غير مجدية. يتم إزالة اسمك من قائمة مستخدمي البرنامج في حالة عدم استخدامه لمدة 6 شهور أو في حالة إساءة استخدامه، وقد يترتب على إساءة الاستخدام منعك أيضًا. يُمكنك إضافة قالب {{<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%82%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8:%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85_%D8%A3%D9%88%D8%A8" class="mw-redirect" title="قالب:مستخدم أوب">مستخدم أوب</a>}} في <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Khaled" title="مستخدم:Khaled">صفحتك الشخصية</a>. بالتوفيق!
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-<p>--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Dr-Taher" title="مستخدم:Dr-Taher">Dr-Taher</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Dr-Taher" title="نقاش المستخدم:Dr-Taher">نقاش</a>) 00:57، 8 أكتوبر 2019 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Dr-Taher|2019-10-08T00:57:00.000Z|\u0623_\u0648_\u0628._\u0628\u0627\u0644\u062a\u0648\u0641\u064a\u0642&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-10-08T00:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Dr-Taher&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p>--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Dr-Taher" title="مستخدم:Dr-Taher">Dr-Taher</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Dr-Taher" title="نقاش المستخدم:Dr-Taher">نقاش</a>) 00:57، 8 أكتوبر 2019 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Dr-Taher|2019-10-08T00:57:00.000Z|\u0623_\u0648_\u0628._\u0628\u0627\u0644\u062a\u0648\u0641\u064a\u0642&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-10-08T00:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Dr-Taher&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2019-10-11T18:22:00.000Z|تدقيق_الترجمة"></span>مرحبًا خالد، الترجمة الصحيحة لمصطلح imagery intelligence هي <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B5%D9%88%D8%B1" class="mw-redirect" title="استخبارات الصور">الاستخبارات التصويرية</a> وليس ذكاء الصور.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">نقاش</a>) 18:22، 11 أكتوبر 2019 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2019-10-11T18:22:00.000Z|\u062a\u062f\u0642\u064a\u0642_\u0627\u0644\u062a\u0631\u062c\u0645\u0629&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-10-11T18:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2019-10-11T18:22:00.000Z|تدقيق_الترجمة"></span>مرحبًا خالد، الترجمة الصحيحة لمصطلح imagery intelligence هي <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B5%D9%88%D8%B1" class="mw-redirect" title="استخبارات الصور">الاستخبارات التصويرية</a> وليس ذكاء الصور.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">نقاش</a>) 18:22، 11 أكتوبر 2019 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2019-10-11T18:22:00.000Z|\u062a\u062f\u0642\u064a\u0642_\u0627\u0644\u062a\u0631\u062c\u0645\u0629&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-10-11T18:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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 <td align="center"><br/>  تهانينا لك<br/> <b>Khaled</b><br/> تستحق هذا الوسام <br/> لحصولك على <b><span style="color:#000;">المركز الثاني</span></b> <br/> <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85%D9%88_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B3%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D9%83%D8%AB%D8%B1_%D9%86%D8%B4%D8%A7%D8%B7%D8%A7/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B3%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B9_%D8%A7%D9%8441_2019" title="ويكيبيديا:مستخدمو الأسبوع الأكثر نشاطا/الأسبوع ال41 2019"><span style="color:blue">بعدد إنشاء المقالات</span></a></b><br/>شكراً لجهودك. <br/><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%AC%D8%AA%D9%85%D8%B9_%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="ويكيبيديا:مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربية"><b>مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربية</b></a>
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 <h2><span id=".D9.85.D9.82.D8.A7.D9.84.D8.A9_Rotterdamsche_Droogdok_Maatschappi"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="مقالة_Rotterdamsche_Droogdok_Maatschappi" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|\u0645\u0642\u0627\u0644\u0629_Rotterdamsche_Droogdok_Maatschappi|2019-10-17T19:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Bander7799|2019-10-17T19:22:00.000Z|\u0645\u0642\u0627\u0644\u0629_Rotterdamsche_Droogdok_Maatschappi&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|مقالة_Rotterdamsche_Droogdok_Maatschappi|2019-10-17T19:22:00.000Z"></span>مقالة Rotterdamsche Droogdok Maatschappi<span data-mw-comment-end="h|مقالة_Rotterdamsche_Droogdok_Maatschappi|2019-10-17T19:22:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bander7799|2019-10-17T19:22:00.000Z|مقالة_Rotterdamsche_Droogdok_Maatschappi"></span>اتمنى منك تغيير اسم المقالة باللغة العربية.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Bander7799" class="mw-redirect" title="مستخدم:Bander7799">بندر</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Bander7799" class="mw-redirect" title="نقاش المستخدم:Bander7799">نقاش</a>) 19:22، 17 أكتوبر 2019 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bander7799|2019-10-17T19:22:00.000Z|\u0645\u0642\u0627\u0644\u0629_Rotterdamsche_Droogdok_Maatschappi&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-10-17T19:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bander7799&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bander7799|2019-10-17T19:22:00.000Z|مقالة_Rotterdamsche_Droogdok_Maatschappi"></span>اتمنى منك تغيير اسم المقالة باللغة العربية.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Bander7799" class="mw-redirect" title="مستخدم:Bander7799">بندر</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Bander7799" class="mw-redirect" title="نقاش المستخدم:Bander7799">نقاش</a>) 19:22، 17 أكتوبر 2019 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bander7799|2019-10-17T19:22:00.000Z|\u0645\u0642\u0627\u0644\u0629_Rotterdamsche_Droogdok_Maatschappi&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-10-17T19:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bander7799&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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 <td align="center"><br/>  تهانينا لك<br/> <b>Khaled</b><br/> تستحق هذا الوسام <br/> لحصولك على <b><span style="color:#000;">المركز الثاني</span></b> <br/> <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85%D9%88_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B3%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D9%83%D8%AB%D8%B1_%D9%86%D8%B4%D8%A7%D8%B7%D8%A7/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B3%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B9_%D8%A7%D9%8442_2019" title="ويكيبيديا:مستخدمو الأسبوع الأكثر نشاطا/الأسبوع ال42 2019"><span style="color:blue">بعدد إنشاء المقالات</span></a></b><br/>شكراً لجهودك. <br/><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%AC%D8%AA%D9%85%D8%B9_%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="ويكيبيديا:مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربية"><b>مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربية</b></a>
 </td></tr></tbody></table> 5:20، 21 أكتوبر 2019  (ت ع م)
 <h2><span id=".D8.B4.D8.A7.D8.B1.D8.A9_.D8.A7.D9.84.D8.AD.D8.B2.D8.A8_.D8.A7.D9.84.D8.B0.D9.87.D8.A8.D9.8A.D8.A9"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="شارة_الحزب_الذهبية" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|\u0634\u0627\u0631\u0629_\u0627\u0644\u062d\u0632\u0628_\u0627\u0644\u0630\u0647\u0628\u064a\u0629|2019-11-11T21:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2019-11-11T21:40:00.000Z|\u0634\u0627\u0631\u0629_\u0627\u0644\u062d\u0632\u0628_\u0627\u0644\u0630\u0647\u0628\u064a\u0629&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|شارة_الحزب_الذهبية|2019-11-11T21:40:00.000Z"></span>شارة الحزب الذهبية<span data-mw-comment-end="h|شارة_الحزب_الذهبية|2019-11-11T21:40:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2019-11-11T21:40:00.000Z|شارة_الحزب_الذهبية"></span>مرحبًا خالد، الوصف golden يعود على كلمة شارة Zeichen لأنه ينتهي بحرفي es وهو تصريف الصفة مع الاسم الذي أداته das، أما Partei أداتها die. إذا كانت الصفة golden وصفًا للحزب ستكون العبارة كالتالي goldene Partei. ومن المعتاد في الألمانية جمع كلمتين أو أكثر في كلمة واحدة، وأداة الكلمة تصبح أداة الاسم الأخير وهو Zeichen. مع التحية.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">نقاش</a>) 21:40، 11 نوفمبر 2019 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2019-11-11T21:40:00.000Z|\u0634\u0627\u0631\u0629_\u0627\u0644\u062d\u0632\u0628_\u0627\u0644\u0630\u0647\u0628\u064a\u0629&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-11-11T21:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2019-11-11T21:40:00.000Z|شارة_الحزب_الذهبية"></span>مرحبًا خالد، الوصف golden يعود على كلمة شارة Zeichen لأنه ينتهي بحرفي es وهو تصريف الصفة مع الاسم الذي أداته das، أما Partei أداتها die. إذا كانت الصفة golden وصفًا للحزب ستكون العبارة كالتالي goldene Partei. ومن المعتاد في الألمانية جمع كلمتين أو أكثر في كلمة واحدة، وأداة الكلمة تصبح أداة الاسم الأخير وهو Zeichen. مع التحية.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">نقاش</a>) 21:40، 11 نوفمبر 2019 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2019-11-11T21:40:00.000Z|\u0634\u0627\u0631\u0629_\u0627\u0644\u062d\u0632\u0628_\u0627\u0644\u0630\u0647\u0628\u064a\u0629&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-11-11T21:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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 <h2><span id=".D9.88.D8.B3.D8.A7.D9.85_.D8.A7.D9.84.D9.85.D9.84.D9.8A.D9.88.D9.86_.D9.85.D9.82.D8.A7.D9.84.D8.A9"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="وسام_المليون_مقالة" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|\u0648\u0633\u0627\u0645_\u0627\u0644\u0645\u0644\u064a\u0648\u0646_\u0645\u0642\u0627\u0644\u0629&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|وسام_المليون_مقالة"></span>وسام المليون مقالة<span data-mw-comment-end="h|وسام_المليون_مقالة"></span></span></h2>
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 <td align="center"><br/>  تهانينا لك<br/> <b>Khaled</b><br/> تستحق هذا الوسام <br/> لحصولك على <b><span style="color:#000;">المركز الرابع</span></b> <br/> <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85%D9%88_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B3%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D9%83%D8%AB%D8%B1_%D9%86%D8%B4%D8%A7%D8%B7%D8%A7/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B3%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B9_%D8%A7%D9%8448_2019" title="ويكيبيديا:مستخدمو الأسبوع الأكثر نشاطا/الأسبوع ال48 2019"><span style="color:blue">بعدد إنشاء المقالات</span></a></b><br/>شكراً لجهودك. <br/><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%AC%D8%AA%D9%85%D8%B9_%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="ويكيبيديا:مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربية"><b>مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربية</b></a>
 </td></tr></tbody></table> 5:21، 2 ديسمبر 2019  (ت ع م)
 <h2><span id=".D8.A3.D8.B3.D9.85.D8.A7.D8.A1_.D8.A7.D9.84.D8.AA.D8.B5.D9.86.D9.8A.D9.81.D8.A7.D8.AA"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="أسماء_التصنيفات" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|\u0623\u0633\u0645\u0627\u0621_\u0627\u0644\u062a\u0635\u0646\u064a\u0641\u0627\u062a|2019-12-03T21:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2019-12-03T21:44:00.000Z|\u0623\u0633\u0645\u0627\u0621_\u0627\u0644\u062a\u0635\u0646\u064a\u0641\u0627\u062a&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|أسماء_التصنيفات|2019-12-03T21:44:00.000Z"></span>أسماء التصنيفات<span data-mw-comment-end="h|أسماء_التصنيفات|2019-12-03T21:44:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2019-12-03T21:44:00.000Z|أسماء_التصنيفات"></span>مرحبًا يا خالد، ملاحظة حول أسماء التصنيفات، تبدأ الأسماء مرفوعة وليس منصوبة أو مجرورة، فالتصنيف الذي أنشأته الآن يجب أن يسمى "المتعاونون الدنماركيون مع ألمانيا النازية".--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">نقاش</a>) 21:44، 3 ديسمبر 2019 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2019-12-03T21:44:00.000Z|\u0623\u0633\u0645\u0627\u0621_\u0627\u0644\u062a\u0635\u0646\u064a\u0641\u0627\u062a&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-12-03T21:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2019-12-03T21:44:00.000Z|أسماء_التصنيفات"></span>مرحبًا يا خالد، ملاحظة حول أسماء التصنيفات، تبدأ الأسماء مرفوعة وليس منصوبة أو مجرورة، فالتصنيف الذي أنشأته الآن يجب أن يسمى "المتعاونون الدنماركيون مع ألمانيا النازية".--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">نقاش</a>) 21:44، 3 ديسمبر 2019 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2019-12-03T21:44:00.000Z|\u0623\u0633\u0645\u0627\u0621_\u0627\u0644\u062a\u0635\u0646\u064a\u0641\u0627\u062a&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-12-03T21:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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 <h2><span id=".D9.85.D9.84.D8.A7.D8.AD.D8.B8.D8.A7.D8.AA_.D9.84.D8.BA.D9.88.D9.8A.D8.A9"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="ملاحظات_لغوية" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|\u0645\u0644\u0627\u062d\u0638\u0627\u062a_\u0644\u063a\u0648\u064a\u0629|2019-12-04T21:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2019-12-04T21:41:00.000Z|\u0645\u0644\u0627\u062d\u0638\u0627\u062a_\u0644\u063a\u0648\u064a\u0629&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|ملاحظات_لغوية|2019-12-04T21:41:00.000Z"></span>ملاحظات لغوية<span data-mw-comment-end="h|ملاحظات_لغوية|2019-12-04T21:41:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2019-12-04T21:41:00.000Z|ملاحظات_لغوية"></span>مرحبًا خالد، انظر <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%AE%D8%A7%D8%B5:%D9%81%D8%B1%D9%82/4072672" title="خاص:فرق/4072672">هذا التعديل</a>، "عبارة عن" هو تعبير محل نقد، ستجد ملاحظة عنه في قائمة الملاحظات اللغوية المعروضة في الصفحة الرئيسية. وانظر تكتب بهمزة وصل وليس "أنظر". مع التحية.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">نقاش</a>) 21:41، 4 ديسمبر 2019 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2019-12-04T21:41:00.000Z|\u0645\u0644\u0627\u062d\u0638\u0627\u062a_\u0644\u063a\u0648\u064a\u0629&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-12-04T21:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2019-12-04T21:41:00.000Z|ملاحظات_لغوية"></span>مرحبًا خالد، انظر <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%AE%D8%A7%D8%B5:%D9%81%D8%B1%D9%82/4072672" title="خاص:فرق/4072672">هذا التعديل</a>، "عبارة عن" هو تعبير محل نقد، ستجد ملاحظة عنه في قائمة الملاحظات اللغوية المعروضة في الصفحة الرئيسية. وانظر تكتب بهمزة وصل وليس "أنظر". مع التحية.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">نقاش</a>) 21:41، 4 ديسمبر 2019 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2019-12-04T21:41:00.000Z|\u0645\u0644\u0627\u062d\u0638\u0627\u062a_\u0644\u063a\u0648\u064a\u0629&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-12-04T21:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2019-12-09T00:42:00.000Z|رايخسوميسار"></span>صباح الخير خالد، ما مصدر التعريب "رايخسوميسار"؟ أجد أنك كررت التعريب بهذا النطق. لذلك أرغب في معرفة مصدره.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">نقاش</a>) 00:42، 9 ديسمبر 2019 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2019-12-09T00:42:00.000Z|\u0631\u0627\u064a\u062e\u0633\u0648\u0645\u064a\u0633\u0627\u0631&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-12-09T00:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2019-12-09T00:42:00.000Z|رايخسوميسار"></span>صباح الخير خالد، ما مصدر التعريب "رايخسوميسار"؟ أجد أنك كررت التعريب بهذا النطق. لذلك أرغب في معرفة مصدره.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">نقاش</a>) 00:42، 9 ديسمبر 2019 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2019-12-09T00:42:00.000Z|\u0631\u0627\u064a\u062e\u0633\u0648\u0645\u064a\u0633\u0627\u0631&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-12-09T00:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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 <td align="center"><br/>  تهانينا لك<br/> <b>Khaled</b><br/> تستحق هذا الوسام <br/> لحصولك على <b><span style="color:#000;">المركز الثاني</span></b> <br/> <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85%D9%88_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B3%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D9%83%D8%AB%D8%B1_%D9%86%D8%B4%D8%A7%D8%B7%D8%A7/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B3%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B9_%D8%A7%D9%8449_2019" title="ويكيبيديا:مستخدمو الأسبوع الأكثر نشاطا/الأسبوع ال49 2019"><span style="color:blue">بعدد إنشاء المقالات</span></a></b><br/>شكراً لجهودك. <br/><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%AC%D8%AA%D9%85%D8%B9_%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="ويكيبيديا:مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربية"><b>مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربية</b></a>
 </td></tr></tbody></table> 5:20، 9 ديسمبر 2019  (ت ع م)
 <h2><span id=".D9.85.D9.84.D8.A7.D8.AD.D8.B8.D8.A9_.D8.AD.D9.88.D9.84_.D8.A7.D9.84.D8.AA.D8.B9.D8.B1.D9.8A.D8.A8"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="ملاحظة_حول_التعريب" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|\u0645\u0644\u0627\u062d\u0638\u0629_\u062d\u0648\u0644_\u0627\u0644\u062a\u0639\u0631\u064a\u0628|2019-12-12T20:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2019-12-12T20:15:00.000Z|\u0645\u0644\u0627\u062d\u0638\u0629_\u062d\u0648\u0644_\u0627\u0644\u062a\u0639\u0631\u064a\u0628&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|ملاحظة_حول_التعريب|2019-12-12T20:15:00.000Z"></span>ملاحظة حول التعريب<span data-mw-comment-end="h|ملاحظة_حول_التعريب|2019-12-12T20:15:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2019-12-12T20:15:00.000Z|ملاحظة_حول_التعريب"></span>مرحبًا خالد مرة أخرى، يمكنني المساعدة في تصحيح النطق الألماني دائمًا ولا يزعجني ذلك أو يثقل علي، لكن لو كنت مهتمًا، أعتقد أنك ستجد أن تعلم قراءة النص الألماني هو أمر سهل، أسهل من الإنجليزية والفرنسية ولغات أخرى. الحروف لها نطق ثابت، وجميع الحروف تنطق، ويمكنك هجاء كلمة بمجرد سماعها دون أن تكون عارف بها من قبل مثل العربية. وهناك مواقع مجانية كثيرة تمكنك من تعلم الألمانية عمومًا، وأنت فقط ربما تحتاج لتعلم نطق الكلمات. مع التحية.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">نقاش</a>) 20:15، 12 ديسمبر 2019 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2019-12-12T20:15:00.000Z|\u0645\u0644\u0627\u062d\u0638\u0629_\u062d\u0648\u0644_\u0627\u0644\u062a\u0639\u0631\u064a\u0628&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-12-12T20:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2019-12-12T20:15:00.000Z|ملاحظة_حول_التعريب"></span>مرحبًا خالد مرة أخرى، يمكنني المساعدة في تصحيح النطق الألماني دائمًا ولا يزعجني ذلك أو يثقل علي، لكن لو كنت مهتمًا، أعتقد أنك ستجد أن تعلم قراءة النص الألماني هو أمر سهل، أسهل من الإنجليزية والفرنسية ولغات أخرى. الحروف لها نطق ثابت، وجميع الحروف تنطق، ويمكنك هجاء كلمة بمجرد سماعها دون أن تكون عارف بها من قبل مثل العربية. وهناك مواقع مجانية كثيرة تمكنك من تعلم الألمانية عمومًا، وأنت فقط ربما تحتاج لتعلم نطق الكلمات. مع التحية.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">نقاش</a>) 20:15، 12 ديسمبر 2019 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2019-12-12T20:15:00.000Z|\u0645\u0644\u0627\u062d\u0638\u0629_\u062d\u0648\u0644_\u0627\u0644\u062a\u0639\u0631\u064a\u0628&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-12-12T20:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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 <h2><span id=".D8.AA.D9.84.D9.85.D9.8A.D8.AD_.D9.84.D9.84.D9.86.D8.B7.D9.82_.D8.A3.D9.84.D9.85.D8.A7.D9.86.D9.8A"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="تلميح_للنطق_ألماني" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|\u062a\u0644\u0645\u064a\u062d_\u0644\u0644\u0646\u0637\u0642_\u0623\u0644\u0645\u0627\u0646\u064a|2019-12-12T22:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2019-12-12T22:57:00.000Z|\u062a\u0644\u0645\u064a\u062d_\u0644\u0644\u0646\u0637\u0642_\u0623\u0644\u0645\u0627\u0646\u064a&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|تلميح_للنطق_ألماني|2019-12-12T22:57:00.000Z"></span>تلميح للنطق ألماني<span data-mw-comment-end="h|تلميح_للنطق_ألماني|2019-12-12T22:57:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2019-12-12T22:57:00.000Z|تلميح_للنطق_ألماني"></span>إليك هذا التلميح البسيط: أي كلمة ألمانية (اسم أو فعل) ينتهي بحرف e تنطق بنطق حرف هاء في آخرها. مثال Ich mache إش ماخه، ولا تعرب إش ماخ، وتعني أنا أفعل. وفي هذا المثال يلاحظ أن كلمة mach ماخ، دون حرف e هي فعل الأمر من machen. مع التحية.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">نقاش</a>) 22:57، 12 ديسمبر 2019 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2019-12-12T22:57:00.000Z|\u062a\u0644\u0645\u064a\u062d_\u0644\u0644\u0646\u0637\u0642_\u0623\u0644\u0645\u0627\u0646\u064a&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-12-12T22:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2019-12-12T22:57:00.000Z|تلميح_للنطق_ألماني"></span>إليك هذا التلميح البسيط: أي كلمة ألمانية (اسم أو فعل) ينتهي بحرف e تنطق بنطق حرف هاء في آخرها. مثال Ich mache إش ماخه، ولا تعرب إش ماخ، وتعني أنا أفعل. وفي هذا المثال يلاحظ أن كلمة mach ماخ، دون حرف e هي فعل الأمر من machen. مع التحية.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">نقاش</a>) 22:57، 12 ديسمبر 2019 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2019-12-12T22:57:00.000Z|\u062a\u0644\u0645\u064a\u062d_\u0644\u0644\u0646\u0637\u0642_\u0623\u0644\u0645\u0627\u0646\u064a&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-12-12T22:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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 <td align="center"><br/>  تهانينا لك<br/> <b>Khaled</b><br/> تستحق هذا الوسام <br/> لحصولك على <b><span style="color:#000;">المركز الرابع</span></b> <br/> <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85%D9%88_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B3%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D9%83%D8%AB%D8%B1_%D9%86%D8%B4%D8%A7%D8%B7%D8%A7/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B3%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B9_%D8%A7%D9%8450_2019" title="ويكيبيديا:مستخدمو الأسبوع الأكثر نشاطا/الأسبوع ال50 2019"><span style="color:blue">بعدد إنشاء المقالات</span></a></b><br/>شكراً لجهودك. <br/><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%AC%D8%AA%D9%85%D8%B9_%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="ويكيبيديا:مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربية"><b>مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربية</b></a>
 </td></tr></tbody></table> 5:21، 16 ديسمبر 2019  (ت ع م)
 <h2><span id=".D8.AA.D8.B4.D9.83.D9.8A.D9.84_.D9.85.D8.AA.D8.B9.D8.A7.D9.88.D9.86"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="تشكيل_متعاون" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|\u062a\u0634\u0643\u064a\u0644_\u0645\u062a\u0639\u0627\u0648\u0646|2019-12-17T20:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2019-12-17T20:53:00.000Z|\u062a\u0634\u0643\u064a\u0644_\u0645\u062a\u0639\u0627\u0648\u0646&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|تشكيل_متعاون|2019-12-17T20:53:00.000Z"></span>تشكيل متعاون<span data-mw-comment-end="h|تشكيل_متعاون|2019-12-17T20:53:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2019-12-17T20:53:00.000Z|تشكيل_متعاون"></span>مرحبًا خالد، أعتقد أن الوصف الأفضل للوحدات المتعاونة مع النازية هو وحدات متعاونة وليس وحدات تعاونية، مثلما يقال وحدات متحالفة وليس وحدات تحالفية. مع التحية.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">نقاش</a>) 20:53، 17 ديسمبر 2019 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2019-12-17T20:53:00.000Z|\u062a\u0634\u0643\u064a\u0644_\u0645\u062a\u0639\u0627\u0648\u0646&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-12-17T20:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2019-12-17T20:53:00.000Z|تشكيل_متعاون"></span>مرحبًا خالد، أعتقد أن الوصف الأفضل للوحدات المتعاونة مع النازية هو وحدات متعاونة وليس وحدات تعاونية، مثلما يقال وحدات متحالفة وليس وحدات تحالفية. مع التحية.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">نقاش</a>) 20:53، 17 ديسمبر 2019 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2019-12-17T20:53:00.000Z|\u062a\u0634\u0643\u064a\u0644_\u0645\u062a\u0639\u0627\u0648\u0646&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-12-17T20:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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 <td align="center"><br/>  تهانينا لك<br/> <b>Khaled</b><br/> تستحق هذا الوسام <br/> لحصولك على <b><span style="color:#000;">المركز الأول</span></b> <br/> <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85%D9%88_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B3%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D9%83%D8%AB%D8%B1_%D9%86%D8%B4%D8%A7%D8%B7%D8%A7/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B3%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B9_%D8%A7%D9%8451_2019" title="ويكيبيديا:مستخدمو الأسبوع الأكثر نشاطا/الأسبوع ال51 2019"><span style="color:blue">بعدد إنشاء المقالات</span></a></b><br/>شكراً لجهودك. <br/><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%AC%D8%AA%D9%85%D8%B9_%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="ويكيبيديا:مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربية"><b>مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربية</b></a>
 </td></tr></tbody></table> 5:20، 23 ديسمبر 2019  (ت ع م)
 <h2><span id=".D8.A7.D9.84.D8.AA.D9.86.D9.88.D9.8A.D9.86_.D8.B9.D9.84.D9.89_.D8.A7.D9.84.D8.AD.D8.B1.D9.81_.D8.A7.D9.84.D9.85.D9.86.D9.88.D9.86"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="التنوين_على_الحرف_المنون" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|\u0627\u0644\u062a\u0646\u0648\u064a\u0646_\u0639\u0644\u0649_\u0627\u0644\u062d\u0631\u0641_\u0627\u0644\u0645\u0646\u0648\u0646|2019-12-28T01:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2019-12-28T01:07:00.000Z|\u0627\u0644\u062a\u0646\u0648\u064a\u0646_\u0639\u0644\u0649_\u0627\u0644\u062d\u0631\u0641_\u0627\u0644\u0645\u0646\u0648\u0646&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|التنوين_على_الحرف_المنون|2019-12-28T01:07:00.000Z"></span>التنوين على الحرف المنون<span data-mw-comment-end="h|التنوين_على_الحرف_المنون|2019-12-28T01:07:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2019-12-28T01:07:00.000Z|التنوين_على_الحرف_المنون"></span>مرحبًا خالد، التنوين في مسؤولةً هو على التاء المربوطة وليس على اللام؛ الحرف المنون هو التاء المربوطة. مع التحية.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">نقاش</a>) 01:07، 28 ديسمبر 2019 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2019-12-28T01:07:00.000Z|\u0627\u0644\u062a\u0646\u0648\u064a\u0646_\u0639\u0644\u0649_\u0627\u0644\u062d\u0631\u0641_\u0627\u0644\u0645\u0646\u0648\u0646&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-12-28T01:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2019-12-28T01:07:00.000Z|التنوين_على_الحرف_المنون"></span>مرحبًا خالد، التنوين في مسؤولةً هو على التاء المربوطة وليس على اللام؛ الحرف المنون هو التاء المربوطة. مع التحية.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">نقاش</a>) 01:07، 28 ديسمبر 2019 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2019-12-28T01:07:00.000Z|\u0627\u0644\u062a\u0646\u0648\u064a\u0646_\u0639\u0644\u0649_\u0627\u0644\u062d\u0631\u0641_\u0627\u0644\u0645\u0646\u0648\u0646&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-12-28T01:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Marksman003|2020-01-05T16:12:00.000Z|اسم_تصنيف"></span>مرحباً خالد، ما رأيك بنقل التصنيف "<i>تصنيف:قوائم الوزراء - رئيس الدول الألمانية</i>" إلى <b>تصنيف:قوائم رؤساء وزراء الولايات الألمانية</b> أو حتّى إلى <b>تصنيف:قوائم رؤساء حكومات الولايات الألمانية</b>؟ حيث أن الاسم الحالي غير صحيحاً لا لغوياً ولا من حيث المعنى. ألمانيا لا تحوي دول وإنما ولايات وقادة هذه الولايات يسمون رؤساء وزراء وليس وزراء - رئيس.
 تحياتي
-<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Marksman003" title="مستخدم:Marksman003">Marksman003</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Marksman003" title="نقاش المستخدم:Marksman003">نقاش</a>) 16:12، 5 يناير 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Marksman003|2020-01-05T16:12:00.000Z|\u0627\u0633\u0645_\u062a\u0635\u0646\u064a\u0641&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-05T16:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Marksman003&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Marksman003" title="مستخدم:Marksman003">Marksman003</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Marksman003" title="نقاش المستخدم:Marksman003">نقاش</a>) 16:12، 5 يناير 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Marksman003|2020-01-05T16:12:00.000Z|\u0627\u0633\u0645_\u062a\u0635\u0646\u064a\u0641&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-05T16:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Marksman003&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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 <td align="center"><br/>  تهانينا لك<br/> <b>Khaled</b><br/> تستحق هذا الوسام <br/> لحصولك على <b><span style="color:#000;">المركز الخامس</span></b> <br/> <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85%D9%88_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B3%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D9%83%D8%AB%D8%B1_%D9%86%D8%B4%D8%A7%D8%B7%D8%A7/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B3%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B9_%D8%A7%D9%847_2020" title="ويكيبيديا:مستخدمو الأسبوع الأكثر نشاطا/الأسبوع ال7 2020"><span style="color:blue">بعدد إنشاء المقالات</span></a></b><br/>شكراً لجهودك. <br/><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%AC%D8%AA%D9%85%D8%B9_%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="ويكيبيديا:مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربية"><b>مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربية</b></a>
 </td></tr></tbody></table> 5:21، 17 فبراير 2020  (ت ع م)
 <h2><span id=".D8.AD.D8.B0.D9.81_.D8.B3.D8.B1.D9.8A.D8.B9_.D9.84.D9.80"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="حذف_سريع_لـ" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|\u062d\u0630\u0641_\u0633\u0631\u064a\u0639_\u0644\u0640|2020-02-19T14:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|\u0645\u0635\u0639\u0628 \u0627\u0644\u0639\u0628\u0648\u062f|2020-02-19T14:13:00.000Z|\u062d\u0630\u0641_\u0633\u0631\u064a\u0639_\u0644\u0640&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|حذف_سريع_لـ|2020-02-19T14:13:00.000Z"></span>حذف سريع لـ<span data-mw-comment-end="h|حذف_سريع_لـ|2020-02-19T14:13:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<div class="floatright"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D9%84%D9%81:Ambox_warning_pn.svg" class="image"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|مصعب العبود|2020-02-19T14:13:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ"></span><img alt="Ambox warning pn.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="42" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="445"/></a></div> مرحبًا. تم ترشيح الصفحة '<i><b> التي قمتَ بإنشائها للحذف السريع؛ وذلك بسبب أنها مستوفية لواحد أو أكثر من </b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%8A%D9%8A%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%B0%D9%81_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%B9" title="ويكيبيديا:معايير الحذف السريع">معايير الحذف السريع</a>'</i>، وهذا يعني أن الصفحة ستُحذف في أقرب وقت ممكن. إذا كان لديك اعتراض على عملية الترشيح، يُمكنك إضافة أي نقاط هامة في <b>صفحة نقاش المقالة</b>، أو يُمكنك طلب استرجاعها إذا تم حذفها من خلال <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A5%D8%AE%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%8A%D9%86" title="ويكيبيديا:إخطار الإداريين">هذه الصفحة</a></b> -إذا كنتَ متأكدًا أن الصفحة غير مخالفة-. شكرًا لك. --<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%B5%D8%B9%D8%A8_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%AF" title="مستخدم:مصعب العبود">مصعب العبود</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%B5%D8%B9%D8%A8_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%AF" title="نقاش المستخدم:مصعب العبود">نقاش</a>) 14:13، 19 فبراير 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u0635\u0639\u0628 \u0627\u0644\u0639\u0628\u0648\u062f|2020-02-19T14:13:00.000Z|\u062d\u0630\u0641_\u0633\u0631\u064a\u0639_\u0644\u0640&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-02-19T14:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u0635\u0639\u0628 \u0627\u0644\u0639\u0628\u0648\u062f&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<div class="floatright"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D9%84%D9%81:Ambox_warning_pn.svg" class="image"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|مصعب العبود|2020-02-19T14:13:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ"></span><img alt="Ambox warning pn.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="42" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="445"/></a></div> مرحبًا. تم ترشيح الصفحة '<i><b> التي قمتَ بإنشائها للحذف السريع؛ وذلك بسبب أنها مستوفية لواحد أو أكثر من </b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%8A%D9%8A%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%B0%D9%81_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%B9" title="ويكيبيديا:معايير الحذف السريع">معايير الحذف السريع</a>'</i>، وهذا يعني أن الصفحة ستُحذف في أقرب وقت ممكن. إذا كان لديك اعتراض على عملية الترشيح، يُمكنك إضافة أي نقاط هامة في <b>صفحة نقاش المقالة</b>، أو يُمكنك طلب استرجاعها إذا تم حذفها من خلال <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A5%D8%AE%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%8A%D9%86" title="ويكيبيديا:إخطار الإداريين">هذه الصفحة</a></b> -إذا كنتَ متأكدًا أن الصفحة غير مخالفة-. شكرًا لك. --<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%B5%D8%B9%D8%A8_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%AF" title="مستخدم:مصعب العبود">مصعب العبود</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%B5%D8%B9%D8%A8_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%AF" title="نقاش المستخدم:مصعب العبود">نقاش</a>) 14:13، 19 فبراير 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u0635\u0639\u0628 \u0627\u0644\u0639\u0628\u0648\u062f|2020-02-19T14:13:00.000Z|\u062d\u0630\u0641_\u0633\u0631\u064a\u0639_\u0644\u0640&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-02-19T14:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u0635\u0639\u0628 \u0627\u0644\u0639\u0628\u0648\u062f&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<div class="floatright"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D9%84%D9%81:Ambox_warning_pn.svg" class="image"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JarBot|2020-02-19T14:36:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ_طباع_حجريون_ألمان"></span><img alt="Ambox warning pn.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="42" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="445"/></a></div> مرحبًا. تم ترشيح الصفحة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D8%B7%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B9_%D8%AD%D8%AC%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%88%D9%86_%D8%A3%D9%84%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%86&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="طباع حجريون ألمان (الصفحة غير موجودة)">طباع حجريون ألمان</a></b> التي قمتَ بإنشائها للحذف السريع؛ وذلك بسبب أنها مستوفية لواحد أو أكثر من <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%8A%D9%8A%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%B0%D9%81_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%B9" title="ويكيبيديا:معايير الحذف السريع">معايير الحذف السريع</a></b>، وهذا يعني أن الصفحة ستُحذف عن قريب. إذا كان لديك اعتراض على عملية الترشيح، يُمكنك إضافة أي نقاط هامة في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D8%B7%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B9_%D8%AD%D8%AC%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%88%D9%86_%D8%A3%D9%84%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%86&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="طباع حجريون ألمان (الصفحة غير موجودة)">صفحة نقاش المقالة</a></b>، أو يُمكنك طلب استرجاعها إذا تم حذفها من خلال صفحة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A5%D8%AE%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%8A%D9%86/%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%AC%D8%A7%D8%B9" title="ويكيبيديا:إخطار الإداريين/استرجاع">طلبات الاسترجاع</a> </b> -إذا كنتَ متأكدًا أن الصفحة غير مخالفة-. شكرًا لك. -- <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:JarBot" title="مستخدم:JarBot">JarBot</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:JarBot" class="mw-redirect" title="نقاش المستخدم:JarBot">نقاش</a>) 14:36، 19 فبراير 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JarBot|2020-02-19T14:36:00.000Z|\u062d\u0630\u0641_\u0633\u0631\u064a\u0639_\u0644\u0640_\u0637\u0628\u0627\u0639_\u062d\u062c\u0631\u064a\u0648\u0646_\u0623\u0644\u0645\u0627\u0646&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-02-19T14:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JarBot&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<div class="floatright"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D9%84%D9%81:Ambox_warning_pn.svg" class="image"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JarBot|2020-02-19T14:36:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ_طباع_حجريون_ألمان"></span><img alt="Ambox warning pn.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="42" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="445"/></a></div> مرحبًا. تم ترشيح الصفحة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D8%B7%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B9_%D8%AD%D8%AC%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%88%D9%86_%D8%A3%D9%84%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%86&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="طباع حجريون ألمان (الصفحة غير موجودة)">طباع حجريون ألمان</a></b> التي قمتَ بإنشائها للحذف السريع؛ وذلك بسبب أنها مستوفية لواحد أو أكثر من <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%8A%D9%8A%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%B0%D9%81_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%B9" title="ويكيبيديا:معايير الحذف السريع">معايير الحذف السريع</a></b>، وهذا يعني أن الصفحة ستُحذف عن قريب. إذا كان لديك اعتراض على عملية الترشيح، يُمكنك إضافة أي نقاط هامة في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D8%B7%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B9_%D8%AD%D8%AC%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%88%D9%86_%D8%A3%D9%84%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%86&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="طباع حجريون ألمان (الصفحة غير موجودة)">صفحة نقاش المقالة</a></b>، أو يُمكنك طلب استرجاعها إذا تم حذفها من خلال صفحة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A5%D8%AE%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%8A%D9%86/%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%AC%D8%A7%D8%B9" title="ويكيبيديا:إخطار الإداريين/استرجاع">طلبات الاسترجاع</a> </b> -إذا كنتَ متأكدًا أن الصفحة غير مخالفة-. شكرًا لك. -- <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:JarBot" title="مستخدم:JarBot">JarBot</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:JarBot" class="mw-redirect" title="نقاش المستخدم:JarBot">نقاش</a>) 14:36، 19 فبراير 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JarBot|2020-02-19T14:36:00.000Z|\u062d\u0630\u0641_\u0633\u0631\u064a\u0639_\u0644\u0640_\u0637\u0628\u0627\u0639_\u062d\u062c\u0631\u064a\u0648\u0646_\u0623\u0644\u0645\u0627\u0646&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-02-19T14:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JarBot&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2020-02-20T14:57:00.000Z|دعوة_للتدقيق"></span>مرحبًا خالد، طالع مقالة <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%84%D8%AC%D9%86%D8%A9_%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%B1" title="لجنة شيدر">لجنة شيدر</a> مرة أخرى. المقدمة تتضمن الكثير من الأخطاء اللغوية، حاول أن تقرأها وتصحح الأخطاء بها. مع التحية.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">نقاش</a>) 14:57، 20 فبراير 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2020-02-20T14:57:00.000Z|\u062f\u0639\u0648\u0629_\u0644\u0644\u062a\u062f\u0642\u064a\u0642&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-02-20T14:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2020-02-20T14:57:00.000Z|دعوة_للتدقيق"></span>مرحبًا خالد، طالع مقالة <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%84%D8%AC%D9%86%D8%A9_%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%B1" title="لجنة شيدر">لجنة شيدر</a> مرة أخرى. المقدمة تتضمن الكثير من الأخطاء اللغوية، حاول أن تقرأها وتصحح الأخطاء بها. مع التحية.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">نقاش</a>) 14:57، 20 فبراير 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2020-02-20T14:57:00.000Z|\u062f\u0639\u0648\u0629_\u0644\u0644\u062a\u062f\u0642\u064a\u0642&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-02-20T14:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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 <td align="center"><br/>  تهانينا لك<br/> <b>Khaled</b><br/> تستحق هذا الوسام <br/> لحصولك على <b><span style="color:#000;">المركز الأول</span></b> <br/> <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85%D9%88_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B3%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D9%83%D8%AB%D8%B1_%D9%86%D8%B4%D8%A7%D8%B7%D8%A7/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B3%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B9_%D8%A7%D9%848_2020" title="ويكيبيديا:مستخدمو الأسبوع الأكثر نشاطا/الأسبوع ال8 2020"><span style="color:blue">بعدد إنشاء المقالات</span></a></b><br/>شكراً لجهودك. <br/><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%AC%D8%AA%D9%85%D8%B9_%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="ويكيبيديا:مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربية"><b>مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربية</b></a>
 </td></tr></tbody></table> 5:20، 24 فبراير 2020  (ت ع م)
 <h2><span id=".D8.AA.D8.B9.D8.B1.D9.8A.D8.A8_.D8.B9.D9.86.D8.A7.D9.88.D9.8A.D9.86_.D8.A7.D9.84.D9.85.D9.82.D8.A7.D9.84.D8.A7.D8.AA"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="تعريب_عناوين_المقالات" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|\u062a\u0639\u0631\u064a\u0628_\u0639\u0646\u0627\u0648\u064a\u0646_\u0627\u0644\u0645\u0642\u0627\u0644\u0627\u062a|2020-02-28T22:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|\u0646\u062f\u0649|2020-02-28T22:19:00.000Z|\u062a\u0639\u0631\u064a\u0628_\u0639\u0646\u0627\u0648\u064a\u0646_\u0627\u0644\u0645\u0642\u0627\u0644\u0627\u062a&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|تعريب_عناوين_المقالات|2020-02-28T22:19:00.000Z"></span>تعريب عناوين المقالات<span data-mw-comment-end="h|تعريب_عناوين_المقالات|2020-02-28T22:19:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|ندى|2020-02-28T22:19:00.000Z|تعريب_عناوين_المقالات"></span>مرحبًا،أرجو أن تعرب أسماء هذه المقالات إلى اللغة العربية لأنها مخالفة لسياسة الموسوعة، <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strafbataillon" class="mw-redirect" title="Strafbataillon">Strafbataillon</a>، <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weihnachten" class="mw-redirect" title="Weihnachten">Weihnachten</a>، <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurmark" class="mw-redirect" title="Kurmark">Kurmark</a>، وأظن أنك تعرف هذا كونك محررًا!! تحياتي --<b>--</b> <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%86%D8%AF%D9%89" class="mw-redirect" title="مستخدم:ندى"><span style="color:#F88379; font-size:18px; font-family:traditional arabic;"><b>ندى</b></span></a> <sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%86%D8%AF%D9%89" class="mw-redirect" title="نقاش المستخدم:ندى"><span style="color:#F88379; font-size:15px; font-family:traditional arabic;"><b>راسلني</b></span></a></sup> 22:19، 28 فبراير 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0646\u062f\u0649|2020-02-28T22:19:00.000Z|\u062a\u0639\u0631\u064a\u0628_\u0639\u0646\u0627\u0648\u064a\u0646_\u0627\u0644\u0645\u0642\u0627\u0644\u0627\u062a&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-02-28T22:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0646\u062f\u0649&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|ندى|2020-02-28T22:19:00.000Z|تعريب_عناوين_المقالات"></span>مرحبًا،أرجو أن تعرب أسماء هذه المقالات إلى اللغة العربية لأنها مخالفة لسياسة الموسوعة، <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strafbataillon" class="mw-redirect" title="Strafbataillon">Strafbataillon</a>، <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weihnachten" class="mw-redirect" title="Weihnachten">Weihnachten</a>، <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurmark" class="mw-redirect" title="Kurmark">Kurmark</a>، وأظن أنك تعرف هذا كونك محررًا!! تحياتي --<b>--</b> <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%86%D8%AF%D9%89" class="mw-redirect" title="مستخدم:ندى"><span style="color:#F88379; font-size:18px; font-family:traditional arabic;"><b>ندى</b></span></a> <sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%86%D8%AF%D9%89" class="mw-redirect" title="نقاش المستخدم:ندى"><span style="color:#F88379; font-size:15px; font-family:traditional arabic;"><b>راسلني</b></span></a></sup> 22:19، 28 فبراير 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0646\u062f\u0649|2020-02-28T22:19:00.000Z|\u062a\u0639\u0631\u064a\u0628_\u0639\u0646\u0627\u0648\u064a\u0646_\u0627\u0644\u0645\u0642\u0627\u0644\u0627\u062a&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-02-28T22:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0646\u062f\u0649&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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 <td align="center"><br/>  تهانينا لك<br/> <b>Khaled</b><br/> تستحق هذا الوسام <br/> لحصولك على <b><span style="color:#000;">المركز الأول</span></b> <br/> <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85%D9%88_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B3%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D9%83%D8%AB%D8%B1_%D9%86%D8%B4%D8%A7%D8%B7%D8%A7/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B3%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B9_%D8%A7%D9%8410_2020" title="ويكيبيديا:مستخدمو الأسبوع الأكثر نشاطا/الأسبوع ال10 2020"><span style="color:blue">بعدد إنشاء المقالات</span></a></b><br/>شكراً لجهودك. <br/><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%AC%D8%AA%D9%85%D8%B9_%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="ويكيبيديا:مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربية"><b>مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربية</b></a>
 </td></tr></tbody></table> 5:20، 9 مارس 2020  (ت ع م)
 <h2><span id=".D8.AD.D8.B0.D9.81_.D8.B3.D8.B1.D9.8A.D8.B9_.D9.84.D9.80_.D8.A8.D9.88.D8.A7.D8.A8.D8.A9:.D9.84.D9.8A.D9.81.D8.B1.D8.A8.D9.88.D9.84"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="حذف_سريع_لـ_بوابة:ليفربول" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|\u062d\u0630\u0641_\u0633\u0631\u064a\u0639_\u0644\u0640_\u0628\u0648\u0627\u0628\u0629:\u0644\u064a\u0641\u0631\u0628\u0648\u0644|2020-03-11T21:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|\u0648\u0647\u0631\u0627\u0646\u064a|2020-03-11T21:01:00.000Z|\u062d\u0630\u0641_\u0633\u0631\u064a\u0639_\u0644\u0640_\u0628\u0648\u0627\u0628\u0629:\u0644\u064a\u0641\u0631\u0628\u0648\u0644&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|حذف_سريع_لـ_بوابة:ليفربول|2020-03-11T21:01:00.000Z"></span>حذف سريع لـ <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%A8%D8%A9:%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%81%D8%B1%D8%A8%D9%88%D9%84&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="بوابة:ليفربول (الصفحة غير موجودة)">بوابة:ليفربول</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h|حذف_سريع_لـ_بوابة:ليفربول|2020-03-11T21:01:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<div class="floatright"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D9%84%D9%81:Ambox_warning_pn.svg" class="image"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|وهراني|2020-03-11T21:01:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ_بوابة:ليفربول"></span><img alt="Ambox warning pn.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="42" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="445"/></a></div> تم إضافة وسم على <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%A8%D8%A9:%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%81%D8%B1%D8%A8%D9%88%D9%84&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="بوابة:ليفربول (الصفحة غير موجودة)">بوابة:ليفربول</a> يطلب فيه أن يتم شطبه من ويكيبيديا. وتم ذلك إتباعا <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%AD%D8%B0%D9%81_%D8%B3%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%B9#P2" class="mw-redirect" title="ويكيبيديا:حذف سريع">لقسم P2 لمعايير الحذف السريع</a>، وذلك لأنها بوابة مبنية على مضوع ليس له مقالة رئيسية ليست بذرة، ولا يوجد على الأقل ثلاثة مقالة تفصيلية ليست بذور يمكن مناقشتها تحت عنوان موقع البوابة. --  - مع تحياتي - <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%88%D9%87%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%8A" title="مستخدم:وهراني"><b>وهراني</b></a> 21:01، 11 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0648\u0647\u0631\u0627\u0646\u064a|2020-03-11T21:01:00.000Z|\u062d\u0630\u0641_\u0633\u0631\u064a\u0639_\u0644\u0640_\u0628\u0648\u0627\u0628\u0629:\u0644\u064a\u0641\u0631\u0628\u0648\u0644&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-11T21:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0648\u0647\u0631\u0627\u0646\u064a&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<div class="floatright"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D9%84%D9%81:Ambox_warning_pn.svg" class="image"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|وهراني|2020-03-11T21:01:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ_بوابة:ليفربول"></span><img alt="Ambox warning pn.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="42" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="445"/></a></div> تم إضافة وسم على <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%A8%D8%A9:%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%81%D8%B1%D8%A8%D9%88%D9%84&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="بوابة:ليفربول (الصفحة غير موجودة)">بوابة:ليفربول</a> يطلب فيه أن يتم شطبه من ويكيبيديا. وتم ذلك إتباعا <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%AD%D8%B0%D9%81_%D8%B3%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%B9#P2" class="mw-redirect" title="ويكيبيديا:حذف سريع">لقسم P2 لمعايير الحذف السريع</a>، وذلك لأنها بوابة مبنية على مضوع ليس له مقالة رئيسية ليست بذرة، ولا يوجد على الأقل ثلاثة مقالة تفصيلية ليست بذور يمكن مناقشتها تحت عنوان موقع البوابة. --  - مع تحياتي - <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%88%D9%87%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%8A" title="مستخدم:وهراني"><b>وهراني</b></a> 21:01، 11 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0648\u0647\u0631\u0627\u0646\u064a|2020-03-11T21:01:00.000Z|\u062d\u0630\u0641_\u0633\u0631\u064a\u0639_\u0644\u0640_\u0628\u0648\u0627\u0628\u0629:\u0644\u064a\u0641\u0631\u0628\u0648\u0644&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-11T21:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0648\u0647\u0631\u0627\u0646\u064a&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|ندى|2020-03-16T00:23:00.000Z|طلب_2"></span>مرحبًا خالد، هلا أكملت ترجمة <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%85%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%BA%D8%A7%D9%88%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%8A%D8%AA%D8%B1" title="قائمة الغاولايتر">قائمة الغاولايتر</a> إن نصفها غير مترجم، تحياتي لك. --<b>--</b> <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%86%D8%AF%D9%89" class="mw-redirect" title="مستخدم:ندى"><span style="color:#F88379; font-size:18px; font-family:traditional arabic;"><b>ندى</b></span></a> <sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%86%D8%AF%D9%89" class="mw-redirect" title="نقاش المستخدم:ندى"><span style="color:#F88379; font-size:15px; font-family:traditional arabic;"><b>راسلني</b></span></a></sup> 00:23، 16 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0646\u062f\u0649|2020-03-16T00:23:00.000Z|\u0637\u0644\u0628_2&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-16T00:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0646\u062f\u0649&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|ندى|2020-03-16T00:23:00.000Z|طلب_2"></span>مرحبًا خالد، هلا أكملت ترجمة <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%85%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%BA%D8%A7%D9%88%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%8A%D8%AA%D8%B1" title="قائمة الغاولايتر">قائمة الغاولايتر</a> إن نصفها غير مترجم، تحياتي لك. --<b>--</b> <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%86%D8%AF%D9%89" class="mw-redirect" title="مستخدم:ندى"><span style="color:#F88379; font-size:18px; font-family:traditional arabic;"><b>ندى</b></span></a> <sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%86%D8%AF%D9%89" class="mw-redirect" title="نقاش المستخدم:ندى"><span style="color:#F88379; font-size:15px; font-family:traditional arabic;"><b>راسلني</b></span></a></sup> 00:23، 16 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0646\u062f\u0649|2020-03-16T00:23:00.000Z|\u0637\u0644\u0628_2&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-16T00:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0646\u062f\u0649&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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 <td align="center"><br/>  تهانينا لك<br/> <b>Khaled</b><br/> تستحق هذا الوسام <br/> لحصولك على <b><span style="color:#000;">المركز الأول</span></b> <br/> <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85%D9%88_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B3%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D9%83%D8%AB%D8%B1_%D9%86%D8%B4%D8%A7%D8%B7%D8%A7/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B3%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B9_%D8%A7%D9%8411_2020" title="ويكيبيديا:مستخدمو الأسبوع الأكثر نشاطا/الأسبوع ال11 2020"><span style="color:blue">بعدد إنشاء المقالات</span></a></b><br/>شكراً لجهودك. <br/><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%AC%D8%AA%D9%85%D8%B9_%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="ويكيبيديا:مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربية"><b>مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربية</b></a>
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 <h2><span id=".D8.AD.D8.B0.D9.81_.D8.B3.D8.B1.D9.8A.D8.B9_.D9.84.D9.80_Deutsche_Forschungsanstalt_f.C3.BCr_Segelflug"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="حذف_سريع_لـ_Deutsche_Forschungsanstalt_für_Segelflug" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|\u062d\u0630\u0641_\u0633\u0631\u064a\u0639_\u0644\u0640_Deutsche_Forschungsanstalt_f\u00fcr_Segelflug|2020-03-20T13:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|JarBot|2020-03-20T13:30:00.000Z|\u062d\u0630\u0641_\u0633\u0631\u064a\u0639_\u0644\u0640_Deutsche_Forschungsanstalt_f\u00fcr_Segelflug&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|حذف_سريع_لـ_Deutsche_Forschungsanstalt_für_Segelflug|2020-03-20T13:30:00.000Z"></span>حذف سريع لـ <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Forschungsanstalt_f%C3%BCr_Segelflug" class="mw-redirect" title="Deutsche Forschungsanstalt für Segelflug">Deutsche Forschungsanstalt für Segelflug</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h|حذف_سريع_لـ_Deutsche_Forschungsanstalt_für_Segelflug|2020-03-20T13:30:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<div class="floatright"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D9%84%D9%81:Ambox_warning_pn.svg" class="image"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JarBot|2020-03-20T13:30:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ_Deutsche_Forschungsanstalt_für_Segelflug"></span><img alt="Ambox warning pn.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="42" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="445"/></a></div> مرحبًا. تم ترشيح الصفحة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Forschungsanstalt_f%C3%BCr_Segelflug" class="mw-redirect" title="Deutsche Forschungsanstalt für Segelflug">Deutsche Forschungsanstalt für Segelflug</a></b> التي قمتَ بإنشائها للحذف السريع؛ وذلك بسبب أنها مستوفية لواحد أو أكثر من <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%8A%D9%8A%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%B0%D9%81_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%B9" title="ويكيبيديا:معايير الحذف السريع">معايير الحذف السريع</a></b>، وهذا يعني أن الصفحة ستُحذف عن قريب. إذا كان لديك اعتراض على عملية الترشيح، يُمكنك إضافة أي نقاط هامة في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Forschungsanstalt_f%C3%BCr_Segelflug" class="mw-redirect" title="Deutsche Forschungsanstalt für Segelflug">صفحة نقاش المقالة</a></b>، أو يُمكنك طلب استرجاعها إذا تم حذفها من خلال صفحة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A5%D8%AE%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%8A%D9%86/%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%AC%D8%A7%D8%B9" title="ويكيبيديا:إخطار الإداريين/استرجاع">طلبات الاسترجاع</a> </b> -إذا كنتَ متأكدًا أن الصفحة غير مخالفة-. شكرًا لك. -- <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:JarBot" title="مستخدم:JarBot">JarBot</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:JarBot" class="mw-redirect" title="نقاش المستخدم:JarBot">نقاش</a>) 13:30، 20 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JarBot|2020-03-20T13:30:00.000Z|\u062d\u0630\u0641_\u0633\u0631\u064a\u0639_\u0644\u0640_Deutsche_Forschungsanstalt_f\u00fcr_Segelflug&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-20T13:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JarBot&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<div class="floatright"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D9%84%D9%81:Ambox_warning_pn.svg" class="image"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JarBot|2020-03-20T13:30:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ_Deutsche_Forschungsanstalt_für_Segelflug"></span><img alt="Ambox warning pn.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="42" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="445"/></a></div> مرحبًا. تم ترشيح الصفحة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Forschungsanstalt_f%C3%BCr_Segelflug" class="mw-redirect" title="Deutsche Forschungsanstalt für Segelflug">Deutsche Forschungsanstalt für Segelflug</a></b> التي قمتَ بإنشائها للحذف السريع؛ وذلك بسبب أنها مستوفية لواحد أو أكثر من <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%8A%D9%8A%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%B0%D9%81_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%B9" title="ويكيبيديا:معايير الحذف السريع">معايير الحذف السريع</a></b>، وهذا يعني أن الصفحة ستُحذف عن قريب. إذا كان لديك اعتراض على عملية الترشيح، يُمكنك إضافة أي نقاط هامة في <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Forschungsanstalt_f%C3%BCr_Segelflug" class="mw-redirect" title="Deutsche Forschungsanstalt für Segelflug">صفحة نقاش المقالة</a></b>، أو يُمكنك طلب استرجاعها إذا تم حذفها من خلال صفحة <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A5%D8%AE%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%8A%D9%86/%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%AC%D8%A7%D8%B9" title="ويكيبيديا:إخطار الإداريين/استرجاع">طلبات الاسترجاع</a> </b> -إذا كنتَ متأكدًا أن الصفحة غير مخالفة-. شكرًا لك. -- <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:JarBot" title="مستخدم:JarBot">JarBot</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:JarBot" class="mw-redirect" title="نقاش المستخدم:JarBot">نقاش</a>) 13:30، 20 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JarBot|2020-03-20T13:30:00.000Z|\u062d\u0630\u0641_\u0633\u0631\u064a\u0639_\u0644\u0640_Deutsche_Forschungsanstalt_f\u00fcr_Segelflug&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-20T13:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JarBot&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
 <h2><span id=".D8.A5.D8.B5.D9.84.D8.A7.D8.AD_.D8.AA.D8.B1.D8.AC.D9.85.D8.A9"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="إصلاح_ترجمة" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|\u0625\u0635\u0644\u0627\u062d_\u062a\u0631\u062c\u0645\u0629|2020-03-21T11:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2020-03-21T11:15:00.000Z|\u0625\u0635\u0644\u0627\u062d_\u062a\u0631\u062c\u0645\u0629&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|إصلاح_ترجمة|2020-03-21T11:15:00.000Z"></span>إصلاح ترجمة<span data-mw-comment-end="h|إصلاح_ترجمة|2020-03-21T11:15:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2020-03-21T11:15:00.000Z|إصلاح_ترجمة"></span>مساء الخير خالد، من مقالة <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D9%88%D8%B3%D9%8A%D9%82%D9%89_%D8%B2%D9%86%D8%AC%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="موسيقى زنجية">موسيقى زنجية</a>، "وشمل هذا المعرض ملصق عرض والكرتون كاريكاتير من اللعب من أصل إفريقي الذكور على ساكسفون مع نجمة داود على موقعه سهرة طية صدر السترة". المطلوب إصلاح هذه الترجمة. مع التحية.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">نقاش</a>) 11:15، 21 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2020-03-21T11:15:00.000Z|\u0625\u0635\u0644\u0627\u062d_\u062a\u0631\u062c\u0645\u0629&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-21T11:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2020-03-21T11:15:00.000Z|إصلاح_ترجمة"></span>مساء الخير خالد، من مقالة <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D9%88%D8%B3%D9%8A%D9%82%D9%89_%D8%B2%D9%86%D8%AC%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="موسيقى زنجية">موسيقى زنجية</a>، "وشمل هذا المعرض ملصق عرض والكرتون كاريكاتير من اللعب من أصل إفريقي الذكور على ساكسفون مع نجمة داود على موقعه سهرة طية صدر السترة". المطلوب إصلاح هذه الترجمة. مع التحية.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">نقاش</a>) 11:15، 21 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2020-03-21T11:15:00.000Z|\u0625\u0635\u0644\u0627\u062d_\u062a\u0631\u062c\u0645\u0629&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-21T11:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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 <td align="center"><br/>  تهانينا لك<br/> <b>Khaled</b><br/> تستحق هذا الوسام <br/> لحصولك على <b><span style="color:#000;">المركز الأول</span></b> <br/> <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85%D9%88_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B3%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D9%83%D8%AB%D8%B1_%D9%86%D8%B4%D8%A7%D8%B7%D8%A7/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B3%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B9_%D8%A7%D9%8412_2020" title="ويكيبيديا:مستخدمو الأسبوع الأكثر نشاطا/الأسبوع ال12 2020"><span style="color:blue">بعدد إنشاء المقالات</span></a></b><br/>شكراً لجهودك. <br/><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%AC%D8%AA%D9%85%D8%B9_%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="ويكيبيديا:مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربية"><b>مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربية</b></a>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Elph|2020-03-24T18:41:00.000Z|المقالات_الألمانية"></span>مرحبا أخي خالد. إن شاءالله تكون بألف خير. هناك أخطاء في اسم المقالات الألمانية التي أنشأتها مؤخرا فإن لم يكن لديك مانع سأقوم بنقلها للإسم الصحيح. بالطبع لا داعي للاستعجال ويمكننا مناقشتها واحدة تلو الأخرى. تحياتي--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Elph" title="نقاش المستخدم:Elph">عباس</a> 18:41، 24 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Elph|2020-03-24T18:41:00.000Z|\u0627\u0644\u0645\u0642\u0627\u0644\u0627\u062a_\u0627\u0644\u0623\u0644\u0645\u0627\u0646\u064a\u0629&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-24T18:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Elph&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Elph|2020-03-24T18:41:00.000Z|المقالات_الألمانية"></span>مرحبا أخي خالد. إن شاءالله تكون بألف خير. هناك أخطاء في اسم المقالات الألمانية التي أنشأتها مؤخرا فإن لم يكن لديك مانع سأقوم بنقلها للإسم الصحيح. بالطبع لا داعي للاستعجال ويمكننا مناقشتها واحدة تلو الأخرى. تحياتي--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Elph" title="نقاش المستخدم:Elph">عباس</a> 18:41، 24 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Elph|2020-03-24T18:41:00.000Z|\u0627\u0644\u0645\u0642\u0627\u0644\u0627\u062a_\u0627\u0644\u0623\u0644\u0645\u0627\u0646\u064a\u0629&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-24T18:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Elph&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<p>--<span style="font-family: Andalus; font-size: 18px; text-shadow: silver 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em;"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%B5%D9%84" title="مستخدم:فيصل"><span style="color:FF000000;"><b>فيصل </b></span></a><sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%B5%D9%84" title="نقاش المستخدم:فيصل"><b>(راسلني)</b></a></sup></span> 20:15، 24 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0641\u064a\u0635\u0644|2020-03-24T20:15:00.000Z|50,000_\u062a\u0639\u062f\u064a\u0644&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-24T20:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0641\u064a\u0635\u0644&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p>--<span style="font-family: Andalus; font-size: 18px; text-shadow: silver 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em;"><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%B5%D9%84" title="مستخدم:فيصل"><span style="color:FF000000;"><b>فيصل </b></span></a><sup><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%B5%D9%84" title="نقاش المستخدم:فيصل"><b>(راسلني)</b></a></sup></span> 20:15، 24 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0641\u064a\u0635\u0644|2020-03-24T20:15:00.000Z|50,000_\u062a\u0639\u062f\u064a\u0644&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-24T20:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0641\u064a\u0635\u0644&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Helmoony|2020-03-29T21:28:00.000Z|كرونة"></span>السلام خالد، أرجو أن تكون بخير. عندي طلب لو أمكن : هل من الممكن إنشاء <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%A8%D8%A9:%D8%AC%D8%A7%D8%A6%D8%AD%D8%A9_%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%B3_%D9%83%D9%88%D8%B1%D9%88%D9%86%D8%A7_2019%E2%80%9320" title="بوابة:جائحة فيروس كورونا 2019–20">بوابة:جائحة فيروس كورونا 2019–20</a> هذا سيسهل ربط المعلومات بينها. شكرا جزيلا --<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Helmoony" title="مستخدم:Helmoony">Helmoony</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Helmoony" title="نقاش المستخدم:Helmoony">نقاش</a>) 21:28، 29 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)
-المعذرة خالد، يبدو أنه وقع إنشاء البوابة ولكن لم يتم نشرها بالقدر الكافي <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%A8%D8%A9:%D9%83%D9%88%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AF-19" title="بوابة:كوفيد-19">بوابة:كوفيد-19</a>. --<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Helmoony" title="مستخدم:Helmoony">Helmoony</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Helmoony" title="نقاش المستخدم:Helmoony">نقاش</a>) 13:33، 30 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Helmoony|2020-03-29T21:28:00.000Z|\u0643\u0631\u0648\u0646\u0629&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-29T21:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Helmoony&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+المعذرة خالد، يبدو أنه وقع إنشاء البوابة ولكن لم يتم نشرها بالقدر الكافي <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%A8%D8%A9:%D9%83%D9%88%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AF-19" title="بوابة:كوفيد-19">بوابة:كوفيد-19</a>. --<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Helmoony" title="مستخدم:Helmoony">Helmoony</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:Helmoony" title="نقاش المستخدم:Helmoony">نقاش</a>) 13:33، 30 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Helmoony|2020-03-29T21:28:00.000Z|\u0643\u0631\u0648\u0646\u0629&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-29T21:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Helmoony&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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 <td align="center"><br/>  تهانينا لك<br/> <b>Khaled</b><br/> تستحق هذا الوسام <br/> لحصولك على <b><span style="color:#000;">المركز الأول</span></b> <br/> <b><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85%D9%88_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B3%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D9%83%D8%AB%D8%B1_%D9%86%D8%B4%D8%A7%D8%B7%D8%A7/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B3%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B9_%D8%A7%D9%8413_2020" title="ويكيبيديا:مستخدمو الأسبوع الأكثر نشاطا/الأسبوع ال13 2020"><span style="color:blue">بعدد إنشاء المقالات</span></a></b><br/>شكراً لجهودك. <br/><a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%85%D8%AC%D8%AA%D9%85%D8%B9_%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%A9" title="ويكيبيديا:مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربية"><b>مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربية</b></a>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2020-03-31T12:54:00.000Z|نسخ_تعديل"></span>مرحبًا خالد، يمكنك نقل الجزء الذي ترجمته في قسم SS بنفسك إلى مقالة <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%83%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%84_%D9%81%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%8A%D9%87%D8%B1_%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%B4%D9%8A%D9%84_%D9%81%D9%88%D9%86_%D8%AA%D9%88%D8%B3%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%86%D8%AC" title="كارل فرايهر ميشيل فون توسلينج">كارل فرايهر ميشيل فون توسلينج</a> حتى يحفظ باسمك. مع التحية.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">نقاش</a>) 12:54، 31 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2020-03-31T12:54:00.000Z|\u0646\u0633\u062e_\u062a\u0639\u062f\u064a\u0644&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-31T12:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2020-03-31T12:54:00.000Z|نسخ_تعديل"></span>مرحبًا خالد، يمكنك نقل الجزء الذي ترجمته في قسم SS بنفسك إلى مقالة <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%83%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%84_%D9%81%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%8A%D9%87%D8%B1_%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%B4%D9%8A%D9%84_%D9%81%D9%88%D9%86_%D8%AA%D9%88%D8%B3%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%86%D8%AC" title="كارل فرايهر ميشيل فون توسلينج">كارل فرايهر ميشيل فون توسلينج</a> حتى يحفظ باسمك. مع التحية.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">نقاش</a>) 12:54، 31 مارس 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2020-03-31T12:54:00.000Z|\u0646\u0633\u062e_\u062a\u0639\u062f\u064a\u0644&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-31T12:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2020-04-01T18:06:00.000Z|قوائم_الكتب"></span>مرحبًا خالد، قوائم الكتب التي تضاف مراجع في المقالات من الغالب إبقاؤها بلغاتها الأصلية دون ترجمة ليتيسر الوصول إليها، دون الحاجة للذهاب للمقالة الإنجليزية.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">نقاش</a>) 18:06، 1 أبريل 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2020-04-01T18:06:00.000Z|\u0642\u0648\u0627\u0626\u0645_\u0627\u0644\u0643\u062a\u0628&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-01T18:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2020-04-01T18:06:00.000Z|قوائم_الكتب"></span>مرحبًا خالد، قوائم الكتب التي تضاف مراجع في المقالات من الغالب إبقاؤها بلغاتها الأصلية دون ترجمة ليتيسر الوصول إليها، دون الحاجة للذهاب للمقالة الإنجليزية.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">نقاش</a>) 18:06، 1 أبريل 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2020-04-01T18:06:00.000Z|\u0642\u0648\u0627\u0626\u0645_\u0627\u0644\u0643\u062a\u0628&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-01T18:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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 <h2><span id=".D8.A7.D9.84.D8.A7.D8.AE.D8.AA.D8.B5.D8.A7.D8.B1.D8.A7.D8.AA_.D8.A7.D9.84.D8.A5.D9.86.D8.AC.D9.84.D9.8A.D8.B2.D9.8A.D8.A9"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="الاختصارات_الإنجليزية" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|\u0627\u0644\u0627\u062e\u062a\u0635\u0627\u0631\u0627\u062a_\u0627\u0644\u0625\u0646\u062c\u0644\u064a\u0632\u064a\u0629|2020-04-01T23:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2020-04-01T23:24:00.000Z|\u0627\u0644\u0627\u062e\u062a\u0635\u0627\u0631\u0627\u062a_\u0627\u0644\u0625\u0646\u062c\u0644\u064a\u0632\u064a\u0629&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|الاختصارات_الإنجليزية|2020-04-01T23:24:00.000Z"></span>الاختصارات الإنجليزية<span data-mw-comment-end="h|الاختصارات_الإنجليزية|2020-04-01T23:24:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2020-04-01T23:24:00.000Z|الاختصارات_الإنجليزية"></span>مرحبًا مجددًا، ملاحظة أخرى حول <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%AB%D8%A7%D9%82_%D8%AD%D8%B2%D8%A8_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%84_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%83%D9%88%D8%B1%D9%8A" title="ميثاق حزب العمال الكوري">ميثاق حزب العمال الكوري</a>، الكثيرون سيرون أن الاختصارات الإنجليزية لكيانات ومنظمات غير إنجليزية تعد زائدة ويجب حذفها. كما أن المقالة تتضمن خطأ في ترجمة عنوان قسم. أرجو تقبل الملاحظة.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">نقاش</a>) 23:24، 1 أبريل 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2020-04-01T23:24:00.000Z|\u0627\u0644\u0627\u062e\u062a\u0635\u0627\u0631\u0627\u062a_\u0627\u0644\u0625\u0646\u062c\u0644\u064a\u0632\u064a\u0629&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2020-04-02T13:25:00.000Z|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2020-04-01T23:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2020-04-02T13:35:00.000Z|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2020-04-01T23:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2020-04-02T13:50:00.000Z|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2020-04-01T23:24:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-01T23:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2020-04-01T23:24:00.000Z|الاختصارات_الإنجليزية"></span>مرحبًا مجددًا، ملاحظة أخرى حول <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%AB%D8%A7%D9%82_%D8%AD%D8%B2%D8%A8_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%84_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%83%D9%88%D8%B1%D9%8A" title="ميثاق حزب العمال الكوري">ميثاق حزب العمال الكوري</a>، الكثيرون سيرون أن الاختصارات الإنجليزية لكيانات ومنظمات غير إنجليزية تعد زائدة ويجب حذفها. كما أن المقالة تتضمن خطأ في ترجمة عنوان قسم. أرجو تقبل الملاحظة.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">نقاش</a>) 23:24، 1 أبريل 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2020-04-01T23:24:00.000Z|\u0627\u0644\u0627\u062e\u062a\u0635\u0627\u0631\u0627\u062a_\u0627\u0644\u0625\u0646\u062c\u0644\u064a\u0632\u064a\u0629&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2020-04-02T13:25:00.000Z|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2020-04-01T23:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2020-04-02T13:35:00.000Z|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2020-04-01T23:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2020-04-02T13:50:00.000Z|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2020-04-01T23:24:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-01T23:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
 <span data-mw-comment-end="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2020-04-01T23:24:00.000Z|الاختصارات_الإنجليزية"></span></p>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2020-04-02T13:25:00.000Z|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2020-04-01T23:24:00.000Z"></span>مرحبًا مجددًا، وجدت <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%82%D8%B3%D8%A7%D9%85_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B5%D9%8A%D9%86%D9%8A_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D9%88%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AA%D9%8A" class="mw-redirect" title="الانقسام الصيني السوفيتي">الانقسام الصيني السوفيتي</a> بها ترجمة عناوين المصادر الإنجليزية واستخدام الاختصارات الإنجليزية أيضًا.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">نقاش</a>) 13:25، 2 أبريل 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2020-04-02T13:25:00.000Z|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2020-04-01T23:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-02T13:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2020-04-02T13:25:00.000Z|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2020-04-01T23:24:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2020-04-02T13:35:00.000Z|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2020-04-01T23:24:00.000Z"></span>هناك اختصار USSR في مقدمة المقالة، والمراجع المترجمة يجب نسخها بأسمائها الأجنبية.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">نقاش</a>) 13:35، 2 أبريل 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2020-04-02T13:35:00.000Z|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2020-04-01T23:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-02T13:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2020-04-02T13:35:00.000Z|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2020-04-01T23:24:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2020-04-02T13:50:00.000Z|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2020-04-01T23:24:00.000Z"></span>شكرًا لك.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">نقاش</a>) 13:50، 2 أبريل 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2020-04-02T13:50:00.000Z|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2020-04-01T23:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-02T13:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d&quot;}">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2020-04-02T13:50:00.000Z|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2020-04-01T23:24:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JarBot|2018-08-10T16:54:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ_تبديل_محتوى/شرح"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JarBot|2018-09-04T17:48:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ_الرمح_السحرية"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JarBot|2018-10-10T15:30:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ_بوابة:هامبورغ/معلم_مختارة"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JarBot|2019-01-04T21:06:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ_بوابة:ديناصورات"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JarBot|2019-03-01T13:37:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ_بوابة:شركات/مصطلح_تجاري/أرشيف"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JarBot|2019-03-12T17:02:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ_قالب:IT-PUG"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|FPP|2019-09-26T19:22:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ_Neubaufahrzeug"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|مصعب العبود|2020-02-19T14:13:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JarBot|2020-02-19T14:36:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ_طباع_حجريون_ألمان"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|وهراني|2020-03-11T21:01:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ_بوابة:ليفربول"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JarBot|2020-03-20T13:30:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ_Deutsche_Forschungsanstalt_für_Segelflug"></span></div></div>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2020-04-02T13:25:00.000Z|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2020-04-01T23:24:00.000Z"></span>مرحبًا مجددًا، وجدت <a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%82%D8%B3%D8%A7%D9%85_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B5%D9%8A%D9%86%D9%8A_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D9%88%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AA%D9%8A" class="mw-redirect" title="الانقسام الصيني السوفيتي">الانقسام الصيني السوفيتي</a> بها ترجمة عناوين المصادر الإنجليزية واستخدام الاختصارات الإنجليزية أيضًا.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">نقاش</a>) 13:25، 2 أبريل 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2020-04-02T13:25:00.000Z|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2020-04-01T23:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-02T13:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2020-04-02T13:25:00.000Z|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2020-04-01T23:24:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2020-04-02T13:35:00.000Z|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2020-04-01T23:24:00.000Z"></span>هناك اختصار USSR في مقدمة المقالة، والمراجع المترجمة يجب نسخها بأسمائها الأجنبية.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">نقاش</a>) 13:35، 2 أبريل 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2020-04-02T13:35:00.000Z|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2020-04-01T23:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-02T13:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2020-04-02T13:35:00.000Z|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2020-04-01T23:24:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2020-04-02T13:50:00.000Z|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2020-04-01T23:24:00.000Z"></span>شكرًا لك.--<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="مستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح</a> (<a href="//ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD" title="نقاش المستخدم:محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح">نقاش</a>) 13:50، 2 أبريل 2020 (ت ع م)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2020-04-02T13:50:00.000Z|\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d|2020-04-01T23:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-02T13:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0623\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0639\u0628\u062f \u0627\u0644\u0641\u062a\u0627\u062d&quot;}" href="">ردّ</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2020-04-02T13:50:00.000Z|محمد أحمد عبد الفتاح|2020-04-01T23:24:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JarBot|2018-08-10T16:54:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ_تبديل_محتوى/شرح"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JarBot|2018-09-04T17:48:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ_الرمح_السحرية"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JarBot|2018-10-10T15:30:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ_بوابة:هامبورغ/معلم_مختارة"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JarBot|2019-01-04T21:06:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ_بوابة:ديناصورات"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JarBot|2019-03-01T13:37:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ_بوابة:شركات/مصطلح_تجاري/أرشيف"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JarBot|2019-03-12T17:02:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ_قالب:IT-PUG"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|FPP|2019-09-26T19:22:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ_Neubaufahrzeug"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|مصعب العبود|2020-02-19T14:13:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JarBot|2020-02-19T14:36:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ_طباع_حجريون_ألمان"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|وهراني|2020-03-11T21:01:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ_بوابة:ليفربول"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JarBot|2020-03-20T13:30:00.000Z|حذف_سريع_لـ_Deutsche_Forschungsanstalt_für_Segelflug"></span></div></div>
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-<p>The result was: <b>allow</b>; already overturned by <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:The_Bushranger" title="User:The Bushranger">The Bushranger</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ToBeFree" title="User:ToBeFree">~ ToBeFree</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ToBeFree" title="User talk:ToBeFree">talk</a>) 22:19, 22 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ToBeFree|2021-01-22T22:19:00.000Z|Threesom666&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T22:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ToBeFree&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ToBeFree|2021-01-22T22:19:00.000Z|Threesom666"></span>
+<p>The result was: <b>allow</b>; already overturned by <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:The_Bushranger" title="User:The Bushranger">The Bushranger</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ToBeFree" title="User:ToBeFree">~ ToBeFree</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ToBeFree" title="User talk:ToBeFree">talk</a>) 22:19, 22 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ToBeFree|2021-01-22T22:19:00.000Z|Threesom666&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T22:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ToBeFree&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ToBeFree|2021-01-22T22:19:00.000Z|Threesom666"></span>
 </p><p><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Threesom666&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Threesom666 (page does not exist)"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:18:00.000Z|Threesom666"></span>Threesom666</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Threesom666" title="User talk:Threesom666">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Threesom666" title="Special:Contributions/Threesom666">contribs</a>)
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-<dl><dd>So this is actually a weird semi-backdoor unblock request. User was blocked for their username, but after coming in to IRC asking why they were blocked it occurred to me (and a few other helpers) that the name isn't <i>that</i> provocative. Basically, I think the block was a little excessive but I don't want to wheel-war with <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> over the matter. I figure since the block was entirely username-related that it would be reasonable to discuss the issue here. Thanks. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Primefac" title="User:Primefac">Primefac</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Primefac" title="User talk:Primefac">talk</a>) 15:18, 22 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:18:00.000Z|Threesom666&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|331dot|2021-01-22T15:27:00.000Z|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Pawnkingthree|2021-01-22T15:34:00.000Z|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Girth Summit|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:18:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T15:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Primefac&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:18:00.000Z|Threesom666"></span></dd></dl>
-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|331dot|2021-01-22T15:27:00.000Z|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:18:00.000Z"></span>I blocked in response to a <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AUsernames_for_administrator_attention&amp;type=revision&amp;diff=999688531&amp;oldid=999687981">UAA request</a>.  I also note that the user's unblock request without a username change was declined by <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Yamla" title="User:Yamla">Yamla</a>. The name references <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threesome" title="Threesome">Threesome</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_beast" title="Number of the beast">Number of the beast</a>(666). <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) 15:27, 22 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|331dot|2021-01-22T15:27:00.000Z|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:39:00.000Z|331dot|2021-01-22T15:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T15:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;331dot&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|331dot|2021-01-22T15:27:00.000Z|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:18:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:39:00.000Z|331dot|2021-01-22T15:27:00.000Z"></span>Right, which is why I'm somewhat on the fence. I get the 666 issue, but "threesome" to me is, well, not really that much of an issue in this day and age. I guess I just don't see 666 as enough of a problem to block; maybe I'm just weird. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Primefac" title="User:Primefac">Primefac</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Primefac" title="User talk:Primefac">talk</a>) 15:39, 22 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:39:00.000Z|331dot|2021-01-22T15:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|331dot|2021-01-22T15:41:00.000Z|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:39:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T15:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Primefac&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:39:00.000Z|331dot|2021-01-22T15:27:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|331dot|2021-01-22T15:41:00.000Z|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:39:00.000Z"></span>I guess at the time I felt that if one person was offended enough to report it that it was probably offensive, but if the community feels differently, I can live with that. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) 15:41, 22 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|331dot|2021-01-22T15:41:00.000Z|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T15:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;331dot&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|331dot|2021-01-22T15:41:00.000Z|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Pawnkingthree|2021-01-22T15:34:00.000Z|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:18:00.000Z"></span>The sexual reference is mild. "666" on its own is not offensive at all. I suppose it the combination of the two that is the issue? Personally I don't see it rising to the level of <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r989825325">.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">making harmonious editing difficult or impossible</q>.-- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pawnkingthree" title="User:Pawnkingthree">P-K3</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pawnkingthree" title="User talk:Pawnkingthree">talk</a>) 15:34, 22 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pawnkingthree|2021-01-22T15:34:00.000Z|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T15:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pawnkingthree&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Pawnkingthree|2021-01-22T15:34:00.000Z|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:18:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Girth Summit|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:18:00.000Z"></span>I personally wouldn't have blocked for the username on its own. If I'd seen the username and just looked at <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Horned_God&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=967550364">this</a> edit though, and seen the signature, I might have blocked as not being here for the right reasons. I wouldn't however have a problem with someone of that username gnoming around in American football articles, which seems to be their primary interest. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Girth_Summit" title="User:Girth Summit"><span style="font-family:Impact;color:#006400;">Girth</span><span style="font-family:Impact;color:#4B0082;">Summit</span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Girth_Summit" title="User talk:Girth Summit"><sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)</sub></a> 15:48, 22 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Girth Summit|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Girth Summit&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Girth Summit|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:18:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
-<div class="outdent-template" style="position:relative;left:1px;"><span style="display:block;width:16em;height:0.5em;border-bottom:1px solid #AAA;border-right:1px solid #AAA;"></span><span style="display:block;width:16em;height:0.5em;border-left:1px solid #AAA;"></span></div><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Primefac" title="User:Primefac"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z|Threesom666"></span>Primefac</a>, I'm not saying we should dilute the potency of certain usernames (obviously, to a <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:POINT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:POINT">point</a>), but I think it still needs to be tasteful in so far as what the username <i>depicts</i>. Like with a Threesome-this or an Orgy-that or whatever. I don't think it reflects well on the project to have usernames like those around. I don't want kids to see that. While the more <i>intellectually</i> potent usernames will just go over their heads, the more direct crass sex stuff has little if any utility. We gotta use common sense when weighing <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CENSOR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CENSOR">WP:CENSOR</a> against <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTFREESPEECH" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTFREESPEECH">WP:NOTFREESPEECH</a>. I think both <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a>, who applied the <i>soft</i> block, and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Yamla" title="User:Yamla">Yamla</a>, who declined the unblock request, made the right call. Significantly, the blocked user reacted by saying: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r989825325"/><q class="inline-quote-talk">My screen name is my name and represents me. I dont care of contributing anymore if it’s going to block because of my name</q>. <s>Sorry, but to me, that comes across as a bit immature. Oh well. Hope they reconsider.</s> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:El_C" title="User:El C">El_C</a> 15:48, 22 January 2021 (UTC) <small><u>Added:</u> not sure why I thought this was a brand new account, but obviously I was in error. Struck. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:El_C" title="User:El C">El_C</a> 17:58, 22 January 2021 (UTC)</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z|Threesom666&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:52:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Mjroots|2021-01-22T16:55:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Jessamyn|2021-01-22T17:11:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Dolotta|2021-01-22T17:25:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|The Earwig|2021-01-22T17:32:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|EvergreenFir|2021-01-22T19:19:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|The Bushranger|2021-01-22T22:08:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;El C&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z|Threesom666"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:52:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z"></span>Reasonable argument (and most of those were things I tried to discuss with them as reasons why they were blocked). For what it's worth I'm willing to be convinced in either direction. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Primefac" title="User:Primefac">Primefac</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Primefac" title="User talk:Primefac">talk</a>) 15:52, 22 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:52:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|El C|2021-01-22T16:21:00.000Z|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T15:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Primefac&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:52:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Primefac" title="User:Primefac"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|El C|2021-01-22T16:21:00.000Z|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:52:00.000Z"></span>Primefac</a>, I guess what I'm getting at is that we should be wary of anything too <i>explicit</i>: like really ghoulish or of a sexual nature or about bodily fluids or whatever. I realize many kids are exposed to much worse, but there are still many kids whose internet is closely regulated by their parents and who may have safeguards to prevent their kids from reading the actual Wikipedia article on these subjects. We should not betray the trust of those parents who allow their kids to be "gnoming around in American football articles," which <i>ought</i> to be an innocent enough affair. Wikipedia is, ultimately, a <i><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ENC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ENC">scholarly</a></i> pursuit (serious bizness!<abbr title="Kitty" style="border-bottom: none;"><img alt="Kitty emoji.png" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4f/Kitty_emoji.png/18px-Kitty_emoji.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4f/Kitty_emoji.png/27px-Kitty_emoji.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4f/Kitty_emoji.png/36px-Kitty_emoji.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="180"/></abbr>), but why not be welcoming of everyone? The tradeoff looks intuitive to me and it falls squarely on the side of being respectful (of the sensibilities of kids — as for adults, fuck'em). <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:El_C" title="User:El C">El_C</a> 16:21, 22 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|El C|2021-01-22T16:21:00.000Z|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Yamla|2021-01-22T16:36:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T16:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|The Bushranger|2021-01-22T22:08:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T16:21:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T16:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;El C&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|El C|2021-01-22T16:21:00.000Z|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:52:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Yamla|2021-01-22T16:36:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T16:21:00.000Z"></span>I wouldn't have blocked this username myself, had I noticed it first. That said, I don't think the block was inappropriate. This is a judgment call, and the username is certainly skirting the edges. I declined the unblock request because it wasn't a request to be unblocked, as far as I can see, but rather a declaration that they don't plan to edit further. Totally unrelated, I found <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threesome_(1994_film)" title="Threesome (1994 film)">Threesome (1994 film)</a> rather entertaining. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Yamla" title="User:Yamla">Yamla</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Yamla" title="User talk:Yamla">talk</a>) 16:36, 22 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Yamla|2021-01-22T16:36:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T16:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|El C|2021-01-22T16:53:00.000Z|Yamla|2021-01-22T16:36:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T16:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Yamla&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Yamla|2021-01-22T16:36:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T16:21:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|El C|2021-01-22T16:53:00.000Z|Yamla|2021-01-22T16:36:00.000Z"></span>I think what I'm talking about here is probably a more amorphous principle, because, like <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Yamla" title="User:Yamla">Yamla</a>, I don't know if I would have blocked that username, either (as <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> says, absent a complaint). Because as far as sex stuff usernames go, it is indeed rather tame. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:El_C" title="User:El C">El_C</a> 16:53, 22 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|El C|2021-01-22T16:53:00.000Z|Yamla|2021-01-22T16:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T16:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;El C&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|El C|2021-01-22T16:53:00.000Z|Yamla|2021-01-22T16:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|The Bushranger|2021-01-22T22:08:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T16:21:00.000Z"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r989825325"/><q class="inline-quote-talk">We should not betray the trust of those parents who allow their kids to be "gnoming around in American football articles," which ought to be an innocent enough affair.</q> While fair as far as it goes, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTCENSORED" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTCENSORED">Wikipedia is not censored</a> and we are also not the morality police. - <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:The_Bushranger" title="User:The Bushranger">The Bushranger</a> <sub><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Bushranger" title="User talk:The Bushranger"><span style="color: maroon;">One ping only</span></a></sub> 22:08, 22 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|The Bushranger|2021-01-22T22:08:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T16:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T22:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;The Bushranger&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|The Bushranger|2021-01-22T22:08:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T16:21:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Mjroots|2021-01-22T16:55:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z"></span>I don't see the name as that much of a problem. Slightly risqué but no more than that. If it were up to me, I'd unblock. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mjroots" title="User:Mjroots">Mjroots</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mjroots" title="User talk:Mjroots">talk</a>) 16:55, 22 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mjroots|2021-01-22T16:55:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|El C|2021-01-22T17:10:00.000Z|Mjroots|2021-01-22T16:55:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T16:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mjroots&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Mjroots|2021-01-22T16:55:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
-<dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|El C|2021-01-22T17:10:00.000Z|Mjroots|2021-01-22T16:55:00.000Z"></span>True enough. On second thought, something like <i>User:The Illustrious Roman Orgy</i>, for example, is actually a pretty cool username (I just invented). <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:El_C" title="User:El C">El_C</a> 17:10, 22 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|El C|2021-01-22T17:10:00.000Z|Mjroots|2021-01-22T16:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T17:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;El C&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|El C|2021-01-22T17:10:00.000Z|Mjroots|2021-01-22T16:55:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl>
-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Jessamyn|2021-01-22T17:11:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z"></span>Agree with many people above, I don't see this username as any big deal. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jessamyn" title="User:Jessamyn">Jessamyn</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jessamyn" title="User talk:Jessamyn">talk</a>) 17:11, 22 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Jessamyn|2021-01-22T17:11:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T17:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Jessamyn&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Jessamyn|2021-01-22T17:11:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Dolotta|2021-01-22T17:25:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z"></span>Unblock</b> -- The first thing I thought of when I saw the username was a golf threesome. The editor has edited off-and-on for 13+ years. I don't see any problem with the username. Great ... now I'm wishing it wasn't 8 degrees F. out and I could get a round of golf in. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dolotta" title="User:Dolotta">Dolotta</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dolotta" title="User talk:Dolotta">talk</a>) 17:25, 22 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Dolotta|2021-01-22T17:25:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T17:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Dolotta&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Dolotta|2021-01-22T17:25:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|The Earwig|2021-01-22T17:32:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z"></span>Bad block</b> for a user registered in <i>2005</i> with a questionable-at-worst username and no attempt at discussion. Sure, there are dubious edits, but nothing I would immediately block for; the unblock reason is poor, but they are probably upset. The <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horned_God" title="Horned God">Horned God</a> edit is not clearly in bad faith to me: the edit summary is joke-y and the image should have been a thumbnail, but is not inappropriate for the article. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:The_Earwig" title="User:The Earwig"><span style="color:#060;">The Earwig</span></a> <sup><i><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Earwig" title="User talk:The Earwig"><span style="color:#000;">talk</span></a></i></sup> 17:32, 22 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|The Earwig|2021-01-22T17:32:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T17:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;The Earwig&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|The Earwig|2021-01-22T17:32:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|EvergreenFir|2021-01-22T19:19:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z"></span>Unblock </b>- that name is <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_picture_content_rating_system" title="Motion picture content rating system">PG</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:EvergreenFir" title="User:EvergreenFir"><b><span style="color:#8b00ff;">Eve</span><span style="color:#6528c2;">rgr</span><span style="color:#3f5184;">een</span><span style="color:#197947;">Fir</span></b></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:EvergreenFir" title="User talk:EvergreenFir">(talk)</a> 19:19, 22 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|EvergreenFir|2021-01-22T19:19:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T19:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;EvergreenFir&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|EvergreenFir|2021-01-22T19:19:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<dl><dd>So this is actually a weird semi-backdoor unblock request. User was blocked for their username, but after coming in to IRC asking why they were blocked it occurred to me (and a few other helpers) that the name isn't <i>that</i> provocative. Basically, I think the block was a little excessive but I don't want to wheel-war with <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> over the matter. I figure since the block was entirely username-related that it would be reasonable to discuss the issue here. Thanks. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Primefac" title="User:Primefac">Primefac</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Primefac" title="User talk:Primefac">talk</a>) 15:18, 22 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:18:00.000Z|Threesom666&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|331dot|2021-01-22T15:27:00.000Z|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Pawnkingthree|2021-01-22T15:34:00.000Z|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Girth Summit|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:18:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T15:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Primefac&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:18:00.000Z|Threesom666"></span></dd></dl>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|331dot|2021-01-22T15:27:00.000Z|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:18:00.000Z"></span>I blocked in response to a <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AUsernames_for_administrator_attention&amp;type=revision&amp;diff=999688531&amp;oldid=999687981">UAA request</a>.  I also note that the user's unblock request without a username change was declined by <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Yamla" title="User:Yamla">Yamla</a>. The name references <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threesome" title="Threesome">Threesome</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_beast" title="Number of the beast">Number of the beast</a>(666). <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) 15:27, 22 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|331dot|2021-01-22T15:27:00.000Z|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:39:00.000Z|331dot|2021-01-22T15:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T15:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;331dot&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|331dot|2021-01-22T15:27:00.000Z|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:18:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:39:00.000Z|331dot|2021-01-22T15:27:00.000Z"></span>Right, which is why I'm somewhat on the fence. I get the 666 issue, but "threesome" to me is, well, not really that much of an issue in this day and age. I guess I just don't see 666 as enough of a problem to block; maybe I'm just weird. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Primefac" title="User:Primefac">Primefac</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Primefac" title="User talk:Primefac">talk</a>) 15:39, 22 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:39:00.000Z|331dot|2021-01-22T15:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|331dot|2021-01-22T15:41:00.000Z|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:39:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T15:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Primefac&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:39:00.000Z|331dot|2021-01-22T15:27:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|331dot|2021-01-22T15:41:00.000Z|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:39:00.000Z"></span>I guess at the time I felt that if one person was offended enough to report it that it was probably offensive, but if the community feels differently, I can live with that. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) 15:41, 22 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|331dot|2021-01-22T15:41:00.000Z|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T15:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;331dot&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|331dot|2021-01-22T15:41:00.000Z|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Pawnkingthree|2021-01-22T15:34:00.000Z|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:18:00.000Z"></span>The sexual reference is mild. "666" on its own is not offensive at all. I suppose it the combination of the two that is the issue? Personally I don't see it rising to the level of <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r989825325">.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">making harmonious editing difficult or impossible</q>.-- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pawnkingthree" title="User:Pawnkingthree">P-K3</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pawnkingthree" title="User talk:Pawnkingthree">talk</a>) 15:34, 22 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pawnkingthree|2021-01-22T15:34:00.000Z|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T15:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pawnkingthree&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Pawnkingthree|2021-01-22T15:34:00.000Z|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:18:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Girth Summit|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:18:00.000Z"></span>I personally wouldn't have blocked for the username on its own. If I'd seen the username and just looked at <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Horned_God&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=967550364">this</a> edit though, and seen the signature, I might have blocked as not being here for the right reasons. I wouldn't however have a problem with someone of that username gnoming around in American football articles, which seems to be their primary interest. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Girth_Summit" title="User:Girth Summit"><span style="font-family:Impact;color:#006400;">Girth</span><span style="font-family:Impact;color:#4B0082;">Summit</span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Girth_Summit" title="User talk:Girth Summit"><sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)</sub></a> 15:48, 22 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Girth Summit|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Girth Summit&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Girth Summit|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:18:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<div class="outdent-template" style="position:relative;left:1px;"><span style="display:block;width:16em;height:0.5em;border-bottom:1px solid #AAA;border-right:1px solid #AAA;"></span><span style="display:block;width:16em;height:0.5em;border-left:1px solid #AAA;"></span></div><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Primefac" title="User:Primefac"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z|Threesom666"></span>Primefac</a>, I'm not saying we should dilute the potency of certain usernames (obviously, to a <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:POINT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:POINT">point</a>), but I think it still needs to be tasteful in so far as what the username <i>depicts</i>. Like with a Threesome-this or an Orgy-that or whatever. I don't think it reflects well on the project to have usernames like those around. I don't want kids to see that. While the more <i>intellectually</i> potent usernames will just go over their heads, the more direct crass sex stuff has little if any utility. We gotta use common sense when weighing <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CENSOR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CENSOR">WP:CENSOR</a> against <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTFREESPEECH" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTFREESPEECH">WP:NOTFREESPEECH</a>. I think both <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a>, who applied the <i>soft</i> block, and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Yamla" title="User:Yamla">Yamla</a>, who declined the unblock request, made the right call. Significantly, the blocked user reacted by saying: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r989825325"/><q class="inline-quote-talk">My screen name is my name and represents me. I dont care of contributing anymore if it’s going to block because of my name</q>. <s>Sorry, but to me, that comes across as a bit immature. Oh well. Hope they reconsider.</s> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:El_C" title="User:El C">El_C</a> 15:48, 22 January 2021 (UTC) <small><u>Added:</u> not sure why I thought this was a brand new account, but obviously I was in error. Struck. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:El_C" title="User:El C">El_C</a> 17:58, 22 January 2021 (UTC)</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z|Threesom666&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:52:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Mjroots|2021-01-22T16:55:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Jessamyn|2021-01-22T17:11:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Dolotta|2021-01-22T17:25:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|The Earwig|2021-01-22T17:32:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|EvergreenFir|2021-01-22T19:19:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|The Bushranger|2021-01-22T22:08:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;El C&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z|Threesom666"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:52:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z"></span>Reasonable argument (and most of those were things I tried to discuss with them as reasons why they were blocked). For what it's worth I'm willing to be convinced in either direction. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Primefac" title="User:Primefac">Primefac</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Primefac" title="User talk:Primefac">talk</a>) 15:52, 22 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:52:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|El C|2021-01-22T16:21:00.000Z|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T15:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Primefac&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:52:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Primefac" title="User:Primefac"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|El C|2021-01-22T16:21:00.000Z|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:52:00.000Z"></span>Primefac</a>, I guess what I'm getting at is that we should be wary of anything too <i>explicit</i>: like really ghoulish or of a sexual nature or about bodily fluids or whatever. I realize many kids are exposed to much worse, but there are still many kids whose internet is closely regulated by their parents and who may have safeguards to prevent their kids from reading the actual Wikipedia article on these subjects. We should not betray the trust of those parents who allow their kids to be "gnoming around in American football articles," which <i>ought</i> to be an innocent enough affair. Wikipedia is, ultimately, a <i><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ENC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ENC">scholarly</a></i> pursuit (serious bizness!<abbr title="Kitty" style="border-bottom: none;"><img alt="Kitty emoji.png" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4f/Kitty_emoji.png/18px-Kitty_emoji.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4f/Kitty_emoji.png/27px-Kitty_emoji.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4f/Kitty_emoji.png/36px-Kitty_emoji.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="180"/></abbr>), but why not be welcoming of everyone? The tradeoff looks intuitive to me and it falls squarely on the side of being respectful (of the sensibilities of kids — as for adults, fuck'em). <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:El_C" title="User:El C">El_C</a> 16:21, 22 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|El C|2021-01-22T16:21:00.000Z|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Yamla|2021-01-22T16:36:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T16:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|The Bushranger|2021-01-22T22:08:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T16:21:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T16:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;El C&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|El C|2021-01-22T16:21:00.000Z|Primefac|2021-01-22T15:52:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Yamla|2021-01-22T16:36:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T16:21:00.000Z"></span>I wouldn't have blocked this username myself, had I noticed it first. That said, I don't think the block was inappropriate. This is a judgment call, and the username is certainly skirting the edges. I declined the unblock request because it wasn't a request to be unblocked, as far as I can see, but rather a declaration that they don't plan to edit further. Totally unrelated, I found <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threesome_(1994_film)" title="Threesome (1994 film)">Threesome (1994 film)</a> rather entertaining. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Yamla" title="User:Yamla">Yamla</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Yamla" title="User talk:Yamla">talk</a>) 16:36, 22 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Yamla|2021-01-22T16:36:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T16:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|El C|2021-01-22T16:53:00.000Z|Yamla|2021-01-22T16:36:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T16:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Yamla&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Yamla|2021-01-22T16:36:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T16:21:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|El C|2021-01-22T16:53:00.000Z|Yamla|2021-01-22T16:36:00.000Z"></span>I think what I'm talking about here is probably a more amorphous principle, because, like <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Yamla" title="User:Yamla">Yamla</a>, I don't know if I would have blocked that username, either (as <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> says, absent a complaint). Because as far as sex stuff usernames go, it is indeed rather tame. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:El_C" title="User:El C">El_C</a> 16:53, 22 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|El C|2021-01-22T16:53:00.000Z|Yamla|2021-01-22T16:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T16:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;El C&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|El C|2021-01-22T16:53:00.000Z|Yamla|2021-01-22T16:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|The Bushranger|2021-01-22T22:08:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T16:21:00.000Z"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r989825325"/><q class="inline-quote-talk">We should not betray the trust of those parents who allow their kids to be "gnoming around in American football articles," which ought to be an innocent enough affair.</q> While fair as far as it goes, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTCENSORED" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTCENSORED">Wikipedia is not censored</a> and we are also not the morality police. - <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:The_Bushranger" title="User:The Bushranger">The Bushranger</a> <sub><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Bushranger" title="User talk:The Bushranger"><span style="color: maroon;">One ping only</span></a></sub> 22:08, 22 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|The Bushranger|2021-01-22T22:08:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T16:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T22:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;The Bushranger&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|The Bushranger|2021-01-22T22:08:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T16:21:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Mjroots|2021-01-22T16:55:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z"></span>I don't see the name as that much of a problem. Slightly risqué but no more than that. If it were up to me, I'd unblock. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mjroots" title="User:Mjroots">Mjroots</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mjroots" title="User talk:Mjroots">talk</a>) 16:55, 22 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mjroots|2021-01-22T16:55:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|El C|2021-01-22T17:10:00.000Z|Mjroots|2021-01-22T16:55:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T16:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mjroots&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Mjroots|2021-01-22T16:55:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|El C|2021-01-22T17:10:00.000Z|Mjroots|2021-01-22T16:55:00.000Z"></span>True enough. On second thought, something like <i>User:The Illustrious Roman Orgy</i>, for example, is actually a pretty cool username (I just invented). <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:El_C" title="User:El C">El_C</a> 17:10, 22 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|El C|2021-01-22T17:10:00.000Z|Mjroots|2021-01-22T16:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T17:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;El C&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|El C|2021-01-22T17:10:00.000Z|Mjroots|2021-01-22T16:55:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Jessamyn|2021-01-22T17:11:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z"></span>Agree with many people above, I don't see this username as any big deal. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jessamyn" title="User:Jessamyn">Jessamyn</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jessamyn" title="User talk:Jessamyn">talk</a>) 17:11, 22 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Jessamyn|2021-01-22T17:11:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T17:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Jessamyn&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Jessamyn|2021-01-22T17:11:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Dolotta|2021-01-22T17:25:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z"></span>Unblock</b> -- The first thing I thought of when I saw the username was a golf threesome. The editor has edited off-and-on for 13+ years. I don't see any problem with the username. Great ... now I'm wishing it wasn't 8 degrees F. out and I could get a round of golf in. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dolotta" title="User:Dolotta">Dolotta</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dolotta" title="User talk:Dolotta">talk</a>) 17:25, 22 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Dolotta|2021-01-22T17:25:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T17:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Dolotta&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Dolotta|2021-01-22T17:25:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|The Earwig|2021-01-22T17:32:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z"></span>Bad block</b> for a user registered in <i>2005</i> with a questionable-at-worst username and no attempt at discussion. Sure, there are dubious edits, but nothing I would immediately block for; the unblock reason is poor, but they are probably upset. The <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horned_God" title="Horned God">Horned God</a> edit is not clearly in bad faith to me: the edit summary is joke-y and the image should have been a thumbnail, but is not inappropriate for the article. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:The_Earwig" title="User:The Earwig"><span style="color:#060;">The Earwig</span></a> <sup><i><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Earwig" title="User talk:The Earwig"><span style="color:#000;">talk</span></a></i></sup> 17:32, 22 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|The Earwig|2021-01-22T17:32:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T17:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;The Earwig&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|The Earwig|2021-01-22T17:32:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|EvergreenFir|2021-01-22T19:19:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z"></span>Unblock </b>- that name is <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_picture_content_rating_system" title="Motion picture content rating system">PG</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:EvergreenFir" title="User:EvergreenFir"><b><span style="color:#8b00ff;">Eve</span><span style="color:#6528c2;">rgr</span><span style="color:#3f5184;">een</span><span style="color:#197947;">Fir</span></b></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:EvergreenFir" title="User talk:EvergreenFir">(talk)</a> 19:19, 22 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|EvergreenFir|2021-01-22T19:19:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T19:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;EvergreenFir&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|EvergreenFir|2021-01-22T19:19:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
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-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|The Bushranger|2021-01-22T22:08:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z"></span>After considering and looking over the above, I have <b>unblocked</b> the editor. I believe the block was good faith but <i>also</i> should not have been made, and in the future <i>long-term</i> accounts like this, unless the name is <i>truly</i> out there, should be given a "hey, your username might be questionable, would you like to change it?" ping first if at all. Remember that there's lots of "questionable" usernames from long-term users here, and some of them are even admins. - <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:The_Bushranger" title="User:The Bushranger">The Bushranger</a> <sub><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Bushranger" title="User talk:The Bushranger"><span style="color: maroon;">One ping only</span></a></sub> 22:08, 22 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|The Bushranger|2021-01-22T22:08:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T22:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;The Bushranger&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|The Bushranger|2021-01-22T22:08:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|The Bushranger|2021-01-22T22:08:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z"></span>After considering and looking over the above, I have <b>unblocked</b> the editor. I believe the block was good faith but <i>also</i> should not have been made, and in the future <i>long-term</i> accounts like this, unless the name is <i>truly</i> out there, should be given a "hey, your username might be questionable, would you like to change it?" ping first if at all. Remember that there's lots of "questionable" usernames from long-term users here, and some of them are even admins. - <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:The_Bushranger" title="User:The Bushranger">The Bushranger</a> <sub><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Bushranger" title="User talk:The Bushranger"><span style="color: maroon;">One ping only</span></a></sub> 22:08, 22 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|The Bushranger|2021-01-22T22:08:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T22:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;The Bushranger&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|The Bushranger|2021-01-22T22:08:00.000Z|El C|2021-01-22T15:48:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
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-<p>The article lacks sourcing. It was quite promotional before I axed it. An AfC draft that fell through the cracks. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:I_dream_of_horses" title="User:I dream of horses">I dream of horses</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/I_dream_of_horses" title="Special:Contributions/I dream of horses">(Contribs)</a> Please <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTIFY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTIFY">notify</a> me after replying off my <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:I_dream_of_horses" title="User talk:I dream of horses">talk page.</a> Thank you. 11:37, 20 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z|Equal_Education&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z|1&quot;,&quot;c|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z|2&quot;,&quot;c|Cupper52|2021-01-20T13:37:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Adamant1|2021-01-24T23:33:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Redoryxx|2021-01-22T01:51:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;I dream of horses&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z|Equal_Education"></span>
+<p>The article lacks sourcing. It was quite promotional before I axed it. An AfC draft that fell through the cracks. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:I_dream_of_horses" title="User:I dream of horses">I dream of horses</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/I_dream_of_horses" title="Special:Contributions/I dream of horses">(Contribs)</a> Please <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTIFY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTIFY">notify</a> me after replying off my <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:I_dream_of_horses" title="User talk:I dream of horses">talk page.</a> Thank you. 11:37, 20 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z|Equal_Education&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z|1&quot;,&quot;c|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z|2&quot;,&quot;c|Cupper52|2021-01-20T13:37:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Adamant1|2021-01-24T23:33:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Redoryxx|2021-01-22T01:51:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;I dream of horses&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z|Equal_Education"></span>
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-<dd><small class="delsort-notice"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z|1"></span>Note:  This discussion has been included in the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Deletion_sorting/Education" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Education">list of Education-related deletion discussions</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:I_dream_of_horses" title="User:I dream of horses">I dream of horses</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/I_dream_of_horses" title="Special:Contributions/I dream of horses">(Contribs)</a> Please <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTIFY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTIFY">notify</a> me after replying off my <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:I_dream_of_horses" title="User talk:I dream of horses">talk page.</a> Thank you. 11:37, 20 January 2021 (UTC)<span data-mw-comment-end="c|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z|1"></span></small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z|1&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;I dream of horses&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd>
-<dd><small class="delsort-notice"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z|2"></span>Note:  This discussion has been included in the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Deletion_sorting/South_Africa" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/South Africa">list of South Africa-related deletion discussions</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:I_dream_of_horses" title="User:I dream of horses">I dream of horses</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/I_dream_of_horses" title="Special:Contributions/I dream of horses">(Contribs)</a> Please <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTIFY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTIFY">notify</a> me after replying off my <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:I_dream_of_horses" title="User talk:I dream of horses">talk page.</a> Thank you. 11:37, 20 January 2021 (UTC)<span data-mw-comment-end="c|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z|2"></span></small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z|2&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;I dream of horses&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd></dl>
-<ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Cupper52|2021-01-20T13:37:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z"></span>Keep</b> I have found a source. –<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cupper52" title="User:Cupper52"><span style="color:#296"><b>Cupper</b></span><span style="Color:#1346"><b>52</b></span></a><sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cupper52" title="User talk:Cupper52"><span style="color:LIGHTGREEN;"><b>Discuss!</b></span></a></sup> 13:37, 20 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Cupper52|2021-01-20T13:37:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-20T13:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Cupper52&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Cupper52|2021-01-20T13:37:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Adamant1|2021-01-24T23:33:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z"></span>Can you provide the source so it can be added to the article? --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Adamant1" title="User:Adamant1">Adamant1</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Adamant1" title="User talk:Adamant1">talk</a>) 23:33, 24 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Adamant1|2021-01-24T23:33:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-24T23:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Adamant1&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Adamant1|2021-01-24T23:33:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
-<ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redoryxx|2021-01-22T01:51:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z"></span>Delete</b> Agreed that this article is lacking sourcing. The source provided does not meet <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a> and doesn't show notability. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Redoryxx&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Redoryxx (page does not exist)">Redoryxx</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redoryxx" title="User talk:Redoryxx">talk</a>) 01:51, 22 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redoryxx|2021-01-22T01:51:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T01:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redoryxx&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redoryxx|2021-01-22T01:51:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<dl><dd><small class="delsort-notice"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z"></span>Note:  This discussion has been included in the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Deletion_sorting/Organizations" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Organizations">list of Organizations-related deletion discussions</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:I_dream_of_horses" title="User:I dream of horses">I dream of horses</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/I_dream_of_horses" title="Special:Contributions/I dream of horses">(Contribs)</a> Please <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTIFY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTIFY">notify</a> me after replying off my <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:I_dream_of_horses" title="User talk:I dream of horses">talk page.</a> Thank you. 11:37, 20 January 2021 (UTC)<span data-mw-comment-end="c|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z"></span></small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;I dream of horses&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd>
+<dd><small class="delsort-notice"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z|1"></span>Note:  This discussion has been included in the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Deletion_sorting/Education" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Education">list of Education-related deletion discussions</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:I_dream_of_horses" title="User:I dream of horses">I dream of horses</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/I_dream_of_horses" title="Special:Contributions/I dream of horses">(Contribs)</a> Please <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTIFY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTIFY">notify</a> me after replying off my <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:I_dream_of_horses" title="User talk:I dream of horses">talk page.</a> Thank you. 11:37, 20 January 2021 (UTC)<span data-mw-comment-end="c|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z|1"></span></small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z|1&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;I dream of horses&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd>
+<dd><small class="delsort-notice"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z|2"></span>Note:  This discussion has been included in the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Deletion_sorting/South_Africa" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/South Africa">list of South Africa-related deletion discussions</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:I_dream_of_horses" title="User:I dream of horses">I dream of horses</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/I_dream_of_horses" title="Special:Contributions/I dream of horses">(Contribs)</a> Please <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTIFY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTIFY">notify</a> me after replying off my <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:I_dream_of_horses" title="User talk:I dream of horses">talk page.</a> Thank you. 11:37, 20 January 2021 (UTC)<span data-mw-comment-end="c|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z|2"></span></small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z|2&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;I dream of horses&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd></dl>
+<ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Cupper52|2021-01-20T13:37:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z"></span>Keep</b> I have found a source. –<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cupper52" title="User:Cupper52"><span style="color:#296"><b>Cupper</b></span><span style="Color:#1346"><b>52</b></span></a><sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cupper52" title="User talk:Cupper52"><span style="color:LIGHTGREEN;"><b>Discuss!</b></span></a></sup> 13:37, 20 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Cupper52|2021-01-20T13:37:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-20T13:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Cupper52&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Cupper52|2021-01-20T13:37:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Adamant1|2021-01-24T23:33:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z"></span>Can you provide the source so it can be added to the article? --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Adamant1" title="User:Adamant1">Adamant1</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Adamant1" title="User talk:Adamant1">talk</a>) 23:33, 24 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Adamant1|2021-01-24T23:33:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-24T23:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Adamant1&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Adamant1|2021-01-24T23:33:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redoryxx|2021-01-22T01:51:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z"></span>Delete</b> Agreed that this article is lacking sourcing. The source provided does not meet <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a> and doesn't show notability. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Redoryxx&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Redoryxx (page does not exist)">Redoryxx</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redoryxx" title="User talk:Redoryxx">talk</a>) 01:51, 22 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redoryxx|2021-01-22T01:51:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-22T01:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redoryxx&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redoryxx|2021-01-22T01:51:00.000Z|I dream of horses|2021-01-20T11:37:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
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-<small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TheSandDoctor" title="User:TheSandDoctor"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">The</span><span style="color:#009933; font-weight:bold;">SandDoctor</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheSandDoctor" title="User talk:TheSandDoctor"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 03:23, 28 January 2021 (UTC)<span data-mw-comment-end="c|TheSandDoctor|2021-01-28T03:23:00.000Z|Equal_Education"></span></small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|TheSandDoctor|2021-01-28T03:23:00.000Z|Equal_Education&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Walter G\u00f6rlitz|2021-01-28T03:36:00.000Z|TheSandDoctor|2021-01-28T03:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Yonibass|2021-02-02T11:48:00.000Z|TheSandDoctor|2021-01-28T03:23:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-28T03:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;TheSandDoctor&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></div>
-<ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Walter Görlitz|2021-01-28T03:36:00.000Z|TheSandDoctor|2021-01-28T03:23:00.000Z"></span>Keep</b> I ran a quick Google search on "Equal Education" "Cape Town"  -wikipedia and stopped after I reached the second page having found significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject ten times: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.groundup.org.za/article/we-want-eastern-cape-education-department-fix-our-schools-demands-learners/">https://www.groundup.org.za/article/we-want-eastern-cape-education-department-fix-our-schools-demands-learners/</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://ewn.co.za/2020/08/06/equal-education-disappointed-by-substance-of-dbe-s-school-nutrition-scheme">https://ewn.co.za/2020/08/06/equal-education-disappointed-by-substance-of-dbe-s-school-nutrition-scheme</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.iol.co.za/capeargus/news/budget-cuts-will-worsen-school-overcrowding-in-western-cape-says-equal-education-43678863">https://www.iol.co.za/capeargus/news/budget-cuts-will-worsen-school-overcrowding-in-western-cape-says-equal-education-43678863</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://ewn.co.za/2020/06/12/equal-education-goes-to-court-saying-dbe-backtracked-on-schools-feeding-scheme">https://ewn.co.za/2020/06/12/equal-education-goes-to-court-saying-dbe-backtracked-on-schools-feeding-scheme</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2020-07-17-court-order-the-department-of-basic-education-to-urgently-feed-9-million-hungry-children/">https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2020-07-17-court-order-the-department-of-basic-education-to-urgently-feed-9-million-hungry-children/</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2020-07-17-court-order-the-department-of-basic-education-to-urgently-feed-9-million-hungry-children/">https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2020-07-17-court-order-the-department-of-basic-education-to-urgently-feed-9-million-hungry-children/</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.thesouthafrican.com/news/equal-education-wants-answers-from-dbe-over-school-nutrition/">https://www.thesouthafrican.com/news/equal-education-wants-answers-from-dbe-over-school-nutrition/</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/south-africa/2020-07-23-pupils-demand-solid-classrooms-after-storm-destroys-prefabs/">https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/south-africa/2020-07-23-pupils-demand-solid-classrooms-after-storm-destroys-prefabs/</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.news24.com/news24/southafrica/news/equal-education-seeks-order-forcing-govt-to-ensure-all-qualifying-pupils-are-fed-through-scheme-20200702">https://www.news24.com/news24/southafrica/news/equal-education-seeks-order-forcing-govt-to-ensure-all-qualifying-pupils-are-fed-through-scheme-20200702</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.groundup.org.za/article/its-fair-to-conclude-that-we-do-not-have-what-is-called-a-school-says-principal/">https://www.groundup.org.za/article/its-fair-to-conclude-that-we-do-not-have-what-is-called-a-school-says-principal/</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Walter_G%C3%B6rlitz" title="User:Walter Görlitz">Walter Görlitz</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Walter_G%C3%B6rlitz" title="User talk:Walter Görlitz">talk</a>) 03:36, 28 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Walter G\u00f6rlitz|2021-01-28T03:36:00.000Z|TheSandDoctor|2021-01-28T03:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-28T03:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Walter G\u00f6rlitz&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Walter Görlitz|2021-01-28T03:36:00.000Z|TheSandDoctor|2021-01-28T03:23:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Yonibass|2021-02-02T11:48:00.000Z|TheSandDoctor|2021-01-28T03:23:00.000Z"></span>Keep</b> hi i created this page initially but its been updated over the years. This is a legitimate organisation operating in South Africa. This page should not be deleted but just improved. Most of the text that was there prior to removal can be referenced (and the tone corrected) as you can see by the multiple links posted by others above. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Yonibass&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Yonibass (page does not exist)">Yonibass</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Yonibass" title="User talk:Yonibass">talk</a>) 11:48, 2 February 2021 (UTC).<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Yonibass|2021-02-02T11:48:00.000Z|TheSandDoctor|2021-01-28T03:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-02-02T11:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Yonibass&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Yonibass|2021-02-02T11:48:00.000Z|TheSandDoctor|2021-01-28T03:23:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TheSandDoctor" title="User:TheSandDoctor"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">The</span><span style="color:#009933; font-weight:bold;">SandDoctor</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheSandDoctor" title="User talk:TheSandDoctor"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 03:23, 28 January 2021 (UTC)<span data-mw-comment-end="c|TheSandDoctor|2021-01-28T03:23:00.000Z|Equal_Education"></span></small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|TheSandDoctor|2021-01-28T03:23:00.000Z|Equal_Education&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Walter G\u00f6rlitz|2021-01-28T03:36:00.000Z|TheSandDoctor|2021-01-28T03:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Yonibass|2021-02-02T11:48:00.000Z|TheSandDoctor|2021-01-28T03:23:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-28T03:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;TheSandDoctor&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></div>
+<ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Walter Görlitz|2021-01-28T03:36:00.000Z|TheSandDoctor|2021-01-28T03:23:00.000Z"></span>Keep</b> I ran a quick Google search on "Equal Education" "Cape Town"  -wikipedia and stopped after I reached the second page having found significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject ten times: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.groundup.org.za/article/we-want-eastern-cape-education-department-fix-our-schools-demands-learners/">https://www.groundup.org.za/article/we-want-eastern-cape-education-department-fix-our-schools-demands-learners/</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://ewn.co.za/2020/08/06/equal-education-disappointed-by-substance-of-dbe-s-school-nutrition-scheme">https://ewn.co.za/2020/08/06/equal-education-disappointed-by-substance-of-dbe-s-school-nutrition-scheme</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.iol.co.za/capeargus/news/budget-cuts-will-worsen-school-overcrowding-in-western-cape-says-equal-education-43678863">https://www.iol.co.za/capeargus/news/budget-cuts-will-worsen-school-overcrowding-in-western-cape-says-equal-education-43678863</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://ewn.co.za/2020/06/12/equal-education-goes-to-court-saying-dbe-backtracked-on-schools-feeding-scheme">https://ewn.co.za/2020/06/12/equal-education-goes-to-court-saying-dbe-backtracked-on-schools-feeding-scheme</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2020-07-17-court-order-the-department-of-basic-education-to-urgently-feed-9-million-hungry-children/">https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2020-07-17-court-order-the-department-of-basic-education-to-urgently-feed-9-million-hungry-children/</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2020-07-17-court-order-the-department-of-basic-education-to-urgently-feed-9-million-hungry-children/">https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2020-07-17-court-order-the-department-of-basic-education-to-urgently-feed-9-million-hungry-children/</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.thesouthafrican.com/news/equal-education-wants-answers-from-dbe-over-school-nutrition/">https://www.thesouthafrican.com/news/equal-education-wants-answers-from-dbe-over-school-nutrition/</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/south-africa/2020-07-23-pupils-demand-solid-classrooms-after-storm-destroys-prefabs/">https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/south-africa/2020-07-23-pupils-demand-solid-classrooms-after-storm-destroys-prefabs/</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.news24.com/news24/southafrica/news/equal-education-seeks-order-forcing-govt-to-ensure-all-qualifying-pupils-are-fed-through-scheme-20200702">https://www.news24.com/news24/southafrica/news/equal-education-seeks-order-forcing-govt-to-ensure-all-qualifying-pupils-are-fed-through-scheme-20200702</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.groundup.org.za/article/its-fair-to-conclude-that-we-do-not-have-what-is-called-a-school-says-principal/">https://www.groundup.org.za/article/its-fair-to-conclude-that-we-do-not-have-what-is-called-a-school-says-principal/</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Walter_G%C3%B6rlitz" title="User:Walter Görlitz">Walter Görlitz</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Walter_G%C3%B6rlitz" title="User talk:Walter Görlitz">talk</a>) 03:36, 28 January 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Walter G\u00f6rlitz|2021-01-28T03:36:00.000Z|TheSandDoctor|2021-01-28T03:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-01-28T03:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Walter G\u00f6rlitz&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Walter Görlitz|2021-01-28T03:36:00.000Z|TheSandDoctor|2021-01-28T03:23:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Yonibass|2021-02-02T11:48:00.000Z|TheSandDoctor|2021-01-28T03:23:00.000Z"></span>Keep</b> hi i created this page initially but its been updated over the years. This is a legitimate organisation operating in South Africa. This page should not be deleted but just improved. Most of the text that was there prior to removal can be referenced (and the tone corrected) as you can see by the multiple links posted by others above. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Yonibass&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Yonibass (page does not exist)">Yonibass</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Yonibass" title="User talk:Yonibass">talk</a>) 11:48, 2 February 2021 (UTC).<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Yonibass|2021-02-02T11:48:00.000Z|TheSandDoctor|2021-01-28T03:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-02-02T11:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Yonibass&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Yonibass|2021-02-02T11:48:00.000Z|TheSandDoctor|2021-01-28T03:23:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
 <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"><span style="color: #FF6600;"><b><span style="font-size:91%;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_process#Relisting_discussions" title="Wikipedia:Deletion process"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Expertwikiguy|2021-02-05T10:38:00.000Z|Equal_Education"></span>Relisted</a> to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.</span></b></span><br/><b>Relisting comment:</b> 3 keep, 2 Delete (including nominator), close call. Relisting to get better consensus. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Expertwikiguy" title="User:Expertwikiguy">Expertwikiguy</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Expertwikiguy" title="User talk:Expertwikiguy">talk</a>) 10:38, 5 February 2021 (UTC)<br/>
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-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DGG|2021-02-07T10:32:00.000Z|Expertwikiguy|2021-02-05T10:38:00.000Z"></span>Draftify (or re-draftify_ for rewriting. The verfsion that should be judged for potential is <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Equal_Education&amp;oldid=980847527">[1]</a> , before 90% of the content had been removed as promotional  -- it was promotional , but it needs shortening and rewriting, not removal.But there's no version which is really satisfactory for mainspace. <b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DGG" title="User:DGG"> DGG</a></b> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG" title="User talk:DGG"> talk </a>) 10:32, 7 February 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DGG|2021-02-07T10:32:00.000Z|Expertwikiguy|2021-02-05T10:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-02-07T10:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DGG&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DGG|2021-02-07T10:32:00.000Z|Expertwikiguy|2021-02-05T10:38:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Adamant1|2021-02-07T22:43:00.000Z|Expertwikiguy|2021-02-05T10:38:00.000Z"></span>Draftify</b> As I agree with DGG about the current state of things. Perhaps we can get the delete voter to go with draftify also. Since it seems like a reasonable option. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Adamant1" title="User:Adamant1">Adamant1</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Adamant1" title="User talk:Adamant1">talk</a>) 22:43, 7 February 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Adamant1|2021-02-07T22:43:00.000Z|Expertwikiguy|2021-02-05T10:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-02-07T22:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Adamant1&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Adamant1|2021-02-07T22:43:00.000Z|Expertwikiguy|2021-02-05T10:38:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
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+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DGG|2021-02-07T10:32:00.000Z|Expertwikiguy|2021-02-05T10:38:00.000Z"></span>Draftify (or re-draftify_ for rewriting. The verfsion that should be judged for potential is <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Equal_Education&amp;oldid=980847527">[1]</a> , before 90% of the content had been removed as promotional  -- it was promotional , but it needs shortening and rewriting, not removal.But there's no version which is really satisfactory for mainspace. <b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DGG" title="User:DGG"> DGG</a></b> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG" title="User talk:DGG"> talk </a>) 10:32, 7 February 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DGG|2021-02-07T10:32:00.000Z|Expertwikiguy|2021-02-05T10:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-02-07T10:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DGG&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DGG|2021-02-07T10:32:00.000Z|Expertwikiguy|2021-02-05T10:38:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Adamant1|2021-02-07T22:43:00.000Z|Expertwikiguy|2021-02-05T10:38:00.000Z"></span>Draftify</b> As I agree with DGG about the current state of things. Perhaps we can get the delete voter to go with draftify also. Since it seems like a reasonable option. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Adamant1" title="User:Adamant1">Adamant1</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Adamant1" title="User talk:Adamant1">talk</a>) 22:43, 7 February 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Adamant1|2021-02-07T22:43:00.000Z|Expertwikiguy|2021-02-05T10:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-02-07T22:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Adamant1&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Adamant1|2021-02-07T22:43:00.000Z|Expertwikiguy|2021-02-05T10:38:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
 <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"><span style="color: #FF6600;"><b><span style="font-size:91%;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_process#Relisting_discussions" title="Wikipedia:Deletion process"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Barkeep49|2021-02-16T21:40:00.000Z|Equal_Education"></span>Relisted</a> to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.</span></b></span><br/><b>Relisting comment:</b> Given the late suggesting of DRAFTIFY, relisting for a third time to see if there can be more consensus for that option or for some other outcome (delete or keep both having received support).<br/>
-<small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Barkeep49" title="User:Barkeep49">Barkeep49</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Barkeep49" title="User talk:Barkeep49">talk</a>) 21:40, 16 February 2021 (UTC)<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Barkeep49|2021-02-16T21:40:00.000Z|Equal_Education"></span></small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Barkeep49|2021-02-16T21:40:00.000Z|Equal_Education&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Star Mississippi|2021-02-16T21:55:00.000Z|Barkeep49|2021-02-16T21:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Cunard|2021-02-21T01:12:00.000Z|Barkeep49|2021-02-16T21:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|ScottishFinnishRadish|2021-02-26T14:30:00.000Z|Barkeep49|2021-02-16T21:40:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-02-16T21:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Barkeep49&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></div>
-<ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Star Mississippi|2021-02-16T21:55:00.000Z|Barkeep49|2021-02-16T21:40:00.000Z"></span>Draftify</b> per DGG. The topic is notable, but the content needs some workshopping.       <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Star_Mississippi" title="User talk:Star Mississippi"><b style="font-family: Verdana; color: #6633FF;">StarM</b></a> 21:55, 16 February 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Star Mississippi|2021-02-16T21:55:00.000Z|Barkeep49|2021-02-16T21:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-02-16T21:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Star Mississippi&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Star Mississippi|2021-02-16T21:55:00.000Z|Barkeep49|2021-02-16T21:40:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
-<ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Cunard|2021-02-21T01:12:00.000Z|Barkeep49|2021-02-16T21:40:00.000Z"></span>Keep</b> The subject passes <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability#General_notability_guideline" title="Wikipedia:Notability">Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(organizations_and_companies)#Primary_criteria" title="Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)">Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Primary criteria</a> through the sources found by Walter Görlitz. Per <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Editing_policy#Wikipedia_is_a_work_in_progress:_perfection_is_not_required" title="Wikipedia:Editing policy">Wikipedia:Editing policy#Wikipedia is a work in progress: perfection is not required</a>, "Collaborative editing means that incomplete or poorly written first drafts can evolve over time into excellent articles. Even poor articles, if they can be improved, are welcome." The article has promotional wording but it is not sufficiently promotional that it should be deleted from mainspace. <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Equal_Education&amp;oldid=378533564">The initial 13:12, 12 August 2010 (UTC) version of the article</a> is not promotional and can be reverted to if the current version of the article is deemed to be too promotional. I prefer that the article be improved while it is in mainspace instead of being moved to draftspace where if unedited for six months, it would be deleted under <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:G13" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:G13">Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#G13. Abandoned Drafts and Articles for creation submissions</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Cunard&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Cunard (page does not exist)">Cunard</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cunard" title="User talk:Cunard">talk</a>) 01:12, 21 February 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Cunard|2021-02-21T01:12:00.000Z|Barkeep49|2021-02-16T21:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-02-21T01:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Cunard&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Cunard|2021-02-21T01:12:00.000Z|Barkeep49|2021-02-16T21:40:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
-<ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|ScottishFinnishRadish|2021-02-26T14:30:00.000Z|Barkeep49|2021-02-16T21:40:00.000Z"></span>Keep</b> or Draftify as second choice. There are enough sources to establish notability, but the article does need work. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:ScottishFinnishRadish&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:ScottishFinnishRadish (page does not exist)">ScottishFinnishRadish</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish">talk</a>) 14:30, 26 February 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ScottishFinnishRadish|2021-02-26T14:30:00.000Z|Barkeep49|2021-02-16T21:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-02-26T14:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ScottishFinnishRadish&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ScottishFinnishRadish|2021-02-26T14:30:00.000Z|Barkeep49|2021-02-16T21:40:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Barkeep49" title="User:Barkeep49">Barkeep49</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Barkeep49" title="User talk:Barkeep49">talk</a>) 21:40, 16 February 2021 (UTC)<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Barkeep49|2021-02-16T21:40:00.000Z|Equal_Education"></span></small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Barkeep49|2021-02-16T21:40:00.000Z|Equal_Education&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Star Mississippi|2021-02-16T21:55:00.000Z|Barkeep49|2021-02-16T21:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Cunard|2021-02-21T01:12:00.000Z|Barkeep49|2021-02-16T21:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|ScottishFinnishRadish|2021-02-26T14:30:00.000Z|Barkeep49|2021-02-16T21:40:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-02-16T21:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Barkeep49&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></div>
+<ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Star Mississippi|2021-02-16T21:55:00.000Z|Barkeep49|2021-02-16T21:40:00.000Z"></span>Draftify</b> per DGG. The topic is notable, but the content needs some workshopping.       <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Star_Mississippi" title="User talk:Star Mississippi"><b style="font-family: Verdana; color: #6633FF;">StarM</b></a> 21:55, 16 February 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Star Mississippi|2021-02-16T21:55:00.000Z|Barkeep49|2021-02-16T21:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-02-16T21:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Star Mississippi&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Star Mississippi|2021-02-16T21:55:00.000Z|Barkeep49|2021-02-16T21:40:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Cunard|2021-02-21T01:12:00.000Z|Barkeep49|2021-02-16T21:40:00.000Z"></span>Keep</b> The subject passes <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability#General_notability_guideline" title="Wikipedia:Notability">Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(organizations_and_companies)#Primary_criteria" title="Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)">Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Primary criteria</a> through the sources found by Walter Görlitz. Per <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Editing_policy#Wikipedia_is_a_work_in_progress:_perfection_is_not_required" title="Wikipedia:Editing policy">Wikipedia:Editing policy#Wikipedia is a work in progress: perfection is not required</a>, "Collaborative editing means that incomplete or poorly written first drafts can evolve over time into excellent articles. Even poor articles, if they can be improved, are welcome." The article has promotional wording but it is not sufficiently promotional that it should be deleted from mainspace. <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Equal_Education&amp;oldid=378533564">The initial 13:12, 12 August 2010 (UTC) version of the article</a> is not promotional and can be reverted to if the current version of the article is deemed to be too promotional. I prefer that the article be improved while it is in mainspace instead of being moved to draftspace where if unedited for six months, it would be deleted under <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:G13" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:G13">Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#G13. Abandoned Drafts and Articles for creation submissions</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Cunard&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Cunard (page does not exist)">Cunard</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cunard" title="User talk:Cunard">talk</a>) 01:12, 21 February 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Cunard|2021-02-21T01:12:00.000Z|Barkeep49|2021-02-16T21:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-02-21T01:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Cunard&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Cunard|2021-02-21T01:12:00.000Z|Barkeep49|2021-02-16T21:40:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|ScottishFinnishRadish|2021-02-26T14:30:00.000Z|Barkeep49|2021-02-16T21:40:00.000Z"></span>Keep</b> or Draftify as second choice. There are enough sources to establish notability, but the article does need work. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:ScottishFinnishRadish&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:ScottishFinnishRadish (page does not exist)">ScottishFinnishRadish</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish">talk</a>) 14:30, 26 February 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ScottishFinnishRadish|2021-02-26T14:30:00.000Z|Barkeep49|2021-02-16T21:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-02-26T14:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ScottishFinnishRadish&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ScottishFinnishRadish|2021-02-26T14:30:00.000Z|Barkeep49|2021-02-16T21:40:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Interstellarity|2019-06-21T10:08:00.000Z|Pending_changes"></span>I would like to use <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Joshua_Scott/Scripts/pendingchanges.js" title="User:Joshua Scott/Scripts/pendingchanges.js">this script</a> when reviewing pending changes. However, when I see the pending changes, it only shows the diff, not the article with the changes implemented. Can an editor edit the my script so that it shows both the diff and article with the changes implemented? I don't know how to do it myself so I am asking for help. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Interstellarity" title="User:Interstellarity"><span style="background:black;color:white;font-family:arial"><i><b>Interstellarity</b></i></span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Interstellarity" title="User talk:Interstellarity"><b>T</b></a> 🌟 10:08, 21 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Interstellarity|2019-06-21T10:08:00.000Z|Pending_changes&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|QEDK|2019-06-21T19:42:00.000Z|Interstellarity|2019-06-21T10:08:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-21T10:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Interstellarity&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Interstellarity|2019-06-21T10:08:00.000Z|Pending_changes"></span>I would like to use <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Joshua_Scott/Scripts/pendingchanges.js" title="User:Joshua Scott/Scripts/pendingchanges.js">this script</a> when reviewing pending changes. However, when I see the pending changes, it only shows the diff, not the article with the changes implemented. Can an editor edit the my script so that it shows both the diff and article with the changes implemented? I don't know how to do it myself so I am asking for help. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Interstellarity" title="User:Interstellarity"><span style="background:black;color:white;font-family:arial"><i><b>Interstellarity</b></i></span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Interstellarity" title="User talk:Interstellarity"><b>T</b></a> 🌟 10:08, 21 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Interstellarity|2019-06-21T10:08:00.000Z|Pending_changes&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|QEDK|2019-06-21T19:42:00.000Z|Interstellarity|2019-06-21T10:08:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-21T10:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Interstellarity&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-06-21T19:42:00.000Z|Interstellarity|2019-06-21T10:08:00.000Z"></span>Not me, but <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DannyS712" title="User:DannyS712">DannyS712</a> can. <abbr title="Smiling face" style="border-bottom: none;"><img alt="Face-smile.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/18px-Face-smile.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/27px-Face-smile.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/36px-Face-smile.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></abbr> --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 19:42, 21 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-06-21T19:42:00.000Z|Interstellarity|2019-06-21T10:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Interstellarity|2019-06-24T20:09:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-21T19:42:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-21T19:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-06-21T19:42:00.000Z|Interstellarity|2019-06-21T10:08:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Interstellarity|2019-06-24T20:09:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-21T19:42:00.000Z"></span>QEDK</a>, Can you find someone else that can do it if DannyS712 can't do it? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Interstellarity" title="User:Interstellarity"><span style="background:black;color:white;font-family:arial"><i><b>Interstellarity</b></i></span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Interstellarity" title="User talk:Interstellarity"><b>T</b></a> 🌟 20:09, 24 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Interstellarity|2019-06-24T20:09:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-21T19:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|CAPTAIN MEDUSA|2019-06-30T13:14:00.000Z|Interstellarity|2019-06-24T20:09:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-24T20:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Interstellarity&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Interstellarity" title="User:Interstellarity"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|CAPTAIN MEDUSA|2019-06-30T13:14:00.000Z|Interstellarity|2019-06-24T20:09:00.000Z"></span>Interstellarity</a>, Hi there i have fixed that issue. ___<i><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CAPTAIN_MEDUSA" title="User:CAPTAIN MEDUSA"><em style="font-family:grafolitascript;color:#aa6ef4">CAPTAIN MEDUSA</em></a><small><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:CAPTAIN_MEDUSA" title="User talk:CAPTAIN MEDUSA"><b><em style="font-family:grafolitascript;color:#000000">talk</em></b></a></small></i> 13:14, 30 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|CAPTAIN MEDUSA|2019-06-30T13:14:00.000Z|Interstellarity|2019-06-24T20:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-30T13:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;CAPTAIN MEDUSA&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|CAPTAIN MEDUSA|2019-06-30T13:14:00.000Z|Interstellarity|2019-06-24T20:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Interstellarity|2019-06-24T20:09:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-21T19:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-06-21T19:42:00.000Z|Interstellarity|2019-06-21T10:08:00.000Z"></span>Not me, but <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DannyS712" title="User:DannyS712">DannyS712</a> can. <abbr title="Smiling face" style="border-bottom: none;"><img alt="Face-smile.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/18px-Face-smile.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/27px-Face-smile.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/36px-Face-smile.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></abbr> --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 19:42, 21 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-06-21T19:42:00.000Z|Interstellarity|2019-06-21T10:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Interstellarity|2019-06-24T20:09:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-21T19:42:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-21T19:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-06-21T19:42:00.000Z|Interstellarity|2019-06-21T10:08:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Interstellarity|2019-06-24T20:09:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-21T19:42:00.000Z"></span>QEDK</a>, Can you find someone else that can do it if DannyS712 can't do it? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Interstellarity" title="User:Interstellarity"><span style="background:black;color:white;font-family:arial"><i><b>Interstellarity</b></i></span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Interstellarity" title="User talk:Interstellarity"><b>T</b></a> 🌟 20:09, 24 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Interstellarity|2019-06-24T20:09:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-21T19:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|CAPTAIN MEDUSA|2019-06-30T13:14:00.000Z|Interstellarity|2019-06-24T20:09:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-24T20:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Interstellarity&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Interstellarity" title="User:Interstellarity"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|CAPTAIN MEDUSA|2019-06-30T13:14:00.000Z|Interstellarity|2019-06-24T20:09:00.000Z"></span>Interstellarity</a>, Hi there i have fixed that issue. ___<i><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CAPTAIN_MEDUSA" title="User:CAPTAIN MEDUSA"><em style="font-family:grafolitascript;color:#aa6ef4">CAPTAIN MEDUSA</em></a><small><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:CAPTAIN_MEDUSA" title="User talk:CAPTAIN MEDUSA"><b><em style="font-family:grafolitascript;color:#000000">talk</em></b></a></small></i> 13:14, 30 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|CAPTAIN MEDUSA|2019-06-30T13:14:00.000Z|Interstellarity|2019-06-24T20:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-30T13:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;CAPTAIN MEDUSA&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|CAPTAIN MEDUSA|2019-06-30T13:14:00.000Z|Interstellarity|2019-06-24T20:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Interstellarity|2019-06-24T20:09:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-21T19:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Posting_issues" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Posting_issues|2019-06-24T16:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Otr500|2019-06-24T16:09:00.000Z|Posting_issues&quot;,&quot;c|Otr500|2019-06-24T16:12:00.000Z|Posting_issues&quot;,&quot;c|Otr500|2019-06-28T18:09:00.000Z|Posting_issues&quot;,&quot;c|Otr500|2019-06-29T12:19:00.000Z|Posting_issues&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Posting_issues|2019-06-24T16:09:00.000Z"></span>Posting issues<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Posting_issues|2019-06-24T16:09:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Otr500|2019-06-24T16:09:00.000Z|Posting_issues"></span>I have just recently been having an issue: When I hit the preview button to check my edits then hit the publish button I get an edit conflict. When this first happened I treated it as such and it posted twice. After that I have reloaded and see it is already posted by only hitting the preview button. I have never had this issue, that was not a legitimate edit conflict, so am at a lose.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Otr500" title="User:Otr500">Otr500</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Otr500" title="User talk:Otr500">talk</a>) 16:09, 24 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Otr500|2019-06-24T16:09:00.000Z|Posting_issues&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-24T16:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Otr500&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Otr500|2019-06-24T16:09:00.000Z|Posting_issues"></span></dd>
-<dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Otr500|2019-06-24T16:12:00.000Z|Posting_issues"></span>Note</i>: This has happened 4 times but when I previewed this edit then hit "publish changes" it worked fine. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Otr500" title="User:Otr500">Otr500</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Otr500" title="User talk:Otr500">talk</a>) 16:12, 24 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Otr500|2019-06-24T16:12:00.000Z|Posting_issues&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-24T16:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Otr500&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Otr500|2019-06-24T16:12:00.000Z|Posting_issues"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Otr500|2019-06-28T18:09:00.000Z|Posting_issues"></span>Apparently this is an issue only I am having but it is still ongoing.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Otr500" title="User:Otr500">Otr500</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Otr500" title="User talk:Otr500">talk</a>) 18:09, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Otr500|2019-06-28T18:09:00.000Z|Posting_issues&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Galobtter|2019-06-28T18:24:00.000Z|Otr500|2019-06-28T18:09:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T18:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Otr500&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Otr500|2019-06-28T18:09:00.000Z|Posting_issues"></span>
-<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Incorrect_Edit_Conflicts" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Galobtter|2019-06-28T18:24:00.000Z|Otr500|2019-06-28T18:09:00.000Z"></span>Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Incorrect_Edit_Conflicts</a> related? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Galobtter" title="User:Galobtter">Galobtter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Galobtter" title="User talk:Galobtter">pingó mió</a>) 18:24, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Galobtter|2019-06-28T18:24:00.000Z|Otr500|2019-06-28T18:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T18:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Galobtter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Galobtter|2019-06-28T18:24:00.000Z|Otr500|2019-06-28T18:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Otr500|2019-06-29T12:19:00.000Z|Posting_issues"></span>Very possible. Also whatever the issue is (I will have to look) it might be related to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Block_conflict" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)">Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Block conflict</a> that may just be another area where the edit conflict is occurring.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Otr500" title="User:Otr500">Otr500</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Otr500" title="User talk:Otr500">talk</a>) 12:19, 29 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Otr500|2019-06-29T12:19:00.000Z|Posting_issues&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Doug Weller|2019-06-30T19:55:00.000Z|Otr500|2019-06-29T12:19:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-29T12:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Otr500&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Otr500|2019-06-29T12:19:00.000Z|Posting_issues"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Doug Weller|2019-06-30T19:55:00.000Z|Otr500|2019-06-29T12:19:00.000Z"></span>I'm getting inexplicable edit conflicts today. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Doug_Weller" title="User:Doug Weller"><span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller" title="User talk:Doug Weller">talk</a> 19:55, 30 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Doug Weller|2019-06-30T19:55:00.000Z|Otr500|2019-06-29T12:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Doug Weller|2019-06-30T19:56:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-06-30T19:55:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-30T19:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Doug Weller&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Doug Weller|2019-06-30T19:55:00.000Z|Otr500|2019-06-29T12:19:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Doug Weller|2019-06-30T19:56:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-06-30T19:55:00.000Z"></span>And again when I tried to post the above. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Doug_Weller" title="User:Doug Weller"><span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller" title="User talk:Doug Weller">talk</a> 19:56, 30 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Doug Weller|2019-06-30T19:56:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-06-30T19:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Doug Weller|2019-06-30T19:57:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-06-30T19:56:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-30T19:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Doug Weller&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Doug Weller|2019-06-30T19:56:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-06-30T19:55:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Doug Weller|2019-06-30T19:57:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-06-30T19:56:00.000Z"></span>Again! Is it groundhog day? When this happens again I own't bother to mention it here. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Doug_Weller" title="User:Doug Weller"><span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller" title="User talk:Doug Weller">talk</a> 19:57, 30 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Doug Weller|2019-06-30T19:57:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-06-30T19:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-30T19:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Doug Weller&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Doug Weller|2019-06-30T19:57:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-06-30T19:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Otr500|2019-06-24T16:09:00.000Z|Posting_issues"></span>I have just recently been having an issue: When I hit the preview button to check my edits then hit the publish button I get an edit conflict. When this first happened I treated it as such and it posted twice. After that I have reloaded and see it is already posted by only hitting the preview button. I have never had this issue, that was not a legitimate edit conflict, so am at a lose.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Otr500" title="User:Otr500">Otr500</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Otr500" title="User talk:Otr500">talk</a>) 16:09, 24 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Otr500|2019-06-24T16:09:00.000Z|Posting_issues&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-24T16:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Otr500&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Otr500|2019-06-24T16:09:00.000Z|Posting_issues"></span></dd>
+<dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Otr500|2019-06-24T16:12:00.000Z|Posting_issues"></span>Note</i>: This has happened 4 times but when I previewed this edit then hit "publish changes" it worked fine. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Otr500" title="User:Otr500">Otr500</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Otr500" title="User talk:Otr500">talk</a>) 16:12, 24 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Otr500|2019-06-24T16:12:00.000Z|Posting_issues&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-24T16:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Otr500&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Otr500|2019-06-24T16:12:00.000Z|Posting_issues"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Otr500|2019-06-28T18:09:00.000Z|Posting_issues"></span>Apparently this is an issue only I am having but it is still ongoing.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Otr500" title="User:Otr500">Otr500</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Otr500" title="User talk:Otr500">talk</a>) 18:09, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Otr500|2019-06-28T18:09:00.000Z|Posting_issues&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Galobtter|2019-06-28T18:24:00.000Z|Otr500|2019-06-28T18:09:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T18:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Otr500&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Otr500|2019-06-28T18:09:00.000Z|Posting_issues"></span>
+<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Incorrect_Edit_Conflicts" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Galobtter|2019-06-28T18:24:00.000Z|Otr500|2019-06-28T18:09:00.000Z"></span>Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Incorrect_Edit_Conflicts</a> related? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Galobtter" title="User:Galobtter">Galobtter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Galobtter" title="User talk:Galobtter">pingó mió</a>) 18:24, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Galobtter|2019-06-28T18:24:00.000Z|Otr500|2019-06-28T18:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T18:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Galobtter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Galobtter|2019-06-28T18:24:00.000Z|Otr500|2019-06-28T18:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Otr500|2019-06-29T12:19:00.000Z|Posting_issues"></span>Very possible. Also whatever the issue is (I will have to look) it might be related to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Block_conflict" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)">Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Block conflict</a> that may just be another area where the edit conflict is occurring.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Otr500" title="User:Otr500">Otr500</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Otr500" title="User talk:Otr500">talk</a>) 12:19, 29 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Otr500|2019-06-29T12:19:00.000Z|Posting_issues&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Doug Weller|2019-06-30T19:55:00.000Z|Otr500|2019-06-29T12:19:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-29T12:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Otr500&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Otr500|2019-06-29T12:19:00.000Z|Posting_issues"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Doug Weller|2019-06-30T19:55:00.000Z|Otr500|2019-06-29T12:19:00.000Z"></span>I'm getting inexplicable edit conflicts today. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Doug_Weller" title="User:Doug Weller"><span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller" title="User talk:Doug Weller">talk</a> 19:55, 30 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Doug Weller|2019-06-30T19:55:00.000Z|Otr500|2019-06-29T12:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Doug Weller|2019-06-30T19:56:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-06-30T19:55:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-30T19:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Doug Weller&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Doug Weller|2019-06-30T19:55:00.000Z|Otr500|2019-06-29T12:19:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Doug Weller|2019-06-30T19:56:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-06-30T19:55:00.000Z"></span>And again when I tried to post the above. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Doug_Weller" title="User:Doug Weller"><span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller" title="User talk:Doug Weller">talk</a> 19:56, 30 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Doug Weller|2019-06-30T19:56:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-06-30T19:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Doug Weller|2019-06-30T19:57:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-06-30T19:56:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-30T19:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Doug Weller&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Doug Weller|2019-06-30T19:56:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-06-30T19:55:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Doug Weller|2019-06-30T19:57:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-06-30T19:56:00.000Z"></span>Again! Is it groundhog day? When this happens again I own't bother to mention it here. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Doug_Weller" title="User:Doug Weller"><span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller" title="User talk:Doug Weller">talk</a> 19:57, 30 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Doug Weller|2019-06-30T19:57:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-06-30T19:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-30T19:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Doug Weller&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Doug Weller|2019-06-30T19:57:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-06-30T19:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Searching_for_old_vandalization_in_a_file" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Searching_for_old_vandalization_in_a_file|2019-06-19T23:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Jotamar|2019-06-19T23:56:00.000Z|Searching_for_old_vandalization_in_a_file&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Searching_for_old_vandalization_in_a_file|2019-06-19T23:56:00.000Z"></span>Searching for old vandalization in a file<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Searching_for_old_vandalization_in_a_file|2019-06-19T23:56:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Jotamar|2019-06-19T23:56:00.000Z|Searching_for_old_vandalization_in_a_file"></span>I'd like to know if there is any bot or tool that can help me finding old vandalizing editions in a WP file history. Thanks. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jotamar" title="User:Jotamar">Jotamar</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jotamar" title="User talk:Jotamar">talk</a>) 23:56, 19 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Jotamar|2019-06-19T23:56:00.000Z|Searching_for_old_vandalization_in_a_file&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Jotamar|2019-06-26T19:01:00.000Z|Jotamar|2019-06-19T23:56:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-19T23:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Jotamar&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Jotamar|2019-06-19T23:56:00.000Z|Searching_for_old_vandalization_in_a_file"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Jotamar|2019-06-19T23:56:00.000Z|Searching_for_old_vandalization_in_a_file"></span>I'd like to know if there is any bot or tool that can help me finding old vandalizing editions in a WP file history. Thanks. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jotamar" title="User:Jotamar">Jotamar</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jotamar" title="User talk:Jotamar">talk</a>) 23:56, 19 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Jotamar|2019-06-19T23:56:00.000Z|Searching_for_old_vandalization_in_a_file&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Jotamar|2019-06-26T19:01:00.000Z|Jotamar|2019-06-19T23:56:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-19T23:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Jotamar&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Jotamar|2019-06-19T23:56:00.000Z|Searching_for_old_vandalization_in_a_file"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Jotamar|2019-06-26T19:01:00.000Z|Jotamar|2019-06-19T23:56:00.000Z"></span>When I said <i>WP files</i>, I meant <i>WP pages</i>. Can someone at least tell me, where should I ask my question? --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jotamar" title="User:Jotamar">Jotamar</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jotamar" title="User talk:Jotamar">talk</a>) 19:01, 26 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Jotamar|2019-06-26T19:01:00.000Z|Jotamar|2019-06-19T23:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Rich Farmbrough|2019-06-28T10:49:00.000Z|Jotamar|2019-06-26T19:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T19:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Jotamar&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Jotamar|2019-06-26T19:01:00.000Z|Jotamar|2019-06-19T23:56:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Jotamar|2019-06-26T19:01:00.000Z|Jotamar|2019-06-19T23:56:00.000Z"></span>When I said <i>WP files</i>, I meant <i>WP pages</i>. Can someone at least tell me, where should I ask my question? --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jotamar" title="User:Jotamar">Jotamar</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jotamar" title="User talk:Jotamar">talk</a>) 19:01, 26 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Jotamar|2019-06-26T19:01:00.000Z|Jotamar|2019-06-19T23:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Rich Farmbrough|2019-06-28T10:49:00.000Z|Jotamar|2019-06-26T19:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T19:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Jotamar&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Jotamar|2019-06-26T19:01:00.000Z|Jotamar|2019-06-19T23:56:00.000Z"></span>
 <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Rich Farmbrough|2019-06-28T10:49:00.000Z|Jotamar|2019-06-26T19:01:00.000Z"></span>Yes, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jotamar" title="User:Jotamar">Jotamar</a>, probably <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BOTREQ" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BOTREQ">WP:BOTREQ</a>, how many edits are you looking for?  There will be many millions.  Fist step might be to look for edits preceding those with an edit summary of "rvv".  Another good place to look is the edits prior to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ClueBot" title="User:ClueBot">User:ClueBot</a>'s edits.</dd>
-<dd>All the best: <i><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rich_Farmbrough" title="User:Rich Farmbrough">Rich</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rich_Farmbrough" title="User talk:Rich Farmbrough">Farmbrough</a></i>,<small> 10:49, 28 June 2019 (UTC).</small><br/><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Rich Farmbrough|2019-06-28T10:49:00.000Z|Jotamar|2019-06-26T19:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-06-28T11:09:00.000Z|Rich Farmbrough|2019-06-28T10:49:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T10:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Rich Farmbrough&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Rich Farmbrough|2019-06-28T10:49:00.000Z|Jotamar|2019-06-26T19:01:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-06-28T11:09:00.000Z|Rich Farmbrough|2019-06-28T10:49:00.000Z"></span>If you already know specific vandalized text in an article and want the edit which added it then click "Find addition/removal" at the top of the page history. It used <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiBlame" title="Wikipedia:WikiBlame">WikiBlame</a> until recently but the tool has problems and another is currently used. It's discussed at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Histlegend#Wikiblame_replacement" title="MediaWiki talk:Histlegend">MediaWiki talk:Histlegend#Wikiblame replacement</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 11:09, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-06-28T11:09:00.000Z|Rich Farmbrough|2019-06-28T10:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Jotamar|2019-07-01T13:48:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-06-28T11:09:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T11:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-06-28T11:09:00.000Z|Rich Farmbrough|2019-06-28T10:49:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Jotamar|2019-07-01T13:48:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-06-28T11:09:00.000Z"></span>What I have in mind is some sort of heuristic tool, capable of finding a short list of possible vandalazing editions that have not been reverted, in a group of pages, for instance, the pages under one category. In less popular, poorly maintained pages, it's not uncommon that such an edition can be easily reverted even after months or years, but first you have to find them, and that takes up a lot of time. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jotamar" title="User:Jotamar">Jotamar</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jotamar" title="User talk:Jotamar">talk</a>) 13:48, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Jotamar|2019-07-01T13:48:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-06-28T11:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T13:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Jotamar&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Jotamar|2019-07-01T13:48:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-06-28T11:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dd>All the best: <i><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rich_Farmbrough" title="User:Rich Farmbrough">Rich</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rich_Farmbrough" title="User talk:Rich Farmbrough">Farmbrough</a></i>,<small> 10:49, 28 June 2019 (UTC).</small><br/><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Rich Farmbrough|2019-06-28T10:49:00.000Z|Jotamar|2019-06-26T19:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-06-28T11:09:00.000Z|Rich Farmbrough|2019-06-28T10:49:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T10:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Rich Farmbrough&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Rich Farmbrough|2019-06-28T10:49:00.000Z|Jotamar|2019-06-26T19:01:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-06-28T11:09:00.000Z|Rich Farmbrough|2019-06-28T10:49:00.000Z"></span>If you already know specific vandalized text in an article and want the edit which added it then click "Find addition/removal" at the top of the page history. It used <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiBlame" title="Wikipedia:WikiBlame">WikiBlame</a> until recently but the tool has problems and another is currently used. It's discussed at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Histlegend#Wikiblame_replacement" title="MediaWiki talk:Histlegend">MediaWiki talk:Histlegend#Wikiblame replacement</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 11:09, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-06-28T11:09:00.000Z|Rich Farmbrough|2019-06-28T10:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Jotamar|2019-07-01T13:48:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-06-28T11:09:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T11:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-06-28T11:09:00.000Z|Rich Farmbrough|2019-06-28T10:49:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Jotamar|2019-07-01T13:48:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-06-28T11:09:00.000Z"></span>What I have in mind is some sort of heuristic tool, capable of finding a short list of possible vandalazing editions that have not been reverted, in a group of pages, for instance, the pages under one category. In less popular, poorly maintained pages, it's not uncommon that such an edition can be easily reverted even after months or years, but first you have to find them, and that takes up a lot of time. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jotamar" title="User:Jotamar">Jotamar</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jotamar" title="User talk:Jotamar">talk</a>) 13:48, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Jotamar|2019-07-01T13:48:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-06-28T11:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T13:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Jotamar&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Jotamar|2019-07-01T13:48:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-06-28T11:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="RefList_falling_in_the_wrong_place" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|RefList_falling_in_the_wrong_place|2019-07-01T14:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|LoreMariano|2019-07-01T14:02:00.000Z|RefList_falling_in_the_wrong_place&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|RefList_falling_in_the_wrong_place|2019-07-01T14:02:00.000Z"></span>RefList falling in the wrong place<span data-mw-comment-end="h|RefList_falling_in_the_wrong_place|2019-07-01T14:02:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|LoreMariano|2019-07-01T14:02:00.000Z|RefList_falling_in_the_wrong_place"></span>I need help getting a reflist to fall at the bottom of the article.  It is falling between 2 tables. 
 [<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:LoreMariano/sandbox">[1]</a>]
 </p><p>I would like to understand why this happening so I can fix it myself in the future.
-</p><p>Thank you.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:LoreMariano" title="User:LoreMariano">Lore E. Mariano</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:LoreMariano" title="User talk:LoreMariano">talk</a>) 14:02, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|LoreMariano|2019-07-01T14:02:00.000Z|RefList_falling_in_the_wrong_place&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-01T14:10:00.000Z|LoreMariano|2019-07-01T14:02:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T14:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;LoreMariano&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|LoreMariano|2019-07-01T14:02:00.000Z|RefList_falling_in_the_wrong_place"></span>
+</p><p>Thank you.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:LoreMariano" title="User:LoreMariano">Lore E. Mariano</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:LoreMariano" title="User talk:LoreMariano">talk</a>) 14:02, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|LoreMariano|2019-07-01T14:02:00.000Z|RefList_falling_in_the_wrong_place&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-01T14:10:00.000Z|LoreMariano|2019-07-01T14:02:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T14:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;LoreMariano&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|LoreMariano|2019-07-01T14:02:00.000Z|RefList_falling_in_the_wrong_place"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-01T14:10:00.000Z|LoreMariano|2019-07-01T14:02:00.000Z"></span>Fixed by <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:LoreMariano/sandbox&amp;diff=904338619&amp;oldid=904337499">[2]</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 14:10, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-01T14:10:00.000Z|LoreMariano|2019-07-01T14:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|LoreMariano|2019-07-01T14:40:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-01T14:10:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T14:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-01T14:10:00.000Z|LoreMariano|2019-07-01T14:02:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|LoreMariano|2019-07-01T14:40:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-01T14:10:00.000Z"></span>Thank you so much! <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:LoreMariano" title="User:LoreMariano">Lore E. Mariano</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:LoreMariano" title="User talk:LoreMariano">talk</a>) 14:40, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|LoreMariano|2019-07-01T14:40:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-01T14:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T14:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;LoreMariano&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|LoreMariano|2019-07-01T14:40:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-01T14:10:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-01T14:10:00.000Z|LoreMariano|2019-07-01T14:02:00.000Z"></span>Fixed by <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:LoreMariano/sandbox&amp;diff=904338619&amp;oldid=904337499">[2]</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 14:10, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-01T14:10:00.000Z|LoreMariano|2019-07-01T14:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|LoreMariano|2019-07-01T14:40:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-01T14:10:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T14:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-01T14:10:00.000Z|LoreMariano|2019-07-01T14:02:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|LoreMariano|2019-07-01T14:40:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-01T14:10:00.000Z"></span>Thank you so much! <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:LoreMariano" title="User:LoreMariano">Lore E. Mariano</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:LoreMariano" title="User talk:LoreMariano">talk</a>) 14:40, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|LoreMariano|2019-07-01T14:40:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-01T14:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T14:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;LoreMariano&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|LoreMariano|2019-07-01T14:40:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-01T14:10:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Cite_error_created_by_bot." data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Cite_error_created_by_bot.|2019-07-01T17:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|User-duck|2019-07-01T17:39:00.000Z|Cite_error_created_by_bot.&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Cite_error_created_by_bot.|2019-07-01T17:39:00.000Z"></span>Cite error created by bot.<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Cite_error_created_by_bot.|2019-07-01T17:39:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|User-duck|2019-07-01T17:39:00.000Z|Cite_error_created_by_bot."></span>Apparently there is a new bot creating cite errors.
 Article: WZ-551
 Tag: Rescuing 14 sources and tagging 0 as dead. #IABot (v2.0beta15)
-</p><p>Is there a review process for new bots/tools? I have encountered many repeated errors that I assume are created by them. e.g. "coauthors=", "DUPLICATE_date". <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:User-duck" title="User:User-duck">User-duck</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:User-duck" title="User talk:User-duck">talk</a>) 17:39, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|User-duck|2019-07-01T17:39:00.000Z|Cite_error_created_by_bot.&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Trappist the monk|2019-07-01T17:56:00.000Z|User-duck|2019-07-01T17:39:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T17:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;User-duck&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|User-duck|2019-07-01T17:39:00.000Z|Cite_error_created_by_bot."></span>
+</p><p>Is there a review process for new bots/tools? I have encountered many repeated errors that I assume are created by them. e.g. "coauthors=", "DUPLICATE_date". <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:User-duck" title="User:User-duck">User-duck</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:User-duck" title="User talk:User-duck">talk</a>) 17:39, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|User-duck|2019-07-01T17:39:00.000Z|Cite_error_created_by_bot.&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Trappist the monk|2019-07-01T17:56:00.000Z|User-duck|2019-07-01T17:39:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T17:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;User-duck&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|User-duck|2019-07-01T17:39:00.000Z|Cite_error_created_by_bot."></span>
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 <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Trappist the monk|2019-07-01T17:56:00.000Z|User-duck|2019-07-01T17:39:00.000Z"></span>Communication failure between the bot owner and the community at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:CS1" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:CS1">WT:CS1</a>.  I fixed the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WZ-551" title="WZ-551">WZ-551</a> page that <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gog_the_Mild" title="User:Gog the Mild">Gog the Mild</a> edited and will leave it to that editor to similarly repair any other error caused by the tool.</dd>
-<dd>—<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk" title="User talk:Trappist the monk">talk</a>) 17:56, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Trappist the monk|2019-07-01T17:56:00.000Z|User-duck|2019-07-01T17:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|GreenC|2019-07-01T19:36:00.000Z|Trappist the monk|2019-07-01T17:56:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T17:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Trappist the monk&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Trappist the monk|2019-07-01T17:56:00.000Z|User-duck|2019-07-01T17:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|GreenC|2019-07-01T19:36:00.000Z|Trappist the monk|2019-07-01T17:56:00.000Z"></span>This is IABot via Oauth request by Gog the Mild. It was due to some miscommunications, my fault, iabot has been patched/rebooted and will look into fixing the errors added onwiki. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GreenC" title="User:GreenC"><span style="color: #006A4E;"><b>Green</b></span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC" title="User talk:GreenC"><span style="color: #093;"><b>C</b></span></a> 19:36, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GreenC|2019-07-01T19:36:00.000Z|Trappist the monk|2019-07-01T17:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gog the Mild|2019-07-01T19:44:00.000Z|GreenC|2019-07-01T19:36:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T19:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GreenC&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GreenC|2019-07-01T19:36:00.000Z|Trappist the monk|2019-07-01T17:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dd>—<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk" title="User talk:Trappist the monk">talk</a>) 17:56, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Trappist the monk|2019-07-01T17:56:00.000Z|User-duck|2019-07-01T17:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|GreenC|2019-07-01T19:36:00.000Z|Trappist the monk|2019-07-01T17:56:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T17:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Trappist the monk&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Trappist the monk|2019-07-01T17:56:00.000Z|User-duck|2019-07-01T17:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|GreenC|2019-07-01T19:36:00.000Z|Trappist the monk|2019-07-01T17:56:00.000Z"></span>This is IABot via Oauth request by Gog the Mild. It was due to some miscommunications, my fault, iabot has been patched/rebooted and will look into fixing the errors added onwiki. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GreenC" title="User:GreenC"><span style="color: #006A4E;"><b>Green</b></span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC" title="User talk:GreenC"><span style="color: #093;"><b>C</b></span></a> 19:36, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GreenC|2019-07-01T19:36:00.000Z|Trappist the monk|2019-07-01T17:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gog the Mild|2019-07-01T19:44:00.000Z|GreenC|2019-07-01T19:36:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T19:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GreenC&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GreenC|2019-07-01T19:36:00.000Z|Trappist the monk|2019-07-01T17:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gog the Mild|2019-07-01T19:44:00.000Z|GreenC|2019-07-01T19:36:00.000Z"></span>Edit conflict. I had just written:
 <dl><dd>Thank you <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a>. That would have been from me clicking "Fix dead links" on the "Revision history" page and not checking the result thoroughly enough. I shall recheck my other recent clicks of that button.</dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GreenC" title="User:GreenC">GreenC</a>, do I need to do anything, other than recheck previous uses of "Fix dead links", and/or cease using it? Thanks <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gog_the_Mild" title="User:Gog the Mild">Gog the Mild</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gog_the_Mild" title="User talk:Gog the Mild">talk</a>) 19:44, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gog the Mild|2019-07-01T19:44:00.000Z|GreenC|2019-07-01T19:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|GreenC|2019-07-01T19:48:00.000Z|Gog the Mild|2019-07-01T19:44:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T19:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gog the Mild&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gog the Mild|2019-07-01T19:44:00.000Z|GreenC|2019-07-01T19:36:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|GreenC|2019-07-01T19:48:00.000Z|Gog the Mild|2019-07-01T19:44:00.000Z"></span>You are good, it's ok now. Looks like the bug lasted 3hrs and somewhere between 100-200 articles. I might script a quick fix or request something at AWB request wouldn't worry about manually repairing. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GreenC" title="User:GreenC"><span style="color: #006A4E;"><b>Green</b></span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC" title="User talk:GreenC"><span style="color: #093;"><b>C</b></span></a> 19:48, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GreenC|2019-07-01T19:48:00.000Z|Gog the Mild|2019-07-01T19:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T19:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GreenC&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GreenC|2019-07-01T19:48:00.000Z|Gog the Mild|2019-07-01T19:44:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GreenC" title="User:GreenC">GreenC</a>, do I need to do anything, other than recheck previous uses of "Fix dead links", and/or cease using it? Thanks <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gog_the_Mild" title="User:Gog the Mild">Gog the Mild</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gog_the_Mild" title="User talk:Gog the Mild">talk</a>) 19:44, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gog the Mild|2019-07-01T19:44:00.000Z|GreenC|2019-07-01T19:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|GreenC|2019-07-01T19:48:00.000Z|Gog the Mild|2019-07-01T19:44:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T19:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gog the Mild&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gog the Mild|2019-07-01T19:44:00.000Z|GreenC|2019-07-01T19:36:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|GreenC|2019-07-01T19:48:00.000Z|Gog the Mild|2019-07-01T19:44:00.000Z"></span>You are good, it's ok now. Looks like the bug lasted 3hrs and somewhere between 100-200 articles. I might script a quick fix or request something at AWB request wouldn't worry about manually repairing. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GreenC" title="User:GreenC"><span style="color: #006A4E;"><b>Green</b></span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC" title="User talk:GreenC"><span style="color: #093;"><b>C</b></span></a> 19:48, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GreenC|2019-07-01T19:48:00.000Z|Gog the Mild|2019-07-01T19:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T19:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GreenC&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GreenC|2019-07-01T19:48:00.000Z|Gog the Mild|2019-07-01T19:44:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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@@ -341,25 +341,25 @@ Tag: Rescuing 14 sources and tagging 0 as dead. #IABot (v2.0beta15)
 <li>Translated <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Kirn" title="Otto Kirn">Otto Kirn</a> added here.</li>
 <li>Wikidata <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q24529752&amp;type=revision&amp;diff=972287747&amp;oldid=962285762">updated</a> for articles now in two languages.</li>
 <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Otto_Kirn&amp;type=revision&amp;diff=904301626&amp;oldid=904291001">Tagged as an orphan</a> here.</li></ol>
-<p>Question: Why doesn’t English addition to Wikidata automatically prompt changing of links previously made to point other languages? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Hyperbolick" title="User:Hyperbolick">Hyperbolick</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Hyperbolick" title="User talk:Hyperbolick">talk</a>) 19:49, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Hyperbolick|2019-07-01T19:49:00.000Z|Question_re:_new_translations_of_articles_linked_out_to_other_languages&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-01T21:12:00.000Z|Hyperbolick|2019-07-01T19:49:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T19:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Hyperbolick&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Hyperbolick|2019-07-01T19:49:00.000Z|Question_re:_new_translations_of_articles_linked_out_to_other_languages"></span>
+<p>Question: Why doesn’t English addition to Wikidata automatically prompt changing of links previously made to point other languages? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Hyperbolick" title="User:Hyperbolick">Hyperbolick</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Hyperbolick" title="User talk:Hyperbolick">talk</a>) 19:49, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Hyperbolick|2019-07-01T19:49:00.000Z|Question_re:_new_translations_of_articles_linked_out_to_other_languages&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-01T21:12:00.000Z|Hyperbolick|2019-07-01T19:49:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T19:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Hyperbolick&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Hyperbolick|2019-07-01T19:49:00.000Z|Question_re:_new_translations_of_articles_linked_out_to_other_languages"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-01T21:12:00.000Z|Hyperbolick|2019-07-01T19:49:00.000Z"></span>The edit said <code>[[:de:Otto Kirn]]</code>. This explicitly tells to link the German Wikipedia. <code>{{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Interlanguage_link" title="Template:Interlanguage link">Interlanguage link</a>|Otto Kirn|de}}</code>} could have been used instead to test for an English article called <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Kirn" title="Otto Kirn">Otto Kirn</a>. It would only have examined whether the page name exists and not whether it's in a Wikidata item. As far as I know we have no template for the latter. It is possible to pull information from Wikidata so maybe it could be added as a feature in <code>{{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Interlanguage_link" title="Template:Interlanguage link">Interlanguage link</a>}}</code>. I don't think it's possible for an English template to look up the Wikidata item for a German article so Q24529752 would probably have to be a parameter. A bot could be coded to automaticlly add the parameter when it's not supplied. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 21:12, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-01T21:12:00.000Z|Hyperbolick|2019-07-01T19:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Hyperbolick|2019-07-01T21:41:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-01T21:12:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T21:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-01T21:12:00.000Z|Hyperbolick|2019-07-01T19:49:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Hyperbolick|2019-07-01T21:41:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-01T21:12:00.000Z"></span>Could a bot check whenever a Wikidata item is connected from here? Got a notification here when it was, so somebody’s telling this Wiki. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Hyperbolick" title="User:Hyperbolick">Hyperbolick</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Hyperbolick" title="User talk:Hyperbolick">talk</a>) 21:41, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Hyperbolick|2019-07-01T21:41:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-01T21:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T21:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Hyperbolick&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Hyperbolick|2019-07-01T21:41:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-01T21:12:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-01T21:12:00.000Z|Hyperbolick|2019-07-01T19:49:00.000Z"></span>The edit said <code>[[:de:Otto Kirn]]</code>. This explicitly tells to link the German Wikipedia. <code>{{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Interlanguage_link" title="Template:Interlanguage link">Interlanguage link</a>|Otto Kirn|de}}</code>} could have been used instead to test for an English article called <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Kirn" title="Otto Kirn">Otto Kirn</a>. It would only have examined whether the page name exists and not whether it's in a Wikidata item. As far as I know we have no template for the latter. It is possible to pull information from Wikidata so maybe it could be added as a feature in <code>{{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Interlanguage_link" title="Template:Interlanguage link">Interlanguage link</a>}}</code>. I don't think it's possible for an English template to look up the Wikidata item for a German article so Q24529752 would probably have to be a parameter. A bot could be coded to automaticlly add the parameter when it's not supplied. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 21:12, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-01T21:12:00.000Z|Hyperbolick|2019-07-01T19:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Hyperbolick|2019-07-01T21:41:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-01T21:12:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T21:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-01T21:12:00.000Z|Hyperbolick|2019-07-01T19:49:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Hyperbolick|2019-07-01T21:41:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-01T21:12:00.000Z"></span>Could a bot check whenever a Wikidata item is connected from here? Got a notification here when it was, so somebody’s telling this Wiki. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Hyperbolick" title="User:Hyperbolick">Hyperbolick</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Hyperbolick" title="User talk:Hyperbolick">talk</a>) 21:41, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Hyperbolick|2019-07-01T21:41:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-01T21:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T21:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Hyperbolick&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Hyperbolick|2019-07-01T21:41:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-01T21:12:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Database_issue" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Database_issue|2019-07-02T02:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|UnitedStatesian|2019-07-02T02:46:00.000Z|Database_issue&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Database_issue|2019-07-02T02:46:00.000Z"></span>Database issue<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Database_issue|2019-07-02T02:46:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|UnitedStatesian|2019-07-02T02:46:00.000Z|Database_issue"></span>Could someone knowledgable comment here, centrally, on whether there are database issues beyond the apparently temporary ones outlined in the above Tech News, and if so, what are their extent and when do we think they will be resolved?  It appears multiple bots have for some time not been running DB intensive tasks (such as certain <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_reports" title="Wikipedia:Database reports">Wikipedia:Database reports</a>), and it is very difficult to parse through all the bot/report talkpage chatter to get a true picture of what is actually going on.  Thanks in advance! <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:UnitedStatesian" title="User:UnitedStatesian">UnitedStatesian</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:UnitedStatesian" title="User talk:UnitedStatesian">talk</a>) 02:46, 2 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|UnitedStatesian|2019-07-02T02:46:00.000Z|Database_issue&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|JJMC89|2019-07-02T05:29:00.000Z|UnitedStatesian|2019-07-02T02:46:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-02T02:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;UnitedStatesian&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|UnitedStatesian|2019-07-02T02:46:00.000Z|Database_issue"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|UnitedStatesian|2019-07-02T02:46:00.000Z|Database_issue"></span>Could someone knowledgable comment here, centrally, on whether there are database issues beyond the apparently temporary ones outlined in the above Tech News, and if so, what are their extent and when do we think they will be resolved?  It appears multiple bots have for some time not been running DB intensive tasks (such as certain <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_reports" title="Wikipedia:Database reports">Wikipedia:Database reports</a>), and it is very difficult to parse through all the bot/report talkpage chatter to get a true picture of what is actually going on.  Thanks in advance! <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:UnitedStatesian" title="User:UnitedStatesian">UnitedStatesian</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:UnitedStatesian" title="User talk:UnitedStatesian">talk</a>) 02:46, 2 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|UnitedStatesian|2019-07-02T02:46:00.000Z|Database_issue&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|JJMC89|2019-07-02T05:29:00.000Z|UnitedStatesian|2019-07-02T02:46:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-02T02:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;UnitedStatesian&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|UnitedStatesian|2019-07-02T02:46:00.000Z|Database_issue"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JJMC89|2019-07-02T05:29:00.000Z|UnitedStatesian|2019-07-02T02:46:00.000Z"></span>The <a href="https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Toolforge/Database" class="extiw" title="wikitech:Help:Toolforge/Database">database replicas</a> are undergoing maintenance (see <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T222978" class="extiw" title="phab:T222978">T222978</a>). This involves taking one replica host out of service at a time. The other two hosts then have increased load, which leads to replication lag and increased query time (previously long queries could fail to complete). Maintenance is usually ongoing during the week and paused over the weekends. I would expect this to be an ongoing issue for a while. I don't know how long the maintenance will take, but the DBAs are <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T226050#5298927" class="extiw" title="phab:T226050">reaching the end of the maintenance one the first replica</a>. The database items in the Tech News are unrelated. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JJMC89" title="User:JJMC89">JJMC89</a> <small>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JJMC89" title="User talk:JJMC89">T</a><b>·</b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/JJMC89" title="Special:Contributions/JJMC89">C</a>)</small> 05:29, 2 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JJMC89|2019-07-02T05:29:00.000Z|UnitedStatesian|2019-07-02T02:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-02T05:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JJMC89&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JJMC89|2019-07-02T05:29:00.000Z|UnitedStatesian|2019-07-02T02:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JJMC89|2019-07-02T05:29:00.000Z|UnitedStatesian|2019-07-02T02:46:00.000Z"></span>The <a href="https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Toolforge/Database" class="extiw" title="wikitech:Help:Toolforge/Database">database replicas</a> are undergoing maintenance (see <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T222978" class="extiw" title="phab:T222978">T222978</a>). This involves taking one replica host out of service at a time. The other two hosts then have increased load, which leads to replication lag and increased query time (previously long queries could fail to complete). Maintenance is usually ongoing during the week and paused over the weekends. I would expect this to be an ongoing issue for a while. I don't know how long the maintenance will take, but the DBAs are <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T226050#5298927" class="extiw" title="phab:T226050">reaching the end of the maintenance one the first replica</a>. The database items in the Tech News are unrelated. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JJMC89" title="User:JJMC89">JJMC89</a> <small>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JJMC89" title="User talk:JJMC89">T</a><b>·</b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/JJMC89" title="Special:Contributions/JJMC89">C</a>)</small> 05:29, 2 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JJMC89|2019-07-02T05:29:00.000Z|UnitedStatesian|2019-07-02T02:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-02T05:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JJMC89&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JJMC89|2019-07-02T05:29:00.000Z|UnitedStatesian|2019-07-02T02:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id="Question.2C_watchlist_listing_error_.26_problem"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Question,_watchlist_listing_error_&amp;_problem" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Question,_watchlist_listing_error_&amp;_problem|2019-07-01T20:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|KIENGIR|2019-07-01T20:21:00.000Z|Question,_watchlist_listing_error_&amp;_problem&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Question,_watchlist_listing_error_&amp;_problem|2019-07-01T20:21:00.000Z"></span>Question, watchlist listing error &amp; problem<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Question,_watchlist_listing_error_&amp;_problem|2019-07-01T20:21:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|KIENGIR|2019-07-01T20:21:00.000Z|Question,_watchlist_listing_error_&amp;_problem"></span>Dear All,
-</p><p>initially I turned to administrator regarding the issue, but unfortunetly he could not give an <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Vanjagenije#Question" title="User talk:Vanjagenije">idea</a> for solution. The details may be read there...Shortly, if I set it to list the changes back to 7 or 30 days, it is not working, just listing the last 250 changes, not more and I have as well no (previous/next) buttons...I need a solution, Thank You(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:KIENGIR" title="User:KIENGIR">KIENGIR</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:KIENGIR" title="User talk:KIENGIR">talk</a>) 20:21, 1 July 2019 (UTC))<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|KIENGIR|2019-07-01T20:21:00.000Z|Question,_watchlist_listing_error_&amp;_problem&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-01T20:36:00.000Z|KIENGIR|2019-07-01T20:21:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T20:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;KIENGIR&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|KIENGIR|2019-07-01T20:21:00.000Z|Question,_watchlist_listing_error_&amp;_problem"></span>
+</p><p>initially I turned to administrator regarding the issue, but unfortunetly he could not give an <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Vanjagenije#Question" title="User talk:Vanjagenije">idea</a> for solution. The details may be read there...Shortly, if I set it to list the changes back to 7 or 30 days, it is not working, just listing the last 250 changes, not more and I have as well no (previous/next) buttons...I need a solution, Thank You(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:KIENGIR" title="User:KIENGIR">KIENGIR</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:KIENGIR" title="User talk:KIENGIR">talk</a>) 20:21, 1 July 2019 (UTC))<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|KIENGIR|2019-07-01T20:21:00.000Z|Question,_watchlist_listing_error_&amp;_problem&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-01T20:36:00.000Z|KIENGIR|2019-07-01T20:21:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T20:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;KIENGIR&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|KIENGIR|2019-07-01T20:21:00.000Z|Question,_watchlist_listing_error_&amp;_problem"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-07-01T20:36:00.000Z|KIENGIR|2019-07-01T20:21:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:KIENGIR" title="User:KIENGIR">KIENGIR</a>:</span> This is <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_174#did_something_break_watchlist_and_make_it_too_short_again?" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 174">Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 174#did something break watchlist and make it too short again?</a>. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 20:36, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-01T20:36:00.000Z|KIENGIR|2019-07-01T20:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|KIENGIR|2019-07-02T10:39:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-01T20:36:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T20:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-07-01T20:36:00.000Z|KIENGIR|2019-07-01T20:21:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-07-01T20:36:00.000Z|KIENGIR|2019-07-01T20:21:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:KIENGIR" title="User:KIENGIR">KIENGIR</a>:</span> This is <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_174#did_something_break_watchlist_and_make_it_too_short_again?" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 174">Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 174#did something break watchlist and make it too short again?</a>. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 20:36, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-01T20:36:00.000Z|KIENGIR|2019-07-01T20:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|KIENGIR|2019-07-02T10:39:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-01T20:36:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T20:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-07-01T20:36:00.000Z|KIENGIR|2019-07-01T20:21:00.000Z"></span>
 <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|KIENGIR|2019-07-02T10:39:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-01T20:36:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64">Redrose64</a>:</span>,</dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd>Thank you it helped, I applied similar tweaks descibred there (in the detailed settings changing to 30 days and enabling 1000 entries as maximum). though, still I don't have 30 days, I assume mainly because of the 1000 entry limitation (I don't know where would be the url to tweak it higher). Thus practically I could go back two weeks, so my initial problem has been solved (going back between 4-7 days)...maybe as an important note for the others or the developers, even this worked only by unchecking the "Expand watchlist to show all changes, not just the most recent" in the Advanced Options...(initially at the first tweak attempt, I automatically checked this box assuming it is essential, but anything written above did not work until it was unchecked, ironically it had a contraproductive effect despite it's name...(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:KIENGIR" title="User:KIENGIR">KIENGIR</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:KIENGIR" title="User talk:KIENGIR">talk</a>) 10:39, 2 July 2019 (UTC))<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|KIENGIR|2019-07-02T10:39:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-01T20:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-02T10:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;KIENGIR&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|KIENGIR|2019-07-02T10:39:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-01T20:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd>Thank you it helped, I applied similar tweaks descibred there (in the detailed settings changing to 30 days and enabling 1000 entries as maximum). though, still I don't have 30 days, I assume mainly because of the 1000 entry limitation (I don't know where would be the url to tweak it higher). Thus practically I could go back two weeks, so my initial problem has been solved (going back between 4-7 days)...maybe as an important note for the others or the developers, even this worked only by unchecking the "Expand watchlist to show all changes, not just the most recent" in the Advanced Options...(initially at the first tweak attempt, I automatically checked this box assuming it is essential, but anything written above did not work until it was unchecked, ironically it had a contraproductive effect despite it's name...(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:KIENGIR" title="User:KIENGIR">KIENGIR</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:KIENGIR" title="User talk:KIENGIR">talk</a>) 10:39, 2 July 2019 (UTC))<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|KIENGIR|2019-07-02T10:39:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-01T20:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-02T10:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;KIENGIR&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|KIENGIR|2019-07-02T10:39:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-01T20:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id="Issues_with_alerts.2C_June_2019"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Issues_with_alerts,_June_2019" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Issues_with_alerts,_June_2019&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;h|Missing_notification_icons_in_MonoBook|Issues_with_alerts,_June_2019|2019-06-25T19:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;h|Excessive_width_on_monobook|Issues_with_alerts,_June_2019|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;h|Message_&amp;_notification_icons_in_Modern_skin|Issues_with_alerts,_June_2019|2019-06-27T14:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;h|Someone_has_broken_Thanks|Issues_with_alerts,_June_2019|2019-06-27T20:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;h|Stuck_alert\/notification|Issues_with_alerts,_June_2019|2019-06-28T03:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;h|I'm_being_over-notified.|Issues_with_alerts,_June_2019|2019-06-28T20:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;h|Hack_added_to_monobook.css|Issues_with_alerts,_June_2019|2019-06-28T22:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;h|Deployment_update|Issues_with_alerts,_June_2019|2019-07-03T00:02:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Issues_with_alerts,_June_2019"></span>Issues with alerts, June 2019<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Issues_with_alerts,_June_2019"></span></span></h2>
 <h3><span class="mw-headline" id="Missing_notification_icons_in_MonoBook" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Missing_notification_icons_in_MonoBook|Issues_with_alerts,_June_2019|2019-06-25T19:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-25T19:52:00.000Z|Missing_notification_icons_in_MonoBook&quot;,&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-29T19:54:00.000Z|Missing_notification_icons_in_MonoBook&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:3,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Missing_notification_icons_in_MonoBook|Issues_with_alerts,_June_2019|2019-06-25T19:52:00.000Z"></span>Missing notification icons in MonoBook<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Missing_notification_icons_in_MonoBook|Issues_with_alerts,_June_2019|2019-06-25T19:52:00.000Z"></span></span></h3>
 <div role="note" style="float:right; clear:right; border:1px solid #999; -moz-border-radius: 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 2px; border-radius: 2px; background-color:#eee; font-size:85%; text-align:center; padding:0.5em; margin-left:1em; margin-bottom:1em; width:12em" class="plainlinks mw-trackedTemplate"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-25T19:52:00.000Z|Missing_notification_icons_in_MonoBook"></span>Tracked in <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/" class="extiw" title="phabricator:">Phabricator</a><br/><b><a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T226503" class="extiw" title="phabricator:T226503"><span class="trakfab-T226503">Task T226503</span></a></b></div>
-<p>I just spent ten minutes trying to figure out what was wrong on my end. If you're doing the same, it's not just you. See <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T226503" class="extiw" title="phab:T226503">phab:T226503</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User talk:Suffusion of Yellow">talk</a>) 19:52, 25 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-25T19:52:00.000Z|Missing_notification_icons_in_MonoBook&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-06-25T20:21:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-25T19:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Killiondude|2019-06-25T23:42:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-25T19:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-25T19:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Suffusion of Yellow&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-25T19:52:00.000Z|Missing_notification_icons_in_MonoBook"></span>
+<p>I just spent ten minutes trying to figure out what was wrong on my end. If you're doing the same, it's not just you. See <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T226503" class="extiw" title="phab:T226503">phab:T226503</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User talk:Suffusion of Yellow">talk</a>) 19:52, 25 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-25T19:52:00.000Z|Missing_notification_icons_in_MonoBook&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-06-25T20:21:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-25T19:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Killiondude|2019-06-25T23:42:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-25T19:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-25T19:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Suffusion of Yellow&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-25T19:52:00.000Z|Missing_notification_icons_in_MonoBook"></span>
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 <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-06-25T20:21:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-25T19:52:00.000Z"></span>I'm getting it in MonoBook too. The appropriate CSS rules are present in the stylesheets: <div class="mw-highlight mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"><pre><span></span><span class="p">.</span><span class="nc">oo-ui-icon-bell</span><span class="o">,</span> <span class="p">.</span><span class="nc">mw-ui-icon-bell</span><span class="p">:</span><span class="nd">before</span> <span class="p">{</span>
     <span class="k">background-image</span><span class="p">:</span> <span class="nb">url</span><span class="p">(</span><span class="sx">/w/load.php?modules=oojs-ui.styles.icons-alerts&amp;image=bell&amp;format=rasterized&amp;lang=en&amp;skin=monobook</span><span class="p">);</span>
@@ -369,159 +369,159 @@ Tag: Rescuing 14 sources and tagging 0 as dead. #IABot (v2.0beta15)
     <span class="k">background-image</span><span class="p">:</span> <span class="nb">url</span><span class="p">(</span><span class="sx">/w/load.php?modules=oojs-ui.styles.icons-alerts&amp;image=tray&amp;format=rasterized&amp;lang=en&amp;skin=monobook</span><span class="p">);</span>
     <span class="k">background-image</span><span class="p">:</span> <span class="nb">linear-gradient</span><span class="p">(</span><span class="kc">transparent</span><span class="p">,</span><span class="kc">transparent</span><span class="p">),</span><span class="nb">url</span><span class="p">(</span><span class="s2">"data:image/svg+xml,%3Csvg xmlns=%22http://www.w3.org/2000/svg%22 width=%2220%22 height=%2220%22 viewBox=%220 0 20 20%22%3E%3Ctitle%3Etray%3C/title%3E%3Cpath d=%22M3 1a2 2 0 0 0-2 2v14a2 2 0 0 0 2 2h14a2 2 0 0 0 2-2V3a2 2 0 0 0-2-2zm14 12h-4l-1 2H8l-1-2H3V3h14z%22/%3E%3C/svg%3E"</span><span class="p">);</span>
 <span class="p">}</span>
-</pre></div> Switching to Vector displays them properly, even though the CSS rules are virtually identical - the only differences are that the word "monobook" becomes "vector" in the first and third <code>url(...)</code> value. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 20:21, 25 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-06-25T20:21:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-25T19:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-25T20:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-06-25T20:21:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-25T19:52:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Killiondude|2019-06-25T23:42:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-25T19:52:00.000Z"></span>Um, did the fix also give a ton of scroll-space to the right of anyone else's window? I can now scroll for a very long time to the right, despite there being no content. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Killiondude" title="User:Killiondude">Killiondude</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Killiondude" title="User talk:Killiondude">talk</a>) 23:42, 25 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Killiondude|2019-06-25T23:42:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-25T19:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-25T23:45:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-25T23:42:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-25T23:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Killiondude&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Killiondude|2019-06-25T23:42:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-25T19:52:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-25T23:45:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-25T23:42:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Killiondude" title="User:Killiondude">Killiondude</a>:</span> Yes, I see the same thing. (Firefox 67, Linux) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User talk:Suffusion of Yellow">talk</a>) 23:45, 25 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-25T23:45:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-25T23:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-06-25T23:53:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-25T23:45:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-25T23:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Suffusion of Yellow&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-25T23:45:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-25T23:42:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nyttend|2019-06-25T23:53:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-25T23:45:00.000Z"></span>Ditto here, IE 11 in Windows.  They were missing for a while, but now they've reappeared.  I think they're blurrier than before, however.  Could someone ping me and thank me for this edit, so I can see whether the number notifications look any different.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nyttend" title="User talk:Nyttend">talk</a>) 23:53, 25 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-06-25T23:53:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-25T23:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T00:06:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-06-25T23:53:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-25T23:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nyttend&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nyttend|2019-06-25T23:53:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-25T23:45:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T00:06:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-06-25T23:53:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a>:</span> (ping) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User talk:Suffusion of Yellow">talk</a>) 00:06, 26 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T00:06:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-06-25T23:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-06-26T10:51:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T00:06:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T00:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Suffusion of Yellow&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T00:06:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-06-25T23:53:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nyttend|2019-06-26T10:51:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T00:06:00.000Z"></span>Thank you.  Things are somewhat different; the numbers looked normal, but when I clicked each one, it was momentarily surrounded by a little dark box.  The same is true if I want to review past notifications and click either of the icons when I have nothing new.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nyttend" title="User talk:Nyttend">talk</a>) 10:51, 26 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-06-26T10:51:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T00:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-06-26T13:06:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-06-26T10:51:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T10:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nyttend&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nyttend|2019-06-26T10:51:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T00:06:00.000Z"></span>
+</pre></div> Switching to Vector displays them properly, even though the CSS rules are virtually identical - the only differences are that the word "monobook" becomes "vector" in the first and third <code>url(...)</code> value. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 20:21, 25 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-06-25T20:21:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-25T19:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-25T20:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-06-25T20:21:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-25T19:52:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Killiondude|2019-06-25T23:42:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-25T19:52:00.000Z"></span>Um, did the fix also give a ton of scroll-space to the right of anyone else's window? I can now scroll for a very long time to the right, despite there being no content. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Killiondude" title="User:Killiondude">Killiondude</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Killiondude" title="User talk:Killiondude">talk</a>) 23:42, 25 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Killiondude|2019-06-25T23:42:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-25T19:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-25T23:45:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-25T23:42:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-25T23:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Killiondude&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Killiondude|2019-06-25T23:42:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-25T19:52:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-25T23:45:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-25T23:42:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Killiondude" title="User:Killiondude">Killiondude</a>:</span> Yes, I see the same thing. (Firefox 67, Linux) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User talk:Suffusion of Yellow">talk</a>) 23:45, 25 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-25T23:45:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-25T23:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-06-25T23:53:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-25T23:45:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-25T23:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Suffusion of Yellow&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-25T23:45:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-25T23:42:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nyttend|2019-06-25T23:53:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-25T23:45:00.000Z"></span>Ditto here, IE 11 in Windows.  They were missing for a while, but now they've reappeared.  I think they're blurrier than before, however.  Could someone ping me and thank me for this edit, so I can see whether the number notifications look any different.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nyttend" title="User talk:Nyttend">talk</a>) 23:53, 25 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-06-25T23:53:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-25T23:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T00:06:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-06-25T23:53:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-25T23:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nyttend&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nyttend|2019-06-25T23:53:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-25T23:45:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T00:06:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-06-25T23:53:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a>:</span> (ping) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User talk:Suffusion of Yellow">talk</a>) 00:06, 26 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T00:06:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-06-25T23:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-06-26T10:51:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T00:06:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T00:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Suffusion of Yellow&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T00:06:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-06-25T23:53:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nyttend|2019-06-26T10:51:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T00:06:00.000Z"></span>Thank you.  Things are somewhat different; the numbers looked normal, but when I clicked each one, it was momentarily surrounded by a little dark box.  The same is true if I want to review past notifications and click either of the icons when I have nothing new.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nyttend" title="User talk:Nyttend">talk</a>) 10:51, 26 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-06-26T10:51:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T00:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-06-26T13:06:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-06-26T10:51:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T10:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nyttend&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nyttend|2019-06-26T10:51:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T00:06:00.000Z"></span>
 <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-06-26T13:06:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-06-26T10:51:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a>:</span> You might be right about the extra blurriness, I'm not sure (I took some screenshots a few years ago: <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Vpt_redrose64_alerts.PNG" class="extiw" title="c:File:Vpt redrose64 alerts.PNG">c:File:Vpt redrose64 alerts.PNG</a>, <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Vpt_redrose64_alerts2.PNG" class="extiw" title="c:File:Vpt redrose64 alerts2.PNG">c:File:Vpt redrose64 alerts2.PNG</a>, <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Vpt_redrose64_alerts3.PNG" class="extiw" title="c:File:Vpt redrose64 alerts3.PNG">c:File:Vpt redrose64 alerts3.PNG</a> back when the car door was still in place, now replaced by the TV set icon). You're certainly right about the little dark box, it's blue and there are two for each icon, one enclosing the number and the other enclosing the icon.</dd>
-<dd><span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Killiondude" title="User:Killiondude">Killiondude</a>:</span> The super-wide scroll space was present for me on all pages until about an hour ago, it's now stopped appearing. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 13:06, 26 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-06-26T13:06:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-06-26T10:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:38:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-06-26T13:06:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T13:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-06-26T13:06:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-06-26T10:51:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:38:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-06-26T13:06:00.000Z"></span>You guys aren't getting the icons? I'm getting <i>only</i> the icons — not the actual pings. On the upside, I get all thanks twice. See <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Someone_has_broken_Thanks">below</a>. (Using Monobook.) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a> | <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bishonen" title="User talk:Bishonen">talk</a> 21:38, 27 June 2019 (UTC).<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:38:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-06-26T13:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T21:48:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:38:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T21:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bishonen&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:38:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-06-26T13:06:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T21:48:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:38:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a>:</span> That's because this problem was fixed and the "fix" caused another problem. Try putting my "fix"-to-the-fix from <a href="#Excessive_width_on_monobook">the other thread</a> in your monobook.css, and see if the links work as expected. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User talk:Suffusion of Yellow">talk</a>) 21:48, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:9,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T21:48:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:59:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T21:48:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T21:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Suffusion of Yellow&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T21:48:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:38:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:59:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T21:48:00.000Z"></span>I'm sorry, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a>, I don't see a fix-to-the fix in the other thread (you mean "Someone has broken Thanks", right?), and altogether, you're speaking a foreign language. Could you tell me what to do as if explaining to your mother? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a> | <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bishonen" title="User talk:Bishonen">talk</a> 21:59, 27 June 2019 (UTC).<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:10,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:59:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T21:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T22:07:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:59:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T21:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bishonen&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:59:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T21:48:00.000Z"></span>
+<dd><span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Killiondude" title="User:Killiondude">Killiondude</a>:</span> The super-wide scroll space was present for me on all pages until about an hour ago, it's now stopped appearing. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 13:06, 26 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-06-26T13:06:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-06-26T10:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:38:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-06-26T13:06:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T13:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-06-26T13:06:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-06-26T10:51:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:38:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-06-26T13:06:00.000Z"></span>You guys aren't getting the icons? I'm getting <i>only</i> the icons — not the actual pings. On the upside, I get all thanks twice. See <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Someone_has_broken_Thanks">below</a>. (Using Monobook.) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a> | <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bishonen" title="User talk:Bishonen">talk</a> 21:38, 27 June 2019 (UTC).<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:38:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-06-26T13:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T21:48:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:38:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T21:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bishonen&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:38:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-06-26T13:06:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T21:48:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:38:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a>:</span> That's because this problem was fixed and the "fix" caused another problem. Try putting my "fix"-to-the-fix from <a href="#Excessive_width_on_monobook">the other thread</a> in your monobook.css, and see if the links work as expected. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User talk:Suffusion of Yellow">talk</a>) 21:48, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:9,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T21:48:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:59:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T21:48:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T21:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Suffusion of Yellow&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T21:48:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:38:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:59:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T21:48:00.000Z"></span>I'm sorry, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a>, I don't see a fix-to-the fix in the other thread (you mean "Someone has broken Thanks", right?), and altogether, you're speaking a foreign language. Could you tell me what to do as if explaining to your mother? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a> | <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bishonen" title="User talk:Bishonen">talk</a> 21:59, 27 June 2019 (UTC).<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:10,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:59:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T21:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T22:07:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:59:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T21:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bishonen&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:59:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T21:48:00.000Z"></span>
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-</pre></div> to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MyPage/monobook.css" title="Special:MyPage/monobook.css">your monobook.css</a>. Works for me, at least. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User talk:Suffusion of Yellow">talk</a>) 22:07, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:11,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T22:07:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Bishonen|2019-06-28T08:10:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T22:07:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T22:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Suffusion of Yellow&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T22:07:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+</pre></div> to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MyPage/monobook.css" title="Special:MyPage/monobook.css">your monobook.css</a>. Works for me, at least. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User talk:Suffusion of Yellow">talk</a>) 22:07, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:11,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T22:07:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Bishonen|2019-06-28T08:10:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T22:07:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T22:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Suffusion of Yellow&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T22:07:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bishonen|2019-06-28T08:10:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T22:07:00.000Z"></span>And it worked for me. Thank you very much, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a>.</dd>
-<dd>Re-pinging <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a> | <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bishonen" title="User talk:Bishonen">talk</a> 08:10, 28 June 2019 (UTC).<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:12,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bishonen|2019-06-28T08:10:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T22:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Bishonen|2019-06-29T19:30:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-28T08:10:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T08:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bishonen&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bishonen|2019-06-28T08:10:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T22:07:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bishonen|2019-06-29T19:30:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-28T08:10:00.000Z"></span>Suffusion of Yellow</a>, I've just realized that my problem persists on Meta. Somebody pinged me, to test, and all I got was a three-year-old thanks. Can I put your magic code somewhere to fix that? (And hopefully Commons, Swedish Wikipedia, etc etc — I assume it's everywhere.) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a> | <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bishonen" title="User talk:Bishonen">talk</a> 19:30, 29 June 2019 (UTC).<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:13,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bishonen|2019-06-29T19:30:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-28T08:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-29T19:38:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-29T19:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-29T19:42:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-29T19:30:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-29T19:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bishonen&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bishonen|2019-06-29T19:30:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-28T08:10:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-29T19:38:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-29T19:30:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a>:</span> the problem on meta-wiki, (and most all other projects) should get cleaned up with the next release train.  If it doesn't I'll put the hack on meta-wiki.  If you need it urgently, you can hack your own monobook.css there (or just click a bit further to the left). — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 19:38, 29 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:14,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-29T19:38:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-29T19:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-29T19:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-29T19:38:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-29T19:30:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-29T19:42:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-29T19:30:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a>:</span> You can also put <s>the same code</s> in your <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyPage/global.css" class="extiw" title="meta:Special:MyPage/global.css">meta:Special:MyPage/global.css</a>. In theory this could cause display problems if you view some wikis in non-monobook skins, but I just tried in Vector and Timeless and I didn't see any problems. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User talk:Suffusion of Yellow">talk</a>) 19:42, 29 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:14,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-29T19:42:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-29T19:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-29T19:45:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-29T19:42:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-29T19:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Suffusion of Yellow&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-29T19:42:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-29T19:30:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-29T19:45:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-29T19:42:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a>:</span> Wait, just realized that it's possible to have the fix only apply to monobook. Give me a few minutes to work it out. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User talk:Suffusion of Yellow">talk</a>) 19:45, 29 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:15,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-29T19:45:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-29T19:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-29T19:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Suffusion of Yellow&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-29T19:45:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-29T19:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dd>Re-pinging <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a> | <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bishonen" title="User talk:Bishonen">talk</a> 08:10, 28 June 2019 (UTC).<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:12,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bishonen|2019-06-28T08:10:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T22:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Bishonen|2019-06-29T19:30:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-28T08:10:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T08:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bishonen&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bishonen|2019-06-28T08:10:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T22:07:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bishonen|2019-06-29T19:30:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-28T08:10:00.000Z"></span>Suffusion of Yellow</a>, I've just realized that my problem persists on Meta. Somebody pinged me, to test, and all I got was a three-year-old thanks. Can I put your magic code somewhere to fix that? (And hopefully Commons, Swedish Wikipedia, etc etc — I assume it's everywhere.) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a> | <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bishonen" title="User talk:Bishonen">talk</a> 19:30, 29 June 2019 (UTC).<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:13,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bishonen|2019-06-29T19:30:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-28T08:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-29T19:38:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-29T19:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-29T19:42:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-29T19:30:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-29T19:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bishonen&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bishonen|2019-06-29T19:30:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-28T08:10:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-29T19:38:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-29T19:30:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a>:</span> the problem on meta-wiki, (and most all other projects) should get cleaned up with the next release train.  If it doesn't I'll put the hack on meta-wiki.  If you need it urgently, you can hack your own monobook.css there (or just click a bit further to the left). — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 19:38, 29 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:14,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-29T19:38:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-29T19:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-29T19:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-29T19:38:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-29T19:30:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-29T19:42:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-29T19:30:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a>:</span> You can also put <s>the same code</s> in your <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyPage/global.css" class="extiw" title="meta:Special:MyPage/global.css">meta:Special:MyPage/global.css</a>. In theory this could cause display problems if you view some wikis in non-monobook skins, but I just tried in Vector and Timeless and I didn't see any problems. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User talk:Suffusion of Yellow">talk</a>) 19:42, 29 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:14,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-29T19:42:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-29T19:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-29T19:45:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-29T19:42:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-29T19:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Suffusion of Yellow&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-29T19:42:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-29T19:30:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-29T19:45:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-29T19:42:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a>:</span> Wait, just realized that it's possible to have the fix only apply to monobook. Give me a few minutes to work it out. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User talk:Suffusion of Yellow">talk</a>) 19:45, 29 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:15,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-29T19:45:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-29T19:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-29T19:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Suffusion of Yellow&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-29T19:45:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-29T19:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <p><span class="outdent-template" style="display:block;margin-top:-0.5em;color:#AAA;;position:relative;left:-0.25em"><span style="display:inline-block; overflow:hidden;">┌</span><span style="display:inline-block; overflow:hidden; word-wrap:normal; width:23.3em;">──────────────────────────────────────</span><span style="display:inline-block; overflow:hidden;">┘</span></span><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-29T19:54:00.000Z|Missing_notification_icons_in_MonoBook"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a>:</span> Ok, try putting:</p><div class="mw-highlight mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"><pre><span></span><span class="p">.</span><span class="nc">skin-monobook</span> <span class="p">#</span><span class="nn">pt-notifications-notice</span> <span class="p">.</span><span class="nc">mw-echo-notifications-badge</span><span class="o">,</span> <span class="p">.</span><span class="nc">skin-monobook</span> <span class="p">#</span><span class="nn">pt-notifications-alert</span> <span class="p">.</span><span class="nc">mw-echo-notifications-badge</span> <span class="p">{</span>
 	<span class="k">text-align</span><span class="p">:</span> <span class="kc">left</span><span class="p">;</span>
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-</pre></div><p> in your <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyPage/global.css" class="extiw" title="meta:Special:MyPage/global.css">meta:Special:MyPage/global.css</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User talk:Suffusion of Yellow">talk</a>) 19:54, 29 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-29T19:54:00.000Z|Missing_notification_icons_in_MonoBook&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Bishonen|2019-06-29T20:20:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-29T19:54:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-29T19:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Suffusion of Yellow&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-29T19:54:00.000Z|Missing_notification_icons_in_MonoBook"></span>
-</p><dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bishonen|2019-06-29T20:20:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-29T19:54:00.000Z"></span>Suffusion of Yellow</a>, now you're talking my language. It seems to work. Thank you. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a> | <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bishonen" title="User talk:Bishonen">talk</a> 20:20, 29 June 2019 (UTC).<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bishonen|2019-06-29T20:20:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-29T19:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-29T20:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bishonen&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bishonen|2019-06-29T20:20:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-29T19:54:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+</pre></div><p> in your <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyPage/global.css" class="extiw" title="meta:Special:MyPage/global.css">meta:Special:MyPage/global.css</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User talk:Suffusion of Yellow">talk</a>) 19:54, 29 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-29T19:54:00.000Z|Missing_notification_icons_in_MonoBook&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Bishonen|2019-06-29T20:20:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-29T19:54:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-29T19:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Suffusion of Yellow&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-29T19:54:00.000Z|Missing_notification_icons_in_MonoBook"></span>
+</p><dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bishonen|2019-06-29T20:20:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-29T19:54:00.000Z"></span>Suffusion of Yellow</a>, now you're talking my language. It seems to work. Thank you. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a> | <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bishonen" title="User talk:Bishonen">talk</a> 20:20, 29 June 2019 (UTC).<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bishonen|2019-06-29T20:20:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-29T19:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-29T20:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bishonen&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bishonen|2019-06-29T20:20:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-29T19:54:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <h3><span class="mw-headline" id="Excessive_width_on_monobook" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Excessive_width_on_monobook|Issues_with_alerts,_June_2019|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z|Excessive_width_on_monobook&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:3,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Excessive_width_on_monobook|Issues_with_alerts,_June_2019|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z"></span>Excessive width on monobook<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Excessive_width_on_monobook|Issues_with_alerts,_June_2019|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z"></span></span></h3>
 <div role="note" style="float:right; clear:right; border:1px solid #999; -moz-border-radius: 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 2px; border-radius: 2px; background-color:#eee; font-size:85%; text-align:center; padding:0.5em; margin-left:1em; margin-bottom:1em; width:12em" class="plainlinks mw-trackedTemplate"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z|Excessive_width_on_monobook"></span>Tracked in <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/" class="extiw" title="phabricator:">Phabricator</a><br/><b><a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T226594" class="extiw" title="phabricator:T226594"><span class="trakfab-T226594">Task T226594</span></a></b></div>
-<p>So if you are using monobook, you may now constantly think there is something off the page to the right.  See <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T226597" class="extiw" title="phab:T226597">phab:T226597</a> for the report.  Apparently this is a hack that the dev's put in to work around the notifications mess above. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 03:14, 26 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z|Excessive_width_on_monobook&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:41:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|RainFall|2019-06-26T07:13:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-06-26T10:53:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T11:58:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-26T12:00:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T03:46:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Lugnuts|2019-06-27T06:29:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Lugnuts|2019-06-27T14:29:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T21:33:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z|Excessive_width_on_monobook"></span>
+<p>So if you are using monobook, you may now constantly think there is something off the page to the right.  See <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T226597" class="extiw" title="phab:T226597">phab:T226597</a> for the report.  Apparently this is a hack that the dev's put in to work around the notifications mess above. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 03:14, 26 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z|Excessive_width_on_monobook&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:41:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|RainFall|2019-06-26T07:13:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-06-26T10:53:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T11:58:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-26T12:00:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T03:46:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Lugnuts|2019-06-27T06:29:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Lugnuts|2019-06-27T14:29:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T21:33:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z|Excessive_width_on_monobook"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:41:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z"></span>Merged to <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T226594" class="extiw" title="phab:T226594">phab:T226594</a>. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 03:41, 26 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:41:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Lugnuts|2019-06-26T06:54:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:41:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T03:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:41:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Lugnuts|2019-06-26T06:54:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:41:00.000Z"></span>Thank you. Just noticed this, and thought it was a broken ref spilling across the page I was on! <b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lugnuts" title="User:Lugnuts"><font color="002bb8">Lugnuts</font></a></b> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Lugnuts" title="User talk:Lugnuts">Fire Walk with Me</a></sup> 06:54, 26 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Lugnuts|2019-06-26T06:54:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T06:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Lugnuts&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Lugnuts|2019-06-26T06:54:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:41:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RainFall|2019-06-26T07:13:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z"></span>Jeez. Hadn't noticed. Can't unsee now. Here's a temporary fix. —<b style="font-variant: all-small-caps;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RainFall" class="mw-redirect" title="User:RainFall"><b style="background: black; color:white; padding: 1.5px 0 1.5px 4px;">Rain</b></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RainFall" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:RainFall"><b style="background: #545454; color:white; padding: 1.5px 4px 1.5px 0">Fall</b></a></b> 07:13, 26 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RainFall|2019-06-26T07:13:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T07:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RainFall&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RainFall|2019-06-26T07:13:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:41:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z"></span>Merged to <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T226594" class="extiw" title="phab:T226594">phab:T226594</a>. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 03:41, 26 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:41:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Lugnuts|2019-06-26T06:54:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:41:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T03:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:41:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Lugnuts|2019-06-26T06:54:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:41:00.000Z"></span>Thank you. Just noticed this, and thought it was a broken ref spilling across the page I was on! <b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lugnuts" title="User:Lugnuts"><font color="002bb8">Lugnuts</font></a></b> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Lugnuts" title="User talk:Lugnuts">Fire Walk with Me</a></sup> 06:54, 26 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Lugnuts|2019-06-26T06:54:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T06:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Lugnuts&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Lugnuts|2019-06-26T06:54:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:41:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RainFall|2019-06-26T07:13:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z"></span>Jeez. Hadn't noticed. Can't unsee now. Here's a temporary fix. —<b style="font-variant: all-small-caps;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RainFall" class="mw-redirect" title="User:RainFall"><b style="background: black; color:white; padding: 1.5px 0 1.5px 4px;">Rain</b></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RainFall" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:RainFall"><b style="background: #545454; color:white; padding: 1.5px 4px 1.5px 0">Fall</b></a></b> 07:13, 26 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RainFall|2019-06-26T07:13:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T07:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RainFall&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RainFall|2019-06-26T07:13:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z"></span></dd>
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 	<span class="k">text-indent</span><span class="p">:</span> <span class="mi">0</span><span class="kt">px</span> <span class="cp">!important</span><span class="p">;</span>
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-<dl><dd>Yesterday, when I responded to the thread above ("please ping and thank me"), I looked for this and it wasn't the case, but now it is.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nyttend" title="User talk:Nyttend">talk</a>) 10:53, 26 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-06-26T10:53:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T10:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nyttend&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nyttend|2019-06-26T10:53:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T11:58:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z"></span>I've added <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RainFall" class="mw-redirect" title="User:RainFall">RainFall</a>'s fix temporarily to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Monobook.css" title="MediaWiki:Monobook.css">MediaWiki:Monobook.css</a> after testing locally, revert if any new issues are caused (I tested with both notification types as well). — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 11:58, 26 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T11:58:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T11:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T11:58:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-26T12:00:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z"></span>Does the temporary fix actually work? I've still got the excessive width. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 12:00, 26 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-26T12:00:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T12:01:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-26T12:00:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T12:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-26T12:00:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T12:01:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-26T12:00:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a>:</span> it took a min to update the central css, try force refreshing a page. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 12:01, 26 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T12:01:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-26T12:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-26T12:05:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T21:24:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T12:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T12:01:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-26T12:00:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-26T12:05:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T12:01:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux">Xaosflux</a>:</span> Now working, thank you. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 12:05, 26 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-26T12:05:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T12:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-26T12:05:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T12:01:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T21:24:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T12:01:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux">Xaosflux</a>:</span> Now, when I click on the "talk" link to the right of the notifications, I get the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Notifications" title="Special:Notifications">Special:Notifications</a> popup instead. It looks like the screen-reader text, hidden by <code>color:transparent</code>, is overlapping with the talk link. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User talk:Suffusion of Yellow">talk</a>) 21:24, 26 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T21:24:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T21:37:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T21:24:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T21:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Suffusion of Yellow&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T21:24:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T12:01:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T21:37:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T21:24:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lugnuts" title="User:Lugnuts">Lugnuts</a>,  and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RainFall" class="mw-redirect" title="User:RainFall">RainFall</a>:</span> OK, I reverted the .css in monobook.css, give it a few and see if it fixes that problem (resulting in the original problem) - seems like I'm having to argue with the dev team to get them to understand that the change they made is making the final page worse than before :( — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 21:37, 26 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T21:37:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T21:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T21:38:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T21:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T21:52:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T21:37:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T21:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T21:37:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T21:24:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T21:38:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T21:37:00.000Z"></span>OK Talk is back, but so is super-wide-mode :( — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 21:38, 26 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T21:38:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T21:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T21:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T21:38:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T21:37:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><small><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T21:52:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T21:37:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux">Xaosflux</a>:</span> Argue with the The Knights Who Say "OOUI!"? Good luck! <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User talk:Suffusion of Yellow">talk</a>) 21:52, 26 June 2019 (UTC) </small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T21:52:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T21:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:31:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Killiondude|2019-06-26T22:35:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T21:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Suffusion of Yellow&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T21:52:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T21:37:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:31:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T21:52:00.000Z"></span>I'd like to laugh, but it's so annoying that breaking changes are just rolled out.  If WMF want's to deprecate monobook they need to just say it - else stop breaking it.... — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 22:31, 26 June 2019 (UTC)</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:31:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-26T22:32:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T22:33:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:31:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:31:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T21:52:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-26T22:32:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:31:00.000Z"></span>"Quick - we need a distraction from Framgate, BREAK THINGS!" <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 22:32, 26 June 2019 (UTC)</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-26T22:32:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:41:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-26T22:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T22:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-26T22:32:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:31:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:41:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-26T22:32:00.000Z"></span>please please please, don't feed to conspiracy theorists ... — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 22:41, 26 June 2019 (UTC)<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:41:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-26T22:32:00.000Z"></span></small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:9,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:41:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-26T22:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T22:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T22:33:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:31:00.000Z"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r886049556">.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">deprecate monobook</q>: <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BEANS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BEANS">WP:BEANS</a>! <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User talk:Suffusion of Yellow">talk</a>) 22:33, 26 June 2019 (UTC) </small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T22:33:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-06-27T06:31:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T22:33:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T22:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Suffusion of Yellow&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T22:33:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:31:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-06-27T06:31:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T22:33:00.000Z"></span>"Deprecate" would be too strong a word, but the end of official support for MonoBook was announced about half a dozen years ago.<a class="external autonumber" href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Turning_off_outdated_skins#Why_are_you_keeping_these_four_skins?">[7]</a>  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Whatamidoing_(WMF)" title="User:Whatamidoing (WMF)">Whatamidoing (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Whatamidoing_(WMF)" title="User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF)">talk</a>) 06:31, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:9,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-06-27T06:31:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T22:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T06:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Whatamidoing (WMF)&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-06-27T06:31:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T22:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Killiondude|2019-06-26T22:35:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T21:52:00.000Z"></span>I suppose I can put that code in my own css file, but I'd prefer that talk page link not to work over the wide screen space. I use trackpad shortcuts to move backward and forward through browser tab history a lot on Wikipedia. Having all the space to the right pretty much disallows moving forward in the history via that shortcut. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Killiondude" title="User:Killiondude">Killiondude</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Killiondude" title="User talk:Killiondude">talk</a>) 22:35, 26 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Killiondude|2019-06-26T22:35:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:42:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-26T22:35:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T22:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Killiondude&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Killiondude|2019-06-26T22:35:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T21:52:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:42:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-26T22:35:00.000Z"></span>If someone can come up with another hack for it that doesn't break things I'll happily force it back out there.  — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 22:42, 26 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:42:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-26T22:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:43:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:42:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T22:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:42:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-26T22:35:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:43:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:42:00.000Z"></span>If somehow this breaks the fundraising banner <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Seddon_(WMF)" title="User:Seddon (WMF)">Seddon (WMF)</a> is working on I bet it will get immediate attention...ijs... — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 22:43, 26 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:9,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:43:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T22:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:43:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T03:46:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z"></span>For any of my over-the-top complaining on this, some of it is frustration - but I really would like to thank <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Roan_Kattouw_(WMF)" title="User:Roan Kattouw (WMF)">Catrope</a> for their continuing efforts to resolve this.  Last update, the width problem is fixed, but now there is an alignment issue with the areas to click (you have to click a little further to the left then you used to right now) - this is already reported to phab.  — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 03:46, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T03:46:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Risker|2019-06-27T04:16:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T03:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|RainFall|2019-06-27T05:15:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T03:46:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T03:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T03:46:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Risker|2019-06-27T04:16:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T03:46:00.000Z"></span>Ah, I was wondering about that. I was trying to get to my userpage from the link at the top, and kept getting info about notifications... <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Risker" title="User:Risker">Risker</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Risker" title="User talk:Risker">talk</a>) 04:16, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Risker|2019-06-27T04:16:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T03:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T04:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Risker&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Risker|2019-06-27T04:16:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T03:46:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://xkcd.com/1739/"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RainFall|2019-06-27T05:15:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T03:46:00.000Z"></span>Related xkcd</a>. The initial "fix" that caused this seems to be very problematic. Can we not revert back and make a proper, tested patch instead of applying these small hacks repeatedly? —<b style="font-variant: all-small-caps;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RainFall" class="mw-redirect" title="User:RainFall"><b style="background: black; color:white; padding: 1.5px 0 1.5px 4px;">Rain</b></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RainFall" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:RainFall"><b style="background: #545454; color:white; padding: 1.5px 4px 1.5px 0">Fall</b></a></b> 05:15, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RainFall|2019-06-27T05:15:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T03:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T05:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RainFall&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RainFall|2019-06-27T05:15:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T03:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Lugnuts|2019-06-27T06:29:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z"></span>Hi all. I don't know if this is related, but I can't click on the link to my talkpage from the very top bar, it always goes to my notifications. This is in Firefox. <b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lugnuts" title="User:Lugnuts"><font color="002bb8">Lugnuts</font></a></b> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Lugnuts" title="User talk:Lugnuts">Fire Walk with Me</a></sup> 06:29, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Lugnuts|2019-06-27T06:29:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T14:27:00.000Z|Lugnuts|2019-06-27T06:29:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T06:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Lugnuts&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Lugnuts|2019-06-27T06:29:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T14:27:00.000Z|Lugnuts|2019-06-27T06:29:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lugnuts" title="User:Lugnuts">Lugnuts</a>:</span> the 'talk link' problem should be fixed now (at least in monobook).  If you are still seeing it in monobook can you gather some more details: hover over "log out" and look at what the link would be, then slowly move your mouse to the left (over contribus/wl/pref/ etc..) and see if you get sandbox, then your talk link.  If it is out of alignment let us know?  The link to the "user page" is somewhat overlapping with notifications (See above) but should work if you approach it from its left edge. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 14:27, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T14:27:00.000Z|Lugnuts|2019-06-27T06:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T14:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T14:27:00.000Z|Lugnuts|2019-06-27T06:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Lugnuts|2019-06-27T14:29:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z"></span>Thanks Xaosflux, that seems to be OK now. <b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lugnuts" title="User:Lugnuts"><font color="002bb8">Lugnuts</font></a></b> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Lugnuts" title="User talk:Lugnuts">Fire Walk with Me</a></sup> 14:29, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Lugnuts|2019-06-27T14:29:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T15:08:00.000Z|Lugnuts|2019-06-27T14:29:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T14:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Lugnuts&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Lugnuts|2019-06-27T14:29:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T15:08:00.000Z|Lugnuts|2019-06-27T14:29:00.000Z"></span>I've just noticed that "Notices" now fills up most of the space between "DuncanHill" and "Talk", and "Alerts" partially overlaps "DuncanHill". I don't generally notice them unless I actually have an alert or a notice, as I use the blackscreen gadget and the words "Notices" and "Alerts" helpfully display in black text on a black background. Since these recent changes they have started shewing up in orange (like the other links at the top) but only when I point my mouse at them. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 15:08, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T15:08:00.000Z|Lugnuts|2019-06-27T14:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T15:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T15:08:00.000Z|Lugnuts|2019-06-27T14:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
+<dl><dd>Yesterday, when I responded to the thread above ("please ping and thank me"), I looked for this and it wasn't the case, but now it is.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nyttend" title="User talk:Nyttend">talk</a>) 10:53, 26 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-06-26T10:53:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T10:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nyttend&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nyttend|2019-06-26T10:53:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T11:58:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z"></span>I've added <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RainFall" class="mw-redirect" title="User:RainFall">RainFall</a>'s fix temporarily to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Monobook.css" title="MediaWiki:Monobook.css">MediaWiki:Monobook.css</a> after testing locally, revert if any new issues are caused (I tested with both notification types as well). — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 11:58, 26 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T11:58:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T11:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T11:58:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-26T12:00:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z"></span>Does the temporary fix actually work? I've still got the excessive width. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 12:00, 26 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-26T12:00:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T12:01:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-26T12:00:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T12:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-26T12:00:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T12:01:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-26T12:00:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a>:</span> it took a min to update the central css, try force refreshing a page. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 12:01, 26 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T12:01:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-26T12:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-26T12:05:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T21:24:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T12:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T12:01:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-26T12:00:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-26T12:05:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T12:01:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux">Xaosflux</a>:</span> Now working, thank you. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 12:05, 26 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-26T12:05:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T12:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-26T12:05:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T12:01:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T21:24:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T12:01:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux">Xaosflux</a>:</span> Now, when I click on the "talk" link to the right of the notifications, I get the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Notifications" title="Special:Notifications">Special:Notifications</a> popup instead. It looks like the screen-reader text, hidden by <code>color:transparent</code>, is overlapping with the talk link. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User talk:Suffusion of Yellow">talk</a>) 21:24, 26 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T21:24:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T21:37:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T21:24:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T21:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Suffusion of Yellow&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T21:24:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T12:01:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T21:37:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T21:24:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lugnuts" title="User:Lugnuts">Lugnuts</a>,  and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RainFall" class="mw-redirect" title="User:RainFall">RainFall</a>:</span> OK, I reverted the .css in monobook.css, give it a few and see if it fixes that problem (resulting in the original problem) - seems like I'm having to argue with the dev team to get them to understand that the change they made is making the final page worse than before :( — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 21:37, 26 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T21:37:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T21:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T21:38:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T21:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T21:52:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T21:37:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T21:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T21:37:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T21:24:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T21:38:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T21:37:00.000Z"></span>OK Talk is back, but so is super-wide-mode :( — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 21:38, 26 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T21:38:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T21:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T21:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T21:38:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T21:37:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><small><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T21:52:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T21:37:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux">Xaosflux</a>:</span> Argue with the The Knights Who Say "OOUI!"? Good luck! <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User talk:Suffusion of Yellow">talk</a>) 21:52, 26 June 2019 (UTC) </small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T21:52:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T21:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:31:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Killiondude|2019-06-26T22:35:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T21:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Suffusion of Yellow&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T21:52:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T21:37:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:31:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T21:52:00.000Z"></span>I'd like to laugh, but it's so annoying that breaking changes are just rolled out.  If WMF want's to deprecate monobook they need to just say it - else stop breaking it.... — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 22:31, 26 June 2019 (UTC)</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:31:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-26T22:32:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T22:33:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:31:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:31:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T21:52:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-26T22:32:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:31:00.000Z"></span>"Quick - we need a distraction from Framgate, BREAK THINGS!" <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 22:32, 26 June 2019 (UTC)</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-26T22:32:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:41:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-26T22:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T22:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-26T22:32:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:31:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:41:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-26T22:32:00.000Z"></span>please please please, don't feed to conspiracy theorists ... — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 22:41, 26 June 2019 (UTC)<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:41:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-26T22:32:00.000Z"></span></small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:9,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:41:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-26T22:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T22:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T22:33:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:31:00.000Z"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r886049556">.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">deprecate monobook</q>: <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BEANS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BEANS">WP:BEANS</a>! <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User talk:Suffusion of Yellow">talk</a>) 22:33, 26 June 2019 (UTC) </small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T22:33:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-06-27T06:31:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T22:33:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T22:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Suffusion of Yellow&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T22:33:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:31:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-06-27T06:31:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T22:33:00.000Z"></span>"Deprecate" would be too strong a word, but the end of official support for MonoBook was announced about half a dozen years ago.<a class="external autonumber" href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Turning_off_outdated_skins#Why_are_you_keeping_these_four_skins?">[7]</a>  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Whatamidoing_(WMF)" title="User:Whatamidoing (WMF)">Whatamidoing (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Whatamidoing_(WMF)" title="User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF)">talk</a>) 06:31, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:9,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-06-27T06:31:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T22:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T06:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Whatamidoing (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-06-27T06:31:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T22:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Killiondude|2019-06-26T22:35:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T21:52:00.000Z"></span>I suppose I can put that code in my own css file, but I'd prefer that talk page link not to work over the wide screen space. I use trackpad shortcuts to move backward and forward through browser tab history a lot on Wikipedia. Having all the space to the right pretty much disallows moving forward in the history via that shortcut. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Killiondude" title="User:Killiondude">Killiondude</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Killiondude" title="User talk:Killiondude">talk</a>) 22:35, 26 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Killiondude|2019-06-26T22:35:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:42:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-26T22:35:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T22:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Killiondude&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Killiondude|2019-06-26T22:35:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-26T21:52:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:42:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-26T22:35:00.000Z"></span>If someone can come up with another hack for it that doesn't break things I'll happily force it back out there.  — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 22:42, 26 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:42:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-26T22:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:43:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:42:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T22:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:42:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-26T22:35:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:43:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:42:00.000Z"></span>If somehow this breaks the fundraising banner <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Seddon_(WMF)" title="User:Seddon (WMF)">Seddon (WMF)</a> is working on I bet it will get immediate attention...ijs... — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 22:43, 26 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:9,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:43:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-26T22:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:43:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T22:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T03:46:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z"></span>For any of my over-the-top complaining on this, some of it is frustration - but I really would like to thank <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Roan_Kattouw_(WMF)" title="User:Roan Kattouw (WMF)">Catrope</a> for their continuing efforts to resolve this.  Last update, the width problem is fixed, but now there is an alignment issue with the areas to click (you have to click a little further to the left then you used to right now) - this is already reported to phab.  — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 03:46, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T03:46:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Risker|2019-06-27T04:16:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T03:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|RainFall|2019-06-27T05:15:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T03:46:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T03:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T03:46:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Risker|2019-06-27T04:16:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T03:46:00.000Z"></span>Ah, I was wondering about that. I was trying to get to my userpage from the link at the top, and kept getting info about notifications... <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Risker" title="User:Risker">Risker</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Risker" title="User talk:Risker">talk</a>) 04:16, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Risker|2019-06-27T04:16:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T03:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T04:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Risker&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Risker|2019-06-27T04:16:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T03:46:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://xkcd.com/1739/"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RainFall|2019-06-27T05:15:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T03:46:00.000Z"></span>Related xkcd</a>. The initial "fix" that caused this seems to be very problematic. Can we not revert back and make a proper, tested patch instead of applying these small hacks repeatedly? —<b style="font-variant: all-small-caps;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RainFall" class="mw-redirect" title="User:RainFall"><b style="background: black; color:white; padding: 1.5px 0 1.5px 4px;">Rain</b></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RainFall" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:RainFall"><b style="background: #545454; color:white; padding: 1.5px 4px 1.5px 0">Fall</b></a></b> 05:15, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RainFall|2019-06-27T05:15:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T03:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T05:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RainFall&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RainFall|2019-06-27T05:15:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T03:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Lugnuts|2019-06-27T06:29:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z"></span>Hi all. I don't know if this is related, but I can't click on the link to my talkpage from the very top bar, it always goes to my notifications. This is in Firefox. <b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lugnuts" title="User:Lugnuts"><font color="002bb8">Lugnuts</font></a></b> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Lugnuts" title="User talk:Lugnuts">Fire Walk with Me</a></sup> 06:29, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Lugnuts|2019-06-27T06:29:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T14:27:00.000Z|Lugnuts|2019-06-27T06:29:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T06:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Lugnuts&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Lugnuts|2019-06-27T06:29:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T14:27:00.000Z|Lugnuts|2019-06-27T06:29:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lugnuts" title="User:Lugnuts">Lugnuts</a>:</span> the 'talk link' problem should be fixed now (at least in monobook).  If you are still seeing it in monobook can you gather some more details: hover over "log out" and look at what the link would be, then slowly move your mouse to the left (over contribus/wl/pref/ etc..) and see if you get sandbox, then your talk link.  If it is out of alignment let us know?  The link to the "user page" is somewhat overlapping with notifications (See above) but should work if you approach it from its left edge. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 14:27, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T14:27:00.000Z|Lugnuts|2019-06-27T06:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T14:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T14:27:00.000Z|Lugnuts|2019-06-27T06:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Lugnuts|2019-06-27T14:29:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z"></span>Thanks Xaosflux, that seems to be OK now. <b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lugnuts" title="User:Lugnuts"><font color="002bb8">Lugnuts</font></a></b> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Lugnuts" title="User talk:Lugnuts">Fire Walk with Me</a></sup> 14:29, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Lugnuts|2019-06-27T14:29:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T15:08:00.000Z|Lugnuts|2019-06-27T14:29:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T14:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Lugnuts&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Lugnuts|2019-06-27T14:29:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T15:08:00.000Z|Lugnuts|2019-06-27T14:29:00.000Z"></span>I've just noticed that "Notices" now fills up most of the space between "DuncanHill" and "Talk", and "Alerts" partially overlaps "DuncanHill". I don't generally notice them unless I actually have an alert or a notice, as I use the blackscreen gadget and the words "Notices" and "Alerts" helpfully display in black text on a black background. Since these recent changes they have started shewing up in orange (like the other links at the top) but only when I point my mouse at them. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 15:08, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T15:08:00.000Z|Lugnuts|2019-06-27T14:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T15:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T15:08:00.000Z|Lugnuts|2019-06-27T14:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
 <dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T21:33:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux">Xaosflux</a>:</span> This fixes all the overlap issues for me, in FF67/Linux: <div class="mw-highlight mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"><pre><span></span><span class="p">#</span><span class="nn">pt-notifications-notice</span> <span class="p">.</span><span class="nc">mw-echo-notifications-badge</span><span class="o">,</span> <span class="p">#</span><span class="nn">pt-notifications-alert</span> <span class="p">.</span><span class="nc">mw-echo-notifications-badge</span> <span class="p">{</span>
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-</pre></div> I don't know why; I was just trying things at random. Might be worth trying in some other browsers. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User talk:Suffusion of Yellow">talk</a>) 21:33, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T21:33:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Killiondude|2019-06-27T22:00:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T21:33:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T21:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Suffusion of Yellow&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T21:33:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Killiondude|2019-06-27T22:00:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T21:33:00.000Z"></span>This code fixes all the things for me. :) Before inserting this, I couldn't access "alerts" (the bell) only "notifications" (the inbox icon). <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Killiondude" title="User:Killiondude">Killiondude</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Killiondude" title="User talk:Killiondude">talk</a>) 22:00, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Killiondude|2019-06-27T22:00:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T21:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T22:18:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-27T22:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T22:24:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-27T22:00:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T22:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Killiondude&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Killiondude|2019-06-27T22:00:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T21:33:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T22:18:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-27T22:00:00.000Z"></span>I noted it at <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T226594" class="extiw" title="phab:T226594">phab:T226594</a> to see if there will be an upstream fix before we start band-aiding again. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 22:18, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T22:18:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-27T22:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T22:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T22:18:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-27T22:00:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T22:24:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-27T22:00:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a>:</span> That stops the overlap, but the text stays black when I point at it. Could someone thank and/or/ping me so I can see what it looks like then? Thanks, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 22:24, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T22:24:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-27T22:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T22:26:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T22:24:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T22:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T22:24:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-27T22:00:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T22:26:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T22:24:00.000Z"></span>User:DuncanHill</a>, you annoy.---<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sluzzelin" title="User:Sluzzelin">Sluzzelin</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Sluzzelin" title="User talk:Sluzzelin"><small>talk</small></a> 22:26, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T22:26:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T22:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T22:28:00.000Z|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T22:26:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T22:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Sluzzelin&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T22:26:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T22:24:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T22:28:00.000Z|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T22:26:00.000Z"></span>Thanks both, thanks and pings seem to shew up well and be clickable. Someday I'll get around to mentioning the incompatibility with the blackscreen gadget. I have to highlight the notification to read who it's from. But that's been like that for ever. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 22:28, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T22:28:00.000Z|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T22:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T22:34:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T22:28:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T22:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T22:28:00.000Z|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T22:26:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T22:34:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T22:28:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a>:</span> Ideally, that should go in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MyPage/monobook.css" title="Special:MyPage/monobook.css">Special:MyPage/monobook.css</a> instead of <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MyPage/common.css" title="Special:MyPage/common.css">Special:MyPage/common.css</a>, not I think it will make a big difference. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User talk:Suffusion of Yellow">talk</a>) 22:34, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T22:34:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T22:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T22:40:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T22:34:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T22:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Suffusion of Yellow&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T22:34:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T22:28:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T22:40:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T22:34:00.000Z"></span>Thanks again, have moved it over. Seems to be much the same effect. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 22:40, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:9,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T22:40:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T22:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T22:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T22:40:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T22:34:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+</pre></div> I don't know why; I was just trying things at random. Might be worth trying in some other browsers. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User talk:Suffusion of Yellow">talk</a>) 21:33, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T21:33:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Killiondude|2019-06-27T22:00:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T21:33:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T21:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Suffusion of Yellow&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T21:33:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-26T03:14:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Killiondude|2019-06-27T22:00:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T21:33:00.000Z"></span>This code fixes all the things for me. :) Before inserting this, I couldn't access "alerts" (the bell) only "notifications" (the inbox icon). <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Killiondude" title="User:Killiondude">Killiondude</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Killiondude" title="User talk:Killiondude">talk</a>) 22:00, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Killiondude|2019-06-27T22:00:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T21:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T22:18:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-27T22:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T22:24:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-27T22:00:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T22:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Killiondude&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Killiondude|2019-06-27T22:00:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T21:33:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T22:18:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-27T22:00:00.000Z"></span>I noted it at <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T226594" class="extiw" title="phab:T226594">phab:T226594</a> to see if there will be an upstream fix before we start band-aiding again. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 22:18, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T22:18:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-27T22:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T22:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T22:18:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-27T22:00:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T22:24:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-27T22:00:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a>:</span> That stops the overlap, but the text stays black when I point at it. Could someone thank and/or/ping me so I can see what it looks like then? Thanks, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 22:24, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T22:24:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-27T22:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T22:26:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T22:24:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T22:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T22:24:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-27T22:00:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T22:26:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T22:24:00.000Z"></span>User:DuncanHill</a>, you annoy.---<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sluzzelin" title="User:Sluzzelin">Sluzzelin</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Sluzzelin" title="User talk:Sluzzelin"><small>talk</small></a> 22:26, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T22:26:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T22:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T22:28:00.000Z|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T22:26:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T22:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Sluzzelin&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T22:26:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T22:24:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T22:28:00.000Z|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T22:26:00.000Z"></span>Thanks both, thanks and pings seem to shew up well and be clickable. Someday I'll get around to mentioning the incompatibility with the blackscreen gadget. I have to highlight the notification to read who it's from. But that's been like that for ever. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 22:28, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T22:28:00.000Z|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T22:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T22:34:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T22:28:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T22:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T22:28:00.000Z|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T22:26:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T22:34:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T22:28:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a>:</span> Ideally, that should go in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MyPage/monobook.css" title="Special:MyPage/monobook.css">Special:MyPage/monobook.css</a> instead of <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MyPage/common.css" title="Special:MyPage/common.css">Special:MyPage/common.css</a>, not I think it will make a big difference. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User talk:Suffusion of Yellow">talk</a>) 22:34, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T22:34:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T22:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T22:40:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T22:34:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T22:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Suffusion of Yellow&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T22:34:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T22:28:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T22:40:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T22:34:00.000Z"></span>Thanks again, have moved it over. Seems to be much the same effect. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 22:40, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:9,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T22:40:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T22:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T22:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T22:40:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T22:34:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h3><span id="Message_.26_notification_icons_in_Modern_skin"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Message_&amp;_notification_icons_in_Modern_skin" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Message_&amp;_notification_icons_in_Modern_skin|Issues_with_alerts,_June_2019|2019-06-27T14:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nthep|2019-06-27T14:52:00.000Z|Message_&amp;_notification_icons_in_Modern_skin&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:3,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Message_&amp;_notification_icons_in_Modern_skin|Issues_with_alerts,_June_2019|2019-06-27T14:52:00.000Z"></span>Message &amp; notification icons in Modern skin<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Message_&amp;_notification_icons_in_Modern_skin|Issues_with_alerts,_June_2019|2019-06-27T14:52:00.000Z"></span></span></h3>
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-<p>The message &amp; notification icons in the modern skin seem to have been changed to something less than ideal.  Any recent changes to the stylesheet that would have made this happen? FWIW browser is latest version of Firefox (67.0.4). <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nthep" title="User:Nthep">Nthep</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nthep" title="User talk:Nthep">talk</a>) 14:52, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nthep|2019-06-27T14:52:00.000Z|Message_&amp;_notification_icons_in_Modern_skin&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T14:57:00.000Z|Nthep|2019-06-27T14:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T14:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nthep&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nthep|2019-06-27T14:52:00.000Z|Message_&amp;_notification_icons_in_Modern_skin"></span>
+<p>The message &amp; notification icons in the modern skin seem to have been changed to something less than ideal.  Any recent changes to the stylesheet that would have made this happen? FWIW browser is latest version of Firefox (67.0.4). <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nthep" title="User:Nthep">Nthep</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nthep" title="User talk:Nthep">talk</a>) 14:52, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nthep|2019-06-27T14:52:00.000Z|Message_&amp;_notification_icons_in_Modern_skin&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T14:57:00.000Z|Nthep|2019-06-27T14:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T14:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nthep&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nthep|2019-06-27T14:52:00.000Z|Message_&amp;_notification_icons_in_Modern_skin"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T14:57:00.000Z|Nthep|2019-06-27T14:52:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nthep" title="User:Nthep">Nthep</a>:</span> - so in summary - there is a bunch going on and this is coming from upstream not local styles.  See <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T226684" class="extiw" title="phab:T226684">phab:T226684</a> (and some of the discussion at <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T226594" class="extiw" title="phab:T226594">phab:T226594</a>) to catch up on the goings-on. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 14:57, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T14:57:00.000Z|Nthep|2019-06-27T14:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nthep|2019-06-27T15:10:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T14:57:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T14:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T14:57:00.000Z|Nthep|2019-06-27T14:52:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nthep|2019-06-27T15:10:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T14:57:00.000Z"></span>Thanks. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nthep" title="User:Nthep">Nthep</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nthep" title="User talk:Nthep">talk</a>) 15:10, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nthep|2019-06-27T15:10:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T14:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Isarra|2019-07-01T15:55:00.000Z|Nthep|2019-06-27T15:10:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T15:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nthep&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nthep|2019-06-27T15:10:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T14:57:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Isarra|2019-07-01T15:55:00.000Z|Nthep|2019-06-27T15:10:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nthep" title="User:Nthep">Nthep</a>:</span> Same as the monobook issues, should be fully fixed at the end of the week/next week depending on how they're doing deployments. Unless you don't like how we fixed it once it does change, in which case do please tell me. -— <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Isarra" title="User:Isarra">Isarra</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Isarra" title="User talk:Isarra">༆</a> 15:55, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Isarra|2019-07-01T15:55:00.000Z|Nthep|2019-06-27T15:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T15:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Isarra&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Isarra|2019-07-01T15:55:00.000Z|Nthep|2019-06-27T15:10:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T14:57:00.000Z|Nthep|2019-06-27T14:52:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nthep" title="User:Nthep">Nthep</a>:</span> - so in summary - there is a bunch going on and this is coming from upstream not local styles.  See <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T226684" class="extiw" title="phab:T226684">phab:T226684</a> (and some of the discussion at <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T226594" class="extiw" title="phab:T226594">phab:T226594</a>) to catch up on the goings-on. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 14:57, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T14:57:00.000Z|Nthep|2019-06-27T14:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nthep|2019-06-27T15:10:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T14:57:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T14:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T14:57:00.000Z|Nthep|2019-06-27T14:52:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nthep|2019-06-27T15:10:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T14:57:00.000Z"></span>Thanks. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nthep" title="User:Nthep">Nthep</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nthep" title="User talk:Nthep">talk</a>) 15:10, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nthep|2019-06-27T15:10:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T14:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Isarra|2019-07-01T15:55:00.000Z|Nthep|2019-06-27T15:10:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T15:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nthep&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nthep|2019-06-27T15:10:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T14:57:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Isarra|2019-07-01T15:55:00.000Z|Nthep|2019-06-27T15:10:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nthep" title="User:Nthep">Nthep</a>:</span> Same as the monobook issues, should be fully fixed at the end of the week/next week depending on how they're doing deployments. Unless you don't like how we fixed it once it does change, in which case do please tell me. -— <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Isarra" title="User:Isarra">Isarra</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Isarra" title="User talk:Isarra">༆</a> 15:55, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Isarra|2019-07-01T15:55:00.000Z|Nthep|2019-06-27T15:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T15:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Isarra&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Isarra|2019-07-01T15:55:00.000Z|Nthep|2019-06-27T15:10:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T20:53:00.000Z|Someone_has_broken_Thanks"></span>Now when I thank someone, instead of it happening all in the history page, it takes me to another  page to ask me if I want to thank them, then to yet another page saying I have thanked them, and leaves me there and not where I was to start with and with no apparent way back. I expect it's an "improvement", but it makes life harder. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 20:53, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T20:53:00.000Z|Someone_has_broken_Thanks&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T20:58:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T20:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T20:59:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T20:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Maile66|2019-06-27T21:00:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T20:53:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T20:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T20:53:00.000Z|Someone_has_broken_Thanks"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T20:53:00.000Z|Someone_has_broken_Thanks"></span>Now when I thank someone, instead of it happening all in the history page, it takes me to another  page to ask me if I want to thank them, then to yet another page saying I have thanked them, and leaves me there and not where I was to start with and with no apparent way back. I expect it's an "improvement", but it makes life harder. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 20:53, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T20:53:00.000Z|Someone_has_broken_Thanks&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T20:58:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T20:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T20:59:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T20:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Maile66|2019-06-27T21:00:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T20:53:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T20:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T20:53:00.000Z|Someone_has_broken_Thanks"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T20:58:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T20:53:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a>:</span> Works normally for me. What you are describing is the expected behavior if you have JavaScript disabled. It is possible that the JS for the "thanks" feature didn't load properly. Try <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BYPASS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BYPASS">WP:BYPASS</a>, and see if it works again. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User talk:Suffusion of Yellow">talk</a>) 20:58, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T20:58:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T20:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T20:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Suffusion of Yellow&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T20:58:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T20:53:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T20:59:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T20:53:00.000Z"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Pictogram_voting_support.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_support.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Pictogram_voting_support.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_support.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Pictogram_voting_support.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_support.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="249" data-file-height="249"/> <b>Works for me</b> - but the servers were just also having some hiccups, can you try again? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 20:59, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T20:59:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T20:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T20:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T20:59:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T20:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Maile66|2019-06-27T21:00:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T20:53:00.000Z"></span>I've been having intermittent weirdness of another type.  On "Show preview", I've been getting a message that the servers are busy.  If I refresh, it works fine.  But the error has repeated numerous times today.  I've been wondering if it's the new version of MediaWiki that Tech News mentioned would be on all wikis as of today. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Maile66" title="User:Maile66">— Maile </a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Maile66" title="User talk:Maile66">talk</a>) 21:00, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Maile66|2019-06-27T21:00:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T20:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:03:00.000Z|Maile66|2019-06-27T21:00:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T21:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Maile66&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Maile66|2019-06-27T21:00:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T20:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:03:00.000Z|Maile66|2019-06-27T21:00:00.000Z"></span>(ec)I went back and in the page history it did not shew me as having thanked the person I had thanked. I tried again, nothing happened, then tried again and it behaved normally. I think there's a log somewhere where I can see if it went through, but can't remember where. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 21:03, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:03:00.000Z|Maile66|2019-06-27T21:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:06:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:20:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:03:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T21:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:03:00.000Z|Maile66|2019-06-27T21:00:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:06:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:03:00.000Z"></span>Hah! I found the thanks log, it's shewing me as having made the first thanks before I posted here, but not the second when I tried again. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 21:06, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:06:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T21:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:06:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:20:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:03:00.000Z"></span>This is not about thanks (I think), but I got first one, then two notifications today for apparently nothing. I mean, there's a little red "2" in the usual place, but when I look there's nothing new there. I think the second one may have been for AGK's mention of me <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case&amp;diff=903769139&amp;oldid=903769067">here</a>, since it turned up right as I was reading his motion, but I've no idea what the first one is. Anybody know what's going on? If an arb offers a motion to examine my conduct, and has as far as he knows pinged me about it, it would be nice to <i>get</i> that ping. Can I go somewhere to find it? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a> | <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bishonen" title="User talk:Bishonen">talk</a> 21:20, 27 June 2019 (UTC).<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:20:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:26:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:20:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T21:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bishonen&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:20:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:26:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:20:00.000Z"></span>There's a Thanks log at <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=thanks&amp;user=&amp;page=&amp;wpdate=&amp;tagfilter=&amp;subtype=">this link</a>. I don't think there's a ping log. People shouldn't rely on pings as 1) they don't always work at the best of times, 2) it's very rarely the best of times, and 3) I think you can turn notifications off. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 21:26, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:26:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T21:27:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T21:31:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:26:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T21:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:26:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T21:27:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:26:00.000Z"></span>There was a recent problem with notification (at least in Monobook) see <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Missing_notification_icons_in_MonoBook" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)">here (look above)</a>, but I don't know whether there's a connection. I will henceforth thank and revert and ping users profusely and see how they react. ---<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sluzzelin" title="User:Sluzzelin">Sluzzelin</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Sluzzelin" title="User talk:Sluzzelin"><small>talk</small></a> 21:27, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T21:27:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T21:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Sluzzelin&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T21:27:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:26:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T21:31:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:26:00.000Z"></span>Duncan, you better stop thanking me, or I will report you to ... ---<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sluzzelin" title="User:Sluzzelin">Sluzzelin</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Sluzzelin" title="User talk:Sluzzelin"><small>talk</small></a> 21:31, 27 June 2019 (UTC)</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T21:31:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:32:00.000Z|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T21:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:34:00.000Z|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T21:31:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T21:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Sluzzelin&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T21:31:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:26:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:32:00.000Z|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T21:31:00.000Z"></span>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Edit_conflict" title="Help:Edit conflict">edit conflict</a>)</small> <small>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Edit_conflict" title="Help:Edit conflict">edit conflict</a>)</small> <small>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Edit_conflict" title="Help:Edit conflict">edit conflict</a>)</small> I use Monobook, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sluzzelin" title="User:Sluzzelin">Sluzzelin</a>, I'm old school. You know what? I just realized that the little notifications digit — the red one — shows the thanks I've got, just like the blue digit does. So, I get thanks twice, and notifications never. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a> | <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bishonen" title="User talk:Bishonen">talk</a> 21:32, 27 June 2019 (UTC).<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:32:00.000Z|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T21:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Cryptic|2019-06-27T21:57:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T21:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bishonen&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:32:00.000Z|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T21:31:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Cryptic|2019-06-27T21:57:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:32:00.000Z"></span>You can get a complete list of current and past notifications at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Notifications" title="Special:Notifications">Special:Notifications</a> (which, frustratingly, works much better with javascript disabled).  Doesn't help you realize there's new ones there if the main notice is broken, though. —<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cryptic" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Cryptic">Cryptic</a> 21:57, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Cryptic|2019-06-27T21:57:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T21:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Cryptic&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Cryptic|2019-06-27T21:57:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><small><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:34:00.000Z|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T21:31:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sluzzelin" title="User:Sluzzelin">Sluzzelin</a>:</span> Wilco! <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 21:34, 27 June 2019 (UTC)</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:34:00.000Z|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T21:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|BlackcurrantTea|2019-06-28T07:48:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:34:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T21:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:34:00.000Z|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T21:31:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|BlackcurrantTea|2019-06-28T07:48:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:34:00.000Z"></span>Bishonen</a>, this happened to me (also a Monobook user) when someone replied to me in a topic which was archived in the time between their reply and when I saw the notification. Ever since then, whenever I go to a wiki project for the first time, there's a red number for notifications, even when there are none (because the default preference is to show cross-wiki notifications). On the bright side, I can always tell if it's my first visit to a project. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BlackcurrantTea" title="User:BlackcurrantTea">BlackcurrantTea</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:BlackcurrantTea" title="User talk:BlackcurrantTea">talk</a>) 07:48, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|BlackcurrantTea|2019-06-28T07:48:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Bishonen|2019-06-28T08:06:00.000Z|BlackcurrantTea|2019-06-28T07:48:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T07:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;BlackcurrantTea&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|BlackcurrantTea|2019-06-28T07:48:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:34:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bishonen|2019-06-28T08:06:00.000Z|BlackcurrantTea|2019-06-28T07:48:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BlackcurrantTea" title="User:BlackcurrantTea">BlackcurrantTea</a>:</span>, my problem was solved by a kindly techy type in <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Missing_notification_icons_in_MonoBook">a thread above</a>. I don't know if the same magic would help you, but it's probably worth trying. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a> | <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bishonen" title="User talk:Bishonen">talk</a> 08:06, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:9,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bishonen|2019-06-28T08:06:00.000Z|BlackcurrantTea|2019-06-28T07:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|BlackcurrantTea|2019-06-28T08:36:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-28T08:06:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T08:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bishonen&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bishonen|2019-06-28T08:06:00.000Z|BlackcurrantTea|2019-06-28T07:48:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|BlackcurrantTea|2019-06-28T08:36:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-28T08:06:00.000Z"></span>Bishonen</a>, thanks for the tip. That doesn't make a difference in my case, but it's not really a problem. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BlackcurrantTea" title="User:BlackcurrantTea">BlackcurrantTea</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:BlackcurrantTea" title="User talk:BlackcurrantTea">talk</a>) 08:36, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:10,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|BlackcurrantTea|2019-06-28T08:36:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-28T08:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T08:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;BlackcurrantTea&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|BlackcurrantTea|2019-06-28T08:36:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-28T08:06:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T20:58:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T20:53:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a>:</span> Works normally for me. What you are describing is the expected behavior if you have JavaScript disabled. It is possible that the JS for the "thanks" feature didn't load properly. Try <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BYPASS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BYPASS">WP:BYPASS</a>, and see if it works again. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User talk:Suffusion of Yellow">talk</a>) 20:58, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T20:58:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T20:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T20:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Suffusion of Yellow&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-27T20:58:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T20:53:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T20:59:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T20:53:00.000Z"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Pictogram_voting_support.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_support.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Pictogram_voting_support.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_support.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Pictogram_voting_support.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_support.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="249" data-file-height="249"/> <b>Works for me</b> - but the servers were just also having some hiccups, can you try again? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 20:59, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T20:59:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T20:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T20:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-27T20:59:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T20:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Maile66|2019-06-27T21:00:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T20:53:00.000Z"></span>I've been having intermittent weirdness of another type.  On "Show preview", I've been getting a message that the servers are busy.  If I refresh, it works fine.  But the error has repeated numerous times today.  I've been wondering if it's the new version of MediaWiki that Tech News mentioned would be on all wikis as of today. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Maile66" title="User:Maile66">— Maile </a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Maile66" title="User talk:Maile66">talk</a>) 21:00, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Maile66|2019-06-27T21:00:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T20:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:03:00.000Z|Maile66|2019-06-27T21:00:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T21:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Maile66&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Maile66|2019-06-27T21:00:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T20:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:03:00.000Z|Maile66|2019-06-27T21:00:00.000Z"></span>(ec)I went back and in the page history it did not shew me as having thanked the person I had thanked. I tried again, nothing happened, then tried again and it behaved normally. I think there's a log somewhere where I can see if it went through, but can't remember where. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 21:03, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:03:00.000Z|Maile66|2019-06-27T21:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:06:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:20:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:03:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T21:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:03:00.000Z|Maile66|2019-06-27T21:00:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:06:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:03:00.000Z"></span>Hah! I found the thanks log, it's shewing me as having made the first thanks before I posted here, but not the second when I tried again. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 21:06, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:06:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T21:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:06:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:20:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:03:00.000Z"></span>This is not about thanks (I think), but I got first one, then two notifications today for apparently nothing. I mean, there's a little red "2" in the usual place, but when I look there's nothing new there. I think the second one may have been for AGK's mention of me <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case&amp;diff=903769139&amp;oldid=903769067">here</a>, since it turned up right as I was reading his motion, but I've no idea what the first one is. Anybody know what's going on? If an arb offers a motion to examine my conduct, and has as far as he knows pinged me about it, it would be nice to <i>get</i> that ping. Can I go somewhere to find it? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a> | <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bishonen" title="User talk:Bishonen">talk</a> 21:20, 27 June 2019 (UTC).<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:20:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:26:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:20:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T21:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bishonen&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:20:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:26:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:20:00.000Z"></span>There's a Thanks log at <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=thanks&amp;user=&amp;page=&amp;wpdate=&amp;tagfilter=&amp;subtype=">this link</a>. I don't think there's a ping log. People shouldn't rely on pings as 1) they don't always work at the best of times, 2) it's very rarely the best of times, and 3) I think you can turn notifications off. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 21:26, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:26:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T21:27:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T21:31:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:26:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T21:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:26:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T21:27:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:26:00.000Z"></span>There was a recent problem with notification (at least in Monobook) see <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Missing_notification_icons_in_MonoBook" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)">here (look above)</a>, but I don't know whether there's a connection. I will henceforth thank and revert and ping users profusely and see how they react. ---<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sluzzelin" title="User:Sluzzelin">Sluzzelin</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Sluzzelin" title="User talk:Sluzzelin"><small>talk</small></a> 21:27, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T21:27:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T21:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Sluzzelin&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T21:27:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:26:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T21:31:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:26:00.000Z"></span>Duncan, you better stop thanking me, or I will report you to ... ---<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sluzzelin" title="User:Sluzzelin">Sluzzelin</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Sluzzelin" title="User talk:Sluzzelin"><small>talk</small></a> 21:31, 27 June 2019 (UTC)</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T21:31:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:32:00.000Z|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T21:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:34:00.000Z|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T21:31:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T21:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Sluzzelin&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T21:31:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:26:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:32:00.000Z|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T21:31:00.000Z"></span>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Edit_conflict" title="Help:Edit conflict">edit conflict</a>)</small> <small>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Edit_conflict" title="Help:Edit conflict">edit conflict</a>)</small> <small>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Edit_conflict" title="Help:Edit conflict">edit conflict</a>)</small> I use Monobook, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sluzzelin" title="User:Sluzzelin">Sluzzelin</a>, I'm old school. You know what? I just realized that the little notifications digit — the red one — shows the thanks I've got, just like the blue digit does. So, I get thanks twice, and notifications never. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a> | <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bishonen" title="User talk:Bishonen">talk</a> 21:32, 27 June 2019 (UTC).<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:32:00.000Z|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T21:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Cryptic|2019-06-27T21:57:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T21:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bishonen&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:32:00.000Z|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T21:31:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Cryptic|2019-06-27T21:57:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:32:00.000Z"></span>You can get a complete list of current and past notifications at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Notifications" title="Special:Notifications">Special:Notifications</a> (which, frustratingly, works much better with javascript disabled).  Doesn't help you realize there's new ones there if the main notice is broken, though. —<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cryptic" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Cryptic">Cryptic</a> 21:57, 27 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Cryptic|2019-06-27T21:57:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T21:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Cryptic&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Cryptic|2019-06-27T21:57:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-27T21:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><small><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:34:00.000Z|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T21:31:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sluzzelin" title="User:Sluzzelin">Sluzzelin</a>:</span> Wilco! <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 21:34, 27 June 2019 (UTC)</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:34:00.000Z|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T21:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|BlackcurrantTea|2019-06-28T07:48:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:34:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-27T21:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:34:00.000Z|Sluzzelin|2019-06-27T21:31:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|BlackcurrantTea|2019-06-28T07:48:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:34:00.000Z"></span>Bishonen</a>, this happened to me (also a Monobook user) when someone replied to me in a topic which was archived in the time between their reply and when I saw the notification. Ever since then, whenever I go to a wiki project for the first time, there's a red number for notifications, even when there are none (because the default preference is to show cross-wiki notifications). On the bright side, I can always tell if it's my first visit to a project. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BlackcurrantTea" title="User:BlackcurrantTea">BlackcurrantTea</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:BlackcurrantTea" title="User talk:BlackcurrantTea">talk</a>) 07:48, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|BlackcurrantTea|2019-06-28T07:48:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Bishonen|2019-06-28T08:06:00.000Z|BlackcurrantTea|2019-06-28T07:48:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T07:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;BlackcurrantTea&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|BlackcurrantTea|2019-06-28T07:48:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-06-27T21:34:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bishonen|2019-06-28T08:06:00.000Z|BlackcurrantTea|2019-06-28T07:48:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BlackcurrantTea" title="User:BlackcurrantTea">BlackcurrantTea</a>:</span>, my problem was solved by a kindly techy type in <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Missing_notification_icons_in_MonoBook">a thread above</a>. I don't know if the same magic would help you, but it's probably worth trying. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a> | <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bishonen" title="User talk:Bishonen">talk</a> 08:06, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:9,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bishonen|2019-06-28T08:06:00.000Z|BlackcurrantTea|2019-06-28T07:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|BlackcurrantTea|2019-06-28T08:36:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-28T08:06:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T08:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bishonen&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bishonen|2019-06-28T08:06:00.000Z|BlackcurrantTea|2019-06-28T07:48:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|BlackcurrantTea|2019-06-28T08:36:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-28T08:06:00.000Z"></span>Bishonen</a>, thanks for the tip. That doesn't make a difference in my case, but it's not really a problem. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BlackcurrantTea" title="User:BlackcurrantTea">BlackcurrantTea</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:BlackcurrantTea" title="User talk:BlackcurrantTea">talk</a>) 08:36, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:10,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|BlackcurrantTea|2019-06-28T08:36:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-28T08:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T08:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;BlackcurrantTea&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|BlackcurrantTea|2019-06-28T08:36:00.000Z|Bishonen|2019-06-28T08:06:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h3><span id="Stuck_alert.2Fnotification"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Stuck_alert/notification" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Stuck_alert\/notification|Issues_with_alerts,_June_2019|2019-06-28T03:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T03:19:00.000Z|Stuck_alert\/notification&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:3,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Stuck_alert/notification|Issues_with_alerts,_June_2019|2019-06-28T03:19:00.000Z"></span>Stuck alert/notification<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Stuck_alert/notification|Issues_with_alerts,_June_2019|2019-06-28T03:19:00.000Z"></span></span></h3>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T03:19:00.000Z|Stuck_alert/notification"></span>At the top of every Wikipedia page I open are my control tabs: Username, Alerts, Notifications, Talk, Sandbox, Preferences, Beta, Watchlist, Contributions, Log out.
 </p><p>There is a red number over my Alerts tab, and the tab isn't working. When I click on it, it shows all the Notifications, as does the Notifications tab.
-</p><p>I can't get rid of that red number. It has worked fine until today. Help! -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BullRangifer" title="User:BullRangifer">BullRangifer</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:BullRangifer" title="User talk:BullRangifer">talk</a>) 03:19, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T03:19:00.000Z|Stuck_alert\/notification&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Killiondude|2019-06-28T03:23:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T03:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-06-28T19:12:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T03:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-28T20:19:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T03:19:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T03:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;BullRangifer&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T03:19:00.000Z|Stuck_alert/notification"></span>
+</p><p>I can't get rid of that red number. It has worked fine until today. Help! -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BullRangifer" title="User:BullRangifer">BullRangifer</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:BullRangifer" title="User talk:BullRangifer">talk</a>) 03:19, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T03:19:00.000Z|Stuck_alert\/notification&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Killiondude|2019-06-28T03:23:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T03:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-06-28T19:12:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T03:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-28T20:19:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T03:19:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T03:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;BullRangifer&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T03:19:00.000Z|Stuck_alert/notification"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Killiondude|2019-06-28T03:23:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T03:19:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BullRangifer" title="User:BullRangifer">BullRangifer</a>:</span> do you use Monobook for your skin? If so, see <a href="#Excessive_width_on_monobook">#Excessive width on monobook</a> and specifically the last bit of code given that you can put into your css file to fix what the devs broke in the skin. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Killiondude" title="User:Killiondude">Killiondude</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Killiondude" title="User talk:Killiondude">talk</a>) 03:23, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Killiondude|2019-06-28T03:23:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T03:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T06:53:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-28T03:23:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T03:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Killiondude&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Killiondude|2019-06-28T03:23:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T03:19:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T06:53:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-28T03:23:00.000Z"></span>Still a problem. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BullRangifer" title="User:BullRangifer">BullRangifer</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:BullRangifer" title="User talk:BullRangifer">talk</a>) 06:53, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T06:53:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-28T03:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-06-28T11:05:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T06:53:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T06:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;BullRangifer&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T06:53:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-28T03:23:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-06-28T11:05:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T06:53:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BullRangifer" title="User:BullRangifer">BullRangifer</a>:</span> The problem is that although the bell and TV set icons are still links, their hotspots have shifted to the left by about their own width plus a bit more. So the TV set's hotspot is now where the bell is displayed. Therefore, to activate the bell, you click a little to its left - just over the letters "fer" should do it. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 11:05, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-06-28T11:05:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T06:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-28T11:07:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-06-28T11:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T14:18:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-06-28T11:05:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T11:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-06-28T11:05:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T06:53:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-28T11:07:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-06-28T11:05:00.000Z"></span>Several patches for this were worked on and hopefully it will be fixed very soon! — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 11:07, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-28T11:07:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-06-28T11:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T11:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-28T11:07:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-06-28T11:05:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T14:18:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-06-28T11:05:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64">Redrose64</a>:</span>, you're right! That's exactly what's happened. When will this be fixed? -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BullRangifer" title="User:BullRangifer">BullRangifer</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:BullRangifer" title="User talk:BullRangifer">talk</a>) 14:18, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T14:18:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-06-28T11:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-28T17:45:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T14:18:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T14:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;BullRangifer&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T14:18:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-06-28T11:05:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-28T17:45:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T14:18:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BullRangifer" title="User:BullRangifer">BullRangifer</a>:</span> My "fix" (developed using the tried-and-true <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://xkcd.com/627/">XKCD method</a>) should work, but you need to put it in your <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MyPage/monobook.css" title="Special:MyPage/monobook.css">monobook.css</a>, not your <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MyPage/monobook.js" title="Special:MyPage/monobook.js">monobook.js</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Isarra" title="User:Isarra">Isarra</a> has <a class="external text" href="https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/mediawiki/skins/MonoBook/+/519587/">submitted a patch</a> which should fix this on all wikis, but it hasn't been reviewed yet and I don't know how long it will take to be merged. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User talk:Suffusion of Yellow">talk</a>) 17:45, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-28T17:45:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T14:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T20:11:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-28T17:45:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T17:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Suffusion of Yellow&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-28T17:45:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T14:18:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T20:11:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-28T17:45:00.000Z"></span>I don't have that subpage, but I'll create it and give it a try there. Thanks. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BullRangifer" title="User:BullRangifer">BullRangifer</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:BullRangifer" title="User talk:BullRangifer">talk</a>) 20:11, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T20:11:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-28T17:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T20:14:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T20:11:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T20:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;BullRangifer&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T20:11:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-28T17:45:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T20:14:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T20:11:00.000Z"></span>That worked instantly! -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BullRangifer" title="User:BullRangifer">BullRangifer</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:BullRangifer" title="User talk:BullRangifer">talk</a>) 20:14, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T20:14:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T20:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T20:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;BullRangifer&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T20:14:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T20:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-06-28T19:12:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T03:19:00.000Z"></span>I've worked out why the hotspots are overwide and overlapping. Whilst looking at DuncanHill's (unrelated) Blackskin problem with that gadget enabled, I happened to hover over the alerts icons - and behold! the text links "Alerts (1)" or "Notices (1)" become visible. It is those textual items that are invisibly appearing in front of the desired links. So to get the bell's link, you need to be to the left of the "N" of "Notices (1)". --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 19:12, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-06-28T19:12:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T03:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Isarra|2019-07-01T15:50:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-06-28T19:12:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T19:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-06-28T19:12:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T03:19:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Isarra|2019-07-01T15:50:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-06-28T19:12:00.000Z"></span>It'll be actually fixed here by the end of the week, or next week. Probably. Patch is merged; this is just the last place to get fixes when people aren't wildly swatting everything like lemurs. Mmm, lemurs. -— <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Isarra" title="User:Isarra">Isarra</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Isarra" title="User talk:Isarra">༆</a> 15:50, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Isarra|2019-07-01T15:50:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-06-28T19:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T15:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Isarra&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Isarra|2019-07-01T15:50:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-06-28T19:12:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<ul><li><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-28T20:19:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T03:19:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a>:</span> I'm trying your css hack at <a href="https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/MainPage" class="extiw" title="testwiki:MainPage">testwiki:MainPage</a>, it should be live in a few mins - just as another stopgap until the phab ticket is resolved - feel free to go look for bugs there before it gets promoted locally here. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 20:19, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-28T20:19:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T03:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T20:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-28T20:19:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T03:19:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Killiondude|2019-06-28T03:23:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T03:19:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BullRangifer" title="User:BullRangifer">BullRangifer</a>:</span> do you use Monobook for your skin? If so, see <a href="#Excessive_width_on_monobook">#Excessive width on monobook</a> and specifically the last bit of code given that you can put into your css file to fix what the devs broke in the skin. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Killiondude" title="User:Killiondude">Killiondude</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Killiondude" title="User talk:Killiondude">talk</a>) 03:23, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Killiondude|2019-06-28T03:23:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T03:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T06:53:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-28T03:23:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T03:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Killiondude&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Killiondude|2019-06-28T03:23:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T03:19:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T06:53:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-28T03:23:00.000Z"></span>Still a problem. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BullRangifer" title="User:BullRangifer">BullRangifer</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:BullRangifer" title="User talk:BullRangifer">talk</a>) 06:53, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T06:53:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-28T03:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-06-28T11:05:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T06:53:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T06:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;BullRangifer&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T06:53:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-28T03:23:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-06-28T11:05:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T06:53:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BullRangifer" title="User:BullRangifer">BullRangifer</a>:</span> The problem is that although the bell and TV set icons are still links, their hotspots have shifted to the left by about their own width plus a bit more. So the TV set's hotspot is now where the bell is displayed. Therefore, to activate the bell, you click a little to its left - just over the letters "fer" should do it. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 11:05, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-06-28T11:05:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T06:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-28T11:07:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-06-28T11:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T14:18:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-06-28T11:05:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T11:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-06-28T11:05:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T06:53:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-28T11:07:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-06-28T11:05:00.000Z"></span>Several patches for this were worked on and hopefully it will be fixed very soon! — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 11:07, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-28T11:07:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-06-28T11:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T11:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-28T11:07:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-06-28T11:05:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T14:18:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-06-28T11:05:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64">Redrose64</a>:</span>, you're right! That's exactly what's happened. When will this be fixed? -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BullRangifer" title="User:BullRangifer">BullRangifer</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:BullRangifer" title="User talk:BullRangifer">talk</a>) 14:18, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T14:18:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-06-28T11:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-28T17:45:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T14:18:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T14:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;BullRangifer&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T14:18:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-06-28T11:05:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-28T17:45:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T14:18:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BullRangifer" title="User:BullRangifer">BullRangifer</a>:</span> My "fix" (developed using the tried-and-true <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://xkcd.com/627/">XKCD method</a>) should work, but you need to put it in your <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MyPage/monobook.css" title="Special:MyPage/monobook.css">monobook.css</a>, not your <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MyPage/monobook.js" title="Special:MyPage/monobook.js">monobook.js</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Isarra" title="User:Isarra">Isarra</a> has <a class="external text" href="https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/mediawiki/skins/MonoBook/+/519587/">submitted a patch</a> which should fix this on all wikis, but it hasn't been reviewed yet and I don't know how long it will take to be merged. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User talk:Suffusion of Yellow">talk</a>) 17:45, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-28T17:45:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T14:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T20:11:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-28T17:45:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T17:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Suffusion of Yellow&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-28T17:45:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T14:18:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T20:11:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-28T17:45:00.000Z"></span>I don't have that subpage, but I'll create it and give it a try there. Thanks. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BullRangifer" title="User:BullRangifer">BullRangifer</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:BullRangifer" title="User talk:BullRangifer">talk</a>) 20:11, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T20:11:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-28T17:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T20:14:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T20:11:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T20:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;BullRangifer&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T20:11:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-28T17:45:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T20:14:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T20:11:00.000Z"></span>That worked instantly! -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BullRangifer" title="User:BullRangifer">BullRangifer</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:BullRangifer" title="User talk:BullRangifer">talk</a>) 20:14, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T20:14:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T20:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T20:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;BullRangifer&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T20:14:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T20:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-06-28T19:12:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T03:19:00.000Z"></span>I've worked out why the hotspots are overwide and overlapping. Whilst looking at DuncanHill's (unrelated) Blackskin problem with that gadget enabled, I happened to hover over the alerts icons - and behold! the text links "Alerts (1)" or "Notices (1)" become visible. It is those textual items that are invisibly appearing in front of the desired links. So to get the bell's link, you need to be to the left of the "N" of "Notices (1)". --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 19:12, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-06-28T19:12:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T03:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Isarra|2019-07-01T15:50:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-06-28T19:12:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T19:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-06-28T19:12:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T03:19:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Isarra|2019-07-01T15:50:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-06-28T19:12:00.000Z"></span>It'll be actually fixed here by the end of the week, or next week. Probably. Patch is merged; this is just the last place to get fixes when people aren't wildly swatting everything like lemurs. Mmm, lemurs. -— <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Isarra" title="User:Isarra">Isarra</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Isarra" title="User talk:Isarra">༆</a> 15:50, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Isarra|2019-07-01T15:50:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-06-28T19:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T15:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Isarra&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Isarra|2019-07-01T15:50:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-06-28T19:12:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<ul><li><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-28T20:19:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T03:19:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a>:</span> I'm trying your css hack at <a href="https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/MainPage" class="extiw" title="testwiki:MainPage">testwiki:MainPage</a>, it should be live in a few mins - just as another stopgap until the phab ticket is resolved - feel free to go look for bugs there before it gets promoted locally here. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 20:19, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-28T20:19:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T03:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T20:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-28T20:19:00.000Z|BullRangifer|2019-06-28T03:19:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
 <h3><span id="I.27m_being_over-notified."></span><span class="mw-headline" id="I'm_being_over-notified." data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|I'm_being_over-notified.|Issues_with_alerts,_June_2019|2019-06-28T20:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|GoodDay|2019-06-28T20:49:00.000Z|I'm_being_over-notified.&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:3,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|I'm_being_over-notified.|Issues_with_alerts,_June_2019|2019-06-28T20:49:00.000Z"></span>I'm being over-notified.<span data-mw-comment-end="h|I'm_being_over-notified.|Issues_with_alerts,_June_2019|2019-06-28T20:49:00.000Z"></span></span></h3>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|GoodDay|2019-06-28T20:49:00.000Z|I'm_being_over-notified."></span>Somebody <i>rid</i> me of those dang notifications, which won't go away. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GoodDay" title="User:GoodDay">GoodDay</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GoodDay" title="User talk:GoodDay">talk</a>) 20:49, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GoodDay|2019-06-28T20:49:00.000Z|I'm_being_over-notified.&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-28T21:08:00.000Z|GoodDay|2019-06-28T20:49:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T20:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GoodDay&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GoodDay|2019-06-28T20:49:00.000Z|I'm_being_over-notified."></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|GoodDay|2019-06-28T20:49:00.000Z|I'm_being_over-notified."></span>Somebody <i>rid</i> me of those dang notifications, which won't go away. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GoodDay" title="User:GoodDay">GoodDay</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GoodDay" title="User talk:GoodDay">talk</a>) 20:49, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GoodDay|2019-06-28T20:49:00.000Z|I'm_being_over-notified.&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-28T21:08:00.000Z|GoodDay|2019-06-28T20:49:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T20:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GoodDay&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GoodDay|2019-06-28T20:49:00.000Z|I'm_being_over-notified."></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-28T21:08:00.000Z|GoodDay|2019-06-28T20:49:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GoodDay" title="User:GoodDay">GoodDay</a>:</span> Are you using the MonoBook skin? If so, please visit the <a href="https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page" class="extiw" title="testwiki:Main Page">test wiki</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BYPASS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BYPASS">WP:BYPASS</a> your cache, and see if everything works as expected over there.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User talk:Suffusion of Yellow">talk</a>) 21:08, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-28T21:08:00.000Z|GoodDay|2019-06-28T20:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|GoodDay|2019-06-28T22:05:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-28T21:08:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T21:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Suffusion of Yellow&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-28T21:08:00.000Z|GoodDay|2019-06-28T20:49:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|GoodDay|2019-06-28T22:05:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-28T21:08:00.000Z"></span>I went to my <i>All notifications</i> &amp; 'unread' them. It seems to have worked. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GoodDay" title="User:GoodDay">GoodDay</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GoodDay" title="User talk:GoodDay">talk</a>) 22:05, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GoodDay|2019-06-28T22:05:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-28T21:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T22:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GoodDay&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GoodDay|2019-06-28T22:05:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-28T21:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-28T21:08:00.000Z|GoodDay|2019-06-28T20:49:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GoodDay" title="User:GoodDay">GoodDay</a>:</span> Are you using the MonoBook skin? If so, please visit the <a href="https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page" class="extiw" title="testwiki:Main Page">test wiki</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BYPASS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BYPASS">WP:BYPASS</a> your cache, and see if everything works as expected over there.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User talk:Suffusion of Yellow">talk</a>) 21:08, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-28T21:08:00.000Z|GoodDay|2019-06-28T20:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|GoodDay|2019-06-28T22:05:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-28T21:08:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T21:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Suffusion of Yellow&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-28T21:08:00.000Z|GoodDay|2019-06-28T20:49:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|GoodDay|2019-06-28T22:05:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-28T21:08:00.000Z"></span>I went to my <i>All notifications</i> &amp; 'unread' them. It seems to have worked. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GoodDay" title="User:GoodDay">GoodDay</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GoodDay" title="User talk:GoodDay">talk</a>) 22:05, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GoodDay|2019-06-28T22:05:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-28T21:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T22:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GoodDay&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GoodDay|2019-06-28T22:05:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-28T21:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h3><span class="mw-headline" id="Hack_added_to_monobook.css" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Hack_added_to_monobook.css|Issues_with_alerts,_June_2019|2019-06-28T22:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-28T22:33:00.000Z|Hack_added_to_monobook.css&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:3,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Hack_added_to_monobook.css|Issues_with_alerts,_June_2019|2019-06-28T22:33:00.000Z"></span>Hack added to monobook.css<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Hack_added_to_monobook.css|Issues_with_alerts,_June_2019|2019-06-28T22:33:00.000Z"></span></span></h3>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-28T22:33:00.000Z|Hack_added_to_monobook.css"></span>I'm adding <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a>'s hack to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Monobook.css" title="MediaWiki:Monobook.css">MediaWiki:monobook.css</a> for now - revert if it causes trouble. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 22:33, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-28T22:33:00.000Z|Hack_added_to_monobook.css&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-28T22:46:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-28T22:33:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T22:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-28T22:33:00.000Z|Hack_added_to_monobook.css"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-28T22:33:00.000Z|Hack_added_to_monobook.css"></span>I'm adding <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a>'s hack to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Monobook.css" title="MediaWiki:Monobook.css">MediaWiki:monobook.css</a> for now - revert if it causes trouble. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 22:33, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-28T22:33:00.000Z|Hack_added_to_monobook.css&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-28T22:46:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-28T22:33:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T22:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-28T22:33:00.000Z|Hack_added_to_monobook.css"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-28T22:46:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-28T22:33:00.000Z"></span>Working for me, at least. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User talk:Suffusion of Yellow">talk</a>) 22:46, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-28T22:46:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-28T22:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T22:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Suffusion of Yellow&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-28T22:46:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-28T22:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-28T22:46:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-28T22:33:00.000Z"></span>Working for me, at least. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User talk:Suffusion of Yellow">talk</a>) 22:46, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-28T22:46:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-28T22:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T22:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Suffusion of Yellow&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-06-28T22:46:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-28T22:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <h3><span class="mw-headline" id="Deployment_update" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Deployment_update|Issues_with_alerts,_June_2019|2019-07-03T00:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Roan Kattouw (WMF)|2019-07-03T00:02:00.000Z|Deployment_update&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:3,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Deployment_update|Issues_with_alerts,_June_2019|2019-07-03T00:02:00.000Z"></span>Deployment update<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Deployment_update|Issues_with_alerts,_June_2019|2019-07-03T00:02:00.000Z"></span></span></h3>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Roan Kattouw (WMF)|2019-07-03T00:02:00.000Z|Deployment_update"></span>Thanks to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Isarra" title="User:Isarra">User:Isarra</a>'s efforts on Friday, we now have full fixes for the notification badge issues in the Monobook and Modern skins. About 15 minutes ago (at 23:36 UTC) I deployed the fixes for Monobook, these are now live on all wikis. I didn't deploy the fixes for Modern because those are a little more complicated and that skin isn't used as much as Monobook is. If I get a chance, I may be able to deploy those 24 hours from now, and otherwise they'll come with next week's regular weekly deployment train on Thursday July 11 (there is no train this week due to the July 4th holiday). Thanks to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Isarra" title="User:Isarra">User:Isarra</a> for writing proper fixes for these bugs, and to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux">User:Xaosflux</a> for putting interim fixes in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Monobook.css" title="MediaWiki:Monobook.css">MediaWiki:Monobook.css</a> in the meantime. And, again, my apologies for this disruption; I was the reviewer on the change that broke this, and I should have caught the fact that it changed the badge structure and the main badge CSS but did not update the Monobook CSS to match. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Roan_Kattouw_(WMF)" title="User:Roan Kattouw (WMF)">Roan Kattouw (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Roan_Kattouw_(WMF)" title="User talk:Roan Kattouw (WMF)">talk</a>) 00:02, 3 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Roan Kattouw (WMF)|2019-07-03T00:02:00.000Z|Deployment_update&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-03T00:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Roan Kattouw (WMF)&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Roan Kattouw (WMF)|2019-07-03T00:02:00.000Z|Deployment_update"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Roan Kattouw (WMF)|2019-07-03T00:02:00.000Z|Deployment_update"></span>Thanks to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Isarra" title="User:Isarra">User:Isarra</a>'s efforts on Friday, we now have full fixes for the notification badge issues in the Monobook and Modern skins. About 15 minutes ago (at 23:36 UTC) I deployed the fixes for Monobook, these are now live on all wikis. I didn't deploy the fixes for Modern because those are a little more complicated and that skin isn't used as much as Monobook is. If I get a chance, I may be able to deploy those 24 hours from now, and otherwise they'll come with next week's regular weekly deployment train on Thursday July 11 (there is no train this week due to the July 4th holiday). Thanks to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Isarra" title="User:Isarra">User:Isarra</a> for writing proper fixes for these bugs, and to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux">User:Xaosflux</a> for putting interim fixes in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Monobook.css" title="MediaWiki:Monobook.css">MediaWiki:Monobook.css</a> in the meantime. And, again, my apologies for this disruption; I was the reviewer on the change that broke this, and I should have caught the fact that it changed the badge structure and the main badge CSS but did not update the Monobook CSS to match. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Roan_Kattouw_(WMF)" title="User:Roan Kattouw (WMF)">Roan Kattouw (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Roan_Kattouw_(WMF)" title="User talk:Roan Kattouw (WMF)">talk</a>) 00:02, 3 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Roan Kattouw (WMF)|2019-07-03T00:02:00.000Z|Deployment_update&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-03T00:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Roan Kattouw (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Roan Kattouw (WMF)|2019-07-03T00:02:00.000Z|Deployment_update"></span>
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 <h2><span id=".22Show_preview.22_toolbar_needs_to_be_above_the_edit_summary_in_the_wikitext_editing_window"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="&quot;Show_preview&quot;_toolbar_needs_to_be_above_the_edit_summary_in_the_wikitext_editing_window" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|\&quot;Show_preview\&quot;_toolbar_needs_to_be_above_the_edit_summary_in_the_wikitext_editin|2019-07-01T08:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T08:34:00.000Z|\&quot;Show_preview\&quot;_toolbar_needs_to_be_above_the_edit_summary_in_the_wikitext_editin&quot;,&quot;h|Edit_window_length_is_not_remembered|\&quot;Show_preview\&quot;_toolbar_needs_to_be_above_the_edit_summary_in_the_wikitext_editin|2019-07-01T08:24:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|&quot;Show_preview&quot;_toolbar_needs_to_be_above_the_edit_summary_in_the_wikitext_editin|2019-07-01T08:34:00.000Z"></span>"Show preview" toolbar needs to be above the edit summary in the wikitext editing window<span data-mw-comment-end="h|&quot;Show_preview&quot;_toolbar_needs_to_be_above_the_edit_summary_in_the_wikitext_editin|2019-07-01T08:34:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T08:34:00.000Z|&quot;Show_preview&quot;_toolbar_needs_to_be_above_the_edit_summary_in_the_wikitext_editin"></span>Or there needs to be a setting in preferences to allow this. Scrolling is a pain. Half the page has to be scrolled to click the "show preview" button. 
 </p><p>Weird thing is that the edit window here does not have the "Edit summary (Briefly describe your changes)" toolbar. It only has the "common edit summaries" toolbar. 
-</p><p>So look at an article edit window, or an article talk page edit window. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Timeshifter" title="User:Timeshifter"><b>Timeshifter</b></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Timeshifter" title="User talk:Timeshifter">talk</a>) 08:34, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T08:34:00.000Z|\&quot;Show_preview\&quot;_toolbar_needs_to_be_above_the_edit_summary_in_the_wikitext_editin&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-01T16:25:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T08:34:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T08:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Timeshifter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T08:34:00.000Z|&quot;Show_preview&quot;_toolbar_needs_to_be_above_the_edit_summary_in_the_wikitext_editin"></span>
+</p><p>So look at an article edit window, or an article talk page edit window. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Timeshifter" title="User:Timeshifter"><b>Timeshifter</b></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Timeshifter" title="User talk:Timeshifter">talk</a>) 08:34, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T08:34:00.000Z|\&quot;Show_preview\&quot;_toolbar_needs_to_be_above_the_edit_summary_in_the_wikitext_editin&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-01T16:25:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T08:34:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T08:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Timeshifter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T08:34:00.000Z|&quot;Show_preview&quot;_toolbar_needs_to_be_above_the_edit_summary_in_the_wikitext_editin"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-07-01T16:25:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T08:34:00.000Z"></span>If you begin editing by using the "new section" tab, then no, you don't get an edit summary window. Instead, a standard edit summary is constructed for you, consisting of the name of the new section wrapped in <code>/* ... */</code> markers plus the words "new section". The edit summary window only appears when editing an existing section, or the whole page. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 16:25, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-01T16:25:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T08:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Timeshifter|2019-07-02T08:42:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-01T16:25:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T16:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-07-01T16:25:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T08:34:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Timeshifter|2019-07-02T08:42:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-01T16:25:00.000Z"></span>Thanks, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64">Redrose64</a>. I see now. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Timeshifter" title="User:Timeshifter"><b>Timeshifter</b></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Timeshifter" title="User talk:Timeshifter">talk</a>) 08:42, 2 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Timeshifter|2019-07-02T08:42:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-01T16:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-02T08:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Timeshifter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Timeshifter|2019-07-02T08:42:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-01T16:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-07-01T16:25:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T08:34:00.000Z"></span>If you begin editing by using the "new section" tab, then no, you don't get an edit summary window. Instead, a standard edit summary is constructed for you, consisting of the name of the new section wrapped in <code>/* ... */</code> markers plus the words "new section". The edit summary window only appears when editing an existing section, or the whole page. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 16:25, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-01T16:25:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T08:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Timeshifter|2019-07-02T08:42:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-01T16:25:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T16:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-07-01T16:25:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T08:34:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Timeshifter|2019-07-02T08:42:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-01T16:25:00.000Z"></span>Thanks, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64">Redrose64</a>. I see now. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Timeshifter" title="User:Timeshifter"><b>Timeshifter</b></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Timeshifter" title="User talk:Timeshifter">talk</a>) 08:42, 2 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Timeshifter|2019-07-02T08:42:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-01T16:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-02T08:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Timeshifter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Timeshifter|2019-07-02T08:42:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-01T16:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h3><span class="mw-headline" id="Edit_window_length_is_not_remembered" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Edit_window_length_is_not_remembered|\&quot;Show_preview\&quot;_toolbar_needs_to_be_above_the_edit_summary_in_the_wikitext_editin|2019-07-01T08:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T08:24:00.000Z|Edit_window_length_is_not_remembered&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:3,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Edit_window_length_is_not_remembered|&quot;Show_preview&quot;_toolbar_needs_to_be_above_the_edit_summary_in_the_wikitext_editin|2019-07-01T08:24:00.000Z"></span>Edit window length is not remembered<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Edit_window_length_is_not_remembered|&quot;Show_preview&quot;_toolbar_needs_to_be_above_the_edit_summary_in_the_wikitext_editin|2019-07-01T08:24:00.000Z"></span></span></h3>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T08:24:00.000Z|Edit_window_length_is_not_remembered"></span>A related problem is that the wikitext edit window length is not remembered. I can drag it up or down in length. But when I open another article or talk page, and then open an edit window, it is back to being a very lengthy edit window. 
 </p><p>This exacerbates the previous problem of the "Publish changes" toolbar being separated by almost half a page of edit summary and terms of use stuff. 
-</p><p>Lots of scrolling to do multiple previews. I am using Firefox on a 21-inch LCD monitor. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Timeshifter" title="User:Timeshifter"><b>Timeshifter</b></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Timeshifter" title="User talk:Timeshifter">talk</a>) 08:24, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T08:24:00.000Z|Edit_window_length_is_not_remembered&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-01T09:59:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T08:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Galobtter|2019-07-01T10:14:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T08:24:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T08:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Timeshifter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T08:24:00.000Z|Edit_window_length_is_not_remembered"></span>
+</p><p>Lots of scrolling to do multiple previews. I am using Firefox on a 21-inch LCD monitor. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Timeshifter" title="User:Timeshifter"><b>Timeshifter</b></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Timeshifter" title="User talk:Timeshifter">talk</a>) 08:24, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T08:24:00.000Z|Edit_window_length_is_not_remembered&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-01T09:59:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T08:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Galobtter|2019-07-01T10:14:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T08:24:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T08:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Timeshifter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T08:24:00.000Z|Edit_window_length_is_not_remembered"></span>
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 <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-01T09:59:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T08:24:00.000Z"></span>This in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MyPage/common.css" title="Special:MyPage/common.css">your CSS</a> sets the edit box height:</dd></dl>
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-<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Js/ajaxPreview#Installation" title="User:Js/ajaxPreview">User:Js/ajaxPreview#Installation</a> adds a small preview button above the edit box. It makes other changes. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 09:59, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-01T09:59:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T08:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T09:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-01T09:59:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T08:24:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Galobtter|2019-07-01T10:14:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T08:24:00.000Z"></span>Or you can use <kbd>alt+shift+p</kbd> to preview. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Galobtter" title="User:Galobtter">Galobtter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Galobtter" title="User talk:Galobtter">pingó mió</a>) 10:14, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Galobtter|2019-07-01T10:14:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T08:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Timeshifter|2019-07-02T08:38:00.000Z|Galobtter|2019-07-01T10:14:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Galobtter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Galobtter|2019-07-01T10:14:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T08:24:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Timeshifter|2019-07-02T08:38:00.000Z|Galobtter|2019-07-01T10:14:00.000Z"></span>Thanks, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a>. I installed both, and they both work great. They both should be preferences. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Timeshifter" title="User:Timeshifter"><b>Timeshifter</b></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Timeshifter" title="User talk:Timeshifter">talk</a>) 08:38, 2 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Timeshifter|2019-07-02T08:38:00.000Z|Galobtter|2019-07-01T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-02T18:30:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-02T08:38:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-02T08:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Timeshifter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Timeshifter|2019-07-02T08:38:00.000Z|Galobtter|2019-07-01T10:14:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-07-02T18:30:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-02T08:38:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Timeshifter" title="User:Timeshifter">Timeshifter</a>:</span> It has previously been suggested (see e.g. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_153#Edit_box_size" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 153">this thread</a>)) that a setting such as the above rule <code>textarea {height:15em}</code> should be made a user pref. Unfortunately, this is not feasible since a value of 15em is not suitable for every user - we do not know how high anybody else's screen is. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 18:30, 2 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-02T18:30:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-02T08:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Timeshifter|2019-07-03T02:53:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-02T18:30:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-02T18:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-07-02T18:30:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-02T08:38:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Js/ajaxPreview#Installation" title="User:Js/ajaxPreview">User:Js/ajaxPreview#Installation</a> adds a small preview button above the edit box. It makes other changes. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 09:59, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-01T09:59:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T08:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T09:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-01T09:59:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T08:24:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Galobtter|2019-07-01T10:14:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T08:24:00.000Z"></span>Or you can use <kbd>alt+shift+p</kbd> to preview. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Galobtter" title="User:Galobtter">Galobtter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Galobtter" title="User talk:Galobtter">pingó mió</a>) 10:14, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Galobtter|2019-07-01T10:14:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T08:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Timeshifter|2019-07-02T08:38:00.000Z|Galobtter|2019-07-01T10:14:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Galobtter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Galobtter|2019-07-01T10:14:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T08:24:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Timeshifter|2019-07-02T08:38:00.000Z|Galobtter|2019-07-01T10:14:00.000Z"></span>Thanks, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a>. I installed both, and they both work great. They both should be preferences. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Timeshifter" title="User:Timeshifter"><b>Timeshifter</b></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Timeshifter" title="User talk:Timeshifter">talk</a>) 08:38, 2 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Timeshifter|2019-07-02T08:38:00.000Z|Galobtter|2019-07-01T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-02T18:30:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-02T08:38:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-02T08:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Timeshifter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Timeshifter|2019-07-02T08:38:00.000Z|Galobtter|2019-07-01T10:14:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-07-02T18:30:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-02T08:38:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Timeshifter" title="User:Timeshifter">Timeshifter</a>:</span> It has previously been suggested (see e.g. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_153#Edit_box_size" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 153">this thread</a>)) that a setting such as the above rule <code>textarea {height:15em}</code> should be made a user pref. Unfortunately, this is not feasible since a value of 15em is not suitable for every user - we do not know how high anybody else's screen is. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 18:30, 2 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-02T18:30:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-02T08:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Timeshifter|2019-07-03T02:53:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-02T18:30:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-02T18:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-07-02T18:30:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-02T08:38:00.000Z"></span>
 <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Timeshifter|2019-07-03T02:53:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-02T18:30:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64">Redrose64</a>:</span> Thanks. I see from that old thread that it was possible in the past to choose the size of the textarea.  I vaguely remember that this existed at one time. You wrote in that old thread: "Each pref removed marginally improves page load time for logged-in users." Is it only prefs that are changed from default settings that effect page load time? If so, then the more preferences the better.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>There should be a way to open up and activate a whole new set of preferences. That way newbs could start with a manageable set of preferences. Then over time, if desired, then people could look at other preferences. Without having to paste stuff into CSS and JS pages. People could make their own decision as to whether the marginal loss of page load speed was made up for by the improvements provided by the additional preferences. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Timeshifter" title="User:Timeshifter"><b>Timeshifter</b></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Timeshifter" title="User talk:Timeshifter">talk</a>) 02:53, 3 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Timeshifter|2019-07-03T02:53:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-02T18:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-03T02:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Timeshifter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Timeshifter|2019-07-03T02:53:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-02T18:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>There should be a way to open up and activate a whole new set of preferences. That way newbs could start with a manageable set of preferences. Then over time, if desired, then people could look at other preferences. Without having to paste stuff into CSS and JS pages. People could make their own decision as to whether the marginal loss of page load speed was made up for by the improvements provided by the additional preferences. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Timeshifter" title="User:Timeshifter"><b>Timeshifter</b></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Timeshifter" title="User talk:Timeshifter">talk</a>) 02:53, 3 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Timeshifter|2019-07-03T02:53:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-02T18:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-03T02:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Timeshifter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Timeshifter|2019-07-03T02:53:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-02T18:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id="Problem_with_CSD_category_counts.2C_again"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Problem_with_CSD_category_counts,_again" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Problem_with_CSD_category_counts,_again|2019-07-02T23:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Liz|2019-07-02T23:35:00.000Z|Problem_with_CSD_category_counts,_again&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Problem_with_CSD_category_counts,_again|2019-07-02T23:35:00.000Z"></span>Problem with CSD category counts, again<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Problem_with_CSD_category_counts,_again|2019-07-02T23:35:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Liz|2019-07-02T23:35:00.000Z|Problem_with_CSD_category_counts,_again"></span>I wrote a query regarding <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#Category:Candidates_for_uncontroversial_speedy_deletion" title="Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion">CSD category counts being incorrect</a> and SoWhy helpfully pointed me to archived threads on this board, like <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_169#Category_count_wrong" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 169">Category count wrong</a> and several others with the same complaint going back to spring 2018. Editors responded by listing Phab tickets, like <a class="external text" href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T200402">T200402</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T195397">T195397</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T221795">T221795</a> or <a class="external text" href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T18036">T18036</a> (and there are probably more). I've checked all the different tickets that were mentioned in these threads on this common problem and they are either marked as a) closed, resolved, b) closed, duplicate or c) low priority. I don't see how this issue can be considered resolved when it continues to be a problem and it is disappointing to think that there is little to no chance that anyone will work on actually solving this problem. It's clear that a lot of work on this started last year, but then the ticket was mistakenly closed as resolved.
-</p><p>Is there any way to restart the process of review so that there is some investigation of this problem? Because as a "resolved, low priority" task, that means to me that it will never be examined again. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Liz" title="User:Liz"><i><b>L</b></i>iz</a></span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Liz" title="Special:Contributions/Liz"><i><b>Read!</b></i></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Liz" title="User talk:Liz"><i><b>Talk!</b></i></a></sup> 23:35, 2 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Liz|2019-07-02T23:35:00.000Z|Problem_with_CSD_category_counts,_again&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-07-03T06:37:00.000Z|Liz|2019-07-02T23:35:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-02T23:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Liz&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Liz|2019-07-02T23:35:00.000Z|Problem_with_CSD_category_counts,_again"></span>
+</p><p>Is there any way to restart the process of review so that there is some investigation of this problem? Because as a "resolved, low priority" task, that means to me that it will never be examined again. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Liz" title="User:Liz"><i><b>L</b></i>iz</a></span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Liz" title="Special:Contributions/Liz"><i><b>Read!</b></i></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Liz" title="User talk:Liz"><i><b>Talk!</b></i></a></sup> 23:35, 2 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Liz|2019-07-02T23:35:00.000Z|Problem_with_CSD_category_counts,_again&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-07-03T06:37:00.000Z|Liz|2019-07-02T23:35:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-02T23:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Liz&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Liz|2019-07-02T23:35:00.000Z|Problem_with_CSD_category_counts,_again"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ammarpad|2019-07-03T06:37:00.000Z|Liz|2019-07-02T23:35:00.000Z"></span>In Phabricator parlance "low priority" does not necessarily means the task is not important; quite the opposite at times. <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T195397" class="extiw" title="phab:T195397">Phab:T195397</a> was closed as resolved because it was <a class="external text" href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T195397#4291360">indeed resolved at the time</a>, and when the problem resurfaces, it was not reopened since there are many other open tasks. Some were closed as duplicate, because they were what the label says; even here, I believe we don't like 'duplicate.' The main task now is at <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T221795" class="extiw" title="phab:T221795">phab:T221795</a>. <div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div> However, (for me to not be too evasive) I admit the problem is not given any sense of urgency from the technical side, but that's easily explainable. To be frank, there's nothing broken if category count is not correct. The problem has been noticed <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T18036" class="extiw" title="phab:T18036">since 2008</a> or possibly earlier, and with adhoc fixes, everyone moves on until it returns and annoys another person. It's something obscure and which almost entire Wikipedia readers probably don't use nor care about. The editors who care for it (the count) are few, and even fewer know the problem exists. I don't know any way to speed up this, except (may be) to lobby the team working on it <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T221795" class="extiw" title="phab:T221795">in the task</a>, but keeping in mind, even if you think it needs immediate solution, others may not see it that way. – <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ammarpad" title="User:Ammarpad">Ammarpad</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ammarpad" title="User talk:Ammarpad">talk</a>) 06:37, 3 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-07-03T06:37:00.000Z|Liz|2019-07-02T23:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-03T06:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ammarpad&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ammarpad|2019-07-03T06:37:00.000Z|Liz|2019-07-02T23:35:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ammarpad|2019-07-03T06:37:00.000Z|Liz|2019-07-02T23:35:00.000Z"></span>In Phabricator parlance "low priority" does not necessarily means the task is not important; quite the opposite at times. <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T195397" class="extiw" title="phab:T195397">Phab:T195397</a> was closed as resolved because it was <a class="external text" href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T195397#4291360">indeed resolved at the time</a>, and when the problem resurfaces, it was not reopened since there are many other open tasks. Some were closed as duplicate, because they were what the label says; even here, I believe we don't like 'duplicate.' The main task now is at <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T221795" class="extiw" title="phab:T221795">phab:T221795</a>. <div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div> However, (for me to not be too evasive) I admit the problem is not given any sense of urgency from the technical side, but that's easily explainable. To be frank, there's nothing broken if category count is not correct. The problem has been noticed <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T18036" class="extiw" title="phab:T18036">since 2008</a> or possibly earlier, and with adhoc fixes, everyone moves on until it returns and annoys another person. It's something obscure and which almost entire Wikipedia readers probably don't use nor care about. The editors who care for it (the count) are few, and even fewer know the problem exists. I don't know any way to speed up this, except (may be) to lobby the team working on it <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T221795" class="extiw" title="phab:T221795">in the task</a>, but keeping in mind, even if you think it needs immediate solution, others may not see it that way. – <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ammarpad" title="User:Ammarpad">Ammarpad</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ammarpad" title="User talk:Ammarpad">talk</a>) 06:37, 3 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-07-03T06:37:00.000Z|Liz|2019-07-02T23:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-03T06:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ammarpad&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ammarpad|2019-07-03T06:37:00.000Z|Liz|2019-07-02T23:35:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
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 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T20:27:00.000Z|Remove_fbclid=..._from_all_links"></span>Hi all,
 </p><p>I happened to notice that hundreds of links in hundreds of articles include fbclid=longstringofrandomlookingletters parameters. According to what I read, Facebook adds these to track users' browsing behavior. It works like this:
@@ -540,26 +540,26 @@ Tag: Rescuing 14 sources and tagging 0 as dead. #IABot (v2.0beta15)
 <p>So it would be great if some Wikipedia wizard could program and unleash a bot for this? Please??
 Supposedly there are also Google Click IDs and others, however I haven't found their 'additions' in links. Maybe there is already a bot in place filtering them out? Then this bot would just need a little expanding.
 </p><p>I hope this is the right place to ask. Someone at the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse#Remove_fbclid=..._from_all_links" title="Wikipedia:Teahouse">Teahouse</a> was kind enough to point me here.
-</p><p>Thanks and regards, Jens (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/84.173.225.148" title="Special:Contributions/84.173.225.148">84.173.225.148</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:84.173.225.148" title="User talk:84.173.225.148">talk</a>) 20:27, 30 June 2019 (UTC))<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T20:27:00.000Z|Remove_fbclid=..._from_all_links&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-06-30T20:35:00.000Z|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T20:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Galobtter|2019-06-30T20:44:00.000Z|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T20:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-30T20:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;84.173.225.148&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T20:27:00.000Z|Remove_fbclid=..._from_all_links"></span>
+</p><p>Thanks and regards, Jens (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/84.173.225.148" title="Special:Contributions/84.173.225.148">84.173.225.148</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:84.173.225.148" title="User talk:84.173.225.148">talk</a>) 20:27, 30 June 2019 (UTC))<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T20:27:00.000Z|Remove_fbclid=..._from_all_links&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-06-30T20:35:00.000Z|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T20:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Galobtter|2019-06-30T20:44:00.000Z|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T20:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-30T20:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;84.173.225.148&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T20:27:00.000Z|Remove_fbclid=..._from_all_links"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ammarpad|2019-06-30T20:35:00.000Z|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T20:27:00.000Z"></span>I believe there's a bot that's removing them already, though in a gradual way as there's no immediate harm while they're here. I think the bot is also removing them not only from Facebook's URLs but similar ones from Amazon.com and the like. – <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ammarpad" title="User:Ammarpad">Ammarpad</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ammarpad" title="User talk:Ammarpad">talk</a>) 20:35, 30 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-06-30T20:35:00.000Z|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T20:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-30T20:39:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-06-30T20:35:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-30T20:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ammarpad&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ammarpad|2019-06-30T20:35:00.000Z|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T20:27:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-30T20:39:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-06-30T20:35:00.000Z"></span>Yup, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/KolbertBot_4" title="Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/KolbertBot 4">Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/KolbertBot 4</a> was approved for this, but may be stalled/paused right now.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Kolbert" title="User:Jon Kolbert">User:Jon Kolbert</a> is the operator, who may have more information. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 20:39, 30 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-30T20:39:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-06-30T20:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-06-30T20:42:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-30T20:39:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-30T20:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-30T20:39:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-06-30T20:35:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cite_web#URL" title="Template:Cite web"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-06-30T20:42:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-30T20:39:00.000Z"></span>Template:Cite web#URL</a> says "Remove tracking parameters from URLs". <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&amp;search=insource%3Afbclid&amp;ns0=1&amp;fulltext=Search">insource:fbclid</a></span> currently gives me 1720 results in articles. The normal place for a request would be <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bot_requests" title="Wikipedia:Bot requests">Wikipedia:Bot requests</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 20:42, 30 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-06-30T20:42:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-30T20:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-30T20:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-06-30T20:42:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-30T20:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Galobtter|2019-06-30T20:44:00.000Z|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T20:27:00.000Z"></span>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Edit_conflict" title="Help:Edit conflict">edit conflict</a>)</small> Hi Jens, looks like <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:KolbertBot" title="User:KolbertBot">User:KolbertBot</a> per <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/KolbertBot_4" title="Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/KolbertBot 4">Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/KolbertBot 4</a> should be removing it, but the bot isn't running; ping <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Kolbert" title="User:Jon Kolbert">Jon Kolbert</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Galobtter" title="User:Galobtter">Galobtter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Galobtter" title="User talk:Galobtter">pingó mió</a>) 20:44, 30 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Galobtter|2019-06-30T20:44:00.000Z|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T20:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-30T20:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Galobtter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Galobtter|2019-06-30T20:44:00.000Z|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T20:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T21:14:00.000Z|Remove_fbclid=..._from_all_links"></span>I'll talk to him. Many thanks to all of you. --Jens (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/84.173.225.148" title="Special:Contributions/84.173.225.148">84.173.225.148</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:84.173.225.148" title="User talk:84.173.225.148">talk</a>) 21:14, 30 June 2019 (UTC))<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T21:14:00.000Z|Remove_fbclid=..._from_all_links&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|TheAwesomeHwyh|2019-06-30T22:59:00.000Z|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T21:14:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-30T21:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;84.173.225.148&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T21:14:00.000Z|Remove_fbclid=..._from_all_links"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ammarpad|2019-06-30T20:35:00.000Z|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T20:27:00.000Z"></span>I believe there's a bot that's removing them already, though in a gradual way as there's no immediate harm while they're here. I think the bot is also removing them not only from Facebook's URLs but similar ones from Amazon.com and the like. – <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ammarpad" title="User:Ammarpad">Ammarpad</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ammarpad" title="User talk:Ammarpad">talk</a>) 20:35, 30 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-06-30T20:35:00.000Z|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T20:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-30T20:39:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-06-30T20:35:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-30T20:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ammarpad&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ammarpad|2019-06-30T20:35:00.000Z|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T20:27:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-30T20:39:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-06-30T20:35:00.000Z"></span>Yup, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/KolbertBot_4" title="Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/KolbertBot 4">Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/KolbertBot 4</a> was approved for this, but may be stalled/paused right now.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Kolbert" title="User:Jon Kolbert">User:Jon Kolbert</a> is the operator, who may have more information. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 20:39, 30 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-30T20:39:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-06-30T20:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-06-30T20:42:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-30T20:39:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-30T20:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-30T20:39:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-06-30T20:35:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cite_web#URL" title="Template:Cite web"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-06-30T20:42:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-30T20:39:00.000Z"></span>Template:Cite web#URL</a> says "Remove tracking parameters from URLs". <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&amp;search=insource%3Afbclid&amp;ns0=1&amp;fulltext=Search">insource:fbclid</a></span> currently gives me 1720 results in articles. The normal place for a request would be <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bot_requests" title="Wikipedia:Bot requests">Wikipedia:Bot requests</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 20:42, 30 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-06-30T20:42:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-30T20:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-30T20:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-06-30T20:42:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-30T20:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Galobtter|2019-06-30T20:44:00.000Z|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T20:27:00.000Z"></span>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Edit_conflict" title="Help:Edit conflict">edit conflict</a>)</small> Hi Jens, looks like <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:KolbertBot" title="User:KolbertBot">User:KolbertBot</a> per <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/KolbertBot_4" title="Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/KolbertBot 4">Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/KolbertBot 4</a> should be removing it, but the bot isn't running; ping <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Kolbert" title="User:Jon Kolbert">Jon Kolbert</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Galobtter" title="User:Galobtter">Galobtter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Galobtter" title="User talk:Galobtter">pingó mió</a>) 20:44, 30 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Galobtter|2019-06-30T20:44:00.000Z|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T20:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-30T20:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Galobtter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Galobtter|2019-06-30T20:44:00.000Z|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T20:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T21:14:00.000Z|Remove_fbclid=..._from_all_links"></span>I'll talk to him. Many thanks to all of you. --Jens (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/84.173.225.148" title="Special:Contributions/84.173.225.148">84.173.225.148</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:84.173.225.148" title="User talk:84.173.225.148">talk</a>) 21:14, 30 June 2019 (UTC))<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T21:14:00.000Z|Remove_fbclid=..._from_all_links&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|TheAwesomeHwyh|2019-06-30T22:59:00.000Z|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T21:14:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-30T21:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;84.173.225.148&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T21:14:00.000Z|Remove_fbclid=..._from_all_links"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|TheAwesomeHwyh|2019-06-30T22:59:00.000Z|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T21:14:00.000Z"></span>Jens, thank you for bringing this to our attention! While we wait for him, I have begun (slowly) manually removing a lot of these trackers, if anyone wants to help, please do! <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TheAwesomeHwyh" title="User:TheAwesomeHwyh"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:#f4890e;text-shadow:Blue 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">TheAwesome</span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheAwesomeHwyh" title="User talk:TheAwesomeHwyh"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:#12bce2;text-shadow:OrangeRed 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Hwyh</span></a> 22:59, 30 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|TheAwesomeHwyh|2019-06-30T22:59:00.000Z|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T21:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T23:54:00.000Z|TheAwesomeHwyh|2019-06-30T22:59:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-30T22:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;TheAwesomeHwyh&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|TheAwesomeHwyh|2019-06-30T22:59:00.000Z|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T21:14:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T23:54:00.000Z|TheAwesomeHwyh|2019-06-30T22:59:00.000Z"></span>There are 1700 pages, many of which will have several affected links (the article where this issue came to my attention has 8 of them). While I admire your diligence, I do think it's best to let the bot handle this. Please consider that doing such tedious work manually is very error-prone, if you accidentally remove a bit too little or too much the link won't work any more. Best regards, Jens (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/84.173.225.148" title="Special:Contributions/84.173.225.148">84.173.225.148</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:84.173.225.148" title="User talk:84.173.225.148">talk</a>) 23:54, 30 June 2019 (UTC))<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T23:54:00.000Z|TheAwesomeHwyh|2019-06-30T22:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|TheAwesomeHwyh|2019-07-01T00:07:00.000Z|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T23:54:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-30T23:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;84.173.225.148&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T23:54:00.000Z|TheAwesomeHwyh|2019-06-30T22:59:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|TheAwesomeHwyh|2019-07-01T00:07:00.000Z|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T23:54:00.000Z"></span>Ah- I'm not planning on doing them all, just however many I can get to today (also, I check all the links before I upload), but yeah this is definitely something that's best suited for a bot once that gets running again. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TheAwesomeHwyh" title="User:TheAwesomeHwyh"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:#f4890e;text-shadow:Blue 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">TheAwesome</span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheAwesomeHwyh" title="User talk:TheAwesomeHwyh"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:#12bce2;text-shadow:OrangeRed 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Hwyh</span></a> 00:07, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|TheAwesomeHwyh|2019-07-01T00:07:00.000Z|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T23:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Jon Kolbert|2019-07-02T18:14:00.000Z|TheAwesomeHwyh|2019-07-01T00:07:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T00:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;TheAwesomeHwyh&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|TheAwesomeHwyh|2019-07-01T00:07:00.000Z|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T23:54:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Jon Kolbert|2019-07-02T18:14:00.000Z|TheAwesomeHwyh|2019-07-01T00:07:00.000Z"></span>Hi there, I have been very occupied with a lot of other things - but I will make sure this task runs :-). Thanks for the note <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Kolbert" title="User:Jon Kolbert">Jon Kolbert</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jon_Kolbert" title="User talk:Jon Kolbert">talk</a>) 18:14, 2 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Jon Kolbert|2019-07-02T18:14:00.000Z|TheAwesomeHwyh|2019-07-01T00:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|84.173.228.245|2019-07-03T21:11:00.000Z|Jon Kolbert|2019-07-02T18:14:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-02T18:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Jon Kolbert&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Jon Kolbert|2019-07-02T18:14:00.000Z|TheAwesomeHwyh|2019-07-01T00:07:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|84.173.228.245|2019-07-03T21:11:00.000Z|Jon Kolbert|2019-07-02T18:14:00.000Z"></span>Many thanks for your work. --Jens (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/84.173.228.245" title="Special:Contributions/84.173.228.245">84.173.228.245</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:84.173.228.245&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:84.173.228.245 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 21:11, 3 July 2019 (UTC))<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|84.173.228.245|2019-07-03T21:11:00.000Z|Jon Kolbert|2019-07-02T18:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-03T21:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;84.173.228.245&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|84.173.228.245|2019-07-03T21:11:00.000Z|Jon Kolbert|2019-07-02T18:14:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|TheAwesomeHwyh|2019-06-30T22:59:00.000Z|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T21:14:00.000Z"></span>Jens, thank you for bringing this to our attention! While we wait for him, I have begun (slowly) manually removing a lot of these trackers, if anyone wants to help, please do! <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TheAwesomeHwyh" title="User:TheAwesomeHwyh"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:#f4890e;text-shadow:Blue 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">TheAwesome</span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheAwesomeHwyh" title="User talk:TheAwesomeHwyh"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:#12bce2;text-shadow:OrangeRed 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Hwyh</span></a> 22:59, 30 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|TheAwesomeHwyh|2019-06-30T22:59:00.000Z|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T21:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T23:54:00.000Z|TheAwesomeHwyh|2019-06-30T22:59:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-30T22:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;TheAwesomeHwyh&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|TheAwesomeHwyh|2019-06-30T22:59:00.000Z|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T21:14:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T23:54:00.000Z|TheAwesomeHwyh|2019-06-30T22:59:00.000Z"></span>There are 1700 pages, many of which will have several affected links (the article where this issue came to my attention has 8 of them). While I admire your diligence, I do think it's best to let the bot handle this. Please consider that doing such tedious work manually is very error-prone, if you accidentally remove a bit too little or too much the link won't work any more. Best regards, Jens (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/84.173.225.148" title="Special:Contributions/84.173.225.148">84.173.225.148</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:84.173.225.148" title="User talk:84.173.225.148">talk</a>) 23:54, 30 June 2019 (UTC))<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T23:54:00.000Z|TheAwesomeHwyh|2019-06-30T22:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|TheAwesomeHwyh|2019-07-01T00:07:00.000Z|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T23:54:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-30T23:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;84.173.225.148&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T23:54:00.000Z|TheAwesomeHwyh|2019-06-30T22:59:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|TheAwesomeHwyh|2019-07-01T00:07:00.000Z|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T23:54:00.000Z"></span>Ah- I'm not planning on doing them all, just however many I can get to today (also, I check all the links before I upload), but yeah this is definitely something that's best suited for a bot once that gets running again. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TheAwesomeHwyh" title="User:TheAwesomeHwyh"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:#f4890e;text-shadow:Blue 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">TheAwesome</span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheAwesomeHwyh" title="User talk:TheAwesomeHwyh"><span style="font-family:Courier;color:#12bce2;text-shadow:OrangeRed 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Hwyh</span></a> 00:07, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|TheAwesomeHwyh|2019-07-01T00:07:00.000Z|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T23:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Jon Kolbert|2019-07-02T18:14:00.000Z|TheAwesomeHwyh|2019-07-01T00:07:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T00:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;TheAwesomeHwyh&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|TheAwesomeHwyh|2019-07-01T00:07:00.000Z|84.173.225.148|2019-06-30T23:54:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Jon Kolbert|2019-07-02T18:14:00.000Z|TheAwesomeHwyh|2019-07-01T00:07:00.000Z"></span>Hi there, I have been very occupied with a lot of other things - but I will make sure this task runs :-). Thanks for the note <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Kolbert" title="User:Jon Kolbert">Jon Kolbert</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jon_Kolbert" title="User talk:Jon Kolbert">talk</a>) 18:14, 2 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Jon Kolbert|2019-07-02T18:14:00.000Z|TheAwesomeHwyh|2019-07-01T00:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|84.173.228.245|2019-07-03T21:11:00.000Z|Jon Kolbert|2019-07-02T18:14:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-02T18:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Jon Kolbert&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Jon Kolbert|2019-07-02T18:14:00.000Z|TheAwesomeHwyh|2019-07-01T00:07:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|84.173.228.245|2019-07-03T21:11:00.000Z|Jon Kolbert|2019-07-02T18:14:00.000Z"></span>Many thanks for your work. --Jens (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/84.173.228.245" title="Special:Contributions/84.173.228.245">84.173.228.245</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:84.173.228.245&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:84.173.228.245 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 21:11, 3 July 2019 (UTC))<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|84.173.228.245|2019-07-03T21:11:00.000Z|Jon Kolbert|2019-07-02T18:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-03T21:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;84.173.228.245&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|84.173.228.245|2019-07-03T21:11:00.000Z|Jon Kolbert|2019-07-02T18:14:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|76.69.117.113|2019-07-03T04:06:00.000Z|Piped_link_with_lang_template"></span>It is easy to see that | is a permissible character to the right of the active | in a piped link.  For example, <code>[[red|green|blue]]</code> produces the anchor text "green|blue" linking to the page <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red" title="Red">red</a>: <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red" title="Red">green|blue</a>.
 </p><p>In the lead sentence of the page <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xiquets_Copenhagen" title="Xiquets Copenhagen">Xiquets Copenhagen</a>, however, the wikitext <code>([[Castell|{{lang|ca|castells}}]])</code> is obviously intended to produce the anchor text "<i lang="ca" title="Catalan language text">castells</i>" linking to the page <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castell" title="Castell">Castell</a>; but actually it does not produce a link at all, and most of the wikitext shows up as ordinary text in the article.  If this is supposed to work as intended, perhaps someone can fix the bug.  If it's intended not to work, perhaps someone can edit the article to do what is necessary to achieve the desired effect.
-</p><p>(If you have something to say, please say it here. I only came across the article via <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random" title="Special:Random">Special:Random</a>, and don't expect to look at it again.) --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/76.69.117.113" title="Special:Contributions/76.69.117.113">76.69.117.113</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:76.69.117.113&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:76.69.117.113 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 04:06, 3 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|76.69.117.113|2019-07-03T04:06:00.000Z|Piped_link_with_lang_template&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|John of Reading|2019-07-03T06:23:00.000Z|76.69.117.113|2019-07-03T04:06:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-03T04:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;76.69.117.113&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|76.69.117.113|2019-07-03T04:06:00.000Z|Piped_link_with_lang_template"></span>
+</p><p>(If you have something to say, please say it here. I only came across the article via <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random" title="Special:Random">Special:Random</a>, and don't expect to look at it again.) --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/76.69.117.113" title="Special:Contributions/76.69.117.113">76.69.117.113</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:76.69.117.113&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:76.69.117.113 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 04:06, 3 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|76.69.117.113|2019-07-03T04:06:00.000Z|Piped_link_with_lang_template&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|John of Reading|2019-07-03T06:23:00.000Z|76.69.117.113|2019-07-03T04:06:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-03T04:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;76.69.117.113&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|76.69.117.113|2019-07-03T04:06:00.000Z|Piped_link_with_lang_template"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|John of Reading|2019-07-03T06:23:00.000Z|76.69.117.113|2019-07-03T04:06:00.000Z"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> <b>Fixed</b> The problem is that {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Lang" title="Template:Lang">lang</a>}} not only marks the text as non-English, it also adds <code>[[Category:Articles containing ...-language text]]</code> - and wikilinks may not contain wikilinks. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:John_of_Reading" title="User:John of Reading">John of Reading</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading" title="User talk:John of Reading">talk</a>) 06:23, 3 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|John of Reading|2019-07-03T06:23:00.000Z|76.69.117.113|2019-07-03T04:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|76.69.117.113|2019-07-04T02:57:00.000Z|John of Reading|2019-07-03T06:23:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-03T06:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;John of Reading&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|John of Reading|2019-07-03T06:23:00.000Z|76.69.117.113|2019-07-03T04:06:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|76.69.117.113|2019-07-04T02:57:00.000Z|John of Reading|2019-07-03T06:23:00.000Z"></span>Ah, so it's intended not to work.  Perhaps it would be helpful if there was some kind of error message, because the original construction <i>looks</i> legitimate until you know why not. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/76.69.117.113" title="Special:Contributions/76.69.117.113">76.69.117.113</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:76.69.117.113&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:76.69.117.113 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 02:57, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|76.69.117.113|2019-07-04T02:57:00.000Z|John of Reading|2019-07-03T06:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T02:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;76.69.117.113&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|76.69.117.113|2019-07-04T02:57:00.000Z|John of Reading|2019-07-03T06:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|John of Reading|2019-07-03T06:23:00.000Z|76.69.117.113|2019-07-03T04:06:00.000Z"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> <b>Fixed</b> The problem is that {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Lang" title="Template:Lang">lang</a>}} not only marks the text as non-English, it also adds <code>[[Category:Articles containing ...-language text]]</code> - and wikilinks may not contain wikilinks. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:John_of_Reading" title="User:John of Reading">John of Reading</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading" title="User talk:John of Reading">talk</a>) 06:23, 3 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|John of Reading|2019-07-03T06:23:00.000Z|76.69.117.113|2019-07-03T04:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|76.69.117.113|2019-07-04T02:57:00.000Z|John of Reading|2019-07-03T06:23:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-03T06:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;John of Reading&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|John of Reading|2019-07-03T06:23:00.000Z|76.69.117.113|2019-07-03T04:06:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|76.69.117.113|2019-07-04T02:57:00.000Z|John of Reading|2019-07-03T06:23:00.000Z"></span>Ah, so it's intended not to work.  Perhaps it would be helpful if there was some kind of error message, because the original construction <i>looks</i> legitimate until you know why not. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/76.69.117.113" title="Special:Contributions/76.69.117.113">76.69.117.113</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:76.69.117.113&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:76.69.117.113 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 02:57, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|76.69.117.113|2019-07-04T02:57:00.000Z|John of Reading|2019-07-03T06:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T02:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;76.69.117.113&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|76.69.117.113|2019-07-04T02:57:00.000Z|John of Reading|2019-07-03T06:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T09:36:00.000Z|Why_can't_I_enable_the_2010_editing_toolbar_along_with_the_2006_editing_toolbar?"></span>I would like to have both toolbars. Please make this possible. See: <b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Legacy_toolbar" title="Wikipedia:Legacy toolbar">Wikipedia:Legacy toolbar</a>.</b>
 </p><p>See: <b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing" title="Special:Preferences">Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing</a>.</b> There one can enable this:
@@ -571,78 +571,78 @@ Supposedly there are also Google Click IDs and others, however I haven't found t
 <ul><li>Enable the legacy <b>(2006) editing toolbar.</b> This will be overridden by the "Enable the editing toolbar" option in the Editing tab.</li>
 <li>refToolbar: add a "cite" button to the editing toolbar for quick addition of commonly used citation templates</li>
 <li>Add extra buttons to the old (non-enhanced) editing toolbar</li></ul>
-<p>They just add more buttons to the 2006 editing toolbar. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Timeshifter" title="User:Timeshifter"><b>Timeshifter</b></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Timeshifter" title="User talk:Timeshifter">talk</a>) 09:36, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T09:36:00.000Z|Why_can't_I_enable_the_2010_editing_toolbar_along_with_the_2006_editing_toolbar?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Timeshifter|2019-07-03T02:56:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T09:36:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T09:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Timeshifter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T09:36:00.000Z|Why_can't_I_enable_the_2010_editing_toolbar_along_with_the_2006_editing_toolbar?"></span>
+<p>They just add more buttons to the 2006 editing toolbar. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Timeshifter" title="User:Timeshifter"><b>Timeshifter</b></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Timeshifter" title="User talk:Timeshifter">talk</a>) 09:36, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T09:36:00.000Z|Why_can't_I_enable_the_2010_editing_toolbar_along_with_the_2006_editing_toolbar?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Timeshifter|2019-07-03T02:56:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T09:36:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T09:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Timeshifter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T09:36:00.000Z|Why_can't_I_enable_the_2010_editing_toolbar_along_with_the_2006_editing_toolbar?"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Timeshifter|2019-07-03T02:56:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T09:36:00.000Z"></span>Anybody? Is this technically feasible? -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Timeshifter" title="User:Timeshifter"><b>Timeshifter</b></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Timeshifter" title="User talk:Timeshifter">talk</a>) 02:56, 3 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Timeshifter|2019-07-03T02:56:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T09:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Snaevar|2019-07-03T16:53:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-03T02:56:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-03T02:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Timeshifter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Timeshifter|2019-07-03T02:56:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T09:36:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Snaevar|2019-07-03T16:53:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-03T02:56:00.000Z"></span>No, it is not possible to have both the 2010 and 2006 toolbar. You could however ask for an script that adds the missing buttons to the 2010 toolbar, which would be the hidden comment, quote and horizontal line.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Snaevar" title="User:Snaevar">Snaevar</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Snaevar" title="User talk:Snaevar">talk</a>) 16:53, 3 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Snaevar|2019-07-03T16:53:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-03T02:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Timeshifter|2019-07-04T05:20:00.000Z|Snaevar|2019-07-03T16:53:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-03T16:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Snaevar&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Snaevar|2019-07-03T16:53:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-03T02:56:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Timeshifter|2019-07-04T05:20:00.000Z|Snaevar|2019-07-03T16:53:00.000Z"></span>That's a good idea. I only want the <b>2 buttons for instant link brackets</b> (no intermediary popup). One button for an <b>internal link.</b> And one button for an <b>external link.</b> -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Timeshifter" title="User:Timeshifter"><b>Timeshifter</b></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Timeshifter" title="User talk:Timeshifter">talk</a>) 05:20, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Timeshifter|2019-07-04T05:20:00.000Z|Snaevar|2019-07-03T16:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T05:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Timeshifter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Timeshifter|2019-07-04T05:20:00.000Z|Snaevar|2019-07-03T16:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Timeshifter|2019-07-03T02:56:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T09:36:00.000Z"></span>Anybody? Is this technically feasible? -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Timeshifter" title="User:Timeshifter"><b>Timeshifter</b></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Timeshifter" title="User talk:Timeshifter">talk</a>) 02:56, 3 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Timeshifter|2019-07-03T02:56:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T09:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Snaevar|2019-07-03T16:53:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-03T02:56:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-03T02:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Timeshifter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Timeshifter|2019-07-03T02:56:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-01T09:36:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Snaevar|2019-07-03T16:53:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-03T02:56:00.000Z"></span>No, it is not possible to have both the 2010 and 2006 toolbar. You could however ask for an script that adds the missing buttons to the 2010 toolbar, which would be the hidden comment, quote and horizontal line.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Snaevar" title="User:Snaevar">Snaevar</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Snaevar" title="User talk:Snaevar">talk</a>) 16:53, 3 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Snaevar|2019-07-03T16:53:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-03T02:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Timeshifter|2019-07-04T05:20:00.000Z|Snaevar|2019-07-03T16:53:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-03T16:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Snaevar&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Snaevar|2019-07-03T16:53:00.000Z|Timeshifter|2019-07-03T02:56:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Timeshifter|2019-07-04T05:20:00.000Z|Snaevar|2019-07-03T16:53:00.000Z"></span>That's a good idea. I only want the <b>2 buttons for instant link brackets</b> (no intermediary popup). One button for an <b>internal link.</b> And one button for an <b>external link.</b> -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Timeshifter" title="User:Timeshifter"><b>Timeshifter</b></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Timeshifter" title="User talk:Timeshifter">talk</a>) 05:20, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Timeshifter|2019-07-04T05:20:00.000Z|Snaevar|2019-07-03T16:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T05:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Timeshifter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Timeshifter|2019-07-04T05:20:00.000Z|Snaevar|2019-07-03T16:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id="Discussion_at_Wikipedia:Teahouse.23Two_questions_about_the_WMF.27s_Android_app"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Discussion_at_Wikipedia:Teahouse#Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Discussion_at_Wikipedia:Teahouse#Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app|2019-07-04T04:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Airbornemihir|2019-07-04T04:32:00.000Z|Discussion_at_Wikipedia:Teahouse#Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app&quot;,&quot;h|Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app|Discussion_at_Wikipedia:Teahouse#Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app|2019-07-01T03:22:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Discussion_at_Wikipedia:Teahouse#Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app|2019-07-04T04:32:00.000Z"></span>Discussion at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse#Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app" title="Wikipedia:Teahouse">Wikipedia:Teahouse#Two questions about the WMF's Android app </a><span data-mw-comment-end="h|Discussion_at_Wikipedia:Teahouse#Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app|2019-07-04T04:32:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Airbornemihir|2019-07-04T04:32:00.000Z|Discussion_at_Wikipedia:Teahouse#Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Farm-Fresh_eye.png/15px-Farm-Fresh_eye.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Farm-Fresh_eye.png/23px-Farm-Fresh_eye.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Farm-Fresh_eye.png/30px-Farm-Fresh_eye.png 2x" data-file-width="32" data-file-height="32"/> You are invited to join the discussion at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse#Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app" title="Wikipedia:Teahouse">Wikipedia:Teahouse#Two questions about the WMF's Android app </a>.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Airbornemihir" title="User:Airbornemihir">Airbornemihir</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Airbornemihir" title="User talk:Airbornemihir">talk</a>) 04:32, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Airbornemihir|2019-07-04T04:32:00.000Z|Discussion_at_Wikipedia:Teahouse#Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Orville|2019-07-04T05:28:00.000Z|Airbornemihir|2019-07-04T04:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T04:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Airbornemihir&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Airbornemihir|2019-07-04T04:32:00.000Z|Discussion_at_Wikipedia:Teahouse#Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Airbornemihir|2019-07-04T04:32:00.000Z|Discussion_at_Wikipedia:Teahouse#Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Farm-Fresh_eye.png/15px-Farm-Fresh_eye.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Farm-Fresh_eye.png/23px-Farm-Fresh_eye.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Farm-Fresh_eye.png/30px-Farm-Fresh_eye.png 2x" data-file-width="32" data-file-height="32"/> You are invited to join the discussion at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse#Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app" title="Wikipedia:Teahouse">Wikipedia:Teahouse#Two questions about the WMF's Android app </a>.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Airbornemihir" title="User:Airbornemihir">Airbornemihir</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Airbornemihir" title="User talk:Airbornemihir">talk</a>) 04:32, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Airbornemihir|2019-07-04T04:32:00.000Z|Discussion_at_Wikipedia:Teahouse#Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Orville|2019-07-04T05:28:00.000Z|Airbornemihir|2019-07-04T04:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T04:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Airbornemihir&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Airbornemihir|2019-07-04T04:32:00.000Z|Discussion_at_Wikipedia:Teahouse#Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Orville|2019-07-04T05:28:00.000Z|Airbornemihir|2019-07-04T04:32:00.000Z"></span>VVVV I've posted the question asked by Airbornemihir in its own section directly below this section. VVV <b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Orville" title="User:Orville"><span style="color: darkred;">Orville</span></a></b><sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orville" title="User talk:Orville">talk</a></sup> 05:28, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Orville|2019-07-04T05:28:00.000Z|Airbornemihir|2019-07-04T04:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T05:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Orville&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Orville|2019-07-04T05:28:00.000Z|Airbornemihir|2019-07-04T04:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Orville|2019-07-04T05:28:00.000Z|Airbornemihir|2019-07-04T04:32:00.000Z"></span>VVVV I've posted the question asked by Airbornemihir in its own section directly below this section. VVV <b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Orville" title="User:Orville"><span style="color: darkred;">Orville</span></a></b><sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orville" title="User talk:Orville">talk</a></sup> 05:28, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Orville|2019-07-04T05:28:00.000Z|Airbornemihir|2019-07-04T04:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T05:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Orville&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Orville|2019-07-04T05:28:00.000Z|Airbornemihir|2019-07-04T04:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <h3><span id="Two_questions_about_the_WMF.27s_Android_app"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app|Discussion_at_Wikipedia:Teahouse#Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app|2019-07-01T03:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Orville|2019-07-04T05:21:00.000Z|Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app&quot;,&quot;c|Airbornemihir|2019-07-01T03:22:00.000Z|Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app&quot;,&quot;c|Orville|2019-07-04T05:21:00.000Z|Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app|1&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:3,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app|Discussion_at_Wikipedia:Teahouse#Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app|2019-07-01T03:22:00.000Z"></span>Two questions about the WMF's Android app<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app|Discussion_at_Wikipedia:Teahouse#Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app|2019-07-01T03:22:00.000Z"></span></span></h3>
 <p><i><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Orville|2019-07-04T05:21:00.000Z|Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app"></span>The following questions have been copied from the Teahouse. The editor below has technical questions we are unable to answer there, and I'm hoping editors here can provide Airbornemihir with assistance.</i> <b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Orville" title="User:Orville"><span style="color: darkred;">Orville</span></a></b><sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orville" title="User talk:Orville">talk</a></sup> 05:21, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<br/>
-I'm aware that it's a <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H:FIES" class="mw-redirect" title="H:FIES">good practice</a> to leave edit summaries, but I'm nonetheless curious about the official Android app apparently preventing an edit from going through if the edit summary is left blank. Is this an intended limitation of the app, or is there something I'm missing?<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Orville|2019-07-04T05:21:00.000Z|Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T05:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Orville&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Orville|2019-07-04T05:21:00.000Z|Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app"></span>
-</p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Airbornemihir|2019-07-01T03:22:00.000Z|Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app"></span>Tangentially related question: the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedia_mobile_applications" title="List of Wikipedia mobile applications">list of Wikipedia mobile applications</a> states that the Android app cannot open talk pages, but this doesn't seem to be true of the current version of the app which can open any page when looked up with the correct namespace. Is that something that should be updated? (Please ping when replying.) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Airbornemihir" title="User:Airbornemihir">Airbornemihir</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Airbornemihir" title="User talk:Airbornemihir">talk</a>) 03:22, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Airbornemihir|2019-07-01T03:22:00.000Z|Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T03:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Airbornemihir&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Airbornemihir|2019-07-01T03:22:00.000Z|Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app"></span>
-</p><p><i><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Orville|2019-07-04T05:21:00.000Z|Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app|1"></span>The above questions have been copied from the Teahouse. The editor above has technical questions we are unable to answer there, and I'm hoping knowledgeable editors here can provide Airbornemihir with assistance.</i> <span class="nowrap"><img alt="Face-smile.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/18px-Face-smile.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/27px-Face-smile.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/36px-Face-smile.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/> <b>Thank you</b></span> <b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Orville" title="User:Orville"><span style="color: darkred;">Orville</span></a></b><sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orville" title="User talk:Orville">talk</a></sup> 05:21, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Orville|2019-07-04T05:21:00.000Z|Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app|1&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RainFall|2019-07-04T07:27:00.000Z|Orville|2019-07-04T05:21:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T05:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Orville&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Orville|2019-07-04T05:21:00.000Z|Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app|1"></span>
+I'm aware that it's a <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H:FIES" class="mw-redirect" title="H:FIES">good practice</a> to leave edit summaries, but I'm nonetheless curious about the official Android app apparently preventing an edit from going through if the edit summary is left blank. Is this an intended limitation of the app, or is there something I'm missing?<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Orville|2019-07-04T05:21:00.000Z|Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T05:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Orville&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Orville|2019-07-04T05:21:00.000Z|Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app"></span>
+</p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Airbornemihir|2019-07-01T03:22:00.000Z|Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app"></span>Tangentially related question: the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedia_mobile_applications" title="List of Wikipedia mobile applications">list of Wikipedia mobile applications</a> states that the Android app cannot open talk pages, but this doesn't seem to be true of the current version of the app which can open any page when looked up with the correct namespace. Is that something that should be updated? (Please ping when replying.) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Airbornemihir" title="User:Airbornemihir">Airbornemihir</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Airbornemihir" title="User talk:Airbornemihir">talk</a>) 03:22, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Airbornemihir|2019-07-01T03:22:00.000Z|Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T03:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Airbornemihir&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Airbornemihir|2019-07-01T03:22:00.000Z|Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app"></span>
+</p><p><i><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Orville|2019-07-04T05:21:00.000Z|Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app|1"></span>The above questions have been copied from the Teahouse. The editor above has technical questions we are unable to answer there, and I'm hoping knowledgeable editors here can provide Airbornemihir with assistance.</i> <span class="nowrap"><img alt="Face-smile.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/18px-Face-smile.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/27px-Face-smile.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/36px-Face-smile.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/> <b>Thank you</b></span> <b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Orville" title="User:Orville"><span style="color: darkred;">Orville</span></a></b><sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Orville" title="User talk:Orville">talk</a></sup> 05:21, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Orville|2019-07-04T05:21:00.000Z|Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app|1&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RainFall|2019-07-04T07:27:00.000Z|Orville|2019-07-04T05:21:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T05:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Orville&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Orville|2019-07-04T05:21:00.000Z|Two_questions_about_the_WMF's_Android_app|1"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RainFall|2019-07-04T07:27:00.000Z|Orville|2019-07-04T05:21:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Airbornemihir" title="User:Airbornemihir">Airbornemihir</a>:</span> Uhm, are you sure you are using the latest version? I just published <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/904743658" title="Special:Diff/904743658">this edit</a> without an edit summary using the official Wikipedia app for Android. Also, the app is technically able to show talk pages, but it treats them as "normal" articles. I think the article (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedia_mobile_applications" title="List of Wikipedia mobile applications">List of Wikipedia mobile applications</a>) is referring to the "View talk page" option placed at the bottom of every page—<b>including talk pages</b>... yep—which the app doesn't yet "handle." —<b style="font-variant: all-small-caps;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RainFall" class="mw-redirect" title="User:RainFall"><b style="background: black; color:white; padding: 1.5px 0 1.5px 4px;">Rain</b></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RainFall" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:RainFall"><b style="background: #545454; color:white; padding: 1.5px 4px 1.5px 0">Fall</b></a></b> 07:27, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RainFall|2019-07-04T07:27:00.000Z|Orville|2019-07-04T05:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Airbornemihir|2019-07-04T07:46:00.000Z|RainFall|2019-07-04T07:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T07:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RainFall&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RainFall|2019-07-04T07:27:00.000Z|Orville|2019-07-04T05:21:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Airbornemihir|2019-07-04T07:46:00.000Z|RainFall|2019-07-04T07:27:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RainFall" class="mw-redirect" title="User:RainFall">RainFall</a>:</span> Thanks, I've noticed too that talk page links open by default in a different app, which is probably the intended meaning as you said. Regarding blank edit summaries, do you not get stuck during the edit at the place where it asks "How did you improve the article?" I can't seem to move on from there without either picking one of the canned edit summaries or writing one myself. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Airbornemihir" title="User:Airbornemihir">Airbornemihir</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Airbornemihir" title="User talk:Airbornemihir">talk</a>) 07:46, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Airbornemihir|2019-07-04T07:46:00.000Z|RainFall|2019-07-04T07:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RainFall|2019-07-04T07:52:00.000Z|Airbornemihir|2019-07-04T07:46:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T07:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Airbornemihir&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Airbornemihir|2019-07-04T07:46:00.000Z|RainFall|2019-07-04T07:27:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RainFall|2019-07-04T07:52:00.000Z|Airbornemihir|2019-07-04T07:46:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Airbornemihir" title="User:Airbornemihir">Airbornemihir</a>:</span> Yes, I did see the "How did you improve the article?" page; I tapped "Publish" leaving everything else untouched and it worked... <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/904746382" title="Special:Diff/904746382">again</a>. —<b style="font-variant: all-small-caps;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RainFall" class="mw-redirect" title="User:RainFall"><b style="background: black; color:white; padding: 1.5px 0 1.5px 4px;">Rain</b></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RainFall" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:RainFall"><b style="background: #545454; color:white; padding: 1.5px 4px 1.5px 0">Fall</b></a></b> 07:52, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RainFall|2019-07-04T07:52:00.000Z|Airbornemihir|2019-07-04T07:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Airbornemihir|2019-07-04T08:08:00.000Z|RainFall|2019-07-04T07:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T07:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RainFall&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RainFall|2019-07-04T07:52:00.000Z|Airbornemihir|2019-07-04T07:46:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Airbornemihir|2019-07-04T08:08:00.000Z|RainFall|2019-07-04T07:52:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RainFall" class="mw-redirect" title="User:RainFall">RainFall</a>:</span> OK, it looks like it <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/904747439" title="Special:Diff/904747439">worked for me</a> too. I'm not sure what was going on before. I edited the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/904747686#Wikimedia_Foundation" title="Special:PermanentLink/904747686">smartphone apps page</a> to better reflect what the app can do, as well. Thanks everyone for your help. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Airbornemihir" title="User:Airbornemihir">Airbornemihir</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Airbornemihir" title="User talk:Airbornemihir">talk</a>) 08:08, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Airbornemihir|2019-07-04T08:08:00.000Z|RainFall|2019-07-04T07:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T08:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Airbornemihir&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Airbornemihir|2019-07-04T08:08:00.000Z|RainFall|2019-07-04T07:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RainFall|2019-07-04T07:27:00.000Z|Orville|2019-07-04T05:21:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Airbornemihir" title="User:Airbornemihir">Airbornemihir</a>:</span> Uhm, are you sure you are using the latest version? I just published <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/904743658" title="Special:Diff/904743658">this edit</a> without an edit summary using the official Wikipedia app for Android. Also, the app is technically able to show talk pages, but it treats them as "normal" articles. I think the article (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedia_mobile_applications" title="List of Wikipedia mobile applications">List of Wikipedia mobile applications</a>) is referring to the "View talk page" option placed at the bottom of every page—<b>including talk pages</b>... yep—which the app doesn't yet "handle." —<b style="font-variant: all-small-caps;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RainFall" class="mw-redirect" title="User:RainFall"><b style="background: black; color:white; padding: 1.5px 0 1.5px 4px;">Rain</b></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RainFall" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:RainFall"><b style="background: #545454; color:white; padding: 1.5px 4px 1.5px 0">Fall</b></a></b> 07:27, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RainFall|2019-07-04T07:27:00.000Z|Orville|2019-07-04T05:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Airbornemihir|2019-07-04T07:46:00.000Z|RainFall|2019-07-04T07:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T07:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RainFall&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RainFall|2019-07-04T07:27:00.000Z|Orville|2019-07-04T05:21:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Airbornemihir|2019-07-04T07:46:00.000Z|RainFall|2019-07-04T07:27:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RainFall" class="mw-redirect" title="User:RainFall">RainFall</a>:</span> Thanks, I've noticed too that talk page links open by default in a different app, which is probably the intended meaning as you said. Regarding blank edit summaries, do you not get stuck during the edit at the place where it asks "How did you improve the article?" I can't seem to move on from there without either picking one of the canned edit summaries or writing one myself. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Airbornemihir" title="User:Airbornemihir">Airbornemihir</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Airbornemihir" title="User talk:Airbornemihir">talk</a>) 07:46, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Airbornemihir|2019-07-04T07:46:00.000Z|RainFall|2019-07-04T07:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RainFall|2019-07-04T07:52:00.000Z|Airbornemihir|2019-07-04T07:46:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T07:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Airbornemihir&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Airbornemihir|2019-07-04T07:46:00.000Z|RainFall|2019-07-04T07:27:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RainFall|2019-07-04T07:52:00.000Z|Airbornemihir|2019-07-04T07:46:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Airbornemihir" title="User:Airbornemihir">Airbornemihir</a>:</span> Yes, I did see the "How did you improve the article?" page; I tapped "Publish" leaving everything else untouched and it worked... <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/904746382" title="Special:Diff/904746382">again</a>. —<b style="font-variant: all-small-caps;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RainFall" class="mw-redirect" title="User:RainFall"><b style="background: black; color:white; padding: 1.5px 0 1.5px 4px;">Rain</b></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RainFall" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:RainFall"><b style="background: #545454; color:white; padding: 1.5px 4px 1.5px 0">Fall</b></a></b> 07:52, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RainFall|2019-07-04T07:52:00.000Z|Airbornemihir|2019-07-04T07:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Airbornemihir|2019-07-04T08:08:00.000Z|RainFall|2019-07-04T07:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T07:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RainFall&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RainFall|2019-07-04T07:52:00.000Z|Airbornemihir|2019-07-04T07:46:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Airbornemihir|2019-07-04T08:08:00.000Z|RainFall|2019-07-04T07:52:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RainFall" class="mw-redirect" title="User:RainFall">RainFall</a>:</span> OK, it looks like it <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/904747439" title="Special:Diff/904747439">worked for me</a> too. I'm not sure what was going on before. I edited the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/904747686#Wikimedia_Foundation" title="Special:PermanentLink/904747686">smartphone apps page</a> to better reflect what the app can do, as well. Thanks everyone for your help. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Airbornemihir" title="User:Airbornemihir">Airbornemihir</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Airbornemihir" title="User talk:Airbornemihir">talk</a>) 08:08, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Airbornemihir|2019-07-04T08:08:00.000Z|RainFall|2019-07-04T07:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T08:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Airbornemihir&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Airbornemihir|2019-07-04T08:08:00.000Z|RainFall|2019-07-04T07:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Andrybak|2019-07-03T21:37:00.000Z|Has_syntax_highlighting_CSS_just_changed?"></span>I just noticed that the gap between lines in "Syntax highlighting" mode in the wikitext editor suddenly became wider. Was it a glitch of my browser not loading CSS properly, or did it actually change? —⁠<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Andrybak" title="User:Andrybak">andrybak</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Andrybak" title="User talk:Andrybak">talk</a>) 21:37, 3 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Andrybak|2019-07-03T21:37:00.000Z|Has_syntax_highlighting_CSS_just_changed?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-03T22:28:00.000Z|Andrybak|2019-07-03T21:37:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-03T21:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Andrybak&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Andrybak|2019-07-03T21:37:00.000Z|Has_syntax_highlighting_CSS_just_changed?"></span>
+<div role="note" style="margin: 1em;" class="unresolved"><span style="border: 1px solid #aaa; background-color: #fcf9f9; margin-right: 0.5em; padding: 0.5em;"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Purple_arrow_down.svg/20px-Purple_arrow_down.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Purple_arrow_down.svg/30px-Purple_arrow_down.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Purple_arrow_down.svg/40px-Purple_arrow_down.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> Moved from <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)/Archive_62#Has_syntax_highlighting_CSS_just_changed?" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)/Archive 62">Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)/Archive 62 § Has syntax highlighting CSS just changed?</a>:</span> <span style="font-size: 85%">―<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mandruss" title="User:Mandruss"><span style="color:#775C57;"><i><b>Mandruss</b></i></span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mandruss" title="User talk:Mandruss"><span style="color:#888;">☎</span></a> 21:58, 3 July 2019 (UTC)<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Mandruss|2019-07-03T21:58:00.000Z|Has_syntax_highlighting_CSS_just_changed?"></span></span><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mandruss|2019-07-03T21:58:00.000Z|Has_syntax_highlighting_CSS_just_changed?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-03T21:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mandruss&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></div>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Andrybak|2019-07-03T21:37:00.000Z|Has_syntax_highlighting_CSS_just_changed?"></span>I just noticed that the gap between lines in "Syntax highlighting" mode in the wikitext editor suddenly became wider. Was it a glitch of my browser not loading CSS properly, or did it actually change? —⁠<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Andrybak" title="User:Andrybak">andrybak</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Andrybak" title="User talk:Andrybak">talk</a>) 21:37, 3 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Andrybak|2019-07-03T21:37:00.000Z|Has_syntax_highlighting_CSS_just_changed?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-03T22:28:00.000Z|Andrybak|2019-07-03T21:37:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-03T21:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Andrybak&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Andrybak|2019-07-03T21:37:00.000Z|Has_syntax_highlighting_CSS_just_changed?"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-03T22:28:00.000Z|Andrybak|2019-07-03T21:37:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Andrebak&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Andrebak (page does not exist)">Andrebak</a>:</span> can you be a bit more specific, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Syntax_highlighting" class="mw-disambig" title="Wikipedia:Syntax highlighting">Wikipedia:Syntax highlighting</a> doesn't usually get used in .css pages, which use the code editor (not the source editor).  Is this still occurring?  Can you share the edit link you are using? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 22:28, 3 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-03T22:28:00.000Z|Andrybak|2019-07-03T21:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-04T09:43:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-03T22:28:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-03T22:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-03T22:28:00.000Z|Andrybak|2019-07-03T21:37:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-04T09:43:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-03T22:28:00.000Z"></span>I guess <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Andrybak" title="User:Andrybak">andrybak</a> was not editing a CSS page but just speculating that styling from some CSS file was not working properly when editing a normal wikitext page. If you refer to the highlighter marker button <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Codemirror-icon.png" class="image"><img alt="Codemirror-icon.png" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Codemirror-icon.png/20px-Codemirror-icon.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Codemirror-icon.png/30px-Codemirror-icon.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Codemirror-icon.png/40px-Codemirror-icon.png 2x" data-file-width="410" data-file-height="410"/></a> to the left of "Advanced" in a toolbar then it doesn't change spacing for me in Google Chrome 75.0.3770.100. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 09:43, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-04T09:43:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-03T22:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Andrybak|2019-07-04T10:12:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-04T09:43:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T09:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-04T09:43:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-03T22:28:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Andrybak|2019-07-04T10:12:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-04T09:43:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a>:</span> Yes, but for me it has changed in the same mode (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Codemirror-icon.png" class="image"><img alt="Codemirror-icon.png" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Codemirror-icon.png/20px-Codemirror-icon.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Codemirror-icon.png/30px-Codemirror-icon.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Codemirror-icon.png/40px-Codemirror-icon.png 2x" data-file-width="410" data-file-height="410"/></a> turned on), but between different pages. It changed between two different gap sizes since then, so I think that it was just some networking issue when loading CSS. —⁠<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Andrybak" title="User:Andrybak">andrybak</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Andrybak" title="User talk:Andrybak">talk</a>) 10:12, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Andrybak|2019-07-04T10:12:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-04T09:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T10:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Andrybak&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Andrybak|2019-07-04T10:12:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-04T09:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-03T22:28:00.000Z|Andrybak|2019-07-03T21:37:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Andrebak&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Andrebak (page does not exist)">Andrebak</a>:</span> can you be a bit more specific, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Syntax_highlighting" class="mw-disambig" title="Wikipedia:Syntax highlighting">Wikipedia:Syntax highlighting</a> doesn't usually get used in .css pages, which use the code editor (not the source editor).  Is this still occurring?  Can you share the edit link you are using? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 22:28, 3 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-03T22:28:00.000Z|Andrybak|2019-07-03T21:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-04T09:43:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-03T22:28:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-03T22:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-03T22:28:00.000Z|Andrybak|2019-07-03T21:37:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-04T09:43:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-03T22:28:00.000Z"></span>I guess <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Andrybak" title="User:Andrybak">andrybak</a> was not editing a CSS page but just speculating that styling from some CSS file was not working properly when editing a normal wikitext page. If you refer to the highlighter marker button <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Codemirror-icon.png" class="image"><img alt="Codemirror-icon.png" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Codemirror-icon.png/20px-Codemirror-icon.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Codemirror-icon.png/30px-Codemirror-icon.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Codemirror-icon.png/40px-Codemirror-icon.png 2x" data-file-width="410" data-file-height="410"/></a> to the left of "Advanced" in a toolbar then it doesn't change spacing for me in Google Chrome 75.0.3770.100. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 09:43, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-04T09:43:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-03T22:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Andrybak|2019-07-04T10:12:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-04T09:43:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T09:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-04T09:43:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-03T22:28:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Andrybak|2019-07-04T10:12:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-04T09:43:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a>:</span> Yes, but for me it has changed in the same mode (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Codemirror-icon.png" class="image"><img alt="Codemirror-icon.png" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Codemirror-icon.png/20px-Codemirror-icon.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Codemirror-icon.png/30px-Codemirror-icon.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Codemirror-icon.png/40px-Codemirror-icon.png 2x" data-file-width="410" data-file-height="410"/></a> turned on), but between different pages. It changed between two different gap sizes since then, so I think that it was just some networking issue when loading CSS. —⁠<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Andrybak" title="User:Andrybak">andrybak</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Andrybak" title="User talk:Andrybak">talk</a>) 10:12, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Andrybak|2019-07-04T10:12:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-04T09:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T10:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Andrybak&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Andrybak|2019-07-04T10:12:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-04T09:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Strange_google_capitalization_for_Life" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Strange_google_capitalization_for_Life|2019-07-04T11:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Luk|2019-07-04T11:27:00.000Z|Strange_google_capitalization_for_Life&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Strange_google_capitalization_for_Life|2019-07-04T11:27:00.000Z"></span>Strange google capitalization for <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life" title="Life">Life</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h|Strange_google_capitalization_for_Life|2019-07-04T11:27:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Luk|2019-07-04T11:27:00.000Z|Strange_google_capitalization_for_Life"></span>A user (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Console.frog&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Console.frog (page does not exist)">Console.frog</a>) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Life#This_article_sometimes_displays_as_&quot;life_on_Earth&quot;_in_search_results" title="Talk:Life">noted</a> that when searching for "life on earth" on Google, the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life" title="Life">Life</a> article appears in the middle of page 1 under the title <i>life on Earth</i>. This expression appears several times in the article but I can't figure out why the correct title is not brought up, and more importantly why "life" is not capitalized properly. Do you think there is something on our side causing this? -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Luk" title="User:Luk"><span style="color:#002BB8;">Luk</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Luk" title="User talk:Luk"><span style="color:#009900;">talk</span></a></sup> 11:27, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Luk|2019-07-04T11:27:00.000Z|Strange_google_capitalization_for_Life&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Andrybak|2019-07-04T11:59:00.000Z|Luk|2019-07-04T11:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T11:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Luk&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Luk|2019-07-04T11:27:00.000Z|Strange_google_capitalization_for_Life"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Luk|2019-07-04T11:27:00.000Z|Strange_google_capitalization_for_Life"></span>A user (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Console.frog&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Console.frog (page does not exist)">Console.frog</a>) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Life#This_article_sometimes_displays_as_&quot;life_on_Earth&quot;_in_search_results" title="Talk:Life">noted</a> that when searching for "life on earth" on Google, the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life" title="Life">Life</a> article appears in the middle of page 1 under the title <i>life on Earth</i>. This expression appears several times in the article but I can't figure out why the correct title is not brought up, and more importantly why "life" is not capitalized properly. Do you think there is something on our side causing this? -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Luk" title="User:Luk"><span style="color:#002BB8;">Luk</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Luk" title="User talk:Luk"><span style="color:#009900;">talk</span></a></sup> 11:27, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Luk|2019-07-04T11:27:00.000Z|Strange_google_capitalization_for_Life&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Andrybak|2019-07-04T11:59:00.000Z|Luk|2019-07-04T11:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T11:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Luk&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Luk|2019-07-04T11:27:00.000Z|Strange_google_capitalization_for_Life"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Andrybak|2019-07-04T11:59:00.000Z|Luk|2019-07-04T11:27:00.000Z"></span>A datapoint: "life on Earth" appears four times in the preamble, "Life on Earth" appears once in the preamble. —⁠<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Andrybak" title="User:Andrybak">andrybak</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Andrybak" title="User talk:Andrybak">talk</a>) 11:59, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Andrybak|2019-07-04T11:59:00.000Z|Luk|2019-07-04T11:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-04T12:01:00.000Z|Andrybak|2019-07-04T11:59:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T11:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Andrybak&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Andrybak|2019-07-04T11:59:00.000Z|Luk|2019-07-04T11:27:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&amp;search=linksto%3ALife+insource%3A%22life%7Clife+on+earth%22&amp;ns0=1&amp;fulltext=Search"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-04T12:01:00.000Z|Andrybak|2019-07-04T11:59:00.000Z"></span>linksto:Life insource:"life|life on earth"</a></span> finds many articles saying <code> [[life|life on Earth]]</code>. Maybe Google prefers to display this link text when it matches the search. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 12:01, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-04T12:01:00.000Z|Andrybak|2019-07-04T11:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nyttend backup|2019-07-04T13:02:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-04T12:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-04T12:01:00.000Z|Andrybak|2019-07-04T11:59:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Andrybak|2019-07-04T11:59:00.000Z|Luk|2019-07-04T11:27:00.000Z"></span>A datapoint: "life on Earth" appears four times in the preamble, "Life on Earth" appears once in the preamble. —⁠<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Andrybak" title="User:Andrybak">andrybak</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Andrybak" title="User talk:Andrybak">talk</a>) 11:59, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Andrybak|2019-07-04T11:59:00.000Z|Luk|2019-07-04T11:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-04T12:01:00.000Z|Andrybak|2019-07-04T11:59:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T11:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Andrybak&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Andrybak|2019-07-04T11:59:00.000Z|Luk|2019-07-04T11:27:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&amp;search=linksto%3ALife+insource%3A%22life%7Clife+on+earth%22&amp;ns0=1&amp;fulltext=Search"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-04T12:01:00.000Z|Andrybak|2019-07-04T11:59:00.000Z"></span>linksto:Life insource:"life|life on earth"</a></span> finds many articles saying <code> [[life|life on Earth]]</code>. Maybe Google prefers to display this link text when it matches the search. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 12:01, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-04T12:01:00.000Z|Andrybak|2019-07-04T11:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nyttend backup|2019-07-04T13:02:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-04T12:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-04T12:01:00.000Z|Andrybak|2019-07-04T11:59:00.000Z"></span>
 <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nyttend backup|2019-07-04T13:02:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-04T12:01:00.000Z"></span>Situation confirmed; here's what I see with a US IP:</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <pre>life on Earth - Wikipedia
 <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life</a>
 Evidence suggests that life on Earth has existed for at least 3.5 billion years, with the oldest physical traces of life dating back 3.7 billion years; however, some theories, such as the Late Heavy Bombardment theory, suggest that life on Earth may have started even earlier, as early as 4.1–4.4 billion years ago, and ...
 Evolutionary history of life · ‎Timeline of the evolutionary ... · ‎Earliest known life forms
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-<dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>I'm using Internet Explorer, if that matters at all (or even if it doesn't).  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend_backup" title="User:Nyttend backup">Nyttend backup</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nyttend_backup" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Nyttend backup">talk</a>) 13:02, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nyttend backup|2019-07-04T13:02:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-04T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T13:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nyttend backup&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nyttend backup|2019-07-04T13:02:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-04T12:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>I'm using Internet Explorer, if that matters at all (or even if it doesn't).  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend_backup" title="User:Nyttend backup">Nyttend backup</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nyttend_backup" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Nyttend backup">talk</a>) 13:02, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nyttend backup|2019-07-04T13:02:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-04T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T13:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nyttend backup&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nyttend backup|2019-07-04T13:02:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-04T12:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Switching_phrases_in_masse" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Switching_phrases_in_masse|2019-07-03T21:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|KAVEBEAR|2019-07-03T21:01:00.000Z|Switching_phrases_in_masse&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Switching_phrases_in_masse|2019-07-03T21:01:00.000Z"></span>Switching phrases in masse<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Switching_phrases_in_masse|2019-07-03T21:01:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|KAVEBEAR|2019-07-03T21:01:00.000Z|Switching_phrases_in_masse"></span>Is there a bot or tool that can replace the phrase Kingdom of Hawaii to Hawaiian Kingdom across Wikipedia without having to edit each page and switch it over? This is just a logistical inquiry before a request for consensus for such a change. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:KAVEBEAR" title="User:KAVEBEAR">KAVEBEAR</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:KAVEBEAR" title="User talk:KAVEBEAR">talk</a>) 21:01, 3 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|KAVEBEAR|2019-07-03T21:01:00.000Z|Switching_phrases_in_masse&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Graeme Bartlett|2019-07-03T23:07:00.000Z|KAVEBEAR|2019-07-03T21:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-03T23:09:00.000Z|KAVEBEAR|2019-07-03T21:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-04T13:19:00.000Z|KAVEBEAR|2019-07-03T21:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-03T21:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;KAVEBEAR&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|KAVEBEAR|2019-07-03T21:01:00.000Z|Switching_phrases_in_masse"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|KAVEBEAR|2019-07-03T21:01:00.000Z|Switching_phrases_in_masse"></span>Is there a bot or tool that can replace the phrase Kingdom of Hawaii to Hawaiian Kingdom across Wikipedia without having to edit each page and switch it over? This is just a logistical inquiry before a request for consensus for such a change. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:KAVEBEAR" title="User:KAVEBEAR">KAVEBEAR</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:KAVEBEAR" title="User talk:KAVEBEAR">talk</a>) 21:01, 3 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|KAVEBEAR|2019-07-03T21:01:00.000Z|Switching_phrases_in_masse&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Graeme Bartlett|2019-07-03T23:07:00.000Z|KAVEBEAR|2019-07-03T21:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-03T23:09:00.000Z|KAVEBEAR|2019-07-03T21:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-04T13:19:00.000Z|KAVEBEAR|2019-07-03T21:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-03T21:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;KAVEBEAR&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|KAVEBEAR|2019-07-03T21:01:00.000Z|Switching_phrases_in_masse"></span>
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-<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AWB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AWB"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Graeme Bartlett|2019-07-03T23:07:00.000Z|KAVEBEAR|2019-07-03T21:01:00.000Z"></span>AWB</a> can do this. It shows up 54 pages, so it should be quite feasible, with about 10 seconds per page to allow manual check it could take 10 minutes. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Graeme_Bartlett" title="User:Graeme Bartlett">Graeme Bartlett</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Graeme_Bartlett" title="User talk:Graeme Bartlett">talk</a>) 23:07, 3 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Graeme Bartlett|2019-07-03T23:07:00.000Z|KAVEBEAR|2019-07-03T21:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-03T23:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Graeme Bartlett&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Graeme Bartlett|2019-07-03T23:07:00.000Z|KAVEBEAR|2019-07-03T21:01:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-07-03T23:09:00.000Z|KAVEBEAR|2019-07-03T21:01:00.000Z"></span>This is not so much a VPT matter as a question for <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BOTREQ" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BOTREQ">WP:BOTREQ</a> - and I see that an identical thread has been posted at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:BOTREQ" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:BOTREQ">WT:BOTREQ</a>, contrary to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:MULTI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MULTI">WP:MULTI</a>. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 23:09, 3 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-03T23:09:00.000Z|KAVEBEAR|2019-07-03T21:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-03T23:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-07-03T23:09:00.000Z|KAVEBEAR|2019-07-03T21:01:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-04T13:19:00.000Z|KAVEBEAR|2019-07-03T21:01:00.000Z"></span>To answer the technical question <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:KAVEBEAR" title="User:KAVEBEAR">KAVEBEAR</a>, no - assuming this phrase appears in the source text it would require creating another version of the source text for each page (which yes a bot could do, but that is how it would do it). The only way around that would have been if the name was actually a template that could be changed once. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 13:19, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-04T13:19:00.000Z|KAVEBEAR|2019-07-03T21:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T13:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-04T13:19:00.000Z|KAVEBEAR|2019-07-03T21:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AWB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AWB"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Graeme Bartlett|2019-07-03T23:07:00.000Z|KAVEBEAR|2019-07-03T21:01:00.000Z"></span>AWB</a> can do this. It shows up 54 pages, so it should be quite feasible, with about 10 seconds per page to allow manual check it could take 10 minutes. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Graeme_Bartlett" title="User:Graeme Bartlett">Graeme Bartlett</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Graeme_Bartlett" title="User talk:Graeme Bartlett">talk</a>) 23:07, 3 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Graeme Bartlett|2019-07-03T23:07:00.000Z|KAVEBEAR|2019-07-03T21:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-03T23:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Graeme Bartlett&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Graeme Bartlett|2019-07-03T23:07:00.000Z|KAVEBEAR|2019-07-03T21:01:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-07-03T23:09:00.000Z|KAVEBEAR|2019-07-03T21:01:00.000Z"></span>This is not so much a VPT matter as a question for <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BOTREQ" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BOTREQ">WP:BOTREQ</a> - and I see that an identical thread has been posted at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:BOTREQ" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:BOTREQ">WT:BOTREQ</a>, contrary to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:MULTI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MULTI">WP:MULTI</a>. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 23:09, 3 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-03T23:09:00.000Z|KAVEBEAR|2019-07-03T21:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-03T23:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-07-03T23:09:00.000Z|KAVEBEAR|2019-07-03T21:01:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-04T13:19:00.000Z|KAVEBEAR|2019-07-03T21:01:00.000Z"></span>To answer the technical question <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:KAVEBEAR" title="User:KAVEBEAR">KAVEBEAR</a>, no - assuming this phrase appears in the source text it would require creating another version of the source text for each page (which yes a bot could do, but that is how it would do it). The only way around that would have been if the name was actually a template that could be changed once. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 13:19, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-04T13:19:00.000Z|KAVEBEAR|2019-07-03T21:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T13:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-04T13:19:00.000Z|KAVEBEAR|2019-07-03T21:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
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-<p>Not sure if this is the correct venue but the tooltip (hovertext) that logged-out readers see for <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antananarivo_stampede" title="Antananarivo stampede">Antananarivo stampede</a> is stuck on an old incorrect version with the wrong date. This has been repeatedly pointed out at main-page errors but no one there knows how to fix it. The article was corrected on 28 June <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Antananarivo_stampede&amp;diff=next&amp;oldid=903777811">[8]</a>. Any help appreciated as this is currently on the main page in the In the News section. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Espresso_Addict" title="User:Espresso Addict">Espresso Addict</a> <small>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Espresso_Addict" title="User talk:Espresso Addict">talk</a>)</small> 23:34, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Espresso Addict|2019-07-04T23:34:00.000Z|Stuck_tooltips&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-07-04T23:48:00.000Z|Espresso Addict|2019-07-04T23:34:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T23:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Espresso Addict&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Espresso Addict|2019-07-04T23:34:00.000Z|Stuck_tooltips"></span>
+<p>Not sure if this is the correct venue but the tooltip (hovertext) that logged-out readers see for <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antananarivo_stampede" title="Antananarivo stampede">Antananarivo stampede</a> is stuck on an old incorrect version with the wrong date. This has been repeatedly pointed out at main-page errors but no one there knows how to fix it. The article was corrected on 28 June <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Antananarivo_stampede&amp;diff=next&amp;oldid=903777811">[8]</a>. Any help appreciated as this is currently on the main page in the In the News section. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Espresso_Addict" title="User:Espresso Addict">Espresso Addict</a> <small>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Espresso_Addict" title="User talk:Espresso Addict">talk</a>)</small> 23:34, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Espresso Addict|2019-07-04T23:34:00.000Z|Stuck_tooltips&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-07-04T23:48:00.000Z|Espresso Addict|2019-07-04T23:34:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T23:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Espresso Addict&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Espresso Addict|2019-07-04T23:34:00.000Z|Stuck_tooltips"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-07-04T23:48:00.000Z|Espresso Addict|2019-07-04T23:34:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Espresso_Addict" title="User:Espresso Addict">Espresso Addict</a>:</span> It's not just that one page. In fact, I'm not sure that the preview has updated for <i>any</i> page since June 28. See <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227033" class="extiw" title="phab:T227033">phab:T227033</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User talk:Suffusion of Yellow">talk</a>) 23:48, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-07-04T23:48:00.000Z|Espresso Addict|2019-07-04T23:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Espresso Addict|2019-07-04T23:52:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-07-04T23:48:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T23:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Suffusion of Yellow&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-07-04T23:48:00.000Z|Espresso Addict|2019-07-04T23:34:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Espresso Addict|2019-07-04T23:52:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-07-04T23:48:00.000Z"></span>Thanks. At least someone is hopefully looking into the issue. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Espresso_Addict" title="User:Espresso Addict">Espresso Addict</a> <small>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Espresso_Addict" title="User talk:Espresso Addict">talk</a>)</small> 23:52, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Espresso Addict|2019-07-04T23:52:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-07-04T23:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T23:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Espresso Addict&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Espresso Addict|2019-07-04T23:52:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-07-04T23:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-07-04T23:48:00.000Z|Espresso Addict|2019-07-04T23:34:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Espresso_Addict" title="User:Espresso Addict">Espresso Addict</a>:</span> It's not just that one page. In fact, I'm not sure that the preview has updated for <i>any</i> page since June 28. See <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227033" class="extiw" title="phab:T227033">phab:T227033</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User:Suffusion of Yellow">Suffusion of Yellow</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suffusion_of_Yellow" title="User talk:Suffusion of Yellow">talk</a>) 23:48, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-07-04T23:48:00.000Z|Espresso Addict|2019-07-04T23:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Espresso Addict|2019-07-04T23:52:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-07-04T23:48:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T23:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Suffusion of Yellow&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-07-04T23:48:00.000Z|Espresso Addict|2019-07-04T23:34:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Espresso Addict|2019-07-04T23:52:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-07-04T23:48:00.000Z"></span>Thanks. At least someone is hopefully looking into the issue. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Espresso_Addict" title="User:Espresso Addict">Espresso Addict</a> <small>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Espresso_Addict" title="User talk:Espresso Addict">talk</a>)</small> 23:52, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Espresso Addict|2019-07-04T23:52:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-07-04T23:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T23:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Espresso Addict&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Espresso Addict|2019-07-04T23:52:00.000Z|Suffusion of Yellow|2019-07-04T23:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Google_Maps_template_not_displaying_accessdates" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Google_Maps_template_not_displaying_accessdates|2019-07-05T14:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Graham87|2019-07-05T14:02:00.000Z|Google_Maps_template_not_displaying_accessdates&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Google_Maps_template_not_displaying_accessdates|2019-07-05T14:02:00.000Z"></span>Google Maps template not displaying accessdates<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Google_Maps_template_not_displaying_accessdates|2019-07-05T14:02:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <div role="note" style="margin: 1em;" class="resolved"><span style="border: 1px solid #aaa; background-color: #f9fcf9; margin-right: 0.5em; padding: 0.5em;"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Graham87|2019-07-05T14:02:00.000Z|Google_Maps_template_not_displaying_accessdates"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/20px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/40px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Resolved</span> </div>
-<p>Why isn't {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Google_maps" title="Template:Google maps">Google maps</a>}} displaying the access date in, for example, the first ref at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bussell_Highway" title="Bussell Highway">Bussell Highway</a>? The use of accessdate in the article seems fine ... and I'm not that good with templates. Thanks for any help! <b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Graham87" title="User:Graham87">Graham</a></b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Graham87" title="User talk:Graham87"><span style="color: green;">87</span></a> 14:02, 5 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Graham87|2019-07-05T14:02:00.000Z|Google_Maps_template_not_displaying_accessdates&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Stryn|2019-07-05T14:18:00.000Z|Graham87|2019-07-05T14:02:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-05T14:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Graham87&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Graham87|2019-07-05T14:02:00.000Z|Google_Maps_template_not_displaying_accessdates"></span>
+<p>Why isn't {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Google_maps" title="Template:Google maps">Google maps</a>}} displaying the access date in, for example, the first ref at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bussell_Highway" title="Bussell Highway">Bussell Highway</a>? The use of accessdate in the article seems fine ... and I'm not that good with templates. Thanks for any help! <b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Graham87" title="User:Graham87">Graham</a></b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Graham87" title="User talk:Graham87"><span style="color: green;">87</span></a> 14:02, 5 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Graham87|2019-07-05T14:02:00.000Z|Google_Maps_template_not_displaying_accessdates&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Stryn|2019-07-05T14:18:00.000Z|Graham87|2019-07-05T14:02:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-05T14:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Graham87&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Graham87|2019-07-05T14:02:00.000Z|Google_Maps_template_not_displaying_accessdates"></span>
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-<dl><dd><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bussell_Highway&amp;type=revision&amp;diff=904917831&amp;oldid=882172082"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Stryn|2019-07-05T14:18:00.000Z|Graham87|2019-07-05T14:02:00.000Z"></span>Fixed</a> the parameter as told in the documentation of the template. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Stryn" title="User:Stryn">Stryn</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stryn" title="User talk:Stryn">talk</a>) 14:18, 5 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Stryn|2019-07-05T14:18:00.000Z|Graham87|2019-07-05T14:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Graham87|2019-07-05T14:47:00.000Z|Stryn|2019-07-05T14:18:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-05T14:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Stryn&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Stryn|2019-07-05T14:18:00.000Z|Graham87|2019-07-05T14:02:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Graham87|2019-07-05T14:47:00.000Z|Stryn|2019-07-05T14:18:00.000Z"></span>Ta muchly ... oops, didn't notice the underline there! One of the perils of not paying attention to punctuation with my <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_reader" title="Screen reader">screen reader</a> ... but seemingly an easy mistake to make, whether you're sighted or not! <b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Graham87" title="User:Graham87">Graham</a></b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Graham87" title="User talk:Graham87"><span style="color: green;">87</span></a> 14:47, 5 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Graham87|2019-07-05T14:47:00.000Z|Stryn|2019-07-05T14:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-05T14:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Graham87&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Graham87|2019-07-05T14:47:00.000Z|Stryn|2019-07-05T14:18:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bussell_Highway&amp;type=revision&amp;diff=904917831&amp;oldid=882172082"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Stryn|2019-07-05T14:18:00.000Z|Graham87|2019-07-05T14:02:00.000Z"></span>Fixed</a> the parameter as told in the documentation of the template. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Stryn" title="User:Stryn">Stryn</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stryn" title="User talk:Stryn">talk</a>) 14:18, 5 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Stryn|2019-07-05T14:18:00.000Z|Graham87|2019-07-05T14:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Graham87|2019-07-05T14:47:00.000Z|Stryn|2019-07-05T14:18:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-05T14:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Stryn&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Stryn|2019-07-05T14:18:00.000Z|Graham87|2019-07-05T14:02:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Graham87|2019-07-05T14:47:00.000Z|Stryn|2019-07-05T14:18:00.000Z"></span>Ta muchly ... oops, didn't notice the underline there! One of the perils of not paying attention to punctuation with my <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_reader" title="Screen reader">screen reader</a> ... but seemingly an easy mistake to make, whether you're sighted or not! <b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Graham87" title="User:Graham87">Graham</a></b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Graham87" title="User talk:Graham87"><span style="color: green;">87</span></a> 14:47, 5 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Graham87|2019-07-05T14:47:00.000Z|Stryn|2019-07-05T14:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-05T14:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Graham87&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Graham87|2019-07-05T14:47:00.000Z|Stryn|2019-07-05T14:18:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|UnderEducatedGeezer|2019-07-04T23:22:00.000Z|Should_be_able_to_set_DESKTOP_to_be_DEFAULT_on_a_laptop_computer,_right?"></span>I hope this is an appropriate place to describe this concern. If not, please advise me where to express it. On my laptop I'd like to be able to set <b>desktop</b> to be my wikipedia <b>preference</b>, so it would be my permanent default view, and mobile view <i>never</i> come up on it.  I am using Firefox 67.0.4 (64-bit) browser on Windows 8.1. The problem I encounter is that when using my laptop computer and searching for something via google, sometimes when I click on a wiki search-find I get a presentation of a wiki article which I have discovered to be a <b>MOBILE</b> wiki presentation, which I <b>don't</b> want. I now finally understand that I can go to the bottom of such an article and click on 'desktop', and I'll get a desktop view, and that setting will also obtain for other wiki articles until I turn my laptop off. But the next time I turn my laptop on, mobile views can again present from google searches, and I have no use for mobile style views. I would think desktop view should be able to be set in <b>Preferences</b>. If that can't be made available in Preferences, is there some other way that I could set <b>DESKTOP</b> to be my wikipedia  permanent <b>default</b> view? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:UnderEducatedGeezer" title="User:UnderEducatedGeezer">UnderEducatedGeezer</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:UnderEducatedGeezer" title="User talk:UnderEducatedGeezer">talk</a>) 23:22, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|UnderEducatedGeezer|2019-07-04T23:22:00.000Z|Should_be_able_to_set_DESKTOP_to_be_DEFAULT_on_a_laptop_computer,_right?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Rchard2scout|2019-07-05T10:13:00.000Z|UnderEducatedGeezer|2019-07-04T23:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Senator2029|2019-07-05T10:55:00.000Z|UnderEducatedGeezer|2019-07-04T23:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Bkonrad|2019-07-05T19:04:00.000Z|UnderEducatedGeezer|2019-07-04T23:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-06T08:57:00.000Z|UnderEducatedGeezer|2019-07-04T23:22:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T23:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;UnderEducatedGeezer&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|UnderEducatedGeezer|2019-07-04T23:22:00.000Z|Should_be_able_to_set_DESKTOP_to_be_DEFAULT_on_a_laptop_computer,_right?"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|UnderEducatedGeezer|2019-07-04T23:22:00.000Z|Should_be_able_to_set_DESKTOP_to_be_DEFAULT_on_a_laptop_computer,_right?"></span>I hope this is an appropriate place to describe this concern. If not, please advise me where to express it. On my laptop I'd like to be able to set <b>desktop</b> to be my wikipedia <b>preference</b>, so it would be my permanent default view, and mobile view <i>never</i> come up on it.  I am using Firefox 67.0.4 (64-bit) browser on Windows 8.1. The problem I encounter is that when using my laptop computer and searching for something via google, sometimes when I click on a wiki search-find I get a presentation of a wiki article which I have discovered to be a <b>MOBILE</b> wiki presentation, which I <b>don't</b> want. I now finally understand that I can go to the bottom of such an article and click on 'desktop', and I'll get a desktop view, and that setting will also obtain for other wiki articles until I turn my laptop off. But the next time I turn my laptop on, mobile views can again present from google searches, and I have no use for mobile style views. I would think desktop view should be able to be set in <b>Preferences</b>. If that can't be made available in Preferences, is there some other way that I could set <b>DESKTOP</b> to be my wikipedia  permanent <b>default</b> view? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:UnderEducatedGeezer" title="User:UnderEducatedGeezer">UnderEducatedGeezer</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:UnderEducatedGeezer" title="User talk:UnderEducatedGeezer">talk</a>) 23:22, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|UnderEducatedGeezer|2019-07-04T23:22:00.000Z|Should_be_able_to_set_DESKTOP_to_be_DEFAULT_on_a_laptop_computer,_right?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Rchard2scout|2019-07-05T10:13:00.000Z|UnderEducatedGeezer|2019-07-04T23:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Senator2029|2019-07-05T10:55:00.000Z|UnderEducatedGeezer|2019-07-04T23:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Bkonrad|2019-07-05T19:04:00.000Z|UnderEducatedGeezer|2019-07-04T23:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-06T08:57:00.000Z|UnderEducatedGeezer|2019-07-04T23:22:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T23:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;UnderEducatedGeezer&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|UnderEducatedGeezer|2019-07-04T23:22:00.000Z|Should_be_able_to_set_DESKTOP_to_be_DEFAULT_on_a_laptop_computer,_right?"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Rchard2scout|2019-07-05T10:13:00.000Z|UnderEducatedGeezer|2019-07-04T23:22:00.000Z"></span>As far as I know, Wikipedia can't automatically switch you from the mobile view to the desktop view. If you're on a phone, and go to the desktop version (en.wikipedia.org), you can be switched to the mobile version (en<b>.m</b>.wikipedia.org), but the other way around doesn't work. Therefore, if you click on a link from somewhere else on the internet to the mobile version (en.m.wikipedia.org), you stay on the mobile version. The easiest way to change this is to remove the <code>.m</code> from the URL. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rchard2scout" title="User:Rchard2scout">rchard2scout</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rchard2scout" title="User talk:Rchard2scout">talk</a>) 10:13, 5 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Rchard2scout|2019-07-05T10:13:00.000Z|UnderEducatedGeezer|2019-07-04T23:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-05T12:25:00.000Z|Rchard2scout|2019-07-05T10:13:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-05T10:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Rchard2scout&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Rchard2scout|2019-07-05T10:13:00.000Z|UnderEducatedGeezer|2019-07-04T23:22:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-07-05T12:25:00.000Z|Rchard2scout|2019-07-05T10:13:00.000Z"></span>That does not work. Trying to remove ".m" without using the appropriate option will redirect you back to the mobile view. The opposite is not true and from the desktop view (without the ".m") accessing the mobile view by simply adding .m is possible. Now, the easiest way to flip the views is to go to the footer of the page and click "Desktop view" or "Mobile view" as you want it. It's cookied, so it sticks for a while, but once the cookie expires, it will reset back to mobile view (if on mobile) and desktop view (if on desktop). Note that these options are incompatible with browser-provided "Enable desktop view" options and will not work on Wikipedia. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 12:25, 5 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-05T12:25:00.000Z|Rchard2scout|2019-07-05T10:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DMacks|2019-07-05T16:47:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-07-05T12:25:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-05T12:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-07-05T12:25:00.000Z|Rchard2scout|2019-07-05T10:13:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DMacks|2019-07-05T16:47:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-07-05T12:25:00.000Z"></span>"It's cookied, so it sticks for a while" is a key bug for me. I made that explicit "Desktop view" setting because I wanted it that way, and it might be a pretty long page I have to scroll through to get to the bottom to (re)change it. My request is that either the cookie have a much longer expiration or that it can be handled by a site (rather than browser) pref. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DMacks" title="User:DMacks">DMacks</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DMacks" title="User talk:DMacks">talk</a>) 16:47, 5 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DMacks|2019-07-05T16:47:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-07-05T12:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-05T17:20:00.000Z|DMacks|2019-07-05T16:47:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-05T16:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DMacks&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DMacks|2019-07-05T16:47:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-07-05T12:25:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-07-05T17:20:00.000Z|DMacks|2019-07-05T16:47:00.000Z"></span>You can make a JS script and add it to your MySkin.js, all you need to do is detect the current URL and if it contains, ".m" and go to the URL + "&amp;mobileaction=toggle_view_desktop", essentially forcing the desktop view. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 17:20, 5 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-05T17:20:00.000Z|DMacks|2019-07-05T16:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ivanvector|2019-07-05T17:27:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-07-05T17:20:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-05T17:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-07-05T17:20:00.000Z|DMacks|2019-07-05T16:47:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ivanvector|2019-07-05T17:27:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-07-05T17:20:00.000Z"></span>That doesn't quite match my experience: for me, just removing the m. is all it takes. On a desktop, that is. But if someone drops a link from the mobile site (like in a diff) and you click on it, then you get the mobile version. I like the script idea. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ivanvector" title="User:Ivanvector">Ivanvector</a> (<sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ivanvector" title="User talk:Ivanvector">Talk</a></sup>/<sub><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ivanvector" title="Special:Contributions/Ivanvector">Edits</a></sub>) 17:27, 5 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ivanvector|2019-07-05T17:27:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-07-05T17:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-05T18:36:00.000Z|Ivanvector|2019-07-05T17:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|DMacks|2019-07-05T18:53:00.000Z|Ivanvector|2019-07-05T17:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-05T17:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ivanvector&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ivanvector|2019-07-05T17:27:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-07-05T17:20:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-07-05T18:36:00.000Z|Ivanvector|2019-07-05T17:27:00.000Z"></span>Yep, if the default view is desktop (as in, how the page first loads), that is how it will work, but instead if your default view is mobile, it will not work. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 18:36, 5 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-05T18:36:00.000Z|Ivanvector|2019-07-05T17:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-05T18:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-07-05T18:36:00.000Z|Ivanvector|2019-07-05T17:27:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DMacks|2019-07-05T18:53:00.000Z|Ivanvector|2019-07-05T17:27:00.000Z"></span>I have a bookmark on my mobile phone that does not have the m. It sometimes takes me to the mobile site, and then I can click the Desktop-site link at the bottom of the page to switch to desktop mode. From then on, for a while, the bookmark takes me to Desktop. But then sometimes it (that same bookmark, with no m) reverts to mobile mode, and I have to click Desktop-site switch it, and then it will again stay that way but only for a while. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DMacks" title="User:DMacks">DMacks</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DMacks" title="User talk:DMacks">talk</a>) 18:53, 5 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DMacks|2019-07-05T18:53:00.000Z|Ivanvector|2019-07-05T17:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ivanvector|2019-07-05T18:58:00.000Z|DMacks|2019-07-05T18:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-05T19:07:00.000Z|DMacks|2019-07-05T18:53:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-05T18:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DMacks&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DMacks|2019-07-05T18:53:00.000Z|Ivanvector|2019-07-05T17:27:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ivanvector|2019-07-05T18:58:00.000Z|DMacks|2019-07-05T18:53:00.000Z"></span>That's how it works for me too. Not a bookmark, but any wikipedia URL I try to load will initially (if I haven't clicked the Desktop link in some time) automatically redirect to the mobile page. Then clicking on the Desktop link will keep me in desktop mode for ... some time, two weeks or a month or so, <i>unless</i> I click on another mobile URL. This is the case whether I check the "always request desktop version" setting in my mobile browser. Above, I was referring only to desktop behaviour, and I have no idea about setting "default view", I didn't know that was a thing. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ivanvector" title="User:Ivanvector">Ivanvector</a> (<sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ivanvector" title="User talk:Ivanvector">Talk</a></sup>/<sub><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ivanvector" title="Special:Contributions/Ivanvector">Edits</a></sub>) 18:58, 5 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ivanvector|2019-07-05T18:58:00.000Z|DMacks|2019-07-05T18:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-05T18:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ivanvector&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ivanvector|2019-07-05T18:58:00.000Z|DMacks|2019-07-05T18:53:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-07-05T19:07:00.000Z|DMacks|2019-07-05T18:53:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DMacks" title="User:DMacks">DMacks</a>:</span> Try bookmarking "<a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;mobileaction=toggle_view_desktop">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;mobileaction=toggle_view_desktop</a>" and using that. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 19:07, 5 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-05T19:07:00.000Z|DMacks|2019-07-05T18:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-05T19:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-07-05T19:07:00.000Z|DMacks|2019-07-05T18:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Senator2029|2019-07-05T10:55:00.000Z|UnderEducatedGeezer|2019-07-04T23:22:00.000Z"></span>I often edit from my phone, but dislike the mobile view because it does not show all items on the page (specifically templates) and the incompatiblity with user scripts (none work). Therefore, I wish for pages to always display in desktop view. <span style="font-family:Palatino,'Palatino Linotype',serif; letter-spacing: .1em;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Senator2029" title="User:Senator2029"><b style="color:#09F;">Senator2029</b></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Senator2029" title="User talk:Senator2029"><b style="color:#09F;">“Talk”</b></a></span>  10:55, 5 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Senator2029|2019-07-05T10:55:00.000Z|UnderEducatedGeezer|2019-07-04T23:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-05T10:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Senator2029&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Senator2029|2019-07-05T10:55:00.000Z|UnderEducatedGeezer|2019-07-04T23:22:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bkonrad|2019-07-05T19:04:00.000Z|UnderEducatedGeezer|2019-07-04T23:22:00.000Z"></span>I often edit on my tablet, and occasionally for no apparent reason it will go to mobile view. This can happen even if I am currently looking at a page in desktop view and click a link on the page. It's very annoying. As <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DMacks" title="User:DMacks">DMacks</a> said, sometimes it's a long page and not that easy to scroll to the bottom of the page. I'd love to have a preference (or even a js hack) that would disable mobile view while I'm logged in regardless of what device or browser I'm using. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bkonrad" title="User:Bkonrad">older</a> ≠ <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bkonrad" title="User talk:Bkonrad">wiser</a> 19:04, 5 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bkonrad|2019-07-05T19:04:00.000Z|UnderEducatedGeezer|2019-07-04T23:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-05T19:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bkonrad&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bkonrad|2019-07-05T19:04:00.000Z|UnderEducatedGeezer|2019-07-04T23:22:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-07-06T08:57:00.000Z|UnderEducatedGeezer|2019-07-04T23:22:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DMacks" title="User:DMacks">DMacks</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ivanvector" title="User:Ivanvector">Ivanvector</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bkonrad" title="User:Bkonrad">Bkonrad</a>,  and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Senator2029" title="User:Senator2029">Senator2029</a>:</span> Hey guys, so I hacked together a script since a lot of you said it was an issue, which should work, <code>{{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Substitution" title="Wikipedia:Substitution">subst</a>:<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Lusc" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Lusc">lusc</a>|User:QEDK/forcedesktop.js}}</code>. Just paste this into your <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MyPage/common.js" title="Special:MyPage/common.js">Special:MyPage/common.js</a> and it should work. I've tried it on my mobile (Android 8.1, Chrome 75) and Desktop (Windows 10, Firefox 67) and it works alright. If you run into any issues, I can try to fix it, but my focus is on AI/ML which is kinda far from web development, but I will surely try to fix it. Hope I could help. Also please note, if the script works ideally, you will not be able to access the mobile site at all, until you remove the script (and purge your cache). --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 08:57, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-06T08:57:00.000Z|UnderEducatedGeezer|2019-07-04T23:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T08:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-07-06T08:57:00.000Z|UnderEducatedGeezer|2019-07-04T23:22:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Rchard2scout|2019-07-05T10:13:00.000Z|UnderEducatedGeezer|2019-07-04T23:22:00.000Z"></span>As far as I know, Wikipedia can't automatically switch you from the mobile view to the desktop view. If you're on a phone, and go to the desktop version (en.wikipedia.org), you can be switched to the mobile version (en<b>.m</b>.wikipedia.org), but the other way around doesn't work. Therefore, if you click on a link from somewhere else on the internet to the mobile version (en.m.wikipedia.org), you stay on the mobile version. The easiest way to change this is to remove the <code>.m</code> from the URL. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rchard2scout" title="User:Rchard2scout">rchard2scout</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rchard2scout" title="User talk:Rchard2scout">talk</a>) 10:13, 5 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Rchard2scout|2019-07-05T10:13:00.000Z|UnderEducatedGeezer|2019-07-04T23:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-05T12:25:00.000Z|Rchard2scout|2019-07-05T10:13:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-05T10:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Rchard2scout&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Rchard2scout|2019-07-05T10:13:00.000Z|UnderEducatedGeezer|2019-07-04T23:22:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-07-05T12:25:00.000Z|Rchard2scout|2019-07-05T10:13:00.000Z"></span>That does not work. Trying to remove ".m" without using the appropriate option will redirect you back to the mobile view. The opposite is not true and from the desktop view (without the ".m") accessing the mobile view by simply adding .m is possible. Now, the easiest way to flip the views is to go to the footer of the page and click "Desktop view" or "Mobile view" as you want it. It's cookied, so it sticks for a while, but once the cookie expires, it will reset back to mobile view (if on mobile) and desktop view (if on desktop). Note that these options are incompatible with browser-provided "Enable desktop view" options and will not work on Wikipedia. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 12:25, 5 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-05T12:25:00.000Z|Rchard2scout|2019-07-05T10:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DMacks|2019-07-05T16:47:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-07-05T12:25:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-05T12:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-07-05T12:25:00.000Z|Rchard2scout|2019-07-05T10:13:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DMacks|2019-07-05T16:47:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-07-05T12:25:00.000Z"></span>"It's cookied, so it sticks for a while" is a key bug for me. I made that explicit "Desktop view" setting because I wanted it that way, and it might be a pretty long page I have to scroll through to get to the bottom to (re)change it. My request is that either the cookie have a much longer expiration or that it can be handled by a site (rather than browser) pref. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DMacks" title="User:DMacks">DMacks</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DMacks" title="User talk:DMacks">talk</a>) 16:47, 5 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DMacks|2019-07-05T16:47:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-07-05T12:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-05T17:20:00.000Z|DMacks|2019-07-05T16:47:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-05T16:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DMacks&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DMacks|2019-07-05T16:47:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-07-05T12:25:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-07-05T17:20:00.000Z|DMacks|2019-07-05T16:47:00.000Z"></span>You can make a JS script and add it to your MySkin.js, all you need to do is detect the current URL and if it contains, ".m" and go to the URL + "&amp;mobileaction=toggle_view_desktop", essentially forcing the desktop view. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 17:20, 5 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-05T17:20:00.000Z|DMacks|2019-07-05T16:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ivanvector|2019-07-05T17:27:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-07-05T17:20:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-05T17:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-07-05T17:20:00.000Z|DMacks|2019-07-05T16:47:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ivanvector|2019-07-05T17:27:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-07-05T17:20:00.000Z"></span>That doesn't quite match my experience: for me, just removing the m. is all it takes. On a desktop, that is. But if someone drops a link from the mobile site (like in a diff) and you click on it, then you get the mobile version. I like the script idea. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ivanvector" title="User:Ivanvector">Ivanvector</a> (<sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ivanvector" title="User talk:Ivanvector">Talk</a></sup>/<sub><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ivanvector" title="Special:Contributions/Ivanvector">Edits</a></sub>) 17:27, 5 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ivanvector|2019-07-05T17:27:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-07-05T17:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-05T18:36:00.000Z|Ivanvector|2019-07-05T17:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|DMacks|2019-07-05T18:53:00.000Z|Ivanvector|2019-07-05T17:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-05T17:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ivanvector&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ivanvector|2019-07-05T17:27:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-07-05T17:20:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-07-05T18:36:00.000Z|Ivanvector|2019-07-05T17:27:00.000Z"></span>Yep, if the default view is desktop (as in, how the page first loads), that is how it will work, but instead if your default view is mobile, it will not work. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 18:36, 5 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-05T18:36:00.000Z|Ivanvector|2019-07-05T17:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-05T18:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-07-05T18:36:00.000Z|Ivanvector|2019-07-05T17:27:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DMacks|2019-07-05T18:53:00.000Z|Ivanvector|2019-07-05T17:27:00.000Z"></span>I have a bookmark on my mobile phone that does not have the m. It sometimes takes me to the mobile site, and then I can click the Desktop-site link at the bottom of the page to switch to desktop mode. From then on, for a while, the bookmark takes me to Desktop. But then sometimes it (that same bookmark, with no m) reverts to mobile mode, and I have to click Desktop-site switch it, and then it will again stay that way but only for a while. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DMacks" title="User:DMacks">DMacks</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DMacks" title="User talk:DMacks">talk</a>) 18:53, 5 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DMacks|2019-07-05T18:53:00.000Z|Ivanvector|2019-07-05T17:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ivanvector|2019-07-05T18:58:00.000Z|DMacks|2019-07-05T18:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-05T19:07:00.000Z|DMacks|2019-07-05T18:53:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-05T18:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DMacks&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DMacks|2019-07-05T18:53:00.000Z|Ivanvector|2019-07-05T17:27:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ivanvector|2019-07-05T18:58:00.000Z|DMacks|2019-07-05T18:53:00.000Z"></span>That's how it works for me too. Not a bookmark, but any wikipedia URL I try to load will initially (if I haven't clicked the Desktop link in some time) automatically redirect to the mobile page. Then clicking on the Desktop link will keep me in desktop mode for ... some time, two weeks or a month or so, <i>unless</i> I click on another mobile URL. This is the case whether I check the "always request desktop version" setting in my mobile browser. Above, I was referring only to desktop behaviour, and I have no idea about setting "default view", I didn't know that was a thing. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ivanvector" title="User:Ivanvector">Ivanvector</a> (<sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ivanvector" title="User talk:Ivanvector">Talk</a></sup>/<sub><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ivanvector" title="Special:Contributions/Ivanvector">Edits</a></sub>) 18:58, 5 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ivanvector|2019-07-05T18:58:00.000Z|DMacks|2019-07-05T18:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-05T18:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ivanvector&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ivanvector|2019-07-05T18:58:00.000Z|DMacks|2019-07-05T18:53:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-07-05T19:07:00.000Z|DMacks|2019-07-05T18:53:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DMacks" title="User:DMacks">DMacks</a>:</span> Try bookmarking "<a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;mobileaction=toggle_view_desktop">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;mobileaction=toggle_view_desktop</a>" and using that. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 19:07, 5 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-05T19:07:00.000Z|DMacks|2019-07-05T18:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-05T19:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-07-05T19:07:00.000Z|DMacks|2019-07-05T18:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Senator2029|2019-07-05T10:55:00.000Z|UnderEducatedGeezer|2019-07-04T23:22:00.000Z"></span>I often edit from my phone, but dislike the mobile view because it does not show all items on the page (specifically templates) and the incompatiblity with user scripts (none work). Therefore, I wish for pages to always display in desktop view. <span style="font-family:Palatino,'Palatino Linotype',serif; letter-spacing: .1em;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Senator2029" title="User:Senator2029"><b style="color:#09F;">Senator2029</b></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Senator2029" title="User talk:Senator2029"><b style="color:#09F;">“Talk”</b></a></span>  10:55, 5 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Senator2029|2019-07-05T10:55:00.000Z|UnderEducatedGeezer|2019-07-04T23:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-05T10:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Senator2029&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Senator2029|2019-07-05T10:55:00.000Z|UnderEducatedGeezer|2019-07-04T23:22:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bkonrad|2019-07-05T19:04:00.000Z|UnderEducatedGeezer|2019-07-04T23:22:00.000Z"></span>I often edit on my tablet, and occasionally for no apparent reason it will go to mobile view. This can happen even if I am currently looking at a page in desktop view and click a link on the page. It's very annoying. As <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DMacks" title="User:DMacks">DMacks</a> said, sometimes it's a long page and not that easy to scroll to the bottom of the page. I'd love to have a preference (or even a js hack) that would disable mobile view while I'm logged in regardless of what device or browser I'm using. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bkonrad" title="User:Bkonrad">older</a> ≠ <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bkonrad" title="User talk:Bkonrad">wiser</a> 19:04, 5 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bkonrad|2019-07-05T19:04:00.000Z|UnderEducatedGeezer|2019-07-04T23:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-05T19:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bkonrad&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bkonrad|2019-07-05T19:04:00.000Z|UnderEducatedGeezer|2019-07-04T23:22:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-07-06T08:57:00.000Z|UnderEducatedGeezer|2019-07-04T23:22:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DMacks" title="User:DMacks">DMacks</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ivanvector" title="User:Ivanvector">Ivanvector</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bkonrad" title="User:Bkonrad">Bkonrad</a>,  and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Senator2029" title="User:Senator2029">Senator2029</a>:</span> Hey guys, so I hacked together a script since a lot of you said it was an issue, which should work, <code>{{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Substitution" title="Wikipedia:Substitution">subst</a>:<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Lusc" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Lusc">lusc</a>|User:QEDK/forcedesktop.js}}</code>. Just paste this into your <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MyPage/common.js" title="Special:MyPage/common.js">Special:MyPage/common.js</a> and it should work. I've tried it on my mobile (Android 8.1, Chrome 75) and Desktop (Windows 10, Firefox 67) and it works alright. If you run into any issues, I can try to fix it, but my focus is on AI/ML which is kinda far from web development, but I will surely try to fix it. Hope I could help. Also please note, if the script works ideally, you will not be able to access the mobile site at all, until you remove the script (and purge your cache). --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 08:57, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-06T08:57:00.000Z|UnderEducatedGeezer|2019-07-04T23:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T08:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-07-06T08:57:00.000Z|UnderEducatedGeezer|2019-07-04T23:22:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
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-<ul><li><dl><dd>Missed a few: <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:UnderEducatedGeezer" title="User:UnderEducatedGeezer">UnderEducatedGeezer</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rchard2scout" title="User:Rchard2scout">Rchard2scout</a>:</span>. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 09:00, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-06T09:00:00.000Z|Should_be_able_to_set_DESKTOP_to_be_DEFAULT_on_a_laptop_computer,_right?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-06T09:05:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-07-06T09:00:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T09:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-07-06T09:00:00.000Z|Should_be_able_to_set_DESKTOP_to_be_DEFAULT_on_a_laptop_computer,_right?"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-07-06T09:05:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-07-06T09:00:00.000Z"></span>Working on desktop browsers, working on a fix for mobile browsers. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 09:05, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-06T09:05:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-07-06T09:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-06T09:25:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-07-06T09:05:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T09:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-07-06T09:05:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-07-06T09:00:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-07-06T09:25:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-07-06T09:05:00.000Z"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> <b>Fixed</b> --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 09:25, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-06T09:25:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-07-06T09:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T09:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-07-06T09:25:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-07-06T09:05:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li></ul>
+<ul><li><dl><dd>Missed a few: <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:UnderEducatedGeezer" title="User:UnderEducatedGeezer">UnderEducatedGeezer</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rchard2scout" title="User:Rchard2scout">Rchard2scout</a>:</span>. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 09:00, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-06T09:00:00.000Z|Should_be_able_to_set_DESKTOP_to_be_DEFAULT_on_a_laptop_computer,_right?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-06T09:05:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-07-06T09:00:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T09:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-07-06T09:00:00.000Z|Should_be_able_to_set_DESKTOP_to_be_DEFAULT_on_a_laptop_computer,_right?"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-07-06T09:05:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-07-06T09:00:00.000Z"></span>Working on desktop browsers, working on a fix for mobile browsers. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 09:05, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-06T09:05:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-07-06T09:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-06T09:25:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-07-06T09:05:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T09:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-07-06T09:05:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-07-06T09:00:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-07-06T09:25:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-07-06T09:05:00.000Z"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Pictogram_voting_keep.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_keep.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/> <b>Fixed</b> --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 09:25, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-06T09:25:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-07-06T09:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T09:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-07-06T09:25:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-07-06T09:05:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li></ul>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Izno|2019-07-06T15:42:00.000Z|Should_be_able_to_set_DESKTOP_to_be_DEFAULT_on_a_laptop_computer,_right?"></span>There is some interesting chatter on a related topic at <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214998" class="extiw" title="phab:T214998">phab:T214998</a>. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 15:42, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Izno|2019-07-06T15:42:00.000Z|Should_be_able_to_set_DESKTOP_to_be_DEFAULT_on_a_laptop_computer,_right?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T15:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Izno&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Izno|2019-07-06T15:42:00.000Z|Should_be_able_to_set_DESKTOP_to_be_DEFAULT_on_a_laptop_computer,_right?"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Izno|2019-07-06T15:42:00.000Z|Should_be_able_to_set_DESKTOP_to_be_DEFAULT_on_a_laptop_computer,_right?"></span>There is some interesting chatter on a related topic at <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214998" class="extiw" title="phab:T214998">phab:T214998</a>. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 15:42, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Izno|2019-07-06T15:42:00.000Z|Should_be_able_to_set_DESKTOP_to_be_DEFAULT_on_a_laptop_computer,_right?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T15:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Izno&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Izno|2019-07-06T15:42:00.000Z|Should_be_able_to_set_DESKTOP_to_be_DEFAULT_on_a_laptop_computer,_right?"></span>
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-<div role="note" style="margin: 1em;" class="resolved"><span style="border: 1px solid #aaa; background-color: #f9fcf9; margin-right: 0.5em; padding: 0.5em;"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Deacon Vorbis|2019-07-06T21:29:00.000Z|Page_preview_discrepancy_for_an_ITN_item"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/20px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/40px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Resolved:</span> <span style="font-size: 85%">Thanks for pointing out the post above; closing this due to derpiness –<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Deacon_Vorbis" title="User:Deacon Vorbis">Deacon Vorbis</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deacon_Vorbis" title="User talk:Deacon Vorbis">carbon</a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Deacon_Vorbis" title="Special:Contributions/Deacon Vorbis">videos</a>) 21:29, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Deacon Vorbis|2019-07-06T21:29:00.000Z|Page_preview_discrepancy_for_an_ITN_item"></span></span><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Deacon Vorbis|2019-07-06T21:29:00.000Z|Page_preview_discrepancy_for_an_ITN_item&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T21:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Deacon Vorbis&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></div>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Deacon Vorbis|2019-07-06T20:50:00.000Z|Page_preview_discrepancy_for_an_ITN_item"></span>The page preview for final item (as I'm writing this) on the "In the News" list on the main page (the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antananarivo_stampede" title="Antananarivo stampede">Antananarivo stampede</a>) mentions it occurred on 26 July, despite the article (correctly) saying it was 26 June.  Looking at <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Page_Previews" class="extiw" title="mw:Page Previews">mw:Page Previews</a>, it just says it uses a portion of the opening paragraph, so I have no idea what's causing the discrepancy.  Does anyone know why this is happening and/or how to fix this?  Thanks,  –<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Deacon_Vorbis" title="User:Deacon Vorbis">Deacon Vorbis</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deacon_Vorbis" title="User talk:Deacon Vorbis">carbon</a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Deacon_Vorbis" title="Special:Contributions/Deacon Vorbis">videos</a>) 20:50, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Deacon Vorbis|2019-07-06T20:50:00.000Z|Page_preview_discrepancy_for_an_ITN_item&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-07-06T21:21:00.000Z|Deacon Vorbis|2019-07-06T20:50:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T20:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Deacon Vorbis&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Deacon Vorbis|2019-07-06T20:50:00.000Z|Page_preview_discrepancy_for_an_ITN_item"></span>
+<div role="note" style="margin: 1em;" class="resolved"><span style="border: 1px solid #aaa; background-color: #f9fcf9; margin-right: 0.5em; padding: 0.5em;"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Deacon Vorbis|2019-07-06T21:29:00.000Z|Page_preview_discrepancy_for_an_ITN_item"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/20px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/40px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Resolved:</span> <span style="font-size: 85%">Thanks for pointing out the post above; closing this due to derpiness –<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Deacon_Vorbis" title="User:Deacon Vorbis">Deacon Vorbis</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deacon_Vorbis" title="User talk:Deacon Vorbis">carbon</a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Deacon_Vorbis" title="Special:Contributions/Deacon Vorbis">videos</a>) 21:29, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Deacon Vorbis|2019-07-06T21:29:00.000Z|Page_preview_discrepancy_for_an_ITN_item"></span></span><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Deacon Vorbis|2019-07-06T21:29:00.000Z|Page_preview_discrepancy_for_an_ITN_item&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T21:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Deacon Vorbis&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></div>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Deacon Vorbis|2019-07-06T20:50:00.000Z|Page_preview_discrepancy_for_an_ITN_item"></span>The page preview for final item (as I'm writing this) on the "In the News" list on the main page (the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antananarivo_stampede" title="Antananarivo stampede">Antananarivo stampede</a>) mentions it occurred on 26 July, despite the article (correctly) saying it was 26 June.  Looking at <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Page_Previews" class="extiw" title="mw:Page Previews">mw:Page Previews</a>, it just says it uses a portion of the opening paragraph, so I have no idea what's causing the discrepancy.  Does anyone know why this is happening and/or how to fix this?  Thanks,  –<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Deacon_Vorbis" title="User:Deacon Vorbis">Deacon Vorbis</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deacon_Vorbis" title="User talk:Deacon Vorbis">carbon</a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Deacon_Vorbis" title="Special:Contributions/Deacon Vorbis">videos</a>) 20:50, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Deacon Vorbis|2019-07-06T20:50:00.000Z|Page_preview_discrepancy_for_an_ITN_item&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-07-06T21:21:00.000Z|Deacon Vorbis|2019-07-06T20:50:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T20:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Deacon Vorbis&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Deacon Vorbis|2019-07-06T20:50:00.000Z|Page_preview_discrepancy_for_an_ITN_item"></span>
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-<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Deacon_Vorbis" title="User:Deacon Vorbis"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nyttend|2019-07-06T21:21:00.000Z|Deacon Vorbis|2019-07-06T20:50:00.000Z"></span>User:Deacon Vorbis</a>, see <a href="#Stuck_tooltips">#Stuck tooltips</a> above.  Over at Phabricator, it has an "Unbreak Now!" status, which means "drop everything you're doing and fix this".  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nyttend" title="User talk:Nyttend">talk</a>) 21:21, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-07-06T21:21:00.000Z|Deacon Vorbis|2019-07-06T20:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T21:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nyttend&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nyttend|2019-07-06T21:21:00.000Z|Deacon Vorbis|2019-07-06T20:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Deacon_Vorbis" title="User:Deacon Vorbis"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nyttend|2019-07-06T21:21:00.000Z|Deacon Vorbis|2019-07-06T20:50:00.000Z"></span>User:Deacon Vorbis</a>, see <a href="#Stuck_tooltips">#Stuck tooltips</a> above.  Over at Phabricator, it has an "Unbreak Now!" status, which means "drop everything you're doing and fix this".  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nyttend" title="User talk:Nyttend">talk</a>) 21:21, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-07-06T21:21:00.000Z|Deacon Vorbis|2019-07-06T20:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T21:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nyttend&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nyttend|2019-07-06T21:21:00.000Z|Deacon Vorbis|2019-07-06T20:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id="RfC:_Alteration_of_Account_Creation_Limits.2FAccount_Creator_Rights"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="RfC:_Alteration_of_Account_Creation_Limits/Account_Creator_Rights" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|RfC:_Alteration_of_Account_Creation_Limits\/Account_Creator_Rights|2019-06-14T13:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nosebagbear|2019-06-14T13:11:00.000Z|RfC:_Alteration_of_Account_Creation_Limits\/Account_Creator_Rights&quot;,&quot;h|Survey:_Account_creator_rights|RfC:_Alteration_of_Account_Creation_Limits\/Account_Creator_Rights|2019-06-14T13:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;h|Discussion:_Account_creator_rights|RfC:_Alteration_of_Account_Creation_Limits\/Account_Creator_Rights|2019-06-14T13:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;h|New_bot|RfC:_Alteration_of_Account_Creation_Limits\/Account_Creator_Rights|2019-06-14T14:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;h|Event_Coordinator_Rights|RfC:_Alteration_of_Account_Creation_Limits\/Account_Creator_Rights|2019-06-17T18:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;h|Back_to_6_per_day|RfC:_Alteration_of_Account_Creation_Limits\/Account_Creator_Rights|2019-06-25T13:16:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|RfC:_Alteration_of_Account_Creation_Limits/Account_Creator_Rights|2019-06-14T13:11:00.000Z"></span>RfC: Alteration of Account Creation Limits/Account Creator Rights<span data-mw-comment-end="h|RfC:_Alteration_of_Account_Creation_Limits/Account_Creator_Rights|2019-06-14T13:11:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nosebagbear|2019-06-14T13:11:00.000Z|RfC:_Alteration_of_Account_Creation_Limits/Account_Creator_Rights"></span>Currently, one of the most backlogged processes is <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ACC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ACC">Request an Account (ACC)</a> , which exists mainly (though not entirely) for helping with 3 purposes: Those having trouble completing CAPTCHA; enabling the choosing of a username that is too similar to an existing username under certain circumstances &amp; creating an account for those hindered by a rangeblock.
 </p><p>The current backlog on pending requests is 4 months.
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 <ol><li>Raise the local account creation rate limit from 4 to 10. The new limit only to extended-confirmed users to prevent any abusive behaviour from IPs.</li>
 <li>Automatically grant <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Account_creator" title="Wikipedia:Account creator">account creator</a> permission, on request, to new ACC tool users. This would allow them both to bypass the limit entirely, but would also let them ignore the antispoof and title blacklist when making accounts.</li></ol>
-<p><small>Pinging all participants in the local chat discussion: <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ajraddatz" title="User:Ajraddatz">Ajraddatz</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:FlightTime" title="User:FlightTime">FlightTime</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux">Xaosflux</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TheSandDoctor" title="User:TheSandDoctor">TheSandDoctor</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AfroThundr" class="mw-redirect" title="User:AfroThundr">AfroThundr</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK">QEDK</a>,  and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Oshwah" title="User:Oshwah">Oshwah</a>:</span> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nosebagbear" title="User:Nosebagbear">Nosebagbear</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nosebagbear" title="User talk:Nosebagbear">talk</a>) 13:11, 14 June 2019 (UTC) </small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nosebagbear|2019-06-14T13:11:00.000Z|RfC:_Alteration_of_Account_Creation_Limits\/Account_Creator_Rights&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T13:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nosebagbear&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nosebagbear|2019-06-14T13:11:00.000Z|RfC:_Alteration_of_Account_Creation_Limits/Account_Creator_Rights"></span>
+<p><small>Pinging all participants in the local chat discussion: <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ajraddatz" title="User:Ajraddatz">Ajraddatz</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:FlightTime" title="User:FlightTime">FlightTime</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux">Xaosflux</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TheSandDoctor" title="User:TheSandDoctor">TheSandDoctor</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AfroThundr" class="mw-redirect" title="User:AfroThundr">AfroThundr</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK">QEDK</a>,  and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Oshwah" title="User:Oshwah">Oshwah</a>:</span> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nosebagbear" title="User:Nosebagbear">Nosebagbear</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nosebagbear" title="User talk:Nosebagbear">talk</a>) 13:11, 14 June 2019 (UTC) </small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nosebagbear|2019-06-14T13:11:00.000Z|RfC:_Alteration_of_Account_Creation_Limits\/Account_Creator_Rights&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T13:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nosebagbear&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nosebagbear|2019-06-14T13:11:00.000Z|RfC:_Alteration_of_Account_Creation_Limits/Account_Creator_Rights"></span>
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 <ul><li><b>NOTE:</b> Option 2 is broader than Option 1, however they do not completely overlap. Option 1 would allow <i>any EC-confirmed editor</i> to create up to 10 accounts per IP address, option 2 is specifically targeted at ACC-users. Thus participants can !vote for either/both/none of the options.</li></ul>
 <h3><span class="mw-headline" id="Survey:_Account_creator_rights" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Survey:_Account_creator_rights|RfC:_Alteration_of_Account_Creation_Limits\/Account_Creator_Rights|2019-06-14T13:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:25:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights&quot;,&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:43:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights&quot;,&quot;c|QEDK|2019-06-14T13:59:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights&quot;,&quot;c|AfroThundr3007730|2019-06-14T14:04:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights&quot;,&quot;c|Snaevar|2019-06-14T14:38:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights&quot;,&quot;c|Ajraddatz|2019-06-14T15:16:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights&quot;,&quot;c|JJMC89|2019-06-15T05:50:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights&quot;,&quot;c|MJL|2019-06-18T16:04:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights&quot;,&quot;c|Wugapodes|2019-06-29T19:05:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights&quot;,&quot;c|InvalidOS|2019-07-06T23:13:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:3,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Survey:_Account_creator_rights|RfC:_Alteration_of_Account_Creation_Limits/Account_Creator_Rights|2019-06-14T13:25:00.000Z"></span>Survey: Account creator rights<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Survey:_Account_creator_rights|RfC:_Alteration_of_Account_Creation_Limits/Account_Creator_Rights|2019-06-14T13:25:00.000Z"></span></span></h3>
-<ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:25:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights"></span>Support for option 1 only.</b> Speaking as an ACC administrator, I believe that automatically granting all new ACC tool users the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ACCP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ACCP">account creator</a> user right (option 2) would open the door for new tool users to potentially handle requests incorrectly and without limitations before it's caught and identified - which would <i>not</i> be a good thing at all. We need to have a limit for how many accounts that new tool users can create per day by default. When a tool user shows proficiency with handling requests correctly, they can apply for and (after approval by an ACC admin via a comment made to the request) be granted the account creator flag in order to remove those limits. Option 2 would remove the need for an ACC tool administrator to give their approval before an admin can grant the user rights to the requesting user. This approval is still necessary and absolutely needed. Raising the current limit of 4 creations per day to 10 creations per day would loosen the restrictions so that users can help take care of the current backlog of requests at ACC, while still being on a set limit during the time that they're learning and demonstrating their knowledge and proficiency with ACC tool user interface. This option is the best way to resolve the concerns expressed. :-) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Oshwah" title="User:Oshwah"><b><span style="color:#C00000">~Oshwah~</span></b></a><sup><small><b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Oshwah" title="User talk:Oshwah"><span style="color:blue">(talk)</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Oshwah" title="Special:Contributions/Oshwah"><span style="color:green">(contribs)</span></a></b></small></sup>  13:25, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:25:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T13:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Oshwah&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:25:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights"></span></li>
-<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:43:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights"></span>Support</b> for option 1; encourage ACC admins to quickly work with new ACC volunteers to get them trained and empowered with additional flags as soon as feasible. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 13:43, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:43:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T13:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:43:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights"></span></li>
-<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-06-14T13:59:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights"></span>Support option 1</b> Per above. Also, as all rights on Wikipedia are, it is granted on the basis of need for the right, inherent oppose for point 2. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 13:59, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-06-14T13:59:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T13:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-06-14T13:59:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights"></span></li>
-<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|AfroThundr3007730|2019-06-14T14:04:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights"></span>Support option 1</b> as per my comment in the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:ACC#Creation_limit" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:ACC">previous discussion</a>. I also agree with Oshwah on automatically granting new users the ACC bit. The current method of granting the right after a couple weeks of activity allows the team to gauge the user's performance and whether or not they have learned the policies and procedures properly. Lowering the barrier further could lead to a problematic user potentially causing a lot more damage (no rate-limit, anti-spoof override, username title blacklist override) than they otherwise could if we had to manually grant those rights. On the other hand, when all is in order, granting them the right is usually quick and painless anyway. — AfroThundr <sup>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AfroThundr3007730" title="User:AfroThundr3007730">u</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AfroThundr3007730" title="User talk:AfroThundr3007730">t</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/AfroThundr3007730" title="Special:Contributions/AfroThundr3007730">c</a>)</sup> 14:04, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|AfroThundr3007730|2019-06-14T14:04:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T14:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;AfroThundr3007730&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|AfroThundr3007730|2019-06-14T14:04:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights"></span></li>
-<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Snaevar|2019-06-14T14:38:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights"></span>Support alternate option</b> where an group named Account creation helper is formed, which would contain only the noratelimit right.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Snaevar" title="User:Snaevar">Snaevar</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Snaevar" title="User talk:Snaevar">talk</a>) 14:38, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Snaevar|2019-06-14T14:38:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:45:00.000Z|Snaevar|2019-06-14T14:38:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T14:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Snaevar&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Snaevar|2019-06-14T14:38:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights"></span></li></ul>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:45:00.000Z|Snaevar|2019-06-14T14:38:00.000Z"></span>I appreciate the idea, but I just don't see how this implementation would be useful here, or how it would resolve any issues that the account creator flag wouldn't already resolve. If an ACC admin user can trust an ACC tool user enough to have no account creation limit, that admin user should also trust the tool user enough to be able to correctly and properly handle requests that tripped the antispoof extension and require a flagged user to override (and vice versa). <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Oshwah" title="User:Oshwah"><b><span style="color:#C00000">~Oshwah~</span></b></a><sup><small><b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Oshwah" title="User talk:Oshwah"><span style="color:blue">(talk)</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Oshwah" title="Special:Contributions/Oshwah"><span style="color:green">(contribs)</span></a></b></small></sup>  14:45, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:45:00.000Z|Snaevar|2019-06-14T14:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T14:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Oshwah&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:45:00.000Z|Snaevar|2019-06-14T14:38:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ajraddatz|2019-06-14T15:16:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights"></span>Support 1</b>. After thinking about this a bit more, I'm not sure if tying the rate limit to extendedconfirmed would be possible. If not, I still think we should raise the limit, but maybe to 6 like it was before instead. The limit was lowered mainly for projects without 300 active local sysops who couldn't instantly respond to mass account creation. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ajraddatz" title="User:Ajraddatz">Ajraddatz</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ajraddatz" title="User talk:Ajraddatz">talk</a>) 15:16, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ajraddatz|2019-06-14T15:16:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|QEDK|2019-06-14T15:23:00.000Z|Ajraddatz|2019-06-14T15:16:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T15:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ajraddatz&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ajraddatz|2019-06-14T15:16:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-06-14T15:23:00.000Z|Ajraddatz|2019-06-14T15:16:00.000Z"></span>Rights like PMR have increased limits for certain flags (in that case, page moves), this would just mean adding a flag like that to EC right holders. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 15:23, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-06-14T15:23:00.000Z|Ajraddatz|2019-06-14T15:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ajraddatz|2019-06-14T22:58:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T15:23:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T15:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-06-14T15:23:00.000Z|Ajraddatz|2019-06-14T15:16:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ajraddatz|2019-06-14T22:58:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T15:23:00.000Z"></span>Yes, most ratelimits are determined on a per-account basis (or per IP for anonymous users). But I seem to remember account creations being different, and being specifically tied to the IP. I assume/hope that a defined higher ratelimit for extendedconfirmed would override that. And no need to tie it to a specific permission; it can be done for the group itself. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ajraddatz" title="User:Ajraddatz">Ajraddatz</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ajraddatz" title="User talk:Ajraddatz">talk</a>) 22:58, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ajraddatz|2019-06-14T22:58:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T15:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|QEDK|2019-06-16T07:50:00.000Z|Ajraddatz|2019-06-14T22:58:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T22:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ajraddatz&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ajraddatz|2019-06-14T22:58:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T15:23:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-06-16T07:50:00.000Z|Ajraddatz|2019-06-14T22:58:00.000Z"></span>Yep, but that's a non-issue as far as devs are concerned. Delving into the issue of newer technical changes, from my experience talking to people on SRE/Deployment (and Anomie, TheDJ), technically unfeasible things are pretty rare and I have not seen requests getting turned down (rarely, if ever) with "MediaWiki does not support this", if it's a feature change, or some irreproducible bug, it's a different thing but for example, during the RfC for Template editor rights, a lot of people were worried about the tecnical changes but eventually it was done, with no big deal at all. That's how it is for most new things (and TE rights had a new protection level as well), so I would say a change would be technically feasible until a dev says exactly otherwise. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 07:50, 16 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-06-16T07:50:00.000Z|Ajraddatz|2019-06-14T22:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ajraddatz|2019-06-18T01:03:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-16T07:50:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-16T07:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-06-16T07:50:00.000Z|Ajraddatz|2019-06-14T22:58:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ajraddatz|2019-06-18T01:03:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-16T07:50:00.000Z"></span>With dev time almost anything is possible; my concern would be if the current software doesn't support the change, then we should be looking at easier options like raising the max number to 6 / IP as it used to be. Adding a new protection level is easy to do through the software. Fundamentally changing the account creation throttle might be more difficult. But agreed that we should ask rather than muse about things we know little about :-) -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ajraddatz" title="User:Ajraddatz">Ajraddatz</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ajraddatz" title="User talk:Ajraddatz">talk</a>) 01:03, 18 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ajraddatz|2019-06-18T01:03:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-16T07:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-18T01:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ajraddatz&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ajraddatz|2019-06-18T01:03:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-16T07:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li>
-<li><small><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JJMC89|2019-06-15T05:50:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights"></span>(ACC admin comment)</small> I'm pretty sure option 1 isn't possible without development, i.e. it is not a simple configuration change. AFAICT, IP account creation limits can only be set as a count per interval with the <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r886049734">.mw-parser-output .monospaced{font-family:monospace,monospace}</style><span class="monospaced">noratelimit</span> right being the only way for a user to bypass that limit. (<a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgAccountCreationThrottle" class="extiw" title="mw:Manual:$wgAccountCreationThrottle">mw:Manual:$wgAccountCreationThrottle</a>) <b>Oppose option 2</b> for the reasons outlined by Oshwah. <b>Support</b> returning the daily IP limit to 6 unless the Security Team<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bawolff" title="User:Bawolff">​</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BWolff_(WMF)" title="User:BWolff (WMF)">​</a> provides a good reason that it needs to remain at 4. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JJMC89" title="User:JJMC89">JJMC89</a> <small>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JJMC89" title="User talk:JJMC89">T</a><b>·</b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/JJMC89" title="Special:Contributions/JJMC89">C</a>)</small> 05:50, 15 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JJMC89|2019-06-15T05:50:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|SBassett (WMF)|2019-06-21T21:32:00.000Z|JJMC89|2019-06-15T05:50:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-15T05:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JJMC89&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JJMC89|2019-06-15T05:50:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights"></span>
-<dl><dd><a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Security_Team" class="extiw" title="mw:Wikimedia Security Team"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SBassett (WMF)|2019-06-21T21:32:00.000Z|JJMC89|2019-06-15T05:50:00.000Z"></span>The Security Team</a> doesn't have a problem with bumping the IP limit from 4 to 6 or even 10, as originally proposed. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SBassett_(WMF)" title="User:SBassett (WMF)">SBassett (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SBassett_(WMF)&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:SBassett (WMF) (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 21:32, 21 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SBassett (WMF)|2019-06-21T21:32:00.000Z|JJMC89|2019-06-15T05:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-21T21:52:00.000Z|SBassett (WMF)|2019-06-21T21:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-21T21:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SBassett (WMF)&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SBassett (WMF)|2019-06-21T21:32:00.000Z|JJMC89|2019-06-15T05:50:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-21T21:52:00.000Z|SBassett (WMF)|2019-06-21T21:32:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SBassett_(WMF)" title="User:SBassett (WMF)">SBassett (WMF)</a>:</span> thanks for the note, is this really something we need to worry about at a per-project level then? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 21:52, 21 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-21T21:52:00.000Z|SBassett (WMF)|2019-06-21T21:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|SBassett (WMF)|2019-06-22T12:39:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-21T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|SBassett (WMF)|2019-06-24T21:47:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-21T21:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-21T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-21T21:52:00.000Z|SBassett (WMF)|2019-06-21T21:32:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SBassett (WMF)|2019-06-22T12:39:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-21T21:52:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux">Xaosflux</a>:</span> - see my response to JJMC89 starting here: <a class="external free" href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212667#5274787">https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212667#5274787</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SBassett_(WMF)" title="User:SBassett (WMF)">SBassett (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SBassett_(WMF)&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:SBassett (WMF) (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 12:39, 22 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SBassett (WMF)|2019-06-22T12:39:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-21T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-22T12:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SBassett (WMF)&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SBassett (WMF)|2019-06-22T12:39:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-21T21:52:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SBassett (WMF)|2019-06-24T21:47:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-21T21:52:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JJMC89" title="User:JJMC89">JJMC89</a>:</span>, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux">Xaosflux</a>:</span> - just following up here, the account creation throttle revert was <a href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/sal/log/AWuLZ5avOwpQ-3Pkq3pQ" class="extiw" title="toolforge:sal/log/AWuLZ5avOwpQ-3Pkq3pQ">deployed</a> today. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SBassett_(WMF)" title="User:SBassett (WMF)">SBassett (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SBassett_(WMF)&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:SBassett (WMF) (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 21:47, 24 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SBassett (WMF)|2019-06-24T21:47:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-21T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-24T21:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SBassett (WMF)&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SBassett (WMF)|2019-06-24T21:47:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-21T21:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li>
-<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MJL|2019-06-18T16:04:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights"></span>Comment.</b> My preference would be to at least be <i>granted</i> access to the tool. I've waited for a week or so now. :/ –<span style="font-family:CG Times"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MJL" title="User:MJL"><span style="color:black">MJL</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MJL" title="User talk:MJL">‐<b>Talk</b>‐</a><sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Connecticut" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Connecticut">☖</a></sup></span> 16:04, 18 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MJL|2019-06-18T16:04:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-18T16:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MJL&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MJL|2019-06-18T16:04:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights"></span></li>
-<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Wugapodes|2019-06-29T19:05:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights"></span>Oppose</b> I think 6 is the highest we should go with general limits on account creation per IP. Given that changing IP is rather trivial, the higher we go the greater the risk of abuse. If we raised the limit from 4 to 10, and a bad actor switches from their laptop to their cellular data network when they hit a limit, that is an additional 12 accounts they would be able to create. I think 4 was fine, 6 is okay, but anything higher I am not in favor of. I am not in support of option 2 for the reasons above. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wugapodes" title="User:Wugapodes">Wugapodes</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Wugapodes" title="User talk:Wugapodes">[t<sup>h</sup>ɑk]</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Wugapodes" title="Special:Contributions/Wugapodes">[ˈkan.ˌʧɹɪbz]</a> 19:05, 29 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Wugapodes|2019-06-29T19:05:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-29T19:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Wugapodes&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Wugapodes|2019-06-29T19:05:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights"></span></li>
-<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|InvalidOS|2019-07-06T23:13:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights"></span>Support option 1</b> I'm not sure what option 2 is, so I can't support it. Option 1 seems fine, though. I think we should prioritize clearing up the backlog, though. <span style="font-family:monospace;font-size:14px;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:InvalidOS" title="User:InvalidOS"><span style="color:#06A;">Invalid</span></a><sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:InvalidOS/c" title="User:InvalidOS/c"><span style="color:#A06">OS</span></a></sup> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:InvalidOS/t" class="mw-redirect" title="User:InvalidOS/t">talk</a>)</span> 23:13, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|InvalidOS|2019-07-06T23:13:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T23:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;InvalidOS&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|InvalidOS|2019-07-06T23:13:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights"></span></li></ul>
+<ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:25:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights"></span>Support for option 1 only.</b> Speaking as an ACC administrator, I believe that automatically granting all new ACC tool users the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ACCP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ACCP">account creator</a> user right (option 2) would open the door for new tool users to potentially handle requests incorrectly and without limitations before it's caught and identified - which would <i>not</i> be a good thing at all. We need to have a limit for how many accounts that new tool users can create per day by default. When a tool user shows proficiency with handling requests correctly, they can apply for and (after approval by an ACC admin via a comment made to the request) be granted the account creator flag in order to remove those limits. Option 2 would remove the need for an ACC tool administrator to give their approval before an admin can grant the user rights to the requesting user. This approval is still necessary and absolutely needed. Raising the current limit of 4 creations per day to 10 creations per day would loosen the restrictions so that users can help take care of the current backlog of requests at ACC, while still being on a set limit during the time that they're learning and demonstrating their knowledge and proficiency with ACC tool user interface. This option is the best way to resolve the concerns expressed. :-) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Oshwah" title="User:Oshwah"><b><span style="color:#C00000">~Oshwah~</span></b></a><sup><small><b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Oshwah" title="User talk:Oshwah"><span style="color:blue">(talk)</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Oshwah" title="Special:Contributions/Oshwah"><span style="color:green">(contribs)</span></a></b></small></sup>  13:25, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:25:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T13:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Oshwah&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:25:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights"></span></li>
+<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:43:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights"></span>Support</b> for option 1; encourage ACC admins to quickly work with new ACC volunteers to get them trained and empowered with additional flags as soon as feasible. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 13:43, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:43:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T13:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:43:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights"></span></li>
+<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-06-14T13:59:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights"></span>Support option 1</b> Per above. Also, as all rights on Wikipedia are, it is granted on the basis of need for the right, inherent oppose for point 2. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 13:59, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-06-14T13:59:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T13:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-06-14T13:59:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights"></span></li>
+<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|AfroThundr3007730|2019-06-14T14:04:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights"></span>Support option 1</b> as per my comment in the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:ACC#Creation_limit" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:ACC">previous discussion</a>. I also agree with Oshwah on automatically granting new users the ACC bit. The current method of granting the right after a couple weeks of activity allows the team to gauge the user's performance and whether or not they have learned the policies and procedures properly. Lowering the barrier further could lead to a problematic user potentially causing a lot more damage (no rate-limit, anti-spoof override, username title blacklist override) than they otherwise could if we had to manually grant those rights. On the other hand, when all is in order, granting them the right is usually quick and painless anyway. — AfroThundr <sup>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AfroThundr3007730" title="User:AfroThundr3007730">u</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AfroThundr3007730" title="User talk:AfroThundr3007730">t</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/AfroThundr3007730" title="Special:Contributions/AfroThundr3007730">c</a>)</sup> 14:04, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|AfroThundr3007730|2019-06-14T14:04:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T14:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;AfroThundr3007730&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|AfroThundr3007730|2019-06-14T14:04:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights"></span></li>
+<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Snaevar|2019-06-14T14:38:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights"></span>Support alternate option</b> where an group named Account creation helper is formed, which would contain only the noratelimit right.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Snaevar" title="User:Snaevar">Snaevar</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Snaevar" title="User talk:Snaevar">talk</a>) 14:38, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Snaevar|2019-06-14T14:38:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:45:00.000Z|Snaevar|2019-06-14T14:38:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T14:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Snaevar&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Snaevar|2019-06-14T14:38:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights"></span></li></ul>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:45:00.000Z|Snaevar|2019-06-14T14:38:00.000Z"></span>I appreciate the idea, but I just don't see how this implementation would be useful here, or how it would resolve any issues that the account creator flag wouldn't already resolve. If an ACC admin user can trust an ACC tool user enough to have no account creation limit, that admin user should also trust the tool user enough to be able to correctly and properly handle requests that tripped the antispoof extension and require a flagged user to override (and vice versa). <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Oshwah" title="User:Oshwah"><b><span style="color:#C00000">~Oshwah~</span></b></a><sup><small><b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Oshwah" title="User talk:Oshwah"><span style="color:blue">(talk)</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Oshwah" title="Special:Contributions/Oshwah"><span style="color:green">(contribs)</span></a></b></small></sup>  14:45, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:45:00.000Z|Snaevar|2019-06-14T14:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T14:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Oshwah&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:45:00.000Z|Snaevar|2019-06-14T14:38:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ajraddatz|2019-06-14T15:16:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights"></span>Support 1</b>. After thinking about this a bit more, I'm not sure if tying the rate limit to extendedconfirmed would be possible. If not, I still think we should raise the limit, but maybe to 6 like it was before instead. The limit was lowered mainly for projects without 300 active local sysops who couldn't instantly respond to mass account creation. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ajraddatz" title="User:Ajraddatz">Ajraddatz</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ajraddatz" title="User talk:Ajraddatz">talk</a>) 15:16, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ajraddatz|2019-06-14T15:16:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|QEDK|2019-06-14T15:23:00.000Z|Ajraddatz|2019-06-14T15:16:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T15:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ajraddatz&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ajraddatz|2019-06-14T15:16:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-06-14T15:23:00.000Z|Ajraddatz|2019-06-14T15:16:00.000Z"></span>Rights like PMR have increased limits for certain flags (in that case, page moves), this would just mean adding a flag like that to EC right holders. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 15:23, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-06-14T15:23:00.000Z|Ajraddatz|2019-06-14T15:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ajraddatz|2019-06-14T22:58:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T15:23:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T15:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-06-14T15:23:00.000Z|Ajraddatz|2019-06-14T15:16:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ajraddatz|2019-06-14T22:58:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T15:23:00.000Z"></span>Yes, most ratelimits are determined on a per-account basis (or per IP for anonymous users). But I seem to remember account creations being different, and being specifically tied to the IP. I assume/hope that a defined higher ratelimit for extendedconfirmed would override that. And no need to tie it to a specific permission; it can be done for the group itself. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ajraddatz" title="User:Ajraddatz">Ajraddatz</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ajraddatz" title="User talk:Ajraddatz">talk</a>) 22:58, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ajraddatz|2019-06-14T22:58:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T15:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|QEDK|2019-06-16T07:50:00.000Z|Ajraddatz|2019-06-14T22:58:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T22:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ajraddatz&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ajraddatz|2019-06-14T22:58:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T15:23:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-06-16T07:50:00.000Z|Ajraddatz|2019-06-14T22:58:00.000Z"></span>Yep, but that's a non-issue as far as devs are concerned. Delving into the issue of newer technical changes, from my experience talking to people on SRE/Deployment (and Anomie, TheDJ), technically unfeasible things are pretty rare and I have not seen requests getting turned down (rarely, if ever) with "MediaWiki does not support this", if it's a feature change, or some irreproducible bug, it's a different thing but for example, during the RfC for Template editor rights, a lot of people were worried about the tecnical changes but eventually it was done, with no big deal at all. That's how it is for most new things (and TE rights had a new protection level as well), so I would say a change would be technically feasible until a dev says exactly otherwise. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 07:50, 16 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-06-16T07:50:00.000Z|Ajraddatz|2019-06-14T22:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ajraddatz|2019-06-18T01:03:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-16T07:50:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-16T07:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-06-16T07:50:00.000Z|Ajraddatz|2019-06-14T22:58:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ajraddatz|2019-06-18T01:03:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-16T07:50:00.000Z"></span>With dev time almost anything is possible; my concern would be if the current software doesn't support the change, then we should be looking at easier options like raising the max number to 6 / IP as it used to be. Adding a new protection level is easy to do through the software. Fundamentally changing the account creation throttle might be more difficult. But agreed that we should ask rather than muse about things we know little about :-) -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ajraddatz" title="User:Ajraddatz">Ajraddatz</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ajraddatz" title="User talk:Ajraddatz">talk</a>) 01:03, 18 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ajraddatz|2019-06-18T01:03:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-16T07:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-18T01:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ajraddatz&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ajraddatz|2019-06-18T01:03:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-16T07:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li>
+<li><small><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JJMC89|2019-06-15T05:50:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights"></span>(ACC admin comment)</small> I'm pretty sure option 1 isn't possible without development, i.e. it is not a simple configuration change. AFAICT, IP account creation limits can only be set as a count per interval with the <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r886049734">.mw-parser-output .monospaced{font-family:monospace,monospace}</style><span class="monospaced">noratelimit</span> right being the only way for a user to bypass that limit. (<a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgAccountCreationThrottle" class="extiw" title="mw:Manual:$wgAccountCreationThrottle">mw:Manual:$wgAccountCreationThrottle</a>) <b>Oppose option 2</b> for the reasons outlined by Oshwah. <b>Support</b> returning the daily IP limit to 6 unless the Security Team<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bawolff" title="User:Bawolff">​</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BWolff_(WMF)" title="User:BWolff (WMF)">​</a> provides a good reason that it needs to remain at 4. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JJMC89" title="User:JJMC89">JJMC89</a> <small>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JJMC89" title="User talk:JJMC89">T</a><b>·</b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/JJMC89" title="Special:Contributions/JJMC89">C</a>)</small> 05:50, 15 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JJMC89|2019-06-15T05:50:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|SBassett (WMF)|2019-06-21T21:32:00.000Z|JJMC89|2019-06-15T05:50:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-15T05:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JJMC89&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JJMC89|2019-06-15T05:50:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights"></span>
+<dl><dd><a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Security_Team" class="extiw" title="mw:Wikimedia Security Team"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SBassett (WMF)|2019-06-21T21:32:00.000Z|JJMC89|2019-06-15T05:50:00.000Z"></span>The Security Team</a> doesn't have a problem with bumping the IP limit from 4 to 6 or even 10, as originally proposed. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SBassett_(WMF)" title="User:SBassett (WMF)">SBassett (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SBassett_(WMF)&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:SBassett (WMF) (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 21:32, 21 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SBassett (WMF)|2019-06-21T21:32:00.000Z|JJMC89|2019-06-15T05:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-21T21:52:00.000Z|SBassett (WMF)|2019-06-21T21:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-21T21:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SBassett (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SBassett (WMF)|2019-06-21T21:32:00.000Z|JJMC89|2019-06-15T05:50:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-21T21:52:00.000Z|SBassett (WMF)|2019-06-21T21:32:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SBassett_(WMF)" title="User:SBassett (WMF)">SBassett (WMF)</a>:</span> thanks for the note, is this really something we need to worry about at a per-project level then? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 21:52, 21 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-21T21:52:00.000Z|SBassett (WMF)|2019-06-21T21:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|SBassett (WMF)|2019-06-22T12:39:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-21T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|SBassett (WMF)|2019-06-24T21:47:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-21T21:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-21T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-21T21:52:00.000Z|SBassett (WMF)|2019-06-21T21:32:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SBassett (WMF)|2019-06-22T12:39:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-21T21:52:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux">Xaosflux</a>:</span> - see my response to JJMC89 starting here: <a class="external free" href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212667#5274787">https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212667#5274787</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SBassett_(WMF)" title="User:SBassett (WMF)">SBassett (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SBassett_(WMF)&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:SBassett (WMF) (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 12:39, 22 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SBassett (WMF)|2019-06-22T12:39:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-21T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-22T12:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SBassett (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SBassett (WMF)|2019-06-22T12:39:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-21T21:52:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SBassett (WMF)|2019-06-24T21:47:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-21T21:52:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JJMC89" title="User:JJMC89">JJMC89</a>:</span>, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux">Xaosflux</a>:</span> - just following up here, the account creation throttle revert was <a href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/sal/log/AWuLZ5avOwpQ-3Pkq3pQ" class="extiw" title="toolforge:sal/log/AWuLZ5avOwpQ-3Pkq3pQ">deployed</a> today. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SBassett_(WMF)" title="User:SBassett (WMF)">SBassett (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SBassett_(WMF)&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:SBassett (WMF) (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 21:47, 24 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SBassett (WMF)|2019-06-24T21:47:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-21T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-24T21:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SBassett (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SBassett (WMF)|2019-06-24T21:47:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-21T21:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li>
+<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MJL|2019-06-18T16:04:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights"></span>Comment.</b> My preference would be to at least be <i>granted</i> access to the tool. I've waited for a week or so now. :/ –<span style="font-family:CG Times"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MJL" title="User:MJL"><span style="color:black">MJL</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MJL" title="User talk:MJL">‐<b>Talk</b>‐</a><sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Connecticut" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Connecticut">☖</a></sup></span> 16:04, 18 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MJL|2019-06-18T16:04:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-18T16:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MJL&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MJL|2019-06-18T16:04:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights"></span></li>
+<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Wugapodes|2019-06-29T19:05:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights"></span>Oppose</b> I think 6 is the highest we should go with general limits on account creation per IP. Given that changing IP is rather trivial, the higher we go the greater the risk of abuse. If we raised the limit from 4 to 10, and a bad actor switches from their laptop to their cellular data network when they hit a limit, that is an additional 12 accounts they would be able to create. I think 4 was fine, 6 is okay, but anything higher I am not in favor of. I am not in support of option 2 for the reasons above. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wugapodes" title="User:Wugapodes">Wugapodes</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Wugapodes" title="User talk:Wugapodes">[t<sup>h</sup>ɑk]</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Wugapodes" title="Special:Contributions/Wugapodes">[ˈkan.ˌʧɹɪbz]</a> 19:05, 29 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Wugapodes|2019-06-29T19:05:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-29T19:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Wugapodes&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Wugapodes|2019-06-29T19:05:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights"></span></li>
+<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|InvalidOS|2019-07-06T23:13:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights"></span>Support option 1</b> I'm not sure what option 2 is, so I can't support it. Option 1 seems fine, though. I think we should prioritize clearing up the backlog, though. <span style="font-family:monospace;font-size:14px;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:InvalidOS" title="User:InvalidOS"><span style="color:#06A;">Invalid</span></a><sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:InvalidOS/c" title="User:InvalidOS/c"><span style="color:#A06">OS</span></a></sup> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:InvalidOS/t" class="mw-redirect" title="User:InvalidOS/t">talk</a>)</span> 23:13, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|InvalidOS|2019-07-06T23:13:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T23:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;InvalidOS&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|InvalidOS|2019-07-06T23:13:00.000Z|Survey:_Account_creator_rights"></span></li></ul>
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-<ul><li><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:24:00.000Z|Discussion:_Account_creator_rights"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nosebagbear" title="User:Nosebagbear">Nosebagbear</a>:</span> regarding your proposed options, and since this is VPT, can you explain the specific technical changes you are proposing - or is this more of a "let some developer figure it out" type of request? Is the "automatic" granting you are asking some sort of technical change you are proposing, or is it a procedural/policy change? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 13:24, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:24:00.000Z|Discussion:_Account_creator_rights&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:27:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:24:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T13:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:24:00.000Z|Discussion:_Account_creator_rights"></span>
-<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:27:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:24:00.000Z"></span>Xaosflux</a> - If option 1 were to reach consensus, it would be corrected by filing a phab ticket to have this done. See <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212667" class="extiw" title="phab:T212667">phab:T212667</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Oshwah" title="User:Oshwah"><b><span style="color:#C00000">~Oshwah~</span></b></a><sup><small><b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Oshwah" title="User talk:Oshwah"><span style="color:blue">(talk)</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Oshwah" title="Special:Contributions/Oshwah"><span style="color:green">(contribs)</span></a></b></small></sup>  13:27, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:27:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:29:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Nosebagbear|2019-06-14T13:29:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T13:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Oshwah&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:27:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:24:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:29:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:27:00.000Z"></span>Thanks. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 13:29, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:29:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T13:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:29:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:27:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nosebagbear|2019-06-14T13:29:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:27:00.000Z"></span>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Edit_conflict" title="Help:Edit conflict">edit conflict</a>)</small> <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux">Xaosflux</a>:</span> - changing the rate limit is obviously possible. Whether it can be changed "in bands" to different protection levels is, I'm afraid, I query for those more technically savvy than me. If they say that's impossible (or akin), then this would need to be rethought. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nosebagbear" title="User:Nosebagbear">Nosebagbear</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nosebagbear" title="User talk:Nosebagbear">talk</a>) 13:29, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nosebagbear|2019-06-14T13:29:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T13:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nosebagbear&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nosebagbear|2019-06-14T13:29:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:25:00.000Z|Discussion:_Account_creator_rights"></span>For the problem that is trying to be solved - is overriding anti-spoof the normal resolution, or is getting them to pick a new username? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 13:25, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:25:00.000Z|Discussion:_Account_creator_rights&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:30:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:25:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T13:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:25:00.000Z|Discussion:_Account_creator_rights"></span>
-<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:30:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:25:00.000Z"></span>Xaosflux</a> - For instances where similar usernames exist and are caught by anti-spoof, it depends. See <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Request_an_account/Guide#Too_similar_(&quot;Flagged_user_needed&quot;)" title="Wikipedia:Request an account/Guide">this section of the ACC guide</a> for the policy on when ACC tool users with the account creator flag can override the antispoof flag and proceed with creation. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Oshwah" title="User:Oshwah"><b><span style="color:#C00000">~Oshwah~</span></b></a><sup><small><b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Oshwah" title="User talk:Oshwah"><span style="color:blue">(talk)</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Oshwah" title="Special:Contributions/Oshwah"><span style="color:green">(contribs)</span></a></b></small></sup>  13:30, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:30:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:33:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:30:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T13:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Oshwah&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:30:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:25:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:33:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:30:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Oshwah" title="User:Oshwah">Oshwah</a>:</span> thanks, option 1 above won't fix the antispoof ones, is that a significant part of the backlog? Just asking so we don't spend time getting something done that won't help. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 13:33, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:33:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:37:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:33:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T13:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:33:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:30:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:37:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:33:00.000Z"></span>Xaosflux</a> - No. Requests that have tripped the anti-spoof extension make approximately 3.5% of all total requests at this time. Of those, users without the account creator flag can still see if the similar accounts are active, and decline the request if any of them are. The only time that a request <i>requires</i> a user with the account creator flag is when a request trips the antispoof extension and the similar accounts are all inactive. This means that the antispoof needs to be overridden, the request approved, and the account created. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Oshwah" title="User:Oshwah"><b><span style="color:#C00000">~Oshwah~</span></b></a><sup><small><b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Oshwah" title="User talk:Oshwah"><span style="color:blue">(talk)</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Oshwah" title="Special:Contributions/Oshwah"><span style="color:green">(contribs)</span></a></b></small></sup>  13:37, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:37:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T13:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Oshwah&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:37:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|1997kB|2019-06-14T16:36:00.000Z|Discussion:_Account_creator_rights"></span>Why not grant <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Event_coordinator" title="Wikipedia:Event coordinator">Wikipedia:Event coordinator</a> to new members of ACC? EVC will give them ability to bypass 4 account limit and it also doesn't allow overriding antispoof/title ban restrictions. ‐‐<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:1997kB" title="User:1997kB">1997kB</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:1997kB" title="User talk:1997kB">talk</a>) 16:36, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|1997kB|2019-06-14T16:36:00.000Z|Discussion:_Account_creator_rights&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T16:42:00.000Z|1997kB|2019-06-14T16:36:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T16:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;1997kB&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|1997kB|2019-06-14T16:36:00.000Z|Discussion:_Account_creator_rights"></span>
-<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:1997kB" title="User:1997kB"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T16:42:00.000Z|1997kB|2019-06-14T16:36:00.000Z"></span>1997kB</a> - Not a bad thought, but event coordinators can set new accounts as 'confirmed' using <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:UserRights" title="Special:UserRights">Special:UserRights</a>, which is an ability that they don't need. Essentially, we'd be trading apples and oranges here if the concern is over access to some user rights they shouldn't have. As I said above, I believe that if an ACC admin can trust an ACC user to create accounts with no limit, they should also trust them to properly handle requests that tripped the antispoof extension and require a user with the account creator permissions to override and create (and vice versa). :-) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Oshwah" title="User:Oshwah"><b><span style="color:#C00000">~Oshwah~</span></b></a><sup><small><b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Oshwah" title="User talk:Oshwah"><span style="color:blue">(talk)</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Oshwah" title="Special:Contributions/Oshwah"><span style="color:green">(contribs)</span></a></b></small></sup>  16:42, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T16:42:00.000Z|1997kB|2019-06-14T16:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nosebagbear|2019-06-14T22:36:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T16:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T16:59:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T16:42:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T16:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Oshwah&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T16:42:00.000Z|1997kB|2019-06-14T16:36:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nosebagbear|2019-06-14T22:36:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T16:42:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Oshwah" title="User:Oshwah">Oshwah</a>:</span> - I realise I agree with you, but to run with the Event-Coordinator compromise theory a bit further, it would be clearer cut - the damage possible is pretty tiny. Even if they made every account they created confirmed, it wouldn't cause a great uptick in carnage.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nosebagbear" title="User:Nosebagbear">Nosebagbear</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nosebagbear" title="User talk:Nosebagbear">talk</a>) 22:36, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nosebagbear|2019-06-14T22:36:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T16:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-15T02:31:00.000Z|Nosebagbear|2019-06-14T22:36:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T22:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nosebagbear&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nosebagbear|2019-06-14T22:36:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T16:42:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Oshwah|2019-06-15T02:31:00.000Z|Nosebagbear|2019-06-14T22:36:00.000Z"></span>Fair point. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Oshwah" title="User:Oshwah"><b><span style="color:#C00000">~Oshwah~</span></b></a><sup><small><b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Oshwah" title="User talk:Oshwah"><span style="color:blue">(talk)</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Oshwah" title="Special:Contributions/Oshwah"><span style="color:green">(contribs)</span></a></b></small></sup>  02:31, 15 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-15T02:31:00.000Z|Nosebagbear|2019-06-14T22:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-15T02:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Oshwah&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Oshwah|2019-06-15T02:31:00.000Z|Nosebagbear|2019-06-14T22:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T16:59:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T16:42:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Oshwah" title="User:Oshwah">Oshwah</a>:</span> what is the expected amount of accounts to be created by "new" ACC volunteers per period? (i.e. would 6 or 8 be enough?) since the "rights they don't need" here to ECC users is expected to be way more than is needed by the relatively minuscule ACC team. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 16:59, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T16:59:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T16:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T17:41:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T16:59:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T16:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T16:59:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T16:42:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T17:41:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T16:59:00.000Z"></span>Xaosflux</a> - Honestly, any increase from 4 would be beneficial. Even if the increase is just by a few... :-) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Oshwah" title="User:Oshwah"><b><span style="color:#C00000">~Oshwah~</span></b></a><sup><small><b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Oshwah" title="User talk:Oshwah"><span style="color:blue">(talk)</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Oshwah" title="Special:Contributions/Oshwah"><span style="color:green">(contribs)</span></a></b></small></sup>  17:41, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T17:41:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T16:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T17:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Oshwah&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T17:41:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T16:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li></ul>
+<ul><li><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:24:00.000Z|Discussion:_Account_creator_rights"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nosebagbear" title="User:Nosebagbear">Nosebagbear</a>:</span> regarding your proposed options, and since this is VPT, can you explain the specific technical changes you are proposing - or is this more of a "let some developer figure it out" type of request? Is the "automatic" granting you are asking some sort of technical change you are proposing, or is it a procedural/policy change? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 13:24, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:24:00.000Z|Discussion:_Account_creator_rights&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:27:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:24:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T13:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:24:00.000Z|Discussion:_Account_creator_rights"></span>
+<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:27:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:24:00.000Z"></span>Xaosflux</a> - If option 1 were to reach consensus, it would be corrected by filing a phab ticket to have this done. See <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212667" class="extiw" title="phab:T212667">phab:T212667</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Oshwah" title="User:Oshwah"><b><span style="color:#C00000">~Oshwah~</span></b></a><sup><small><b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Oshwah" title="User talk:Oshwah"><span style="color:blue">(talk)</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Oshwah" title="Special:Contributions/Oshwah"><span style="color:green">(contribs)</span></a></b></small></sup>  13:27, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:27:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:29:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Nosebagbear|2019-06-14T13:29:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T13:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Oshwah&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:27:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:24:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:29:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:27:00.000Z"></span>Thanks. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 13:29, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:29:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T13:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:29:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:27:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nosebagbear|2019-06-14T13:29:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:27:00.000Z"></span>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Edit_conflict" title="Help:Edit conflict">edit conflict</a>)</small> <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux">Xaosflux</a>:</span> - changing the rate limit is obviously possible. Whether it can be changed "in bands" to different protection levels is, I'm afraid, I query for those more technically savvy than me. If they say that's impossible (or akin), then this would need to be rethought. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nosebagbear" title="User:Nosebagbear">Nosebagbear</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nosebagbear" title="User talk:Nosebagbear">talk</a>) 13:29, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nosebagbear|2019-06-14T13:29:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T13:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nosebagbear&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nosebagbear|2019-06-14T13:29:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:25:00.000Z|Discussion:_Account_creator_rights"></span>For the problem that is trying to be solved - is overriding anti-spoof the normal resolution, or is getting them to pick a new username? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 13:25, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:25:00.000Z|Discussion:_Account_creator_rights&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:30:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:25:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T13:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:25:00.000Z|Discussion:_Account_creator_rights"></span>
+<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:30:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:25:00.000Z"></span>Xaosflux</a> - For instances where similar usernames exist and are caught by anti-spoof, it depends. See <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Request_an_account/Guide#Too_similar_(&quot;Flagged_user_needed&quot;)" title="Wikipedia:Request an account/Guide">this section of the ACC guide</a> for the policy on when ACC tool users with the account creator flag can override the antispoof flag and proceed with creation. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Oshwah" title="User:Oshwah"><b><span style="color:#C00000">~Oshwah~</span></b></a><sup><small><b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Oshwah" title="User talk:Oshwah"><span style="color:blue">(talk)</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Oshwah" title="Special:Contributions/Oshwah"><span style="color:green">(contribs)</span></a></b></small></sup>  13:30, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:30:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:33:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:30:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T13:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Oshwah&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:30:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:25:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:33:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:30:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Oshwah" title="User:Oshwah">Oshwah</a>:</span> thanks, option 1 above won't fix the antispoof ones, is that a significant part of the backlog? Just asking so we don't spend time getting something done that won't help. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 13:33, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:33:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:37:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:33:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T13:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:33:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:30:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:37:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:33:00.000Z"></span>Xaosflux</a> - No. Requests that have tripped the anti-spoof extension make approximately 3.5% of all total requests at this time. Of those, users without the account creator flag can still see if the similar accounts are active, and decline the request if any of them are. The only time that a request <i>requires</i> a user with the account creator flag is when a request trips the antispoof extension and the similar accounts are all inactive. This means that the antispoof needs to be overridden, the request approved, and the account created. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Oshwah" title="User:Oshwah"><b><span style="color:#C00000">~Oshwah~</span></b></a><sup><small><b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Oshwah" title="User talk:Oshwah"><span style="color:blue">(talk)</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Oshwah" title="Special:Contributions/Oshwah"><span style="color:green">(contribs)</span></a></b></small></sup>  13:37, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:37:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T13:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Oshwah&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T13:37:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T13:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|1997kB|2019-06-14T16:36:00.000Z|Discussion:_Account_creator_rights"></span>Why not grant <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Event_coordinator" title="Wikipedia:Event coordinator">Wikipedia:Event coordinator</a> to new members of ACC? EVC will give them ability to bypass 4 account limit and it also doesn't allow overriding antispoof/title ban restrictions. ‐‐<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:1997kB" title="User:1997kB">1997kB</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:1997kB" title="User talk:1997kB">talk</a>) 16:36, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|1997kB|2019-06-14T16:36:00.000Z|Discussion:_Account_creator_rights&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T16:42:00.000Z|1997kB|2019-06-14T16:36:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T16:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;1997kB&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|1997kB|2019-06-14T16:36:00.000Z|Discussion:_Account_creator_rights"></span>
+<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:1997kB" title="User:1997kB"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T16:42:00.000Z|1997kB|2019-06-14T16:36:00.000Z"></span>1997kB</a> - Not a bad thought, but event coordinators can set new accounts as 'confirmed' using <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:UserRights" title="Special:UserRights">Special:UserRights</a>, which is an ability that they don't need. Essentially, we'd be trading apples and oranges here if the concern is over access to some user rights they shouldn't have. As I said above, I believe that if an ACC admin can trust an ACC user to create accounts with no limit, they should also trust them to properly handle requests that tripped the antispoof extension and require a user with the account creator permissions to override and create (and vice versa). :-) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Oshwah" title="User:Oshwah"><b><span style="color:#C00000">~Oshwah~</span></b></a><sup><small><b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Oshwah" title="User talk:Oshwah"><span style="color:blue">(talk)</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Oshwah" title="Special:Contributions/Oshwah"><span style="color:green">(contribs)</span></a></b></small></sup>  16:42, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T16:42:00.000Z|1997kB|2019-06-14T16:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nosebagbear|2019-06-14T22:36:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T16:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T16:59:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T16:42:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T16:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Oshwah&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T16:42:00.000Z|1997kB|2019-06-14T16:36:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nosebagbear|2019-06-14T22:36:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T16:42:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Oshwah" title="User:Oshwah">Oshwah</a>:</span> - I realise I agree with you, but to run with the Event-Coordinator compromise theory a bit further, it would be clearer cut - the damage possible is pretty tiny. Even if they made every account they created confirmed, it wouldn't cause a great uptick in carnage.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nosebagbear" title="User:Nosebagbear">Nosebagbear</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nosebagbear" title="User talk:Nosebagbear">talk</a>) 22:36, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nosebagbear|2019-06-14T22:36:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T16:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-15T02:31:00.000Z|Nosebagbear|2019-06-14T22:36:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T22:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nosebagbear&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nosebagbear|2019-06-14T22:36:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T16:42:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Oshwah|2019-06-15T02:31:00.000Z|Nosebagbear|2019-06-14T22:36:00.000Z"></span>Fair point. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Oshwah" title="User:Oshwah"><b><span style="color:#C00000">~Oshwah~</span></b></a><sup><small><b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Oshwah" title="User talk:Oshwah"><span style="color:blue">(talk)</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Oshwah" title="Special:Contributions/Oshwah"><span style="color:green">(contribs)</span></a></b></small></sup>  02:31, 15 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-15T02:31:00.000Z|Nosebagbear|2019-06-14T22:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-15T02:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Oshwah&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Oshwah|2019-06-15T02:31:00.000Z|Nosebagbear|2019-06-14T22:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T16:59:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T16:42:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Oshwah" title="User:Oshwah">Oshwah</a>:</span> what is the expected amount of accounts to be created by "new" ACC volunteers per period? (i.e. would 6 or 8 be enough?) since the "rights they don't need" here to ECC users is expected to be way more than is needed by the relatively minuscule ACC team. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 16:59, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T16:59:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T16:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T17:41:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T16:59:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T16:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T16:59:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T16:42:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T17:41:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T16:59:00.000Z"></span>Xaosflux</a> - Honestly, any increase from 4 would be beneficial. Even if the increase is just by a few... :-) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Oshwah" title="User:Oshwah"><b><span style="color:#C00000">~Oshwah~</span></b></a><sup><small><b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Oshwah" title="User talk:Oshwah"><span style="color:blue">(talk)</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Oshwah" title="Special:Contributions/Oshwah"><span style="color:green">(contribs)</span></a></b></small></sup>  17:41, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T17:41:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T16:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T17:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Oshwah&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T17:41:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T16:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li></ul>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:19:00.000Z|New_bot"></span>I think we should have a bot or some kind of tool check for accounts which are hitting the account creation limit but do not hold the rights event coordinator, account creator and are also not ACC tool users. The account creation limit was lowered for a reason and increasing it without keeping a check in place would be a gross violation of <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BEANS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BEANS">WP:BEANS</a> imo. Thoughts, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nosebagbear" title="User:Nosebagbear">Nosebagbear</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JJMC89" title="User:JJMC89">JJMC89</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux">Xaosflux</a>,  and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Oshwah" title="User:Oshwah">Oshwah</a>:</span>? --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 14:19, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:19:00.000Z|New_bot&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:27:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:29:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-06-14T19:46:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Galobtter|2019-06-15T15:33:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:19:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T14:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:19:00.000Z|New_bot"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:19:00.000Z|New_bot"></span>I think we should have a bot or some kind of tool check for accounts which are hitting the account creation limit but do not hold the rights event coordinator, account creator and are also not ACC tool users. The account creation limit was lowered for a reason and increasing it without keeping a check in place would be a gross violation of <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BEANS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BEANS">WP:BEANS</a> imo. Thoughts, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nosebagbear" title="User:Nosebagbear">Nosebagbear</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JJMC89" title="User:JJMC89">JJMC89</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux">Xaosflux</a>,  and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Oshwah" title="User:Oshwah">Oshwah</a>:</span>? --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 14:19, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:19:00.000Z|New_bot&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:27:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:29:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-06-14T19:46:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Galobtter|2019-06-15T15:33:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:19:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T14:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:19:00.000Z|New_bot"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:27:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:19:00.000Z"></span>A recurring <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_reports" title="Wikipedia:Database reports">database report</a> may be able to solve this for you. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 14:27, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:27:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:30:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T14:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:27:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:19:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:30:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:27:00.000Z"></span>If this is a major issue, the report would have to be run quite frequently, and viewed frequently by patrolling users. Otherwise, this method might not be effective enough at stopping abuse and quickly enough... <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Oshwah" title="User:Oshwah"><b><span style="color:#C00000">~Oshwah~</span></b></a><sup><small><b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Oshwah" title="User talk:Oshwah"><span style="color:blue">(talk)</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Oshwah" title="Special:Contributions/Oshwah"><span style="color:green">(contribs)</span></a></b></small></sup>  14:30, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:30:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T14:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Oshwah&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:30:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:29:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:19:00.000Z"></span>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Edit_conflict" title="Help:Edit conflict">edit conflict</a>)</small> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK">QEDK</a> - Doesn't sound like a bad idea to me. How would this new bot alert others that an account is hitting a limit and isn't within one of those groups? Who would this bot alert? Where? This is something that we should figure out if we're going to consider an idea like this... :-) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Oshwah" title="User:Oshwah"><b><span style="color:#C00000">~Oshwah~</span></b></a><sup><small><b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Oshwah" title="User talk:Oshwah"><span style="color:blue">(talk)</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Oshwah" title="Special:Contributions/Oshwah"><span style="color:green">(contribs)</span></a></b></small></sup>  14:29, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:29:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:33:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:29:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T14:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Oshwah&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:29:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:19:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:33:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:29:00.000Z"></span>It can function the same way AnomieBot handles <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:TPERTABLE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TPERTABLE">WP:TPERTABLE</a>, there's no annoying notifications involved and interested people can simply watch the page and report when they find anyone suspect. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 14:33, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:33:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:36:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:33:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T14:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:33:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:29:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:36:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:33:00.000Z"></span>QEDK</a> - Nice... I like it. :-) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Oshwah" title="User:Oshwah"><b><span style="color:#C00000">~Oshwah~</span></b></a><sup><small><b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Oshwah" title="User talk:Oshwah"><span style="color:blue">(talk)</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Oshwah" title="Special:Contributions/Oshwah"><span style="color:green">(contribs)</span></a></b></small></sup>  14:36, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:36:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:38:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:36:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T14:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Oshwah&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:36:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:33:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:38:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:36:00.000Z"></span>Functionally, a bot wouldn't be able to work "that way".  Also, bot's wont be able to see "that you got denied by the limit" , but a bot could periodically generate a report of "accounts created per user over some time period" and could either filter out members of certain groups or just report the groups as well.  — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 14:38, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:38:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:49:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:38:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T14:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:38:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:36:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:49:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:38:00.000Z"></span>Why not? The logic is pretty simple, you would need to check creation logs iterating a certain period (maybe an hour) and track accounts which create another account for 24 hours at minimum and more if they somehow meet the limit each day (hence, suspect). Wikipedia accounts which do not have a similarly authorized account in ACC (or the other account creation rights as well) have demonstrably no reason to carry out actions like this, hence red-flagging them almost immediately. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 14:49, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:49:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:54:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:49:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T14:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:49:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:38:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:54:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:49:00.000Z"></span>A bot could create a report, technically it won't be able to tell if you actually got stopped by the limit, just that you hit it or approached it.  It wouldn't work "the way" of the protected edit requests in that those don't mine logs, they make use of what links here/category memberships.  But the output could still be made.  Have a bot periodically (say hourly) ingest the user account creation log and make a report.  I think it may even be helpful to have it report on everyone, or everyone with say 3+ creations - and also to identify accounts made by coordinators, etc - so they can be coached as needed. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 14:54, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:54:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|QEDK|2019-06-14T15:06:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:54:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T14:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:54:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:49:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-06-14T15:06:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:54:00.000Z"></span>Yeah, I mean, technically not. But I'm saying it like the logic is clear that an account cannot make more than 10, so an account which makes 10 accounts can be construed to have hit the limit, what's important is identifying if anyone is trying to make a large number of accounts in a short period of time, hitting the actual limit is more of a formality. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 15:06, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-06-14T15:06:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T15:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-06-14T15:06:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:54:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal|2019-06-14T19:46:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:19:00.000Z"></span>Something like <a href="https://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/36938" class="extiw" title="quarry:query/36938">quarry:query/36938</a>? It can't tell if they're an ACC tool user, obviously. If this query is correct, there's not a whole lot of ACC activity going on. <span style="font-family:sans-serif">— <span style="font-weight:bold"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal" title="User:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal" title="User talk:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:green">talk</span></a></sup></span></span> 19:46, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-06-14T19:46:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T20:07:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-06-14T19:46:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T19:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal|2019-06-14T19:46:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:19:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T20:07:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-06-14T19:46:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal" title="User:MusikAnimal">MusikAnimal</a>:</span> thanks for the query, even including everyone with 3+ creations over the last whole 10 days (<a href="https://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/36941" class="extiw" title="quarry:query/36941">quarry:query/36941</a>).  I haven't checked their groups, but the impact here seems to be very small. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 20:07, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T20:07:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-06-14T19:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|AfroThundr3007730|2019-06-15T01:51:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T20:07:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T20:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T20:07:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-06-14T19:46:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|AfroThundr3007730|2019-06-15T01:51:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T20:07:00.000Z"></span>Almost all ACC users in that 10+ range, minus the one event coordinator. Unfortunately I won't be appearing in that query anytime soon due to a certain rangeblock with "account creation disabled" set. Really puts a damper on ACC work... — AfroThundr <sup>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AfroThundr3007730" title="User:AfroThundr3007730">u</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AfroThundr3007730" title="User talk:AfroThundr3007730">t</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/AfroThundr3007730" title="Special:Contributions/AfroThundr3007730">c</a>)</sup> 01:51, 15 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|AfroThundr3007730|2019-06-15T01:51:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T20:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nosebagbear|2019-06-15T14:32:00.000Z|AfroThundr3007730|2019-06-15T01:51:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-15T01:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;AfroThundr3007730&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|AfroThundr3007730|2019-06-15T01:51:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T20:07:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nosebagbear|2019-06-15T14:32:00.000Z|AfroThundr3007730|2019-06-15T01:51:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AfroThundr3007730" title="User:AfroThundr3007730">AfroThundr3007730</a>:</span> - I thought individual accounts could be exempted from rangeblocks? If so then ACC tool users would be a priority <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nosebagbear" title="User:Nosebagbear">Nosebagbear</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nosebagbear" title="User talk:Nosebagbear">talk</a>) 14:32, 15 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nosebagbear|2019-06-15T14:32:00.000Z|AfroThundr3007730|2019-06-15T01:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-15T15:16:00.000Z|Nosebagbear|2019-06-15T14:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-15T14:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nosebagbear&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nosebagbear|2019-06-15T14:32:00.000Z|AfroThundr3007730|2019-06-15T01:51:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-15T15:16:00.000Z|Nosebagbear|2019-06-15T14:32:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AfroThundr3007730" title="User:AfroThundr3007730">AfroThundr3007730</a>:</span> this is a known issue, even effects admins: <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189362" class="extiw" title="phab:T189362">phab:T189362</a>. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 15:16, 15 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-15T15:16:00.000Z|Nosebagbear|2019-06-15T14:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|AfroThundr3007730|2019-06-15T18:37:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-15T15:16:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-15T15:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-15T15:16:00.000Z|Nosebagbear|2019-06-15T14:32:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:27:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:19:00.000Z"></span>A recurring <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_reports" title="Wikipedia:Database reports">database report</a> may be able to solve this for you. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 14:27, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:27:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:30:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T14:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:27:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:19:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:30:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:27:00.000Z"></span>If this is a major issue, the report would have to be run quite frequently, and viewed frequently by patrolling users. Otherwise, this method might not be effective enough at stopping abuse and quickly enough... <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Oshwah" title="User:Oshwah"><b><span style="color:#C00000">~Oshwah~</span></b></a><sup><small><b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Oshwah" title="User talk:Oshwah"><span style="color:blue">(talk)</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Oshwah" title="Special:Contributions/Oshwah"><span style="color:green">(contribs)</span></a></b></small></sup>  14:30, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:30:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T14:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Oshwah&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:30:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:29:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:19:00.000Z"></span>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Edit_conflict" title="Help:Edit conflict">edit conflict</a>)</small> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK">QEDK</a> - Doesn't sound like a bad idea to me. How would this new bot alert others that an account is hitting a limit and isn't within one of those groups? Who would this bot alert? Where? This is something that we should figure out if we're going to consider an idea like this... :-) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Oshwah" title="User:Oshwah"><b><span style="color:#C00000">~Oshwah~</span></b></a><sup><small><b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Oshwah" title="User talk:Oshwah"><span style="color:blue">(talk)</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Oshwah" title="Special:Contributions/Oshwah"><span style="color:green">(contribs)</span></a></b></small></sup>  14:29, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:29:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:33:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:29:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T14:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Oshwah&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:29:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:19:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:33:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:29:00.000Z"></span>It can function the same way AnomieBot handles <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:TPERTABLE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TPERTABLE">WP:TPERTABLE</a>, there's no annoying notifications involved and interested people can simply watch the page and report when they find anyone suspect. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 14:33, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:33:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:36:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:33:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T14:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:33:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:29:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:36:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:33:00.000Z"></span>QEDK</a> - Nice... I like it. :-) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Oshwah" title="User:Oshwah"><b><span style="color:#C00000">~Oshwah~</span></b></a><sup><small><b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Oshwah" title="User talk:Oshwah"><span style="color:blue">(talk)</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Oshwah" title="Special:Contributions/Oshwah"><span style="color:green">(contribs)</span></a></b></small></sup>  14:36, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:36:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:38:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:36:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T14:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Oshwah&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:36:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:33:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:38:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:36:00.000Z"></span>Functionally, a bot wouldn't be able to work "that way".  Also, bot's wont be able to see "that you got denied by the limit" , but a bot could periodically generate a report of "accounts created per user over some time period" and could either filter out members of certain groups or just report the groups as well.  — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 14:38, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:38:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:49:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:38:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T14:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:38:00.000Z|Oshwah|2019-06-14T14:36:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:49:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:38:00.000Z"></span>Why not? The logic is pretty simple, you would need to check creation logs iterating a certain period (maybe an hour) and track accounts which create another account for 24 hours at minimum and more if they somehow meet the limit each day (hence, suspect). Wikipedia accounts which do not have a similarly authorized account in ACC (or the other account creation rights as well) have demonstrably no reason to carry out actions like this, hence red-flagging them almost immediately. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 14:49, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:49:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:54:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:49:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T14:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:49:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:38:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:54:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:49:00.000Z"></span>A bot could create a report, technically it won't be able to tell if you actually got stopped by the limit, just that you hit it or approached it.  It wouldn't work "the way" of the protected edit requests in that those don't mine logs, they make use of what links here/category memberships.  But the output could still be made.  Have a bot periodically (say hourly) ingest the user account creation log and make a report.  I think it may even be helpful to have it report on everyone, or everyone with say 3+ creations - and also to identify accounts made by coordinators, etc - so they can be coached as needed. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 14:54, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:54:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|QEDK|2019-06-14T15:06:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:54:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T14:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:54:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:49:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-06-14T15:06:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:54:00.000Z"></span>Yeah, I mean, technically not. But I'm saying it like the logic is clear that an account cannot make more than 10, so an account which makes 10 accounts can be construed to have hit the limit, what's important is identifying if anyone is trying to make a large number of accounts in a short period of time, hitting the actual limit is more of a formality. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 15:06, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-06-14T15:06:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T15:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-06-14T15:06:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T14:54:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal|2019-06-14T19:46:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:19:00.000Z"></span>Something like <a href="https://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/36938" class="extiw" title="quarry:query/36938">quarry:query/36938</a>? It can't tell if they're an ACC tool user, obviously. If this query is correct, there's not a whole lot of ACC activity going on. <span style="font-family:sans-serif">— <span style="font-weight:bold"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal" title="User:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal" title="User talk:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:green">talk</span></a></sup></span></span> 19:46, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-06-14T19:46:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T20:07:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-06-14T19:46:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T19:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal|2019-06-14T19:46:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:19:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T20:07:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-06-14T19:46:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal" title="User:MusikAnimal">MusikAnimal</a>:</span> thanks for the query, even including everyone with 3+ creations over the last whole 10 days (<a href="https://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/36941" class="extiw" title="quarry:query/36941">quarry:query/36941</a>).  I haven't checked their groups, but the impact here seems to be very small. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 20:07, 14 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T20:07:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-06-14T19:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|AfroThundr3007730|2019-06-15T01:51:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T20:07:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-14T20:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T20:07:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-06-14T19:46:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|AfroThundr3007730|2019-06-15T01:51:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T20:07:00.000Z"></span>Almost all ACC users in that 10+ range, minus the one event coordinator. Unfortunately I won't be appearing in that query anytime soon due to a certain rangeblock with "account creation disabled" set. Really puts a damper on ACC work... — AfroThundr <sup>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AfroThundr3007730" title="User:AfroThundr3007730">u</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AfroThundr3007730" title="User talk:AfroThundr3007730">t</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/AfroThundr3007730" title="Special:Contributions/AfroThundr3007730">c</a>)</sup> 01:51, 15 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|AfroThundr3007730|2019-06-15T01:51:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T20:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nosebagbear|2019-06-15T14:32:00.000Z|AfroThundr3007730|2019-06-15T01:51:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-15T01:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;AfroThundr3007730&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|AfroThundr3007730|2019-06-15T01:51:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-14T20:07:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nosebagbear|2019-06-15T14:32:00.000Z|AfroThundr3007730|2019-06-15T01:51:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AfroThundr3007730" title="User:AfroThundr3007730">AfroThundr3007730</a>:</span> - I thought individual accounts could be exempted from rangeblocks? If so then ACC tool users would be a priority <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nosebagbear" title="User:Nosebagbear">Nosebagbear</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nosebagbear" title="User talk:Nosebagbear">talk</a>) 14:32, 15 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nosebagbear|2019-06-15T14:32:00.000Z|AfroThundr3007730|2019-06-15T01:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-15T15:16:00.000Z|Nosebagbear|2019-06-15T14:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-15T14:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nosebagbear&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nosebagbear|2019-06-15T14:32:00.000Z|AfroThundr3007730|2019-06-15T01:51:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-15T15:16:00.000Z|Nosebagbear|2019-06-15T14:32:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AfroThundr3007730" title="User:AfroThundr3007730">AfroThundr3007730</a>:</span> this is a known issue, even effects admins: <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189362" class="extiw" title="phab:T189362">phab:T189362</a>. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 15:16, 15 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-15T15:16:00.000Z|Nosebagbear|2019-06-15T14:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|AfroThundr3007730|2019-06-15T18:37:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-15T15:16:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-15T15:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-15T15:16:00.000Z|Nosebagbear|2019-06-15T14:32:00.000Z"></span>
 <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|AfroThundr3007730|2019-06-15T18:37:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-15T15:16:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nosebagbear" title="User:Nosebagbear">Nosebagbear</a>:</span> Besides IPBE, I'm not aware of any (current) facility to exempt an individual user from the effects of a rangeblock, at least not the account creation part.
 <dl><dd><span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux">Xaosflux</a>:</span> - thanks, suspect it was one of those merging of facts I got while swinging around the policy pages. Clearly, I'd made a terrible nerd <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nosebagbear" title="User:Nosebagbear">Nosebagbear</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nosebagbear" title="User talk:Nosebagbear">talk</a>)</dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux">Xaosflux</a>:</span> Yep, definitely tracking that one, and if they do get around to implementing it, I would be first in line to request IPBE so I can get back to helping in ACC. — AfroThundr <sup>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AfroThundr3007730" title="User:AfroThundr3007730">u</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AfroThundr3007730" title="User talk:AfroThundr3007730">t</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/AfroThundr3007730" title="Special:Contributions/AfroThundr3007730">c</a>)</sup> 18:37, 15 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|AfroThundr3007730|2019-06-15T18:37:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-15T15:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-15T18:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;AfroThundr3007730&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|AfroThundr3007730|2019-06-15T18:37:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-15T15:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Galobtter|2019-06-15T15:33:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:19:00.000Z"></span>Could use an abusefilter for this - something along the lines of <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/527" title="Special:AbuseFilter/527">Special:AbuseFilter/527</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Galobtter" title="User:Galobtter">Galobtter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Galobtter" title="User talk:Galobtter">pingó mió</a>) 15:33, 15 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Galobtter|2019-06-15T15:33:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-15T15:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Galobtter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Galobtter|2019-06-15T15:33:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dd><span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux">Xaosflux</a>:</span> Yep, definitely tracking that one, and if they do get around to implementing it, I would be first in line to request IPBE so I can get back to helping in ACC. — AfroThundr <sup>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AfroThundr3007730" title="User:AfroThundr3007730">u</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AfroThundr3007730" title="User talk:AfroThundr3007730">t</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/AfroThundr3007730" title="Special:Contributions/AfroThundr3007730">c</a>)</sup> 18:37, 15 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|AfroThundr3007730|2019-06-15T18:37:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-15T15:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-15T18:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;AfroThundr3007730&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|AfroThundr3007730|2019-06-15T18:37:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-15T15:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Galobtter|2019-06-15T15:33:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:19:00.000Z"></span>Could use an abusefilter for this - something along the lines of <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/527" title="Special:AbuseFilter/527">Special:AbuseFilter/527</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Galobtter" title="User:Galobtter">Galobtter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Galobtter" title="User talk:Galobtter">pingó mió</a>) 15:33, 15 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Galobtter|2019-06-15T15:33:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-15T15:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Galobtter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Galobtter|2019-06-15T15:33:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-06-14T14:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <h3><span class="mw-headline" id="Event_Coordinator_Rights" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Event_Coordinator_Rights|RfC:_Alteration_of_Account_Creation_Limits\/Account_Creator_Rights|2019-06-17T18:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nosebagbear|2019-06-17T18:46:00.000Z|Event_Coordinator_Rights&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:3,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Event_Coordinator_Rights|RfC:_Alteration_of_Account_Creation_Limits/Account_Creator_Rights|2019-06-17T18:46:00.000Z"></span>Event Coordinator Rights<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Event_Coordinator_Rights|RfC:_Alteration_of_Account_Creation_Limits/Account_Creator_Rights|2019-06-17T18:46:00.000Z"></span></span></h3>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nosebagbear|2019-06-17T18:46:00.000Z|Event_Coordinator_Rights"></span>The idea of granting <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:EVC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:EVC">(permanent) Event Co-ordinator</a> rights to any ACC tool user who didn't possess Account Creator rights was mooted as a compromise. The right waives the account creation limit, and also allows accounts to be made confirmed. Obviously the latter isn't needed, but as I noted above, even if a tool-user went rogue, the maximum potential damage is significantly smaller (than the additional rights of Account Creator). It makes a good halfway house between nothing and Account Creator, and if <i>Option 1</i> turns out to be inviable, then it might be the only way to <i>significantly</i> help with their task. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nosebagbear" title="User:Nosebagbear">Nosebagbear</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nosebagbear" title="User talk:Nosebagbear">talk</a>) 18:46, 17 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nosebagbear|2019-06-17T18:46:00.000Z|Event_Coordinator_Rights&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T10:20:00.000Z|Nosebagbear|2019-06-17T18:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|JJMC89|2019-06-29T17:29:00.000Z|Nosebagbear|2019-06-17T18:46:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-17T18:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nosebagbear&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nosebagbear|2019-06-17T18:46:00.000Z|Event_Coordinator_Rights"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nosebagbear|2019-06-17T18:46:00.000Z|Event_Coordinator_Rights"></span>The idea of granting <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:EVC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:EVC">(permanent) Event Co-ordinator</a> rights to any ACC tool user who didn't possess Account Creator rights was mooted as a compromise. The right waives the account creation limit, and also allows accounts to be made confirmed. Obviously the latter isn't needed, but as I noted above, even if a tool-user went rogue, the maximum potential damage is significantly smaller (than the additional rights of Account Creator). It makes a good halfway house between nothing and Account Creator, and if <i>Option 1</i> turns out to be inviable, then it might be the only way to <i>significantly</i> help with their task. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nosebagbear" title="User:Nosebagbear">Nosebagbear</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nosebagbear" title="User talk:Nosebagbear">talk</a>) 18:46, 17 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nosebagbear|2019-06-17T18:46:00.000Z|Event_Coordinator_Rights&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T10:20:00.000Z|Nosebagbear|2019-06-17T18:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|JJMC89|2019-06-29T17:29:00.000Z|Nosebagbear|2019-06-17T18:46:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-17T18:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nosebagbear&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nosebagbear|2019-06-17T18:46:00.000Z|Event_Coordinator_Rights"></span>
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-<ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T10:20:00.000Z|Nosebagbear|2019-06-17T18:46:00.000Z"></span>Oppose</b> The event co-ordinator right will allow the ACC team to grant confirmed right to new users. And the new users will start to create articles in the mainspace, which will cause more damage. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Masumrezarock100" title="User:Masumrezarock100"><u style="color:#087643;font-face:arial;text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;"><i><b>Masum Reza</b></i></u></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masumrezarock100" title="User talk:Masumrezarock100"><sup style="color:orange;"><i>📞</i></sup></a> 10:20, 29 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T10:20:00.000Z|Nosebagbear|2019-06-17T18:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-29T10:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Masumrezarock100&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T10:20:00.000Z|Nosebagbear|2019-06-17T18:46:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JJMC89|2019-06-29T17:29:00.000Z|Nosebagbear|2019-06-17T18:46:00.000Z"></span>Oppose</b> We (ACC tool admins) want new ACCers to be rate limited, so that we can easily monitor adherence to the ACC Guide. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JJMC89" title="User:JJMC89">JJMC89</a> <small>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JJMC89" title="User talk:JJMC89">T</a><b>·</b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/JJMC89" title="Special:Contributions/JJMC89">C</a>)</small> 17:29, 29 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JJMC89|2019-06-29T17:29:00.000Z|Nosebagbear|2019-06-17T18:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-29T17:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JJMC89&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JJMC89|2019-06-29T17:29:00.000Z|Nosebagbear|2019-06-17T18:46:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T10:20:00.000Z|Nosebagbear|2019-06-17T18:46:00.000Z"></span>Oppose</b> The event co-ordinator right will allow the ACC team to grant confirmed right to new users. And the new users will start to create articles in the mainspace, which will cause more damage. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Masumrezarock100" title="User:Masumrezarock100"><u style="color:#087643;font-face:arial;text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;"><i><b>Masum Reza</b></i></u></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masumrezarock100" title="User talk:Masumrezarock100"><sup style="color:orange;"><i>📞</i></sup></a> 10:20, 29 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T10:20:00.000Z|Nosebagbear|2019-06-17T18:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-29T10:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Masumrezarock100&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T10:20:00.000Z|Nosebagbear|2019-06-17T18:46:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JJMC89|2019-06-29T17:29:00.000Z|Nosebagbear|2019-06-17T18:46:00.000Z"></span>Oppose</b> We (ACC tool admins) want new ACCers to be rate limited, so that we can easily monitor adherence to the ACC Guide. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JJMC89" title="User:JJMC89">JJMC89</a> <small>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JJMC89" title="User talk:JJMC89">T</a><b>·</b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/JJMC89" title="Special:Contributions/JJMC89">C</a>)</small> 17:29, 29 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JJMC89|2019-06-29T17:29:00.000Z|Nosebagbear|2019-06-17T18:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-29T17:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JJMC89&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JJMC89|2019-06-29T17:29:00.000Z|Nosebagbear|2019-06-17T18:46:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
 <h3><span class="mw-headline" id="Back_to_6_per_day" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Back_to_6_per_day|RfC:_Alteration_of_Account_Creation_Limits\/Account_Creator_Rights|2019-06-25T13:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-25T13:16:00.000Z|Back_to_6_per_day&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:3,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Back_to_6_per_day|RfC:_Alteration_of_Account_Creation_Limits/Account_Creator_Rights|2019-06-25T13:16:00.000Z"></span>Back to 6 per day<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Back_to_6_per_day|RfC:_Alteration_of_Account_Creation_Limits/Account_Creator_Rights|2019-06-25T13:16:00.000Z"></span></span></h3>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-25T13:16:00.000Z|Back_to_6_per_day"></span>So, the prior "temporary" reduction has been lifted and the setting is back to 6 accounts per day for all projects; that being said is anything really needed now? I think that it is reasonable for volunteers working with the ACC team to get account creator access after a short warm-up/training period - and having the team communicate the plan to new members and getting those swiftly processed (say within a fortnight of actively working with ACC) is a good thing.  — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 13:16, 25 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-25T13:16:00.000Z|Back_to_6_per_day&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|AfroThundr3007730|2019-06-25T15:49:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-25T13:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Otr500|2019-06-29T08:55:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-25T13:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Ajraddatz|2019-07-01T01:11:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-25T13:16:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-25T13:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-25T13:16:00.000Z|Back_to_6_per_day"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-25T13:16:00.000Z|Back_to_6_per_day"></span>So, the prior "temporary" reduction has been lifted and the setting is back to 6 accounts per day for all projects; that being said is anything really needed now? I think that it is reasonable for volunteers working with the ACC team to get account creator access after a short warm-up/training period - and having the team communicate the plan to new members and getting those swiftly processed (say within a fortnight of actively working with ACC) is a good thing.  — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 13:16, 25 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-06-25T13:16:00.000Z|Back_to_6_per_day&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|AfroThundr3007730|2019-06-25T15:49:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-25T13:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Otr500|2019-06-29T08:55:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-25T13:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Ajraddatz|2019-07-01T01:11:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-25T13:16:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-25T13:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-06-25T13:16:00.000Z|Back_to_6_per_day"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|AfroThundr3007730|2019-06-25T15:49:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-25T13:16:00.000Z"></span>I haven't personally noticed any issues with ACC members requesting and getting the bit granted — after they have demonstrated continuous good judgment for a few weeks, that is. I still think it might make sense to raise the limit to 10 for enwiki, being the largest userbase, and with that query and edit filter from above, we can continue to monitor non-ACC users with high creation rates. — AfroThundr <sup>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AfroThundr3007730" title="User:AfroThundr3007730">u</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AfroThundr3007730" title="User talk:AfroThundr3007730">t</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/AfroThundr3007730" title="Special:Contributions/AfroThundr3007730">c</a>)</sup> 15:49, 25 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|AfroThundr3007730|2019-06-25T15:49:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-25T13:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-25T15:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;AfroThundr3007730&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|AfroThundr3007730|2019-06-25T15:49:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-25T13:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
-<ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Otr500|2019-06-29T08:55:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-25T13:16:00.000Z"></span>Comments</b>: I am new to this, support account creation, and was appalled at the backlog. A note that 2-3 days may be needed, may take weeks or even months, and a backlog of 4 months seems to point to a possible loss of good editors at worse, those legitimately seeking an account to lose interest or maybe just not actively seeking an account. Maybe I am looking at this wrong but a <i>backlog of 4 months</i> seems to indicate "is anything really needed now?" a strange question. I understand the need to limit account creation abuse and possible vandalism, but if what is in place seems to be a horrible failure then why not an increase to maybe the 10 suggested instead of back to the statue-quo? I haven't looked at this, just read over some of the above, but has there been a problem with "trusted user" abuse to cause the decrease in the first place?  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Otr500" title="User:Otr500">Otr500</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Otr500" title="User talk:Otr500">talk</a>) 08:55, 29 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Otr500|2019-06-29T08:55:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-25T13:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|JJMC89|2019-06-29T17:28:00.000Z|Otr500|2019-06-29T08:55:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-29T08:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Otr500&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Otr500|2019-06-29T08:55:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-25T13:16:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JJMC89|2019-06-29T17:28:00.000Z|Otr500|2019-06-29T08:55:00.000Z"></span>The backlog doesn't have anything to do with the rate limit. Almost everyone working at ACC has <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r886049734"/><span class="monospaced">noratelimit</span> (from <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r886049734"/><span class="monospaced">accountcreator</span> or <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r886049734"/><span class="monospaced">sysop</span>), so the limit doesn't apply to them. The backlog is from a shortage of volunteers willing to devote time to working at ACC. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JJMC89" title="User:JJMC89">JJMC89</a> <small>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JJMC89" title="User talk:JJMC89">T</a><b>·</b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/JJMC89" title="Special:Contributions/JJMC89">C</a>)</small> 17:28, 29 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JJMC89|2019-06-29T17:28:00.000Z|Otr500|2019-06-29T08:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-29T17:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JJMC89&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JJMC89|2019-06-29T17:28:00.000Z|Otr500|2019-06-29T08:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ajraddatz|2019-07-01T01:11:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-25T13:16:00.000Z"></span>If it's back up to 6, then I don't think further changes are needed. New volunteers can get the accountcreator bit once they have a bit of experience. The biggest issue is number of volunteers. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ajraddatz" title="User:Ajraddatz">Ajraddatz</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ajraddatz" title="User talk:Ajraddatz">talk</a>) 01:11, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ajraddatz|2019-07-01T01:11:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-25T13:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T01:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ajraddatz&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ajraddatz|2019-07-01T01:11:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-25T13:16:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|AfroThundr3007730|2019-06-25T15:49:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-25T13:16:00.000Z"></span>I haven't personally noticed any issues with ACC members requesting and getting the bit granted — after they have demonstrated continuous good judgment for a few weeks, that is. I still think it might make sense to raise the limit to 10 for enwiki, being the largest userbase, and with that query and edit filter from above, we can continue to monitor non-ACC users with high creation rates. — AfroThundr <sup>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AfroThundr3007730" title="User:AfroThundr3007730">u</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AfroThundr3007730" title="User talk:AfroThundr3007730">t</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/AfroThundr3007730" title="Special:Contributions/AfroThundr3007730">c</a>)</sup> 15:49, 25 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|AfroThundr3007730|2019-06-25T15:49:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-25T13:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-25T15:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;AfroThundr3007730&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|AfroThundr3007730|2019-06-25T15:49:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-25T13:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Otr500|2019-06-29T08:55:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-25T13:16:00.000Z"></span>Comments</b>: I am new to this, support account creation, and was appalled at the backlog. A note that 2-3 days may be needed, may take weeks or even months, and a backlog of 4 months seems to point to a possible loss of good editors at worse, those legitimately seeking an account to lose interest or maybe just not actively seeking an account. Maybe I am looking at this wrong but a <i>backlog of 4 months</i> seems to indicate "is anything really needed now?" a strange question. I understand the need to limit account creation abuse and possible vandalism, but if what is in place seems to be a horrible failure then why not an increase to maybe the 10 suggested instead of back to the statue-quo? I haven't looked at this, just read over some of the above, but has there been a problem with "trusted user" abuse to cause the decrease in the first place?  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Otr500" title="User:Otr500">Otr500</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Otr500" title="User talk:Otr500">talk</a>) 08:55, 29 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Otr500|2019-06-29T08:55:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-25T13:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|JJMC89|2019-06-29T17:28:00.000Z|Otr500|2019-06-29T08:55:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-29T08:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Otr500&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Otr500|2019-06-29T08:55:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-25T13:16:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JJMC89|2019-06-29T17:28:00.000Z|Otr500|2019-06-29T08:55:00.000Z"></span>The backlog doesn't have anything to do with the rate limit. Almost everyone working at ACC has <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r886049734"/><span class="monospaced">noratelimit</span> (from <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r886049734"/><span class="monospaced">accountcreator</span> or <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r886049734"/><span class="monospaced">sysop</span>), so the limit doesn't apply to them. The backlog is from a shortage of volunteers willing to devote time to working at ACC. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JJMC89" title="User:JJMC89">JJMC89</a> <small>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JJMC89" title="User talk:JJMC89">T</a><b>·</b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/JJMC89" title="Special:Contributions/JJMC89">C</a>)</small> 17:28, 29 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JJMC89|2019-06-29T17:28:00.000Z|Otr500|2019-06-29T08:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-29T17:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JJMC89&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JJMC89|2019-06-29T17:28:00.000Z|Otr500|2019-06-29T08:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ajraddatz|2019-07-01T01:11:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-25T13:16:00.000Z"></span>If it's back up to 6, then I don't think further changes are needed. New volunteers can get the accountcreator bit once they have a bit of experience. The biggest issue is number of volunteers. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ajraddatz" title="User:Ajraddatz">Ajraddatz</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ajraddatz" title="User talk:Ajraddatz">talk</a>) 01:11, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ajraddatz|2019-07-01T01:11:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-25T13:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T01:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ajraddatz&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ajraddatz|2019-07-01T01:11:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-06-25T13:16:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="IPvandal_links_with_ranges" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|IPvandal_links_with_ranges|2019-07-06T20:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-07-06T20:13:00.000Z|IPvandal_links_with_ranges&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|IPvandal_links_with_ranges|2019-07-06T20:13:00.000Z"></span>IPvandal links with ranges<span data-mw-comment-end="h|IPvandal_links_with_ranges|2019-07-06T20:13:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ANI#Unknown_attack_on_me" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ANI"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nyttend|2019-07-06T20:13:00.000Z|IPvandal_links_with_ranges"></span>WP:ANI#Unknown attack on me</a> contains some {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:IPvandal" title="Template:IPvandal">IPvandal</a>}} links to individual IPv4s, individual IPv6s, and IPv6 ranges.  Here are three of them, plus a totally unrelated IPv4 range:
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-<p>You'll see that the template doesn't do well with some of the range code.  Is there a way we could fix this, either by instructing the template to drop the "http" link if it's not a simple IP, or by otherwise rearranging something?  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nyttend" title="User talk:Nyttend">talk</a>) 20:13, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-07-06T20:13:00.000Z|IPvandal_links_with_ranges&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-06T20:39:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-07-06T20:13:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T20:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nyttend&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nyttend|2019-07-06T20:13:00.000Z|IPvandal_links_with_ranges"></span>
+<p>You'll see that the template doesn't do well with some of the range code.  Is there a way we could fix this, either by instructing the template to drop the "http" link if it's not a simple IP, or by otherwise rearranging something?  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nyttend" title="User talk:Nyttend">talk</a>) 20:13, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-07-06T20:13:00.000Z|IPvandal_links_with_ranges&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-06T20:39:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-07-06T20:13:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T20:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nyttend&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nyttend|2019-07-06T20:13:00.000Z|IPvandal_links_with_ranges"></span>
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-<dl><dd><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AComparePages&amp;page1=Module%3AUserLinks%2Fextra&amp;page2=Module%3AUserLinks%2Fextra%2Fsandbox"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-07-06T20:39:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-07-06T20:13:00.000Z"></span>This</a> will prevent the "http" link from appearing if the input is neither a IPv4 nor IPv6, although it might be a bit kludgey. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 20:39, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-06T20:39:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-07-06T20:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-07-06T21:26:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-06T20:39:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T20:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-07-06T20:39:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-07-06T20:13:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nyttend|2019-07-06T21:26:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-06T20:39:00.000Z"></span>Thank you.  Would you advise that I seek to gain consensus before copying your new code into the module, or should I just go ahead and make the change immediately?  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nyttend" title="User talk:Nyttend">talk</a>) 21:26, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-07-06T21:26:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-06T20:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-06T21:38:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-07-06T21:26:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T21:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nyttend&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nyttend|2019-07-06T21:26:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-06T20:39:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-07-06T21:38:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-07-06T21:26:00.000Z"></span>I'm not sure either. Let's ask <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mr._Stradivarius" title="User:Mr. Stradivarius">Mr. Stradivarius</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anomie" title="User:Anomie">Anomie</a>, who are responsible for the module. Also there might be a better way to prevent it than <code>return ''</code>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 21:38, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-06T21:38:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-07-06T21:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Anomie|2019-07-07T01:07:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-06T21:38:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T21:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-07-06T21:38:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-07-06T21:26:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Anomie|2019-07-07T01:07:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-06T21:38:00.000Z"></span>Seems sensible to me. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anomie" title="User:Anomie">Anomie</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anomie" title="User talk:Anomie">⚔</a> 01:07, 7 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Anomie|2019-07-07T01:07:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-06T21:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-07T01:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Anomie&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Anomie|2019-07-07T01:07:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-06T21:38:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AComparePages&amp;page1=Module%3AUserLinks%2Fextra&amp;page2=Module%3AUserLinks%2Fextra%2Fsandbox"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-07-06T20:39:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-07-06T20:13:00.000Z"></span>This</a> will prevent the "http" link from appearing if the input is neither a IPv4 nor IPv6, although it might be a bit kludgey. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 20:39, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-06T20:39:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-07-06T20:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-07-06T21:26:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-06T20:39:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T20:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-07-06T20:39:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-07-06T20:13:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nyttend|2019-07-06T21:26:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-06T20:39:00.000Z"></span>Thank you.  Would you advise that I seek to gain consensus before copying your new code into the module, or should I just go ahead and make the change immediately?  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nyttend" title="User talk:Nyttend">talk</a>) 21:26, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-07-06T21:26:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-06T20:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-06T21:38:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-07-06T21:26:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T21:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nyttend&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nyttend|2019-07-06T21:26:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-06T20:39:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-07-06T21:38:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-07-06T21:26:00.000Z"></span>I'm not sure either. Let's ask <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mr._Stradivarius" title="User:Mr. Stradivarius">Mr. Stradivarius</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anomie" title="User:Anomie">Anomie</a>, who are responsible for the module. Also there might be a better way to prevent it than <code>return ''</code>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 21:38, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-06T21:38:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-07-06T21:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Anomie|2019-07-07T01:07:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-06T21:38:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T21:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-07-06T21:38:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-07-06T21:26:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Anomie|2019-07-07T01:07:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-06T21:38:00.000Z"></span>Seems sensible to me. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anomie" title="User:Anomie">Anomie</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anomie" title="User talk:Anomie">⚔</a> 01:07, 7 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Anomie|2019-07-07T01:07:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-06T21:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-07T01:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Anomie&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Anomie|2019-07-07T01:07:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-06T21:38:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T00:52:00.000Z|Global_count_tool_now_limited?"></span>Seems that "Global User Contributions" (at => <a class="external free" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/guc/?by=date&amp;user=Drbogdan">https://tools.wmflabs.org/guc/?by=date&amp;user=Drbogdan</a> , for instance) once gave truly "total contribution results", but now seems limited to "20 results per wiki"? - QUESTION: is there a way to again obtain truly "total contribution results" with this wiki tool (or some other related one) - and *Not* be so limited (to some number of results per wiki)? - in any case - Enjoy! :) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Drbogdan" title="User talk:Drbogdan">talk</a>) 00:52, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T00:52:00.000Z|Global_count_tool_now_limited?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-04T01:21:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T00:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|BD2412|2019-07-04T01:40:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T00:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Krinkle|2019-07-05T17:57:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T00:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T00:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Drbogdan&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T00:52:00.000Z|Global_count_tool_now_limited?"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T00:52:00.000Z|Global_count_tool_now_limited?"></span>Seems that "Global User Contributions" (at => <a class="external free" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/guc/?by=date&amp;user=Drbogdan">https://tools.wmflabs.org/guc/?by=date&amp;user=Drbogdan</a> , for instance) once gave truly "total contribution results", but now seems limited to "20 results per wiki"? - QUESTION: is there a way to again obtain truly "total contribution results" with this wiki tool (or some other related one) - and *Not* be so limited (to some number of results per wiki)? - in any case - Enjoy! :) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Drbogdan" title="User talk:Drbogdan">talk</a>) 00:52, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T00:52:00.000Z|Global_count_tool_now_limited?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-04T01:21:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T00:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|BD2412|2019-07-04T01:40:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T00:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Krinkle|2019-07-05T17:57:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T00:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T00:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Drbogdan&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T00:52:00.000Z|Global_count_tool_now_limited?"></span>
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-<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-04T01:21:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T00:52:00.000Z"></span>Drbogdan</a>, Hey, at least it's working now (it was down for a while). There is an alternate tool at <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://xtools.wmflabs.org/globalcontribs">https://xtools.wmflabs.org/globalcontribs</a> which may work better for you. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AntiCompositeNumber" title="User:AntiCompositeNumber">AntiCompositeNumber</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AntiCompositeNumber" title="User talk:AntiCompositeNumber">talk</a>) 01:21, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-04T01:21:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T00:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T01:39:00.000Z|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-04T01:21:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T01:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;AntiCompositeNumber&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-04T01:21:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T00:52:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AntiCompositeNumber" title="User:AntiCompositeNumber"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T01:39:00.000Z|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-04T01:21:00.000Z"></span>AntiCompositeNumber</a> - Thank you for your reply - and suggestion - the newly suggested counter seems limited to english and english-related wikis - and not wikis from other countries as the <a class="external free" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/guc/?by=date&amp;user=Drbogdan">https://tools.wmflabs.org/guc/?by=date&amp;user=Drbogdan</a> counter seemed to be - at least at one time - hopefully, the old counter will be back up - and work like it seemed to at one time - in any case - Thanks again for your reply - and - Enjoy! :) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Drbogdan" title="User talk:Drbogdan">talk</a>) 01:39, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T01:39:00.000Z|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-04T01:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-04T02:26:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T01:39:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T01:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Drbogdan&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T01:39:00.000Z|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-04T01:21:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-04T01:21:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T00:52:00.000Z"></span>Drbogdan</a>, Hey, at least it's working now (it was down for a while). There is an alternate tool at <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://xtools.wmflabs.org/globalcontribs">https://xtools.wmflabs.org/globalcontribs</a> which may work better for you. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AntiCompositeNumber" title="User:AntiCompositeNumber">AntiCompositeNumber</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AntiCompositeNumber" title="User talk:AntiCompositeNumber">talk</a>) 01:21, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-04T01:21:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T00:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T01:39:00.000Z|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-04T01:21:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T01:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;AntiCompositeNumber&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-04T01:21:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T00:52:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AntiCompositeNumber" title="User:AntiCompositeNumber"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T01:39:00.000Z|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-04T01:21:00.000Z"></span>AntiCompositeNumber</a> - Thank you for your reply - and suggestion - the newly suggested counter seems limited to english and english-related wikis - and not wikis from other countries as the <a class="external free" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/guc/?by=date&amp;user=Drbogdan">https://tools.wmflabs.org/guc/?by=date&amp;user=Drbogdan</a> counter seemed to be - at least at one time - hopefully, the old counter will be back up - and work like it seemed to at one time - in any case - Thanks again for your reply - and - Enjoy! :) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Drbogdan" title="User talk:Drbogdan">talk</a>) 01:39, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T01:39:00.000Z|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-04T01:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-04T02:26:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T01:39:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T01:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Drbogdan&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T01:39:00.000Z|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-04T01:21:00.000Z"></span>
 <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-04T02:26:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T01:39:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a>:</span> It's not limited to English wikis, rather it's just listing global edits chronologically. If you paginate through you'll find edits you made elsewhere, e.g. here are your edits from before July: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://xtools.wmflabs.org/globalcontribs/Drbogdan/all//2019-07-01">https://xtools.wmflabs.org/globalcontribs/Drbogdan/all//2019-07-01</a>.</dd>
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-<dd>FYI there is still some database maintenance going on, so both GUC and XTools may experience occasional slowness. <span style="font-family:sans-serif">— <span style="font-weight:bold"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal" title="User:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal" title="User talk:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:green">talk</span></a></sup></span></span> 02:26, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-04T02:26:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T01:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T02:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-04T02:26:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T01:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth?target="><span data-mw-comment-start="c|BD2412|2019-07-04T01:40:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T00:52:00.000Z"></span>This tool</a> will also give you your total edit count by wiki. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BD2412" title="User:BD2412"><span style="background:gold"><i><b>bd2412</b></i></span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:BD2412" title="User talk:BD2412"><b>T</b></a> 01:40, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|BD2412|2019-07-04T01:40:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T00:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|NicoScribe|2019-07-04T21:59:00.000Z|BD2412|2019-07-04T01:40:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T01:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;BD2412&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|BD2412|2019-07-04T01:40:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T00:52:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|NicoScribe|2019-07-04T21:59:00.000Z|BD2412|2019-07-04T01:40:00.000Z"></span>Hello. <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a>:</span> the GUC tool was down at the beginning of June, then it has been repaired with <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T224930" class="extiw" title="phabricator:T224930">Phabricator:T224930</a>, with the limitation that you have seen. But in the Phabricator task, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Krinkle" title="User:Krinkle">Krinkle</a> said "<i>I'm gonna land the patch now, although it only works for recent changes right now. Not for "All contributions". [...] I'll fix that in a separate change, but closing this for now.</i>" so I am convinced that, after the next fix, GUC will show again the "total contributions count" (for all projects) and the "project contributions count" (for each project). Regards --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:NicoScribe" title="User:NicoScribe">NicoScribe</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoScribe" title="User talk:NicoScribe">talk</a>) 21:59, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|NicoScribe|2019-07-04T21:59:00.000Z|BD2412|2019-07-04T01:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T21:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;NicoScribe&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|NicoScribe|2019-07-04T21:59:00.000Z|BD2412|2019-07-04T01:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dd>FYI there is still some database maintenance going on, so both GUC and XTools may experience occasional slowness. <span style="font-family:sans-serif">— <span style="font-weight:bold"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal" title="User:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal" title="User talk:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:green">talk</span></a></sup></span></span> 02:26, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-04T02:26:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T01:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T02:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-04T02:26:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T01:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth?target="><span data-mw-comment-start="c|BD2412|2019-07-04T01:40:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T00:52:00.000Z"></span>This tool</a> will also give you your total edit count by wiki. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BD2412" title="User:BD2412"><span style="background:gold"><i><b>bd2412</b></i></span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:BD2412" title="User talk:BD2412"><b>T</b></a> 01:40, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|BD2412|2019-07-04T01:40:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T00:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|NicoScribe|2019-07-04T21:59:00.000Z|BD2412|2019-07-04T01:40:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T01:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;BD2412&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|BD2412|2019-07-04T01:40:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T00:52:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|NicoScribe|2019-07-04T21:59:00.000Z|BD2412|2019-07-04T01:40:00.000Z"></span>Hello. <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a>:</span> the GUC tool was down at the beginning of June, then it has been repaired with <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T224930" class="extiw" title="phabricator:T224930">Phabricator:T224930</a>, with the limitation that you have seen. But in the Phabricator task, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Krinkle" title="User:Krinkle">Krinkle</a> said "<i>I'm gonna land the patch now, although it only works for recent changes right now. Not for "All contributions". [...] I'll fix that in a separate change, but closing this for now.</i>" so I am convinced that, after the next fix, GUC will show again the "total contributions count" (for all projects) and the "project contributions count" (for each project). Regards --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:NicoScribe" title="User:NicoScribe">NicoScribe</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoScribe" title="User talk:NicoScribe">talk</a>) 21:59, 4 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|NicoScribe|2019-07-04T21:59:00.000Z|BD2412|2019-07-04T01:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-04T21:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;NicoScribe&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|NicoScribe|2019-07-04T21:59:00.000Z|BD2412|2019-07-04T01:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Krinkle|2019-07-05T17:57:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T00:52:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a>: The GUC tool has always limited the number of results from a single wiki to 20. This has been the case since the tool's creation by Luxo for Toolserver in 2014. However, there are two things that did change since 2014:
 <ol><li>In May 2018 (last year), I added the text "20 results per wiki" so as to reduce confusion for users not aware of this previously (<a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T167524" class="extiw" title="phab:T167524">phab:T167524</a>).</li>
 <li>In June 2019 (last month), I switched the default grouping logic from "per wiki" to "per day" (chronological globally, instead of per-wiki). This has not made any change to which results are shown, merely in which way they are grouped. Both grouping options are still available as before, and can be selected in the form, or by url. This was requested by several users (<a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193896" class="extiw" title="phab:T193896">phab:T193896</a>).</li></ol></dd>
 <dd>As always, if you are interested in seeing more results from a specific wiki, use the "contribs" link next to the user name to continue for more results (which links to Special:Contributions on the relevant wiki).</dd>
 <dd>Regarding the "global edit count" (as a number, not the list of actual edits), this can be better retrieved from <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Drbogdan" title="Special:CentralAuth/Drbogdan">Special:CentralAuth</a>.</dd>
-<dd>--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Krinkle" title="User:Krinkle">Krinkle</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Krinkle" title="User talk:Krinkle">talk</a>) 17:57, 5 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Krinkle|2019-07-05T17:57:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T00:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-05T18:51:00.000Z|Krinkle|2019-07-05T17:57:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-05T17:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Krinkle&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Krinkle|2019-07-05T17:57:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T00:52:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-05T18:51:00.000Z|Krinkle|2019-07-05T17:57:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Krinkle" title="User:Krinkle">Krinkle</a>:</span> Thank you for your reply - and comments - yes - using "<a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Drbogdan">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Drbogdan</a>", my total counts is currently 69,212 - however - for some reason - seems, until somewhat recently, my total counts with "<a class="external free" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/guc/?user=Drbogdan">https://tools.wmflabs.org/guc/?user=Drbogdan</a>" were almost always about <b>1000 counts</b> more (should be, with the earlier program-tool, about 70,200+/?) - an example => based on an <b>old copy</b> (June 2018) of my <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">User:Drbogdan</a> Wiki-Page - at => "<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20180622155402/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan">https://web.archive.org/web/20180622155402/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan</a>" - in the right-hand userboxes (down the middle of the page) - the total counts at that time were noted as <b>59,000</b> (using "<a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Drbogdan">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Drbogdan</a>") and <b>60,000</b> (using "<a class="external free" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/guc/?user=Drbogdan">https://tools.wmflabs.org/guc/?user=Drbogdan</a>") - perhaps I was misreading/misunderstanding something in some way? - or perhaps - something changed in the meanwhile? - in any case - Thanks again for your reply - and - Enjoy! :) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Drbogdan" title="User talk:Drbogdan">talk</a>) 18:51, 5 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-05T18:51:00.000Z|Krinkle|2019-07-05T17:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|NicoScribe|2019-07-07T17:39:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-05T18:51:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-05T18:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Drbogdan&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-05T18:51:00.000Z|Krinkle|2019-07-05T17:57:00.000Z"></span>
+<dd>--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Krinkle" title="User:Krinkle">Krinkle</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Krinkle" title="User talk:Krinkle">talk</a>) 17:57, 5 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Krinkle|2019-07-05T17:57:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T00:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-05T18:51:00.000Z|Krinkle|2019-07-05T17:57:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-05T17:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Krinkle&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Krinkle|2019-07-05T17:57:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-04T00:52:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-05T18:51:00.000Z|Krinkle|2019-07-05T17:57:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Krinkle" title="User:Krinkle">Krinkle</a>:</span> Thank you for your reply - and comments - yes - using "<a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Drbogdan">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Drbogdan</a>", my total counts is currently 69,212 - however - for some reason - seems, until somewhat recently, my total counts with "<a class="external free" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/guc/?user=Drbogdan">https://tools.wmflabs.org/guc/?user=Drbogdan</a>" were almost always about <b>1000 counts</b> more (should be, with the earlier program-tool, about 70,200+/?) - an example => based on an <b>old copy</b> (June 2018) of my <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">User:Drbogdan</a> Wiki-Page - at => "<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20180622155402/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan">https://web.archive.org/web/20180622155402/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan</a>" - in the right-hand userboxes (down the middle of the page) - the total counts at that time were noted as <b>59,000</b> (using "<a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Drbogdan">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Drbogdan</a>") and <b>60,000</b> (using "<a class="external free" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/guc/?user=Drbogdan">https://tools.wmflabs.org/guc/?user=Drbogdan</a>") - perhaps I was misreading/misunderstanding something in some way? - or perhaps - something changed in the meanwhile? - in any case - Thanks again for your reply - and - Enjoy! :) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Drbogdan" title="User talk:Drbogdan">talk</a>) 18:51, 5 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-05T18:51:00.000Z|Krinkle|2019-07-05T17:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|NicoScribe|2019-07-07T17:39:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-05T18:51:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-05T18:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Drbogdan&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-05T18:51:00.000Z|Krinkle|2019-07-05T17:57:00.000Z"></span>
 <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|NicoScribe|2019-07-07T17:39:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-05T18:51:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Krinkle" title="User:Krinkle">Krinkle</a>:</span>
 <ul><li>When writing my message above, I knew about "20 results shown per wiki". That's why I focused my message on something else: the "total contributions count" (for all projects) and the "project contributions count" (for each project). These 2 types of count are necessary (for me) to follow several long-term cross-wiki abusers. When you wrote "I'm gonna land the patch now, although it only works for recent changes right now. Not for "All contributions". [...] I'll fix that in a separate change, but closing this for now." in the Phabricator task, you were not talking about these 2 types of count?</li>
 <li>CentralAuth is great for many uses but is unable to show the "project contributions count" and the list of recent edits side to side (for each project). GUC was able to do that, before. Moreover CentralAuth does not work for IP users.</li></ul></dd>
@@ -778,18 +778,18 @@ Evolutionary history of life · ‎Timeline of the evolutionary ... · ‎Earlie
 <ul><li><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Drbogdan" title="Special:CentralAuth/Drbogdan">Special:CentralAuth/Drbogdan</a> says that you have 5 edits on it.wikipedia.org, but <a href="https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/Drbogdan" class="extiw" title="it:Speciale:Contributi/Drbogdan">it:Speciale:Contributi/Drbogdan</a> lists 4 edits → one of your edits has been deleted.</li>
 <li><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Drbogdan" title="Special:CentralAuth/Drbogdan">Special:CentralAuth/Drbogdan</a> says that you have 6 edits on en.wikibooks.org, but <a href="https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Drbogdan" class="extiw" title="b:Special:Contributions/Drbogdan">b:Special:Contributions/Drbogdan</a> lists 43 edits → 37 of your edits (done in other projects) have been imported here (and GUC shows your 20 recent edits, imported or not).</li>
 <li><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Drbogdan" title="Special:CentralAuth/Drbogdan">Special:CentralAuth/Drbogdan</a> says that you have 31 edits on de.wikipedia.org, but <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spezial:Beitr%C3%A4ge/Drbogdan" class="extiw" title="de:Spezial:Beiträge/Drbogdan">de:Spezial:Beiträge/Drbogdan</a> lists 987 edits → 956 of your edits (done in other projects) have been imported here (and GUC shows your 20 recent edits, imported or not).</li></ul></dd>
-<dd>37 + 956 = almost 1000: it explains the difference between your old GUC "total contributions count" and your CentralAuth total count. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:NicoScribe" title="User:NicoScribe">NicoScribe</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoScribe" title="User talk:NicoScribe">talk</a>) 17:39, 7 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|NicoScribe|2019-07-07T17:39:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-05T18:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-07T17:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;NicoScribe&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|NicoScribe|2019-07-07T17:39:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-05T18:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dd>37 + 956 = almost 1000: it explains the difference between your old GUC "total contributions count" and your CentralAuth total count. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:NicoScribe" title="User:NicoScribe">NicoScribe</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NicoScribe" title="User talk:NicoScribe">talk</a>) 17:39, 7 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|NicoScribe|2019-07-07T17:39:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-05T18:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-07T17:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;NicoScribe&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|NicoScribe|2019-07-07T17:39:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-05T18:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Small_tags_and_mobile_view" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Small_tags_and_mobile_view|2019-07-08T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Peter coxhead|2019-07-08T12:50:00.000Z|Small_tags_and_mobile_view&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Small_tags_and_mobile_view|2019-07-08T12:50:00.000Z"></span>Small tags and mobile view<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Small_tags_and_mobile_view|2019-07-08T12:50:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Peter coxhead|2019-07-08T12:50:00.000Z|Small_tags_and_mobile_view"></span>In the mobile view, <code>&lt;small>..&lt;/small></code> has no effect on the size of the displayed font. This appears to be implemented in the different style sheets used in mobile view. I assume this was a deliberate design decision – perhaps it was thought that making already potentially small font on a mobile device even smaller wasn't a good idea.
 </p><p>Up until February 2018, <code>{{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Small" title="Template:Small">small</a>}}</code> was a wrapper for <code>&lt;small>..&lt;/small></code>. It was then changed to be a wrapper for <code>&lt;span style="font-size:85%;">..&lt;/span></code>. This is obeyed in mobile view, so does generate smaller text.
-</p><p>If it was a deliberate decision not to display smaller text in mobile view, then the change to <code>{{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Small" title="Template:Small">small</a>}}</code> should be undone. Comments, please. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Peter_coxhead" title="User:Peter coxhead">Peter coxhead</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Peter_coxhead" title="User talk:Peter coxhead">talk</a>) 12:50, 8 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Peter coxhead|2019-07-08T12:50:00.000Z|Small_tags_and_mobile_view&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-08T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Peter coxhead&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Peter coxhead|2019-07-08T12:50:00.000Z|Small_tags_and_mobile_view"></span>
+</p><p>If it was a deliberate decision not to display smaller text in mobile view, then the change to <code>{{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Small" title="Template:Small">small</a>}}</code> should be undone. Comments, please. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Peter_coxhead" title="User:Peter coxhead">Peter coxhead</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Peter_coxhead" title="User talk:Peter coxhead">talk</a>) 12:50, 8 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Peter coxhead|2019-07-08T12:50:00.000Z|Small_tags_and_mobile_view&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-08T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Peter coxhead&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Peter coxhead|2019-07-08T12:50:00.000Z|Small_tags_and_mobile_view"></span>
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 <h2><span id="Finding_distinct_pages_edited_by_a_user.3F"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Finding_distinct_pages_edited_by_a_user?" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Finding_distinct_pages_edited_by_a_user?|2019-07-05T14:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-07-05T14:29:00.000Z|Finding_distinct_pages_edited_by_a_user?&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Finding_distinct_pages_edited_by_a_user?|2019-07-05T14:29:00.000Z"></span>Finding distinct pages edited by a user?<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Finding_distinct_pages_edited_by_a_user?|2019-07-05T14:29:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RoySmith|2019-07-05T14:29:00.000Z|Finding_distinct_pages_edited_by_a_user?"></span>When I'm looking to see what a user has been up to, looking at their contributions page is usually way to verbose, because it shows every edit.  What I usually want is to just see the distinct pages.  In pseudo-sql, I want something like, "select distinct page_name from contributions".  Is such a thing possible, short of using Quarry?
-</p><p>Even better, a way to do this for both contributions and deleted contributions and fold the results together into a single list of distinct pages.  -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> 14:29, 5 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-07-05T14:29:00.000Z|Finding_distinct_pages_edited_by_a_user?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DMacks|2019-07-05T14:38:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-07-05T14:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-08T17:21:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-07-05T14:29:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-05T14:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RoySmith&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RoySmith|2019-07-05T14:29:00.000Z|Finding_distinct_pages_edited_by_a_user?"></span>
+</p><p>Even better, a way to do this for both contributions and deleted contributions and fold the results together into a single list of distinct pages.  -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> 14:29, 5 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-07-05T14:29:00.000Z|Finding_distinct_pages_edited_by_a_user?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DMacks|2019-07-05T14:38:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-07-05T14:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-08T17:21:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-07-05T14:29:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-05T14:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RoySmith&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RoySmith|2019-07-05T14:29:00.000Z|Finding_distinct_pages_edited_by_a_user?"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DMacks|2019-07-05T14:38:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-07-05T14:29:00.000Z"></span>Sounds like the same idea as the "Group changes by page in recent changes and watchlist" option in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rc" title="Special:Preferences">Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rc</a>, but that does not seem to affect <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions" title="Special:Contributions">Special:Contributions</a> lists. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DMacks" title="User:DMacks">DMacks</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DMacks" title="User talk:DMacks">talk</a>) 14:38, 5 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DMacks|2019-07-05T14:38:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-07-05T14:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-05T14:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DMacks&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DMacks|2019-07-05T14:38:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-07-05T14:29:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-08T17:21:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-07-05T14:29:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a>:</span> It is not sorted chronologically, but maybe <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://xtools.wmflabs.org/topedits/en.wikipedia.org">XTools' Top Edits</a> would help? For example <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://xtools.wmflabs.org/topedits/en.wikipedia.org/RoySmith/0">[9]</a>. This intentionally does not reveal deleted contributions. <span style="font-family:sans-serif">— <span style="font-weight:bold"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal" title="User:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal" title="User talk:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:green">talk</span></a></sup></span></span> 17:21, 8 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-08T17:21:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-07-05T14:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-08T17:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-08T17:21:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-07-05T14:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DMacks|2019-07-05T14:38:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-07-05T14:29:00.000Z"></span>Sounds like the same idea as the "Group changes by page in recent changes and watchlist" option in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rc" title="Special:Preferences">Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rc</a>, but that does not seem to affect <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions" title="Special:Contributions">Special:Contributions</a> lists. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DMacks" title="User:DMacks">DMacks</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DMacks" title="User talk:DMacks">talk</a>) 14:38, 5 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DMacks|2019-07-05T14:38:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-07-05T14:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-05T14:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DMacks&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DMacks|2019-07-05T14:38:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-07-05T14:29:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-08T17:21:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-07-05T14:29:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a>:</span> It is not sorted chronologically, but maybe <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://xtools.wmflabs.org/topedits/en.wikipedia.org">XTools' Top Edits</a> would help? For example <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://xtools.wmflabs.org/topedits/en.wikipedia.org/RoySmith/0">[9]</a>. This intentionally does not reveal deleted contributions. <span style="font-family:sans-serif">— <span style="font-weight:bold"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal" title="User:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal" title="User talk:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:green">talk</span></a></sup></span></span> 17:21, 8 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-08T17:21:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-07-05T14:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-08T17:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-08T17:21:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-07-05T14:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
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 </p><h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Wanted_-_someone_to_adopt_a_discontinued_bot" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Wanted_-_someone_to_adopt_a_discontinued_bot|2019-07-03T17:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Tagishsimon|2019-07-03T17:33:00.000Z|Wanted_-_someone_to_adopt_a_discontinued_bot&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Wanted_-_someone_to_adopt_a_discontinued_bot|2019-07-03T17:33:00.000Z"></span>Wanted - someone to adopt a discontinued bot<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Wanted_-_someone_to_adopt_a_discontinued_bot|2019-07-03T17:33:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Tagishsimon|2019-07-03T17:33:00.000Z|Wanted_-_someone_to_adopt_a_discontinued_bot"></span>Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red</a> is looking for someone who'd be prepared to run a bot, the owner of which has recently retired. The bot is described at  <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Bot/Emijrpbot_6" class="extiw" title="d:Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot/Emijrpbot 6">d:Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot/Emijrpbot 6</a>, which points to <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/emijrp/wikidata/blob/master/curate.newpages.en.py">code here</a>. The function of the bot is to add new wikidata items for new en.wiki biographies and/or to add human and/or gender statements to existing wikidata items, based on articles found on <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:UnconnectedPages" title="Special:UnconnectedPages">Special:UnconnectedPages</a>. WiR bases all of its <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Metrics" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Metrics">metrics</a> (&amp; <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://whgi.wmflabs.org/gender-by-language.html">these</a>) on wikidata records for en.wiki articles, and since end April the project's stats have become increasingly hard to compile. We'd be more than grateful if someone would consider picking up this thankless task; thx. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tagishsimon" title="User:Tagishsimon">Tagishsimon</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tagishsimon" title="User talk:Tagishsimon">talk</a>) 17:33, 3 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Tagishsimon|2019-07-03T17:33:00.000Z|Wanted_-_someone_to_adopt_a_discontinued_bot&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-07-09T05:16:00.000Z|Tagishsimon|2019-07-03T17:33:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-03T17:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Tagishsimon&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Tagishsimon|2019-07-03T17:33:00.000Z|Wanted_-_someone_to_adopt_a_discontinued_bot"></span>
+<p><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Tagishsimon|2019-07-03T17:33:00.000Z|Wanted_-_someone_to_adopt_a_discontinued_bot"></span>Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red</a> is looking for someone who'd be prepared to run a bot, the owner of which has recently retired. The bot is described at  <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Bot/Emijrpbot_6" class="extiw" title="d:Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot/Emijrpbot 6">d:Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot/Emijrpbot 6</a>, which points to <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/emijrp/wikidata/blob/master/curate.newpages.en.py">code here</a>. The function of the bot is to add new wikidata items for new en.wiki biographies and/or to add human and/or gender statements to existing wikidata items, based on articles found on <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:UnconnectedPages" title="Special:UnconnectedPages">Special:UnconnectedPages</a>. WiR bases all of its <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Metrics" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Metrics">metrics</a> (&amp; <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://whgi.wmflabs.org/gender-by-language.html">these</a>) on wikidata records for en.wiki articles, and since end April the project's stats have become increasingly hard to compile. We'd be more than grateful if someone would consider picking up this thankless task; thx. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tagishsimon" title="User:Tagishsimon">Tagishsimon</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tagishsimon" title="User talk:Tagishsimon">talk</a>) 17:33, 3 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Tagishsimon|2019-07-03T17:33:00.000Z|Wanted_-_someone_to_adopt_a_discontinued_bot&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-07-09T05:16:00.000Z|Tagishsimon|2019-07-03T17:33:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-03T17:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Tagishsimon&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Tagishsimon|2019-07-03T17:33:00.000Z|Wanted_-_someone_to_adopt_a_discontinued_bot"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Headbomb|2019-07-09T05:16:00.000Z|Tagishsimon|2019-07-03T17:33:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tagishsimon" title="User:Tagishsimon">Tagishsimon</a>:</span> if you haven't already, try <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BOTREQ" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BOTREQ">WP:BOTREQ</a>  <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> 05:16, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-07-09T05:16:00.000Z|Tagishsimon|2019-07-03T17:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T05:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Headbomb&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Headbomb|2019-07-09T05:16:00.000Z|Tagishsimon|2019-07-03T17:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Headbomb|2019-07-09T05:16:00.000Z|Tagishsimon|2019-07-03T17:33:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tagishsimon" title="User:Tagishsimon">Tagishsimon</a>:</span> if you haven't already, try <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BOTREQ" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BOTREQ">WP:BOTREQ</a>  <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> 05:16, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-07-09T05:16:00.000Z|Tagishsimon|2019-07-03T17:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T05:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Headbomb&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Headbomb|2019-07-09T05:16:00.000Z|Tagishsimon|2019-07-03T17:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
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-<div role="note" style="margin: 1em;" class="resolved"><span style="border: 1px solid #aaa; background-color: #f9fcf9; margin-right: 0.5em; padding: 0.5em;"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-07-06T07:05:00.000Z|Wikipedia:Welcoming_committee/members"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/20px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/40px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Resolved</span> </div><p> --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 07:05, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-06T07:05:00.000Z|Wikipedia:Welcoming_committee\/members&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T07:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-07-06T07:05:00.000Z|Wikipedia:Welcoming_committee/members"></span>
+<div role="note" style="margin: 1em;" class="resolved"><span style="border: 1px solid #aaa; background-color: #f9fcf9; margin-right: 0.5em; padding: 0.5em;"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-07-06T07:05:00.000Z|Wikipedia:Welcoming_committee/members"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/20px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/40px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Resolved</span> </div><p> --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 07:05, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-06T07:05:00.000Z|Wikipedia:Welcoming_committee\/members&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T07:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-07-06T07:05:00.000Z|Wikipedia:Welcoming_committee/members"></span>
 </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T02:35:00.000Z|Wikipedia:Welcoming_committee/members"></span>I'm not sure what the best venue is to ask this question, but I was at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Welcoming_committee/members" title="Wikipedia:Welcoming committee/members">Wikipedia:Welcoming committee/members</a> and in <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AWelcoming_committee%2Fmembers&amp;type=revision&amp;diff=904996041&amp;oldid=904755311">these edits</a>, I purged a bunch of sock operators, some unregistered users, a bunch of redlinked users who hadn't edited in forever, and without looking at the rest of the list, I can only wonder how many people there are actually active. Is there any technical way to purge the list of duds? I also noticed there were tons of green-linked names, which typically represents users who have changed their handles.
-</p><p>Side question: I remember tweaking a setting that turned redirect links green (see above) but I can't remember where it was. I looked through my prefs and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cyphoidbomb/common.js" title="User:Cyphoidbomb/common.js">common.js</a> file and can't find it. Help? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cyphoidbomb" title="User:Cyphoidbomb">Cyphoidbomb</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cyphoidbomb" title="User talk:Cyphoidbomb">talk</a>) 02:35, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T02:35:00.000Z|Wikipedia:Welcoming_committee\/members&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-06T04:35:00.000Z|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T02:35:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T02:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Cyphoidbomb&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T02:35:00.000Z|Wikipedia:Welcoming_committee/members"></span>
+</p><p>Side question: I remember tweaking a setting that turned redirect links green (see above) but I can't remember where it was. I looked through my prefs and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cyphoidbomb/common.js" title="User:Cyphoidbomb/common.js">common.js</a> file and can't find it. Help? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cyphoidbomb" title="User:Cyphoidbomb">Cyphoidbomb</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cyphoidbomb" title="User talk:Cyphoidbomb">talk</a>) 02:35, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T02:35:00.000Z|Wikipedia:Welcoming_committee\/members&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-06T04:35:00.000Z|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T02:35:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T02:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Cyphoidbomb&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T02:35:00.000Z|Wikipedia:Welcoming_committee/members"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-07-06T04:35:00.000Z|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T02:35:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cyphoidbomb" title="User:Cyphoidbomb">Cyphoidbomb</a>:</span> Try this: <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anomie/linkclassifier" title="User:Anomie/linkclassifier">User:Anomie/linkclassifier</a>. To use only the redirect green color, copy <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anomie/linkclassifier.css" title="User:Anomie/linkclassifier.css">User:Anomie/linkclassifier.css</a> to your .css and comment out the ones you don't need. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 04:35, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-06T04:35:00.000Z|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T02:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MJL|2019-07-06T05:41:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-07-06T04:35:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T04:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-07-06T04:35:00.000Z|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T02:35:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MJL|2019-07-06T05:41:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-07-06T04:35:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cyphoidbomb" title="User:Cyphoidbomb">Cyphoidbomb</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK">QEDK</a>:</span> Better yet, install <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrandonXLF/GreenRedirects" title="User:BrandonXLF/GreenRedirects">User:BrandonXLF/GreenRedirects</a>. 10/10 user script for that. –<span style="font-family:CG Times"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MJL" title="User:MJL"><span style="color:black">MJL</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MJL" title="User talk:MJL">‐<b>Talk</b>‐</a><sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Connecticut" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Connecticut">☖</a></sup></span> 05:41, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MJL|2019-07-06T05:41:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-07-06T04:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T06:46:00.000Z|MJL|2019-07-06T05:41:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T05:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MJL&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MJL|2019-07-06T05:41:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-07-06T04:35:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T06:46:00.000Z|MJL|2019-07-06T05:41:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK">QEDK</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MJL" title="User:MJL">MJL</a>:</span> I'll gladly install whatever anybody strongly recommends. Since the redirects already show up as green for me, I was trying to figure out what I already clicked in my prefs/gadgets/whatever, so if anybody has any idea, please let me know. Also, I'm still curious about purging the Welcoming committee members page, although it's a low priority on account of it being an indiscriminate user list. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cyphoidbomb" title="User:Cyphoidbomb">Cyphoidbomb</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cyphoidbomb" title="User talk:Cyphoidbomb">talk</a>) 06:46, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T06:46:00.000Z|MJL|2019-07-06T05:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MJL|2019-07-06T06:51:00.000Z|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T06:46:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T06:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Cyphoidbomb&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T06:46:00.000Z|MJL|2019-07-06T05:41:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MJL|2019-07-06T06:51:00.000Z|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T06:46:00.000Z"></span>[Thank you for the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Notifications" title="Help:Notifications">ping</a>]</small> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cyphoidbomb" title="User:Cyphoidbomb">Cyphoidbomb</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/815235394" title="Special:Diff/815235394">you're a real treat</a>. lol –<span style="font-family:CG Times"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MJL" title="User:MJL"><span style="color:black">MJL</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MJL" title="User talk:MJL">‐<b>Talk</b>‐</a><sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Connecticut" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Connecticut">☖</a></sup></span> 06:51, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MJL|2019-07-06T06:51:00.000Z|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T06:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T06:57:00.000Z|MJL|2019-07-06T06:51:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T06:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MJL&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MJL|2019-07-06T06:51:00.000Z|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T06:46:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T06:57:00.000Z|MJL|2019-07-06T06:51:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MJL" title="User:MJL">MJL</a>:</span> You are awesome. I can't keep track of the various common files and most of my changes have been to common.js, so I am much appreciative for your sleuthing. I come to the tech board so I don't have to walk in circles aimlessly like an asshole. <abbr title="Smiling face" style="border-bottom: none;"><img alt="Face-smile.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/18px-Face-smile.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/27px-Face-smile.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/36px-Face-smile.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></abbr> Thanks, mate. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cyphoidbomb" title="User:Cyphoidbomb">Cyphoidbomb</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cyphoidbomb" title="User talk:Cyphoidbomb">talk</a>) 06:57, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T06:57:00.000Z|MJL|2019-07-06T06:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-06T07:05:00.000Z|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T06:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|MJL|2019-07-06T07:05:00.000Z|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T06:57:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T06:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Cyphoidbomb&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T06:57:00.000Z|MJL|2019-07-06T06:51:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-07-06T07:05:00.000Z|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T06:57:00.000Z"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r886049556"/><q class="inline-quote-talk">...so I don't have to walk in circles aimlessly like an asshole.</q> But that's all I do on Wikipedia! <abbr title="Awesome face" style="border-bottom: none;"><img alt="718smiley.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/718smiley.svg/18px-718smiley.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/718smiley.svg/27px-718smiley.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/718smiley.svg/36px-718smiley.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="733" data-file-height="733"/></abbr> Glad to hear you resolved it. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 07:05, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-06T07:05:00.000Z|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T06:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T07:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-07-06T07:05:00.000Z|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T06:57:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MJL|2019-07-06T07:05:00.000Z|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T06:57:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cyphoidbomb" title="User:Cyphoidbomb">Cyphoidbomb</a>:</span> It was nothing! It was just a quick check of <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/User:Cyphoidbomb/" title="Special:PrefixIndex/User:Cyphoidbomb/">your subpages</a>. As for the pruning, I'm afraid I don't know much that could be of service. Maybe a bot to clerk the list would be of service,  but I am not the one to program such machinations. Cheers! <abbr title="Smiling face" style="border-bottom: none;"><img alt="Face-smile.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/18px-Face-smile.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/27px-Face-smile.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/36px-Face-smile.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></abbr> <small>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Edit_conflict" title="Help:Edit conflict">edit conflict</a>)</small> –<span style="font-family:CG Times"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MJL" title="User:MJL"><span style="color:black">MJL</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MJL" title="User talk:MJL">‐<b>Talk</b>‐</a><sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Connecticut" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Connecticut">☖</a></sup></span> 07:05, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MJL|2019-07-06T07:05:00.000Z|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T06:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-09T21:02:00.000Z|MJL|2019-07-06T07:05:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T07:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MJL&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MJL|2019-07-06T07:05:00.000Z|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T06:57:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cyphoidbomb" title="User:Cyphoidbomb"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-09T21:02:00.000Z|MJL|2019-07-06T07:05:00.000Z"></span>User:Cyphoidbomb</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MJL" title="User:MJL">User:MJL</a>, you might consider using the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_X" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject X">Wikipedia:WikiProject X</a> tools, which come with a bot to archive inactive members.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Harej" title="User:Harej">User:Harej</a> can probably point you in the right direction if you get stuck.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Whatamidoing_(WMF)" title="User:Whatamidoing (WMF)">Whatamidoing (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Whatamidoing_(WMF)" title="User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF)">talk</a>) 21:02, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-09T21:02:00.000Z|MJL|2019-07-06T07:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T21:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Whatamidoing (WMF)&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-09T21:02:00.000Z|MJL|2019-07-06T07:05:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-07-06T04:35:00.000Z|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T02:35:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cyphoidbomb" title="User:Cyphoidbomb">Cyphoidbomb</a>:</span> Try this: <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anomie/linkclassifier" title="User:Anomie/linkclassifier">User:Anomie/linkclassifier</a>. To use only the redirect green color, copy <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anomie/linkclassifier.css" title="User:Anomie/linkclassifier.css">User:Anomie/linkclassifier.css</a> to your .css and comment out the ones you don't need. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 04:35, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-06T04:35:00.000Z|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T02:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MJL|2019-07-06T05:41:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-07-06T04:35:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T04:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-07-06T04:35:00.000Z|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T02:35:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MJL|2019-07-06T05:41:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-07-06T04:35:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cyphoidbomb" title="User:Cyphoidbomb">Cyphoidbomb</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK">QEDK</a>:</span> Better yet, install <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrandonXLF/GreenRedirects" title="User:BrandonXLF/GreenRedirects">User:BrandonXLF/GreenRedirects</a>. 10/10 user script for that. –<span style="font-family:CG Times"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MJL" title="User:MJL"><span style="color:black">MJL</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MJL" title="User talk:MJL">‐<b>Talk</b>‐</a><sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Connecticut" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Connecticut">☖</a></sup></span> 05:41, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MJL|2019-07-06T05:41:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-07-06T04:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T06:46:00.000Z|MJL|2019-07-06T05:41:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T05:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MJL&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MJL|2019-07-06T05:41:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-07-06T04:35:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T06:46:00.000Z|MJL|2019-07-06T05:41:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK">QEDK</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MJL" title="User:MJL">MJL</a>:</span> I'll gladly install whatever anybody strongly recommends. Since the redirects already show up as green for me, I was trying to figure out what I already clicked in my prefs/gadgets/whatever, so if anybody has any idea, please let me know. Also, I'm still curious about purging the Welcoming committee members page, although it's a low priority on account of it being an indiscriminate user list. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cyphoidbomb" title="User:Cyphoidbomb">Cyphoidbomb</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cyphoidbomb" title="User talk:Cyphoidbomb">talk</a>) 06:46, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T06:46:00.000Z|MJL|2019-07-06T05:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MJL|2019-07-06T06:51:00.000Z|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T06:46:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T06:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Cyphoidbomb&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T06:46:00.000Z|MJL|2019-07-06T05:41:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MJL|2019-07-06T06:51:00.000Z|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T06:46:00.000Z"></span>[Thank you for the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Notifications" title="Help:Notifications">ping</a>]</small> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cyphoidbomb" title="User:Cyphoidbomb">Cyphoidbomb</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/815235394" title="Special:Diff/815235394">you're a real treat</a>. lol –<span style="font-family:CG Times"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MJL" title="User:MJL"><span style="color:black">MJL</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MJL" title="User talk:MJL">‐<b>Talk</b>‐</a><sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Connecticut" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Connecticut">☖</a></sup></span> 06:51, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MJL|2019-07-06T06:51:00.000Z|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T06:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T06:57:00.000Z|MJL|2019-07-06T06:51:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T06:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MJL&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MJL|2019-07-06T06:51:00.000Z|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T06:46:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T06:57:00.000Z|MJL|2019-07-06T06:51:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MJL" title="User:MJL">MJL</a>:</span> You are awesome. I can't keep track of the various common files and most of my changes have been to common.js, so I am much appreciative for your sleuthing. I come to the tech board so I don't have to walk in circles aimlessly like an asshole. <abbr title="Smiling face" style="border-bottom: none;"><img alt="Face-smile.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/18px-Face-smile.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/27px-Face-smile.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/36px-Face-smile.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></abbr> Thanks, mate. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cyphoidbomb" title="User:Cyphoidbomb">Cyphoidbomb</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cyphoidbomb" title="User talk:Cyphoidbomb">talk</a>) 06:57, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T06:57:00.000Z|MJL|2019-07-06T06:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-06T07:05:00.000Z|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T06:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|MJL|2019-07-06T07:05:00.000Z|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T06:57:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T06:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Cyphoidbomb&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T06:57:00.000Z|MJL|2019-07-06T06:51:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-07-06T07:05:00.000Z|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T06:57:00.000Z"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r886049556"/><q class="inline-quote-talk">...so I don't have to walk in circles aimlessly like an asshole.</q> But that's all I do on Wikipedia! <abbr title="Awesome face" style="border-bottom: none;"><img alt="718smiley.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/718smiley.svg/18px-718smiley.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/718smiley.svg/27px-718smiley.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/718smiley.svg/36px-718smiley.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="733" data-file-height="733"/></abbr> Glad to hear you resolved it. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 07:05, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-06T07:05:00.000Z|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T06:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T07:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-07-06T07:05:00.000Z|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T06:57:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MJL|2019-07-06T07:05:00.000Z|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T06:57:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cyphoidbomb" title="User:Cyphoidbomb">Cyphoidbomb</a>:</span> It was nothing! It was just a quick check of <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/User:Cyphoidbomb/" title="Special:PrefixIndex/User:Cyphoidbomb/">your subpages</a>. As for the pruning, I'm afraid I don't know much that could be of service. Maybe a bot to clerk the list would be of service,  but I am not the one to program such machinations. Cheers! <abbr title="Smiling face" style="border-bottom: none;"><img alt="Face-smile.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/18px-Face-smile.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/27px-Face-smile.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/36px-Face-smile.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></abbr> <small>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Edit_conflict" title="Help:Edit conflict">edit conflict</a>)</small> –<span style="font-family:CG Times"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MJL" title="User:MJL"><span style="color:black">MJL</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MJL" title="User talk:MJL">‐<b>Talk</b>‐</a><sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Connecticut" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Connecticut">☖</a></sup></span> 07:05, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MJL|2019-07-06T07:05:00.000Z|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T06:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-09T21:02:00.000Z|MJL|2019-07-06T07:05:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T07:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MJL&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MJL|2019-07-06T07:05:00.000Z|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-06T06:57:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cyphoidbomb" title="User:Cyphoidbomb"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-09T21:02:00.000Z|MJL|2019-07-06T07:05:00.000Z"></span>User:Cyphoidbomb</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MJL" title="User:MJL">User:MJL</a>, you might consider using the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_X" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject X">Wikipedia:WikiProject X</a> tools, which come with a bot to archive inactive members.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Harej" title="User:Harej">User:Harej</a> can probably point you in the right direction if you get stuck.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Whatamidoing_(WMF)" title="User:Whatamidoing (WMF)">Whatamidoing (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Whatamidoing_(WMF)" title="User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF)">talk</a>) 21:02, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-09T21:02:00.000Z|MJL|2019-07-06T07:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T21:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Whatamidoing (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-09T21:02:00.000Z|MJL|2019-07-06T07:05:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="logout_slow_and_failed_due_to_http" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|logout_slow_and_failed_due_to_http|2019-07-06T20:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nick Levinson|2019-07-06T20:26:00.000Z|logout_slow_and_failed_due_to_http&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|logout_slow_and_failed_due_to_http|2019-07-06T20:26:00.000Z"></span>logout slow and failed due to http<span data-mw-comment-end="h|logout_slow_and_failed_due_to_http|2019-07-06T20:26:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nick Levinson|2019-07-06T20:26:00.000Z|logout_slow_and_failed_due_to_http"></span>I was trying to log out one day but the step was slow. It said, "You are being logged out, please wait". Then it said, "Cannot log out now: http". Eventually I was logged out. Why so long? Does it mean that I must have been using a slow network? If I close my browser while waiting, is that good enough? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nick_Levinson" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Nick Levinson">Nick Levinson</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nick_Levinson" title="User talk:Nick Levinson">talk</a>) 20:26, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nick Levinson|2019-07-06T20:26:00.000Z|logout_slow_and_failed_due_to_http&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-07-07T05:12:00.000Z|Nick Levinson|2019-07-06T20:26:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T20:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nick Levinson&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nick Levinson|2019-07-06T20:26:00.000Z|logout_slow_and_failed_due_to_http"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nick Levinson|2019-07-06T20:26:00.000Z|logout_slow_and_failed_due_to_http"></span>I was trying to log out one day but the step was slow. It said, "You are being logged out, please wait". Then it said, "Cannot log out now: http". Eventually I was logged out. Why so long? Does it mean that I must have been using a slow network? If I close my browser while waiting, is that good enough? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nick_Levinson" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Nick Levinson">Nick Levinson</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nick_Levinson" title="User talk:Nick Levinson">talk</a>) 20:26, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nick Levinson|2019-07-06T20:26:00.000Z|logout_slow_and_failed_due_to_http&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-07-07T05:12:00.000Z|Nick Levinson|2019-07-06T20:26:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T20:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nick Levinson&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nick Levinson|2019-07-06T20:26:00.000Z|logout_slow_and_failed_due_to_http"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ammarpad|2019-07-07T05:12:00.000Z|Nick Levinson|2019-07-06T20:26:00.000Z"></span>You say 'one day' and you were eventually logged out, that means the issue may no longer be there. Have you tried logging out again to see if the issue persists up to now?. – <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ammarpad" title="User:Ammarpad">Ammarpad</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ammarpad" title="User talk:Ammarpad">talk</a>) 05:12, 7 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-07-07T05:12:00.000Z|Nick Levinson|2019-07-06T20:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nick Levinson|2019-07-08T23:39:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-07-07T05:12:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-07T05:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ammarpad&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ammarpad|2019-07-07T05:12:00.000Z|Nick Levinson|2019-07-06T20:26:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ammarpad|2019-07-07T05:12:00.000Z|Nick Levinson|2019-07-06T20:26:00.000Z"></span>You say 'one day' and you were eventually logged out, that means the issue may no longer be there. Have you tried logging out again to see if the issue persists up to now?. – <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ammarpad" title="User:Ammarpad">Ammarpad</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ammarpad" title="User talk:Ammarpad">talk</a>) 05:12, 7 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-07-07T05:12:00.000Z|Nick Levinson|2019-07-06T20:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nick Levinson|2019-07-08T23:39:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-07-07T05:12:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-07T05:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ammarpad&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ammarpad|2019-07-07T05:12:00.000Z|Nick Levinson|2019-07-06T20:26:00.000Z"></span>
 <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nick Levinson|2019-07-08T23:39:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-07-07T05:12:00.000Z"></span>Preventing a logout is a security concern, thus I asked, even if it doesn't repeat for me. I agree the issue may be gone but it may not be, which is why I said "one day" and then posted. It did not recur on another day but that doesn't mean it was resolved. I think I had another well-known site open under my login during the same session; if so, I had no problem logging out from there. I assume the two strings I quoted (minus "http") can be searched for in MediaWiki software or the Wikipedia implementation to find what causes them to display, but I can't do those searches and I don't know how to test for recurrence of the problem, because if the cause was network slowness I don't know how to slow a network that I don't control and most networks I use are likely fairly robust.</dd>
 <dd>Does the problem come from network slowness or something else? If anything was done to resolve it, that's different and please tell us.</dd>
-<dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nick_Levinson" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Nick Levinson">Nick Levinson</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nick_Levinson" title="User talk:Nick Levinson">talk</a>) 23:39, 8 July 2019 (UTC) (Corrections: 23:46, 8 July 2019 (UTC))<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nick Levinson|2019-07-08T23:39:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-07-07T05:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Quiddity (WMF)|2019-07-09T21:52:00.000Z|Nick Levinson|2019-07-08T23:39:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-08T23:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nick Levinson&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nick Levinson|2019-07-08T23:39:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-07-07T05:12:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Quiddity (WMF)|2019-07-09T21:52:00.000Z|Nick Levinson|2019-07-08T23:39:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nick_Levinson" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Nick Levinson">Nick Levinson</a>:</span> I've filed a task at <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227621" class="extiw" title="phab:T227621">phab:T227621</a> for it to be looked at. Thanks for reporting. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Quiddity_(WMF)" title="User:Quiddity (WMF)">Quiddity (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Quiddity_(WMF)" title="User talk:Quiddity (WMF)">talk</a>) 21:52, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Quiddity (WMF)|2019-07-09T21:52:00.000Z|Nick Levinson|2019-07-08T23:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Quiddity (WMF)&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Quiddity (WMF)|2019-07-09T21:52:00.000Z|Nick Levinson|2019-07-08T23:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nick_Levinson" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Nick Levinson">Nick Levinson</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nick_Levinson" title="User talk:Nick Levinson">talk</a>) 23:39, 8 July 2019 (UTC) (Corrections: 23:46, 8 July 2019 (UTC))<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nick Levinson|2019-07-08T23:39:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-07-07T05:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Quiddity (WMF)|2019-07-09T21:52:00.000Z|Nick Levinson|2019-07-08T23:39:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-08T23:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nick Levinson&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nick Levinson|2019-07-08T23:39:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-07-07T05:12:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Quiddity (WMF)|2019-07-09T21:52:00.000Z|Nick Levinson|2019-07-08T23:39:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nick_Levinson" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Nick Levinson">Nick Levinson</a>:</span> I've filed a task at <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227621" class="extiw" title="phab:T227621">phab:T227621</a> for it to be looked at. Thanks for reporting. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Quiddity_(WMF)" title="User:Quiddity (WMF)">Quiddity (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Quiddity_(WMF)" title="User talk:Quiddity (WMF)">talk</a>) 21:52, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Quiddity (WMF)|2019-07-09T21:52:00.000Z|Nick Levinson|2019-07-08T23:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Quiddity (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Quiddity (WMF)|2019-07-09T21:52:00.000Z|Nick Levinson|2019-07-08T23:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Timrollpickering|2019-07-09T14:24:00.000Z|Null_edit_needed"></span>Can someone with the right permissions null edit the fully locked page <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:NQ/nqup.css" title="User:NQ/nqup.css">User:NQ/nqup.css</a> (the user hasn't edited for 2 &amp; 1/2 years) so as to clear the redirect <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Potentially_illegible_userboxes&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Potentially illegible userboxes (page does not exist)">Category:Potentially illegible userboxes</a>? This one is causing strange errors for the redirect bot. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Timrollpickering" title="User:Timrollpickering">Timrollpickering</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Timrollpickering" title="User talk:Timrollpickering">Talk</a>) 14:24, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Timrollpickering|2019-07-09T14:24:00.000Z|Null_edit_needed&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T14:53:00.000Z|Timrollpickering|2019-07-09T14:24:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T14:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Timrollpickering&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Timrollpickering|2019-07-09T14:24:00.000Z|Null_edit_needed"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Timrollpickering|2019-07-09T14:24:00.000Z|Null_edit_needed"></span>Can someone with the right permissions null edit the fully locked page <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:NQ/nqup.css" title="User:NQ/nqup.css">User:NQ/nqup.css</a> (the user hasn't edited for 2 &amp; 1/2 years) so as to clear the redirect <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Potentially_illegible_userboxes&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Potentially illegible userboxes (page does not exist)">Category:Potentially illegible userboxes</a>? This one is causing strange errors for the redirect bot. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Timrollpickering" title="User:Timrollpickering">Timrollpickering</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Timrollpickering" title="User talk:Timrollpickering">Talk</a>) 14:24, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Timrollpickering|2019-07-09T14:24:00.000Z|Null_edit_needed&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T14:53:00.000Z|Timrollpickering|2019-07-09T14:24:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T14:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Timrollpickering&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Timrollpickering|2019-07-09T14:24:00.000Z|Null_edit_needed"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T14:53:00.000Z|Timrollpickering|2019-07-09T14:24:00.000Z"></span>Wow that page is a mess, looking at it. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 14:53, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T14:53:00.000Z|Timrollpickering|2019-07-09T14:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T14:56:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T14:53:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T14:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T14:53:00.000Z|Timrollpickering|2019-07-09T14:24:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T14:56:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T14:53:00.000Z"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/27px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/36px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> <b>Done</b> <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Timrollpickering" title="User:Timrollpickering">Timrollpickering</a>:</span> should be good now, is using the 'fake css' permission hack to make a protected user page. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 14:56, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T14:56:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T14:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Timrollpickering|2019-07-09T15:03:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T14:56:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T14:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T14:56:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T14:53:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Timrollpickering|2019-07-09T15:03:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T14:56:00.000Z"></span>It's cleared - thanks. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Timrollpickering" title="User:Timrollpickering">Timrollpickering</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Timrollpickering" title="User talk:Timrollpickering">Talk</a>) 15:03, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Timrollpickering|2019-07-09T15:03:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T14:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-09T19:44:00.000Z|Timrollpickering|2019-07-09T15:03:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T15:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Timrollpickering&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Timrollpickering|2019-07-09T15:03:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T14:56:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-07-09T19:44:00.000Z|Timrollpickering|2019-07-09T15:03:00.000Z"></span>Rather than null edit it, it should be nullified - there isn't a single valid CSS rule in the whole thing. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 19:44, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-09T19:44:00.000Z|Timrollpickering|2019-07-09T15:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T22:16:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-09T19:44:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T19:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-07-09T19:44:00.000Z|Timrollpickering|2019-07-09T15:03:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T22:16:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-09T19:44:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64">Redrose64</a>:</span> it is a self-protection hack used by non-admins (c.f. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:User_pages#Protection_of_user_pages" title="Wikipedia:User pages">Wikipedia:User_pages#Protection_of_user_pages</a>). — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 22:16, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T22:16:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-09T19:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-09T22:34:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T22:16:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T22:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T22:16:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-09T19:44:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-07-09T22:34:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T22:16:00.000Z"></span>Why do we encourage this? --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 22:34, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-09T22:34:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T22:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T22:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-07-09T22:34:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T22:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T14:53:00.000Z|Timrollpickering|2019-07-09T14:24:00.000Z"></span>Wow that page is a mess, looking at it. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 14:53, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T14:53:00.000Z|Timrollpickering|2019-07-09T14:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T14:56:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T14:53:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T14:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T14:53:00.000Z|Timrollpickering|2019-07-09T14:24:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T14:56:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T14:53:00.000Z"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/27px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/36px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> <b>Done</b> <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Timrollpickering" title="User:Timrollpickering">Timrollpickering</a>:</span> should be good now, is using the 'fake css' permission hack to make a protected user page. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 14:56, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T14:56:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T14:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Timrollpickering|2019-07-09T15:03:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T14:56:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T14:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T14:56:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T14:53:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Timrollpickering|2019-07-09T15:03:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T14:56:00.000Z"></span>It's cleared - thanks. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Timrollpickering" title="User:Timrollpickering">Timrollpickering</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Timrollpickering" title="User talk:Timrollpickering">Talk</a>) 15:03, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Timrollpickering|2019-07-09T15:03:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T14:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-09T19:44:00.000Z|Timrollpickering|2019-07-09T15:03:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T15:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Timrollpickering&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Timrollpickering|2019-07-09T15:03:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T14:56:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-07-09T19:44:00.000Z|Timrollpickering|2019-07-09T15:03:00.000Z"></span>Rather than null edit it, it should be nullified - there isn't a single valid CSS rule in the whole thing. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 19:44, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-09T19:44:00.000Z|Timrollpickering|2019-07-09T15:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T22:16:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-09T19:44:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T19:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-07-09T19:44:00.000Z|Timrollpickering|2019-07-09T15:03:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T22:16:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-09T19:44:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64">Redrose64</a>:</span> it is a self-protection hack used by non-admins (c.f. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:User_pages#Protection_of_user_pages" title="Wikipedia:User pages">Wikipedia:User_pages#Protection_of_user_pages</a>). — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 22:16, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T22:16:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-09T19:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-09T22:34:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T22:16:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T22:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T22:16:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-09T19:44:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-07-09T22:34:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T22:16:00.000Z"></span>Why do we encourage this? --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 22:34, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-09T22:34:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T22:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T22:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-07-09T22:34:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-09T22:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Template_conditional_syntax_quesiton" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Template_conditional_syntax_quesiton|2019-07-09T20:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Cnbrb|2019-07-09T20:38:00.000Z|Template_conditional_syntax_quesiton&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Template_conditional_syntax_quesiton|2019-07-09T20:38:00.000Z"></span>Template conditional syntax quesiton<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Template_conditional_syntax_quesiton|2019-07-09T20:38:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Cnbrb|2019-07-09T20:38:00.000Z|Template_conditional_syntax_quesiton"></span>What is the correct syntax to set the <code>inline</code> parameter conditionally in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Overground_RDT" title="Template:Overground RDT">this template</a>? It is embedded in the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Overground" title="London Overground">London Overground</a> article thus: <code>{{Overground RDT|inline=yes}}</code>, which should be able to set the <code>inline</code> to 1 or true. The aim is to hide the top bar of the template when embedded in an infobox but not elsewhere.
 </p><p>I attempted this but it didn't work, so clearly I'm not getting the conditional syntax right:
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-<p>What's the correct way of doing it? Thanks. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cnbrb" title="User:Cnbrb">Cnbrb</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cnbrb#top" title="User talk:Cnbrb">talk</a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Cnbrb" title="Special:Contributions/Cnbrb">contribs</a>) </small> 20:38, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Cnbrb|2019-07-09T20:38:00.000Z|Template_conditional_syntax_quesiton&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-09T22:32:00.000Z|Cnbrb|2019-07-09T20:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Cnbrb|2019-07-10T00:26:00.000Z|Cnbrb|2019-07-09T20:38:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T20:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Cnbrb&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Cnbrb|2019-07-09T20:38:00.000Z|Template_conditional_syntax_quesiton"></span>
+<p>What's the correct way of doing it? Thanks. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cnbrb" title="User:Cnbrb">Cnbrb</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cnbrb#top" title="User talk:Cnbrb">talk</a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Cnbrb" title="Special:Contributions/Cnbrb">contribs</a>) </small> 20:38, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Cnbrb|2019-07-09T20:38:00.000Z|Template_conditional_syntax_quesiton&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-09T22:32:00.000Z|Cnbrb|2019-07-09T20:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Cnbrb|2019-07-10T00:26:00.000Z|Cnbrb|2019-07-09T20:38:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T20:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Cnbrb&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Cnbrb|2019-07-09T20:38:00.000Z|Template_conditional_syntax_quesiton"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-07-09T22:32:00.000Z|Cnbrb|2019-07-09T20:38:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cnbrb" title="User:Cnbrb">Cnbrb</a>:</span> You're overcomplicating it. Just do <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Overground_RDT&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=905561391">this</a></span> that way you can use <code>{{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Overground_RDT" title="Template:Overground RDT">Overground RDT</a>|inline=1}}</code>. BTW the documentation for <code>{{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Routemap" title="Template:Routemap">Routemap</a>}}</code> shows <code class="nowrap">|inline=1</code> but <code class="nowrap">|inline=yes</code> might work, I'm no Lua expert. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 22:32, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-09T22:32:00.000Z|Cnbrb|2019-07-09T20:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T22:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-07-09T22:32:00.000Z|Cnbrb|2019-07-09T20:38:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-07-09T22:32:00.000Z|Cnbrb|2019-07-09T20:38:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cnbrb" title="User:Cnbrb">Cnbrb</a>:</span> You're overcomplicating it. Just do <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Overground_RDT&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=905561391">this</a></span> that way you can use <code>{{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Overground_RDT" title="Template:Overground RDT">Overground RDT</a>|inline=1}}</code>. BTW the documentation for <code>{{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Routemap" title="Template:Routemap">Routemap</a>}}</code> shows <code class="nowrap">|inline=1</code> but <code class="nowrap">|inline=yes</code> might work, I'm no Lua expert. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 22:32, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-09T22:32:00.000Z|Cnbrb|2019-07-09T20:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T22:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-07-09T22:32:00.000Z|Cnbrb|2019-07-09T20:38:00.000Z"></span>
 <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Cnbrb|2019-07-10T00:26:00.000Z|Cnbrb|2019-07-09T20:38:00.000Z"></span>Ah! Someone has stepped in and fixed it. The answer was (of course) obvious:</dd></dl></dd></dl>
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-<dl><dd>Thank you! <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cnbrb" title="User:Cnbrb">Cnbrb</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cnbrb" title="User talk:Cnbrb">talk</a>) 00:26, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Cnbrb|2019-07-10T00:26:00.000Z|Cnbrb|2019-07-09T20:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T00:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Cnbrb&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Cnbrb|2019-07-10T00:26:00.000Z|Cnbrb|2019-07-09T20:38:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd>Thank you! <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cnbrb" title="User:Cnbrb">Cnbrb</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cnbrb" title="User talk:Cnbrb">talk</a>) 00:26, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Cnbrb|2019-07-10T00:26:00.000Z|Cnbrb|2019-07-09T20:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T00:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Cnbrb&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Cnbrb|2019-07-10T00:26:00.000Z|Cnbrb|2019-07-09T20:38:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Headerbar_doing_v-t-e_and_hide" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Headerbar_doing_v-t-e_and_hide|2019-07-09T20:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DePiep|2019-07-09T20:37:00.000Z|Headerbar_doing_v-t-e_and_hide&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Headerbar_doing_v-t-e_and_hide|2019-07-09T20:37:00.000Z"></span>Headerbar doing v-t-e and hide<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Headerbar_doing_v-t-e_and_hide|2019-07-09T20:37:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DePiep|2019-07-09T20:37:00.000Z|Headerbar_doing_v-t-e_and_hide"></span>{{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Navbar-collapsible" title="Template:Navbar-collapsible">Navbar-collapsible</a>}} is a good utility (showing both V-T-E links and the Hide/Show button). Now IIRC, there was a similar template for (wiki)table headers. Cannot find it any more, did anything bad happen? If someone could give me a hint/link, +appreciated. -<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DePiep" title="User:DePiep">DePiep</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DePiep" title="User talk:DePiep">talk</a>) 20:37, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DePiep|2019-07-09T20:37:00.000Z|Headerbar_doing_v-t-e_and_hide&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-07-09T23:10:00.000Z|DePiep|2019-07-09T20:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T00:35:00.000Z|DePiep|2019-07-09T20:37:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T20:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DePiep&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DePiep|2019-07-09T20:37:00.000Z|Headerbar_doing_v-t-e_and_hide"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DePiep|2019-07-09T20:37:00.000Z|Headerbar_doing_v-t-e_and_hide"></span>{{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Navbar-collapsible" title="Template:Navbar-collapsible">Navbar-collapsible</a>}} is a good utility (showing both V-T-E links and the Hide/Show button). Now IIRC, there was a similar template for (wiki)table headers. Cannot find it any more, did anything bad happen? If someone could give me a hint/link, +appreciated. -<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DePiep" title="User:DePiep">DePiep</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DePiep" title="User talk:DePiep">talk</a>) 20:37, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DePiep|2019-07-09T20:37:00.000Z|Headerbar_doing_v-t-e_and_hide&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-07-09T23:10:00.000Z|DePiep|2019-07-09T20:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T00:35:00.000Z|DePiep|2019-07-09T20:37:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T20:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DePiep&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DePiep|2019-07-09T20:37:00.000Z|Headerbar_doing_v-t-e_and_hide"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Headbomb|2019-07-09T23:10:00.000Z|DePiep|2019-07-09T20:37:00.000Z"></span>You recall incorrectly. No such template exist, or can exist.  <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> 23:10, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-07-09T23:10:00.000Z|DePiep|2019-07-09T20:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T23:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Headbomb&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Headbomb|2019-07-09T23:10:00.000Z|DePiep|2019-07-09T20:37:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T00:35:00.000Z|DePiep|2019-07-09T20:37:00.000Z"></span>You can make a collapsible table, but the v/t/e won't be able to reliably target just the table for editing (see <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux/sandbox76" title="User:Xaosflux/sandbox76">User:Xaosflux/sandbox76</a>). — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 00:35, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T00:35:00.000Z|DePiep|2019-07-09T20:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DePiep|2019-07-10T09:48:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T00:35:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T00:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T00:35:00.000Z|DePiep|2019-07-09T20:37:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Headbomb|2019-07-09T23:10:00.000Z|DePiep|2019-07-09T20:37:00.000Z"></span>You recall incorrectly. No such template exist, or can exist.  <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> 23:10, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-07-09T23:10:00.000Z|DePiep|2019-07-09T20:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T23:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Headbomb&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Headbomb|2019-07-09T23:10:00.000Z|DePiep|2019-07-09T20:37:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T00:35:00.000Z|DePiep|2019-07-09T20:37:00.000Z"></span>You can make a collapsible table, but the v/t/e won't be able to reliably target just the table for editing (see <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux/sandbox76" title="User:Xaosflux/sandbox76">User:Xaosflux/sandbox76</a>). — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 00:35, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T00:35:00.000Z|DePiep|2019-07-09T20:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DePiep|2019-07-10T09:48:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T00:35:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T00:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T00:35:00.000Z|DePiep|2019-07-09T20:37:00.000Z"></span>
 <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DePiep|2019-07-10T09:48:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T00:35:00.000Z"></span>Indeed, Xaosflux, but I will apply it in a templated table.</dd>
 <dd>Discovered how to make this work:
 <dl><dd><code>{| class="wikitable collapsible"</code> (adds the Hide/Show button, right)</dd>
 <dd><code>! colspan=4 | {{navbar-collapsible|1=Title text|2=Template:Foo}}</code> (adds the v-t-e links, left)</dd></dl></dd>
-<dd>-<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DePiep" title="User:DePiep">DePiep</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DePiep" title="User talk:DePiep">talk</a>) 09:48, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DePiep|2019-07-10T09:48:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T00:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T13:00:00.000Z|DePiep|2019-07-10T09:48:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T09:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DePiep&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DePiep|2019-07-10T09:48:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T00:35:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T13:00:00.000Z|DePiep|2019-07-10T09:48:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DePiep" title="User:DePiep">DePiep</a>:</span> do you have this sandboxed?  I'm assuming the edit link still goes to a "page" not somehow only edits "the table" right? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 13:00, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T13:00:00.000Z|DePiep|2019-07-10T09:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DePiep|2019-07-10T13:06:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T13:00:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T13:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T13:00:00.000Z|DePiep|2019-07-10T09:48:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DePiep|2019-07-10T13:06:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T13:00:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux">Xaosflux</a>:</span> I only use this in a table that is in a template page (see {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Decay_modes" title="Template:Decay modes">Decay modes</a>}} <span class="noprint plainlinks" title="Edit Template:Decay modes"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Decay_modes&amp;action=edit">edit</a></span>), that is what I meant to say with "in a templated table". I do not aim to use this in an in-article coded table; as you pointed out that won't work. -<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DePiep" title="User:DePiep">DePiep</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DePiep" title="User talk:DePiep">talk</a>) 13:06, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DePiep|2019-07-10T13:06:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T13:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T13:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DePiep&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DePiep|2019-07-10T13:06:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T13:00:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dd>-<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DePiep" title="User:DePiep">DePiep</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DePiep" title="User talk:DePiep">talk</a>) 09:48, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DePiep|2019-07-10T09:48:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T00:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T13:00:00.000Z|DePiep|2019-07-10T09:48:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T09:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DePiep&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DePiep|2019-07-10T09:48:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T00:35:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T13:00:00.000Z|DePiep|2019-07-10T09:48:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DePiep" title="User:DePiep">DePiep</a>:</span> do you have this sandboxed?  I'm assuming the edit link still goes to a "page" not somehow only edits "the table" right? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 13:00, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T13:00:00.000Z|DePiep|2019-07-10T09:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DePiep|2019-07-10T13:06:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T13:00:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T13:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T13:00:00.000Z|DePiep|2019-07-10T09:48:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DePiep|2019-07-10T13:06:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T13:00:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux">Xaosflux</a>:</span> I only use this in a table that is in a template page (see {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Decay_modes" title="Template:Decay modes">Decay modes</a>}} <span class="noprint plainlinks" title="Edit Template:Decay modes"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Decay_modes&amp;action=edit">edit</a></span>), that is what I meant to say with "in a templated table". I do not aim to use this in an in-article coded table; as you pointed out that won't work. -<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DePiep" title="User:DePiep">DePiep</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DePiep" title="User talk:DePiep">talk</a>) 13:06, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DePiep|2019-07-10T13:06:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T13:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T13:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DePiep&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DePiep|2019-07-10T13:06:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T13:00:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Épine|2019-07-09T21:50:00.000Z|Preloading_edit_summary?"></span>Hey! is it possible to preload an edit summary like we can do with page content? and if yes whats the code? thanks in advance.--▸ ‎<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%C3%89pine" title="User:Épine"><b style="color:purple;font-size:13px;display:inline-block;border:1px solid purple">épine</b></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%C3%89pine" title="User talk:Épine"><sub><b style="color:black;font-size:11px">talk</b><span style="color:purple">♬</span></sub></a> 21:50, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u00c9pine|2019-07-09T21:50:00.000Z|Preloading_edit_summary?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Quiddity|2019-07-09T21:56:00.000Z|\u00c9pine|2019-07-09T21:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|TheDJ|2019-07-10T13:36:00.000Z|\u00c9pine|2019-07-09T21:50:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T21:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u00c9pine&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Épine|2019-07-09T21:50:00.000Z|Preloading_edit_summary?"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Épine|2019-07-09T21:50:00.000Z|Preloading_edit_summary?"></span>Hey! is it possible to preload an edit summary like we can do with page content? and if yes whats the code? thanks in advance.--▸ ‎<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%C3%89pine" title="User:Épine"><b style="color:purple;font-size:13px;display:inline-block;border:1px solid purple">épine</b></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%C3%89pine" title="User talk:Épine"><sub><b style="color:black;font-size:11px">talk</b><span style="color:purple">♬</span></sub></a> 21:50, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u00c9pine|2019-07-09T21:50:00.000Z|Preloading_edit_summary?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Quiddity|2019-07-09T21:56:00.000Z|\u00c9pine|2019-07-09T21:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|TheDJ|2019-07-10T13:36:00.000Z|\u00c9pine|2019-07-09T21:50:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T21:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u00c9pine&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Épine|2019-07-09T21:50:00.000Z|Preloading_edit_summary?"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Quiddity|2019-07-09T21:56:00.000Z|Épine|2019-07-09T21:50:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%C3%89pine" title="User:Épine">Épine</a>:</span> <code>&amp;summary=</code> ! ;-) <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sandbox&amp;action=edit&amp;summary=foo%20bar">Example</a> link. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Quiddity" title="User:Quiddity">Quiddity</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Quiddity" title="User talk:Quiddity">talk</a>) 21:56, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Quiddity|2019-07-09T21:56:00.000Z|\u00c9pine|2019-07-09T21:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DePiep|2019-07-10T11:47:00.000Z|Quiddity|2019-07-09T21:56:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T21:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Quiddity&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Quiddity|2019-07-09T21:56:00.000Z|Épine|2019-07-09T21:50:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DePiep|2019-07-10T11:47:00.000Z|Quiddity|2019-07-09T21:56:00.000Z"></span>URL is <code>[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sandbox&amp;action=edit&amp;summary=foo%20bar Example]</code> -<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DePiep" title="User:DePiep">DePiep</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DePiep" title="User talk:DePiep">talk</a>) 11:47, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DePiep|2019-07-10T11:47:00.000Z|Quiddity|2019-07-09T21:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T11:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DePiep&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DePiep|2019-07-10T11:47:00.000Z|Quiddity|2019-07-09T21:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%C3%89pine" title="User:Épine"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|TheDJ|2019-07-10T13:36:00.000Z|Épine|2019-07-09T21:50:00.000Z"></span>Épine</a>, also see the documentation <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Creating_pages_with_preloaded_text" class="extiw" title="mw:Manual:Creating pages with preloaded text">mw:Manual:Creating pages with preloaded text</a>. —<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TheDJ" title="User:TheDJ">Th<span style="color: green">e</span>DJ</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheDJ" title="User talk:TheDJ">talk</a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/TheDJ" title="Special:Contributions/TheDJ">contribs</a>) 13:36, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|TheDJ|2019-07-10T13:36:00.000Z|\u00c9pine|2019-07-09T21:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T13:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;TheDJ&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|TheDJ|2019-07-10T13:36:00.000Z|Épine|2019-07-09T21:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Quiddity|2019-07-09T21:56:00.000Z|Épine|2019-07-09T21:50:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%C3%89pine" title="User:Épine">Épine</a>:</span> <code>&amp;summary=</code> ! ;-) <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sandbox&amp;action=edit&amp;summary=foo%20bar">Example</a> link. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Quiddity" title="User:Quiddity">Quiddity</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Quiddity" title="User talk:Quiddity">talk</a>) 21:56, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Quiddity|2019-07-09T21:56:00.000Z|\u00c9pine|2019-07-09T21:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DePiep|2019-07-10T11:47:00.000Z|Quiddity|2019-07-09T21:56:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T21:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Quiddity&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Quiddity|2019-07-09T21:56:00.000Z|Épine|2019-07-09T21:50:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DePiep|2019-07-10T11:47:00.000Z|Quiddity|2019-07-09T21:56:00.000Z"></span>URL is <code>[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sandbox&amp;action=edit&amp;summary=foo%20bar Example]</code> -<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DePiep" title="User:DePiep">DePiep</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DePiep" title="User talk:DePiep">talk</a>) 11:47, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DePiep|2019-07-10T11:47:00.000Z|Quiddity|2019-07-09T21:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T11:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DePiep&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DePiep|2019-07-10T11:47:00.000Z|Quiddity|2019-07-09T21:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%C3%89pine" title="User:Épine"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|TheDJ|2019-07-10T13:36:00.000Z|Épine|2019-07-09T21:50:00.000Z"></span>Épine</a>, also see the documentation <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Creating_pages_with_preloaded_text" class="extiw" title="mw:Manual:Creating pages with preloaded text">mw:Manual:Creating pages with preloaded text</a>. —<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TheDJ" title="User:TheDJ">Th<span style="color: green">e</span>DJ</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheDJ" title="User talk:TheDJ">talk</a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/TheDJ" title="Special:Contributions/TheDJ">contribs</a>) 13:36, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|TheDJ|2019-07-10T13:36:00.000Z|\u00c9pine|2019-07-09T21:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T13:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;TheDJ&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|TheDJ|2019-07-10T13:36:00.000Z|Épine|2019-07-09T21:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Golbez|2019-07-10T14:25:00.000Z|Sorting_broken?"></span>Take a look at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Governors_of_Alabama" class="mw-redirect" title="List of Governors of Alabama">List of Governors of Alabama</a> - errors of "Script error: No such module "Date table sorting"." all over the place. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Golbez" title="User:Golbez">Golbez</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Golbez" title="User talk:Golbez">talk</a>) 14:25, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Golbez|2019-07-10T14:25:00.000Z|Sorting_broken?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Golbez|2019-07-10T14:26:00.000Z|Golbez|2019-07-10T14:25:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T14:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Golbez&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Golbez|2019-07-10T14:25:00.000Z|Sorting_broken?"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Golbez|2019-07-10T14:25:00.000Z|Sorting_broken?"></span>Take a look at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Governors_of_Alabama" class="mw-redirect" title="List of Governors of Alabama">List of Governors of Alabama</a> - errors of "Script error: No such module "Date table sorting"." all over the place. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Golbez" title="User:Golbez">Golbez</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Golbez" title="User talk:Golbez">talk</a>) 14:25, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Golbez|2019-07-10T14:25:00.000Z|Sorting_broken?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Golbez|2019-07-10T14:26:00.000Z|Golbez|2019-07-10T14:25:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T14:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Golbez&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Golbez|2019-07-10T14:25:00.000Z|Sorting_broken?"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Golbez|2019-07-10T14:26:00.000Z|Golbez|2019-07-10T14:25:00.000Z"></span>It's fixed now. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Golbez" title="User:Golbez">Golbez</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Golbez" title="User talk:Golbez">talk</a>) 14:26, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Golbez|2019-07-10T14:26:00.000Z|Golbez|2019-07-10T14:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T14:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Golbez&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Golbez|2019-07-10T14:26:00.000Z|Golbez|2019-07-10T14:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Golbez|2019-07-10T14:26:00.000Z|Golbez|2019-07-10T14:25:00.000Z"></span>It's fixed now. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Golbez" title="User:Golbez">Golbez</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Golbez" title="User talk:Golbez">talk</a>) 14:26, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Golbez|2019-07-10T14:26:00.000Z|Golbez|2019-07-10T14:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T14:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Golbez&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Golbez|2019-07-10T14:26:00.000Z|Golbez|2019-07-10T14:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
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 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Rrubix44|2019-07-07T12:17:00.000Z|Android_app_login_generic_error"></span>Screenshot: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://pasteboard.co/ImS2y8j.jpg">https://pasteboard.co/ImS2y8j.jpg</a>
 </p><p>hello,
 </p><p>I can successfully log into the web browser version of Wikipedia, but I cannot log into the Android app using the same credentials. I received a generic error that only states that an error has occurred.
 </p><p>I have also tried using the same automatic input of credentials from the same source and mechanism on the same device to control for my user error. Again, browser  version login works, app no :(
 </p><p>Any ideas gratefully received!
-</p><p>Thank you  <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Rrubix44&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Rrubix44 (page does not exist)">Rrubix44</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rrubix44&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Rrubix44 (page does not exist)">talk</a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Rrubix44" title="Special:Contributions/Rrubix44">contribs</a>) 12:17, 7 July 2019 (UTC)</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Rrubix44|2019-07-07T12:17:00.000Z|Android_app_login_generic_error&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Luk|2019-07-07T19:55:00.000Z|Rrubix44|2019-07-07T12:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Tsumikiria|2019-07-10T16:31:00.000Z|Rrubix44|2019-07-07T12:17:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-07T12:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Rrubix44&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Rrubix44|2019-07-07T12:17:00.000Z|Android_app_login_generic_error"></span> 
+</p><p>Thank you  <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Rrubix44&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Rrubix44 (page does not exist)">Rrubix44</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rrubix44&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Rrubix44 (page does not exist)">talk</a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Rrubix44" title="Special:Contributions/Rrubix44">contribs</a>) 12:17, 7 July 2019 (UTC)</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Rrubix44|2019-07-07T12:17:00.000Z|Android_app_login_generic_error&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Luk|2019-07-07T19:55:00.000Z|Rrubix44|2019-07-07T12:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Tsumikiria|2019-07-10T16:31:00.000Z|Rrubix44|2019-07-07T12:17:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-07T12:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Rrubix44&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Rrubix44|2019-07-07T12:17:00.000Z|Android_app_login_generic_error"></span> 
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Luk|2019-07-07T19:55:00.000Z|Rrubix44|2019-07-07T12:17:00.000Z"></span>Did you try uninstalling and reinstalling the app? There may be an issue with the app itself. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Luk" title="User:Luk"><span style="color:#002BB8;">Luk</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Luk" title="User talk:Luk"><span style="color:#BB33FF;">talk</span></a></sup> 19:55, 7 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Luk|2019-07-07T19:55:00.000Z|Rrubix44|2019-07-07T12:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-07T19:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Luk&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Luk|2019-07-07T19:55:00.000Z|Rrubix44|2019-07-07T12:17:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
-<ul><li><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Tsumikiria|2019-07-10T16:31:00.000Z|Rrubix44|2019-07-07T12:17:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Luk" title="User:Luk">Luk</a>:</span> The same issue bugs me to no end. I'm not even using an Unicode username, which has been an issue in the past. All that I could think of was that either my password - 32 character sequence of random ASCII characters - somehow triggered the bug, or that the Pie autofill API weren't accepted. I wasn't using VPN either. There is only a very slim chance I could log into the Android App without problem. Is there an phabricator on this? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tsumikiria" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Tsumikiria"><span style="color:HotPink;text-shadow:2px 2px 12px HotPink;">Tsu</span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tsumikiria" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Tsumikiria"><span style="color:Crimson;text-shadow:2px 2px 12px HotPink;">*miki*<i>⧸</i> </span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Tsumikiria" title="Special:Contributions/Tsumikiria">🌉</a> 16:31, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Tsumikiria|2019-07-10T16:31:00.000Z|Rrubix44|2019-07-07T12:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T16:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Tsumikiria&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Tsumikiria|2019-07-10T16:31:00.000Z|Rrubix44|2019-07-07T12:17:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Luk|2019-07-07T19:55:00.000Z|Rrubix44|2019-07-07T12:17:00.000Z"></span>Did you try uninstalling and reinstalling the app? There may be an issue with the app itself. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Luk" title="User:Luk"><span style="color:#002BB8;">Luk</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Luk" title="User talk:Luk"><span style="color:#BB33FF;">talk</span></a></sup> 19:55, 7 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Luk|2019-07-07T19:55:00.000Z|Rrubix44|2019-07-07T12:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-07T19:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Luk&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Luk|2019-07-07T19:55:00.000Z|Rrubix44|2019-07-07T12:17:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<ul><li><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Tsumikiria|2019-07-10T16:31:00.000Z|Rrubix44|2019-07-07T12:17:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Luk" title="User:Luk">Luk</a>:</span> The same issue bugs me to no end. I'm not even using an Unicode username, which has been an issue in the past. All that I could think of was that either my password - 32 character sequence of random ASCII characters - somehow triggered the bug, or that the Pie autofill API weren't accepted. I wasn't using VPN either. There is only a very slim chance I could log into the Android App without problem. Is there an phabricator on this? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tsumikiria" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Tsumikiria"><span style="color:HotPink;text-shadow:2px 2px 12px HotPink;">Tsu</span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tsumikiria" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Tsumikiria"><span style="color:Crimson;text-shadow:2px 2px 12px HotPink;">*miki*<i>⧸</i> </span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Tsumikiria" title="Special:Contributions/Tsumikiria">🌉</a> 16:31, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Tsumikiria|2019-07-10T16:31:00.000Z|Rrubix44|2019-07-07T12:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T16:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Tsumikiria&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Tsumikiria|2019-07-10T16:31:00.000Z|Rrubix44|2019-07-07T12:17:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="WHOIS_broken" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|WHOIS_broken|2019-07-10T21:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-07-10T21:26:00.000Z|WHOIS_broken&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|WHOIS_broken|2019-07-10T21:02:00.000Z"></span>WHOIS broken<span data-mw-comment-end="h|WHOIS_broken|2019-07-10T21:02:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-10T21:26:00.000Z|WHOIS_broken"></span>Whois returns either a blank page, or a 500 internal server error. Been going on for a few hours already. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 21:26, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-07-10T21:26:00.000Z|WHOIS_broken&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Maile66|2019-07-10T21:02:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-10T21:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Maile66|2019-07-10T23:26:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-10T21:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T22:08:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-10T21:26:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T21:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-10T21:26:00.000Z|WHOIS_broken"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-10T21:26:00.000Z|WHOIS_broken"></span>Whois returns either a blank page, or a 500 internal server error. Been going on for a few hours already. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 21:26, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-07-10T21:26:00.000Z|WHOIS_broken&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Maile66|2019-07-10T21:02:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-10T21:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Maile66|2019-07-10T23:26:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-10T21:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T22:08:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-10T21:26:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T21:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-10T21:26:00.000Z|WHOIS_broken"></span>
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-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Maile66|2019-07-10T21:02:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-10T21:26:00.000Z"></span>I just posted this in a section above, but moving it here. The last couple of days, I've been getting <b>500 - Internal Server Error</b> Here is one from WP:AIV I've tried multiple times just now <a class="external text" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/whois/gateway.py?lookup=true&amp;ip=2600%3A1700%3A81F1%3A51">1</a>. Here is one from a different IP <a class="external text" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/whois/gateway.py?lookup=true&amp;ip=75.111.203.5">2</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Maile66" title="User:Maile66">— Maile </a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Maile66" title="User talk:Maile66">talk</a>) 21:02, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Maile66|2019-07-10T21:02:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-10T21:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T21:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Maile66&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Maile66|2019-07-10T21:02:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-10T21:26:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
-<dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Maile66|2019-07-10T23:26:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-10T21:26:00.000Z"></span>Note</b>: This might not be isolated to Wikimedia or Tools.  I just got the identical error message at Find A Grave.  On second try, Find a Grave loaded.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Maile66" title="User:Maile66">— Maile </a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Maile66" title="User talk:Maile66">talk</a>) 23:26, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Maile66|2019-07-10T23:26:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-10T21:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T23:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Maile66&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Maile66|2019-07-10T23:26:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-10T21:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T22:08:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-10T21:26:00.000Z"></span>I asked about this at <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Whym#WHOIS_gateway_returning_500_internal_server_error" class="extiw" title="meta:User talk:Whym">meta:User talk:Whym#WHOIS gateway returning 500 internal server error</a>. <span style="font-family:sans-serif">— <span style="font-weight:bold"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal" title="User:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal" title="User talk:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:green">talk</span></a></sup></span></span> 22:08, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T22:08:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-10T21:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T22:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T22:08:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-10T21:26:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Maile66|2019-07-10T21:02:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-10T21:26:00.000Z"></span>I just posted this in a section above, but moving it here. The last couple of days, I've been getting <b>500 - Internal Server Error</b> Here is one from WP:AIV I've tried multiple times just now <a class="external text" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/whois/gateway.py?lookup=true&amp;ip=2600%3A1700%3A81F1%3A51">1</a>. Here is one from a different IP <a class="external text" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/whois/gateway.py?lookup=true&amp;ip=75.111.203.5">2</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Maile66" title="User:Maile66">— Maile </a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Maile66" title="User talk:Maile66">talk</a>) 21:02, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Maile66|2019-07-10T21:02:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-10T21:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T21:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Maile66&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Maile66|2019-07-10T21:02:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-10T21:26:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Maile66|2019-07-10T23:26:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-10T21:26:00.000Z"></span>Note</b>: This might not be isolated to Wikimedia or Tools.  I just got the identical error message at Find A Grave.  On second try, Find a Grave loaded.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Maile66" title="User:Maile66">— Maile </a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Maile66" title="User talk:Maile66">talk</a>) 23:26, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Maile66|2019-07-10T23:26:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-10T21:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T23:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Maile66&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Maile66|2019-07-10T23:26:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-10T21:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T22:08:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-10T21:26:00.000Z"></span>I asked about this at <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Whym#WHOIS_gateway_returning_500_internal_server_error" class="extiw" title="meta:User talk:Whym">meta:User talk:Whym#WHOIS gateway returning 500 internal server error</a>. <span style="font-family:sans-serif">— <span style="font-weight:bold"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal" title="User:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal" title="User talk:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:green">talk</span></a></sup></span></span> 22:08, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T22:08:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-10T21:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T22:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T22:08:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-10T21:26:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="XTools" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|XTools|2019-07-10T15:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|GiantSnowman|2019-07-10T15:27:00.000Z|XTools&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|XTools|2019-07-10T15:27:00.000Z"></span>XTools<span data-mw-comment-end="h|XTools|2019-07-10T15:27:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
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-<p>I use two XTools - <a class="external text" href="http://tools.wmflabs.org/supercount/index.php?user=GiantSnowman&amp;project=en.wikipedia">edit counter</a> and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://xtools.wmflabs.org/pages/en.wikipedia.org/GiantSnowman">article counter</a>, both of which have stopped working for me as I have over 350,000 edits. Any idea how this can be resolved? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GiantSnowman" title="User:GiantSnowman">Giant</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GiantSnowman" title="User talk:GiantSnowman">Snowman</a> 15:27, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GiantSnowman|2019-07-10T15:27:00.000Z|XTools&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T16:19:00.000Z|GiantSnowman|2019-07-10T15:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T15:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GiantSnowman&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GiantSnowman|2019-07-10T15:27:00.000Z|XTools"></span>
+<p>I use two XTools - <a class="external text" href="http://tools.wmflabs.org/supercount/index.php?user=GiantSnowman&amp;project=en.wikipedia">edit counter</a> and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://xtools.wmflabs.org/pages/en.wikipedia.org/GiantSnowman">article counter</a>, both of which have stopped working for me as I have over 350,000 edits. Any idea how this can be resolved? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GiantSnowman" title="User:GiantSnowman">Giant</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GiantSnowman" title="User talk:GiantSnowman">Snowman</a> 15:27, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GiantSnowman|2019-07-10T15:27:00.000Z|XTools&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T16:19:00.000Z|GiantSnowman|2019-07-10T15:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T15:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GiantSnowman&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GiantSnowman|2019-07-10T15:27:00.000Z|XTools"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T16:19:00.000Z|GiantSnowman|2019-07-10T15:27:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GiantSnowman" title="User:GiantSnowman">GiantSnowman</a>:</span> The limit is there to prevent long-running queries that likely wouldn't finish, and would unnecessarily slow down XTools for everyone else. I can try increasing it a little bit, but we have to have some sort of sane limit. <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T182182" class="extiw" title="phab:T182182">phab:T182182</a> is about analyzing the most recent 350,000 edits, but I suspect this wouldn't really help because in theory we'd still have to scan all of your contributions to get the most recent 350,000. The issue with Pages Created, specifically, is tracked at <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T207959" class="extiw" title="phab:T207959">phab:T207959</a>. One idea is to use the page creation log (<a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T221730" class="extiw" title="phab:T221730">phab:T221730</a>), which is fast, but it would only produce pages you created going back to June 2018.<p>It's a tough problem to solve. We have to balance satisfying the needs of our users, such as yourself, while protecting stability and preventing unrealistic queries from being ran. This is compounded by more general issues with the replica databases, such as the inability to estimate how slow queries will be (<a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188677" class="extiw" title="phab:T188677">phab:T188677</a>) and more recently, general slowness following recent schema changes (<a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T226050" class="extiw" title="phab:T226050">phab:T226050</a>). In the meantime, you could try using tools that don't have any limits (or the scalability problems that XTools has), such as <a class="external text" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/created.py">Sigma's Pages created tool</a>. Sorry for the inconvenience! <span style="font-family:sans-serif">— <span style="font-weight:bold"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal" title="User:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal" title="User talk:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:green">talk</span></a></sup></span></span> 16:19, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T16:19:00.000Z|GiantSnowman|2019-07-10T15:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T16:27:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T16:19:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T16:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T16:19:00.000Z|GiantSnowman|2019-07-10T15:27:00.000Z"></span>
-</p><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T16:27:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T16:19:00.000Z"></span>I have increased the edit count limit to 400,000. It seems right now, the replicas are going fairly fast. Both Pages Created and Edit Counter didn't time out for your account. I can't promise it will stay that way, though. As an FYI, you can make the Edit Counter go faster by asking only for the data you need, using the checkboxes at <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://xtools.wmflabs.org/ec">https://xtools.wmflabs.org/ec</a>. Best, <span style="font-family:sans-serif">— <span style="font-weight:bold"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal" title="User:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal" title="User talk:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:green">talk</span></a></sup></span></span> 16:27, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T16:27:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T16:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|GiantSnowman|2019-07-10T16:36:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T16:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|GiantSnowman|2019-07-11T08:23:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T16:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T16:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T16:27:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T16:19:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|GiantSnowman|2019-07-10T16:36:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T16:27:00.000Z"></span>Thanks! <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GiantSnowman" title="User:GiantSnowman">Giant</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GiantSnowman" title="User talk:GiantSnowman">Snowman</a> 16:36, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GiantSnowman|2019-07-10T16:36:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T16:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T16:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GiantSnowman&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GiantSnowman|2019-07-10T16:36:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T16:27:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|GiantSnowman|2019-07-11T08:23:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T16:27:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal" title="User:MusikAnimal">MusikAnimal</a>:</span> can you do an 'simple counter' for article creations, which just shows the number rather than a full list? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GiantSnowman" title="User:GiantSnowman">Giant</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GiantSnowman" title="User talk:GiantSnowman">Snowman</a> 08:23, 11 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GiantSnowman|2019-07-11T08:23:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T16:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-11T17:50:00.000Z|GiantSnowman|2019-07-11T08:23:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-11T08:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GiantSnowman&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GiantSnowman|2019-07-11T08:23:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T16:27:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-11T17:50:00.000Z|GiantSnowman|2019-07-11T08:23:00.000Z"></span>Good idea. I'll look into it! <span style="font-family:sans-serif">— <span style="font-weight:bold"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal" title="User:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal" title="User talk:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:green">talk</span></a></sup></span></span> 17:50, 11 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-11T17:50:00.000Z|GiantSnowman|2019-07-11T08:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-11T17:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-11T17:50:00.000Z|GiantSnowman|2019-07-11T08:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T16:19:00.000Z|GiantSnowman|2019-07-10T15:27:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GiantSnowman" title="User:GiantSnowman">GiantSnowman</a>:</span> The limit is there to prevent long-running queries that likely wouldn't finish, and would unnecessarily slow down XTools for everyone else. I can try increasing it a little bit, but we have to have some sort of sane limit. <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T182182" class="extiw" title="phab:T182182">phab:T182182</a> is about analyzing the most recent 350,000 edits, but I suspect this wouldn't really help because in theory we'd still have to scan all of your contributions to get the most recent 350,000. The issue with Pages Created, specifically, is tracked at <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T207959" class="extiw" title="phab:T207959">phab:T207959</a>. One idea is to use the page creation log (<a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T221730" class="extiw" title="phab:T221730">phab:T221730</a>), which is fast, but it would only produce pages you created going back to June 2018.<p>It's a tough problem to solve. We have to balance satisfying the needs of our users, such as yourself, while protecting stability and preventing unrealistic queries from being ran. This is compounded by more general issues with the replica databases, such as the inability to estimate how slow queries will be (<a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188677" class="extiw" title="phab:T188677">phab:T188677</a>) and more recently, general slowness following recent schema changes (<a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T226050" class="extiw" title="phab:T226050">phab:T226050</a>). In the meantime, you could try using tools that don't have any limits (or the scalability problems that XTools has), such as <a class="external text" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/created.py">Sigma's Pages created tool</a>. Sorry for the inconvenience! <span style="font-family:sans-serif">— <span style="font-weight:bold"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal" title="User:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal" title="User talk:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:green">talk</span></a></sup></span></span> 16:19, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T16:19:00.000Z|GiantSnowman|2019-07-10T15:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T16:27:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T16:19:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T16:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T16:19:00.000Z|GiantSnowman|2019-07-10T15:27:00.000Z"></span>
+</p><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T16:27:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T16:19:00.000Z"></span>I have increased the edit count limit to 400,000. It seems right now, the replicas are going fairly fast. Both Pages Created and Edit Counter didn't time out for your account. I can't promise it will stay that way, though. As an FYI, you can make the Edit Counter go faster by asking only for the data you need, using the checkboxes at <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://xtools.wmflabs.org/ec">https://xtools.wmflabs.org/ec</a>. Best, <span style="font-family:sans-serif">— <span style="font-weight:bold"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal" title="User:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal" title="User talk:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:green">talk</span></a></sup></span></span> 16:27, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T16:27:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T16:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|GiantSnowman|2019-07-10T16:36:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T16:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|GiantSnowman|2019-07-11T08:23:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T16:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T16:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T16:27:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T16:19:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|GiantSnowman|2019-07-10T16:36:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T16:27:00.000Z"></span>Thanks! <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GiantSnowman" title="User:GiantSnowman">Giant</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GiantSnowman" title="User talk:GiantSnowman">Snowman</a> 16:36, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GiantSnowman|2019-07-10T16:36:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T16:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T16:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GiantSnowman&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GiantSnowman|2019-07-10T16:36:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T16:27:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|GiantSnowman|2019-07-11T08:23:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T16:27:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal" title="User:MusikAnimal">MusikAnimal</a>:</span> can you do an 'simple counter' for article creations, which just shows the number rather than a full list? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GiantSnowman" title="User:GiantSnowman">Giant</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GiantSnowman" title="User talk:GiantSnowman">Snowman</a> 08:23, 11 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GiantSnowman|2019-07-11T08:23:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T16:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-11T17:50:00.000Z|GiantSnowman|2019-07-11T08:23:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-11T08:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GiantSnowman&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GiantSnowman|2019-07-11T08:23:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-07-10T16:27:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-11T17:50:00.000Z|GiantSnowman|2019-07-11T08:23:00.000Z"></span>Good idea. I'll look into it! <span style="font-family:sans-serif">— <span style="font-weight:bold"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal" title="User:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal" title="User talk:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:green">talk</span></a></sup></span></span> 17:50, 11 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-11T17:50:00.000Z|GiantSnowman|2019-07-11T08:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-11T17:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-11T17:50:00.000Z|GiantSnowman|2019-07-11T08:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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-<p>For talk page. See <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nicotine_marketing">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nicotine_marketing</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:QuackGuru&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:QuackGuru (page does not exist)"><b style="color: #e34234;">QuackGuru</b></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QuackGuru" title="User talk:QuackGuru"><span style="color: #B02200;">talk</span></a>) 03:00, 12 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QuackGuru|2019-07-12T03:00:00.000Z|Request_bot_for_auto_archiving&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-12T03:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QuackGuru&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QuackGuru|2019-07-12T03:00:00.000Z|Request_bot_for_auto_archiving"></span>
+<p>For talk page. See <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nicotine_marketing">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nicotine_marketing</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:QuackGuru&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:QuackGuru (page does not exist)"><b style="color: #e34234;">QuackGuru</b></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QuackGuru" title="User talk:QuackGuru"><span style="color: #B02200;">talk</span></a>) 03:00, 12 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QuackGuru|2019-07-12T03:00:00.000Z|Request_bot_for_auto_archiving&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-12T03:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QuackGuru&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QuackGuru|2019-07-12T03:00:00.000Z|Request_bot_for_auto_archiving"></span>
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 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Alerts_and_alarms" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Alerts_and_alarms|2019-07-10T22:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|BD2412|2019-07-10T22:52:00.000Z|Alerts_and_alarms&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Alerts_and_alarms|2019-07-10T22:52:00.000Z"></span>Alerts and alarms<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Alerts_and_alarms|2019-07-10T22:52:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
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-<p>Is there some facility within Wikipedia for me to receive a reminder when, for example, a block that I have made or a page protection that I have added has expired, or a deletion discussion that I have initiated has run its full time? Moreover, is there some facility within Wikipedia to create reminders generally? If not, can such a thing be created? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BD2412" title="User:BD2412"><span style="background:gold"><i><b>bd2412</b></i></span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:BD2412" title="User talk:BD2412"><b>T</b></a> 22:52, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|BD2412|2019-07-10T22:52:00.000Z|Alerts_and_alarms&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Elizium23|2019-07-10T23:06:00.000Z|BD2412|2019-07-10T22:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T23:12:00.000Z|BD2412|2019-07-10T22:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-12T05:49:00.000Z|BD2412|2019-07-10T22:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T22:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;BD2412&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|BD2412|2019-07-10T22:52:00.000Z|Alerts_and_alarms"></span>
+<p>Is there some facility within Wikipedia for me to receive a reminder when, for example, a block that I have made or a page protection that I have added has expired, or a deletion discussion that I have initiated has run its full time? Moreover, is there some facility within Wikipedia to create reminders generally? If not, can such a thing be created? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BD2412" title="User:BD2412"><span style="background:gold"><i><b>bd2412</b></i></span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:BD2412" title="User talk:BD2412"><b>T</b></a> 22:52, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|BD2412|2019-07-10T22:52:00.000Z|Alerts_and_alarms&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Elizium23|2019-07-10T23:06:00.000Z|BD2412|2019-07-10T22:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T23:12:00.000Z|BD2412|2019-07-10T22:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-12T05:49:00.000Z|BD2412|2019-07-10T22:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T22:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;BD2412&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|BD2412|2019-07-10T22:52:00.000Z|Alerts_and_alarms"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Elizium23|2019-07-10T23:06:00.000Z|BD2412|2019-07-10T22:52:00.000Z"></span>While this would be a godsend, e.g. for checking back on a talk page in 7 days or so, or allowing a 24-hour 3RR to expire, I am not sure it is MediaWiki's job to be tracking our reminders. That seems to present unnecessary load to the servers for something that individual editors would best be equipped to track locally. I have used Google Calendar and assorted alarm-clock apps to do this, so far. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Elizium23" title="User:Elizium23">Elizium23</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Elizium23" title="User talk:Elizium23">talk</a>) 23:06, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Elizium23|2019-07-10T23:06:00.000Z|BD2412|2019-07-10T22:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T23:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Elizium23&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Elizium23|2019-07-10T23:06:00.000Z|BD2412|2019-07-10T22:52:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T23:12:00.000Z|BD2412|2019-07-10T22:52:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BD2412" title="User:BD2412">BD2412</a>:</span> this may be incorporated in the existing feature request: <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88781" class="extiw" title="phab:T88781">phab:T88781</a>. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 23:12, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T23:12:00.000Z|BD2412|2019-07-10T22:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T23:13:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T23:12:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T23:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T23:12:00.000Z|BD2412|2019-07-10T22:52:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T23:13:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T23:12:00.000Z"></span>Note though, this is related to <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T2582" class="extiw" title="phab:T2582">phab:T2582</a> - which has been pending for 10 years. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 23:13, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T23:13:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T23:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|BD2412|2019-07-10T23:16:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T23:13:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T23:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T23:13:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T23:12:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|BD2412|2019-07-10T23:16:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T23:13:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Elizium23" title="User:Elizium23">Elizium23</a>:</span>, I don't know how big a server load this would necessarily represent. I already get all sorts of notices for things like being mentioned in a discussion or a link being made to a page I created. Obviously some system event is occurring when a block or a page protection expires, because the system knows to lift the block or unprotect the page. I suspect that implementing such a thing is much more a matter of prioritizing it than any effect on the servers. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BD2412" title="User:BD2412"><span style="background:gold"><i><b>bd2412</b></i></span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:BD2412" title="User talk:BD2412"><b>T</b></a> 23:16, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|BD2412|2019-07-10T23:16:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T23:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T23:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;BD2412&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|BD2412|2019-07-10T23:16:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T23:13:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-07-12T05:49:00.000Z|BD2412|2019-07-10T22:52:00.000Z"></span>A JS tool can be made to log certain temporary actions (and/or any kind of reminder you want) to an userspace subpage and serve you reminders based on that. Noting that, the JS datetime implementation is... almost nonsensical, at best. So, kudos to anyone who does. Alternatively, and this is easier, you can use Siri/Assistant, does seem like a better choice, but it'll mix your onwiki/offwiki life. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 05:49, 12 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-12T05:49:00.000Z|BD2412|2019-07-10T22:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-12T05:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-07-12T05:49:00.000Z|BD2412|2019-07-10T22:52:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Elizium23|2019-07-10T23:06:00.000Z|BD2412|2019-07-10T22:52:00.000Z"></span>While this would be a godsend, e.g. for checking back on a talk page in 7 days or so, or allowing a 24-hour 3RR to expire, I am not sure it is MediaWiki's job to be tracking our reminders. That seems to present unnecessary load to the servers for something that individual editors would best be equipped to track locally. I have used Google Calendar and assorted alarm-clock apps to do this, so far. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Elizium23" title="User:Elizium23">Elizium23</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Elizium23" title="User talk:Elizium23">talk</a>) 23:06, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Elizium23|2019-07-10T23:06:00.000Z|BD2412|2019-07-10T22:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T23:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Elizium23&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Elizium23|2019-07-10T23:06:00.000Z|BD2412|2019-07-10T22:52:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T23:12:00.000Z|BD2412|2019-07-10T22:52:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BD2412" title="User:BD2412">BD2412</a>:</span> this may be incorporated in the existing feature request: <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88781" class="extiw" title="phab:T88781">phab:T88781</a>. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 23:12, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T23:12:00.000Z|BD2412|2019-07-10T22:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T23:13:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T23:12:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T23:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T23:12:00.000Z|BD2412|2019-07-10T22:52:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T23:13:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T23:12:00.000Z"></span>Note though, this is related to <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T2582" class="extiw" title="phab:T2582">phab:T2582</a> - which has been pending for 10 years. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 23:13, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T23:13:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T23:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|BD2412|2019-07-10T23:16:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T23:13:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T23:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T23:13:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T23:12:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|BD2412|2019-07-10T23:16:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T23:13:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Elizium23" title="User:Elizium23">Elizium23</a>:</span>, I don't know how big a server load this would necessarily represent. I already get all sorts of notices for things like being mentioned in a discussion or a link being made to a page I created. Obviously some system event is occurring when a block or a page protection expires, because the system knows to lift the block or unprotect the page. I suspect that implementing such a thing is much more a matter of prioritizing it than any effect on the servers. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BD2412" title="User:BD2412"><span style="background:gold"><i><b>bd2412</b></i></span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:BD2412" title="User talk:BD2412"><b>T</b></a> 23:16, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|BD2412|2019-07-10T23:16:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T23:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T23:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;BD2412&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|BD2412|2019-07-10T23:16:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T23:13:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-07-12T05:49:00.000Z|BD2412|2019-07-10T22:52:00.000Z"></span>A JS tool can be made to log certain temporary actions (and/or any kind of reminder you want) to an userspace subpage and serve you reminders based on that. Noting that, the JS datetime implementation is... almost nonsensical, at best. So, kudos to anyone who does. Alternatively, and this is easier, you can use Siri/Assistant, does seem like a better choice, but it'll mix your onwiki/offwiki life. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 05:49, 12 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-12T05:49:00.000Z|BD2412|2019-07-10T22:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-12T05:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-07-12T05:49:00.000Z|BD2412|2019-07-10T22:52:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Steel1943|2019-07-11T21:48:00.000Z|JSON_error_on_Template:Infobox_book_series"></span>Not sure what's going on, but I can't even make a dummy edit to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_book_series" title="Template:Infobox book series">Template:Infobox book series</a> since it has a <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JSON" title="JSON">JSON</a> error somewhere. I want to make an improvement to the template, but can't due to the error. Can anyone help? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Steel1943" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Steel1943"><span style="color: #2F4F4F;"><i><b>Steel1943</b></i></span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Steel1943" title="User talk:Steel1943">talk</a>) 21:48, 11 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Steel1943|2019-07-11T21:48:00.000Z|JSON_error_on_Template:Infobox_book_series&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-11T22:28:00.000Z|Steel1943|2019-07-11T21:48:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-11T21:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Steel1943&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Steel1943|2019-07-11T21:48:00.000Z|JSON_error_on_Template:Infobox_book_series"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Steel1943|2019-07-11T21:48:00.000Z|JSON_error_on_Template:Infobox_book_series"></span>Not sure what's going on, but I can't even make a dummy edit to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_book_series" title="Template:Infobox book series">Template:Infobox book series</a> since it has a <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JSON" title="JSON">JSON</a> error somewhere. I want to make an improvement to the template, but can't due to the error. Can anyone help? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Steel1943" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Steel1943"><span style="color: #2F4F4F;"><i><b>Steel1943</b></i></span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Steel1943" title="User talk:Steel1943">talk</a>) 21:48, 11 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Steel1943|2019-07-11T21:48:00.000Z|JSON_error_on_Template:Infobox_book_series&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-11T22:28:00.000Z|Steel1943|2019-07-11T21:48:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-11T21:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Steel1943&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Steel1943|2019-07-11T21:48:00.000Z|JSON_error_on_Template:Infobox_book_series"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gonnym|2019-07-11T22:28:00.000Z|Steel1943|2019-07-11T21:48:00.000Z"></span>I think I fixed it. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) 22:28, 11 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-11T22:28:00.000Z|Steel1943|2019-07-11T21:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Steel1943|2019-07-12T01:42:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-11T22:28:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-11T22:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gonnym&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gonnym|2019-07-11T22:28:00.000Z|Steel1943|2019-07-11T21:48:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Steel1943|2019-07-12T01:42:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-11T22:28:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a>:</span> Yep, I can at least do dummy edits now, so it's probably good. Thanks! <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Steel1943" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Steel1943"><span style="color: #2F4F4F;"><i><b>Steel1943</b></i></span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Steel1943" title="User talk:Steel1943">talk</a>) 01:42, 12 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Steel1943|2019-07-12T01:42:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-11T22:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-12T06:47:00.000Z|Steel1943|2019-07-12T01:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-12T08:03:00.000Z|Steel1943|2019-07-12T01:42:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-12T01:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Steel1943&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Steel1943|2019-07-12T01:42:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-11T22:28:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gonnym|2019-07-12T06:47:00.000Z|Steel1943|2019-07-12T01:42:00.000Z"></span>I'm pretty sure there was some backend change sometimes not long ago, as I had a lot of templates I could edit without that error that one day started blocking me. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) 06:47, 12 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-12T06:47:00.000Z|Steel1943|2019-07-12T01:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-12T06:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gonnym&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gonnym|2019-07-12T06:47:00.000Z|Steel1943|2019-07-12T01:42:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-07-12T08:03:00.000Z|Steel1943|2019-07-12T01:42:00.000Z"></span>If you aren't used to JSON, you can use <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://jsonlint.com/">this site</a> to check for errors. Also useful in cases where you know JSON syntax but cannot find the error (lots of parameters, etc.) --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 08:03, 12 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-12T08:03:00.000Z|Steel1943|2019-07-12T01:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-12T08:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-07-12T08:03:00.000Z|Steel1943|2019-07-12T01:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gonnym|2019-07-11T22:28:00.000Z|Steel1943|2019-07-11T21:48:00.000Z"></span>I think I fixed it. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) 22:28, 11 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-11T22:28:00.000Z|Steel1943|2019-07-11T21:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Steel1943|2019-07-12T01:42:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-11T22:28:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-11T22:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gonnym&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gonnym|2019-07-11T22:28:00.000Z|Steel1943|2019-07-11T21:48:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Steel1943|2019-07-12T01:42:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-11T22:28:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a>:</span> Yep, I can at least do dummy edits now, so it's probably good. Thanks! <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Steel1943" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Steel1943"><span style="color: #2F4F4F;"><i><b>Steel1943</b></i></span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Steel1943" title="User talk:Steel1943">talk</a>) 01:42, 12 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Steel1943|2019-07-12T01:42:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-11T22:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-12T06:47:00.000Z|Steel1943|2019-07-12T01:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-12T08:03:00.000Z|Steel1943|2019-07-12T01:42:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-12T01:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Steel1943&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Steel1943|2019-07-12T01:42:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-11T22:28:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gonnym|2019-07-12T06:47:00.000Z|Steel1943|2019-07-12T01:42:00.000Z"></span>I'm pretty sure there was some backend change sometimes not long ago, as I had a lot of templates I could edit without that error that one day started blocking me. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) 06:47, 12 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-12T06:47:00.000Z|Steel1943|2019-07-12T01:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-12T06:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gonnym&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gonnym|2019-07-12T06:47:00.000Z|Steel1943|2019-07-12T01:42:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-07-12T08:03:00.000Z|Steel1943|2019-07-12T01:42:00.000Z"></span>If you aren't used to JSON, you can use <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://jsonlint.com/">this site</a> to check for errors. Also useful in cases where you know JSON syntax but cannot find the error (lots of parameters, etc.) --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 08:03, 12 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-12T08:03:00.000Z|Steel1943|2019-07-12T01:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-12T08:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-07-12T08:03:00.000Z|Steel1943|2019-07-12T01:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Extracting_the_ToC_list" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Extracting_the_ToC_list|2019-07-10T14:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-10T14:19:00.000Z|Extracting_the_ToC_list&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Extracting_the_ToC_list|2019-07-10T14:19:00.000Z"></span>Extracting the ToC list<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Extracting_the_ToC_list|2019-07-10T14:19:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gonnym|2019-07-10T14:19:00.000Z|Extracting_the_ToC_list"></span>Is there a way (via template or lua) to extract the ToC headers so they can be presented in a different style? What I mean by that is using a ToC style such as {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Horizontal_ToC" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Horizontal ToC">Horizontal ToC</a>}} but without the ridiculously awful need to manually write each header, and later update it if it's changed. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) 14:19, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-10T14:19:00.000Z|Extracting_the_ToC_list&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-12T09:01:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-10T14:19:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T14:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gonnym&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gonnym|2019-07-10T14:19:00.000Z|Extracting_the_ToC_list"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gonnym|2019-07-10T14:19:00.000Z|Extracting_the_ToC_list"></span>Is there a way (via template or lua) to extract the ToC headers so they can be presented in a different style? What I mean by that is using a ToC style such as {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Horizontal_ToC" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Horizontal ToC">Horizontal ToC</a>}} but without the ridiculously awful need to manually write each header, and later update it if it's changed. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) 14:19, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-10T14:19:00.000Z|Extracting_the_ToC_list&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-12T09:01:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-10T14:19:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T14:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gonnym&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gonnym|2019-07-10T14:19:00.000Z|Extracting_the_ToC_list"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-12T09:01:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-10T14:19:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a>:</span> {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Horizontal_ToC" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Horizontal ToC">Horizontal ToC</a>}} is a recent template. We already have {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Horizontal_TOC" title="Template:Horizontal TOC">Horizontal TOC</a>}}, mentioned at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Section#Horizontal_TOC" title="Help:Section">Help:Section#Horizontal TOC</a>. The names are confusingly similar. I have added a see also link <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Horizontal_ToC/doc&amp;diff=905910866&amp;oldid=876081639">[15]</a> but more should probably be done. <code>__TOC__</code> places the table of contents. It can be wrapped in styling like {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Horizontal_TOC" title="Template:Horizontal TOC">Horizontal TOC</a>}} does. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 09:01, 12 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-12T09:01:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-10T14:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-12T09:04:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-12T09:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-12T09:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-12T09:01:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-10T14:19:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gonnym|2019-07-12T09:04:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-12T09:01:00.000Z"></span>Yeah, I just found it by accident. There really is no reason to have the newer template. If a manual list of entries is somehow needed (and I really can't even see one valid reason why it would), that could added to the better template. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) 09:04, 12 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-12T09:04:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-12T09:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-12T09:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gonnym&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gonnym|2019-07-12T09:04:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-12T09:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-12T09:01:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-10T14:19:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a>:</span> {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Horizontal_ToC" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Horizontal ToC">Horizontal ToC</a>}} is a recent template. We already have {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Horizontal_TOC" title="Template:Horizontal TOC">Horizontal TOC</a>}}, mentioned at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Section#Horizontal_TOC" title="Help:Section">Help:Section#Horizontal TOC</a>. The names are confusingly similar. I have added a see also link <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Horizontal_ToC/doc&amp;diff=905910866&amp;oldid=876081639">[15]</a> but more should probably be done. <code>__TOC__</code> places the table of contents. It can be wrapped in styling like {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Horizontal_TOC" title="Template:Horizontal TOC">Horizontal TOC</a>}} does. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 09:01, 12 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-12T09:01:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-10T14:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-12T09:04:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-12T09:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-12T09:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-12T09:01:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-10T14:19:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gonnym|2019-07-12T09:04:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-12T09:01:00.000Z"></span>Yeah, I just found it by accident. There really is no reason to have the newer template. If a manual list of entries is somehow needed (and I really can't even see one valid reason why it would), that could added to the better template. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) 09:04, 12 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-12T09:04:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-12T09:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-12T09:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gonnym&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gonnym|2019-07-12T09:04:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-12T09:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|ImmortalWizard|2019-07-10T16:40:00.000Z|Minor_edits"></span>It's annoying that everytime one needs to check the "This is a minor edit" box. I would recommend making it the other way round and checking after making large edits instead. <span style="color:orange"><b>THE NEW</b></span> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ImmortalWizard" title="User:ImmortalWizard"><i><span style="color:#964B00">Immortal</span></i><b><span style="color:blue">Wizard</span></b></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ImmortalWizard" title="User talk:ImmortalWizard"><span style="color:green;">(chat)</span></a> 16:40, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ImmortalWizard|2019-07-10T16:40:00.000Z|Minor_edits&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-11T15:33:00.000Z|ImmortalWizard|2019-07-10T16:40:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T16:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ImmortalWizard&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ImmortalWizard|2019-07-10T16:40:00.000Z|Minor_edits"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|ImmortalWizard|2019-07-10T16:40:00.000Z|Minor_edits"></span>It's annoying that everytime one needs to check the "This is a minor edit" box. I would recommend making it the other way round and checking after making large edits instead. <span style="color:orange"><b>THE NEW</b></span> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ImmortalWizard" title="User:ImmortalWizard"><i><span style="color:#964B00">Immortal</span></i><b><span style="color:blue">Wizard</span></b></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ImmortalWizard" title="User talk:ImmortalWizard"><span style="color:green;">(chat)</span></a> 16:40, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ImmortalWizard|2019-07-10T16:40:00.000Z|Minor_edits&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-11T15:33:00.000Z|ImmortalWizard|2019-07-10T16:40:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T16:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ImmortalWizard&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ImmortalWizard|2019-07-10T16:40:00.000Z|Minor_edits"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-07-11T15:33:00.000Z|ImmortalWizard|2019-07-10T16:40:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ImmortalWizard" title="User:ImmortalWizard">ImmortalWizard</a>:</span> There was a user preference "Mark all edits minor by default". This was removed eight years ago following a discussion in which it was determined that the option was often misused. See <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help_talk:Minor_edit/Archive_1#Should_we_remove_the_Preference_setting_to_&quot;Mark_all_edits_minor_by_default&quot;_?" title="Help talk:Minor edit/Archive 1">Help talk:Minor edit/Archive 1#Should we remove the Preference setting to "Mark all edits minor by default" ?</a> and <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T26313" class="extiw" title="phab:T26313">phab:T26313</a>. On that matter, <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_international_cricket_centuries_by_Kane_Williamson&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=905674593">this edit</a></span>, which was the last one that you made before posting here, should not have been marked minor. Further information at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:MINOR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MINOR">WP:MINOR</a>. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 15:33, 11 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-11T15:33:00.000Z|ImmortalWizard|2019-07-10T16:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|ImmortalWizard|2019-07-12T16:50:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-11T15:33:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-11T15:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-07-11T15:33:00.000Z|ImmortalWizard|2019-07-10T16:40:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|ImmortalWizard|2019-07-12T16:50:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-11T15:33:00.000Z"></span>Thanks <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64">Redrose64</a>. I have now read the information page. <span style="color:orange"><b>THE NEW</b></span> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ImmortalWizard" title="User:ImmortalWizard"><i><span style="color:#964B00">Immortal</span></i><b><span style="color:blue">Wizard</span></b></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ImmortalWizard" title="User talk:ImmortalWizard"><span style="color:green;">(chat)</span></a> 16:50, 12 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ImmortalWizard|2019-07-12T16:50:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-11T15:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-12T16:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ImmortalWizard&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ImmortalWizard|2019-07-12T16:50:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-11T15:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-07-11T15:33:00.000Z|ImmortalWizard|2019-07-10T16:40:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ImmortalWizard" title="User:ImmortalWizard">ImmortalWizard</a>:</span> There was a user preference "Mark all edits minor by default". This was removed eight years ago following a discussion in which it was determined that the option was often misused. See <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help_talk:Minor_edit/Archive_1#Should_we_remove_the_Preference_setting_to_&quot;Mark_all_edits_minor_by_default&quot;_?" title="Help talk:Minor edit/Archive 1">Help talk:Minor edit/Archive 1#Should we remove the Preference setting to "Mark all edits minor by default" ?</a> and <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T26313" class="extiw" title="phab:T26313">phab:T26313</a>. On that matter, <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_international_cricket_centuries_by_Kane_Williamson&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=905674593">this edit</a></span>, which was the last one that you made before posting here, should not have been marked minor. Further information at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:MINOR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MINOR">WP:MINOR</a>. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 15:33, 11 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-11T15:33:00.000Z|ImmortalWizard|2019-07-10T16:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|ImmortalWizard|2019-07-12T16:50:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-11T15:33:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-11T15:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-07-11T15:33:00.000Z|ImmortalWizard|2019-07-10T16:40:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|ImmortalWizard|2019-07-12T16:50:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-11T15:33:00.000Z"></span>Thanks <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64">Redrose64</a>. I have now read the information page. <span style="color:orange"><b>THE NEW</b></span> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ImmortalWizard" title="User:ImmortalWizard"><i><span style="color:#964B00">Immortal</span></i><b><span style="color:blue">Wizard</span></b></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ImmortalWizard" title="User talk:ImmortalWizard"><span style="color:green;">(chat)</span></a> 16:50, 12 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ImmortalWizard|2019-07-12T16:50:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-11T15:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-12T16:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ImmortalWizard&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ImmortalWizard|2019-07-12T16:50:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-11T15:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Interwikilink" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Interwikilink|2019-07-12T17:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|GrahamHardy|2019-07-12T17:11:00.000Z|Interwikilink&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Interwikilink|2019-07-12T17:11:00.000Z"></span>Interwikilink<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Interwikilink|2019-07-12T17:11:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|GrahamHardy|2019-07-12T17:11:00.000Z|Interwikilink"></span>Hi, the interwiki link on article <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%C3%BAn_soltera" title="Aún soltera">Aún soltera</a> takes me to the Spanish article on <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Fleming" title="Ian Fleming">Ian Fleming</a> which does not seem correct...<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GrahamHardy" title="User:GrahamHardy">GrahamHardy</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GrahamHardy" title="User talk:GrahamHardy">talk</a>) 17:11, 12 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GrahamHardy|2019-07-12T17:11:00.000Z|Interwikilink&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DannyS712|2019-07-12T17:21:00.000Z|GrahamHardy|2019-07-12T17:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|John of Reading|2019-07-12T17:24:00.000Z|GrahamHardy|2019-07-12T17:11:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-12T17:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GrahamHardy&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GrahamHardy|2019-07-12T17:11:00.000Z|Interwikilink"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|GrahamHardy|2019-07-12T17:11:00.000Z|Interwikilink"></span>Hi, the interwiki link on article <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%C3%BAn_soltera" title="Aún soltera">Aún soltera</a> takes me to the Spanish article on <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Fleming" title="Ian Fleming">Ian Fleming</a> which does not seem correct...<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GrahamHardy" title="User:GrahamHardy">GrahamHardy</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GrahamHardy" title="User talk:GrahamHardy">talk</a>) 17:11, 12 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GrahamHardy|2019-07-12T17:11:00.000Z|Interwikilink&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DannyS712|2019-07-12T17:21:00.000Z|GrahamHardy|2019-07-12T17:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|John of Reading|2019-07-12T17:24:00.000Z|GrahamHardy|2019-07-12T17:11:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-12T17:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GrahamHardy&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GrahamHardy|2019-07-12T17:11:00.000Z|Interwikilink"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DannyS712|2019-07-12T17:21:00.000Z|GrahamHardy|2019-07-12T17:11:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GrahamHardy" title="User:GrahamHardy">GrahamHardy</a>:</span> it takes you to the main page of eswiki, and their TFA is Ian Fleming --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DannyS712" title="User:DannyS712">DannyS712</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DannyS712" title="User talk:DannyS712">talk</a>) 17:21, 12 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DannyS712|2019-07-12T17:21:00.000Z|GrahamHardy|2019-07-12T17:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-12T17:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DannyS712&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DannyS712|2019-07-12T17:21:00.000Z|GrahamHardy|2019-07-12T17:11:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|John of Reading|2019-07-12T17:24:00.000Z|GrahamHardy|2019-07-12T17:11:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GrahamHardy" title="User:GrahamHardy">GrahamHardy</a>:</span> Fixed it by removing the incorrect {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:SPATRAcite" title="Template:SPATRAcite">SPATRAcite</a>}}. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:John_of_Reading" title="User:John of Reading">John of Reading</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading" title="User talk:John of Reading">talk</a>) 17:24, 12 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|John of Reading|2019-07-12T17:24:00.000Z|GrahamHardy|2019-07-12T17:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-12T17:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;John of Reading&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|John of Reading|2019-07-12T17:24:00.000Z|GrahamHardy|2019-07-12T17:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DannyS712|2019-07-12T17:21:00.000Z|GrahamHardy|2019-07-12T17:11:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GrahamHardy" title="User:GrahamHardy">GrahamHardy</a>:</span> it takes you to the main page of eswiki, and their TFA is Ian Fleming --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DannyS712" title="User:DannyS712">DannyS712</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DannyS712" title="User talk:DannyS712">talk</a>) 17:21, 12 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DannyS712|2019-07-12T17:21:00.000Z|GrahamHardy|2019-07-12T17:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-12T17:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DannyS712&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DannyS712|2019-07-12T17:21:00.000Z|GrahamHardy|2019-07-12T17:11:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|John of Reading|2019-07-12T17:24:00.000Z|GrahamHardy|2019-07-12T17:11:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GrahamHardy" title="User:GrahamHardy">GrahamHardy</a>:</span> Fixed it by removing the incorrect {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:SPATRAcite" title="Template:SPATRAcite">SPATRAcite</a>}}. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:John_of_Reading" title="User:John of Reading">John of Reading</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading" title="User talk:John of Reading">talk</a>) 17:24, 12 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|John of Reading|2019-07-12T17:24:00.000Z|GrahamHardy|2019-07-12T17:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-12T17:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;John of Reading&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|John of Reading|2019-07-12T17:24:00.000Z|GrahamHardy|2019-07-12T17:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id="Some_users_think_that_youtube-dl_is_not_notable_enough_for_having_its_own_article_.21"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Some_users_think_that_youtube-dl_is_not_notable_enough_for_having_its_own_article_!" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Some_users_think_that_youtube-dl_is_not_notable_enough_for_having_its_own_articl|2019-07-12T11:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Voldemort|2019-07-12T11:49:00.000Z|Some_users_think_that_youtube-dl_is_not_notable_enough_for_having_its_own_articl&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Some_users_think_that_youtube-dl_is_not_notable_enough_for_having_its_own_articl|2019-07-12T11:49:00.000Z"></span>Some users think that <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Youtube-dl&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Youtube-dl (page does not exist)">youtube-dl</a> is not notable enough for having its own article !<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Some_users_think_that_youtube-dl_is_not_notable_enough_for_having_its_own_articl|2019-07-12T11:49:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Voldemort|2019-07-12T11:49:00.000Z|Some_users_think_that_youtube-dl_is_not_notable_enough_for_having_its_own_articl"></span>Can any user help to stop the speedy deletion request ? Thanks (<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl">https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl</a>) -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Voldemort" title="User:Voldemort">Voldemort</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Voldemort" title="User talk:Voldemort">talk</a>) 11:49, 12 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Voldemort|2019-07-12T11:49:00.000Z|Some_users_think_that_youtube-dl_is_not_notable_enough_for_having_its_own_articl&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|331dot|2019-07-12T11:51:00.000Z|Voldemort|2019-07-12T11:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|CAPTAIN MEDUSA|2019-07-12T11:52:00.000Z|Voldemort|2019-07-12T11:49:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-12T11:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Voldemort&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Voldemort|2019-07-12T11:49:00.000Z|Some_users_think_that_youtube-dl_is_not_notable_enough_for_having_its_own_articl"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Voldemort|2019-07-12T11:49:00.000Z|Some_users_think_that_youtube-dl_is_not_notable_enough_for_having_its_own_articl"></span>Can any user help to stop the speedy deletion request ? Thanks (<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl">https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl</a>) -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Voldemort" title="User:Voldemort">Voldemort</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Voldemort" title="User talk:Voldemort">talk</a>) 11:49, 12 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Voldemort|2019-07-12T11:49:00.000Z|Some_users_think_that_youtube-dl_is_not_notable_enough_for_having_its_own_articl&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|331dot|2019-07-12T11:51:00.000Z|Voldemort|2019-07-12T11:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|CAPTAIN MEDUSA|2019-07-12T11:52:00.000Z|Voldemort|2019-07-12T11:49:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-12T11:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Voldemort&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Voldemort|2019-07-12T11:49:00.000Z|Some_users_think_that_youtube-dl_is_not_notable_enough_for_having_its_own_articl"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|331dot|2019-07-12T11:51:00.000Z|Voldemort|2019-07-12T11:49:00.000Z"></span>This isn't the right forum for such a request; next time(it has already been deleted) try the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:HD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:HD">Help Desk</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) 11:51, 12 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|331dot|2019-07-12T11:51:00.000Z|Voldemort|2019-07-12T11:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-12T11:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;331dot&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|331dot|2019-07-12T11:51:00.000Z|Voldemort|2019-07-12T11:49:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Voldemort" title="User:Voldemort"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|CAPTAIN MEDUSA|2019-07-12T11:52:00.000Z|Voldemort|2019-07-12T11:49:00.000Z"></span>Voldemort</a>, this is not the place to ask these questions, please ask this question on <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse" title="Wikipedia:Teahouse">Teahouse</a>. ___<i><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CAPTAIN_MEDUSA" title="User:CAPTAIN MEDUSA"><em style="font-family:grafolitascript;color:#aa6ef4">CAPTAIN MEDUSA</em></a><small><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:CAPTAIN_MEDUSA" title="User talk:CAPTAIN MEDUSA"><b><em style="font-family:grafolitascript;color:#000000">talk</em></b></a></small></i> 11:52, 12 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|CAPTAIN MEDUSA|2019-07-12T11:52:00.000Z|Voldemort|2019-07-12T11:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Graeme Bartlett|2019-07-13T02:10:00.000Z|CAPTAIN MEDUSA|2019-07-12T11:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-12T11:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;CAPTAIN MEDUSA&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|CAPTAIN MEDUSA|2019-07-12T11:52:00.000Z|Voldemort|2019-07-12T11:49:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Graeme Bartlett|2019-07-13T02:10:00.000Z|CAPTAIN MEDUSA|2019-07-12T11:52:00.000Z"></span>There is a page at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Widefox/Youtube-dl" title="User:Widefox/Youtube-dl">User:widefox/Youtube-dl</a> if you want to help improve it to show <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GNG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GNG">WP:GNG</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Youtube-dl" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Youtube-dl">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Youtube-dl</a> was the last formal debate. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Graeme_Bartlett" title="User:Graeme Bartlett">Graeme Bartlett</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Graeme_Bartlett" title="User talk:Graeme Bartlett">talk</a>) 02:10, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Graeme Bartlett|2019-07-13T02:10:00.000Z|CAPTAIN MEDUSA|2019-07-12T11:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T02:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Graeme Bartlett&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Graeme Bartlett|2019-07-13T02:10:00.000Z|CAPTAIN MEDUSA|2019-07-12T11:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|331dot|2019-07-12T11:51:00.000Z|Voldemort|2019-07-12T11:49:00.000Z"></span>This isn't the right forum for such a request; next time(it has already been deleted) try the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:HD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:HD">Help Desk</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:331dot" title="User:331dot">331dot</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:331dot" title="User talk:331dot">talk</a>) 11:51, 12 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|331dot|2019-07-12T11:51:00.000Z|Voldemort|2019-07-12T11:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-12T11:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;331dot&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|331dot|2019-07-12T11:51:00.000Z|Voldemort|2019-07-12T11:49:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Voldemort" title="User:Voldemort"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|CAPTAIN MEDUSA|2019-07-12T11:52:00.000Z|Voldemort|2019-07-12T11:49:00.000Z"></span>Voldemort</a>, this is not the place to ask these questions, please ask this question on <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse" title="Wikipedia:Teahouse">Teahouse</a>. ___<i><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CAPTAIN_MEDUSA" title="User:CAPTAIN MEDUSA"><em style="font-family:grafolitascript;color:#aa6ef4">CAPTAIN MEDUSA</em></a><small><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:CAPTAIN_MEDUSA" title="User talk:CAPTAIN MEDUSA"><b><em style="font-family:grafolitascript;color:#000000">talk</em></b></a></small></i> 11:52, 12 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|CAPTAIN MEDUSA|2019-07-12T11:52:00.000Z|Voldemort|2019-07-12T11:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Graeme Bartlett|2019-07-13T02:10:00.000Z|CAPTAIN MEDUSA|2019-07-12T11:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-12T11:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;CAPTAIN MEDUSA&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|CAPTAIN MEDUSA|2019-07-12T11:52:00.000Z|Voldemort|2019-07-12T11:49:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Graeme Bartlett|2019-07-13T02:10:00.000Z|CAPTAIN MEDUSA|2019-07-12T11:52:00.000Z"></span>There is a page at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Widefox/Youtube-dl" title="User:Widefox/Youtube-dl">User:widefox/Youtube-dl</a> if you want to help improve it to show <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GNG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GNG">WP:GNG</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Youtube-dl" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Youtube-dl">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Youtube-dl</a> was the last formal debate. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Graeme_Bartlett" title="User:Graeme Bartlett">Graeme Bartlett</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Graeme_Bartlett" title="User talk:Graeme Bartlett">talk</a>) 02:10, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Graeme Bartlett|2019-07-13T02:10:00.000Z|CAPTAIN MEDUSA|2019-07-12T11:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T02:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Graeme Bartlett&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Graeme Bartlett|2019-07-13T02:10:00.000Z|CAPTAIN MEDUSA|2019-07-12T11:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Fake_edit_conflicts_when_I_edit_talk_pages" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Fake_edit_conflicts_when_I_edit_talk_pages|2019-07-02T16:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Doug Weller|2019-07-02T16:57:00.000Z|Fake_edit_conflicts_when_I_edit_talk_pages&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Fake_edit_conflicts_when_I_edit_talk_pages|2019-07-02T16:57:00.000Z"></span>Fake edit conflicts when I edit talk pages<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Fake_edit_conflicts_when_I_edit_talk_pages|2019-07-02T16:57:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Doug Weller|2019-07-02T16:57:00.000Z|Fake_edit_conflicts_when_I_edit_talk_pages"></span>Pretty much most of the time for several days. On my iPad and my Windows laptop. they aren't real as my edits still appear. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Doug_Weller" title="User:Doug Weller"><span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller" title="User talk:Doug Weller">talk</a> 16:57, 2 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Doug Weller|2019-07-02T16:57:00.000Z|Fake_edit_conflicts_when_I_edit_talk_pages&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-07-02T17:02:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-07-02T16:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Kvng|2019-07-12T15:44:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-07-02T16:57:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-02T16:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Doug Weller&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Doug Weller|2019-07-02T16:57:00.000Z|Fake_edit_conflicts_when_I_edit_talk_pages"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Doug Weller|2019-07-02T16:57:00.000Z|Fake_edit_conflicts_when_I_edit_talk_pages"></span>Pretty much most of the time for several days. On my iPad and my Windows laptop. they aren't real as my edits still appear. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Doug_Weller" title="User:Doug Weller"><span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller" title="User talk:Doug Weller">talk</a> 16:57, 2 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Doug Weller|2019-07-02T16:57:00.000Z|Fake_edit_conflicts_when_I_edit_talk_pages&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-07-02T17:02:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-07-02T16:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Kvng|2019-07-12T15:44:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-07-02T16:57:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-02T16:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Doug Weller&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Doug Weller|2019-07-02T16:57:00.000Z|Fake_edit_conflicts_when_I_edit_talk_pages"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-07-02T17:02:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-07-02T16:57:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Doug_Weller" title="User:Doug Weller">Doug Weller</a>:</span> didn’t you return back to edit form (in the browser) <i>after</i> saving an edit? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User:Incnis Mrsi">Incnis Mrsi</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User talk:Incnis Mrsi">talk</a>) 17:02, 2 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-07-02T17:02:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-07-02T16:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Doug Weller|2019-07-02T17:41:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-07-02T17:02:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-02T17:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Incnis Mrsi&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-07-02T17:02:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-07-02T16:57:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Doug Weller|2019-07-02T17:41:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-07-02T17:02:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Icnis_Mrsi&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Icnis Mrsi (page does not exist)">Icnis Mrsi</a>:</span> I'm not sure what you mean by edit form, but it's the nature of an edit conflict that you can't save. I can't save but my edit appears. Note that I just had a normal edit conflict with you and had to repost it in the upper text field as usual and save. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Doug_Weller" title="User:Doug Weller"><span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller" title="User talk:Doug Weller">talk</a> 17:41, 2 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Doug Weller|2019-07-02T17:41:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-07-02T17:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Doug Weller|2019-07-06T16:23:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-07-02T17:41:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-02T17:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Doug Weller&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Doug Weller|2019-07-02T17:41:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-07-02T17:02:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Doug Weller|2019-07-06T16:23:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-07-02T17:41:00.000Z"></span>I should fix my ping. <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User:Incnis Mrsi">Incnis Mrsi</a>:</span> thanks. It keeps happening, sometimes even on non-talk pages. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Doug_Weller" title="User:Doug Weller"><span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller" title="User talk:Doug Weller">talk</a> 16:23, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Doug Weller|2019-07-06T16:23:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-07-02T17:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|BD2412|2019-07-06T17:42:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-07-06T16:23:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T16:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Doug Weller&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Doug Weller|2019-07-06T16:23:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-07-02T17:41:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|BD2412|2019-07-06T17:42:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-07-06T16:23:00.000Z"></span>Are you double-clicking or double-tapping when you save? Sometimes the system can be confused into thinking that the save button has been hit twice. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BD2412" title="User:BD2412"><span style="background:gold"><i><b>bd2412</b></i></span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:BD2412" title="User talk:BD2412"><b>T</b></a> 17:42, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|BD2412|2019-07-06T17:42:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-07-06T16:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T17:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;BD2412&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|BD2412|2019-07-06T17:42:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-07-06T16:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Kvng|2019-07-12T15:44:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-07-02T16:57:00.000Z"></span>This has been happening to me too on Windows with Chrome browser. It is new behavior, but I also remember seeing it in the past. I can't see any pattern for when it will happen and when it won't. Last time I saw these behaviors, it quietly stopped happening on it's own. ~<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kvng" title="User:Kvng">Kvng</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng" title="User talk:Kvng">talk</a>) 15:44, 12 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Kvng|2019-07-12T15:44:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-07-02T16:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-12T15:57:00.000Z|Kvng|2019-07-12T15:44:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-12T15:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Kvng&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Kvng|2019-07-12T15:44:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-07-02T16:57:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gonnym|2019-07-12T15:57:00.000Z|Kvng|2019-07-12T15:44:00.000Z"></span>I had this for a few weeks, thinking it was maybe some server issue that would solve itself. It didn't. Before destroying my computer I reset my settings in the preferences and it solved itself. It must be a conflict with one of those, but I have no idea which one. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) 15:57, 12 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-12T15:57:00.000Z|Kvng|2019-07-12T15:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Kvng|2019-07-13T16:01:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-12T15:57:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-12T15:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gonnym&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gonnym|2019-07-12T15:57:00.000Z|Kvng|2019-07-12T15:44:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Kvng|2019-07-13T16:01:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-12T15:57:00.000Z"></span>I haven't changed my preferences since before this started. Maybe there's a dodgy setting in there but not one that I've made recently. ~<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kvng" title="User:Kvng">Kvng</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng" title="User talk:Kvng">talk</a>) 16:01, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Kvng|2019-07-13T16:01:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-12T15:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T16:17:00.000Z|Kvng|2019-07-13T16:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T16:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Kvng&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Kvng|2019-07-13T16:01:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-12T15:57:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T16:17:00.000Z|Kvng|2019-07-13T16:01:00.000Z"></span>I didn't either, but resetting it worked. You just have to bite the bullet if it annoys you as much as it did me. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) 16:17, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T16:17:00.000Z|Kvng|2019-07-13T16:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T16:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gonnym&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T16:17:00.000Z|Kvng|2019-07-13T16:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-07-02T17:02:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-07-02T16:57:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Doug_Weller" title="User:Doug Weller">Doug Weller</a>:</span> didn’t you return back to edit form (in the browser) <i>after</i> saving an edit? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User:Incnis Mrsi">Incnis Mrsi</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User talk:Incnis Mrsi">talk</a>) 17:02, 2 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-07-02T17:02:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-07-02T16:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Doug Weller|2019-07-02T17:41:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-07-02T17:02:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-02T17:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Incnis Mrsi&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-07-02T17:02:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-07-02T16:57:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Doug Weller|2019-07-02T17:41:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-07-02T17:02:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Icnis_Mrsi&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Icnis Mrsi (page does not exist)">Icnis Mrsi</a>:</span> I'm not sure what you mean by edit form, but it's the nature of an edit conflict that you can't save. I can't save but my edit appears. Note that I just had a normal edit conflict with you and had to repost it in the upper text field as usual and save. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Doug_Weller" title="User:Doug Weller"><span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller" title="User talk:Doug Weller">talk</a> 17:41, 2 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Doug Weller|2019-07-02T17:41:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-07-02T17:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Doug Weller|2019-07-06T16:23:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-07-02T17:41:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-02T17:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Doug Weller&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Doug Weller|2019-07-02T17:41:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-07-02T17:02:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Doug Weller|2019-07-06T16:23:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-07-02T17:41:00.000Z"></span>I should fix my ping. <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User:Incnis Mrsi">Incnis Mrsi</a>:</span> thanks. It keeps happening, sometimes even on non-talk pages. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Doug_Weller" title="User:Doug Weller"><span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller" title="User talk:Doug Weller">talk</a> 16:23, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Doug Weller|2019-07-06T16:23:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-07-02T17:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|BD2412|2019-07-06T17:42:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-07-06T16:23:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T16:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Doug Weller&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Doug Weller|2019-07-06T16:23:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-07-02T17:41:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|BD2412|2019-07-06T17:42:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-07-06T16:23:00.000Z"></span>Are you double-clicking or double-tapping when you save? Sometimes the system can be confused into thinking that the save button has been hit twice. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BD2412" title="User:BD2412"><span style="background:gold"><i><b>bd2412</b></i></span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:BD2412" title="User talk:BD2412"><b>T</b></a> 17:42, 6 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|BD2412|2019-07-06T17:42:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-07-06T16:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-06T17:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;BD2412&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|BD2412|2019-07-06T17:42:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-07-06T16:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Kvng|2019-07-12T15:44:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-07-02T16:57:00.000Z"></span>This has been happening to me too on Windows with Chrome browser. It is new behavior, but I also remember seeing it in the past. I can't see any pattern for when it will happen and when it won't. Last time I saw these behaviors, it quietly stopped happening on it's own. ~<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kvng" title="User:Kvng">Kvng</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng" title="User talk:Kvng">talk</a>) 15:44, 12 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Kvng|2019-07-12T15:44:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-07-02T16:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-12T15:57:00.000Z|Kvng|2019-07-12T15:44:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-12T15:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Kvng&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Kvng|2019-07-12T15:44:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-07-02T16:57:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gonnym|2019-07-12T15:57:00.000Z|Kvng|2019-07-12T15:44:00.000Z"></span>I had this for a few weeks, thinking it was maybe some server issue that would solve itself. It didn't. Before destroying my computer I reset my settings in the preferences and it solved itself. It must be a conflict with one of those, but I have no idea which one. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) 15:57, 12 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-12T15:57:00.000Z|Kvng|2019-07-12T15:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Kvng|2019-07-13T16:01:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-12T15:57:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-12T15:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gonnym&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gonnym|2019-07-12T15:57:00.000Z|Kvng|2019-07-12T15:44:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Kvng|2019-07-13T16:01:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-12T15:57:00.000Z"></span>I haven't changed my preferences since before this started. Maybe there's a dodgy setting in there but not one that I've made recently. ~<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kvng" title="User:Kvng">Kvng</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng" title="User talk:Kvng">talk</a>) 16:01, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Kvng|2019-07-13T16:01:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-12T15:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T16:17:00.000Z|Kvng|2019-07-13T16:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T16:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Kvng&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Kvng|2019-07-13T16:01:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-12T15:57:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T16:17:00.000Z|Kvng|2019-07-13T16:01:00.000Z"></span>I didn't either, but resetting it worked. You just have to bite the bullet if it annoys you as much as it did me. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) 16:17, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T16:17:00.000Z|Kvng|2019-07-13T16:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T16:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gonnym&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T16:17:00.000Z|Kvng|2019-07-13T16:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Goldenshimmer|2019-07-13T22:12:00.000Z|Old_revisions_of_image_missing,_but_not_deleted"></span>At <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dave_Carlascio_and_Family_Force_5.jpg" title="File:Dave Carlascio and Family Force 5.jpg">File:Dave_Carlascio_and_Family_Force_5.jpg</a>, some old revisions of the image give a 404 error message. Thumbnails of those revisions are still included by the HTML page, and it links to where the old revisions would have been. From the revision notes, it looks like they were non-free, so probably should be deleted, but, well, they <i>weren't</i> deleted.
 </p><p>By comparison, here is what old deleted revisions of a file look like: <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:City_of_Spokane_Seal.svg" title="File:City of Spokane Seal.svg">File:City_of_Spokane_Seal.svg</a> — "No thumbnail" note, and no broken links or images. So, the problem with Dave_Carlascio_and_Family_Force_5.jpg appears to be a software bug, disk corruption, or similar.
-</p><p>Could someone properly delete the old versions in this case, and investigate the cause of this to ensure other files (that shouldn't have been deleted) aren't corrupted, restoring the revisions from backup as needed? Thanks! —{{u|<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Goldenshimmer" title="User:Goldenshimmer">Goldenshimmer</a>}} (they/their)｜<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Goldenshimmer/T" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Goldenshimmer/T">Talk</a>｜<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Goldenshimmer/C" title="User:Goldenshimmer/C">Contributions</a> 22:12, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Goldenshimmer|2019-07-13T22:12:00.000Z|Old_revisions_of_image_missing,_but_not_deleted&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T22:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Goldenshimmer&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Goldenshimmer|2019-07-13T22:12:00.000Z|Old_revisions_of_image_missing,_but_not_deleted"></span>
+</p><p>Could someone properly delete the old versions in this case, and investigate the cause of this to ensure other files (that shouldn't have been deleted) aren't corrupted, restoring the revisions from backup as needed? Thanks! —{{u|<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Goldenshimmer" title="User:Goldenshimmer">Goldenshimmer</a>}} (they/their)｜<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Goldenshimmer/T" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Goldenshimmer/T">Talk</a>｜<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Goldenshimmer/C" title="User:Goldenshimmer/C">Contributions</a> 22:12, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Goldenshimmer|2019-07-13T22:12:00.000Z|Old_revisions_of_image_missing,_but_not_deleted&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T22:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Goldenshimmer&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Goldenshimmer|2019-07-13T22:12:00.000Z|Old_revisions_of_image_missing,_but_not_deleted"></span>
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 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="watchlist_inaccuracies_again" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|watchlist_inaccuracies_again|2019-07-13T22:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Joeyconnick|2019-07-13T22:50:00.000Z|watchlist_inaccuracies_again&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|watchlist_inaccuracies_again|2019-07-13T22:50:00.000Z"></span>watchlist inaccuracies again<span data-mw-comment-end="h|watchlist_inaccuracies_again|2019-07-13T22:50:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Joeyconnick|2019-07-13T22:50:00.000Z|watchlist_inaccuracies_again"></span>My watchlist is again showing pages and diffs I have already seen, even though I have it set to show only unseen changes. Bolding of these pages in the list is also inconsistent. Anyone know why this exceptionally fun behaviour has returned? —<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Joeyconnick" title="User:Joeyconnick">Joeyconnick</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Joeyconnick" title="User talk:Joeyconnick">talk</a>) 22:50, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Joeyconnick|2019-07-13T22:50:00.000Z|watchlist_inaccuracies_again&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T22:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Joeyconnick&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Joeyconnick|2019-07-13T22:50:00.000Z|watchlist_inaccuracies_again"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Joeyconnick|2019-07-13T22:50:00.000Z|watchlist_inaccuracies_again"></span>My watchlist is again showing pages and diffs I have already seen, even though I have it set to show only unseen changes. Bolding of these pages in the list is also inconsistent. Anyone know why this exceptionally fun behaviour has returned? —<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Joeyconnick" title="User:Joeyconnick">Joeyconnick</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Joeyconnick" title="User talk:Joeyconnick">talk</a>) 22:50, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Joeyconnick|2019-07-13T22:50:00.000Z|watchlist_inaccuracies_again&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T22:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Joeyconnick&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Joeyconnick|2019-07-13T22:50:00.000Z|watchlist_inaccuracies_again"></span>
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 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Citation_generator_in_Visual_Editor_not_working_for_PMID_or_PMC_numbers" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Citation_generator_in_Visual_Editor_not_working_for_PMID_or_PMC_numbers|2019-07-09T05:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T05:05:00.000Z|Citation_generator_in_Visual_Editor_not_working_for_PMID_or_PMC_numbers&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Citation_generator_in_Visual_Editor_not_working_for_PMID_or_PMC_numbers|2019-07-09T05:05:00.000Z"></span>Citation generator in Visual Editor not working for PMID or PMC numbers<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Citation_generator_in_Visual_Editor_not_working_for_PMID_or_PMC_numbers|2019-07-09T05:05:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <div role="note" style="float:right; clear:right; border:1px solid #999; -moz-border-radius: 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 2px; border-radius: 2px; background-color:#eee; font-size:85%; text-align:center; padding:0.5em; margin-left:1em; margin-bottom:1em; width:12em" class="plainlinks mw-trackedTemplate"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T05:05:00.000Z|Citation_generator_in_Visual_Editor_not_working_for_PMID_or_PMC_numbers"></span>Tracked in <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/" class="extiw" title="phabricator:">Phabricator</a><br/><b><a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227415" class="extiw" title="phabricator:T227415"><span class="trakfab-T227415">Task T227415</span></a></b></div>
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-<p>It works, most of the time, when you insert the doi number or the article title, but not at all for PMID or PMC numbers. Not sure where I should report this. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anthonyhcole" title="User:Anthonyhcole">Anthonyhcole</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anthonyhcole" title="User talk:Anthonyhcole">talk</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Anthonyhcole" title="Special:Contributions/Anthonyhcole">contribs</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Anthonyhcole" title="Special:EmailUser/Anthonyhcole">email</a>)  05:05, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T05:05:00.000Z|Citation_generator_in_Visual_Editor_not_working_for_PMID_or_PMC_numbers&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-07-09T05:13:00.000Z|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T05:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|TheDJ|2019-07-10T19:30:00.000Z|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T05:05:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T05:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Anthonyhcole&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T05:05:00.000Z|Citation_generator_in_Visual_Editor_not_working_for_PMID_or_PMC_numbers"></span>
+<p>It works, most of the time, when you insert the doi number or the article title, but not at all for PMID or PMC numbers. Not sure where I should report this. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anthonyhcole" title="User:Anthonyhcole">Anthonyhcole</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anthonyhcole" title="User talk:Anthonyhcole">talk</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Anthonyhcole" title="Special:Contributions/Anthonyhcole">contribs</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Anthonyhcole" title="Special:EmailUser/Anthonyhcole">email</a>)  05:05, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T05:05:00.000Z|Citation_generator_in_Visual_Editor_not_working_for_PMID_or_PMC_numbers&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-07-09T05:13:00.000Z|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T05:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|TheDJ|2019-07-10T19:30:00.000Z|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T05:05:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T05:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Anthonyhcole&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T05:05:00.000Z|Citation_generator_in_Visual_Editor_not_working_for_PMID_or_PMC_numbers"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Headbomb|2019-07-09T05:13:00.000Z|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T05:05:00.000Z"></span>It's a known issue involving the tool labs DNS being blocked or something, see <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T226088" class="extiw" title="phabricator:T226088">T226088</a>. <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a>:</span> could probably explain in more details what the issue is.  <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> 05:13, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-07-09T05:13:00.000Z|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T05:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T05:35:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-07-09T05:13:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T05:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Headbomb&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Headbomb|2019-07-09T05:13:00.000Z|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T05:05:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T05:35:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-07-09T05:13:00.000Z"></span>Thanks Headbomb. Seems from <a class="external text" href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T226088">this</a> Phabricator discussion that no one knows what the problem is. It's been 3 weeks now, and I can't see that anyone has taken this on as their task - but perhaps I just don't understand how WMF technical people work. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anthonyhcole" title="User:Anthonyhcole">Anthonyhcole</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anthonyhcole" title="User talk:Anthonyhcole">talk</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Anthonyhcole" title="Special:Contributions/Anthonyhcole">contribs</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Anthonyhcole" title="Special:EmailUser/Anthonyhcole">email</a>)  05:35, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T05:35:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-07-09T05:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|TheDJ|2019-07-09T07:26:00.000Z|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T05:35:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T05:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Anthonyhcole&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T05:35:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-07-09T05:13:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anthonyhcole" title="User:Anthonyhcole"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|TheDJ|2019-07-09T07:26:00.000Z|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T05:35:00.000Z"></span>Anthonyhcole</a>, there are literally 2 people discussing and analysing network traffic in that ticket... What more are you looking for ? A fix before understanding the cause of the problem is not possible. —<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TheDJ" title="User:TheDJ">Th<span style="color: green">e</span>DJ</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheDJ" title="User talk:TheDJ">talk</a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/TheDJ" title="Special:Contributions/TheDJ">contribs</a>) 07:26, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|TheDJ|2019-07-09T07:26:00.000Z|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T05:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T08:23:00.000Z|TheDJ|2019-07-09T07:26:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T07:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;TheDJ&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|TheDJ|2019-07-09T07:26:00.000Z|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T05:35:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T08:23:00.000Z|TheDJ|2019-07-09T07:26:00.000Z"></span>As I say, I don't know how that Phabricator process works. If this is normal, fine. Seems a bit sluggish, though. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anthonyhcole" title="User:Anthonyhcole">Anthonyhcole</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anthonyhcole" title="User talk:Anthonyhcole">talk</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Anthonyhcole" title="Special:Contributions/Anthonyhcole">contribs</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Anthonyhcole" title="Special:EmailUser/Anthonyhcole">email</a>)  08:23, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T08:23:00.000Z|TheDJ|2019-07-09T07:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|AManWithNoPlan|2019-07-09T12:57:00.000Z|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T08:23:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T08:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Anthonyhcole&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T08:23:00.000Z|TheDJ|2019-07-09T07:26:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|AManWithNoPlan|2019-07-09T12:57:00.000Z|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T08:23:00.000Z"></span>Citation bot noticed it a month ago.  It was mistakenly thought to be a DNS firewall problem in the Phab ticket.  I determined that it was an issue with data sizes exceeding 4K within DNS messages, then someone else determined it was only a problem with secure dns.  In summary, there are all sorts of standards and extensions to DNS and pubmed sends something that we don’t handle.  Side note: from what I read, handling split messages over 4K makes some attacks easier.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) 12:57, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|AManWithNoPlan|2019-07-09T12:57:00.000Z|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T08:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-10T04:36:00.000Z|AManWithNoPlan|2019-07-09T12:57:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T12:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;AManWithNoPlan&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|AManWithNoPlan|2019-07-09T12:57:00.000Z|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T08:23:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-10T04:36:00.000Z|AManWithNoPlan|2019-07-09T12:57:00.000Z"></span>Thanks, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">man</a>. I'm in awe of and grateful for what you tech guys can do, but impatient. It's a comfort knowing that this issue is firmly on your radar. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anthonyhcole" title="User:Anthonyhcole">Anthonyhcole</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anthonyhcole" title="User talk:Anthonyhcole">talk</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Anthonyhcole" title="Special:Contributions/Anthonyhcole">contribs</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Anthonyhcole" title="Special:EmailUser/Anthonyhcole">email</a>)  04:36, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-10T04:36:00.000Z|AManWithNoPlan|2019-07-09T12:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T04:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Anthonyhcole&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-10T04:36:00.000Z|AManWithNoPlan|2019-07-09T12:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|TheDJ|2019-07-10T19:30:00.000Z|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T05:05:00.000Z"></span>This issue is now fixed. Thanks for reporting. —<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TheDJ" title="User:TheDJ">Th<span style="color: green">e</span>DJ</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheDJ" title="User talk:TheDJ">talk</a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/TheDJ" title="Special:Contributions/TheDJ">contribs</a>) 19:30, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|TheDJ|2019-07-10T19:30:00.000Z|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T05:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-14T07:15:00.000Z|TheDJ|2019-07-10T19:30:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T19:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;TheDJ&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|TheDJ|2019-07-10T19:30:00.000Z|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T05:05:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-14T07:15:00.000Z|TheDJ|2019-07-10T19:30:00.000Z"></span>Thank you, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TheDJ" title="User:TheDJ">TheDJ</a>. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anthonyhcole" title="User:Anthonyhcole">Anthonyhcole</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anthonyhcole" title="User talk:Anthonyhcole">talk</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Anthonyhcole" title="Special:Contributions/Anthonyhcole">contribs</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Anthonyhcole" title="Special:EmailUser/Anthonyhcole">email</a>)  07:15, 14 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-14T07:15:00.000Z|TheDJ|2019-07-10T19:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-14T07:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Anthonyhcole&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-14T07:15:00.000Z|TheDJ|2019-07-10T19:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Headbomb|2019-07-09T05:13:00.000Z|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T05:05:00.000Z"></span>It's a known issue involving the tool labs DNS being blocked or something, see <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T226088" class="extiw" title="phabricator:T226088">T226088</a>. <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a>:</span> could probably explain in more details what the issue is.  <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> 05:13, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-07-09T05:13:00.000Z|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T05:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T05:35:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-07-09T05:13:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T05:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Headbomb&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Headbomb|2019-07-09T05:13:00.000Z|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T05:05:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T05:35:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-07-09T05:13:00.000Z"></span>Thanks Headbomb. Seems from <a class="external text" href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T226088">this</a> Phabricator discussion that no one knows what the problem is. It's been 3 weeks now, and I can't see that anyone has taken this on as their task - but perhaps I just don't understand how WMF technical people work. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anthonyhcole" title="User:Anthonyhcole">Anthonyhcole</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anthonyhcole" title="User talk:Anthonyhcole">talk</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Anthonyhcole" title="Special:Contributions/Anthonyhcole">contribs</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Anthonyhcole" title="Special:EmailUser/Anthonyhcole">email</a>)  05:35, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T05:35:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-07-09T05:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|TheDJ|2019-07-09T07:26:00.000Z|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T05:35:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T05:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Anthonyhcole&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T05:35:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-07-09T05:13:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anthonyhcole" title="User:Anthonyhcole"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|TheDJ|2019-07-09T07:26:00.000Z|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T05:35:00.000Z"></span>Anthonyhcole</a>, there are literally 2 people discussing and analysing network traffic in that ticket... What more are you looking for ? A fix before understanding the cause of the problem is not possible. —<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TheDJ" title="User:TheDJ">Th<span style="color: green">e</span>DJ</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheDJ" title="User talk:TheDJ">talk</a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/TheDJ" title="Special:Contributions/TheDJ">contribs</a>) 07:26, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|TheDJ|2019-07-09T07:26:00.000Z|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T05:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T08:23:00.000Z|TheDJ|2019-07-09T07:26:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T07:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;TheDJ&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|TheDJ|2019-07-09T07:26:00.000Z|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T05:35:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T08:23:00.000Z|TheDJ|2019-07-09T07:26:00.000Z"></span>As I say, I don't know how that Phabricator process works. If this is normal, fine. Seems a bit sluggish, though. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anthonyhcole" title="User:Anthonyhcole">Anthonyhcole</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anthonyhcole" title="User talk:Anthonyhcole">talk</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Anthonyhcole" title="Special:Contributions/Anthonyhcole">contribs</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Anthonyhcole" title="Special:EmailUser/Anthonyhcole">email</a>)  08:23, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T08:23:00.000Z|TheDJ|2019-07-09T07:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|AManWithNoPlan|2019-07-09T12:57:00.000Z|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T08:23:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T08:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Anthonyhcole&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T08:23:00.000Z|TheDJ|2019-07-09T07:26:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|AManWithNoPlan|2019-07-09T12:57:00.000Z|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T08:23:00.000Z"></span>Citation bot noticed it a month ago.  It was mistakenly thought to be a DNS firewall problem in the Phab ticket.  I determined that it was an issue with data sizes exceeding 4K within DNS messages, then someone else determined it was only a problem with secure dns.  In summary, there are all sorts of standards and extensions to DNS and pubmed sends something that we don’t handle.  Side note: from what I read, handling split messages over 4K makes some attacks easier.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">AManWithNoPlan</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AManWithNoPlan" title="User talk:AManWithNoPlan">talk</a>) 12:57, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|AManWithNoPlan|2019-07-09T12:57:00.000Z|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T08:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-10T04:36:00.000Z|AManWithNoPlan|2019-07-09T12:57:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T12:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;AManWithNoPlan&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|AManWithNoPlan|2019-07-09T12:57:00.000Z|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T08:23:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-10T04:36:00.000Z|AManWithNoPlan|2019-07-09T12:57:00.000Z"></span>Thanks, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AManWithNoPlan" title="User:AManWithNoPlan">man</a>. I'm in awe of and grateful for what you tech guys can do, but impatient. It's a comfort knowing that this issue is firmly on your radar. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anthonyhcole" title="User:Anthonyhcole">Anthonyhcole</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anthonyhcole" title="User talk:Anthonyhcole">talk</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Anthonyhcole" title="Special:Contributions/Anthonyhcole">contribs</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Anthonyhcole" title="Special:EmailUser/Anthonyhcole">email</a>)  04:36, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-10T04:36:00.000Z|AManWithNoPlan|2019-07-09T12:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T04:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Anthonyhcole&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-10T04:36:00.000Z|AManWithNoPlan|2019-07-09T12:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|TheDJ|2019-07-10T19:30:00.000Z|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T05:05:00.000Z"></span>This issue is now fixed. Thanks for reporting. —<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TheDJ" title="User:TheDJ">Th<span style="color: green">e</span>DJ</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheDJ" title="User talk:TheDJ">talk</a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/TheDJ" title="Special:Contributions/TheDJ">contribs</a>) 19:30, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|TheDJ|2019-07-10T19:30:00.000Z|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T05:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-14T07:15:00.000Z|TheDJ|2019-07-10T19:30:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T19:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;TheDJ&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|TheDJ|2019-07-10T19:30:00.000Z|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-09T05:05:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-14T07:15:00.000Z|TheDJ|2019-07-10T19:30:00.000Z"></span>Thank you, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TheDJ" title="User:TheDJ">TheDJ</a>. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anthonyhcole" title="User:Anthonyhcole">Anthonyhcole</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anthonyhcole" title="User talk:Anthonyhcole">talk</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Anthonyhcole" title="Special:Contributions/Anthonyhcole">contribs</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Anthonyhcole" title="Special:EmailUser/Anthonyhcole">email</a>)  07:15, 14 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-14T07:15:00.000Z|TheDJ|2019-07-10T19:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-14T07:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Anthonyhcole&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Anthonyhcole|2019-07-14T07:15:00.000Z|TheDJ|2019-07-10T19:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T11:00:00.000Z|Template:Documentation"></span>There is a problem with tables which occurs while using template {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Documentation" title="Template:Documentation">Documentation</a>}} with parameter |content= (also known as inline documentation). Documentation breaks when it reaches <code>{|</code>. Could this be fixed with a change of <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:Documentation" title="Module:Documentation">Module:Documentation</a>? Thank you! --<span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'">  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gzhegozh" title="User:Gzhegozh"><span style="color:#0066cc;"><b>Gzhegozh</b></span></a> <sub><small><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gzhegozh" title="User talk:Gzhegozh"><span style="color:#ed1c24;"><b>talk</b></span></a></small></sub></span> 11:00, 14 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T11:00:00.000Z|Template:Documentation&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-14T14:10:00.000Z|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T11:00:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-14T11:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gzhegozh&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T11:00:00.000Z|Template:Documentation"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T11:00:00.000Z|Template:Documentation"></span>There is a problem with tables which occurs while using template {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Documentation" title="Template:Documentation">Documentation</a>}} with parameter |content= (also known as inline documentation). Documentation breaks when it reaches <code>{|</code>. Could this be fixed with a change of <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:Documentation" title="Module:Documentation">Module:Documentation</a>? Thank you! --<span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'">  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gzhegozh" title="User:Gzhegozh"><span style="color:#0066cc;"><b>Gzhegozh</b></span></a> <sub><small><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gzhegozh" title="User talk:Gzhegozh"><span style="color:#ed1c24;"><b>talk</b></span></a></small></sub></span> 11:00, 14 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T11:00:00.000Z|Template:Documentation&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-14T14:10:00.000Z|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T11:00:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-14T11:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gzhegozh&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T11:00:00.000Z|Template:Documentation"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-07-14T14:10:00.000Z|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T11:00:00.000Z"></span>This is normal behaviour for templates: you cannot pass a Wikimarkup table through a parameter. I suggest that you make the documentation into a subpage, as is done with the majority of templates. If you state which template, I can carry out the appropriate edits. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 14:10, 14 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-14T14:10:00.000Z|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T11:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T15:03:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-14T14:10:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-14T14:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-07-14T14:10:00.000Z|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T11:00:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T15:03:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-14T14:10:00.000Z"></span>Well, is it possible then to make a subtemplate for inline documentation? Because I have got a following problem in the Ukrainian Wiki: few months ago I discovered that many templates there still contained old, Russian-style inline documentation translusions (Russians use their own documentation style, and there is a special template for inline documentation). So I replaced all those inline documentation transclusions with {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Documentation" title="Template:Documentation">Documentation</a>}} and the parameter |content=, but there were some cases with tables. Despite solving this problem by creating subpages, I think that it would still be helpful if a special inline documentation template is created. For example, in that <a class="external text" href="https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Користувач:ɪ/d-l">link</a> from a user's sandbox you can see a situation where it can be very useful to have such an option, as you don't need to create an extra docpage. <a href="https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A8%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BD:Doc-inline" class="extiw" title="ru:Шаблон:Doc-inline">That</a> Russian template enables this option. --<span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'">  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gzhegozh" title="User:Gzhegozh"><span style="color:#0066cc;"><b>Gzhegozh</b></span></a> <sub><small><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gzhegozh" title="User talk:Gzhegozh"><span style="color:#ed1c24;"><b>talk</b></span></a></small></sub></span> 15:03, 14 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T15:03:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-14T14:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-14T16:43:00.000Z|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T15:03:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-14T15:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gzhegozh&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T15:03:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-14T14:10:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-07-14T16:43:00.000Z|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T15:03:00.000Z"></span>So, this is not a technical issue with the <i>English</i> Wikipedia at all then. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 16:43, 14 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-14T16:43:00.000Z|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T15:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T17:03:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-14T16:43:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-14T16:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-07-14T16:43:00.000Z|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T15:03:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T17:03:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-14T16:43:00.000Z"></span>No, the same problem exists also in the English Wikipedia. --<span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'">  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gzhegozh" title="User:Gzhegozh"><span style="color:#0066cc;"><b>Gzhegozh</b></span></a> <sub><small><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gzhegozh" title="User talk:Gzhegozh"><span style="color:#ed1c24;"><b>talk</b></span></a></small></sub></span> 17:03, 14 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T17:03:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-14T16:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-14T18:32:00.000Z|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T17:03:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-14T17:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gzhegozh&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T17:03:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-14T16:43:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-14T18:32:00.000Z|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T17:03:00.000Z"></span>Template parameters can contain pipes if they are written as <code>{{!}}</code> per <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words#Other" class="extiw" title="mw:Help:Magic words">mw:Help:Magic words#Other</a>. The source will look ugly if it's done for all pipes in a whole table, but it works as shown below. See also the second bullet at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Template#Usage_hints_and_workarounds" title="Help:Template">Help:Template#Usage hints and workarounds</a>. The Russian Wikipedia does not appear to have {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikitable" title="Template:Wikitable">Wikitable</a>}}. <code>{{!}}</code> is not a template but part of MediaWiki and works in all wikis. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 18:32, 14 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-14T18:32:00.000Z|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T17:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T19:10:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-14T18:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-14T18:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-14T18:32:00.000Z|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T17:03:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T19:10:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-14T18:32:00.000Z"></span>Hmm, this looks like a solution. Thank you! --<span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'">  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gzhegozh" title="User:Gzhegozh"><span style="color:#0066cc;"><b>Gzhegozh</b></span></a> <sub><small><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gzhegozh" title="User talk:Gzhegozh"><span style="color:#ed1c24;"><b>talk</b></span></a></small></sub></span> 19:10, 14 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T19:10:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-14T18:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-14T19:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gzhegozh&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T19:10:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-14T18:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-07-14T14:10:00.000Z|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T11:00:00.000Z"></span>This is normal behaviour for templates: you cannot pass a Wikimarkup table through a parameter. I suggest that you make the documentation into a subpage, as is done with the majority of templates. If you state which template, I can carry out the appropriate edits. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 14:10, 14 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-14T14:10:00.000Z|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T11:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T15:03:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-14T14:10:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-14T14:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-07-14T14:10:00.000Z|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T11:00:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T15:03:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-14T14:10:00.000Z"></span>Well, is it possible then to make a subtemplate for inline documentation? Because I have got a following problem in the Ukrainian Wiki: few months ago I discovered that many templates there still contained old, Russian-style inline documentation translusions (Russians use their own documentation style, and there is a special template for inline documentation). So I replaced all those inline documentation transclusions with {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Documentation" title="Template:Documentation">Documentation</a>}} and the parameter |content=, but there were some cases with tables. Despite solving this problem by creating subpages, I think that it would still be helpful if a special inline documentation template is created. For example, in that <a class="external text" href="https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Користувач:ɪ/d-l">link</a> from a user's sandbox you can see a situation where it can be very useful to have such an option, as you don't need to create an extra docpage. <a href="https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A8%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BD:Doc-inline" class="extiw" title="ru:Шаблон:Doc-inline">That</a> Russian template enables this option. --<span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'">  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gzhegozh" title="User:Gzhegozh"><span style="color:#0066cc;"><b>Gzhegozh</b></span></a> <sub><small><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gzhegozh" title="User talk:Gzhegozh"><span style="color:#ed1c24;"><b>talk</b></span></a></small></sub></span> 15:03, 14 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T15:03:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-14T14:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-14T16:43:00.000Z|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T15:03:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-14T15:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gzhegozh&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T15:03:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-14T14:10:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-07-14T16:43:00.000Z|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T15:03:00.000Z"></span>So, this is not a technical issue with the <i>English</i> Wikipedia at all then. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 16:43, 14 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-14T16:43:00.000Z|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T15:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T17:03:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-14T16:43:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-14T16:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-07-14T16:43:00.000Z|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T15:03:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T17:03:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-14T16:43:00.000Z"></span>No, the same problem exists also in the English Wikipedia. --<span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'">  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gzhegozh" title="User:Gzhegozh"><span style="color:#0066cc;"><b>Gzhegozh</b></span></a> <sub><small><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gzhegozh" title="User talk:Gzhegozh"><span style="color:#ed1c24;"><b>talk</b></span></a></small></sub></span> 17:03, 14 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T17:03:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-14T16:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-14T18:32:00.000Z|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T17:03:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-14T17:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gzhegozh&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T17:03:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-14T16:43:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-14T18:32:00.000Z|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T17:03:00.000Z"></span>Template parameters can contain pipes if they are written as <code>{{!}}</code> per <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words#Other" class="extiw" title="mw:Help:Magic words">mw:Help:Magic words#Other</a>. The source will look ugly if it's done for all pipes in a whole table, but it works as shown below. See also the second bullet at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Template#Usage_hints_and_workarounds" title="Help:Template">Help:Template#Usage hints and workarounds</a>. The Russian Wikipedia does not appear to have {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikitable" title="Template:Wikitable">Wikitable</a>}}. <code>{{!}}</code> is not a template but part of MediaWiki and works in all wikis. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 18:32, 14 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-14T18:32:00.000Z|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T17:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T19:10:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-14T18:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-14T18:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-14T18:32:00.000Z|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T17:03:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T19:10:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-14T18:32:00.000Z"></span>Hmm, this looks like a solution. Thank you! --<span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'">  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gzhegozh" title="User:Gzhegozh"><span style="color:#0066cc;"><b>Gzhegozh</b></span></a> <sub><small><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gzhegozh" title="User talk:Gzhegozh"><span style="color:#ed1c24;"><b>talk</b></span></a></small></sub></span> 19:10, 14 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T19:10:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-14T18:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-14T19:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gzhegozh&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gzhegozh|2019-07-14T19:10:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-14T18:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Lugnuts|2019-07-13T12:51:00.000Z|Page_titles_in_italics"></span>Hi. I've just noticed that all article page titles are suddenly showing in italics. Must have happened in the last ~5 minutes or so. Do a null edit on a page to see, if it's not rendering in italics already. I take it this is some temp. glitch? Thanks. <b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lugnuts" title="User:Lugnuts"><font color="002bb8">Lugnuts</font></a></b> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Lugnuts" title="User talk:Lugnuts">Fire Walk with Me</a></sup> 12:51, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Lugnuts|2019-07-13T12:51:00.000Z|Page_titles_in_italics&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:00:00.000Z|Lugnuts|2019-07-13T12:51:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T12:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Lugnuts&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Lugnuts|2019-07-13T12:51:00.000Z|Page_titles_in_italics"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Lugnuts|2019-07-13T12:51:00.000Z|Page_titles_in_italics"></span>Hi. I've just noticed that all article page titles are suddenly showing in italics. Must have happened in the last ~5 minutes or so. Do a null edit on a page to see, if it's not rendering in italics already. I take it this is some temp. glitch? Thanks. <b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lugnuts" title="User:Lugnuts"><font color="002bb8">Lugnuts</font></a></b> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Lugnuts" title="User talk:Lugnuts">Fire Walk with Me</a></sup> 12:51, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Lugnuts|2019-07-13T12:51:00.000Z|Page_titles_in_italics&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:00:00.000Z|Lugnuts|2019-07-13T12:51:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T12:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Lugnuts&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Lugnuts|2019-07-13T12:51:00.000Z|Page_titles_in_italics"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:00:00.000Z|Lugnuts|2019-07-13T12:51:00.000Z"></span>It seems to be connected to {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox" title="Template:Infobox">Infobox</a>}}, as the italics disappear when the infobox in an article removed. —<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nizolan" title="User:Nizolan">Nizolan</a> <sup>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nizolan" title="User talk:Nizolan">talk</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Nizolan" title="Special:Contributions/Nizolan">c.</a>)</sup> 13:00, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:00:00.000Z|Lugnuts|2019-07-13T12:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:03:00.000Z|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Lugnuts|2019-07-15T06:47:00.000Z|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:00:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T13:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nizolan&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:00:00.000Z|Lugnuts|2019-07-13T12:51:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:03:00.000Z|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:00:00.000Z"></span>The culprit appears to be <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=906073835">this edit</a></span> by <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a>, which is causing italic titles to show up all over the place. —<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nizolan" title="User:Nizolan">Nizolan</a> <sup>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nizolan" title="User talk:Nizolan">talk</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Nizolan" title="Special:Contributions/Nizolan">c.</a>)</sup> 13:03, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:03:00.000Z|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:05:00.000Z|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:07:00.000Z|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Lugnuts|2019-07-13T13:09:00.000Z|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:03:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T13:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nizolan&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:03:00.000Z|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:00:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:05:00.000Z|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:03:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for letting me know. I didn't see anything while testing but I'll revert myself while I figure it out. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) 13:05, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:05:00.000Z|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T13:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gonnym&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:05:00.000Z|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:03:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:07:00.000Z|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:03:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lugnuts" title="User:Lugnuts">Lugnuts</a>:</span> could you let me know what page you were looking at? --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) 13:07, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:07:00.000Z|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T13:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gonnym&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:07:00.000Z|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Lugnuts|2019-07-13T13:09:00.000Z|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:03:00.000Z"></span>Hi. I noticed it at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hodan_Nalayeh" title="Hodan Nalayeh">Hodan Nalayeh</a>, but that seems to be fixed now. <b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lugnuts" title="User:Lugnuts"><font color="002bb8">Lugnuts</font></a></b> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Lugnuts" title="User talk:Lugnuts">Fire Walk with Me</a></sup> 13:09, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Lugnuts|2019-07-13T13:09:00.000Z|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:21:00.000Z|Lugnuts|2019-07-13T13:09:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T13:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Lugnuts&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Lugnuts|2019-07-13T13:09:00.000Z|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:03:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:21:00.000Z|Lugnuts|2019-07-13T13:09:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a>:</span> I saw this on many pages - in fact every article I looked at, for example, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1337x" title="1337x">1337x</a>. In many cases it also displayed this error in red at the top of the page: <code>"Warning: Display title "&lt;i>1337x&lt;/i>" overrides earlier display title "1337x" (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Page_name#DISPLAYTITLE_conflicts" title="Wikipedia:Page name">help</a>).</code>" -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Zzuuzz" title="User:Zzuuzz">zzuuzz</a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Zzuuzz" title="User talk:Zzuuzz">(talk)</a></sup> 13:21, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:21:00.000Z|Lugnuts|2019-07-13T13:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:29:00.000Z|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:21:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T13:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Zzuuzz&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:21:00.000Z|Lugnuts|2019-07-13T13:09:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:29:00.000Z|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:21:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Zzuuzz" title="User:Zzuuzz">Zzuuzz</a>:</span> Could you give me a page where you had the conflicting displaytitle issue? --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) 13:29, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:29:00.000Z|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:31:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:29:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T13:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gonnym&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:29:00.000Z|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:21:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:31:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:29:00.000Z"></span>As above, 1337x (which is still in italics). Another was definitely <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XHamster" title="XHamster">xHamster</a> (still displaying the error). -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Zzuuzz" title="User:Zzuuzz">zzuuzz</a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Zzuuzz" title="User talk:Zzuuzz">(talk)</a></sup> 13:31, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:31:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:34:00.000Z|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:37:00.000Z|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:31:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T13:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Zzuuzz&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:31:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:29:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:34:00.000Z|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:31:00.000Z"></span>Thanks! (the just refresh the page as the code was reverted ~30 mins ago). --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) 13:34, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:34:00.000Z|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T13:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gonnym&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:34:00.000Z|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:31:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:37:00.000Z|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:31:00.000Z"></span>Testing the reported pages <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hodan_Nalayeh" title="Hodan Nalayeh">Hodan Nalayeh</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1337x" title="1337x">1337x</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XHamster" title="XHamster">xHamster</a> in preview with the infobox set to /sandbox produces no italics or errors (Just to be clear, I've made changes to the code, hopefully fixing the issue). --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) 13:37, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:37:00.000Z|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:45:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:37:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T13:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gonnym&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:37:00.000Z|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:31:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:45:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:37:00.000Z"></span>Also reported, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Paiute_people" title="Northern Paiute people">Northern Paiute people</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&amp;oldid=906078006#Found_page_title_in_italics_for_no_reason">[16]</a> (but now fixed). I get no errors for 1337x and xHamster in preview without changing anything, but they still display as reported. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Zzuuzz" title="User:Zzuuzz">zzuuzz</a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Zzuuzz" title="User talk:Zzuuzz">(talk)</a></sup> 13:45, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:9,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:45:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:54:00.000Z|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:45:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T13:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Zzuuzz&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:45:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:37:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:54:00.000Z|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:45:00.000Z"></span>OK, a purge got rid of those errors. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Zzuuzz" title="User:Zzuuzz">zzuuzz</a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Zzuuzz" title="User talk:Zzuuzz">(talk)</a></sup> 13:54, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:10,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:54:00.000Z|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-07-14T23:09:00.000Z|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:54:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T13:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Zzuuzz&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:54:00.000Z|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:45:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lugnuts" title="User:Lugnuts"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nyttend|2019-07-14T23:09:00.000Z|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:54:00.000Z"></span>Lugnuts</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Zzuuzz" title="User:Zzuuzz">Zzuuzz</a>, please see <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Holy_Cow_That%27s_Weird.png" title="File:Holy Cow That's Weird.png">File:Holy Cow That's Weird.png</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_107#Egads!!" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 107">the WP:VPT archive where it appears</a>.  This report really strongly reminds me of that incident :-)  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nyttend" title="User talk:Nyttend">talk</a>) 23:09, 14 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:11,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-07-14T23:09:00.000Z|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-14T23:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nyttend&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nyttend|2019-07-14T23:09:00.000Z|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:54:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Lugnuts|2019-07-15T06:47:00.000Z|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:00:00.000Z"></span>Hehe, nice! <b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lugnuts" title="User:Lugnuts"><font color="002bb8">Lugnuts</font></a></b> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Lugnuts" title="User talk:Lugnuts">Fire Walk with Me</a></sup> 06:47, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Lugnuts|2019-07-15T06:47:00.000Z|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T06:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Lugnuts&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Lugnuts|2019-07-15T06:47:00.000Z|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:00:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:00:00.000Z|Lugnuts|2019-07-13T12:51:00.000Z"></span>It seems to be connected to {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox" title="Template:Infobox">Infobox</a>}}, as the italics disappear when the infobox in an article removed. —<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nizolan" title="User:Nizolan">Nizolan</a> <sup>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nizolan" title="User talk:Nizolan">talk</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Nizolan" title="Special:Contributions/Nizolan">c.</a>)</sup> 13:00, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:00:00.000Z|Lugnuts|2019-07-13T12:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:03:00.000Z|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Lugnuts|2019-07-15T06:47:00.000Z|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:00:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T13:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nizolan&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:00:00.000Z|Lugnuts|2019-07-13T12:51:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:03:00.000Z|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:00:00.000Z"></span>The culprit appears to be <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=906073835">this edit</a></span> by <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a>, which is causing italic titles to show up all over the place. —<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nizolan" title="User:Nizolan">Nizolan</a> <sup>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nizolan" title="User talk:Nizolan">talk</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Nizolan" title="Special:Contributions/Nizolan">c.</a>)</sup> 13:03, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:03:00.000Z|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:05:00.000Z|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:07:00.000Z|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Lugnuts|2019-07-13T13:09:00.000Z|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:03:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T13:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nizolan&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:03:00.000Z|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:00:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:05:00.000Z|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:03:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for letting me know. I didn't see anything while testing but I'll revert myself while I figure it out. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) 13:05, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:05:00.000Z|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T13:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gonnym&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:05:00.000Z|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:03:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:07:00.000Z|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:03:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lugnuts" title="User:Lugnuts">Lugnuts</a>:</span> could you let me know what page you were looking at? --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) 13:07, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:07:00.000Z|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T13:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gonnym&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:07:00.000Z|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Lugnuts|2019-07-13T13:09:00.000Z|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:03:00.000Z"></span>Hi. I noticed it at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hodan_Nalayeh" title="Hodan Nalayeh">Hodan Nalayeh</a>, but that seems to be fixed now. <b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lugnuts" title="User:Lugnuts"><font color="002bb8">Lugnuts</font></a></b> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Lugnuts" title="User talk:Lugnuts">Fire Walk with Me</a></sup> 13:09, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Lugnuts|2019-07-13T13:09:00.000Z|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:21:00.000Z|Lugnuts|2019-07-13T13:09:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T13:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Lugnuts&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Lugnuts|2019-07-13T13:09:00.000Z|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:03:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:21:00.000Z|Lugnuts|2019-07-13T13:09:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a>:</span> I saw this on many pages - in fact every article I looked at, for example, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1337x" title="1337x">1337x</a>. In many cases it also displayed this error in red at the top of the page: <code>"Warning: Display title "&lt;i>1337x&lt;/i>" overrides earlier display title "1337x" (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Page_name#DISPLAYTITLE_conflicts" title="Wikipedia:Page name">help</a>).</code>" -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Zzuuzz" title="User:Zzuuzz">zzuuzz</a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Zzuuzz" title="User talk:Zzuuzz">(talk)</a></sup> 13:21, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:21:00.000Z|Lugnuts|2019-07-13T13:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:29:00.000Z|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:21:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T13:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Zzuuzz&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:21:00.000Z|Lugnuts|2019-07-13T13:09:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:29:00.000Z|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:21:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Zzuuzz" title="User:Zzuuzz">Zzuuzz</a>:</span> Could you give me a page where you had the conflicting displaytitle issue? --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) 13:29, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:29:00.000Z|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:31:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:29:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T13:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gonnym&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:29:00.000Z|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:21:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:31:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:29:00.000Z"></span>As above, 1337x (which is still in italics). Another was definitely <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XHamster" title="XHamster">xHamster</a> (still displaying the error). -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Zzuuzz" title="User:Zzuuzz">zzuuzz</a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Zzuuzz" title="User talk:Zzuuzz">(talk)</a></sup> 13:31, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:31:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:34:00.000Z|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:37:00.000Z|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:31:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T13:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Zzuuzz&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:31:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:29:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:34:00.000Z|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:31:00.000Z"></span>Thanks! (the just refresh the page as the code was reverted ~30 mins ago). --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) 13:34, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:34:00.000Z|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T13:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gonnym&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:34:00.000Z|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:31:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:37:00.000Z|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:31:00.000Z"></span>Testing the reported pages <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hodan_Nalayeh" title="Hodan Nalayeh">Hodan Nalayeh</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1337x" title="1337x">1337x</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XHamster" title="XHamster">xHamster</a> in preview with the infobox set to /sandbox produces no italics or errors (Just to be clear, I've made changes to the code, hopefully fixing the issue). --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) 13:37, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:37:00.000Z|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:45:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:37:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T13:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gonnym&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:37:00.000Z|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:31:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:45:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:37:00.000Z"></span>Also reported, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Paiute_people" title="Northern Paiute people">Northern Paiute people</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&amp;oldid=906078006#Found_page_title_in_italics_for_no_reason">[16]</a> (but now fixed). I get no errors for 1337x and xHamster in preview without changing anything, but they still display as reported. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Zzuuzz" title="User:Zzuuzz">zzuuzz</a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Zzuuzz" title="User talk:Zzuuzz">(talk)</a></sup> 13:45, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:9,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:45:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:54:00.000Z|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:45:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T13:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Zzuuzz&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:45:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-13T13:37:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:54:00.000Z|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:45:00.000Z"></span>OK, a purge got rid of those errors. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Zzuuzz" title="User:Zzuuzz">zzuuzz</a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Zzuuzz" title="User talk:Zzuuzz">(talk)</a></sup> 13:54, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:10,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:54:00.000Z|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-07-14T23:09:00.000Z|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:54:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T13:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Zzuuzz&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:54:00.000Z|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:45:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lugnuts" title="User:Lugnuts"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nyttend|2019-07-14T23:09:00.000Z|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:54:00.000Z"></span>Lugnuts</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Zzuuzz" title="User:Zzuuzz">Zzuuzz</a>, please see <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Holy_Cow_That%27s_Weird.png" title="File:Holy Cow That's Weird.png">File:Holy Cow That's Weird.png</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_107#Egads!!" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 107">the WP:VPT archive where it appears</a>.  This report really strongly reminds me of that incident :-)  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nyttend" title="User talk:Nyttend">talk</a>) 23:09, 14 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:11,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-07-14T23:09:00.000Z|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-14T23:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nyttend&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nyttend|2019-07-14T23:09:00.000Z|Zzuuzz|2019-07-13T13:54:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Lugnuts|2019-07-15T06:47:00.000Z|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:00:00.000Z"></span>Hehe, nice! <b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lugnuts" title="User:Lugnuts"><font color="002bb8">Lugnuts</font></a></b> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Lugnuts" title="User talk:Lugnuts">Fire Walk with Me</a></sup> 06:47, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Lugnuts|2019-07-15T06:47:00.000Z|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T06:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Lugnuts&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Lugnuts|2019-07-15T06:47:00.000Z|Nizolan|2019-07-13T13:00:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Special:SuffixIndex" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Special:SuffixIndex|2019-07-15T09:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gzhegozh|2019-07-15T09:49:00.000Z|Special:SuffixIndex&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Special:SuffixIndex|2019-07-15T09:49:00.000Z"></span><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:SuffixIndex" class="new" title="Special:SuffixIndex (page does not exist)">Special:SuffixIndex</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h|Special:SuffixIndex|2019-07-15T09:49:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gzhegozh|2019-07-15T09:49:00.000Z|Special:SuffixIndex"></span>There is a page <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex" title="Special:PrefixIndex">Special:PrefixIndex</a> which is showing all pages starting with a certain name, but can someone create a similar page which would show all pages ending with certain characters? It would be a very useful tool. --<span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'">  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gzhegozh" title="User:Gzhegozh"><span style="color:#0066cc;"><b>Gzhegozh</b></span></a> <sub><small><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gzhegozh" title="User talk:Gzhegozh"><span style="color:#ed1c24;"><b>talk</b></span></a></small></sub></span> 09:49, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gzhegozh|2019-07-15T09:49:00.000Z|Special:SuffixIndex&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-15T10:07:00.000Z|Gzhegozh|2019-07-15T09:49:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T09:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gzhegozh&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gzhegozh|2019-07-15T09:49:00.000Z|Special:SuffixIndex"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gzhegozh|2019-07-15T09:49:00.000Z|Special:SuffixIndex"></span>There is a page <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex" title="Special:PrefixIndex">Special:PrefixIndex</a> which is showing all pages starting with a certain name, but can someone create a similar page which would show all pages ending with certain characters? It would be a very useful tool. --<span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'">  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gzhegozh" title="User:Gzhegozh"><span style="color:#0066cc;"><b>Gzhegozh</b></span></a> <sub><small><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gzhegozh" title="User talk:Gzhegozh"><span style="color:#ed1c24;"><b>talk</b></span></a></small></sub></span> 09:49, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gzhegozh|2019-07-15T09:49:00.000Z|Special:SuffixIndex&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-15T10:07:00.000Z|Gzhegozh|2019-07-15T09:49:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T09:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gzhegozh&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gzhegozh|2019-07-15T09:49:00.000Z|Special:SuffixIndex"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-15T10:07:00.000Z|Gzhegozh|2019-07-15T09:49:00.000Z"></span>There is an old request at <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T12808" class="extiw" title="phab:T12808">phab:T12808</a>: "Introduce Special:Suffixindex". <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 10:07, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-15T10:07:00.000Z|Gzhegozh|2019-07-15T09:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T10:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-15T10:07:00.000Z|Gzhegozh|2019-07-15T09:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-15T10:07:00.000Z|Gzhegozh|2019-07-15T09:49:00.000Z"></span>There is an old request at <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T12808" class="extiw" title="phab:T12808">phab:T12808</a>: "Introduce Special:Suffixindex". <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 10:07, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-15T10:07:00.000Z|Gzhegozh|2019-07-15T09:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T10:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-15T10:07:00.000Z|Gzhegozh|2019-07-15T09:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="PHP7_details" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|PHP7_details|2019-07-14T21:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-07-14T21:10:00.000Z|PHP7_details&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|PHP7_details|2019-07-14T21:10:00.000Z"></span>PHP7 details<span data-mw-comment-end="h|PHP7_details|2019-07-14T21:10:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nyttend|2019-07-14T21:10:00.000Z|PHP7_details"></span>See <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/Nyttend&amp;dir=prev&amp;offset=20190713032425&amp;limit=10&amp;target=Nyttend">my latest ten contributions</a>: some of the edits are tagged with PHP7, and others aren't, although I used the same browser on the same computer to make those edits, and all of them were done with my home wireless network.  Any idea why three are tagged as PHP7 and seven aren't, instead of all ten being tagged or all ten not being tagged?  The PHP7 page says <i>Replacing the Beta Feature, since March 2019 a percentage of all production traffic has been randomly assigned to use PHP instead of HHVM.</i>  I would assume that this means that some of my sessions would use PHP7 and some wouldn't, but you can see that seven of those edits came in one session, yet exactly two of the seven edits used PHP7.  Is every single edit randomly assigned or randomly not-assigned to use PHP7?  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nyttend" title="User talk:Nyttend">talk</a>) 21:10, 14 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-07-14T21:10:00.000Z|PHP7_details&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|TheDJ|2019-07-15T07:24:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-07-14T21:10:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-14T21:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nyttend&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nyttend|2019-07-14T21:10:00.000Z|PHP7_details"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nyttend|2019-07-14T21:10:00.000Z|PHP7_details"></span>See <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/Nyttend&amp;dir=prev&amp;offset=20190713032425&amp;limit=10&amp;target=Nyttend">my latest ten contributions</a>: some of the edits are tagged with PHP7, and others aren't, although I used the same browser on the same computer to make those edits, and all of them were done with my home wireless network.  Any idea why three are tagged as PHP7 and seven aren't, instead of all ten being tagged or all ten not being tagged?  The PHP7 page says <i>Replacing the Beta Feature, since March 2019 a percentage of all production traffic has been randomly assigned to use PHP instead of HHVM.</i>  I would assume that this means that some of my sessions would use PHP7 and some wouldn't, but you can see that seven of those edits came in one session, yet exactly two of the seven edits used PHP7.  Is every single edit randomly assigned or randomly not-assigned to use PHP7?  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nyttend" title="User talk:Nyttend">talk</a>) 21:10, 14 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-07-14T21:10:00.000Z|PHP7_details&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|TheDJ|2019-07-15T07:24:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-07-14T21:10:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-14T21:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nyttend&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nyttend|2019-07-14T21:10:00.000Z|PHP7_details"></span>
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-<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|TheDJ|2019-07-15T07:24:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-07-14T21:10:00.000Z"></span>Nyttend</a>, a percentage of your requests, not of your sessions indeed. —<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TheDJ" title="User:TheDJ">Th<span style="color: green">e</span>DJ</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheDJ" title="User talk:TheDJ">talk</a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/TheDJ" title="Special:Contributions/TheDJ">contribs</a>) 07:24, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|TheDJ|2019-07-15T07:24:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-07-14T21:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-07-15T10:44:00.000Z|TheDJ|2019-07-15T07:24:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T07:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;TheDJ&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|TheDJ|2019-07-15T07:24:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-07-14T21:10:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nyttend|2019-07-15T10:44:00.000Z|TheDJ|2019-07-15T07:24:00.000Z"></span>What's a request?  Is it an edit, or a page request (i.e. my computer asks the server to send a page), or something else?  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nyttend" title="User talk:Nyttend">talk</a>) 10:44, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-07-15T10:44:00.000Z|TheDJ|2019-07-15T07:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|TheDJ|2019-07-15T11:15:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-07-15T10:44:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T10:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nyttend&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nyttend|2019-07-15T10:44:00.000Z|TheDJ|2019-07-15T07:24:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|TheDJ|2019-07-15T11:15:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-07-15T10:44:00.000Z"></span>Nyttend</a>, any communication your browser makes with the servers. For a page, that is usually dozens of requests (each image is a separate request for example). For an edit, it is a single request. —<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TheDJ" title="User:TheDJ">Th<span style="color: green">e</span>DJ</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheDJ" title="User talk:TheDJ">talk</a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/TheDJ" title="Special:Contributions/TheDJ">contribs</a>) 11:15, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|TheDJ|2019-07-15T11:15:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-07-15T10:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T11:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;TheDJ&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|TheDJ|2019-07-15T11:15:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-07-15T10:44:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|TheDJ|2019-07-15T07:24:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-07-14T21:10:00.000Z"></span>Nyttend</a>, a percentage of your requests, not of your sessions indeed. —<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TheDJ" title="User:TheDJ">Th<span style="color: green">e</span>DJ</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheDJ" title="User talk:TheDJ">talk</a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/TheDJ" title="Special:Contributions/TheDJ">contribs</a>) 07:24, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|TheDJ|2019-07-15T07:24:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-07-14T21:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-07-15T10:44:00.000Z|TheDJ|2019-07-15T07:24:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T07:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;TheDJ&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|TheDJ|2019-07-15T07:24:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-07-14T21:10:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nyttend|2019-07-15T10:44:00.000Z|TheDJ|2019-07-15T07:24:00.000Z"></span>What's a request?  Is it an edit, or a page request (i.e. my computer asks the server to send a page), or something else?  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nyttend" title="User talk:Nyttend">talk</a>) 10:44, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-07-15T10:44:00.000Z|TheDJ|2019-07-15T07:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|TheDJ|2019-07-15T11:15:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-07-15T10:44:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T10:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nyttend&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nyttend|2019-07-15T10:44:00.000Z|TheDJ|2019-07-15T07:24:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|TheDJ|2019-07-15T11:15:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-07-15T10:44:00.000Z"></span>Nyttend</a>, any communication your browser makes with the servers. For a page, that is usually dozens of requests (each image is a separate request for example). For an edit, it is a single request. —<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TheDJ" title="User:TheDJ">Th<span style="color: green">e</span>DJ</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheDJ" title="User talk:TheDJ">talk</a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/TheDJ" title="Special:Contributions/TheDJ">contribs</a>) 11:15, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|TheDJ|2019-07-15T11:15:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-07-15T10:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T11:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;TheDJ&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|TheDJ|2019-07-15T11:15:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-07-15T10:44:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id="Whist_marker_-_such_a_popular_article.21"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Whist_marker_-_such_a_popular_article!" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Whist_marker_-_such_a_popular_article!|2019-07-14T21:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Rich Farmbrough|2019-07-14T21:34:00.000Z|Whist_marker_-_such_a_popular_article!&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Whist_marker_-_such_a_popular_article!|2019-07-14T21:34:00.000Z"></span>Whist marker - such a popular article!<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Whist_marker_-_such_a_popular_article!|2019-07-14T21:34:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Rich Farmbrough|2019-07-14T21:34:00.000Z|Whist_marker_-_such_a_popular_article!"></span>See <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Whist_marker" title="Talk:Whist marker">Talk:Whist marker</a>, for the views this trifling monograph has attracted over time - i.e. very few until suddenly 100,000 in one day!  Do we have any ideas why this might happen?  (I have seen previous hadwavey "bot" explanations, of similar phenomena, do we have anything concrete?) 
-</p><p>All the best: <i><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rich_Farmbrough" title="User:Rich Farmbrough">Rich</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rich_Farmbrough" title="User talk:Rich Farmbrough">Farmbrough</a></i>,<small> 21:34, 14 July 2019 (UTC).</small><br/><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Rich Farmbrough|2019-07-14T21:34:00.000Z|Whist_marker_-_such_a_popular_article!&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-14T21:59:00.000Z|Rich Farmbrough|2019-07-14T21:34:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-14T21:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Rich Farmbrough&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Rich Farmbrough|2019-07-14T21:34:00.000Z|Whist_marker_-_such_a_popular_article!"></span>
+</p><p>All the best: <i><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rich_Farmbrough" title="User:Rich Farmbrough">Rich</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rich_Farmbrough" title="User talk:Rich Farmbrough">Farmbrough</a></i>,<small> 21:34, 14 July 2019 (UTC).</small><br/><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Rich Farmbrough|2019-07-14T21:34:00.000Z|Whist_marker_-_such_a_popular_article!&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-14T21:59:00.000Z|Rich Farmbrough|2019-07-14T21:34:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-14T21:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Rich Farmbrough&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Rich Farmbrough|2019-07-14T21:34:00.000Z|Whist_marker_-_such_a_popular_article!"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-14T21:59:00.000Z|Rich Farmbrough|2019-07-14T21:34:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rich_Farmbrough" title="User:Rich Farmbrough">Rich Farmbrough</a>:</span> the <a class="external text" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.wikipedia.org&amp;platform=mobile-web&amp;agent=user&amp;start=2019-07-01&amp;end=2019-07-08&amp;pages=Whist_marker">additional view stats</a> report this is from "mobile web" user clients.  It certainly could be some sort of "bot" (not a wikipedia bot, a web bot) that is not presenting as a bot.  For a few reasons (primarily privacy) detailed reader information is not available except to developers. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 21:59, 14 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-14T21:59:00.000Z|Rich Farmbrough|2019-07-14T21:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-07-14T22:39:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-14T21:59:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-14T21:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-14T21:59:00.000Z|Rich Farmbrough|2019-07-14T21:34:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-14T21:59:00.000Z|Rich Farmbrough|2019-07-14T21:34:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rich_Farmbrough" title="User:Rich Farmbrough">Rich Farmbrough</a>:</span> the <a class="external text" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.wikipedia.org&amp;platform=mobile-web&amp;agent=user&amp;start=2019-07-01&amp;end=2019-07-08&amp;pages=Whist_marker">additional view stats</a> report this is from "mobile web" user clients.  It certainly could be some sort of "bot" (not a wikipedia bot, a web bot) that is not presenting as a bot.  For a few reasons (primarily privacy) detailed reader information is not available except to developers. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 21:59, 14 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-14T21:59:00.000Z|Rich Farmbrough|2019-07-14T21:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-07-14T22:39:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-14T21:59:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-14T21:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-14T21:59:00.000Z|Rich Farmbrough|2019-07-14T21:34:00.000Z"></span>
 <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nyttend|2019-07-14T22:39:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-14T21:59:00.000Z"></span>It's not merely mobile web.  Mobile app and desktop had similar jumps, although smaller:</dd></dl></dd></dl>
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-<dl><dd><dl><dd>So whatever's going on is presenting itself with all sorts of platforms.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nyttend" title="User talk:Nyttend">talk</a>) 22:39, 14 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-07-14T22:39:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-14T21:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Modulus12|2019-07-14T22:51:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-07-14T22:39:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-14T22:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nyttend&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nyttend|2019-07-14T22:39:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-14T21:59:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Modulus12|2019-07-14T22:51:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-07-14T22:39:00.000Z"></span>Just Reddit helping people figure out what their random junk is: <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.reddit.com/r/whatisthisthing/comments/c9taon/my_dad_has_bought_2_of_these_from_junk_shops_over/">[17]</a>. Top comment links the Wikipedia article. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Modulus12" title="User:Modulus12">Modulus12</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Modulus12" title="User talk:Modulus12">talk</a>) 22:51, 14 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Modulus12|2019-07-14T22:51:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-07-14T22:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Rich Farmbrough|2019-07-15T14:49:00.000Z|Modulus12|2019-07-14T22:51:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-14T22:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Modulus12&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Modulus12|2019-07-14T22:51:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-07-14T22:39:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Rich Farmbrough|2019-07-15T14:49:00.000Z|Modulus12|2019-07-14T22:51:00.000Z"></span>Ah, this is the modern equivalent of being slashdotted!  Thanks!  All the best: <i><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rich_Farmbrough" title="User:Rich Farmbrough">Rich</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rich_Farmbrough" title="User talk:Rich Farmbrough">Farmbrough</a></i>,<small> 14:49, 15 July 2019 (UTC).</small><br/><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Rich Farmbrough|2019-07-15T14:49:00.000Z|Modulus12|2019-07-14T22:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T14:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Rich Farmbrough&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Rich Farmbrough|2019-07-15T14:49:00.000Z|Modulus12|2019-07-14T22:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd>So whatever's going on is presenting itself with all sorts of platforms.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nyttend" title="User talk:Nyttend">talk</a>) 22:39, 14 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-07-14T22:39:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-14T21:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Modulus12|2019-07-14T22:51:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-07-14T22:39:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-14T22:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nyttend&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nyttend|2019-07-14T22:39:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-14T21:59:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Modulus12|2019-07-14T22:51:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-07-14T22:39:00.000Z"></span>Just Reddit helping people figure out what their random junk is: <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.reddit.com/r/whatisthisthing/comments/c9taon/my_dad_has_bought_2_of_these_from_junk_shops_over/">[17]</a>. Top comment links the Wikipedia article. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Modulus12" title="User:Modulus12">Modulus12</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Modulus12" title="User talk:Modulus12">talk</a>) 22:51, 14 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Modulus12|2019-07-14T22:51:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-07-14T22:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Rich Farmbrough|2019-07-15T14:49:00.000Z|Modulus12|2019-07-14T22:51:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-14T22:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Modulus12&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Modulus12|2019-07-14T22:51:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-07-14T22:39:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Rich Farmbrough|2019-07-15T14:49:00.000Z|Modulus12|2019-07-14T22:51:00.000Z"></span>Ah, this is the modern equivalent of being slashdotted!  Thanks!  All the best: <i><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rich_Farmbrough" title="User:Rich Farmbrough">Rich</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rich_Farmbrough" title="User talk:Rich Farmbrough">Farmbrough</a></i>,<small> 14:49, 15 July 2019 (UTC).</small><br/><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Rich Farmbrough|2019-07-15T14:49:00.000Z|Modulus12|2019-07-14T22:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T14:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Rich Farmbrough&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Rich Farmbrough|2019-07-15T14:49:00.000Z|Modulus12|2019-07-14T22:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id="How_is_the_.22Number_of_page_watchers_who_visited_recent_edits.22_calculated.3F"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="How_is_the_&quot;Number_of_page_watchers_who_visited_recent_edits&quot;_calculated?" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|How_is_the_\&quot;Number_of_page_watchers_who_visited_recent_edits\&quot;_calculated?|2019-07-10T15:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-10T15:44:00.000Z|How_is_the_\&quot;Number_of_page_watchers_who_visited_recent_edits\&quot;_calculated?&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|How_is_the_&quot;Number_of_page_watchers_who_visited_recent_edits&quot;_calculated?|2019-07-10T15:44:00.000Z"></span>How is the "Number of page watchers who visited recent edits" calculated?<span data-mw-comment-end="h|How_is_the_&quot;Number_of_page_watchers_who_visited_recent_edits&quot;_calculated?|2019-07-10T15:44:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-07-10T15:44:00.000Z|How_is_the_&quot;Number_of_page_watchers_who_visited_recent_edits&quot;_calculated?"></span>Just curious. Neither <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Page_information" title="Help:Page information">Help:Page information</a> nor <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Watchlist" title="Help:Watchlist">Help:Watchlist</a> say. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 15:44, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-10T15:44:00.000Z|How_is_the_\&quot;Number_of_page_watchers_who_visited_recent_edits\&quot;_calculated?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T15:54:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-10T15:44:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T15:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-07-10T15:44:00.000Z|How_is_the_&quot;Number_of_page_watchers_who_visited_recent_edits&quot;_calculated?"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-07-10T15:44:00.000Z|How_is_the_&quot;Number_of_page_watchers_who_visited_recent_edits&quot;_calculated?"></span>Just curious. Neither <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Page_information" title="Help:Page information">Help:Page information</a> nor <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Watchlist" title="Help:Watchlist">Help:Watchlist</a> say. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 15:44, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-10T15:44:00.000Z|How_is_the_\&quot;Number_of_page_watchers_who_visited_recent_edits\&quot;_calculated?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T15:54:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-10T15:44:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T15:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-07-10T15:44:00.000Z|How_is_the_&quot;Number_of_page_watchers_who_visited_recent_edits&quot;_calculated?"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T15:54:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-10T15:44:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a>:</span> not sure, but the <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Info" class="extiw" title="mw:API:Info">API docs</a> describe it further as <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r886049556"/><q class="inline-quote-talk">the number of watchers of each page who have visited recent edits to that page</q>. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 15:54, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T15:54:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-10T15:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Anomie|2019-07-11T13:48:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T15:54:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T15:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T15:54:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-10T15:44:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Anomie|2019-07-11T13:48:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T15:54:00.000Z"></span>Looking at the code, it seems that it skips watchers where the "updated since your last visit" indicator on the history page would show for revisions more than 180 days older that the most recent revision of the page. For example, if the most recent revision of a page is 1 April 2018, it'll skip any watchers who would see the marker on revisions from 3 October 2017 or earlier. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anomie" title="User:Anomie">Anomie</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anomie" title="User talk:Anomie">⚔</a> 13:48, 11 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Anomie|2019-07-11T13:48:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T15:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-12T16:37:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-07-11T13:48:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-11T13:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Anomie&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Anomie|2019-07-11T13:48:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T15:54:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-07-12T16:37:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-07-11T13:48:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anomie" title="User:Anomie">Anomie</a>:</span> Thanks. Could you point to where that code is ? I don't know jack about PHP but it seems to me <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki/blob/61544d6eb235342d004a2fefc159167f28c69099/includes/actions/InfoAction.php">InfoAction.php</a> and the variable "RCMaxAge" have something to do with it, but I could be far off. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 16:37, 12 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-12T16:37:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-07-11T13:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Anomie|2019-07-13T11:31:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-12T16:37:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-12T16:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-07-12T16:37:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-07-11T13:48:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Anomie|2019-07-13T11:31:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-12T16:37:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a>:</span> You're in one of the right files. The actual database query happens at <a href="https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/core/%2B/40a260b04f99458c1eb65127b0a8a7ec0aba79de/includes/watcheditem/WatchedItemStore.php#366" class="extiw" title="gerrit:plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/core/+/40a260b04f99458c1eb65127b0a8a7ec0aba79de/includes/watcheditem/WatchedItemStore.php">WatchedItemStore.php lines 366</a>–382, called from <a href="https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/core/%2B/40a260b04f99458c1eb65127b0a8a7ec0aba79de/includes/actions/InfoAction.php#775" class="extiw" title="gerrit:plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/core/+/40a260b04f99458c1eb65127b0a8a7ec0aba79de/includes/actions/InfoAction.php">InfoAction.php line 775</a> and <a href="https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/core/%2B/40a260b04f99458c1eb65127b0a8a7ec0aba79de/includes/api/ApiQueryInfo.php#927" class="extiw" title="gerrit:plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/core/+/40a260b04f99458c1eb65127b0a8a7ec0aba79de/includes/api/ApiQueryInfo.php">ApiQueryInfo.php line 927</a> with a cutoff time based on <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgWatchersMaxAge" class="extiw" title="mw:Manual:$wgWatchersMaxAge">$wgWatchersMaxAge</a>. $wgRCMaxAge is involved in counting the number of "recent" edits, for a different threshold of "recent". <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anomie" title="User:Anomie">Anomie</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anomie" title="User talk:Anomie">⚔</a> 11:31, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Anomie|2019-07-13T11:31:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-12T16:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-15T15:41:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-07-13T11:31:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T11:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Anomie&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Anomie|2019-07-13T11:31:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-12T16:37:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-07-15T15:41:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-07-13T11:31:00.000Z"></span>Thanks, edited <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Page_information" title="Help:Page information">Help:Page information</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 15:41, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-15T15:41:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-07-13T11:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T15:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-07-15T15:41:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-07-13T11:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T15:54:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-10T15:44:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a>:</span> not sure, but the <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Info" class="extiw" title="mw:API:Info">API docs</a> describe it further as <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r886049556"/><q class="inline-quote-talk">the number of watchers of each page who have visited recent edits to that page</q>. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 15:54, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T15:54:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-10T15:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Anomie|2019-07-11T13:48:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T15:54:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T15:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T15:54:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-10T15:44:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Anomie|2019-07-11T13:48:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T15:54:00.000Z"></span>Looking at the code, it seems that it skips watchers where the "updated since your last visit" indicator on the history page would show for revisions more than 180 days older that the most recent revision of the page. For example, if the most recent revision of a page is 1 April 2018, it'll skip any watchers who would see the marker on revisions from 3 October 2017 or earlier. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anomie" title="User:Anomie">Anomie</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anomie" title="User talk:Anomie">⚔</a> 13:48, 11 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Anomie|2019-07-11T13:48:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T15:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-12T16:37:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-07-11T13:48:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-11T13:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Anomie&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Anomie|2019-07-11T13:48:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-10T15:54:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-07-12T16:37:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-07-11T13:48:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anomie" title="User:Anomie">Anomie</a>:</span> Thanks. Could you point to where that code is ? I don't know jack about PHP but it seems to me <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki/blob/61544d6eb235342d004a2fefc159167f28c69099/includes/actions/InfoAction.php">InfoAction.php</a> and the variable "RCMaxAge" have something to do with it, but I could be far off. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 16:37, 12 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-12T16:37:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-07-11T13:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Anomie|2019-07-13T11:31:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-12T16:37:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-12T16:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-07-12T16:37:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-07-11T13:48:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Anomie|2019-07-13T11:31:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-12T16:37:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a>:</span> You're in one of the right files. The actual database query happens at <a href="https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/core/%2B/40a260b04f99458c1eb65127b0a8a7ec0aba79de/includes/watcheditem/WatchedItemStore.php#366" class="extiw" title="gerrit:plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/core/+/40a260b04f99458c1eb65127b0a8a7ec0aba79de/includes/watcheditem/WatchedItemStore.php">WatchedItemStore.php lines 366</a>–382, called from <a href="https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/core/%2B/40a260b04f99458c1eb65127b0a8a7ec0aba79de/includes/actions/InfoAction.php#775" class="extiw" title="gerrit:plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/core/+/40a260b04f99458c1eb65127b0a8a7ec0aba79de/includes/actions/InfoAction.php">InfoAction.php line 775</a> and <a href="https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/core/%2B/40a260b04f99458c1eb65127b0a8a7ec0aba79de/includes/api/ApiQueryInfo.php#927" class="extiw" title="gerrit:plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/core/+/40a260b04f99458c1eb65127b0a8a7ec0aba79de/includes/api/ApiQueryInfo.php">ApiQueryInfo.php line 927</a> with a cutoff time based on <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgWatchersMaxAge" class="extiw" title="mw:Manual:$wgWatchersMaxAge">$wgWatchersMaxAge</a>. $wgRCMaxAge is involved in counting the number of "recent" edits, for a different threshold of "recent". <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anomie" title="User:Anomie">Anomie</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anomie" title="User talk:Anomie">⚔</a> 11:31, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Anomie|2019-07-13T11:31:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-12T16:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-15T15:41:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-07-13T11:31:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T11:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Anomie&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Anomie|2019-07-13T11:31:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-12T16:37:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-07-15T15:41:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-07-13T11:31:00.000Z"></span>Thanks, edited <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Page_information" title="Help:Page information">Help:Page information</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 15:41, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-15T15:41:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-07-13T11:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T15:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-07-15T15:41:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-07-13T11:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Watchlist" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Watchlist|2019-07-14T10:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-07-14T10:21:00.000Z|Watchlist&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Watchlist|2019-07-14T10:21:00.000Z"></span>Watchlist<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Watchlist|2019-07-14T10:21:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-14T10:21:00.000Z|Watchlist"></span>Is there an easy way to remove all pages which I did not create from my watchlist? Thank you, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 10:21, 14 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-07-14T10:21:00.000Z|Watchlist&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T19:52:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-14T10:21:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-14T10:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-14T10:21:00.000Z|Watchlist"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-14T10:21:00.000Z|Watchlist"></span>Is there an easy way to remove all pages which I did not create from my watchlist? Thank you, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 10:21, 14 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-07-14T10:21:00.000Z|Watchlist&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T19:52:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-14T10:21:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-14T10:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-14T10:21:00.000Z|Watchlist"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T19:52:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-14T10:21:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a>:</span> - no.  You could use <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EditWatchlist/raw" title="Special:EditWatchlist/raw">Special:EditWatchlist/raw</a> to get a dump of your watchlist, then get a query of pages you created and use an offwiki utility to subtract them, then replace the list with your new list. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 19:52, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T19:52:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-14T10:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Eman235|2019-07-15T19:53:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T19:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T19:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T19:52:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-14T10:21:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Eman235|2019-07-15T19:53:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T19:52:00.000Z"></span>Seems like the data from <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://xtools.wmflabs.org/pages/en.wikipedia.org/DuncanHill/all">this</a> would be useful, but downloading a CSV seems to only give me a partial list. <span style="font-family:serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Eman235#top" title="User:Eman235"><span style="color:green;">E<b>man</b></span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Eman235" title="Special:Contributions/Eman235"><span style="color:#6643d1;">2<b>35</b></span></a>/<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eman235#top" title="User talk:Eman235"><span style="color:brown;"><i>talk</i></span></a></span> 19:53, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Eman235|2019-07-15T19:53:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T19:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T19:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Eman235&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Eman235|2019-07-15T19:53:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T19:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T19:52:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-14T10:21:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a>:</span> - no.  You could use <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EditWatchlist/raw" title="Special:EditWatchlist/raw">Special:EditWatchlist/raw</a> to get a dump of your watchlist, then get a query of pages you created and use an offwiki utility to subtract them, then replace the list with your new list. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 19:52, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T19:52:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-14T10:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Eman235|2019-07-15T19:53:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T19:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T19:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T19:52:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-14T10:21:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Eman235|2019-07-15T19:53:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T19:52:00.000Z"></span>Seems like the data from <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://xtools.wmflabs.org/pages/en.wikipedia.org/DuncanHill/all">this</a> would be useful, but downloading a CSV seems to only give me a partial list. <span style="font-family:serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Eman235#top" title="User:Eman235"><span style="color:green;">E<b>man</b></span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Eman235" title="Special:Contributions/Eman235"><span style="color:#6643d1;">2<b>35</b></span></a>/<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eman235#top" title="User talk:Eman235"><span style="color:brown;"><i>talk</i></span></a></span> 19:53, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Eman235|2019-07-15T19:53:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T19:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T19:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Eman235&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Eman235|2019-07-15T19:53:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T19:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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@@ -1173,7 +1173,7 @@ Evolutionary history of life · ‎Timeline of the evolutionary ... · ‎Earlie
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-</p><p><a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:PPelberg_(WMF)" class="extiw" title="mw:User:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User_talk:PPelberg_(WMF)" class="extiw" title="mw:User talk:PPelberg (WMF)">talk</a>) and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Whatamidoing_(WMF)" title="User:Whatamidoing (WMF)">Whatamidoing (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Whatamidoing_(WMF)" title="User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF)">talk</a>) 21:24, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-15T21:24:00.000Z|Learning_more&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T21:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Whatamidoing (WMF)&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-15T21:24:00.000Z|Learning_more"></span>
+</p><p><a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:PPelberg_(WMF)" class="extiw" title="mw:User:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User_talk:PPelberg_(WMF)" class="extiw" title="mw:User talk:PPelberg (WMF)">talk</a>) and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Whatamidoing_(WMF)" title="User:Whatamidoing (WMF)">Whatamidoing (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Whatamidoing_(WMF)" title="User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF)">talk</a>) 21:24, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-15T21:24:00.000Z|Learning_more&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T21:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Whatamidoing (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-15T21:24:00.000Z|Learning_more"></span>
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-</p><p>Don't waste your time trying to give feedback on the Android item; the "leave feedback" page doesn't let you add a new section and doesn't even have an edit button.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nyttend" title="User talk:Nyttend">talk</a>) 21:43, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-07-15T21:43:00.000Z|Tech_News:_2019-29&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T21:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nyttend&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nyttend|2019-07-15T21:43:00.000Z|Tech_News:_2019-29"></span>
+</p><p>Don't waste your time trying to give feedback on the Android item; the "leave feedback" page doesn't let you add a new section and doesn't even have an edit button.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nyttend" title="User talk:Nyttend">talk</a>) 21:43, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-07-15T21:43:00.000Z|Tech_News:_2019-29&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T21:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nyttend&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nyttend|2019-07-15T21:43:00.000Z|Tech_News:_2019-29"></span>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Remagoxer|2019-07-16T09:19:00.000Z|WP:Dashboard_on_sidebar"></span>I had an idea that the Dashboard should be on the sidebar below the Community Portal. I don't know how to add it locally, and I feel it should be sitewide anyway. Thoughts? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Remagoxer" title="User:Remagoxer">Remagoxer</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remagoxer" title="User talk:Remagoxer">talk</a>) 09:19, 16 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Remagoxer|2019-07-16T09:19:00.000Z|WP:Dashboard_on_sidebar&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-16T10:04:00.000Z|Remagoxer|2019-07-16T09:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-16T12:13:00.000Z|Remagoxer|2019-07-16T09:19:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-16T09:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Remagoxer&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Remagoxer|2019-07-16T09:19:00.000Z|WP:Dashboard_on_sidebar"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Remagoxer|2019-07-16T09:19:00.000Z|WP:Dashboard_on_sidebar"></span>I had an idea that the Dashboard should be on the sidebar below the Community Portal. I don't know how to add it locally, and I feel it should be sitewide anyway. Thoughts? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Remagoxer" title="User:Remagoxer">Remagoxer</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remagoxer" title="User talk:Remagoxer">talk</a>) 09:19, 16 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Remagoxer|2019-07-16T09:19:00.000Z|WP:Dashboard_on_sidebar&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-16T10:04:00.000Z|Remagoxer|2019-07-16T09:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-16T12:13:00.000Z|Remagoxer|2019-07-16T09:19:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-16T09:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Remagoxer&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Remagoxer|2019-07-16T09:19:00.000Z|WP:Dashboard_on_sidebar"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-16T10:04:00.000Z|Remagoxer|2019-07-16T09:19:00.000Z"></span>An administrator can add it to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Sidebar" title="MediaWiki:Sidebar">MediaWiki:Sidebar</a> but I see no good reason. The first link in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_portal" title="Wikipedia:Community portal">Wikipedia:Community portal</a> is <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dashboard" title="Wikipedia:Dashboard">Wikipedia:Dashboard</a> and it's linked twice more. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 10:04, 16 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-16T10:04:00.000Z|Remagoxer|2019-07-16T09:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-16T10:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-16T10:04:00.000Z|Remagoxer|2019-07-16T09:19:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-16T12:13:00.000Z|Remagoxer|2019-07-16T09:19:00.000Z"></span>You can add a <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dashboard" title="Wikipedia:Dashboard">Dashboard</a> link below "Community Portal" for your own account with the below in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MyPage/common.js" title="Special:MyPage/common.js">your common JavaScript</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 12:13, 16 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-16T12:13:00.000Z|Remagoxer|2019-07-16T09:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-16T12:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-16T12:13:00.000Z|Remagoxer|2019-07-16T09:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-16T10:04:00.000Z|Remagoxer|2019-07-16T09:19:00.000Z"></span>An administrator can add it to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Sidebar" title="MediaWiki:Sidebar">MediaWiki:Sidebar</a> but I see no good reason. The first link in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_portal" title="Wikipedia:Community portal">Wikipedia:Community portal</a> is <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dashboard" title="Wikipedia:Dashboard">Wikipedia:Dashboard</a> and it's linked twice more. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 10:04, 16 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-16T10:04:00.000Z|Remagoxer|2019-07-16T09:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-16T10:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-16T10:04:00.000Z|Remagoxer|2019-07-16T09:19:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-16T12:13:00.000Z|Remagoxer|2019-07-16T09:19:00.000Z"></span>You can add a <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dashboard" title="Wikipedia:Dashboard">Dashboard</a> link below "Community Portal" for your own account with the below in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MyPage/common.js" title="Special:MyPage/common.js">your common JavaScript</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 12:13, 16 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-16T12:13:00.000Z|Remagoxer|2019-07-16T09:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-16T12:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-16T12:13:00.000Z|Remagoxer|2019-07-16T09:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
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 <h2><span id="Reward_for_a_task.21"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Reward_for_a_task!" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Reward_for_a_task!|2019-07-17T05:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-07-17T05:58:00.000Z|Reward_for_a_task!&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Reward_for_a_task!|2019-07-17T05:58:00.000Z"></span>Reward for a task!<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Reward_for_a_task!|2019-07-17T05:58:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reward_board#Add_a_&quot;delete_associated_talk_page_checkbox&quot;_to_the_delete_form" title="Wikipedia:Reward board"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-07-17T05:58:00.000Z|Reward_for_a_task!"></span>There's a bounty</a> of 50<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USD" class="mw-redirect" title="USD">$</a> for anyone who manages to solve <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T27471" class="extiw" title="phabricator:T27471">T27471</a> which concerns with adding a "delete associated talk page" checkbox to the delete form. <small>The commit must be shepherded through code-review and merged to the master-branch; customized java-script based fixes are disallowed.</small> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Winged_Blades_of_Godric_(AWB)" title="User:Winged Blades of Godric (AWB)"><span style="color:green">~ <i>Winged Blades</i></span></a><sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Winged_Blades_of_Godric" title="User talk:Winged Blades of Godric"><span style="color:green">Godric</span></a></sup> 05:58, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-07-17T05:58:00.000Z|Reward_for_a_task!&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-17T06:37:00.000Z|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-07-17T05:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-17T10:08:00.000Z|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-07-17T05:58:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-17T05:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Winged Blades of Godric&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-07-17T05:58:00.000Z|Reward_for_a_task!"></span>
+<p><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reward_board#Add_a_&quot;delete_associated_talk_page_checkbox&quot;_to_the_delete_form" title="Wikipedia:Reward board"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-07-17T05:58:00.000Z|Reward_for_a_task!"></span>There's a bounty</a> of 50<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USD" class="mw-redirect" title="USD">$</a> for anyone who manages to solve <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T27471" class="extiw" title="phabricator:T27471">T27471</a> which concerns with adding a "delete associated talk page" checkbox to the delete form. <small>The commit must be shepherded through code-review and merged to the master-branch; customized java-script based fixes are disallowed.</small> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Winged_Blades_of_Godric_(AWB)" title="User:Winged Blades of Godric (AWB)"><span style="color:green">~ <i>Winged Blades</i></span></a><sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Winged_Blades_of_Godric" title="User talk:Winged Blades of Godric"><span style="color:green">Godric</span></a></sup> 05:58, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-07-17T05:58:00.000Z|Reward_for_a_task!&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-17T06:37:00.000Z|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-07-17T05:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-17T10:08:00.000Z|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-07-17T05:58:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-17T05:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Winged Blades of Godric&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-07-17T05:58:00.000Z|Reward_for_a_task!"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-07-17T06:37:00.000Z|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-07-17T05:58:00.000Z"></span>If anyone is interested, but no idea how to proceed, take a look at <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker" class="extiw" title="mw:How to become a MediaWiki hacker">mw:How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker</a>. Some knowledge of LAMP is necessary. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 06:37, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-17T06:37:00.000Z|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-07-17T05:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-17T06:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-07-17T06:37:00.000Z|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-07-17T05:58:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-17T10:08:00.000Z|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-07-17T05:58:00.000Z"></span>I have made a related suggestion at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Confirmdeletetext#Add_link_to_delete_an_associated_talk_page" title="MediaWiki talk:Confirmdeletetext">MediaWiki talk:Confirmdeletetext#Add link to delete an associated talk page</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 10:08, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-17T10:08:00.000Z|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-07-17T05:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-17T10:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-17T10:08:00.000Z|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-07-17T05:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-07-17T06:37:00.000Z|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-07-17T05:58:00.000Z"></span>If anyone is interested, but no idea how to proceed, take a look at <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker" class="extiw" title="mw:How to become a MediaWiki hacker">mw:How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker</a>. Some knowledge of LAMP is necessary. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 06:37, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-07-17T06:37:00.000Z|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-07-17T05:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-17T06:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-07-17T06:37:00.000Z|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-07-17T05:58:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-17T10:08:00.000Z|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-07-17T05:58:00.000Z"></span>I have made a related suggestion at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Confirmdeletetext#Add_link_to_delete_an_associated_talk_page" title="MediaWiki talk:Confirmdeletetext">MediaWiki talk:Confirmdeletetext#Add link to delete an associated talk page</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 10:08, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-17T10:08:00.000Z|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-07-17T05:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-17T10:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-17T10:08:00.000Z|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-07-17T05:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
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 <div role="note" style="float:right; clear:right; border:1px solid #999; -moz-border-radius: 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 2px; border-radius: 2px; background-color:#eee; font-size:85%; text-align:center; padding:0.5em; margin-left:1em; margin-bottom:1em; width:12em" class="plainlinks mw-trackedTemplate"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Rhododendrites|2019-07-11T17:44:00.000Z|&quot;Publish_changes&quot;"></span>Tracked in <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/" class="extiw" title="phabricator:">Phabricator</a><br/><b><a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228116" class="extiw" title="phabricator:T228116"><span class="trakfab-T228116">Task T228116</span></a></b></div>
 <p>Some time ago, the save button was replaced with a "publish changes" button. I work with an awful lot of new editors both on-wiki and off-wiki, and it is perhaps the most frequent source of confusion (after maybe why VE doesn't work on talk pages -- but that's a whole other deal with technical constraints). The awkward language choice of part of the interface shouldn't be something I have to bring up in every introduction to editing session I run (and shouldn't be something that confuses so many people even after bringing it up). Specifically, it comes up when new users are starting to edit in their userspace, in a sandbox, in a draft, etc. -- people see "publish changes" and hesitate because of the implications of "publish". 
-</p><p>I'm sure there have been threads about this in the past, but I'm not sure the best way to search for this. Has this change been well-received otherwise? — <samp><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rhododendrites" title="User:Rhododendrites"><span style="font-size:90%;letter-spacing:1px;text-shadow:0px -1px 0px Indigo;">Rhododendrites</span></a> <sup style="font-size:80%;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rhododendrites" title="User talk:Rhododendrites">talk</a></sup></samp> \\ 17:44, 11 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Rhododendrites|2019-07-11T17:44:00.000Z|\&quot;Publish_changes\&quot;&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Iridescent|2019-07-11T17:49:00.000Z|Rhododendrites|2019-07-11T17:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Snaevar|2019-07-11T19:32:00.000Z|Rhododendrites|2019-07-11T17:44:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-11T17:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Rhododendrites&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Rhododendrites|2019-07-11T17:44:00.000Z|&quot;Publish_changes&quot;"></span>
+</p><p>I'm sure there have been threads about this in the past, but I'm not sure the best way to search for this. Has this change been well-received otherwise? — <samp><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rhododendrites" title="User:Rhododendrites"><span style="font-size:90%;letter-spacing:1px;text-shadow:0px -1px 0px Indigo;">Rhododendrites</span></a> <sup style="font-size:80%;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rhododendrites" title="User talk:Rhododendrites">talk</a></sup></samp> \\ 17:44, 11 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Rhododendrites|2019-07-11T17:44:00.000Z|\&quot;Publish_changes\&quot;&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Iridescent|2019-07-11T17:49:00.000Z|Rhododendrites|2019-07-11T17:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Snaevar|2019-07-11T19:32:00.000Z|Rhododendrites|2019-07-11T17:44:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-11T17:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Rhododendrites&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Rhododendrites|2019-07-11T17:44:00.000Z|&quot;Publish_changes&quot;"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Iridescent|2019-07-11T17:49:00.000Z|Rhododendrites|2019-07-11T17:44:00.000Z"></span>IIRC this change was made by WMF legal and is non-negotiable; they wanted to make it clear to editors that the moment one clicks that button, whatever is in your edit window becomes publicly available for anyone to view and not saved to a private userspace inaccessable to others, whatever the namespace being edited. It was a global change, so the discussions will I assume be on Meta. The announcement was <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)/Archive_57#Change_to_the_edit_submission_button_label" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)/Archive 57">here</a>, so the discussions if there were any will be shortly before that. ‑ <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Iridescent" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Iridescent">Iridescent</a> 17:49, 11 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Iridescent|2019-07-11T17:49:00.000Z|Rhododendrites|2019-07-11T17:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|JoJo Eumerus mobile|2019-07-11T18:44:00.000Z|Iridescent|2019-07-11T17:49:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-11T17:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Iridescent&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Iridescent|2019-07-11T17:49:00.000Z|Rhododendrites|2019-07-11T17:44:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JoJo Eumerus mobile|2019-07-11T18:44:00.000Z|Iridescent|2019-07-11T17:49:00.000Z"></span>I recall seeing some discussion on Phabricator; I'll see if I can find links. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JoJo_Eumerus_mobile" title="User:JoJo Eumerus mobile">JoJo Eumerus mobile</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoJo_Eumerus_mobile" title="User talk:JoJo Eumerus mobile">talk</a>) 18:44, 11 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JoJo Eumerus mobile|2019-07-11T18:44:00.000Z|Iridescent|2019-07-11T17:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-11T18:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JoJo Eumerus mobile&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JoJo Eumerus mobile|2019-07-11T18:44:00.000Z|Iridescent|2019-07-11T17:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Snaevar|2019-07-11T19:32:00.000Z|Rhododendrites|2019-07-11T17:44:00.000Z"></span>Actually the save button was changed to "publish changes" because of newbies. In <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UX_testing" class="mw-redirect" title="UX testing">UX testing</a> newbies did expect the save button to work more like drafts. There was a need to change the text of the button to be more decisive. The bug behind this change is <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131132" class="extiw" title="phab:T131132">T131132</a>, which explains this further.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Snaevar" title="User:Snaevar">Snaevar</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Snaevar" title="User talk:Snaevar">talk</a>) 19:32, 11 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Snaevar|2019-07-11T19:32:00.000Z|Rhododendrites|2019-07-11T17:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-11T19:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Snaevar&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Snaevar|2019-07-11T19:32:00.000Z|Rhododendrites|2019-07-11T17:44:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Rhododendrites|2019-07-12T16:32:00.000Z|&quot;Publish_changes&quot;"></span>Thanks all. From the sound of it, it seems like it makes most sense to use "publish changes" in most namespaces, but switch back to "save changes" for draft and userspace? Might be too much of a hassle to change, though (other than on a per-user basis with a script, of course, but that sort of defeats the point). — <samp><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rhododendrites" title="User:Rhododendrites"><span style="font-size:90%;letter-spacing:1px;text-shadow:0px -1px 0px Indigo;">Rhododendrites</span></a> <sup style="font-size:80%;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rhododendrites" title="User talk:Rhododendrites">talk</a></sup></samp> \\ 16:32, 12 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Rhododendrites|2019-07-12T16:32:00.000Z|\&quot;Publish_changes\&quot;&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-15T23:27:00.000Z|Rhododendrites|2019-07-12T16:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-12T16:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Rhododendrites&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Rhododendrites|2019-07-12T16:32:00.000Z|&quot;Publish_changes&quot;"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Iridescent|2019-07-11T17:49:00.000Z|Rhododendrites|2019-07-11T17:44:00.000Z"></span>IIRC this change was made by WMF legal and is non-negotiable; they wanted to make it clear to editors that the moment one clicks that button, whatever is in your edit window becomes publicly available for anyone to view and not saved to a private userspace inaccessable to others, whatever the namespace being edited. It was a global change, so the discussions will I assume be on Meta. The announcement was <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)/Archive_57#Change_to_the_edit_submission_button_label" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)/Archive 57">here</a>, so the discussions if there were any will be shortly before that. ‑ <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Iridescent" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Iridescent">Iridescent</a> 17:49, 11 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Iridescent|2019-07-11T17:49:00.000Z|Rhododendrites|2019-07-11T17:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|JoJo Eumerus mobile|2019-07-11T18:44:00.000Z|Iridescent|2019-07-11T17:49:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-11T17:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Iridescent&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Iridescent|2019-07-11T17:49:00.000Z|Rhododendrites|2019-07-11T17:44:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JoJo Eumerus mobile|2019-07-11T18:44:00.000Z|Iridescent|2019-07-11T17:49:00.000Z"></span>I recall seeing some discussion on Phabricator; I'll see if I can find links. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JoJo_Eumerus_mobile" title="User:JoJo Eumerus mobile">JoJo Eumerus mobile</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoJo_Eumerus_mobile" title="User talk:JoJo Eumerus mobile">talk</a>) 18:44, 11 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JoJo Eumerus mobile|2019-07-11T18:44:00.000Z|Iridescent|2019-07-11T17:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-11T18:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JoJo Eumerus mobile&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JoJo Eumerus mobile|2019-07-11T18:44:00.000Z|Iridescent|2019-07-11T17:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Snaevar|2019-07-11T19:32:00.000Z|Rhododendrites|2019-07-11T17:44:00.000Z"></span>Actually the save button was changed to "publish changes" because of newbies. In <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UX_testing" class="mw-redirect" title="UX testing">UX testing</a> newbies did expect the save button to work more like drafts. There was a need to change the text of the button to be more decisive. The bug behind this change is <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131132" class="extiw" title="phab:T131132">T131132</a>, which explains this further.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Snaevar" title="User:Snaevar">Snaevar</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Snaevar" title="User talk:Snaevar">talk</a>) 19:32, 11 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Snaevar|2019-07-11T19:32:00.000Z|Rhododendrites|2019-07-11T17:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-11T19:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Snaevar&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Snaevar|2019-07-11T19:32:00.000Z|Rhododendrites|2019-07-11T17:44:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Rhododendrites|2019-07-12T16:32:00.000Z|&quot;Publish_changes&quot;"></span>Thanks all. From the sound of it, it seems like it makes most sense to use "publish changes" in most namespaces, but switch back to "save changes" for draft and userspace? Might be too much of a hassle to change, though (other than on a per-user basis with a script, of course, but that sort of defeats the point). — <samp><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rhododendrites" title="User:Rhododendrites"><span style="font-size:90%;letter-spacing:1px;text-shadow:0px -1px 0px Indigo;">Rhododendrites</span></a> <sup style="font-size:80%;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rhododendrites" title="User talk:Rhododendrites">talk</a></sup></samp> \\ 16:32, 12 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Rhododendrites|2019-07-12T16:32:00.000Z|\&quot;Publish_changes\&quot;&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-15T23:27:00.000Z|Rhododendrites|2019-07-12T16:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-12T16:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Rhododendrites&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Rhododendrites|2019-07-12T16:32:00.000Z|&quot;Publish_changes&quot;"></span>
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 <dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rhododendrites" title="User:Rhododendrites"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-15T23:27:00.000Z|Rhododendrites|2019-07-12T16:32:00.000Z"></span>Rhododendrites</a>, I've been asking around about this since the change was made a few years back.  So far, with one exception, the editathon folks tell me that the problem is that new users actually do understand this, and are intimidated by making their creations available to the general public.  They want to clean it up and try to make it "perfect" before anyone else can see it.  (That is, they're looking for a save button that doesn't publish their edits, which is not how our big blue button works.)  I'd be very interested in hearing whether your users express similar sentiments.</dd>
-<dd>Draft space and userspace are just as <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Published#Definition" title="Wikipedia:Published">published</a> as the mainspace.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Whatamidoing_(WMF)" title="User:Whatamidoing (WMF)">Whatamidoing (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Whatamidoing_(WMF)" title="User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF)">talk</a>) 23:27, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-15T23:27:00.000Z|Rhododendrites|2019-07-12T16:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-15T23:44:00.000Z|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-15T23:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T23:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Whatamidoing (WMF)&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-15T23:27:00.000Z|Rhododendrites|2019-07-12T16:32:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-07-15T23:44:00.000Z|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-15T23:27:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:HJ_Mitchell" title="User:HJ Mitchell">HJ Mitchell</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Pigsonthewing</a>,  and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RexxS" title="User:RexxS">RexxS</a>:</span> You often teach new users, but I don't know if you watch this page; please can you supply some feedback for Whatamidoing? --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 23:44, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-15T23:44:00.000Z|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-15T23:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Elizium23|2019-07-13T14:03:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-15T23:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|RexxS|2019-07-16T15:08:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-15T23:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Pigsonthewing|2019-07-17T10:28:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-15T23:44:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T23:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-07-15T23:44:00.000Z|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-15T23:27:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Elizium23|2019-07-13T14:03:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-15T23:44:00.000Z"></span>OK, if there was such a hoo-hah about calling it "Save" then why does the ephemeral popup dialog still read "Your edit was saved." Should it not be changed to "Your edit was published!" for consistency? Won't someone be confused about whether the edit was saved or published, when she pressed "Publish" but it was "Saved" instead? Also, the ephemeral dialog is annoying to me: it covers screen real-estate, <s>can't be dismissed early</s>, and goes away without being acknowledged, as if we had time to spot and read it. Not a good experience at all. (EDIT: It apparently can be dismissed early, if your reaction time is FPS-trained enough to hit the tiny "X" before it fades and disappears (~5 seconds.) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Elizium23" title="User:Elizium23">Elizium23</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Elizium23" title="User talk:Elizium23">talk</a>) 14:03, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Elizium23|2019-07-13T14:03:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-15T23:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-15T23:23:00.000Z|Elizium23|2019-07-13T14:03:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T14:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Elizium23&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Elizium23|2019-07-13T14:03:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-15T23:44:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-15T23:23:00.000Z|Elizium23|2019-07-13T14:03:00.000Z"></span>Good point, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Elizium23" title="User:Elizium23">Elizium23</a>.  I filed a bug report about that.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Whatamidoing_(WMF)" title="User:Whatamidoing (WMF)">Whatamidoing (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Whatamidoing_(WMF)" title="User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF)">talk</a>) 23:23, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-15T23:23:00.000Z|Elizium23|2019-07-13T14:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T23:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Whatamidoing (WMF)&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-15T23:23:00.000Z|Elizium23|2019-07-13T14:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd>Draft space and userspace are just as <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Published#Definition" title="Wikipedia:Published">published</a> as the mainspace.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Whatamidoing_(WMF)" title="User:Whatamidoing (WMF)">Whatamidoing (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Whatamidoing_(WMF)" title="User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF)">talk</a>) 23:27, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-15T23:27:00.000Z|Rhododendrites|2019-07-12T16:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-15T23:44:00.000Z|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-15T23:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T23:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Whatamidoing (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-15T23:27:00.000Z|Rhododendrites|2019-07-12T16:32:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-07-15T23:44:00.000Z|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-15T23:27:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:HJ_Mitchell" title="User:HJ Mitchell">HJ Mitchell</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Pigsonthewing</a>,  and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RexxS" title="User:RexxS">RexxS</a>:</span> You often teach new users, but I don't know if you watch this page; please can you supply some feedback for Whatamidoing? --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 23:44, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-15T23:44:00.000Z|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-15T23:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Elizium23|2019-07-13T14:03:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-15T23:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|RexxS|2019-07-16T15:08:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-15T23:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Pigsonthewing|2019-07-17T10:28:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-15T23:44:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T23:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-07-15T23:44:00.000Z|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-15T23:27:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Elizium23|2019-07-13T14:03:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-15T23:44:00.000Z"></span>OK, if there was such a hoo-hah about calling it "Save" then why does the ephemeral popup dialog still read "Your edit was saved." Should it not be changed to "Your edit was published!" for consistency? Won't someone be confused about whether the edit was saved or published, when she pressed "Publish" but it was "Saved" instead? Also, the ephemeral dialog is annoying to me: it covers screen real-estate, <s>can't be dismissed early</s>, and goes away without being acknowledged, as if we had time to spot and read it. Not a good experience at all. (EDIT: It apparently can be dismissed early, if your reaction time is FPS-trained enough to hit the tiny "X" before it fades and disappears (~5 seconds.) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Elizium23" title="User:Elizium23">Elizium23</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Elizium23" title="User talk:Elizium23">talk</a>) 14:03, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Elizium23|2019-07-13T14:03:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-15T23:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-15T23:23:00.000Z|Elizium23|2019-07-13T14:03:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T14:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Elizium23&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Elizium23|2019-07-13T14:03:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-15T23:44:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-15T23:23:00.000Z|Elizium23|2019-07-13T14:03:00.000Z"></span>Good point, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Elizium23" title="User:Elizium23">Elizium23</a>.  I filed a bug report about that.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Whatamidoing_(WMF)" title="User:Whatamidoing (WMF)">Whatamidoing (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Whatamidoing_(WMF)" title="User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF)">talk</a>) 23:23, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-15T23:23:00.000Z|Elizium23|2019-07-13T14:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T23:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Whatamidoing (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-15T23:23:00.000Z|Elizium23|2019-07-13T14:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
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-<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RexxS|2019-07-16T15:08:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-15T23:44:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64">Redrose64</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Whatamidoing_(WMF)" title="User:Whatamidoing (WMF)">Whatamidoing (WMF)</a>:</span> I've not found it an issue for new editors at editathons and workshops. I almost always guide new editors through their first edit, which is normally to their user page to say what topics they are interested in. I make a point of explaining that publishing it makes it visible to the whole world and caution against writing anything that they wouldn't want everyone to see. After that I use "publish" and "save" interchangeably and I don't believe I've ever found anyone confused by that. Hope that helps. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RexxS" title="User:RexxS">RexxS</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RexxS" title="User talk:RexxS">talk</a>) 15:08, 16 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RexxS|2019-07-16T15:08:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-15T23:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-16T15:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RexxS&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RexxS|2019-07-16T15:08:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-15T23:44:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Pigsonthewing|2019-07-17T10:28:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-15T23:44:00.000Z"></span>I concur with the OP; it's a point of confusion, as happened with the last event i ran, earlier this month. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a></span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></span> 10:28, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pigsonthewing|2019-07-17T10:28:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-15T23:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-17T10:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pigsonthewing&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Pigsonthewing|2019-07-17T10:28:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-15T23:44:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RexxS|2019-07-16T15:08:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-15T23:44:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64">Redrose64</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Whatamidoing_(WMF)" title="User:Whatamidoing (WMF)">Whatamidoing (WMF)</a>:</span> I've not found it an issue for new editors at editathons and workshops. I almost always guide new editors through their first edit, which is normally to their user page to say what topics they are interested in. I make a point of explaining that publishing it makes it visible to the whole world and caution against writing anything that they wouldn't want everyone to see. After that I use "publish" and "save" interchangeably and I don't believe I've ever found anyone confused by that. Hope that helps. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RexxS" title="User:RexxS">RexxS</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RexxS" title="User talk:RexxS">talk</a>) 15:08, 16 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RexxS|2019-07-16T15:08:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-15T23:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-16T15:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RexxS&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RexxS|2019-07-16T15:08:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-15T23:44:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Pigsonthewing|2019-07-17T10:28:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-15T23:44:00.000Z"></span>I concur with the OP; it's a point of confusion, as happened with the last event i ran, earlier this month. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a></span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></span> 10:28, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pigsonthewing|2019-07-17T10:28:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-15T23:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-17T10:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pigsonthewing&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Pigsonthewing|2019-07-17T10:28:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-15T23:44:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Request_to_fix_uw-paid1_and_uw-paid2" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Request_to_fix_uw-paid1_and_uw-paid2|2019-07-17T14:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|ToBeFree|2019-07-17T14:00:00.000Z|Request_to_fix_uw-paid1_and_uw-paid2&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Request_to_fix_uw-paid1_and_uw-paid2|2019-07-17T14:00:00.000Z"></span>Request to fix uw-paid1 and uw-paid2<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Request_to_fix_uw-paid1_and_uw-paid2|2019-07-17T14:00:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|ToBeFree|2019-07-17T14:00:00.000Z|Request_to_fix_uw-paid1_and_uw-paid2"></span>Is there an easy way, perhaps a module or template, to add a "unregistered"/"registered" differentiation to {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Uw-paid1" title="Template:Uw-paid1">uw-paid1</a>}} and {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Uw-paid2" title="Template:Uw-paid2">uw-paid2</a>}}?
-</p><p>These important templates currently give wrong advice to IP editors; see <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Uw-paid1#&quot;User_page&quot;_disclosure_for_IP_addresses" title="Template talk:Uw-paid1">Template talk:Uw-paid1#"User page" disclosure for IP addresses</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ToBeFree" title="User:ToBeFree">~ ToBeFree</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ToBeFree" title="User talk:ToBeFree">talk</a>) 14:00, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ToBeFree|2019-07-17T14:00:00.000Z|Request_to_fix_uw-paid1_and_uw-paid2&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-07-17T18:36:00.000Z|ToBeFree|2019-07-17T14:00:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-17T14:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ToBeFree&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ToBeFree|2019-07-17T14:00:00.000Z|Request_to_fix_uw-paid1_and_uw-paid2"></span>
+</p><p>These important templates currently give wrong advice to IP editors; see <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Uw-paid1#&quot;User_page&quot;_disclosure_for_IP_addresses" title="Template talk:Uw-paid1">Template talk:Uw-paid1#"User page" disclosure for IP addresses</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ToBeFree" title="User:ToBeFree">~ ToBeFree</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ToBeFree" title="User talk:ToBeFree">talk</a>) 14:00, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ToBeFree|2019-07-17T14:00:00.000Z|Request_to_fix_uw-paid1_and_uw-paid2&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-07-17T18:36:00.000Z|ToBeFree|2019-07-17T14:00:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-17T14:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ToBeFree&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ToBeFree|2019-07-17T14:00:00.000Z|Request_to_fix_uw-paid1_and_uw-paid2"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ammarpad|2019-07-17T18:36:00.000Z|ToBeFree|2019-07-17T14:00:00.000Z"></span>I do not think those templates should be used to warn "IP addresses" as they're not meant for that. Paid editing is done with accounts that's why the disclosure is needed on userpages. If an IP address is persistently making promotional or suspicious editing, they should be reported to the appropriate noticeboard not be asked to disclose their client on their "IP userpage" which does not make sense. – <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ammarpad" title="User:Ammarpad">Ammarpad</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ammarpad" title="User talk:Ammarpad">talk</a>) 18:36, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-07-17T18:36:00.000Z|ToBeFree|2019-07-17T14:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-17T18:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ammarpad&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ammarpad|2019-07-17T18:36:00.000Z|ToBeFree|2019-07-17T14:00:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ammarpad|2019-07-17T18:36:00.000Z|ToBeFree|2019-07-17T14:00:00.000Z"></span>I do not think those templates should be used to warn "IP addresses" as they're not meant for that. Paid editing is done with accounts that's why the disclosure is needed on userpages. If an IP address is persistently making promotional or suspicious editing, they should be reported to the appropriate noticeboard not be asked to disclose their client on their "IP userpage" which does not make sense. – <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ammarpad" title="User:Ammarpad">Ammarpad</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ammarpad" title="User talk:Ammarpad">talk</a>) 18:36, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-07-17T18:36:00.000Z|ToBeFree|2019-07-17T14:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-17T18:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ammarpad&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ammarpad|2019-07-17T18:36:00.000Z|ToBeFree|2019-07-17T14:00:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
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 <div class="thumb tright"><div class="thumbinner" style="width:222px;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ancient_seven_wonders_timeline.svg" class="image"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Dweller|2019-07-17T11:33:00.000Z|Can't_edit_caption"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Ancient_seven_wonders_timeline.svg/220px-Ancient_seven_wonders_timeline.svg.png" decoding="async" width="220" height="264" class="thumbimage" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Ancient_seven_wonders_timeline.svg/330px-Ancient_seven_wonders_timeline.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Ancient_seven_wonders_timeline.svg/440px-Ancient_seven_wonders_timeline.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="614"/></a>  <div class="thumbcaption"><div class="magnify"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ancient_seven_wonders_timeline.svg" class="internal" title="Enlarge"></a></div>Timeline and map of the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Wonders_of_the_Ancient_World" title="Seven Wonders of the Ancient World">Seven Wonders of the Ancient World</a>, including the <i>Village pump (technical)/Archive 175</i></div></div></div>
 <p>Hi. In our <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus_of_Rhodes" title="Colossus of Rhodes">Colossus of Rhodes</a> article is a timeline/map of the 7 wonders, which inadvertently implies that there were 8 of them (by referring to the Colossus "and the other 7" wonders).
-</p><p>I cannot find this caption in the text of the page, nor at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ancient_seven_wonders_timeline.svg" title="File:Ancient seven wonders timeline.svg">File:Ancient seven wonders timeline.svg</a>. Where is it? --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dweller" title="User:Dweller">Dweller</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dweller" title="User talk:Dweller">talk</a>) <small>Become <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Old_Fashioned_Wikipedian_Values" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Old Fashioned Wikipedian Values">old fashioned!</a></small> 11:33, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Dweller|2019-07-17T11:33:00.000Z|Can't_edit_caption&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T11:38:00.000Z|Dweller|2019-07-17T11:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Beetstra|2019-07-17T13:26:00.000Z|Dweller|2019-07-17T11:33:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-17T11:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Dweller&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Dweller|2019-07-17T11:33:00.000Z|Can't_edit_caption"></span>
+</p><p>I cannot find this caption in the text of the page, nor at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ancient_seven_wonders_timeline.svg" title="File:Ancient seven wonders timeline.svg">File:Ancient seven wonders timeline.svg</a>. Where is it? --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dweller" title="User:Dweller">Dweller</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dweller" title="User talk:Dweller">talk</a>) <small>Become <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Old_Fashioned_Wikipedian_Values" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Old Fashioned Wikipedian Values">old fashioned!</a></small> 11:33, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Dweller|2019-07-17T11:33:00.000Z|Can't_edit_caption&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T11:38:00.000Z|Dweller|2019-07-17T11:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Beetstra|2019-07-17T13:26:00.000Z|Dweller|2019-07-17T11:33:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-17T11:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Dweller&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Dweller|2019-07-17T11:33:00.000Z|Can't_edit_caption"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T11:38:00.000Z|Dweller|2019-07-17T11:33:00.000Z"></span>The image is called as a template <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Ancient_seven_wonders_timeline.svg" title="Template:Ancient seven wonders timeline.svg">Template:Ancient seven wonders timeline.svg</a>. The wording is generated from the title of the page using it, and that in the template. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 11:38, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T11:38:00.000Z|Dweller|2019-07-17T11:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Dweller|2019-07-17T11:47:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T11:38:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-17T11:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T11:38:00.000Z|Dweller|2019-07-17T11:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Dweller|2019-07-17T11:47:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T11:38:00.000Z"></span>Ahhhh! Thanks. Fixed it. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dweller" title="User:Dweller">Dweller</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dweller" title="User talk:Dweller">talk</a>) <small>Become <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Old_Fashioned_Wikipedian_Values" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Old Fashioned Wikipedian Values">old fashioned!</a></small> 11:47, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Dweller|2019-07-17T11:47:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T11:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T11:56:00.000Z|Dweller|2019-07-17T11:47:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-17T11:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Dweller&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Dweller|2019-07-17T11:47:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T11:38:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T11:56:00.000Z|Dweller|2019-07-17T11:47:00.000Z"></span>Glad to have helped. The curly brackets were the clew. {{This is a template, not a file}} <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 11:56, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T11:56:00.000Z|Dweller|2019-07-17T11:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Dweller|2019-07-17T12:50:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T11:56:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-17T11:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T11:56:00.000Z|Dweller|2019-07-17T11:47:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Dweller|2019-07-17T12:50:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T11:56:00.000Z"></span>I missed that, because I'm a <strike>newbie</strike> technical buffoon. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dweller" title="User:Dweller">Dweller</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dweller" title="User talk:Dweller">talk</a>) <small>Become <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Old_Fashioned_Wikipedian_Values" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Old Fashioned Wikipedian Values">old fashioned!</a></small> 12:50, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Dweller|2019-07-17T12:50:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T11:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-17T13:49:00.000Z|Dweller|2019-07-17T12:50:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-17T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Dweller&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Dweller|2019-07-17T12:50:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T11:56:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-17T13:49:00.000Z|Dweller|2019-07-17T12:50:00.000Z"></span>In your defense, it's a little confusing to include ".svg" in the template name. A <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&amp;limit=100&amp;offset=0&amp;ns10=1&amp;search=intitle%3A%22svg%22+intitle%3A%2F%5C.svg%2F&amp;advancedSearch-current=%7B%7D">search</a> finds around 50 such templates. All the examined were created by <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cmglee" title="User:Cmglee">Cmglee</a>. A few of them have been moved to avoid confusion, e.g. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Largest_airline_alliances.svg&amp;action=history">[20]</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 13:49, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-17T13:49:00.000Z|Dweller|2019-07-17T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Cmglee|2019-07-18T17:07:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-17T13:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Dweller|2019-07-17T14:20:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-17T13:49:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-17T13:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-17T13:49:00.000Z|Dweller|2019-07-17T12:50:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Cmglee|2019-07-18T17:07:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-17T13:49:00.000Z"></span>Hi <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a>,</span> Apologies for confusing editors with the extension. I think having it is useful as it informs editors that, unlike other templates, it's purely an image thumbnail. Furthermore, it gives the image type (extension). Finally, the exact filename of the image is there, should anyone want to go directly to the image page. Thanks for helping out <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dweller" title="User:Dweller">Dweller</a>, regardless. <b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cmglee" title="User:Cmglee">cmɢʟee</a></b>⎆<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cmglee" title="User talk:Cmglee">τaʟκ</a> 17:07, 18 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Cmglee|2019-07-18T17:07:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-17T13:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-18T17:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Cmglee&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Cmglee|2019-07-18T17:07:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-17T13:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Dweller|2019-07-17T14:20:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-17T13:49:00.000Z"></span>My ego thanks you for giving it a nice excuse. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dweller" title="User:Dweller">Dweller</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dweller" title="User talk:Dweller">talk</a>) <small>Become <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Old_Fashioned_Wikipedian_Values" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Old Fashioned Wikipedian Values">old fashioned!</a></small> 14:20, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Dweller|2019-07-17T14:20:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-17T13:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-17T14:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Dweller&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Dweller|2019-07-17T14:20:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-17T13:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Beetstra|2019-07-17T13:26:00.000Z|Dweller|2019-07-17T11:33:00.000Z"></span>--> the caption on the image on the right here is hilarious.  --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Beetstra" title="User:Beetstra">Dirk Beetstra</a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Beetstra" title="User talk:Beetstra"><span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Beetstra" title="Special:Contributions/Beetstra"><span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span></a></sup> 13:26, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Beetstra|2019-07-17T13:26:00.000Z|Dweller|2019-07-17T11:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Dweller|2019-07-17T13:44:00.000Z|Beetstra|2019-07-17T13:26:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-17T13:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Beetstra&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Beetstra|2019-07-17T13:26:00.000Z|Dweller|2019-07-17T11:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Dweller|2019-07-17T13:44:00.000Z|Beetstra|2019-07-17T13:26:00.000Z"></span>I'm so bad with tech, I feel like a wonder of the ancient world myself --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dweller" title="User:Dweller">Dweller</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dweller" title="User talk:Dweller">talk</a>) <small>Become <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Old_Fashioned_Wikipedian_Values" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Old Fashioned Wikipedian Values">old fashioned!</a></small> 13:44, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Dweller|2019-07-17T13:44:00.000Z|Beetstra|2019-07-17T13:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T13:48:00.000Z|Dweller|2019-07-17T13:44:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-17T13:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Dweller&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Dweller|2019-07-17T13:44:00.000Z|Beetstra|2019-07-17T13:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T13:48:00.000Z|Dweller|2019-07-17T13:44:00.000Z"></span>Put the template on your userpage then! <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 13:48, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T13:48:00.000Z|Dweller|2019-07-17T13:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Dweller|2019-07-17T14:25:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T13:48:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-17T13:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T13:48:00.000Z|Dweller|2019-07-17T13:44:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Dweller|2019-07-17T14:25:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T13:48:00.000Z"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/27px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/36px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> <b>Done</b> --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dweller" title="User:Dweller">Dweller</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dweller" title="User talk:Dweller">talk</a>) <small>Become <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Old_Fashioned_Wikipedian_Values" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Old Fashioned Wikipedian Values">old fashioned!</a></small> 14:25, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Dweller|2019-07-17T14:25:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T13:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-17T14:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Dweller&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Dweller|2019-07-17T14:25:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T13:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T11:38:00.000Z|Dweller|2019-07-17T11:33:00.000Z"></span>The image is called as a template <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Ancient_seven_wonders_timeline.svg" title="Template:Ancient seven wonders timeline.svg">Template:Ancient seven wonders timeline.svg</a>. The wording is generated from the title of the page using it, and that in the template. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 11:38, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T11:38:00.000Z|Dweller|2019-07-17T11:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Dweller|2019-07-17T11:47:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T11:38:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-17T11:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T11:38:00.000Z|Dweller|2019-07-17T11:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Dweller|2019-07-17T11:47:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T11:38:00.000Z"></span>Ahhhh! Thanks. Fixed it. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dweller" title="User:Dweller">Dweller</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dweller" title="User talk:Dweller">talk</a>) <small>Become <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Old_Fashioned_Wikipedian_Values" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Old Fashioned Wikipedian Values">old fashioned!</a></small> 11:47, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Dweller|2019-07-17T11:47:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T11:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T11:56:00.000Z|Dweller|2019-07-17T11:47:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-17T11:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Dweller&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Dweller|2019-07-17T11:47:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T11:38:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T11:56:00.000Z|Dweller|2019-07-17T11:47:00.000Z"></span>Glad to have helped. The curly brackets were the clew. {{This is a template, not a file}} <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 11:56, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T11:56:00.000Z|Dweller|2019-07-17T11:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Dweller|2019-07-17T12:50:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T11:56:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-17T11:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T11:56:00.000Z|Dweller|2019-07-17T11:47:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Dweller|2019-07-17T12:50:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T11:56:00.000Z"></span>I missed that, because I'm a <strike>newbie</strike> technical buffoon. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dweller" title="User:Dweller">Dweller</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dweller" title="User talk:Dweller">talk</a>) <small>Become <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Old_Fashioned_Wikipedian_Values" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Old Fashioned Wikipedian Values">old fashioned!</a></small> 12:50, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Dweller|2019-07-17T12:50:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T11:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-17T13:49:00.000Z|Dweller|2019-07-17T12:50:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-17T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Dweller&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Dweller|2019-07-17T12:50:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T11:56:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-17T13:49:00.000Z|Dweller|2019-07-17T12:50:00.000Z"></span>In your defense, it's a little confusing to include ".svg" in the template name. A <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&amp;limit=100&amp;offset=0&amp;ns10=1&amp;search=intitle%3A%22svg%22+intitle%3A%2F%5C.svg%2F&amp;advancedSearch-current=%7B%7D">search</a> finds around 50 such templates. All the examined were created by <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cmglee" title="User:Cmglee">Cmglee</a>. A few of them have been moved to avoid confusion, e.g. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Largest_airline_alliances.svg&amp;action=history">[20]</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 13:49, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-17T13:49:00.000Z|Dweller|2019-07-17T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Cmglee|2019-07-18T17:07:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-17T13:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Dweller|2019-07-17T14:20:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-17T13:49:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-17T13:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-17T13:49:00.000Z|Dweller|2019-07-17T12:50:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Cmglee|2019-07-18T17:07:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-17T13:49:00.000Z"></span>Hi <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a>,</span> Apologies for confusing editors with the extension. I think having it is useful as it informs editors that, unlike other templates, it's purely an image thumbnail. Furthermore, it gives the image type (extension). Finally, the exact filename of the image is there, should anyone want to go directly to the image page. Thanks for helping out <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dweller" title="User:Dweller">Dweller</a>, regardless. <b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cmglee" title="User:Cmglee">cmɢʟee</a></b>⎆<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cmglee" title="User talk:Cmglee">τaʟκ</a> 17:07, 18 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Cmglee|2019-07-18T17:07:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-17T13:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-18T17:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Cmglee&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Cmglee|2019-07-18T17:07:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-17T13:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Dweller|2019-07-17T14:20:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-17T13:49:00.000Z"></span>My ego thanks you for giving it a nice excuse. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dweller" title="User:Dweller">Dweller</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dweller" title="User talk:Dweller">talk</a>) <small>Become <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Old_Fashioned_Wikipedian_Values" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Old Fashioned Wikipedian Values">old fashioned!</a></small> 14:20, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Dweller|2019-07-17T14:20:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-17T13:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-17T14:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Dweller&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Dweller|2019-07-17T14:20:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-17T13:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Beetstra|2019-07-17T13:26:00.000Z|Dweller|2019-07-17T11:33:00.000Z"></span>--> the caption on the image on the right here is hilarious.  --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Beetstra" title="User:Beetstra">Dirk Beetstra</a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Beetstra" title="User talk:Beetstra"><span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Beetstra" title="Special:Contributions/Beetstra"><span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span></a></sup> 13:26, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Beetstra|2019-07-17T13:26:00.000Z|Dweller|2019-07-17T11:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Dweller|2019-07-17T13:44:00.000Z|Beetstra|2019-07-17T13:26:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-17T13:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Beetstra&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Beetstra|2019-07-17T13:26:00.000Z|Dweller|2019-07-17T11:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Dweller|2019-07-17T13:44:00.000Z|Beetstra|2019-07-17T13:26:00.000Z"></span>I'm so bad with tech, I feel like a wonder of the ancient world myself --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dweller" title="User:Dweller">Dweller</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dweller" title="User talk:Dweller">talk</a>) <small>Become <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Old_Fashioned_Wikipedian_Values" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Old Fashioned Wikipedian Values">old fashioned!</a></small> 13:44, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Dweller|2019-07-17T13:44:00.000Z|Beetstra|2019-07-17T13:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T13:48:00.000Z|Dweller|2019-07-17T13:44:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-17T13:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Dweller&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Dweller|2019-07-17T13:44:00.000Z|Beetstra|2019-07-17T13:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T13:48:00.000Z|Dweller|2019-07-17T13:44:00.000Z"></span>Put the template on your userpage then! <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 13:48, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T13:48:00.000Z|Dweller|2019-07-17T13:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Dweller|2019-07-17T14:25:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T13:48:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-17T13:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T13:48:00.000Z|Dweller|2019-07-17T13:44:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Dweller|2019-07-17T14:25:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T13:48:00.000Z"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/27px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/36px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> <b>Done</b> --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dweller" title="User:Dweller">Dweller</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dweller" title="User talk:Dweller">talk</a>) <small>Become <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Old_Fashioned_Wikipedian_Values" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Old Fashioned Wikipedian Values">old fashioned!</a></small> 14:25, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Dweller|2019-07-17T14:25:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T13:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-17T14:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Dweller&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Dweller|2019-07-17T14:25:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-17T13:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id="Edit_filter_to_address_Visual_Editor_bug_.28or_common_user_error.29"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Edit_filter_to_address_Visual_Editor_bug_(or_common_user_error)" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Edit_filter_to_address_Visual_Editor_bug_(or_common_user_error)|2019-07-17T18:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Rhododendrites|2019-07-17T18:25:00.000Z|Edit_filter_to_address_Visual_Editor_bug_(or_common_user_error)&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Edit_filter_to_address_Visual_Editor_bug_(or_common_user_error)|2019-07-17T18:25:00.000Z"></span>Edit filter to address Visual Editor bug (or common user error)<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Edit_filter_to_address_Visual_Editor_bug_(or_common_user_error)|2019-07-17T18:25:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Rhododendrites|2019-07-17T18:25:00.000Z|Edit_filter_to_address_Visual_Editor_bug_(or_common_user_error)"></span>When a user drafts content with references in a sandbox, if using the Visual Editor it is necessary to enter edit mode before copying in order to retain the references. If the user doesn't copy from edit mode, the superscript links will be retained, but they will be links back to the original page (where the footnote anchor would be) without the reference itself. You can see an example of this in my sandbox:
 </p><p><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Rhododendrites/sandbox&amp;oldid=906711966">This sandbox</a> shows the first paragraph from the body of <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia" title="Wikipedia">Wikipedia</a> copied from edit mode.
 </p><p><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Rhododendrites/sandbox1&amp;oldid=906712275">This sandbox</a> shows the same paragraph copied without entering edit mode.
-</p><p>It would be useful to have an edit filter or some other way to indicate when this happens. This is something I always tell new users, but which people very regularly forget about, just to introduce improperly formatted content into an article when trying to copy out of a sandbox. It seems like this could be easily detected by looking for superscript tags around a link to a different page. (Another common sign this happened is that "[edit]" appears inside a heading). Ideally, this would notify the user when they try to save, but an edit filter could be useful, too. — <samp><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rhododendrites" title="User:Rhododendrites"><span style="font-size:90%;letter-spacing:1px;text-shadow:0px -1px 0px Indigo;">Rhododendrites</span></a> <sup style="font-size:80%;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rhododendrites" title="User talk:Rhododendrites">talk</a></sup></samp> \\ 18:25, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Rhododendrites|2019-07-17T18:25:00.000Z|Edit_filter_to_address_Visual_Editor_bug_(or_common_user_error)&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-18T17:19:00.000Z|Rhododendrites|2019-07-17T18:25:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-17T18:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Rhododendrites&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Rhododendrites|2019-07-17T18:25:00.000Z|Edit_filter_to_address_Visual_Editor_bug_(or_common_user_error)"></span>
+</p><p>It would be useful to have an edit filter or some other way to indicate when this happens. This is something I always tell new users, but which people very regularly forget about, just to introduce improperly formatted content into an article when trying to copy out of a sandbox. It seems like this could be easily detected by looking for superscript tags around a link to a different page. (Another common sign this happened is that "[edit]" appears inside a heading). Ideally, this would notify the user when they try to save, but an edit filter could be useful, too. — <samp><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rhododendrites" title="User:Rhododendrites"><span style="font-size:90%;letter-spacing:1px;text-shadow:0px -1px 0px Indigo;">Rhododendrites</span></a> <sup style="font-size:80%;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rhododendrites" title="User talk:Rhododendrites">talk</a></sup></samp> \\ 18:25, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Rhododendrites|2019-07-17T18:25:00.000Z|Edit_filter_to_address_Visual_Editor_bug_(or_common_user_error)&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-18T17:19:00.000Z|Rhododendrites|2019-07-17T18:25:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-17T18:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Rhododendrites&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Rhododendrites|2019-07-17T18:25:00.000Z|Edit_filter_to_address_Visual_Editor_bug_(or_common_user_error)"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-18T17:19:00.000Z|Rhododendrites|2019-07-17T18:25:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rhododendrites" title="User:Rhododendrites">Rhododendrites</a>:</span> I suggest you move this to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_filter/Requested" title="Wikipedia:Edit filter/Requested">Wikipedia:Edit filter/Requested</a> - where the volunteers that write filters can better asses it.  It is possible to just make a "warn" filter as well. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 17:19, 18 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-18T17:19:00.000Z|Rhododendrites|2019-07-17T18:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-18T17:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-18T17:19:00.000Z|Rhododendrites|2019-07-17T18:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-18T17:19:00.000Z|Rhododendrites|2019-07-17T18:25:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rhododendrites" title="User:Rhododendrites">Rhododendrites</a>:</span> I suggest you move this to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_filter/Requested" title="Wikipedia:Edit filter/Requested">Wikipedia:Edit filter/Requested</a> - where the volunteers that write filters can better asses it.  It is possible to just make a "warn" filter as well. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 17:19, 18 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-18T17:19:00.000Z|Rhododendrites|2019-07-17T18:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-18T17:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-18T17:19:00.000Z|Rhododendrites|2019-07-17T18:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Obsuser|2019-07-18T21:58:00.000Z|Template_transclusion_check_down"></span>Is it only for me or it is down? <a class="external text" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/templatetransclusioncheck/index.php?lang=sr">Here</a> I get errors, and when trying to change language too. Please ping me, I don't want this page in watchlist because there are many changes... --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Obsuser" title="User:Obsuser">Obsuser</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Obsuser" title="User talk:Obsuser">talk</a>) 21:58, 18 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Obsuser|2019-07-18T21:58:00.000Z|Template_transclusion_check_down&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-18T21:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Obsuser&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Obsuser|2019-07-18T21:58:00.000Z|Template_transclusion_check_down"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Obsuser|2019-07-18T21:58:00.000Z|Template_transclusion_check_down"></span>Is it only for me or it is down? <a class="external text" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/templatetransclusioncheck/index.php?lang=sr">Here</a> I get errors, and when trying to change language too. Please ping me, I don't want this page in watchlist because there are many changes... --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Obsuser" title="User:Obsuser">Obsuser</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Obsuser" title="User talk:Obsuser">talk</a>) 21:58, 18 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Obsuser|2019-07-18T21:58:00.000Z|Template_transclusion_check_down&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-18T21:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Obsuser&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Obsuser|2019-07-18T21:58:00.000Z|Template_transclusion_check_down"></span>
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 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Replacement_of_character_references_with_actual_characters" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Replacement_of_character_references_with_actual_characters|2019-07-18T21:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-18T21:50:00.000Z|Replacement_of_character_references_with_actual_characters&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Replacement_of_character_references_with_actual_characters|2019-07-18T21:50:00.000Z"></span>Replacement of character references with actual characters<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Replacement_of_character_references_with_actual_characters|2019-07-18T21:50:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Beland" title="User:Beland"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-07-18T21:50:00.000Z|Replacement_of_character_references_with_actual_characters"></span>Beland</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Beland" title="User talk:Beland">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Beland" title="Special:Contributions/Beland">contribs</a>) has been replacing HTML character references with the actual characters they represent, using <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:JWB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:JWB">JWB</a>. Is there a consensus or justification for this?
-</p><p>The replacements are concerning to me especially given they include characters in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_Use_Areas" title="Private Use Areas">Private Use Areas</a>, which IMHO are best left as references (frankly I don't think they should ever be used in articles in the first place, but still). And even if it was justified, wouldn't it fall under <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:COSMETICBOT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COSMETICBOT">WP:COSMETICBOT</a>? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 21:50, 18 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-18T21:50:00.000Z|Replacement_of_character_references_with_actual_characters&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Beland|2019-07-18T23:14:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-18T21:50:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-18T21:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-07-18T21:50:00.000Z|Replacement_of_character_references_with_actual_characters"></span>
+</p><p>The replacements are concerning to me especially given they include characters in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_Use_Areas" title="Private Use Areas">Private Use Areas</a>, which IMHO are best left as references (frankly I don't think they should ever be used in articles in the first place, but still). And even if it was justified, wouldn't it fall under <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:COSMETICBOT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COSMETICBOT">WP:COSMETICBOT</a>? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 21:50, 18 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-18T21:50:00.000Z|Replacement_of_character_references_with_actual_characters&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Beland|2019-07-18T23:14:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-18T21:50:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-18T21:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-07-18T21:50:00.000Z|Replacement_of_character_references_with_actual_characters"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Beland|2019-07-18T23:14:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-18T21:50:00.000Z"></span>Greetings! I was actually wondering whether I should be keeping Private Use Area HTML entities as they are. In my browser, I can see the Unicode point number of characters I don't have fonts for, but I'm not sure about other editors. This began as part of a spell checking and Manual of Style compliance project. I'm trying to bundle HTML entity cleanup with any punctuation cleanup on the same articles, so there aren't a bunch of minor commits. Right now I'm working on a list of only about 5,000 articles; in some cases, the HTML entities represent breakage so there's reader-visible cleanup to do, but you're right it's often only editor-visible. I've been getting occasional thanks for the entity cleanup, though; where done right it makes the wikitext a lot more readable, especially to editors who don't know HTML. (For example, café is a lot easier to read and edit than caf&amp;#xC9;.) I had a conversation with some MOS editors before starting this, and there was a strong consensus in favor of converting numeric HTML entities where possible, unless the result would be confusing, and I made a list of confusing situations to exclude. Unfortunately, Unicode is a huge place and no one thought about potential problems with combining characters (I'm leaving those alone after editors on some Arabic-langugage-related pages rightfully complained) or the private use area or a handful of other things where I'm trying to building bottom-up consensus. I'm leaning toward PUA characters being too confusing to convert, so I'll add them to my exclusion list unless someone here would much rather see real characters than numeric entities? Ah, I see <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:PUA" title="Template:PUA">Template:PUA</a> actually says not to convert them; that's also a page that will probably give a comprehensive list of articles they are used in, if anyone wants to go around pruning any unnecessary ones. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Beland" title="User:Beland">Beland</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Beland" title="User talk:Beland">talk</a>) 23:14, 18 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Beland|2019-07-18T23:14:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-18T21:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-18T23:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Beland&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Beland|2019-07-18T23:14:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-18T21:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Beland|2019-07-18T23:14:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-18T21:50:00.000Z"></span>Greetings! I was actually wondering whether I should be keeping Private Use Area HTML entities as they are. In my browser, I can see the Unicode point number of characters I don't have fonts for, but I'm not sure about other editors. This began as part of a spell checking and Manual of Style compliance project. I'm trying to bundle HTML entity cleanup with any punctuation cleanup on the same articles, so there aren't a bunch of minor commits. Right now I'm working on a list of only about 5,000 articles; in some cases, the HTML entities represent breakage so there's reader-visible cleanup to do, but you're right it's often only editor-visible. I've been getting occasional thanks for the entity cleanup, though; where done right it makes the wikitext a lot more readable, especially to editors who don't know HTML. (For example, café is a lot easier to read and edit than caf&amp;#xC9;.) I had a conversation with some MOS editors before starting this, and there was a strong consensus in favor of converting numeric HTML entities where possible, unless the result would be confusing, and I made a list of confusing situations to exclude. Unfortunately, Unicode is a huge place and no one thought about potential problems with combining characters (I'm leaving those alone after editors on some Arabic-langugage-related pages rightfully complained) or the private use area or a handful of other things where I'm trying to building bottom-up consensus. I'm leaning toward PUA characters being too confusing to convert, so I'll add them to my exclusion list unless someone here would much rather see real characters than numeric entities? Ah, I see <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:PUA" title="Template:PUA">Template:PUA</a> actually says not to convert them; that's also a page that will probably give a comprehensive list of articles they are used in, if anyone wants to go around pruning any unnecessary ones. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Beland" title="User:Beland">Beland</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Beland" title="User talk:Beland">talk</a>) 23:14, 18 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Beland|2019-07-18T23:14:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-18T21:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-18T23:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Beland&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Beland|2019-07-18T23:14:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-18T21:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Phantom_edit:_notifications_and_watchlist_not_updating" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Phantom_edit:_notifications_and_watchlist_not_updating|2019-07-18T18:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|ComplexRational|2019-07-18T18:58:00.000Z|Phantom_edit:_notifications_and_watchlist_not_updating&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Phantom_edit:_notifications_and_watchlist_not_updating|2019-07-18T18:58:00.000Z"></span>Phantom edit: notifications and watchlist not updating<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Phantom_edit:_notifications_and_watchlist_not_updating|2019-07-18T18:58:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|ComplexRational|2019-07-18T18:58:00.000Z|Phantom_edit:_notifications_and_watchlist_not_updating"></span>Greetings, I just discovered that an edit to a page I have watchlisted (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/906832193" title="Special:Diff/906832193">Special:Diff/906832193</a>) is apparently a phantom, as it did not appear on my watchlist and the ping did not trigger a notification. I already checked that the ping was done correctly, my preferences enable me to be notified by said ping, and that the page is indeed on my watchlist. Also, my watchlist has updates later than this edit, and I got notifications as recently as yesterday and have not knowingly changed any settings since. None of this explains the conspicuous absence of this edit from both my watchlist and notifications.
-</p><p>I therefore ask: has anyone else experienced such a problem, and is there a solution that either I have overlooked or can be implemented by a "reset" of preferences? Thanks, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ComplexRational" title="User:ComplexRational">ComplexRational</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational" title="User talk:ComplexRational">talk</a>) 18:58, 18 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ComplexRational|2019-07-18T18:58:00.000Z|Phantom_edit:_notifications_and_watchlist_not_updating&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|ComplexRational|2019-07-18T19:43:00.000Z|ComplexRational|2019-07-18T18:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Legoktm|2019-07-19T07:23:00.000Z|ComplexRational|2019-07-18T18:58:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-18T18:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ComplexRational&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ComplexRational|2019-07-18T18:58:00.000Z|Phantom_edit:_notifications_and_watchlist_not_updating"></span>
+</p><p>I therefore ask: has anyone else experienced such a problem, and is there a solution that either I have overlooked or can be implemented by a "reset" of preferences? Thanks, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ComplexRational" title="User:ComplexRational">ComplexRational</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational" title="User talk:ComplexRational">talk</a>) 18:58, 18 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ComplexRational|2019-07-18T18:58:00.000Z|Phantom_edit:_notifications_and_watchlist_not_updating&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|ComplexRational|2019-07-18T19:43:00.000Z|ComplexRational|2019-07-18T18:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Legoktm|2019-07-19T07:23:00.000Z|ComplexRational|2019-07-18T18:58:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-18T18:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ComplexRational&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ComplexRational|2019-07-18T18:58:00.000Z|Phantom_edit:_notifications_and_watchlist_not_updating"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|ComplexRational|2019-07-18T19:43:00.000Z|ComplexRational|2019-07-18T18:58:00.000Z"></span>Addendum: The edit in question is also not listed in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChangesLinked/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Elements/Lists_of_pages/All_project_pages" title="Special:RecentChangesLinked/Wikipedia:WikiProject Elements/Lists of pages/All project pages">the project's recent changes feed</a>, probably suggesting that the problem is not on my end. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ComplexRational" title="User:ComplexRational">ComplexRational</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational" title="User talk:ComplexRational">talk</a>) 19:43, 18 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ComplexRational|2019-07-18T19:43:00.000Z|ComplexRational|2019-07-18T18:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-07-19T05:05:00.000Z|ComplexRational|2019-07-18T19:43:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-18T19:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ComplexRational&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ComplexRational|2019-07-18T19:43:00.000Z|ComplexRational|2019-07-18T18:58:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ammarpad|2019-07-19T05:05:00.000Z|ComplexRational|2019-07-18T19:43:00.000Z"></span>For the watchlist, I believe it is the same issue that was resolved earlier in January at <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211849" class="extiw" title="phab:T211849">phab:T211849</a>, but I believe it still occur sporadically. I've experienced that some weeks ago but didn't have time to report the issue. You can report it again.  For the ping, I am not sure why it didn't work. – <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ammarpad" title="User:Ammarpad">Ammarpad</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ammarpad" title="User talk:Ammarpad">talk</a>) 05:05, 19 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-07-19T05:05:00.000Z|ComplexRational|2019-07-18T19:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-19T05:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ammarpad&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ammarpad|2019-07-19T05:05:00.000Z|ComplexRational|2019-07-18T19:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Legoktm|2019-07-19T07:23:00.000Z|ComplexRational|2019-07-18T18:58:00.000Z"></span>What you're describing sounds like <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T225199" class="extiw" title="phab:T225199">phab:T225199</a>. I'm looking into it. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Legoktm" title="User:Legoktm">Legoktm</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Legoktm" title="User talk:Legoktm">talk</a>) 07:23, 19 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Legoktm|2019-07-19T07:23:00.000Z|ComplexRational|2019-07-18T18:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-19T07:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Legoktm&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Legoktm|2019-07-19T07:23:00.000Z|ComplexRational|2019-07-18T18:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|ComplexRational|2019-07-18T19:43:00.000Z|ComplexRational|2019-07-18T18:58:00.000Z"></span>Addendum: The edit in question is also not listed in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChangesLinked/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Elements/Lists_of_pages/All_project_pages" title="Special:RecentChangesLinked/Wikipedia:WikiProject Elements/Lists of pages/All project pages">the project's recent changes feed</a>, probably suggesting that the problem is not on my end. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ComplexRational" title="User:ComplexRational">ComplexRational</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ComplexRational" title="User talk:ComplexRational">talk</a>) 19:43, 18 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ComplexRational|2019-07-18T19:43:00.000Z|ComplexRational|2019-07-18T18:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-07-19T05:05:00.000Z|ComplexRational|2019-07-18T19:43:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-18T19:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ComplexRational&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ComplexRational|2019-07-18T19:43:00.000Z|ComplexRational|2019-07-18T18:58:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ammarpad|2019-07-19T05:05:00.000Z|ComplexRational|2019-07-18T19:43:00.000Z"></span>For the watchlist, I believe it is the same issue that was resolved earlier in January at <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211849" class="extiw" title="phab:T211849">phab:T211849</a>, but I believe it still occur sporadically. I've experienced that some weeks ago but didn't have time to report the issue. You can report it again.  For the ping, I am not sure why it didn't work. – <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ammarpad" title="User:Ammarpad">Ammarpad</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ammarpad" title="User talk:Ammarpad">talk</a>) 05:05, 19 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-07-19T05:05:00.000Z|ComplexRational|2019-07-18T19:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-19T05:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ammarpad&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ammarpad|2019-07-19T05:05:00.000Z|ComplexRational|2019-07-18T19:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Legoktm|2019-07-19T07:23:00.000Z|ComplexRational|2019-07-18T18:58:00.000Z"></span>What you're describing sounds like <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T225199" class="extiw" title="phab:T225199">phab:T225199</a>. I'm looking into it. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Legoktm" title="User:Legoktm">Legoktm</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Legoktm" title="User talk:Legoktm">talk</a>) 07:23, 19 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Legoktm|2019-07-19T07:23:00.000Z|ComplexRational|2019-07-18T18:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-19T07:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Legoktm&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Legoktm|2019-07-19T07:23:00.000Z|ComplexRational|2019-07-18T18:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="If_you_wonder_how_the_servers_work" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|If_you_wonder_how_the_servers_work|2019-07-16T01:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-16T01:11:00.000Z|If_you_wonder_how_the_servers_work&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|If_you_wonder_how_the_servers_work|2019-07-16T01:11:00.000Z"></span>If you wonder how the servers work<span data-mw-comment-end="h|If_you_wonder_how_the_servers_work|2019-07-16T01:11:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <div class="floatright"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Computer-kitten.jpg" class="image"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-16T01:11:00.000Z|If_you_wonder_how_the_servers_work"></span><img alt="Computer-kitten.jpg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Computer-kitten.jpg/300px-Computer-kitten.jpg" decoding="async" width="300" height="225" class="thumbborder" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Computer-kitten.jpg/450px-Computer-kitten.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Computer-kitten.jpg/600px-Computer-kitten.jpg 2x" data-file-width="1280" data-file-height="960"/></a></div>
-<p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0FTcG7PxzI">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0FTcG7PxzI</a> has some information about how code gets deployed, if anyone's interested in learning more about Wikipedia's back end.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Whatamidoing_(WMF)" title="User:Whatamidoing (WMF)">Whatamidoing (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Whatamidoing_(WMF)" title="User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF)">talk</a>) 01:11, 16 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-16T01:11:00.000Z|If_you_wonder_how_the_servers_work&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Someguy1221|2019-07-16T01:20:00.000Z|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-16T01:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|SD0001|2019-07-20T18:42:00.000Z|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-16T01:11:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-16T01:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Whatamidoing (WMF)&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-16T01:11:00.000Z|If_you_wonder_how_the_servers_work"></span>
+<p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0FTcG7PxzI">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0FTcG7PxzI</a> has some information about how code gets deployed, if anyone's interested in learning more about Wikipedia's back end.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Whatamidoing_(WMF)" title="User:Whatamidoing (WMF)">Whatamidoing (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Whatamidoing_(WMF)" title="User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF)">talk</a>) 01:11, 16 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-16T01:11:00.000Z|If_you_wonder_how_the_servers_work&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Someguy1221|2019-07-16T01:20:00.000Z|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-16T01:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|SD0001|2019-07-20T18:42:00.000Z|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-16T01:11:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-16T01:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Whatamidoing (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-16T01:11:00.000Z|If_you_wonder_how_the_servers_work"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Someguy1221|2019-07-16T01:20:00.000Z|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-16T01:11:00.000Z"></span>I'm honestly just a little disappointed the video actually had information on how code gets deployed, rather than footage of hamsters running over a keyboard. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Someguy1221" title="User:Someguy1221">Someguy1221</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Someguy1221" title="User talk:Someguy1221">talk</a>) 01:20, 16 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Someguy1221|2019-07-16T01:20:00.000Z|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-16T01:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-16T01:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Someguy1221&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Someguy1221|2019-07-16T01:20:00.000Z|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-16T01:11:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SD0001|2019-07-20T18:42:00.000Z|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-16T01:11:00.000Z"></span>Nice! <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SD0001" title="User:SD0001">SD0001</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SD0001" title="User talk:SD0001">talk</a>) 18:42, 20 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SD0001|2019-07-20T18:42:00.000Z|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-16T01:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-20T18:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SD0001&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SD0001|2019-07-20T18:42:00.000Z|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-16T01:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Someguy1221|2019-07-16T01:20:00.000Z|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-16T01:11:00.000Z"></span>I'm honestly just a little disappointed the video actually had information on how code gets deployed, rather than footage of hamsters running over a keyboard. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Someguy1221" title="User:Someguy1221">Someguy1221</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Someguy1221" title="User talk:Someguy1221">talk</a>) 01:20, 16 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Someguy1221|2019-07-16T01:20:00.000Z|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-16T01:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-16T01:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Someguy1221&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Someguy1221|2019-07-16T01:20:00.000Z|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-16T01:11:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SD0001|2019-07-20T18:42:00.000Z|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-16T01:11:00.000Z"></span>Nice! <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SD0001" title="User:SD0001">SD0001</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SD0001" title="User talk:SD0001">talk</a>) 18:42, 20 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SD0001|2019-07-20T18:42:00.000Z|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-16T01:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-20T18:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SD0001&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SD0001|2019-07-20T18:42:00.000Z|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-07-16T01:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="File_Upload_Wizard_bug" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|File_Upload_Wizard_bug|2019-07-20T00:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|LaundryPizza03|2019-07-20T00:30:00.000Z|File_Upload_Wizard_bug&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|File_Upload_Wizard_bug|2019-07-20T00:30:00.000Z"></span>File Upload Wizard bug<span data-mw-comment-end="h|File_Upload_Wizard_bug|2019-07-20T00:30:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|LaundryPizza03|2019-07-20T00:30:00.000Z|File_Upload_Wizard_bug"></span>In the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:File_Upload_Wizard" title="Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard">File Upload Wizard</a>, the radio boxes in Step 3 are invisible on my system. –<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:LaundryPizza03" title="User:LaundryPizza03"><b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:LaundryPizza03" title="User talk:LaundryPizza03"><span style="color:#0d0">d</span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/LaundryPizza03" title="Special:Contributions/LaundryPizza03"><span style="color:#0bf">c̄</span></a>) 00:30, 20 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|LaundryPizza03|2019-07-20T00:30:00.000Z|File_Upload_Wizard_bug&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ruslik0|2019-07-21T08:27:00.000Z|LaundryPizza03|2019-07-20T00:30:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-20T00:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;LaundryPizza03&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|LaundryPizza03|2019-07-20T00:30:00.000Z|File_Upload_Wizard_bug"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|LaundryPizza03|2019-07-20T00:30:00.000Z|File_Upload_Wizard_bug"></span>In the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:File_Upload_Wizard" title="Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard">File Upload Wizard</a>, the radio boxes in Step 3 are invisible on my system. –<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:LaundryPizza03" title="User:LaundryPizza03"><b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:LaundryPizza03" title="User talk:LaundryPizza03"><span style="color:#0d0">d</span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/LaundryPizza03" title="Special:Contributions/LaundryPizza03"><span style="color:#0bf">c̄</span></a>) 00:30, 20 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|LaundryPizza03|2019-07-20T00:30:00.000Z|File_Upload_Wizard_bug&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ruslik0|2019-07-21T08:27:00.000Z|LaundryPizza03|2019-07-20T00:30:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-20T00:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;LaundryPizza03&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|LaundryPizza03|2019-07-20T00:30:00.000Z|File_Upload_Wizard_bug"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ruslik0|2019-07-21T08:27:00.000Z|LaundryPizza03|2019-07-20T00:30:00.000Z"></span>What is your system? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ruslik0" title="User:Ruslik0">Ruslik</a>_<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ruslik0" title="User talk:Ruslik0"><span style="color:red">Zero</span></a> 08:27, 21 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ruslik0|2019-07-21T08:27:00.000Z|LaundryPizza03|2019-07-20T00:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-21T08:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ruslik0&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ruslik0|2019-07-21T08:27:00.000Z|LaundryPizza03|2019-07-20T00:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ruslik0|2019-07-21T08:27:00.000Z|LaundryPizza03|2019-07-20T00:30:00.000Z"></span>What is your system? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ruslik0" title="User:Ruslik0">Ruslik</a>_<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ruslik0" title="User talk:Ruslik0"><span style="color:red">Zero</span></a> 08:27, 21 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ruslik0|2019-07-21T08:27:00.000Z|LaundryPizza03|2019-07-20T00:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-21T08:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ruslik0&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ruslik0|2019-07-21T08:27:00.000Z|LaundryPizza03|2019-07-20T00:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
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 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-13T16:59:00.000Z|Official_website_gives_a_500_error"></span>This isn't necessarily Wikipedia-related, but look at the <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dear_Abby&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=897612012">Official website under "External links"</a>. After you click on the official website, the URL at the top of the screen is correct but there is a 500 error. When I go to the site and click on the correct link there, everything is fine. So I have <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dear_Abby&amp;diff=next&amp;oldid=897612012">changed the official website</a> so it will work.   
-— <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vchimpanzee" title="User:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#070">Vchimpanzee</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Vchimpanzee" title="User talk:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#F80"> talk</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee" title="Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#700">contributions</span></a> •  16:59, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-13T16:59:00.000Z|Official_website_gives_a_500_error&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-13T17:16:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-13T16:59:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T16:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vchimpanzee&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+— <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vchimpanzee" title="User:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#070">Vchimpanzee</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Vchimpanzee" title="User talk:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#F80"> talk</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee" title="Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#700">contributions</span></a> •  16:59, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-13T16:59:00.000Z|Official_website_gives_a_500_error&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-13T17:16:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-13T16:59:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T16:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vchimpanzee&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-13T17:16:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-13T16:59:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vchimpanzee" title="User:Vchimpanzee">Vchimpanzee</a>:</span> from some testing, it looks like their website is just having an intermittent outage right now (got it on the 'new link' as well) - in any case I updated the offical website property on wikidata and set the template to use the WD value. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 17:16, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-13T17:16:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-13T16:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-13T17:49:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-13T17:16:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T17:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-13T17:16:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-13T16:59:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-13T17:49:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-13T17:16:00.000Z"></span>I've had the problem for several days. Sometimes the link works and sometimes it doesn't.— <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vchimpanzee" title="User:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#070">Vchimpanzee</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Vchimpanzee" title="User talk:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#F80"> talk</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee" title="Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#700">contributions</span></a> •  17:49, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-13T17:49:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-13T17:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T18:24:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-13T17:49:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T17:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vchimpanzee&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T18:24:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-13T17:49:00.000Z"></span>Xaosflux</a> this is at least the third straight day with a 500 error from the link in the article. If there is going to be a link, it should work. From the site itself, a link to Dear Abby does work.— <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vchimpanzee" title="User:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#070">Vchimpanzee</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Vchimpanzee" title="User talk:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#F80"> talk</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee" title="Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#700">contributions</span></a> •  18:24, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T18:24:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-13T17:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T18:30:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T18:24:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T18:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vchimpanzee&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T18:30:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T18:24:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vchimpanzee" title="User:Vchimpanzee">Vchimpanzee</a>:</span> you are not seeing a Wikipedia issue, you are seeing an issue with their web pages.  To test I typed the URL in to a broswer, then opened and closed it 5 times, it failed three times.  This is occuring for both the 'dearabby.com' link, and the 'uxpress.com' link.  There is nothing we can do to fix their broken website. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 18:30, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T18:30:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T18:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T18:50:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T18:30:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T18:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T18:30:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T18:24:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T18:50:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T18:30:00.000Z"></span>I don't have the problem when I go to Dear Abby from the uexpress site. I did contact them to tell them what is going on with me.— <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vchimpanzee" title="User:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#070">Vchimpanzee</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Vchimpanzee" title="User talk:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#F80"> talk</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee" title="Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#700">contributions</span></a> •  18:50, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T18:50:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T18:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T19:03:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T18:50:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T18:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vchimpanzee&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T19:03:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T18:50:00.000Z"></span>Just got there, and refreshed my page 10 times, half of them failed.  They could have some broken load balancer. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 19:03, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T19:03:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T18:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T20:05:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T19:03:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T19:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T19:03:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T18:50:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T20:05:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T19:03:00.000Z"></span>I didn't try that many times but it worked for me both clicking on the link in the article and typing "dearabby.com".— <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vchimpanzee" title="User:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#070">Vchimpanzee</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Vchimpanzee" title="User talk:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#F80"> talk</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee" title="Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#700">contributions</span></a> •  20:05, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T20:05:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T19:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T20:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vchimpanzee&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T20:05:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T19:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T18:50:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T18:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T18:24:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-13T17:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-13T17:49:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-13T17:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-13T17:16:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-13T16:59:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vchimpanzee" title="User:Vchimpanzee">Vchimpanzee</a>:</span> from some testing, it looks like their website is just having an intermittent outage right now (got it on the 'new link' as well) - in any case I updated the offical website property on wikidata and set the template to use the WD value. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 17:16, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-13T17:16:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-13T16:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-13T17:49:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-13T17:16:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T17:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-13T17:16:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-13T16:59:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-13T17:49:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-13T17:16:00.000Z"></span>I've had the problem for several days. Sometimes the link works and sometimes it doesn't.— <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vchimpanzee" title="User:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#070">Vchimpanzee</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Vchimpanzee" title="User talk:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#F80"> talk</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee" title="Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#700">contributions</span></a> •  17:49, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-13T17:49:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-13T17:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T18:24:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-13T17:49:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T17:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vchimpanzee&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T18:24:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-13T17:49:00.000Z"></span>Xaosflux</a> this is at least the third straight day with a 500 error from the link in the article. If there is going to be a link, it should work. From the site itself, a link to Dear Abby does work.— <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vchimpanzee" title="User:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#070">Vchimpanzee</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Vchimpanzee" title="User talk:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#F80"> talk</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee" title="Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#700">contributions</span></a> •  18:24, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T18:24:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-13T17:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T18:30:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T18:24:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T18:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vchimpanzee&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T18:30:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T18:24:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vchimpanzee" title="User:Vchimpanzee">Vchimpanzee</a>:</span> you are not seeing a Wikipedia issue, you are seeing an issue with their web pages.  To test I typed the URL in to a broswer, then opened and closed it 5 times, it failed three times.  This is occuring for both the 'dearabby.com' link, and the 'uxpress.com' link.  There is nothing we can do to fix their broken website. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 18:30, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T18:30:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T18:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T18:50:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T18:30:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T18:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T18:30:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T18:24:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T18:50:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T18:30:00.000Z"></span>I don't have the problem when I go to Dear Abby from the uexpress site. I did contact them to tell them what is going on with me.— <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vchimpanzee" title="User:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#070">Vchimpanzee</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Vchimpanzee" title="User talk:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#F80"> talk</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee" title="Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#700">contributions</span></a> •  18:50, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T18:50:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T18:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T19:03:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T18:50:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T18:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vchimpanzee&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T19:03:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T18:50:00.000Z"></span>Just got there, and refreshed my page 10 times, half of them failed.  They could have some broken load balancer. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 19:03, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T19:03:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T18:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T20:05:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T19:03:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T19:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T19:03:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T18:50:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T20:05:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T19:03:00.000Z"></span>I didn't try that many times but it worked for me both clicking on the link in the article and typing "dearabby.com".— <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vchimpanzee" title="User:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#070">Vchimpanzee</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Vchimpanzee" title="User talk:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#F80"> talk</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee" title="Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#700">contributions</span></a> •  20:05, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T20:05:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T19:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T20:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vchimpanzee&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T20:05:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T19:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T18:50:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-15T18:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T18:24:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-13T17:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-13T17:49:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-13T17:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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@@ -1311,16 +1311,16 @@ Evolutionary history of life · ‎Timeline of the evolutionary ... · ‎Earlie
 <dd>PuzzleSociety.com</dd>
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 <p>— <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vchimpanzee" title="User:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#070">Vchimpanzee</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Vchimpanzee" title="User talk:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#F80"> talk</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee" title="Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#700">contributions</span></a> •  20:20, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
-<span class="outdent-template" style="display:block;margin-top:-0.5em;color:#AAA;;position:relative;left:-0.25em"><span style="display:inline-block; overflow:hidden;">┌</span><span style="display:inline-block; overflow:hidden; word-wrap:normal; width:15.3em;">─────────────────────────</span><span style="display:inline-block; overflow:hidden;">┘</span></span>I'm still sometimes getting that 500 error but I have to wonder what would be wrong with just switching to the URL which that other site sends us to.— <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vchimpanzee" title="User:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#070">Vchimpanzee</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Vchimpanzee" title="User talk:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#F80"> talk</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee" title="Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#700">contributions</span></a> •  17:49, 20 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T20:20:00.000Z|Official_website_gives_a_500_error&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-20T17:52:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T20:20:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T20:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vchimpanzee&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<span class="outdent-template" style="display:block;margin-top:-0.5em;color:#AAA;;position:relative;left:-0.25em"><span style="display:inline-block; overflow:hidden;">┌</span><span style="display:inline-block; overflow:hidden; word-wrap:normal; width:15.3em;">─────────────────────────</span><span style="display:inline-block; overflow:hidden;">┘</span></span>I'm still sometimes getting that 500 error but I have to wonder what would be wrong with just switching to the URL which that other site sends us to.— <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vchimpanzee" title="User:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#070">Vchimpanzee</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Vchimpanzee" title="User talk:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#F80"> talk</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee" title="Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#700">contributions</span></a> •  17:49, 20 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T20:20:00.000Z|Official_website_gives_a_500_error&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-20T17:52:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T20:20:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T20:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vchimpanzee&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-20T17:52:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T20:20:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vchimpanzee" title="User:Vchimpanzee">Vchimpanzee</a>:</span> I don't think you understand the technical problem - it isn't a problem with one of those domain names vs the other, it is a problem with the connection between the second domain name and the actual web server - as confirmed by the server owners in your response above.  We've demonstrated that this happens with both URL's.  This is not a problem with the English Wikipedia or with the mediawiki software in general. There is literally nothing else for us to do here. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 17:52, 20 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-20T17:52:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T20:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-20T17:55:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-20T17:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-20T17:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-20T17:52:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T20:20:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-20T17:55:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-20T17:52:00.000Z"></span>I was watching to see if I got any kind of response from the people fixing the software. My suggestion was that if the other URL does nothing but what is called "redirect" on Wikipedia, why not just bypass that?— <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vchimpanzee" title="User:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#070">Vchimpanzee</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Vchimpanzee" title="User talk:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#F80"> talk</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee" title="Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#700">contributions</span></a> •  17:55, 20 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-20T17:55:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-20T17:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|GreenC|2019-07-20T18:07:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-20T17:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-21T17:37:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-20T17:55:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-20T17:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vchimpanzee&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|GreenC|2019-07-20T18:07:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-20T17:55:00.000Z"></span>Sometimes website are broken and there is nothing to do but wait and hope. We could try to change all URLs to the redirect and/or adding archive links for non-working links. But since they said they are working on it, we should wait. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GreenC" title="User:GreenC"><span style="color: #006A4E;"><b>Green</b></span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC" title="User talk:GreenC"><span style="color: #093;"><b>C</b></span></a> 18:07, 20 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GreenC|2019-07-20T18:07:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-20T17:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-20T18:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GreenC&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GreenC|2019-07-20T18:07:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-20T17:55:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-21T17:37:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-20T17:55:00.000Z"></span>If the only problem were with the websites first 'redirect' page, then yet it would be fine to just bypass this - but please see above - the problem is <b>not</b> with the first link, it is with where they redirect it to. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 17:37, 21 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-21T17:37:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-20T17:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-21T17:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-21T17:37:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-20T17:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-20T17:55:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-20T17:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-20T17:52:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T20:20:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vchimpanzee" title="User:Vchimpanzee">Vchimpanzee</a>:</span> I don't think you understand the technical problem - it isn't a problem with one of those domain names vs the other, it is a problem with the connection between the second domain name and the actual web server - as confirmed by the server owners in your response above.  We've demonstrated that this happens with both URL's.  This is not a problem with the English Wikipedia or with the mediawiki software in general. There is literally nothing else for us to do here. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 17:52, 20 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-20T17:52:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T20:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-20T17:55:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-20T17:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-20T17:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-20T17:52:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-15T20:20:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-20T17:55:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-20T17:52:00.000Z"></span>I was watching to see if I got any kind of response from the people fixing the software. My suggestion was that if the other URL does nothing but what is called "redirect" on Wikipedia, why not just bypass that?— <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vchimpanzee" title="User:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#070">Vchimpanzee</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Vchimpanzee" title="User talk:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#F80"> talk</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee" title="Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#700">contributions</span></a> •  17:55, 20 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-20T17:55:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-20T17:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|GreenC|2019-07-20T18:07:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-20T17:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-21T17:37:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-20T17:55:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-20T17:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vchimpanzee&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|GreenC|2019-07-20T18:07:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-20T17:55:00.000Z"></span>Sometimes website are broken and there is nothing to do but wait and hope. We could try to change all URLs to the redirect and/or adding archive links for non-working links. But since they said they are working on it, we should wait. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GreenC" title="User:GreenC"><span style="color: #006A4E;"><b>Green</b></span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC" title="User talk:GreenC"><span style="color: #093;"><b>C</b></span></a> 18:07, 20 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GreenC|2019-07-20T18:07:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-20T17:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-20T18:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GreenC&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GreenC|2019-07-20T18:07:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-20T17:55:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-21T17:37:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-20T17:55:00.000Z"></span>If the only problem were with the websites first 'redirect' page, then yet it would be fine to just bypass this - but please see above - the problem is <b>not</b> with the first link, it is with where they redirect it to. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 17:37, 21 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-21T17:37:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-20T17:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-21T17:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-21T17:37:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-20T17:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Vchimpanzee|2019-07-20T17:55:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-20T17:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Template_linking_and_transclusion_check_tool" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Template_linking_and_transclusion_check_tool|2019-07-21T11:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|JMHamo|2019-07-21T11:51:00.000Z|Template_linking_and_transclusion_check_tool&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Template_linking_and_transclusion_check_tool|2019-07-21T11:51:00.000Z"></span>Template linking and transclusion check tool<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Template_linking_and_transclusion_check_tool|2019-07-21T11:51:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JMHamo|2019-07-21T11:51:00.000Z|Template_linking_and_transclusion_check_tool"></span>Hello, does anybody know how/who can fix the <a class="external text" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/templatetransclusioncheck/?lang=en&amp;name=Template:Stockport_County_F.C._squad">Template linking and transclusion check tool</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JMHamo" title="User:JMHamo">JMHamo</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JMHamo" title="User talk:JMHamo">talk</a>) 11:51, 21 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JMHamo|2019-07-21T11:51:00.000Z|Template_linking_and_transclusion_check_tool&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MarMi wiki|2019-07-21T18:04:00.000Z|JMHamo|2019-07-21T11:51:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-21T11:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JMHamo&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JMHamo|2019-07-21T11:51:00.000Z|Template_linking_and_transclusion_check_tool"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JMHamo|2019-07-21T11:51:00.000Z|Template_linking_and_transclusion_check_tool"></span>Hello, does anybody know how/who can fix the <a class="external text" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/templatetransclusioncheck/?lang=en&amp;name=Template:Stockport_County_F.C._squad">Template linking and transclusion check tool</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JMHamo" title="User:JMHamo">JMHamo</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JMHamo" title="User talk:JMHamo">talk</a>) 11:51, 21 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JMHamo|2019-07-21T11:51:00.000Z|Template_linking_and_transclusion_check_tool&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MarMi wiki|2019-07-21T18:04:00.000Z|JMHamo|2019-07-21T11:51:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-21T11:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JMHamo&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JMHamo|2019-07-21T11:51:00.000Z|Template_linking_and_transclusion_check_tool"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MarMi wiki|2019-07-21T18:04:00.000Z|JMHamo|2019-07-21T11:51:00.000Z"></span>Maybe <a class="external text" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/templatetransclusioncheck/">author</a>? (If he's active). <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MarMi_wiki" title="User:MarMi wiki">MarMi wiki</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MarMi_wiki" title="User talk:MarMi wiki">talk</a>) 18:04, 21 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MarMi wiki|2019-07-21T18:04:00.000Z|JMHamo|2019-07-21T11:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-21T18:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MarMi wiki&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MarMi wiki|2019-07-21T18:04:00.000Z|JMHamo|2019-07-21T11:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MarMi wiki|2019-07-21T18:04:00.000Z|JMHamo|2019-07-21T11:51:00.000Z"></span>Maybe <a class="external text" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/templatetransclusioncheck/">author</a>? (If he's active). <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MarMi_wiki" title="User:MarMi wiki">MarMi wiki</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MarMi_wiki" title="User talk:MarMi wiki">talk</a>) 18:04, 21 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MarMi wiki|2019-07-21T18:04:00.000Z|JMHamo|2019-07-21T11:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-21T18:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MarMi wiki&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MarMi wiki|2019-07-21T18:04:00.000Z|JMHamo|2019-07-21T11:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
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 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Filelakeshoe|2019-07-22T14:42:00.000Z|Transclusions_with_hashes_at_the_beginning"></span>I have recently become confused by some transclusions on sports seasons articles such as <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019%E2%80%9320_UEFA_Europa_League" title="2019–20 UEFA Europa League">2019–20 UEFA Europa League</a>, which under the "third qualifying round" header just has the following code to produce the fixtures table, with no edit button as is usual on templates:
 </p><p><code>{{#lst:2019–20 UEFA Europa League qualifying phase and play-off round|Q3}}</code>
 </p><p>I cannot find the corresponding template or module for this anywhere, can anyone give me a hand?
-</p><p>Thanks – <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Filelakeshoe" title="User:Filelakeshoe">filelakeshoe</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Filelakeshoe" title="User talk:Filelakeshoe">t</a> / <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/filelakeshoe" title="Special:Contributions/filelakeshoe">c</a>) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Filelakeshoe/kocour" title="User:Filelakeshoe/kocour">🐱</a> 14:42, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Filelakeshoe|2019-07-22T14:42:00.000Z|Transclusions_with_hashes_at_the_beginning&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-22T14:46:00.000Z|Filelakeshoe|2019-07-22T14:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Pppery|2019-07-22T14:47:00.000Z|Filelakeshoe|2019-07-22T14:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T14:48:00.000Z|Filelakeshoe|2019-07-22T14:42:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T14:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Filelakeshoe&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Filelakeshoe|2019-07-22T14:42:00.000Z|Transclusions_with_hashes_at_the_beginning"></span>
+</p><p>Thanks – <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Filelakeshoe" title="User:Filelakeshoe">filelakeshoe</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Filelakeshoe" title="User talk:Filelakeshoe">t</a> / <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/filelakeshoe" title="Special:Contributions/filelakeshoe">c</a>) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Filelakeshoe/kocour" title="User:Filelakeshoe/kocour">🐱</a> 14:42, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Filelakeshoe|2019-07-22T14:42:00.000Z|Transclusions_with_hashes_at_the_beginning&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-22T14:46:00.000Z|Filelakeshoe|2019-07-22T14:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Pppery|2019-07-22T14:47:00.000Z|Filelakeshoe|2019-07-22T14:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T14:48:00.000Z|Filelakeshoe|2019-07-22T14:42:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T14:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Filelakeshoe&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Filelakeshoe|2019-07-22T14:42:00.000Z|Transclusions_with_hashes_at_the_beginning"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gonnym|2019-07-22T14:46:00.000Z|Filelakeshoe|2019-07-22T14:42:00.000Z"></span>It is not a template, but a page - <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019%E2%80%9320_UEFA_Europa_League_qualifying_phase_and_play-off_round" title="2019–20 UEFA Europa League qualifying phase and play-off round">2019–20 UEFA Europa League qualifying phase and play-off round</a>. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) 14:46, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-22T14:46:00.000Z|Filelakeshoe|2019-07-22T14:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T14:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gonnym&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gonnym|2019-07-22T14:46:00.000Z|Filelakeshoe|2019-07-22T14:42:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Pppery|2019-07-22T14:47:00.000Z|Filelakeshoe|2019-07-22T14:42:00.000Z"></span>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Edit_conflict" title="Help:Edit conflict">edit conflict</a>)</small> <code>#lst</code>, or more readably <code>#section</code> isn't actually a template but instead a magic word. The text it produces is stored at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019%E2%80%9320_UEFA_Europa_League_qualifying_phase_and_play-off_round" title="2019–20 UEFA Europa League qualifying phase and play-off round">2019–20 UEFA Europa League qualifying phase and play-off round</a>, delimited by <code class="nowrap" style="">&lt;section begin=Q3 /></code><code>...</code><code class="nowrap" style="">&lt;section end=Q3 /></code>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pppery" title="User:Pppery">* Pppery *</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pppery" title="User talk:Pppery"><sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub></a> 14:47, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pppery|2019-07-22T14:47:00.000Z|Filelakeshoe|2019-07-22T14:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T14:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pppery&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Pppery|2019-07-22T14:47:00.000Z|Filelakeshoe|2019-07-22T14:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
-<dl><dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T14:48:00.000Z|Filelakeshoe|2019-07-22T14:42:00.000Z"></span>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Edit_conflict" title="Help:Edit conflict">edit conflict</a>)</small> <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Filelakeshoe" title="User:Filelakeshoe">Filelakeshoe</a>:</span> that is the abomination of <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Labeled_Section_Transclusion" class="extiw" title="mw:Extension:Labeled Section Transclusion">mw:Extension:Labeled Section Transclusion</a> - I really hate that extension, but some people like it! — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 14:48, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T14:48:00.000Z|Filelakeshoe|2019-07-22T14:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Filelakeshoe|2019-07-22T14:55:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T14:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T15:01:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T14:48:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T14:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T14:48:00.000Z|Filelakeshoe|2019-07-22T14:42:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Filelakeshoe|2019-07-22T14:55:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T14:48:00.000Z"></span>Thanks everyone! Yeah it's not very user friendly - an "edit source" link would be useful, but I guess not practical for all cases. – <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Filelakeshoe" title="User:Filelakeshoe">filelakeshoe</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Filelakeshoe" title="User talk:Filelakeshoe">t</a> / <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/filelakeshoe" title="Special:Contributions/filelakeshoe">c</a>) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Filelakeshoe/kocour" title="User:Filelakeshoe/kocour">🐱</a> 14:55, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Filelakeshoe|2019-07-22T14:55:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T14:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T14:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Filelakeshoe&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Filelakeshoe|2019-07-22T14:55:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T14:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gonnym|2019-07-22T14:46:00.000Z|Filelakeshoe|2019-07-22T14:42:00.000Z"></span>It is not a template, but a page - <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019%E2%80%9320_UEFA_Europa_League_qualifying_phase_and_play-off_round" title="2019–20 UEFA Europa League qualifying phase and play-off round">2019–20 UEFA Europa League qualifying phase and play-off round</a>. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) 14:46, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-22T14:46:00.000Z|Filelakeshoe|2019-07-22T14:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T14:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gonnym&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gonnym|2019-07-22T14:46:00.000Z|Filelakeshoe|2019-07-22T14:42:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Pppery|2019-07-22T14:47:00.000Z|Filelakeshoe|2019-07-22T14:42:00.000Z"></span>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Edit_conflict" title="Help:Edit conflict">edit conflict</a>)</small> <code>#lst</code>, or more readably <code>#section</code> isn't actually a template but instead a magic word. The text it produces is stored at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019%E2%80%9320_UEFA_Europa_League_qualifying_phase_and_play-off_round" title="2019–20 UEFA Europa League qualifying phase and play-off round">2019–20 UEFA Europa League qualifying phase and play-off round</a>, delimited by <code class="nowrap" style="">&lt;section begin=Q3 /></code><code>...</code><code class="nowrap" style="">&lt;section end=Q3 /></code>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pppery" title="User:Pppery">* Pppery *</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pppery" title="User talk:Pppery"><sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub></a> 14:47, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pppery|2019-07-22T14:47:00.000Z|Filelakeshoe|2019-07-22T14:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T14:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pppery&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Pppery|2019-07-22T14:47:00.000Z|Filelakeshoe|2019-07-22T14:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T14:48:00.000Z|Filelakeshoe|2019-07-22T14:42:00.000Z"></span>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Edit_conflict" title="Help:Edit conflict">edit conflict</a>)</small> <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Filelakeshoe" title="User:Filelakeshoe">Filelakeshoe</a>:</span> that is the abomination of <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Labeled_Section_Transclusion" class="extiw" title="mw:Extension:Labeled Section Transclusion">mw:Extension:Labeled Section Transclusion</a> - I really hate that extension, but some people like it! — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 14:48, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T14:48:00.000Z|Filelakeshoe|2019-07-22T14:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Filelakeshoe|2019-07-22T14:55:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T14:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T15:01:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T14:48:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T14:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T14:48:00.000Z|Filelakeshoe|2019-07-22T14:42:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Filelakeshoe|2019-07-22T14:55:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T14:48:00.000Z"></span>Thanks everyone! Yeah it's not very user friendly - an "edit source" link would be useful, but I guess not practical for all cases. – <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Filelakeshoe" title="User:Filelakeshoe">filelakeshoe</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Filelakeshoe" title="User talk:Filelakeshoe">t</a> / <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/filelakeshoe" title="Special:Contributions/filelakeshoe">c</a>) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Filelakeshoe/kocour" title="User:Filelakeshoe/kocour">🐱</a> 14:55, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Filelakeshoe|2019-07-22T14:55:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T14:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T14:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Filelakeshoe&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Filelakeshoe|2019-07-22T14:55:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T14:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
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 <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T15:01:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T14:48:00.000Z"></span>Is there a better way?  I've used it to transclude chunks of appropriate help text from <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:CS1_errors" title="Help:CS1 errors">Help:CS1 errors</a> into the various error category pages in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:CS1_errors" title="Category:CS1 errors">Category:CS1 errors</a>.  It's worked well for that.  One source page so only one page to maintain.  But if there's a better way, ...</dd>
-<dd>—<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk" title="User talk:Trappist the monk">talk</a>) 15:01, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T15:01:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T14:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T15:02:00.000Z|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T15:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T15:20:00.000Z|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T15:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T15:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Trappist the monk&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T15:01:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T14:48:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T15:02:00.000Z|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T15:01:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a>:</span> reusable text/markup is what birthed templates :D — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 15:02, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T15:02:00.000Z|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T15:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-22T15:15:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T15:02:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T15:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T15:02:00.000Z|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T15:01:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gonnym|2019-07-22T15:15:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T15:02:00.000Z"></span>The real solution for tables will always be 1 data source, that you call from whatever page you are on and get the results placed into the table. That was supposed to be Wikidata but it seems that won't happen. Anything else is just a backwards way of trying to handle tabular data. See any TV award, which is written and independently sourced in the TV article, season article, actor article, the TV award itself and if the character that actor played has an article, that article as well. /off-topic rant --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) 15:15, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-22T15:15:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T15:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T15:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gonnym&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gonnym|2019-07-22T15:15:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T15:02:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd>—<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk" title="User talk:Trappist the monk">talk</a>) 15:01, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T15:01:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T14:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T15:02:00.000Z|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T15:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T15:20:00.000Z|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T15:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T15:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Trappist the monk&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T15:01:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T14:48:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T15:02:00.000Z|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T15:01:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a>:</span> reusable text/markup is what birthed templates :D — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 15:02, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T15:02:00.000Z|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T15:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-22T15:15:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T15:02:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T15:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T15:02:00.000Z|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T15:01:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gonnym|2019-07-22T15:15:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T15:02:00.000Z"></span>The real solution for tables will always be 1 data source, that you call from whatever page you are on and get the results placed into the table. That was supposed to be Wikidata but it seems that won't happen. Anything else is just a backwards way of trying to handle tabular data. See any TV award, which is written and independently sourced in the TV article, season article, actor article, the TV award itself and if the character that actor played has an article, that article as well. /off-topic rant --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) 15:15, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-22T15:15:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T15:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T15:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gonnym&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gonnym|2019-07-22T15:15:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T15:02:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
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 <dl><dd>Oh, aye?  But don't we, at en.wiki, proscribe article text in template space?  Not my creation but the documentation for the cs1|2 templates is primarily handled by <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Citation_Style_documentation" title="Template:Citation Style documentation">Template:Citation Style documentation</a> and a plethora of sub-templates.  It is a pain to maintain and that, in my mind, disqualifies it as a 'better way' than labeled section transclusion.  So no 'better way' than templates?</dd>
-<dd>—<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk" title="User talk:Trappist the monk">talk</a>) 15:20, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T15:20:00.000Z|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T15:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T15:32:00.000Z|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T15:20:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T15:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Trappist the monk&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T15:20:00.000Z|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T15:01:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T15:32:00.000Z|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T15:20:00.000Z"></span>Well "template documentation" isn't really "article text" is it? :D — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 15:32, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T15:32:00.000Z|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T15:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T16:11:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T15:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T15:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T15:32:00.000Z|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T15:20:00.000Z"></span>
+<dd>—<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk" title="User talk:Trappist the monk">talk</a>) 15:20, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T15:20:00.000Z|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T15:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T15:32:00.000Z|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T15:20:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T15:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Trappist the monk&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T15:20:00.000Z|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T15:01:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T15:32:00.000Z|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T15:20:00.000Z"></span>Well "template documentation" isn't really "article text" is it? :D — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 15:32, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T15:32:00.000Z|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T15:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T16:11:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T15:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T15:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T15:32:00.000Z|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T15:20:00.000Z"></span>
 <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T16:11:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T15:32:00.000Z"></span>It's not, but the OP provided an example where labeled-section-transclusion is used in article text which avoids the no-article-text-in-template-space proscription.  My csdoc example is intended to show that were article text allowed in template space, such use of templates can be unwieldy.  So am I to understand that while you consider labeled-section-transclusion to be an <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r886049556"/><q class="inline-quote-talk">abomination</q>, you don't have a better solution?</dd>
-<dd>—<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk" title="User talk:Trappist the monk">talk</a>) 16:11, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T16:11:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T15:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T16:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Trappist the monk&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T16:11:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T15:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dd>—<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk" title="User talk:Trappist the monk">talk</a>) 16:11, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T16:11:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T15:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T16:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Trappist the monk&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Trappist the monk|2019-07-22T16:11:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T15:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id="Convert_button_in_visual_editor:_is_this_new.3F"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Convert_button_in_visual_editor:_is_this_new?" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Convert_button_in_visual_editor:_is_this_new?|2019-07-19T22:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-07-19T22:54:00.000Z|Convert_button_in_visual_editor:_is_this_new?&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Convert_button_in_visual_editor:_is_this_new?|2019-07-19T22:54:00.000Z"></span>Convert button in visual editor: is this new?<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Convert_button_in_visual_editor:_is_this_new?|2019-07-19T22:54:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RoySmith|2019-07-19T22:54:00.000Z|Convert_button_in_visual_editor:_is_this_new?"></span>I noticed today that when you click on a reference which is a bare URL in Visual Editor, the edit box has a bottom section that says, <i>This reference consists of just an external link. You can use the "Convert" button below to generate a properly formatted reference.</i>  Is this new, or have I just never noticed it before?  -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> 22:54, 19 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-07-19T22:54:00.000Z|Convert_button_in_visual_editor:_is_this_new?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Snaevar|2019-07-21T09:16:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-07-19T22:54:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-19T22:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RoySmith&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RoySmith|2019-07-19T22:54:00.000Z|Convert_button_in_visual_editor:_is_this_new?"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RoySmith|2019-07-19T22:54:00.000Z|Convert_button_in_visual_editor:_is_this_new?"></span>I noticed today that when you click on a reference which is a bare URL in Visual Editor, the edit box has a bottom section that says, <i>This reference consists of just an external link. You can use the "Convert" button below to generate a properly formatted reference.</i>  Is this new, or have I just never noticed it before?  -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> 22:54, 19 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-07-19T22:54:00.000Z|Convert_button_in_visual_editor:_is_this_new?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Snaevar|2019-07-21T09:16:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-07-19T22:54:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-19T22:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RoySmith&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RoySmith|2019-07-19T22:54:00.000Z|Convert_button_in_visual_editor:_is_this_new?"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Snaevar|2019-07-21T09:16:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-07-19T22:54:00.000Z"></span>No, this convert button message is not new. It was added at November 1, 2015. It is part of the <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/citoid" class="extiw" title="mw:citoid">citoid</a> extension, which is bundled with VisualEditor.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Snaevar" title="User:Snaevar">Snaevar</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Snaevar" title="User talk:Snaevar">talk</a>) 09:16, 21 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Snaevar|2019-07-21T09:16:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-07-19T22:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-07-22T16:45:00.000Z|Snaevar|2019-07-21T09:16:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-21T09:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Snaevar&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Snaevar|2019-07-21T09:16:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-07-19T22:54:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RoySmith|2019-07-22T16:45:00.000Z|Snaevar|2019-07-21T09:16:00.000Z"></span>Interesting, but weird that I've never noticed it before.  Has something changed to make it more obvious?  My usual process has been to copy the URL, create a new Automatic citation, then delete the old reference.  It's just odd that I've never noticed the Convert button before, which does all that with so much less effort.  -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> 16:45, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-07-22T16:45:00.000Z|Snaevar|2019-07-21T09:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T16:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RoySmith&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RoySmith|2019-07-22T16:45:00.000Z|Snaevar|2019-07-21T09:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Snaevar|2019-07-21T09:16:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-07-19T22:54:00.000Z"></span>No, this convert button message is not new. It was added at November 1, 2015. It is part of the <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/citoid" class="extiw" title="mw:citoid">citoid</a> extension, which is bundled with VisualEditor.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Snaevar" title="User:Snaevar">Snaevar</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Snaevar" title="User talk:Snaevar">talk</a>) 09:16, 21 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Snaevar|2019-07-21T09:16:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-07-19T22:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-07-22T16:45:00.000Z|Snaevar|2019-07-21T09:16:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-21T09:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Snaevar&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Snaevar|2019-07-21T09:16:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-07-19T22:54:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RoySmith|2019-07-22T16:45:00.000Z|Snaevar|2019-07-21T09:16:00.000Z"></span>Interesting, but weird that I've never noticed it before.  Has something changed to make it more obvious?  My usual process has been to copy the URL, create a new Automatic citation, then delete the old reference.  It's just odd that I've never noticed the Convert button before, which does all that with so much less effort.  -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> 16:45, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-07-22T16:45:00.000Z|Snaevar|2019-07-21T09:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T16:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RoySmith&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RoySmith|2019-07-22T16:45:00.000Z|Snaevar|2019-07-21T09:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|GreenC|2019-07-22T16:12:00.000Z|Template_help"></span>Requesting help updating some wiki templates (non-Lua). I don't know how to do it. Can you help? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Vcite_book#Support_for_archive-url_vs._archiveurl" title="Template talk:Vcite book">Template_talk:Vcite_book#Support_for_archive-url_vs._archiveurl</a>. Cross posted to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_templates#Vcite_template_updates" title="Wikipedia:Requested templates">Wikipedia:Requested_templates#Vcite_template_updates</a>. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GreenC" title="User:GreenC"><span style="color: #006A4E;"><b>Green</b></span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC" title="User talk:GreenC"><span style="color: #093;"><b>C</b></span></a> 16:12, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GreenC|2019-07-22T16:12:00.000Z|Template_help&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|GreenC|2019-07-22T17:45:00.000Z|GreenC|2019-07-22T16:12:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T16:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GreenC&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GreenC|2019-07-22T16:12:00.000Z|Template_help"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|GreenC|2019-07-22T16:12:00.000Z|Template_help"></span>Requesting help updating some wiki templates (non-Lua). I don't know how to do it. Can you help? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Vcite_book#Support_for_archive-url_vs._archiveurl" title="Template talk:Vcite book">Template_talk:Vcite_book#Support_for_archive-url_vs._archiveurl</a>. Cross posted to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_templates#Vcite_template_updates" title="Wikipedia:Requested templates">Wikipedia:Requested_templates#Vcite_template_updates</a>. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GreenC" title="User:GreenC"><span style="color: #006A4E;"><b>Green</b></span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC" title="User talk:GreenC"><span style="color: #093;"><b>C</b></span></a> 16:12, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GreenC|2019-07-22T16:12:00.000Z|Template_help&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|GreenC|2019-07-22T17:45:00.000Z|GreenC|2019-07-22T16:12:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T16:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GreenC&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GreenC|2019-07-22T16:12:00.000Z|Template_help"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|GreenC|2019-07-22T17:45:00.000Z|GreenC|2019-07-22T16:12:00.000Z"></span>This is done, though <code>{{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Vcite_book" title="Template:Vcite book">vcite book</a>}}</code> could still use support for <code class="nowrap">|archiveurl=</code> and <code class="nowrap">|archivedate=</code> in case anyone wants to add it, examples in other vcite templates. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GreenC" title="User:GreenC"><span style="color: #006A4E;"><b>Green</b></span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC" title="User talk:GreenC"><span style="color: #093;"><b>C</b></span></a> 17:45, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GreenC|2019-07-22T17:45:00.000Z|GreenC|2019-07-22T16:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T17:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GreenC&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GreenC|2019-07-22T17:45:00.000Z|GreenC|2019-07-22T16:12:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|GreenC|2019-07-22T17:45:00.000Z|GreenC|2019-07-22T16:12:00.000Z"></span>This is done, though <code>{{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Vcite_book" title="Template:Vcite book">vcite book</a>}}</code> could still use support for <code class="nowrap">|archiveurl=</code> and <code class="nowrap">|archivedate=</code> in case anyone wants to add it, examples in other vcite templates. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GreenC" title="User:GreenC"><span style="color: #006A4E;"><b>Green</b></span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC" title="User talk:GreenC"><span style="color: #093;"><b>C</b></span></a> 17:45, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GreenC|2019-07-22T17:45:00.000Z|GreenC|2019-07-22T16:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T17:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GreenC&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GreenC|2019-07-22T17:45:00.000Z|GreenC|2019-07-22T16:12:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
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 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Seddon (WMF)|2019-07-16T22:26:00.000Z|English_Fundraising_Tests"></span>Dear all,
 </p><p>As I noted at the <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=903570172">end of June</a>, through the summer we will be running systems tests in preparation for the end of year fundraiser on the English Wikipedia. 
@@ -1386,17 +1386,17 @@ Evolutionary history of life · ‎Timeline of the evolutionary ... · ‎Earlie
 <li>If you see a donor on a talk page, OTRS or social media having difficulties in donating, please refer them to donate@wikimedia.org.</li>
 <li>If you have specific ideas to share, please feel invited to add them to our <a class="external text" href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising/2018-19_Fundraising_ideas">fundraising ideas page</a>.</li></ul>
 <p>You can also send feedback regarding the fundraising campaign directly on <a class="external text" href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Seddon_(WMF)">my talk page</a>.
-</p><p>Thank you in advance for your support. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Seddon_(WMF)" title="User:Seddon (WMF)">Seddon (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Seddon_(WMF)" title="User talk:Seddon (WMF)">talk</a>) 22:26, 16 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Seddon (WMF)|2019-07-16T22:26:00.000Z|English_Fundraising_Tests&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Seddon (WMF)|2019-07-23T20:28:00.000Z|Seddon (WMF)|2019-07-16T22:26:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-16T22:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Seddon (WMF)&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Seddon (WMF)|2019-07-16T22:26:00.000Z|English_Fundraising_Tests"></span>
+</p><p>Thank you in advance for your support. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Seddon_(WMF)" title="User:Seddon (WMF)">Seddon (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Seddon_(WMF)" title="User talk:Seddon (WMF)">talk</a>) 22:26, 16 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Seddon (WMF)|2019-07-16T22:26:00.000Z|English_Fundraising_Tests&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Seddon (WMF)|2019-07-23T20:28:00.000Z|Seddon (WMF)|2019-07-16T22:26:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-16T22:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Seddon (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Seddon (WMF)|2019-07-16T22:26:00.000Z|English_Fundraising_Tests"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Seddon (WMF)|2019-07-23T20:28:00.000Z|Seddon (WMF)|2019-07-16T22:26:00.000Z"></span>Just to bump this thread that we will be testing again 1500 UTC Wednesday 24 July. Many Thanks. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Seddon_(WMF)" title="User:Seddon (WMF)">Seddon (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Seddon_(WMF)" title="User talk:Seddon (WMF)">talk</a>) 20:28, 23 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Seddon (WMF)|2019-07-23T20:28:00.000Z|Seddon (WMF)|2019-07-16T22:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-23T20:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Seddon (WMF)&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Seddon (WMF)|2019-07-23T20:28:00.000Z|Seddon (WMF)|2019-07-16T22:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Seddon (WMF)|2019-07-23T20:28:00.000Z|Seddon (WMF)|2019-07-16T22:26:00.000Z"></span>Just to bump this thread that we will be testing again 1500 UTC Wednesday 24 July. Many Thanks. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Seddon_(WMF)" title="User:Seddon (WMF)">Seddon (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Seddon_(WMF)" title="User talk:Seddon (WMF)">talk</a>) 20:28, 23 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Seddon (WMF)|2019-07-23T20:28:00.000Z|Seddon (WMF)|2019-07-16T22:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-23T20:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Seddon (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Seddon (WMF)|2019-07-23T20:28:00.000Z|Seddon (WMF)|2019-07-16T22:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MarnetteD|2019-07-24T18:41:00.000Z|Help_with_color_overlap_problem"></span>Hello. On my talk page <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mnnlaxer" title="User:Mnnlaxer">Mnnlaxer</a> asked about a situation with the collapsed tables at the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_men%27s_national_lacrosse_team" title="Israel men's national lacrosse team">Israel men's national lacrosse team</a> article. Because they are blue readers can't see the "show/hide" command. I think I've seen tables where they are highlighted in white but I have no idea how to make the change. Any help that can be provided will be appreciated. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MarnetteD" title="User:MarnetteD">MarnetteD</a>|<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MarnetteD" title="User talk:MarnetteD">Talk</a> 18:41, 24 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MarnetteD|2019-07-24T18:41:00.000Z|Help_with_color_overlap_problem&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T19:01:00.000Z|MarnetteD|2019-07-24T18:41:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-24T18:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MarnetteD&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MarnetteD|2019-07-24T18:41:00.000Z|Help_with_color_overlap_problem"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MarnetteD|2019-07-24T18:41:00.000Z|Help_with_color_overlap_problem"></span>Hello. On my talk page <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mnnlaxer" title="User:Mnnlaxer">Mnnlaxer</a> asked about a situation with the collapsed tables at the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_men%27s_national_lacrosse_team" title="Israel men's national lacrosse team">Israel men's national lacrosse team</a> article. Because they are blue readers can't see the "show/hide" command. I think I've seen tables where they are highlighted in white but I have no idea how to make the change. Any help that can be provided will be appreciated. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MarnetteD" title="User:MarnetteD">MarnetteD</a>|<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MarnetteD" title="User talk:MarnetteD">Talk</a> 18:41, 24 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MarnetteD|2019-07-24T18:41:00.000Z|Help_with_color_overlap_problem&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T19:01:00.000Z|MarnetteD|2019-07-24T18:41:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-24T18:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MarnetteD&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MarnetteD|2019-07-24T18:41:00.000Z|Help_with_color_overlap_problem"></span>
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-<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MarnetteD" title="User:MarnetteD"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T19:01:00.000Z|MarnetteD|2019-07-24T18:41:00.000Z"></span>MarnetteD</a>, would it be okay if someone changed the background of the title from blue to green? You can do that by replacing all "#274da9" with "Green"--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SharabSalam" title="User talk:SharabSalam">talk</a>) 19:01, 24 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T19:01:00.000Z|MarnetteD|2019-07-24T18:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MarnetteD|2019-07-24T19:57:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T19:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-24T19:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SharabSalam&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T19:01:00.000Z|MarnetteD|2019-07-24T18:41:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MarnetteD|2019-07-24T19:57:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T19:01:00.000Z"></span>I don't know <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a>. I have posted this this message <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Lacrosse#Input_help" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Lacrosse">Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Lacrosse#Input help</a> to see if that wikiproject has any guidelines about the color of the tables in their articles. Thanks for the suggestion. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MarnetteD" title="User:MarnetteD">MarnetteD</a>|<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MarnetteD" title="User talk:MarnetteD">Talk</a> 19:57, 24 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MarnetteD|2019-07-24T19:57:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T19:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-24T20:16:00.000Z|MarnetteD|2019-07-24T19:57:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-24T19:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MarnetteD&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MarnetteD|2019-07-24T19:57:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T19:01:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gonnym|2019-07-24T20:16:00.000Z|MarnetteD|2019-07-24T19:57:00.000Z"></span>So many issues with that page... <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOS:DONTHIDE" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:DONTHIDE">MOS:DONTHIDE</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOS:SMALLFONT" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:SMALLFONT">MOS:SMALLFONT</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOS:LINKCOLOR" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:LINKCOLOR">MOS:LINKCOLOR</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOS:HEADINGS" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:HEADINGS">MOS:HEADINGS</a> - just from one section. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) 20:16, 24 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-24T20:16:00.000Z|MarnetteD|2019-07-24T19:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Mnnlaxer|2019-07-25T04:27:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-24T20:16:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-24T20:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gonnym&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gonnym|2019-07-24T20:16:00.000Z|MarnetteD|2019-07-24T19:57:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Mnnlaxer|2019-07-25T04:27:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-24T20:16:00.000Z"></span>The color is blue because of the Israeli national flag color. It can change, but white "show/hide" would be better. If anyone can do some clean up on the MOS issues, please jump right in! Thanks, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MarnetteD" title="User:MarnetteD">MarnetteD</a>. --- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mnnlaxer" title="User:Mnnlaxer">Mnnlaxer</a> | <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mnnlaxer" title="User talk:Mnnlaxer"><span style="font-weight:normal">talk</span></a> | <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mnnlaxer" title="Special:Contributions/Mnnlaxer">stalk</a> 04:27, 25 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mnnlaxer|2019-07-25T04:27:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-24T20:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-25T09:24:00.000Z|Mnnlaxer|2019-07-25T04:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-25T04:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mnnlaxer&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Mnnlaxer|2019-07-25T04:27:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-24T20:16:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-25T09:24:00.000Z|Mnnlaxer|2019-07-25T04:27:00.000Z"></span>{{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Hidden_begin" title="Template:Hidden begin">hidden begin</a>}} can replace <code>| bodystyle = background:#FFFFE6;</code> with <code>| style = color:white; | bodystyle = background:#FFFFE6; color:black;</code> as the below example. The <code>style</code> parameter also applies to the collapsed text so it's returned to black with <code>bodystyle</code>. I don't know whether this can cause issues for some users trying to replace normal black text with another color for themselves. The gadget "Use a black background with green text" appears to work as normal. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 09:24, 25 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-25T09:24:00.000Z|Mnnlaxer|2019-07-25T04:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-25T09:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-25T09:24:00.000Z|Mnnlaxer|2019-07-25T04:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MarnetteD" title="User:MarnetteD"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T19:01:00.000Z|MarnetteD|2019-07-24T18:41:00.000Z"></span>MarnetteD</a>, would it be okay if someone changed the background of the title from blue to green? You can do that by replacing all "#274da9" with "Green"--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SharabSalam" title="User talk:SharabSalam">talk</a>) 19:01, 24 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T19:01:00.000Z|MarnetteD|2019-07-24T18:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MarnetteD|2019-07-24T19:57:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T19:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-24T19:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SharabSalam&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T19:01:00.000Z|MarnetteD|2019-07-24T18:41:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MarnetteD|2019-07-24T19:57:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T19:01:00.000Z"></span>I don't know <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a>. I have posted this this message <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Lacrosse#Input_help" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Lacrosse">Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Lacrosse#Input help</a> to see if that wikiproject has any guidelines about the color of the tables in their articles. Thanks for the suggestion. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MarnetteD" title="User:MarnetteD">MarnetteD</a>|<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MarnetteD" title="User talk:MarnetteD">Talk</a> 19:57, 24 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MarnetteD|2019-07-24T19:57:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T19:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-24T20:16:00.000Z|MarnetteD|2019-07-24T19:57:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-24T19:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MarnetteD&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MarnetteD|2019-07-24T19:57:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T19:01:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gonnym|2019-07-24T20:16:00.000Z|MarnetteD|2019-07-24T19:57:00.000Z"></span>So many issues with that page... <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOS:DONTHIDE" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:DONTHIDE">MOS:DONTHIDE</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOS:SMALLFONT" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:SMALLFONT">MOS:SMALLFONT</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOS:LINKCOLOR" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:LINKCOLOR">MOS:LINKCOLOR</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOS:HEADINGS" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:HEADINGS">MOS:HEADINGS</a> - just from one section. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gonnym" title="User talk:Gonnym">talk</a>) 20:16, 24 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gonnym|2019-07-24T20:16:00.000Z|MarnetteD|2019-07-24T19:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Mnnlaxer|2019-07-25T04:27:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-24T20:16:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-24T20:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gonnym&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gonnym|2019-07-24T20:16:00.000Z|MarnetteD|2019-07-24T19:57:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Mnnlaxer|2019-07-25T04:27:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-24T20:16:00.000Z"></span>The color is blue because of the Israeli national flag color. It can change, but white "show/hide" would be better. If anyone can do some clean up on the MOS issues, please jump right in! Thanks, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MarnetteD" title="User:MarnetteD">MarnetteD</a>. --- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mnnlaxer" title="User:Mnnlaxer">Mnnlaxer</a> | <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mnnlaxer" title="User talk:Mnnlaxer"><span style="font-weight:normal">talk</span></a> | <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mnnlaxer" title="Special:Contributions/Mnnlaxer">stalk</a> 04:27, 25 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mnnlaxer|2019-07-25T04:27:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-24T20:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-25T09:24:00.000Z|Mnnlaxer|2019-07-25T04:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-25T04:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mnnlaxer&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Mnnlaxer|2019-07-25T04:27:00.000Z|Gonnym|2019-07-24T20:16:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-25T09:24:00.000Z|Mnnlaxer|2019-07-25T04:27:00.000Z"></span>{{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Hidden_begin" title="Template:Hidden begin">hidden begin</a>}} can replace <code>| bodystyle = background:#FFFFE6;</code> with <code>| style = color:white; | bodystyle = background:#FFFFE6; color:black;</code> as the below example. The <code>style</code> parameter also applies to the collapsed text so it's returned to black with <code>bodystyle</code>. I don't know whether this can cause issues for some users trying to replace normal black text with another color for themselves. The gadget "Use a black background with green text" appears to work as normal. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 09:24, 25 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-25T09:24:00.000Z|Mnnlaxer|2019-07-25T04:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-25T09:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-25T09:24:00.000Z|Mnnlaxer|2019-07-25T04:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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-<p>Thanks <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> for figuring out the code and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> for fixing MOS issues, including removing the hidden tables. Onward and upward with the arts! --- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mnnlaxer" title="User:Mnnlaxer">Mnnlaxer</a> | <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mnnlaxer" title="User talk:Mnnlaxer"><span style="font-weight:normal">talk</span></a> | <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mnnlaxer" title="Special:Contributions/Mnnlaxer">stalk</a> 17:44, 25 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mnnlaxer|2019-07-25T17:44:00.000Z|Help_with_color_overlap_problem&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-25T17:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mnnlaxer&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Mnnlaxer|2019-07-25T17:44:00.000Z|Help_with_color_overlap_problem"></span>
+<p>Thanks <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> for figuring out the code and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gonnym" title="User:Gonnym">Gonnym</a> for fixing MOS issues, including removing the hidden tables. Onward and upward with the arts! --- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mnnlaxer" title="User:Mnnlaxer">Mnnlaxer</a> | <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mnnlaxer" title="User talk:Mnnlaxer"><span style="font-weight:normal">talk</span></a> | <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mnnlaxer" title="Special:Contributions/Mnnlaxer">stalk</a> 17:44, 25 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mnnlaxer|2019-07-25T17:44:00.000Z|Help_with_color_overlap_problem&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-25T17:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mnnlaxer&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Mnnlaxer|2019-07-25T17:44:00.000Z|Help_with_color_overlap_problem"></span>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QuackGuru|2019-07-25T18:51:00.000Z|Request_bot_for_auto_archiving_2"></span>For two talk pages. See <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Juul">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Juul</a> and see <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Pax_Labs">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Pax_Labs</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:QuackGuru&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:QuackGuru (page does not exist)"><b style="color: #e34234;">QuackGuru</b></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QuackGuru" title="User talk:QuackGuru"><span style="color: #B02200;">talk</span></a>) 18:51, 25 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QuackGuru|2019-07-25T18:51:00.000Z|Request_bot_for_auto_archiving_2&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-25T19:02:00.000Z|QuackGuru|2019-07-25T18:51:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-25T18:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QuackGuru&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QuackGuru|2019-07-25T18:51:00.000Z|Request_bot_for_auto_archiving_2"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QuackGuru|2019-07-25T18:51:00.000Z|Request_bot_for_auto_archiving_2"></span>For two talk pages. See <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Juul">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Juul</a> and see <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Pax_Labs">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Pax_Labs</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:QuackGuru&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:QuackGuru (page does not exist)"><b style="color: #e34234;">QuackGuru</b></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QuackGuru" title="User talk:QuackGuru"><span style="color: #B02200;">talk</span></a>) 18:51, 25 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QuackGuru|2019-07-25T18:51:00.000Z|Request_bot_for_auto_archiving_2&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-25T19:02:00.000Z|QuackGuru|2019-07-25T18:51:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-25T18:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QuackGuru&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QuackGuru|2019-07-25T18:51:00.000Z|Request_bot_for_auto_archiving_2"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-25T19:02:00.000Z|QuackGuru|2019-07-25T18:51:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:QuackGuru&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:QuackGuru (page does not exist)">QuackGuru</a>:</span> see <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Archiving_a_talk_page#Automated_archiving" title="Help:Archiving a talk page">Help:Archiving_a_talk_page#Automated_archiving</a> for some code snippet you can put on a page to request bot archiving functionality. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 19:02, 25 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-25T19:02:00.000Z|QuackGuru|2019-07-25T18:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-25T19:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-25T19:02:00.000Z|QuackGuru|2019-07-25T18:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-25T19:02:00.000Z|QuackGuru|2019-07-25T18:51:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:QuackGuru&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:QuackGuru (page does not exist)">QuackGuru</a>:</span> see <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Archiving_a_talk_page#Automated_archiving" title="Help:Archiving a talk page">Help:Archiving_a_talk_page#Automated_archiving</a> for some code snippet you can put on a page to request bot archiving functionality. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 19:02, 25 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-25T19:02:00.000Z|QuackGuru|2019-07-25T18:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-25T19:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-25T19:02:00.000Z|QuackGuru|2019-07-25T18:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id="Local_en.wp_gadget_.22Allow_navigation_menus_to_be_collapsed.22_causes_sidebar_items_to_be_indented"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Local_en.wp_gadget_&quot;Allow_navigation_menus_to_be_collapsed&quot;_causes_sidebar_items_to_be_indented" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Local_en.wp_gadget_\&quot;Allow_navigation_menus_to_be_collapsed\&quot;_causes_sidebar_items|2019-07-26T08:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Monniasza|2019-07-26T08:54:00.000Z|Local_en.wp_gadget_\&quot;Allow_navigation_menus_to_be_collapsed\&quot;_causes_sidebar_items&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Local_en.wp_gadget_&quot;Allow_navigation_menus_to_be_collapsed&quot;_causes_sidebar_items|2019-07-26T08:54:00.000Z"></span>Local en.wp gadget "Allow navigation menus to be collapsed" causes sidebar items to be indented<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Local_en.wp_gadget_&quot;Allow_navigation_menus_to_be_collapsed&quot;_causes_sidebar_items|2019-07-26T08:54:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Monniasza|2019-07-26T08:54:00.000Z|Local_en.wp_gadget_&quot;Allow_navigation_menus_to_be_collapsed&quot;_causes_sidebar_items"></span>Hi, i am <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Monniasza" title="User:Monniasza">Monniasza</a>, and I have found bug in "Allow navigation menus to be collapsed" gadget.
 It causes sidebar to get malformed by icorrectly indenting its contents.
@@ -1428,12 +1428,12 @@ It causes sidebar to get malformed by icorrectly indenting its contents.
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 <dl><dt>Expected Results</dt></dl>
 <p>Navigation menus can be collapsed
-</p><p><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Monniasza" title="User:Monniasza">Monniasza</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Monniasza" title="User talk:Monniasza">talk</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Monniasza" title="Special:Contributions/Monniasza">edits</a> 08:54, 26 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Monniasza|2019-07-26T08:54:00.000Z|Local_en.wp_gadget_\&quot;Allow_navigation_menus_to_be_collapsed\&quot;_causes_sidebar_items&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-26T09:44:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-07-26T08:54:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-26T08:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Monniasza&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Monniasza|2019-07-26T08:54:00.000Z|Local_en.wp_gadget_&quot;Allow_navigation_menus_to_be_collapsed&quot;_causes_sidebar_items"></span>
+</p><p><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Monniasza" title="User:Monniasza">Monniasza</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Monniasza" title="User talk:Monniasza">talk</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Monniasza" title="Special:Contributions/Monniasza">edits</a> 08:54, 26 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Monniasza|2019-07-26T08:54:00.000Z|Local_en.wp_gadget_\&quot;Allow_navigation_menus_to_be_collapsed\&quot;_causes_sidebar_items&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-26T09:44:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-07-26T08:54:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-26T08:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Monniasza&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Monniasza|2019-07-26T08:54:00.000Z|Local_en.wp_gadget_&quot;Allow_navigation_menus_to_be_collapsed&quot;_causes_sidebar_items"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-26T09:44:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-07-26T08:54:00.000Z"></span>What is your browser? What is your skin at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering" title="Special:Preferences">Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering</a>? It's indented but collapsing works for me in Google Chrome and Internet Explorer. I guess the indentation is intentional and wouldn't call it malformed. Are you saying that it doesn't work for you, or that you just don't like the indentation? The code is in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-CollapsibleNav.js" title="MediaWiki:Gadget-CollapsibleNav.js">MediaWiki:Gadget-CollapsibleNav.js</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-CollapsibleNav.css" title="MediaWiki:Gadget-CollapsibleNav.css">MediaWiki:Gadget-CollapsibleNav.css</a>. Example without enabling the gadget in preferences: <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example?withJS=MediaWiki:Gadget-CollapsibleNav.js&amp;withCSS=MediaWiki:Gadget-CollapsibleNav.css">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example?withJS=MediaWiki:Gadget-CollapsibleNav.js&amp;withCSS=MediaWiki:Gadget-CollapsibleNav.css</a>. Example with the JavaScript but not the CSS (don't enable the gadget): <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example?withJS=MediaWiki:Gadget-CollapsibleNav.js">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example?withJS=MediaWiki:Gadget-CollapsibleNav.js</a>. Does that work better for you? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 09:44, 26 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-26T09:44:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-07-26T08:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Monniasza|2019-07-26T17:41:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-26T09:44:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-26T09:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-26T09:44:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-07-26T08:54:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Monniasza|2019-07-26T17:41:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-26T09:44:00.000Z"></span>I used Google Chrome browser, Vector skin.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Monniasza" title="User:Monniasza">Monniasza</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Monniasza" title="User talk:Monniasza">talk</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Monniasza" title="Special:Contributions/Monniasza">edits</a> 17:41, 26 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Monniasza|2019-07-26T17:41:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-26T09:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-26T17:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Monniasza&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Monniasza|2019-07-26T17:41:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-26T09:44:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-26T09:44:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-07-26T08:54:00.000Z"></span>What is your browser? What is your skin at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering" title="Special:Preferences">Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering</a>? It's indented but collapsing works for me in Google Chrome and Internet Explorer. I guess the indentation is intentional and wouldn't call it malformed. Are you saying that it doesn't work for you, or that you just don't like the indentation? The code is in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-CollapsibleNav.js" title="MediaWiki:Gadget-CollapsibleNav.js">MediaWiki:Gadget-CollapsibleNav.js</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-CollapsibleNav.css" title="MediaWiki:Gadget-CollapsibleNav.css">MediaWiki:Gadget-CollapsibleNav.css</a>. Example without enabling the gadget in preferences: <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example?withJS=MediaWiki:Gadget-CollapsibleNav.js&amp;withCSS=MediaWiki:Gadget-CollapsibleNav.css">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example?withJS=MediaWiki:Gadget-CollapsibleNav.js&amp;withCSS=MediaWiki:Gadget-CollapsibleNav.css</a>. Example with the JavaScript but not the CSS (don't enable the gadget): <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example?withJS=MediaWiki:Gadget-CollapsibleNav.js">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example?withJS=MediaWiki:Gadget-CollapsibleNav.js</a>. Does that work better for you? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 09:44, 26 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-26T09:44:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-07-26T08:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Monniasza|2019-07-26T17:41:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-26T09:44:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-26T09:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-26T09:44:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-07-26T08:54:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Monniasza|2019-07-26T17:41:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-26T09:44:00.000Z"></span>I used Google Chrome browser, Vector skin.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Monniasza" title="User:Monniasza">Monniasza</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Monniasza" title="User talk:Monniasza">talk</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Monniasza" title="Special:Contributions/Monniasza">edits</a> 17:41, 26 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Monniasza|2019-07-26T17:41:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-26T09:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-26T17:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Monniasza&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Monniasza|2019-07-26T17:41:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-26T09:44:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Undo_script" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Undo_script|2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z|Undo_script&quot;,&quot;h|Questions|Undo_script&quot;,&quot;h|Discussion|Undo_script|2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;h|User_survey|Undo_script|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Undo_script|2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z"></span>Undo script<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Undo_script|2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:FR30799386/undo.js" class="extiw" title="meta:User:FR30799386/undo.js"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z|Undo_script"></span>mobileUndo</a> script is an userscript created for mobile. It basically adds a button to revert the latest revision of an article while previewing a diff on the mobile website. Currently there isn't any undo feature in mobile version of the mediawiki software (as far as I know).  It meets the general criteria for gadgets and I have the original creator's permission. Therefore I am proposing this script to be approved as a gadget. Should we approve of this script as a gadget? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Masumrezarock100" title="User:Masumrezarock100"><u style="color:#087643;font-face:arial;text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;"><i><b>Masum Reza</b></i></u></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masumrezarock100" title="User talk:Masumrezarock100"><sup style="color:orange;"><i>📞</i></sup></a> 12:01, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z|Undo_script&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Masumrezarock100&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z|Undo_script"></span>
+<p><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:FR30799386/undo.js" class="extiw" title="meta:User:FR30799386/undo.js"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z|Undo_script"></span>mobileUndo</a> script is an userscript created for mobile. It basically adds a button to revert the latest revision of an article while previewing a diff on the mobile website. Currently there isn't any undo feature in mobile version of the mediawiki software (as far as I know).  It meets the general criteria for gadgets and I have the original creator's permission. Therefore I am proposing this script to be approved as a gadget. Should we approve of this script as a gadget? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Masumrezarock100" title="User:Masumrezarock100"><u style="color:#087643;font-face:arial;text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;"><i><b>Masum Reza</b></i></u></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masumrezarock100" title="User talk:Masumrezarock100"><sup style="color:orange;"><i>📞</i></sup></a> 12:01, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z|Undo_script&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Masumrezarock100&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z|Undo_script"></span>
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 <dl><dd><b>Source code</b> – <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:FR30799386/undo.js" class="extiw" title="meta:User:FR30799386/undo.js">Here</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DannyS712/Undo.js" title="User:DannyS712/Undo.js">maintainer's copy</a>, <s>probably outdated</s>)</dd>
 <dd><b>Author</b> – <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:FR30799386" class="extiw" title="meta:User:FR30799386">meta:User:FR30799386</a></dd>
@@ -1459,39 +1459,39 @@ It causes sidebar to get malformed by icorrectly indenting its contents.
 <dt>7 Does it have cross-wiki compatibility?</dt>
 <dd>Yes it has. I've tested this script myself on meta, Japanese Wikipedia, Wikidata and test wiki. It even generates edit summary in other languages on other wikis.</dd></dl>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z|Discussion"></span>I am willing to answer any questions you may have about this script (please ping me when you reply). Thanks. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Masumrezarock100" title="User:Masumrezarock100"><u style="color:#087643;font-face:arial;text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;"><i><b>Masum Reza</b></i></u></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masumrezarock100" title="User talk:Masumrezarock100"><sup style="color:orange;"><i>📞</i></sup></a> 12:01, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z|Discussion&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DannyS712|2019-06-28T15:44:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-06-29T12:08:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-07-13T08:45:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Masumrezarock100&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z|Discussion"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z|Discussion"></span>I am willing to answer any questions you may have about this script (please ping me when you reply). Thanks. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Masumrezarock100" title="User:Masumrezarock100"><u style="color:#087643;font-face:arial;text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;"><i><b>Masum Reza</b></i></u></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masumrezarock100" title="User talk:Masumrezarock100"><sup style="color:orange;"><i>📞</i></sup></a> 12:01, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z|Discussion&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DannyS712|2019-06-28T15:44:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-06-29T12:08:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-07-13T08:45:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Masumrezarock100&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z|Discussion"></span>
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-<dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DannyS712|2019-06-28T15:44:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Masumrezarock100" title="User:Masumrezarock100">Masumrezarock100</a>:</span> Noting that I have synced my version with FR's on meta - I plan to make some optimization tweaks, but otherwise it should be good to go --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DannyS712" title="User:DannyS712">DannyS712</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DannyS712" title="User talk:DannyS712">talk</a>) 15:44, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DannyS712|2019-06-28T15:44:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T20:48:00.000Z|DannyS712|2019-06-28T15:44:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T15:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DannyS712&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DannyS712|2019-06-28T15:44:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T20:48:00.000Z|DannyS712|2019-06-28T15:44:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DannyS712" title="User:DannyS712">DannyS712</a>:</span> Thanks Danny. What do you think the suggestion in my answer to the 5th question. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Masumrezarock100" title="User:Masumrezarock100"><u style="color:#087643;font-face:arial;text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;"><i><b>Masum Reza</b></i></u></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masumrezarock100" title="User talk:Masumrezarock100"><sup style="color:orange;"><i>📞</i></sup></a> 20:48, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T20:48:00.000Z|DannyS712|2019-06-28T15:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DannyS712|2019-06-28T20:50:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T20:48:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T20:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Masumrezarock100&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T20:48:00.000Z|DannyS712|2019-06-28T15:44:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DannyS712|2019-06-28T20:50:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T20:48:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Masumrezarock100" title="User:Masumrezarock100">Masumrezarock100</a>:</span> That can be set very easily if the script is a gadget (see <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Gadgets" class="extiw" title="mw:Extension:Gadgets">mw:Extension:Gadgets</a>) - but as just a user script, its harder to implement. I think its fine to leave it as it is, with the understanding that if it is enabled as a gadget it should, like twinkle, require autoconfirmed. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DannyS712" title="User:DannyS712">DannyS712</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DannyS712" title="User talk:DannyS712">talk</a>) 20:50, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DannyS712|2019-06-28T20:50:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T20:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T20:59:00.000Z|DannyS712|2019-06-28T20:50:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T20:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DannyS712&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DannyS712|2019-06-28T20:50:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T20:48:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T20:59:00.000Z|DannyS712|2019-06-28T20:50:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DannyS712" title="User:DannyS712">DannyS712</a>:</span> I see. Since it has cross-wiki compatibility, I highly suggest we make this a global gadget, what do you think? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Masumrezarock100" title="User:Masumrezarock100"><u style="color:#087643;font-face:arial;text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;"><i><b>Masum Reza</b></i></u></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masumrezarock100" title="User talk:Masumrezarock100"><sup style="color:orange;"><i>📞</i></sup></a> 20:59, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T20:59:00.000Z|DannyS712|2019-06-28T20:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DannyS712|2019-06-28T21:06:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T20:59:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T20:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Masumrezarock100&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T20:59:00.000Z|DannyS712|2019-06-28T20:50:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DannyS712|2019-06-28T21:06:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T20:59:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Masumrezarock100" title="User:Masumrezarock100">Masumrezarock100</a>:</span> well, I don't think those exist yet. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DannyS712" title="User:DannyS712">DannyS712</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DannyS712" title="User talk:DannyS712">talk</a>) 21:06, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DannyS712|2019-06-28T21:06:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T20:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T21:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DannyS712&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DannyS712|2019-06-28T21:06:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T20:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-06-29T12:08:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Masumrezarock100" title="User:Masumrezarock100">Masumrezarock100</a>:</span> Please observe how this RfC <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Wikipedia_technical_issues_and_templates&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=903934841">is currently listed</a></span> at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:RFC/TECH" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RFC/TECH">WP:RFC/TECH</a>, and include a brief, neutral statement of or question about the issue immediately below the <code>{{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Rfc" title="Template:Rfc">rfc</a>}}</code> tag, in accordance with <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:RFCST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RFCST">WP:RFCST</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:RFCBRIEF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RFCBRIEF">WP:RFCBRIEF</a>. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 12:08, 29 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-06-29T12:08:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T12:59:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-06-29T12:08:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-29T12:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-06-29T12:08:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T12:59:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-06-29T12:08:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64">Redrose64</a>:</span> Done. I am very new in this RfC stuff. Thanks for pointing out my mistakes.<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Masumrezarock100" title="User:Masumrezarock100"><u style="color:#087643;font-face:arial;text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;"><i><b>Masum Reza</b></i></u></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masumrezarock100" title="User talk:Masumrezarock100"><sup style="color:orange;"><i>📞</i></sup></a> 12:59, 29 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T12:59:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-06-29T12:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-06-29T13:33:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T12:59:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-29T12:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Masumrezarock100&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T12:59:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-06-29T12:08:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-06-29T13:33:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T12:59:00.000Z"></span>It's now worse, in that <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Wikipedia_technical_issues_and_templates&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=904022998">nothing is now displayed</a></span> other than the link. You <i>need</i> a timestamp (if not a full signature) after the statement so that Legobot knows where to stop parsing: <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:RFCST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RFCST">WP:RFCST</a> does state "Failing to provide a time and date will cause Legobot to remove your discussion from the pages that notify interested editors of RfCs." and that is precisely what has happened here. At the moment, the first timestamp that it encounters is the one at the start of this "Discussion" subthread, by which time the statement is no longer neutral and certainly not brief. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 13:33, 29 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-06-29T13:33:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T12:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-29T13:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-06-29T13:33:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T12:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-07-13T08:45:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z"></span>To <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alsee" title="User:Alsee">Alsee</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:North8000" title="User:North8000">North8000</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DannyS712" title="User:DannyS712">DannyS712</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Killiondude" title="User:Killiondude">Killiondude</a>,  and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RainFall" class="mw-redirect" title="User:RainFall">RainFall</a>:</span>, who participated in this discussion, How about importing this script to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Minerva.js" title="MediaWiki:Minerva.js">Mediawiki:Minerva.js</a> or <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Mobile.js" title="MediaWiki:Mobile.js">Mediawiki:mobile.js</a> as only JavaScript that gets executed on mobile is at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Minerva.js" title="MediaWiki:Minerva.js">Mediawiki:Minerva.js</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Mobile.js" title="MediaWiki:Mobile.js">Mediawiki:mobile.js</a>. Both of them are almost empty, so I don't see a problem here. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Masumrezarock100" title="User:Masumrezarock100"><u style="color:#087643;font-face:arial;text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;"><i><b>Masum Reza</b></i></u></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masumrezarock100" title="User talk:Masumrezarock100"><sup style="color:orange;"><i>📞</i></sup></a> 08:45, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-07-13T08:45:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-07-13T08:49:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-07-13T08:45:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T08:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Masumrezarock100&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-07-13T08:45:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-07-13T08:49:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-07-13T08:45:00.000Z"></span>Fixing ping <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rutilant" title="User:Rutilant">Rutilant</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Masumrezarock100" title="User:Masumrezarock100"><u style="color:#087643;font-face:arial;text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;"><i><b>Masum Reza</b></i></u></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masumrezarock100" title="User talk:Masumrezarock100"><sup style="color:orange;"><i>📞</i></sup></a> 08:49, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-07-13T08:49:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-07-13T08:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|North8000|2019-07-13T21:13:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-07-13T08:49:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T08:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Masumrezarock100&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-07-13T08:49:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-07-13T08:45:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|North8000|2019-07-13T21:13:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-07-13T08:49:00.000Z"></span>I don't have the knowledge of those things/terms to respond. <b style="color: #0000cc;"><i>North8000</i></b> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:North8000#top" title="User talk:North8000">talk</a>) 21:13, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|North8000|2019-07-13T21:13:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-07-13T08:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T21:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;North8000&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|North8000|2019-07-13T21:13:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-07-13T08:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DannyS712|2019-06-28T15:44:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Masumrezarock100" title="User:Masumrezarock100">Masumrezarock100</a>:</span> Noting that I have synced my version with FR's on meta - I plan to make some optimization tweaks, but otherwise it should be good to go --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DannyS712" title="User:DannyS712">DannyS712</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DannyS712" title="User talk:DannyS712">talk</a>) 15:44, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DannyS712|2019-06-28T15:44:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T20:48:00.000Z|DannyS712|2019-06-28T15:44:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T15:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DannyS712&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DannyS712|2019-06-28T15:44:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T20:48:00.000Z|DannyS712|2019-06-28T15:44:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DannyS712" title="User:DannyS712">DannyS712</a>:</span> Thanks Danny. What do you think the suggestion in my answer to the 5th question. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Masumrezarock100" title="User:Masumrezarock100"><u style="color:#087643;font-face:arial;text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;"><i><b>Masum Reza</b></i></u></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masumrezarock100" title="User talk:Masumrezarock100"><sup style="color:orange;"><i>📞</i></sup></a> 20:48, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T20:48:00.000Z|DannyS712|2019-06-28T15:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DannyS712|2019-06-28T20:50:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T20:48:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T20:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Masumrezarock100&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T20:48:00.000Z|DannyS712|2019-06-28T15:44:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DannyS712|2019-06-28T20:50:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T20:48:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Masumrezarock100" title="User:Masumrezarock100">Masumrezarock100</a>:</span> That can be set very easily if the script is a gadget (see <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Gadgets" class="extiw" title="mw:Extension:Gadgets">mw:Extension:Gadgets</a>) - but as just a user script, its harder to implement. I think its fine to leave it as it is, with the understanding that if it is enabled as a gadget it should, like twinkle, require autoconfirmed. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DannyS712" title="User:DannyS712">DannyS712</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DannyS712" title="User talk:DannyS712">talk</a>) 20:50, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DannyS712|2019-06-28T20:50:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T20:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T20:59:00.000Z|DannyS712|2019-06-28T20:50:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T20:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DannyS712&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DannyS712|2019-06-28T20:50:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T20:48:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T20:59:00.000Z|DannyS712|2019-06-28T20:50:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DannyS712" title="User:DannyS712">DannyS712</a>:</span> I see. Since it has cross-wiki compatibility, I highly suggest we make this a global gadget, what do you think? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Masumrezarock100" title="User:Masumrezarock100"><u style="color:#087643;font-face:arial;text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;"><i><b>Masum Reza</b></i></u></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masumrezarock100" title="User talk:Masumrezarock100"><sup style="color:orange;"><i>📞</i></sup></a> 20:59, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T20:59:00.000Z|DannyS712|2019-06-28T20:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DannyS712|2019-06-28T21:06:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T20:59:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T20:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Masumrezarock100&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T20:59:00.000Z|DannyS712|2019-06-28T20:50:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DannyS712|2019-06-28T21:06:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T20:59:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Masumrezarock100" title="User:Masumrezarock100">Masumrezarock100</a>:</span> well, I don't think those exist yet. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DannyS712" title="User:DannyS712">DannyS712</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DannyS712" title="User talk:DannyS712">talk</a>) 21:06, 28 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DannyS712|2019-06-28T21:06:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T20:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-28T21:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DannyS712&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DannyS712|2019-06-28T21:06:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T20:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-06-29T12:08:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Masumrezarock100" title="User:Masumrezarock100">Masumrezarock100</a>:</span> Please observe how this RfC <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Wikipedia_technical_issues_and_templates&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=903934841">is currently listed</a></span> at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:RFC/TECH" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RFC/TECH">WP:RFC/TECH</a>, and include a brief, neutral statement of or question about the issue immediately below the <code>{{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Rfc" title="Template:Rfc">rfc</a>}}</code> tag, in accordance with <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:RFCST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RFCST">WP:RFCST</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:RFCBRIEF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RFCBRIEF">WP:RFCBRIEF</a>. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 12:08, 29 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-06-29T12:08:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T12:59:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-06-29T12:08:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-29T12:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-06-29T12:08:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T12:59:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-06-29T12:08:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64">Redrose64</a>:</span> Done. I am very new in this RfC stuff. Thanks for pointing out my mistakes.<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Masumrezarock100" title="User:Masumrezarock100"><u style="color:#087643;font-face:arial;text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;"><i><b>Masum Reza</b></i></u></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masumrezarock100" title="User talk:Masumrezarock100"><sup style="color:orange;"><i>📞</i></sup></a> 12:59, 29 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T12:59:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-06-29T12:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-06-29T13:33:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T12:59:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-29T12:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Masumrezarock100&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T12:59:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-06-29T12:08:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-06-29T13:33:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T12:59:00.000Z"></span>It's now worse, in that <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Wikipedia_technical_issues_and_templates&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=904022998">nothing is now displayed</a></span> other than the link. You <i>need</i> a timestamp (if not a full signature) after the statement so that Legobot knows where to stop parsing: <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:RFCST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RFCST">WP:RFCST</a> does state "Failing to provide a time and date will cause Legobot to remove your discussion from the pages that notify interested editors of RfCs." and that is precisely what has happened here. At the moment, the first timestamp that it encounters is the one at the start of this "Discussion" subthread, by which time the statement is no longer neutral and certainly not brief. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 13:33, 29 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-06-29T13:33:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T12:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-29T13:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-06-29T13:33:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T12:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-07-13T08:45:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z"></span>To <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alsee" title="User:Alsee">Alsee</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:North8000" title="User:North8000">North8000</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DannyS712" title="User:DannyS712">DannyS712</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Killiondude" title="User:Killiondude">Killiondude</a>,  and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RainFall" class="mw-redirect" title="User:RainFall">RainFall</a>:</span>, who participated in this discussion, How about importing this script to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Minerva.js" title="MediaWiki:Minerva.js">Mediawiki:Minerva.js</a> or <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Mobile.js" title="MediaWiki:Mobile.js">Mediawiki:mobile.js</a> as only JavaScript that gets executed on mobile is at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Minerva.js" title="MediaWiki:Minerva.js">Mediawiki:Minerva.js</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Mobile.js" title="MediaWiki:Mobile.js">Mediawiki:mobile.js</a>. Both of them are almost empty, so I don't see a problem here. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Masumrezarock100" title="User:Masumrezarock100"><u style="color:#087643;font-face:arial;text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;"><i><b>Masum Reza</b></i></u></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masumrezarock100" title="User talk:Masumrezarock100"><sup style="color:orange;"><i>📞</i></sup></a> 08:45, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-07-13T08:45:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-07-13T08:49:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-07-13T08:45:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T08:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Masumrezarock100&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-07-13T08:45:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-28T12:01:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-07-13T08:49:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-07-13T08:45:00.000Z"></span>Fixing ping <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rutilant" title="User:Rutilant">Rutilant</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Masumrezarock100" title="User:Masumrezarock100"><u style="color:#087643;font-face:arial;text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;"><i><b>Masum Reza</b></i></u></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masumrezarock100" title="User talk:Masumrezarock100"><sup style="color:orange;"><i>📞</i></sup></a> 08:49, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-07-13T08:49:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-07-13T08:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|North8000|2019-07-13T21:13:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-07-13T08:49:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T08:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Masumrezarock100&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-07-13T08:49:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-07-13T08:45:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|North8000|2019-07-13T21:13:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-07-13T08:49:00.000Z"></span>I don't have the knowledge of those things/terms to respond. <b style="color: #0000cc;"><i>North8000</i></b> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:North8000#top" title="User talk:North8000">talk</a>) 21:13, 13 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|North8000|2019-07-13T21:13:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-07-13T08:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-13T21:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;North8000&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|North8000|2019-07-13T21:13:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-07-13T08:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h3><span class="mw-headline" id="User_survey" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|User_survey|Undo_script|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z|User_survey&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:3,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|User_survey|Undo_script|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z"></span>User survey<span data-mw-comment-end="h|User_survey|Undo_script|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z"></span></span></h3>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z|User_survey"></span>Please state your vote using '''Support'' or '''Oppose'''. Explain why if you choose the latter option. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Masumrezarock100" title="User:Masumrezarock100"><u style="color:#087643;font-face:arial;text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;"><i><b>Masum Reza</b></i></u></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masumrezarock100" title="User talk:Masumrezarock100"><sup style="color:orange;"><i>📞</i></sup></a> 05:07, 29 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z|User_survey&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Killiondude|2019-06-29T19:53:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|SSSB|2019-07-07T09:51:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Alsee|2019-07-07T13:27:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|North8000|2019-07-10T13:04:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|SD0001|2019-07-21T16:59:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Enterprisey|2019-07-27T08:54:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Masumrezarock100&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z|User_survey"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z|User_survey"></span>Please state your vote using '''Support'' or '''Oppose'''. Explain why if you choose the latter option. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Masumrezarock100" title="User:Masumrezarock100"><u style="color:#087643;font-face:arial;text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;"><i><b>Masum Reza</b></i></u></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masumrezarock100" title="User talk:Masumrezarock100"><sup style="color:orange;"><i>📞</i></sup></a> 05:07, 29 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z|User_survey&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Killiondude|2019-06-29T19:53:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|SSSB|2019-07-07T09:51:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Alsee|2019-07-07T13:27:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|North8000|2019-07-10T13:04:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|SD0001|2019-07-21T16:59:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Enterprisey|2019-07-27T08:54:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Masumrezarock100&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z|User_survey"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Killiondude|2019-06-29T19:53:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z"></span>I'm a bit baffled by your second sentence. By nature of this being an addition, the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onus" class="mw-disambig" title="Onus">onus</a> is on the supporters to explain why it should be added. However, in discussions like these, explanations from both sides would be useful to all. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Killiondude" title="User:Killiondude">Killiondude</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Killiondude" title="User talk:Killiondude">talk</a>) 19:53, 29 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Killiondude|2019-06-29T19:53:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T22:15:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-29T19:53:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-29T19:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Killiondude&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Killiondude|2019-06-29T19:53:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T22:15:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-29T19:53:00.000Z"></span>I meant that one must add a reason if they oppose it. Explanation from Support side is helpful as well but I am not explicitly asking them to state their reason. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Masumrezarock100" title="User:Masumrezarock100"><u style="color:#087643;font-face:arial;text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;"><i><b>Masum Reza</b></i></u></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masumrezarock100" title="User talk:Masumrezarock100"><sup style="color:orange;"><i>📞</i></sup></a> 22:15, 29 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T22:15:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-29T19:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RainFall|2019-07-01T08:07:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T22:15:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-29T22:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Masumrezarock100&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T22:15:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-29T19:53:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RainFall|2019-07-01T08:07:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T22:15:00.000Z"></span>To support: say "aye"; to oppose: rehash the Bible. —<b style="font-variant: all-small-caps;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RainFall" class="mw-redirect" title="User:RainFall"><b style="background: black; color:white; padding: 1.5px 0 1.5px 4px;">Rain</b></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RainFall" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:RainFall"><b style="background: #545454; color:white; padding: 1.5px 4px 1.5px 0">Fall</b></a></b> 08:07, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span data-mw-comment-end="c|RainFall|2019-07-01T08:07:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T22:15:00.000Z"></span></small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RainFall|2019-07-01T08:07:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T22:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T08:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RainFall&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SSSB|2019-07-07T09:51:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z"></span>Support</b> - This would be really helpful, whenever I want to undo on my mobile I have to go to desktop view which is just a pain. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SSSB" title="User:SSSB">SSSB</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SSSB" title="User talk:SSSB">talk</a>) 09:51, 7 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SSSB|2019-07-07T09:51:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-07T09:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SSSB&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SSSB|2019-07-07T09:51:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Alsee|2019-07-07T13:27:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z"></span>Instead</b> we should ask the Foundation to Undo their removal of Undo from mobile. Creating a gadget to put Undo back is pretty absurd, unless it is the only way to get this fixed. I don't use mobile, and while I know the Foundation has badly crippled basic functionality on mobile I had no idea that they removed the undo link. That's pretty bad. If/when there's a clear majority here to ask the Foundation to fix this, give me a ping and I'll be happy to open a phabricator task and push for action. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alsee" title="User:Alsee">Alsee</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Alsee" title="User talk:Alsee">talk</a>) 13:27, 7 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Alsee|2019-07-07T13:27:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Izno|2019-07-07T13:52:00.000Z|Alsee|2019-07-07T13:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-07T13:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Alsee&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Alsee|2019-07-07T13:27:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Izno|2019-07-07T13:52:00.000Z|Alsee|2019-07-07T13:27:00.000Z"></span>There's never been an undo button in mobile, basically, so I do not know why you think they removed it. See <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87609" class="extiw" title="phab:T87609">phab:T87609</a>. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 13:52, 7 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Izno|2019-07-07T13:52:00.000Z|Alsee|2019-07-07T13:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-07T13:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Izno&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Izno|2019-07-07T13:52:00.000Z|Alsee|2019-07-07T13:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></li>
-<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|North8000|2019-07-10T13:04:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z"></span>Weak support</b>  (invited by the bot) I favor simplicity vs. trimming seconds off of the "revert" time, but it looks like its inclusion is optional, and that lots of good work has been done. <b style="color: #0000cc;"><i>North8000</i></b> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:North8000#top" title="User talk:North8000">talk</a>) 13:04, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|North8000|2019-07-10T13:04:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T13:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;North8000&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|North8000|2019-07-10T13:04:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SD0001|2019-07-21T16:59:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z"></span>Support</b> as a non-default gadget. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SD0001" title="User:SD0001">SD0001</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SD0001" title="User talk:SD0001">talk</a>) 16:59, 21 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SD0001|2019-07-21T16:59:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-21T16:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SD0001&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SD0001|2019-07-21T16:59:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Enterprisey|2019-07-27T08:54:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z"></span>Well</b>, it would be nice if jQuery or something was used instead of constructing long HTML strings directly. See also <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/906098886#Undo_on_mobile" title="Special:PermanentLink/906098886">Musik's comments on his talk page</a>, which I think should probably be addressed. Gadgets do run on the mobile skin, right? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Enterprisey" title="User:Enterprisey">Enterprisey</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Enterprisey" title="User talk:Enterprisey">talk!</a>) 08:54, 27 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Enterprisey|2019-07-27T08:54:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-27T08:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Enterprisey&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Enterprisey|2019-07-27T08:54:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Killiondude|2019-06-29T19:53:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z"></span>I'm a bit baffled by your second sentence. By nature of this being an addition, the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onus" class="mw-disambig" title="Onus">onus</a> is on the supporters to explain why it should be added. However, in discussions like these, explanations from both sides would be useful to all. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Killiondude" title="User:Killiondude">Killiondude</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Killiondude" title="User talk:Killiondude">talk</a>) 19:53, 29 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Killiondude|2019-06-29T19:53:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T22:15:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-29T19:53:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-29T19:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Killiondude&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Killiondude|2019-06-29T19:53:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T22:15:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-29T19:53:00.000Z"></span>I meant that one must add a reason if they oppose it. Explanation from Support side is helpful as well but I am not explicitly asking them to state their reason. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Masumrezarock100" title="User:Masumrezarock100"><u style="color:#087643;font-face:arial;text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;"><i><b>Masum Reza</b></i></u></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masumrezarock100" title="User talk:Masumrezarock100"><sup style="color:orange;"><i>📞</i></sup></a> 22:15, 29 June 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T22:15:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-29T19:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RainFall|2019-07-01T08:07:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T22:15:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-06-29T22:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Masumrezarock100&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T22:15:00.000Z|Killiondude|2019-06-29T19:53:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RainFall|2019-07-01T08:07:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T22:15:00.000Z"></span>To support: say "aye"; to oppose: rehash the Bible. —<b style="font-variant: all-small-caps;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RainFall" class="mw-redirect" title="User:RainFall"><b style="background: black; color:white; padding: 1.5px 0 1.5px 4px;">Rain</b></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RainFall" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:RainFall"><b style="background: #545454; color:white; padding: 1.5px 4px 1.5px 0">Fall</b></a></b> 08:07, 1 July 2019 (UTC)<span data-mw-comment-end="c|RainFall|2019-07-01T08:07:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T22:15:00.000Z"></span></small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RainFall|2019-07-01T08:07:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T22:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-01T08:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RainFall&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SSSB|2019-07-07T09:51:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z"></span>Support</b> - This would be really helpful, whenever I want to undo on my mobile I have to go to desktop view which is just a pain. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SSSB" title="User:SSSB">SSSB</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SSSB" title="User talk:SSSB">talk</a>) 09:51, 7 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SSSB|2019-07-07T09:51:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-07T09:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SSSB&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SSSB|2019-07-07T09:51:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Alsee|2019-07-07T13:27:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z"></span>Instead</b> we should ask the Foundation to Undo their removal of Undo from mobile. Creating a gadget to put Undo back is pretty absurd, unless it is the only way to get this fixed. I don't use mobile, and while I know the Foundation has badly crippled basic functionality on mobile I had no idea that they removed the undo link. That's pretty bad. If/when there's a clear majority here to ask the Foundation to fix this, give me a ping and I'll be happy to open a phabricator task and push for action. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alsee" title="User:Alsee">Alsee</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Alsee" title="User talk:Alsee">talk</a>) 13:27, 7 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Alsee|2019-07-07T13:27:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Izno|2019-07-07T13:52:00.000Z|Alsee|2019-07-07T13:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-07T13:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Alsee&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Alsee|2019-07-07T13:27:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Izno|2019-07-07T13:52:00.000Z|Alsee|2019-07-07T13:27:00.000Z"></span>There's never been an undo button in mobile, basically, so I do not know why you think they removed it. See <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87609" class="extiw" title="phab:T87609">phab:T87609</a>. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 13:52, 7 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Izno|2019-07-07T13:52:00.000Z|Alsee|2019-07-07T13:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-07T13:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Izno&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Izno|2019-07-07T13:52:00.000Z|Alsee|2019-07-07T13:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></li>
+<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|North8000|2019-07-10T13:04:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z"></span>Weak support</b>  (invited by the bot) I favor simplicity vs. trimming seconds off of the "revert" time, but it looks like its inclusion is optional, and that lots of good work has been done. <b style="color: #0000cc;"><i>North8000</i></b> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:North8000#top" title="User talk:North8000">talk</a>) 13:04, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|North8000|2019-07-10T13:04:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T13:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;North8000&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|North8000|2019-07-10T13:04:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SD0001|2019-07-21T16:59:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z"></span>Support</b> as a non-default gadget. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SD0001" title="User:SD0001">SD0001</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SD0001" title="User talk:SD0001">talk</a>) 16:59, 21 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SD0001|2019-07-21T16:59:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-21T16:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SD0001&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SD0001|2019-07-21T16:59:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Enterprisey|2019-07-27T08:54:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z"></span>Well</b>, it would be nice if jQuery or something was used instead of constructing long HTML strings directly. See also <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/906098886#Undo_on_mobile" title="Special:PermanentLink/906098886">Musik's comments on his talk page</a>, which I think should probably be addressed. Gadgets do run on the mobile skin, right? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Enterprisey" title="User:Enterprisey">Enterprisey</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Enterprisey" title="User talk:Enterprisey">talk!</a>) 08:54, 27 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Enterprisey|2019-07-27T08:54:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-27T08:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Enterprisey&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Enterprisey|2019-07-27T08:54:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-06-29T05:07:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
 <h2><span id="6_million_articles_already.3F"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="6_million_articles_already?" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|6_million_articles_already?|2019-07-28T09:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Samsara|2019-07-28T09:25:00.000Z|6_million_articles_already?&quot;,&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T12:41:00.000Z|6_million_articles_already?&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|6_million_articles_already?|2019-07-28T09:25:00.000Z"></span>6 million articles already?<span data-mw-comment-end="h|6_million_articles_already?|2019-07-28T09:25:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Samsara|2019-07-28T09:25:00.000Z|6_million_articles_already?"></span>According to the <a class="external text" href="https://stats.wikimedia.org/v2/#/en.wikipedia.org/content/pages-to-date/normal%7Cline%7Call%7Cpage_type~content%7Cmonthly">Wikimedia Statistics page</a>, we already have over 6 million articles. However, the main page says we're over 100,000 short. It seems to me these two values should be the same. Discuss? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Samsara" title="User:Samsara">Samsara</a> 09:25, 28 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Samsara|2019-07-28T09:25:00.000Z|6_million_articles_already?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Eurohunter|2019-07-28T09:43:00.000Z|Samsara|2019-07-28T09:25:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-28T09:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Samsara&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Samsara|2019-07-28T09:25:00.000Z|6_million_articles_already?"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Samsara|2019-07-28T09:25:00.000Z|6_million_articles_already?"></span>According to the <a class="external text" href="https://stats.wikimedia.org/v2/#/en.wikipedia.org/content/pages-to-date/normal%7Cline%7Call%7Cpage_type~content%7Cmonthly">Wikimedia Statistics page</a>, we already have over 6 million articles. However, the main page says we're over 100,000 short. It seems to me these two values should be the same. Discuss? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Samsara" title="User:Samsara">Samsara</a> 09:25, 28 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Samsara|2019-07-28T09:25:00.000Z|6_million_articles_already?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Eurohunter|2019-07-28T09:43:00.000Z|Samsara|2019-07-28T09:25:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-28T09:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Samsara&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Samsara|2019-07-28T09:25:00.000Z|6_million_articles_already?"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Eurohunter|2019-07-28T09:43:00.000Z|Samsara|2019-07-28T09:25:00.000Z"></span>Counter on the main page should be updated after every refresh. Why it isn't (in <b>2019</b>)? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Eurohunter" title="User:Eurohunter">Eurohunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eurohunter" title="User talk:Eurohunter">talk</a>) 09:43, 28 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Eurohunter|2019-07-28T09:43:00.000Z|Samsara|2019-07-28T09:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-28T10:13:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2019-07-28T09:43:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-28T09:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Eurohunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Eurohunter|2019-07-28T09:43:00.000Z|Samsara|2019-07-28T09:25:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-28T10:13:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2019-07-28T09:43:00.000Z"></span>The main page counter uses <code>{{NUMBEROFARTICLES}}</code> which says 5,957,430 when this is rendered. It <i>is</i> updated several times daily. Samsara's link does not claim over 6 million. The vertical axis has no number at the top. It shows a small horizontal line when the axis ends but this is not at 6 million. It is around 5.9 million. Hovering over the right side of the graph says 2019-06-01 Content 5.884.993 for me. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 10:13, 28 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-28T10:13:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2019-07-28T09:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Samsara|2019-07-28T10:58:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-28T10:13:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-28T10:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-28T10:13:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2019-07-28T09:43:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Samsara|2019-07-28T10:58:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-28T10:13:00.000Z"></span>It has a tick mark on the left. If the tick mark does not indicate 6 million, it should not be there at all. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Samsara" title="User:Samsara">Samsara</a> 10:58, 28 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Samsara|2019-07-28T10:58:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-28T10:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-28T12:21:00.000Z|Samsara|2019-07-28T10:58:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-28T10:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Samsara&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Samsara|2019-07-28T10:58:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-28T10:13:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-28T12:21:00.000Z|Samsara|2019-07-28T10:58:00.000Z"></span>I agree but it's not something we can change here. The horizontal axis has the same issue. There is a mark at the end but it's not at 2020. In that case it's currently easier to see that the last interval is shorter than between the other marks. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 12:21, 28 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-28T12:21:00.000Z|Samsara|2019-07-28T10:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-28T12:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-28T12:21:00.000Z|Samsara|2019-07-28T10:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T12:41:00.000Z|6_million_articles_already?"></span>FWIW - perhaps to keep track of the number of Articles (and more) - is the following template => <code>{{User:Dbogdan/WikipediaOverview}}</code> - hope this helps in some way - if otherwise - *entirely* ok with me to rv/rm/mv/ce the template of course - in any case - Enjoy! :) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Drbogdan" title="User talk:Drbogdan">talk</a>) 12:41, 28 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T12:41:00.000Z|6_million_articles_already?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-28T12:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Drbogdan&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T12:41:00.000Z|6_million_articles_already?"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Eurohunter|2019-07-28T09:43:00.000Z|Samsara|2019-07-28T09:25:00.000Z"></span>Counter on the main page should be updated after every refresh. Why it isn't (in <b>2019</b>)? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Eurohunter" title="User:Eurohunter">Eurohunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eurohunter" title="User talk:Eurohunter">talk</a>) 09:43, 28 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Eurohunter|2019-07-28T09:43:00.000Z|Samsara|2019-07-28T09:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-28T10:13:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2019-07-28T09:43:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-28T09:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Eurohunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Eurohunter|2019-07-28T09:43:00.000Z|Samsara|2019-07-28T09:25:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-28T10:13:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2019-07-28T09:43:00.000Z"></span>The main page counter uses <code>{{NUMBEROFARTICLES}}</code> which says 5,957,430 when this is rendered. It <i>is</i> updated several times daily. Samsara's link does not claim over 6 million. The vertical axis has no number at the top. It shows a small horizontal line when the axis ends but this is not at 6 million. It is around 5.9 million. Hovering over the right side of the graph says 2019-06-01 Content 5.884.993 for me. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 10:13, 28 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-28T10:13:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2019-07-28T09:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Samsara|2019-07-28T10:58:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-28T10:13:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-28T10:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-28T10:13:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2019-07-28T09:43:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Samsara|2019-07-28T10:58:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-28T10:13:00.000Z"></span>It has a tick mark on the left. If the tick mark does not indicate 6 million, it should not be there at all. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Samsara" title="User:Samsara">Samsara</a> 10:58, 28 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Samsara|2019-07-28T10:58:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-28T10:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-28T12:21:00.000Z|Samsara|2019-07-28T10:58:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-28T10:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Samsara&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Samsara|2019-07-28T10:58:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-28T10:13:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-28T12:21:00.000Z|Samsara|2019-07-28T10:58:00.000Z"></span>I agree but it's not something we can change here. The horizontal axis has the same issue. There is a mark at the end but it's not at 2020. In that case it's currently easier to see that the last interval is shorter than between the other marks. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 12:21, 28 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-28T12:21:00.000Z|Samsara|2019-07-28T10:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-28T12:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-28T12:21:00.000Z|Samsara|2019-07-28T10:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T12:41:00.000Z|6_million_articles_already?"></span>FWIW - perhaps to keep track of the number of Articles (and more) - is the following template => <code>{{User:Dbogdan/WikipediaOverview}}</code> - hope this helps in some way - if otherwise - *entirely* ok with me to rv/rm/mv/ce the template of course - in any case - Enjoy! :) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Drbogdan" title="User talk:Drbogdan">talk</a>) 12:41, 28 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T12:41:00.000Z|6_million_articles_already?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-28T12:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Drbogdan&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T12:41:00.000Z|6_million_articles_already?"></span>
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@@ -1509,34 +1509,34 @@ It causes sidebar to get malformed by icorrectly indenting its contents.
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 <h2><span id="Code_to_access_templates_between_Wikis.3F"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Code_to_access_templates_between_Wikis?" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Code_to_access_templates_between_Wikis?|2019-07-28T16:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T16:01:00.000Z|Code_to_access_templates_between_Wikis?&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Code_to_access_templates_between_Wikis?|2019-07-28T16:01:00.000Z"></span>Code to access templates between Wikis?<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Code_to_access_templates_between_Wikis?|2019-07-28T16:01:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T16:01:00.000Z|Code_to_access_templates_between_Wikis?"></span>QUESTION</b>: Is there some code that can access a template residing on the English Wikipedia - from another Wikipedia like, for example, the Simple Wikipedia? More specifically, the template <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:ScienceNews&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:ScienceNews (page does not exist)">{{ScienceNews}}</a> resides on the English Wikipedia - Question: Can this <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:ScienceNews&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:ScienceNews (page does not exist)">{{ScienceNews}}</a> template be accessed from the Simple Wikipedia (without recreating/duplicating the template on the Simple Wikipedia)? If so, what code may be used? - tia - Enjoy!  :) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Drbogdan" title="User talk:Drbogdan">talk</a>) 16:01, 28 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T16:01:00.000Z|Code_to_access_templates_between_Wikis?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-28T16:18:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T16:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-28T16:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Drbogdan&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T16:01:00.000Z|Code_to_access_templates_between_Wikis?"></span>
+<p><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T16:01:00.000Z|Code_to_access_templates_between_Wikis?"></span>QUESTION</b>: Is there some code that can access a template residing on the English Wikipedia - from another Wikipedia like, for example, the Simple Wikipedia? More specifically, the template <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:ScienceNews&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:ScienceNews (page does not exist)">{{ScienceNews}}</a> resides on the English Wikipedia - Question: Can this <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:ScienceNews&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:ScienceNews (page does not exist)">{{ScienceNews}}</a> template be accessed from the Simple Wikipedia (without recreating/duplicating the template on the Simple Wikipedia)? If so, what code may be used? - tia - Enjoy!  :) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Drbogdan" title="User talk:Drbogdan">talk</a>) 16:01, 28 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T16:01:00.000Z|Code_to_access_templates_between_Wikis?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-28T16:18:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T16:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-28T16:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Drbogdan&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T16:01:00.000Z|Code_to_access_templates_between_Wikis?"></span>
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-<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-28T16:18:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T16:01:00.000Z"></span>Drbogdan</a>, Interwiki templates are not currently supported on WMF wikis, mostly for performance and usability reasons. There's been some interest in developing the software to do this well for a long time (including in the 2015 Community Wishlist Survey where it was a top-10 wish), but nothing has developed out of it. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AntiCompositeNumber" title="User:AntiCompositeNumber">AntiCompositeNumber</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AntiCompositeNumber" title="User talk:AntiCompositeNumber">talk</a>) 16:18, 28 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-28T16:18:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T16:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T17:00:00.000Z|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-28T16:18:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-28T16:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;AntiCompositeNumber&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-28T16:18:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T16:01:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T17:00:00.000Z|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-28T16:18:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AntiCompositeNumber" title="User:AntiCompositeNumber">AntiCompositeNumber</a>:</span> Thank you *very much* for your comments - they're *greatly* appreciated - at least I'm now better informed about this - has my vote in developing this software if helpful - in any case - Thanks again - and - Enjoy! :) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Drbogdan" title="User talk:Drbogdan">talk</a>) 17:00, 28 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T17:00:00.000Z|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-28T16:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-28T17:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Drbogdan&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T17:00:00.000Z|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-28T16:18:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-28T16:18:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T16:01:00.000Z"></span>Drbogdan</a>, Interwiki templates are not currently supported on WMF wikis, mostly for performance and usability reasons. There's been some interest in developing the software to do this well for a long time (including in the 2015 Community Wishlist Survey where it was a top-10 wish), but nothing has developed out of it. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AntiCompositeNumber" title="User:AntiCompositeNumber">AntiCompositeNumber</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AntiCompositeNumber" title="User talk:AntiCompositeNumber">talk</a>) 16:18, 28 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-28T16:18:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T16:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T17:00:00.000Z|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-28T16:18:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-28T16:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;AntiCompositeNumber&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-28T16:18:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T16:01:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T17:00:00.000Z|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-28T16:18:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AntiCompositeNumber" title="User:AntiCompositeNumber">AntiCompositeNumber</a>:</span> Thank you *very much* for your comments - they're *greatly* appreciated - at least I'm now better informed about this - has my vote in developing this software if helpful - in any case - Thanks again - and - Enjoy! :) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Drbogdan" title="User talk:Drbogdan">talk</a>) 17:00, 28 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T17:00:00.000Z|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-28T16:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-28T17:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Drbogdan&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T17:00:00.000Z|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-28T16:18:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id="Unable_to_edit_my_watchlist.3F"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Unable_to_edit_my_watchlist?" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Unable_to_edit_my_watchlist?|2019-07-27T15:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T15:16:00.000Z|Unable_to_edit_my_watchlist?&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Unable_to_edit_my_watchlist?|2019-07-27T15:16:00.000Z"></span>Unable to edit my watchlist?<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Unable_to_edit_my_watchlist?|2019-07-27T15:16:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T15:16:00.000Z|Unable_to_edit_my_watchlist?"></span>Problem</b>: For some reason, I'm unable to edit my watchlist (via "View and edit watchlist" or "Edit raw watchlist" in <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EditWatchlist">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EditWatchlist</a> ) - even after restoring all default settings in my "Preferences" - and regardless of the browser used (latest versions of "Brave"; "Chrome"; "Firefox" used; Windows10/1903; Dell-XPS 8900) - seems earlier, all was *completely* ok with editing the watchlist - but now the listing in my watchlist (in edit mode) seems to appear very, very briefly - and then disappears? - any help with this would be appreciated - in any case - Enjoy! :) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Drbogdan" title="User talk:Drbogdan">talk</a>) 15:16, 27 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T15:16:00.000Z|Unable_to_edit_my_watchlist?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T15:37:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T15:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T17:21:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T15:16:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-27T15:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Drbogdan&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T15:16:00.000Z|Unable_to_edit_my_watchlist?"></span>
+<p><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T15:16:00.000Z|Unable_to_edit_my_watchlist?"></span>Problem</b>: For some reason, I'm unable to edit my watchlist (via "View and edit watchlist" or "Edit raw watchlist" in <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EditWatchlist">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EditWatchlist</a> ) - even after restoring all default settings in my "Preferences" - and regardless of the browser used (latest versions of "Brave"; "Chrome"; "Firefox" used; Windows10/1903; Dell-XPS 8900) - seems earlier, all was *completely* ok with editing the watchlist - but now the listing in my watchlist (in edit mode) seems to appear very, very briefly - and then disappears? - any help with this would be appreciated - in any case - Enjoy! :) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Drbogdan" title="User talk:Drbogdan">talk</a>) 15:16, 27 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T15:16:00.000Z|Unable_to_edit_my_watchlist?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T15:37:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T15:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T17:21:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T15:16:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-27T15:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Drbogdan&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T15:16:00.000Z|Unable_to_edit_my_watchlist?"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T15:37:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T15:16:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a>:</span> do you have a large (many thousand+) number of entries on your WL?  Can you see if you can edit it using <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EditWatchlist/raw?safemode=1">this safemode link</a>? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 15:37, 27 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T15:37:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T15:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T16:03:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T15:37:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-27T15:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T15:37:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T15:16:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T16:03:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T15:37:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux">Xaosflux</a>:</span> Thank you for your reply - and suggestions - seems I have => <b>"You have 8,108 pages on your watchlist (excluding talk pages)."</b> - is there a <b>maximum limit</b> for all to be ok? - also - the <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EditWatchlist/raw?safemode=1">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EditWatchlist/raw?safemode=1</a> - seems to work ok at the moment - anything I should/could do to be ok again in "normalmode" (not "safemode") - in any case - Thanks again for your reply - and - Enjoy! :) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Drbogdan" title="User talk:Drbogdan">talk</a>) 16:03, 27 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T16:03:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T15:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-07-27T16:09:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T16:03:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-27T16:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Drbogdan&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T16:03:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T15:37:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-27T16:09:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T16:03:00.000Z"></span>I've got 18,314 pages. I was over 25,000 a couple of weeks ago, and was able to edit it. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 16:09, 27 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-07-27T16:09:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T16:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T16:43:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-27T16:09:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-27T16:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-27T16:09:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T16:03:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T16:43:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-27T16:09:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a>:</span> while there isn't a limit (well there probably is some super giant limit but you're not at it) WL's tend to get wonky over 5000 entries, so I really suggest you trim it if possible.  Perhaps you have a bunch of old User:IPADDRESS ones from old feedback/warnings that you can remove. Also the safemode link disables scripts, such as the ones you have enabled in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan/common.js" title="User:Drbogdan/common.js">User:Drbogdan/common.js</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan/vector.js" title="User:Drbogdan/vector.js">User:Drbogdan/vector.js</a> - you could try turning these user scripts off to see if there are any conflicts being caused. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 16:43, 27 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T16:43:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-27T16:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-27T16:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T16:43:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-27T16:09:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T15:37:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T15:16:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a>:</span> do you have a large (many thousand+) number of entries on your WL?  Can you see if you can edit it using <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EditWatchlist/raw?safemode=1">this safemode link</a>? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 15:37, 27 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T15:37:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T15:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T16:03:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T15:37:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-27T15:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T15:37:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T15:16:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T16:03:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T15:37:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux">Xaosflux</a>:</span> Thank you for your reply - and suggestions - seems I have => <b>"You have 8,108 pages on your watchlist (excluding talk pages)."</b> - is there a <b>maximum limit</b> for all to be ok? - also - the <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EditWatchlist/raw?safemode=1">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EditWatchlist/raw?safemode=1</a> - seems to work ok at the moment - anything I should/could do to be ok again in "normalmode" (not "safemode") - in any case - Thanks again for your reply - and - Enjoy! :) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Drbogdan" title="User talk:Drbogdan">talk</a>) 16:03, 27 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T16:03:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T15:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-07-27T16:09:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T16:03:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-27T16:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Drbogdan&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T16:03:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T15:37:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-27T16:09:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T16:03:00.000Z"></span>I've got 18,314 pages. I was over 25,000 a couple of weeks ago, and was able to edit it. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 16:09, 27 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-07-27T16:09:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T16:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T16:43:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-27T16:09:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-27T16:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-27T16:09:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T16:03:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T16:43:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-27T16:09:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a>:</span> while there isn't a limit (well there probably is some super giant limit but you're not at it) WL's tend to get wonky over 5000 entries, so I really suggest you trim it if possible.  Perhaps you have a bunch of old User:IPADDRESS ones from old feedback/warnings that you can remove. Also the safemode link disables scripts, such as the ones you have enabled in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan/common.js" title="User:Drbogdan/common.js">User:Drbogdan/common.js</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan/vector.js" title="User:Drbogdan/vector.js">User:Drbogdan/vector.js</a> - you could try turning these user scripts off to see if there are any conflicts being caused. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 16:43, 27 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T16:43:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-27T16:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-27T16:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T16:43:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-27T16:09:00.000Z"></span>
 <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T17:21:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T15:16:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux">Xaosflux</a>:</span> Thanks for your reply - it's appreciated - yes - trimmed some entries in "safemode" - but this did <i>not</i> work - remmed script in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan/common.js" title="User:Drbogdan/common.js">User:Drbogdan/common.js</a> - as follows => <b><code>&lt;!---mw.loader.load('//meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Hedonil/XTools/XTools.js&amp;action=raw&amp;ctype=text/javascript');
 importScript('User:SD0001/oldSearchHistory.js');---></code></b> - not clear if this script is important for anything I'd miss at the moment - but yes - this worked *very well* and the WatchList edit seems to be *entirely* ok (in regular "normalmode") at the moment - Thanks again for your help with this - and - Enjoy! :) 17:17, 27 July 2019 (UTC)</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a>:</span> .js pages use a slightly different comment code (I edited YOUR page with the right comment type - feel free to revert or do anything you want with it now) You can try turning those lines on back one at a time if you want them, then contact whomever's script you are loading if you would like them to work on it. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 17:21, 27 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T17:21:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T15:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T17:27:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T17:21:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-27T17:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T17:21:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T15:16:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T17:27:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T17:21:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux">Xaosflux</a>:</span> Thanks for updating the js code with the right comment code(s) - it's appreciated - all now seems ok - Thanks again for all your help with this - and - Enjoy! :) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Drbogdan" title="User talk:Drbogdan">talk</a>) 17:27, 27 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T17:27:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T17:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T17:51:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T17:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-27T17:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Drbogdan&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T17:27:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T17:21:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T17:51:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T17:27:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux">Xaosflux</a>:</span> - BRIEF Followup - after several tests - seems the particular <i>problem</i> script line in the "<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan/common.js" title="User:Drbogdan/common.js">User:Drbogdan/common.js</a>" file is => <b><code>/*importScript('User:SD0001/oldSearchHistory.js');*/</code></b> - the other script line seems ok - and somewhat useful at the moment - hope this helps in some way - in any regards - Thanks again - and - Enjoy! :) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Drbogdan" title="User talk:Drbogdan">talk</a>) 17:51, 27 July 2019 (UTC) [<b>NOTE</b>: corrected code - <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Drbogdan" title="User talk:Drbogdan">talk</a>) 21:12, 27 July 2019 (UTC)]<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T17:51:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T17:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T18:00:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T17:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|SD0001|2019-07-28T16:27:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T17:51:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-27T17:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Drbogdan&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T17:51:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T17:27:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T18:00:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T17:51:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SD0001" title="User:SD0001">SD0001</a>:</span> - want to take a look? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 18:00, 27 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T18:00:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T17:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T18:13:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T18:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-27T18:38:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T18:00:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-27T18:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T18:00:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T17:51:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T18:13:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T18:00:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux">Xaosflux</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SD0001" title="User:SD0001">SD0001</a>:</span> FWIW - rm related CSS line from the "<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan/common.css" title="User:Drbogdan/common.css">User:Drbogdan/common.css</a>" file as well - <b><code>/*@import url("//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:SD0001/oldSearchHistory.css&amp;action=raw&amp;ctype=text/css");*/</code></b> - see => "<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_173#Hideous_history_page" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 173">Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_173#Hideous_history_page</a>" section for more if interested - Enjoy! :) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Drbogdan" title="User talk:Drbogdan">talk</a>) 18:13, 27 July 2019 (UTC) [<b>NOTE</b>: corrected code - <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Drbogdan" title="User talk:Drbogdan">talk</a>) 21:12, 27 July 2019 (UTC)]<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T18:13:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T18:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-27T18:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Drbogdan&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T18:13:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T18:00:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a>:</span> .js pages use a slightly different comment code (I edited YOUR page with the right comment type - feel free to revert or do anything you want with it now) You can try turning those lines on back one at a time if you want them, then contact whomever's script you are loading if you would like them to work on it. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 17:21, 27 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T17:21:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T15:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T17:27:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T17:21:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-27T17:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T17:21:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T15:16:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T17:27:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T17:21:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux">Xaosflux</a>:</span> Thanks for updating the js code with the right comment code(s) - it's appreciated - all now seems ok - Thanks again for all your help with this - and - Enjoy! :) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Drbogdan" title="User talk:Drbogdan">talk</a>) 17:27, 27 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T17:27:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T17:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T17:51:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T17:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-27T17:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Drbogdan&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T17:27:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T17:21:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T17:51:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T17:27:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux">Xaosflux</a>:</span> - BRIEF Followup - after several tests - seems the particular <i>problem</i> script line in the "<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan/common.js" title="User:Drbogdan/common.js">User:Drbogdan/common.js</a>" file is => <b><code>/*importScript('User:SD0001/oldSearchHistory.js');*/</code></b> - the other script line seems ok - and somewhat useful at the moment - hope this helps in some way - in any regards - Thanks again - and - Enjoy! :) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Drbogdan" title="User talk:Drbogdan">talk</a>) 17:51, 27 July 2019 (UTC) [<b>NOTE</b>: corrected code - <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Drbogdan" title="User talk:Drbogdan">talk</a>) 21:12, 27 July 2019 (UTC)]<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T17:51:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T17:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T18:00:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T17:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|SD0001|2019-07-28T16:27:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T17:51:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-27T17:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Drbogdan&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T17:51:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T17:27:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T18:00:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T17:51:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SD0001" title="User:SD0001">SD0001</a>:</span> - want to take a look? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 18:00, 27 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T18:00:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T17:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T18:13:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T18:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-27T18:38:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T18:00:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-27T18:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T18:00:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T17:51:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T18:13:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T18:00:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux">Xaosflux</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SD0001" title="User:SD0001">SD0001</a>:</span> FWIW - rm related CSS line from the "<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan/common.css" title="User:Drbogdan/common.css">User:Drbogdan/common.css</a>" file as well - <b><code>/*@import url("//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:SD0001/oldSearchHistory.css&amp;action=raw&amp;ctype=text/css");*/</code></b> - see => "<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_173#Hideous_history_page" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 173">Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_173#Hideous_history_page</a>" section for more if interested - Enjoy! :) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Drbogdan" title="User talk:Drbogdan">talk</a>) 18:13, 27 July 2019 (UTC) [<b>NOTE</b>: corrected code - <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Drbogdan" title="User talk:Drbogdan">talk</a>) 21:12, 27 July 2019 (UTC)]<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T18:13:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T18:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-27T18:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Drbogdan&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T18:13:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T18:00:00.000Z"></span></dd>
 <dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-07-27T18:38:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T18:00:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux">Xaosflux</a>:</span> In <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Drbogdan/common.js&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=908130759">this edit</a></span> you used the wrong format, it's either <div class="mw-highlight mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"><pre><span></span><span class="cm">/* ... */</span>
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-</pre></div> the latter extending to the end of the line. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 18:38, 27 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-27T18:38:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T18:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T20:01:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-27T18:38:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-27T18:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-07-27T18:38:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T18:00:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T20:01:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-27T18:38:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64">Redrose64</a>:</span> thanks, fixed though syntactically it worked (would interpret the same since it was on each line) :D — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 20:01, 27 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T20:01:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-27T18:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-27T20:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T20:01:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-27T18:38:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SD0001|2019-07-28T16:27:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T17:51:00.000Z"></span>Drbogdan</a>, problem script fixed. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SD0001" title="User:SD0001">SD0001</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SD0001" title="User talk:SD0001">talk</a>) 16:27, 28 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SD0001|2019-07-28T16:27:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T17:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T17:07:00.000Z|SD0001|2019-07-28T16:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T17:53:00.000Z|SD0001|2019-07-28T16:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-28T16:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SD0001&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SD0001|2019-07-28T16:27:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T17:51:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T17:07:00.000Z|SD0001|2019-07-28T16:27:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SD0001" title="User:SD0001">SD0001</a>:</span> Thank you *very much* for your comment - and help with this - may try the fixed script at my next opportunity - iac - Thanks again - and - Enjoy! :) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Drbogdan" title="User talk:Drbogdan">talk</a>) 17:07, 28 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T17:07:00.000Z|SD0001|2019-07-28T16:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-28T17:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Drbogdan&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T17:07:00.000Z|SD0001|2019-07-28T16:27:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T17:53:00.000Z|SD0001|2019-07-28T16:27:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SD0001" title="User:SD0001">SD0001</a>:</span> Checked the new fixed script - and the "WatchList Edit" now seems to work *very well* - Thank you for your help and efforts with this - they're *greatly* appreciated - Enjoy! :) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Drbogdan" title="User talk:Drbogdan">talk</a>) 17:53, 28 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T17:53:00.000Z|SD0001|2019-07-28T16:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-28T17:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Drbogdan&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T17:53:00.000Z|SD0001|2019-07-28T16:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+</pre></div> the latter extending to the end of the line. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 18:38, 27 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-27T18:38:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T18:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T20:01:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-27T18:38:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-27T18:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-07-27T18:38:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T18:00:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T20:01:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-27T18:38:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64">Redrose64</a>:</span> thanks, fixed though syntactically it worked (would interpret the same since it was on each line) :D — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 20:01, 27 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T20:01:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-27T18:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-27T20:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T20:01:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-27T18:38:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SD0001|2019-07-28T16:27:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T17:51:00.000Z"></span>Drbogdan</a>, problem script fixed. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SD0001" title="User:SD0001">SD0001</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SD0001" title="User talk:SD0001">talk</a>) 16:27, 28 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SD0001|2019-07-28T16:27:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T17:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T17:07:00.000Z|SD0001|2019-07-28T16:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T17:53:00.000Z|SD0001|2019-07-28T16:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-28T16:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SD0001&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SD0001|2019-07-28T16:27:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-07-27T17:51:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T17:07:00.000Z|SD0001|2019-07-28T16:27:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SD0001" title="User:SD0001">SD0001</a>:</span> Thank you *very much* for your comment - and help with this - may try the fixed script at my next opportunity - iac - Thanks again - and - Enjoy! :) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Drbogdan" title="User talk:Drbogdan">talk</a>) 17:07, 28 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T17:07:00.000Z|SD0001|2019-07-28T16:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-28T17:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Drbogdan&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T17:07:00.000Z|SD0001|2019-07-28T16:27:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T17:53:00.000Z|SD0001|2019-07-28T16:27:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SD0001" title="User:SD0001">SD0001</a>:</span> Checked the new fixed script - and the "WatchList Edit" now seems to work *very well* - Thank you for your help and efforts with this - they're *greatly* appreciated - Enjoy! :) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Drbogdan" title="User talk:Drbogdan">talk</a>) 17:53, 28 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T17:53:00.000Z|SD0001|2019-07-28T16:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-28T17:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Drbogdan&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Drbogdan|2019-07-28T17:53:00.000Z|SD0001|2019-07-28T16:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Popups_-_little_white_box_above_the_link" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Popups_-_little_white_box_above_the_link|2019-07-28T23:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-07-28T23:01:00.000Z|Popups_-_little_white_box_above_the_link&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Popups_-_little_white_box_above_the_link|2019-07-28T23:01:00.000Z"></span>Popups - little white box above the link<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Popups_-_little_white_box_above_the_link|2019-07-28T23:01:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-28T23:01:00.000Z|Popups_-_little_white_box_above_the_link"></span>When I point my cursor at a link, as well as the usual popup preview thingy, I also get a little white box appearing above the link. I think it started in the last hour or so. Is this a new feature? It doesn't appear to do anything useful, or indeed at all. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 23:01, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
-Sorry should have said, monobook, Edge, Win10. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 23:01, 28 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-07-28T23:01:00.000Z|Popups_-_little_white_box_above_the_link&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-28T23:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-28T23:01:00.000Z|Popups_-_little_white_box_above_the_link"></span>
+Sorry should have said, monobook, Edge, Win10. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 23:01, 28 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-07-28T23:01:00.000Z|Popups_-_little_white_box_above_the_link&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-28T23:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-28T23:01:00.000Z|Popups_-_little_white_box_above_the_link"></span>
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@@ -1544,25 +1544,25 @@ Sorry should have said, monobook, Edge, Win10. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
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-<p>I could not find it in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pagename_manipulation_templates" title="Category:Pagename manipulation templates">Category:Pagename manipulation templates</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Namespace_manipulation_templates" title="Category:Namespace manipulation templates">Category:Namespace manipulation templates</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Subpage_other" title="Template:Subpage other">Template:Subpage other</a> could be used, but only for root page templates — it won't work for userspace userboxes. And it will still require writing out the branches of the if. Is there such a template? —⁠<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Andrybak" title="User:Andrybak">andrybak</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Andrybak" title="User talk:Andrybak">talk</a>) 00:58, 29 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Andrybak|2019-07-29T00:58:00.000Z|Template's_FULLPAGENAME_in_documentation&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-29T01:11:00.000Z|Andrybak|2019-07-29T00:58:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-29T00:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Andrybak&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Andrybak|2019-07-29T00:58:00.000Z|Template's_FULLPAGENAME_in_documentation"></span>
+<p>I could not find it in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pagename_manipulation_templates" title="Category:Pagename manipulation templates">Category:Pagename manipulation templates</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Namespace_manipulation_templates" title="Category:Namespace manipulation templates">Category:Namespace manipulation templates</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Subpage_other" title="Template:Subpage other">Template:Subpage other</a> could be used, but only for root page templates — it won't work for userspace userboxes. And it will still require writing out the branches of the if. Is there such a template? —⁠<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Andrybak" title="User:Andrybak">andrybak</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Andrybak" title="User talk:Andrybak">talk</a>) 00:58, 29 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Andrybak|2019-07-29T00:58:00.000Z|Template's_FULLPAGENAME_in_documentation&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-29T01:11:00.000Z|Andrybak|2019-07-29T00:58:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-29T00:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Andrybak&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Andrybak|2019-07-29T00:58:00.000Z|Template's_FULLPAGENAME_in_documentation"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-29T01:11:00.000Z|Andrybak|2019-07-29T00:58:00.000Z"></span>Maybe you can use {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:TEMPLATENAME" title="Template:TEMPLATENAME">TEMPLATENAME</a>}}. It also removes other things. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 01:11, 29 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-29T01:11:00.000Z|Andrybak|2019-07-29T00:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Andrybak|2019-07-29T01:51:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-29T01:11:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-29T01:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-29T01:11:00.000Z|Andrybak|2019-07-29T00:58:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Andrybak|2019-07-29T01:51:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-29T01:11:00.000Z"></span>Thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for. Added the template to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pagename_manipulation_templates" title="Category:Pagename manipulation templates">Category:Pagename manipulation templates</a>. —⁠<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Andrybak" title="User:Andrybak">andrybak</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Andrybak" title="User talk:Andrybak">talk</a>) 01:51, 29 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Andrybak|2019-07-29T01:51:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-29T01:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-29T08:13:00.000Z|Andrybak|2019-07-29T01:51:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-29T01:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Andrybak&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Andrybak|2019-07-29T01:51:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-29T01:11:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-07-29T08:13:00.000Z|Andrybak|2019-07-29T01:51:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Andrybak" title="User:Andrybak">Andrybak</a>:</span> You may have been looking in the wrong place, since these are not templates - they are <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VAR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:VAR">variables</a>. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 08:13, 29 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-29T08:13:00.000Z|Andrybak|2019-07-29T01:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-29T09:07:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-29T08:13:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-29T08:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-07-29T08:13:00.000Z|Andrybak|2019-07-29T01:51:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-29T09:07:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-29T08:13:00.000Z"></span>{{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:TEMPLATENAME" title="Template:TEMPLATENAME">TEMPLATENAME</a>}} is a template. Its name is just chosen with all uppercase like magic word variables. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 09:07, 29 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-29T09:07:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-29T08:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-29T09:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-29T09:07:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-29T08:13:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-29T01:11:00.000Z|Andrybak|2019-07-29T00:58:00.000Z"></span>Maybe you can use {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:TEMPLATENAME" title="Template:TEMPLATENAME">TEMPLATENAME</a>}}. It also removes other things. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 01:11, 29 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-29T01:11:00.000Z|Andrybak|2019-07-29T00:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Andrybak|2019-07-29T01:51:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-29T01:11:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-29T01:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-29T01:11:00.000Z|Andrybak|2019-07-29T00:58:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Andrybak|2019-07-29T01:51:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-29T01:11:00.000Z"></span>Thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for. Added the template to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pagename_manipulation_templates" title="Category:Pagename manipulation templates">Category:Pagename manipulation templates</a>. —⁠<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Andrybak" title="User:Andrybak">andrybak</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Andrybak" title="User talk:Andrybak">talk</a>) 01:51, 29 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Andrybak|2019-07-29T01:51:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-29T01:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-29T08:13:00.000Z|Andrybak|2019-07-29T01:51:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-29T01:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Andrybak&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Andrybak|2019-07-29T01:51:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-29T01:11:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-07-29T08:13:00.000Z|Andrybak|2019-07-29T01:51:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Andrybak" title="User:Andrybak">Andrybak</a>:</span> You may have been looking in the wrong place, since these are not templates - they are <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VAR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:VAR">variables</a>. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 08:13, 29 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-29T08:13:00.000Z|Andrybak|2019-07-29T01:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-29T09:07:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-29T08:13:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-29T08:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-07-29T08:13:00.000Z|Andrybak|2019-07-29T01:51:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-29T09:07:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-29T08:13:00.000Z"></span>{{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:TEMPLATENAME" title="Template:TEMPLATENAME">TEMPLATENAME</a>}} is a template. Its name is just chosen with all uppercase like magic word variables. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 09:07, 29 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-29T09:07:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-29T08:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-29T09:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-29T09:07:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-29T08:13:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Biography_-_authority_control" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Biography_-_authority_control|2019-07-29T03:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|2607:FEA8:1DE0:7B4:F81D:4C1A:755A:7B9F|2019-07-29T03:20:00.000Z|Biography_-_authority_control&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Biography_-_authority_control|2019-07-29T03:20:00.000Z"></span>Biography - authority control<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Biography_-_authority_control|2019-07-29T03:20:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|2607:FEA8:1DE0:7B4:F81D:4C1A:755A:7B9F|2019-07-29T03:20:00.000Z|Biography_-_authority_control"></span>On the biography for <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Ric%C5%93ur" title="Paul Ricœur">Paul Ricœur</a>, the authority control box has the following text in red font: <big>The RERO id 02-A000137666 is not valid</big>. Can someone fix it? Thanks! <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/2607:FEA8:1DE0:7B4:F81D:4C1A:755A:7B9F" title="Special:Contributions/2607:FEA8:1DE0:7B4:F81D:4C1A:755A:7B9F">2607:FEA8:1DE0:7B4:F81D:4C1A:755A:7B9F</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2607:FEA8:1DE0:7B4:F81D:4C1A:755A:7B9F&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2607:FEA8:1DE0:7B4:F81D:4C1A:755A:7B9F (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 03:20, 29 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|2607:FEA8:1DE0:7B4:F81D:4C1A:755A:7B9F|2019-07-29T03:20:00.000Z|Biography_-_authority_control&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-07-29T07:25:00.000Z|2607:FEA8:1DE0:7B4:F81D:4C1A:755A:7B9F|2019-07-29T03:20:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-29T03:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;2607:FEA8:1DE0:7B4:F81D:4C1A:755A:7B9F&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|2607:FEA8:1DE0:7B4:F81D:4C1A:755A:7B9F|2019-07-29T03:20:00.000Z|Biography_-_authority_control"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|2607:FEA8:1DE0:7B4:F81D:4C1A:755A:7B9F|2019-07-29T03:20:00.000Z|Biography_-_authority_control"></span>On the biography for <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Ric%C5%93ur" title="Paul Ricœur">Paul Ricœur</a>, the authority control box has the following text in red font: <big>The RERO id 02-A000137666 is not valid</big>. Can someone fix it? Thanks! <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/2607:FEA8:1DE0:7B4:F81D:4C1A:755A:7B9F" title="Special:Contributions/2607:FEA8:1DE0:7B4:F81D:4C1A:755A:7B9F">2607:FEA8:1DE0:7B4:F81D:4C1A:755A:7B9F</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2607:FEA8:1DE0:7B4:F81D:4C1A:755A:7B9F&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2607:FEA8:1DE0:7B4:F81D:4C1A:755A:7B9F (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 03:20, 29 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|2607:FEA8:1DE0:7B4:F81D:4C1A:755A:7B9F|2019-07-29T03:20:00.000Z|Biography_-_authority_control&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-07-29T07:25:00.000Z|2607:FEA8:1DE0:7B4:F81D:4C1A:755A:7B9F|2019-07-29T03:20:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-29T03:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;2607:FEA8:1DE0:7B4:F81D:4C1A:755A:7B9F&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|2607:FEA8:1DE0:7B4:F81D:4C1A:755A:7B9F|2019-07-29T03:20:00.000Z|Biography_-_authority_control"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ammarpad|2019-07-29T07:25:00.000Z|2607:FEA8:1DE0:7B4:F81D:4C1A:755A:7B9F|2019-07-29T03:20:00.000Z"></span>The ID itself <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://data.rero.ch/02-A000137666">is valid</a> but actually all RERO IDs were <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_articles_with_faulty_RERO_identifiers" title="Category:Wikipedia articles with faulty RERO identifiers">categorized as invalid</a> and I could not find what's causing this in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:Authority_control" title="Module:Authority control">Module:Authority control</a>. Pinging <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tom.Reding" title="User:Tom.Reding">Tom.Reding</a> who <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Module:Authority_control&amp;diff=908337725&amp;oldid=902387185">added them today</a>. – <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ammarpad" title="User:Ammarpad">Ammarpad</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ammarpad" title="User talk:Ammarpad">talk</a>) 07:25, 29 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-07-29T07:25:00.000Z|2607:FEA8:1DE0:7B4:F81D:4C1A:755A:7B9F|2019-07-29T03:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Tom.Reding|2019-07-29T10:51:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-07-29T07:25:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-29T07:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ammarpad&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ammarpad|2019-07-29T07:25:00.000Z|2607:FEA8:1DE0:7B4:F81D:4C1A:755A:7B9F|2019-07-29T03:20:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Tom.Reding|2019-07-29T10:51:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-07-29T07:25:00.000Z"></span>@IP &amp; <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ammarpad" title="User:Ammarpad">Ammarpad</a>:</span> <img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/27px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/36px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> <b>fixed</b>.   <b>~</b> <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:16px;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tom.Reding" title="User:Tom.Reding">Tom.Reding</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tom.Reding" title="User talk:Tom.Reding">talk</a> ⋅<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:DGAF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DGAF">dgaf</a>)</span>  10:51, 29 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Tom.Reding|2019-07-29T10:51:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-07-29T07:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-29T10:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Tom.Reding&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Tom.Reding|2019-07-29T10:51:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-07-29T07:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ammarpad|2019-07-29T07:25:00.000Z|2607:FEA8:1DE0:7B4:F81D:4C1A:755A:7B9F|2019-07-29T03:20:00.000Z"></span>The ID itself <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://data.rero.ch/02-A000137666">is valid</a> but actually all RERO IDs were <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_articles_with_faulty_RERO_identifiers" title="Category:Wikipedia articles with faulty RERO identifiers">categorized as invalid</a> and I could not find what's causing this in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:Authority_control" title="Module:Authority control">Module:Authority control</a>. Pinging <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tom.Reding" title="User:Tom.Reding">Tom.Reding</a> who <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Module:Authority_control&amp;diff=908337725&amp;oldid=902387185">added them today</a>. – <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ammarpad" title="User:Ammarpad">Ammarpad</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ammarpad" title="User talk:Ammarpad">talk</a>) 07:25, 29 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-07-29T07:25:00.000Z|2607:FEA8:1DE0:7B4:F81D:4C1A:755A:7B9F|2019-07-29T03:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Tom.Reding|2019-07-29T10:51:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-07-29T07:25:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-29T07:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ammarpad&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ammarpad|2019-07-29T07:25:00.000Z|2607:FEA8:1DE0:7B4:F81D:4C1A:755A:7B9F|2019-07-29T03:20:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Tom.Reding|2019-07-29T10:51:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-07-29T07:25:00.000Z"></span>@IP &amp; <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ammarpad" title="User:Ammarpad">Ammarpad</a>:</span> <img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/27px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/36px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> <b>fixed</b>.   <b>~</b> <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:16px;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tom.Reding" title="User:Tom.Reding">Tom.Reding</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tom.Reding" title="User talk:Tom.Reding">talk</a> ⋅<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:DGAF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DGAF">dgaf</a>)</span>  10:51, 29 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Tom.Reding|2019-07-29T10:51:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-07-29T07:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-29T10:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Tom.Reding&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Tom.Reding|2019-07-29T10:51:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-07-29T07:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id="Google_Maps_can.27t_find_some_decimal_coordinates"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Google_Maps_can't_find_some_decimal_coordinates" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Google_Maps_can't_find_some_decimal_coordinates|2019-07-27T20:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Mandruss|2019-07-27T20:00:00.000Z|Google_Maps_can't_find_some_decimal_coordinates&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Google_Maps_can't_find_some_decimal_coordinates|2019-07-27T20:00:00.000Z"></span>Google Maps can't find some decimal coordinates<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Google_Maps_can't_find_some_decimal_coordinates|2019-07-27T20:00:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Mandruss|2019-07-27T20:00:00.000Z|Google_Maps_can't_find_some_decimal_coordinates"></span>Not a Wikipedia problem, as it occurs even when Wikipedia is not involved, but affects a lot of articles so it's worth raising here. Maybe somebody knows something about this, and in any case editors need awareness of the problem.
-</p><p>Google Maps says it "can't find" some, but not all, geo coordinates in decimal format. Example <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.google.com/maps/search/53.111,-2.245/@53.4000305,-2.3850783,11z?hl=en">53.111,-2.245</a>, a location near Manchester UK. ―<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mandruss" title="User:Mandruss"><span style="color:#775C57;"><i><b>Mandruss</b></i></span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mandruss" title="User talk:Mandruss"><span style="color:#888;">☎</span></a> 20:00, 27 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mandruss|2019-07-27T20:00:00.000Z|Google_Maps_can't_find_some_decimal_coordinates&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T20:07:00.000Z|Mandruss|2019-07-27T20:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Mandruss|2019-07-29T12:20:00.000Z|Mandruss|2019-07-27T20:00:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-27T20:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mandruss&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Mandruss|2019-07-27T20:00:00.000Z|Google_Maps_can't_find_some_decimal_coordinates"></span>
+</p><p>Google Maps says it "can't find" some, but not all, geo coordinates in decimal format. Example <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.google.com/maps/search/53.111,-2.245/@53.4000305,-2.3850783,11z?hl=en">53.111,-2.245</a>, a location near Manchester UK. ―<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mandruss" title="User:Mandruss"><span style="color:#775C57;"><i><b>Mandruss</b></i></span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mandruss" title="User talk:Mandruss"><span style="color:#888;">☎</span></a> 20:00, 27 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mandruss|2019-07-27T20:00:00.000Z|Google_Maps_can't_find_some_decimal_coordinates&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T20:07:00.000Z|Mandruss|2019-07-27T20:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Mandruss|2019-07-29T12:20:00.000Z|Mandruss|2019-07-27T20:00:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-27T20:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mandruss&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Mandruss|2019-07-27T20:00:00.000Z|Google_Maps_can't_find_some_decimal_coordinates"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T20:07:00.000Z|Mandruss|2019-07-27T20:00:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mandruss" title="User:Mandruss">Mandruss</a>:</span> Hmm, while "53.111, -2.245" isn't working, "53.11100, -2.24500" is. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 20:07, 27 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T20:07:00.000Z|Mandruss|2019-07-27T20:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Mandruss|2019-07-27T20:10:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T20:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Killiondude|2019-07-27T20:11:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T20:07:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-27T20:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T20:07:00.000Z|Mandruss|2019-07-27T20:00:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Mandruss|2019-07-27T20:10:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T20:07:00.000Z"></span>Hmm, indeed. ―<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mandruss" title="User:Mandruss"><span style="color:#775C57;"><i><b>Mandruss</b></i></span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mandruss" title="User talk:Mandruss"><span style="color:#888;">☎</span></a> 20:10, 27 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mandruss|2019-07-27T20:10:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T20:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-27T20:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mandruss&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Mandruss|2019-07-27T20:10:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T20:07:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Killiondude|2019-07-27T20:11:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T20:07:00.000Z"></span>That's interesting. I also played around with the precision and 53.11100, -2.24500 doesn't work for me. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Killiondude" title="User:Killiondude">Killiondude</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Killiondude" title="User talk:Killiondude">talk</a>) 20:11, 27 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Killiondude|2019-07-27T20:11:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T20:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-27T20:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Killiondude&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Killiondude|2019-07-27T20:11:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T20:07:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Mandruss|2019-07-29T12:20:00.000Z|Mandruss|2019-07-27T20:00:00.000Z"></span>For an example of an actual affected article, see <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Isla_Vista_killings" title="2014 Isla Vista killings">2014 Isla Vista killings</a>. Google Maps takes you to Isla Vista but displays the error and fails to place a marker. Appending one zero to the end of either lat or long fixes it.<div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div>At <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://support.google.com/maps/answer/3094088?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop&amp;hl=en">this link</a> is a place to report errors in Google Maps, but it requires a Google sign in. I don't have a Google account and I don't care to create one for this purpose. Perhaps someone else could report this error and return any feedback here.<div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div>If we can't get this error fixed soon, we should start thinking about a change to the software we control to work around it. Accepting this for the indefinite term is out of the question in my opinion. ―<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mandruss" title="User:Mandruss"><span style="color:#775C57;"><i><b>Mandruss</b></i></span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mandruss" title="User talk:Mandruss"><span style="color:#888;">☎</span></a> 12:20, 29 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mandruss|2019-07-29T12:20:00.000Z|Mandruss|2019-07-27T20:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-29T12:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mandruss&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Mandruss|2019-07-29T12:20:00.000Z|Mandruss|2019-07-27T20:00:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T20:07:00.000Z|Mandruss|2019-07-27T20:00:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mandruss" title="User:Mandruss">Mandruss</a>:</span> Hmm, while "53.111, -2.245" isn't working, "53.11100, -2.24500" is. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 20:07, 27 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T20:07:00.000Z|Mandruss|2019-07-27T20:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Mandruss|2019-07-27T20:10:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T20:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Killiondude|2019-07-27T20:11:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T20:07:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-27T20:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T20:07:00.000Z|Mandruss|2019-07-27T20:00:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Mandruss|2019-07-27T20:10:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T20:07:00.000Z"></span>Hmm, indeed. ―<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mandruss" title="User:Mandruss"><span style="color:#775C57;"><i><b>Mandruss</b></i></span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mandruss" title="User talk:Mandruss"><span style="color:#888;">☎</span></a> 20:10, 27 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mandruss|2019-07-27T20:10:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T20:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-27T20:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mandruss&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Mandruss|2019-07-27T20:10:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T20:07:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Killiondude|2019-07-27T20:11:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T20:07:00.000Z"></span>That's interesting. I also played around with the precision and 53.11100, -2.24500 doesn't work for me. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Killiondude" title="User:Killiondude">Killiondude</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Killiondude" title="User talk:Killiondude">talk</a>) 20:11, 27 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Killiondude|2019-07-27T20:11:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T20:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-27T20:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Killiondude&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Killiondude|2019-07-27T20:11:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T20:07:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Mandruss|2019-07-29T12:20:00.000Z|Mandruss|2019-07-27T20:00:00.000Z"></span>For an example of an actual affected article, see <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Isla_Vista_killings" title="2014 Isla Vista killings">2014 Isla Vista killings</a>. Google Maps takes you to Isla Vista but displays the error and fails to place a marker. Appending one zero to the end of either lat or long fixes it.<div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div>At <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://support.google.com/maps/answer/3094088?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop&amp;hl=en">this link</a> is a place to report errors in Google Maps, but it requires a Google sign in. I don't have a Google account and I don't care to create one for this purpose. Perhaps someone else could report this error and return any feedback here.<div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div>If we can't get this error fixed soon, we should start thinking about a change to the software we control to work around it. Accepting this for the indefinite term is out of the question in my opinion. ―<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mandruss" title="User:Mandruss"><span style="color:#775C57;"><i><b>Mandruss</b></i></span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mandruss" title="User talk:Mandruss"><span style="color:#888;">☎</span></a> 12:20, 29 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mandruss|2019-07-29T12:20:00.000Z|Mandruss|2019-07-27T20:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-29T12:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mandruss&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Mandruss|2019-07-29T12:20:00.000Z|Mandruss|2019-07-27T20:00:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
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 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Andrybak|2019-07-29T10:29:00.000Z|{{collapsible_option}}_works_incorrectly"></span>I used this template correctly, but it doesn't work. Look at my signature, it contains afromentioned template. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Monniasza" title="User:Monniasza">Monniasza</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Monniasza" title="User talk:Monniasza">talk</a> 
 <b><span style="font-size: 120%;">Initial visibility:</span></b> currently defaults to <b><span style="font-size: 120%;">autocollapse</span></b>
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 <p>If the <code class="nowrap">|state=</code> parameter in the template on this page is not set, the template's initial visibility is taken from the <code class="nowrap">|default=</code> parameter in the <i>Collapsible option</i> template. For the template on this page, that currently evaluates to <span style="font-size: 120%;"><b><code>autocollapse</code></b></span>.  10:25, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Monniasza" title="User:Monniasza">Monniasza</a>:</span> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SIG#NoTemplates" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SIG">usage of templates in signatures is forbidden</a>. —⁠<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Andrybak" title="User:Andrybak">andrybak</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Andrybak" title="User talk:Andrybak">talk</a>) 10:29, 29 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Andrybak|2019-07-29T10:29:00.000Z|{{collapsible_option}}_works_incorrectly&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Monniasza|2019-07-29T10:37:00.000Z|Andrybak|2019-07-29T10:29:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-29T10:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Andrybak&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Andrybak|2019-07-29T10:29:00.000Z|{{collapsible_option}}_works_incorrectly"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Monniasza|2019-07-29T10:37:00.000Z|Andrybak|2019-07-29T10:29:00.000Z"></span>Template still works incorrectly .<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Monniasza" title="User:Monniasza">Monniasza</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Monniasza" title="User talk:Monniasza">talk</a>  10:37, 29 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Monniasza|2019-07-29T10:37:00.000Z|Andrybak|2019-07-29T10:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|John of Reading|2019-07-29T10:43:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-07-29T10:37:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-29T10:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Monniasza&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Monniasza|2019-07-29T10:37:00.000Z|Andrybak|2019-07-29T10:29:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|John of Reading|2019-07-29T10:43:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-07-29T10:37:00.000Z"></span>{{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Collapsible_option" title="Template:Collapsible option">Collapsible option</a>}} is designed to be used on template documentation pages. It outputs text that <i>describes</i> how the <code class="mw-highlight" id="" style="" dir="ltr">state</code> parameter works in those other templates. It doesn't do any collapsing itself. And, as Andrybak said, you may not use any template in your signature. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:John_of_Reading" title="User:John of Reading">John of Reading</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading" title="User talk:John of Reading">talk</a>) 10:43, 29 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|John of Reading|2019-07-29T10:43:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-07-29T10:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-29T13:10:00.000Z|John of Reading|2019-07-29T10:43:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-29T10:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;John of Reading&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|John of Reading|2019-07-29T10:43:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-07-29T10:37:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-29T13:10:00.000Z|John of Reading|2019-07-29T10:43:00.000Z"></span>Yes, this is like wrapping your beer in a refrigerator manual and complaining it doesn't get cold. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 13:10, 29 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-29T13:10:00.000Z|John of Reading|2019-07-29T10:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-29T13:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-29T13:10:00.000Z|John of Reading|2019-07-29T10:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Monniasza" title="User:Monniasza">Monniasza</a>:</span> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SIG#NoTemplates" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SIG">usage of templates in signatures is forbidden</a>. —⁠<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Andrybak" title="User:Andrybak">andrybak</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Andrybak" title="User talk:Andrybak">talk</a>) 10:29, 29 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Andrybak|2019-07-29T10:29:00.000Z|{{collapsible_option}}_works_incorrectly&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Monniasza|2019-07-29T10:37:00.000Z|Andrybak|2019-07-29T10:29:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-29T10:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Andrybak&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Andrybak|2019-07-29T10:29:00.000Z|{{collapsible_option}}_works_incorrectly"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Monniasza|2019-07-29T10:37:00.000Z|Andrybak|2019-07-29T10:29:00.000Z"></span>Template still works incorrectly .<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Monniasza" title="User:Monniasza">Monniasza</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Monniasza" title="User talk:Monniasza">talk</a>  10:37, 29 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Monniasza|2019-07-29T10:37:00.000Z|Andrybak|2019-07-29T10:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|John of Reading|2019-07-29T10:43:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-07-29T10:37:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-29T10:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Monniasza&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Monniasza|2019-07-29T10:37:00.000Z|Andrybak|2019-07-29T10:29:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|John of Reading|2019-07-29T10:43:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-07-29T10:37:00.000Z"></span>{{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Collapsible_option" title="Template:Collapsible option">Collapsible option</a>}} is designed to be used on template documentation pages. It outputs text that <i>describes</i> how the <code class="mw-highlight" id="" style="" dir="ltr">state</code> parameter works in those other templates. It doesn't do any collapsing itself. And, as Andrybak said, you may not use any template in your signature. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:John_of_Reading" title="User:John of Reading">John of Reading</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading" title="User talk:John of Reading">talk</a>) 10:43, 29 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|John of Reading|2019-07-29T10:43:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-07-29T10:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-29T13:10:00.000Z|John of Reading|2019-07-29T10:43:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-29T10:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;John of Reading&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|John of Reading|2019-07-29T10:43:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-07-29T10:37:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-29T13:10:00.000Z|John of Reading|2019-07-29T10:43:00.000Z"></span>Yes, this is like wrapping your beer in a refrigerator manual and complaining it doesn't get cold. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 13:10, 29 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-29T13:10:00.000Z|John of Reading|2019-07-29T10:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-29T13:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-29T13:10:00.000Z|John of Reading|2019-07-29T10:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Renata3|2019-07-30T02:33:00.000Z|Colors_of_class=wikitable?"></span>Quick question, but I can't find the answer. What are the color codes for the default wikitable? For the grey background and the darker grey header? Thanks, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Renata3" title="User:Renata3">Renata</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Renata3" title="User talk:Renata3">talk</a>) 02:33, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Renata3|2019-07-30T02:33:00.000Z|Colors_of_class=wikitable?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T02:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Renata3&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Renata3|2019-07-30T02:33:00.000Z|Colors_of_class=wikitable?"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Renata3|2019-07-30T02:33:00.000Z|Colors_of_class=wikitable?"></span>Quick question, but I can't find the answer. What are the color codes for the default wikitable? For the grey background and the darker grey header? Thanks, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Renata3" title="User:Renata3">Renata</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Renata3" title="User talk:Renata3">talk</a>) 02:33, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Renata3|2019-07-30T02:33:00.000Z|Colors_of_class=wikitable?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T02:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Renata3&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Renata3|2019-07-30T02:33:00.000Z|Colors_of_class=wikitable?"></span>
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-<p>border:1px solid #a2a9b1; --<span style="font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#004d80;"> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Begoon" title="User talk:Begoon">Begoon</a></span> 02:40, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Begoon|2019-07-30T02:40:00.000Z|Colors_of_class=wikitable?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T02:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Begoon&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Begoon|2019-07-30T02:40:00.000Z|Colors_of_class=wikitable?"></span>
+<p>border:1px solid #a2a9b1; --<span style="font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#004d80;"> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Begoon" title="User talk:Begoon">Begoon</a></span> 02:40, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Begoon|2019-07-30T02:40:00.000Z|Colors_of_class=wikitable?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T02:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Begoon&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Begoon|2019-07-30T02:40:00.000Z|Colors_of_class=wikitable?"></span>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Alanscottwalker|2019-07-30T17:16:00.000Z|Title_italics_magazines"></span>So, see how the title <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poetry_(magazine)" title="Poetry (magazine)">Poetry (magazine)</a> is italicized on the article page only in the magazine title, <i><b>Poetry</b></i>, how do I get the title for <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Vogue" title="British Vogue">British Vogue</a> to read <b>British <i>Vogue</i></b> in the article title (again only italicizing the magazine's actual name)?  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alanscottwalker" title="User:Alanscottwalker">Alanscottwalker</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Alanscottwalker" title="User talk:Alanscottwalker">talk</a>) 17:16, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Alanscottwalker|2019-07-30T17:16:00.000Z|Title_italics_magazines&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|WOSlinker|2019-07-30T17:22:00.000Z|Alanscottwalker|2019-07-30T17:16:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T17:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Alanscottwalker&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Alanscottwalker|2019-07-30T17:16:00.000Z|Title_italics_magazines"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Alanscottwalker|2019-07-30T17:16:00.000Z|Title_italics_magazines"></span>So, see how the title <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poetry_(magazine)" title="Poetry (magazine)">Poetry (magazine)</a> is italicized on the article page only in the magazine title, <i><b>Poetry</b></i>, how do I get the title for <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Vogue" title="British Vogue">British Vogue</a> to read <b>British <i>Vogue</i></b> in the article title (again only italicizing the magazine's actual name)?  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alanscottwalker" title="User:Alanscottwalker">Alanscottwalker</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Alanscottwalker" title="User talk:Alanscottwalker">talk</a>) 17:16, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Alanscottwalker|2019-07-30T17:16:00.000Z|Title_italics_magazines&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|WOSlinker|2019-07-30T17:22:00.000Z|Alanscottwalker|2019-07-30T17:16:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T17:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Alanscottwalker&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Alanscottwalker|2019-07-30T17:16:00.000Z|Title_italics_magazines"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|WOSlinker|2019-07-30T17:22:00.000Z|Alanscottwalker|2019-07-30T17:16:00.000Z"></span>See <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=British_Vogue&amp;diff=908586169&amp;oldid=908581490">this edit</a>. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:WOSlinker" title="User:WOSlinker">WOSlinker</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:WOSlinker" title="User talk:WOSlinker">talk</a>) 17:22, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|WOSlinker|2019-07-30T17:22:00.000Z|Alanscottwalker|2019-07-30T17:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Alanscottwalker|2019-07-30T17:38:00.000Z|WOSlinker|2019-07-30T17:22:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T17:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;WOSlinker&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|WOSlinker|2019-07-30T17:22:00.000Z|Alanscottwalker|2019-07-30T17:16:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Alanscottwalker|2019-07-30T17:38:00.000Z|WOSlinker|2019-07-30T17:22:00.000Z"></span>Thanks. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alanscottwalker" title="User:Alanscottwalker">Alanscottwalker</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Alanscottwalker" title="User talk:Alanscottwalker">talk</a>) 17:38, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Alanscottwalker|2019-07-30T17:38:00.000Z|WOSlinker|2019-07-30T17:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T17:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Alanscottwalker&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Alanscottwalker|2019-07-30T17:38:00.000Z|WOSlinker|2019-07-30T17:22:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|WOSlinker|2019-07-30T17:22:00.000Z|Alanscottwalker|2019-07-30T17:16:00.000Z"></span>See <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=British_Vogue&amp;diff=908586169&amp;oldid=908581490">this edit</a>. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:WOSlinker" title="User:WOSlinker">WOSlinker</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:WOSlinker" title="User talk:WOSlinker">talk</a>) 17:22, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|WOSlinker|2019-07-30T17:22:00.000Z|Alanscottwalker|2019-07-30T17:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Alanscottwalker|2019-07-30T17:38:00.000Z|WOSlinker|2019-07-30T17:22:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T17:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;WOSlinker&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|WOSlinker|2019-07-30T17:22:00.000Z|Alanscottwalker|2019-07-30T17:16:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Alanscottwalker|2019-07-30T17:38:00.000Z|WOSlinker|2019-07-30T17:22:00.000Z"></span>Thanks. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alanscottwalker" title="User:Alanscottwalker">Alanscottwalker</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Alanscottwalker" title="User talk:Alanscottwalker">talk</a>) 17:38, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Alanscottwalker|2019-07-30T17:38:00.000Z|WOSlinker|2019-07-30T17:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T17:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Alanscottwalker&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Alanscottwalker|2019-07-30T17:38:00.000Z|WOSlinker|2019-07-30T17:22:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T15:43:00.000Z|Signature_with_unclosed_font_colours"></span>I need help working out how to fix the signature of <span class="plainlinks userlinks"><span class="userlinks-username"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Oddbodz" title="User:Oddbodz">Oddbodz</a></span> <span class="plainlinks">(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Oddbodz" title="User talk:Oddbodz">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Oddbodz" title="Special:Contributions/Oddbodz">contribs</a><span class="sysop-show"> <b>·</b> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:DeletedContributions/Oddbodz" title="Special:DeletedContributions/Oddbodz">deleted contribs</a></span> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&amp;user=Oddbodz">logs</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:AbuseLog&amp;wpSearchUser=Oddbodz">edit filter log</a><span class="sysop-show"> <b>·</b> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Block/Oddbodz" title="Special:Block/Oddbodz">block user</a></span> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&amp;type=block&amp;page=User:Oddbodz">block log</a>)</span></span> (inactive since May). There is a black font at the end which renders following text black, and therefor invisibly to users of the green-on-black gadget. There are other font colors in the signature which, if the black is removed, then bleed over into following text. I tried to fix it <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ginza_Mary&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=908572366">here</a>, but somehow buggered it up in another way. Help! Thanks, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 15:43, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T15:43:00.000Z|Signature_with_unclosed_font_colours&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Pppery|2019-07-30T15:47:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T15:43:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T15:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T15:43:00.000Z|Signature_with_unclosed_font_colours"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T15:43:00.000Z|Signature_with_unclosed_font_colours"></span>I need help working out how to fix the signature of <span class="plainlinks userlinks"><span class="userlinks-username"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Oddbodz" title="User:Oddbodz">Oddbodz</a></span> <span class="plainlinks">(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Oddbodz" title="User talk:Oddbodz">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Oddbodz" title="Special:Contributions/Oddbodz">contribs</a><span class="sysop-show"> <b>·</b> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:DeletedContributions/Oddbodz" title="Special:DeletedContributions/Oddbodz">deleted contribs</a></span> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&amp;user=Oddbodz">logs</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:AbuseLog&amp;wpSearchUser=Oddbodz">edit filter log</a><span class="sysop-show"> <b>·</b> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Block/Oddbodz" title="Special:Block/Oddbodz">block user</a></span> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&amp;type=block&amp;page=User:Oddbodz">block log</a>)</span></span> (inactive since May). There is a black font at the end which renders following text black, and therefor invisibly to users of the green-on-black gadget. There are other font colors in the signature which, if the black is removed, then bleed over into following text. I tried to fix it <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ginza_Mary&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=908572366">here</a>, but somehow buggered it up in another way. Help! Thanks, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 15:43, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T15:43:00.000Z|Signature_with_unclosed_font_colours&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Pppery|2019-07-30T15:47:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T15:43:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T15:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T15:43:00.000Z|Signature_with_unclosed_font_colours"></span>
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-<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/908573692" title="Special:Diff/908573692"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Pppery|2019-07-30T15:47:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T15:43:00.000Z"></span>done</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pppery" title="User:Pppery">* Pppery *</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pppery" title="User talk:Pppery"><sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub></a> 15:47, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pppery|2019-07-30T15:47:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T15:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T15:49:00.000Z|Pppery|2019-07-30T15:47:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T15:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pppery&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Pppery|2019-07-30T15:47:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T15:43:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T15:49:00.000Z|Pppery|2019-07-30T15:47:00.000Z"></span>Thanks - I'll point Oddbodz to that. Is it generally considered acceptable to apply the fix on pages where I see it causing problems? I don't like to edit another chap's signature, but I like not being able to read all the following comments even less. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 15:49, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T15:49:00.000Z|Pppery|2019-07-30T15:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-30T15:52:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T15:49:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T15:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T15:49:00.000Z|Pppery|2019-07-30T15:47:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-30T15:52:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T15:49:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pppery" title="User:Pppery">Pppery</a>:</span> if that is coming from a signature, that isn't a good fix, since you wont be able to insert that closing font tag after the timestamp in a signature.  That last font tag needs to be completely removed, and the others should be closed as a quick fix, see <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux/sandbox75" title="User:Xaosflux/sandbox75">User:Xaosflux/sandbox75</a> - really font is deprecated and there are much better fixes if this person is still editing. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 15:52, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-30T15:52:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T15:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-30T15:53:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-30T15:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T15:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-30T15:52:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T15:49:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-30T15:53:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-30T15:52:00.000Z"></span>DuncanHill, there are some bots that can fix this if it is on a lot of pages, you can ask at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BOTREQ" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BOTREQ">WP:BOTREQ</a>. In general if you see one fix it, unless it is on a user_talk page you are other wise editing (as it will cause "new message" flag for the page owner). — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 15:53, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-30T15:53:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-30T15:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T16:12:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-30T15:53:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T15:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-30T15:53:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-30T15:52:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T16:12:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-30T15:53:00.000Z"></span>A search <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&amp;limit=500&amp;offset=0&amp;ns0=1&amp;ns1=1&amp;ns2=1&amp;ns3=1&amp;ns4=1&amp;ns5=1&amp;ns6=1&amp;ns7=1&amp;ns8=1&amp;ns9=1&amp;ns10=1&amp;ns11=1&amp;ns12=1&amp;ns13=1&amp;ns14=1&amp;ns15=1&amp;ns100=1&amp;ns101=1&amp;ns108=1&amp;ns109=1&amp;ns118=1&amp;ns119=1&amp;ns446=1&amp;ns447=1&amp;ns710=1&amp;ns711=1&amp;ns828=1&amp;ns829=1&amp;ns2300=1&amp;ns2301=1&amp;ns2302=1&amp;ns2303=1&amp;search=linksto%3A%22User%3AOddbodz%22+insource%3A%22Oddbodz+font+color%3Dorange+font+face%3DHelvetica+Contribs+font+small+font+color%3Dblack%22">[29]</a> finds around 740 cases. This is a job for a bot or AWB. It's always OK to close open tags in signatures. I would also merge the nested font tags to get <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Oddbodz" title="User:Oddbodz"><font color="0C6E89" face="Helvetica"><b>Oddbodz</b></font></a> - <small>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Oddbodz" title="User talk:Oddbodz"><font color="green" face="Helvetica"><b>Talk</b></font></a>) (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Oddbodz" title="Special:Contributions/Oddbodz"><font color="orange" face="Helvetica"><b>Contribs</b></font></a>)</small>. If deprecated font tags stop working later then it's no big loss if old signatures are rendered as normal text. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 16:12, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T16:12:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-30T15:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T16:15:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T16:12:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T16:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T16:12:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-30T15:53:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T16:15:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T16:12:00.000Z"></span>Thanks all - I don't know how to explain things in bot request terms. I mean, I could tell them what I told you here, but I wouldn't understand what I was on about if I tried to explain how your fix works or how it would be applied. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 16:15, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T16:15:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T16:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-30T17:50:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T16:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|DannyS712|2019-07-30T18:35:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T16:15:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T16:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T16:15:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T16:12:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-30T17:50:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T16:15:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a>:</span> plain speak is fine there, something like "can one of the Linter signature fixing bots clean up Oddbodz's bad font tags?" with an example or 2. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 17:50, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-30T17:50:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T16:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T17:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-30T17:50:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T16:15:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DannyS712|2019-07-30T18:35:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T16:15:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a>:</span> Based on Xaosflux's sandbox, I'm filing a BRFA now --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DannyS712" title="User:DannyS712">DannyS712</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DannyS712" title="User talk:DannyS712">talk</a>) 18:35, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DannyS712|2019-07-30T18:35:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T16:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T19:35:00.000Z|DannyS712|2019-07-30T18:35:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T18:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DannyS712&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DannyS712|2019-07-30T18:35:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T16:15:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T19:35:00.000Z|DannyS712|2019-07-30T18:35:00.000Z"></span>Thank you, much appreciated. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 19:35, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:9,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T19:35:00.000Z|DannyS712|2019-07-30T18:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T19:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T19:35:00.000Z|DannyS712|2019-07-30T18:35:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/908573692" title="Special:Diff/908573692"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Pppery|2019-07-30T15:47:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T15:43:00.000Z"></span>done</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pppery" title="User:Pppery">* Pppery *</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pppery" title="User talk:Pppery"><sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub></a> 15:47, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pppery|2019-07-30T15:47:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T15:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T15:49:00.000Z|Pppery|2019-07-30T15:47:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T15:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pppery&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Pppery|2019-07-30T15:47:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T15:43:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T15:49:00.000Z|Pppery|2019-07-30T15:47:00.000Z"></span>Thanks - I'll point Oddbodz to that. Is it generally considered acceptable to apply the fix on pages where I see it causing problems? I don't like to edit another chap's signature, but I like not being able to read all the following comments even less. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 15:49, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T15:49:00.000Z|Pppery|2019-07-30T15:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-30T15:52:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T15:49:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T15:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T15:49:00.000Z|Pppery|2019-07-30T15:47:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-30T15:52:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T15:49:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pppery" title="User:Pppery">Pppery</a>:</span> if that is coming from a signature, that isn't a good fix, since you wont be able to insert that closing font tag after the timestamp in a signature.  That last font tag needs to be completely removed, and the others should be closed as a quick fix, see <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux/sandbox75" title="User:Xaosflux/sandbox75">User:Xaosflux/sandbox75</a> - really font is deprecated and there are much better fixes if this person is still editing. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 15:52, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-30T15:52:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T15:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-30T15:53:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-30T15:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T15:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-30T15:52:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T15:49:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-30T15:53:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-30T15:52:00.000Z"></span>DuncanHill, there are some bots that can fix this if it is on a lot of pages, you can ask at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BOTREQ" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BOTREQ">WP:BOTREQ</a>. In general if you see one fix it, unless it is on a user_talk page you are other wise editing (as it will cause "new message" flag for the page owner). — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 15:53, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-30T15:53:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-30T15:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T16:12:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-30T15:53:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T15:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-30T15:53:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-30T15:52:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T16:12:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-30T15:53:00.000Z"></span>A search <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&amp;limit=500&amp;offset=0&amp;ns0=1&amp;ns1=1&amp;ns2=1&amp;ns3=1&amp;ns4=1&amp;ns5=1&amp;ns6=1&amp;ns7=1&amp;ns8=1&amp;ns9=1&amp;ns10=1&amp;ns11=1&amp;ns12=1&amp;ns13=1&amp;ns14=1&amp;ns15=1&amp;ns100=1&amp;ns101=1&amp;ns108=1&amp;ns109=1&amp;ns118=1&amp;ns119=1&amp;ns446=1&amp;ns447=1&amp;ns710=1&amp;ns711=1&amp;ns828=1&amp;ns829=1&amp;ns2300=1&amp;ns2301=1&amp;ns2302=1&amp;ns2303=1&amp;search=linksto%3A%22User%3AOddbodz%22+insource%3A%22Oddbodz+font+color%3Dorange+font+face%3DHelvetica+Contribs+font+small+font+color%3Dblack%22">[29]</a> finds around 740 cases. This is a job for a bot or AWB. It's always OK to close open tags in signatures. I would also merge the nested font tags to get <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Oddbodz" title="User:Oddbodz"><font color="0C6E89" face="Helvetica"><b>Oddbodz</b></font></a> - <small>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Oddbodz" title="User talk:Oddbodz"><font color="green" face="Helvetica"><b>Talk</b></font></a>) (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Oddbodz" title="Special:Contributions/Oddbodz"><font color="orange" face="Helvetica"><b>Contribs</b></font></a>)</small>. If deprecated font tags stop working later then it's no big loss if old signatures are rendered as normal text. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 16:12, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T16:12:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-30T15:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T16:15:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T16:12:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T16:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T16:12:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-30T15:53:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T16:15:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T16:12:00.000Z"></span>Thanks all - I don't know how to explain things in bot request terms. I mean, I could tell them what I told you here, but I wouldn't understand what I was on about if I tried to explain how your fix works or how it would be applied. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 16:15, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T16:15:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T16:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-30T17:50:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T16:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|DannyS712|2019-07-30T18:35:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T16:15:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T16:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T16:15:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T16:12:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-30T17:50:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T16:15:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a>:</span> plain speak is fine there, something like "can one of the Linter signature fixing bots clean up Oddbodz's bad font tags?" with an example or 2. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 17:50, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-30T17:50:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T16:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T17:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-30T17:50:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T16:15:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DannyS712|2019-07-30T18:35:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T16:15:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a>:</span> Based on Xaosflux's sandbox, I'm filing a BRFA now --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DannyS712" title="User:DannyS712">DannyS712</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DannyS712" title="User talk:DannyS712">talk</a>) 18:35, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DannyS712|2019-07-30T18:35:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T16:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T19:35:00.000Z|DannyS712|2019-07-30T18:35:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T18:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DannyS712&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DannyS712|2019-07-30T18:35:00.000Z|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T16:15:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T19:35:00.000Z|DannyS712|2019-07-30T18:35:00.000Z"></span>Thank you, much appreciated. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) 19:35, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:9,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T19:35:00.000Z|DannyS712|2019-07-30T18:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T19:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DuncanHill&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DuncanHill|2019-07-30T19:35:00.000Z|DannyS712|2019-07-30T18:35:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Aram|2019-07-31T12:04:00.000Z|Connecting_between_pages"></span>Hello everyone, how to connect between a template and a CSS page? Thanks! ⇒ <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Aram" title="User:Aram"><span style="color:#ff0;background:#000;font-family:cursive;text-shadow:3px 3px 5px #ff0;">Aram</span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Aram" title="User talk:Aram"><span style="color:#000;background:#ff0;font-family:cursive;text-shadow:3px 3px 5px #000;">Talk</span></a> 12:04, 31 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Aram|2019-07-31T12:04:00.000Z|Connecting_between_pages&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-31T13:15:00.000Z|Aram|2019-07-31T12:04:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-31T12:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Aram&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Aram|2019-07-31T12:04:00.000Z|Connecting_between_pages"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Aram|2019-07-31T12:04:00.000Z|Connecting_between_pages"></span>Hello everyone, how to connect between a template and a CSS page? Thanks! ⇒ <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Aram" title="User:Aram"><span style="color:#ff0;background:#000;font-family:cursive;text-shadow:3px 3px 5px #ff0;">Aram</span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Aram" title="User talk:Aram"><span style="color:#000;background:#ff0;font-family:cursive;text-shadow:3px 3px 5px #000;">Talk</span></a> 12:04, 31 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Aram|2019-07-31T12:04:00.000Z|Connecting_between_pages&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-31T13:15:00.000Z|Aram|2019-07-31T12:04:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-31T12:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Aram&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Aram|2019-07-31T12:04:00.000Z|Connecting_between_pages"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-31T13:15:00.000Z|Aram|2019-07-31T12:04:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Aram" title="User:Aram">Aram</a>:</span> see <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:TemplateStyles" title="Wikipedia:TemplateStyles">Wikipedia:TemplateStyles</a>. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 13:15, 31 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-31T13:15:00.000Z|Aram|2019-07-31T12:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-31T13:16:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-31T13:15:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-31T13:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-31T13:15:00.000Z|Aram|2019-07-31T12:04:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-31T13:16:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-31T13:15:00.000Z"></span>Also <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Templates_using_TemplateStyles" title="Category:Templates using TemplateStyles">Category:Templates using TemplateStyles</a> has lots of reusable examples. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 13:16, 31 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-31T13:16:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-31T13:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-31T13:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-31T13:16:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-31T13:15:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-31T13:15:00.000Z|Aram|2019-07-31T12:04:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Aram" title="User:Aram">Aram</a>:</span> see <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:TemplateStyles" title="Wikipedia:TemplateStyles">Wikipedia:TemplateStyles</a>. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 13:15, 31 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-31T13:15:00.000Z|Aram|2019-07-31T12:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-31T13:16:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-31T13:15:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-31T13:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-31T13:15:00.000Z|Aram|2019-07-31T12:04:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-31T13:16:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-31T13:15:00.000Z"></span>Also <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Templates_using_TemplateStyles" title="Category:Templates using TemplateStyles">Category:Templates using TemplateStyles</a> has lots of reusable examples. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 13:16, 31 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-31T13:16:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-31T13:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-31T13:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-31T13:16:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-31T13:15:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Begoon|2019-07-29T23:21:00.000Z|'Fun'_with_external_link_'marks'"></span>"Discovered" at <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Principle_of_Some_Astonishment&amp;oldid=908005456#Random_thing_I_noticed">Wikipedia talk:Principle of Some Astonishment#Random thing I noticed</a> when somebody accidentally "nested" italic marks. The "nesting" obviously doesn't work, and is an error, because the italics are effectively 'closed' before the link text and 'opened' again after it, so you don't get italic text, but check out the funky "extra" link mark which gets added on the left of the link text... 
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 <ul><li><code>'''[https://www.google.com '''''italic text''''']'''</code> = <b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.google.com"></a></b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.google.com"><i>italic text</i><b></b></a></li>
 <li><code>''[https://www.google.com '''''bold text''''']''</code> = <i><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.google.com"></a></i><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.google.com"><b>bold text</b><i></i></a></li></ul>
-<p>--<span style="font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#004d80;"> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Begoon" title="User talk:Begoon">Begoon</a></span> 23:21, 29 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Begoon|2019-07-29T23:21:00.000Z|'Fun'_with_external_link_'marks'&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T14:48:00.000Z|Begoon|2019-07-29T23:21:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-29T23:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Begoon&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Begoon|2019-07-29T23:21:00.000Z|'Fun'_with_external_link_'marks'"></span>
+<p>--<span style="font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#004d80;"> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Begoon" title="User talk:Begoon">Begoon</a></span> 23:21, 29 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Begoon|2019-07-29T23:21:00.000Z|'Fun'_with_external_link_'marks'&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T14:48:00.000Z|Begoon|2019-07-29T23:21:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-29T23:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Begoon&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Begoon|2019-07-29T23:21:00.000Z|'Fun'_with_external_link_'marks'"></span>
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-<dl><dd><code><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T14:48:00.000Z|Begoon|2019-07-29T23:21:00.000Z"></span>''[https://www.google.com ''normal text'']''</code> produces the html <code>&lt;i>&lt;a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.google.com">&lt;/a>&lt;/i>&lt;a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.google.com">normal text&lt;i>&lt;/i>&lt;/a></code>. The link is split in two links to the same target. The first arrow belongs to the first link which has no link text. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 14:48, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T14:48:00.000Z|Begoon|2019-07-29T23:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Begoon|2019-07-30T22:22:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T14:48:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T14:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T14:48:00.000Z|Begoon|2019-07-29T23:21:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Begoon|2019-07-30T22:22:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T14:48:00.000Z"></span>Yeah, I'd looked at the html source and seen that. It's an oddity that this "error" produces a double-link like that, as I said at the talk page it's something I've never seen happen before in 10 years, but an odd "bug" nonetheless... Looks as though the wikitext 'parser' is somehow seeing both <code>&lt;i>...&lt;/i></code> 'portions' as separate 'entities' that each need linking, yet using the single <code>href</code> target address... --<span style="font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#004d80;"> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Begoon" title="User talk:Begoon">Begoon</a></span> 22:22, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Begoon|2019-07-30T22:22:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T14:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Anomie|2019-07-31T13:31:00.000Z|Begoon|2019-07-30T22:22:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T22:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Begoon&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Begoon|2019-07-30T22:22:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T14:48:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Anomie|2019-07-31T13:31:00.000Z|Begoon|2019-07-30T22:22:00.000Z"></span>The wikitext parser produces misnested HTML: <code>&lt;i>&lt;a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.google.com">&lt;/i>normal text&lt;i>&lt;/a></code>. HTML5 specifies that that "<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tag_soup" title="Tag soup">tag soup</a>" be corrected in a manner that produces the empty link, and thus that's what <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/RemexHtml" class="extiw" title="mw:RemexHtml">RemexHtml</a> does. Firefox 68 does the same if given that misnested HTML, BTW, and other modern browsers should as well.</p>Parsoid, on the other hand, seems to interpret that wikitext to produce <code>&lt;i>&lt;a rel="mw:ExtLink" href="https://www.google.com" class="external text">&lt;i>normal text&lt;/i>&lt;/a>&lt;/i></code>, i.e. it doesn't recognize "misnested" apostrophe markup and link markup in the first place. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anomie" title="User:Anomie">Anomie</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anomie" title="User talk:Anomie">⚔</a> 13:31, 31 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Anomie|2019-07-31T13:31:00.000Z|Begoon|2019-07-30T22:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-31T13:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Anomie&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Anomie|2019-07-31T13:31:00.000Z|Begoon|2019-07-30T22:22:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><code><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T14:48:00.000Z|Begoon|2019-07-29T23:21:00.000Z"></span>''[https://www.google.com ''normal text'']''</code> produces the html <code>&lt;i>&lt;a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.google.com">&lt;/a>&lt;/i>&lt;a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.google.com">normal text&lt;i>&lt;/i>&lt;/a></code>. The link is split in two links to the same target. The first arrow belongs to the first link which has no link text. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 14:48, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T14:48:00.000Z|Begoon|2019-07-29T23:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Begoon|2019-07-30T22:22:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T14:48:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T14:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T14:48:00.000Z|Begoon|2019-07-29T23:21:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Begoon|2019-07-30T22:22:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T14:48:00.000Z"></span>Yeah, I'd looked at the html source and seen that. It's an oddity that this "error" produces a double-link like that, as I said at the talk page it's something I've never seen happen before in 10 years, but an odd "bug" nonetheless... Looks as though the wikitext 'parser' is somehow seeing both <code>&lt;i>...&lt;/i></code> 'portions' as separate 'entities' that each need linking, yet using the single <code>href</code> target address... --<span style="font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#004d80;"> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Begoon" title="User talk:Begoon">Begoon</a></span> 22:22, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Begoon|2019-07-30T22:22:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T14:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Anomie|2019-07-31T13:31:00.000Z|Begoon|2019-07-30T22:22:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T22:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Begoon&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Begoon|2019-07-30T22:22:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T14:48:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Anomie|2019-07-31T13:31:00.000Z|Begoon|2019-07-30T22:22:00.000Z"></span>The wikitext parser produces misnested HTML: <code>&lt;i>&lt;a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.google.com">&lt;/i>normal text&lt;i>&lt;/a></code>. HTML5 specifies that that "<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tag_soup" title="Tag soup">tag soup</a>" be corrected in a manner that produces the empty link, and thus that's what <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/RemexHtml" class="extiw" title="mw:RemexHtml">RemexHtml</a> does. Firefox 68 does the same if given that misnested HTML, BTW, and other modern browsers should as well.</p>Parsoid, on the other hand, seems to interpret that wikitext to produce <code>&lt;i>&lt;a rel="mw:ExtLink" href="https://www.google.com" class="external text">&lt;i>normal text&lt;/i>&lt;/a>&lt;/i></code>, i.e. it doesn't recognize "misnested" apostrophe markup and link markup in the first place. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anomie" title="User:Anomie">Anomie</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anomie" title="User talk:Anomie">⚔</a> 13:31, 31 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Anomie|2019-07-31T13:31:00.000Z|Begoon|2019-07-30T22:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-31T13:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Anomie&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Anomie|2019-07-31T13:31:00.000Z|Begoon|2019-07-30T22:22:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id="Switch_transclusion_on.2Foff_depending_on_how_recently_a_template.2Fsubpage_has_been_edited.3F"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Switch_transclusion_on/off_depending_on_how_recently_a_template/subpage_has_been_edited?" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Switch_transclusion_on\/off_depending_on_how_recently_a_template\/subpage_has_been|2019-07-31T10:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Kusma|2019-07-31T10:01:00.000Z|Switch_transclusion_on\/off_depending_on_how_recently_a_template\/subpage_has_been&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Switch_transclusion_on/off_depending_on_how_recently_a_template/subpage_has_been|2019-07-31T10:01:00.000Z"></span>Switch transclusion on/off depending on how recently a template/subpage has been edited?<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Switch_transclusion_on/off_depending_on_how_recently_a_template/subpage_has_been|2019-07-31T10:01:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Kusma|2019-07-31T10:01:00.000Z|Switch_transclusion_on/off_depending_on_how_recently_a_template/subpage_has_been"></span>Do we have a template/magic word combination that can achieve the following? I would like <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Germany" title="Portal:Germany">Portal:Germany</a> to display <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Germany/Germany_news" title="Portal:Germany/Germany news">Portal:Germany/Germany news</a> whenever that page has been recently edited, and not display it when it is too embarrassing (say, when the last edit is more than a month ago). Is there some easy way to achieve this? —<b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kusma" title="User:Kusma">Kusma</a></b> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kusma" title="User talk:Kusma">t</a>·<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kusma" title="Special:Contributions/Kusma">c</a>) 10:01, 31 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Kusma|2019-07-31T10:01:00.000Z|Switch_transclusion_on\/off_depending_on_how_recently_a_template\/subpage_has_been&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-31T10:42:00.000Z|Kusma|2019-07-31T10:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-31T10:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Kusma&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Kusma|2019-07-31T10:01:00.000Z|Switch_transclusion_on/off_depending_on_how_recently_a_template/subpage_has_been"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Kusma|2019-07-31T10:01:00.000Z|Switch_transclusion_on/off_depending_on_how_recently_a_template/subpage_has_been"></span>Do we have a template/magic word combination that can achieve the following? I would like <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Germany" title="Portal:Germany">Portal:Germany</a> to display <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Germany/Germany_news" title="Portal:Germany/Germany news">Portal:Germany/Germany news</a> whenever that page has been recently edited, and not display it when it is too embarrassing (say, when the last edit is more than a month ago). Is there some easy way to achieve this? —<b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kusma" title="User:Kusma">Kusma</a></b> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kusma" title="User talk:Kusma">t</a>·<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kusma" title="Special:Contributions/Kusma">c</a>) 10:01, 31 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Kusma|2019-07-31T10:01:00.000Z|Switch_transclusion_on\/off_depending_on_how_recently_a_template\/subpage_has_been&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-31T10:42:00.000Z|Kusma|2019-07-31T10:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-31T10:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Kusma&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Kusma|2019-07-31T10:01:00.000Z|Switch_transclusion_on/off_depending_on_how_recently_a_template/subpage_has_been"></span>
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-<dl><dd><code><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-31T10:42:00.000Z|Kusma|2019-07-31T10:01:00.000Z"></span>{{#ifexpr:{{#time:U|{{REVISIONTIMESTAMP:Portal:Germany/Germany news}}}} > {{#time:U|-30 days}} | {{Portal:Germany/Germany news}}}}</code> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 10:42, 31 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-31T10:42:00.000Z|Kusma|2019-07-31T10:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Kusma|2019-07-31T11:12:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-31T10:42:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-31T10:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-31T10:42:00.000Z|Kusma|2019-07-31T10:01:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Kusma|2019-07-31T11:12:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-31T10:42:00.000Z"></span>PrimeHunter</a>, that's brilliant, thanks! —<b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kusma" title="User:Kusma">Kusma</a></b> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kusma" title="User talk:Kusma">t</a>·<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kusma" title="Special:Contributions/Kusma">c</a>) 11:12, 31 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Kusma|2019-07-31T11:12:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-31T10:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-31T13:28:00.000Z|Kusma|2019-07-31T11:12:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-31T11:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Kusma&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Kusma|2019-07-31T11:12:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-31T10:42:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-31T13:28:00.000Z|Kusma|2019-07-31T11:12:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kusma" title="User:Kusma">Kusma</a>:</span> keep in mind, that dynamic page content is not guaranteed, <b>especially</b> for non-logged in users; rendered pages are cached and simply viewing the page as a reader does not force re-evaluation of templates. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 13:28, 31 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-31T13:28:00.000Z|Kusma|2019-07-31T11:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Kusma|2019-07-31T14:08:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-31T13:28:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-31T13:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-31T13:28:00.000Z|Kusma|2019-07-31T11:12:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Kusma|2019-07-31T14:08:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-31T13:28:00.000Z"></span>That's okay, the worst things that can happen here are that the portal wrongly doesn't display a refreshed "news" section or displays an outdated one that I would rather hide. Neither causes any serious problems. But it is a good point that we shouldn't rely on re-evaluation of templates/magic words for anything critical. —<b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kusma" title="User:Kusma">Kusma</a></b> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kusma" title="User talk:Kusma">t</a>·<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kusma" title="Special:Contributions/Kusma">c</a>) 14:08, 31 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Kusma|2019-07-31T14:08:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-31T13:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-31T14:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Kusma&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Kusma|2019-07-31T14:08:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-31T13:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><code><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-31T10:42:00.000Z|Kusma|2019-07-31T10:01:00.000Z"></span>{{#ifexpr:{{#time:U|{{REVISIONTIMESTAMP:Portal:Germany/Germany news}}}} > {{#time:U|-30 days}} | {{Portal:Germany/Germany news}}}}</code> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 10:42, 31 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-31T10:42:00.000Z|Kusma|2019-07-31T10:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Kusma|2019-07-31T11:12:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-31T10:42:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-31T10:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-31T10:42:00.000Z|Kusma|2019-07-31T10:01:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Kusma|2019-07-31T11:12:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-31T10:42:00.000Z"></span>PrimeHunter</a>, that's brilliant, thanks! —<b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kusma" title="User:Kusma">Kusma</a></b> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kusma" title="User talk:Kusma">t</a>·<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kusma" title="Special:Contributions/Kusma">c</a>) 11:12, 31 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Kusma|2019-07-31T11:12:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-31T10:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-31T13:28:00.000Z|Kusma|2019-07-31T11:12:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-31T11:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Kusma&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Kusma|2019-07-31T11:12:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-31T10:42:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-31T13:28:00.000Z|Kusma|2019-07-31T11:12:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kusma" title="User:Kusma">Kusma</a>:</span> keep in mind, that dynamic page content is not guaranteed, <b>especially</b> for non-logged in users; rendered pages are cached and simply viewing the page as a reader does not force re-evaluation of templates. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 13:28, 31 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-31T13:28:00.000Z|Kusma|2019-07-31T11:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Kusma|2019-07-31T14:08:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-31T13:28:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-31T13:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-31T13:28:00.000Z|Kusma|2019-07-31T11:12:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Kusma|2019-07-31T14:08:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-31T13:28:00.000Z"></span>That's okay, the worst things that can happen here are that the portal wrongly doesn't display a refreshed "news" section or displays an outdated one that I would rather hide. Neither causes any serious problems. But it is a good point that we shouldn't rely on re-evaluation of templates/magic words for anything critical. —<b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kusma" title="User:Kusma">Kusma</a></b> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kusma" title="User talk:Kusma">t</a>·<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kusma" title="Special:Contributions/Kusma">c</a>) 14:08, 31 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Kusma|2019-07-31T14:08:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-31T13:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-31T14:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Kusma&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Kusma|2019-07-31T14:08:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-31T13:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id="Connecting_to_wikidata.3F"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Connecting_to_wikidata?" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Connecting_to_wikidata?|2019-07-30T14:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-07-30T14:43:00.000Z|Connecting_to_wikidata?&quot;,&quot;c|StarryGrandma|2019-07-30T15:50:00.000Z|Connecting_to_wikidata?&quot;,&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-31T19:13:00.000Z|Connecting_to_wikidata?&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Connecting_to_wikidata?|2019-07-30T14:43:00.000Z"></span>Connecting to wikidata?<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Connecting_to_wikidata?|2019-07-30T14:43:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RoySmith|2019-07-30T14:43:00.000Z|Connecting_to_wikidata?"></span>What's the fastest way to see if there's an existing wikidata entry for an article?  What I do now is open another window, navigate to wikidata.org, and copy-paste the article title into the search box.  Surely there's a more streamlined (one-click?) way to do this?  -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> 14:43, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-07-30T14:43:00.000Z|Connecting_to_wikidata?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T15:18:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-07-30T14:43:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T14:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RoySmith&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RoySmith|2019-07-30T14:43:00.000Z|Connecting_to_wikidata?"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RoySmith|2019-07-30T14:43:00.000Z|Connecting_to_wikidata?"></span>What's the fastest way to see if there's an existing wikidata entry for an article?  What I do now is open another window, navigate to wikidata.org, and copy-paste the article title into the search box.  Surely there's a more streamlined (one-click?) way to do this?  -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> 14:43, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-07-30T14:43:00.000Z|Connecting_to_wikidata?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T15:18:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-07-30T14:43:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T14:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RoySmith&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RoySmith|2019-07-30T14:43:00.000Z|Connecting_to_wikidata?"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T15:18:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-07-30T14:43:00.000Z"></span>You can add a "Wikidata search" link for the page name under Tools with the below in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MyPage/common.js" title="Special:MyPage/common.js">your common JavaScript</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 15:18, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T15:18:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-07-30T14:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T15:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T15:18:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-07-30T14:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T15:18:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-07-30T14:43:00.000Z"></span>You can add a "Wikidata search" link for the page name under Tools with the below in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MyPage/common.js" title="Special:MyPage/common.js">your common JavaScript</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 15:18, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T15:18:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-07-30T14:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T15:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T15:18:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-07-30T14:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <div class="mw-highlight mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"><pre><span></span><span class="nx"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|StarryGrandma|2019-07-30T15:50:00.000Z|Connecting_to_wikidata?"></span>mw</span><span class="p">.</span><span class="nx">loader</span><span class="p">.</span><span class="nx">using</span><span class="p">([</span><span class="s1">'mediawiki.util'</span><span class="p">],</span> <span class="kd">function</span> <span class="p">()</span> <span class="p">{</span>
   <span class="nx">mw</span><span class="p">.</span><span class="nx">util</span><span class="p">.</span><span class="nx">addPortletLink</span><span class="p">(</span>
     <span class="s1">'p-tb'</span><span class="p">,</span>
@@ -1668,23 +1668,23 @@ Sorry should have said, monobook, Edge, Win10. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
   <span class="p">);</span>
 <span class="p">});</span>
 </pre></div>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd>You can also have a <s>small box</s> single line display under an article's title linking to the Wikidata entry (if one exists) by adding this script to your common.js. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:StarryGrandma" title="User:StarryGrandma">StarryGrandma</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:StarryGrandma" title="User talk:StarryGrandma">talk</a>) 15:50, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|StarryGrandma|2019-07-30T15:50:00.000Z|Connecting_to_wikidata?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T15:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;StarryGrandma&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|StarryGrandma|2019-07-30T15:50:00.000Z|Connecting_to_wikidata?"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd>You can also have a <s>small box</s> single line display under an article's title linking to the Wikidata entry (if one exists) by adding this script to your common.js. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:StarryGrandma" title="User:StarryGrandma">StarryGrandma</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:StarryGrandma" title="User talk:StarryGrandma">talk</a>) 15:50, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|StarryGrandma|2019-07-30T15:50:00.000Z|Connecting_to_wikidata?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T15:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;StarryGrandma&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|StarryGrandma|2019-07-30T15:50:00.000Z|Connecting_to_wikidata?"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <pre><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-31T19:13:00.000Z|Connecting_to_wikidata?"></span> // <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Yair_rand/WikidataInfo.js" class="extiw" title="d:User:Yair rand/WikidataInfo.js">d:User:Yair rand/WikidataInfo.js</a>
  mw.loader.load( '//www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=User:Yair_rand/WikidataInfo.js&amp;action=raw&amp;ctype=text/javascript' );
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-<dl><dd>There should be a built-in "Wikidata item" link under Tools in the left sidebar, shown only if an item exists. <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a>:</span> Do you not see this link? <span style="font-family:sans-serif">— <span style="font-weight:bold"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal" title="User:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal" title="User talk:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:green">talk</span></a></sup></span></span> 19:13, 31 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-31T19:13:00.000Z|Connecting_to_wikidata?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-31T19:45:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-07-31T19:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Izno|2019-07-31T22:02:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-07-31T19:13:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-31T19:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-31T19:13:00.000Z|Connecting_to_wikidata?"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-31T19:45:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-07-31T19:13:00.000Z"></span>I know the link. I may have misunderstood the question. I thought it was about an easy way to search for a possible Wikidata entry to add the article to if it doesn't already have one. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 19:45, 31 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-31T19:45:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-07-31T19:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-31T19:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-31T19:45:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-07-31T19:13:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Izno|2019-07-31T22:02:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-07-31T19:13:00.000Z"></span>MA, yes, I think the question is whether an (other) item exist covering the same topic as an article, not whether the article is connected to a Wikidata item. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 22:02, 31 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Izno|2019-07-31T22:02:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-07-31T19:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-01T15:08:00.000Z|Izno|2019-07-31T22:02:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-31T22:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Izno&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Izno|2019-07-31T22:02:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-07-31T19:13:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-01T15:08:00.000Z|Izno|2019-07-31T22:02:00.000Z"></span>Thanks, and sorry for the noise. I read "existing wikidata entry for an article" as being a connected one. Furthermore many people don't even know about the links under Tools, so I wanted to make sure that didn't go unnoticed. <span style="font-family:sans-serif">— <span style="font-weight:bold"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal" title="User:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal" title="User talk:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:green">talk</span></a></sup></span></span> 15:08, 1 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-01T15:08:00.000Z|Izno|2019-07-31T22:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-01T16:26:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-08-01T15:08:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-01T15:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-01T15:08:00.000Z|Izno|2019-07-31T22:02:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66315" class="extiw" title="phab:T66315"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Izno|2019-08-01T16:26:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-08-01T15:08:00.000Z"></span>The link is getting moved</a>, but that's just an aside. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 16:26, 1 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-01T16:26:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-08-01T15:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-01T16:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Izno&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Izno|2019-08-01T16:26:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-08-01T15:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd>There should be a built-in "Wikidata item" link under Tools in the left sidebar, shown only if an item exists. <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a>:</span> Do you not see this link? <span style="font-family:sans-serif">— <span style="font-weight:bold"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal" title="User:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal" title="User talk:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:green">talk</span></a></sup></span></span> 19:13, 31 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-31T19:13:00.000Z|Connecting_to_wikidata?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-31T19:45:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-07-31T19:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Izno|2019-07-31T22:02:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-07-31T19:13:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-31T19:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal|2019-07-31T19:13:00.000Z|Connecting_to_wikidata?"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-31T19:45:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-07-31T19:13:00.000Z"></span>I know the link. I may have misunderstood the question. I thought it was about an easy way to search for a possible Wikidata entry to add the article to if it doesn't already have one. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 19:45, 31 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-31T19:45:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-07-31T19:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-31T19:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-31T19:45:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-07-31T19:13:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Izno|2019-07-31T22:02:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-07-31T19:13:00.000Z"></span>MA, yes, I think the question is whether an (other) item exist covering the same topic as an article, not whether the article is connected to a Wikidata item. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 22:02, 31 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Izno|2019-07-31T22:02:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-07-31T19:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-01T15:08:00.000Z|Izno|2019-07-31T22:02:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-31T22:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Izno&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Izno|2019-07-31T22:02:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-07-31T19:13:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-01T15:08:00.000Z|Izno|2019-07-31T22:02:00.000Z"></span>Thanks, and sorry for the noise. I read "existing wikidata entry for an article" as being a connected one. Furthermore many people don't even know about the links under Tools, so I wanted to make sure that didn't go unnoticed. <span style="font-family:sans-serif">— <span style="font-weight:bold"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal" title="User:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal" title="User talk:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:green">talk</span></a></sup></span></span> 15:08, 1 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-01T15:08:00.000Z|Izno|2019-07-31T22:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-01T16:26:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-08-01T15:08:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-01T15:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-01T15:08:00.000Z|Izno|2019-07-31T22:02:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66315" class="extiw" title="phab:T66315"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Izno|2019-08-01T16:26:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-08-01T15:08:00.000Z"></span>The link is getting moved</a>, but that's just an aside. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 16:26, 1 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-01T16:26:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-08-01T15:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-01T16:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Izno&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Izno|2019-08-01T16:26:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-08-01T15:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Broken_template_messing_up_page_formatting" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Broken_template_messing_up_page_formatting|2019-08-01T08:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Mathglot|2019-08-01T08:58:00.000Z|Broken_template_messing_up_page_formatting&quot;,&quot;c|Mathglot|2019-08-01T09:03:00.000Z|Broken_template_messing_up_page_formatting&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Broken_template_messing_up_page_formatting|2019-08-01T08:58:00.000Z"></span>Broken template messing up page formatting<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Broken_template_messing_up_page_formatting|2019-08-01T08:58:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Paine_Ellsworth" title="User:Paine Ellsworth"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Mathglot|2019-08-01T08:58:00.000Z|Broken_template_messing_up_page_formatting"></span>User:Paine Ellsworth</a>, can you or someone please revert <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/853052043" title="Special:Diff/853052043">this edit</a> at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Sidebar_with_collapsible_lists" title="Template:Sidebar with collapsible lists">Template:Sidebar with collapsible lists</a>?  It is badly breaking *some* pages that transclude it.  See <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_homosexuality" title="Catholic Church and homosexuality">Catholic Church and homosexuality</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mathglot" title="User:Mathglot">Mathglot</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mathglot" title="User talk:Mathglot">talk</a>) 08:58, 1 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mathglot|2019-08-01T08:58:00.000Z|Broken_template_messing_up_page_formatting&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-01T08:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mathglot&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Mathglot|2019-08-01T08:58:00.000Z|Broken_template_messing_up_page_formatting"></span>
-</p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Mathglot|2019-08-01T09:03:00.000Z|Broken_template_messing_up_page_formatting"></span>Wait, that's a <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:HIDDEN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:HIDDEN">hidden text</a>-only change, so how could that possibly be the cause?  But what else has changed, that would break dozens of older versions of the article, that were definitely not broken this morning? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/861002525" title="Special:PermanentLink/861002525">Here's version 861002525</a> from 500 edits ago; just as broken. I can't understand what's happened, here. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mathglot" title="User:Mathglot">Mathglot</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mathglot" title="User talk:Mathglot">talk</a>) 09:03, 1 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mathglot|2019-08-01T09:03:00.000Z|Broken_template_messing_up_page_formatting&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nardog|2019-08-01T09:11:00.000Z|Mathglot|2019-08-01T09:03:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-01T09:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mathglot&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Mathglot|2019-08-01T09:03:00.000Z|Broken_template_messing_up_page_formatting"></span>
+<p><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Paine_Ellsworth" title="User:Paine Ellsworth"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Mathglot|2019-08-01T08:58:00.000Z|Broken_template_messing_up_page_formatting"></span>User:Paine Ellsworth</a>, can you or someone please revert <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/853052043" title="Special:Diff/853052043">this edit</a> at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Sidebar_with_collapsible_lists" title="Template:Sidebar with collapsible lists">Template:Sidebar with collapsible lists</a>?  It is badly breaking *some* pages that transclude it.  See <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_homosexuality" title="Catholic Church and homosexuality">Catholic Church and homosexuality</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mathglot" title="User:Mathglot">Mathglot</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mathglot" title="User talk:Mathglot">talk</a>) 08:58, 1 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mathglot|2019-08-01T08:58:00.000Z|Broken_template_messing_up_page_formatting&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-01T08:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mathglot&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Mathglot|2019-08-01T08:58:00.000Z|Broken_template_messing_up_page_formatting"></span>
+</p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Mathglot|2019-08-01T09:03:00.000Z|Broken_template_messing_up_page_formatting"></span>Wait, that's a <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:HIDDEN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:HIDDEN">hidden text</a>-only change, so how could that possibly be the cause?  But what else has changed, that would break dozens of older versions of the article, that were definitely not broken this morning? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/861002525" title="Special:PermanentLink/861002525">Here's version 861002525</a> from 500 edits ago; just as broken. I can't understand what's happened, here. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mathglot" title="User:Mathglot">Mathglot</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mathglot" title="User talk:Mathglot">talk</a>) 09:03, 1 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mathglot|2019-08-01T09:03:00.000Z|Broken_template_messing_up_page_formatting&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nardog|2019-08-01T09:11:00.000Z|Mathglot|2019-08-01T09:03:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-01T09:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mathglot&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Mathglot|2019-08-01T09:03:00.000Z|Broken_template_messing_up_page_formatting"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-08-01T09:11:00.000Z|Mathglot|2019-08-01T09:03:00.000Z"></span>The problem is (was) in {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Catholic_Church_sidebar" title="Template:Catholic Church sidebar">Catholic Church sidebar</a>}}, not {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Sidebar_with_collapsible_lists" title="Template:Sidebar with collapsible lists">Sidebar with collapsible lists</a>}}. It was <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/908824875" title="Special:Diff/908824875">this edit</a> by <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Royalistandlegitimist&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Royalistandlegitimist (page does not exist)">Royalistandlegitimist</a> that broke the template. I advise Royalistandlegitimist to take advantage of the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Catholic_Church_sidebar/sandbox" title="Template:Catholic Church sidebar/sandbox">sandbox</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Catholic_Church_sidebar/testcases" title="Template:Catholic Church sidebar/testcases">testcases</a> before making changes to the template. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 09:11, 1 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-08-01T09:11:00.000Z|Mathglot|2019-08-01T09:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Mathglot|2019-08-01T17:41:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-08-01T09:11:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-01T09:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-08-01T09:11:00.000Z|Mathglot|2019-08-01T09:03:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Mathglot|2019-08-01T17:41:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-08-01T09:11:00.000Z"></span>Thanks, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a>, for the fix! (Apologies to Paine; not only weren't they the cause of the problem, but that edit was (nearly exactly!) a year ago. I was too tired and in too much of a hurry to see clearly.) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mathglot" title="User:Mathglot">Mathglot</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mathglot" title="User talk:Mathglot">talk</a>) 17:41, 1 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mathglot|2019-08-01T17:41:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-08-01T09:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-01T17:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mathglot&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Mathglot|2019-08-01T17:41:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-08-01T09:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-08-01T09:11:00.000Z|Mathglot|2019-08-01T09:03:00.000Z"></span>The problem is (was) in {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Catholic_Church_sidebar" title="Template:Catholic Church sidebar">Catholic Church sidebar</a>}}, not {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Sidebar_with_collapsible_lists" title="Template:Sidebar with collapsible lists">Sidebar with collapsible lists</a>}}. It was <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/908824875" title="Special:Diff/908824875">this edit</a> by <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Royalistandlegitimist&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Royalistandlegitimist (page does not exist)">Royalistandlegitimist</a> that broke the template. I advise Royalistandlegitimist to take advantage of the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Catholic_Church_sidebar/sandbox" title="Template:Catholic Church sidebar/sandbox">sandbox</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Catholic_Church_sidebar/testcases" title="Template:Catholic Church sidebar/testcases">testcases</a> before making changes to the template. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 09:11, 1 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-08-01T09:11:00.000Z|Mathglot|2019-08-01T09:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Mathglot|2019-08-01T17:41:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-08-01T09:11:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-01T09:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-08-01T09:11:00.000Z|Mathglot|2019-08-01T09:03:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Mathglot|2019-08-01T17:41:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-08-01T09:11:00.000Z"></span>Thanks, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a>, for the fix! (Apologies to Paine; not only weren't they the cause of the problem, but that edit was (nearly exactly!) a year ago. I was too tired and in too much of a hurry to see clearly.) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mathglot" title="User:Mathglot">Mathglot</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mathglot" title="User talk:Mathglot">talk</a>) 17:41, 1 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mathglot|2019-08-01T17:41:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-08-01T09:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-01T17:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mathglot&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Mathglot|2019-08-01T17:41:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-08-01T09:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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-<div role="note" style="margin: 1em;" class="resolved"><span style="border: 1px solid #aaa; background-color: #f9fcf9; margin-right: 0.5em; padding: 0.5em;"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-08-02T05:45:00.000Z|The_notification_button"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/20px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/40px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Resolved:</span> <span style="font-size: 85%">Fixed in the last update of MediaWiki. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 05:45, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-08-02T05:45:00.000Z|The_notification_button"></span></span><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-08-02T05:45:00.000Z|The_notification_button&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-02T05:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></div>
+<div role="note" style="margin: 1em;" class="resolved"><span style="border: 1px solid #aaa; background-color: #f9fcf9; margin-right: 0.5em; padding: 0.5em;"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-08-02T05:45:00.000Z|The_notification_button"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/20px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/40px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Resolved:</span> <span style="font-size: 85%">Fixed in the last update of MediaWiki. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 05:45, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-08-02T05:45:00.000Z|The_notification_button"></span></span><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-08-02T05:45:00.000Z|The_notification_button&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-02T05:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></div>
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 <p>Hi, so I am using my mobile.
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@@ -1697,66 +1697,66 @@ Sorry should have said, monobook, Edge, Win10. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
 <li>I clicked on it, surprisingly, I didn't see the comment that was posted to my talk page, I saw old notifications.</li>
 <li>I refreshed the page and the notification button returned red. I clicked on it and the red button disappeared and I refreshed it appeared again.</li>
 <li>Cleared the cache it didn't help still red.</li></ol>
-<p>So can someone help me to fix this? Thanks.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SharabSalam" title="User talk:SharabSalam">talk</a>) 21:52, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z|The_notification_button&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:57:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:59:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-22T21:59:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-22T22:54:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-23T21:05:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Flyer22 Reborn|2019-07-24T16:31:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-25T14:53:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|JIP|2019-07-26T10:16:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SharabSalam&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z|The_notification_button"></span>
+<p>So can someone help me to fix this? Thanks.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SharabSalam" title="User talk:SharabSalam">talk</a>) 21:52, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z|The_notification_button&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:57:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:59:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-22T21:59:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-22T22:54:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-23T21:05:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Flyer22 Reborn|2019-07-24T16:31:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-25T14:53:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|JIP|2019-07-26T10:16:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SharabSalam&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z|The_notification_button"></span>
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-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:57:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z"></span>Something I haven't tried; which is to trigger the notification again. I will ping a <s>wrong</s> random editor and see. This usually triggers a notification saying: “the ping was not sent because the user doesn't exist”. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Agsbshsisbsidsb&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Agsbshsisbsidsb (page does not exist)">agsbshsisbsidsb</a>.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SharabSalam" title="User talk:SharabSalam">talk</a>) 21:57, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:57:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T21:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SharabSalam&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:57:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:59:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z"></span>I got a notification, I clicked, read it, refreshed, the notification button returned red so it didn't help.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SharabSalam" title="User talk:SharabSalam">talk</a>) 21:59, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:59:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T22:00:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:59:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T21:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SharabSalam&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:59:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T22:00:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:59:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a>:</span> if you go to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Notifications" title="Special:Notifications">Special:Notifications</a> is it there? Also, I have no idea who User:agsbshsisbsidsb is, will assume you just typed random characters for some reason? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 22:00, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T22:00:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:05:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T22:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:09:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T22:00:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T22:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T22:00:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:59:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:05:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T22:00:00.000Z"></span>I went there saw your ping. I returned here refreshed the page and the red button is still red.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SharabSalam" title="User talk:SharabSalam">talk</a>) 22:05, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:05:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T22:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T22:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SharabSalam&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:05:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T22:00:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:09:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T22:00:00.000Z"></span>Yes, it was random I tried to get a new notification and I got a new notification but the red button is not disappearing even after I saw the notification.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SharabSalam" title="User talk:SharabSalam">talk</a>) 22:09, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:09:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T22:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T22:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SharabSalam&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:09:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T22:00:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></li></ul>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-07-22T21:59:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z"></span>What does clicking on the blue circle on the new notification do? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 21:59, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-22T21:59:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:04:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T21:59:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T21:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-07-22T21:59:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:04:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T21:59:00.000Z"></span>As I said I am using the mobile version of Wikipedia. I tried that too. I changed to desktop version clicked on the red button and the blue button. The blue button shows me old notifications like "user thank you" or something like that. Both the blue and the red button shows old notifications.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SharabSalam" title="User talk:SharabSalam">talk</a>) 22:04, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:04:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T21:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-22T22:10:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:04:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T22:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SharabSalam&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:04:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T21:59:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-07-22T22:10:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:04:00.000Z"></span>No, I'm talking about the blue circle at the upper right of each notification. It toggles the read/unread status of the notification. If there's no blue circle and only empty circles then click on them a few times. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 22:10, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-22T22:10:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:17:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T22:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:28:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T22:10:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T22:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-07-22T22:10:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:04:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:17:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T22:10:00.000Z"></span>I had no idea about the blue circle. I had never clicked on it since I joined Wikipedia. I have lots of notifications that I didn't click on their blue circle but I haven't got an issue like this before. It's gonna take a while to make all the circles empty? Is that what I should do? Make the circles empty or blue? Thank you for this information about the blue circle. I had no idea about it.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SharabSalam" title="User talk:SharabSalam">talk</a>) 22:17, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:17:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T22:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T22:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SharabSalam&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:17:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T22:10:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:28:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T22:10:00.000Z"></span>Thanks <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a>, the problem was fixed. I made all the circles empty. I always wondered why I get the number "+99" all the time on the notification button when I get one notification LOL today I learned.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SharabSalam" title="User talk:SharabSalam">talk</a>) 22:28, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:28:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T22:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-22T22:30:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:28:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T22:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SharabSalam&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:28:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T22:10:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-07-22T22:30:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:28:00.000Z"></span>In the future, you can use "Mark all as read" (on mobile, the button with a check mark at the top). <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 22:30, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-22T22:30:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:44:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T22:30:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T22:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-07-22T22:30:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:28:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:44:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T22:30:00.000Z"></span>I did that in past I was hoping it will remove the "+99" number from the notification button but when I did that, only 20 notifications become read and I just didnt see them getting removed or changed hence I wasn't aware of the blue and empty circle thing. So I didn't repeat the process. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SharabSalam" title="User talk:SharabSalam">talk</a>) 22:44, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:44:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T22:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T22:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SharabSalam&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:44:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T22:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-07-22T22:54:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux">Xaosflux</a>:</span> SharabSalam is correct, the behaviour has changed. As you know, if you got an alert notification (or thanks notification), the counter appears on a red (or blue) background. If you click that number, it changes to grey and the list of notifications appears. Let's assume that you don't do anything with those, but click away; the list disappears. Now follow a link (any link). At this point, the change in behaviour becomes apparent: the old behaviour was that the counter remained grey until the next notification came in; the new behaviour is that the counter becomes red (or blue) implying that you have new unseen notifications. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 22:54, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-22T22:54:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:02:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-22T22:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-24T12:07:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-22T22:54:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T22:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-07-22T22:54:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:02:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-22T22:54:00.000Z"></span>Ah, I could reproduce the problem based on your explanation (and ping). This certainly seems like a bug. Has this been reported on Phab? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 23:02, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:02:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-22T22:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:05:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:02:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T23:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:02:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-22T22:54:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:05:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:02:00.000Z"></span>Is this happening in the mobile application, or the mobile web? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 23:05, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:05:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:33:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Dhtwiki|2019-07-22T23:49:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Dhtwiki|2019-07-22T23:53:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:05:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T23:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:05:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:02:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:33:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:05:00.000Z"></span>I confirmed it on the desktop site. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 23:33, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:33:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:51:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:33:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T23:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:33:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:05:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:51:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:33:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a>:</span> on desktop - not using .m. right? What skin are you using? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 23:51, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:51:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:54:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:57:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:51:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T23:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:51:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:33:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:54:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:51:00.000Z"></span>Vector. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 23:54, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:54:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T23:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:54:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:51:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:57:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:51:00.000Z"></span>Also reproducible on the mobile web. The notification icon changes from red to gray when I click on it but not mark the new notification as read and close the panel, but it becomes red again if I refresh the page. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 23:57, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:57:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T23:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:57:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Dhtwiki|2019-07-22T23:49:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:05:00.000Z"></span>I am seeing my blue "Notices" light on my desktop (Safari, iMac, OS 10.11) stay lit for a "Thank You" given 3 hours ago. My red "Alerts" light is off (i.e. gray); I received the last of those 5 days ago. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dhtwiki" title="User:Dhtwiki">Dhtwiki</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dhtwiki" title="User talk:Dhtwiki">talk</a>) 23:49, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Dhtwiki|2019-07-22T23:49:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T23:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Dhtwiki&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Dhtwiki|2019-07-22T23:49:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:05:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Dhtwiki|2019-07-22T23:53:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:05:00.000Z"></span>Now I'm getting the red light on when I refresh the page. It turns off when I click on it to see the alert, but then turns on again when I reload the page. I'm using standard, "vector" skin, IIRC; nothing fancy. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dhtwiki" title="User:Dhtwiki">Dhtwiki</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dhtwiki" title="User talk:Dhtwiki">talk</a>) 23:53, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Dhtwiki|2019-07-22T23:53:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:54:00.000Z|Dhtwiki|2019-07-22T23:53:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T23:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Dhtwiki&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Dhtwiki|2019-07-22T23:53:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:05:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:54:00.000Z|Dhtwiki|2019-07-22T23:53:00.000Z"></span>That is exactly what I'm experiencing, and I believe what Redrose64 was explaining as well. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 23:54, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:54:00.000Z|Dhtwiki|2019-07-22T23:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T01:01:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:54:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T23:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:54:00.000Z|Dhtwiki|2019-07-22T23:53:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T01:01:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:54:00.000Z"></span>That is also what I was explaining. I also noticed that now when I ping a random user who doesnt exist I don't get a notification saying something like "the ping was not sent because the user doesn't exist"--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SharabSalam" title="User talk:SharabSalam">talk</a>) 01:01, 23 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T01:01:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-23T01:08:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T01:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-23T01:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SharabSalam&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T01:01:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:54:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-07-23T01:08:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T01:01:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a>:</span> Is "Failed mention" checked at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-echo-echosubscriptions" title="Special:Preferences">Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-echo-echosubscriptions</a>? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 01:08, 23 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-23T01:08:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T01:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T01:14:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-23T01:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T01:16:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-23T01:08:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-23T01:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-07-23T01:08:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T01:01:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T01:14:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-23T01:08:00.000Z"></span>It is checked. I just looked at it. I haven't changed anything there and above I have mentioned <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Agsbshsisbsidsb&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Agsbshsisbsidsb (page does not exist)">agsbshsisbsidsb</a> and it worked but now it's not notifying me.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SharabSalam" title="User talk:SharabSalam">talk</a>) 01:14, 23 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:10,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T01:14:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-23T01:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-23T01:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SharabSalam&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T01:14:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-23T01:08:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T01:16:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-23T01:08:00.000Z"></span>Okay it's working! it's working!. The whole notification when I ping anyone was not working with me and now it's working for unknown reason.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SharabSalam" title="User talk:SharabSalam">talk</a>) 01:16, 23 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:10,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T01:16:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-23T01:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-23T11:39:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T01:16:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-23T01:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SharabSalam&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T01:16:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-23T01:08:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-07-23T11:39:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T01:16:00.000Z"></span>Just so people know, AFAIK <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a> here is saying that the notification for a failed mention is working for them now. The problem with the notifications as a whole (the grayed number turning red/blue again) still persists. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 11:39, 23 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:11,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-23T11:39:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T01:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-23T11:42:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-23T11:39:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-23T11:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-07-23T11:39:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T01:16:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-23T11:42:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-23T11:39:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a>:</span> please open a phab ticket with the details. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 11:42, 23 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:12,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-23T11:42:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-23T11:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-23T12:40:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-23T11:42:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-23T11:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-23T11:42:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-23T11:39:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-07-23T12:40:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-23T11:42:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux">Xaosflux</a>:</span> <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228744" class="extiw" title="phab:T228744">Done</a>, though I'm not totally sure if I did an adequate enough job explaining. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 12:40, 23 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:13,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-23T12:40:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-23T11:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-23T12:58:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-23T12:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T15:02:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-23T12:40:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-23T12:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-07-23T12:40:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-23T11:42:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-23T12:58:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-23T12:40:00.000Z"></span>Seems good enough to get it started, check in if there are questions. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 12:58, 23 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:14,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-23T12:58:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-23T12:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-23T12:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-23T12:58:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-23T12:40:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T15:02:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-23T12:40:00.000Z"></span>Could you recheck the photos that you added to explain the problem. The "expected" after clicking on the notification button <span style="background:yellow">and refreshing</span> is that the number disappear and the gray bell icon appears but what happens right now is that the notification appears again as if I haven't clicked on the notification button.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SharabSalam" title="User talk:SharabSalam">talk</a>) 15:02, 23 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:14,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T15:02:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-23T12:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-23T15:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SharabSalam&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T15:02:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-23T12:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><span class="outdent-template" style="display:block;margin-top:-0.5em;color:#AAA;;position:relative;left:-0.25em"><span style="display:inline-block; overflow:hidden;">┌</span><span style="display:inline-block; overflow:hidden; word-wrap:normal; width:16.9em;">────────────────────────────</span><span style="display:inline-block; overflow:hidden;">┘</span></span> <span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-07-24T12:07:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-22T22:54:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a>:</span> I'm certain at least on the desktop site opening and closing the alerts panel without marking all alerts as read would have made the background of the unread count gray but didn't make the count disappear entirely. I don't know about the mobile site, though. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 12:07, 24 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-24T12:07:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-22T22:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T12:31:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-24T12:07:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-24T12:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-07-24T12:07:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-22T22:54:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T12:31:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-24T12:07:00.000Z"></span>Nardog</a>, It is the same in desktop. When you click on the notification button with the number it changes to gray which is as usual and the normal behaviour the problem appears when you refresh the page, what is expected is that the bell icon appears like if there was no notification but what happens is that the notification appears again. The photos that you added suggest a different problem. The expected photos should not contain the number of notifications in gray but the bell icon.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SharabSalam" title="User talk:SharabSalam">talk</a>) 12:31, 24 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T12:31:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-24T12:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-24T12:41:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T12:31:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-24T12:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SharabSalam&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T12:31:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-24T12:07:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-07-24T12:41:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T12:31:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a>:</span> Then I may be misremembering. Add that as a comment on Phabricator. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 12:41, 24 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-24T12:41:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T12:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T12:49:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-24T12:41:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-24T12:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-07-24T12:41:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T12:31:00.000Z"></span>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:57:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z"></span>Something I haven't tried; which is to trigger the notification again. I will ping a <s>wrong</s> random editor and see. This usually triggers a notification saying: “the ping was not sent because the user doesn't exist”. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Agsbshsisbsidsb&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Agsbshsisbsidsb (page does not exist)">agsbshsisbsidsb</a>.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SharabSalam" title="User talk:SharabSalam">talk</a>) 21:57, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:57:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T21:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SharabSalam&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:57:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:59:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z"></span>I got a notification, I clicked, read it, refreshed, the notification button returned red so it didn't help.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SharabSalam" title="User talk:SharabSalam">talk</a>) 21:59, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:59:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T22:00:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:59:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T21:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SharabSalam&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:59:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T22:00:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:59:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a>:</span> if you go to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Notifications" title="Special:Notifications">Special:Notifications</a> is it there? Also, I have no idea who User:agsbshsisbsidsb is, will assume you just typed random characters for some reason? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 22:00, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T22:00:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:05:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T22:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:09:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T22:00:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T22:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T22:00:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:59:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:05:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T22:00:00.000Z"></span>I went there saw your ping. I returned here refreshed the page and the red button is still red.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SharabSalam" title="User talk:SharabSalam">talk</a>) 22:05, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:05:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T22:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T22:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SharabSalam&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:05:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T22:00:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:09:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T22:00:00.000Z"></span>Yes, it was random I tried to get a new notification and I got a new notification but the red button is not disappearing even after I saw the notification.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SharabSalam" title="User talk:SharabSalam">talk</a>) 22:09, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:09:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T22:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T22:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SharabSalam&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:09:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T22:00:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></li></ul>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-07-22T21:59:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z"></span>What does clicking on the blue circle on the new notification do? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 21:59, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-22T21:59:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:04:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T21:59:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T21:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-07-22T21:59:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:04:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T21:59:00.000Z"></span>As I said I am using the mobile version of Wikipedia. I tried that too. I changed to desktop version clicked on the red button and the blue button. The blue button shows me old notifications like "user thank you" or something like that. Both the blue and the red button shows old notifications.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SharabSalam" title="User talk:SharabSalam">talk</a>) 22:04, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:04:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T21:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-22T22:10:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:04:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T22:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SharabSalam&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:04:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T21:59:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-07-22T22:10:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:04:00.000Z"></span>No, I'm talking about the blue circle at the upper right of each notification. It toggles the read/unread status of the notification. If there's no blue circle and only empty circles then click on them a few times. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 22:10, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-22T22:10:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:17:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T22:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:28:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T22:10:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T22:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-07-22T22:10:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:04:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:17:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T22:10:00.000Z"></span>I had no idea about the blue circle. I had never clicked on it since I joined Wikipedia. I have lots of notifications that I didn't click on their blue circle but I haven't got an issue like this before. It's gonna take a while to make all the circles empty? Is that what I should do? Make the circles empty or blue? Thank you for this information about the blue circle. I had no idea about it.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SharabSalam" title="User talk:SharabSalam">talk</a>) 22:17, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:17:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T22:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T22:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SharabSalam&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:17:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T22:10:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:28:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T22:10:00.000Z"></span>Thanks <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a>, the problem was fixed. I made all the circles empty. I always wondered why I get the number "+99" all the time on the notification button when I get one notification LOL today I learned.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SharabSalam" title="User talk:SharabSalam">talk</a>) 22:28, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:28:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T22:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-22T22:30:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:28:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T22:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SharabSalam&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:28:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T22:10:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-07-22T22:30:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:28:00.000Z"></span>In the future, you can use "Mark all as read" (on mobile, the button with a check mark at the top). <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 22:30, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-22T22:30:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:44:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T22:30:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T22:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-07-22T22:30:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:28:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:44:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T22:30:00.000Z"></span>I did that in past I was hoping it will remove the "+99" number from the notification button but when I did that, only 20 notifications become read and I just didnt see them getting removed or changed hence I wasn't aware of the blue and empty circle thing. So I didn't repeat the process. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SharabSalam" title="User talk:SharabSalam">talk</a>) 22:44, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:44:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T22:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T22:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SharabSalam&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T22:44:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T22:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-07-22T22:54:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux">Xaosflux</a>:</span> SharabSalam is correct, the behaviour has changed. As you know, if you got an alert notification (or thanks notification), the counter appears on a red (or blue) background. If you click that number, it changes to grey and the list of notifications appears. Let's assume that you don't do anything with those, but click away; the list disappears. Now follow a link (any link). At this point, the change in behaviour becomes apparent: the old behaviour was that the counter remained grey until the next notification came in; the new behaviour is that the counter becomes red (or blue) implying that you have new unseen notifications. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 22:54, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-22T22:54:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:02:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-22T22:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-24T12:07:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-22T22:54:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T22:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-07-22T22:54:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:02:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-22T22:54:00.000Z"></span>Ah, I could reproduce the problem based on your explanation (and ping). This certainly seems like a bug. Has this been reported on Phab? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 23:02, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:02:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-22T22:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:05:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:02:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T23:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:02:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-22T22:54:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:05:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:02:00.000Z"></span>Is this happening in the mobile application, or the mobile web? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 23:05, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:05:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:33:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Dhtwiki|2019-07-22T23:49:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Dhtwiki|2019-07-22T23:53:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:05:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T23:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:05:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:02:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:33:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:05:00.000Z"></span>I confirmed it on the desktop site. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 23:33, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:33:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:51:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:33:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T23:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:33:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:05:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:51:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:33:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a>:</span> on desktop - not using .m. right? What skin are you using? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 23:51, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:51:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:54:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:57:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:51:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T23:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:51:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:33:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:54:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:51:00.000Z"></span>Vector. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 23:54, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:54:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T23:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:54:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:51:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:57:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:51:00.000Z"></span>Also reproducible on the mobile web. The notification icon changes from red to gray when I click on it but not mark the new notification as read and close the panel, but it becomes red again if I refresh the page. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 23:57, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:57:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T23:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:57:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Dhtwiki|2019-07-22T23:49:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:05:00.000Z"></span>I am seeing my blue "Notices" light on my desktop (Safari, iMac, OS 10.11) stay lit for a "Thank You" given 3 hours ago. My red "Alerts" light is off (i.e. gray); I received the last of those 5 days ago. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dhtwiki" title="User:Dhtwiki">Dhtwiki</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dhtwiki" title="User talk:Dhtwiki">talk</a>) 23:49, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Dhtwiki|2019-07-22T23:49:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T23:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Dhtwiki&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Dhtwiki|2019-07-22T23:49:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:05:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Dhtwiki|2019-07-22T23:53:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:05:00.000Z"></span>Now I'm getting the red light on when I refresh the page. It turns off when I click on it to see the alert, but then turns on again when I reload the page. I'm using standard, "vector" skin, IIRC; nothing fancy. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dhtwiki" title="User:Dhtwiki">Dhtwiki</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dhtwiki" title="User talk:Dhtwiki">talk</a>) 23:53, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Dhtwiki|2019-07-22T23:53:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:54:00.000Z|Dhtwiki|2019-07-22T23:53:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T23:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Dhtwiki&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Dhtwiki|2019-07-22T23:53:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-22T23:05:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:54:00.000Z|Dhtwiki|2019-07-22T23:53:00.000Z"></span>That is exactly what I'm experiencing, and I believe what Redrose64 was explaining as well. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 23:54, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:54:00.000Z|Dhtwiki|2019-07-22T23:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T01:01:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:54:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T23:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:54:00.000Z|Dhtwiki|2019-07-22T23:53:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T01:01:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:54:00.000Z"></span>That is also what I was explaining. I also noticed that now when I ping a random user who doesnt exist I don't get a notification saying something like "the ping was not sent because the user doesn't exist"--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SharabSalam" title="User talk:SharabSalam">talk</a>) 01:01, 23 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T01:01:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-23T01:08:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T01:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-23T01:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SharabSalam&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T01:01:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-22T23:54:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-07-23T01:08:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T01:01:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a>:</span> Is "Failed mention" checked at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-echo-echosubscriptions" title="Special:Preferences">Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-echo-echosubscriptions</a>? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 01:08, 23 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-23T01:08:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T01:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T01:14:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-23T01:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T01:16:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-23T01:08:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-23T01:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-07-23T01:08:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T01:01:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T01:14:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-23T01:08:00.000Z"></span>It is checked. I just looked at it. I haven't changed anything there and above I have mentioned <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Agsbshsisbsidsb&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Agsbshsisbsidsb (page does not exist)">agsbshsisbsidsb</a> and it worked but now it's not notifying me.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SharabSalam" title="User talk:SharabSalam">talk</a>) 01:14, 23 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:10,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T01:14:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-23T01:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-23T01:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SharabSalam&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T01:14:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-23T01:08:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T01:16:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-23T01:08:00.000Z"></span>Okay it's working! it's working!. The whole notification when I ping anyone was not working with me and now it's working for unknown reason.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SharabSalam" title="User talk:SharabSalam">talk</a>) 01:16, 23 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:10,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T01:16:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-23T01:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-23T11:39:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T01:16:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-23T01:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SharabSalam&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T01:16:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-23T01:08:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-07-23T11:39:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T01:16:00.000Z"></span>Just so people know, AFAIK <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a> here is saying that the notification for a failed mention is working for them now. The problem with the notifications as a whole (the grayed number turning red/blue again) still persists. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 11:39, 23 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:11,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-23T11:39:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T01:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-23T11:42:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-23T11:39:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-23T11:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-07-23T11:39:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T01:16:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-23T11:42:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-23T11:39:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a>:</span> please open a phab ticket with the details. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 11:42, 23 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:12,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-23T11:42:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-23T11:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-23T12:40:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-23T11:42:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-23T11:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-23T11:42:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-23T11:39:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-07-23T12:40:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-23T11:42:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux">Xaosflux</a>:</span> <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228744" class="extiw" title="phab:T228744">Done</a>, though I'm not totally sure if I did an adequate enough job explaining. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 12:40, 23 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:13,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-23T12:40:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-23T11:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-23T12:58:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-23T12:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T15:02:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-23T12:40:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-23T12:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-07-23T12:40:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-23T11:42:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-23T12:58:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-23T12:40:00.000Z"></span>Seems good enough to get it started, check in if there are questions. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 12:58, 23 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:14,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-23T12:58:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-23T12:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-23T12:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-23T12:58:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-23T12:40:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T15:02:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-23T12:40:00.000Z"></span>Could you recheck the photos that you added to explain the problem. The "expected" after clicking on the notification button <span style="background:yellow">and refreshing</span> is that the number disappear and the gray bell icon appears but what happens right now is that the notification appears again as if I haven't clicked on the notification button.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SharabSalam" title="User talk:SharabSalam">talk</a>) 15:02, 23 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:14,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T15:02:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-23T12:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-23T15:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SharabSalam&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-23T15:02:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-23T12:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><span class="outdent-template" style="display:block;margin-top:-0.5em;color:#AAA;;position:relative;left:-0.25em"><span style="display:inline-block; overflow:hidden;">┌</span><span style="display:inline-block; overflow:hidden; word-wrap:normal; width:16.9em;">────────────────────────────</span><span style="display:inline-block; overflow:hidden;">┘</span></span> <span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-07-24T12:07:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-22T22:54:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a>:</span> I'm certain at least on the desktop site opening and closing the alerts panel without marking all alerts as read would have made the background of the unread count gray but didn't make the count disappear entirely. I don't know about the mobile site, though. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 12:07, 24 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-24T12:07:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-22T22:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T12:31:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-24T12:07:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-24T12:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-07-24T12:07:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-07-22T22:54:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T12:31:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-24T12:07:00.000Z"></span>Nardog</a>, It is the same in desktop. When you click on the notification button with the number it changes to gray which is as usual and the normal behaviour the problem appears when you refresh the page, what is expected is that the bell icon appears like if there was no notification but what happens is that the notification appears again. The photos that you added suggest a different problem. The expected photos should not contain the number of notifications in gray but the bell icon.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SharabSalam" title="User talk:SharabSalam">talk</a>) 12:31, 24 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T12:31:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-24T12:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-24T12:41:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T12:31:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-24T12:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SharabSalam&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T12:31:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-24T12:07:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-07-24T12:41:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T12:31:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a>:</span> Then I may be misremembering. Add that as a comment on Phabricator. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 12:41, 24 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-24T12:41:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T12:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T12:49:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-24T12:41:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-24T12:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-07-24T12:41:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T12:31:00.000Z"></span>
 <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T12:49:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-24T12:41:00.000Z"></span>By the way, I am unable to enter or see that site (<a class="external autonumber" href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/">[30]</a>) through my IP address I get this message all the time</dd>
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-<dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Yesterday I was in another place where there is a WiFi network and I was able to see what was in the site. In my home I am unable to enter it.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SharabSalam" title="User talk:SharabSalam">talk</a>) 12:49, 24 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T12:49:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-24T12:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-24T12:58:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T12:49:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-24T12:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SharabSalam&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T12:49:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-24T12:41:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-07-24T12:58:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T12:49:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a>:</span> Ok, I have quoted your comments on Phabricator. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 12:58, 24 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-24T12:58:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T12:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-24T12:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-07-24T12:58:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T12:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-07-23T21:05:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z"></span>To clarify, I was using desktop, Opera, MonoBook. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 21:05, 23 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-23T21:05:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-23T21:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-07-23T21:05:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Flyer22 Reborn|2019-07-24T16:31:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z"></span>The notifications/buttons are remaining red and blue for me as well. They go away for a moment when clicked on and then come back. Marking all as "read" doesn't solve the issue. I'm using a laptop. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Flyer22_Reborn" title="User:Flyer22 Reborn">Flyer22 Reborn</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Flyer22_Reborn" title="User talk:Flyer22 Reborn">talk</a>) 16:31, 24 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Flyer22 Reborn|2019-07-24T16:31:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T18:38:00.000Z|Flyer22 Reborn|2019-07-24T16:31:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-24T16:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Flyer22 Reborn&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Flyer22 Reborn|2019-07-24T16:31:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Flyer22_Reborn" title="User:Flyer22 Reborn"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T18:38:00.000Z|Flyer22 Reborn|2019-07-24T16:31:00.000Z"></span>Flyer22 Reborn</a>, from my experience, I clicked on "mark all as read" and then I closed the notification window and clicked on it again and marked all as read again.. I repeated this until the number in the notification button became zero then the notification disappeared.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SharabSalam" title="User talk:SharabSalam">talk</a>) 18:38, 24 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T18:38:00.000Z|Flyer22 Reborn|2019-07-24T16:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Flyer22 Reborn|2019-07-24T21:17:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T18:38:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-24T18:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SharabSalam&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T18:38:00.000Z|Flyer22 Reborn|2019-07-24T16:31:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Flyer22 Reborn|2019-07-24T21:17:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T18:38:00.000Z"></span>I shouldn't have to do all that. This needs to be fixed. Maybe <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> can help. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Flyer22_Reborn" title="User:Flyer22 Reborn">Flyer22 Reborn</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Flyer22_Reborn" title="User talk:Flyer22 Reborn">talk</a>) 21:17, 24 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Flyer22 Reborn|2019-07-24T21:17:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T18:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Johnuniq|2019-07-25T00:55:00.000Z|Flyer22 Reborn|2019-07-24T21:17:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-24T21:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Flyer22 Reborn&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Flyer22 Reborn|2019-07-24T21:17:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T18:38:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Johnuniq|2019-07-25T00:55:00.000Z|Flyer22 Reborn|2019-07-24T21:17:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Flyer22_Reborn" title="User:Flyer22 Reborn">Flyer22 Reborn</a>: Sorry, that's not my area. I usually work with a desktop browser with scripting disabled—I much prefer Wikipedia that way (except when I need to run some JavaScript). I find notifications to be a PITA with scripting enabled but have no idea whether more experience with that would help. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq" title="User talk:Johnuniq">talk</a>) 00:55, 25 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Johnuniq|2019-07-25T00:55:00.000Z|Flyer22 Reborn|2019-07-24T21:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-25T00:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Johnuniq&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Johnuniq|2019-07-25T00:55:00.000Z|Flyer22 Reborn|2019-07-24T21:17:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-25T14:53:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z"></span>Me too</b> - Having same issue of red notification alert not going away. Desktop. Chrome. Vector. Thanks to all for their hard work! <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cyphoidbomb" title="User:Cyphoidbomb">Cyphoidbomb</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cyphoidbomb" title="User talk:Cyphoidbomb">talk</a>) 14:53, 25 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-25T14:53:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-25T14:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Cyphoidbomb&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-25T14:53:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JIP|2019-07-26T10:16:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z"></span>Me three</b> - Same problem here. The alerts and notices buttons stay "active" constantly. Clicking on them clears the "active" status but it comes back next time I go to any other page. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JIP" title="User:JIP"><span style="color: #CC0000;">J</span><span style="color: #00CC00;">I</span><span style="color: #0000CC;">P</span></a> | <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JIP" title="User talk:JIP">Talk</a> 10:16, 26 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JIP|2019-07-26T10:16:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-26T10:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JIP&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JIP|2019-07-26T10:16:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Yesterday I was in another place where there is a WiFi network and I was able to see what was in the site. In my home I am unable to enter it.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SharabSalam" title="User talk:SharabSalam">talk</a>) 12:49, 24 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T12:49:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-24T12:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-24T12:58:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T12:49:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-24T12:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SharabSalam&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T12:49:00.000Z|Nardog|2019-07-24T12:41:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nardog|2019-07-24T12:58:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T12:49:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a>:</span> Ok, I have quoted your comments on Phabricator. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) 12:58, 24 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nardog|2019-07-24T12:58:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T12:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-24T12:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nardog&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nardog|2019-07-24T12:58:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T12:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-07-23T21:05:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z"></span>To clarify, I was using desktop, Opera, MonoBook. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 21:05, 23 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-07-23T21:05:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-23T21:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-07-23T21:05:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Flyer22 Reborn|2019-07-24T16:31:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z"></span>The notifications/buttons are remaining red and blue for me as well. They go away for a moment when clicked on and then come back. Marking all as "read" doesn't solve the issue. I'm using a laptop. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Flyer22_Reborn" title="User:Flyer22 Reborn">Flyer22 Reborn</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Flyer22_Reborn" title="User talk:Flyer22 Reborn">talk</a>) 16:31, 24 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Flyer22 Reborn|2019-07-24T16:31:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T18:38:00.000Z|Flyer22 Reborn|2019-07-24T16:31:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-24T16:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Flyer22 Reborn&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Flyer22 Reborn|2019-07-24T16:31:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Flyer22_Reborn" title="User:Flyer22 Reborn"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T18:38:00.000Z|Flyer22 Reborn|2019-07-24T16:31:00.000Z"></span>Flyer22 Reborn</a>, from my experience, I clicked on "mark all as read" and then I closed the notification window and clicked on it again and marked all as read again.. I repeated this until the number in the notification button became zero then the notification disappeared.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SharabSalam" title="User talk:SharabSalam">talk</a>) 18:38, 24 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T18:38:00.000Z|Flyer22 Reborn|2019-07-24T16:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Flyer22 Reborn|2019-07-24T21:17:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T18:38:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-24T18:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SharabSalam&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T18:38:00.000Z|Flyer22 Reborn|2019-07-24T16:31:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Flyer22 Reborn|2019-07-24T21:17:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T18:38:00.000Z"></span>I shouldn't have to do all that. This needs to be fixed. Maybe <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> can help. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Flyer22_Reborn" title="User:Flyer22 Reborn">Flyer22 Reborn</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Flyer22_Reborn" title="User talk:Flyer22 Reborn">talk</a>) 21:17, 24 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Flyer22 Reborn|2019-07-24T21:17:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T18:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Johnuniq|2019-07-25T00:55:00.000Z|Flyer22 Reborn|2019-07-24T21:17:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-24T21:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Flyer22 Reborn&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Flyer22 Reborn|2019-07-24T21:17:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-24T18:38:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Johnuniq|2019-07-25T00:55:00.000Z|Flyer22 Reborn|2019-07-24T21:17:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Flyer22_Reborn" title="User:Flyer22 Reborn">Flyer22 Reborn</a>: Sorry, that's not my area. I usually work with a desktop browser with scripting disabled—I much prefer Wikipedia that way (except when I need to run some JavaScript). I find notifications to be a PITA with scripting enabled but have no idea whether more experience with that would help. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq" title="User talk:Johnuniq">talk</a>) 00:55, 25 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Johnuniq|2019-07-25T00:55:00.000Z|Flyer22 Reborn|2019-07-24T21:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-25T00:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Johnuniq&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Johnuniq|2019-07-25T00:55:00.000Z|Flyer22 Reborn|2019-07-24T21:17:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-25T14:53:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z"></span>Me too</b> - Having same issue of red notification alert not going away. Desktop. Chrome. Vector. Thanks to all for their hard work! <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cyphoidbomb" title="User:Cyphoidbomb">Cyphoidbomb</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cyphoidbomb" title="User talk:Cyphoidbomb">talk</a>) 14:53, 25 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-25T14:53:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-25T14:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Cyphoidbomb&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Cyphoidbomb|2019-07-25T14:53:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JIP|2019-07-26T10:16:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z"></span>Me three</b> - Same problem here. The alerts and notices buttons stay "active" constantly. Clicking on them clears the "active" status but it comes back next time I go to any other page. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JIP" title="User:JIP"><span style="color: #CC0000;">J</span><span style="color: #00CC00;">I</span><span style="color: #0000CC;">P</span></a> | <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JIP" title="User talk:JIP">Talk</a> 10:16, 26 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JIP|2019-07-26T10:16:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-26T10:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JIP&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JIP|2019-07-26T10:16:00.000Z|SharabSalam|2019-07-22T21:52:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Strikethrough_blocked_editors_and_SPI" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Strikethrough_blocked_editors_and_SPI|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z|Strikethrough_blocked_editors_and_SPI&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Strikethrough_blocked_editors_and_SPI|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z"></span>Strikethrough blocked editors and SPI<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Strikethrough_blocked_editors_and_SPI|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z|Strikethrough_blocked_editors_and_SPI"></span>Hi all <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bbb23" title="User:Bbb23">Bbb23</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vanjagenije" title="User:Vanjagenije">Vanjagenije</a> and myself are somewhat frustrated because the strikethrough blocked editors gadget/script is apparently not working with external links to user pages. At SPI this isn't great because {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Checkuser" title="Template:Checkuser">checkuser</a>}} uses external links to avoid pinging the users in question. Is there a solution to his? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TonyBallioni" title="User:TonyBallioni">TonyBallioni</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TonyBallioni" title="User talk:TonyBallioni">talk</a>) 20:05, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z|Strikethrough_blocked_editors_and_SPI&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Bbb23|2019-08-02T20:08:00.000Z|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:09:00.000Z|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-08-02T20:51:00.000Z|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Writ Keeper|2019-08-03T05:11:00.000Z|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;TonyBallioni&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z|Strikethrough_blocked_editors_and_SPI"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z|Strikethrough_blocked_editors_and_SPI"></span>Hi all <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bbb23" title="User:Bbb23">Bbb23</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vanjagenije" title="User:Vanjagenije">Vanjagenije</a> and myself are somewhat frustrated because the strikethrough blocked editors gadget/script is apparently not working with external links to user pages. At SPI this isn't great because {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Checkuser" title="Template:Checkuser">checkuser</a>}} uses external links to avoid pinging the users in question. Is there a solution to his? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TonyBallioni" title="User:TonyBallioni">TonyBallioni</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TonyBallioni" title="User talk:TonyBallioni">talk</a>) 20:05, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z|Strikethrough_blocked_editors_and_SPI&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Bbb23|2019-08-02T20:08:00.000Z|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:09:00.000Z|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-08-02T20:51:00.000Z|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Writ Keeper|2019-08-03T05:11:00.000Z|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;TonyBallioni&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z|Strikethrough_blocked_editors_and_SPI"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bbb23|2019-08-02T20:08:00.000Z|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z"></span>For additional background, please see <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Sockpuppet_investigations/Archives/Archive22#Markblocked" title="Wikipedia talk:Sockpuppet investigations/Archives/Archive22">Wikipedia talk:Sockpuppet investigations/Archives/Archive22#Markblocked</a>. Also, it should be noted that the links to the master and to the list of suspected puppets do not correctly show as red if no userpage exists.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bbb23" title="User:Bbb23">Bbb23</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bbb23" title="User talk:Bbb23">talk</a>) 20:08, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bbb23|2019-08-02T20:08:00.000Z|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-02T20:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bbb23&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bbb23|2019-08-02T20:08:00.000Z|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:09:00.000Z|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TonyBallioni" title="User:TonyBallioni">TonyBallioni</a>:</span> use {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Noping" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Noping">noping</a>}} instead? If the only reason is to avoid "pinging", if you also want to avoid "what links here" that won't work though. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 20:09, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:09:00.000Z|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:10:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:09:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-02T20:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:09:00.000Z|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:10:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:09:00.000Z"></span>Uhh, never mind - that also uses external links... — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 20:10, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:10:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:14:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:10:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-02T20:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:10:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:09:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="c|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:14:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:10:00.000Z"></span>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Edit_conflict" title="Help:Edit conflict">edit conflict</a>)</small>Yeah, the problem is that anything using external links is borked now, and {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Checkuser" title="Template:Checkuser">checkuser</a>}} also has all the quick links that we need during the SPI process. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TonyBallioni" title="User:TonyBallioni">TonyBallioni</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TonyBallioni" title="User talk:TonyBallioni">talk</a>) 20:14, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:14:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:23:00.000Z|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:14:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-02T20:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;TonyBallioni&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:14:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:10:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:23:00.000Z|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:14:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TonyBallioni" title="User:TonyBallioni">TonyBallioni</a>:</span> Perhaps you could link to something else like <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/TonyBallioni" title="Special:Contributions/TonyBallioni">TonyBallioni</a> - and then update the script to also operate on that? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 20:23, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:23:00.000Z|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:24:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:23:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-02T20:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:23:00.000Z|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:14:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:24:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:23:00.000Z"></span>Navigation popups are able to operate on that for example. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 20:24, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:24:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-02T20:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:24:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-08-02T20:51:00.000Z|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z"></span>What is the precise bug? As far as I see, <b>iff </b> the user-pages are red-links, they are displayed in blue and not stricken <i>but</i> the t/p-and-contribution links are stricken, as usual. (Bravanello over <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Bravanello" title="Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Bravanello">this SPI</a>.) Otherwise, (i.e. if the user-page exists), all the three links are indeed stricken. (MDPMHG over <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Shiwam_Kumar_Sriwastaw" title="Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Shiwam Kumar Sriwastaw">this SPI</a>.) Am I correct? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Winged_Blades_of_Godric" title="User:Winged Blades of Godric"><span style="color: red">∯</span><span style="font-family:Verdana"><b style="color:#070">WBG</b></span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Winged_Blades_of_Godric" title="User talk:Winged Blades of Godric"><sup><span style="color:#00F">converse</span></sup></a> 20:51, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-08-02T20:51:00.000Z|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Zzuuzz|2019-08-02T21:31:00.000Z|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-08-02T20:51:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-02T20:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Winged Blades of Godric&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-08-02T20:51:00.000Z|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Zzuuzz|2019-08-02T21:31:00.000Z|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-08-02T20:51:00.000Z"></span>I don't really agree about MDPMHG - it is not stricken in the first instance, which uses the noping like the usual CU templates, but it is later stricken when a different template is used. Try AIV, which basically uses the same noping mechanism. <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism&amp;oldid=908969492">this</a> is a blue userpage which isn't stricken. <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism&amp;oldid=909019648">This</a> is a non-existent user page which is blue and also not stricken. The striking does work for IPs at AIV (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism&amp;oldid=908998734">eg</a>) which have red userpages, but not IP contributions listed at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:OPD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OPD">WP:OPD</a> which are now not stricken. Previously, I think I'm right in saying, all these links were stricken. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Zzuuzz" title="User:Zzuuzz">zzuuzz</a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Zzuuzz" title="User talk:Zzuuzz">(talk)</a></sup> 21:31, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Zzuuzz|2019-08-02T21:31:00.000Z|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-08-02T20:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-02T21:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Zzuuzz&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Zzuuzz|2019-08-02T21:31:00.000Z|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-08-02T20:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Writ Keeper|2019-08-03T05:11:00.000Z|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z"></span>Just, FYI: I've replied with a (hopefully) fixed script at <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Sockpuppet_investigations&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=909112161">the thread on WT:SPI</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Writ_Keeper" title="User:Writ Keeper">Writ Keeper</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Writ_Keeper" title="User talk:Writ Keeper">⚇</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Writ_Keeper" title="Special:Contributions/Writ Keeper">♔</a> 05:11, 3 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Writ Keeper|2019-08-03T05:11:00.000Z|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-03T05:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Writ Keeper&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Writ Keeper|2019-08-03T05:11:00.000Z|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bbb23|2019-08-02T20:08:00.000Z|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z"></span>For additional background, please see <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Sockpuppet_investigations/Archives/Archive22#Markblocked" title="Wikipedia talk:Sockpuppet investigations/Archives/Archive22">Wikipedia talk:Sockpuppet investigations/Archives/Archive22#Markblocked</a>. Also, it should be noted that the links to the master and to the list of suspected puppets do not correctly show as red if no userpage exists.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bbb23" title="User:Bbb23">Bbb23</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bbb23" title="User talk:Bbb23">talk</a>) 20:08, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bbb23|2019-08-02T20:08:00.000Z|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-02T20:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bbb23&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bbb23|2019-08-02T20:08:00.000Z|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:09:00.000Z|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TonyBallioni" title="User:TonyBallioni">TonyBallioni</a>:</span> use {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Noping" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Noping">noping</a>}} instead? If the only reason is to avoid "pinging", if you also want to avoid "what links here" that won't work though. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 20:09, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:09:00.000Z|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:10:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:09:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-02T20:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:09:00.000Z|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:10:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:09:00.000Z"></span>Uhh, never mind - that also uses external links... — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 20:10, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:10:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:14:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:10:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-02T20:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:10:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:09:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="c|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:14:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:10:00.000Z"></span>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Edit_conflict" title="Help:Edit conflict">edit conflict</a>)</small>Yeah, the problem is that anything using external links is borked now, and {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Checkuser" title="Template:Checkuser">checkuser</a>}} also has all the quick links that we need during the SPI process. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TonyBallioni" title="User:TonyBallioni">TonyBallioni</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TonyBallioni" title="User talk:TonyBallioni">talk</a>) 20:14, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:14:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:23:00.000Z|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:14:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-02T20:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;TonyBallioni&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:14:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:10:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:23:00.000Z|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:14:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TonyBallioni" title="User:TonyBallioni">TonyBallioni</a>:</span> Perhaps you could link to something else like <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/TonyBallioni" title="Special:Contributions/TonyBallioni">TonyBallioni</a> - and then update the script to also operate on that? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 20:23, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:23:00.000Z|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:24:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:23:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-02T20:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:23:00.000Z|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:14:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:24:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:23:00.000Z"></span>Navigation popups are able to operate on that for example. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 20:24, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:24:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-02T20:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:24:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T20:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-08-02T20:51:00.000Z|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z"></span>What is the precise bug? As far as I see, <b>iff </b> the user-pages are red-links, they are displayed in blue and not stricken <i>but</i> the t/p-and-contribution links are stricken, as usual. (Bravanello over <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Bravanello" title="Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Bravanello">this SPI</a>.) Otherwise, (i.e. if the user-page exists), all the three links are indeed stricken. (MDPMHG over <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Shiwam_Kumar_Sriwastaw" title="Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Shiwam Kumar Sriwastaw">this SPI</a>.) Am I correct? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Winged_Blades_of_Godric" title="User:Winged Blades of Godric"><span style="color: red">∯</span><span style="font-family:Verdana"><b style="color:#070">WBG</b></span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Winged_Blades_of_Godric" title="User talk:Winged Blades of Godric"><sup><span style="color:#00F">converse</span></sup></a> 20:51, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-08-02T20:51:00.000Z|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Zzuuzz|2019-08-02T21:31:00.000Z|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-08-02T20:51:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-02T20:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Winged Blades of Godric&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-08-02T20:51:00.000Z|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Zzuuzz|2019-08-02T21:31:00.000Z|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-08-02T20:51:00.000Z"></span>I don't really agree about MDPMHG - it is not stricken in the first instance, which uses the noping like the usual CU templates, but it is later stricken when a different template is used. Try AIV, which basically uses the same noping mechanism. <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism&amp;oldid=908969492">this</a> is a blue userpage which isn't stricken. <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism&amp;oldid=909019648">This</a> is a non-existent user page which is blue and also not stricken. The striking does work for IPs at AIV (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism&amp;oldid=908998734">eg</a>) which have red userpages, but not IP contributions listed at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:OPD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OPD">WP:OPD</a> which are now not stricken. Previously, I think I'm right in saying, all these links were stricken. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Zzuuzz" title="User:Zzuuzz">zzuuzz</a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Zzuuzz" title="User talk:Zzuuzz">(talk)</a></sup> 21:31, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Zzuuzz|2019-08-02T21:31:00.000Z|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-08-02T20:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-02T21:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Zzuuzz&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Zzuuzz|2019-08-02T21:31:00.000Z|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-08-02T20:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Writ Keeper|2019-08-03T05:11:00.000Z|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z"></span>Just, FYI: I've replied with a (hopefully) fixed script at <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Sockpuppet_investigations&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=909112161">the thread on WT:SPI</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Writ_Keeper" title="User:Writ Keeper">Writ Keeper</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Writ_Keeper" title="User talk:Writ Keeper">⚇</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Writ_Keeper" title="Special:Contributions/Writ Keeper">♔</a> 05:11, 3 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Writ Keeper|2019-08-03T05:11:00.000Z|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-03T05:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Writ Keeper&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Writ Keeper|2019-08-03T05:11:00.000Z|TonyBallioni|2019-08-02T20:05:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
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 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-21T18:00:00.000Z|technical_request"></span>Anachronist suggested me to try asking for this request here
 </p><p>The ip range 151.48.0.0/17 was globally blocked by a steward because a user from this ip range used it to create several fake accounts and spam messages accross wikipedia
@@ -1766,62 +1766,62 @@ Sorry should have said, monobook, Edge, Win10. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
 </p><p>This block began on 19:38, 13 June 2019'
 </p><p>I would like a sysop or someone else to fix this error please
 </p><p>Anyway if the cause of the block was an abuser who created too many accounts to spam messages i wonder why it was not chosen to keep the creation of accounts blocked and let edits from normal ip addresses unblocked but exactly the opposite
-</p><p>Semplicemente Agghiacciante  <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Semplicemente_Agghiacciante&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Semplicemente Agghiacciante (page does not exist)">Semplicemente Agghiacciante</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Semplicemente_Agghiacciante#top" title="User talk:Semplicemente Agghiacciante">talk</a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Semplicemente_Agghiacciante" title="Special:Contributions/Semplicemente Agghiacciante">contribs</a>) 18:00, 21 July 2019 (UTC)</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-21T18:00:00.000Z|technical_request&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Peter James|2019-07-25T19:26:00.000Z|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-21T18:00:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-21T18:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Semplicemente Agghiacciante&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-21T18:00:00.000Z|technical_request"></span> 
+</p><p>Semplicemente Agghiacciante  <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Semplicemente_Agghiacciante&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Semplicemente Agghiacciante (page does not exist)">Semplicemente Agghiacciante</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Semplicemente_Agghiacciante#top" title="User talk:Semplicemente Agghiacciante">talk</a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Semplicemente_Agghiacciante" title="Special:Contributions/Semplicemente Agghiacciante">contribs</a>) 18:00, 21 July 2019 (UTC)</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-21T18:00:00.000Z|technical_request&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Peter James|2019-07-25T19:26:00.000Z|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-21T18:00:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-21T18:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Semplicemente Agghiacciante&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-21T18:00:00.000Z|technical_request"></span> 
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-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Peter James|2019-07-25T19:26:00.000Z|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-21T18:00:00.000Z"></span>The range was not unblocked locally, it was blocked here with settings that would allow account creation. The global block still prevents account creation; it would have to be lifted or modified globally, or locally via <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:GlobalBlockWhitelist" title="Special:GlobalBlockWhitelist">Special:GlobalBlockWhitelist</a>, which can be used by any administrator. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Peter_James" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Peter James">Peter James</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Peter_James" title="User talk:Peter James">talk</a>) 19:26, 25 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Peter James|2019-07-25T19:26:00.000Z|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-21T18:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-25T19:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Peter James&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Peter James|2019-07-25T19:26:00.000Z|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-21T18:00:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Peter James|2019-07-25T19:26:00.000Z|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-21T18:00:00.000Z"></span>The range was not unblocked locally, it was blocked here with settings that would allow account creation. The global block still prevents account creation; it would have to be lifted or modified globally, or locally via <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:GlobalBlockWhitelist" title="Special:GlobalBlockWhitelist">Special:GlobalBlockWhitelist</a>, which can be used by any administrator. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Peter_James" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Peter James">Peter James</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Peter_James" title="User talk:Peter James">talk</a>) 19:26, 25 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Peter James|2019-07-25T19:26:00.000Z|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-21T18:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-25T19:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Peter James&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Peter James|2019-07-25T19:26:00.000Z|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-21T18:00:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-26T18:01:00.000Z|technical_request"></span>I said that he possibility to create accounts was unblocked locally
 </p><p>Do you suggest me to ask for it via 'Special:GlobalBlockWhitelist' ?
-</p><p>Semplicemente Agghiacciante <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Semplicemente_Agghiacciante&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Semplicemente Agghiacciante (page does not exist)">Semplicemente Agghiacciante</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Semplicemente_Agghiacciante#top" title="User talk:Semplicemente Agghiacciante">talk</a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Semplicemente_Agghiacciante" title="Special:Contributions/Semplicemente Agghiacciante">contribs</a>) 18:01, 26 July 2019 (UTC)</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-26T18:01:00.000Z|technical_request&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-26T18:12:00.000Z|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-26T18:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-26T18:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Semplicemente Agghiacciante&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-26T18:01:00.000Z|technical_request"></span>
+</p><p>Semplicemente Agghiacciante <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Semplicemente_Agghiacciante&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Semplicemente Agghiacciante (page does not exist)">Semplicemente Agghiacciante</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Semplicemente_Agghiacciante#top" title="User talk:Semplicemente Agghiacciante">talk</a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Semplicemente_Agghiacciante" title="Special:Contributions/Semplicemente Agghiacciante">contribs</a>) 18:01, 26 July 2019 (UTC)</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-26T18:01:00.000Z|technical_request&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-26T18:12:00.000Z|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-26T18:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-26T18:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Semplicemente Agghiacciante&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-26T18:01:00.000Z|technical_request"></span>
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-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-26T18:12:00.000Z|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-26T18:01:00.000Z"></span>This isn't a technical issue.  The range was blocked here, then it was additionally blocked globally with a wider scope - everything is working properly.  You can ask over at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AN">WP:AN</a> if you think we should put in an override to the global block for some reason. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 18:12, 26 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-26T18:12:00.000Z|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-26T18:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-26T18:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-26T18:12:00.000Z|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-26T18:01:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-26T18:12:00.000Z|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-26T18:01:00.000Z"></span>This isn't a technical issue.  The range was blocked here, then it was additionally blocked globally with a wider scope - everything is working properly.  You can ask over at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AN">WP:AN</a> if you think we should put in an override to the global block for some reason. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 18:12, 26 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-26T18:12:00.000Z|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-26T18:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-26T18:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-26T18:12:00.000Z|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-26T18:01:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-27T08:59:00.000Z|technical_request"></span>Actually it was blocked globally first (<a class="external free" href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:151.48.0.0/17">https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:151.48.0.0/17</a>) and then its local block settings were changed by Anachronist
 </p><p>But it is true that for some reason it was reblocked globally with the same settings by another steward after its local unblocking and perhaps this is the cause of the glitch
 </p><p>I will try asking where you said anyway
-</p><p>Semplicemente Agghiacciante <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Semplicemente_Agghiacciante&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Semplicemente Agghiacciante (page does not exist)">Semplicemente Agghiacciante</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Semplicemente_Agghiacciante#top" title="User talk:Semplicemente Agghiacciante">talk</a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Semplicemente_Agghiacciante" title="Special:Contributions/Semplicemente Agghiacciante">contribs</a>) 08:59, 27 July 2019 (UTC)</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-27T08:59:00.000Z|technical_request&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T15:03:00.000Z|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-27T08:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Mathglot|2019-07-27T21:27:00.000Z|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-27T08:59:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-27T08:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Semplicemente Agghiacciante&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-27T08:59:00.000Z|technical_request"></span>
+</p><p>Semplicemente Agghiacciante <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Semplicemente_Agghiacciante&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Semplicemente Agghiacciante (page does not exist)">Semplicemente Agghiacciante</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Semplicemente_Agghiacciante#top" title="User talk:Semplicemente Agghiacciante">talk</a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Semplicemente_Agghiacciante" title="Special:Contributions/Semplicemente Agghiacciante">contribs</a>) 08:59, 27 July 2019 (UTC)</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-27T08:59:00.000Z|technical_request&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T15:03:00.000Z|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-27T08:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Mathglot|2019-07-27T21:27:00.000Z|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-27T08:59:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-27T08:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Semplicemente Agghiacciante&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-27T08:59:00.000Z|technical_request"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T15:03:00.000Z|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-27T08:59:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Semplicemente_Agghiacciante&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Semplicemente Agghiacciante (page does not exist)">Semplicemente Agghiacciante</a>:</span> Yes sorry, had my dates backwards! So basically the additional local block did nothing except for ensure that range is blocked here even if the global block were to be removed.  The "local settings" were not changed, an overlapping additional block was added.  You could ask Anachronist to override the global block if they want to. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 15:03, 27 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T15:03:00.000Z|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-27T08:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-27T15:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T15:03:00.000Z|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-27T08:59:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Mathglot|2019-07-27T21:27:00.000Z|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-27T08:59:00.000Z"></span>Hi, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Semplicemente_Agghiacciante&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Semplicemente Agghiacciante (page does not exist)">Semplicemente Agghiacciante</a>, I have left you <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Semplicemente_Agghiacciante#Signing_your_posts_on_Talk_pages" title="User talk:Semplicemente Agghiacciante">this message</a> on your talk page about how to sign your posts.  Or see <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:4TILDES" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:4TILDES">WP:4TILDES</a>. Thanks, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mathglot" title="User:Mathglot">Mathglot</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mathglot" title="User talk:Mathglot">talk</a>) 21:27, 27 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mathglot|2019-07-27T21:27:00.000Z|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-27T08:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-27T21:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mathglot&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Mathglot|2019-07-27T21:27:00.000Z|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-27T08:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T15:03:00.000Z|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-27T08:59:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Semplicemente_Agghiacciante&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Semplicemente Agghiacciante (page does not exist)">Semplicemente Agghiacciante</a>:</span> Yes sorry, had my dates backwards! So basically the additional local block did nothing except for ensure that range is blocked here even if the global block were to be removed.  The "local settings" were not changed, an overlapping additional block was added.  You could ask Anachronist to override the global block if they want to. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 15:03, 27 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T15:03:00.000Z|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-27T08:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-27T15:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-27T15:03:00.000Z|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-27T08:59:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Mathglot|2019-07-27T21:27:00.000Z|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-27T08:59:00.000Z"></span>Hi, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Semplicemente_Agghiacciante&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Semplicemente Agghiacciante (page does not exist)">Semplicemente Agghiacciante</a>, I have left you <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Semplicemente_Agghiacciante#Signing_your_posts_on_Talk_pages" title="User talk:Semplicemente Agghiacciante">this message</a> on your talk page about how to sign your posts.  Or see <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:4TILDES" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:4TILDES">WP:4TILDES</a>. Thanks, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mathglot" title="User:Mathglot">Mathglot</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mathglot" title="User talk:Mathglot">talk</a>) 21:27, 27 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mathglot|2019-07-27T21:27:00.000Z|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-27T08:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-27T21:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mathglot&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Mathglot|2019-07-27T21:27:00.000Z|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-07-27T08:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-08-01T18:09:00.000Z|technical_request"></span>Anachronist tried overriding the global block by restoring his local settings but creating an account from this ip range is still impossible
 </p><p>Who can have a look at this sort of bug in order to fix it ?
 </p><p>In it.wikipedia.org when an italian ip range is globaly blocked it is often locally unblocked and there are no such problems
 </p><p>This thing is weird !
-</p><p>Semplicmente Agghiacciante <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Semplicemente_Agghiacciante&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Semplicemente Agghiacciante (page does not exist)">Semplicemente Agghiacciante</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Semplicemente_Agghiacciante#top" title="User talk:Semplicemente Agghiacciante">talk</a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Semplicemente_Agghiacciante" title="Special:Contributions/Semplicemente Agghiacciante">contribs</a>) 18:09, 1 August 2019 (UTC)</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-08-01T18:09:00.000Z|technical_request&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-01T18:11:00.000Z|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-08-01T18:09:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-01T18:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Semplicemente Agghiacciante&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-08-01T18:09:00.000Z|technical_request"></span>
+</p><p>Semplicmente Agghiacciante <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Semplicemente_Agghiacciante&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Semplicemente Agghiacciante (page does not exist)">Semplicemente Agghiacciante</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Semplicemente_Agghiacciante#top" title="User talk:Semplicemente Agghiacciante">talk</a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Semplicemente_Agghiacciante" title="Special:Contributions/Semplicemente Agghiacciante">contribs</a>) 18:09, 1 August 2019 (UTC)</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-08-01T18:09:00.000Z|technical_request&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-01T18:11:00.000Z|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-08-01T18:09:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-01T18:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Semplicemente Agghiacciante&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-08-01T18:09:00.000Z|technical_request"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-01T18:11:00.000Z|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-08-01T18:09:00.000Z"></span>As I replied above, <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r886049556"/><q class="inline-quote-talk">You can ask over at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AN">WP:AN</a> if you think we should put in an override to the global block for some reason.</q> — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 18:11, 1 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-01T18:11:00.000Z|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-08-01T18:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-01T18:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-01T18:11:00.000Z|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-08-01T18:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-01T18:11:00.000Z|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-08-01T18:09:00.000Z"></span>As I replied above, <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r886049556"/><q class="inline-quote-talk">You can ask over at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AN">WP:AN</a> if you think we should put in an override to the global block for some reason.</q> — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 18:11, 1 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-01T18:11:00.000Z|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-08-01T18:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-01T18:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-01T18:11:00.000Z|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-08-01T18:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-08-03T12:12:00.000Z|technical_request"></span>So i have to ask for a special treatment for this globl block locally
 </p><p>I thought that a sysop was normally able to override a global block to allow users to edit or creating accounts locally but i was wrong
 </p><p>It is strange though because there are global blocks for italian ip ranges which are normally overridden in it.wikipedia.org
 </p><p>I do not understand what difference there might be if i ask an english sysop to try overriding the block as i have already done and if i ask for the same thing in the noticeboard but i will do as you told me
 </p><p>This should be a technical issue not something about permissions or groups
-</p><p>Semplicmente Agghiacciante <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Semplicemente_Agghiacciante&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Semplicemente Agghiacciante (page does not exist)">Semplicemente Agghiacciante</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Semplicemente_Agghiacciante#top" title="User talk:Semplicemente Agghiacciante">talk</a>) 12:12, 3 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-08-03T12:12:00.000Z|technical_request&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-03T12:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Semplicemente Agghiacciante&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-08-03T12:12:00.000Z|technical_request"></span>
+</p><p>Semplicmente Agghiacciante <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Semplicemente_Agghiacciante&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Semplicemente Agghiacciante (page does not exist)">Semplicemente Agghiacciante</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Semplicemente_Agghiacciante#top" title="User talk:Semplicemente Agghiacciante">talk</a>) 12:12, 3 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-08-03T12:12:00.000Z|technical_request&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-03T12:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Semplicemente Agghiacciante&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Semplicemente Agghiacciante|2019-08-03T12:12:00.000Z|technical_request"></span>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Magog the Ogre|2019-07-28T15:32:00.000Z|Degua_Tembien"></span>Clicking on this link causes my processor to jump into overload and the page completely freezes. This happens in Linux Chrome 75 (not FF) private or standard mode. Is anyone else experiencing this issue? In IRC, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AntiCompositeNumber" title="User:AntiCompositeNumber">User:AntiCompositeNumber</a> mentioned it took longer than average but it did load for him. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Magog_the_Ogre" title="User:Magog the Ogre">Magog the Ogre</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Magog_the_Ogre" title="User talk:Magog the Ogre">t</a><small> • </small><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Magog_the_Ogre" title="Special:Contributions/Magog the Ogre">c</a>) 15:32, 28 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Magog the Ogre|2019-07-28T15:32:00.000Z|Degua_Tembien&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-28T16:02:00.000Z|Magog the Ogre|2019-07-28T15:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-28T15:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Magog the Ogre&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Magog the Ogre|2019-07-28T15:32:00.000Z|Degua_Tembien"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Magog the Ogre|2019-07-28T15:32:00.000Z|Degua_Tembien"></span>Clicking on this link causes my processor to jump into overload and the page completely freezes. This happens in Linux Chrome 75 (not FF) private or standard mode. Is anyone else experiencing this issue? In IRC, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AntiCompositeNumber" title="User:AntiCompositeNumber">User:AntiCompositeNumber</a> mentioned it took longer than average but it did load for him. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Magog_the_Ogre" title="User:Magog the Ogre">Magog the Ogre</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Magog_the_Ogre" title="User talk:Magog the Ogre">t</a><small> • </small><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Magog_the_Ogre" title="Special:Contributions/Magog the Ogre">c</a>) 15:32, 28 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Magog the Ogre|2019-07-28T15:32:00.000Z|Degua_Tembien&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-28T16:02:00.000Z|Magog the Ogre|2019-07-28T15:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-28T15:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Magog the Ogre&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Magog the Ogre|2019-07-28T15:32:00.000Z|Degua_Tembien"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-28T16:02:00.000Z|Magog the Ogre|2019-07-28T15:32:00.000Z"></span>The page loads normally for me in Google Chrome 75 on Linux until it gets to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:ImbaKernale1936.tiff&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="File:ImbaKernale1936.tiff (page does not exist)">File:ImbaKernale1936.tiff</a>, which is displayed as a png thumbnail in the page. The thumbnail takes approximately 30 seconds to load, during which time part of the page does not render, links do not work, and Chrome task manager show the tab as using ~100% CPU. Loading the thumbnail <a class="external text" href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/8c/ImbaKernale1936.tiff/lossless-page1-682px-ImbaKernale1936.tiff.png">directly</a> produces the same issue: 30s load time and 100% CPU. On Firefox, the thumbnail loads in 2000ms with <em>maybe</em> 10% cpu. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AntiCompositeNumber" title="User:AntiCompositeNumber">AntiCompositeNumber</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AntiCompositeNumber" title="User talk:AntiCompositeNumber">talk</a>) 16:02, 28 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-28T16:02:00.000Z|Magog the Ogre|2019-07-28T15:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|GreenC|2019-07-28T16:34:00.000Z|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-28T16:02:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-28T16:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;AntiCompositeNumber&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-28T16:02:00.000Z|Magog the Ogre|2019-07-28T15:32:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|GreenC|2019-07-28T16:34:00.000Z|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-28T16:02:00.000Z"></span>The file is a 21 MB tiff which is unnecessarily large IMO. Maybe a reduced sized JPG version could be created (as a new file on Commons) for use in Wiki pages.  -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GreenC" title="User:GreenC"><span style="color: #006A4E;"><b>Green</b></span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC" title="User talk:GreenC"><span style="color: #093;"><b>C</b></span></a> 16:34, 28 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GreenC|2019-07-28T16:34:00.000Z|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-28T16:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|GreenC|2019-07-28T16:40:00.000Z|GreenC|2019-07-28T16:34:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-28T16:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GreenC&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GreenC|2019-07-28T16:34:00.000Z|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-28T16:02:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|GreenC|2019-07-28T16:40:00.000Z|GreenC|2019-07-28T16:34:00.000Z"></span>A conversion to JPG might also reveal any errors in the tiff that are causing rendering problems in browsers. When I try to view the tiff in Firefox and then "+" to expand to full size it doesn't work but prompts for file download. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GreenC" title="User:GreenC"><span style="color: #006A4E;"><b>Green</b></span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC" title="User talk:GreenC"><span style="color: #093;"><b>C</b></span></a> 16:40, 28 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GreenC|2019-07-28T16:40:00.000Z|GreenC|2019-07-28T16:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Anomie|2019-07-28T23:33:00.000Z|GreenC|2019-07-28T16:40:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-28T16:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GreenC&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GreenC|2019-07-28T16:40:00.000Z|GreenC|2019-07-28T16:34:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Anomie|2019-07-28T23:33:00.000Z|GreenC|2019-07-28T16:40:00.000Z"></span>The TIFF seems to be a valid TIFF. But it contains a large block of data (about 20M of the 21M file) that's some sort of "Adobe Photoshop Document Data Block". That gets copied into the PNG thumbnail, and apparently the excessively large PNG chunk is making Chrome do a lot of work to process it. I have no idea whether the data in this huge block is legitimate Photoshop data or something else embedded. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anomie" title="User:Anomie">Anomie</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anomie" title="User talk:Anomie">⚔</a> 23:33, 28 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Anomie|2019-07-28T23:33:00.000Z|GreenC|2019-07-28T16:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Eurohunter|2019-08-03T15:48:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-07-28T23:33:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-28T23:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Anomie&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Anomie|2019-07-28T23:33:00.000Z|GreenC|2019-07-28T16:40:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Eurohunter|2019-08-03T15:48:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-07-28T23:33:00.000Z"></span>TIFF and article are loading normally for me (maximally in 2 seconds). <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Eurohunter" title="User:Eurohunter">Eurohunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eurohunter" title="User talk:Eurohunter">talk</a>) 15:48, 3 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Eurohunter|2019-08-03T15:48:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-07-28T23:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-03T15:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Eurohunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Eurohunter|2019-08-03T15:48:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-07-28T23:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-28T16:02:00.000Z|Magog the Ogre|2019-07-28T15:32:00.000Z"></span>The page loads normally for me in Google Chrome 75 on Linux until it gets to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:ImbaKernale1936.tiff&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="File:ImbaKernale1936.tiff (page does not exist)">File:ImbaKernale1936.tiff</a>, which is displayed as a png thumbnail in the page. The thumbnail takes approximately 30 seconds to load, during which time part of the page does not render, links do not work, and Chrome task manager show the tab as using ~100% CPU. Loading the thumbnail <a class="external text" href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/8c/ImbaKernale1936.tiff/lossless-page1-682px-ImbaKernale1936.tiff.png">directly</a> produces the same issue: 30s load time and 100% CPU. On Firefox, the thumbnail loads in 2000ms with <em>maybe</em> 10% cpu. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AntiCompositeNumber" title="User:AntiCompositeNumber">AntiCompositeNumber</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AntiCompositeNumber" title="User talk:AntiCompositeNumber">talk</a>) 16:02, 28 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-28T16:02:00.000Z|Magog the Ogre|2019-07-28T15:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|GreenC|2019-07-28T16:34:00.000Z|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-28T16:02:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-28T16:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;AntiCompositeNumber&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-28T16:02:00.000Z|Magog the Ogre|2019-07-28T15:32:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|GreenC|2019-07-28T16:34:00.000Z|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-28T16:02:00.000Z"></span>The file is a 21 MB tiff which is unnecessarily large IMO. Maybe a reduced sized JPG version could be created (as a new file on Commons) for use in Wiki pages.  -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GreenC" title="User:GreenC"><span style="color: #006A4E;"><b>Green</b></span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC" title="User talk:GreenC"><span style="color: #093;"><b>C</b></span></a> 16:34, 28 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GreenC|2019-07-28T16:34:00.000Z|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-28T16:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|GreenC|2019-07-28T16:40:00.000Z|GreenC|2019-07-28T16:34:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-28T16:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GreenC&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GreenC|2019-07-28T16:34:00.000Z|AntiCompositeNumber|2019-07-28T16:02:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|GreenC|2019-07-28T16:40:00.000Z|GreenC|2019-07-28T16:34:00.000Z"></span>A conversion to JPG might also reveal any errors in the tiff that are causing rendering problems in browsers. When I try to view the tiff in Firefox and then "+" to expand to full size it doesn't work but prompts for file download. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GreenC" title="User:GreenC"><span style="color: #006A4E;"><b>Green</b></span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC" title="User talk:GreenC"><span style="color: #093;"><b>C</b></span></a> 16:40, 28 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GreenC|2019-07-28T16:40:00.000Z|GreenC|2019-07-28T16:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Anomie|2019-07-28T23:33:00.000Z|GreenC|2019-07-28T16:40:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-28T16:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GreenC&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GreenC|2019-07-28T16:40:00.000Z|GreenC|2019-07-28T16:34:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Anomie|2019-07-28T23:33:00.000Z|GreenC|2019-07-28T16:40:00.000Z"></span>The TIFF seems to be a valid TIFF. But it contains a large block of data (about 20M of the 21M file) that's some sort of "Adobe Photoshop Document Data Block". That gets copied into the PNG thumbnail, and apparently the excessively large PNG chunk is making Chrome do a lot of work to process it. I have no idea whether the data in this huge block is legitimate Photoshop data or something else embedded. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anomie" title="User:Anomie">Anomie</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anomie" title="User talk:Anomie">⚔</a> 23:33, 28 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Anomie|2019-07-28T23:33:00.000Z|GreenC|2019-07-28T16:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Eurohunter|2019-08-03T15:48:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-07-28T23:33:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-28T23:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Anomie&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Anomie|2019-07-28T23:33:00.000Z|GreenC|2019-07-28T16:40:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Eurohunter|2019-08-03T15:48:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-07-28T23:33:00.000Z"></span>TIFF and article are loading normally for me (maximally in 2 seconds). <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Eurohunter" title="User:Eurohunter">Eurohunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eurohunter" title="User talk:Eurohunter">talk</a>) 15:48, 3 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Eurohunter|2019-08-03T15:48:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-07-28T23:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-03T15:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Eurohunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Eurohunter|2019-08-03T15:48:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-07-28T23:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Eurohunter|2019-08-03T15:50:00.000Z|2019_Hong_Kong_anti-extradition_bill_protests"></span>How it's done that <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Hong_Kong_English" title="Template:Hong Kong English">Hong Kong English</a> banner is showing on the top of the page while editing? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Eurohunter" title="User:Eurohunter">Eurohunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eurohunter" title="User talk:Eurohunter">talk</a>) 15:50, 3 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Eurohunter|2019-08-03T15:50:00.000Z|2019_Hong_Kong_anti-extradition_bill_protests&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Pppery|2019-08-03T15:52:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2019-08-03T15:50:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-03T15:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Eurohunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Eurohunter|2019-08-03T15:50:00.000Z|2019_Hong_Kong_anti-extradition_bill_protests"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Eurohunter|2019-08-03T15:50:00.000Z|2019_Hong_Kong_anti-extradition_bill_protests"></span>How it's done that <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Hong_Kong_English" title="Template:Hong Kong English">Hong Kong English</a> banner is showing on the top of the page while editing? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Eurohunter" title="User:Eurohunter">Eurohunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eurohunter" title="User talk:Eurohunter">talk</a>) 15:50, 3 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Eurohunter|2019-08-03T15:50:00.000Z|2019_Hong_Kong_anti-extradition_bill_protests&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Pppery|2019-08-03T15:52:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2019-08-03T15:50:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-03T15:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Eurohunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Eurohunter|2019-08-03T15:50:00.000Z|2019_Hong_Kong_anti-extradition_bill_protests"></span>
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-<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Editnotices/Page/2019_Hong_Kong_anti-extradition_bill_protests&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:Editnotices/Page/2019 Hong Kong anti-extradition bill protests (page does not exist)"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Pppery|2019-08-03T15:52:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2019-08-03T15:50:00.000Z"></span>Template:Editnotices/Page/2019 Hong Kong anti-extradition bill protests</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pppery" title="User:Pppery">* Pppery *</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pppery" title="User talk:Pppery"><sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub></a> 15:52, 3 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pppery|2019-08-03T15:52:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2019-08-03T15:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-03T15:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pppery&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Pppery|2019-08-03T15:52:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2019-08-03T15:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Editnotices/Page/2019_Hong_Kong_anti-extradition_bill_protests&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:Editnotices/Page/2019 Hong Kong anti-extradition bill protests (page does not exist)"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Pppery|2019-08-03T15:52:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2019-08-03T15:50:00.000Z"></span>Template:Editnotices/Page/2019 Hong Kong anti-extradition bill protests</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pppery" title="User:Pppery">* Pppery *</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pppery" title="User talk:Pppery"><sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub></a> 15:52, 3 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pppery|2019-08-03T15:52:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2019-08-03T15:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-03T15:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pppery&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Pppery|2019-08-03T15:52:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2019-08-03T15:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Re-request_for_auto_archiving" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Re-request_for_auto_archiving|2019-08-03T17:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|QuackGuru|2019-08-03T17:33:00.000Z|Re-request_for_auto_archiving&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Re-request_for_auto_archiving|2019-08-03T17:33:00.000Z"></span>Re-request for auto archiving<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Re-request_for_auto_archiving|2019-08-03T17:33:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QuackGuru|2019-08-03T17:33:00.000Z|Re-request_for_auto_archiving"></span>For two talk pages. See <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Juul" title="Talk:Juul">Talk:Juul</a> and see <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Pax_Labs" title="Talk:Pax Labs">Talk:Pax_Labs</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:QuackGuru&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:QuackGuru (page does not exist)"><b style="color: #e34234;">QuackGuru</b></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QuackGuru" title="User talk:QuackGuru"><span style="color: #B02200;">talk</span></a>) 17:33, 3 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QuackGuru|2019-08-03T17:33:00.000Z|Re-request_for_auto_archiving&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-08-03T18:36:00.000Z|QuackGuru|2019-08-03T17:33:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-03T17:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QuackGuru&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QuackGuru|2019-08-03T17:33:00.000Z|Re-request_for_auto_archiving"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QuackGuru|2019-08-03T17:33:00.000Z|Re-request_for_auto_archiving"></span>For two talk pages. See <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Juul" title="Talk:Juul">Talk:Juul</a> and see <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Pax_Labs" title="Talk:Pax Labs">Talk:Pax_Labs</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:QuackGuru&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:QuackGuru (page does not exist)"><b style="color: #e34234;">QuackGuru</b></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QuackGuru" title="User talk:QuackGuru"><span style="color: #B02200;">talk</span></a>) 17:33, 3 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QuackGuru|2019-08-03T17:33:00.000Z|Re-request_for_auto_archiving&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-08-03T18:36:00.000Z|QuackGuru|2019-08-03T17:33:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-03T17:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QuackGuru&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QuackGuru|2019-08-03T17:33:00.000Z|Re-request_for_auto_archiving"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-08-03T18:36:00.000Z|QuackGuru|2019-08-03T17:33:00.000Z"></span>When you say "re-request", where are the previous requests? We would like to see why they were not actioned. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 18:36, 3 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-08-03T18:36:00.000Z|QuackGuru|2019-08-03T17:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-03T18:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-08-03T18:36:00.000Z|QuackGuru|2019-08-03T17:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-08-03T18:36:00.000Z|QuackGuru|2019-08-03T17:33:00.000Z"></span>When you say "re-request", where are the previous requests? We would like to see why they were not actioned. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 18:36, 3 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-08-03T18:36:00.000Z|QuackGuru|2019-08-03T17:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-03T18:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-08-03T18:36:00.000Z|QuackGuru|2019-08-03T17:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Softlavender|2019-08-03T08:36:00.000Z|Authority_Control:_&quot;The_NLR_id_XXXXXXXXX_is_not_valid&quot;"></span>I'm seeing this large notice in red on all kinds of <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Authority_control" title="Template:Authority control">Authority Control</a> templates now. Also "The BNC id XXXXXXXXXX is not valid". Sample: <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Walker#External_links">[31]</a>. Could someone please fix this? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Softlavender" title="User:Softlavender">Softlavender</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Softlavender" title="User talk:Softlavender">talk</a>) 08:36, 3 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Softlavender|2019-08-03T08:36:00.000Z|Authority_Control:_\&quot;The_NLR_id_XXXXXXXXX_is_not_valid\&quot;&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-08-03T09:20:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-03T08:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Softlavender|2019-08-03T10:15:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-03T08:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Johnuniq|2019-08-03T11:07:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-03T08:36:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-03T08:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Softlavender&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Softlavender|2019-08-03T08:36:00.000Z|Authority_Control:_&quot;The_NLR_id_XXXXXXXXX_is_not_valid&quot;"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Softlavender|2019-08-03T08:36:00.000Z|Authority_Control:_&quot;The_NLR_id_XXXXXXXXX_is_not_valid&quot;"></span>I'm seeing this large notice in red on all kinds of <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Authority_control" title="Template:Authority control">Authority Control</a> templates now. Also "The BNC id XXXXXXXXXX is not valid". Sample: <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Walker#External_links">[31]</a>. Could someone please fix this? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Softlavender" title="User:Softlavender">Softlavender</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Softlavender" title="User talk:Softlavender">talk</a>) 08:36, 3 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Softlavender|2019-08-03T08:36:00.000Z|Authority_Control:_\&quot;The_NLR_id_XXXXXXXXX_is_not_valid\&quot;&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-08-03T09:20:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-03T08:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Softlavender|2019-08-03T10:15:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-03T08:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Johnuniq|2019-08-03T11:07:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-03T08:36:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-03T08:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Softlavender&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Softlavender|2019-08-03T08:36:00.000Z|Authority_Control:_&quot;The_NLR_id_XXXXXXXXX_is_not_valid&quot;"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ammarpad|2019-08-03T09:20:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-03T08:36:00.000Z"></span>It was broken by <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Module:Authority_control&amp;diff=908337725&amp;oldid=902387185">this edit</a> which added the identifiers here for the first time. NLP with 2K+ pages is broken too. For instance; <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:Authority_control" title="Module:Authority control">its regex</a> requires every id to be prefixed with <code class="mw-highlight" id="" style="" dir="ltr">9810-</code> but the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_articles_with_faulty_NLP_identifiers" title="Category:Wikipedia articles with faulty NLP identifiers">2500+ broken pages</a> seem to be using IDs in the form of <code class="mw-highlight" id="" style="" dir="ltr">A12345678</code>; i.e 'A' prefix followed by 8 numbers. If the regex by <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tom.Reding" title="User:Tom.Reding">Tom.Reding</a> is correct, then all those ids have to be corrected from Wikidata otherwise the regex needs to be corrected. – <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ammarpad" title="User:Ammarpad">Ammarpad</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ammarpad" title="User talk:Ammarpad">talk</a>) 09:20, 3 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-08-03T09:20:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-03T08:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Softlavender|2019-08-03T10:32:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-03T09:20:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-03T09:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ammarpad&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ammarpad|2019-08-03T09:20:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-03T08:36:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Softlavender|2019-08-03T10:32:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-03T09:20:00.000Z"></span>Can someone please simply remove the non-working identifiers added by <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tom.Reding" title="User:Tom.Reding">Tom.Reding</a>? This is an absolute mess. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Softlavender" title="User:Softlavender">Softlavender</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Softlavender" title="User talk:Softlavender">talk</a>) 10:32, 3 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Softlavender|2019-08-03T10:32:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-03T09:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-03T10:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Softlavender&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Softlavender|2019-08-03T10:32:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-03T09:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Softlavender|2019-08-03T10:15:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-03T08:36:00.000Z"></span>For some examples, there are currently nearly 5,000 NLP-invalid messages on Authority Control templates: <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?sort=relevance&amp;search=%22The+NLP+id%22&amp;title=Special%3ASearch&amp;profile=advanced&amp;fulltext=1&amp;advancedSearch-current=%7B%7D&amp;ns0=1">[32]</a>; nearly 700 NLR-invalid messages on Authority Control templates: <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?sort=relevance&amp;search=%22The+NLR+id%22&amp;title=Special%3ASearch&amp;profile=advanced&amp;fulltext=1&amp;advancedSearch-current=%7B%7D&amp;ns0=1">[33]</a>, and at least 170 BNC-invalid messages: <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=%22The+BNC+id%22&amp;title=Special%3ASearch&amp;profile=default&amp;fulltext=1&amp;ns0=1">[34]</a>. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Softlavender" title="User:Softlavender">Softlavender</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Softlavender" title="User talk:Softlavender">talk</a>) 10:15, 3 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Softlavender|2019-08-03T10:15:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-03T08:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-03T10:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Softlavender&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Softlavender|2019-08-03T10:15:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-03T08:36:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Johnuniq|2019-08-03T11:07:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-03T08:36:00.000Z"></span>At <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Authority_control#&quot;The_NLR_id_XXXXXXXXX_is_not_valid&quot;" title="Template talk:Authority control">template talk</a> I investigated two of the errors and found that the template is correct, namely that the values in Wikidata are invalid. Can anyone find an id that causes an error to display yet which works when its link is clicked at the article's Wikidata item? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq" title="User talk:Johnuniq">talk</a>) 11:07, 3 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Johnuniq|2019-08-03T11:07:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-03T08:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Softlavender|2019-08-03T11:25:00.000Z|Johnuniq|2019-08-03T11:07:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-03T11:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Johnuniq&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Johnuniq|2019-08-03T11:07:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-03T08:36:00.000Z"></span>
-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Softlavender|2019-08-03T11:25:00.000Z|Johnuniq|2019-08-03T11:07:00.000Z"></span>If values of an identifier are incorrect on Wikidata, they should never have been added to Authority Control. Could someone please revert all of those non-working additions until such time as the information for them on Wikidata is correct? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Softlavender" title="User:Softlavender">Softlavender</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Softlavender" title="User talk:Softlavender">talk</a>) 11:25, 3 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Softlavender|2019-08-03T11:25:00.000Z|Johnuniq|2019-08-03T11:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-03T11:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Softlavender&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Softlavender|2019-08-03T11:25:00.000Z|Johnuniq|2019-08-03T11:07:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Izno|2019-08-03T17:22:00.000Z|Authority_Control:_&quot;The_NLR_id_XXXXXXXXX_is_not_valid&quot;"></span>This discussion should probably move to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Authority_control" title="Template talk:Authority control">Template talk:Authority control</a>. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 17:22, 3 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-03T17:22:00.000Z|Authority_Control:_\&quot;The_NLR_id_XXXXXXXXX_is_not_valid\&quot;&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Johnuniq|2019-08-04T02:22:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-03T17:22:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-03T17:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Izno&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Izno|2019-08-03T17:22:00.000Z|Authority_Control:_&quot;The_NLR_id_XXXXXXXXX_is_not_valid&quot;"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ammarpad|2019-08-03T09:20:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-03T08:36:00.000Z"></span>It was broken by <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Module:Authority_control&amp;diff=908337725&amp;oldid=902387185">this edit</a> which added the identifiers here for the first time. NLP with 2K+ pages is broken too. For instance; <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:Authority_control" title="Module:Authority control">its regex</a> requires every id to be prefixed with <code class="mw-highlight" id="" style="" dir="ltr">9810-</code> but the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_articles_with_faulty_NLP_identifiers" title="Category:Wikipedia articles with faulty NLP identifiers">2500+ broken pages</a> seem to be using IDs in the form of <code class="mw-highlight" id="" style="" dir="ltr">A12345678</code>; i.e 'A' prefix followed by 8 numbers. If the regex by <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tom.Reding" title="User:Tom.Reding">Tom.Reding</a> is correct, then all those ids have to be corrected from Wikidata otherwise the regex needs to be corrected. – <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ammarpad" title="User:Ammarpad">Ammarpad</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ammarpad" title="User talk:Ammarpad">talk</a>) 09:20, 3 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-08-03T09:20:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-03T08:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Softlavender|2019-08-03T10:32:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-03T09:20:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-03T09:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ammarpad&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ammarpad|2019-08-03T09:20:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-03T08:36:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Softlavender|2019-08-03T10:32:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-03T09:20:00.000Z"></span>Can someone please simply remove the non-working identifiers added by <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tom.Reding" title="User:Tom.Reding">Tom.Reding</a>? This is an absolute mess. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Softlavender" title="User:Softlavender">Softlavender</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Softlavender" title="User talk:Softlavender">talk</a>) 10:32, 3 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Softlavender|2019-08-03T10:32:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-03T09:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-03T10:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Softlavender&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Softlavender|2019-08-03T10:32:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-03T09:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Softlavender|2019-08-03T10:15:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-03T08:36:00.000Z"></span>For some examples, there are currently nearly 5,000 NLP-invalid messages on Authority Control templates: <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?sort=relevance&amp;search=%22The+NLP+id%22&amp;title=Special%3ASearch&amp;profile=advanced&amp;fulltext=1&amp;advancedSearch-current=%7B%7D&amp;ns0=1">[32]</a>; nearly 700 NLR-invalid messages on Authority Control templates: <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?sort=relevance&amp;search=%22The+NLR+id%22&amp;title=Special%3ASearch&amp;profile=advanced&amp;fulltext=1&amp;advancedSearch-current=%7B%7D&amp;ns0=1">[33]</a>, and at least 170 BNC-invalid messages: <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=%22The+BNC+id%22&amp;title=Special%3ASearch&amp;profile=default&amp;fulltext=1&amp;ns0=1">[34]</a>. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Softlavender" title="User:Softlavender">Softlavender</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Softlavender" title="User talk:Softlavender">talk</a>) 10:15, 3 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Softlavender|2019-08-03T10:15:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-03T08:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-03T10:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Softlavender&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Softlavender|2019-08-03T10:15:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-03T08:36:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Johnuniq|2019-08-03T11:07:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-03T08:36:00.000Z"></span>At <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Authority_control#&quot;The_NLR_id_XXXXXXXXX_is_not_valid&quot;" title="Template talk:Authority control">template talk</a> I investigated two of the errors and found that the template is correct, namely that the values in Wikidata are invalid. Can anyone find an id that causes an error to display yet which works when its link is clicked at the article's Wikidata item? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq" title="User talk:Johnuniq">talk</a>) 11:07, 3 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Johnuniq|2019-08-03T11:07:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-03T08:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Softlavender|2019-08-03T11:25:00.000Z|Johnuniq|2019-08-03T11:07:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-03T11:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Johnuniq&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Johnuniq|2019-08-03T11:07:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-03T08:36:00.000Z"></span>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Softlavender|2019-08-03T11:25:00.000Z|Johnuniq|2019-08-03T11:07:00.000Z"></span>If values of an identifier are incorrect on Wikidata, they should never have been added to Authority Control. Could someone please revert all of those non-working additions until such time as the information for them on Wikidata is correct? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Softlavender" title="User:Softlavender">Softlavender</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Softlavender" title="User talk:Softlavender">talk</a>) 11:25, 3 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Softlavender|2019-08-03T11:25:00.000Z|Johnuniq|2019-08-03T11:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-03T11:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Softlavender&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Softlavender|2019-08-03T11:25:00.000Z|Johnuniq|2019-08-03T11:07:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Izno|2019-08-03T17:22:00.000Z|Authority_Control:_&quot;The_NLR_id_XXXXXXXXX_is_not_valid&quot;"></span>This discussion should probably move to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Authority_control" title="Template talk:Authority control">Template talk:Authority control</a>. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 17:22, 3 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-03T17:22:00.000Z|Authority_Control:_\&quot;The_NLR_id_XXXXXXXXX_is_not_valid\&quot;&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Johnuniq|2019-08-04T02:22:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-03T17:22:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-03T17:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Izno&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Izno|2019-08-03T17:22:00.000Z|Authority_Control:_&quot;The_NLR_id_XXXXXXXXX_is_not_valid&quot;"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Johnuniq|2019-08-04T02:22:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-03T17:22:00.000Z"></span>I commented-out the IDs in the module to avoid the problem, see template talk. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq" title="User talk:Johnuniq">talk</a>) 02:22, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Johnuniq|2019-08-04T02:22:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-03T17:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T02:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Johnuniq&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Johnuniq|2019-08-04T02:22:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-03T17:22:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Johnuniq|2019-08-04T02:22:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-03T17:22:00.000Z"></span>I commented-out the IDs in the module to avoid the problem, see template talk. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Johnuniq" title="User:Johnuniq">Johnuniq</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnuniq" title="User talk:Johnuniq">talk</a>) 02:22, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Johnuniq|2019-08-04T02:22:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-03T17:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T02:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Johnuniq&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Johnuniq|2019-08-04T02:22:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-03T17:22:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Request_for_Comments:_WikiLoop_Battlefield" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Request_for_Comments:_WikiLoop_Battlefield|2019-08-03T04:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xinbenlv|2019-08-03T04:57:00.000Z|Request_for_Comments:_WikiLoop_Battlefield&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Request_for_Comments:_WikiLoop_Battlefield|2019-08-03T04:57:00.000Z"></span>Request for Comments: WikiLoop Battlefield<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Request_for_Comments:_WikiLoop_Battlefield|2019-08-03T04:57:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xinbenlv|2019-08-03T04:57:00.000Z|Request_for_Comments:_WikiLoop_Battlefield"></span>Hi Techy Wikipedians, I'd like to invite you to try out an open source tool we are actively developing: WikiLoop Battlefield. It's goal is to make monitoring Wikipedia incoming edits, in particular, potential vandalism, easier.
 </p><p>See it here
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-<p><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xinbenlv" title="User:Xinbenlv">Xinbenlv</a>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xinbenlv" title="User talk:Xinbenlv">t</a>) <sup>please notify me with {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Ping" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Ping">ping</a>}} </sup> 04:57, 3 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xinbenlv|2019-08-03T04:57:00.000Z|Request_for_Comments:_WikiLoop_Battlefield&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Graham87|2019-08-04T07:00:00.000Z|Xinbenlv|2019-08-03T04:57:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-03T04:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xinbenlv&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xinbenlv|2019-08-03T04:57:00.000Z|Request_for_Comments:_WikiLoop_Battlefield"></span>
+<p><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xinbenlv" title="User:Xinbenlv">Xinbenlv</a>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xinbenlv" title="User talk:Xinbenlv">t</a>) <sup>please notify me with {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Ping" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Ping">ping</a>}} </sup> 04:57, 3 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xinbenlv|2019-08-03T04:57:00.000Z|Request_for_Comments:_WikiLoop_Battlefield&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Graham87|2019-08-04T07:00:00.000Z|Xinbenlv|2019-08-03T04:57:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-03T04:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xinbenlv&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xinbenlv|2019-08-03T04:57:00.000Z|Request_for_Comments:_WikiLoop_Battlefield"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Graham87|2019-08-04T07:00:00.000Z|Xinbenlv|2019-08-03T04:57:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xinbenlv" title="User:Xinbenlv">Xinbenlv</a>:</span> For <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:What_links_here" title="Help:What links here">the "what links here" page</a> to function, it's better to link to the page using wiki-markup: <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiLoop_Battlefield" title="Wikipedia:WikiLoop Battlefield">Wikipedia:WikiLoop Battlefield</a>. I had an incredibly frustrating experience earlier this afternoon because a user made an incomplete revert with this tool, which shouldn't even be possible in the first place, at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federation_of_Australia" title="Federation of Australia">Federation of Australia</a>, an article on my watchlist. It was difficult to figure out where to report the issue; I've added the GitHub link to the project page and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/google/wikiloop-battlefield/issues/57">reported it there</a>. I also wrote <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:WikiProject_WikiLoop#WikiLoop_Battlefield" class="extiw" title="m:Talk:WikiProject WikiLoop">a message on Meta</a>; I don't feel like reporting the second issue there to GitHub because it's so minor, but it's about where the link in the edit summary should go. I consider the first issue so major that I don't think the program should make any more edits until it is fixed. <b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Graham87" title="User:Graham87">Graham</a></b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Graham87" title="User talk:Graham87"><span style="color: green;">87</span></a> 07:00, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Graham87|2019-08-04T07:00:00.000Z|Xinbenlv|2019-08-03T04:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T07:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Graham87&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Graham87|2019-08-04T07:00:00.000Z|Xinbenlv|2019-08-03T04:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Graham87|2019-08-04T07:00:00.000Z|Xinbenlv|2019-08-03T04:57:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xinbenlv" title="User:Xinbenlv">Xinbenlv</a>:</span> For <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:What_links_here" title="Help:What links here">the "what links here" page</a> to function, it's better to link to the page using wiki-markup: <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiLoop_Battlefield" title="Wikipedia:WikiLoop Battlefield">Wikipedia:WikiLoop Battlefield</a>. I had an incredibly frustrating experience earlier this afternoon because a user made an incomplete revert with this tool, which shouldn't even be possible in the first place, at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federation_of_Australia" title="Federation of Australia">Federation of Australia</a>, an article on my watchlist. It was difficult to figure out where to report the issue; I've added the GitHub link to the project page and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/google/wikiloop-battlefield/issues/57">reported it there</a>. I also wrote <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:WikiProject_WikiLoop#WikiLoop_Battlefield" class="extiw" title="m:Talk:WikiProject WikiLoop">a message on Meta</a>; I don't feel like reporting the second issue there to GitHub because it's so minor, but it's about where the link in the edit summary should go. I consider the first issue so major that I don't think the program should make any more edits until it is fixed. <b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Graham87" title="User:Graham87">Graham</a></b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Graham87" title="User talk:Graham87"><span style="color: green;">87</span></a> 07:00, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Graham87|2019-08-04T07:00:00.000Z|Xinbenlv|2019-08-03T04:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T07:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Graham87&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Graham87|2019-08-04T07:00:00.000Z|Xinbenlv|2019-08-03T04:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
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 <p>Hi, Yesterday night I'd reinstated my userpage however I've noticed a few barnstar pictures not showing on my userpage or at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Davey2010/Barnstars" title="User:Davey2010/Barnstars">User:Davey2010/Barnstars</a>,<br/>
 I've tried CTRL &amp; F5 as well as <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:PURGE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PURGE">WP:PURGE</a> but nothing's working?, The pictures show on other editors userpages so I would assume it's either related to my barnstars page or my laptop?,<br/>
-Thanks, –<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Davey2010" title="User:Davey2010"><span style="color: blue;"><b>Davey</b></span><span style="color: orange;"><b>2010</b></span></a><sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Davey2010" title="User talk:Davey2010"><span style="color: navy;"><b>Talk</b></span></a></sup> 14:31, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Davey2010|2019-08-04T14:31:00.000Z|Barnstar_pictures_not_showing&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|\u00dejarkur|2019-08-04T14:43:00.000Z|Davey2010|2019-08-04T14:31:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T14:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Davey2010&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Davey2010|2019-08-04T14:31:00.000Z|Barnstar_pictures_not_showing"></span>
+Thanks, –<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Davey2010" title="User:Davey2010"><span style="color: blue;"><b>Davey</b></span><span style="color: orange;"><b>2010</b></span></a><sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Davey2010" title="User talk:Davey2010"><span style="color: navy;"><b>Talk</b></span></a></sup> 14:31, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Davey2010|2019-08-04T14:31:00.000Z|Barnstar_pictures_not_showing&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|\u00dejarkur|2019-08-04T14:43:00.000Z|Davey2010|2019-08-04T14:31:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T14:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Davey2010&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Davey2010|2019-08-04T14:31:00.000Z|Barnstar_pictures_not_showing"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Þjarkur|2019-08-04T14:43:00.000Z|Davey2010|2019-08-04T14:31:00.000Z"></span>Your icons shows up for me, but I've seen the same happen randomly on various userboxes and WikiProject templates recently. For example {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:User_WikiProject_Uganda" title="Template:User WikiProject Uganda">User WikiProject Uganda</a>}} shows up for me as "Flag of Uganda.svg" on Chrome but shows up correctly on Safari. – <b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%C3%9Ejarkur" title="User:Þjarkur">Thjarkur</a></b> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%C3%9Ejarkur" title="User talk:Þjarkur">(talk)</a> 14:43, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u00dejarkur|2019-08-04T14:43:00.000Z|Davey2010|2019-08-04T14:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Davey2010|2019-08-04T18:06:00.000Z|\u00dejarkur|2019-08-04T14:43:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T14:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u00dejarkur&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Þjarkur|2019-08-04T14:43:00.000Z|Davey2010|2019-08-04T14:31:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Þjarkur|2019-08-04T14:43:00.000Z|Davey2010|2019-08-04T14:31:00.000Z"></span>Your icons shows up for me, but I've seen the same happen randomly on various userboxes and WikiProject templates recently. For example {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:User_WikiProject_Uganda" title="Template:User WikiProject Uganda">User WikiProject Uganda</a>}} shows up for me as "Flag of Uganda.svg" on Chrome but shows up correctly on Safari. – <b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%C3%9Ejarkur" title="User:Þjarkur">Thjarkur</a></b> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%C3%9Ejarkur" title="User talk:Þjarkur">(talk)</a> 14:43, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u00dejarkur|2019-08-04T14:43:00.000Z|Davey2010|2019-08-04T14:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Davey2010|2019-08-04T18:06:00.000Z|\u00dejarkur|2019-08-04T14:43:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T14:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u00dejarkur&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Þjarkur|2019-08-04T14:43:00.000Z|Davey2010|2019-08-04T14:31:00.000Z"></span>
 <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Davey2010|2019-08-04T18:06:00.000Z|Þjarkur|2019-08-04T14:43:00.000Z"></span>Ah okay, Tried Firefox and it does work there so reading your reply I would obviously say it's something wrong with Chrome,</dd>
 <dd>Downloaded IE but it wants me to restart the laptop in order to install it ... something I can't be bothered to do given the length of time it takes for this machine to boot up ... so we'll assume it works on there too :),</dd>
-<dd>Anyway many thanks for your help! :), –<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Davey2010" title="User:Davey2010"><span style="color: blue;"><b>Davey</b></span><span style="color: orange;"><b>2010</b></span></a><sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Davey2010" title="User talk:Davey2010"><span style="color: navy;"><b>Talk</b></span></a></sup> 18:06, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Davey2010|2019-08-04T18:06:00.000Z|\u00dejarkur|2019-08-04T14:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T18:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Davey2010&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Davey2010|2019-08-04T18:06:00.000Z|Þjarkur|2019-08-04T14:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dd>Anyway many thanks for your help! :), –<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Davey2010" title="User:Davey2010"><span style="color: blue;"><b>Davey</b></span><span style="color: orange;"><b>2010</b></span></a><sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Davey2010" title="User talk:Davey2010"><span style="color: navy;"><b>Talk</b></span></a></sup> 18:06, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Davey2010|2019-08-04T18:06:00.000Z|\u00dejarkur|2019-08-04T14:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T18:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Davey2010&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Davey2010|2019-08-04T18:06:00.000Z|Þjarkur|2019-08-04T14:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ched|2019-08-04T20:13:00.000Z|Preferences"></span>Is there a way to make our preferences global, or at least the default across the different wiki sites? — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ched" title="User:Ched">Ched</a></b> : <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ched" title="User talk:Ched"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;background:#0000fa;"> ? </span></a></span></small>   —  20:13, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ched|2019-08-04T20:13:00.000Z|Preferences&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-04T20:23:00.000Z|Ched|2019-08-04T20:13:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T20:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ched&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ched|2019-08-04T20:13:00.000Z|Preferences"></span>Is there a way to make our preferences global, or at least the default across the different wiki sites? — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ched" title="User:Ched">Ched</a></b> : <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ched" title="User talk:Ched"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;background:#0000fa;"> ? </span></a></span></small>   —  20:13, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ched|2019-08-04T20:13:00.000Z|Preferences&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-04T20:23:00.000Z|Ched|2019-08-04T20:13:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T20:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ched&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Izno|2019-08-04T20:23:00.000Z|Ched|2019-08-04T20:13:00.000Z"></span>Try <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:GlobalPreferences" title="Special:GlobalPreferences">Special:GlobalPreferences</a>. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 20:23, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-04T20:23:00.000Z|Ched|2019-08-04T20:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ched|2019-08-04T21:02:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-04T20:23:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T20:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Izno&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Izno|2019-08-04T20:23:00.000Z|Ched|2019-08-04T20:13:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ched|2019-08-04T21:02:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-04T20:23:00.000Z"></span>Thank you — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ched" title="User:Ched">Ched</a></b> : <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ched" title="User talk:Ched"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;background:#0000fa;"> ? </span></a></span></small>   —  21:02, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ched|2019-08-04T21:02:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-04T20:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-08-04T21:07:00.000Z|Ched|2019-08-04T21:02:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T21:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ched&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-08-04T21:07:00.000Z|Ched|2019-08-04T21:02:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ched" title="User:Ched">Ched</a>:</span> At <span class="example" style="font-family: Georgia, serif;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences" title="Special:Preferences">Preferences</a></span>, on the first page under "Basic information", you should find "Global preferences: <kbd class="nowrap button" title="This is not a clickable button; it illustrates the button one should find." style="padding:.2em .6em; border:1px solid; border-color:#AAA #555 #555 #AAA; border-radius:3px; background-color: #F2F2F2; color: #000; background-image: -moz-linear-gradient(top, #FCFCFC, #E0E0E0); background-image: -o-linear-gradient(top, #FCFCFC, #E0E0E0); background-image: -webkit-linear-gradient(top, #FCFCFC, #E0E0E0); background-image: linear-gradient(to bottom, #FCFCFC, #E0E0E0); font-family:sans-serif;">Set your global preferences</kbd><br/>Preferences set via the global preferences page will apply to all wikis." --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 21:07, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-08-04T21:07:00.000Z|Ched|2019-08-04T21:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ched|2019-08-04T21:17:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-08-04T21:07:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T21:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-08-04T21:07:00.000Z|Ched|2019-08-04T21:02:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ched|2019-08-04T21:17:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-08-04T21:07:00.000Z"></span>Thank you Redrose64.  I noticed that now I have the option to override individual settings now, and that the gadgets aren't available globally.   It's still enough to make any efforts outside en-wp a bit more similar.  Appreciate the help folks. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ched" title="User:Ched">Ched</a></b> : <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ched" title="User talk:Ched"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;background:#0000fa;"> ? </span></a></span></small>   —  21:17, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ched|2019-08-04T21:17:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-08-04T21:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-08-04T21:39:00.000Z|Ched|2019-08-04T21:17:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T21:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ched&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-08-04T21:39:00.000Z|Ched|2019-08-04T21:17:00.000Z"></span>No, gadgets are local to each wiki. But if you know how to use <code>@import</code> in CSS and <code>mw.loader.load</code> in JavaScript, it's possible to use a gadget from one wiki on another wiki. For example, there are no gadgets at <a href="https://cy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbennig:Preferences" class="extiw" title="cy:Arbennig:Preferences">Wicipedia Cymraeg</a> - yet I use one there, by means of <a href="https://cy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defnyddiwr:Redrose64/common.js" class="extiw" title="cy:Defnyddiwr:Redrose64/common.js">cy:Defnyddiwr:Redrose64/common.js</a>. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 21:39, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-08-04T21:39:00.000Z|Ched|2019-08-04T21:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-04T21:55:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-08-04T21:39:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T21:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-08-04T21:39:00.000Z|Ched|2019-08-04T21:17:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Izno|2019-08-04T21:55:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-08-04T21:39:00.000Z"></span>Which actually can be extended by addition to your global CSS and JS pages at e.g. <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Izno/global.css" class="extiw" title="meta:User:Izno/global.css">meta:User:Izno/global.css</a> and <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Izno/global.js" class="extiw" title="meta:User:Izno/global.js">meta:User:Izno/global.js</a>. You can probably load certain gadgets optionally on certain wikis with a little more know how. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 21:55, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-04T21:55:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-08-04T21:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T21:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Izno&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Izno|2019-08-04T21:55:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-08-04T21:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ched|2019-08-04T21:17:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-08-04T21:07:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ched|2019-08-04T21:02:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-04T20:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Izno|2019-08-04T20:23:00.000Z|Ched|2019-08-04T20:13:00.000Z"></span>Try <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:GlobalPreferences" title="Special:GlobalPreferences">Special:GlobalPreferences</a>. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 20:23, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-04T20:23:00.000Z|Ched|2019-08-04T20:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ched|2019-08-04T21:02:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-04T20:23:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T20:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Izno&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Izno|2019-08-04T20:23:00.000Z|Ched|2019-08-04T20:13:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ched|2019-08-04T21:02:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-04T20:23:00.000Z"></span>Thank you — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ched" title="User:Ched">Ched</a></b> : <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ched" title="User talk:Ched"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;background:#0000fa;"> ? </span></a></span></small>   —  21:02, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ched|2019-08-04T21:02:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-04T20:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-08-04T21:07:00.000Z|Ched|2019-08-04T21:02:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T21:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ched&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-08-04T21:07:00.000Z|Ched|2019-08-04T21:02:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ched" title="User:Ched">Ched</a>:</span> At <span class="example" style="font-family: Georgia, serif;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences" title="Special:Preferences">Preferences</a></span>, on the first page under "Basic information", you should find "Global preferences: <kbd class="nowrap button" title="This is not a clickable button; it illustrates the button one should find." style="padding:.2em .6em; border:1px solid; border-color:#AAA #555 #555 #AAA; border-radius:3px; background-color: #F2F2F2; color: #000; background-image: -moz-linear-gradient(top, #FCFCFC, #E0E0E0); background-image: -o-linear-gradient(top, #FCFCFC, #E0E0E0); background-image: -webkit-linear-gradient(top, #FCFCFC, #E0E0E0); background-image: linear-gradient(to bottom, #FCFCFC, #E0E0E0); font-family:sans-serif;">Set your global preferences</kbd><br/>Preferences set via the global preferences page will apply to all wikis." --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 21:07, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-08-04T21:07:00.000Z|Ched|2019-08-04T21:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ched|2019-08-04T21:17:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-08-04T21:07:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T21:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-08-04T21:07:00.000Z|Ched|2019-08-04T21:02:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ched|2019-08-04T21:17:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-08-04T21:07:00.000Z"></span>Thank you Redrose64.  I noticed that now I have the option to override individual settings now, and that the gadgets aren't available globally.   It's still enough to make any efforts outside en-wp a bit more similar.  Appreciate the help folks. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ched" title="User:Ched">Ched</a></b> : <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ched" title="User talk:Ched"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;background:#0000fa;"> ? </span></a></span></small>   —  21:17, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ched|2019-08-04T21:17:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-08-04T21:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-08-04T21:39:00.000Z|Ched|2019-08-04T21:17:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T21:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ched&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-08-04T21:39:00.000Z|Ched|2019-08-04T21:17:00.000Z"></span>No, gadgets are local to each wiki. But if you know how to use <code>@import</code> in CSS and <code>mw.loader.load</code> in JavaScript, it's possible to use a gadget from one wiki on another wiki. For example, there are no gadgets at <a href="https://cy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbennig:Preferences" class="extiw" title="cy:Arbennig:Preferences">Wicipedia Cymraeg</a> - yet I use one there, by means of <a href="https://cy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defnyddiwr:Redrose64/common.js" class="extiw" title="cy:Defnyddiwr:Redrose64/common.js">cy:Defnyddiwr:Redrose64/common.js</a>. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 21:39, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-08-04T21:39:00.000Z|Ched|2019-08-04T21:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-04T21:55:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-08-04T21:39:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T21:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-08-04T21:39:00.000Z|Ched|2019-08-04T21:17:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Izno|2019-08-04T21:55:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-08-04T21:39:00.000Z"></span>Which actually can be extended by addition to your global CSS and JS pages at e.g. <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Izno/global.css" class="extiw" title="meta:User:Izno/global.css">meta:User:Izno/global.css</a> and <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Izno/global.js" class="extiw" title="meta:User:Izno/global.js">meta:User:Izno/global.js</a>. You can probably load certain gadgets optionally on certain wikis with a little more know how. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 21:55, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-04T21:55:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-08-04T21:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T21:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Izno&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Izno|2019-08-04T21:55:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-08-04T21:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ched|2019-08-04T21:17:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-08-04T21:07:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ched|2019-08-04T21:02:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-04T20:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id="Issue_with_Color_templates.2C_right_side_overflow"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Issue_with_Color_templates,_right_side_overflow" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Issue_with_Color_templates,_right_side_overflow|2019-08-04T16:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-08-04T16:32:00.000Z|Issue_with_Color_templates,_right_side_overflow&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Issue_with_Color_templates,_right_side_overflow|2019-08-04T16:32:00.000Z"></span>Issue with Color templates, right side overflow<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Issue_with_Color_templates,_right_side_overflow|2019-08-04T16:32:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JoeHebda|2019-08-04T16:32:00.000Z|Issue_with_Color_templates,_right_side_overflow"></span>Greetings, While viewing article <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue" title="Blue">Blue</a>, it has a template link for <i>{{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Shades_of_blue" title="Template:Shades of blue">Shades of blue</a>}}</i> 
 which I noticed is overflowing outside the box on the right side. Next, I clicked on <i>{{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Shades_of_cyan" title="Template:Shades of cyan">Shades of cyan</a>}}</i> with the same issue. So I successfully added &lt;br> to keep the lines within the cyan template box. 
-</p><p>Then I found <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Shades_of_color_templates" title="Category:Shades of color templates">Category:Shades of color templates</a> and see more templates; most having the same overflow on right side. I see that <i>{{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Shades_of_color" title="Template:Shades of color">Shades of color</a>}}</i> has a width value of 100-percent, but I don't know if reducing that number is the answer. Asking for help from a "Template Expert" since it's way beyond anything I would know how to do correctly. Thanks, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JoeHebda" title="User:JoeHebda">JoeHebda</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoeHebda" title="User talk:JoeHebda">talk</a>) 16:32, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-08-04T16:32:00.000Z|Issue_with_Color_templates,_right_side_overflow&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Anomie|2019-08-04T19:11:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-08-04T16:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T16:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JoeHebda&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JoeHebda|2019-08-04T16:32:00.000Z|Issue_with_Color_templates,_right_side_overflow"></span>
+</p><p>Then I found <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Shades_of_color_templates" title="Category:Shades of color templates">Category:Shades of color templates</a> and see more templates; most having the same overflow on right side. I see that <i>{{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Shades_of_color" title="Template:Shades of color">Shades of color</a>}}</i> has a width value of 100-percent, but I don't know if reducing that number is the answer. Asking for help from a "Template Expert" since it's way beyond anything I would know how to do correctly. Thanks, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JoeHebda" title="User:JoeHebda">JoeHebda</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoeHebda" title="User talk:JoeHebda">talk</a>) 16:32, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-08-04T16:32:00.000Z|Issue_with_Color_templates,_right_side_overflow&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Anomie|2019-08-04T19:11:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-08-04T16:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T16:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JoeHebda&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JoeHebda|2019-08-04T16:32:00.000Z|Issue_with_Color_templates,_right_side_overflow"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Anomie|2019-08-04T19:11:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-08-04T16:32:00.000Z"></span>The problem comes from the fact that {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Navbox" title="Template:Navbox">navbox</a>}} (in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:Navbox" title="Module:Navbox">Module:Navbox</a>) applies the class "nowraplinks" to the table, preventing all the links from wrapping. Rather than adding <code class="nowrap" style="">&lt;br></code> all over the place, there should probably be a way for {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Shades_of_color" title="Template:Shades of color">Shades of color</a>}} to somehow avoid the use of that class in the first place. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anomie" title="User:Anomie">Anomie</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anomie" title="User talk:Anomie">⚔</a> 19:11, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Anomie|2019-08-04T19:11:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-08-04T16:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|WOSlinker|2019-08-04T21:10:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-08-04T19:11:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T19:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Anomie&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Anomie|2019-08-04T19:11:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-08-04T16:32:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|WOSlinker|2019-08-04T21:10:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-08-04T19:11:00.000Z"></span>Have a look at <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Shades_of_color/sandbox&amp;diff=909349817&amp;oldid=909349755">this sandbox change</a> and compare the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Shades_of_color/testcases" title="Template:Shades of color/testcases">test cases</a> and see if it's any better. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:WOSlinker" title="User:WOSlinker">WOSlinker</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:WOSlinker" title="User talk:WOSlinker">talk</a>) 21:10, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|WOSlinker|2019-08-04T21:10:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-08-04T19:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-08-04T22:36:00.000Z|WOSlinker|2019-08-04T21:10:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T21:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;WOSlinker&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|WOSlinker|2019-08-04T21:10:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-08-04T19:11:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JoeHebda|2019-08-04T22:36:00.000Z|WOSlinker|2019-08-04T21:10:00.000Z"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/27px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/36px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> <b>Done</b> - Thanks <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anomie" title="User:Anomie">Anomie</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:WOSlinker" title="User:WOSlinker">WOSlinker</a> for your help! Best solution ever. I changed the {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Shades_of_color" title="Template:Shades of color">Shades of color</a>}}, added the "nowraplinks"; checked "Shades of" for Red, Blue, Yellow all of which are now good-no overflow. Lastly, I updated Cyan with undo of my prior "br" changes. Cheers! <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JoeHebda" title="User:JoeHebda">JoeHebda</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoeHebda" title="User talk:JoeHebda">talk</a>) 22:36, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-08-04T22:36:00.000Z|WOSlinker|2019-08-04T21:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T22:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JoeHebda&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JoeHebda|2019-08-04T22:36:00.000Z|WOSlinker|2019-08-04T21:10:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Anomie|2019-08-04T19:11:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-08-04T16:32:00.000Z"></span>The problem comes from the fact that {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Navbox" title="Template:Navbox">navbox</a>}} (in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:Navbox" title="Module:Navbox">Module:Navbox</a>) applies the class "nowraplinks" to the table, preventing all the links from wrapping. Rather than adding <code class="nowrap" style="">&lt;br></code> all over the place, there should probably be a way for {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Shades_of_color" title="Template:Shades of color">Shades of color</a>}} to somehow avoid the use of that class in the first place. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anomie" title="User:Anomie">Anomie</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anomie" title="User talk:Anomie">⚔</a> 19:11, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Anomie|2019-08-04T19:11:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-08-04T16:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|WOSlinker|2019-08-04T21:10:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-08-04T19:11:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T19:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Anomie&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Anomie|2019-08-04T19:11:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-08-04T16:32:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|WOSlinker|2019-08-04T21:10:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-08-04T19:11:00.000Z"></span>Have a look at <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Shades_of_color/sandbox&amp;diff=909349817&amp;oldid=909349755">this sandbox change</a> and compare the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Shades_of_color/testcases" title="Template:Shades of color/testcases">test cases</a> and see if it's any better. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:WOSlinker" title="User:WOSlinker">WOSlinker</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:WOSlinker" title="User talk:WOSlinker">talk</a>) 21:10, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|WOSlinker|2019-08-04T21:10:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-08-04T19:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-08-04T22:36:00.000Z|WOSlinker|2019-08-04T21:10:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T21:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;WOSlinker&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|WOSlinker|2019-08-04T21:10:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-08-04T19:11:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JoeHebda|2019-08-04T22:36:00.000Z|WOSlinker|2019-08-04T21:10:00.000Z"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/27px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/36px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> <b>Done</b> - Thanks <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anomie" title="User:Anomie">Anomie</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:WOSlinker" title="User:WOSlinker">WOSlinker</a> for your help! Best solution ever. I changed the {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Shades_of_color" title="Template:Shades of color">Shades of color</a>}}, added the "nowraplinks"; checked "Shades of" for Red, Blue, Yellow all of which are now good-no overflow. Lastly, I updated Cyan with undo of my prior "br" changes. Cheers! <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JoeHebda" title="User:JoeHebda">JoeHebda</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoeHebda" title="User talk:JoeHebda">talk</a>) 22:36, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-08-04T22:36:00.000Z|WOSlinker|2019-08-04T21:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T22:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JoeHebda&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JoeHebda|2019-08-04T22:36:00.000Z|WOSlinker|2019-08-04T21:10:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Visual_editor_garbling_markup" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Visual_editor_garbling_markup|2019-08-01T19:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-01T19:07:00.000Z|Visual_editor_garbling_markup&quot;,&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-08-04T20:04:00.000Z|Visual_editor_garbling_markup&quot;,&quot;h|More_VisualEditor_problems|Visual_editor_garbling_markup|2019-08-04T12:15:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Visual_editor_garbling_markup|2019-08-01T19:07:00.000Z"></span>Visual editor garbling markup<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Visual_editor_garbling_markup|2019-08-01T19:07:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-01T19:07:00.000Z|Visual_editor_garbling_markup"></span>For some reason, in <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lunar_Crater_volcanic_field&amp;diff=908897103&amp;oldid=908895211">this edit</a> part of the markup was replaced by ... snowmen? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jo-Jo_Eumerus" title="User:Jo-Jo Eumerus">Jo-Jo Eumerus</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jo-Jo_Eumerus" title="User talk:Jo-Jo Eumerus">talk</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Jo-Jo_Eumerus" title="Special:CentralAuth/Jo-Jo Eumerus">contributions</a>) 19:07, 1 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-01T19:07:00.000Z|Visual_editor_garbling_markup&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Galobtter|2019-08-01T20:36:00.000Z|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-01T19:07:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-01T19:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Jo-Jo Eumerus&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-01T19:07:00.000Z|Visual_editor_garbling_markup"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-01T19:07:00.000Z|Visual_editor_garbling_markup"></span>For some reason, in <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lunar_Crater_volcanic_field&amp;diff=908897103&amp;oldid=908895211">this edit</a> part of the markup was replaced by ... snowmen? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jo-Jo_Eumerus" title="User:Jo-Jo Eumerus">Jo-Jo Eumerus</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jo-Jo_Eumerus" title="User talk:Jo-Jo Eumerus">talk</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Jo-Jo_Eumerus" title="Special:CentralAuth/Jo-Jo Eumerus">contributions</a>) 19:07, 1 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-01T19:07:00.000Z|Visual_editor_garbling_markup&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Galobtter|2019-08-01T20:36:00.000Z|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-01T19:07:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-01T19:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Jo-Jo Eumerus&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-01T19:07:00.000Z|Visual_editor_garbling_markup"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Galobtter|2019-08-01T20:36:00.000Z|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-01T19:07:00.000Z"></span>Seems VE producing snowmen is quite a regular issue per <a class="external text" href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/search/query/1PwUTxbMATfI/#R">phab search</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Galobtter" title="User:Galobtter">Galobtter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Galobtter" title="User talk:Galobtter">pingó mió</a>) 20:36, 1 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Galobtter|2019-08-01T20:36:00.000Z|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-01T19:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Anomie|2019-08-01T20:51:00.000Z|Galobtter|2019-08-01T20:36:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-01T20:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Galobtter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Galobtter|2019-08-01T20:36:00.000Z|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-01T19:07:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Anomie|2019-08-01T20:51:00.000Z|Galobtter|2019-08-01T20:36:00.000Z"></span>IIRC VE uses the snowman as some sort of error marker. If you can give instructions for reproducing it, you should file a task about it. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anomie" title="User:Anomie">Anomie</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anomie" title="User talk:Anomie">⚔</a> 20:51, 1 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Anomie|2019-08-01T20:51:00.000Z|Galobtter|2019-08-01T20:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-08-01T20:58:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-08-01T20:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-01T21:43:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-08-01T20:51:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-01T20:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Anomie&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Anomie|2019-08-01T20:51:00.000Z|Galobtter|2019-08-01T20:36:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|קיפודנחש|2019-08-01T20:58:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-08-01T20:51:00.000Z"></span>indeed. search found 2 articles with snowman on enwiki: <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Becky_Baeling" title="Becky Baeling">Becky Baeling</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaipur_Rugs" title="Jaipur Rugs">Jaipur Rugs</a> (excluding couple of articles where it assumed to be intentional). peace - <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%93%D7%A0%D7%97%D7%A9" title="User:קיפודנחש">קיפודנחש (aka kipod)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%93%D7%A0%D7%97%D7%A9" title="User talk:קיפודנחש">talk</a>) 20:58, 1 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-08-01T20:58:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-08-01T20:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-01T20:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|קיפודנחש|2019-08-01T20:58:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-08-01T20:51:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-01T21:43:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-08-01T20:51:00.000Z"></span>The snowman issue happened after I copied text from one section to the other, it didn't move and was instead replaced by snowmen. Before that, both the template and image adding functions hanged at least once, forcing me to close-and-reopen the browser tab to un-hang it. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jo-Jo_Eumerus" title="User:Jo-Jo Eumerus">Jo-Jo Eumerus</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jo-Jo_Eumerus" title="User talk:Jo-Jo Eumerus">talk</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Jo-Jo_Eumerus" title="Special:CentralAuth/Jo-Jo Eumerus">contributions</a>) 21:43, 1 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-01T21:43:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-08-01T20:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-08-01T22:02:00.000Z|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-01T21:43:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-01T21:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Jo-Jo Eumerus&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-01T21:43:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-08-01T20:51:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|קיפודנחש|2019-08-01T22:02:00.000Z|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-01T21:43:00.000Z"></span>guess: this has nothing to do with VE specifically. it's Aug 1, and the code version was updated today (see <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Version" title="Special:Version">Special:Version</a>). during and shortly after update, strange non-reproducible bugs tend to pop up, usually as a result of browser running mix of sources from old and new versions. putting it a bit differently, the browser sometimes uses cached source file from yesterday's version in conjunction with other, fresh files from today's. complete refresh (usually Ctrl-refresh, but may depend on browser) will update all the sources to the new version and solve the issue. unfortunately, closing and opening the browser, or doing a simple refresh, isn't always enough. it used to be very common issue around the time of software update. i was under the impression that it was solved, but recently i saw several new cases of "Inexplicit bugs on the day of SW update". peace - <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%93%D7%A0%D7%97%D7%A9" title="User:קיפודנחש">קיפודנחש (aka kipod)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%93%D7%A0%D7%97%D7%A9" title="User talk:קיפודנחש">talk</a>) 22:02, 1 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-08-01T22:02:00.000Z|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-01T21:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-01T22:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|קיפודנחש|2019-08-01T22:02:00.000Z|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-01T21:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<p><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jo-Jo_Eumerus" title="User:Jo-Jo Eumerus"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nyttend|2019-08-04T20:04:00.000Z|Visual_editor_garbling_markup"></span>Jo-Jo Eumerus</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Galobtter" title="User:Galobtter">Galobtter</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anomie" title="User:Anomie">Anomie</a>, and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%93%D7%A0%D7%97%D7%A9" title="User:קיפודנחש">קיפודנחש</a>, please see <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E2%98%83" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:☃">Wikipedia:☃</a>.  For most of its history it's been a redirect to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SNOW" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SNOW">WP:SNOW</a>, but from 2014 until 2016 and from a few minutes ago until the present, it's been a redirect to a VE feedback page.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nyttend" title="User talk:Nyttend">talk</a>) 20:04, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-08-04T20:04:00.000Z|Visual_editor_garbling_markup&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T20:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nyttend&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nyttend|2019-08-04T20:04:00.000Z|Visual_editor_garbling_markup"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Galobtter|2019-08-01T20:36:00.000Z|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-01T19:07:00.000Z"></span>Seems VE producing snowmen is quite a regular issue per <a class="external text" href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/search/query/1PwUTxbMATfI/#R">phab search</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Galobtter" title="User:Galobtter">Galobtter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Galobtter" title="User talk:Galobtter">pingó mió</a>) 20:36, 1 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Galobtter|2019-08-01T20:36:00.000Z|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-01T19:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Anomie|2019-08-01T20:51:00.000Z|Galobtter|2019-08-01T20:36:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-01T20:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Galobtter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Galobtter|2019-08-01T20:36:00.000Z|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-01T19:07:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Anomie|2019-08-01T20:51:00.000Z|Galobtter|2019-08-01T20:36:00.000Z"></span>IIRC VE uses the snowman as some sort of error marker. If you can give instructions for reproducing it, you should file a task about it. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anomie" title="User:Anomie">Anomie</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anomie" title="User talk:Anomie">⚔</a> 20:51, 1 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Anomie|2019-08-01T20:51:00.000Z|Galobtter|2019-08-01T20:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-08-01T20:58:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-08-01T20:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-01T21:43:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-08-01T20:51:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-01T20:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Anomie&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Anomie|2019-08-01T20:51:00.000Z|Galobtter|2019-08-01T20:36:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|קיפודנחש|2019-08-01T20:58:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-08-01T20:51:00.000Z"></span>indeed. search found 2 articles with snowman on enwiki: <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Becky_Baeling" title="Becky Baeling">Becky Baeling</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaipur_Rugs" title="Jaipur Rugs">Jaipur Rugs</a> (excluding couple of articles where it assumed to be intentional). peace - <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%93%D7%A0%D7%97%D7%A9" title="User:קיפודנחש">קיפודנחש (aka kipod)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%93%D7%A0%D7%97%D7%A9" title="User talk:קיפודנחש">talk</a>) 20:58, 1 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-08-01T20:58:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-08-01T20:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-01T20:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|קיפודנחש|2019-08-01T20:58:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-08-01T20:51:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-01T21:43:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-08-01T20:51:00.000Z"></span>The snowman issue happened after I copied text from one section to the other, it didn't move and was instead replaced by snowmen. Before that, both the template and image adding functions hanged at least once, forcing me to close-and-reopen the browser tab to un-hang it. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jo-Jo_Eumerus" title="User:Jo-Jo Eumerus">Jo-Jo Eumerus</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jo-Jo_Eumerus" title="User talk:Jo-Jo Eumerus">talk</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Jo-Jo_Eumerus" title="Special:CentralAuth/Jo-Jo Eumerus">contributions</a>) 21:43, 1 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-01T21:43:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-08-01T20:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-08-01T22:02:00.000Z|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-01T21:43:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-01T21:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Jo-Jo Eumerus&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-01T21:43:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-08-01T20:51:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|קיפודנחש|2019-08-01T22:02:00.000Z|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-01T21:43:00.000Z"></span>guess: this has nothing to do with VE specifically. it's Aug 1, and the code version was updated today (see <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Version" title="Special:Version">Special:Version</a>). during and shortly after update, strange non-reproducible bugs tend to pop up, usually as a result of browser running mix of sources from old and new versions. putting it a bit differently, the browser sometimes uses cached source file from yesterday's version in conjunction with other, fresh files from today's. complete refresh (usually Ctrl-refresh, but may depend on browser) will update all the sources to the new version and solve the issue. unfortunately, closing and opening the browser, or doing a simple refresh, isn't always enough. it used to be very common issue around the time of software update. i was under the impression that it was solved, but recently i saw several new cases of "Inexplicit bugs on the day of SW update". peace - <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%93%D7%A0%D7%97%D7%A9" title="User:קיפודנחש">קיפודנחש (aka kipod)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%93%D7%A0%D7%97%D7%A9" title="User talk:קיפודנחש">talk</a>) 22:02, 1 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-08-01T22:02:00.000Z|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-01T21:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-01T22:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|קיפודנחש|2019-08-01T22:02:00.000Z|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-01T21:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<p><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jo-Jo_Eumerus" title="User:Jo-Jo Eumerus"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nyttend|2019-08-04T20:04:00.000Z|Visual_editor_garbling_markup"></span>Jo-Jo Eumerus</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Galobtter" title="User:Galobtter">Galobtter</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anomie" title="User:Anomie">Anomie</a>, and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%93%D7%A0%D7%97%D7%A9" title="User:קיפודנחש">קיפודנחש</a>, please see <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E2%98%83" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:☃">Wikipedia:☃</a>.  For most of its history it's been a redirect to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SNOW" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SNOW">WP:SNOW</a>, but from 2014 until 2016 and from a few minutes ago until the present, it's been a redirect to a VE feedback page.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nyttend" title="User talk:Nyttend">talk</a>) 20:04, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-08-04T20:04:00.000Z|Visual_editor_garbling_markup&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T20:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nyttend&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nyttend|2019-08-04T20:04:00.000Z|Visual_editor_garbling_markup"></span>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-04T12:15:00.000Z|More_VisualEditor_problems"></span>Well, it's been three days since the update and when I was trying to add a list of sources to use for <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Rock_Desert_volcanic_field" title="Black Rock Desert volcanic field">Black Rock Desert volcanic field</a> through VE and it kept 404'ing. It also didn't allow for any or any other edit, when I force-loaded the whole page it just lost the whole edit. What is up with this? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jo-Jo_Eumerus" title="User:Jo-Jo Eumerus">Jo-Jo Eumerus</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jo-Jo_Eumerus" title="User talk:Jo-Jo Eumerus">talk</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Jo-Jo_Eumerus" title="Special:CentralAuth/Jo-Jo Eumerus">contributions</a>) 12:15, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-04T12:15:00.000Z|More_VisualEditor_problems&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-08-04T14:23:00.000Z|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-04T12:15:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T12:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Jo-Jo Eumerus&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-04T12:15:00.000Z|More_VisualEditor_problems"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-04T12:15:00.000Z|More_VisualEditor_problems"></span>Well, it's been three days since the update and when I was trying to add a list of sources to use for <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Rock_Desert_volcanic_field" title="Black Rock Desert volcanic field">Black Rock Desert volcanic field</a> through VE and it kept 404'ing. It also didn't allow for any or any other edit, when I force-loaded the whole page it just lost the whole edit. What is up with this? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jo-Jo_Eumerus" title="User:Jo-Jo Eumerus">Jo-Jo Eumerus</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jo-Jo_Eumerus" title="User talk:Jo-Jo Eumerus">talk</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Jo-Jo_Eumerus" title="Special:CentralAuth/Jo-Jo Eumerus">contributions</a>) 12:15, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-04T12:15:00.000Z|More_VisualEditor_problems&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-08-04T14:23:00.000Z|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-04T12:15:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T12:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Jo-Jo Eumerus&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-04T12:15:00.000Z|More_VisualEditor_problems"></span>
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-<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jo-Jo_Eumerus" title="User:Jo-Jo Eumerus"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-08-04T14:23:00.000Z|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-04T12:15:00.000Z"></span>Jo-Jo Eumerus</a>, even I <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)&amp;diff=909276820&amp;oldid=909268933">had</a> the same issue, hours back but after a forced-new-edit (which lost the prev. data), it started to work fine. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Winged_Blades_of_Godric" title="User:Winged Blades of Godric"><span style="color: red">∯</span><span style="font-family:Verdana"><b style="color:#070">WBG</b></span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Winged_Blades_of_Godric" title="User talk:Winged Blades of Godric"><sup><span style="color:#00F">converse</span></sup></a> 14:23, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-08-04T14:23:00.000Z|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-04T12:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Woodlot|2019-08-04T17:22:00.000Z|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-08-04T14:23:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T14:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Winged Blades of Godric&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-08-04T14:23:00.000Z|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-04T12:15:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Woodlot|2019-08-04T17:22:00.000Z|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-08-04T14:23:00.000Z"></span>For the past several days, I have been unable to convert bare url references using the Visual Editor. Normally, while in Visual Editor mode, I can click on a numbered bare url reference and a "convert box" appears on screen. Well, the "convert box" still pops up on screen, but there is no longer a "convert" button inside the box. Does not matter if I am using Google Chrome, Microsoft Edge, or Mozilla Firefox browsers; Visual Editor will no longer convert bare url's. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Woodlot" title="User:Woodlot">Woodlot</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Woodlot" title="User talk:Woodlot">talk</a>) 17:22, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Woodlot|2019-08-04T17:22:00.000Z|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-08-04T14:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-04T22:45:00.000Z|Woodlot|2019-08-04T17:22:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T17:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Woodlot&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Woodlot|2019-08-04T17:22:00.000Z|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-08-04T14:23:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RoySmith|2019-08-04T22:45:00.000Z|Woodlot|2019-08-04T17:22:00.000Z"></span>Yup, I'm seeing the same thing.  For example, reference 1 of <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Rabbit_of_Paris_M%C3%A9tro&amp;oldid=909332927">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Rabbit_of_Paris_M%C3%A9tro&amp;oldid=909332927</a>  -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> 22:45, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-04T22:45:00.000Z|Woodlot|2019-08-04T17:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T22:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RoySmith&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RoySmith|2019-08-04T22:45:00.000Z|Woodlot|2019-08-04T17:22:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jo-Jo_Eumerus" title="User:Jo-Jo Eumerus"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-08-04T14:23:00.000Z|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-04T12:15:00.000Z"></span>Jo-Jo Eumerus</a>, even I <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)&amp;diff=909276820&amp;oldid=909268933">had</a> the same issue, hours back but after a forced-new-edit (which lost the prev. data), it started to work fine. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Winged_Blades_of_Godric" title="User:Winged Blades of Godric"><span style="color: red">∯</span><span style="font-family:Verdana"><b style="color:#070">WBG</b></span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Winged_Blades_of_Godric" title="User talk:Winged Blades of Godric"><sup><span style="color:#00F">converse</span></sup></a> 14:23, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-08-04T14:23:00.000Z|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-04T12:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Woodlot|2019-08-04T17:22:00.000Z|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-08-04T14:23:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T14:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Winged Blades of Godric&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-08-04T14:23:00.000Z|Jo-Jo Eumerus|2019-08-04T12:15:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Woodlot|2019-08-04T17:22:00.000Z|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-08-04T14:23:00.000Z"></span>For the past several days, I have been unable to convert bare url references using the Visual Editor. Normally, while in Visual Editor mode, I can click on a numbered bare url reference and a "convert box" appears on screen. Well, the "convert box" still pops up on screen, but there is no longer a "convert" button inside the box. Does not matter if I am using Google Chrome, Microsoft Edge, or Mozilla Firefox browsers; Visual Editor will no longer convert bare url's. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Woodlot" title="User:Woodlot">Woodlot</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Woodlot" title="User talk:Woodlot">talk</a>) 17:22, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Woodlot|2019-08-04T17:22:00.000Z|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-08-04T14:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-04T22:45:00.000Z|Woodlot|2019-08-04T17:22:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T17:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Woodlot&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Woodlot|2019-08-04T17:22:00.000Z|Winged Blades of Godric|2019-08-04T14:23:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RoySmith|2019-08-04T22:45:00.000Z|Woodlot|2019-08-04T17:22:00.000Z"></span>Yup, I'm seeing the same thing.  For example, reference 1 of <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Rabbit_of_Paris_M%C3%A9tro&amp;oldid=909332927">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Rabbit_of_Paris_M%C3%A9tro&amp;oldid=909332927</a>  -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> 22:45, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-04T22:45:00.000Z|Woodlot|2019-08-04T17:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T22:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RoySmith&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RoySmith|2019-08-04T22:45:00.000Z|Woodlot|2019-08-04T17:22:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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 </p><h2><span id="SineBot_on_strike.3F"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="SineBot_on_strike?" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|SineBot_on_strike?|2019-08-04T17:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RHaworth|2019-08-04T17:04:00.000Z|SineBot_on_strike?&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|SineBot_on_strike?|2019-08-04T17:04:00.000Z"></span>SineBot on strike?<span data-mw-comment-end="h|SineBot_on_strike?|2019-08-04T17:04:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RHaworth|2019-08-04T17:04:00.000Z|SineBot_on_strike?"></span>The <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SineBot" title="User:SineBot">SineBot</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SineBot" title="User talk:SineBot">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/SineBot" title="Special:Contributions/SineBot">contribs</a>) has not made any edits since <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/SineBot" title="Special:Contributions/SineBot">2019 Jul 25</a>. What has happened.? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RHaworth" title="User:RHaworth">RHaworth</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RHaworth" title="User talk:RHaworth">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/RHaworth" title="Special:Contributions/RHaworth">contribs</a>) 17:04, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RHaworth|2019-08-04T17:04:00.000Z|SineBot_on_strike?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-08-04T21:04:00.000Z|RHaworth|2019-08-04T17:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Enterprisey|2019-08-05T09:28:00.000Z|RHaworth|2019-08-04T17:04:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T17:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RHaworth&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RHaworth|2019-08-04T17:04:00.000Z|SineBot_on_strike?"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RHaworth|2019-08-04T17:04:00.000Z|SineBot_on_strike?"></span>The <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SineBot" title="User:SineBot">SineBot</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SineBot" title="User talk:SineBot">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/SineBot" title="Special:Contributions/SineBot">contribs</a>) has not made any edits since <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/SineBot" title="Special:Contributions/SineBot">2019 Jul 25</a>. What has happened.? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RHaworth" title="User:RHaworth">RHaworth</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RHaworth" title="User talk:RHaworth">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/RHaworth" title="Special:Contributions/RHaworth">contribs</a>) 17:04, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RHaworth|2019-08-04T17:04:00.000Z|SineBot_on_strike?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-08-04T21:04:00.000Z|RHaworth|2019-08-04T17:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Enterprisey|2019-08-05T09:28:00.000Z|RHaworth|2019-08-04T17:04:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T17:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RHaworth&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RHaworth|2019-08-04T17:04:00.000Z|SineBot_on_strike?"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nyttend|2019-08-04T21:04:00.000Z|RHaworth|2019-08-04T17:04:00.000Z"></span>The operator, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Slakr" title="User:Slakr">User:Slakr</a>, hasn't edited since 22 July.  Maybe something crashed with the bot and Slakr hasn't noticed the problem yet?  Or maybe a MediaWiki software change affected something on which the bot depended, making it unable to function?  I doubt there's any way to identify the precise problem until Slakr returns to activity — since the source code has not been published, only the operator knows how the bot works, and only the operator can figure out what critical processes may have been broken.  And of course, only the operator can check to see if the operator's personal computer has stopped working properly at home.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nyttend" title="User talk:Nyttend">talk</a>) 21:04, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-08-04T21:04:00.000Z|RHaworth|2019-08-04T17:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T21:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nyttend&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nyttend|2019-08-04T21:04:00.000Z|RHaworth|2019-08-04T17:04:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Enterprisey|2019-08-05T09:28:00.000Z|RHaworth|2019-08-04T17:04:00.000Z"></span>Can't find any sinebot stuff on Toolforge; I could be looking in the wrong place, of course, but that doesn't bode well for someone else being able to take over. While I was poking around, I found a project called <a class="external text" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/admin/tool/mh-signbot">mh-signbot</a>, maintained by <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Zppix" title="User:Zppix">Zppix</a> and a couple of other people, that seems to have some promising-looking Python code. I will read it more closely and look into running it (and someone else isn't already set up to run it, of course). <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Enterprisey" title="User:Enterprisey">Enterprisey</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Enterprisey" title="User talk:Enterprisey">talk!</a>) 09:28, 5 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Enterprisey|2019-08-05T09:28:00.000Z|RHaworth|2019-08-04T17:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Enterprisey|2019-08-05T09:31:00.000Z|Enterprisey|2019-08-05T09:28:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-05T09:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Enterprisey&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Enterprisey|2019-08-05T09:28:00.000Z|RHaworth|2019-08-04T17:04:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Enterprisey|2019-08-05T09:31:00.000Z|Enterprisey|2019-08-05T09:28:00.000Z"></span>Oh, that's <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/SignBot" class="extiw" title="commons:Special:Contributions/SignBot">the Commons signbot</a>, operated by <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Zhuyifei1999" title="User:Zhuyifei1999">Zhuyifei1999</a>. So we might be able to get some help while this outage continues. (Also, we now definitely know that the code works.) I've pinged 'em over on Commons. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Enterprisey" title="User:Enterprisey">Enterprisey</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Enterprisey" title="User talk:Enterprisey">talk!</a>) 09:31, 5 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Enterprisey|2019-08-05T09:31:00.000Z|Enterprisey|2019-08-05T09:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Zhuyifei1999|2019-08-05T15:26:00.000Z|Enterprisey|2019-08-05T09:31:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-05T09:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Enterprisey&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Enterprisey|2019-08-05T09:31:00.000Z|Enterprisey|2019-08-05T09:28:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nyttend|2019-08-04T21:04:00.000Z|RHaworth|2019-08-04T17:04:00.000Z"></span>The operator, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Slakr" title="User:Slakr">User:Slakr</a>, hasn't edited since 22 July.  Maybe something crashed with the bot and Slakr hasn't noticed the problem yet?  Or maybe a MediaWiki software change affected something on which the bot depended, making it unable to function?  I doubt there's any way to identify the precise problem until Slakr returns to activity — since the source code has not been published, only the operator knows how the bot works, and only the operator can figure out what critical processes may have been broken.  And of course, only the operator can check to see if the operator's personal computer has stopped working properly at home.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nyttend" title="User talk:Nyttend">talk</a>) 21:04, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-08-04T21:04:00.000Z|RHaworth|2019-08-04T17:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T21:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nyttend&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nyttend|2019-08-04T21:04:00.000Z|RHaworth|2019-08-04T17:04:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Enterprisey|2019-08-05T09:28:00.000Z|RHaworth|2019-08-04T17:04:00.000Z"></span>Can't find any sinebot stuff on Toolforge; I could be looking in the wrong place, of course, but that doesn't bode well for someone else being able to take over. While I was poking around, I found a project called <a class="external text" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/admin/tool/mh-signbot">mh-signbot</a>, maintained by <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Zppix" title="User:Zppix">Zppix</a> and a couple of other people, that seems to have some promising-looking Python code. I will read it more closely and look into running it (and someone else isn't already set up to run it, of course). <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Enterprisey" title="User:Enterprisey">Enterprisey</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Enterprisey" title="User talk:Enterprisey">talk!</a>) 09:28, 5 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Enterprisey|2019-08-05T09:28:00.000Z|RHaworth|2019-08-04T17:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Enterprisey|2019-08-05T09:31:00.000Z|Enterprisey|2019-08-05T09:28:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-05T09:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Enterprisey&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Enterprisey|2019-08-05T09:28:00.000Z|RHaworth|2019-08-04T17:04:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Enterprisey|2019-08-05T09:31:00.000Z|Enterprisey|2019-08-05T09:28:00.000Z"></span>Oh, that's <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/SignBot" class="extiw" title="commons:Special:Contributions/SignBot">the Commons signbot</a>, operated by <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Zhuyifei1999" title="User:Zhuyifei1999">Zhuyifei1999</a>. So we might be able to get some help while this outage continues. (Also, we now definitely know that the code works.) I've pinged 'em over on Commons. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Enterprisey" title="User:Enterprisey">Enterprisey</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Enterprisey" title="User talk:Enterprisey">talk!</a>) 09:31, 5 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Enterprisey|2019-08-05T09:31:00.000Z|Enterprisey|2019-08-05T09:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Zhuyifei1999|2019-08-05T15:26:00.000Z|Enterprisey|2019-08-05T09:31:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-05T09:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Enterprisey&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Enterprisey|2019-08-05T09:31:00.000Z|Enterprisey|2019-08-05T09:28:00.000Z"></span>
 <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Zhuyifei1999|2019-08-05T15:26:00.000Z|Enterprisey|2019-08-05T09:31:00.000Z"></span>mh-signbot was a fork by them to operate on Miraheze, which didn't work out at the time due to them lacking eventstreams, no idea about its current state. There are also quite a few other forks, the one I know best is <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/Count-Count/countcountbot/blob/master/signbot.py">dewiki fork</a> (<a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contribs/CountCountBot" class="extiw" title="de:Special:Contribs/CountCountBot">de:Special:Contribs/CountCountBot</a>), which I haven't had the time to look into closely and upstream any changes, and is worsened by the fact that I did a restructure of the code right after they forked it, but before I noticed the fork... Unfortunately, the code is doomed to <a href="https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/525179" class="extiw" title="gerrit:525179">deadlock at some point and needs manual restarting</a>.</dd>
-<dd>As for running it here, I would very much prefer a local bot op to operate it. There are a few site-local customizations that needs changing. The latest code of upstream Commons one is on <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://gist.github.com/zhuyifei1999/49af65a7f07fa950a381171ea037135e">gist</a>. I'm happy to help if you run into technical issues. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Zhuyifei1999" title="User:Zhuyifei1999">Zhuyifei1999</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Zhuyifei1999" title="User talk:Zhuyifei1999">talk</a>) 15:26, 5 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Zhuyifei1999|2019-08-05T15:26:00.000Z|Enterprisey|2019-08-05T09:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-05T15:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Zhuyifei1999&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Zhuyifei1999|2019-08-05T15:26:00.000Z|Enterprisey|2019-08-05T09:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dd>As for running it here, I would very much prefer a local bot op to operate it. There are a few site-local customizations that needs changing. The latest code of upstream Commons one is on <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://gist.github.com/zhuyifei1999/49af65a7f07fa950a381171ea037135e">gist</a>. I'm happy to help if you run into technical issues. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Zhuyifei1999" title="User:Zhuyifei1999">Zhuyifei1999</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Zhuyifei1999" title="User talk:Zhuyifei1999">talk</a>) 15:26, 5 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Zhuyifei1999|2019-08-05T15:26:00.000Z|Enterprisey|2019-08-05T09:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-05T15:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Zhuyifei1999&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Zhuyifei1999|2019-08-05T15:26:00.000Z|Enterprisey|2019-08-05T09:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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-<p>"<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo" class="mw-redirect" title="Foo">Foo</a>", a regular link, is perfectly clickable, and takes me to that article; but <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar" title="Bar"><span style="color: green; text-decoration: inherit; -moz-text-decoration-color: green; text-decoration-color: green;">Bar</span></a> (which is <code>{{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Colored_link" title="Template:Colored link">colored link</a>|green|Bar}}</code>) just sorts the table, as if I'd clicked the up-down button. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minor_planets:_541001%E2%80%93542000" title="List of minor planets: 541001–542000">List of minor planets: 541001–542000</a> and friends are examples of this in the wild. I'm using Firefox. <span style="font-family:serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Eman235#top" title="User:Eman235"><span style="color:green;">E<b>man</b></span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Eman235" title="Special:Contributions/Eman235"><span style="color:#6643d1;">2<b>35</b></span></a>/<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eman235#top" title="User talk:Eman235"><span style="color:brown;"><i>talk</i></span></a></span> 20:52, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Eman235|2019-08-02T20:52:00.000Z|Template:colored_link_in_sortable_table_headers_breaks_linking&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T21:06:00.000Z|Eman235|2019-08-02T20:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-02T20:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Eman235&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Eman235|2019-08-02T20:52:00.000Z|Template:colored_link_in_sortable_table_headers_breaks_linking"></span>
+<p>"<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo" class="mw-redirect" title="Foo">Foo</a>", a regular link, is perfectly clickable, and takes me to that article; but <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar" title="Bar"><span style="color: green; text-decoration: inherit; -moz-text-decoration-color: green; text-decoration-color: green;">Bar</span></a> (which is <code>{{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Colored_link" title="Template:Colored link">colored link</a>|green|Bar}}</code>) just sorts the table, as if I'd clicked the up-down button. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minor_planets:_541001%E2%80%93542000" title="List of minor planets: 541001–542000">List of minor planets: 541001–542000</a> and friends are examples of this in the wild. I'm using Firefox. <span style="font-family:serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Eman235#top" title="User:Eman235"><span style="color:green;">E<b>man</b></span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Eman235" title="Special:Contributions/Eman235"><span style="color:#6643d1;">2<b>35</b></span></a>/<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eman235#top" title="User talk:Eman235"><span style="color:brown;"><i>talk</i></span></a></span> 20:52, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Eman235|2019-08-02T20:52:00.000Z|Template:colored_link_in_sortable_table_headers_breaks_linking&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T21:06:00.000Z|Eman235|2019-08-02T20:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-02T20:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Eman235&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Eman235|2019-08-02T20:52:00.000Z|Template:colored_link_in_sortable_table_headers_breaks_linking"></span>
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 <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T21:06:00.000Z|Eman235|2019-08-02T20:52:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Eman235" title="User:Eman235">Eman235</a>:</span> wrap a div around it for a quick fix:</dd></dl>
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-<dl><dd>— <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 21:06, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T21:06:00.000Z|Eman235|2019-08-02T20:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Eman235|2019-08-02T21:09:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T21:06:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-02T21:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T21:06:00.000Z|Eman235|2019-08-02T20:52:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Eman235|2019-08-02T21:09:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T21:06:00.000Z"></span>Still doesn't work for me ): <span style="font-family:serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Eman235#top" title="User:Eman235"><span style="color:green;">E<b>man</b></span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Eman235" title="Special:Contributions/Eman235"><span style="color:#6643d1;">2<b>35</b></span></a>/<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eman235#top" title="User talk:Eman235"><span style="color:brown;"><i>talk</i></span></a></span> 21:09, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Eman235|2019-08-02T21:09:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T21:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T21:12:00.000Z|Eman235|2019-08-02T21:09:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-02T21:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Eman235&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Eman235|2019-08-02T21:09:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T21:06:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T21:12:00.000Z|Eman235|2019-08-02T21:09:00.000Z"></span>I got tricked in preview mode, looking for an "easy" way for you to do this, there are tricky ways. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 21:12, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T21:12:00.000Z|Eman235|2019-08-02T21:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Eman235|2019-08-02T21:37:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T21:12:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-02T21:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T21:12:00.000Z|Eman235|2019-08-02T21:09:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Eman235|2019-08-02T21:37:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T21:12:00.000Z"></span>If nothing else, a tricky solution might be fine for <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:List_of_minor_planets/header2" title="Template:List of minor planets/header2">Template:List of minor planets/header2</a> (it being a template and all). <span style="font-family:serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Eman235#top" title="User:Eman235"><span style="color:green;">E<b>man</b></span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Eman235" title="Special:Contributions/Eman235"><span style="color:#6643d1;">2<b>35</b></span></a>/<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eman235#top" title="User talk:Eman235"><span style="color:brown;"><i>talk</i></span></a></span> 21:37, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Eman235|2019-08-02T21:37:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T21:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T22:29:00.000Z|Eman235|2019-08-02T21:37:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-02T21:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Eman235&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Eman235|2019-08-02T21:37:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T21:12:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T22:29:00.000Z|Eman235|2019-08-02T21:37:00.000Z"></span>Non-technically, this isn't a great idea, is there an overwhelming editorial reason that this table should have colored headers? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 22:29, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T22:29:00.000Z|Eman235|2019-08-02T21:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Eman235|2019-08-02T23:29:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T22:29:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-02T22:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T22:29:00.000Z|Eman235|2019-08-02T21:37:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Eman235|2019-08-02T23:29:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T22:29:00.000Z"></span>Not sure—pinging <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rfassbind" title="User:Rfassbind">Rfassbind</a>, who added the colored headers early last month. <span style="font-family:serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Eman235#top" title="User:Eman235"><span style="color:green;">E<b>man</b></span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Eman235" title="Special:Contributions/Eman235"><span style="color:#6643d1;">2<b>35</b></span></a>/<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eman235#top" title="User talk:Eman235"><span style="color:brown;"><i>talk</i></span></a></span> 23:29, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Eman235|2019-08-02T23:29:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T22:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-08-04T21:05:00.000Z|Eman235|2019-08-02T23:29:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-02T23:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Eman235&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Eman235|2019-08-02T23:29:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T22:29:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nyttend|2019-08-04T21:05:00.000Z|Eman235|2019-08-02T23:29:00.000Z"></span>While this precise situation probably isn't a great idea, something's still broken, since the whole point of {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Colored_link" title="Template:Colored link">colored link</a>}} is to produce a link, and we need to figure out how to repair it.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nyttend" title="User talk:Nyttend">talk</a>) 21:05, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-08-04T21:05:00.000Z|Eman235|2019-08-02T23:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-04T22:14:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-08-04T21:05:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T21:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nyttend&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nyttend|2019-08-04T21:05:00.000Z|Eman235|2019-08-02T23:29:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-04T22:14:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-08-04T21:05:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Eman235" title="User:Eman235">Eman235</a>:</span> yea - someone should open a phab ticket, it isn't the template per se, but if a span is used on a table headerer with wikitable sortable, the label is turned in to the control when it isn't expected to be... — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 22:14, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:9,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-04T22:14:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-08-04T21:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Anomie|2019-08-05T12:01:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-04T22:14:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T22:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-04T22:14:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-08-04T21:05:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Anomie|2019-08-05T12:01:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-04T22:14:00.000Z"></span>More specifically, the problem is that <a href="https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/core/%2B/ddef82758db4144f716431e04387d96de617135d/resources/src/jquery.tablesorter/jquery.tablesorter.js#936" class="extiw" title="gerrit:plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/core/+/ddef82758db4144f716431e04387d96de617135d/resources/src/jquery.tablesorter/jquery.tablesorter.js">the JS tablesorter code</a> tries to avoid triggering when a link is clicked, but it only special-cases clicks on the <code class="nowrap" style="">&lt;a></code> element itself. With {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Colored_link" title="Template:Colored link">colored link</a>}}, it sees the <code class="nowrap" style="">&lt;span></code> used for applying the coloring as the thing clicked and doesn't bother to check whether that <code class="nowrap" style="">&lt;span></code> is inside of an <code class="nowrap" style="">&lt;a></code>. This would also happen with things like italic or bold markup inside a link in a table header, basically anything where there's a tag inside the <code class="nowrap" style="">&lt;a></code>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anomie" title="User:Anomie">Anomie</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anomie" title="User talk:Anomie">⚔</a> 12:01, 5 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:10,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Anomie|2019-08-05T12:01:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-04T22:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-05T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Anomie&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Anomie|2019-08-05T12:01:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-04T22:14:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<p><span class="outdent-template" style="display:block;margin-top:-0.5em;color:#AAA;;position:relative;left:-0.25em"><span style="display:inline-block; overflow:hidden;">┌</span><span style="display:inline-block; overflow:hidden; word-wrap:normal; width:10.5em;">─────────────────</span><span style="display:inline-block; overflow:hidden;">┘</span></span><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Rfassbind|2019-08-04T21:42:00.000Z|Template:colored_link_in_sortable_table_headers_breaks_linking"></span> For the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minor_planets:_541001%E2%80%93542000" title="List of minor planets: 541001–542000">list of minor planets: 541001–542000</a> and friends, the standard, light-grey color for wikitable headers is undesirable, because it is too similar to the existing color palette used for the table rows. Is there a <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:POLICY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:POLICY">WP:POLICY</a> that forbids changing the table-header color despite good reasons? While the link and sort features are currently in conflict with each other, the middle mouse button still works. I'm currently testing a work-around for said conflict. If no simple solution can be found, the table's sortability feature will have to go. <em><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rfassbind" title="User:Rfassbind"><span style="font-weight:bold;color:forestgreen;"><span style="color:#a2a2a2;">R</span>fassbind</span></a> <small><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rfassbind" title="User talk:Rfassbind">– talk</a></small></em> 21:42, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Rfassbind|2019-08-04T21:42:00.000Z|Template:colored_link_in_sortable_table_headers_breaks_linking&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-08-04T22:04:00.000Z|Rfassbind|2019-08-04T21:42:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T21:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Rfassbind&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Rfassbind|2019-08-04T21:42:00.000Z|Template:colored_link_in_sortable_table_headers_breaks_linking"></span>
+<dl><dd>— <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 21:06, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T21:06:00.000Z|Eman235|2019-08-02T20:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Eman235|2019-08-02T21:09:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T21:06:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-02T21:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T21:06:00.000Z|Eman235|2019-08-02T20:52:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Eman235|2019-08-02T21:09:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T21:06:00.000Z"></span>Still doesn't work for me ): <span style="font-family:serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Eman235#top" title="User:Eman235"><span style="color:green;">E<b>man</b></span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Eman235" title="Special:Contributions/Eman235"><span style="color:#6643d1;">2<b>35</b></span></a>/<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eman235#top" title="User talk:Eman235"><span style="color:brown;"><i>talk</i></span></a></span> 21:09, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Eman235|2019-08-02T21:09:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T21:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T21:12:00.000Z|Eman235|2019-08-02T21:09:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-02T21:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Eman235&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Eman235|2019-08-02T21:09:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T21:06:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T21:12:00.000Z|Eman235|2019-08-02T21:09:00.000Z"></span>I got tricked in preview mode, looking for an "easy" way for you to do this, there are tricky ways. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 21:12, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T21:12:00.000Z|Eman235|2019-08-02T21:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Eman235|2019-08-02T21:37:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T21:12:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-02T21:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T21:12:00.000Z|Eman235|2019-08-02T21:09:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Eman235|2019-08-02T21:37:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T21:12:00.000Z"></span>If nothing else, a tricky solution might be fine for <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:List_of_minor_planets/header2" title="Template:List of minor planets/header2">Template:List of minor planets/header2</a> (it being a template and all). <span style="font-family:serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Eman235#top" title="User:Eman235"><span style="color:green;">E<b>man</b></span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Eman235" title="Special:Contributions/Eman235"><span style="color:#6643d1;">2<b>35</b></span></a>/<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eman235#top" title="User talk:Eman235"><span style="color:brown;"><i>talk</i></span></a></span> 21:37, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Eman235|2019-08-02T21:37:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T21:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T22:29:00.000Z|Eman235|2019-08-02T21:37:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-02T21:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Eman235&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Eman235|2019-08-02T21:37:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T21:12:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T22:29:00.000Z|Eman235|2019-08-02T21:37:00.000Z"></span>Non-technically, this isn't a great idea, is there an overwhelming editorial reason that this table should have colored headers? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 22:29, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T22:29:00.000Z|Eman235|2019-08-02T21:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Eman235|2019-08-02T23:29:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T22:29:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-02T22:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T22:29:00.000Z|Eman235|2019-08-02T21:37:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Eman235|2019-08-02T23:29:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T22:29:00.000Z"></span>Not sure—pinging <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rfassbind" title="User:Rfassbind">Rfassbind</a>, who added the colored headers early last month. <span style="font-family:serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Eman235#top" title="User:Eman235"><span style="color:green;">E<b>man</b></span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Eman235" title="Special:Contributions/Eman235"><span style="color:#6643d1;">2<b>35</b></span></a>/<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eman235#top" title="User talk:Eman235"><span style="color:brown;"><i>talk</i></span></a></span> 23:29, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Eman235|2019-08-02T23:29:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T22:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-08-04T21:05:00.000Z|Eman235|2019-08-02T23:29:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-02T23:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Eman235&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Eman235|2019-08-02T23:29:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-02T22:29:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nyttend|2019-08-04T21:05:00.000Z|Eman235|2019-08-02T23:29:00.000Z"></span>While this precise situation probably isn't a great idea, something's still broken, since the whole point of {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Colored_link" title="Template:Colored link">colored link</a>}} is to produce a link, and we need to figure out how to repair it.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nyttend" title="User talk:Nyttend">talk</a>) 21:05, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-08-04T21:05:00.000Z|Eman235|2019-08-02T23:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-04T22:14:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-08-04T21:05:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T21:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nyttend&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nyttend|2019-08-04T21:05:00.000Z|Eman235|2019-08-02T23:29:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-04T22:14:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-08-04T21:05:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Eman235" title="User:Eman235">Eman235</a>:</span> yea - someone should open a phab ticket, it isn't the template per se, but if a span is used on a table headerer with wikitable sortable, the label is turned in to the control when it isn't expected to be... — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 22:14, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:9,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-04T22:14:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-08-04T21:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Anomie|2019-08-05T12:01:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-04T22:14:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T22:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-04T22:14:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-08-04T21:05:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Anomie|2019-08-05T12:01:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-04T22:14:00.000Z"></span>More specifically, the problem is that <a href="https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/core/%2B/ddef82758db4144f716431e04387d96de617135d/resources/src/jquery.tablesorter/jquery.tablesorter.js#936" class="extiw" title="gerrit:plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/core/+/ddef82758db4144f716431e04387d96de617135d/resources/src/jquery.tablesorter/jquery.tablesorter.js">the JS tablesorter code</a> tries to avoid triggering when a link is clicked, but it only special-cases clicks on the <code class="nowrap" style="">&lt;a></code> element itself. With {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Colored_link" title="Template:Colored link">colored link</a>}}, it sees the <code class="nowrap" style="">&lt;span></code> used for applying the coloring as the thing clicked and doesn't bother to check whether that <code class="nowrap" style="">&lt;span></code> is inside of an <code class="nowrap" style="">&lt;a></code>. This would also happen with things like italic or bold markup inside a link in a table header, basically anything where there's a tag inside the <code class="nowrap" style="">&lt;a></code>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anomie" title="User:Anomie">Anomie</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anomie" title="User talk:Anomie">⚔</a> 12:01, 5 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:10,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Anomie|2019-08-05T12:01:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-04T22:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-05T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Anomie&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Anomie|2019-08-05T12:01:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-04T22:14:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<p><span class="outdent-template" style="display:block;margin-top:-0.5em;color:#AAA;;position:relative;left:-0.25em"><span style="display:inline-block; overflow:hidden;">┌</span><span style="display:inline-block; overflow:hidden; word-wrap:normal; width:10.5em;">─────────────────</span><span style="display:inline-block; overflow:hidden;">┘</span></span><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Rfassbind|2019-08-04T21:42:00.000Z|Template:colored_link_in_sortable_table_headers_breaks_linking"></span> For the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minor_planets:_541001%E2%80%93542000" title="List of minor planets: 541001–542000">list of minor planets: 541001–542000</a> and friends, the standard, light-grey color for wikitable headers is undesirable, because it is too similar to the existing color palette used for the table rows. Is there a <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:POLICY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:POLICY">WP:POLICY</a> that forbids changing the table-header color despite good reasons? While the link and sort features are currently in conflict with each other, the middle mouse button still works. I'm currently testing a work-around for said conflict. If no simple solution can be found, the table's sortability feature will have to go. <em><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rfassbind" title="User:Rfassbind"><span style="font-weight:bold;color:forestgreen;"><span style="color:#a2a2a2;">R</span>fassbind</span></a> <small><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rfassbind" title="User talk:Rfassbind">– talk</a></small></em> 21:42, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Rfassbind|2019-08-04T21:42:00.000Z|Template:colored_link_in_sortable_table_headers_breaks_linking&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-08-04T22:04:00.000Z|Rfassbind|2019-08-04T21:42:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T21:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Rfassbind&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Rfassbind|2019-08-04T21:42:00.000Z|Template:colored_link_in_sortable_table_headers_breaks_linking"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nyttend|2019-08-04T22:04:00.000Z|Rfassbind|2019-08-04T21:42:00.000Z"></span>The problem with using multiple colors for meaning is that it's sometimes not as accessible for colorblind people like me, and it's meaningless to the blind.  But it sounds like you're doing this just for variation, in a situation where variation has a practical benefit.  That should be fine as far as accessibility is concerned, but if you use multiple colors, users will expect meaning to be associated with the different colors, and "random" use of colors will be confusing.  If your exclusive purpose is distinguishing the text from something else, why not just pick one color and use it consistently?  Either users won't notice, or they'll notice and not be confused.  Also, the middle mouse button doesn't always work: when I do a middle-click with my mouse, it brings up something that's intended to let me choose an open window to use (browser, calculator, Notepad, etc.) and doesn't open a new browser tab with the link target, as it did on my previous computers.  I'm using Windows 10 with Internet Explorer; I don't know if other browsers or other operating systems will behave the same way.  However, if I'm using the touchpad on the same computer, I don't have a middle mouse button, and I have no idea if there's an analogous feature for people who edit on smartphones.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nyttend" title="User talk:Nyttend">talk</a>) 22:04, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-08-04T22:04:00.000Z|Rfassbind|2019-08-04T21:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-05T09:54:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-08-04T22:04:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T22:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nyttend&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nyttend|2019-08-04T22:04:00.000Z|Rfassbind|2019-08-04T21:42:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-05T09:54:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-08-04T22:04:00.000Z"></span>The links work with <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Sorting#Sorting_buttons_in_a_separate_row" title="Help:Sorting">Help:Sorting#Sorting buttons in a separate row</a> like below. But it looks bad and may sound like an empty row in a screen reader. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 09:54, 5 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-05T09:54:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-08-04T22:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-05T09:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-05T09:54:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-08-04T22:04:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nyttend|2019-08-04T22:04:00.000Z|Rfassbind|2019-08-04T21:42:00.000Z"></span>The problem with using multiple colors for meaning is that it's sometimes not as accessible for colorblind people like me, and it's meaningless to the blind.  But it sounds like you're doing this just for variation, in a situation where variation has a practical benefit.  That should be fine as far as accessibility is concerned, but if you use multiple colors, users will expect meaning to be associated with the different colors, and "random" use of colors will be confusing.  If your exclusive purpose is distinguishing the text from something else, why not just pick one color and use it consistently?  Either users won't notice, or they'll notice and not be confused.  Also, the middle mouse button doesn't always work: when I do a middle-click with my mouse, it brings up something that's intended to let me choose an open window to use (browser, calculator, Notepad, etc.) and doesn't open a new browser tab with the link target, as it did on my previous computers.  I'm using Windows 10 with Internet Explorer; I don't know if other browsers or other operating systems will behave the same way.  However, if I'm using the touchpad on the same computer, I don't have a middle mouse button, and I have no idea if there's an analogous feature for people who edit on smartphones.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nyttend" title="User talk:Nyttend">talk</a>) 22:04, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-08-04T22:04:00.000Z|Rfassbind|2019-08-04T21:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-05T09:54:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-08-04T22:04:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T22:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nyttend&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nyttend|2019-08-04T22:04:00.000Z|Rfassbind|2019-08-04T21:42:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-05T09:54:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-08-04T22:04:00.000Z"></span>The links work with <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Sorting#Sorting_buttons_in_a_separate_row" title="Help:Sorting">Help:Sorting#Sorting buttons in a separate row</a> like below. But it looks bad and may sound like an empty row in a screen reader. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 09:54, 5 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-05T09:54:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-08-04T22:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-05T09:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-05T09:54:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-08-04T22:04:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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-<dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Graham87" title="User talk:Graham87">Graham87</a>, could you check this table and tell us how your screen reader handles it?  This table has six lines: "Designation and Discovery" appear on the first line (a header), "Permanent" and "Provisional" and "Citation" and "Date" and "Site" and "Discoverer(s)" and "Category" and "Diam." appear on the second (also a header), the third is spots where one can click to re-sort, and data appear on the fourth through the sixth.  Also, there's a "Ref" header that appears in a merged first and second line.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend_backup" title="User:Nyttend backup">Nyttend backup</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nyttend_backup" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Nyttend backup">talk</a>) 16:34, 5 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nyttend backup|2019-08-05T16:34:00.000Z|Template:colored_link_in_sortable_table_headers_breaks_linking&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-05T16:37:00.000Z|Nyttend backup|2019-08-05T16:34:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-05T16:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nyttend backup&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nyttend backup|2019-08-05T16:34:00.000Z|Template:colored_link_in_sortable_table_headers_breaks_linking"></span>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-05T16:37:00.000Z|Nyttend backup|2019-08-05T16:34:00.000Z"></span>Not use a screen reader, but as a generic reader this makes me think something is missing by having the controls on their own row with no labels. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 16:37, 5 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-05T16:37:00.000Z|Nyttend backup|2019-08-05T16:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-05T16:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-05T16:37:00.000Z|Nyttend backup|2019-08-05T16:34:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Graham87" title="User talk:Graham87">Graham87</a>, could you check this table and tell us how your screen reader handles it?  This table has six lines: "Designation and Discovery" appear on the first line (a header), "Permanent" and "Provisional" and "Citation" and "Date" and "Site" and "Discoverer(s)" and "Category" and "Diam." appear on the second (also a header), the third is spots where one can click to re-sort, and data appear on the fourth through the sixth.  Also, there's a "Ref" header that appears in a merged first and second line.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend_backup" title="User:Nyttend backup">Nyttend backup</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nyttend_backup" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Nyttend backup">talk</a>) 16:34, 5 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nyttend backup|2019-08-05T16:34:00.000Z|Template:colored_link_in_sortable_table_headers_breaks_linking&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-05T16:37:00.000Z|Nyttend backup|2019-08-05T16:34:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-05T16:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nyttend backup&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nyttend backup|2019-08-05T16:34:00.000Z|Template:colored_link_in_sortable_table_headers_breaks_linking"></span>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-05T16:37:00.000Z|Nyttend backup|2019-08-05T16:34:00.000Z"></span>Not use a screen reader, but as a generic reader this makes me think something is missing by having the controls on their own row with no labels. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 16:37, 5 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-05T16:37:00.000Z|Nyttend backup|2019-08-05T16:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-05T16:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-05T16:37:00.000Z|Nyttend backup|2019-08-05T16:34:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="New_user_script:_Superjump" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|New_user_script:_Superjump|2019-07-28T07:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Enterprisey|2019-07-28T07:19:00.000Z|New_user_script:_Superjump&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|New_user_script:_Superjump|2019-07-28T07:19:00.000Z"></span>New user script: Superjump<span data-mw-comment-end="h|New_user_script:_Superjump|2019-07-28T07:19:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Enterprisey|2019-07-28T07:19:00.000Z|New_user_script:_Superjump"></span>Hi everyone! Just wrote a new user script. I don't usually announce new ones here, but I think this one is pretty useful. With this script, you can add custom keyboard shortcuts that will take you to any page. You can also have sub-menus, which allow for key sequences. Documentation is at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Enterprisey/superjump" title="User:Enterprisey/superjump">User:Enterprisey/superjump</a>, code is at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Enterprisey/superjump.js" title="User:Enterprisey/superjump.js">User:Enterprisey/superjump.js</a>, and I wrote <a href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/apersonbot/superjump-configurer" class="extiw" title="toollabs:apersonbot/superjump-configurer">a config tool</a> so you don't have to write JSON if you don't want to. Feedback is welcome! <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Enterprisey" title="User:Enterprisey">Enterprisey</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Enterprisey" title="User talk:Enterprisey">talk!</a>) 07:19, 28 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Enterprisey|2019-07-28T07:19:00.000Z|New_user_script:_Superjump&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|CAPTAIN MEDUSA|2019-08-05T19:24:00.000Z|Enterprisey|2019-07-28T07:19:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-28T07:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Enterprisey&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Enterprisey|2019-07-28T07:19:00.000Z|New_user_script:_Superjump"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Enterprisey|2019-07-28T07:19:00.000Z|New_user_script:_Superjump"></span>Hi everyone! Just wrote a new user script. I don't usually announce new ones here, but I think this one is pretty useful. With this script, you can add custom keyboard shortcuts that will take you to any page. You can also have sub-menus, which allow for key sequences. Documentation is at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Enterprisey/superjump" title="User:Enterprisey/superjump">User:Enterprisey/superjump</a>, code is at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Enterprisey/superjump.js" title="User:Enterprisey/superjump.js">User:Enterprisey/superjump.js</a>, and I wrote <a href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/apersonbot/superjump-configurer" class="extiw" title="toollabs:apersonbot/superjump-configurer">a config tool</a> so you don't have to write JSON if you don't want to. Feedback is welcome! <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Enterprisey" title="User:Enterprisey">Enterprisey</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Enterprisey" title="User talk:Enterprisey">talk!</a>) 07:19, 28 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Enterprisey|2019-07-28T07:19:00.000Z|New_user_script:_Superjump&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|CAPTAIN MEDUSA|2019-08-05T19:24:00.000Z|Enterprisey|2019-07-28T07:19:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-28T07:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Enterprisey&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Enterprisey|2019-07-28T07:19:00.000Z|New_user_script:_Superjump"></span>
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-<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Enterprisey" title="User:Enterprisey"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|CAPTAIN MEDUSA|2019-08-05T19:24:00.000Z|Enterprisey|2019-07-28T07:19:00.000Z"></span>Enterprisey</a>, it's a good script. but why can't I get my to work <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CAPTAIN_MEDUSA/superjump-config.json" title="User:CAPTAIN MEDUSA/superjump-config.json">User:CAPTAIN MEDUSA/superjump-config.json</a> ___<i><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CAPTAIN_MEDUSA" title="User:CAPTAIN MEDUSA"><em style="font-family:grafolitascript;color:#aa6ef4">CAPTAIN MEDUSA</em></a><small><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:CAPTAIN_MEDUSA" title="User talk:CAPTAIN MEDUSA"><b><em style="font-family:grafolitascript;color:#000000">talk</em></b></a></small></i> 19:24, 5 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|CAPTAIN MEDUSA|2019-08-05T19:24:00.000Z|Enterprisey|2019-07-28T07:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-05T19:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;CAPTAIN MEDUSA&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|CAPTAIN MEDUSA|2019-08-05T19:24:00.000Z|Enterprisey|2019-07-28T07:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Enterprisey" title="User:Enterprisey"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|CAPTAIN MEDUSA|2019-08-05T19:24:00.000Z|Enterprisey|2019-07-28T07:19:00.000Z"></span>Enterprisey</a>, it's a good script. but why can't I get my to work <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CAPTAIN_MEDUSA/superjump-config.json" title="User:CAPTAIN MEDUSA/superjump-config.json">User:CAPTAIN MEDUSA/superjump-config.json</a> ___<i><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CAPTAIN_MEDUSA" title="User:CAPTAIN MEDUSA"><em style="font-family:grafolitascript;color:#aa6ef4">CAPTAIN MEDUSA</em></a><small><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:CAPTAIN_MEDUSA" title="User talk:CAPTAIN MEDUSA"><b><em style="font-family:grafolitascript;color:#000000">talk</em></b></a></small></i> 19:24, 5 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|CAPTAIN MEDUSA|2019-08-05T19:24:00.000Z|Enterprisey|2019-07-28T07:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-05T19:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;CAPTAIN MEDUSA&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|CAPTAIN MEDUSA|2019-08-05T19:24:00.000Z|Enterprisey|2019-07-28T07:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="HotCat_with_Timeless_skin" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|HotCat_with_Timeless_skin|2019-08-05T19:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Puzzledvegetable|2019-08-05T19:28:00.000Z|HotCat_with_Timeless_skin&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|HotCat_with_Timeless_skin|2019-08-05T19:28:00.000Z"></span>HotCat with Timeless skin<span data-mw-comment-end="h|HotCat_with_Timeless_skin|2019-08-05T19:28:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Puzzledvegetable|2019-08-05T19:28:00.000Z|HotCat_with_Timeless_skin"></span>HotCat does not appear to work with the timeless skin activated. Is there any way to fix this? --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Puzzledvegetable" title="User:Puzzledvegetable"><u style="color:#0000ff"><span style="font-family:Century Gothic;color:#000000">Puzzledvegetable</span></u></a><b><sup style="font-family:Century Gothic"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Puzzledvegetable" title="User talk:Puzzledvegetable">Is it teatime already?</a></sup></b> 19:28, 5 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Puzzledvegetable|2019-08-05T19:28:00.000Z|HotCat_with_Timeless_skin&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Galobtter|2019-08-06T02:34:00.000Z|Puzzledvegetable|2019-08-05T19:28:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-05T19:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Puzzledvegetable&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Puzzledvegetable|2019-08-05T19:28:00.000Z|HotCat_with_Timeless_skin"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Puzzledvegetable|2019-08-05T19:28:00.000Z|HotCat_with_Timeless_skin"></span>HotCat does not appear to work with the timeless skin activated. Is there any way to fix this? --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Puzzledvegetable" title="User:Puzzledvegetable"><u style="color:#0000ff"><span style="font-family:Century Gothic;color:#000000">Puzzledvegetable</span></u></a><b><sup style="font-family:Century Gothic"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Puzzledvegetable" title="User talk:Puzzledvegetable">Is it teatime already?</a></sup></b> 19:28, 5 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Puzzledvegetable|2019-08-05T19:28:00.000Z|HotCat_with_Timeless_skin&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Galobtter|2019-08-06T02:34:00.000Z|Puzzledvegetable|2019-08-05T19:28:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-05T19:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Puzzledvegetable&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Puzzledvegetable|2019-08-05T19:28:00.000Z|HotCat_with_Timeless_skin"></span>
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-<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Puzzledvegetable" title="User:Puzzledvegetable"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Galobtter|2019-08-06T02:34:00.000Z|Puzzledvegetable|2019-08-05T19:28:00.000Z"></span>Puzzledvegetable</a>, see <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T181344" class="extiw" title="phab:T181344">phab:T181344</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Galobtter" title="User:Galobtter">Galobtter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Galobtter" title="User talk:Galobtter">pingó mió</a>) 02:34, 6 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Galobtter|2019-08-06T02:34:00.000Z|Puzzledvegetable|2019-08-05T19:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-06T02:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Galobtter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Galobtter|2019-08-06T02:34:00.000Z|Puzzledvegetable|2019-08-05T19:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Puzzledvegetable" title="User:Puzzledvegetable"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Galobtter|2019-08-06T02:34:00.000Z|Puzzledvegetable|2019-08-05T19:28:00.000Z"></span>Puzzledvegetable</a>, see <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T181344" class="extiw" title="phab:T181344">phab:T181344</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Galobtter" title="User:Galobtter">Galobtter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Galobtter" title="User talk:Galobtter">pingó mió</a>) 02:34, 6 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Galobtter|2019-08-06T02:34:00.000Z|Puzzledvegetable|2019-08-05T19:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-06T02:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Galobtter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Galobtter|2019-08-06T02:34:00.000Z|Puzzledvegetable|2019-08-05T19:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SharabSalam|2019-08-06T02:57:00.000Z|Mobile_version_infobox_country_and_the_lede"></span>Hi, so I noticed today in the mobile version that infobox country appears before the lede paragraph. This was not the case before. It was firstly the lede paragraph then the infobox of the country. e.g <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yemen" title="Yemen">Yemen</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algeria" title="Algeria">Algeria</a>.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SharabSalam" title="User talk:SharabSalam">talk</a>) 02:57, 6 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-08-06T02:57:00.000Z|Mobile_version_infobox_country_and_the_lede&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-06T02:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SharabSalam&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SharabSalam|2019-08-06T02:57:00.000Z|Mobile_version_infobox_country_and_the_lede"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SharabSalam|2019-08-06T02:57:00.000Z|Mobile_version_infobox_country_and_the_lede"></span>Hi, so I noticed today in the mobile version that infobox country appears before the lede paragraph. This was not the case before. It was firstly the lede paragraph then the infobox of the country. e.g <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yemen" title="Yemen">Yemen</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algeria" title="Algeria">Algeria</a>.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SharabSalam" title="User:SharabSalam">SharabSalam</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SharabSalam" title="User talk:SharabSalam">talk</a>) 02:57, 6 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SharabSalam|2019-08-06T02:57:00.000Z|Mobile_version_infobox_country_and_the_lede&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-06T02:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SharabSalam&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SharabSalam|2019-08-06T02:57:00.000Z|Mobile_version_infobox_country_and_the_lede"></span>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:31:00.000Z|Edit_counter_and_&quot;Top_Edits&quot;_currently_non-functional"></span>I can't get the xtools.wmflabs.org "Edit count" tool to work, either on overall edits by an editor or an editor's edits per page. It just keeps loading and then times out, with the message "<span class="example" style="font-family: Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', serif; color: #006400;">Sorry, the requested information took too long to process (timeout 600 seconds). In order to save resources, the query was automatically killed.</span>" Help! <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Softlavender" title="User:Softlavender">Softlavender</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Softlavender" title="User talk:Softlavender">talk</a>) 02:31, 6 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:31:00.000Z|Edit_counter_and_\&quot;Top_Edits\&quot;_currently_non-functional&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T02:42:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:54:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Softlavender|2019-08-06T03:46:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:31:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-06T02:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Softlavender&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:31:00.000Z|Edit_counter_and_&quot;Top_Edits&quot;_currently_non-functional"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:31:00.000Z|Edit_counter_and_&quot;Top_Edits&quot;_currently_non-functional"></span>I can't get the xtools.wmflabs.org "Edit count" tool to work, either on overall edits by an editor or an editor's edits per page. It just keeps loading and then times out, with the message "<span class="example" style="font-family: Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', serif; color: #006400;">Sorry, the requested information took too long to process (timeout 600 seconds). In order to save resources, the query was automatically killed.</span>" Help! <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Softlavender" title="User:Softlavender">Softlavender</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Softlavender" title="User talk:Softlavender">talk</a>) 02:31, 6 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:31:00.000Z|Edit_counter_and_\&quot;Top_Edits\&quot;_currently_non-functional&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T02:42:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:54:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Softlavender|2019-08-06T03:46:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:31:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-06T02:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Softlavender&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:31:00.000Z|Edit_counter_and_&quot;Top_Edits&quot;_currently_non-functional"></span>
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 <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T02:42:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:31:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Softlavender" title="User:Softlavender">Softlavender</a>:</span> Everything is in working order on my end. Could you give examples? I'm assuming you were looking up a user with a very high edit count, or a page with a very high revision count. In these cases it is expected to go slow and unfortunately sometimes timeout. That said, the database servers have been performing very well as of late, so you shouldn't see this error very often.</dd>
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-<dd>Remember you can make the Edit Counter go faster by asking for only the data you want, using the checkboxes at <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://xtools.wmflabs.org/ec">https://xtools.wmflabs.org/ec</a>. <span style="font-family:sans-serif">— <span style="font-weight:bold"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal" title="User:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal" title="User talk:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:green">talk</span></a></sup></span></span> 02:42, 6 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T02:42:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-06T02:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T02:42:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
-<ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:54:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:31:00.000Z"></span>Update</b>: It's the "Top Edits" that's timing out, although a user's overall edits is loading very very very slow as well. For an example of the Top Edits timing out, try to search my edits to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ANI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ANI">WP:ANI</a>: <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://xtools.wmflabs.org/topedits/en.wikipedia.org?page=Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&amp;namespace=4">[37]</a>. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Softlavender" title="User:Softlavender">Softlavender</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Softlavender" title="User talk:Softlavender">talk</a>) 02:54, 6 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:54:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T03:13:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:54:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-06T02:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Softlavender&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:54:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:31:00.000Z"></span>
+<dd>Remember you can make the Edit Counter go faster by asking for only the data you want, using the checkboxes at <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://xtools.wmflabs.org/ec">https://xtools.wmflabs.org/ec</a>. <span style="font-family:sans-serif">— <span style="font-weight:bold"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal" title="User:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal" title="User talk:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:green">talk</span></a></sup></span></span> 02:42, 6 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T02:42:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-06T02:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T02:42:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:54:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:31:00.000Z"></span>Update</b>: It's the "Top Edits" that's timing out, although a user's overall edits is loading very very very slow as well. For an example of the Top Edits timing out, try to search my edits to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ANI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ANI">WP:ANI</a>: <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://xtools.wmflabs.org/topedits/en.wikipedia.org?page=Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&amp;namespace=4">[37]</a>. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Softlavender" title="User:Softlavender">Softlavender</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Softlavender" title="User talk:Softlavender">talk</a>) 02:54, 6 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:54:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T03:13:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:54:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-06T02:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Softlavender&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:54:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:31:00.000Z"></span>
 <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T03:13:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:54:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Softlavender" title="User:Softlavender">Softlavender</a>:</span> Thanks. AN/I is one of those pages that is less likely to be successful :( There are over a million edits to scan. I can try to make it only search the past <i>N</i> revisions or something, so that you can at least get some data.</dd>
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-<dd>I'm not sure about the Edit Counter being slow; it took about 25 seconds for <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://xtools.wmflabs.org/ec/en.wikipedia.org/Softlavender">your account</a>. This is reasonably fast considering your 82,000+ edit count. <span style="font-family:sans-serif">— <span style="font-weight:bold"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal" title="User:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal" title="User talk:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:green">talk</span></a></sup></span></span> 03:13, 6 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T03:13:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Softlavender|2019-08-06T03:27:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T03:13:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-06T03:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T03:13:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:54:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Softlavender|2019-08-06T03:27:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T03:13:00.000Z"></span>I have never had the Edit Counter to time out when searching prolific users' edits to ANI, and I have done that search often with many prolific ANI posters (i.e., posting many hundreds of times to ANI). Can someone please fix it? Thanks. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Softlavender" title="User:Softlavender">Softlavender</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Softlavender" title="User talk:Softlavender">talk</a>) 03:27, 6 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Softlavender|2019-08-06T03:27:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T03:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T04:34:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T03:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-06T03:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Softlavender&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Softlavender|2019-08-06T03:27:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T03:13:00.000Z"></span>
+<dd>I'm not sure about the Edit Counter being slow; it took about 25 seconds for <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://xtools.wmflabs.org/ec/en.wikipedia.org/Softlavender">your account</a>. This is reasonably fast considering your 82,000+ edit count. <span style="font-family:sans-serif">— <span style="font-weight:bold"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal" title="User:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal" title="User talk:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:green">talk</span></a></sup></span></span> 03:13, 6 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T03:13:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Softlavender|2019-08-06T03:27:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T03:13:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-06T03:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T03:13:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:54:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Softlavender|2019-08-06T03:27:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T03:13:00.000Z"></span>I have never had the Edit Counter to time out when searching prolific users' edits to ANI, and I have done that search often with many prolific ANI posters (i.e., posting many hundreds of times to ANI). Can someone please fix it? Thanks. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Softlavender" title="User:Softlavender">Softlavender</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Softlavender" title="User talk:Softlavender">talk</a>) 03:27, 6 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Softlavender|2019-08-06T03:27:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T03:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T04:34:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T03:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-06T03:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Softlavender&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Softlavender|2019-08-06T03:27:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T03:13:00.000Z"></span>
 <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T04:34:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T03:27:00.000Z"></span>It took nearly 20 minutes, but I did get results using <a class="external text" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/usersearch.py?name=Softlavender&amp;page=Wikipedia%3AAdministrators%27+noticeboard%2FIncidents&amp;server=enwiki&amp;max=">Sigma's tool</a>, so feel free to use that as an alternative, since it doesn't seem to have a time limit. You have made a lot of edits to AN/I, so perhaps this combined with the long history of AN/I is what's making it so slow. There are many other factors; it's hard to say why your account times out and not others.</dd>
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-<dd>I'm not certain I can come up with a quick fix for XTools. We simply can't allow queries to run for that long. I shall try, though! <span style="font-family:sans-serif">— <span style="font-weight:bold"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal" title="User:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal" title="User talk:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:green">talk</span></a></sup></span></span> 04:34, 6 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T04:34:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T03:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-06T04:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T04:34:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T03:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Softlavender|2019-08-06T03:46:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:31:00.000Z"></span>I'm guessing that this new format and version <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://github.com/x-tools/xtools/releases/tag/3.10.3">[38]</a>, which looks nothing like the old format and version, is the problem, but no one wants to admit it doesn't work. Could we therefore revert to the previous, working version? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Softlavender" title="User:Softlavender">Softlavender</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Softlavender" title="User talk:Softlavender">talk</a>) 03:46, 6 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Softlavender|2019-08-06T03:46:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T04:38:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T03:46:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-06T03:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Softlavender&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Softlavender|2019-08-06T03:46:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:31:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T04:38:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T03:46:00.000Z"></span>Hmm the last change to Top Edits was on <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/x-tools/xtools/commit/6105218107028f1ff1fd7504f5f3a858cf78cf38">May 29</a>, and that was supposed to make it go faster, not slower. I just replied to you above; it seems there's something especially slow about your account + AN/I, and it's not unique to XTools. Use <a class="external text" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/usersearch.py?name=Softlavender&amp;page=Wikipedia%3AAdministrators%27+noticeboard%2FIncidents&amp;server=enwiki&amp;max=">Sigma's tool</a> for now since it doesn't have a time limit. I've changed <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Histlegend" title="MediaWiki:Histlegend">MediaWiki:Histlegend</a> to link to this tool, too (it was changed to XTools because at the time Sigma's tools were down). <span style="font-family:sans-serif">— <span style="font-weight:bold"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal" title="User:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal" title="User talk:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:green">talk</span></a></sup></span></span> 04:38, 6 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T04:38:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T03:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Softlavender|2019-08-06T04:52:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T04:38:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-06T04:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T04:38:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T03:46:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Softlavender|2019-08-06T04:52:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T04:38:00.000Z"></span>Whatever the case, Top Edits is clearly not working, so it needs to either be fixed or  reverted to a version that worked, or it needs to be replaced with Sigma's tool on all <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:PAGEHISTORY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PAGEHISTORY">WP:PAGEHISTORY</a> pages. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Softlavender" title="User:Softlavender">Softlavender</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Softlavender" title="User talk:Softlavender">talk</a>) 04:52, 6 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Softlavender|2019-08-06T04:52:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T04:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T05:24:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T04:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-06T04:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Softlavender&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Softlavender|2019-08-06T04:52:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T04:38:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T05:24:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T04:52:00.000Z"></span>I don't think there were any code changes that caused this. Database queries can be very complex with many factors that could cause them to be slow. It may have been not-slow before, but AN/I has since grown, or perhaps the problem is that a lot of people are using the database servers right now. It's not easy to debug, but queries timing out for a pages like AN/I is really of no surprise. Sigma's tool is struggling too in this case, but as I stated above, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Histlegend" title="MediaWiki:Histlegend">MediaWiki:Histlegend</a> has been updated to link to it. <span style="font-family:sans-serif">— <span style="font-weight:bold"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal" title="User:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal" title="User talk:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:green">talk</span></a></sup></span></span> 05:24, 6 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T05:24:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T04:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-06T05:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T05:24:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T04:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li></ul>
+<dd>I'm not certain I can come up with a quick fix for XTools. We simply can't allow queries to run for that long. I shall try, though! <span style="font-family:sans-serif">— <span style="font-weight:bold"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal" title="User:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal" title="User talk:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:green">talk</span></a></sup></span></span> 04:34, 6 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T04:34:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T03:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-06T04:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T04:34:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T03:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Softlavender|2019-08-06T03:46:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:31:00.000Z"></span>I'm guessing that this new format and version <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://github.com/x-tools/xtools/releases/tag/3.10.3">[38]</a>, which looks nothing like the old format and version, is the problem, but no one wants to admit it doesn't work. Could we therefore revert to the previous, working version? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Softlavender" title="User:Softlavender">Softlavender</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Softlavender" title="User talk:Softlavender">talk</a>) 03:46, 6 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Softlavender|2019-08-06T03:46:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T04:38:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T03:46:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-06T03:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Softlavender&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Softlavender|2019-08-06T03:46:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T02:31:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T04:38:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T03:46:00.000Z"></span>Hmm the last change to Top Edits was on <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/x-tools/xtools/commit/6105218107028f1ff1fd7504f5f3a858cf78cf38">May 29</a>, and that was supposed to make it go faster, not slower. I just replied to you above; it seems there's something especially slow about your account + AN/I, and it's not unique to XTools. Use <a class="external text" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/usersearch.py?name=Softlavender&amp;page=Wikipedia%3AAdministrators%27+noticeboard%2FIncidents&amp;server=enwiki&amp;max=">Sigma's tool</a> for now since it doesn't have a time limit. I've changed <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Histlegend" title="MediaWiki:Histlegend">MediaWiki:Histlegend</a> to link to this tool, too (it was changed to XTools because at the time Sigma's tools were down). <span style="font-family:sans-serif">— <span style="font-weight:bold"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal" title="User:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal" title="User talk:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:green">talk</span></a></sup></span></span> 04:38, 6 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T04:38:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T03:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Softlavender|2019-08-06T04:52:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T04:38:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-06T04:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T04:38:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T03:46:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Softlavender|2019-08-06T04:52:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T04:38:00.000Z"></span>Whatever the case, Top Edits is clearly not working, so it needs to either be fixed or  reverted to a version that worked, or it needs to be replaced with Sigma's tool on all <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:PAGEHISTORY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PAGEHISTORY">WP:PAGEHISTORY</a> pages. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Softlavender" title="User:Softlavender">Softlavender</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Softlavender" title="User talk:Softlavender">talk</a>) 04:52, 6 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Softlavender|2019-08-06T04:52:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T04:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T05:24:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T04:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-06T04:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Softlavender&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Softlavender|2019-08-06T04:52:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T04:38:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T05:24:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T04:52:00.000Z"></span>I don't think there were any code changes that caused this. Database queries can be very complex with many factors that could cause them to be slow. It may have been not-slow before, but AN/I has since grown, or perhaps the problem is that a lot of people are using the database servers right now. It's not easy to debug, but queries timing out for a pages like AN/I is really of no surprise. Sigma's tool is struggling too in this case, but as I stated above, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Histlegend" title="MediaWiki:Histlegend">MediaWiki:Histlegend</a> has been updated to link to it. <span style="font-family:sans-serif">— <span style="font-weight:bold"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal" title="User:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal" title="User talk:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:green">talk</span></a></sup></span></span> 05:24, 6 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T05:24:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T04:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-06T05:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-06T05:24:00.000Z|Softlavender|2019-08-06T04:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li></ul>
 <h2><span id="French_editor_asking_why_Dendera_zodiac_isn.27t_supported_by_the_machine_translation_software"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="French_editor_asking_why_Dendera_zodiac_isn't_supported_by_the_machine_translation_software" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|French_editor_asking_why_Dendera_zodiac_isn't_supported_by_the_machine_translati|2019-08-06T12:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Doug Weller|2019-08-06T12:25:00.000Z|French_editor_asking_why_Dendera_zodiac_isn't_supported_by_the_machine_translati&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|French_editor_asking_why_Dendera_zodiac_isn't_supported_by_the_machine_translati|2019-08-06T12:25:00.000Z"></span>French editor asking why <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dendera_zodiac" title="Dendera zodiac">Dendera zodiac</a> isn't supported by the machine translation software<span data-mw-comment-end="h|French_editor_asking_why_Dendera_zodiac_isn't_supported_by_the_machine_translati|2019-08-06T12:25:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Doug Weller|2019-08-06T12:25:00.000Z|French_editor_asking_why_Dendera_zodiac_isn't_supported_by_the_machine_translati"></span>See <a class="external autonumber" href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion:Zodiaque_de_Dend%C3%A9rah#Page_anglophone_non_traduisible">[39]</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Dendera_zodiac#no_traduction_possible_!?_(sorry_for_my_english)" title="Talk:Dendera zodiac">Talk:Dendera zodiac#no traduction possible !? (sorry for my english)</a>. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Doug_Weller" title="User:Doug Weller"><span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller" title="User talk:Doug Weller">talk</a> 12:25, 6 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Doug Weller|2019-08-06T12:25:00.000Z|French_editor_asking_why_Dendera_zodiac_isn't_supported_by_the_machine_translati&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-06T12:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Doug Weller&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Doug Weller|2019-08-06T12:25:00.000Z|French_editor_asking_why_Dendera_zodiac_isn't_supported_by_the_machine_translati"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Doug Weller|2019-08-06T12:25:00.000Z|French_editor_asking_why_Dendera_zodiac_isn't_supported_by_the_machine_translati"></span>See <a class="external autonumber" href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion:Zodiaque_de_Dend%C3%A9rah#Page_anglophone_non_traduisible">[39]</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Dendera_zodiac#no_traduction_possible_!?_(sorry_for_my_english)" title="Talk:Dendera zodiac">Talk:Dendera zodiac#no traduction possible !? (sorry for my english)</a>. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Doug_Weller" title="User:Doug Weller"><span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller" title="User talk:Doug Weller">talk</a> 12:25, 6 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Doug Weller|2019-08-06T12:25:00.000Z|French_editor_asking_why_Dendera_zodiac_isn't_supported_by_the_machine_translati&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-06T12:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Doug Weller&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Doug Weller|2019-08-06T12:25:00.000Z|French_editor_asking_why_Dendera_zodiac_isn't_supported_by_the_machine_translati"></span>
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 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Gender_questions" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Gender_questions|2019-08-06T18:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|GoodDay|2019-08-06T18:18:00.000Z|Gender_questions&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Gender_questions|2019-08-06T18:18:00.000Z"></span>Gender questions<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Gender_questions|2019-08-06T18:18:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|GoodDay|2019-08-06T18:18:00.000Z|Gender_questions"></span>OK, what's with the 'Gender' questionaire, popping up? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GoodDay" title="User:GoodDay">GoodDay</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GoodDay" title="User talk:GoodDay">talk</a>) 18:18, 6 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GoodDay|2019-08-06T18:18:00.000Z|Gender_questions&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Eman235|2019-08-06T18:26:00.000Z|GoodDay|2019-08-06T18:18:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-06T18:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GoodDay&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GoodDay|2019-08-06T18:18:00.000Z|Gender_questions"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|GoodDay|2019-08-06T18:18:00.000Z|Gender_questions"></span>OK, what's with the 'Gender' questionaire, popping up? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GoodDay" title="User:GoodDay">GoodDay</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GoodDay" title="User talk:GoodDay">talk</a>) 18:18, 6 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GoodDay|2019-08-06T18:18:00.000Z|Gender_questions&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Eman235|2019-08-06T18:26:00.000Z|GoodDay|2019-08-06T18:18:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-06T18:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GoodDay&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GoodDay|2019-08-06T18:18:00.000Z|Gender_questions"></span>
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-<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)/Archive_62#Notification_of_upcoming_editor_survey" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)/Archive 62"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Eman235|2019-08-06T18:26:00.000Z|GoodDay|2019-08-06T18:18:00.000Z"></span>Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)/Archive 62#Notification of upcoming editor survey</a> has some info. <span style="font-family:serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Eman235#top" title="User:Eman235"><span style="color:green;">E<b>man</b></span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Eman235" title="Special:Contributions/Eman235"><span style="color:#6643d1;">2<b>35</b></span></a>/<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eman235#top" title="User talk:Eman235"><span style="color:brown;"><i>talk</i></span></a></span> 18:26, 6 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Eman235|2019-08-06T18:26:00.000Z|GoodDay|2019-08-06T18:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-06T18:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Eman235&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Eman235|2019-08-06T18:26:00.000Z|GoodDay|2019-08-06T18:18:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)/Archive_62#Notification_of_upcoming_editor_survey" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)/Archive 62"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Eman235|2019-08-06T18:26:00.000Z|GoodDay|2019-08-06T18:18:00.000Z"></span>Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)/Archive 62#Notification of upcoming editor survey</a> has some info. <span style="font-family:serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Eman235#top" title="User:Eman235"><span style="color:green;">E<b>man</b></span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Eman235" title="Special:Contributions/Eman235"><span style="color:#6643d1;">2<b>35</b></span></a>/<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eman235#top" title="User talk:Eman235"><span style="color:brown;"><i>talk</i></span></a></span> 18:26, 6 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Eman235|2019-08-06T18:26:00.000Z|GoodDay|2019-08-06T18:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-06T18:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Eman235&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Eman235|2019-08-06T18:26:00.000Z|GoodDay|2019-08-06T18:18:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Add_option_to_allow_messagebox_of_full_width" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Add_option_to_allow_messagebox_of_full_width|2019-08-04T05:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Viztor|2019-08-04T05:48:00.000Z|Add_option_to_allow_messagebox_of_full_width&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Add_option_to_allow_messagebox_of_full_width|2019-08-04T05:48:00.000Z"></span>Add option to allow messagebox of full width<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Add_option_to_allow_messagebox_of_full_width|2019-08-04T05:48:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Viztor|2019-08-04T05:48:00.000Z|Add_option_to_allow_messagebox_of_full_width"></span>currently it is set to 80%(?) of the page width, though it could be helpful in many cases if it were allowed to be set to be 100% the page width.<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Viztor" title="User:Viztor"><b style="font-family:'Fira Mono', 'Noto Mono', 'Monaco', monospace; background-color: #5AF; color:#FFE">viz</b></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Viztor" title="User talk:Viztor"><b style="font-family:'Fira Sans'; color: #5AF">✦</b></a> 05:48, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Viztor|2019-08-04T05:48:00.000Z|Add_option_to_allow_messagebox_of_full_width&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-04T09:09:00.000Z|Viztor|2019-08-04T05:48:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T05:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Viztor&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Viztor|2019-08-04T05:48:00.000Z|Add_option_to_allow_messagebox_of_full_width"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Viztor|2019-08-04T05:48:00.000Z|Add_option_to_allow_messagebox_of_full_width"></span>currently it is set to 80%(?) of the page width, though it could be helpful in many cases if it were allowed to be set to be 100% the page width.<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Viztor" title="User:Viztor"><b style="font-family:'Fira Mono', 'Noto Mono', 'Monaco', monospace; background-color: #5AF; color:#FFE">viz</b></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Viztor" title="User talk:Viztor"><b style="font-family:'Fira Sans'; color: #5AF">✦</b></a> 05:48, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Viztor|2019-08-04T05:48:00.000Z|Add_option_to_allow_messagebox_of_full_width&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-04T09:09:00.000Z|Viztor|2019-08-04T05:48:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T05:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Viztor&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Viztor|2019-08-04T05:48:00.000Z|Add_option_to_allow_messagebox_of_full_width"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-04T09:09:00.000Z|Viztor|2019-08-04T05:48:00.000Z"></span>Which message box? The parameter <code>|style = width:100%; margin:0;</code> should do it when the base templates are called directly. Other templates may not pass on <code>style</code>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 09:09, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-04T09:09:00.000Z|Viztor|2019-08-04T05:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|TheDJ|2019-08-06T18:39:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-04T09:09:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T09:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-04T09:09:00.000Z|Viztor|2019-08-04T05:48:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|TheDJ|2019-08-06T18:39:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-04T09:09:00.000Z"></span>The responsive content gadget does this for all amboxes when the page is narrower than 800px. —<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TheDJ" title="User:TheDJ">Th<span style="color: green">e</span>DJ</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheDJ" title="User talk:TheDJ">talk</a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/TheDJ" title="Special:Contributions/TheDJ">contribs</a>) 18:39, 6 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|TheDJ|2019-08-06T18:39:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-04T09:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-06T18:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;TheDJ&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|TheDJ|2019-08-06T18:39:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-04T09:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-04T09:09:00.000Z|Viztor|2019-08-04T05:48:00.000Z"></span>Which message box? The parameter <code>|style = width:100%; margin:0;</code> should do it when the base templates are called directly. Other templates may not pass on <code>style</code>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 09:09, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-04T09:09:00.000Z|Viztor|2019-08-04T05:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|TheDJ|2019-08-06T18:39:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-04T09:09:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T09:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-04T09:09:00.000Z|Viztor|2019-08-04T05:48:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|TheDJ|2019-08-06T18:39:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-04T09:09:00.000Z"></span>The responsive content gadget does this for all amboxes when the page is narrower than 800px. —<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TheDJ" title="User:TheDJ">Th<span style="color: green">e</span>DJ</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheDJ" title="User talk:TheDJ">talk</a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/TheDJ" title="Special:Contributions/TheDJ">contribs</a>) 18:39, 6 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|TheDJ|2019-08-06T18:39:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-04T09:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-06T18:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;TheDJ&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|TheDJ|2019-08-06T18:39:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-04T09:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id="Bots_Newsletter.2C_August_2019"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Bots_Newsletter,_August_2019" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Bots_Newsletter,_August_2019|2019-08-07T17:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-08-07T17:24:00.000Z|Bots_Newsletter,_August_2019&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Bots_Newsletter,_August_2019|2019-08-07T17:24:00.000Z"></span><i>Bots <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/News" title="Wikipedia:Bots/News">Newsletter</a></i>, August 2019<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Bots_Newsletter,_August_2019|2019-08-07T17:24:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
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@@ -2163,7 +2163,7 @@ BAG members are expected to be active on Wikipedia to have their finger on the p
 <li><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Bot_policy#Bots_triggered_by_multiple_users" title="Wikipedia talk:Bot policy">Wikipedia talk:Bot policy#Bots triggered by multiple users</a></li>
 <li><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Bots#How_to_use_Special:ApiFeatureUsage" title="Wikipedia talk:Bots">Wikipedia talk:Bots#How to use Special:ApiFeatureUsage</a></li></ul>
 <p>See also the latest discussions at the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BOTN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BOTN">bot noticeboard</a>.
-</p><p>Thank you! <small>edited by: <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a></span> 17:24, 7 August 2019 (UTC)</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-08-07T17:24:00.000Z|Bots_Newsletter,_August_2019&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-07T17:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Headbomb&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Headbomb|2019-08-07T17:24:00.000Z|Bots_Newsletter,_August_2019"></span>
+</p><p>Thank you! <small>edited by: <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a></span> 17:24, 7 August 2019 (UTC)</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-08-07T17:24:00.000Z|Bots_Newsletter,_August_2019&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-07T17:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Headbomb&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Headbomb|2019-08-07T17:24:00.000Z|Bots_Newsletter,_August_2019"></span>
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@@ -2172,9 +2172,9 @@ BAG members are expected to be active on Wikipedia to have their finger on the p
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 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Apokrif|2019-08-08T00:56:00.000Z|Searching_for_deleted_edits"></span>Hi,
 </p><p>I'm looking for the external tool which allows (even to non-admins) to display the list of a user's "deleted edits" (actually, I think it was the list of deleted pages they created or edited). IIRC it looked like <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://xtools.wmflabs.org/ec/en.wikipedia.org/apokrif">[40]</a> (which provides a "deleted edit" links that redirects to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:DeletedContributions" title="Special:DeletedContributions">Special:DeletedContributions</a>, which can be used only by admins).
-</p><p>Thanks. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Apokrif" title="User:Apokrif">Apokrif</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokrif" title="User talk:Apokrif">talk</a>) 00:56, 8 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Apokrif|2019-08-08T00:56:00.000Z|Searching_for_deleted_edits&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-08T02:12:00.000Z|Apokrif|2019-08-08T00:56:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-08T00:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Apokrif&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Apokrif|2019-08-08T00:56:00.000Z|Searching_for_deleted_edits"></span>
+</p><p>Thanks. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Apokrif" title="User:Apokrif">Apokrif</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokrif" title="User talk:Apokrif">talk</a>) 00:56, 8 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Apokrif|2019-08-08T00:56:00.000Z|Searching_for_deleted_edits&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-08T02:12:00.000Z|Apokrif|2019-08-08T00:56:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-08T00:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Apokrif&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Apokrif|2019-08-08T00:56:00.000Z|Searching_for_deleted_edits"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-08T02:12:00.000Z|Apokrif|2019-08-08T00:56:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Apokrif" title="User:Apokrif">Apokrif</a>:</span> Perhaps you're referring to the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://xtools.wmflabs.org/pages">Pages Created</a> tool? E.g. see your <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://xtools.wmflabs.org/pages/en.wikipedia.org/Apokrif/0/noredirects/deleted">deleted mainspace pages</a> <span style="font-family:sans-serif">— <span style="font-weight:bold"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal" title="User:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal" title="User talk:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:green">talk</span></a></sup></span></span> 02:12, 8 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-08T02:12:00.000Z|Apokrif|2019-08-08T00:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-08T02:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-08T02:12:00.000Z|Apokrif|2019-08-08T00:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-08T02:12:00.000Z|Apokrif|2019-08-08T00:56:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Apokrif" title="User:Apokrif">Apokrif</a>:</span> Perhaps you're referring to the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://xtools.wmflabs.org/pages">Pages Created</a> tool? E.g. see your <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://xtools.wmflabs.org/pages/en.wikipedia.org/Apokrif/0/noredirects/deleted">deleted mainspace pages</a> <span style="font-family:sans-serif">— <span style="font-weight:bold"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal" title="User:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal" title="User talk:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:green">talk</span></a></sup></span></span> 02:12, 8 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-08T02:12:00.000Z|Apokrif|2019-08-08T00:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-08T02:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-08T02:12:00.000Z|Apokrif|2019-08-08T00:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id=".E2.80.9CWikidata_item.E2.80.9D_link_to_be_moved_in_the_menu_column"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="“Wikidata_item”_link_to_be_moved_in_the_menu_column" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|\u201cWikidata_item\u201d_link_to_be_moved_in_the_menu_column|2019-08-08T09:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Lea Lacroix (WMDE)|2019-08-08T09:48:00.000Z|\u201cWikidata_item\u201d_link_to_be_moved_in_the_menu_column&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|“Wikidata_item”_link_to_be_moved_in_the_menu_column|2019-08-08T09:48:00.000Z"></span>“Wikidata item” link to be moved in the menu column<span data-mw-comment-end="h|“Wikidata_item”_link_to_be_moved_in_the_menu_column|2019-08-08T09:48:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Lea Lacroix (WMDE)|2019-08-08T09:48:00.000Z|“Wikidata_item”_link_to_be_moved_in_the_menu_column"></span>Hello all,
 </p><p>Currently and since Wikipedia articles and Wikidata items have been connected, the link “Wikidata item” appears on the menu column, in the section “Tools”.
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 </p><p>This is why we are going to change the position of the link, on August 22nd for all Wikipedias and August 21st for all the other projects. After this date, you will find the “Wikidata item” link in the “In other projects” section.
 </p><p>In some cases, for example on help and meta pages, the section may contain two links to Wikidata, for example on <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents" title="Help:Contents">Help:Contents</a> where there will be the “Wikidata” link (linking to <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Contents" class="extiw" title="d:Help:Contents">d:Help:Contents</a>) and the “Wikidata item” link (linking to <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q914807" class="extiw" title="d:Q914807">d:Q914807</a>).
 </p><p>If you want to know more about the previous discussions or mention a bug or an issue, please add a comment to <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66315" class="extiw" title="phab:T66315">the related Phabricator task</a>. If you want to reply to me onwiki, please ping me so I don’t miss your message.
-</p><p>Thanks for your understanding, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lea_Lacroix_(WMDE)" title="User:Lea Lacroix (WMDE)">Lea Lacroix (WMDE)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Lea_Lacroix_(WMDE)" title="User talk:Lea Lacroix (WMDE)">talk</a>) 09:48, 8 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Lea Lacroix (WMDE)|2019-08-08T09:48:00.000Z|\u201cWikidata_item\u201d_link_to_be_moved_in_the_menu_column&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-08T09:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Lea Lacroix (WMDE)&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Lea Lacroix (WMDE)|2019-08-08T09:48:00.000Z|“Wikidata_item”_link_to_be_moved_in_the_menu_column"></span>
+</p><p>Thanks for your understanding, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lea_Lacroix_(WMDE)" title="User:Lea Lacroix (WMDE)">Lea Lacroix (WMDE)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Lea_Lacroix_(WMDE)" title="User talk:Lea Lacroix (WMDE)">talk</a>) 09:48, 8 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Lea Lacroix (WMDE)|2019-08-08T09:48:00.000Z|\u201cWikidata_item\u201d_link_to_be_moved_in_the_menu_column&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-08T09:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Lea Lacroix (WMDE)&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Lea Lacroix (WMDE)|2019-08-08T09:48:00.000Z|“Wikidata_item”_link_to_be_moved_in_the_menu_column"></span>
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 <h2><span id="What_happened_to_stub_search.3F"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="What_happened_to_stub_search?" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|What_happened_to_stub_search?|2019-08-06T18:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Vchimpanzee|2019-08-06T18:02:00.000Z|What_happened_to_stub_search?&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|What_happened_to_stub_search?|2019-08-06T18:02:00.000Z"></span>What happened to stub search?<span data-mw-comment-end="h|What_happened_to_stub_search?|2019-08-06T18:02:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Vchimpanzee|2019-08-06T18:02:00.000Z|What_happened_to_stub_search?"></span>In <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive_941#What_happened?">an archived Teahouse question</a>, this was asked. I didn't tell the person to come here because of problematic editing. But it might be useful to answer the question if someone is wondering.— <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vchimpanzee" title="User:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#070">Vchimpanzee</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Vchimpanzee" title="User talk:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#F80"> talk</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee" title="Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#700">contributions</span></a> •  18:02, 6 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vchimpanzee|2019-08-06T18:02:00.000Z|What_happened_to_stub_search?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Snaevar|2019-08-08T17:09:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-08-06T18:02:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-06T18:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vchimpanzee&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Vchimpanzee|2019-08-06T18:02:00.000Z|What_happened_to_stub_search?"></span>In <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive_941#What_happened?">an archived Teahouse question</a>, this was asked. I didn't tell the person to come here because of problematic editing. But it might be useful to answer the question if someone is wondering.— <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vchimpanzee" title="User:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#070">Vchimpanzee</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Vchimpanzee" title="User talk:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#F80"> talk</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee" title="Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#700">contributions</span></a> •  18:02, 6 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vchimpanzee|2019-08-06T18:02:00.000Z|What_happened_to_stub_search?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Snaevar|2019-08-08T17:09:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-08-06T18:02:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-06T18:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vchimpanzee&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Snaevar|2019-08-08T17:09:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-08-06T18:02:00.000Z"></span>It is probably <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Danski454/stubsearch" title="User:Danski454/stubsearch">User:Danski454/stubsearch</a>.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Snaevar" title="User:Snaevar">Snaevar</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Snaevar" title="User talk:Snaevar">talk</a>) 17:09, 8 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Snaevar|2019-08-08T17:09:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-08-06T18:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-08T17:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Snaevar&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Snaevar|2019-08-08T17:09:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-08-06T18:02:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Snaevar|2019-08-08T17:09:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-08-06T18:02:00.000Z"></span>It is probably <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Danski454/stubsearch" title="User:Danski454/stubsearch">User:Danski454/stubsearch</a>.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Snaevar" title="User:Snaevar">Snaevar</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Snaevar" title="User talk:Snaevar">talk</a>) 17:09, 8 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Snaevar|2019-08-08T17:09:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-08-06T18:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-08T17:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Snaevar&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Snaevar|2019-08-08T17:09:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-08-06T18:02:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Dark_mode_feature" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Dark_mode_feature|2019-08-08T18:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Aram|2019-08-08T18:28:00.000Z|Dark_mode_feature&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Dark_mode_feature|2019-08-08T18:28:00.000Z"></span>Dark mode feature<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Dark_mode_feature|2019-08-08T18:28:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Aram|2019-08-08T18:28:00.000Z|Dark_mode_feature"></span>Hello everyone, I'm from ckbwiki. Why Wikipedia (the mostest vistors and editors site) hasn't Dark mode feature yet?! Please try to add that feature. Some of editors edit Wikipedia at night. Our eyes are tired from white screen at night and changed to red soon. Please try to add it! Thanks! ⇒ <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Aram" title="User:Aram"><span style="color:#ff0;background:#000;font-family:cursive;text-shadow:3px 3px 5px #ff0;">Aram</span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Aram" title="User talk:Aram"><span style="color:#000;background:#ff0;font-family:cursive;text-shadow:3px 3px 5px #000;">Talk</span></a> 18:28, 8 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Aram|2019-08-08T18:28:00.000Z|Dark_mode_feature&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-08-08T19:15:00.000Z|Aram|2019-08-08T18:28:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-08T18:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Aram&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Aram|2019-08-08T18:28:00.000Z|Dark_mode_feature"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Aram|2019-08-08T18:28:00.000Z|Dark_mode_feature"></span>Hello everyone, I'm from ckbwiki. Why Wikipedia (the mostest vistors and editors site) hasn't Dark mode feature yet?! Please try to add that feature. Some of editors edit Wikipedia at night. Our eyes are tired from white screen at night and changed to red soon. Please try to add it! Thanks! ⇒ <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Aram" title="User:Aram"><span style="color:#ff0;background:#000;font-family:cursive;text-shadow:3px 3px 5px #ff0;">Aram</span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Aram" title="User talk:Aram"><span style="color:#000;background:#ff0;font-family:cursive;text-shadow:3px 3px 5px #000;">Talk</span></a> 18:28, 8 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Aram|2019-08-08T18:28:00.000Z|Dark_mode_feature&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-08-08T19:15:00.000Z|Aram|2019-08-08T18:28:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-08T18:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Aram&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Aram|2019-08-08T18:28:00.000Z|Dark_mode_feature"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ammarpad|2019-08-08T19:15:00.000Z|Aram|2019-08-08T18:28:00.000Z"></span>There's ongoing work on that: <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/4006" class="extiw" title="phab:project/profile/4006">phab:project/profile/4006</a>. – <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ammarpad" title="User:Ammarpad">Ammarpad</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ammarpad" title="User talk:Ammarpad">talk</a>) 19:15, 8 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-08-08T19:15:00.000Z|Aram|2019-08-08T18:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Yunshui|2019-08-08T19:18:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-08T19:15:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-08T19:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ammarpad&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ammarpad|2019-08-08T19:15:00.000Z|Aram|2019-08-08T18:28:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrandonXLF/Invert" title="User:BrandonXLF/Invert"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Yunshui|2019-08-08T19:18:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-08T19:15:00.000Z"></span>BrandonXLF's Inverter script</a> is a useful tool in the interim. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Yunshui" title="User:Yunshui">Yunshui</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Yunshui" title="User talk:Yunshui"><sup style="font-size:90%">雲</sup></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Yunshui" title="Special:Contributions/Yunshui"><sub style="font-size:90%">水</sub></a> 19:18, 8 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Yunshui|2019-08-08T19:18:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-08T19:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Aram|2019-08-08T21:07:00.000Z|Yunshui|2019-08-08T19:18:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-08T19:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Yunshui&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Yunshui|2019-08-08T19:18:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-08T19:15:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Aram|2019-08-08T21:07:00.000Z|Yunshui|2019-08-08T19:18:00.000Z"></span>Ammarpad, That is good news! I'm waiting... and Yunshui, thank you for putting that tool! ⇒ <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Aram" title="User:Aram"><span style="color:#ff0;background:#000;font-family:cursive;text-shadow:3px 3px 5px #ff0;">Aram</span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Aram" title="User talk:Aram"><span style="color:#000;background:#ff0;font-family:cursive;text-shadow:3px 3px 5px #000;">Talk</span></a> 21:07, 8 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Aram|2019-08-08T21:07:00.000Z|Yunshui|2019-08-08T19:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-08T21:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Aram&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Aram|2019-08-08T21:07:00.000Z|Yunshui|2019-08-08T19:18:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ammarpad|2019-08-08T19:15:00.000Z|Aram|2019-08-08T18:28:00.000Z"></span>There's ongoing work on that: <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/4006" class="extiw" title="phab:project/profile/4006">phab:project/profile/4006</a>. – <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ammarpad" title="User:Ammarpad">Ammarpad</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ammarpad" title="User talk:Ammarpad">talk</a>) 19:15, 8 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-08-08T19:15:00.000Z|Aram|2019-08-08T18:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Yunshui|2019-08-08T19:18:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-08T19:15:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-08T19:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ammarpad&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ammarpad|2019-08-08T19:15:00.000Z|Aram|2019-08-08T18:28:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrandonXLF/Invert" title="User:BrandonXLF/Invert"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Yunshui|2019-08-08T19:18:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-08T19:15:00.000Z"></span>BrandonXLF's Inverter script</a> is a useful tool in the interim. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Yunshui" title="User:Yunshui">Yunshui</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Yunshui" title="User talk:Yunshui"><sup style="font-size:90%">雲</sup></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Yunshui" title="Special:Contributions/Yunshui"><sub style="font-size:90%">水</sub></a> 19:18, 8 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Yunshui|2019-08-08T19:18:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-08T19:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Aram|2019-08-08T21:07:00.000Z|Yunshui|2019-08-08T19:18:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-08T19:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Yunshui&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Yunshui|2019-08-08T19:18:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-08T19:15:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Aram|2019-08-08T21:07:00.000Z|Yunshui|2019-08-08T19:18:00.000Z"></span>Ammarpad, That is good news! I'm waiting... and Yunshui, thank you for putting that tool! ⇒ <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Aram" title="User:Aram"><span style="color:#ff0;background:#000;font-family:cursive;text-shadow:3px 3px 5px #ff0;">Aram</span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Aram" title="User talk:Aram"><span style="color:#000;background:#ff0;font-family:cursive;text-shadow:3px 3px 5px #000;">Talk</span></a> 21:07, 8 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Aram|2019-08-08T21:07:00.000Z|Yunshui|2019-08-08T19:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-08T21:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Aram&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Aram|2019-08-08T21:07:00.000Z|Yunshui|2019-08-08T19:18:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id="Tool_to_rollback_an_edit_that_sinebot_signed.3F"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Tool_to_rollback_an_edit_that_sinebot_signed?" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Tool_to_rollback_an_edit_that_sinebot_signed?|2019-08-09T07:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Someguy1221|2019-08-09T07:48:00.000Z|Tool_to_rollback_an_edit_that_sinebot_signed?&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Tool_to_rollback_an_edit_that_sinebot_signed?|2019-08-09T07:48:00.000Z"></span>Tool to rollback an edit that sinebot signed?<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Tool_to_rollback_an_edit_that_sinebot_signed?|2019-08-09T07:48:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Someguy1221|2019-08-09T07:48:00.000Z|Tool_to_rollback_an_edit_that_sinebot_signed?"></span>Basically the header. Very very often I revert vandalism or otherwise unconstructive edits to talk pages, but I can't use the rollback or undo buttons because sinebot already signed it, so now I have to revert two edits by two different users. Is there any tool or javascript or something that would let me revert such a pair of edits as easily as using rollback? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Someguy1221" title="User:Someguy1221">Someguy1221</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Someguy1221" title="User talk:Someguy1221">talk</a>) 07:48, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Someguy1221|2019-08-09T07:48:00.000Z|Tool_to_rollback_an_edit_that_sinebot_signed?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|John of Reading|2019-08-09T07:57:00.000Z|Someguy1221|2019-08-09T07:48:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T07:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Someguy1221&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Someguy1221|2019-08-09T07:48:00.000Z|Tool_to_rollback_an_edit_that_sinebot_signed?"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Someguy1221|2019-08-09T07:48:00.000Z|Tool_to_rollback_an_edit_that_sinebot_signed?"></span>Basically the header. Very very often I revert vandalism or otherwise unconstructive edits to talk pages, but I can't use the rollback or undo buttons because sinebot already signed it, so now I have to revert two edits by two different users. Is there any tool or javascript or something that would let me revert such a pair of edits as easily as using rollback? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Someguy1221" title="User:Someguy1221">Someguy1221</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Someguy1221" title="User talk:Someguy1221">talk</a>) 07:48, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Someguy1221|2019-08-09T07:48:00.000Z|Tool_to_rollback_an_edit_that_sinebot_signed?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|John of Reading|2019-08-09T07:57:00.000Z|Someguy1221|2019-08-09T07:48:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T07:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Someguy1221&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Someguy1221|2019-08-09T07:48:00.000Z|Tool_to_rollback_an_edit_that_sinebot_signed?"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|John of Reading|2019-08-09T07:57:00.000Z|Someguy1221|2019-08-09T07:48:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Someguy1221" title="User:Someguy1221">Someguy1221</a>:</span> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:TW" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TW">Twinkle</a>'s rollback knows about sinebot. If you ask it to rollback the sinebot edit, it will ask you whether you want to rollback the previous edit as well. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:John_of_Reading" title="User:John of Reading">John of Reading</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading" title="User talk:John of Reading">talk</a>) 07:57, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|John of Reading|2019-08-09T07:57:00.000Z|Someguy1221|2019-08-09T07:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T07:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;John of Reading&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|John of Reading|2019-08-09T07:57:00.000Z|Someguy1221|2019-08-09T07:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|John of Reading|2019-08-09T07:57:00.000Z|Someguy1221|2019-08-09T07:48:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Someguy1221" title="User:Someguy1221">Someguy1221</a>:</span> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:TW" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TW">Twinkle</a>'s rollback knows about sinebot. If you ask it to rollback the sinebot edit, it will ask you whether you want to rollback the previous edit as well. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:John_of_Reading" title="User:John of Reading">John of Reading</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading" title="User talk:John of Reading">talk</a>) 07:57, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|John of Reading|2019-08-09T07:57:00.000Z|Someguy1221|2019-08-09T07:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T07:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;John of Reading&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|John of Reading|2019-08-09T07:57:00.000Z|Someguy1221|2019-08-09T07:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Monniasza|2019-08-07T09:00:00.000Z|Add_printworthy_{{R_slang}}_rcat_template"></span>{{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:R_slang" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:R slang">R slang</a>}} will tag redirects from slangs. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Monniasza" title="User:Monniasza">Monniasza</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Monniasza" title="User talk:Monniasza">talk</a>  09:00, 7 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Monniasza|2019-08-07T09:00:00.000Z|Add_printworthy_{{R_slang}}_rcat_template&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-07T10:25:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-08-07T09:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Wugapodes|2019-08-09T08:19:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-08-07T09:00:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-07T09:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Monniasza&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Monniasza|2019-08-07T09:00:00.000Z|Add_printworthy_{{R_slang}}_rcat_template"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Monniasza|2019-08-07T09:00:00.000Z|Add_printworthy_{{R_slang}}_rcat_template"></span>{{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:R_slang" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:R slang">R slang</a>}} will tag redirects from slangs. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Monniasza" title="User:Monniasza">Monniasza</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Monniasza" title="User talk:Monniasza">talk</a>  09:00, 7 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Monniasza|2019-08-07T09:00:00.000Z|Add_printworthy_{{R_slang}}_rcat_template&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-07T10:25:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-08-07T09:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Wugapodes|2019-08-09T08:19:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-08-07T09:00:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-07T09:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Monniasza&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Monniasza|2019-08-07T09:00:00.000Z|Add_printworthy_{{R_slang}}_rcat_template"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-07T10:25:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-08-07T09:00:00.000Z"></span>We have {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:R_from_alternative_name" title="Template:R from alternative name">R from alternative name</a>}}. I'm not sure slang is well-defined enough when there are many varieties of English. Anyway, this is not a technical issue. It could be suggested at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Template_messages/Redirect_pages" title="Wikipedia talk:Template messages/Redirect pages">Wikipedia talk:Template messages/Redirect pages</a> or <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Redirect">Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Redirect</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 10:25, 7 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-07T10:25:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-08-07T09:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-07T10:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-07T10:25:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-08-07T09:00:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Wugapodes|2019-08-09T08:19:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-08-07T09:00:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Monniasza" title="User:Monniasza">Monniasza</a>:</span> I redirected it to {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:R_from_synonym" title="Template:R from synonym">r from synonym</a>}}. You can start tagging pages with it, and if we ever want to distinguish slang from other kinds of synonyms, the pages won't have to be resorted. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wugapodes" title="User:Wugapodes">Wug·</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Wugapodes" title="User talk:Wugapodes">a·po·des</a>​ 08:19, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Wugapodes|2019-08-09T08:19:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-08-07T09:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T08:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Wugapodes&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Wugapodes|2019-08-09T08:19:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-08-07T09:00:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-07T10:25:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-08-07T09:00:00.000Z"></span>We have {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:R_from_alternative_name" title="Template:R from alternative name">R from alternative name</a>}}. I'm not sure slang is well-defined enough when there are many varieties of English. Anyway, this is not a technical issue. It could be suggested at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Template_messages/Redirect_pages" title="Wikipedia talk:Template messages/Redirect pages">Wikipedia talk:Template messages/Redirect pages</a> or <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Redirect">Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Redirect</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 10:25, 7 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-07T10:25:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-08-07T09:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-07T10:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-07T10:25:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-08-07T09:00:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Wugapodes|2019-08-09T08:19:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-08-07T09:00:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Monniasza" title="User:Monniasza">Monniasza</a>:</span> I redirected it to {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:R_from_synonym" title="Template:R from synonym">r from synonym</a>}}. You can start tagging pages with it, and if we ever want to distinguish slang from other kinds of synonyms, the pages won't have to be resorted. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wugapodes" title="User:Wugapodes">Wug·</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Wugapodes" title="User talk:Wugapodes">a·po·des</a>​ 08:19, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Wugapodes|2019-08-09T08:19:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-08-07T09:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T08:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Wugapodes&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Wugapodes|2019-08-09T08:19:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-08-07T09:00:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
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 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T11:32:00.000Z|User_talk:GregU/dashes.js"></span>I just noticed that <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GregU/dashes.js" title="User:GregU/dashes.js">User:GregU/dashes.js</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GregU/dashes.js" title="User talk:GregU/dashes.js">User talk:GregU/dashes.js</a>) is changing the blue linked time zone <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%E2%88%9208:00" title="UTC−08:00">UTC−08:00</a> (see <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lumby,_British_Columbia" title="Lumby, British Columbia">Lumby, British Columbia</a>) to the red linked <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=UTC%E2%80%93_08:00&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="UTC– 08:00 (page does not exist)">UTC– 08:00</a> (see <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lumby%2C_British_Columbia&amp;type=revision&amp;diff=909724370&amp;oldid=902180163">here</a>). It seems that <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:U:GregU&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:U:GregU (page does not exist)">Template:U:GregU</a> hasen't edited since 2012. It needs to get fixed. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CambridgeBayWeather" title="User:CambridgeBayWeather">CambridgeBayWeather</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:CambridgeBayWeather" title="User talk:CambridgeBayWeather">Uqaqtuq (talk)</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/CambridgeBayWeather" title="Special:Contributions/CambridgeBayWeather">Sunasuttuq</a> 11:32, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
-Oh, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GregU" title="User:GregU">GregU</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CambridgeBayWeather" title="User:CambridgeBayWeather">CambridgeBayWeather</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:CambridgeBayWeather" title="User talk:CambridgeBayWeather">Uqaqtuq (talk)</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/CambridgeBayWeather" title="Special:Contributions/CambridgeBayWeather">Sunasuttuq</a> 11:34, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T11:32:00.000Z|User_talk:GregU\/dashes.js&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-09T11:40:00.000Z|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T11:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-09T12:04:00.000Z|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T11:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-09T12:08:00.000Z|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T11:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T11:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;CambridgeBayWeather&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T11:32:00.000Z|User_talk:GregU/dashes.js"></span>
+Oh, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GregU" title="User:GregU">GregU</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CambridgeBayWeather" title="User:CambridgeBayWeather">CambridgeBayWeather</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:CambridgeBayWeather" title="User talk:CambridgeBayWeather">Uqaqtuq (talk)</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/CambridgeBayWeather" title="Special:Contributions/CambridgeBayWeather">Sunasuttuq</a> 11:34, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T11:32:00.000Z|User_talk:GregU\/dashes.js&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-09T11:40:00.000Z|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T11:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-09T12:04:00.000Z|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T11:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-09T12:08:00.000Z|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T11:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T11:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;CambridgeBayWeather&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T11:32:00.000Z|User_talk:GregU/dashes.js"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-09T11:40:00.000Z|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T11:32:00.000Z"></span>Someone should fork that or convert it to a gadget, relying on other people's personal scripts leads to exactly this situation when they stop being maintained.  That being said, if someone has a very minor fix to suggest, drop an edit request at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GregU/dashes.js" title="User talk:GregU/dashes.js">User talk:GregU/dashes.js</a> and an interface admin will consider it. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 11:40, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-09T11:40:00.000Z|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T11:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T11:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-09T11:40:00.000Z|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T11:32:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span style="font-family: 'Georgia Pro', Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-09T12:04:00.000Z|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T11:32:00.000Z"></span>I</span> noticed some problematical edits (or, rather, inaccurate edit summaries) by this script earlier, but the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lumby,_British_Columbia" title="Lumby, British Columbia">Lumby, British Columbia</a> edit is equivalent to vandalism. If the diff was not forged, then the script should to be disabled as soon as possible. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User:Incnis Mrsi">Incnis Mrsi</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User talk:Incnis Mrsi">talk</a>) 12:04, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-09T12:04:00.000Z|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T11:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T12:08:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-09T12:04:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T12:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Incnis Mrsi&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-09T12:04:00.000Z|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T11:32:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T12:08:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-09T12:04:00.000Z"></span>It's been doing it for a <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Williams_Lake%2C_British_Columbia&amp;type=revision&amp;diff=649094648&amp;oldid=649094574">while</a>. I am tempted to just delete it. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CambridgeBayWeather" title="User:CambridgeBayWeather">CambridgeBayWeather</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:CambridgeBayWeather" title="User talk:CambridgeBayWeather">Uqaqtuq (talk)</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/CambridgeBayWeather" title="Special:Contributions/CambridgeBayWeather">Sunasuttuq</a> 12:08, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T12:08:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-09T12:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-09T12:14:00.000Z|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T12:08:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T12:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;CambridgeBayWeather&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T12:08:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-09T12:04:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-09T12:14:00.000Z|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T12:08:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CambridgeBayWeather" title="User:CambridgeBayWeather">CambridgeBayWeather</a>:</span> yes, castrate this being, please. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User:Incnis Mrsi">Incnis Mrsi</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User talk:Incnis Mrsi">talk</a>) 12:14, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-09T12:14:00.000Z|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T12:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T12:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Incnis Mrsi&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-09T12:14:00.000Z|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T12:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-09T12:08:00.000Z|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T11:32:00.000Z"></span>Or wait, was it really <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GregU/dashes.js" title="User:GregU/dashes.js">User:GregU/dashes.js</a> at fault? The edit summary has <i>two</i> script links, the second is one <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:MOSNUMscript" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MOSNUMscript">WP:MOSNUMscript</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User:Incnis Mrsi">Incnis Mrsi</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User talk:Incnis Mrsi">talk</a>) 12:08, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-09T12:08:00.000Z|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T11:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T12:32:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-09T12:08:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T12:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Incnis Mrsi&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-09T12:08:00.000Z|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T11:32:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T12:32:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-09T12:08:00.000Z"></span>The second of my links to the <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Williams_Lake%2C_British_Columbia&amp;type=revision&amp;diff=649094648&amp;oldid=649094574">2015 edit</a> only has the one script. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CambridgeBayWeather" title="User:CambridgeBayWeather">CambridgeBayWeather</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:CambridgeBayWeather" title="User talk:CambridgeBayWeather">Uqaqtuq (talk)</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/CambridgeBayWeather" title="Special:Contributions/CambridgeBayWeather">Sunasuttuq</a> 12:32, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T12:32:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-09T12:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T12:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;CambridgeBayWeather&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T12:32:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-09T12:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-09T11:40:00.000Z|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T11:32:00.000Z"></span>Someone should fork that or convert it to a gadget, relying on other people's personal scripts leads to exactly this situation when they stop being maintained.  That being said, if someone has a very minor fix to suggest, drop an edit request at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GregU/dashes.js" title="User talk:GregU/dashes.js">User talk:GregU/dashes.js</a> and an interface admin will consider it. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 11:40, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-09T11:40:00.000Z|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T11:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T11:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-09T11:40:00.000Z|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T11:32:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span style="font-family: 'Georgia Pro', Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-09T12:04:00.000Z|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T11:32:00.000Z"></span>I</span> noticed some problematical edits (or, rather, inaccurate edit summaries) by this script earlier, but the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lumby,_British_Columbia" title="Lumby, British Columbia">Lumby, British Columbia</a> edit is equivalent to vandalism. If the diff was not forged, then the script should to be disabled as soon as possible. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User:Incnis Mrsi">Incnis Mrsi</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User talk:Incnis Mrsi">talk</a>) 12:04, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-09T12:04:00.000Z|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T11:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T12:08:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-09T12:04:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T12:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Incnis Mrsi&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-09T12:04:00.000Z|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T11:32:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T12:08:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-09T12:04:00.000Z"></span>It's been doing it for a <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Williams_Lake%2C_British_Columbia&amp;type=revision&amp;diff=649094648&amp;oldid=649094574">while</a>. I am tempted to just delete it. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CambridgeBayWeather" title="User:CambridgeBayWeather">CambridgeBayWeather</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:CambridgeBayWeather" title="User talk:CambridgeBayWeather">Uqaqtuq (talk)</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/CambridgeBayWeather" title="Special:Contributions/CambridgeBayWeather">Sunasuttuq</a> 12:08, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T12:08:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-09T12:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-09T12:14:00.000Z|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T12:08:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T12:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;CambridgeBayWeather&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T12:08:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-09T12:04:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-09T12:14:00.000Z|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T12:08:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CambridgeBayWeather" title="User:CambridgeBayWeather">CambridgeBayWeather</a>:</span> yes, castrate this being, please. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User:Incnis Mrsi">Incnis Mrsi</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User talk:Incnis Mrsi">talk</a>) 12:14, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-09T12:14:00.000Z|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T12:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T12:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Incnis Mrsi&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-09T12:14:00.000Z|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T12:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-09T12:08:00.000Z|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T11:32:00.000Z"></span>Or wait, was it really <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GregU/dashes.js" title="User:GregU/dashes.js">User:GregU/dashes.js</a> at fault? The edit summary has <i>two</i> script links, the second is one <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:MOSNUMscript" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MOSNUMscript">WP:MOSNUMscript</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User:Incnis Mrsi">Incnis Mrsi</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User talk:Incnis Mrsi">talk</a>) 12:08, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-09T12:08:00.000Z|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T11:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T12:32:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-09T12:08:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T12:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Incnis Mrsi&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-09T12:08:00.000Z|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T11:32:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T12:32:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-09T12:08:00.000Z"></span>The second of my links to the <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Williams_Lake%2C_British_Columbia&amp;type=revision&amp;diff=649094648&amp;oldid=649094574">2015 edit</a> only has the one script. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CambridgeBayWeather" title="User:CambridgeBayWeather">CambridgeBayWeather</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:CambridgeBayWeather" title="User talk:CambridgeBayWeather">Uqaqtuq (talk)</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/CambridgeBayWeather" title="Special:Contributions/CambridgeBayWeather">Sunasuttuq</a> 12:32, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T12:32:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-09T12:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T12:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;CambridgeBayWeather&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|CambridgeBayWeather|2019-08-09T12:32:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-09T12:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Every_rcat_template_should_add_Category:Redirects_with_target_different_from_correct_name" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Every_rcat_template_should_add_Category:Redirects_with_target_different_from_cor|2019-08-09T07:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Monniasza|2019-08-09T07:01:00.000Z|Every_rcat_template_should_add_Category:Redirects_with_target_different_from_cor&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Every_rcat_template_should_add_Category:Redirects_with_target_different_from_cor|2019-08-09T07:01:00.000Z"></span>Every rcat template should add <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Redirects_with_target_different_from_correct_name&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Redirects with target different from correct name (page does not exist)">Category:Redirects with target different from correct name</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h|Every_rcat_template_should_add_Category:Redirects_with_target_different_from_cor|2019-08-09T07:01:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Monniasza|2019-08-09T07:01:00.000Z|Every_rcat_template_should_add_Category:Redirects_with_target_different_from_cor"></span>Hi, rcats don't provide afromentioned maitenance category. Please make rcats use category if target is different than correct form. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Monniasza" title="User:Monniasza">Monniasza</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Monniasza" title="User talk:Monniasza">talk</a>  07:01, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Monniasza|2019-08-09T07:01:00.000Z|Every_rcat_template_should_add_Category:Redirects_with_target_different_from_cor&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Anomie|2019-08-09T14:25:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-08-09T07:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T07:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Monniasza&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Monniasza|2019-08-09T07:01:00.000Z|Every_rcat_template_should_add_Category:Redirects_with_target_different_from_cor"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Monniasza|2019-08-09T07:01:00.000Z|Every_rcat_template_should_add_Category:Redirects_with_target_different_from_cor"></span>Hi, rcats don't provide afromentioned maitenance category. Please make rcats use category if target is different than correct form. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Monniasza" title="User:Monniasza">Monniasza</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Monniasza" title="User talk:Monniasza">talk</a>  07:01, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Monniasza|2019-08-09T07:01:00.000Z|Every_rcat_template_should_add_Category:Redirects_with_target_different_from_cor&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Anomie|2019-08-09T14:25:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-08-09T07:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T07:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Monniasza&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Monniasza|2019-08-09T07:01:00.000Z|Every_rcat_template_should_add_Category:Redirects_with_target_different_from_cor"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Anomie|2019-08-09T14:25:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-08-09T07:01:00.000Z"></span>That category doesn't exist. Nor does the name actually match the use you propose for it (not all redirects are "target different from correct name"). Also, what use would there be to a category containing every redirect? You could as well use <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ListRedirects" title="Special:ListRedirects">Special:ListRedirects</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anomie" title="User:Anomie">Anomie</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anomie" title="User talk:Anomie">⚔</a> 14:25, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Anomie|2019-08-09T14:25:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-08-09T07:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T14:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Anomie&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Anomie|2019-08-09T14:25:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-08-09T07:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Anomie|2019-08-09T14:25:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-08-09T07:01:00.000Z"></span>That category doesn't exist. Nor does the name actually match the use you propose for it (not all redirects are "target different from correct name"). Also, what use would there be to a category containing every redirect? You could as well use <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ListRedirects" title="Special:ListRedirects">Special:ListRedirects</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anomie" title="User:Anomie">Anomie</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anomie" title="User talk:Anomie">⚔</a> 14:25, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Anomie|2019-08-09T14:25:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-08-09T07:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T14:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Anomie&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Anomie|2019-08-09T14:25:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-08-09T07:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|GrahamHardy|2019-08-08T23:04:00.000Z|interwiki_links"></span>Hi, can somene link <a class="external free" href="https://sq.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_penguara">https://sq.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_penguara</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Girl_in_Exile" title="A Girl in Exile">A Girl in Exile</a>, I think there's a page in German also... Thanks <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GrahamHardy" title="User:GrahamHardy">GrahamHardy</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GrahamHardy" title="User talk:GrahamHardy">talk</a>) 23:04, 8 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GrahamHardy|2019-08-08T23:04:00.000Z|interwiki_links&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|\u00dejarkur|2019-08-08T23:11:00.000Z|GrahamHardy|2019-08-08T23:04:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-08T23:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GrahamHardy&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GrahamHardy|2019-08-08T23:04:00.000Z|interwiki_links"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|GrahamHardy|2019-08-08T23:04:00.000Z|interwiki_links"></span>Hi, can somene link <a class="external free" href="https://sq.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_penguara">https://sq.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_penguara</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Girl_in_Exile" title="A Girl in Exile">A Girl in Exile</a>, I think there's a page in German also... Thanks <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GrahamHardy" title="User:GrahamHardy">GrahamHardy</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GrahamHardy" title="User talk:GrahamHardy">talk</a>) 23:04, 8 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GrahamHardy|2019-08-08T23:04:00.000Z|interwiki_links&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|\u00dejarkur|2019-08-08T23:11:00.000Z|GrahamHardy|2019-08-08T23:04:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-08T23:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GrahamHardy&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GrahamHardy|2019-08-08T23:04:00.000Z|interwiki_links"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Þjarkur|2019-08-08T23:11:00.000Z|GrahamHardy|2019-08-08T23:04:00.000Z"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/27px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/36px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> <b>Done</b> – <b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%C3%9Ejarkur" title="User:Þjarkur">Thjarkur</a></b> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%C3%9Ejarkur" title="User talk:Þjarkur">(talk)</a> 23:11, 8 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u00dejarkur|2019-08-08T23:11:00.000Z|GrahamHardy|2019-08-08T23:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-08T23:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u00dejarkur&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Þjarkur|2019-08-08T23:11:00.000Z|GrahamHardy|2019-08-08T23:04:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Þjarkur|2019-08-08T23:11:00.000Z|GrahamHardy|2019-08-08T23:04:00.000Z"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/27px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/36px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> <b>Done</b> – <b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%C3%9Ejarkur" title="User:Þjarkur">Thjarkur</a></b> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%C3%9Ejarkur" title="User talk:Þjarkur">(talk)</a> 23:11, 8 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u00dejarkur|2019-08-08T23:11:00.000Z|GrahamHardy|2019-08-08T23:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-08T23:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u00dejarkur&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Þjarkur|2019-08-08T23:11:00.000Z|GrahamHardy|2019-08-08T23:04:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|GrahamHardy|2019-08-09T04:59:00.000Z|interwiki_links"></span>Thanks, also <a class="external free" href="https://sq.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lulet_e_ftohta_t%C3%AB_marsit">https://sq.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lulet_e_ftohta_t%C3%AB_marsit</a> needs linking to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring_Flowers,_Spring_Frost" title="Spring Flowers, Spring Frost">Spring Flowers, Spring Frost</a> and Swedish article, Thanks <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GrahamHardy" title="User:GrahamHardy">GrahamHardy</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GrahamHardy" title="User talk:GrahamHardy">talk</a>) 04:59, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
-above now done, but <a class="external free" href="https://sq.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dosja_H">https://sq.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dosja_H</a> needs linking to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_File_on_H." title="The File on H.">The File on H.</a> Thanks <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GrahamHardy" title="User:GrahamHardy">GrahamHardy</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GrahamHardy" title="User talk:GrahamHardy">talk</a>) 00:00, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GrahamHardy|2019-08-09T04:59:00.000Z|interwiki_links&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T00:36:00.000Z|GrahamHardy|2019-08-09T04:59:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T04:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GrahamHardy&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GrahamHardy|2019-08-09T04:59:00.000Z|interwiki_links"></span>
+above now done, but <a class="external free" href="https://sq.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dosja_H">https://sq.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dosja_H</a> needs linking to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_File_on_H." title="The File on H.">The File on H.</a> Thanks <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GrahamHardy" title="User:GrahamHardy">GrahamHardy</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GrahamHardy" title="User talk:GrahamHardy">talk</a>) 00:00, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GrahamHardy|2019-08-09T04:59:00.000Z|interwiki_links&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T00:36:00.000Z|GrahamHardy|2019-08-09T04:59:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T04:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GrahamHardy&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GrahamHardy|2019-08-09T04:59:00.000Z|interwiki_links"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T00:36:00.000Z|GrahamHardy|2019-08-09T04:59:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GrahamHardy" title="User:GrahamHardy">GrahamHardy</a>:</span> you can do these yourself, on the left side panel there is a section called "languages", click the little pencil icon in there and you can add interwiki links. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 00:36, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T00:36:00.000Z|GrahamHardy|2019-08-09T04:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T00:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T00:36:00.000Z|GrahamHardy|2019-08-09T04:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T00:36:00.000Z|GrahamHardy|2019-08-09T04:59:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GrahamHardy" title="User:GrahamHardy">GrahamHardy</a>:</span> you can do these yourself, on the left side panel there is a section called "languages", click the little pencil icon in there and you can add interwiki links. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 00:36, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T00:36:00.000Z|GrahamHardy|2019-08-09T04:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T00:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T00:36:00.000Z|GrahamHardy|2019-08-09T04:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Glitch_on_Lorrie_Morgan" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Glitch_on_Lorrie_Morgan|2019-08-09T23:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|TenPoundHammer|2019-08-09T23:45:00.000Z|Glitch_on_Lorrie_Morgan&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Glitch_on_Lorrie_Morgan|2019-08-09T23:45:00.000Z"></span>Glitch on <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorrie_Morgan" title="Lorrie Morgan">Lorrie Morgan</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h|Glitch_on_Lorrie_Morgan|2019-08-09T23:45:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|TenPoundHammer|2019-08-09T23:45:00.000Z|Glitch_on_Lorrie_Morgan"></span>For some reason, the picture of <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Whitley" title="Keith Whitley">Keith Whitley</a> is not displaying under the "personal life"section of <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorrie_Morgan" title="Lorrie Morgan">Lorrie Morgan</a>. Purging the cache hasn't helped. Any idea what's causing this? All other pictures are showing up, just not that one. <span style="color:green"><b>Ten Pound Hammer</b></span> • <sup>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TenPoundHammer" title="User talk:TenPoundHammer">What did I screw up now?</a>)</sup> 23:45, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|TenPoundHammer|2019-08-09T23:45:00.000Z|Glitch_on_Lorrie_Morgan&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T00:37:00.000Z|TenPoundHammer|2019-08-09T23:45:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T23:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;TenPoundHammer&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|TenPoundHammer|2019-08-09T23:45:00.000Z|Glitch_on_Lorrie_Morgan"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|TenPoundHammer|2019-08-09T23:45:00.000Z|Glitch_on_Lorrie_Morgan"></span>For some reason, the picture of <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Whitley" title="Keith Whitley">Keith Whitley</a> is not displaying under the "personal life"section of <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorrie_Morgan" title="Lorrie Morgan">Lorrie Morgan</a>. Purging the cache hasn't helped. Any idea what's causing this? All other pictures are showing up, just not that one. <span style="color:green"><b>Ten Pound Hammer</b></span> • <sup>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TenPoundHammer" title="User talk:TenPoundHammer">What did I screw up now?</a>)</sup> 23:45, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|TenPoundHammer|2019-08-09T23:45:00.000Z|Glitch_on_Lorrie_Morgan&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T00:37:00.000Z|TenPoundHammer|2019-08-09T23:45:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T23:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;TenPoundHammer&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|TenPoundHammer|2019-08-09T23:45:00.000Z|Glitch_on_Lorrie_Morgan"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T00:37:00.000Z|TenPoundHammer|2019-08-09T23:45:00.000Z"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Pictogram_voting_support.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_support.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Pictogram_voting_support.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_support.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Pictogram_voting_support.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_support.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="249" data-file-height="249"/> <b>Works for me</b> <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TenPoundHammer" title="User:TenPoundHammer">TenPoundHammer</a>:</span> are you still having this issue? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 00:37, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T00:37:00.000Z|TenPoundHammer|2019-08-09T23:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|TenPoundHammer|2019-08-10T00:44:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T00:37:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T00:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T00:37:00.000Z|TenPoundHammer|2019-08-09T23:45:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|TenPoundHammer|2019-08-10T00:44:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T00:37:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux">Xaosflux</a>:</span> Yes, and a purge isn't doing anything. <span style="color:green"><b>Ten Pound Hammer</b></span> • <sup>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TenPoundHammer" title="User talk:TenPoundHammer">What did I screw up now?</a>)</sup> 00:44, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|TenPoundHammer|2019-08-10T00:44:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T00:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T01:29:00.000Z|TenPoundHammer|2019-08-10T00:44:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T00:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;TenPoundHammer&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|TenPoundHammer|2019-08-10T00:44:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T00:37:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T01:29:00.000Z|TenPoundHammer|2019-08-10T00:44:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TenPoundHammer" title="User:TenPoundHammer">TenPoundHammer</a>:</span> how about now? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 01:29, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T01:29:00.000Z|TenPoundHammer|2019-08-10T00:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T01:30:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T01:29:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T01:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T01:29:00.000Z|TenPoundHammer|2019-08-10T00:44:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T01:30:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T01:29:00.000Z"></span>And if not, can you try looking with a different browser - in case you somehow are applying something like an ad-block to it? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 01:30, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T01:30:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T01:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|TenPoundHammer|2019-08-10T02:00:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T01:30:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T01:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T01:30:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T01:29:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|TenPoundHammer|2019-08-10T02:00:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T01:30:00.000Z"></span>It seems to be working now. <span style="color:green"><b>Ten Pound Hammer</b></span> • <sup>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TenPoundHammer" title="User talk:TenPoundHammer">What did I screw up now?</a>)</sup> 02:00, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|TenPoundHammer|2019-08-10T02:00:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T01:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T02:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;TenPoundHammer&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|TenPoundHammer|2019-08-10T02:00:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T01:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T00:37:00.000Z|TenPoundHammer|2019-08-09T23:45:00.000Z"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Pictogram_voting_support.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_support.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Pictogram_voting_support.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_support.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Pictogram_voting_support.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_support.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="249" data-file-height="249"/> <b>Works for me</b> <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TenPoundHammer" title="User:TenPoundHammer">TenPoundHammer</a>:</span> are you still having this issue? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 00:37, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T00:37:00.000Z|TenPoundHammer|2019-08-09T23:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|TenPoundHammer|2019-08-10T00:44:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T00:37:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T00:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T00:37:00.000Z|TenPoundHammer|2019-08-09T23:45:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|TenPoundHammer|2019-08-10T00:44:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T00:37:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux">Xaosflux</a>:</span> Yes, and a purge isn't doing anything. <span style="color:green"><b>Ten Pound Hammer</b></span> • <sup>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TenPoundHammer" title="User talk:TenPoundHammer">What did I screw up now?</a>)</sup> 00:44, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|TenPoundHammer|2019-08-10T00:44:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T00:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T01:29:00.000Z|TenPoundHammer|2019-08-10T00:44:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T00:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;TenPoundHammer&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|TenPoundHammer|2019-08-10T00:44:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T00:37:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T01:29:00.000Z|TenPoundHammer|2019-08-10T00:44:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TenPoundHammer" title="User:TenPoundHammer">TenPoundHammer</a>:</span> how about now? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 01:29, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T01:29:00.000Z|TenPoundHammer|2019-08-10T00:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T01:30:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T01:29:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T01:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T01:29:00.000Z|TenPoundHammer|2019-08-10T00:44:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T01:30:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T01:29:00.000Z"></span>And if not, can you try looking with a different browser - in case you somehow are applying something like an ad-block to it? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 01:30, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T01:30:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T01:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|TenPoundHammer|2019-08-10T02:00:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T01:30:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T01:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T01:30:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T01:29:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|TenPoundHammer|2019-08-10T02:00:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T01:30:00.000Z"></span>It seems to be working now. <span style="color:green"><b>Ten Pound Hammer</b></span> • <sup>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TenPoundHammer" title="User talk:TenPoundHammer">What did I screw up now?</a>)</sup> 02:00, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|TenPoundHammer|2019-08-10T02:00:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T01:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T02:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;TenPoundHammer&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|TenPoundHammer|2019-08-10T02:00:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T01:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id="Unified_Login_broken_.28at_least_for_Commons.29.3F"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Unified_Login_broken_(at_least_for_Commons)?" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Unified_Login_broken_(at_least_for_Commons)?|2019-08-10T02:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|ElKevbo|2019-08-10T02:46:00.000Z|Unified_Login_broken_(at_least_for_Commons)?&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Unified_Login_broken_(at_least_for_Commons)?|2019-08-10T02:46:00.000Z"></span>Unified Login broken (at least for Commons)?<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Unified_Login_broken_(at_least_for_Commons)?|2019-08-10T02:46:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|ElKevbo|2019-08-10T02:46:00.000Z|Unified_Login_broken_(at_least_for_Commons)?"></span>Quick check: Is <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Unified_login" title="Wikipedia:Unified login">unified login</a> broken - at least for Commons - for anyone else?  I'm logged in here but not logged into Commons; I didn't even know that this was possible anymore. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ElKevbo" title="User:ElKevbo">ElKevbo</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ElKevbo" title="User talk:ElKevbo">talk</a>) 02:46, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ElKevbo|2019-08-10T02:46:00.000Z|Unified_Login_broken_(at_least_for_Commons)?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T04:49:00.000Z|ElKevbo|2019-08-10T02:46:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T02:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ElKevbo&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ElKevbo|2019-08-10T02:46:00.000Z|Unified_Login_broken_(at_least_for_Commons)?"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|ElKevbo|2019-08-10T02:46:00.000Z|Unified_Login_broken_(at_least_for_Commons)?"></span>Quick check: Is <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Unified_login" title="Wikipedia:Unified login">unified login</a> broken - at least for Commons - for anyone else?  I'm logged in here but not logged into Commons; I didn't even know that this was possible anymore. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ElKevbo" title="User:ElKevbo">ElKevbo</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ElKevbo" title="User talk:ElKevbo">talk</a>) 02:46, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ElKevbo|2019-08-10T02:46:00.000Z|Unified_Login_broken_(at_least_for_Commons)?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T04:49:00.000Z|ElKevbo|2019-08-10T02:46:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T02:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ElKevbo&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ElKevbo|2019-08-10T02:46:00.000Z|Unified_Login_broken_(at_least_for_Commons)?"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T04:49:00.000Z|ElKevbo|2019-08-10T02:46:00.000Z"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Pictogram_voting_support.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_support.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Pictogram_voting_support.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_support.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Pictogram_voting_support.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_support.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="249" data-file-height="249"/> <b>Works for me</b> <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ElKevbo" title="User:ElKevbo">ElKevbo</a>:</span> try logging out, deleting all your wmf cookies, and logging in again. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 04:49, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T04:49:00.000Z|ElKevbo|2019-08-10T02:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T04:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T04:49:00.000Z|ElKevbo|2019-08-10T02:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T04:49:00.000Z|ElKevbo|2019-08-10T02:46:00.000Z"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Pictogram_voting_support.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_support.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Pictogram_voting_support.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_support.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Pictogram_voting_support.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_support.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="249" data-file-height="249"/> <b>Works for me</b> <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ElKevbo" title="User:ElKevbo">ElKevbo</a>:</span> try logging out, deleting all your wmf cookies, and logging in again. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 04:49, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T04:49:00.000Z|ElKevbo|2019-08-10T02:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T04:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T04:49:00.000Z|ElKevbo|2019-08-10T02:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="request_assistance" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|request_assistance|2019-08-09T15:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Adienes|2019-08-09T15:54:00.000Z|request_assistance&quot;,&quot;c|Snaevar|2019-08-09T20:23:00.000Z|request_assistance&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|request_assistance|2019-08-09T15:54:00.000Z"></span>request assistance<span data-mw-comment-end="h|request_assistance|2019-08-09T15:54:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Adienes|2019-08-09T15:54:00.000Z|request_assistance"></span>I'm trying to upload image to WikiCommons and getting message that I am not a confirmed user. I never got this message before. How can I get confirmed?  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Adienes&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Adienes (page does not exist)">Adienes</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Adienes&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Adienes (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 15:54, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Adienes|2019-08-09T15:54:00.000Z|request_assistance&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-09T17:41:00.000Z|Adienes|2019-08-09T15:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Snaevar|2019-08-09T19:01:00.000Z|Adienes|2019-08-09T15:54:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T15:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Adienes&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Adienes|2019-08-09T15:54:00.000Z|request_assistance"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Adienes|2019-08-09T15:54:00.000Z|request_assistance"></span>I'm trying to upload image to WikiCommons and getting message that I am not a confirmed user. I never got this message before. How can I get confirmed?  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Adienes&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Adienes (page does not exist)">Adienes</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Adienes&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Adienes (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 15:54, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Adienes|2019-08-09T15:54:00.000Z|request_assistance&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-09T17:41:00.000Z|Adienes|2019-08-09T15:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Snaevar|2019-08-09T19:01:00.000Z|Adienes|2019-08-09T15:54:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T15:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Adienes&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Adienes|2019-08-09T15:54:00.000Z|request_assistance"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-09T17:41:00.000Z|Adienes|2019-08-09T15:54:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Adienes&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Adienes (page does not exist)">Adienes</a>:</span> try to follow this link directly: <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UploadWizard" class="extiw" title="commons:Special:UploadWizard">commons:Special:UploadWizard</a>. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 17:41, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-09T17:41:00.000Z|Adienes|2019-08-09T15:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T17:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-09T17:41:00.000Z|Adienes|2019-08-09T15:54:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Snaevar|2019-08-09T19:01:00.000Z|Adienes|2019-08-09T15:54:00.000Z"></span>You will get confirmed automatically when 4 days have passed (according to an config file). Just wait.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Snaevar" title="User:Snaevar">Snaevar</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Snaevar" title="User talk:Snaevar">talk</a>) 19:01, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Snaevar|2019-08-09T19:01:00.000Z|Adienes|2019-08-09T15:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-09T19:03:00.000Z|Snaevar|2019-08-09T19:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T19:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Snaevar&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Snaevar|2019-08-09T19:01:00.000Z|Adienes|2019-08-09T15:54:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-09T19:03:00.000Z|Snaevar|2019-08-09T19:01:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Snaevar" title="User:Snaevar">Snaevar</a>:</span> commons doesn't require autoconfirmation to upload files, and here on enwiki its 4 days <u>and</u> 10 edits. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 19:03, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-09T19:03:00.000Z|Snaevar|2019-08-09T19:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T19:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-09T19:03:00.000Z|Snaevar|2019-08-09T19:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-09T17:41:00.000Z|Adienes|2019-08-09T15:54:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Adienes&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Adienes (page does not exist)">Adienes</a>:</span> try to follow this link directly: <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UploadWizard" class="extiw" title="commons:Special:UploadWizard">commons:Special:UploadWizard</a>. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 17:41, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-09T17:41:00.000Z|Adienes|2019-08-09T15:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T17:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-09T17:41:00.000Z|Adienes|2019-08-09T15:54:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Snaevar|2019-08-09T19:01:00.000Z|Adienes|2019-08-09T15:54:00.000Z"></span>You will get confirmed automatically when 4 days have passed (according to an config file). Just wait.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Snaevar" title="User:Snaevar">Snaevar</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Snaevar" title="User talk:Snaevar">talk</a>) 19:01, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Snaevar|2019-08-09T19:01:00.000Z|Adienes|2019-08-09T15:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-09T19:03:00.000Z|Snaevar|2019-08-09T19:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T19:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Snaevar&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Snaevar|2019-08-09T19:01:00.000Z|Adienes|2019-08-09T15:54:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-09T19:03:00.000Z|Snaevar|2019-08-09T19:01:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Snaevar" title="User:Snaevar">Snaevar</a>:</span> commons doesn't require autoconfirmation to upload files, and here on enwiki its 4 days <u>and</u> 10 edits. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 19:03, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-09T19:03:00.000Z|Snaevar|2019-08-09T19:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T19:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-09T19:03:00.000Z|Snaevar|2019-08-09T19:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
 <dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Snaevar|2019-08-09T20:23:00.000Z|request_assistance"></span>User:Xaosflux</a>: For enwiki, yes, there is an 10 edit limit. For commons, see line 5233 in <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/source/mediawiki-config/browse/master/wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php" class="extiw" title="phab:source/mediawiki-config/browse/master/wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php">InitialiseSettings.php</a>, which says no.</dd></dl>
-<p>As for upload rights, I am not really here to argue. The user which started this discussion will find the correct answer anyway.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Snaevar" title="User:Snaevar">Snaevar</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Snaevar" title="User talk:Snaevar">talk</a>) 20:23, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Snaevar|2019-08-09T20:23:00.000Z|request_assistance&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T04:51:00.000Z|Snaevar|2019-08-09T20:23:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T20:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Snaevar&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Snaevar|2019-08-09T20:23:00.000Z|request_assistance"></span>
+<p>As for upload rights, I am not really here to argue. The user which started this discussion will find the correct answer anyway.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Snaevar" title="User:Snaevar">Snaevar</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Snaevar" title="User talk:Snaevar">talk</a>) 20:23, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Snaevar|2019-08-09T20:23:00.000Z|request_assistance&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T04:51:00.000Z|Snaevar|2019-08-09T20:23:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T20:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Snaevar&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Snaevar|2019-08-09T20:23:00.000Z|request_assistance"></span>
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-<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T04:51:00.000Z|Snaevar|2019-08-09T20:23:00.000Z"></span>You can check that at <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ListGroupRights" class="extiw" title="commons:Special:ListGroupRights">commons:Special:ListGroupRights</a>, look for <code>(upload)</code>. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 04:51, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T04:51:00.000Z|Snaevar|2019-08-09T20:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T04:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T04:51:00.000Z|Snaevar|2019-08-09T20:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T04:51:00.000Z|Snaevar|2019-08-09T20:23:00.000Z"></span>You can check that at <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ListGroupRights" class="extiw" title="commons:Special:ListGroupRights">commons:Special:ListGroupRights</a>, look for <code>(upload)</code>. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 04:51, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T04:51:00.000Z|Snaevar|2019-08-09T20:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T04:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T04:51:00.000Z|Snaevar|2019-08-09T20:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Watchlist_no_longer_highlighted_to_show_possible_vandalism" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Watchlist_no_longer_highlighted_to_show_possible_vandalism|2019-08-09T12:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Doug Weller|2019-08-09T12:33:00.000Z|Watchlist_no_longer_highlighted_to_show_possible_vandalism&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Watchlist_no_longer_highlighted_to_show_possible_vandalism|2019-08-09T12:33:00.000Z"></span>Watchlist no longer highlighted to show possible vandalism<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Watchlist_no_longer_highlighted_to_show_possible_vandalism|2019-08-09T12:33:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Doug Weller|2019-08-09T12:33:00.000Z|Watchlist_no_longer_highlighted_to_show_possible_vandalism"></span>What's changed?<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Doug_Weller" title="User:Doug Weller"><span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller" title="User talk:Doug Weller">talk</a> 12:33, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Doug Weller|2019-08-09T12:33:00.000Z|Watchlist_no_longer_highlighted_to_show_possible_vandalism&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Roxy the dog|2019-08-09T16:05:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-08-09T12:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-09T17:18:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-08-09T12:33:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T12:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Doug Weller&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Doug Weller|2019-08-09T12:33:00.000Z|Watchlist_no_longer_highlighted_to_show_possible_vandalism"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Doug Weller|2019-08-09T12:33:00.000Z|Watchlist_no_longer_highlighted_to_show_possible_vandalism"></span>What's changed?<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Doug_Weller" title="User:Doug Weller"><span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller" title="User talk:Doug Weller">talk</a> 12:33, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Doug Weller|2019-08-09T12:33:00.000Z|Watchlist_no_longer_highlighted_to_show_possible_vandalism&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Roxy the dog|2019-08-09T16:05:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-08-09T12:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-09T17:18:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-08-09T12:33:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T12:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Doug Weller&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Doug Weller|2019-08-09T12:33:00.000Z|Watchlist_no_longer_highlighted_to_show_possible_vandalism"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Roxy the dog|2019-08-09T16:05:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-08-09T12:33:00.000Z"></span>Working normally for me? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Roxy_the_dog" title="User:Roxy the dog"><b>Roxy,</b> <small>the dog</small>.</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Roxy_the_dog" title="User talk:Roxy the dog"><b>wooF</b></a> 16:05, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Roxy the dog|2019-08-09T16:05:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-08-09T12:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T16:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Roxy the dog&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Roxy the dog|2019-08-09T16:05:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-08-09T12:33:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Izno|2019-08-09T17:18:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-08-09T12:33:00.000Z"></span>The "refresh changes" indicator used with advanced watchlist is not displaying for me. I suspect <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:THURSDAY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:THURSDAY">WP:THURSDAY</a> happened and now Javascript is not loading on the page, or something. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 17:18, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-09T17:18:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-08-09T12:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-09T17:21:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-09T17:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-09T17:22:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-09T17:18:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T17:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Izno&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Izno|2019-08-09T17:18:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-08-09T12:33:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Izno|2019-08-09T17:21:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-09T17:18:00.000Z"></span>That said, colors are still loading for me, as with Roxy. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 17:21, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-09T17:21:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-09T17:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T17:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Izno&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Izno|2019-08-09T17:21:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-09T17:18:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Izno|2019-08-09T17:22:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-09T17:18:00.000Z"></span>Oh, I see what happened. The refresh changes indicator got wrapped up into the Active Filters 'show/hide' box. I might have to request that one be reverted (did so--see <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T230220" class="extiw" title="phab:T230220">phab:T230220</a>)... So, it looks like I'm all good. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 17:22, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-09T17:22:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-09T17:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Doug Weller|2019-08-10T09:45:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-09T17:22:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T17:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Izno&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Izno|2019-08-09T17:22:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-09T17:18:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Doug Weller|2019-08-10T09:45:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-09T17:22:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a>:</span> Thanks. I had to go to mediawiki to figure it all out but it's fixed now.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Doug_Weller" title="User:Doug Weller"><span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller" title="User talk:Doug Weller">talk</a> 09:45, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Doug Weller|2019-08-10T09:45:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-09T17:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T09:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Doug Weller&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Doug Weller|2019-08-10T09:45:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-09T17:22:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Roxy the dog|2019-08-09T16:05:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-08-09T12:33:00.000Z"></span>Working normally for me? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Roxy_the_dog" title="User:Roxy the dog"><b>Roxy,</b> <small>the dog</small>.</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Roxy_the_dog" title="User talk:Roxy the dog"><b>wooF</b></a> 16:05, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Roxy the dog|2019-08-09T16:05:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-08-09T12:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T16:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Roxy the dog&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Roxy the dog|2019-08-09T16:05:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-08-09T12:33:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Izno|2019-08-09T17:18:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-08-09T12:33:00.000Z"></span>The "refresh changes" indicator used with advanced watchlist is not displaying for me. I suspect <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:THURSDAY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:THURSDAY">WP:THURSDAY</a> happened and now Javascript is not loading on the page, or something. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 17:18, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-09T17:18:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-08-09T12:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-09T17:21:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-09T17:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-09T17:22:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-09T17:18:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T17:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Izno&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Izno|2019-08-09T17:18:00.000Z|Doug Weller|2019-08-09T12:33:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Izno|2019-08-09T17:21:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-09T17:18:00.000Z"></span>That said, colors are still loading for me, as with Roxy. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 17:21, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-09T17:21:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-09T17:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T17:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Izno&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Izno|2019-08-09T17:21:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-09T17:18:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Izno|2019-08-09T17:22:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-09T17:18:00.000Z"></span>Oh, I see what happened. The refresh changes indicator got wrapped up into the Active Filters 'show/hide' box. I might have to request that one be reverted (did so--see <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T230220" class="extiw" title="phab:T230220">phab:T230220</a>)... So, it looks like I'm all good. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 17:22, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-09T17:22:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-09T17:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Doug Weller|2019-08-10T09:45:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-09T17:22:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T17:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Izno&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Izno|2019-08-09T17:22:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-09T17:18:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Doug Weller|2019-08-10T09:45:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-09T17:22:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a>:</span> Thanks. I had to go to mediawiki to figure it all out but it's fixed now.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Doug_Weller" title="User:Doug Weller"><span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller" title="User talk:Doug Weller">talk</a> 09:45, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Doug Weller|2019-08-10T09:45:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-09T17:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T09:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Doug Weller&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Doug Weller|2019-08-10T09:45:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-09T17:22:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Page_jump_in_edit_box" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Page_jump_in_edit_box|2019-08-10T12:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Davey2010|2019-08-10T12:26:00.000Z|Page_jump_in_edit_box&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Page_jump_in_edit_box|2019-08-10T12:26:00.000Z"></span>Page jump in edit box<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Page_jump_in_edit_box|2019-08-10T12:26:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <div class="thumb tright"><div class="thumbinner" style="width:302px;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:EN_page_jump_1_-_Davey2010.png" class="image"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Davey2010|2019-08-10T12:26:00.000Z|Page_jump_in_edit_box"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/EN_page_jump_1_-_Davey2010.png/300px-EN_page_jump_1_-_Davey2010.png" decoding="async" width="300" height="160" class="thumbimage" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/EN_page_jump_1_-_Davey2010.png/450px-EN_page_jump_1_-_Davey2010.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/EN_page_jump_1_-_Davey2010.png/600px-EN_page_jump_1_-_Davey2010.png 2x" data-file-width="1047" data-file-height="557"/></a>  <div class="thumbcaption"><div class="magnify"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:EN_page_jump_1_-_Davey2010.png" class="internal" title="Enlarge"></a></div>EN page jump 1</div></div></div>
 <div class="thumb tright"><div class="thumbinner" style="width:302px;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:EN_page_jump_2_-_Davey2010.png" class="image"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/29/EN_page_jump_2_-_Davey2010.png/300px-EN_page_jump_2_-_Davey2010.png" decoding="async" width="300" height="171" class="thumbimage" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/29/EN_page_jump_2_-_Davey2010.png/450px-EN_page_jump_2_-_Davey2010.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/29/EN_page_jump_2_-_Davey2010.png/600px-EN_page_jump_2_-_Davey2010.png 2x" data-file-width="1047" data-file-height="597"/></a>  <div class="thumbcaption"><div class="magnify"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:EN_page_jump_2_-_Davey2010.png" class="internal" title="Enlarge"></a></div>EN page jump 2</div></div></div>
 <p>Hi, Every time I paste an image in between walls of text the page jumps down or if I paste text and press enter the page will then jump down,
 </p><p>So for instance If I want to paste an image > the page will jump down > I have to scroll back up to the image > and then add thumb+left etc
-</p><p>It's been happening for the past month or 2 but it never used to, Thanks, –<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Davey2010" title="User:Davey2010"><span style="color: blue;"><b>Davey</b></span><span style="color: orange;"><b>2010</b></span></a><sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Davey2010" title="User talk:Davey2010"><span style="color: navy;"><b>Talk</b></span></a></sup> 12:26, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Davey2010|2019-08-10T12:26:00.000Z|Page_jump_in_edit_box&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-10T14:20:00.000Z|Davey2010|2019-08-10T12:26:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T12:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Davey2010&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Davey2010|2019-08-10T12:26:00.000Z|Page_jump_in_edit_box"></span>
+</p><p>It's been happening for the past month or 2 but it never used to, Thanks, –<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Davey2010" title="User:Davey2010"><span style="color: blue;"><b>Davey</b></span><span style="color: orange;"><b>2010</b></span></a><sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Davey2010" title="User talk:Davey2010"><span style="color: navy;"><b>Talk</b></span></a></sup> 12:26, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Davey2010|2019-08-10T12:26:00.000Z|Page_jump_in_edit_box&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-10T14:20:00.000Z|Davey2010|2019-08-10T12:26:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T12:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Davey2010&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Davey2010|2019-08-10T12:26:00.000Z|Page_jump_in_edit_box"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Izno|2019-08-10T14:20:00.000Z|Davey2010|2019-08-10T12:26:00.000Z"></span>What skin/browser/operating system do you use? I have seen a similar problem on mobile Firefox for Android, but not on desktop Firefox or Chrome. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 14:20, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-10T14:20:00.000Z|Davey2010|2019-08-10T12:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Davey2010|2019-08-10T16:44:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-10T14:20:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T14:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Izno&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Izno|2019-08-10T14:20:00.000Z|Davey2010|2019-08-10T12:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Davey2010|2019-08-10T16:44:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-10T14:20:00.000Z"></span>Hi <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a>, I'm on Windows 7 and am using Vector, Ah okay, I've used Mobile to edit but never pasted with it, Thanks, –<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Davey2010" title="User:Davey2010"><span style="color: blue;"><b>Davey</b></span><span style="color: orange;"><b>2010</b></span></a><sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Davey2010" title="User talk:Davey2010"><span style="color: navy;"><b>Talk</b></span></a></sup> 16:44, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Davey2010|2019-08-10T16:44:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-10T14:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T16:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Davey2010&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Davey2010|2019-08-10T16:44:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-10T14:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Izno|2019-08-10T14:20:00.000Z|Davey2010|2019-08-10T12:26:00.000Z"></span>What skin/browser/operating system do you use? I have seen a similar problem on mobile Firefox for Android, but not on desktop Firefox or Chrome. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 14:20, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-10T14:20:00.000Z|Davey2010|2019-08-10T12:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Davey2010|2019-08-10T16:44:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-10T14:20:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T14:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Izno&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Izno|2019-08-10T14:20:00.000Z|Davey2010|2019-08-10T12:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Davey2010|2019-08-10T16:44:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-10T14:20:00.000Z"></span>Hi <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a>, I'm on Windows 7 and am using Vector, Ah okay, I've used Mobile to edit but never pasted with it, Thanks, –<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Davey2010" title="User:Davey2010"><span style="color: blue;"><b>Davey</b></span><span style="color: orange;"><b>2010</b></span></a><sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Davey2010" title="User talk:Davey2010"><span style="color: navy;"><b>Talk</b></span></a></sup> 16:44, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Davey2010|2019-08-10T16:44:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-10T14:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T16:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Davey2010&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Davey2010|2019-08-10T16:44:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-10T14:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Drbogdan|2019-08-10T14:28:00.000Z|Possible_STATS_problem?"></span>Seems that <code>{{NUMBEROF|ARTICLES|total|N}}</code> gives <b>different results</b> for the "Total Number of Articles" in different, but related, Wikipedias? - Example is the "Total Number of Articles" [at 14:04, August 10, 2019 (UTC)] is <b>"50,810,571"</b> (in the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan/STATS" title="User:Drbogdan/STATS"><b>English Wikipedia</b></a> => <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan/STATS">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan/STATS</a>) and <b>"48,645,009"</b> (in the <a href="https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan/STATS" class="extiw" title="simple:User:Drbogdan/STATS"><b>Simple English Wikipedia</b></a> => <a class="external free" href="https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan/STATS">https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan/STATS</a>) - seems the two should match up, but don't for some reason? - in any case - Enjoy! :) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Drbogdan" title="User talk:Drbogdan">talk</a>) 14:28, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-08-10T14:28:00.000Z|Possible_STATS_problem?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T14:34:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-08-10T14:28:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T14:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Drbogdan&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Drbogdan|2019-08-10T14:28:00.000Z|Possible_STATS_problem?"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Drbogdan|2019-08-10T14:28:00.000Z|Possible_STATS_problem?"></span>Seems that <code>{{NUMBEROF|ARTICLES|total|N}}</code> gives <b>different results</b> for the "Total Number of Articles" in different, but related, Wikipedias? - Example is the "Total Number of Articles" [at 14:04, August 10, 2019 (UTC)] is <b>"50,810,571"</b> (in the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan/STATS" title="User:Drbogdan/STATS"><b>English Wikipedia</b></a> => <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan/STATS">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan/STATS</a>) and <b>"48,645,009"</b> (in the <a href="https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan/STATS" class="extiw" title="simple:User:Drbogdan/STATS"><b>Simple English Wikipedia</b></a> => <a class="external free" href="https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan/STATS">https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan/STATS</a>) - seems the two should match up, but don't for some reason? - in any case - Enjoy! :) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Drbogdan" title="User talk:Drbogdan">talk</a>) 14:28, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-08-10T14:28:00.000Z|Possible_STATS_problem?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T14:34:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-08-10T14:28:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T14:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Drbogdan&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Drbogdan|2019-08-10T14:28:00.000Z|Possible_STATS_problem?"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T14:34:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-08-10T14:28:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a>:</span> the "English Wikipedia" is just as different from the "Simple English Wikipedia" as it is from the "French Wikipedia" - their statistics are project-specific. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 14:34, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T14:34:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-08-10T14:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-10T14:54:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T14:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-10T15:07:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T14:34:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T14:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T14:34:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-08-10T14:28:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-10T14:54:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T14:34:00.000Z"></span>The parameter <code>|total</code> is supposed to give the sum for all languages but the number is not updated automatically. {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:NUMBEROF" title="Template:NUMBEROF">NUMBEROF</a>}} is not a magic word but a template and the count is taken from a template subpage which must be updated at the local wiki. Our <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:NUMBEROF/data" title="Template:NUMBEROF/data">Template:NUMBEROF/data</a> is updated frequently by a bot. <a href="https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:NUMBEROF/data" class="extiw" title="simple:Template:NUMBEROF/data">simple:Template:NUMBEROF/data</a> has not been updated since it was manually copied from us in September 2018. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 14:54, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-10T14:54:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T14:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T15:25:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-10T14:54:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T14:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-10T14:54:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T14:34:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T15:25:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-10T14:54:00.000Z"></span>Ah ha, well that's a messy to maintain template, fine for one project but would never scale to full-mesh - perhaps pulling something from wikidata would be better. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 15:25, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T15:25:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-10T14:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T15:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T15:25:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-10T14:54:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Acebot" title="User:Acebot"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-10T15:07:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T14:34:00.000Z"></span>User:Acebot</a> is updating our data and some of the other languages but not all, and less frequently. I don't know whether it's supposed to update simple or can be requested. Pinging the operator <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ace111" title="User:Ace111">Ace111</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 15:07, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-10T15:07:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T14:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ace111|2019-08-10T17:02:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-10T15:07:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T15:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-10T15:07:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T14:34:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ace111|2019-08-10T17:02:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-10T15:07:00.000Z"></span>I was never asked before to update the NUMBEROF template in simple Wikipedia. Now I ran the bot once to update it, and can run it regularly, e.g. daily, in the future. Are there any objections? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ace111" title="User:Ace111">Ace111</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ace111" title="User talk:Ace111">talk</a>) 17:02, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ace111|2019-08-10T17:02:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-10T15:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-10T18:21:00.000Z|Ace111|2019-08-10T17:02:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T17:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ace111&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ace111|2019-08-10T17:02:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-10T15:07:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-10T18:21:00.000Z|Ace111|2019-08-10T17:02:00.000Z"></span>Thanks. I don't work at simple but <a href="https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:NUMBEROF/data" class="extiw" title="simple:Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:NUMBEROF/data">simple:Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:NUMBEROF/data</a> shows mainspace uses so I assume they will appreciate it. <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q10452819" class="extiw" title="d:Q10452819">Template:NUMBEROF/data <small>(Q10452819)</small></a> shows a version at many wikis but I don't know where the bot is wanted (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ace111#NUMBEROF/data_on_et.wikipedia.org" title="User talk:Ace111">apart from Estonian</a>). Some are already updated by the bot, some have no mainspace uses, and some may have hard bot policies. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 18:21, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-10T18:21:00.000Z|Ace111|2019-08-10T17:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T18:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-10T18:21:00.000Z|Ace111|2019-08-10T17:02:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Drbogdan|2019-08-10T17:27:00.000Z|Possible_STATS_problem?"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ace111" title="User:Ace111">Ace111</a>:</span> and others - FWIW - Thank you *very much* for your comments - and efforts/updates and all - they're all *greatly* appreciated - I have no objection whatsoever re regular daily updates of the Simple English Wikipedia (or related) in the future - Thanks again - and - Enjoy! :) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Drbogdan" title="User talk:Drbogdan">talk</a>) 17:27, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-08-10T17:27:00.000Z|Possible_STATS_problem?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T17:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Drbogdan&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Drbogdan|2019-08-10T17:27:00.000Z|Possible_STATS_problem?"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T14:34:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-08-10T14:28:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a>:</span> the "English Wikipedia" is just as different from the "Simple English Wikipedia" as it is from the "French Wikipedia" - their statistics are project-specific. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 14:34, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T14:34:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-08-10T14:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-10T14:54:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T14:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-10T15:07:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T14:34:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T14:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T14:34:00.000Z|Drbogdan|2019-08-10T14:28:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-10T14:54:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T14:34:00.000Z"></span>The parameter <code>|total</code> is supposed to give the sum for all languages but the number is not updated automatically. {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:NUMBEROF" title="Template:NUMBEROF">NUMBEROF</a>}} is not a magic word but a template and the count is taken from a template subpage which must be updated at the local wiki. Our <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:NUMBEROF/data" title="Template:NUMBEROF/data">Template:NUMBEROF/data</a> is updated frequently by a bot. <a href="https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:NUMBEROF/data" class="extiw" title="simple:Template:NUMBEROF/data">simple:Template:NUMBEROF/data</a> has not been updated since it was manually copied from us in September 2018. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 14:54, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-10T14:54:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T14:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T15:25:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-10T14:54:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T14:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-10T14:54:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T14:34:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T15:25:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-10T14:54:00.000Z"></span>Ah ha, well that's a messy to maintain template, fine for one project but would never scale to full-mesh - perhaps pulling something from wikidata would be better. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 15:25, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T15:25:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-10T14:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T15:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T15:25:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-10T14:54:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Acebot" title="User:Acebot"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-10T15:07:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T14:34:00.000Z"></span>User:Acebot</a> is updating our data and some of the other languages but not all, and less frequently. I don't know whether it's supposed to update simple or can be requested. Pinging the operator <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ace111" title="User:Ace111">Ace111</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 15:07, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-10T15:07:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T14:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ace111|2019-08-10T17:02:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-10T15:07:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T15:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-10T15:07:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-10T14:34:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ace111|2019-08-10T17:02:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-10T15:07:00.000Z"></span>I was never asked before to update the NUMBEROF template in simple Wikipedia. Now I ran the bot once to update it, and can run it regularly, e.g. daily, in the future. Are there any objections? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ace111" title="User:Ace111">Ace111</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ace111" title="User talk:Ace111">talk</a>) 17:02, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ace111|2019-08-10T17:02:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-10T15:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-10T18:21:00.000Z|Ace111|2019-08-10T17:02:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T17:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ace111&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ace111|2019-08-10T17:02:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-10T15:07:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-10T18:21:00.000Z|Ace111|2019-08-10T17:02:00.000Z"></span>Thanks. I don't work at simple but <a href="https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:NUMBEROF/data" class="extiw" title="simple:Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:NUMBEROF/data">simple:Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:NUMBEROF/data</a> shows mainspace uses so I assume they will appreciate it. <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q10452819" class="extiw" title="d:Q10452819">Template:NUMBEROF/data <small>(Q10452819)</small></a> shows a version at many wikis but I don't know where the bot is wanted (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ace111#NUMBEROF/data_on_et.wikipedia.org" title="User talk:Ace111">apart from Estonian</a>). Some are already updated by the bot, some have no mainspace uses, and some may have hard bot policies. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 18:21, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-10T18:21:00.000Z|Ace111|2019-08-10T17:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T18:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-10T18:21:00.000Z|Ace111|2019-08-10T17:02:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Drbogdan|2019-08-10T17:27:00.000Z|Possible_STATS_problem?"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ace111" title="User:Ace111">Ace111</a>:</span> and others - FWIW - Thank you *very much* for your comments - and efforts/updates and all - they're all *greatly* appreciated - I have no objection whatsoever re regular daily updates of the Simple English Wikipedia (or related) in the future - Thanks again - and - Enjoy! :) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drbogdan" title="User:Drbogdan">Drbogdan</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Drbogdan" title="User talk:Drbogdan">talk</a>) 17:27, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Drbogdan|2019-08-10T17:27:00.000Z|Possible_STATS_problem?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T17:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Drbogdan&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Drbogdan|2019-08-10T17:27:00.000Z|Possible_STATS_problem?"></span>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Daß Wölf|2019-08-10T07:11:00.000Z|SVG_preview_rendering_Greek_letter_incorrectly"></span>I was about to remove the ε in parentheses in the caption of the axial tilt illustration at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_Circle" title="Arctic Circle">Arctic Circle</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_Circle#/media/File:Axial_tilt_vs_tropical_and_polar_circles.svg">direct MediaViewer link</a>) before I opened the <a class="external text" href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/40/Axial_tilt_vs_tropical_and_polar_circles.svg">full SVG image directly</a>. It appears that "ε" in text on the illustration is lost completely and "90 - ε" renders as "90?". Is this happening for anyone else? <b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Da%C3%9F_W%C3%B6lf" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Daß Wölf"><span style="color: #da0000">Daß</span></a><small> </small><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Da%C3%9F_W%C3%B6lf" title="User talk:Daß Wölf"><span style="color: #0044c3">Wölf</span></a></b> 07:11, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Da\u00df W\u00f6lf|2019-08-10T07:11:00.000Z|SVG_preview_rendering_Greek_letter_incorrectly&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Peter coxhead|2019-08-10T07:45:00.000Z|Da\u00df W\u00f6lf|2019-08-10T07:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-10T08:40:00.000Z|Da\u00df W\u00f6lf|2019-08-10T07:11:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T07:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Da\u00df W\u00f6lf&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Daß Wölf|2019-08-10T07:11:00.000Z|SVG_preview_rendering_Greek_letter_incorrectly"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Daß Wölf|2019-08-10T07:11:00.000Z|SVG_preview_rendering_Greek_letter_incorrectly"></span>I was about to remove the ε in parentheses in the caption of the axial tilt illustration at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_Circle" title="Arctic Circle">Arctic Circle</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_Circle#/media/File:Axial_tilt_vs_tropical_and_polar_circles.svg">direct MediaViewer link</a>) before I opened the <a class="external text" href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/40/Axial_tilt_vs_tropical_and_polar_circles.svg">full SVG image directly</a>. It appears that "ε" in text on the illustration is lost completely and "90 - ε" renders as "90?". Is this happening for anyone else? <b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Da%C3%9F_W%C3%B6lf" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Daß Wölf"><span style="color: #da0000">Daß</span></a><small> </small><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Da%C3%9F_W%C3%B6lf" title="User talk:Daß Wölf"><span style="color: #0044c3">Wölf</span></a></b> 07:11, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Da\u00df W\u00f6lf|2019-08-10T07:11:00.000Z|SVG_preview_rendering_Greek_letter_incorrectly&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Peter coxhead|2019-08-10T07:45:00.000Z|Da\u00df W\u00f6lf|2019-08-10T07:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-10T08:40:00.000Z|Da\u00df W\u00f6lf|2019-08-10T07:11:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T07:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Da\u00df W\u00f6lf&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Daß Wölf|2019-08-10T07:11:00.000Z|SVG_preview_rendering_Greek_letter_incorrectly"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Peter coxhead|2019-08-10T07:45:00.000Z|Daß Wölf|2019-08-10T07:11:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Da%C3%9F_W%C3%B6lf" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Daß Wölf">Daß Wölf</a>:</span> all ways of accessing the image show the ε correctly for me. The difference is likely to be caused by how the glyph is specified in the SVG; if it's by giving font details, you may not have the font on your system (I'm using MacOS). Depending on how the SVG file is created, there are different ways of specifying how characters should be saved. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Peter_coxhead" title="User:Peter coxhead">Peter coxhead</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Peter_coxhead" title="User talk:Peter coxhead">talk</a>) 07:45, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Peter coxhead|2019-08-10T07:45:00.000Z|Da\u00df W\u00f6lf|2019-08-10T07:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Da\u00df W\u00f6lf|2019-08-10T07:48:00.000Z|Peter coxhead|2019-08-10T07:45:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T07:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Peter coxhead&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Peter coxhead|2019-08-10T07:45:00.000Z|Daß Wölf|2019-08-10T07:11:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Daß Wölf|2019-08-10T07:48:00.000Z|Peter coxhead|2019-08-10T07:45:00.000Z"></span>Oddly enough, I just rechecked the picture and it renders fine for me too now. I wish I had screenshotted the error. I suppose this was a temporary bug. <b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Da%C3%9F_W%C3%B6lf" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Daß Wölf"><span style="color: #da0000">Daß</span></a><small> </small><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Da%C3%9F_W%C3%B6lf" title="User talk:Daß Wölf"><span style="color: #0044c3">Wölf</span></a></b> 07:48, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Da\u00df W\u00f6lf|2019-08-10T07:48:00.000Z|Peter coxhead|2019-08-10T07:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T07:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Da\u00df W\u00f6lf&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Daß Wölf|2019-08-10T07:48:00.000Z|Peter coxhead|2019-08-10T07:45:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-10T08:40:00.000Z|Daß Wölf|2019-08-10T07:11:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Da%C3%9F_W%C3%B6lf" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Daß Wölf">Daß Wölf</a>:</span> is the problem gone after <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Axial_tilt_vs_tropical_and_polar_circles.svg#filehistory" class="extiw" title="commons:File:Axial tilt vs tropical and polar circles.svg">commons:File:Axial_tilt_vs_tropical_and_polar_circles.svg #filehistory</a>? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User:Incnis Mrsi">Incnis Mrsi</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User talk:Incnis Mrsi">talk</a>) 08:40, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-10T08:40:00.000Z|Da\u00df W\u00f6lf|2019-08-10T07:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Da\u00df W\u00f6lf|2019-08-11T00:02:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-10T08:40:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T08:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Incnis Mrsi&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-10T08:40:00.000Z|Daß Wölf|2019-08-10T07:11:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Daß Wölf|2019-08-11T00:02:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-10T08:40:00.000Z"></span>Yes, it seems so, but it was actually gone before that revision. I refreshed the page when I got Peter coxhead's ping at ~7:45 and it rendered correctly all on its own. <b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Da%C3%9F_W%C3%B6lf" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Daß Wölf"><span style="color: #da0000">Daß</span></a><small> </small><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Da%C3%9F_W%C3%B6lf" title="User talk:Daß Wölf"><span style="color: #0044c3">Wölf</span></a></b> 00:02, 11 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Da\u00df W\u00f6lf|2019-08-11T00:02:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-10T08:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-11T00:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Da\u00df W\u00f6lf&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Daß Wölf|2019-08-11T00:02:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-10T08:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Peter coxhead|2019-08-10T07:45:00.000Z|Daß Wölf|2019-08-10T07:11:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Da%C3%9F_W%C3%B6lf" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Daß Wölf">Daß Wölf</a>:</span> all ways of accessing the image show the ε correctly for me. The difference is likely to be caused by how the glyph is specified in the SVG; if it's by giving font details, you may not have the font on your system (I'm using MacOS). Depending on how the SVG file is created, there are different ways of specifying how characters should be saved. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Peter_coxhead" title="User:Peter coxhead">Peter coxhead</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Peter_coxhead" title="User talk:Peter coxhead">talk</a>) 07:45, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Peter coxhead|2019-08-10T07:45:00.000Z|Da\u00df W\u00f6lf|2019-08-10T07:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Da\u00df W\u00f6lf|2019-08-10T07:48:00.000Z|Peter coxhead|2019-08-10T07:45:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T07:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Peter coxhead&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Peter coxhead|2019-08-10T07:45:00.000Z|Daß Wölf|2019-08-10T07:11:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Daß Wölf|2019-08-10T07:48:00.000Z|Peter coxhead|2019-08-10T07:45:00.000Z"></span>Oddly enough, I just rechecked the picture and it renders fine for me too now. I wish I had screenshotted the error. I suppose this was a temporary bug. <b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Da%C3%9F_W%C3%B6lf" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Daß Wölf"><span style="color: #da0000">Daß</span></a><small> </small><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Da%C3%9F_W%C3%B6lf" title="User talk:Daß Wölf"><span style="color: #0044c3">Wölf</span></a></b> 07:48, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Da\u00df W\u00f6lf|2019-08-10T07:48:00.000Z|Peter coxhead|2019-08-10T07:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T07:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Da\u00df W\u00f6lf&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Daß Wölf|2019-08-10T07:48:00.000Z|Peter coxhead|2019-08-10T07:45:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-10T08:40:00.000Z|Daß Wölf|2019-08-10T07:11:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Da%C3%9F_W%C3%B6lf" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Daß Wölf">Daß Wölf</a>:</span> is the problem gone after <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Axial_tilt_vs_tropical_and_polar_circles.svg#filehistory" class="extiw" title="commons:File:Axial tilt vs tropical and polar circles.svg">commons:File:Axial_tilt_vs_tropical_and_polar_circles.svg #filehistory</a>? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User:Incnis Mrsi">Incnis Mrsi</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User talk:Incnis Mrsi">talk</a>) 08:40, 10 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-10T08:40:00.000Z|Da\u00df W\u00f6lf|2019-08-10T07:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Da\u00df W\u00f6lf|2019-08-11T00:02:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-10T08:40:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-10T08:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Incnis Mrsi&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-10T08:40:00.000Z|Daß Wölf|2019-08-10T07:11:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Daß Wölf|2019-08-11T00:02:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-10T08:40:00.000Z"></span>Yes, it seems so, but it was actually gone before that revision. I refreshed the page when I got Peter coxhead's ping at ~7:45 and it rendered correctly all on its own. <b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Da%C3%9F_W%C3%B6lf" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Daß Wölf"><span style="color: #da0000">Daß</span></a><small> </small><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Da%C3%9F_W%C3%B6lf" title="User talk:Daß Wölf"><span style="color: #0044c3">Wölf</span></a></b> 00:02, 11 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Da\u00df W\u00f6lf|2019-08-11T00:02:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-10T08:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-11T00:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Da\u00df W\u00f6lf&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Daß Wölf|2019-08-11T00:02:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-10T08:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Amaury|2019-08-09T14:25:00.000Z|Live_updates_button_and_active_filters_navigation"></span>I used to be able to hide the active filters navigation since I have no need for it. The problem now is that it's also hiding the live updates button when I click "hide." <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Amaury" title="User:Amaury">Amaury</a> • 14:25, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Amaury|2019-08-09T14:25:00.000Z|Live_updates_button_and_active_filters_navigation&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Bruce1ee|2019-08-11T15:10:00.000Z|Amaury|2019-08-09T14:25:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T14:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Amaury&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Amaury|2019-08-09T14:25:00.000Z|Live_updates_button_and_active_filters_navigation"></span>I used to be able to hide the active filters navigation since I have no need for it. The problem now is that it's also hiding the live updates button when I click "hide." <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Amaury" title="User:Amaury">Amaury</a> • 14:25, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Amaury|2019-08-09T14:25:00.000Z|Live_updates_button_and_active_filters_navigation&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Bruce1ee|2019-08-11T15:10:00.000Z|Amaury|2019-08-09T14:25:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T14:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Amaury&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bruce1ee|2019-08-11T15:10:00.000Z|Amaury|2019-08-09T14:25:00.000Z"></span>I've been experiencing the same problem in my watchlist since roughly 8 August. I'm using the Vector skin in Firefox 68.0.1 on a Windows 10 (1903) desktop. I've tried running the watchlist in safemode, but it makes no difference. —<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bruce1ee" title="User:Bruce1ee">Bruce1ee</a><sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bruce1ee" title="User talk:Bruce1ee"><i>talk</i></a></sup> 15:10, 11 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bruce1ee|2019-08-11T15:10:00.000Z|Amaury|2019-08-09T14:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-11T16:25:00.000Z|Bruce1ee|2019-08-11T15:10:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-11T15:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bruce1ee&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bruce1ee|2019-08-11T15:10:00.000Z|Amaury|2019-08-09T14:25:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Izno|2019-08-11T16:25:00.000Z|Bruce1ee|2019-08-11T15:10:00.000Z"></span>I mentioned this <a href="#Watchlist_no_longer_highlighted_to_show_possible_vandalism">in the thread just above</a> since I wasn't sure if the problem above and mine were related. Go subscribe to the task on Phabricator if desired. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 16:25, 11 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-11T16:25:00.000Z|Bruce1ee|2019-08-11T15:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Bruce1ee|2019-08-11T17:07:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-11T16:25:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-11T16:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Izno&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Izno|2019-08-11T16:25:00.000Z|Bruce1ee|2019-08-11T15:10:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bruce1ee|2019-08-11T17:07:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-11T16:25:00.000Z"></span>Yes, that's it. Thanks. Sorry, I should have seen that the above discussion was about the same problem. —<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bruce1ee" title="User:Bruce1ee">Bruce1ee</a><sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bruce1ee" title="User talk:Bruce1ee"><i>talk</i></a></sup> 17:07, 11 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bruce1ee|2019-08-11T17:07:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-11T16:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-11T17:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bruce1ee&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bruce1ee|2019-08-11T17:07:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-11T16:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bruce1ee|2019-08-11T15:10:00.000Z|Amaury|2019-08-09T14:25:00.000Z"></span>I've been experiencing the same problem in my watchlist since roughly 8 August. I'm using the Vector skin in Firefox 68.0.1 on a Windows 10 (1903) desktop. I've tried running the watchlist in safemode, but it makes no difference. —<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bruce1ee" title="User:Bruce1ee">Bruce1ee</a><sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bruce1ee" title="User talk:Bruce1ee"><i>talk</i></a></sup> 15:10, 11 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bruce1ee|2019-08-11T15:10:00.000Z|Amaury|2019-08-09T14:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-11T16:25:00.000Z|Bruce1ee|2019-08-11T15:10:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-11T15:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bruce1ee&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bruce1ee|2019-08-11T15:10:00.000Z|Amaury|2019-08-09T14:25:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Izno|2019-08-11T16:25:00.000Z|Bruce1ee|2019-08-11T15:10:00.000Z"></span>I mentioned this <a href="#Watchlist_no_longer_highlighted_to_show_possible_vandalism">in the thread just above</a> since I wasn't sure if the problem above and mine were related. Go subscribe to the task on Phabricator if desired. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 16:25, 11 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-11T16:25:00.000Z|Bruce1ee|2019-08-11T15:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Bruce1ee|2019-08-11T17:07:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-11T16:25:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-11T16:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Izno&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Izno|2019-08-11T16:25:00.000Z|Bruce1ee|2019-08-11T15:10:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bruce1ee|2019-08-11T17:07:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-11T16:25:00.000Z"></span>Yes, that's it. Thanks. Sorry, I should have seen that the above discussion was about the same problem. —<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bruce1ee" title="User:Bruce1ee">Bruce1ee</a><sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bruce1ee" title="User talk:Bruce1ee"><i>talk</i></a></sup> 17:07, 11 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bruce1ee|2019-08-11T17:07:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-11T16:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-11T17:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bruce1ee&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bruce1ee|2019-08-11T17:07:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-11T16:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Need_advice_on_removing_interlanguage_link_from_userpage" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Need_advice_on_removing_interlanguage_link_from_userpage|2019-08-11T19:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Tk420|2019-08-11T19:25:00.000Z|Need_advice_on_removing_interlanguage_link_from_userpage&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Need_advice_on_removing_interlanguage_link_from_userpage|2019-08-11T19:25:00.000Z"></span>Need advice on removing interlanguage link from userpage<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Need_advice_on_removing_interlanguage_link_from_userpage|2019-08-11T19:25:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tk420" title="User:Tk420"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Tk420|2019-08-11T19:25:00.000Z|Need_advice_on_removing_interlanguage_link_from_userpage"></span>My userpage</a> is currently linked to <a href="https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Userbox/Reunifica%C3%A7%C3%A3o_da_Irlandas" class="extiw" title="pt:Wikipédia:Userbox/Reunificação da Irlandas">Wikipédia:Userbox/Reunificação da Irlandas</a> on the Portuguese Wikipedia although that is not a userpage and I did not link it myself. I cannot find the link to edit interlanguage links on my userpage so I was wondering if anyone here knows how to remove the link or if they could direct me to the right process? I have not created a userpage in any other language as I do not have the expertise to do so without a professional translator. My only other userpages across Wikimedia are on Commons and Wiktionary and they are both in English. I have tried asking <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cuchullain" title="User:Cuchullain">User:Cuchullain</a>, who is an admin, but they cannot work it out and they advised me to try leaving a note here. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tk420" title="User:Tk420">Tk420</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tk420" title="User talk:Tk420">talk</a>) 19:25, 11 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Tk420|2019-08-11T19:25:00.000Z|Need_advice_on_removing_interlanguage_link_from_userpage&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|\u00dejarkur|2019-08-11T19:30:00.000Z|Tk420|2019-08-11T19:25:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-11T19:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Tk420&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Tk420|2019-08-11T19:25:00.000Z|Need_advice_on_removing_interlanguage_link_from_userpage"></span>
+<p><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tk420" title="User:Tk420"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Tk420|2019-08-11T19:25:00.000Z|Need_advice_on_removing_interlanguage_link_from_userpage"></span>My userpage</a> is currently linked to <a href="https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Userbox/Reunifica%C3%A7%C3%A3o_da_Irlandas" class="extiw" title="pt:Wikipédia:Userbox/Reunificação da Irlandas">Wikipédia:Userbox/Reunificação da Irlandas</a> on the Portuguese Wikipedia although that is not a userpage and I did not link it myself. I cannot find the link to edit interlanguage links on my userpage so I was wondering if anyone here knows how to remove the link or if they could direct me to the right process? I have not created a userpage in any other language as I do not have the expertise to do so without a professional translator. My only other userpages across Wikimedia are on Commons and Wiktionary and they are both in English. I have tried asking <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cuchullain" title="User:Cuchullain">User:Cuchullain</a>, who is an admin, but they cannot work it out and they advised me to try leaving a note here. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tk420" title="User:Tk420">Tk420</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tk420" title="User talk:Tk420">talk</a>) 19:25, 11 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Tk420|2019-08-11T19:25:00.000Z|Need_advice_on_removing_interlanguage_link_from_userpage&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|\u00dejarkur|2019-08-11T19:30:00.000Z|Tk420|2019-08-11T19:25:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-11T19:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Tk420&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Tk420|2019-08-11T19:25:00.000Z|Need_advice_on_removing_interlanguage_link_from_userpage"></span>
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-<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/906934813/910391169" title="Special:Diff/906934813/910391169"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Þjarkur|2019-08-11T19:30:00.000Z|Tk420|2019-08-11T19:25:00.000Z"></span>Fixed</a>, was outside of the &lt;noinclude> in {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:User_Northern_Ireland_(self_determination)" title="Template:User Northern Ireland (self determination)">User Northern Ireland (self determination)</a>}} – <b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%C3%9Ejarkur" title="User:Þjarkur">Thjarkur</a></b> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%C3%9Ejarkur" title="User talk:Þjarkur">(talk)</a> 19:30, 11 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u00dejarkur|2019-08-11T19:30:00.000Z|Tk420|2019-08-11T19:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-11T19:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u00dejarkur&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Þjarkur|2019-08-11T19:30:00.000Z|Tk420|2019-08-11T19:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/906934813/910391169" title="Special:Diff/906934813/910391169"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Þjarkur|2019-08-11T19:30:00.000Z|Tk420|2019-08-11T19:25:00.000Z"></span>Fixed</a>, was outside of the &lt;noinclude> in {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:User_Northern_Ireland_(self_determination)" title="Template:User Northern Ireland (self determination)">User Northern Ireland (self determination)</a>}} – <b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%C3%9Ejarkur" title="User:Þjarkur">Thjarkur</a></b> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%C3%9Ejarkur" title="User talk:Þjarkur">(talk)</a> 19:30, 11 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u00dejarkur|2019-08-11T19:30:00.000Z|Tk420|2019-08-11T19:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-11T19:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u00dejarkur&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Þjarkur|2019-08-11T19:30:00.000Z|Tk420|2019-08-11T19:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id="Why_do_my_searches_come_up_empty.3F"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Why_do_my_searches_come_up_empty?" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Why_do_my_searches_come_up_empty?|2019-08-11T13:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-08-11T13:30:00.000Z|Why_do_my_searches_come_up_empty?&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Why_do_my_searches_come_up_empty?|2019-08-11T13:30:00.000Z"></span>Why do my searches come up empty?<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Why_do_my_searches_come_up_empty?|2019-08-11T13:30:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <div class="mw-inputbox-centered" style=""><form name="searchbox" class="searchbox" action="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Headbomb|2019-08-11T13:30:00.000Z|Why_do_my_searches_come_up_empty?"></span><input class="mw-inputbox-input searchboxInput mw-ui-input mw-ui-input-inline" name="search" type="text" value="" placeholder="" size="50" dir="ltr"/><input type="hidden" value="incategory:&quot;All Wikipedia article alert reports&quot;" name="searchfilter"/><br/><input type="hidden" name="ns4" value="1" id="mw-inputbox-ns4-0.958038374278" checked="checked"/><br/><input type="submit" name="fulltext" class="mw-ui-button" value="Search"/></form></div>
-<p>If I search for say 'Airport' in the above, I'm taking to an empty result page. I'd expect it to find <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Airports/Article_alerts" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Airports/Article alerts">Wikipedia:WikiProject Airports/Article alerts</a>, giving it's in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:All_Wikipedia_article_alert_reports" title="Category:All Wikipedia article alert reports">Category:All Wikipedia article alert reports</a>.  <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> 13:30, 11 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-08-11T13:30:00.000Z|Why_do_my_searches_come_up_empty?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-08-11T14:00:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-11T13:30:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-11T13:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Headbomb&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Headbomb|2019-08-11T13:30:00.000Z|Why_do_my_searches_come_up_empty?"></span>
+<p>If I search for say 'Airport' in the above, I'm taking to an empty result page. I'd expect it to find <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Airports/Article_alerts" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Airports/Article alerts">Wikipedia:WikiProject Airports/Article alerts</a>, giving it's in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:All_Wikipedia_article_alert_reports" title="Category:All Wikipedia article alert reports">Category:All Wikipedia article alert reports</a>.  <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> 13:30, 11 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-08-11T13:30:00.000Z|Why_do_my_searches_come_up_empty?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-08-11T14:00:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-11T13:30:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-11T13:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Headbomb&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Headbomb|2019-08-11T13:30:00.000Z|Why_do_my_searches_come_up_empty?"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ammarpad|2019-08-11T14:00:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-11T13:30:00.000Z"></span>For category search to work correctly, the category has to actually be in the source text. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Airports/Article_alerts" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Airports/Article alerts">Wikipedia:WikiProject Airports/Article alerts</a> is only in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:All_Wikipedia_article_alert_reports" title="Category:All Wikipedia article alert reports">Category:All Wikipedia article alert reports</a> via a template transclusion. So for the search extension, the page does not have that category since it's not in its wikitext. – <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ammarpad" title="User:Ammarpad">Ammarpad</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ammarpad" title="User talk:Ammarpad">talk</a>) 14:00, 11 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-08-11T14:00:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-11T13:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-08-11T14:36:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-11T14:00:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-11T14:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ammarpad&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ammarpad|2019-08-11T14:00:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-11T13:30:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Headbomb|2019-08-11T14:36:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-11T14:00:00.000Z"></span>That is... rather silly. I'll find another way then.  <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> 14:36, 11 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-08-11T14:36:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-11T14:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-08-11T14:37:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-11T14:36:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-11T14:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Headbomb&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Headbomb|2019-08-11T14:36:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-11T14:00:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Headbomb|2019-08-11T14:37:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-11T14:36:00.000Z"></span>Actually now it shows up. Probably a caching issue then.  <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> 14:37, 11 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-08-11T14:37:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-11T14:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-08-12T08:27:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-11T14:37:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-11T14:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Headbomb&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Headbomb|2019-08-11T14:37:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-11T14:36:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ammarpad|2019-08-12T08:27:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-11T14:37:00.000Z"></span>True. I see that. I believe it must have been enhanced at sometime, it previously didn't work with transclusion. – <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ammarpad" title="User:Ammarpad">Ammarpad</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ammarpad" title="User talk:Ammarpad">talk</a>) 08:27, 12 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-08-12T08:27:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-11T14:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-12T08:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ammarpad&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ammarpad|2019-08-12T08:27:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-11T14:37:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ammarpad|2019-08-11T14:00:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-11T13:30:00.000Z"></span>For category search to work correctly, the category has to actually be in the source text. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Airports/Article_alerts" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Airports/Article alerts">Wikipedia:WikiProject Airports/Article alerts</a> is only in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:All_Wikipedia_article_alert_reports" title="Category:All Wikipedia article alert reports">Category:All Wikipedia article alert reports</a> via a template transclusion. So for the search extension, the page does not have that category since it's not in its wikitext. – <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ammarpad" title="User:Ammarpad">Ammarpad</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ammarpad" title="User talk:Ammarpad">talk</a>) 14:00, 11 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-08-11T14:00:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-11T13:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-08-11T14:36:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-11T14:00:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-11T14:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ammarpad&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ammarpad|2019-08-11T14:00:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-11T13:30:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Headbomb|2019-08-11T14:36:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-11T14:00:00.000Z"></span>That is... rather silly. I'll find another way then.  <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> 14:36, 11 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-08-11T14:36:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-11T14:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-08-11T14:37:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-11T14:36:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-11T14:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Headbomb&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Headbomb|2019-08-11T14:36:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-11T14:00:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Headbomb|2019-08-11T14:37:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-11T14:36:00.000Z"></span>Actually now it shows up. Probably a caching issue then.  <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> 14:37, 11 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-08-11T14:37:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-11T14:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-08-12T08:27:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-11T14:37:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-11T14:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Headbomb&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Headbomb|2019-08-11T14:37:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-11T14:36:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ammarpad|2019-08-12T08:27:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-11T14:37:00.000Z"></span>True. I see that. I believe it must have been enhanced at sometime, it previously didn't work with transclusion. – <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ammarpad" title="User:Ammarpad">Ammarpad</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ammarpad" title="User talk:Ammarpad">talk</a>) 08:27, 12 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-08-12T08:27:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-11T14:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-12T08:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ammarpad&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ammarpad|2019-08-12T08:27:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-11T14:37:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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 </p><h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Adjusting_edit_window_size" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Adjusting_edit_window_size|2019-08-12T07:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|JFG|2019-08-12T07:57:00.000Z|Adjusting_edit_window_size&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Adjusting_edit_window_size|2019-08-12T07:57:00.000Z"></span>Adjusting edit window size<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Adjusting_edit_window_size|2019-08-12T07:57:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JFG|2019-08-12T07:57:00.000Z|Adjusting_edit_window_size"></span>When editing in wikitext mode, is there a way to set the height of the edit window? Default seems to be 26 lines, and I almost always want about double that, especially when editing long articles or tables. I suppose there is a JS or CSS variable that can be adjusted somewhere? Also, this setting should be added to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences" title="Special:Preferences">Special:Preferences</a>, under the Editing tab, Editor section, to help non-technical users. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JFG" title="User:JFG">JFG</a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JFG" title="User talk:JFG">talk</a></sup> 07:57, 12 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JFG|2019-08-12T07:57:00.000Z|Adjusting_edit_window_size&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-08-12T08:25:00.000Z|JFG|2019-08-12T07:57:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-12T07:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JFG&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JFG|2019-08-12T07:57:00.000Z|Adjusting_edit_window_size"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JFG|2019-08-12T07:57:00.000Z|Adjusting_edit_window_size"></span>When editing in wikitext mode, is there a way to set the height of the edit window? Default seems to be 26 lines, and I almost always want about double that, especially when editing long articles or tables. I suppose there is a JS or CSS variable that can be adjusted somewhere? Also, this setting should be added to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences" title="Special:Preferences">Special:Preferences</a>, under the Editing tab, Editor section, to help non-technical users. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JFG" title="User:JFG">JFG</a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JFG" title="User talk:JFG">talk</a></sup> 07:57, 12 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JFG|2019-08-12T07:57:00.000Z|Adjusting_edit_window_size&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-08-12T08:25:00.000Z|JFG|2019-08-12T07:57:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-12T07:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JFG&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JFG|2019-08-12T07:57:00.000Z|Adjusting_edit_window_size"></span>
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 <dd><code class="mw-highlight" dir="ltr"><span class="p">.</span><span class="nc">mw-editform</span> <span class="p">#</span><span class="nn">wpTextbox1</span> <span class="p">{</span> <span class="k">max-height</span><span class="p">:</span> <span class="kc">none</span><span class="p">;</span> <span class="p">}</span></code></dd>
-<dd><code class="mw-highlight" dir="ltr"><span class="p">#</span><span class="nn">wpTextbox1</span> <span class="p">{</span> <span class="k">height</span><span class="p">:</span> <span class="mi">200</span><span class="kt">em</span><span class="p">;</span> <span class="p">}</span></code> – <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ammarpad" title="User:Ammarpad">Ammarpad</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ammarpad" title="User talk:Ammarpad">talk</a>) 08:25, 12 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-08-12T08:25:00.000Z|JFG|2019-08-12T07:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|JFG|2019-08-12T09:48:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-12T08:25:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-12T08:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ammarpad&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ammarpad|2019-08-12T08:25:00.000Z|JFG|2019-08-12T07:57:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JFG|2019-08-12T09:48:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-12T08:25:00.000Z"></span>More like quadrupled it… Thanks for the tip! Any idea where to suggest an easy setting for non-techies? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JFG" title="User:JFG">JFG</a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JFG" title="User talk:JFG">talk</a></sup> 09:48, 12 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JFG|2019-08-12T09:48:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-12T08:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Bruce1ee|2019-08-12T10:17:00.000Z|JFG|2019-08-12T09:48:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-12T09:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JFG&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JFG|2019-08-12T09:48:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-12T08:25:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bruce1ee|2019-08-12T10:17:00.000Z|JFG|2019-08-12T09:48:00.000Z"></span>AFAIR, a little while back you could change this in your Preferences. I don't know why it was removed. —<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bruce1ee" title="User:Bruce1ee">Bruce1ee</a><sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bruce1ee" title="User talk:Bruce1ee"><i>talk</i></a></sup> 10:17, 12 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bruce1ee|2019-08-12T10:17:00.000Z|JFG|2019-08-12T09:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-08-12T11:59:00.000Z|Bruce1ee|2019-08-12T10:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|JFG|2019-08-12T12:32:00.000Z|Bruce1ee|2019-08-12T10:17:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-12T10:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bruce1ee&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bruce1ee|2019-08-12T10:17:00.000Z|JFG|2019-08-12T09:48:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ammarpad|2019-08-12T11:59:00.000Z|Bruce1ee|2019-08-12T10:17:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JFG" title="User:JFG">JFG</a>:</span>, that's true, I forgot that the size I doubled was for the default 'maximum height' of the viewport. Also note that the text area is already resizable on the fly by clicking and dragging the two diagonal lines at the bottom right corner. Actually that way is more flexible than using fixed size from your personal CSS. On your second question, that'd be making a <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Gadget" title="Wikipedia:Gadget">gadget</a> to allow one-click from Preferences page, but this is not something a lot of people are looking for, so it's not good candidate for that. Also as Bruce1ee said, it used to be somewhere on that page but I believe it must have been removed during the effort to get rid of seldom-used preferences. – <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ammarpad" title="User:Ammarpad">Ammarpad</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ammarpad" title="User talk:Ammarpad">talk</a>) 11:59, 12 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-08-12T11:59:00.000Z|Bruce1ee|2019-08-12T10:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-12T12:20:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-12T11:59:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-12T11:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ammarpad&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ammarpad|2019-08-12T11:59:00.000Z|Bruce1ee|2019-08-12T10:17:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-12T12:20:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-12T11:59:00.000Z"></span>See <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T26430" class="extiw" title="phab:T26430">phab:T26430</a> and <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155153" class="extiw" title="phab:T155153">phab:T155153</a> for the removal. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 12:20, 12 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-12T12:20:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-12T11:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-12T12:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-12T12:20:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-12T11:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JFG|2019-08-12T12:32:00.000Z|Bruce1ee|2019-08-12T10:17:00.000Z"></span>Right: I was always losing time to drag that edit window bigger before I could work. Thanks for the pointers to relevant phab tickets. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JFG" title="User:JFG">JFG</a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JFG" title="User talk:JFG">talk</a></sup> 12:32, 12 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JFG|2019-08-12T12:32:00.000Z|Bruce1ee|2019-08-12T10:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-08-12T19:51:00.000Z|JFG|2019-08-12T12:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-12T12:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JFG&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JFG|2019-08-12T12:32:00.000Z|Bruce1ee|2019-08-12T10:17:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-08-12T19:51:00.000Z|JFG|2019-08-12T12:32:00.000Z"></span>This has been covered several times here at VPT, see for example <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_153#Edit_box_size" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 153">Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 153#Edit box size</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_169#Hard_to_scroll_down_in_lower_right_corner_of_edit_window" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 169">Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 169#Hard to scroll down in lower right corner of edit window</a>, and it's also buried in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_171#Separate_buttons_for_single_and_double_bracket_links_in_the_editing_toolbar" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 171">Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 171#Separate buttons for single and double bracket links in the editing toolbar</a> (my reply of 23:48, 15 November 2018). There are other related threads in the archives. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 19:51, 12 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-08-12T19:51:00.000Z|JFG|2019-08-12T12:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|JFG|2019-08-12T21:30:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-08-12T19:51:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-12T19:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-08-12T19:51:00.000Z|JFG|2019-08-12T12:32:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JFG|2019-08-12T21:30:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-08-12T19:51:00.000Z"></span>Mmmhh… If that's a perennial question here at VPT, perhaps the idea of re-instating a visible user setting might be answering some latent demand. First phab ticket was about columns, and that's probably not necessary given adaptive width, but in the second ticket the setting for rows was apparently discarded in one lump with the columns. Shall ww re-instate the rows setting? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JFG" title="User:JFG">JFG</a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JFG" title="User talk:JFG">talk</a></sup> 21:30, 12 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JFG|2019-08-12T21:30:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-08-12T19:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-12T21:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JFG&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JFG|2019-08-12T21:30:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-08-12T19:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dd><code class="mw-highlight" dir="ltr"><span class="p">#</span><span class="nn">wpTextbox1</span> <span class="p">{</span> <span class="k">height</span><span class="p">:</span> <span class="mi">200</span><span class="kt">em</span><span class="p">;</span> <span class="p">}</span></code> – <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ammarpad" title="User:Ammarpad">Ammarpad</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ammarpad" title="User talk:Ammarpad">talk</a>) 08:25, 12 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-08-12T08:25:00.000Z|JFG|2019-08-12T07:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|JFG|2019-08-12T09:48:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-12T08:25:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-12T08:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ammarpad&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ammarpad|2019-08-12T08:25:00.000Z|JFG|2019-08-12T07:57:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JFG|2019-08-12T09:48:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-12T08:25:00.000Z"></span>More like quadrupled it… Thanks for the tip! Any idea where to suggest an easy setting for non-techies? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JFG" title="User:JFG">JFG</a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JFG" title="User talk:JFG">talk</a></sup> 09:48, 12 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JFG|2019-08-12T09:48:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-12T08:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Bruce1ee|2019-08-12T10:17:00.000Z|JFG|2019-08-12T09:48:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-12T09:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JFG&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JFG|2019-08-12T09:48:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-12T08:25:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bruce1ee|2019-08-12T10:17:00.000Z|JFG|2019-08-12T09:48:00.000Z"></span>AFAIR, a little while back you could change this in your Preferences. I don't know why it was removed. —<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bruce1ee" title="User:Bruce1ee">Bruce1ee</a><sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bruce1ee" title="User talk:Bruce1ee"><i>talk</i></a></sup> 10:17, 12 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bruce1ee|2019-08-12T10:17:00.000Z|JFG|2019-08-12T09:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-08-12T11:59:00.000Z|Bruce1ee|2019-08-12T10:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|JFG|2019-08-12T12:32:00.000Z|Bruce1ee|2019-08-12T10:17:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-12T10:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bruce1ee&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bruce1ee|2019-08-12T10:17:00.000Z|JFG|2019-08-12T09:48:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ammarpad|2019-08-12T11:59:00.000Z|Bruce1ee|2019-08-12T10:17:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JFG" title="User:JFG">JFG</a>:</span>, that's true, I forgot that the size I doubled was for the default 'maximum height' of the viewport. Also note that the text area is already resizable on the fly by clicking and dragging the two diagonal lines at the bottom right corner. Actually that way is more flexible than using fixed size from your personal CSS. On your second question, that'd be making a <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Gadget" title="Wikipedia:Gadget">gadget</a> to allow one-click from Preferences page, but this is not something a lot of people are looking for, so it's not good candidate for that. Also as Bruce1ee said, it used to be somewhere on that page but I believe it must have been removed during the effort to get rid of seldom-used preferences. – <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ammarpad" title="User:Ammarpad">Ammarpad</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ammarpad" title="User talk:Ammarpad">talk</a>) 11:59, 12 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-08-12T11:59:00.000Z|Bruce1ee|2019-08-12T10:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-12T12:20:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-12T11:59:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-12T11:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ammarpad&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ammarpad|2019-08-12T11:59:00.000Z|Bruce1ee|2019-08-12T10:17:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-12T12:20:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-12T11:59:00.000Z"></span>See <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T26430" class="extiw" title="phab:T26430">phab:T26430</a> and <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155153" class="extiw" title="phab:T155153">phab:T155153</a> for the removal. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 12:20, 12 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-12T12:20:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-12T11:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-12T12:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-12T12:20:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-12T11:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JFG|2019-08-12T12:32:00.000Z|Bruce1ee|2019-08-12T10:17:00.000Z"></span>Right: I was always losing time to drag that edit window bigger before I could work. Thanks for the pointers to relevant phab tickets. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JFG" title="User:JFG">JFG</a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JFG" title="User talk:JFG">talk</a></sup> 12:32, 12 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JFG|2019-08-12T12:32:00.000Z|Bruce1ee|2019-08-12T10:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-08-12T19:51:00.000Z|JFG|2019-08-12T12:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-12T12:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JFG&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JFG|2019-08-12T12:32:00.000Z|Bruce1ee|2019-08-12T10:17:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-08-12T19:51:00.000Z|JFG|2019-08-12T12:32:00.000Z"></span>This has been covered several times here at VPT, see for example <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_153#Edit_box_size" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 153">Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 153#Edit box size</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_169#Hard_to_scroll_down_in_lower_right_corner_of_edit_window" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 169">Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 169#Hard to scroll down in lower right corner of edit window</a>, and it's also buried in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_171#Separate_buttons_for_single_and_double_bracket_links_in_the_editing_toolbar" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 171">Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 171#Separate buttons for single and double bracket links in the editing toolbar</a> (my reply of 23:48, 15 November 2018). There are other related threads in the archives. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 19:51, 12 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-08-12T19:51:00.000Z|JFG|2019-08-12T12:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|JFG|2019-08-12T21:30:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-08-12T19:51:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-12T19:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-08-12T19:51:00.000Z|JFG|2019-08-12T12:32:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JFG|2019-08-12T21:30:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-08-12T19:51:00.000Z"></span>Mmmhh… If that's a perennial question here at VPT, perhaps the idea of re-instating a visible user setting might be answering some latent demand. First phab ticket was about columns, and that's probably not necessary given adaptive width, but in the second ticket the setting for rows was apparently discarded in one lump with the columns. Shall ww re-instate the rows setting? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JFG" title="User:JFG">JFG</a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JFG" title="User talk:JFG">talk</a></sup> 21:30, 12 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JFG|2019-08-12T21:30:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-08-12T19:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-12T21:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JFG&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JFG|2019-08-12T21:30:00.000Z|Redrose64|2019-08-12T19:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Blocked_spammer_posts_link" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Blocked_spammer_posts_link|2019-08-12T04:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-08-12T04:48:00.000Z|Blocked_spammer_posts_link&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Blocked_spammer_posts_link|2019-08-12T04:48:00.000Z"></span>Blocked spammer posts link<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Blocked_spammer_posts_link|2019-08-12T04:48:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nyttend|2019-08-12T04:48:00.000Z|Blocked_spammer_posts_link"></span>Many or most of the blocks I perform are for spam-only accounts, especially those whose only edits are placing spam on their userpage.  Just in case someone wants to apologise and become productive, I leave the talk page open when I do a {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Uw-spamblock" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Uw-spamblock">uw-spamblock</a>}}, unless the talk page itself has been used for spamming.  On one hand, I don't want to shut down access without evidence of abuse, but on the other hand, it's possible that the talk page would be used abusively.  My interest, therefore, is finding an automated way (i.e. without human edits or bot edits) to detect a post-block addition of an external link, the results of which could be evaluated as spam or not-spam by a human.  I'm envisioning the following criteria:
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 <ul><li>User has been indefinitely blocked for spamming — detect because user is indefinitely blocked, and either rationale or talk page has {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Uw-spamblock" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Uw-spamblock">uw-spamblock</a>}} or some other "you have been blocked for spamming" template</li>
 <li>After block is performed, user edits talk page and adds an external link</li>
 <li>If user has added {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Unblock" title="Template:Unblock">unblock</a>}}, the external link is not inside the unblock template</li></ul>
-<p>Obviously this kind of thing happens sometimes, but I have no clue how often; in case it's a rare event, I don't want to request an edit filter and tie up system resources.  Is there any other way to detect this (either conclusively or "this is likely"), perhaps a database report of users that are indefinitely blocked and that have external links on their talk pages?  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nyttend" title="User talk:Nyttend">talk</a>) 04:48, 12 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-08-12T04:48:00.000Z|Blocked_spammer_posts_link&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Anomie|2019-08-12T12:59:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-08-12T04:48:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-12T04:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nyttend&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nyttend|2019-08-12T04:48:00.000Z|Blocked_spammer_posts_link"></span>
+<p>Obviously this kind of thing happens sometimes, but I have no clue how often; in case it's a rare event, I don't want to request an edit filter and tie up system resources.  Is there any other way to detect this (either conclusively or "this is likely"), perhaps a database report of users that are indefinitely blocked and that have external links on their talk pages?  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nyttend" title="User talk:Nyttend">talk</a>) 04:48, 12 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-08-12T04:48:00.000Z|Blocked_spammer_posts_link&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Anomie|2019-08-12T12:59:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-08-12T04:48:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-12T04:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nyttend&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nyttend|2019-08-12T04:48:00.000Z|Blocked_spammer_posts_link"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Anomie|2019-08-12T12:59:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-08-12T04:48:00.000Z"></span>Here's a Quarry query that might serve as a database report: <a href="https://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/38333" class="extiw" title="quarry:query/38333">quarry:query/38333</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anomie" title="User:Anomie">Anomie</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anomie" title="User talk:Anomie">⚔</a> 12:59, 12 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Anomie|2019-08-12T12:59:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-08-12T04:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-08-13T02:12:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-08-12T12:59:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-12T12:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Anomie&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Anomie|2019-08-12T12:59:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-08-12T04:48:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nyttend|2019-08-13T02:12:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-08-12T12:59:00.000Z"></span>Hi, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anomie" title="User:Anomie">Anomie</a>, and thank you.  One question — can you embed links in the report, and if you can, would you link the talk pages in question?  It would be a lot faster to look at these pages if I could just click a link.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nyttend" title="User talk:Nyttend">talk</a>) 02:12, 13 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-08-13T02:12:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-08-12T12:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Anomie|2019-08-13T11:57:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-08-13T02:12:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-13T02:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nyttend&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nyttend|2019-08-13T02:12:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-08-12T12:59:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Anomie|2019-08-13T11:57:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-08-13T02:12:00.000Z"></span>There does not appear to be a way to directly embed links in the quarry output. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anomie" title="User:Anomie">Anomie</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anomie" title="User talk:Anomie">⚔</a> 11:57, 13 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Anomie|2019-08-13T11:57:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-08-13T02:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-13T11:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Anomie&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Anomie|2019-08-13T11:57:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-08-13T02:12:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Anomie|2019-08-12T12:59:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-08-12T04:48:00.000Z"></span>Here's a Quarry query that might serve as a database report: <a href="https://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/38333" class="extiw" title="quarry:query/38333">quarry:query/38333</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anomie" title="User:Anomie">Anomie</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anomie" title="User talk:Anomie">⚔</a> 12:59, 12 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Anomie|2019-08-12T12:59:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-08-12T04:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-08-13T02:12:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-08-12T12:59:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-12T12:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Anomie&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Anomie|2019-08-12T12:59:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-08-12T04:48:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nyttend|2019-08-13T02:12:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-08-12T12:59:00.000Z"></span>Hi, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anomie" title="User:Anomie">Anomie</a>, and thank you.  One question — can you embed links in the report, and if you can, would you link the talk pages in question?  It would be a lot faster to look at these pages if I could just click a link.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nyttend" title="User talk:Nyttend">talk</a>) 02:12, 13 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nyttend|2019-08-13T02:12:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-08-12T12:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Anomie|2019-08-13T11:57:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-08-13T02:12:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-13T02:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nyttend&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nyttend|2019-08-13T02:12:00.000Z|Anomie|2019-08-12T12:59:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Anomie|2019-08-13T11:57:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-08-13T02:12:00.000Z"></span>There does not appear to be a way to directly embed links in the quarry output. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anomie" title="User:Anomie">Anomie</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anomie" title="User talk:Anomie">⚔</a> 11:57, 13 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Anomie|2019-08-13T11:57:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-08-13T02:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-13T11:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Anomie&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Anomie|2019-08-13T11:57:00.000Z|Nyttend|2019-08-13T02:12:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id="Review_of_new_articles_and_Google.2FWiki_search"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Review_of_new_articles_and_Google/Wiki_search" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Review_of_new_articles_and_Google\/Wiki_search|2019-08-13T05:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T05:40:00.000Z|Review_of_new_articles_and_Google\/Wiki_search&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Review_of_new_articles_and_Google/Wiki_search|2019-08-13T05:40:00.000Z"></span>Review of new articles and Google/Wiki search<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Review_of_new_articles_and_Google/Wiki_search|2019-08-13T05:40:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T05:40:00.000Z|Review_of_new_articles_and_Google/Wiki_search"></span>Why new articles if not reviewed don't appear in Google search at all (as if non-indexed) and appear in Wiki search only when full name written? I guess there are some users who have reviewer user rights but it seems they miss to review some articles. I created several articles with my extended confirmed account and they stayed on Wikipedia but don't appear in searches for months. Do I need to request somewhere special for it* to be done or ask some user who already did it* once only for one of 'my' articles (*review for each article)? Thanks. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/5.43.96.116" title="Special:Contributions/5.43.96.116">5.43.96.116</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:5.43.96.116&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:5.43.96.116 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 05:40, 13 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T05:40:00.000Z|Review_of_new_articles_and_Google\/Wiki_search&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-13T11:08:00.000Z|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T05:40:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-13T05:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;5.43.96.116&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T05:40:00.000Z|Review_of_new_articles_and_Google/Wiki_search"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T05:40:00.000Z|Review_of_new_articles_and_Google/Wiki_search"></span>Why new articles if not reviewed don't appear in Google search at all (as if non-indexed) and appear in Wiki search only when full name written? I guess there are some users who have reviewer user rights but it seems they miss to review some articles. I created several articles with my extended confirmed account and they stayed on Wikipedia but don't appear in searches for months. Do I need to request somewhere special for it* to be done or ask some user who already did it* once only for one of 'my' articles (*review for each article)? Thanks. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/5.43.96.116" title="Special:Contributions/5.43.96.116">5.43.96.116</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:5.43.96.116&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:5.43.96.116 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 05:40, 13 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T05:40:00.000Z|Review_of_new_articles_and_Google\/Wiki_search&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-13T11:08:00.000Z|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T05:40:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-13T05:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;5.43.96.116&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T05:40:00.000Z|Review_of_new_articles_and_Google/Wiki_search"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-13T11:08:00.000Z|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T05:40:00.000Z"></span>See <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Controlling_search_engine_indexing#Indexing_of_articles_(&quot;mainspace&quot;)" title="Wikipedia:Controlling search engine indexing">Wikipedia:Controlling_search_engine_indexing#Indexing_of_articles_("mainspace")</a>. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 11:08, 13 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-13T11:08:00.000Z|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T05:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T13:26:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-13T11:08:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-13T11:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-13T11:08:00.000Z|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T05:40:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T13:26:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-13T11:08:00.000Z"></span>Thank you. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/5.43.96.116" title="Special:Contributions/5.43.96.116">5.43.96.116</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:5.43.96.116&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:5.43.96.116 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 13:26, 13 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T13:26:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-13T11:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-13T13:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;5.43.96.116&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T13:26:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-13T11:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-13T11:08:00.000Z|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T05:40:00.000Z"></span>See <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Controlling_search_engine_indexing#Indexing_of_articles_(&quot;mainspace&quot;)" title="Wikipedia:Controlling search engine indexing">Wikipedia:Controlling_search_engine_indexing#Indexing_of_articles_("mainspace")</a>. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 11:08, 13 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-13T11:08:00.000Z|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T05:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T13:26:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-13T11:08:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-13T11:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-13T11:08:00.000Z|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T05:40:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T13:26:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-13T11:08:00.000Z"></span>Thank you. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/5.43.96.116" title="Special:Contributions/5.43.96.116">5.43.96.116</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:5.43.96.116&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:5.43.96.116 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 13:26, 13 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T13:26:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-13T11:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-13T13:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;5.43.96.116&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T13:26:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-13T11:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id="Conflict_between_Template:Shortcut.2C_lists_and_Microsoft"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Conflict_between_Template:Shortcut,_lists_and_Microsoft" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Conflict_between_Template:Shortcut,_lists_and_Microsoft|2019-08-13T20:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-08-13T20:39:00.000Z|Conflict_between_Template:Shortcut,_lists_and_Microsoft&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Conflict_between_Template:Shortcut,_lists_and_Microsoft|2019-08-13T20:39:00.000Z"></span>Conflict between Template:Shortcut, lists and Microsoft<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Conflict_between_Template:Shortcut,_lists_and_Microsoft|2019-08-13T20:39:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<div role="note" style="margin: 1em;" class="FYI"><span style="border: 1px solid #aaa; background-color: #fcfcf9; margin-right: 0.5em; padding: 0.5em;"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-08-13T20:39:00.000Z|Conflict_between_Template:Shortcut,_lists_and_Microsoft"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/20px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/30px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/40px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FYI" title="FYI">FYI</a>:</span> <span style="font-size: 85%">Pointer to relevant discussion elsewhere. </span></div><p> Please see <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Shortcut#When_in_a_list_item,_Edge_and_IE_have_a_sad_day" title="Template talk:Shortcut">Template talk:Shortcut#When in a list item, Edge and IE have a sad day</a>. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 20:39, 13 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-08-13T20:39:00.000Z|Conflict_between_Template:Shortcut,_lists_and_Microsoft&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-13T20:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-08-13T20:39:00.000Z|Conflict_between_Template:Shortcut,_lists_and_Microsoft"></span>
+<div role="note" style="margin: 1em;" class="FYI"><span style="border: 1px solid #aaa; background-color: #fcfcf9; margin-right: 0.5em; padding: 0.5em;"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-08-13T20:39:00.000Z|Conflict_between_Template:Shortcut,_lists_and_Microsoft"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/20px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/30px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/40px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FYI" title="FYI">FYI</a>:</span> <span style="font-size: 85%">Pointer to relevant discussion elsewhere. </span></div><p> Please see <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Shortcut#When_in_a_list_item,_Edge_and_IE_have_a_sad_day" title="Template talk:Shortcut">Template talk:Shortcut#When in a list item, Edge and IE have a sad day</a>. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 20:39, 13 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-08-13T20:39:00.000Z|Conflict_between_Template:Shortcut,_lists_and_Microsoft&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-13T20:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-08-13T20:39:00.000Z|Conflict_between_Template:Shortcut,_lists_and_Microsoft"></span>
 </p><h2><span id="Thumbnail_image_doesn.27t_show_in_List_of_tallest_structures_in_Tokyo"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Thumbnail_image_doesn't_show_in_List_of_tallest_structures_in_Tokyo" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Thumbnail_image_doesn't_show_in_List_of_tallest_structures_in_Tokyo|2019-07-29T22:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Fireattack|2019-07-29T22:49:00.000Z|Thumbnail_image_doesn't_show_in_List_of_tallest_structures_in_Tokyo&quot;,&quot;c|George Ho|2019-08-06T00:13:00.000Z|Thumbnail_image_doesn't_show_in_List_of_tallest_structures_in_Tokyo&quot;,&quot;c|Fireattack|2019-08-06T20:42:00.000Z|Thumbnail_image_doesn't_show_in_List_of_tallest_structures_in_Tokyo&quot;,&quot;c|Master of Time|2019-08-14T05:43:00.000Z|Thumbnail_image_doesn't_show_in_List_of_tallest_structures_in_Tokyo&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Thumbnail_image_doesn't_show_in_List_of_tallest_structures_in_Tokyo|2019-07-29T22:49:00.000Z"></span>Thumbnail image doesn't show in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_structures_in_Tokyo" title="List of tallest structures in Tokyo">List of tallest structures in Tokyo</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h|Thumbnail_image_doesn't_show_in_List_of_tallest_structures_in_Tokyo|2019-07-29T22:49:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
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 <p>The thumbnail of No. 28 (Shin-Marunouchi Building) in list 1 doesn't show up here. it has been like this for days. I tried to purge the page, didn't help.
-</p><p>Any clue? Thanks.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fireattack" title="User:Fireattack">fireattack</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fireattack" title="User talk:Fireattack">talk</a>) 22:49, 29 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Fireattack|2019-07-29T22:49:00.000Z|Thumbnail_image_doesn't_show_in_List_of_tallest_structures_in_Tokyo&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T01:13:00.000Z|Fireattack|2019-07-29T22:49:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-29T22:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Fireattack&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Fireattack|2019-07-29T22:49:00.000Z|Thumbnail_image_doesn't_show_in_List_of_tallest_structures_in_Tokyo"></span>
+</p><p>Any clue? Thanks.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fireattack" title="User:Fireattack">fireattack</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fireattack" title="User talk:Fireattack">talk</a>) 22:49, 29 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Fireattack|2019-07-29T22:49:00.000Z|Thumbnail_image_doesn't_show_in_List_of_tallest_structures_in_Tokyo&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T01:13:00.000Z|Fireattack|2019-07-29T22:49:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-29T22:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Fireattack&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Fireattack|2019-07-29T22:49:00.000Z|Thumbnail_image_doesn't_show_in_List_of_tallest_structures_in_Tokyo"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T01:13:00.000Z|Fireattack|2019-07-29T22:49:00.000Z"></span>It works for me. Try to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BYPASS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BYPASS">bypass your own cache</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 01:13, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T01:13:00.000Z|Fireattack|2019-07-29T22:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Fireattack|2019-07-30T10:17:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T01:13:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T01:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T01:13:00.000Z|Fireattack|2019-07-29T22:49:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T01:13:00.000Z|Fireattack|2019-07-29T22:49:00.000Z"></span>It works for me. Try to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BYPASS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BYPASS">bypass your own cache</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 01:13, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T01:13:00.000Z|Fireattack|2019-07-29T22:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Fireattack|2019-07-30T10:17:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T01:13:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T01:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T01:13:00.000Z|Fireattack|2019-07-29T22:49:00.000Z"></span>
 <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Fireattack|2019-07-30T10:17:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T01:13:00.000Z"></span>I think the reason is that particular thumbnail returns the header says "content-type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded" instead of common "image/jpeg".</dd>
 <dd>Can you try to open <a class="external free" href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8a/Shin-marunouchi.Building-2007-01.jpg/100px-Shin-marunouchi.Building-2007-01.jpg">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8a/Shin-marunouchi.Building-2007-01.jpg/100px-Shin-marunouchi.Building-2007-01.jpg</a> directly and see what happens? Here, it will try to download itself instead of just display. I can see this weird behavior in both Firefox and Chrome and it doesn't happen to other images.</dd>
-<dd>But in Firefox, it can still display the image this way in &lt;img> tag (but not in Chrome). --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fireattack" title="User:Fireattack">fireattack</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fireattack" title="User talk:Fireattack">talk</a>) 10:17, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Fireattack|2019-07-30T10:17:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T01:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T10:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Fireattack&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Fireattack|2019-07-30T10:17:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T01:13:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|George Ho|2019-08-06T00:13:00.000Z|Thumbnail_image_doesn't_show_in_List_of_tallest_structures_in_Tokyo"></span>Not just this list, some other thumbnail images don't load well at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Cheers_characters" title="List of Cheers characters">List of Cheers characters</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Friends_characters" class="mw-redirect" title="List of Friends characters">List of Friends characters</a>, and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Big_Bang_Theory_and_Young_Sheldon_characters" title="List of The Big Bang Theory and Young Sheldon characters">List of The Big Bang Theory and Young Sheldon characters</a>. Check other list pages. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:George_Ho" title="User:George Ho">George Ho</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:George_Ho" title="User talk:George Ho">talk</a>) 00:13, 6 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|George Ho|2019-08-06T00:13:00.000Z|Thumbnail_image_doesn't_show_in_List_of_tallest_structures_in_Tokyo&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-06T00:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;George Ho&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|George Ho|2019-08-06T00:13:00.000Z|Thumbnail_image_doesn't_show_in_List_of_tallest_structures_in_Tokyo"></span>
-</p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Fireattack|2019-08-06T20:42:00.000Z|Thumbnail_image_doesn't_show_in_List_of_tallest_structures_in_Tokyo"></span>Update: The root cause is <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188831" class="extiw" title="phab:T188831">Phab:T188831</a>. And about why it starts to cause more apparent issue, see <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=990853">https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=990853</a> .--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fireattack" title="User:Fireattack">fireattack</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fireattack" title="User talk:Fireattack">talk</a>) 20:42, 6 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Fireattack|2019-08-06T20:42:00.000Z|Thumbnail_image_doesn't_show_in_List_of_tallest_structures_in_Tokyo&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-06T20:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Fireattack&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Fireattack|2019-08-06T20:42:00.000Z|Thumbnail_image_doesn't_show_in_List_of_tallest_structures_in_Tokyo"></span>
-</p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Master of Time|2019-08-14T05:43:00.000Z|Thumbnail_image_doesn't_show_in_List_of_tallest_structures_in_Tokyo"></span>Saw the issue at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_films" title="List of highest-grossing films">List of highest-grossing films</a> as well with the first image. Hopefully it will be resolved before long. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Master_of_Time" title="User:Master of Time"><span style="color:green; font-family:Times New Roman"><u>Master of Time</u></span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Master_of_Time" title="User talk:Master of Time">(<span style="color:green; font-family:Times New Roman">talk</span>)</a> 05:43, 14 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Master of Time|2019-08-14T05:43:00.000Z|Thumbnail_image_doesn't_show_in_List_of_tallest_structures_in_Tokyo&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-14T05:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Master of Time&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Master of Time|2019-08-14T05:43:00.000Z|Thumbnail_image_doesn't_show_in_List_of_tallest_structures_in_Tokyo"></span>
+<dd>But in Firefox, it can still display the image this way in &lt;img> tag (but not in Chrome). --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fireattack" title="User:Fireattack">fireattack</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fireattack" title="User talk:Fireattack">talk</a>) 10:17, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Fireattack|2019-07-30T10:17:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T01:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T10:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Fireattack&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Fireattack|2019-07-30T10:17:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-07-30T01:13:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|George Ho|2019-08-06T00:13:00.000Z|Thumbnail_image_doesn't_show_in_List_of_tallest_structures_in_Tokyo"></span>Not just this list, some other thumbnail images don't load well at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Cheers_characters" title="List of Cheers characters">List of Cheers characters</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Friends_characters" class="mw-redirect" title="List of Friends characters">List of Friends characters</a>, and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Big_Bang_Theory_and_Young_Sheldon_characters" title="List of The Big Bang Theory and Young Sheldon characters">List of The Big Bang Theory and Young Sheldon characters</a>. Check other list pages. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:George_Ho" title="User:George Ho">George Ho</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:George_Ho" title="User talk:George Ho">talk</a>) 00:13, 6 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|George Ho|2019-08-06T00:13:00.000Z|Thumbnail_image_doesn't_show_in_List_of_tallest_structures_in_Tokyo&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-06T00:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;George Ho&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|George Ho|2019-08-06T00:13:00.000Z|Thumbnail_image_doesn't_show_in_List_of_tallest_structures_in_Tokyo"></span>
+</p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Fireattack|2019-08-06T20:42:00.000Z|Thumbnail_image_doesn't_show_in_List_of_tallest_structures_in_Tokyo"></span>Update: The root cause is <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188831" class="extiw" title="phab:T188831">Phab:T188831</a>. And about why it starts to cause more apparent issue, see <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=990853">https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=990853</a> .--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fireattack" title="User:Fireattack">fireattack</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fireattack" title="User talk:Fireattack">talk</a>) 20:42, 6 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Fireattack|2019-08-06T20:42:00.000Z|Thumbnail_image_doesn't_show_in_List_of_tallest_structures_in_Tokyo&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-06T20:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Fireattack&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Fireattack|2019-08-06T20:42:00.000Z|Thumbnail_image_doesn't_show_in_List_of_tallest_structures_in_Tokyo"></span>
+</p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Master of Time|2019-08-14T05:43:00.000Z|Thumbnail_image_doesn't_show_in_List_of_tallest_structures_in_Tokyo"></span>Saw the issue at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_films" title="List of highest-grossing films">List of highest-grossing films</a> as well with the first image. Hopefully it will be resolved before long. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Master_of_Time" title="User:Master of Time"><span style="color:green; font-family:Times New Roman"><u>Master of Time</u></span></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Master_of_Time" title="User talk:Master of Time">(<span style="color:green; font-family:Times New Roman">talk</span>)</a> 05:43, 14 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Master of Time|2019-08-14T05:43:00.000Z|Thumbnail_image_doesn't_show_in_List_of_tallest_structures_in_Tokyo&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-14T05:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Master of Time&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Master of Time|2019-08-14T05:43:00.000Z|Thumbnail_image_doesn't_show_in_List_of_tallest_structures_in_Tokyo"></span>
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 <h2><span id="How_to_prevent_VisualEditor_from_automatically_loading_when_clicking_red_links.3F"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="How_to_prevent_VisualEditor_from_automatically_loading_when_clicking_red_links?" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|How_to_prevent_VisualEditor_from_automatically_loading_when_clicking_red_links?|2019-08-14T07:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|SoWhy|2019-08-14T07:31:00.000Z|How_to_prevent_VisualEditor_from_automatically_loading_when_clicking_red_links?&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|How_to_prevent_VisualEditor_from_automatically_loading_when_clicking_red_links?|2019-08-14T07:31:00.000Z"></span>How to prevent VisualEditor from automatically loading when clicking red links?<span data-mw-comment-end="h|How_to_prevent_VisualEditor_from_automatically_loading_when_clicking_red_links?|2019-08-14T07:31:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <div role="note" style="float:right; clear:right; border:1px solid #999; -moz-border-radius: 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 2px; border-radius: 2px; background-color:#eee; font-size:85%; text-align:center; padding:0.5em; margin-left:1em; margin-bottom:1em; width:12em" class="plainlinks mw-trackedTemplate"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SoWhy|2019-08-14T07:31:00.000Z|How_to_prevent_VisualEditor_from_automatically_loading_when_clicking_red_links?"></span>Tracked in <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/" class="extiw" title="phabricator:">Phabricator</a><br/><b><a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211379" class="extiw" title="phabricator:T211379"><span class="trakfab-T211379">Task T211379</span></a></b></div>
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-<p>Title says it all. VE often loads automatically when I open a red link which is annoying because most of the time, I do so to see the deleted edits. I can't seem to find a preference for it though. Regards <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SoWhy" title="User:SoWhy"><span style="color:#7A2F2F;font-variant:small-caps">So</span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SoWhy" title="User talk:SoWhy"><span style="color:#474F84;font-variant:small-caps">Why</span></a> 07:31, 14 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SoWhy|2019-08-14T07:31:00.000Z|How_to_prevent_VisualEditor_from_automatically_loading_when_clicking_red_links?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-08-14T08:21:00.000Z|SoWhy|2019-08-14T07:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-14T16:49:00.000Z|SoWhy|2019-08-14T07:31:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-14T07:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SoWhy&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SoWhy|2019-08-14T07:31:00.000Z|How_to_prevent_VisualEditor_from_automatically_loading_when_clicking_red_links?"></span>
+<p>Title says it all. VE often loads automatically when I open a red link which is annoying because most of the time, I do so to see the deleted edits. I can't seem to find a preference for it though. Regards <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SoWhy" title="User:SoWhy"><span style="color:#7A2F2F;font-variant:small-caps">So</span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SoWhy" title="User talk:SoWhy"><span style="color:#474F84;font-variant:small-caps">Why</span></a> 07:31, 14 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SoWhy|2019-08-14T07:31:00.000Z|How_to_prevent_VisualEditor_from_automatically_loading_when_clicking_red_links?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-08-14T08:21:00.000Z|SoWhy|2019-08-14T07:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-14T16:49:00.000Z|SoWhy|2019-08-14T07:31:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-14T07:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SoWhy&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SoWhy|2019-08-14T07:31:00.000Z|How_to_prevent_VisualEditor_from_automatically_loading_when_clicking_red_links?"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ammarpad|2019-08-14T08:21:00.000Z|SoWhy|2019-08-14T07:31:00.000Z"></span>This is the default behaviour for clicking all redlinks in both VE and Source editor (except Userpage redlink on mobile). There's a <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211379" class="extiw" title="phab:T211379">phab:T211379</a> asking to change this and there are comments that this is by design. – <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ammarpad" title="User:Ammarpad">Ammarpad</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ammarpad" title="User talk:Ammarpad">talk</a>) 08:21, 14 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-08-14T08:21:00.000Z|SoWhy|2019-08-14T07:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|SoWhy|2019-08-14T09:13:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-14T08:21:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-14T08:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ammarpad&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ammarpad|2019-08-14T08:21:00.000Z|SoWhy|2019-08-14T07:31:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SoWhy|2019-08-14T09:13:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-14T08:21:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ammarpad" title="User:Ammarpad">Ammarpad</a>:</span> Thanks for the phab-link! I dug up a snippet at <a class="external text" href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T195914#4791617">T195914</a> that prevents it (thanks to <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Classicwiki">Classicwiki</a></span>). Regards <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SoWhy" title="User:SoWhy"><span style="color:#7A2F2F;font-variant:small-caps">So</span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SoWhy" title="User talk:SoWhy"><span style="color:#474F84;font-variant:small-caps">Why</span></a> 09:13, 14 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SoWhy|2019-08-14T09:13:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-14T08:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-14T11:39:00.000Z|SoWhy|2019-08-14T09:13:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-14T09:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SoWhy&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SoWhy|2019-08-14T09:13:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-14T08:21:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-14T11:39:00.000Z|SoWhy|2019-08-14T09:13:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SoWhy" title="User:SoWhy">SoWhy</a>:</span> have you tried setting "<i>Temporarily disable the visual editor while it is in beta</i>" in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing" title="Special:Preferences">Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing</a>? I have that set and never get the visual editor unless I specifically switch to it. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 11:39, 14 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-14T11:39:00.000Z|SoWhy|2019-08-14T09:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|SoWhy|2019-08-14T11:58:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-14T11:39:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-14T11:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-14T11:39:00.000Z|SoWhy|2019-08-14T09:13:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SoWhy|2019-08-14T11:58:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-14T11:39:00.000Z"></span>No, because I actually use it quite extensively and that setting disables the links to the VE and the visual edit tabs that I use. But with the user script Classicwiki provided at phab, the problem is solved. Regards <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SoWhy" title="User:SoWhy"><span style="color:#7A2F2F;font-variant:small-caps">So</span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SoWhy" title="User talk:SoWhy"><span style="color:#474F84;font-variant:small-caps">Why</span></a> 11:58, 14 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SoWhy|2019-08-14T11:58:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-14T11:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-14T11:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SoWhy&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SoWhy|2019-08-14T11:58:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-14T11:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RoySmith|2019-08-14T16:49:00.000Z|SoWhy|2019-08-14T07:31:00.000Z"></span>I described a related problem <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)&amp;oldid=902833853#Can_no_longer_get_to_deleted_edits,_visual_editor_gets_in_the_way.">here</a> (and opened T226267 on it).  -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> 16:49, 14 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-14T16:49:00.000Z|SoWhy|2019-08-14T07:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-14T16:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RoySmith&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RoySmith|2019-08-14T16:49:00.000Z|SoWhy|2019-08-14T07:31:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ammarpad|2019-08-14T08:21:00.000Z|SoWhy|2019-08-14T07:31:00.000Z"></span>This is the default behaviour for clicking all redlinks in both VE and Source editor (except Userpage redlink on mobile). There's a <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211379" class="extiw" title="phab:T211379">phab:T211379</a> asking to change this and there are comments that this is by design. – <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ammarpad" title="User:Ammarpad">Ammarpad</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ammarpad" title="User talk:Ammarpad">talk</a>) 08:21, 14 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-08-14T08:21:00.000Z|SoWhy|2019-08-14T07:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|SoWhy|2019-08-14T09:13:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-14T08:21:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-14T08:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ammarpad&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ammarpad|2019-08-14T08:21:00.000Z|SoWhy|2019-08-14T07:31:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SoWhy|2019-08-14T09:13:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-14T08:21:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ammarpad" title="User:Ammarpad">Ammarpad</a>:</span> Thanks for the phab-link! I dug up a snippet at <a class="external text" href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T195914#4791617">T195914</a> that prevents it (thanks to <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Classicwiki">Classicwiki</a></span>). Regards <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SoWhy" title="User:SoWhy"><span style="color:#7A2F2F;font-variant:small-caps">So</span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SoWhy" title="User talk:SoWhy"><span style="color:#474F84;font-variant:small-caps">Why</span></a> 09:13, 14 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SoWhy|2019-08-14T09:13:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-14T08:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-14T11:39:00.000Z|SoWhy|2019-08-14T09:13:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-14T09:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SoWhy&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SoWhy|2019-08-14T09:13:00.000Z|Ammarpad|2019-08-14T08:21:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-14T11:39:00.000Z|SoWhy|2019-08-14T09:13:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SoWhy" title="User:SoWhy">SoWhy</a>:</span> have you tried setting "<i>Temporarily disable the visual editor while it is in beta</i>" in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing" title="Special:Preferences">Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing</a>? I have that set and never get the visual editor unless I specifically switch to it. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 11:39, 14 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-14T11:39:00.000Z|SoWhy|2019-08-14T09:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|SoWhy|2019-08-14T11:58:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-14T11:39:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-14T11:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-14T11:39:00.000Z|SoWhy|2019-08-14T09:13:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SoWhy|2019-08-14T11:58:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-14T11:39:00.000Z"></span>No, because I actually use it quite extensively and that setting disables the links to the VE and the visual edit tabs that I use. But with the user script Classicwiki provided at phab, the problem is solved. Regards <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SoWhy" title="User:SoWhy"><span style="color:#7A2F2F;font-variant:small-caps">So</span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SoWhy" title="User talk:SoWhy"><span style="color:#474F84;font-variant:small-caps">Why</span></a> 11:58, 14 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SoWhy|2019-08-14T11:58:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-14T11:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-14T11:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SoWhy&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SoWhy|2019-08-14T11:58:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-14T11:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RoySmith|2019-08-14T16:49:00.000Z|SoWhy|2019-08-14T07:31:00.000Z"></span>I described a related problem <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)&amp;oldid=902833853#Can_no_longer_get_to_deleted_edits,_visual_editor_gets_in_the_way.">here</a> (and opened T226267 on it).  -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> 16:49, 14 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-14T16:49:00.000Z|SoWhy|2019-08-14T07:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-14T16:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RoySmith&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RoySmith|2019-08-14T16:49:00.000Z|SoWhy|2019-08-14T07:31:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
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-<div role="note" style="margin: 1em;" class="resolved"><span style="border: 1px solid #aaa; background-color: #f9fcf9; margin-right: 0.5em; padding: 0.5em;"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Vchimpanzee|2019-08-14T17:55:00.000Z|Tools_for_history"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/20px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/40px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Resolved</span> </div><p>— <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vchimpanzee" title="User:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#070">Vchimpanzee</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Vchimpanzee" title="User talk:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#F80"> talk</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee" title="Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#700">contributions</span></a> •  17:55, 14 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vchimpanzee|2019-08-14T17:55:00.000Z|Tools_for_history&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-14T17:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vchimpanzee&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Vchimpanzee|2019-08-14T17:55:00.000Z|Tools_for_history"></span></p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Vchimpanzee|2019-08-14T14:49:00.000Z|Tools_for_history"></span>I didn't get a response <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help_talk:Page_history#How_can_I_see_Donald_Trump's_picture_from_when_he_was_elected_president?" title="Help talk:Page history">here</a> about why <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Page_history" title="Help:Page history">Help:Page history</a> didn't have directions for entering a specific date such as November 8, 2019. I thought there was such a feature..— <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vchimpanzee" title="User:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#070">Vchimpanzee</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Vchimpanzee" title="User talk:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#F80"> talk</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee" title="Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#700">contributions</span></a> •  14:49, 14 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vchimpanzee|2019-08-14T14:49:00.000Z|Tools_for_history&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-08-14T18:01:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-08-14T14:49:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-14T14:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vchimpanzee&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<div role="note" style="margin: 1em;" class="resolved"><span style="border: 1px solid #aaa; background-color: #f9fcf9; margin-right: 0.5em; padding: 0.5em;"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Vchimpanzee|2019-08-14T17:55:00.000Z|Tools_for_history"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/20px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/40px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Resolved</span> </div><p>— <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vchimpanzee" title="User:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#070">Vchimpanzee</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Vchimpanzee" title="User talk:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#F80"> talk</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee" title="Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#700">contributions</span></a> •  17:55, 14 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vchimpanzee|2019-08-14T17:55:00.000Z|Tools_for_history&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-14T17:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vchimpanzee&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Vchimpanzee|2019-08-14T17:55:00.000Z|Tools_for_history"></span></p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Vchimpanzee|2019-08-14T14:49:00.000Z|Tools_for_history"></span>I didn't get a response <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help_talk:Page_history#How_can_I_see_Donald_Trump's_picture_from_when_he_was_elected_president?" title="Help talk:Page history">here</a> about why <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Page_history" title="Help:Page history">Help:Page history</a> didn't have directions for entering a specific date such as November 8, 2019. I thought there was such a feature..— <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vchimpanzee" title="User:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#070">Vchimpanzee</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Vchimpanzee" title="User talk:Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#F80"> talk</span></a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee" title="Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee"><span style="color:#700">contributions</span></a> •  14:49, 14 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vchimpanzee|2019-08-14T14:49:00.000Z|Tools_for_history&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-08-14T18:01:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-08-14T14:49:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-14T14:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vchimpanzee&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ammarpad|2019-08-14T18:01:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-08-14T14:49:00.000Z"></span>Once you click on the input field a placeholder text <span style="color:gray">YYYY-MM-DD</span> and calendar widget will appear (assuming Javascript is on). That's enough visual cue to tell you what you should do next. – <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ammarpad" title="User:Ammarpad">Ammarpad</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ammarpad" title="User talk:Ammarpad">talk</a>) 18:01, 14 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-08-14T18:01:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-08-14T14:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-14T18:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ammarpad&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ammarpad|2019-08-14T18:01:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-08-14T14:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ammarpad|2019-08-14T18:01:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-08-14T14:49:00.000Z"></span>Once you click on the input field a placeholder text <span style="color:gray">YYYY-MM-DD</span> and calendar widget will appear (assuming Javascript is on). That's enough visual cue to tell you what you should do next. – <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ammarpad" title="User:Ammarpad">Ammarpad</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ammarpad" title="User talk:Ammarpad">talk</a>) 18:01, 14 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ammarpad|2019-08-14T18:01:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-08-14T14:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-14T18:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ammarpad&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ammarpad|2019-08-14T18:01:00.000Z|Vchimpanzee|2019-08-14T14:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RoySmith|2019-08-14T16:57:00.000Z|Converting_from_one_citation_template_to_another_(visual_editor)?"></span>Is there an easy way to convert one citation template to the correct type, in VE?  People commonly just use the default {{Cite}} instead of, for example, {{Cite news}}.  I haven't found a good way to fix that up other than to create a whole new citation and delete the old one.  Which is especially annoying when it's used more than once, as <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/910813513" title="Special:Diff/910813513">in this example</a>.  It seems like it would be straight-forward to have a tool which took the existing citation and did a first pass at converting it into a different subtype, copying over whatever fields exist in both.  Does such a tool exist? -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> 16:57, 14 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-14T16:57:00.000Z|Converting_from_one_citation_template_to_another_(visual_editor)?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-15T03:34:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-14T16:57:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-14T16:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RoySmith&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RoySmith|2019-08-14T16:57:00.000Z|Converting_from_one_citation_template_to_another_(visual_editor)?"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RoySmith|2019-08-14T16:57:00.000Z|Converting_from_one_citation_template_to_another_(visual_editor)?"></span>Is there an easy way to convert one citation template to the correct type, in VE?  People commonly just use the default {{Cite}} instead of, for example, {{Cite news}}.  I haven't found a good way to fix that up other than to create a whole new citation and delete the old one.  Which is especially annoying when it's used more than once, as <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/910813513" title="Special:Diff/910813513">in this example</a>.  It seems like it would be straight-forward to have a tool which took the existing citation and did a first pass at converting it into a different subtype, copying over whatever fields exist in both.  Does such a tool exist? -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> 16:57, 14 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-14T16:57:00.000Z|Converting_from_one_citation_template_to_another_(visual_editor)?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-15T03:34:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-14T16:57:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-14T16:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RoySmith&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RoySmith|2019-08-14T16:57:00.000Z|Converting_from_one_citation_template_to_another_(visual_editor)?"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Izno|2019-08-15T03:34:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-14T16:57:00.000Z"></span>Pretty sure this is <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97936" class="extiw" title="phab:T97936">phab:T97936</a>, and a harder problem over here <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87271" class="extiw" title="phab:T87271">phab:T87271</a>. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 03:34, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-15T03:34:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-14T16:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-15T03:48:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-15T03:34:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T03:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Izno&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Izno|2019-08-15T03:34:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-14T16:57:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RoySmith|2019-08-15T03:48:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-15T03:34:00.000Z"></span>Yeah, T87271 is exactly what I'm talking about.  Thanks.  -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> 03:48, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-15T03:48:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-15T03:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T03:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RoySmith&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RoySmith|2019-08-15T03:48:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-15T03:34:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Izno|2019-08-15T03:34:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-14T16:57:00.000Z"></span>Pretty sure this is <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97936" class="extiw" title="phab:T97936">phab:T97936</a>, and a harder problem over here <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87271" class="extiw" title="phab:T87271">phab:T87271</a>. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 03:34, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-15T03:34:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-14T16:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-15T03:48:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-15T03:34:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T03:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Izno&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Izno|2019-08-15T03:34:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-14T16:57:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RoySmith|2019-08-15T03:48:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-15T03:34:00.000Z"></span>Yeah, T87271 is exactly what I'm talking about.  Thanks.  -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> 03:48, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-15T03:48:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-15T03:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T03:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RoySmith&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RoySmith|2019-08-15T03:48:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-15T03:34:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id="Account_creations_appear_to_be_getting_throttled_to_2.2Fday_for_editors"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Account_creations_appear_to_be_getting_throttled_to_2/day_for_editors" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Account_creations_appear_to_be_getting_throttled_to_2\/day_for_editors|2019-08-15T04:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-15T04:21:00.000Z|Account_creations_appear_to_be_getting_throttled_to_2\/day_for_editors&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Account_creations_appear_to_be_getting_throttled_to_2/day_for_editors|2019-08-15T04:21:00.000Z"></span>Account creations appear to be getting throttled to 2/day for editors<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Account_creations_appear_to_be_getting_throttled_to_2/day_for_editors|2019-08-15T04:21:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-15T04:21:00.000Z|Account_creations_appear_to_be_getting_throttled_to_2/day_for_editors"></span>Hello all, if you are running in to this, it appears to be a temporary issue.  Discussion and linked phab tickets are available at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_permissions#T230304_and_account_creation_being_blocked" title="Wikipedia talk:Requests for permissions">Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_permissions#T230304_and_account_creation_being_blocked</a> if you want to follow for more information as it becomes available. Best regards, — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 04:21, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-15T04:21:00.000Z|Account_creations_appear_to_be_getting_throttled_to_2\/day_for_editors&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T04:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-15T04:21:00.000Z|Account_creations_appear_to_be_getting_throttled_to_2/day_for_editors"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-15T04:21:00.000Z|Account_creations_appear_to_be_getting_throttled_to_2/day_for_editors"></span>Hello all, if you are running in to this, it appears to be a temporary issue.  Discussion and linked phab tickets are available at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_permissions#T230304_and_account_creation_being_blocked" title="Wikipedia talk:Requests for permissions">Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_permissions#T230304_and_account_creation_being_blocked</a> if you want to follow for more information as it becomes available. Best regards, — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 04:21, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-15T04:21:00.000Z|Account_creations_appear_to_be_getting_throttled_to_2\/day_for_editors&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T04:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-15T04:21:00.000Z|Account_creations_appear_to_be_getting_throttled_to_2/day_for_editors"></span>
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 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="RefToolbar" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|RefToolbar|2019-08-15T10:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Cnbrb|2019-08-15T10:07:00.000Z|RefToolbar&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|RefToolbar|2019-08-15T10:07:00.000Z"></span>RefToolbar<span data-mw-comment-end="h|RefToolbar|2019-08-15T10:07:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Cnbrb|2019-08-15T10:07:00.000Z|RefToolbar"></span>Hi - I find the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:RefToolbar" title="Wikipedia:RefToolbar">RefToolbar</a> very useful, but I would like to request an additional feature. In the Web Citation popover, can we please have a checkbox (or a select menu) to specify <b>deadurl=yes/no</b>? I can fill in Archive URL and Archive Date in the form, but after I have inserted the reference into the article,  I have to go in and type the "deadurl" bit manually, which is a bit fiddly. Does anyone know how to get someone to add this? Thanks. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cnbrb" title="User:Cnbrb">Cnbrb</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cnbrb" title="User talk:Cnbrb">talk</a>) 10:07, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Cnbrb|2019-08-15T10:07:00.000Z|RefToolbar&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T10:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Cnbrb&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Cnbrb|2019-08-15T10:07:00.000Z|RefToolbar"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Cnbrb|2019-08-15T10:07:00.000Z|RefToolbar"></span>Hi - I find the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:RefToolbar" title="Wikipedia:RefToolbar">RefToolbar</a> very useful, but I would like to request an additional feature. In the Web Citation popover, can we please have a checkbox (or a select menu) to specify <b>deadurl=yes/no</b>? I can fill in Archive URL and Archive Date in the form, but after I have inserted the reference into the article,  I have to go in and type the "deadurl" bit manually, which is a bit fiddly. Does anyone know how to get someone to add this? Thanks. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cnbrb" title="User:Cnbrb">Cnbrb</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cnbrb" title="User talk:Cnbrb">talk</a>) 10:07, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Cnbrb|2019-08-15T10:07:00.000Z|RefToolbar&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T10:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Cnbrb&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Cnbrb|2019-08-15T10:07:00.000Z|RefToolbar"></span>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-12T18:59:00.000Z|Unexpectedly_different_behavior_depending_on_location_of_userscript's_source_cod"></span>After extensive testing, I have documented a weird behavior that in rare circumstances will disable <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Show_button" title="Template:Show button">Template:Show button</a>.  There appears to be three conditions required for this to happen, and one of these conditions is just having the snippet of code in my common.cs file, as opposed to being in one of my subpages and imported to my common.js.   Intuitively, I would expect identical behavior, but this is not the case.   Details, and the discussion, can be found at the javascript project talk page in thread <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_JavaScript#Importscript_vs_just_putting_code_in_common.js" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject JavaScript">Importscript vs just putting code in common.js</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:NewsAndEventsGuy" title="User:NewsAndEventsGuy">NewsAndEventsGuy</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NewsAndEventsGuy" title="User talk:NewsAndEventsGuy">talk</a>) 18:59, 12 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-12T18:59:00.000Z|Unexpectedly_different_behavior_depending_on_location_of_userscript's_source_cod&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ruslik0|2019-08-13T09:09:00.000Z|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-12T18:59:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-12T18:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;NewsAndEventsGuy&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-12T18:59:00.000Z|Unexpectedly_different_behavior_depending_on_location_of_userscript's_source_cod"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-12T18:59:00.000Z|Unexpectedly_different_behavior_depending_on_location_of_userscript's_source_cod"></span>After extensive testing, I have documented a weird behavior that in rare circumstances will disable <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Show_button" title="Template:Show button">Template:Show button</a>.  There appears to be three conditions required for this to happen, and one of these conditions is just having the snippet of code in my common.cs file, as opposed to being in one of my subpages and imported to my common.js.   Intuitively, I would expect identical behavior, but this is not the case.   Details, and the discussion, can be found at the javascript project talk page in thread <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_JavaScript#Importscript_vs_just_putting_code_in_common.js" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject JavaScript">Importscript vs just putting code in common.js</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:NewsAndEventsGuy" title="User:NewsAndEventsGuy">NewsAndEventsGuy</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NewsAndEventsGuy" title="User talk:NewsAndEventsGuy">talk</a>) 18:59, 12 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-12T18:59:00.000Z|Unexpectedly_different_behavior_depending_on_location_of_userscript's_source_cod&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ruslik0|2019-08-13T09:09:00.000Z|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-12T18:59:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-12T18:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;NewsAndEventsGuy&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-12T18:59:00.000Z|Unexpectedly_different_behavior_depending_on_location_of_userscript's_source_cod"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ruslik0|2019-08-13T09:09:00.000Z|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-12T18:59:00.000Z"></span>Javascript is loaded and executed in different order in this two cases. What is imported with importScript is executed probably in the end. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ruslik0" title="User:Ruslik0">Ruslik</a>_<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ruslik0" title="User talk:Ruslik0"><span style="color:red">Zero</span></a> 09:09, 13 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ruslik0|2019-08-13T09:09:00.000Z|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-12T18:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-13T10:42:00.000Z|Ruslik0|2019-08-13T09:09:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-13T09:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ruslik0&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ruslik0|2019-08-13T09:09:00.000Z|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-12T18:59:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-13T10:42:00.000Z|Ruslik0|2019-08-13T09:09:00.000Z"></span>thanks for the debugging lead.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:NewsAndEventsGuy" title="User:NewsAndEventsGuy">NewsAndEventsGuy</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NewsAndEventsGuy" title="User talk:NewsAndEventsGuy">talk</a>) 10:42, 13 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-13T10:42:00.000Z|Ruslik0|2019-08-13T09:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|QEDK|2019-08-15T07:24:00.000Z|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-13T10:42:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-13T10:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;NewsAndEventsGuy&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-13T10:42:00.000Z|Ruslik0|2019-08-13T09:09:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-08-15T07:24:00.000Z|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-13T10:42:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:NewsAndEventsGuy" title="User:NewsAndEventsGuy">NewsAndEventsGuy</a>:</span> This might not be the answer you were looking for but we had a thread a few months back where an editor was asking about how to make scripts load in order and the general sentiment was that you can't <i>guarantee</i> behaviour in that manner. So, the only way would be to add manual sleeps and hope (!) that did the trick. Don't know why it could exactly apply here but I just thought I'd mention. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK">qedk</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK">t</a> <span style="color:#fac">桜</span> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK">c</a>)</span> 07:24, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-08-15T07:24:00.000Z|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-13T10:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-15T11:10:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-08-15T07:24:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T07:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-08-15T07:24:00.000Z|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-13T10:42:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-15T11:10:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-08-15T07:24:00.000Z"></span>I like thinkers who cast wide nets when these mysteries pop up, thanks. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:NewsAndEventsGuy" title="User:NewsAndEventsGuy">NewsAndEventsGuy</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NewsAndEventsGuy" title="User talk:NewsAndEventsGuy">talk</a>) 11:10, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-15T11:10:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-08-15T07:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T11:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;NewsAndEventsGuy&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-15T11:10:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-08-15T07:24:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ruslik0|2019-08-13T09:09:00.000Z|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-12T18:59:00.000Z"></span>Javascript is loaded and executed in different order in this two cases. What is imported with importScript is executed probably in the end. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ruslik0" title="User:Ruslik0">Ruslik</a>_<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ruslik0" title="User talk:Ruslik0"><span style="color:red">Zero</span></a> 09:09, 13 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ruslik0|2019-08-13T09:09:00.000Z|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-12T18:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-13T10:42:00.000Z|Ruslik0|2019-08-13T09:09:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-13T09:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ruslik0&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ruslik0|2019-08-13T09:09:00.000Z|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-12T18:59:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-13T10:42:00.000Z|Ruslik0|2019-08-13T09:09:00.000Z"></span>thanks for the debugging lead.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:NewsAndEventsGuy" title="User:NewsAndEventsGuy">NewsAndEventsGuy</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NewsAndEventsGuy" title="User talk:NewsAndEventsGuy">talk</a>) 10:42, 13 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-13T10:42:00.000Z|Ruslik0|2019-08-13T09:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|QEDK|2019-08-15T07:24:00.000Z|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-13T10:42:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-13T10:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;NewsAndEventsGuy&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-13T10:42:00.000Z|Ruslik0|2019-08-13T09:09:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-08-15T07:24:00.000Z|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-13T10:42:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:NewsAndEventsGuy" title="User:NewsAndEventsGuy">NewsAndEventsGuy</a>:</span> This might not be the answer you were looking for but we had a thread a few months back where an editor was asking about how to make scripts load in order and the general sentiment was that you can't <i>guarantee</i> behaviour in that manner. So, the only way would be to add manual sleeps and hope (!) that did the trick. Don't know why it could exactly apply here but I just thought I'd mention. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK">qedk</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK">t</a> <span style="color:#fac">桜</span> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK">c</a>)</span> 07:24, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-08-15T07:24:00.000Z|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-13T10:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-15T11:10:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-08-15T07:24:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T07:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-08-15T07:24:00.000Z|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-13T10:42:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-15T11:10:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-08-15T07:24:00.000Z"></span>I like thinkers who cast wide nets when these mysteries pop up, thanks. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:NewsAndEventsGuy" title="User:NewsAndEventsGuy">NewsAndEventsGuy</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NewsAndEventsGuy" title="User talk:NewsAndEventsGuy">talk</a>) 11:10, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-15T11:10:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-08-15T07:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T11:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;NewsAndEventsGuy&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-15T11:10:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-08-15T07:24:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-08-15T14:56:00.000Z|Template:OS_coord"></span>As some of you may be aware, <code>{{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:OS_coord" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:OS coord">OS coord</a>}}</code> (and related templates) has been out to lunch since about April. It's maintained by <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RHaworth" title="User:RHaworth">RHaworth</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RHaworth" title="User talk:RHaworth">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/RHaworth" title="Special:Contributions/RHaworth">contribs</a>), who has posted an appeal at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:OS_coord#Getting_back_up_2019" class="mw-redirect" title="Template talk:OS coord">Template talk:OS coord#Getting back up 2019</a>. All suggestions welcome there. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 14:56, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-08-15T14:56:00.000Z|Template:OS_coord&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T14:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-08-15T14:56:00.000Z|Template:OS_coord"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Redrose64|2019-08-15T14:56:00.000Z|Template:OS_coord"></span>As some of you may be aware, <code>{{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:OS_coord" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:OS coord">OS coord</a>}}</code> (and related templates) has been out to lunch since about April. It's maintained by <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RHaworth" title="User:RHaworth">RHaworth</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RHaworth" title="User talk:RHaworth">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/RHaworth" title="Special:Contributions/RHaworth">contribs</a>), who has posted an appeal at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:OS_coord#Getting_back_up_2019" class="mw-redirect" title="Template talk:OS coord">Template talk:OS coord#Getting back up 2019</a>. All suggestions welcome there. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) 14:56, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Redrose64|2019-08-15T14:56:00.000Z|Template:OS_coord&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T14:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Redrose64&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Redrose64|2019-08-15T14:56:00.000Z|Template:OS_coord"></span>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|213.133.84.227|2019-08-15T18:29:00.000Z|Flag_of_Greece"></span>Have you noticed that Greece's flag is not appearing? See for example <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019%E2%80%9320_UEFA_Champions_League" title="2019–20 UEFA Champions League">2019–20 UEFA Champions League</a>. Also see <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Country_data_Greece" title="Template:Country data Greece">Template:Country data Greece</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/213.133.84.227" title="Special:Contributions/213.133.84.227">213.133.84.227</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:213.133.84.227&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:213.133.84.227 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 18:29, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|213.133.84.227|2019-08-15T18:29:00.000Z|Flag_of_Greece&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-15T18:39:00.000Z|213.133.84.227|2019-08-15T18:29:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T18:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;213.133.84.227&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|213.133.84.227|2019-08-15T18:29:00.000Z|Flag_of_Greece"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|213.133.84.227|2019-08-15T18:29:00.000Z|Flag_of_Greece"></span>Have you noticed that Greece's flag is not appearing? See for example <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019%E2%80%9320_UEFA_Champions_League" title="2019–20 UEFA Champions League">2019–20 UEFA Champions League</a>. Also see <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Country_data_Greece" title="Template:Country data Greece">Template:Country data Greece</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/213.133.84.227" title="Special:Contributions/213.133.84.227">213.133.84.227</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:213.133.84.227&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:213.133.84.227 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 18:29, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|213.133.84.227|2019-08-15T18:29:00.000Z|Flag_of_Greece&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-15T18:39:00.000Z|213.133.84.227|2019-08-15T18:29:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T18:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;213.133.84.227&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|213.133.84.227|2019-08-15T18:29:00.000Z|Flag_of_Greece"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-15T18:39:00.000Z|213.133.84.227|2019-08-15T18:29:00.000Z"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Pictogram_voting_support.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_support.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Pictogram_voting_support.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_support.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Pictogram_voting_support.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_support.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="249" data-file-height="249"/> <b>Works for me</b> is it only in a certain browser you see this problem? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 18:39, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-15T18:39:00.000Z|213.133.84.227|2019-08-15T18:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T18:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-15T18:39:00.000Z|213.133.84.227|2019-08-15T18:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|213.133.84.227|2019-08-15T18:45:00.000Z|Flag_of_Greece"></span>Only with Google chrome I have the problem. I have just checked it with Firefox and is ok. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/213.133.84.227" title="Special:Contributions/213.133.84.227">213.133.84.227</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:213.133.84.227&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:213.133.84.227 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 18:45, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|213.133.84.227|2019-08-15T18:45:00.000Z|Flag_of_Greece&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Golbez|2019-08-15T18:58:00.000Z|213.133.84.227|2019-08-15T18:45:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T18:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;213.133.84.227&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|213.133.84.227|2019-08-15T18:45:00.000Z|Flag_of_Greece"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-15T18:39:00.000Z|213.133.84.227|2019-08-15T18:29:00.000Z"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Pictogram_voting_support.svg/18px-Pictogram_voting_support.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Pictogram_voting_support.svg/27px-Pictogram_voting_support.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Pictogram_voting_support.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_support.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="249" data-file-height="249"/> <b>Works for me</b> is it only in a certain browser you see this problem? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 18:39, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-15T18:39:00.000Z|213.133.84.227|2019-08-15T18:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T18:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-15T18:39:00.000Z|213.133.84.227|2019-08-15T18:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|213.133.84.227|2019-08-15T18:45:00.000Z|Flag_of_Greece"></span>Only with Google chrome I have the problem. I have just checked it with Firefox and is ok. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/213.133.84.227" title="Special:Contributions/213.133.84.227">213.133.84.227</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:213.133.84.227&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:213.133.84.227 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 18:45, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|213.133.84.227|2019-08-15T18:45:00.000Z|Flag_of_Greece&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Golbez|2019-08-15T18:58:00.000Z|213.133.84.227|2019-08-15T18:45:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T18:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;213.133.84.227&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|213.133.84.227|2019-08-15T18:45:00.000Z|Flag_of_Greece"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Golbez|2019-08-15T18:58:00.000Z|213.133.84.227|2019-08-15T18:45:00.000Z"></span>My Chrome's fine; try clearing cache? --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Golbez" title="User:Golbez">Golbez</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Golbez" title="User talk:Golbez">talk</a>) 18:58, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Golbez|2019-08-15T18:58:00.000Z|213.133.84.227|2019-08-15T18:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|GreenC|2019-08-15T19:00:00.000Z|Golbez|2019-08-15T18:58:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T18:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Golbez&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Golbez|2019-08-15T18:58:00.000Z|213.133.84.227|2019-08-15T18:45:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|GreenC|2019-08-15T19:00:00.000Z|Golbez|2019-08-15T18:58:00.000Z"></span>If it's bad cache some on <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Greece.svg">this page</a> will work and others not. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GreenC" title="User:GreenC"><span style="color: #006A4E;"><b>Green</b></span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC" title="User talk:GreenC"><span style="color: #093;"><b>C</b></span></a> 19:00, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GreenC|2019-08-15T19:00:00.000Z|Golbez|2019-08-15T18:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T19:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GreenC&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GreenC|2019-08-15T19:00:00.000Z|Golbez|2019-08-15T18:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Golbez|2019-08-15T18:58:00.000Z|213.133.84.227|2019-08-15T18:45:00.000Z"></span>My Chrome's fine; try clearing cache? --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Golbez" title="User:Golbez">Golbez</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Golbez" title="User talk:Golbez">talk</a>) 18:58, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Golbez|2019-08-15T18:58:00.000Z|213.133.84.227|2019-08-15T18:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|GreenC|2019-08-15T19:00:00.000Z|Golbez|2019-08-15T18:58:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T18:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Golbez&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Golbez|2019-08-15T18:58:00.000Z|213.133.84.227|2019-08-15T18:45:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|GreenC|2019-08-15T19:00:00.000Z|Golbez|2019-08-15T18:58:00.000Z"></span>If it's bad cache some on <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Greece.svg">this page</a> will work and others not. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GreenC" title="User:GreenC"><span style="color: #006A4E;"><b>Green</b></span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GreenC" title="User talk:GreenC"><span style="color: #093;"><b>C</b></span></a> 19:00, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GreenC|2019-08-15T19:00:00.000Z|Golbez|2019-08-15T18:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T19:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GreenC&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GreenC|2019-08-15T19:00:00.000Z|Golbez|2019-08-15T18:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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-<div class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style="">Editors are generally in support of an interactive PGN viewer. Discussion on the specific implementation can be found at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Interface_administrators%27_noticeboard#Chess_viewer" title="Wikipedia:Interface administrators' noticeboard">Wikipedia:Interface administrators' noticeboard#Chess viewer</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wugapodes" title="User:Wugapodes">Wug·</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Wugapodes" title="User talk:Wugapodes">a·po·des</a>​ 22:44, 27 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Wugapodes|2019-08-27T22:44:00.000Z|Enable_chess_PGN_viewer_for_chess_articles&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-27T22:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Wugapodes&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Wugapodes|2019-08-27T22:44:00.000Z|Enable_chess_PGN_viewer_for_chess_articles"></span></div>
+<div class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style="">Editors are generally in support of an interactive PGN viewer. Discussion on the specific implementation can be found at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Interface_administrators%27_noticeboard#Chess_viewer" title="Wikipedia:Interface administrators' noticeboard">Wikipedia:Interface administrators' noticeboard#Chess viewer</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wugapodes" title="User:Wugapodes">Wug·</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Wugapodes" title="User talk:Wugapodes">a·po·des</a>​ 22:44, 27 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Wugapodes|2019-08-27T22:44:00.000Z|Enable_chess_PGN_viewer_for_chess_articles&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-27T22:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Wugapodes&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Wugapodes|2019-08-27T22:44:00.000Z|Enable_chess_PGN_viewer_for_chess_articles"></span></div>
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-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Wugapodes|2019-07-30T05:28:00.000Z|PGN_viewer_discussion"></span>Support as proposer. This has been around a while and seems stable enough for use on hewiki. Use on an additional Wikipedia will also help development, as previous proposals seem to have led to good feedback that קיפודנחש has taken into account to improve it on hewiki. Having a PGN viewer would greatly improve our chess coverage as readers can use the viewer to follow along with the game as the article describes it without having to know <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algebraic_notation_(chess)" title="Algebraic notation (chess)">algebraic notation (chess)</a> or have their own chess board or program. Some comments from around 2013 suggested it be turned into a gadget, but <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Chess/PGN_Chess_Viewer" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Chess/PGN Chess Viewer">those efforts</a> have been stalled since 2013. Plus, making it a gadget only allows logged in readers to use the PGN viewer despite it being broadly useful for reading rather than editing. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wugapodes" title="User:Wugapodes">Wug·</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Wugapodes" title="User talk:Wugapodes">a·po·des</a>​ 05:28, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Wugapodes|2019-07-30T05:28:00.000Z|PGN_viewer_discussion&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T05:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Wugapodes&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Wugapodes|2019-07-30T05:28:00.000Z|PGN_viewer_discussion"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Galobtter|2019-07-30T06:00:00.000Z|PGN_viewer_discussion"></span>This definitely should not be in common.js - rather the proposal should be for addition as a default gadget (for reasons as mentioned in the comment at the top of <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js" title="MediaWiki:Common.js">MediaWiki:Common.js</a>), which can be used by any user whether logged-in or logged-out. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Galobtter" title="User:Galobtter">Galobtter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Galobtter" title="User talk:Galobtter">pingó mió</a>) 06:00, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Galobtter|2019-07-30T06:00:00.000Z|PGN_viewer_discussion&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Wugapodes|2019-07-30T06:07:00.000Z|Galobtter|2019-07-30T06:00:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T06:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Galobtter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Galobtter|2019-07-30T06:00:00.000Z|PGN_viewer_discussion"></span>
-<ul><li><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Wugapodes|2019-07-30T06:07:00.000Z|Galobtter|2019-07-30T06:00:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Galobtter" title="User:Galobtter">Galobtter</a>:</span> Are gadgets coded differently or is it just a matter of where the code is called from? I'm not dead set on common.js, it was just the only way I knew to implement it. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wugapodes" title="User:Wugapodes">Wug·</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Wugapodes" title="User talk:Wugapodes">a·po·des</a>​ 06:07, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Wugapodes|2019-07-30T06:07:00.000Z|Galobtter|2019-07-30T06:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Galobtter|2019-07-30T06:10:00.000Z|Wugapodes|2019-07-30T06:07:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T06:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Wugapodes&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<ul><li><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wugapodes" title="User:Wugapodes"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Galobtter|2019-07-30T06:10:00.000Z|Wugapodes|2019-07-30T06:07:00.000Z"></span>Wugapodes</a>, no, gadgets are coded the same, just a different (and better) method of loading the script. Basically instead of copying to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js/pgn.js" title="MediaWiki:Common.js/pgn.js">MediaWiki:common.js/pgn.js</a>, copy to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Gadget-pgn.js&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="MediaWiki:Gadget-pgn.js (page does not exist)">MediaWiki:Gadget-pgn.js</a> and edit <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition" title="MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition">MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition</a> to load the gadget. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Galobtter" title="User:Galobtter">Galobtter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Galobtter" title="User talk:Galobtter">pingó mió</a>) 06:10, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Galobtter|2019-07-30T06:10:00.000Z|Wugapodes|2019-07-30T06:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Wugapodes|2019-07-30T06:20:00.000Z|Galobtter|2019-07-30T06:10:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T06:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Galobtter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Galobtter|2019-07-30T06:10:00.000Z|Wugapodes|2019-07-30T06:07:00.000Z"></span>
-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Wugapodes|2019-07-30T06:20:00.000Z|Galobtter|2019-07-30T06:10:00.000Z"></span>Thanks, I've updated the proposed implementation and section title. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wugapodes" title="User:Wugapodes">Wug·</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Wugapodes" title="User talk:Wugapodes">a·po·des</a>​ 06:20, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Wugapodes|2019-07-30T06:20:00.000Z|Galobtter|2019-07-30T06:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T06:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Wugapodes&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Wugapodes|2019-07-30T06:20:00.000Z|Galobtter|2019-07-30T06:10:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Wugapodes|2019-07-30T06:07:00.000Z|Galobtter|2019-07-30T06:00:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T13:29:00.000Z|PGN_viewer_discussion"></span>So this is in use now in hewiki, ruwiki, and ukwiki (the latter has the script and template, but it's used only in few articles). All 3 are using "on demand" loading. The script itsslf weighs 27k (20 minimized), and loading it unconditionally is undesired, as only small fraction of sll articles are chess related. The mechanism on hewiki is to create a "hidden", non-default gadget, and have common.js look for a "marker" class in page, triggering loading the gadget. (i will try to add some information WRT "on-demand", or "template-controlled" loading of scripts on ruwiki and hewiki later). peace - <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%93%D7%A0%D7%97%D7%A9" title="User:קיפודנחש">קיפודנחש (aka kipod)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%93%D7%A0%D7%97%D7%A9" title="User talk:קיפודנחש">talk</a>) 13:29, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T13:29:00.000Z|PGN_viewer_discussion&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T13:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T13:29:00.000Z|PGN_viewer_discussion"></span>
-</p><p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z|PGN_viewer_discussion"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wugapodes" title="User:Wugapodes">Wugapodes</a>:</span> i read this thread on mobile, and missed an important detail: the script on hewiki _is not_ <a href="https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%9E%D7%93%D7%99%D7%94_%D7%95%D7%99%D7%A7%D7%99:Common.js/pgn.js" class="extiw" title="he:מדיה ויקי:Common.js/pgn.js">w:he:מדיה_ויקי:Common.js/pgn.js</a>. this one is an outdated version that should not be used. the script is in <a href="https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediawiki:Gadget-pgnviewer.js" class="extiw" title="he:Mediawiki:Gadget-pgnviewer.js">he:Mediawiki:Gadget-pgnviewer.js</a> and its CSS, <a href="https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediawiki:Gadget-pgnviewer.css" class="extiw" title="he:Mediawiki:Gadget-pgnviewer.css">he:Mediawiki:Gadget-pgnviewer.css</a>. this is important: <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Krinkels" title="User:Krinkels">User:Krinkels</a> made some instructive comments in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Chess/Interactive_chess_boards" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Chess/Interactive chess boards">Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Chess/Interactive chess boards</a>, and the correct version addresses many (most?) of the points he raised. peace - <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%93%D7%A0%D7%97%D7%A9" title="User:קיפודנחש">קיפודנחש (aka kipod)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%93%D7%A0%D7%97%D7%A9" title="User talk:קיפודנחש">talk</a>) 14:50, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z|PGN_viewer_discussion&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ish ishwar|2019-07-30T17:33:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Rhododendrites|2019-07-30T18:42:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Izno|2019-07-31T21:51:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Smallbones|2019-08-01T13:33:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Isaacl|2019-08-01T17:52:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Levivich|2019-08-02T06:10:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Bilorv|2019-08-02T06:59:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Ched|2019-08-04T00:03:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Pichpich|2019-08-04T20:34:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Dolotta|2019-08-07T22:39:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Stifle|2019-08-08T09:51:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|28bytes|2019-08-09T04:53:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|JFG|2019-08-12T10:27:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|LukeSurl|2019-08-13T13:48:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Vulphere|2019-08-13T15:54:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Power~enwiki|2019-08-14T17:46:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Esquivalience|2019-08-16T04:59:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z|PGN_viewer_discussion"></span>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Wugapodes|2019-07-30T05:28:00.000Z|PGN_viewer_discussion"></span>Support as proposer. This has been around a while and seems stable enough for use on hewiki. Use on an additional Wikipedia will also help development, as previous proposals seem to have led to good feedback that קיפודנחש has taken into account to improve it on hewiki. Having a PGN viewer would greatly improve our chess coverage as readers can use the viewer to follow along with the game as the article describes it without having to know <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algebraic_notation_(chess)" title="Algebraic notation (chess)">algebraic notation (chess)</a> or have their own chess board or program. Some comments from around 2013 suggested it be turned into a gadget, but <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Chess/PGN_Chess_Viewer" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Chess/PGN Chess Viewer">those efforts</a> have been stalled since 2013. Plus, making it a gadget only allows logged in readers to use the PGN viewer despite it being broadly useful for reading rather than editing. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wugapodes" title="User:Wugapodes">Wug·</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Wugapodes" title="User talk:Wugapodes">a·po·des</a>​ 05:28, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Wugapodes|2019-07-30T05:28:00.000Z|PGN_viewer_discussion&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T05:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Wugapodes&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Wugapodes|2019-07-30T05:28:00.000Z|PGN_viewer_discussion"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Galobtter|2019-07-30T06:00:00.000Z|PGN_viewer_discussion"></span>This definitely should not be in common.js - rather the proposal should be for addition as a default gadget (for reasons as mentioned in the comment at the top of <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js" title="MediaWiki:Common.js">MediaWiki:Common.js</a>), which can be used by any user whether logged-in or logged-out. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Galobtter" title="User:Galobtter">Galobtter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Galobtter" title="User talk:Galobtter">pingó mió</a>) 06:00, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Galobtter|2019-07-30T06:00:00.000Z|PGN_viewer_discussion&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Wugapodes|2019-07-30T06:07:00.000Z|Galobtter|2019-07-30T06:00:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T06:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Galobtter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Galobtter|2019-07-30T06:00:00.000Z|PGN_viewer_discussion"></span>
+<ul><li><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Wugapodes|2019-07-30T06:07:00.000Z|Galobtter|2019-07-30T06:00:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Galobtter" title="User:Galobtter">Galobtter</a>:</span> Are gadgets coded differently or is it just a matter of where the code is called from? I'm not dead set on common.js, it was just the only way I knew to implement it. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wugapodes" title="User:Wugapodes">Wug·</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Wugapodes" title="User talk:Wugapodes">a·po·des</a>​ 06:07, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Wugapodes|2019-07-30T06:07:00.000Z|Galobtter|2019-07-30T06:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Galobtter|2019-07-30T06:10:00.000Z|Wugapodes|2019-07-30T06:07:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T06:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Wugapodes&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<ul><li><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wugapodes" title="User:Wugapodes"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Galobtter|2019-07-30T06:10:00.000Z|Wugapodes|2019-07-30T06:07:00.000Z"></span>Wugapodes</a>, no, gadgets are coded the same, just a different (and better) method of loading the script. Basically instead of copying to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js/pgn.js" title="MediaWiki:Common.js/pgn.js">MediaWiki:common.js/pgn.js</a>, copy to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Gadget-pgn.js&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="MediaWiki:Gadget-pgn.js (page does not exist)">MediaWiki:Gadget-pgn.js</a> and edit <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition" title="MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition">MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition</a> to load the gadget. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Galobtter" title="User:Galobtter">Galobtter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Galobtter" title="User talk:Galobtter">pingó mió</a>) 06:10, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Galobtter|2019-07-30T06:10:00.000Z|Wugapodes|2019-07-30T06:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Wugapodes|2019-07-30T06:20:00.000Z|Galobtter|2019-07-30T06:10:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T06:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Galobtter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Galobtter|2019-07-30T06:10:00.000Z|Wugapodes|2019-07-30T06:07:00.000Z"></span>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Wugapodes|2019-07-30T06:20:00.000Z|Galobtter|2019-07-30T06:10:00.000Z"></span>Thanks, I've updated the proposed implementation and section title. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wugapodes" title="User:Wugapodes">Wug·</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Wugapodes" title="User talk:Wugapodes">a·po·des</a>​ 06:20, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Wugapodes|2019-07-30T06:20:00.000Z|Galobtter|2019-07-30T06:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T06:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Wugapodes&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Wugapodes|2019-07-30T06:20:00.000Z|Galobtter|2019-07-30T06:10:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Wugapodes|2019-07-30T06:07:00.000Z|Galobtter|2019-07-30T06:00:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T13:29:00.000Z|PGN_viewer_discussion"></span>So this is in use now in hewiki, ruwiki, and ukwiki (the latter has the script and template, but it's used only in few articles). All 3 are using "on demand" loading. The script itsslf weighs 27k (20 minimized), and loading it unconditionally is undesired, as only small fraction of sll articles are chess related. The mechanism on hewiki is to create a "hidden", non-default gadget, and have common.js look for a "marker" class in page, triggering loading the gadget. (i will try to add some information WRT "on-demand", or "template-controlled" loading of scripts on ruwiki and hewiki later). peace - <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%93%D7%A0%D7%97%D7%A9" title="User:קיפודנחש">קיפודנחש (aka kipod)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%93%D7%A0%D7%97%D7%A9" title="User talk:קיפודנחש">talk</a>) 13:29, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T13:29:00.000Z|PGN_viewer_discussion&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T13:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T13:29:00.000Z|PGN_viewer_discussion"></span>
+</p><p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z|PGN_viewer_discussion"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wugapodes" title="User:Wugapodes">Wugapodes</a>:</span> i read this thread on mobile, and missed an important detail: the script on hewiki _is not_ <a href="https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%9E%D7%93%D7%99%D7%94_%D7%95%D7%99%D7%A7%D7%99:Common.js/pgn.js" class="extiw" title="he:מדיה ויקי:Common.js/pgn.js">w:he:מדיה_ויקי:Common.js/pgn.js</a>. this one is an outdated version that should not be used. the script is in <a href="https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediawiki:Gadget-pgnviewer.js" class="extiw" title="he:Mediawiki:Gadget-pgnviewer.js">he:Mediawiki:Gadget-pgnviewer.js</a> and its CSS, <a href="https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediawiki:Gadget-pgnviewer.css" class="extiw" title="he:Mediawiki:Gadget-pgnviewer.css">he:Mediawiki:Gadget-pgnviewer.css</a>. this is important: <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Krinkels" title="User:Krinkels">User:Krinkels</a> made some instructive comments in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Chess/Interactive_chess_boards" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Chess/Interactive chess boards">Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Chess/Interactive chess boards</a>, and the correct version addresses many (most?) of the points he raised. peace - <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%93%D7%A0%D7%97%D7%A9" title="User:קיפודנחש">קיפודנחש (aka kipod)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%93%D7%A0%D7%97%D7%A9" title="User talk:קיפודנחש">talk</a>) 14:50, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z|PGN_viewer_discussion&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ish ishwar|2019-07-30T17:33:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Rhododendrites|2019-07-30T18:42:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Izno|2019-07-31T21:51:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Smallbones|2019-08-01T13:33:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Isaacl|2019-08-01T17:52:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Levivich|2019-08-02T06:10:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Bilorv|2019-08-02T06:59:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Ched|2019-08-04T00:03:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Pichpich|2019-08-04T20:34:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Dolotta|2019-08-07T22:39:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Stifle|2019-08-08T09:51:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|28bytes|2019-08-09T04:53:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|JFG|2019-08-12T10:27:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|LukeSurl|2019-08-13T13:48:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Vulphere|2019-08-13T15:54:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Power~enwiki|2019-08-14T17:46:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Esquivalience|2019-08-16T04:59:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z|PGN_viewer_discussion"></span>
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-<ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ish ishwar|2019-07-30T17:33:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span>yes.</b> Please implement it. I want to study it so that I can convert it into a shogi version (although i'll probably need help for getting the dropped pieces part). – <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a>  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar" title="User talk:Ish ishwar"><small>(speak)</small></a> 17:33, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ish ishwar|2019-07-30T17:33:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T19:25:00.000Z|Ish ishwar|2019-07-30T17:33:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T17:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ish ishwar&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ish ishwar|2019-07-30T17:33:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T19:25:00.000Z|Ish ishwar|2019-07-30T17:33:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">Ish ishwar</a>:</span> you really don't need it "implemented" on enwiki in order to study it. the script is available in the link above - please read the "license" notice at the top: it is more permissive than cc-by-sa. basically, it says "you can do whatever you want with this". however, the main piece there is the "pgn analyzer". i am not aware of PGN standard for shogi. i saw "PSN" mentioned, but could not find good reference explaining it. if it's similar enough to PGN, it might not be that difficult. peace - <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%93%D7%A0%D7%97%D7%A9" title="User:קיפודנחש">קיפודנחש (aka kipod)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%93%D7%A0%D7%97%D7%A9" title="User talk:קיפודנחש">talk</a>) 19:25, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T19:25:00.000Z|Ish ishwar|2019-07-30T17:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T19:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T19:25:00.000Z|Ish ishwar|2019-07-30T17:33:00.000Z"></span>
+<ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ish ishwar|2019-07-30T17:33:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span>yes.</b> Please implement it. I want to study it so that I can convert it into a shogi version (although i'll probably need help for getting the dropped pieces part). – <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a>  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar" title="User talk:Ish ishwar"><small>(speak)</small></a> 17:33, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ish ishwar|2019-07-30T17:33:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T19:25:00.000Z|Ish ishwar|2019-07-30T17:33:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T17:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ish ishwar&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ish ishwar|2019-07-30T17:33:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T19:25:00.000Z|Ish ishwar|2019-07-30T17:33:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">Ish ishwar</a>:</span> you really don't need it "implemented" on enwiki in order to study it. the script is available in the link above - please read the "license" notice at the top: it is more permissive than cc-by-sa. basically, it says "you can do whatever you want with this". however, the main piece there is the "pgn analyzer". i am not aware of PGN standard for shogi. i saw "PSN" mentioned, but could not find good reference explaining it. if it's similar enough to PGN, it might not be that difficult. peace - <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%93%D7%A0%D7%97%D7%A9" title="User:קיפודנחש">קיפודנחש (aka kipod)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%93%D7%A0%D7%97%D7%A9" title="User talk:קיפודנחש">talk</a>) 19:25, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T19:25:00.000Z|Ish ishwar|2019-07-30T17:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T19:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T19:25:00.000Z|Ish ishwar|2019-07-30T17:33:00.000Z"></span>
 <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Rhododendrites|2019-07-30T18:42:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span>i see. Thank you. There is a PSN format. However, no one really uses it. (It was created by Europoean folks after all.) Probably the best is the CSA format. It looks like this:</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li></ul>
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-<ul><li><b>Support</b> for all the same reasons I supported several of these past proposals, which have been generally uncontroversial but stopped short of implementation. — <samp><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rhododendrites" title="User:Rhododendrites"><span style="font-size:90%;letter-spacing:1px;text-shadow:0px -1px 0px Indigo;">Rhododendrites</span></a> <sup style="font-size:80%;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rhododendrites" title="User talk:Rhododendrites">talk</a></sup></samp> \\ 18:42, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Rhododendrites|2019-07-30T18:42:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T18:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Rhododendrites&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Rhododendrites|2019-07-30T18:42:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Izno|2019-07-31T21:51:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span>Oppose</b> for anything on by default unless and until this is supported by an extension, which can actually deliver the Javascript as needed. As for opt-in, sure, but it should not require any change to the wikitext as that would not be supported for most people. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 21:51, 31 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Izno|2019-07-31T21:51:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-31T21:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Izno&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Izno|2019-07-31T21:51:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Smallbones|2019-08-01T13:33:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span>Support</b> it just looks and works wonderfully on the Hebrew Wikipedia.  I don't know about any technical issues, but I'd even recommend just copying the Hebrew version (if that would work similarly to what works there) and make any needed technical changes as people can agree on them. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Smallbones" title="User:Smallbones">Smallbones</a><sub>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smallbones" title="User talk:Smallbones"><span style="color: #cc6600;">smalltalk</span></a>)</sub> 13:33, 1 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Smallbones|2019-08-01T13:33:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-01T13:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Smallbones&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Smallbones|2019-08-01T13:33:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Isaacl|2019-08-01T17:52:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span>I agree that using a template to trigger page-specific loading of scripts and gadgets is a reasonable way to implement on-demand loading of Javascript. As I prefer generic solutions to one-off solutions, I support introducing this mechanism and approving Kipod's PGN viewer gadget for on-demand loading. (This does not preclude anyone in future deciding to implement another PGN viewer gadget.) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Isaacl&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Isaacl (page does not exist)">isaacl</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Isaacl" title="User talk:Isaacl">talk</a>) 17:52, 1 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Isaacl|2019-08-01T17:52:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-01T17:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Isaacl&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Isaacl|2019-08-01T17:52:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Levivich|2019-08-02T06:10:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span>Yes</b> – an obvious improvement, nice interface, will be useful to readers. <span style="white-space:nowrap;">– <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Levivich" title="User:Levivich">Leviv</a><span style="display:inline-block;position:relative;transform:rotate(45deg);bottom:-.57em;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Levivich" title="User talk:Levivich">ich</a></span></span> 06:10, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Levivich|2019-08-02T06:10:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-02T06:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Levivich&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Levivich|2019-08-02T06:10:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bilorv|2019-08-02T06:59:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span>Strong support</b>: the lack of an interactive interface like this is the reason I'm often frustrated by Wikipedia chess articles and often visit other sites to find the information I'm looking for. We should have been using this PGN viewer years ago. — Bilorv (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bilorv" title="User:Bilorv">// W A K E U P //</a>) 06:59, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bilorv|2019-08-02T06:59:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-02T06:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bilorv&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bilorv|2019-08-02T06:59:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ched|2019-08-04T00:03:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span>Support</b> I'd like to be able to "<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WarGames" title="WarGames">play . a . game</a>" — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ched" title="User:Ched">Ched</a></b> : <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ched" title="User talk:Ched"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;background:#0000fa;"> ? </span></a></span></small>   —  00:03, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ched|2019-08-04T00:03:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T00:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ched&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ched|2019-08-04T00:03:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Pichpich|2019-08-04T20:34:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span>Support</b> Nice addition to our chess-related articles. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pichpich" title="User:Pichpich">Pichpich</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pichpich" title="User talk:Pichpich">talk</a>) 20:34, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pichpich|2019-08-04T20:34:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T20:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pichpich&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Pichpich|2019-08-04T20:34:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Dolotta|2019-08-07T22:39:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span>Strong Support</b> -- I know very little about the technical aspects of Wikipedia, but since it appears to be stable on another language of this encyclopedia of ours, I fully support implementing it. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dolotta" title="User:Dolotta">Dolotta</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dolotta" title="User talk:Dolotta">talk</a>) 22:39, 7 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Dolotta|2019-08-07T22:39:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-07T22:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Dolotta&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Dolotta|2019-08-07T22:39:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Stifle|2019-08-08T09:51:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span>Sounds good, seems harmless enough. <b>Support</b>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Stifle" title="User:Stifle">Stifle</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stifle" title="User talk:Stifle">talk</a>) 09:51, 8 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Stifle|2019-08-08T09:51:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-08T09:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Stifle&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Stifle|2019-08-08T09:51:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|28bytes|2019-08-09T04:53:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span>What a neat feature to have. I love the way it's implemented in <a href="https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%97%D7%A7_%D7%94%D7%90%D7%9C%D7%9E%D7%95%D7%95%D7%AA" class="extiw" title="he:משחק האלמוות">the he-wiki article</a>. <b>Support</b>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:28bytes" title="User:28bytes">28bytes</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:28bytes" title="User talk:28bytes">talk</a>) 04:53, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|28bytes|2019-08-09T04:53:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T04:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;28bytes&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|28bytes|2019-08-09T04:53:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JFG|2019-08-12T10:27:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span>Support</b> as an on-demand gadget which would load automatically on relevant pages. Great work, and very informative when studying a game. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JFG" title="User:JFG">JFG</a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JFG" title="User talk:JFG">talk</a></sup> 10:27, 12 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JFG|2019-08-12T10:27:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-12T10:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JFG&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JFG|2019-08-12T10:27:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|LukeSurl|2019-08-13T13:48:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span>Support</b> as per Dolotta. I can think of a few articles where this could be useful. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:LukeSurl" title="User:LukeSurl">LukeSurl</a><sup> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:LukeSurl" title="User talk:LukeSurl">t</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/LukeSurl" title="Special:Contributions/LukeSurl">c</a></sup> 13:48, 13 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|LukeSurl|2019-08-13T13:48:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-13T13:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;LukeSurl&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|LukeSurl|2019-08-13T13:48:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Vulphere|2019-08-13T15:54:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span>Support</b>.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vulphere" title="User:Vulphere"><span style="background:#000000; color:white; padding:2px;">Vulp</span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Vulphere" title="User talk:Vulphere"><span style="background:#DC143C; color:white; padding:2px;">here</span></a> 15:54, 13 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vulphere|2019-08-13T15:54:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-13T15:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vulphere&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Vulphere|2019-08-13T15:54:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Power~enwiki|2019-08-14T17:46:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span>Support</b> seems like a good feature and a reasonable technical implementation. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Power~enwiki" title="User:Power~enwiki">power~enwiki</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Power~enwiki" title="User talk:Power~enwiki"><span style="color:#FA0;font-family:courier">π</span></a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Power~enwiki" title="Special:Contributions/Power~enwiki"><span style="font-family:courier">ν</span></a>) 17:46, 14 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Power~enwiki|2019-08-14T17:46:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-14T17:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Power~enwiki&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Power~enwiki|2019-08-14T17:46:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Esquivalience|2019-08-16T04:59:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span>Support</b>: Interactive elements in websites aren't the future. They aren't the present. They were years ago. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Esquivalience" title="User:Esquivalience">Esquivalience</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Esquivalience" title="User talk:Esquivalience">talk</a>) 04:59, 16 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Esquivalience|2019-08-16T04:59:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-16T04:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Esquivalience&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Esquivalience|2019-08-16T04:59:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<ul><li><b>Support</b> for all the same reasons I supported several of these past proposals, which have been generally uncontroversial but stopped short of implementation. — <samp><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rhododendrites" title="User:Rhododendrites"><span style="font-size:90%;letter-spacing:1px;text-shadow:0px -1px 0px Indigo;">Rhododendrites</span></a> <sup style="font-size:80%;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rhododendrites" title="User talk:Rhododendrites">talk</a></sup></samp> \\ 18:42, 30 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Rhododendrites|2019-07-30T18:42:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-30T18:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Rhododendrites&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Rhododendrites|2019-07-30T18:42:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Izno|2019-07-31T21:51:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span>Oppose</b> for anything on by default unless and until this is supported by an extension, which can actually deliver the Javascript as needed. As for opt-in, sure, but it should not require any change to the wikitext as that would not be supported for most people. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 21:51, 31 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Izno|2019-07-31T21:51:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-31T21:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Izno&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Izno|2019-07-31T21:51:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Smallbones|2019-08-01T13:33:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span>Support</b> it just looks and works wonderfully on the Hebrew Wikipedia.  I don't know about any technical issues, but I'd even recommend just copying the Hebrew version (if that would work similarly to what works there) and make any needed technical changes as people can agree on them. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Smallbones" title="User:Smallbones">Smallbones</a><sub>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smallbones" title="User talk:Smallbones"><span style="color: #cc6600;">smalltalk</span></a>)</sub> 13:33, 1 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Smallbones|2019-08-01T13:33:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-01T13:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Smallbones&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Smallbones|2019-08-01T13:33:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Isaacl|2019-08-01T17:52:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span>I agree that using a template to trigger page-specific loading of scripts and gadgets is a reasonable way to implement on-demand loading of Javascript. As I prefer generic solutions to one-off solutions, I support introducing this mechanism and approving Kipod's PGN viewer gadget for on-demand loading. (This does not preclude anyone in future deciding to implement another PGN viewer gadget.) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Isaacl&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Isaacl (page does not exist)">isaacl</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Isaacl" title="User talk:Isaacl">talk</a>) 17:52, 1 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Isaacl|2019-08-01T17:52:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-01T17:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Isaacl&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Isaacl|2019-08-01T17:52:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Levivich|2019-08-02T06:10:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span>Yes</b> – an obvious improvement, nice interface, will be useful to readers. <span style="white-space:nowrap;">– <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Levivich" title="User:Levivich">Leviv</a><span style="display:inline-block;position:relative;transform:rotate(45deg);bottom:-.57em;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Levivich" title="User talk:Levivich">ich</a></span></span> 06:10, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Levivich|2019-08-02T06:10:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-02T06:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Levivich&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Levivich|2019-08-02T06:10:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bilorv|2019-08-02T06:59:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span>Strong support</b>: the lack of an interactive interface like this is the reason I'm often frustrated by Wikipedia chess articles and often visit other sites to find the information I'm looking for. We should have been using this PGN viewer years ago. — Bilorv (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bilorv" title="User:Bilorv">// W A K E U P //</a>) 06:59, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bilorv|2019-08-02T06:59:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-02T06:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bilorv&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bilorv|2019-08-02T06:59:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ched|2019-08-04T00:03:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span>Support</b> I'd like to be able to "<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WarGames" title="WarGames">play . a . game</a>" — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ched" title="User:Ched">Ched</a></b> : <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ched" title="User talk:Ched"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;background:#0000fa;"> ? </span></a></span></small>   —  00:03, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ched|2019-08-04T00:03:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T00:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ched&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ched|2019-08-04T00:03:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Pichpich|2019-08-04T20:34:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span>Support</b> Nice addition to our chess-related articles. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pichpich" title="User:Pichpich">Pichpich</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pichpich" title="User talk:Pichpich">talk</a>) 20:34, 4 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pichpich|2019-08-04T20:34:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-04T20:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pichpich&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Pichpich|2019-08-04T20:34:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Dolotta|2019-08-07T22:39:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span>Strong Support</b> -- I know very little about the technical aspects of Wikipedia, but since it appears to be stable on another language of this encyclopedia of ours, I fully support implementing it. -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dolotta" title="User:Dolotta">Dolotta</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dolotta" title="User talk:Dolotta">talk</a>) 22:39, 7 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Dolotta|2019-08-07T22:39:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-07T22:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Dolotta&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Dolotta|2019-08-07T22:39:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Stifle|2019-08-08T09:51:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span>Sounds good, seems harmless enough. <b>Support</b>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Stifle" title="User:Stifle">Stifle</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stifle" title="User talk:Stifle">talk</a>) 09:51, 8 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Stifle|2019-08-08T09:51:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-08T09:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Stifle&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Stifle|2019-08-08T09:51:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|28bytes|2019-08-09T04:53:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span>What a neat feature to have. I love the way it's implemented in <a href="https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%97%D7%A7_%D7%94%D7%90%D7%9C%D7%9E%D7%95%D7%95%D7%AA" class="extiw" title="he:משחק האלמוות">the he-wiki article</a>. <b>Support</b>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:28bytes" title="User:28bytes">28bytes</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:28bytes" title="User talk:28bytes">talk</a>) 04:53, 9 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|28bytes|2019-08-09T04:53:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-09T04:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;28bytes&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|28bytes|2019-08-09T04:53:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JFG|2019-08-12T10:27:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span>Support</b> as an on-demand gadget which would load automatically on relevant pages. Great work, and very informative when studying a game. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JFG" title="User:JFG">JFG</a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JFG" title="User talk:JFG">talk</a></sup> 10:27, 12 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JFG|2019-08-12T10:27:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-12T10:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JFG&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JFG|2019-08-12T10:27:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|LukeSurl|2019-08-13T13:48:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span>Support</b> as per Dolotta. I can think of a few articles where this could be useful. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:LukeSurl" title="User:LukeSurl">LukeSurl</a><sup> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:LukeSurl" title="User talk:LukeSurl">t</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/LukeSurl" title="Special:Contributions/LukeSurl">c</a></sup> 13:48, 13 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|LukeSurl|2019-08-13T13:48:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-13T13:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;LukeSurl&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|LukeSurl|2019-08-13T13:48:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Vulphere|2019-08-13T15:54:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span>Support</b>.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vulphere" title="User:Vulphere"><span style="background:#000000; color:white; padding:2px;">Vulp</span></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Vulphere" title="User talk:Vulphere"><span style="background:#DC143C; color:white; padding:2px;">here</span></a> 15:54, 13 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vulphere|2019-08-13T15:54:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-13T15:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vulphere&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Vulphere|2019-08-13T15:54:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Power~enwiki|2019-08-14T17:46:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span>Support</b> seems like a good feature and a reasonable technical implementation. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Power~enwiki" title="User:Power~enwiki">power~enwiki</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Power~enwiki" title="User talk:Power~enwiki"><span style="color:#FA0;font-family:courier">π</span></a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Power~enwiki" title="Special:Contributions/Power~enwiki"><span style="font-family:courier">ν</span></a>) 17:46, 14 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Power~enwiki|2019-08-14T17:46:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-14T17:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Power~enwiki&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Power~enwiki|2019-08-14T17:46:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Esquivalience|2019-08-16T04:59:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span>Support</b>: Interactive elements in websites aren't the future. They aren't the present. They were years ago. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Esquivalience" title="User:Esquivalience">Esquivalience</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Esquivalience" title="User talk:Esquivalience">talk</a>) 04:59, 16 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Esquivalience|2019-08-16T04:59:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-16T04:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Esquivalience&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Esquivalience|2019-08-16T04:59:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-30T14:50:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
 <h3><span id=".22on_demand.22_loading_of_scripts_and_gadgets"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="&quot;on_demand&quot;_loading_of_scripts_and_gadgets" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|\&quot;on_demand\&quot;_loading_of_scripts_and_gadgets|Enable_chess_PGN_viewer_for_chess_articles|2019-07-31T23:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-31T23:41:00.000Z|\&quot;on_demand\&quot;_loading_of_scripts_and_gadgets&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:3,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|&quot;on_demand&quot;_loading_of_scripts_and_gadgets|Enable_chess_PGN_viewer_for_chess_articles|2019-07-31T23:41:00.000Z"></span>"on demand" loading of scripts and gadgets<span data-mw-comment-end="h|&quot;on_demand&quot;_loading_of_scripts_and_gadgets|Enable_chess_PGN_viewer_for_chess_articles|2019-07-31T23:41:00.000Z"></span></span></h3>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|קיפודנחש|2019-07-31T23:41:00.000Z|&quot;on_demand&quot;_loading_of_scripts_and_gadgets"></span>I'd like to describe the "on demand loading" mechanism used on ruwiki, hewiki, and others (e.g., runews, ukwiki and more).
 </p><p>So, most of our site-specific code has to do with utilities meant mainly for editors, but there are some scripts which affect the content, for reading. An example on enwiki is the part in <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js" title="MediaWiki:Common.js">mediawiki:common.js</a> that deals with collapsing, and the part that executes special code when reading the main page. 
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-<p>This will achieve the same objective: The script will load if and only if it should load, so if enwiki will have, say, 578 articles which want to show interactive chess game, the script will load for readers only when they view one of those pages, and the other 4M+ articles will not have to pay the bloat. peace - <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%93%D7%A0%D7%97%D7%A9" title="User:קיפודנחש">קיפודנחש (aka kipod)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%93%D7%A0%D7%97%D7%A9" title="User talk:קיפודנחש">talk</a>) 23:41, 31 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-31T23:41:00.000Z|\&quot;on_demand\&quot;_loading_of_scripts_and_gadgets&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Wugapodes|2019-08-01T03:14:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-31T23:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Galobtter|2019-08-02T06:43:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-31T23:41:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-31T23:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|קיפודנחש|2019-07-31T23:41:00.000Z|&quot;on_demand&quot;_loading_of_scripts_and_gadgets"></span>
+<p>This will achieve the same objective: The script will load if and only if it should load, so if enwiki will have, say, 578 articles which want to show interactive chess game, the script will load for readers only when they view one of those pages, and the other 4M+ articles will not have to pay the bloat. peace - <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%93%D7%A0%D7%97%D7%A9" title="User:קיפודנחש">קיפודנחש (aka kipod)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%93%D7%A0%D7%97%D7%A9" title="User talk:קיפודנחש">talk</a>) 23:41, 31 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-31T23:41:00.000Z|\&quot;on_demand\&quot;_loading_of_scripts_and_gadgets&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Wugapodes|2019-08-01T03:14:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-31T23:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Galobtter|2019-08-02T06:43:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-31T23:41:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-31T23:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|קיפודנחש|2019-07-31T23:41:00.000Z|&quot;on_demand&quot;_loading_of_scripts_and_gadgets"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Wugapodes|2019-08-01T03:14:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-31T23:41:00.000Z"></span>I've updated the implementation section with your one-off suggestion since it seems simplest. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wugapodes" title="User:Wugapodes">Wug·</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Wugapodes" title="User talk:Wugapodes">a·po·des</a>​ 03:14, 1 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Wugapodes|2019-08-01T03:14:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-31T23:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-01T03:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Wugapodes&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Wugapodes|2019-08-01T03:14:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-31T23:41:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Galobtter|2019-08-02T06:43:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-31T23:41:00.000Z"></span>One-off alternative looks good, but on enwiki rather than having that sort of small snippet in common.js, it is done in the form of a default gadget (e.g <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-geonotice.js" title="MediaWiki:Gadget-geonotice.js">MediaWiki:Gadget-geonotice.js</a>) that loads that "core" hidden gadget (e.g. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-geonotice-core.js" title="MediaWiki:Gadget-geonotice-core.js">MediaWiki:Gadget-geonotice-core.js</a>), which also allows people to disable the gadget if they don't like it. I would agree with Izno that it would be nice if things like these were implemented as an extension rather than as a gadget, but making something to an extension would certainly delay this considerably and possibly make it so no solution is ever implemented. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Galobtter" title="User:Galobtter">Galobtter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Galobtter" title="User talk:Galobtter">pingó mió</a>) 06:43, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Galobtter|2019-08-02T06:43:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-31T23:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-02T06:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Galobtter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Galobtter|2019-08-02T06:43:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-31T23:41:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Wugapodes|2019-08-01T03:14:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-31T23:41:00.000Z"></span>I've updated the implementation section with your one-off suggestion since it seems simplest. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wugapodes" title="User:Wugapodes">Wug·</a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Wugapodes" title="User talk:Wugapodes">a·po·des</a>​ 03:14, 1 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Wugapodes|2019-08-01T03:14:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-31T23:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-01T03:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Wugapodes&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Wugapodes|2019-08-01T03:14:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-31T23:41:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Galobtter|2019-08-02T06:43:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-31T23:41:00.000Z"></span>One-off alternative looks good, but on enwiki rather than having that sort of small snippet in common.js, it is done in the form of a default gadget (e.g <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-geonotice.js" title="MediaWiki:Gadget-geonotice.js">MediaWiki:Gadget-geonotice.js</a>) that loads that "core" hidden gadget (e.g. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-geonotice-core.js" title="MediaWiki:Gadget-geonotice-core.js">MediaWiki:Gadget-geonotice-core.js</a>), which also allows people to disable the gadget if they don't like it. I would agree with Izno that it would be nice if things like these were implemented as an extension rather than as a gadget, but making something to an extension would certainly delay this considerably and possibly make it so no solution is ever implemented. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Galobtter" title="User:Galobtter">Galobtter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Galobtter" title="User talk:Galobtter">pingó mió</a>) 06:43, 2 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Galobtter|2019-08-02T06:43:00.000Z|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-07-31T23:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-02T06:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Galobtter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Galobtter|2019-08-02T06:43:00.000Z|קיפודנחש|2019-07-31T23:41:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
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 <h2><span id="Wikipedia_Beta_.27Jump_To.27_tool_not_functioning_in_Mobile_View"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Wikipedia_Beta_'Jump_To'_tool_not_functioning_in_Mobile_View" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Wikipedia_Beta_'Jump_To'_tool_not_functioning_in_Mobile_View|2019-08-15T23:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nick Moyes|2019-08-15T23:30:00.000Z|Wikipedia_Beta_'Jump_To'_tool_not_functioning_in_Mobile_View&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Wikipedia_Beta_'Jump_To'_tool_not_functioning_in_Mobile_View|2019-08-15T23:30:00.000Z"></span>Wikipedia Beta 'Jump To' tool not functioning in Mobile View<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Wikipedia_Beta_'Jump_To'_tool_not_functioning_in_Mobile_View|2019-08-15T23:30:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nick Moyes|2019-08-15T23:30:00.000Z|Wikipedia_Beta_'Jump_To'_tool_not_functioning_in_Mobile_View"></span>So, I have Wikipedia Beta enabled in Mobile View on my <s>iPad</s> iPhone 5S, with a nice 'Tick' suggesting the 'Jump To Top' function is also enabled. But I'm not seeing any form of floating button to help me move back to the top. Nor can I easily find any url to this documented function to assist me in report the issue - hence my post here. By way of example, navigating through <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ANI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ANI">WP:ANI</a> in mobile view is a real struggle, and would be helped by this tool, whereas I've already added to the <code>{{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Skip_to_top_and_bottom" title="Template:Skip to top and bottom">skip to top and bottom</a>}}</code> template to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:TH" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TH">The Teahouse</a> which makes life so much easier when navigating up and down, whether in desktop or mobile view. I'd love to get that similar functionality working on all article pages when in Mobile View. Many thanks, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nick_Moyes" title="User:Nick Moyes">Nick Moyes</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nick_Moyes" title="User talk:Nick Moyes">talk</a>) 23:30, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nick Moyes|2019-08-15T23:30:00.000Z|Wikipedia_Beta_'Jump_To'_tool_not_functioning_in_Mobile_View&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-08-16T05:33:00.000Z|Nick Moyes|2019-08-15T23:30:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T23:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nick Moyes&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nick Moyes|2019-08-15T23:30:00.000Z|Wikipedia_Beta_'Jump_To'_tool_not_functioning_in_Mobile_View"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nick Moyes|2019-08-15T23:30:00.000Z|Wikipedia_Beta_'Jump_To'_tool_not_functioning_in_Mobile_View"></span>So, I have Wikipedia Beta enabled in Mobile View on my <s>iPad</s> iPhone 5S, with a nice 'Tick' suggesting the 'Jump To Top' function is also enabled. But I'm not seeing any form of floating button to help me move back to the top. Nor can I easily find any url to this documented function to assist me in report the issue - hence my post here. By way of example, navigating through <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ANI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ANI">WP:ANI</a> in mobile view is a real struggle, and would be helped by this tool, whereas I've already added to the <code>{{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Skip_to_top_and_bottom" title="Template:Skip to top and bottom">skip to top and bottom</a>}}</code> template to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:TH" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TH">The Teahouse</a> which makes life so much easier when navigating up and down, whether in desktop or mobile view. I'd love to get that similar functionality working on all article pages when in Mobile View. Many thanks, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nick_Moyes" title="User:Nick Moyes">Nick Moyes</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nick_Moyes" title="User talk:Nick Moyes">talk</a>) 23:30, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nick Moyes|2019-08-15T23:30:00.000Z|Wikipedia_Beta_'Jump_To'_tool_not_functioning_in_Mobile_View&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-08-16T05:33:00.000Z|Nick Moyes|2019-08-15T23:30:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T23:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nick Moyes&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nick Moyes|2019-08-15T23:30:00.000Z|Wikipedia_Beta_'Jump_To'_tool_not_functioning_in_Mobile_View"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-08-16T05:33:00.000Z|Nick Moyes|2019-08-15T23:30:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nick_Moyes" title="User:Nick Moyes">Nick Moyes</a>:</span> Weird. I am using the beta version and this floating jump to top button is fully working on my Chrome Dev 77. What browser you are using? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Masumrezarock100" title="User:Masumrezarock100"><u style="color:#087643;font-face:arial;text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;"><i><b>Masum Reza</b></i></u></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masumrezarock100" title="User talk:Masumrezarock100"><sup style="color:orange;"><i>📞</i></sup></a> 05:33, 16 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-08-16T05:33:00.000Z|Nick Moyes|2019-08-15T23:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nick Moyes|2019-08-16T06:51:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-08-16T05:33:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-16T05:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Masumrezarock100&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-08-16T05:33:00.000Z|Nick Moyes|2019-08-15T23:30:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nick Moyes|2019-08-16T06:51:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-08-16T05:33:00.000Z"></span>Hi <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Masumrezarock100" title="User:Masumrezarock100">Masumrezarock100</a>, I'm using the iPhone's default Safari browser.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nick_Moyes" title="User:Nick Moyes">Nick Moyes</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nick_Moyes" title="User talk:Nick Moyes">talk</a>) 06:51, 16 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nick Moyes|2019-08-16T06:51:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-08-16T05:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-08-16T07:06:00.000Z|Nick Moyes|2019-08-16T06:51:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-16T06:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nick Moyes&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nick Moyes|2019-08-16T06:51:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-08-16T05:33:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-08-16T07:06:00.000Z|Nick Moyes|2019-08-16T06:51:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nick_Moyes" title="User:Nick Moyes">Nick Moyes</a>:</span> Try changing your browser. It's most likely because of lack of browser support. Does this kind of thing happened to you before or is it new? You can report about this at <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Reading/Web/Advanced_mobile_contributions" class="extiw" title="mw:Talk:Reading/Web/Advanced mobile contributions">mw:Talk:Reading/Web/Advanced_mobile_contributions</a>. Though it's the talk page of AMC mode not Wikipedia beta. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Masumrezarock100" title="User:Masumrezarock100"><u style="color:#087643;font-face:arial;text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;"><i><b>Masum Reza</b></i></u></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masumrezarock100" title="User talk:Masumrezarock100"><sup style="color:orange;"><i>📞</i></sup></a> 07:06, 16 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-08-16T07:06:00.000Z|Nick Moyes|2019-08-16T06:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nick Moyes|2019-08-16T12:06:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-08-16T07:06:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-16T07:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Masumrezarock100&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-08-16T07:06:00.000Z|Nick Moyes|2019-08-16T06:51:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nick Moyes|2019-08-16T12:06:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-08-16T07:06:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Masumrezarock100" title="User:Masumrezarock100">Masumrezarock100</a>:</span> I don't know when the jump-to-top button was implemented, but I've only just switched from working on my phone in desktop view to experimenting with it in mobile view (in order to try out the Advanced Contributions Mode). I'll check your helpful link and report the Safari browser issue. Thanks, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nick_Moyes" title="User:Nick Moyes">Nick Moyes</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nick_Moyes" title="User talk:Nick Moyes">talk</a>) 12:06, 16 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nick Moyes|2019-08-16T12:06:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-08-16T07:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-16T12:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nick Moyes&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nick Moyes|2019-08-16T12:06:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-08-16T07:06:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-08-16T05:33:00.000Z|Nick Moyes|2019-08-15T23:30:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nick_Moyes" title="User:Nick Moyes">Nick Moyes</a>:</span> Weird. I am using the beta version and this floating jump to top button is fully working on my Chrome Dev 77. What browser you are using? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Masumrezarock100" title="User:Masumrezarock100"><u style="color:#087643;font-face:arial;text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;"><i><b>Masum Reza</b></i></u></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masumrezarock100" title="User talk:Masumrezarock100"><sup style="color:orange;"><i>📞</i></sup></a> 05:33, 16 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-08-16T05:33:00.000Z|Nick Moyes|2019-08-15T23:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nick Moyes|2019-08-16T06:51:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-08-16T05:33:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-16T05:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Masumrezarock100&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-08-16T05:33:00.000Z|Nick Moyes|2019-08-15T23:30:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nick Moyes|2019-08-16T06:51:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-08-16T05:33:00.000Z"></span>Hi <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Masumrezarock100" title="User:Masumrezarock100">Masumrezarock100</a>, I'm using the iPhone's default Safari browser.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nick_Moyes" title="User:Nick Moyes">Nick Moyes</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nick_Moyes" title="User talk:Nick Moyes">talk</a>) 06:51, 16 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nick Moyes|2019-08-16T06:51:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-08-16T05:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-08-16T07:06:00.000Z|Nick Moyes|2019-08-16T06:51:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-16T06:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nick Moyes&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nick Moyes|2019-08-16T06:51:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-08-16T05:33:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-08-16T07:06:00.000Z|Nick Moyes|2019-08-16T06:51:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nick_Moyes" title="User:Nick Moyes">Nick Moyes</a>:</span> Try changing your browser. It's most likely because of lack of browser support. Does this kind of thing happened to you before or is it new? You can report about this at <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Reading/Web/Advanced_mobile_contributions" class="extiw" title="mw:Talk:Reading/Web/Advanced mobile contributions">mw:Talk:Reading/Web/Advanced_mobile_contributions</a>. Though it's the talk page of AMC mode not Wikipedia beta. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Masumrezarock100" title="User:Masumrezarock100"><u style="color:#087643;font-face:arial;text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;"><i><b>Masum Reza</b></i></u></a><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masumrezarock100" title="User talk:Masumrezarock100"><sup style="color:orange;"><i>📞</i></sup></a> 07:06, 16 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Masumrezarock100|2019-08-16T07:06:00.000Z|Nick Moyes|2019-08-16T06:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nick Moyes|2019-08-16T12:06:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-08-16T07:06:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-16T07:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Masumrezarock100&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Masumrezarock100|2019-08-16T07:06:00.000Z|Nick Moyes|2019-08-16T06:51:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nick Moyes|2019-08-16T12:06:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-08-16T07:06:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Masumrezarock100" title="User:Masumrezarock100">Masumrezarock100</a>:</span> I don't know when the jump-to-top button was implemented, but I've only just switched from working on my phone in desktop view to experimenting with it in mobile view (in order to try out the Advanced Contributions Mode). I'll check your helpful link and report the Safari browser issue. Thanks, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nick_Moyes" title="User:Nick Moyes">Nick Moyes</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nick_Moyes" title="User talk:Nick Moyes">talk</a>) 12:06, 16 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nick Moyes|2019-08-16T12:06:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-08-16T07:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-16T12:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nick Moyes&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nick Moyes|2019-08-16T12:06:00.000Z|Masumrezarock100|2019-08-16T07:06:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="VTE_links_not_opening_on_mobile" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|VTE_links_not_opening_on_mobile|2019-08-13T05:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T05:44:00.000Z|VTE_links_not_opening_on_mobile&quot;,&quot;c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-17T07:41:00.000Z|VTE_links_not_opening_on_mobile&quot;,&quot;c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-17T07:51:00.000Z|VTE_links_not_opening_on_mobile&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|VTE_links_not_opening_on_mobile|2019-08-13T05:44:00.000Z"></span>VTE links not opening on mobile<span data-mw-comment-end="h|VTE_links_not_opening_on_mobile|2019-08-13T05:44:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T05:44:00.000Z|VTE_links_not_opening_on_mobile"></span>Is it intended that VTE links for nav templatrs only activate tooltip with link name unlinked? I think they should normally lead to each link target (view for template page, talk for its talk page and edit for edit window for template in question). --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/5.43.96.116" title="Special:Contributions/5.43.96.116">5.43.96.116</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:5.43.96.116&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:5.43.96.116 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 05:44, 13 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T05:44:00.000Z|VTE_links_not_opening_on_mobile&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T12:55:00.000Z|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T05:44:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-13T05:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;5.43.96.116&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T05:44:00.000Z|VTE_links_not_opening_on_mobile"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T05:44:00.000Z|VTE_links_not_opening_on_mobile"></span>Is it intended that VTE links for nav templatrs only activate tooltip with link name unlinked? I think they should normally lead to each link target (view for template page, talk for its talk page and edit for edit window for template in question). --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/5.43.96.116" title="Special:Contributions/5.43.96.116">5.43.96.116</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:5.43.96.116&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:5.43.96.116 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 05:44, 13 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T05:44:00.000Z|VTE_links_not_opening_on_mobile&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T12:55:00.000Z|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T05:44:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-13T05:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;5.43.96.116&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T05:44:00.000Z|VTE_links_not_opening_on_mobile"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T12:55:00.000Z|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T05:44:00.000Z"></span>Nav templates usually aren't displayed in mobile but when they are, like on the template page <a class="external free" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Seasons">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Seasons</a>, the links work for me. Please link an example and name your mobile device or browser. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 12:55, 13 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T12:55:00.000Z|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T05:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T13:23:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T12:55:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-13T12:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T12:55:00.000Z|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T05:44:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T13:23:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T12:55:00.000Z"></span>Please identify a problem (and fix it if it's not hard for you) for <a href="https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D1%83%D0%BC%D1%83%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8_%D1%98%D0%B5%D0%B7%D0%B8%D0%BA#Спољашње_везе" class="extiw" title="sr:Румунски језик">sr:Румунски језик#Спољашње везе</a>. Probably navbox template should be updated there or some MediaWiki. Those English in your example are working for me; I use latest Samsung Internet browser, and view the article in desktop view on a mobile device. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/5.43.96.116" title="Special:Contributions/5.43.96.116">5.43.96.116</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:5.43.96.116&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:5.43.96.116 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 13:23, 13 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T13:23:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T12:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T14:54:00.000Z|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T13:23:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-13T13:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;5.43.96.116&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T13:23:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T12:55:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T14:54:00.000Z|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T13:23:00.000Z"></span>I don't have an Android device but can reproduce the issue on an iPad. <a href="https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter/sandbox" class="extiw" title="sr:User:PrimeHunter/sandbox">sr:User:PrimeHunter/sandbox</a> has the code <code>[[X|&lt;abbr title="tooltip">V&lt;/abbr>]]</code>. On an iPad I see underlining with dots and see "tooltip" when I click it but don't go anywhere. The same code here: <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X" title="X"><abbr title="tooltip">V</abbr></a>. On an iPad I cannot see "tooltip" but I go to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X" title="X">X</a> when I click it. I don't know what makes the difference. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 14:54, 13 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T14:54:00.000Z|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T13:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Obsuser|2019-08-13T17:32:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T14:54:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-13T14:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T14:54:00.000Z|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T13:23:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Obsuser|2019-08-13T17:32:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T14:54:00.000Z"></span>You mean you don't know why one doesn't go anywhere but sees only tooltip? I think something is wrong with <a href="https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%BE%D0%B4%D1%83%D0%BB:Navbar" class="extiw" title="sr:Модул:Navbar">sr:Модул:Navbar</a> or some .css/.js MediaWiki page is not updated on sr.wikipedia. Maybe p.addItem function in sr:Модул:Navbar is not working properly but after comparing Navbox and Navbar templates and modules to that on English Wikipedia I cannot notice content difference except translations. Maybe Cyrillic translation makes problem? I don't known why it works here in your example with Template:Seasons but not with sr.wikipedia navbox template links... If someone else can help, please help. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Obsuser" title="User:Obsuser">Obsuser</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Obsuser" title="User talk:Obsuser">talk</a>) 17:32, 13 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Obsuser|2019-08-13T17:32:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T14:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T19:01:00.000Z|Obsuser|2019-08-13T17:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-13T17:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Obsuser&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Obsuser|2019-08-13T17:32:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T14:54:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T19:01:00.000Z|Obsuser|2019-08-13T17:32:00.000Z"></span>I don't use a template, module or non-Latin characters at <a href="https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter/sandbox" class="extiw" title="sr:User:PrimeHunter/sandbox">sr:User:PrimeHunter/sandbox</a>. The page only contains the mentioned code: <code>[[X|&lt;abbr title="tooltip">V&lt;/abbr>]]</code>. This simplified example gives a different result at srwiki and enwiki on an iPad. The navbox makes code of this form with abbr inside a wikilink. I simplified the navbox output as much as possible while still producing the issue. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 19:01, 13 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T19:01:00.000Z|Obsuser|2019-08-13T17:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Obsuser|2019-08-13T19:13:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T19:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-13T19:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T19:01:00.000Z|Obsuser|2019-08-13T17:32:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Obsuser|2019-08-13T19:13:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T19:01:00.000Z"></span>Yes, but why it gives a different result at srwiki and enwiki? --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Obsuser" title="User:Obsuser">Obsuser</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Obsuser" title="User talk:Obsuser">talk</a>) 19:13, 13 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Obsuser|2019-08-13T19:13:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T19:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T20:13:00.000Z|Obsuser|2019-08-13T19:13:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-13T19:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Obsuser&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Obsuser|2019-08-13T19:13:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T19:01:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T20:13:00.000Z|Obsuser|2019-08-13T19:13:00.000Z"></span>That's the question. <code>[[X|&lt;abbr title="tooltip">V&lt;/abbr>]]</code> produces a working link on iPad in three other tested languages zh, de, da. It works with <a class="external free" href="https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter/sandbox?safemode=1">https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter/sandbox?safemode=1</a>. Without safemode it fails both logged in and out at srwiki. It also fails at <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sr:" class="extiw" title="wikt:sr:">wikt:sr:</a> while it works at <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/en:" class="extiw" title="wikt:en:">wikt:en:</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 20:13, 13 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T20:13:00.000Z|Obsuser|2019-08-13T19:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T08:17:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T20:13:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-13T20:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T20:13:00.000Z|Obsuser|2019-08-13T19:13:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T08:17:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T20:13:00.000Z"></span>It's caused by the default gadget <a href="https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-ReferenceTooltips.js" class="extiw" title="sr:MediaWiki:Gadget-ReferenceTooltips.js">sr:MediaWiki:Gadget-ReferenceTooltips.js</a>. enwiki had the same issue at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Gadget-ReferenceTooltips.js#Interference_with_links_on_touchscreen" title="MediaWiki talk:Gadget-ReferenceTooltips.js">MediaWiki talk:Gadget-ReferenceTooltips.js#Interference with links on touchscreen</a>, fixed by <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Gadget-ReferenceTooltips.js&amp;diff=896561225&amp;oldid=881441476">[44]</a>. The Serbian gadget can only be edited by a Serbian interface administrator. The latest edits were made by <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%BE_%D0%9D%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%9B" title="User:Ранко Николић">User:Ранко Николић</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 08:17, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:9,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T08:17:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T20:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Obsuser|2019-08-17T00:01:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T08:17:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T08:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T08:17:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T20:13:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Obsuser|2019-08-17T00:01:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T08:17:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a>:</span> Thank you very much for that info. But if you check <a href="https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/21299776/22084018" class="extiw" title="sr:Special:Diff/21299776/22084018">sr:Special:Diff/21299776/22084018</a> you will see that that update has already been done here (you can check <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.diffchecker.com/OPL0bTp1">diffs, only textual translations are made and code is same</a>); however, the problem is still present as we see... Is it something else problem with this? [Please ping me...] <a href="#Obssorry">‡</a> --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Obsuser" title="User:Obsuser">Obsuser</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Obsuser" title="User talk:Obsuser">talk</a>) 00:01, 17 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:10,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Obsuser|2019-08-17T00:01:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T08:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-17T00:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Obsuser&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Obsuser|2019-08-17T00:01:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T08:17:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T12:55:00.000Z|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T05:44:00.000Z"></span>Nav templates usually aren't displayed in mobile but when they are, like on the template page <a class="external free" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Seasons">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Seasons</a>, the links work for me. Please link an example and name your mobile device or browser. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 12:55, 13 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T12:55:00.000Z|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T05:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T13:23:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T12:55:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-13T12:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T12:55:00.000Z|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T05:44:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T13:23:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T12:55:00.000Z"></span>Please identify a problem (and fix it if it's not hard for you) for <a href="https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D1%83%D0%BC%D1%83%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8_%D1%98%D0%B5%D0%B7%D0%B8%D0%BA#Спољашње_везе" class="extiw" title="sr:Румунски језик">sr:Румунски језик#Спољашње везе</a>. Probably navbox template should be updated there or some MediaWiki. Those English in your example are working for me; I use latest Samsung Internet browser, and view the article in desktop view on a mobile device. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/5.43.96.116" title="Special:Contributions/5.43.96.116">5.43.96.116</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:5.43.96.116&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:5.43.96.116 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 13:23, 13 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T13:23:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T12:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T14:54:00.000Z|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T13:23:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-13T13:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;5.43.96.116&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T13:23:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T12:55:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T14:54:00.000Z|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T13:23:00.000Z"></span>I don't have an Android device but can reproduce the issue on an iPad. <a href="https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter/sandbox" class="extiw" title="sr:User:PrimeHunter/sandbox">sr:User:PrimeHunter/sandbox</a> has the code <code>[[X|&lt;abbr title="tooltip">V&lt;/abbr>]]</code>. On an iPad I see underlining with dots and see "tooltip" when I click it but don't go anywhere. The same code here: <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X" title="X"><abbr title="tooltip">V</abbr></a>. On an iPad I cannot see "tooltip" but I go to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X" title="X">X</a> when I click it. I don't know what makes the difference. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 14:54, 13 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T14:54:00.000Z|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T13:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Obsuser|2019-08-13T17:32:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T14:54:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-13T14:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T14:54:00.000Z|5.43.96.116|2019-08-13T13:23:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Obsuser|2019-08-13T17:32:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T14:54:00.000Z"></span>You mean you don't know why one doesn't go anywhere but sees only tooltip? I think something is wrong with <a href="https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%BE%D0%B4%D1%83%D0%BB:Navbar" class="extiw" title="sr:Модул:Navbar">sr:Модул:Navbar</a> or some .css/.js MediaWiki page is not updated on sr.wikipedia. Maybe p.addItem function in sr:Модул:Navbar is not working properly but after comparing Navbox and Navbar templates and modules to that on English Wikipedia I cannot notice content difference except translations. Maybe Cyrillic translation makes problem? I don't known why it works here in your example with Template:Seasons but not with sr.wikipedia navbox template links... If someone else can help, please help. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Obsuser" title="User:Obsuser">Obsuser</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Obsuser" title="User talk:Obsuser">talk</a>) 17:32, 13 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Obsuser|2019-08-13T17:32:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T14:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T19:01:00.000Z|Obsuser|2019-08-13T17:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-13T17:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Obsuser&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Obsuser|2019-08-13T17:32:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T14:54:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T19:01:00.000Z|Obsuser|2019-08-13T17:32:00.000Z"></span>I don't use a template, module or non-Latin characters at <a href="https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter/sandbox" class="extiw" title="sr:User:PrimeHunter/sandbox">sr:User:PrimeHunter/sandbox</a>. The page only contains the mentioned code: <code>[[X|&lt;abbr title="tooltip">V&lt;/abbr>]]</code>. This simplified example gives a different result at srwiki and enwiki on an iPad. The navbox makes code of this form with abbr inside a wikilink. I simplified the navbox output as much as possible while still producing the issue. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 19:01, 13 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T19:01:00.000Z|Obsuser|2019-08-13T17:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Obsuser|2019-08-13T19:13:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T19:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-13T19:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T19:01:00.000Z|Obsuser|2019-08-13T17:32:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Obsuser|2019-08-13T19:13:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T19:01:00.000Z"></span>Yes, but why it gives a different result at srwiki and enwiki? --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Obsuser" title="User:Obsuser">Obsuser</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Obsuser" title="User talk:Obsuser">talk</a>) 19:13, 13 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Obsuser|2019-08-13T19:13:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T19:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T20:13:00.000Z|Obsuser|2019-08-13T19:13:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-13T19:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Obsuser&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Obsuser|2019-08-13T19:13:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T19:01:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T20:13:00.000Z|Obsuser|2019-08-13T19:13:00.000Z"></span>That's the question. <code>[[X|&lt;abbr title="tooltip">V&lt;/abbr>]]</code> produces a working link on iPad in three other tested languages zh, de, da. It works with <a class="external free" href="https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter/sandbox?safemode=1">https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter/sandbox?safemode=1</a>. Without safemode it fails both logged in and out at srwiki. It also fails at <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sr:" class="extiw" title="wikt:sr:">wikt:sr:</a> while it works at <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/en:" class="extiw" title="wikt:en:">wikt:en:</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 20:13, 13 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T20:13:00.000Z|Obsuser|2019-08-13T19:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T08:17:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T20:13:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-13T20:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T20:13:00.000Z|Obsuser|2019-08-13T19:13:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T08:17:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T20:13:00.000Z"></span>It's caused by the default gadget <a href="https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-ReferenceTooltips.js" class="extiw" title="sr:MediaWiki:Gadget-ReferenceTooltips.js">sr:MediaWiki:Gadget-ReferenceTooltips.js</a>. enwiki had the same issue at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Gadget-ReferenceTooltips.js#Interference_with_links_on_touchscreen" title="MediaWiki talk:Gadget-ReferenceTooltips.js">MediaWiki talk:Gadget-ReferenceTooltips.js#Interference with links on touchscreen</a>, fixed by <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Gadget-ReferenceTooltips.js&amp;diff=896561225&amp;oldid=881441476">[44]</a>. The Serbian gadget can only be edited by a Serbian interface administrator. The latest edits were made by <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%BE_%D0%9D%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%9B" title="User:Ранко Николић">User:Ранко Николић</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 08:17, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:9,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T08:17:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T20:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Obsuser|2019-08-17T00:01:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T08:17:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T08:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T08:17:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-13T20:13:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Obsuser|2019-08-17T00:01:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T08:17:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a>:</span> Thank you very much for that info. But if you check <a href="https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/21299776/22084018" class="extiw" title="sr:Special:Diff/21299776/22084018">sr:Special:Diff/21299776/22084018</a> you will see that that update has already been done here (you can check <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.diffchecker.com/OPL0bTp1">diffs, only textual translations are made and code is same</a>); however, the problem is still present as we see... Is it something else problem with this? [Please ping me...] <a href="#Obssorry">‡</a> --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Obsuser" title="User:Obsuser">Obsuser</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Obsuser" title="User talk:Obsuser">talk</a>) 00:01, 17 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:10,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Obsuser|2019-08-17T00:01:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T08:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-17T00:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Obsuser&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Obsuser|2019-08-17T00:01:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T08:17:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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-<span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-17T07:41:00.000Z|VTE_links_not_opening_on_mobile"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a>:</span> They are working actually now for me, same behaviour as English Wikipedia when logged out and on Samsung Internet latest. Only that on both sites tooltip is displayed first with "View this template" etc. messages, this could be probably prevented somehow because no use after one clicks it on mobile, because one goes to the link destination anyhow... Btw, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Outdent" title="Template:Outdent">Template:Outdent</a> displays one level or so less on mobile (I used 9 right above and upper vertical part is significantly left of the last paragraph's bottom left). --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/5.43.96.116" title="Special:Contributions/5.43.96.116">5.43.96.116</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:5.43.96.116&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:5.43.96.116 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 07:41, 17 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-17T07:41:00.000Z|VTE_links_not_opening_on_mobile&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-17T07:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;5.43.96.116&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-17T07:41:00.000Z|VTE_links_not_opening_on_mobile"></span>
-</p><p><span id="Obssorry"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-17T07:51:00.000Z|VTE_links_not_opening_on_mobile"></span> And I'm sorry for a such comment (the one prior to the previous one) because I didn't see/notice that the update on sr.wiki gadgets's page was done on 15 August, day or two before i.e. after this thread began (13 August morning/dawn). Ranko Nikolić probably got pinged after 08:17, 15 August 2019 (UTC) comment and then reacted to solve the problem. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/5.43.96.116" title="Special:Contributions/5.43.96.116">5.43.96.116</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:5.43.96.116&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:5.43.96.116 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 07:51, 17 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-17T07:51:00.000Z|VTE_links_not_opening_on_mobile&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-17T08:13:00.000Z|5.43.96.116|2019-08-17T07:51:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-17T07:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;5.43.96.116&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-17T07:51:00.000Z|VTE_links_not_opening_on_mobile"></span>
+<span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-17T07:41:00.000Z|VTE_links_not_opening_on_mobile"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a>:</span> They are working actually now for me, same behaviour as English Wikipedia when logged out and on Samsung Internet latest. Only that on both sites tooltip is displayed first with "View this template" etc. messages, this could be probably prevented somehow because no use after one clicks it on mobile, because one goes to the link destination anyhow... Btw, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Outdent" title="Template:Outdent">Template:Outdent</a> displays one level or so less on mobile (I used 9 right above and upper vertical part is significantly left of the last paragraph's bottom left). --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/5.43.96.116" title="Special:Contributions/5.43.96.116">5.43.96.116</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:5.43.96.116&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:5.43.96.116 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 07:41, 17 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-17T07:41:00.000Z|VTE_links_not_opening_on_mobile&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-17T07:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;5.43.96.116&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-17T07:41:00.000Z|VTE_links_not_opening_on_mobile"></span>
+</p><p><span id="Obssorry"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-17T07:51:00.000Z|VTE_links_not_opening_on_mobile"></span> And I'm sorry for a such comment (the one prior to the previous one) because I didn't see/notice that the update on sr.wiki gadgets's page was done on 15 August, day or two before i.e. after this thread began (13 August morning/dawn). Ranko Nikolić probably got pinged after 08:17, 15 August 2019 (UTC) comment and then reacted to solve the problem. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/5.43.96.116" title="Special:Contributions/5.43.96.116">5.43.96.116</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:5.43.96.116&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:5.43.96.116 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 07:51, 17 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-17T07:51:00.000Z|VTE_links_not_opening_on_mobile&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-17T08:13:00.000Z|5.43.96.116|2019-08-17T07:51:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-17T07:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;5.43.96.116&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|5.43.96.116|2019-08-17T07:51:00.000Z|VTE_links_not_opening_on_mobile"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-17T08:13:00.000Z|5.43.96.116|2019-08-17T07:51:00.000Z"></span>Yes, he implemented the fix 21 minutes after my ping. It works for me now on iPad. Are you Obsuser or is he a different user who may still see the problem? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 08:13, 17 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-17T08:13:00.000Z|5.43.96.116|2019-08-17T07:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-17T08:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-17T08:13:00.000Z|5.43.96.116|2019-08-17T07:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-17T08:13:00.000Z|5.43.96.116|2019-08-17T07:51:00.000Z"></span>Yes, he implemented the fix 21 minutes after my ping. It works for me now on iPad. Are you Obsuser or is he a different user who may still see the problem? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 08:13, 17 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-17T08:13:00.000Z|5.43.96.116|2019-08-17T07:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-17T08:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-17T08:13:00.000Z|5.43.96.116|2019-08-17T07:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Place_important_links_on_top_instead" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Place_important_links_on_top_instead|2019-08-17T14:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Monniasza|2019-08-17T14:19:00.000Z|Place_important_links_on_top_instead&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Place_important_links_on_top_instead|2019-08-17T14:19:00.000Z"></span>Place important links on top instead<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Place_important_links_on_top_instead|2019-08-17T14:19:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Monniasza|2019-08-17T14:19:00.000Z|Place_important_links_on_top_instead"></span>Placing important links on top will be more helpful.
-</p><p>Privacy policy and disclaimers are important and should be placed on top. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Monniasza" title="User:Monniasza">Monniasza</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Monniasza" title="User talk:Monniasza">talk</a>  14:19, 17 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Monniasza|2019-08-17T14:19:00.000Z|Place_important_links_on_top_instead&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-17T14:34:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-08-17T14:19:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-17T14:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Monniasza&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Monniasza|2019-08-17T14:19:00.000Z|Place_important_links_on_top_instead"></span>
+</p><p>Privacy policy and disclaimers are important and should be placed on top. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Monniasza" title="User:Monniasza">Monniasza</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Monniasza" title="User talk:Monniasza">talk</a>  14:19, 17 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Monniasza|2019-08-17T14:19:00.000Z|Place_important_links_on_top_instead&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-17T14:34:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-08-17T14:19:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-17T14:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Monniasza&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Monniasza|2019-08-17T14:19:00.000Z|Place_important_links_on_top_instead"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Izno|2019-08-17T14:34:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-08-17T14:19:00.000Z"></span>People do not come here to read policy and disclaimers. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 14:34, 17 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-17T14:34:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-08-17T14:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-17T14:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Izno&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Izno|2019-08-17T14:34:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-08-17T14:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Izno|2019-08-17T14:34:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-08-17T14:19:00.000Z"></span>People do not come here to read policy and disclaimers. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 14:34, 17 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-17T14:34:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-08-17T14:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-17T14:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Izno&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Izno|2019-08-17T14:34:00.000Z|Monniasza|2019-08-17T14:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
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 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T02:46:00.000Z|Not_running_&quot;Community_tech_bot&quot;_for_Popular_pages"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6a/Pictogram_voting_wait.svg/14px-Pictogram_voting_wait.svg.png" decoding="async" width="14" height="14" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6a/Pictogram_voting_wait.svg/21px-Pictogram_voting_wait.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6a/Pictogram_voting_wait.svg/28px-Pictogram_voting_wait.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"/> <span style="font-size:85%;"><b>Bumping thread</b><span class="nowrap"> </span>for 30 days. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JoeHebda" title="User:JoeHebda">JoeHebda</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoeHebda" title="User talk:JoeHebda">talk</a>) 02:46, 19 July 2019 (UTC)</span>
-Greetings, Community tech bot appears to be down (not running) since April, 2019. Instructions are <i>To report bugs, please write on the <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Community_Tech_bot" class="extiw" title="meta:User talk:Community Tech bot">Community tech bot</a> talk page on Meta.</i> I did report in June, and with no response. Wondering if an expert here could fix? For example, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Saints/Popular_pages" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Saints/Popular pages">Wikipedia:WikiProject Saints/Popular pages</a> Updated: 6:32 pm, 26 April 2019, Friday (2 months, 13 days ago). Regards, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JoeHebda" title="User:JoeHebda">JoeHebda</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoeHebda" title="User talk:JoeHebda">talk</a>) 13:06, 8 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T02:46:00.000Z|Not_running_\&quot;Community_tech_bot\&quot;_for_Popular_pages&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-08T18:59:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T02:46:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-19T02:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JoeHebda&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T02:46:00.000Z|Not_running_&quot;Community_tech_bot&quot;_for_Popular_pages"></span>
+Greetings, Community tech bot appears to be down (not running) since April, 2019. Instructions are <i>To report bugs, please write on the <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Community_Tech_bot" class="extiw" title="meta:User talk:Community Tech bot">Community tech bot</a> talk page on Meta.</i> I did report in June, and with no response. Wondering if an expert here could fix? For example, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Saints/Popular_pages" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Saints/Popular pages">Wikipedia:WikiProject Saints/Popular pages</a> Updated: 6:32 pm, 26 April 2019, Friday (2 months, 13 days ago). Regards, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JoeHebda" title="User:JoeHebda">JoeHebda</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoeHebda" title="User talk:JoeHebda">talk</a>) 13:06, 8 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T02:46:00.000Z|Not_running_\&quot;Community_tech_bot\&quot;_for_Popular_pages&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-08T18:59:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T02:46:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-19T02:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JoeHebda&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T02:46:00.000Z|Not_running_&quot;Community_tech_bot&quot;_for_Popular_pages"></span>
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-<ul><li><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-08T18:59:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T02:46:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">MusikAnimal (WMF)</a>:</span> any insight in to this? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 18:59, 8 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-08T18:59:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T02:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-08T20:12:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-08T18:59:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-08T18:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-08T18:59:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T02:46:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-08T20:12:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-08T18:59:00.000Z"></span>The cron job for this month didn't start for some reason. I have manually triggered it. "Saints" is pretty far down the list so it may be a while before the bot gets to it. I don't have an answer as to why no report was created for May and June, but I will investigate. Also, don't forget about <a href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/massviews" class="extiw" title="toolforge:massviews">toolforge:massviews</a> which can give you the same information in real-time: <a class="external autonumber" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/massviews/?platform=all-access&amp;agent=user&amp;source=category&amp;target=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FCategory%3AWikiProject_Saints_articles&amp;range=last-month&amp;subjectpage=1&amp;subcategories=1&amp;sort=views&amp;direction=1&amp;view=list">[45]</a>. That tool seems to be having problems of its own (lots of errors querying the pageviews API, tracked at <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T219857" class="extiw" title="phab:T219857">phab:T219857</a>), which I'm starting to believe might be the same reason Popular Pages bot isn't finishing some reports. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">MusikAnimal (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User talk:MusikAnimal (WMF)">talk</a>) 20:12, 8 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-08T20:12:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-08T18:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-09T12:26:00.000Z|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-08T20:12:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-08T20:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal (WMF)&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-08T20:12:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-08T18:59:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-09T12:26:00.000Z|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-08T20:12:00.000Z"></span>Thanks <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">MusikAnimal (WMF)</a>:</span> - I really like viewing Popular Pages on my fav. WPs; very helpful! Wondering if bot stalls out if it's not done running current month jobs &amp; at calendar new month (day 1) starts a second bot? Just curious... <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JoeHebda" title="User:JoeHebda">JoeHebda</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoeHebda" title="User talk:JoeHebda">talk</a>) 12:26, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-09T12:26:00.000Z|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-08T20:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-09T17:28:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-09T12:26:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T12:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JoeHebda&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-09T12:26:00.000Z|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-08T20:12:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-09T17:28:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-09T12:26:00.000Z"></span>I suspect all the reports will be done within the next two weeks. If not, the reports for July will start populating on the 3rd. This is because it takes up to two full days for the previous month's data to be available. Best, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">MusikAnimal (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User talk:MusikAnimal (WMF)">talk</a>) 17:28, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-09T17:28:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-09T12:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-10T14:01:00.000Z|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-09T17:28:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T17:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal (WMF)&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-09T17:28:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-09T12:26:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-10T14:01:00.000Z|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-09T17:28:00.000Z"></span>Hello <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">MusikAnimal (WMF)</a>:</span> - Since starting at 15:41, 8 July 2019, the bot as of this morning has processed 60 WPs out of over 1,600 so it has a long ways to go to complete. At 30 perday, thats 53 days of runtime. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JoeHebda" title="User:JoeHebda">JoeHebda</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoeHebda" title="User talk:JoeHebda">talk</a>) 14:01, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-10T14:01:00.000Z|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-09T17:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-10T18:39:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-10T14:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T14:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JoeHebda&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-10T14:01:00.000Z|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-09T17:28:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-10T18:39:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-10T14:01:00.000Z"></span>The bot only goes through WPs configured at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Community_Tech_bot/Popular_pages_config.json" title="User:Community Tech bot/Popular pages config.json">User:Community Tech bot/Popular pages config.json</a>, which is about 800 or so. Most of these are quite small and will be processed quickly. That said I certainly can't guarantee they will all be finished before the month is over. We are monitoring and are discussing ways to improve performance. Thanks for your patience, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">MusikAnimal (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User talk:MusikAnimal (WMF)">talk</a>) 18:39, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-10T18:39:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-10T14:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T18:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal (WMF)&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-10T18:39:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-10T14:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li></ul>
+<ul><li><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-08T18:59:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T02:46:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">MusikAnimal (WMF)</a>:</span> any insight in to this? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 18:59, 8 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-07-08T18:59:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T02:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-08T20:12:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-08T18:59:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-08T18:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-07-08T18:59:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T02:46:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-08T20:12:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-08T18:59:00.000Z"></span>The cron job for this month didn't start for some reason. I have manually triggered it. "Saints" is pretty far down the list so it may be a while before the bot gets to it. I don't have an answer as to why no report was created for May and June, but I will investigate. Also, don't forget about <a href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/massviews" class="extiw" title="toolforge:massviews">toolforge:massviews</a> which can give you the same information in real-time: <a class="external autonumber" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/massviews/?platform=all-access&amp;agent=user&amp;source=category&amp;target=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FCategory%3AWikiProject_Saints_articles&amp;range=last-month&amp;subjectpage=1&amp;subcategories=1&amp;sort=views&amp;direction=1&amp;view=list">[45]</a>. That tool seems to be having problems of its own (lots of errors querying the pageviews API, tracked at <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T219857" class="extiw" title="phab:T219857">phab:T219857</a>), which I'm starting to believe might be the same reason Popular Pages bot isn't finishing some reports. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">MusikAnimal (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User talk:MusikAnimal (WMF)">talk</a>) 20:12, 8 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-08T20:12:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-08T18:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-09T12:26:00.000Z|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-08T20:12:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-08T20:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-08T20:12:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-07-08T18:59:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-09T12:26:00.000Z|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-08T20:12:00.000Z"></span>Thanks <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">MusikAnimal (WMF)</a>:</span> - I really like viewing Popular Pages on my fav. WPs; very helpful! Wondering if bot stalls out if it's not done running current month jobs &amp; at calendar new month (day 1) starts a second bot? Just curious... <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JoeHebda" title="User:JoeHebda">JoeHebda</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoeHebda" title="User talk:JoeHebda">talk</a>) 12:26, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-09T12:26:00.000Z|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-08T20:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-09T17:28:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-09T12:26:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T12:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JoeHebda&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-09T12:26:00.000Z|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-08T20:12:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-09T17:28:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-09T12:26:00.000Z"></span>I suspect all the reports will be done within the next two weeks. If not, the reports for July will start populating on the 3rd. This is because it takes up to two full days for the previous month's data to be available. Best, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">MusikAnimal (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User talk:MusikAnimal (WMF)">talk</a>) 17:28, 9 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-09T17:28:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-09T12:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-10T14:01:00.000Z|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-09T17:28:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-09T17:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-09T17:28:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-09T12:26:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-10T14:01:00.000Z|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-09T17:28:00.000Z"></span>Hello <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">MusikAnimal (WMF)</a>:</span> - Since starting at 15:41, 8 July 2019, the bot as of this morning has processed 60 WPs out of over 1,600 so it has a long ways to go to complete. At 30 perday, thats 53 days of runtime. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JoeHebda" title="User:JoeHebda">JoeHebda</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoeHebda" title="User talk:JoeHebda">talk</a>) 14:01, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-10T14:01:00.000Z|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-09T17:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-10T18:39:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-10T14:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T14:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JoeHebda&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-10T14:01:00.000Z|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-09T17:28:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-10T18:39:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-10T14:01:00.000Z"></span>The bot only goes through WPs configured at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Community_Tech_bot/Popular_pages_config.json" title="User:Community Tech bot/Popular pages config.json">User:Community Tech bot/Popular pages config.json</a>, which is about 800 or so. Most of these are quite small and will be processed quickly. That said I certainly can't guarantee they will all be finished before the month is over. We are monitoring and are discussing ways to improve performance. Thanks for your patience, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">MusikAnimal (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User talk:MusikAnimal (WMF)">talk</a>) 18:39, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-10T18:39:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-10T14:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T18:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-10T18:39:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-10T14:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li></ul>
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 <ul><li>Hi <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">MusikAnimal (WMF)</a>:</span> - while checking "Community Tech bot" info. I found another bot-related table <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Lists_of_popular_pages_by_WikiProject" title="Wikipedia:Lists of popular pages by WikiProject">Lists of popular pages by WikiProject</a>. And it appears to be manually maintained. Comparing this table against <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Community_Tech_bot/Popular_pages_config.json" title="User:Community Tech bot/Popular pages config.json">bot configuration table</a>, every config entry after <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_U.S._Roads/Wyoming/Popular_pages" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Roads/Wyoming/Popular pages">WikiProject U.S. Roads/Wyoming/Popular pages</a> is missing. Brings up questions:</li></ul>
@@ -2558,37 +2558,37 @@ Greetings, Community tech bot appears to be down (not running) since April, 2019
 <li>Any way to have Techbot update that Lists table?</li>
 <li>Should Lists page be abandoned/redirected to config page? Pageviews on List page are about 25 per day.</li></ol>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-10T20:22:00.000Z|Discussion_2"></span>These questions are beyond any decision that I can make on my own. Asking for more people to chime in with discussion. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JoeHebda" title="User:JoeHebda">JoeHebda</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoeHebda" title="User talk:JoeHebda">talk</a>) 20:22, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-10T20:22:00.000Z|Discussion_2&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-10T20:53:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-10T20:22:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T20:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JoeHebda&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-10T20:22:00.000Z|Discussion_2"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-10T20:22:00.000Z|Discussion_2"></span>These questions are beyond any decision that I can make on my own. Asking for more people to chime in with discussion. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JoeHebda" title="User:JoeHebda">JoeHebda</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoeHebda" title="User talk:JoeHebda">talk</a>) 20:22, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-10T20:22:00.000Z|Discussion_2&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-10T20:53:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-10T20:22:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T20:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JoeHebda&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-10T20:22:00.000Z|Discussion_2"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-10T20:53:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-10T20:22:00.000Z"></span>I had no idea about <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:POPT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:POPT">WP:POPT</a>. I don't think it worth the trouble to update that table. The list appears to be manually categorized. The only other information it has over <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Community_Tech_bot/Popular_pages" title="User:Community Tech bot/Popular pages">User:Community Tech bot/Popular pages</a> is the shortcuts, which aren't that important in my opinion. So yes, simply redirecting the list page seems sensible. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">MusikAnimal (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User talk:MusikAnimal (WMF)">talk</a>) 20:53, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-10T20:53:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-10T20:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T02:50:00.000Z|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-10T20:53:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T20:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal (WMF)&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-10T20:53:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-10T20:22:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T02:50:00.000Z|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-10T20:53:00.000Z"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8e/Icon_tools.svg/20px-Icon_tools.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8e/Icon_tools.svg/30px-Icon_tools.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8e/Icon_tools.svg/40px-Icon_tools.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="150" data-file-height="150"/> <b>Working</b> - Update table? or Redirect page? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JoeHebda" title="User:JoeHebda">JoeHebda</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoeHebda" title="User talk:JoeHebda">talk</a>) 02:50, 19 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T02:50:00.000Z|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-10T20:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-19T02:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JoeHebda&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T02:50:00.000Z|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-10T20:53:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-10T20:53:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-10T20:22:00.000Z"></span>I had no idea about <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:POPT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:POPT">WP:POPT</a>. I don't think it worth the trouble to update that table. The list appears to be manually categorized. The only other information it has over <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Community_Tech_bot/Popular_pages" title="User:Community Tech bot/Popular pages">User:Community Tech bot/Popular pages</a> is the shortcuts, which aren't that important in my opinion. So yes, simply redirecting the list page seems sensible. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">MusikAnimal (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User talk:MusikAnimal (WMF)">talk</a>) 20:53, 10 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-10T20:53:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-10T20:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T02:50:00.000Z|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-10T20:53:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-10T20:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-10T20:53:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-10T20:22:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T02:50:00.000Z|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-10T20:53:00.000Z"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8e/Icon_tools.svg/20px-Icon_tools.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8e/Icon_tools.svg/30px-Icon_tools.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8e/Icon_tools.svg/40px-Icon_tools.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="150" data-file-height="150"/> <b>Working</b> - Update table? or Redirect page? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JoeHebda" title="User:JoeHebda">JoeHebda</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoeHebda" title="User talk:JoeHebda">talk</a>) 02:50, 19 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T02:50:00.000Z|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-10T20:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-19T02:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JoeHebda&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T02:50:00.000Z|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-10T20:53:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h3><span class="mw-headline" id="Pageviews" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Pageviews|Not_running_\&quot;Community_tech_bot\&quot;_for_Popular_pages|2019-07-11T03:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T03:34:00.000Z|Pageviews&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:3,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Pageviews|Not_running_&quot;Community_tech_bot&quot;_for_Popular_pages|2019-07-11T03:34:00.000Z"></span>Pageviews<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Pageviews|Not_running_&quot;Community_tech_bot&quot;_for_Popular_pages|2019-07-11T03:34:00.000Z"></span></span></h3>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T03:34:00.000Z|Pageviews"></span>Greetings <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">User:MusikAnimal (WMF)</a> - Wonder if adding Pageviews to Popular pages would better show each WPs "Popular pages" activity? As an example, I added at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Chemistry/Popular_pages" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Chemistry/Popular pages">Wikipedia:WikiProject Chemistry/Popular pages</a>. Just spot-checking I've not found any WP with much activity. Maybe because of the bot not running since end of April? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JoeHebda" title="User:JoeHebda">JoeHebda</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoeHebda" title="User talk:JoeHebda">talk</a>) 03:34, 11 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T03:34:00.000Z|Pageviews&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:56:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T03:34:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-11T03:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JoeHebda&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T03:34:00.000Z|Pageviews"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T03:34:00.000Z|Pageviews"></span>Greetings <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">User:MusikAnimal (WMF)</a> - Wonder if adding Pageviews to Popular pages would better show each WPs "Popular pages" activity? As an example, I added at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Chemistry/Popular_pages" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Chemistry/Popular pages">Wikipedia:WikiProject Chemistry/Popular pages</a>. Just spot-checking I've not found any WP with much activity. Maybe because of the bot not running since end of April? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JoeHebda" title="User:JoeHebda">JoeHebda</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoeHebda" title="User talk:JoeHebda">talk</a>) 03:34, 11 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T03:34:00.000Z|Pageviews&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:56:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T03:34:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-11T03:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JoeHebda&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T03:34:00.000Z|Pageviews"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:56:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T03:34:00.000Z"></span>If you mean no one is checking these reports, you're mostly right. A few months ago I did some spring cleaning and removed a bunch of apparently inactive WikiProjects from the config. There are probably more that we could remove. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">MusikAnimal (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User talk:MusikAnimal (WMF)">talk</a>) 23:56, 11 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:56:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T03:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T02:53:00.000Z|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:56:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-11T23:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal (WMF)&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:56:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T03:34:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T02:53:00.000Z|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:56:00.000Z"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8e/Icon_tools.svg/20px-Icon_tools.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8e/Icon_tools.svg/30px-Icon_tools.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8e/Icon_tools.svg/40px-Icon_tools.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="150" data-file-height="150"/> <b>Working</b> - Add Pageviews to Bot-generated popular pages? Wait until July process is done. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JoeHebda" title="User:JoeHebda">JoeHebda</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoeHebda" title="User talk:JoeHebda">talk</a>) 02:53, 19 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T02:53:00.000Z|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-19T02:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JoeHebda&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T02:53:00.000Z|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:56:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:56:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T03:34:00.000Z"></span>If you mean no one is checking these reports, you're mostly right. A few months ago I did some spring cleaning and removed a bunch of apparently inactive WikiProjects from the config. There are probably more that we could remove. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">MusikAnimal (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User talk:MusikAnimal (WMF)">talk</a>) 23:56, 11 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:56:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T03:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T02:53:00.000Z|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:56:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-11T23:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:56:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T03:34:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T02:53:00.000Z|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:56:00.000Z"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8e/Icon_tools.svg/20px-Icon_tools.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8e/Icon_tools.svg/30px-Icon_tools.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8e/Icon_tools.svg/40px-Icon_tools.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="150" data-file-height="150"/> <b>Working</b> - Add Pageviews to Bot-generated popular pages? Wait until July process is done. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JoeHebda" title="User:JoeHebda">JoeHebda</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoeHebda" title="User talk:JoeHebda">talk</a>) 02:53, 19 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T02:53:00.000Z|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-19T02:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JoeHebda&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T02:53:00.000Z|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:56:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h3><span class="mw-headline" id="Bot_posting_to_WP_talk_pages" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Bot_posting_to_WP_talk_pages|Not_running_\&quot;Community_tech_bot\&quot;_for_Popular_pages|2019-07-11T03:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T03:40:00.000Z|Bot_posting_to_WP_talk_pages&quot;,&quot;h|Discussion:|Bot_posting_to_WP_talk_pages|2019-07-19T02:57:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:3,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Bot_posting_to_WP_talk_pages|Not_running_&quot;Community_tech_bot&quot;_for_Popular_pages|2019-07-11T03:40:00.000Z"></span>Bot posting to WP talk pages<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Bot_posting_to_WP_talk_pages|Not_running_&quot;Community_tech_bot&quot;_for_Popular_pages|2019-07-11T03:40:00.000Z"></span></span></h3>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T03:40:00.000Z|Bot_posting_to_WP_talk_pages"></span>Hi <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">User:MusikAnimal (WMF)</a> - When the bot updates <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Community_Tech_bot/Popular_pages" title="User:Community Tech bot/Popular pages">User:Community Tech bot/Popular pages</a>, could it also post a notice at the WikiProject's talk page? This would increase awareness of Popular pages &amp; perhaps encourage usage. Regards, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JoeHebda" title="User:JoeHebda">JoeHebda</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoeHebda" title="User talk:JoeHebda">talk</a>) 03:40, 11 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T03:40:00.000Z|Bot_posting_to_WP_talk_pages&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:58:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T03:40:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-11T03:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JoeHebda&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T03:40:00.000Z|Bot_posting_to_WP_talk_pages"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T03:40:00.000Z|Bot_posting_to_WP_talk_pages"></span>Hi <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">User:MusikAnimal (WMF)</a> - When the bot updates <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Community_Tech_bot/Popular_pages" title="User:Community Tech bot/Popular pages">User:Community Tech bot/Popular pages</a>, could it also post a notice at the WikiProject's talk page? This would increase awareness of Popular pages &amp; perhaps encourage usage. Regards, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JoeHebda" title="User:JoeHebda">JoeHebda</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoeHebda" title="User talk:JoeHebda">talk</a>) 03:40, 11 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T03:40:00.000Z|Bot_posting_to_WP_talk_pages&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:58:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T03:40:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-11T03:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JoeHebda&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T03:40:00.000Z|Bot_posting_to_WP_talk_pages"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:58:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T03:40:00.000Z"></span>We certainly can, though I'd like to hear input from more people. Many WP talk pages get a lot of spam, and some already have the popular pages report transcluded on the main WP page. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">MusikAnimal (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User talk:MusikAnimal (WMF)">talk</a>) 23:58, 11 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:58:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T03:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-11T23:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal (WMF)&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:58:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T03:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:58:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T03:40:00.000Z"></span>We certainly can, though I'd like to hear input from more people. Many WP talk pages get a lot of spam, and some already have the popular pages report transcluded on the main WP page. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">MusikAnimal (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User talk:MusikAnimal (WMF)">talk</a>) 23:58, 11 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:58:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T03:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-11T23:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:58:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T03:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T02:57:00.000Z|Discussion:"></span>Question: Post a time-stamped completion message from Community Tech bot, onto each Wikiproject's Talk page? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JoeHebda" title="User:JoeHebda">JoeHebda</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoeHebda" title="User talk:JoeHebda">talk</a>) 02:57, 19 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T02:57:00.000Z|Discussion:&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-19T02:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JoeHebda&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T02:57:00.000Z|Discussion:"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T02:57:00.000Z|Discussion:"></span>Question: Post a time-stamped completion message from Community Tech bot, onto each Wikiproject's Talk page? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JoeHebda" title="User:JoeHebda">JoeHebda</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoeHebda" title="User talk:JoeHebda">talk</a>) 02:57, 19 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T02:57:00.000Z|Discussion:&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-19T02:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JoeHebda&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T02:57:00.000Z|Discussion:"></span>
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 <h3><span class="mw-headline" id="Bot_issue_with_WP_Paintball" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Bot_issue_with_WP_Paintball|Not_running_\&quot;Community_tech_bot\&quot;_for_Popular_pages|2019-07-11T14:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T14:03:00.000Z|Bot_issue_with_WP_Paintball&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:3,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Bot_issue_with_WP_Paintball|Not_running_&quot;Community_tech_bot&quot;_for_Popular_pages|2019-07-11T14:03:00.000Z"></span>Bot issue with WP Paintball<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Bot_issue_with_WP_Paintball|Not_running_&quot;Community_tech_bot&quot;_for_Popular_pages|2019-07-11T14:03:00.000Z"></span></span></h3>
 <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T14:03:00.000Z|Bot_issue_with_WP_Paintball"></span>Good morning <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">User:MusikAnimal (WMF)</a> - Looking at logs for "Community Tech bot" starting at 01:14, 11 July 2019 and continuing until 02:01, 11 July 2019, the bot processed for <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Paintball/Popular_pages" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Paintball/Popular pages">Wikipedia:WikiProject Paintball/Popular pages</a> eleven times. Wondering why?</li>
 <li>Also noticed that since <i>Revision as of 01:33, 11 July 2019</i> the bot at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Community_Tech_bot/Popular_pages" title="User:Community Tech bot/Popular pages">User:Community Tech bot/Popular pages</a> has stopped updating WPs?</li>
-<li>Sorry for these questions - similar to problems when I was involved with "WP 1.0 bot" for article assessment tables. Mostly caused by WPs not setup correctly, or Talk page coding errors causing the bot to respond incorrectly. Regards, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JoeHebda" title="User:JoeHebda">JoeHebda</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoeHebda" title="User talk:JoeHebda">talk</a>) 14:03, 11 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T14:03:00.000Z|Bot_issue_with_WP_Paintball&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:53:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T14:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:53:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T14:03:00.000Z|1&quot;,&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:53:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T14:03:00.000Z|2&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-11T14:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JoeHebda&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T14:03:00.000Z|Bot_issue_with_WP_Paintball"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:53:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T14:03:00.000Z"></span>These were test edits. I chose that report because apparently no one reads it. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">MusikAnimal (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User talk:MusikAnimal (WMF)">talk</a>) 23:53, 11 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:53:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T14:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-11T23:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal (WMF)&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:53:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T14:03:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:53:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T14:03:00.000Z|1"></span>Normally the bot only updates that page after it's finished going through all WPs. I've been manually updating it (via script), just to keep track of where we are. I'm going to make the bot update it regularly on its own. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">MusikAnimal (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User talk:MusikAnimal (WMF)">talk</a>) 23:53, 11 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:53:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T14:03:00.000Z|1&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-11T23:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal (WMF)&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:53:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T14:03:00.000Z|1"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:53:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T14:03:00.000Z|2"></span>No worries :) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">MusikAnimal (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User talk:MusikAnimal (WMF)">talk</a>) 23:53, 11 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:53:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T14:03:00.000Z|2&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-11T23:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal (WMF)&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:53:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T14:03:00.000Z|2"></span></dd></dl></li></ul>
+<li>Sorry for these questions - similar to problems when I was involved with "WP 1.0 bot" for article assessment tables. Mostly caused by WPs not setup correctly, or Talk page coding errors causing the bot to respond incorrectly. Regards, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JoeHebda" title="User:JoeHebda">JoeHebda</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoeHebda" title="User talk:JoeHebda">talk</a>) 14:03, 11 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T14:03:00.000Z|Bot_issue_with_WP_Paintball&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:53:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T14:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:53:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T14:03:00.000Z|1&quot;,&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:53:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T14:03:00.000Z|2&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-11T14:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JoeHebda&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T14:03:00.000Z|Bot_issue_with_WP_Paintball"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:53:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T14:03:00.000Z"></span>These were test edits. I chose that report because apparently no one reads it. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">MusikAnimal (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User talk:MusikAnimal (WMF)">talk</a>) 23:53, 11 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:53:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T14:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-11T23:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:53:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T14:03:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:53:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T14:03:00.000Z|1"></span>Normally the bot only updates that page after it's finished going through all WPs. I've been manually updating it (via script), just to keep track of where we are. I'm going to make the bot update it regularly on its own. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">MusikAnimal (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User talk:MusikAnimal (WMF)">talk</a>) 23:53, 11 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:53:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T14:03:00.000Z|1&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-11T23:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:53:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T14:03:00.000Z|1"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:53:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T14:03:00.000Z|2"></span>No worries :) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">MusikAnimal (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User talk:MusikAnimal (WMF)">talk</a>) 23:53, 11 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:53:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T14:03:00.000Z|2&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-11T23:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-11T23:53:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-11T14:03:00.000Z|2"></span></dd></dl></li></ul>
 <h3><span class="mw-headline" id="Is_the_bot_running_-_July_14th" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Is_the_bot_running_-_July_14th|Not_running_\&quot;Community_tech_bot\&quot;_for_Popular_pages|2019-07-14T10:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-14T10:19:00.000Z|Is_the_bot_running_-_July_14th&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:3,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Is_the_bot_running_-_July_14th|Not_running_&quot;Community_tech_bot&quot;_for_Popular_pages|2019-07-14T10:19:00.000Z"></span>Is the bot running - July 14th<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Is_the_bot_running_-_July_14th|Not_running_&quot;Community_tech_bot&quot;_for_Popular_pages|2019-07-14T10:19:00.000Z"></span></span></h3>
-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-14T10:19:00.000Z|Is_the_bot_running_-_July_14th"></span>Hi <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">User:MusikAnimal (WMF)</a> - checking the bot, it has not posted any updates for "Popular pages" WPs since <mark>12:08, 13 July 2019</mark>. Has it been paused, or just stopped on it's own because of an error? Regards, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JoeHebda" title="User:JoeHebda">JoeHebda</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoeHebda" title="User talk:JoeHebda">talk</a>) 10:19, 14 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-14T10:19:00.000Z|Is_the_bot_running_-_July_14th&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-15T16:58:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-14T10:19:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-14T10:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JoeHebda&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-14T10:19:00.000Z|Is_the_bot_running_-_July_14th"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-15T16:58:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-14T10:19:00.000Z"></span>It went down over the weekend, apparently. It's back up and running now. Rest assured I'm monitoring and we'll have all reports finished in the next week or so. There's a new, much faster version of the bot that I'm almost done with, so hopefully next month we won't see any problems. Best, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">MusikAnimal (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User talk:MusikAnimal (WMF)">talk</a>) 16:58, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-15T16:58:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-14T10:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-15T17:41:00.000Z|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-15T16:58:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T16:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal (WMF)&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-15T16:58:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-14T10:19:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-15T17:41:00.000Z|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-15T16:58:00.000Z"></span>Thanks <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">User:MusikAnimal (WMF)</a> for the update. Wondering if the number of popular pages for an individual wikiproject makes much of a difference? For example, would the bot process any faster if the WP asked for only top 100 vs. to 1,000? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JoeHebda" title="User:JoeHebda">JoeHebda</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoeHebda" title="User talk:JoeHebda">talk</a>) 17:41, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-15T17:41:00.000Z|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-15T16:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-15T23:14:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-15T17:41:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T17:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JoeHebda&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-15T17:41:00.000Z|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-15T16:58:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-15T23:14:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-15T17:41:00.000Z"></span>Unfortunately no. It's the size of the WikiProject itself that matters; the bot must go through every mainspace page, along with all of their redirects. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">MusikAnimal (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User talk:MusikAnimal (WMF)">talk</a>) 23:14, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-15T23:14:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-15T17:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T23:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal (WMF)&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-15T23:14:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-15T17:41:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li></ul>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-14T10:19:00.000Z|Is_the_bot_running_-_July_14th"></span>Hi <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">User:MusikAnimal (WMF)</a> - checking the bot, it has not posted any updates for "Popular pages" WPs since <mark>12:08, 13 July 2019</mark>. Has it been paused, or just stopped on it's own because of an error? Regards, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JoeHebda" title="User:JoeHebda">JoeHebda</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoeHebda" title="User talk:JoeHebda">talk</a>) 10:19, 14 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-14T10:19:00.000Z|Is_the_bot_running_-_July_14th&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-15T16:58:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-14T10:19:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-14T10:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JoeHebda&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-14T10:19:00.000Z|Is_the_bot_running_-_July_14th"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-15T16:58:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-14T10:19:00.000Z"></span>It went down over the weekend, apparently. It's back up and running now. Rest assured I'm monitoring and we'll have all reports finished in the next week or so. There's a new, much faster version of the bot that I'm almost done with, so hopefully next month we won't see any problems. Best, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">MusikAnimal (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User talk:MusikAnimal (WMF)">talk</a>) 16:58, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-15T16:58:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-14T10:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-15T17:41:00.000Z|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-15T16:58:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T16:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-15T16:58:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-14T10:19:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-15T17:41:00.000Z|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-15T16:58:00.000Z"></span>Thanks <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">User:MusikAnimal (WMF)</a> for the update. Wondering if the number of popular pages for an individual wikiproject makes much of a difference? For example, would the bot process any faster if the WP asked for only top 100 vs. to 1,000? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JoeHebda" title="User:JoeHebda">JoeHebda</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoeHebda" title="User talk:JoeHebda">talk</a>) 17:41, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-15T17:41:00.000Z|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-15T16:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-15T23:14:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-15T17:41:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T17:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JoeHebda&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-15T17:41:00.000Z|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-15T16:58:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-15T23:14:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-15T17:41:00.000Z"></span>Unfortunately no. It's the size of the WikiProject itself that matters; the bot must go through every mainspace page, along with all of their redirects. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">MusikAnimal (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User talk:MusikAnimal (WMF)">talk</a>) 23:14, 15 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-15T23:14:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-15T17:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-15T23:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-15T23:14:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-15T17:41:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li></ul>
 <h3><span class="mw-headline" id="Version_0.7_Popular_pages_question" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Version_0.7_Popular_pages_question|Not_running_\&quot;Community_tech_bot\&quot;_for_Popular_pages|2019-07-17T13:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-17T13:19:00.000Z|Version_0.7_Popular_pages_question&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:3,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Version_0.7_Popular_pages_question|Not_running_&quot;Community_tech_bot&quot;_for_Popular_pages|2019-07-17T13:19:00.000Z"></span>Version 0.7 Popular pages question<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Version_0.7_Popular_pages_question|Not_running_&quot;Community_tech_bot&quot;_for_Popular_pages|2019-07-17T13:19:00.000Z"></span></span></h3>
-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-17T13:19:00.000Z|Version_0.7_Popular_pages_question"></span>Hi <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">User:MusikAnimal (WMF)</a> - This morning I noticed <i><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Version_0.7/Popular_pages" title="Wikipedia:Version 0.7/Popular pages">Wikipedia:Version 0.7/Popular pages</a></i>  ran at 06:15, 17 July 2019 for about 5 minutes. After some investigation, I'm wondering if this "WP" can be made Inactive? Pageviews are very low. In the grand scheme of things, that runtime might not be much. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JoeHebda" title="User:JoeHebda">JoeHebda</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoeHebda" title="User talk:JoeHebda">talk</a>) 13:19, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-17T13:19:00.000Z|Version_0.7_Popular_pages_question&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-17T14:38:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-17T13:19:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-17T13:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JoeHebda&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-17T13:19:00.000Z|Version_0.7_Popular_pages_question"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-17T14:38:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-17T13:19:00.000Z"></span>It is about 31,000 articles, which isn't very many. It's up to the community if they want to remove it from the bot config. I've mostly only been removing WPs that are explicitly marked as inactive or defunct. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">MusikAnimal (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User talk:MusikAnimal (WMF)">talk</a>) 14:38, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-17T14:38:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-17T13:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-17T14:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal (WMF)&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-17T14:38:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-17T13:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></li></ul>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-17T13:19:00.000Z|Version_0.7_Popular_pages_question"></span>Hi <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">User:MusikAnimal (WMF)</a> - This morning I noticed <i><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Version_0.7/Popular_pages" title="Wikipedia:Version 0.7/Popular pages">Wikipedia:Version 0.7/Popular pages</a></i>  ran at 06:15, 17 July 2019 for about 5 minutes. After some investigation, I'm wondering if this "WP" can be made Inactive? Pageviews are very low. In the grand scheme of things, that runtime might not be much. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JoeHebda" title="User:JoeHebda">JoeHebda</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoeHebda" title="User talk:JoeHebda">talk</a>) 13:19, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-17T13:19:00.000Z|Version_0.7_Popular_pages_question&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-17T14:38:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-17T13:19:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-17T13:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JoeHebda&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-17T13:19:00.000Z|Version_0.7_Popular_pages_question"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-17T14:38:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-17T13:19:00.000Z"></span>It is about 31,000 articles, which isn't very many. It's up to the community if they want to remove it from the bot config. I've mostly only been removing WPs that are explicitly marked as inactive or defunct. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">MusikAnimal (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User talk:MusikAnimal (WMF)">talk</a>) 14:38, 17 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-17T14:38:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-17T13:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-17T14:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-17T14:38:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-17T13:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></li></ul>
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 <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T03:12:00.000Z|Bot_completion_errors?"></span>Hi <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">User:MusikAnimal (WMF)</a> - Community Tech bot "Update report" posted over 10 times without updating any WPs in the table. From 18:01, 18 July 2019 to 21:31, 18 July 2019.</li>
 <li>There are several WikiProjects that were missed (according to the table)
@@ -2596,26 +2596,26 @@ Greetings, Community tech bot appears to be down (not running) since April, 2019
 <li>WikiProject Software/Free Software/Popular pages - 2019-03-15</li>
 <li>WikiProject Las Vegas/Popular pages - 2019-04-08</li>
 <li>WikiProject Water supply and sanitation by country/Popular pages - 2019-04-26</li></ul></li></ul>
-<p>Regards, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JoeHebda" title="User:JoeHebda">JoeHebda</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoeHebda" title="User talk:JoeHebda">talk</a>) 03:12, 19 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T03:12:00.000Z|Bot_completion_errors?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-22T22:08:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T03:12:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-19T03:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JoeHebda&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T03:12:00.000Z|Bot_completion_errors?"></span>
+<p>Regards, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JoeHebda" title="User:JoeHebda">JoeHebda</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoeHebda" title="User talk:JoeHebda">talk</a>) 03:12, 19 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T03:12:00.000Z|Bot_completion_errors?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-22T22:08:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T03:12:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-19T03:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JoeHebda&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T03:12:00.000Z|Bot_completion_errors?"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-22T22:08:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T03:12:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for alerting us! Eastern Orthodox Church was broken because of a recent rename. I've inquired about this on the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/907314746" title="Special:Diff/907314746">talk page</a>. Free Software has been updated. The other two WikiProjects are now inactive, so I've removed them from the config. Best, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">MusikAnimal (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User talk:MusikAnimal (WMF)">talk</a>) 22:08, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-22T22:08:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T03:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T22:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal (WMF)&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-22T22:08:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T03:12:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-22T22:08:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T03:12:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for alerting us! Eastern Orthodox Church was broken because of a recent rename. I've inquired about this on the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/907314746" title="Special:Diff/907314746">talk page</a>. Free Software has been updated. The other two WikiProjects are now inactive, so I've removed them from the config. Best, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">MusikAnimal (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User talk:MusikAnimal (WMF)">talk</a>) 22:08, 22 July 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-22T22:08:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T03:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-07-22T22:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal (WMF)|2019-07-22T22:08:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-07-19T03:12:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JoeHebda|2019-08-17T17:44:00.000Z|Template_with_right_side_overflow,_a_temp_fix?"></span>Greetings, for Template <i>{{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Patriarchs_of_Constantinople" title="Template:Patriarchs of Constantinople">Patriarchs of Constantinople</a>}}</i> the wikilinks on right side were spilling beyond the right margin. If I changed my browser to 80-percent (very small text) the problem would go away. To get 100-percent size text, I added a blank image (<i>|image= [[image:Pix.gif|right|10px]]</i>). This appears to have solved the issue. Wondering if this a temporary solution or is there a better way for this navbox? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JoeHebda" title="User:JoeHebda">JoeHebda</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoeHebda" title="User talk:JoeHebda">talk</a>) 17:44, 17 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-08-17T17:44:00.000Z|Template_with_right_side_overflow,_a_temp_fix?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-17T21:27:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-08-17T17:44:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-17T17:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JoeHebda&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JoeHebda|2019-08-17T17:44:00.000Z|Template_with_right_side_overflow,_a_temp_fix?"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JoeHebda|2019-08-17T17:44:00.000Z|Template_with_right_side_overflow,_a_temp_fix?"></span>Greetings, for Template <i>{{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Patriarchs_of_Constantinople" title="Template:Patriarchs of Constantinople">Patriarchs of Constantinople</a>}}</i> the wikilinks on right side were spilling beyond the right margin. If I changed my browser to 80-percent (very small text) the problem would go away. To get 100-percent size text, I added a blank image (<i>|image= [[image:Pix.gif|right|10px]]</i>). This appears to have solved the issue. Wondering if this a temporary solution or is there a better way for this navbox? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JoeHebda" title="User:JoeHebda">JoeHebda</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoeHebda" title="User talk:JoeHebda">talk</a>) 17:44, 17 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-08-17T17:44:00.000Z|Template_with_right_side_overflow,_a_temp_fix?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-17T21:27:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-08-17T17:44:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-17T17:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JoeHebda&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JoeHebda|2019-08-17T17:44:00.000Z|Template_with_right_side_overflow,_a_temp_fix?"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-17T21:27:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-08-17T17:44:00.000Z"></span>{{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Navbox" title="Template:Navbox">Navbox</a>}} adds the <code>nowraplinks</code> class to the table. That can cause overflow problems if the title includes a long link text, even when it looks like there should be room for it. I see the issue you describe at some zoom levels both before and after your solution although it does work at more zoom levels after. I think the override <code>|titleclass = wraplinks</code> is a better solution. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 21:27, 17 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-17T21:27:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-08-17T17:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-08-18T13:18:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-17T21:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-17T21:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-17T21:27:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-08-17T17:44:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JoeHebda|2019-08-18T13:18:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-17T21:27:00.000Z"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/27px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/36px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> <b>Done</b> - Thanks <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> for the <i>titleclass</i> solution. Removing the right side image adds more Navbox space for the links. I've changed above template and a few large templates. Regards, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JoeHebda" title="User:JoeHebda">JoeHebda</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoeHebda" title="User talk:JoeHebda">talk</a>) 13:18, 18 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-08-18T13:18:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-17T21:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-18T13:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JoeHebda&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JoeHebda|2019-08-18T13:18:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-17T21:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-17T21:27:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-08-17T17:44:00.000Z"></span>{{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Navbox" title="Template:Navbox">Navbox</a>}} adds the <code>nowraplinks</code> class to the table. That can cause overflow problems if the title includes a long link text, even when it looks like there should be room for it. I see the issue you describe at some zoom levels both before and after your solution although it does work at more zoom levels after. I think the override <code>|titleclass = wraplinks</code> is a better solution. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 21:27, 17 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-17T21:27:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-08-17T17:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-08-18T13:18:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-17T21:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-17T21:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-17T21:27:00.000Z|JoeHebda|2019-08-17T17:44:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JoeHebda|2019-08-18T13:18:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-17T21:27:00.000Z"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/27px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/36px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> <b>Done</b> - Thanks <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> for the <i>titleclass</i> solution. Removing the right side image adds more Navbox space for the links. I've changed above template and a few large templates. Regards, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JoeHebda" title="User:JoeHebda">JoeHebda</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JoeHebda" title="User talk:JoeHebda">talk</a>) 13:18, 18 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JoeHebda|2019-08-18T13:18:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-17T21:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-18T13:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JoeHebda&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JoeHebda|2019-08-18T13:18:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-17T21:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Module_that_can_handle_MW_timestamps" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Module_that_can_handle_MW_timestamps|2019-08-18T15:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Huji|2019-08-18T15:17:00.000Z|Module_that_can_handle_MW_timestamps&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Module_that_can_handle_MW_timestamps|2019-08-18T15:17:00.000Z"></span>Module that can handle MW timestamps<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Module_that_can_handle_MW_timestamps|2019-08-18T15:17:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Huji|2019-08-18T15:17:00.000Z|Module_that_can_handle_MW_timestamps"></span>Hi all. I am curious if there exists a module that can take a MW timestamp (such as 20190818143148) as an input and return a formatted string (such as "18 Aug 2019, 14:31") as the output. Please {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Ping" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Ping">ping</a>}} me when responding <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Huji" title="User:Huji">huji</a>—<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Huji" title="User talk:Huji"><small>TALK</small></a> 15:17, 18 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Huji|2019-08-18T15:17:00.000Z|Module_that_can_handle_MW_timestamps&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-18T15:28:00.000Z|Huji|2019-08-18T15:17:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-18T15:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Huji&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Huji|2019-08-18T15:17:00.000Z|Module_that_can_handle_MW_timestamps"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Huji|2019-08-18T15:17:00.000Z|Module_that_can_handle_MW_timestamps"></span>Hi all. I am curious if there exists a module that can take a MW timestamp (such as 20190818143148) as an input and return a formatted string (such as "18 Aug 2019, 14:31") as the output. Please {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Ping" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Ping">ping</a>}} me when responding <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Huji" title="User:Huji">huji</a>—<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Huji" title="User talk:Huji"><small>TALK</small></a> 15:17, 18 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Huji|2019-08-18T15:17:00.000Z|Module_that_can_handle_MW_timestamps&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-18T15:28:00.000Z|Huji|2019-08-18T15:17:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-18T15:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Huji&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Huji|2019-08-18T15:17:00.000Z|Module_that_can_handle_MW_timestamps"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Izno|2019-08-18T15:28:00.000Z|Huji|2019-08-18T15:17:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Huji" title="User:Huji">Huji</a>:</span> Does <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Scribunto/Lua_reference_manual#os.time" class="extiw" title="mediawikiwiki:Extension:Scribunto/Lua reference manual">os.time</a> work for you? --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 15:28, 18 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-18T15:28:00.000Z|Huji|2019-08-18T15:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Huji|2019-08-18T18:53:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-18T15:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Huji|2019-08-18T19:34:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-18T15:28:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-18T15:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Izno&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Izno|2019-08-18T15:28:00.000Z|Huji|2019-08-18T15:17:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Huji|2019-08-18T18:53:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-18T15:28:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a>:</span> it probably would; but instead of writing a new module (which woudl obviously use os.time), I was wondering if I could use an existing one. Lua is not my strong suit after all. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Huji" title="User:Huji">huji</a>—<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Huji" title="User talk:Huji"><small>TALK</small></a> 18:53, 18 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Huji|2019-08-18T18:53:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-18T15:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-18T18:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Huji&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Huji|2019-08-18T18:53:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-18T15:28:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Huji|2019-08-18T19:34:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-18T15:28:00.000Z"></span>Turns out the <code>#time</code> parser function accepts timestamps as an input. I will use that. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Huji" title="User:Huji">huji</a>—<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Huji" title="User talk:Huji"><small>TALK</small></a> 19:34, 18 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Huji|2019-08-18T19:34:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-18T15:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-18T19:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Huji&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Huji|2019-08-18T19:34:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-18T15:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Izno|2019-08-18T15:28:00.000Z|Huji|2019-08-18T15:17:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Huji" title="User:Huji">Huji</a>:</span> Does <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Scribunto/Lua_reference_manual#os.time" class="extiw" title="mediawikiwiki:Extension:Scribunto/Lua reference manual">os.time</a> work for you? --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 15:28, 18 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-18T15:28:00.000Z|Huji|2019-08-18T15:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Huji|2019-08-18T18:53:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-18T15:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Huji|2019-08-18T19:34:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-18T15:28:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-18T15:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Izno&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Izno|2019-08-18T15:28:00.000Z|Huji|2019-08-18T15:17:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Huji|2019-08-18T18:53:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-18T15:28:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a>:</span> it probably would; but instead of writing a new module (which woudl obviously use os.time), I was wondering if I could use an existing one. Lua is not my strong suit after all. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Huji" title="User:Huji">huji</a>—<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Huji" title="User talk:Huji"><small>TALK</small></a> 18:53, 18 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Huji|2019-08-18T18:53:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-18T15:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-18T18:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Huji&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Huji|2019-08-18T18:53:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-18T15:28:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Huji|2019-08-18T19:34:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-18T15:28:00.000Z"></span>Turns out the <code>#time</code> parser function accepts timestamps as an input. I will use that. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Huji" title="User:Huji">huji</a>—<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Huji" title="User talk:Huji"><small>TALK</small></a> 19:34, 18 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Huji|2019-08-18T19:34:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-18T15:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-18T19:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Huji&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Huji|2019-08-18T19:34:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-18T15:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Getting_IP-specific_or_different-range_block_logs_for_an_IP" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Getting_IP-specific_or_different-range_block_logs_for_an_IP|2019-08-18T12:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DMacks|2019-08-18T12:10:00.000Z|Getting_IP-specific_or_different-range_block_logs_for_an_IP&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Getting_IP-specific_or_different-range_block_logs_for_an_IP|2019-08-18T12:10:00.000Z"></span>Getting IP-specific or different-range block logs for an IP<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Getting_IP-specific_or_different-range_block_logs_for_an_IP|2019-08-18T12:10:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DMacks|2019-08-18T12:10:00.000Z|Getting_IP-specific_or_different-range_block_logs_for_an_IP"></span>When an account is blocked for a second (or more) time, the pink box that lists the current block in Special:Contributions has a "View full log" link to see the previous block activity. If the account is an anon IP and the block is a rangeblock, then that link is for that same range (see <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/2601:586:400:833A:FD78:71BE:47B5:5110" title="Special:Contributions/2601:586:400:833A:FD78:71BE:47B5:5110">Special:Contributions/2601:586:400:833A:FD78:71BE:47B5:5110</a>, who is covered by a /64 block, and its "<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&amp;page=User%3A2601%3A586%3A400%3A833A%3A0%3A0%3A0%3A0%2F64&amp;type=block">View ful log</a>"). Using the "block log" link near the top of the page, I can see there is also historical block activity related to that specific IP (<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&amp;page=User%3A2601%3A586%3A400%3A833A%3AFD78%3A71BE%3A47B5%3A5110">[46]</a>). However, there is no way to find the historical rangeblock info once it expires unless one knows to look for the /64 itself (i.e., that it was a /64 rather than some other range, and that there might have also been other size ranges). Is there a way to look up <i>all</i> previous blocks that apply to a certain IP or small range, including all larger sizes? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DMacks" title="User:DMacks">DMacks</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DMacks" title="User talk:DMacks">talk</a>) 12:10, 18 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DMacks|2019-08-18T12:10:00.000Z|Getting_IP-specific_or_different-range_block_logs_for_an_IP&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|JJMC89|2019-08-18T22:10:00.000Z|DMacks|2019-08-18T12:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-19T02:45:00.000Z|DMacks|2019-08-18T12:10:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-18T12:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DMacks&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DMacks|2019-08-18T12:10:00.000Z|Getting_IP-specific_or_different-range_block_logs_for_an_IP"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DMacks|2019-08-18T12:10:00.000Z|Getting_IP-specific_or_different-range_block_logs_for_an_IP"></span>When an account is blocked for a second (or more) time, the pink box that lists the current block in Special:Contributions has a "View full log" link to see the previous block activity. If the account is an anon IP and the block is a rangeblock, then that link is for that same range (see <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/2601:586:400:833A:FD78:71BE:47B5:5110" title="Special:Contributions/2601:586:400:833A:FD78:71BE:47B5:5110">Special:Contributions/2601:586:400:833A:FD78:71BE:47B5:5110</a>, who is covered by a /64 block, and its "<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&amp;page=User%3A2601%3A586%3A400%3A833A%3A0%3A0%3A0%3A0%2F64&amp;type=block">View ful log</a>"). Using the "block log" link near the top of the page, I can see there is also historical block activity related to that specific IP (<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&amp;page=User%3A2601%3A586%3A400%3A833A%3AFD78%3A71BE%3A47B5%3A5110">[46]</a>). However, there is no way to find the historical rangeblock info once it expires unless one knows to look for the /64 itself (i.e., that it was a /64 rather than some other range, and that there might have also been other size ranges). Is there a way to look up <i>all</i> previous blocks that apply to a certain IP or small range, including all larger sizes? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DMacks" title="User:DMacks">DMacks</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DMacks" title="User talk:DMacks">talk</a>) 12:10, 18 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DMacks|2019-08-18T12:10:00.000Z|Getting_IP-specific_or_different-range_block_logs_for_an_IP&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|JJMC89|2019-08-18T22:10:00.000Z|DMacks|2019-08-18T12:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-19T02:45:00.000Z|DMacks|2019-08-18T12:10:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-18T12:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DMacks&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DMacks|2019-08-18T12:10:00.000Z|Getting_IP-specific_or_different-range_block_logs_for_an_IP"></span>
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-<dl><dd><a href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/rangeblockfinder" class="extiw" title="toolforge:rangeblockfinder"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JJMC89|2019-08-18T22:10:00.000Z|DMacks|2019-08-18T12:10:00.000Z"></span>toolforge:rangeblockfinder</a> works for finding range blocks for an IPv4. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JJMC89" title="User:JJMC89">JJMC89</a> <small>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JJMC89" title="User talk:JJMC89">T</a><b>·</b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/JJMC89" title="Special:Contributions/JJMC89">C</a>)</small> 22:10, 18 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JJMC89|2019-08-18T22:10:00.000Z|DMacks|2019-08-18T12:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-18T22:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JJMC89&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JJMC89|2019-08-18T22:10:00.000Z|DMacks|2019-08-18T12:10:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-19T02:45:00.000Z|DMacks|2019-08-18T12:10:00.000Z"></span>This is <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146628" class="extiw" title="phab:T146628">phab:T146628</a> <span style="font-family:sans-serif">— <span style="font-weight:bold"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal" title="User:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal" title="User talk:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:green">talk</span></a></sup></span></span> 02:45, 19 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-19T02:45:00.000Z|DMacks|2019-08-18T12:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DMacks|2019-08-19T03:09:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-08-19T02:45:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-19T02:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-19T02:45:00.000Z|DMacks|2019-08-18T12:10:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DMacks|2019-08-19T03:09:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-08-19T02:45:00.000Z"></span>Thanks! That seems to be going in the opposite direction (subranges of given range) than I want (superset-ranges of given), but I added a note about this variation there. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DMacks" title="User:DMacks">DMacks</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DMacks" title="User talk:DMacks">talk</a>) 03:09, 19 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DMacks|2019-08-19T03:09:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-08-19T02:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-19T03:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DMacks&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DMacks|2019-08-19T03:09:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-08-19T02:45:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><a href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/rangeblockfinder" class="extiw" title="toolforge:rangeblockfinder"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|JJMC89|2019-08-18T22:10:00.000Z|DMacks|2019-08-18T12:10:00.000Z"></span>toolforge:rangeblockfinder</a> works for finding range blocks for an IPv4. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JJMC89" title="User:JJMC89">JJMC89</a> <small>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JJMC89" title="User talk:JJMC89">T</a><b>·</b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/JJMC89" title="Special:Contributions/JJMC89">C</a>)</small> 22:10, 18 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|JJMC89|2019-08-18T22:10:00.000Z|DMacks|2019-08-18T12:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-18T22:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;JJMC89&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|JJMC89|2019-08-18T22:10:00.000Z|DMacks|2019-08-18T12:10:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-19T02:45:00.000Z|DMacks|2019-08-18T12:10:00.000Z"></span>This is <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146628" class="extiw" title="phab:T146628">phab:T146628</a> <span style="font-family:sans-serif">— <span style="font-weight:bold"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal" title="User:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal" title="User talk:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:green">talk</span></a></sup></span></span> 02:45, 19 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-19T02:45:00.000Z|DMacks|2019-08-18T12:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DMacks|2019-08-19T03:09:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-08-19T02:45:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-19T02:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-19T02:45:00.000Z|DMacks|2019-08-18T12:10:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DMacks|2019-08-19T03:09:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-08-19T02:45:00.000Z"></span>Thanks! That seems to be going in the opposite direction (subranges of given range) than I want (superset-ranges of given), but I added a note about this variation there. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DMacks" title="User:DMacks">DMacks</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DMacks" title="User talk:DMacks">talk</a>) 03:09, 19 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DMacks|2019-08-19T03:09:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-08-19T02:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-19T03:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DMacks&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DMacks|2019-08-19T03:09:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-08-19T02:45:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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 </p><h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Format_output_of_Template:To_USD" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Format_output_of_Template:To_USD|2019-08-19T18:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Waddie96|2019-08-19T18:39:00.000Z|Format_output_of_Template:To_USD&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Format_output_of_Template:To_USD|2019-08-19T18:39:00.000Z"></span>Format output of Template:To USD<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Format_output_of_Template:To_USD|2019-08-19T18:39:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Waddie96|2019-08-19T18:39:00.000Z|Format_output_of_Template:To_USD"></span>Hi there, please can you assist me with formatting the output of <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:To_USD" title="Template:To USD">Template:To USD</a> to insert commas between thousands, in addition to accept input which has commas. I believe <span class="nowrap"><code>{{formatnum:}}</code></span> will be of assistance. Thanks for your help in advance, <code>{{u|<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Waddie96" title="User:Waddie96">waddie96</a>}} {<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Waddie96" title="User talk:Waddie96">talk</a>}</code> 18:39, 19 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Waddie96|2019-08-19T18:39:00.000Z|Format_output_of_Template:To_USD&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-19T18:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Waddie96&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Waddie96|2019-08-19T18:39:00.000Z|Format_output_of_Template:To_USD"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Waddie96|2019-08-19T18:39:00.000Z|Format_output_of_Template:To_USD"></span>Hi there, please can you assist me with formatting the output of <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:To_USD" title="Template:To USD">Template:To USD</a> to insert commas between thousands, in addition to accept input which has commas. I believe <span class="nowrap"><code>{{formatnum:}}</code></span> will be of assistance. Thanks for your help in advance, <code>{{u|<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Waddie96" title="User:Waddie96">waddie96</a>}} {<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Waddie96" title="User talk:Waddie96">talk</a>}</code> 18:39, 19 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Waddie96|2019-08-19T18:39:00.000Z|Format_output_of_Template:To_USD&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-19T18:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Waddie96&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Waddie96|2019-08-19T18:39:00.000Z|Format_output_of_Template:To_USD"></span>
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 <dl><dd><span style="font-size:85%;">[A note for myself that the template help doc must be updated to match these changes, i.e. r/v recent additions]</span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id=".22Move_subpages_of_talk_page_.28up_to_100.29.22_checkbox_unticked_by_default"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="&quot;Move_subpages_of_talk_page_(up_to_100)&quot;_checkbox_unticked_by_default" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|\&quot;Move_subpages_of_talk_page_(up_to_100)\&quot;_checkbox_unticked_by_default|2019-08-12T05:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|QEDK|2019-08-12T05:24:00.000Z|\&quot;Move_subpages_of_talk_page_(up_to_100)\&quot;_checkbox_unticked_by_default&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|&quot;Move_subpages_of_talk_page_(up_to_100)&quot;_checkbox_unticked_by_default|2019-08-12T05:24:00.000Z"></span>"Move subpages of talk page (up to 100)" checkbox unticked by default<span data-mw-comment-end="h|&quot;Move_subpages_of_talk_page_(up_to_100)&quot;_checkbox_unticked_by_default|2019-08-12T05:24:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
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-<p>I'm pretty confident I've seen a thread on this topic, and we made sure the default was to then keep it checked, for reasons of not making stupid mistakes. Was the change reversed or am I seeing things? --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 05:24, 12 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-08-12T05:24:00.000Z|\&quot;Move_subpages_of_talk_page_(up_to_100)\&quot;_checkbox_unticked_by_default&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Galobtter|2019-08-12T06:13:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-08-12T05:24:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-12T05:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-08-12T05:24:00.000Z|&quot;Move_subpages_of_talk_page_(up_to_100)&quot;_checkbox_unticked_by_default"></span>
+<p>I'm pretty confident I've seen a thread on this topic, and we made sure the default was to then keep it checked, for reasons of not making stupid mistakes. Was the change reversed or am I seeing things? --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 05:24, 12 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-08-12T05:24:00.000Z|\&quot;Move_subpages_of_talk_page_(up_to_100)\&quot;_checkbox_unticked_by_default&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Galobtter|2019-08-12T06:13:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-08-12T05:24:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-12T05:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-08-12T05:24:00.000Z|&quot;Move_subpages_of_talk_page_(up_to_100)&quot;_checkbox_unticked_by_default"></span>
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 <dl><dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Galobtter|2019-08-12T06:13:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-08-12T05:24:00.000Z"></span>QEDK</a>, the change hasn't been merged - see <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T222953" class="extiw" title="phab:T222953">phab:T222953</a>. You can put this snippet (written by someone else) in your <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MyPage/common.js" title="Special:MyPage/common.js">Special:MyPage/common.js</a>:<div class="mw-highlight mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"><pre><span></span><span class="o">:</span><span class="cm">/* Automatically tick the "Move subpages" option when moving pages.*/</span>
 <span class="o">:</span><span class="kd">var</span> <span class="nx">moveSubpagesBox</span> <span class="o">=</span> <span class="nb">document</span><span class="p">.</span><span class="nx">getElementsByName</span><span class="p">(</span><span class="s2">"wpMovesubpages"</span><span class="p">)[</span><span class="mi">0</span><span class="p">];</span>
@@ -2657,9 +2657,9 @@ Greetings, Community tech bot appears to be down (not running) since April, 2019
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-<dd>to automatically tick it though. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Galobtter" title="User:Galobtter">Galobtter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Galobtter" title="User talk:Galobtter">pingó mió</a>) 06:13, 12 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Galobtter|2019-08-12T06:13:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-08-12T05:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|QEDK|2019-08-12T17:25:00.000Z|Galobtter|2019-08-12T06:13:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-12T06:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Galobtter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Galobtter|2019-08-12T06:13:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-08-12T05:24:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-08-12T17:25:00.000Z|Galobtter|2019-08-12T06:13:00.000Z"></span>Thanks, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Galobtter" title="User:Galobtter">Galobtter</a>:</span>, not quite sure how or where I saw the change, I do appreciate the hack! :) --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 17:25, 12 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-08-12T17:25:00.000Z|Galobtter|2019-08-12T06:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|QEDK|2019-08-19T19:51:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-08-12T17:25:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-12T17:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-08-12T17:25:00.000Z|Galobtter|2019-08-12T06:13:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-08-19T19:51:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-08-12T17:25:00.000Z"></span>Thanks, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DannyS712" title="User:DannyS712">DannyS712</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Legoktm" title="User:Legoktm">Legoktm</a>:</span>! --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK">qedk</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK">t</a> <span style="color:#fac">桜</span> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK">c</a>)</span> 19:51, 19 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-08-19T19:51:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-08-12T17:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-19T19:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-08-19T19:51:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-08-12T17:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dd>to automatically tick it though. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Galobtter" title="User:Galobtter">Galobtter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Galobtter" title="User talk:Galobtter">pingó mió</a>) 06:13, 12 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Galobtter|2019-08-12T06:13:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-08-12T05:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|QEDK|2019-08-12T17:25:00.000Z|Galobtter|2019-08-12T06:13:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-12T06:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Galobtter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Galobtter|2019-08-12T06:13:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-08-12T05:24:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-08-12T17:25:00.000Z|Galobtter|2019-08-12T06:13:00.000Z"></span>Thanks, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Galobtter" title="User:Galobtter">Galobtter</a>:</span>, not quite sure how or where I saw the change, I do appreciate the hack! :) --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK"><span style="color:black">qedk</span></a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK"><span style="color:black">t</span></a> 桜 <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK"><span style="color:black">c</span></a>)</span> 17:25, 12 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-08-12T17:25:00.000Z|Galobtter|2019-08-12T06:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|QEDK|2019-08-19T19:51:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-08-12T17:25:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-12T17:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-08-12T17:25:00.000Z|Galobtter|2019-08-12T06:13:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-08-19T19:51:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-08-12T17:25:00.000Z"></span>Thanks, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DannyS712" title="User:DannyS712">DannyS712</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Legoktm" title="User:Legoktm">Legoktm</a>:</span>! --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK">qedk</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK">t</a> <span style="color:#fac">桜</span> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK">c</a>)</span> 19:51, 19 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-08-19T19:51:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-08-12T17:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-19T19:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-08-19T19:51:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-08-12T17:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id="Picking_a_draft_to_review:_RandomInCategory_isn.27t_very_random"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Picking_a_draft_to_review:_RandomInCategory_isn't_very_random" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Picking_a_draft_to_review:_RandomInCategory_isn't_very_random|2019-08-18T17:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-18T17:57:00.000Z|Picking_a_draft_to_review:_RandomInCategory_isn't_very_random&quot;,&quot;c|Bawolff|2019-08-20T02:02:00.000Z|Picking_a_draft_to_review:_RandomInCategory_isn't_very_random&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Picking_a_draft_to_review:_RandomInCategory_isn't_very_random|2019-08-18T17:57:00.000Z"></span>Picking a draft to review: RandomInCategory isn't very random<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Picking_a_draft_to_review:_RandomInCategory_isn't_very_random|2019-08-18T17:57:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
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 <p>I've noticed that when I use <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RandomInCategory/Pending_AfC_submissions" title="Special:RandomInCategory/Pending AfC submissions">Special:RandomInCategory/Pending AfC submissions</a>, I see the same pages over and over.  I found some threads (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_46#Is_'Random_article'_truly_random?" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 46">here</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_AJ#Special:Random" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive AJ">here</a>) that explain about how RandomInCategory works (i.e. indexing pre-generated page_random values).  I get that it's fast, but boy, does it produce poor results.  I just pulled up 25 "random" drafts, and got:
@@ -2716,127 +2716,127 @@ Greetings, Community tech bot appears to be down (not running) since April, 2019
 </pre>
 <p>That's pretty typical across many runs.  That says to me (the self-professed statistical idiot) that the longer you manage the draft work queue with this process, the less uniform the gap distribution will become, and thus lead to the behavior I'm seeing.
 </p><p>Assuming the above makes any sense at all, I think we need a better way to manage the draft work queue.
-</p><p>-- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> 17:57, 18 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-18T17:57:00.000Z|Picking_a_draft_to_review:_RandomInCategory_isn't_very_random&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Guy Macon|2019-08-18T18:43:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-18T17:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Huji|2019-08-18T18:58:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-18T17:57:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-18T17:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RoySmith&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RoySmith|2019-08-18T17:57:00.000Z|Picking_a_draft_to_review:_RandomInCategory_isn't_very_random"></span>
+</p><p>-- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> 17:57, 18 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-18T17:57:00.000Z|Picking_a_draft_to_review:_RandomInCategory_isn't_very_random&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Guy Macon|2019-08-18T18:43:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-18T17:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Huji|2019-08-18T18:58:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-18T17:57:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-18T17:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RoySmith&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RoySmith|2019-08-18T17:57:00.000Z|Picking_a_draft_to_review:_RandomInCategory_isn't_very_random"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Guy Macon|2019-08-18T18:43:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-18T17:57:00.000Z"></span>Good catch! Would this be a good candidate for a Phabricator ticket? --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Guy_Macon" title="User:Guy Macon">Guy Macon</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Guy_Macon" title="User talk:Guy Macon">talk</a>) 18:43, 18 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Guy Macon|2019-08-18T18:43:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-18T17:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-18T18:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Guy Macon&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Guy Macon|2019-08-18T18:43:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-18T17:57:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Guy Macon|2019-08-18T18:43:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-18T17:57:00.000Z"></span>Good catch! Would this be a good candidate for a Phabricator ticket? --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Guy_Macon" title="User:Guy Macon">Guy Macon</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Guy_Macon" title="User talk:Guy Macon">talk</a>) 18:43, 18 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Guy Macon|2019-08-18T18:43:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-18T17:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-18T18:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Guy Macon&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Guy Macon|2019-08-18T18:43:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-18T17:57:00.000Z"></span></dd>
 <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Huji|2019-08-18T18:58:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-18T17:57:00.000Z"></span>Huh! I am virtually never active on enwiki. I happened to open the thread right above this one and see this as a result. I also happen to be the person who wrote RandomInCategory!</dd>
-<dd>I think it is best to move this to Phab. Essentially (if I understand it well) the problem is that page_random is (hopefully) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_distribution" class="mw-disambig" title="Uniform distribution">uniformly distributed</a> across all pages; but when thinking about a small category, its values will certainly not be uniformly distributed. There exist <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_(statistics)" title="Kernel (statistics)">ways</a> through which we could circumvent this, but I'm not sure if these ways are efficient enough to be adopted into MW source code. It is best to have that discussion in Phab, where more technical users can discuss its efficiency (or propose more efficient implementations of it). Please add me (Huji) on Phab once you create the task. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Huji" title="User:Huji">huji</a>—<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Huji" title="User talk:Huji"><small>TALK</small></a> 18:58, 18 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Huji|2019-08-18T18:58:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-18T17:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-18T19:11:00.000Z|Huji|2019-08-18T18:58:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-18T18:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Huji&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Huji|2019-08-18T18:58:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-18T17:57:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RoySmith|2019-08-18T19:11:00.000Z|Huji|2019-08-18T18:58:00.000Z"></span>I'm happy to open a Phab ticket, but I'm not sure what the ticket should say.  The problem isn't (I don't think) that RandomInCategory is broken.  I think the current implementation actually a pretty good solution for its intended purpose, which I assume is driving the "Random article" link on the main page.  It's just that how we use it for managing the draft work queue is not a good fit.  -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> 19:11, 18 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-18T19:11:00.000Z|Huji|2019-08-18T18:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Guy Macon|2019-08-18T19:36:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-18T19:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-18T19:20:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-18T19:11:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-18T19:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RoySmith&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RoySmith|2019-08-18T19:11:00.000Z|Huji|2019-08-18T18:58:00.000Z"></span>
+<dd>I think it is best to move this to Phab. Essentially (if I understand it well) the problem is that page_random is (hopefully) <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_distribution" class="mw-disambig" title="Uniform distribution">uniformly distributed</a> across all pages; but when thinking about a small category, its values will certainly not be uniformly distributed. There exist <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_(statistics)" title="Kernel (statistics)">ways</a> through which we could circumvent this, but I'm not sure if these ways are efficient enough to be adopted into MW source code. It is best to have that discussion in Phab, where more technical users can discuss its efficiency (or propose more efficient implementations of it). Please add me (Huji) on Phab once you create the task. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Huji" title="User:Huji">huji</a>—<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Huji" title="User talk:Huji"><small>TALK</small></a> 18:58, 18 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Huji|2019-08-18T18:58:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-18T17:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-18T19:11:00.000Z|Huji|2019-08-18T18:58:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-18T18:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Huji&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Huji|2019-08-18T18:58:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-18T17:57:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RoySmith|2019-08-18T19:11:00.000Z|Huji|2019-08-18T18:58:00.000Z"></span>I'm happy to open a Phab ticket, but I'm not sure what the ticket should say.  The problem isn't (I don't think) that RandomInCategory is broken.  I think the current implementation actually a pretty good solution for its intended purpose, which I assume is driving the "Random article" link on the main page.  It's just that how we use it for managing the draft work queue is not a good fit.  -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> 19:11, 18 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-18T19:11:00.000Z|Huji|2019-08-18T18:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Guy Macon|2019-08-18T19:36:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-18T19:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-18T19:20:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-18T19:11:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-18T19:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RoySmith&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RoySmith|2019-08-18T19:11:00.000Z|Huji|2019-08-18T18:58:00.000Z"></span>
 <dl><dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Guy Macon|2019-08-18T19:36:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-18T19:11:00.000Z"></span>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Edit_conflict" title="Help:Edit conflict">edit conflict</a>)</small>My philosophy is to describe the problem without making any assumptions as to what form the solution should take. I remember a toy I worked on a a while back (think <b>very</b> limited amount of RAM and processing power) where the complain was that a particular "random choice" didn't feel random enough. Upon talking to the play testers, the real complaint was the toy serving up the same random selection two or three times in a row. So instead of rewriting the RNG, I just had it remember the last eight results and "roll again" if the latest selection was on the list of recent results. My point is that the people reporting the problem didn't know that this was the solution, and instead asked me to "make the selection more random" I actually made it slighly <i>less</i> random, but I solved the real problem.</dd>
-<dd>So just report the test results without any assumption about what the answer should be, and let the developers pick a solution. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Guy_Macon" title="User:Guy Macon">Guy Macon</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Guy_Macon" title="User talk:Guy Macon">talk</a>) 19:36, 18 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Guy Macon|2019-08-18T19:36:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-18T19:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-18T19:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Guy Macon&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Guy Macon|2019-08-18T19:36:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-18T19:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RoySmith|2019-08-18T19:20:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-18T19:11:00.000Z"></span>Created <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T230700" class="extiw" title="phabricator:T230700">T230700</a> -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> 19:20, 18 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-18T19:20:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-18T19:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-18T19:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RoySmith&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RoySmith|2019-08-18T19:20:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-18T19:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bawolff|2019-08-20T02:02:00.000Z|Picking_a_draft_to_review:_RandomInCategory_isn't_very_random"></span>So just to clarify - RandomInCategory does not use page_random like <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random" title="Special:Random">Special:Random</a> does. Instead it looks at the date the first and last page was added to the category, and then picks a random time somewhere between those two, in order to find a page. Since date added to a category is distributed non-uniformly, this is generally not random. At the time, it was felt that this method, although severely flawed was better than nothing. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bawolff" title="User:Bawolff">Bawolff</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bawolff" title="User talk:Bawolff">talk</a>) 02:02, 20 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bawolff|2019-08-20T02:02:00.000Z|Picking_a_draft_to_review:_RandomInCategory_isn't_very_random&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-20T19:43:00.000Z|Bawolff|2019-08-20T02:02:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-20T02:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bawolff&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bawolff|2019-08-20T02:02:00.000Z|Picking_a_draft_to_review:_RandomInCategory_isn't_very_random"></span>
+<dd>So just report the test results without any assumption about what the answer should be, and let the developers pick a solution. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Guy_Macon" title="User:Guy Macon">Guy Macon</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Guy_Macon" title="User talk:Guy Macon">talk</a>) 19:36, 18 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Guy Macon|2019-08-18T19:36:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-18T19:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-18T19:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Guy Macon&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Guy Macon|2019-08-18T19:36:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-18T19:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RoySmith|2019-08-18T19:20:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-18T19:11:00.000Z"></span>Created <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T230700" class="extiw" title="phabricator:T230700">T230700</a> -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> 19:20, 18 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-18T19:20:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-18T19:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-18T19:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RoySmith&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RoySmith|2019-08-18T19:20:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-18T19:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bawolff|2019-08-20T02:02:00.000Z|Picking_a_draft_to_review:_RandomInCategory_isn't_very_random"></span>So just to clarify - RandomInCategory does not use page_random like <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random" title="Special:Random">Special:Random</a> does. Instead it looks at the date the first and last page was added to the category, and then picks a random time somewhere between those two, in order to find a page. Since date added to a category is distributed non-uniformly, this is generally not random. At the time, it was felt that this method, although severely flawed was better than nothing. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bawolff" title="User:Bawolff">Bawolff</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bawolff" title="User talk:Bawolff">talk</a>) 02:02, 20 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bawolff|2019-08-20T02:02:00.000Z|Picking_a_draft_to_review:_RandomInCategory_isn't_very_random&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-20T19:43:00.000Z|Bawolff|2019-08-20T02:02:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-20T02:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bawolff&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bawolff|2019-08-20T02:02:00.000Z|Picking_a_draft_to_review:_RandomInCategory_isn't_very_random"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RoySmith|2019-08-20T19:43:00.000Z|Bawolff|2019-08-20T02:02:00.000Z"></span>Oh, so that really explains what's going on.  That's worse than using page_random.  With page_random, the biggest gaps tend to get split into smaller ones as new pages get added to the category, as noted above.  In fact, once I realized that, I no longer had much confidence that my analysis made sense, but the behavioral observation was still valid.  If you're using date added, that's monotonically increasing.  Existing gaps never get split, they just keep getting bigger as entries are removed from the category.  The one nice thing is this tends to favor processing older entries first.  -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> 19:43, 20 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-20T19:43:00.000Z|Bawolff|2019-08-20T02:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-20T19:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RoySmith&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RoySmith|2019-08-20T19:43:00.000Z|Bawolff|2019-08-20T02:02:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RoySmith|2019-08-20T19:43:00.000Z|Bawolff|2019-08-20T02:02:00.000Z"></span>Oh, so that really explains what's going on.  That's worse than using page_random.  With page_random, the biggest gaps tend to get split into smaller ones as new pages get added to the category, as noted above.  In fact, once I realized that, I no longer had much confidence that my analysis made sense, but the behavioral observation was still valid.  If you're using date added, that's monotonically increasing.  Existing gaps never get split, they just keep getting bigger as entries are removed from the category.  The one nice thing is this tends to favor processing older entries first.  -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> 19:43, 20 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-20T19:43:00.000Z|Bawolff|2019-08-20T02:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-20T19:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RoySmith&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RoySmith|2019-08-20T19:43:00.000Z|Bawolff|2019-08-20T02:02:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
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 <div class="thumb tright"><div class="thumbinner" style="width:302px;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Map_of_Russia_-_Time_Zones_(2018).svg" class="image"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-15T10:51:00.000Z|CSS_for_tables_sabotaged?"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f2/Map_of_Russia_-_Time_Zones_%282018%29.svg/300px-Map_of_Russia_-_Time_Zones_%282018%29.svg.png" decoding="async" width="300" height="173" class="thumbimage" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f2/Map_of_Russia_-_Time_Zones_%282018%29.svg/450px-Map_of_Russia_-_Time_Zones_%282018%29.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f2/Map_of_Russia_-_Time_Zones_%282018%29.svg/600px-Map_of_Russia_-_Time_Zones_%282018%29.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="1092" data-file-height="630"/></a>  <div class="thumbcaption"><div class="magnify"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Map_of_Russia_-_Time_Zones_(2018).svg" class="internal" title="Enlarge"></a></div><table style="background-color:inherit;">  <caption><b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_in_Russia" title="Time in Russia">Time in Russia</a></b> </caption> <tbody><tr> <td><span style="background-color:#00a008;; color:black; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;">    </span> </td> <td>KALT </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaliningrad_Time" title="Kaliningrad Time">Kaliningrad Time</a> </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B02:00" title="UTC+02:00">UTC+2</a> </td> <td>(MSK−1) </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="background-color:#e32525;; color:white; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;">    </span> </td> <td>MSK </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_Time" title="Moscow Time">Moscow Time</a> </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B03:00" title="UTC+03:00">UTC+3</a> </td> <td>(MSK±0) </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="background-color:#66cbff;; color:black; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;">    </span> </td> <td>SAMT </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samara_Time" title="Samara Time">Samara Time</a> </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B04:00" title="UTC+04:00">UTC+4</a> </td> <td>(MSK+1) </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="background-color:#ffe000;; color:black; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;">    </span> </td> <td>YEKT </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yekaterinburg_Time" title="Yekaterinburg Time">Yekaterinburg Time</a> </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B05:00" title="UTC+05:00">UTC+5</a> </td> <td>(MSK+2) </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="background-color:#4feeee;; color:black; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;">    </span> </td> <td>OMST </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omsk_Time" title="Omsk Time">Omsk Time</a> </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B06:00" title="UTC+06:00">UTC+6</a> </td> <td>(MSK+3) </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="background-color:#c0ce90;; color:black; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;">    </span> </td> <td>KRAT </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krasnoyarsk_Time" title="Krasnoyarsk Time">Krasnoyarsk Time</a> </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B07:00" title="UTC+07:00">UTC+7</a> </td> <td>(MSK+4) </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="background-color:#cc66cc;; color:black; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;">    </span> </td> <td>IRKT </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irkutsk_Time" title="Irkutsk Time">Irkutsk Time</a> </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B08:00" title="UTC+08:00">UTC+8</a> </td> <td>(MSK+5) </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="background-color:#4466cc;; color:white; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;">    </span> </td> <td>YAKT </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakutsk_Time" title="Yakutsk Time">Yakutsk Time</a> </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B09:00" title="UTC+09:00">UTC+9</a> </td> <td>(MSK+6) </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="background-color:#b1f940;; color:black; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;">    </span> </td> <td>VLAT </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladivostok_Time" title="Vladivostok Time">Vladivostok Time</a> </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B10:00" title="UTC+10:00">UTC+10</a> </td> <td>(MSK+7) </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="background-color:#ffa060;; color:black; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;">    </span> </td> <td>MAGT </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magadan_Time" title="Magadan Time">Magadan Time</a> </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B11:00" title="UTC+11:00">UTC+11</a> </td> <td>(MSK+8) </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="background-color:#b00000;; color:white; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;">    </span> </td> <td>PETT </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamchatka_Time" title="Kamchatka Time">Kamchatka Time</a> </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B12:00" title="UTC+12:00">UTC+12</a> </td> <td>(MSK+9) </td></tr></tbody></table></div></div></div>
-<p>The content of {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Time_zones_of_Russia" title="Template:Time zones of Russia">time zones of Russia</a>}} is nastily clipped in Vector. <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Time_zones_of_Russia&amp;useskin=monobook">In Monobook</a> <span style="font-family: 'Georgia Pro', Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;">I</span> see it differently depending on desktop. <span style="font-family: 'Georgia Pro', Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;">I</span> suspect that some quick hands without feedback scrabbled in style sheets, but am unwilling to investigate. There are scores of people with privileges here, while <span style="font-family: 'Georgia Pro', Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;">I</span> have none. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User:Incnis Mrsi">Incnis Mrsi</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User talk:Incnis Mrsi">talk</a>) 10:51, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-15T10:51:00.000Z|CSS_for_tables_sabotaged?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-15T11:48:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-15T10:51:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T10:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Incnis Mrsi&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-15T10:51:00.000Z|CSS_for_tables_sabotaged?"></span>
+<p>The content of {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Time_zones_of_Russia" title="Template:Time zones of Russia">time zones of Russia</a>}} is nastily clipped in Vector. <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Time_zones_of_Russia&amp;useskin=monobook">In Monobook</a> <span style="font-family: 'Georgia Pro', Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;">I</span> see it differently depending on desktop. <span style="font-family: 'Georgia Pro', Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;">I</span> suspect that some quick hands without feedback scrabbled in style sheets, but am unwilling to investigate. There are scores of people with privileges here, while <span style="font-family: 'Georgia Pro', Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;">I</span> have none. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User:Incnis Mrsi">Incnis Mrsi</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User talk:Incnis Mrsi">talk</a>) 10:51, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-15T10:51:00.000Z|CSS_for_tables_sabotaged?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-15T11:48:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-15T10:51:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T10:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Incnis Mrsi&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-15T10:51:00.000Z|CSS_for_tables_sabotaged?"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Izno|2019-08-15T11:48:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-15T10:51:00.000Z"></span>I'm actually shocked the template works at all; I've never seen anyone put a table inside of a file caption. I don't see any issue though, any of Monobook, Vector, or Timeless. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 11:48, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-15T11:48:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-15T10:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T11:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Izno&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Izno|2019-08-15T11:48:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-15T10:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Izno|2019-08-15T11:48:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-15T10:51:00.000Z"></span>I'm actually shocked the template works at all; I've never seen anyone put a table inside of a file caption. I don't see any issue though, any of Monobook, Vector, or Timeless. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 11:48, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-15T11:48:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-15T10:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T11:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Izno&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Izno|2019-08-15T11:48:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-15T10:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <div class="thumb tright"><div class="thumbinner" style="width:174px;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Example.png" class="image"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T12:03:00.000Z|CSS_for_tables_sabotaged?"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/70/Example.png" decoding="async" width="172" height="178" class="thumbimage" data-file-width="172" data-file-height="178"/></a>  <div class="thumbcaption"><div class="magnify"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Example.png" class="internal" title="Enlarge"></a></div>Caption with a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong word</div></div></div>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd>It also looks fine to me in Vector. Captions don't make horizontal scrollbars for wide content so I can imagine the right side being cut off for some users who don't have room for all the table columns. If this is what you mean by ""nastily clipped" then it's not specific to tables. It happens for me in the example image with "Caption with a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong word". I see three caption lines with the middle cut off at "looooooooooooooooooooooooo". <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 12:03, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T12:03:00.000Z|CSS_for_tables_sabotaged?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T12:15:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T12:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-15T13:45:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T12:03:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T12:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T12:03:00.000Z|CSS_for_tables_sabotaged?"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T12:15:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T12:03:00.000Z"></span>The image in {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Time_zones_of_Russia" title="Template:Time zones of Russia">time zones of Russia</a>}} is 300px. The smallest size where I see the full caption in Vector is 272px. We could increase the image to 350px to reduce the risk of problems. There may still be users with too large fonts but probably few. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 12:15, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T12:15:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T12:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T12:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T12:15:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T12:03:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-15T13:45:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T12:03:00.000Z"></span>Thanks, <span style="font-family: 'Georgia Pro', Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;">I</span> missed that the template was foolishly redesigned during last years. Should the table be extracted from the caption? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User:Incnis Mrsi">Incnis Mrsi</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User talk:Incnis Mrsi">talk</a>) 13:45, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-15T13:45:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T12:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-15T13:56:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-15T13:45:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T13:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Incnis Mrsi&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-15T13:45:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T12:03:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Izno|2019-08-15T13:56:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-15T13:45:00.000Z"></span>I think that would be a good idea. More guaranteed not to break that way. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 13:56, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-15T13:56:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-15T13:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T13:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Izno&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Izno|2019-08-15T13:56:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-15T13:45:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd>It also looks fine to me in Vector. Captions don't make horizontal scrollbars for wide content so I can imagine the right side being cut off for some users who don't have room for all the table columns. If this is what you mean by ""nastily clipped" then it's not specific to tables. It happens for me in the example image with "Caption with a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong word". I see three caption lines with the middle cut off at "looooooooooooooooooooooooo". <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 12:03, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T12:03:00.000Z|CSS_for_tables_sabotaged?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T12:15:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T12:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-15T13:45:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T12:03:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T12:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T12:03:00.000Z|CSS_for_tables_sabotaged?"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T12:15:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T12:03:00.000Z"></span>The image in {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Time_zones_of_Russia" title="Template:Time zones of Russia">time zones of Russia</a>}} is 300px. The smallest size where I see the full caption in Vector is 272px. We could increase the image to 350px to reduce the risk of problems. There may still be users with too large fonts but probably few. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 12:15, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T12:15:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T12:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T12:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T12:15:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T12:03:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-15T13:45:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T12:03:00.000Z"></span>Thanks, <span style="font-family: 'Georgia Pro', Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;">I</span> missed that the template was foolishly redesigned during last years. Should the table be extracted from the caption? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User:Incnis Mrsi">Incnis Mrsi</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Incnis_Mrsi" title="User talk:Incnis Mrsi">talk</a>) 13:45, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-15T13:45:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T12:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-15T13:56:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-15T13:45:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T13:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Incnis Mrsi&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-15T13:45:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T12:03:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Izno|2019-08-15T13:56:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-15T13:45:00.000Z"></span>I think that would be a good idea. More guaranteed not to break that way. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 13:56, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-15T13:56:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-15T13:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T13:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Izno&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Izno|2019-08-15T13:56:00.000Z|Incnis Mrsi|2019-08-15T13:45:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <div class="thumb tright"><div class="thumbinner" style="width:302px;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Map_of_Russia_-_Time_Zones_(2018).svg" class="image"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T16:41:00.000Z|CSS_for_tables_sabotaged?"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f2/Map_of_Russia_-_Time_Zones_%282018%29.svg/300px-Map_of_Russia_-_Time_Zones_%282018%29.svg.png" decoding="async" width="300" height="173" class="thumbimage" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f2/Map_of_Russia_-_Time_Zones_%282018%29.svg/450px-Map_of_Russia_-_Time_Zones_%282018%29.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f2/Map_of_Russia_-_Time_Zones_%282018%29.svg/600px-Map_of_Russia_-_Time_Zones_%282018%29.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="1092" data-file-height="630"/></a>  <div class="thumbcaption"><div class="magnify"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Map_of_Russia_-_Time_Zones_(2018).svg" class="internal" title="Enlarge"></a></div>With 300px image  <table style="background-color:inherit;">  <caption><b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_in_Russia" title="Time in Russia">Time in Russia</a></b> </caption> <tbody><tr> <td><span style="background-color:#00a008;; color:black; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;">    </span> </td> <td>KALT </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaliningrad_Time" title="Kaliningrad Time">Kaliningrad Time</a> </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B02:00" title="UTC+02:00">UTC+2</a> (MSK−1) </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="background-color:#e32525;; color:white; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;">    </span> </td> <td>MSK </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_Time" title="Moscow Time">Moscow Time</a> </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B03:00" title="UTC+03:00">UTC+3</a> (MSK±0) </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="background-color:#66cbff;; color:black; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;">    </span> </td> <td>SAMT </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samara_Time" title="Samara Time">Samara Time</a> </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B04:00" title="UTC+04:00">UTC+4</a> (MSK+1) </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="background-color:#ffe000;; color:black; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;">    </span> </td> <td>YEKT </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yekaterinburg_Time" title="Yekaterinburg Time">Yekaterinburg Time</a> </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B05:00" title="UTC+05:00">UTC+5</a> (MSK+2) </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="background-color:#4feeee;; color:black; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;">    </span> </td> <td>OMST </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omsk_Time" title="Omsk Time">Omsk Time</a> </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B06:00" title="UTC+06:00">UTC+6</a> (MSK+3) </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="background-color:#c0ce90;; color:black; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;">    </span> </td> <td>KRAT </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krasnoyarsk_Time" title="Krasnoyarsk Time">Krasnoyarsk Time</a> </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B07:00" title="UTC+07:00">UTC+7</a> (MSK+4) </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="background-color:#cc66cc;; color:black; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;">    </span> </td> <td>IRKT </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irkutsk_Time" title="Irkutsk Time">Irkutsk Time</a> </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B08:00" title="UTC+08:00">UTC+8</a> (MSK+5) </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="background-color:#4466cc;; color:white; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;">    </span> </td> <td>YAKT </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakutsk_Time" title="Yakutsk Time">Yakutsk Time</a> </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B09:00" title="UTC+09:00">UTC+9</a> (MSK+6) </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="background-color:#b1f940;; color:black; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;">    </span> </td> <td>VLAT </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladivostok_Time" title="Vladivostok Time">Vladivostok Time</a> </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B10:00" title="UTC+10:00">UTC+10</a> (MSK+7) </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="background-color:#ffa060;; color:black; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;">    </span> </td> <td>MAGT </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magadan_Time" title="Magadan Time">Magadan Time</a> </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B11:00" title="UTC+11:00">UTC+11</a> (MSK+8) </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="background-color:#b00000;; color:white; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;">    </span> </td> <td>PETT </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamchatka_Time" title="Kamchatka Time">Kamchatka Time</a> </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B12:00" title="UTC+12:00">UTC+12</a> (MSK+9) </td></tr></tbody></table></div></div></div>
 <div class="thumb tright"><div class="thumbinner" style="width:192px;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Map_of_Russia_-_Time_Zones_(2018).svg" class="image"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f2/Map_of_Russia_-_Time_Zones_%282018%29.svg/190px-Map_of_Russia_-_Time_Zones_%282018%29.svg.png" decoding="async" width="190" height="110" class="thumbimage" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f2/Map_of_Russia_-_Time_Zones_%282018%29.svg/285px-Map_of_Russia_-_Time_Zones_%282018%29.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f2/Map_of_Russia_-_Time_Zones_%282018%29.svg/380px-Map_of_Russia_-_Time_Zones_%282018%29.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="1092" data-file-height="630"/></a>  <div class="thumbcaption"><div class="magnify"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Map_of_Russia_-_Time_Zones_(2018).svg" class="internal" title="Enlarge"></a></div>With 190px image  <table style="background-color:inherit;">  <caption><b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_in_Russia" title="Time in Russia">Time in Russia</a></b> </caption> <tbody><tr> <td><span style="background-color:#00a008;; color:black; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;">    </span> </td> <td>KALT </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaliningrad_Time" title="Kaliningrad Time">Kaliningrad Time</a> </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B02:00" title="UTC+02:00">UTC+2</a> (MSK−1) </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="background-color:#e32525;; color:white; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;">    </span> </td> <td>MSK </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_Time" title="Moscow Time">Moscow Time</a> </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B03:00" title="UTC+03:00">UTC+3</a> (MSK±0) </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="background-color:#66cbff;; color:black; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;">    </span> </td> <td>SAMT </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samara_Time" title="Samara Time">Samara Time</a> </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B04:00" title="UTC+04:00">UTC+4</a> (MSK+1) </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="background-color:#ffe000;; color:black; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;">    </span> </td> <td>YEKT </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yekaterinburg_Time" title="Yekaterinburg Time">Yekaterinburg Time</a> </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B05:00" title="UTC+05:00">UTC+5</a> (MSK+2) </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="background-color:#4feeee;; color:black; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;">    </span> </td> <td>OMST </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omsk_Time" title="Omsk Time">Omsk Time</a> </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B06:00" title="UTC+06:00">UTC+6</a> (MSK+3) </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="background-color:#c0ce90;; color:black; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;">    </span> </td> <td>KRAT </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krasnoyarsk_Time" title="Krasnoyarsk Time">Krasnoyarsk Time</a> </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B07:00" title="UTC+07:00">UTC+7</a> (MSK+4) </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="background-color:#cc66cc;; color:black; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;">    </span> </td> <td>IRKT </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irkutsk_Time" title="Irkutsk Time">Irkutsk Time</a> </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B08:00" title="UTC+08:00">UTC+8</a> (MSK+5) </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="background-color:#4466cc;; color:white; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;">    </span> </td> <td>YAKT </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakutsk_Time" title="Yakutsk Time">Yakutsk Time</a> </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B09:00" title="UTC+09:00">UTC+9</a> (MSK+6) </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="background-color:#b1f940;; color:black; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;">    </span> </td> <td>VLAT </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladivostok_Time" title="Vladivostok Time">Vladivostok Time</a> </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B10:00" title="UTC+10:00">UTC+10</a> (MSK+7) </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="background-color:#ffa060;; color:black; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;">    </span> </td> <td>MAGT </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magadan_Time" title="Magadan Time">Magadan Time</a> </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B11:00" title="UTC+11:00">UTC+11</a> (MSK+8) </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="background-color:#b00000;; color:white; border:1px solid #000000; text-align:center;">    </span> </td> <td>PETT </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamchatka_Time" title="Kamchatka Time">Kamchatka Time</a> </td> <td><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B12:00" title="UTC+12:00">UTC+12</a> (MSK+9) </td></tr></tbody></table></div></div></div>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Tables in captions work fine as long as they aren't forced to be too wide for the image. I added a 300px and 190px version where a &amp;nbsp; is removed to allow wrapping in "Yekaterinburg Time", and UTC/MSK is in the same cell to allow wrapping there. I see the whole caption at 190px and think almost everybody does at 300px. It's less pretty when cells wrap but I think it would be worse if there was no table but just whole unaligned lines which wrap at the end of the line. And most readers probably don't get wrapping at 300px but do get good formatting with aligned columns. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 16:41, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T16:41:00.000Z|CSS_for_tables_sabotaged?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-08-20T20:24:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T16:41:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T16:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T16:41:00.000Z|CSS_for_tables_sabotaged?"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-08-20T20:24:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T16:41:00.000Z"></span>You could also put the image in the (new) top row of the table, and thus not have to worry about how <code class="nowrap">|thumb=</code> behaves at all.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Whatamidoing_(WMF)" title="User:Whatamidoing (WMF)">Whatamidoing (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Whatamidoing_(WMF)" title="User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF)">talk</a>) 20:24, 20 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-08-20T20:24:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T16:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-20T20:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Whatamidoing (WMF)&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-08-20T20:24:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T16:41:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Tables in captions work fine as long as they aren't forced to be too wide for the image. I added a 300px and 190px version where a &amp;nbsp; is removed to allow wrapping in "Yekaterinburg Time", and UTC/MSK is in the same cell to allow wrapping there. I see the whole caption at 190px and think almost everybody does at 300px. It's less pretty when cells wrap but I think it would be worse if there was no table but just whole unaligned lines which wrap at the end of the line. And most readers probably don't get wrapping at 300px but do get good formatting with aligned columns. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 16:41, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T16:41:00.000Z|CSS_for_tables_sabotaged?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-08-20T20:24:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T16:41:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T16:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T16:41:00.000Z|CSS_for_tables_sabotaged?"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-08-20T20:24:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T16:41:00.000Z"></span>You could also put the image in the (new) top row of the table, and thus not have to worry about how <code class="nowrap">|thumb=</code> behaves at all.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Whatamidoing_(WMF)" title="User:Whatamidoing (WMF)">Whatamidoing (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Whatamidoing_(WMF)" title="User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF)">talk</a>) 20:24, 20 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-08-20T20:24:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T16:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-20T20:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Whatamidoing (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-08-20T20:24:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-15T16:41:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Preferences_edit_request" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Preferences_edit_request|2019-08-15T13:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-15T13:52:00.000Z|Preferences_edit_request&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Preferences_edit_request|2019-08-15T13:52:00.000Z"></span>Preferences edit request<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Preferences_edit_request|2019-08-15T13:52:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-15T13:52:00.000Z|Preferences_edit_request"></span>Don't know where else to put this.   At preferences, under "Gadgets", there is a checkbox related to the Watchlist.  EDIT REQUEST, please add text under the watchlist tab so folks configuring watchlists can more easily find the watchlist bold toggle under the gadgets tab.  (I spent 90 minutes today trying to figure out why bold wasn't working but never thought to look under gadgets... Thanks <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:NewsAndEventsGuy" title="User:NewsAndEventsGuy">NewsAndEventsGuy</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NewsAndEventsGuy" title="User talk:NewsAndEventsGuy">talk</a>) 13:52, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-15T13:52:00.000Z|Preferences_edit_request&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ruslik0|2019-08-15T14:20:00.000Z|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-15T13:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T13:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;NewsAndEventsGuy&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-15T13:52:00.000Z|Preferences_edit_request"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-15T13:52:00.000Z|Preferences_edit_request"></span>Don't know where else to put this.   At preferences, under "Gadgets", there is a checkbox related to the Watchlist.  EDIT REQUEST, please add text under the watchlist tab so folks configuring watchlists can more easily find the watchlist bold toggle under the gadgets tab.  (I spent 90 minutes today trying to figure out why bold wasn't working but never thought to look under gadgets... Thanks <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:NewsAndEventsGuy" title="User:NewsAndEventsGuy">NewsAndEventsGuy</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NewsAndEventsGuy" title="User talk:NewsAndEventsGuy">talk</a>) 13:52, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-15T13:52:00.000Z|Preferences_edit_request&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ruslik0|2019-08-15T14:20:00.000Z|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-15T13:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T13:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;NewsAndEventsGuy&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-15T13:52:00.000Z|Preferences_edit_request"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ruslik0|2019-08-15T14:20:00.000Z|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-15T13:52:00.000Z"></span>You mean: "Display pages on your watchlist that have changed since your last visit in bold (see customizing watchlists for more options)"? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ruslik0" title="User:Ruslik0">Ruslik</a>_<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ruslik0" title="User talk:Ruslik0"><span style="color:red">Zero</span></a> 14:20, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ruslik0|2019-08-15T14:20:00.000Z|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-15T13:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-15T14:31:00.000Z|Ruslik0|2019-08-15T14:20:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T14:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ruslik0&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ruslik0|2019-08-15T14:20:00.000Z|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-15T13:52:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-15T14:31:00.000Z|Ruslik0|2019-08-15T14:20:00.000Z"></span>Yes... that quote is under the gadgets tab, so we're coverted going GADGETS >>>to>>> WATCHLIST.   But if one starts configuring their watchlist under "watchlist" - as most preferences noobs probably do - there is no text pointing at the gadget.  If such text were added, we would help people know that there is more watchlist tweaking if they go the other way, WATCHLIST >>>to>>> GADGET. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:NewsAndEventsGuy" title="User:NewsAndEventsGuy">NewsAndEventsGuy</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NewsAndEventsGuy" title="User talk:NewsAndEventsGuy">talk</a>) 14:31, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-15T14:31:00.000Z|Ruslik0|2019-08-15T14:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-08-20T20:27:00.000Z|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-15T14:31:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T14:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;NewsAndEventsGuy&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-15T14:31:00.000Z|Ruslik0|2019-08-15T14:20:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-08-20T20:27:00.000Z|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-15T14:31:00.000Z"></span>I don't think that's possible.  Gadgets are local, user-written scripts.  The rest of <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences" title="Special:Preferences">Special:Preferences</a> is from MediaWiki itself.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TheDJ" title="User:TheDJ">User:TheDJ</a> probably remembers what this script does – maybe turns off MediaWiki's default bold, and then turns it back on, or something like that?  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Whatamidoing_(WMF)" title="User:Whatamidoing (WMF)">Whatamidoing (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Whatamidoing_(WMF)" title="User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF)">talk</a>) 20:27, 20 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-08-20T20:27:00.000Z|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-15T14:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-20T20:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Whatamidoing (WMF)&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-08-20T20:27:00.000Z|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-15T14:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ruslik0|2019-08-15T14:20:00.000Z|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-15T13:52:00.000Z"></span>You mean: "Display pages on your watchlist that have changed since your last visit in bold (see customizing watchlists for more options)"? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ruslik0" title="User:Ruslik0">Ruslik</a>_<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ruslik0" title="User talk:Ruslik0"><span style="color:red">Zero</span></a> 14:20, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ruslik0|2019-08-15T14:20:00.000Z|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-15T13:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-15T14:31:00.000Z|Ruslik0|2019-08-15T14:20:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T14:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ruslik0&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ruslik0|2019-08-15T14:20:00.000Z|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-15T13:52:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-15T14:31:00.000Z|Ruslik0|2019-08-15T14:20:00.000Z"></span>Yes... that quote is under the gadgets tab, so we're coverted going GADGETS >>>to>>> WATCHLIST.   But if one starts configuring their watchlist under "watchlist" - as most preferences noobs probably do - there is no text pointing at the gadget.  If such text were added, we would help people know that there is more watchlist tweaking if they go the other way, WATCHLIST >>>to>>> GADGET. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:NewsAndEventsGuy" title="User:NewsAndEventsGuy">NewsAndEventsGuy</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NewsAndEventsGuy" title="User talk:NewsAndEventsGuy">talk</a>) 14:31, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-15T14:31:00.000Z|Ruslik0|2019-08-15T14:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-08-20T20:27:00.000Z|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-15T14:31:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T14:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;NewsAndEventsGuy&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-15T14:31:00.000Z|Ruslik0|2019-08-15T14:20:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-08-20T20:27:00.000Z|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-15T14:31:00.000Z"></span>I don't think that's possible.  Gadgets are local, user-written scripts.  The rest of <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences" title="Special:Preferences">Special:Preferences</a> is from MediaWiki itself.  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TheDJ" title="User:TheDJ">User:TheDJ</a> probably remembers what this script does – maybe turns off MediaWiki's default bold, and then turns it back on, or something like that?  <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Whatamidoing_(WMF)" title="User:Whatamidoing (WMF)">Whatamidoing (WMF)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Whatamidoing_(WMF)" title="User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF)">talk</a>) 20:27, 20 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-08-20T20:27:00.000Z|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-15T14:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-20T20:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Whatamidoing (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Whatamidoing (WMF)|2019-08-20T20:27:00.000Z|NewsAndEventsGuy|2019-08-15T14:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z|Disabling_HTML_comments_for_drafts?"></span>I've seen several instances of draft authors inserting HTML comments with their replies to reviews.  I assume what's going on is that instead of using the AFCH Comment button, they've accidentally discovered the "Insert comment" feature of Visual Editor.  If you're new at all this, it's a perfectly understandable mistake, and leads to all sorts of confusion.  Is there some way we can disable the "Insert comment" menu item in VE when editing a draft?  -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> 12:54, 16 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z|Disabling_HTML_comments_for_drafts?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T13:02:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Kusma|2019-08-16T13:58:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Worldbruce|2019-08-16T14:33:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-17T01:46:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-20T20:40:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RoySmith&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z|Disabling_HTML_comments_for_drafts?"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z|Disabling_HTML_comments_for_drafts?"></span>I've seen several instances of draft authors inserting HTML comments with their replies to reviews.  I assume what's going on is that instead of using the AFCH Comment button, they've accidentally discovered the "Insert comment" feature of Visual Editor.  If you're new at all this, it's a perfectly understandable mistake, and leads to all sorts of confusion.  Is there some way we can disable the "Insert comment" menu item in VE when editing a draft?  -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> 12:54, 16 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z|Disabling_HTML_comments_for_drafts?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T13:02:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Kusma|2019-08-16T13:58:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Worldbruce|2019-08-16T14:33:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-17T01:46:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-20T20:40:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RoySmith&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z|Disabling_HTML_comments_for_drafts?"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T13:02:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a>:</span> disabling HTML comments in Draft space all together would be a bad idea (for example they are often used to comment out categories being drafted). Can you provide a few diffs where you think this problem is being introduced though? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 13:02, 16 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T13:02:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-16T13:21:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T13:02:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-16T13:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T13:02:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RoySmith|2019-08-16T13:21:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T13:02:00.000Z"></span>Most recently, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Lettice_Bryan&amp;diff=next&amp;oldid=909115245&amp;diffmode=source">here</a>, immediately followed by <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Lettice_Bryan&amp;diff=next&amp;oldid=911071723&amp;diffmode=source">an attempt to fix the problem</a>; I assume the nowiki tags got added automatically as part of some copy-paste operation.  This isn't the first time I've seen stuff like this, but I'd have to do a lot of digging to find other examples.  Maybe the "Insert comment" menu item should be disabled in VE for all new editors, with a preferences checkbox to enable it?  It really is an advanced feature, that's not likely to be needed by new editors.  -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> 13:21, 16 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-16T13:21:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T13:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T13:37:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T13:21:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-16T13:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RoySmith&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RoySmith|2019-08-16T13:21:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T13:02:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T13:37:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T13:21:00.000Z"></span>I don't think there is project-level control of those settings (just like with the "index/noindex" control in there that is virtually useless. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 13:37, 16 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T13:37:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T13:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Guy Macon|2019-08-16T13:47:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T13:37:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-16T13:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T13:37:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T13:21:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T13:02:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a>:</span> disabling HTML comments in Draft space all together would be a bad idea (for example they are often used to comment out categories being drafted). Can you provide a few diffs where you think this problem is being introduced though? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 13:02, 16 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T13:02:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-16T13:21:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T13:02:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-16T13:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T13:02:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RoySmith|2019-08-16T13:21:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T13:02:00.000Z"></span>Most recently, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Lettice_Bryan&amp;diff=next&amp;oldid=909115245&amp;diffmode=source">here</a>, immediately followed by <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Lettice_Bryan&amp;diff=next&amp;oldid=911071723&amp;diffmode=source">an attempt to fix the problem</a>; I assume the nowiki tags got added automatically as part of some copy-paste operation.  This isn't the first time I've seen stuff like this, but I'd have to do a lot of digging to find other examples.  Maybe the "Insert comment" menu item should be disabled in VE for all new editors, with a preferences checkbox to enable it?  It really is an advanced feature, that's not likely to be needed by new editors.  -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> 13:21, 16 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-16T13:21:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T13:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T13:37:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T13:21:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-16T13:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RoySmith&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RoySmith|2019-08-16T13:21:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T13:02:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T13:37:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T13:21:00.000Z"></span>I don't think there is project-level control of those settings (just like with the "index/noindex" control in there that is virtually useless. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 13:37, 16 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T13:37:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T13:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Guy Macon|2019-08-16T13:47:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T13:37:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-16T13:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T13:37:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T13:21:00.000Z"></span>
 <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Guy Macon|2019-08-16T13:47:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T13:37:00.000Z"></span>If possible, I would prefer that the name be changed to "insert <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:HTML_Comment&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Wikipedia:HTML Comment (page does not exist)">invisible comment</a>" with a help page created at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:HTML_Comment&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Wikipedia:HTML Comment (page does not exist)">WP:HTML Comment</a> explaining when and why one might use the  AFCH Comment button and when and why one might use the invisible comment button. We could even add a "are you sure?" extra step befor an HTML comment is placed.</dd>
-<dd>In general, I don't like disabling features when a warning or explanation can do the job. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Guy_Macon" title="User:Guy Macon">Guy Macon</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Guy_Macon" title="User talk:Guy Macon">talk</a>) 13:47, 16 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Guy Macon|2019-08-16T13:47:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T13:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-16T13:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Guy Macon&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Guy Macon|2019-08-16T13:47:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T13:37:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Kusma|2019-08-16T13:58:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z"></span>Having the editor work differently in draft space and main space does not strike me as a desirable feature. Explaining the buttons better seems superior to removing them. —<b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kusma" title="User:Kusma">Kusma</a></b> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kusma" title="User talk:Kusma">t</a>·<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kusma" title="Special:Contributions/Kusma">c</a>) 13:58, 16 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Kusma|2019-08-16T13:58:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T14:03:00.000Z|Kusma|2019-08-16T13:58:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-16T13:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Kusma&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Kusma|2019-08-16T13:58:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T14:03:00.000Z|Kusma|2019-08-16T13:58:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kusma" title="User:Kusma">Kusma</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Guy_Macon" title="User:Guy Macon">Guy Macon</a>:</span> we could change the label from "Comment" to something else <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:AllMessages?prefix=Visualeditor-comment&amp;filter=all&amp;lang=en&amp;limit=50">in these messages</a>. It doesn't look like it supports wikilinks or much help text there though. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 14:03, 16 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T14:03:00.000Z|Kusma|2019-08-16T13:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Guy Macon|2019-08-16T14:28:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T14:03:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-16T14:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T14:03:00.000Z|Kusma|2019-08-16T13:58:00.000Z"></span>
+<dd>In general, I don't like disabling features when a warning or explanation can do the job. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Guy_Macon" title="User:Guy Macon">Guy Macon</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Guy_Macon" title="User talk:Guy Macon">talk</a>) 13:47, 16 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Guy Macon|2019-08-16T13:47:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T13:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-16T13:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Guy Macon&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Guy Macon|2019-08-16T13:47:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T13:37:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Kusma|2019-08-16T13:58:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z"></span>Having the editor work differently in draft space and main space does not strike me as a desirable feature. Explaining the buttons better seems superior to removing them. —<b><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kusma" title="User:Kusma">Kusma</a></b> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kusma" title="User talk:Kusma">t</a>·<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kusma" title="Special:Contributions/Kusma">c</a>) 13:58, 16 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Kusma|2019-08-16T13:58:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T14:03:00.000Z|Kusma|2019-08-16T13:58:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-16T13:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Kusma&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Kusma|2019-08-16T13:58:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T14:03:00.000Z|Kusma|2019-08-16T13:58:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kusma" title="User:Kusma">Kusma</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Guy_Macon" title="User:Guy Macon">Guy Macon</a>:</span> we could change the label from "Comment" to something else <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:AllMessages?prefix=Visualeditor-comment&amp;filter=all&amp;lang=en&amp;limit=50">in these messages</a>. It doesn't look like it supports wikilinks or much help text there though. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 14:03, 16 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T14:03:00.000Z|Kusma|2019-08-16T13:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Guy Macon|2019-08-16T14:28:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T14:03:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-16T14:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T14:03:00.000Z|Kusma|2019-08-16T13:58:00.000Z"></span>
 <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Guy Macon|2019-08-16T14:28:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T14:03:00.000Z"></span>Changing "comment" to "invisible comment" seems like an uncontroversial change that we can make right now. Does anyone object?</dd>
-<dd>Next, is it possible to put up a warning/explanation that the user only sees when they click on that button? --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Guy_Macon" title="User:Guy Macon">Guy Macon</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Guy_Macon" title="User talk:Guy Macon">talk</a>) 14:28, 16 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Guy Macon|2019-08-16T14:28:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T14:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-16T14:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Guy Macon&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Guy Macon|2019-08-16T14:28:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T14:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dd>Next, is it possible to put up a warning/explanation that the user only sees when they click on that button? --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Guy_Macon" title="User:Guy Macon">Guy Macon</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Guy_Macon" title="User talk:Guy Macon">talk</a>) 14:28, 16 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Guy Macon|2019-08-16T14:28:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T14:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-16T14:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Guy Macon&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Guy Macon|2019-08-16T14:28:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-16T14:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Worldbruce|2019-08-16T14:33:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z"></span>Submitters of drafts don't have an AFCH Comment button unless they've turned on "Yet Another AFC Helper Script" in their gadget preferences, which they are extremely unlikely to have done. To keep them from thinking that the right way to respond to a reviewer comment is with <code>&lt;!-- Hidden text --></code>, it would be better to change VE's insert menu item from "Comment" to "Hidden text". "Comment" (or "Invisible comment") makes sense to computer programmers, but most users of VE aren't computer programmers. The text</dd></dl>
-<ul><li><img alt="Symbol opinion vote.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Symbol_opinion_vote.svg/20px-Symbol_opinion_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="21" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Symbol_opinion_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_opinion_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Symbol_opinion_vote.svg/40px-Symbol_opinion_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> <span style="font-weight:bold">Comment:</span> , inserted by template {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:AFC_comment" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:AFC comment">AFC comment</a>}}, could also be changed to something else. If AFCH were modified to place the comments on the talk page, reviewer comments might not need any introductory symbol and word. The argument against using the talk page has always been that newbies are too clueless to find the talk page, but perhaps it's worth investing the effort to train them to do so. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Worldbruce" title="User:Worldbruce">Worldbruce</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Worldbruce" title="User talk:Worldbruce">talk</a>) 14:33, 16 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Worldbruce|2019-08-16T14:33:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-16T14:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Worldbruce&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Worldbruce|2019-08-16T14:33:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RoySmith|2019-08-17T01:46:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z"></span>Thanks everybody for your comments.  I agree that (despite it being my initial recommendation), having VE work differently in drafts than in other namespaces would be confusing.  I like the idea of changing the system messages to say "invisible comment" instead of just "comment".  Even if naive newbies may not understand what that means, it should certainly be a clue that this is probably not what they want.  It may not be the perfect, or final, fix, but it's easy to do and gets us most of the way there.  Low hanging fruit, as they say.  -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> 01:46, 17 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-17T01:46:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-17T01:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RoySmith&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RoySmith|2019-08-17T01:46:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-20T20:40:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z"></span>I've changed the system messages to say "Invisible comment" - if there are any issues please let me know. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 20:40, 20 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-20T20:40:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-20T20:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-20T20:40:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<ul><li><img alt="Symbol opinion vote.svg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Symbol_opinion_vote.svg/20px-Symbol_opinion_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="21" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Symbol_opinion_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_opinion_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Symbol_opinion_vote.svg/40px-Symbol_opinion_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> <span style="font-weight:bold">Comment:</span> , inserted by template {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:AFC_comment" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:AFC comment">AFC comment</a>}}, could also be changed to something else. If AFCH were modified to place the comments on the talk page, reviewer comments might not need any introductory symbol and word. The argument against using the talk page has always been that newbies are too clueless to find the talk page, but perhaps it's worth investing the effort to train them to do so. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Worldbruce" title="User:Worldbruce">Worldbruce</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Worldbruce" title="User talk:Worldbruce">talk</a>) 14:33, 16 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Worldbruce|2019-08-16T14:33:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-16T14:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Worldbruce&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Worldbruce|2019-08-16T14:33:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RoySmith|2019-08-17T01:46:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z"></span>Thanks everybody for your comments.  I agree that (despite it being my initial recommendation), having VE work differently in drafts than in other namespaces would be confusing.  I like the idea of changing the system messages to say "invisible comment" instead of just "comment".  Even if naive newbies may not understand what that means, it should certainly be a clue that this is probably not what they want.  It may not be the perfect, or final, fix, but it's easy to do and gets us most of the way there.  Low hanging fruit, as they say.  -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> 01:46, 17 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-17T01:46:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-17T01:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RoySmith&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RoySmith|2019-08-17T01:46:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-20T20:40:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z"></span>I've changed the system messages to say "Invisible comment" - if there are any issues please let me know. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 20:40, 20 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-20T20:40:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-20T20:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-20T20:40:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-16T12:54:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
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 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Audiodude|2019-08-21T03:28:00.000Z|&quot;Persistent&quot;_login_using_Python_mwclient"></span>Hello, I am one of the maintainers of <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:WP_1.0_bot" title="User:WP 1.0 bot">User:WP 1.0 bot</a>. We've recently changed the server architecture of the bot drastically. Instead of a single threaded cron job that runs once a day, we now have worker processes running as daemons that pick up any work that is added to the work queue. This is coupled with, of course, a cron job that runs once a day but simply adds work to the queue and exits.
 </p><p>I'm running into a problem with long running login sessions expiring (which is to be expected) and how to resolve the issue. The script is written in Python and uses  <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/mwclient/mwclient">mwclient</a> to log in to English Wikipedia and perform edits as the bot. I've logged an <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/openzim/wikimedia_wp1_bot/issues/69">issue on github</a> about the problem.
 </p><p>Basically, I was wondering if anyone has encountered this before and knows how to resolve it. You can see my (convoluted) attempt in <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/openzim/wikimedia_wp1_bot/blob/master/wp1/api.py">our source code</a>. Note that <i>site</i> is a global variable so that login can be performed easily "pre-fork", by the worker startup script before the worker jobs themselves are forked.
-</p><p>Additionally, if anyone has any information about a better place to ask this question, like an "mwclient-users@" mailing list somewhere, that would be very helpful. Thanks! <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Audiodude" title="User:Audiodude">audiodude</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Audiodude" title="User talk:Audiodude">talk</a>) 03:28, 21 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Audiodude|2019-08-21T03:28:00.000Z|\&quot;Persistent\&quot;_login_using_Python_mwclient&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-21T03:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Audiodude&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Audiodude|2019-08-21T03:28:00.000Z|&quot;Persistent&quot;_login_using_Python_mwclient"></span>
+</p><p>Additionally, if anyone has any information about a better place to ask this question, like an "mwclient-users@" mailing list somewhere, that would be very helpful. Thanks! <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Audiodude" title="User:Audiodude">audiodude</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Audiodude" title="User talk:Audiodude">talk</a>) 03:28, 21 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Audiodude|2019-08-21T03:28:00.000Z|\&quot;Persistent\&quot;_login_using_Python_mwclient&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-21T03:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Audiodude&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Audiodude|2019-08-21T03:28:00.000Z|&quot;Persistent&quot;_login_using_Python_mwclient"></span>
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-<p><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Downtime" title="Wikipedia:Downtime"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Guy Macon|2019-08-15T23:32:00.000Z|Is_anyone_up_to_the_job_of_helping_me_update_our_page_on_downtime?"></span>Wikipedia:Downtime</a> is currently inactive and is retained for historical reference. I think it would be worthwhile to revive it. Does anyone know where I can find the information I would need to do that? My impression is that in recent years we have only had brief planned downtime while various upgrades are made, but I would like to see a page documenting the great job the server wranglers are doing. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Guy_Macon" title="User:Guy Macon">Guy Macon</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Guy_Macon" title="User talk:Guy Macon">talk</a>) 23:32, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Guy Macon|2019-08-15T23:32:00.000Z|Is_anyone_up_to_the_job_of_helping_me_update_our_page_on_downtime?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-16T14:57:00.000Z|Guy Macon|2019-08-15T23:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T23:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Guy Macon&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Guy Macon|2019-08-15T23:32:00.000Z|Is_anyone_up_to_the_job_of_helping_me_update_our_page_on_downtime?"></span>
+<p><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Downtime" title="Wikipedia:Downtime"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Guy Macon|2019-08-15T23:32:00.000Z|Is_anyone_up_to_the_job_of_helping_me_update_our_page_on_downtime?"></span>Wikipedia:Downtime</a> is currently inactive and is retained for historical reference. I think it would be worthwhile to revive it. Does anyone know where I can find the information I would need to do that? My impression is that in recent years we have only had brief planned downtime while various upgrades are made, but I would like to see a page documenting the great job the server wranglers are doing. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Guy_Macon" title="User:Guy Macon">Guy Macon</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Guy_Macon" title="User talk:Guy Macon">talk</a>) 23:32, 15 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Guy Macon|2019-08-15T23:32:00.000Z|Is_anyone_up_to_the_job_of_helping_me_update_our_page_on_downtime?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-16T14:57:00.000Z|Guy Macon|2019-08-15T23:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-15T23:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Guy Macon&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Guy Macon|2019-08-15T23:32:00.000Z|Is_anyone_up_to_the_job_of_helping_me_update_our_page_on_downtime?"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-16T14:57:00.000Z|Guy Macon|2019-08-15T23:32:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Guy_Macon" title="User:Guy Macon">Guy Macon</a>:</span> <a href="https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Incident_documentation" class="extiw" title="wikitech:Incident documentation">wikitech:Incident documentation</a>. This includes a lot of services that don't effect readers here on enwiki, though. See also the "Production excellence" reports on <a class="external text" href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/phame/live/1/">Release Engineering Team blog</a>. <span style="font-family:sans-serif">— <span style="font-weight:bold"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal" title="User:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal" title="User talk:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:green">talk</span></a></sup></span></span> 14:57, 16 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-16T14:57:00.000Z|Guy Macon|2019-08-15T23:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Guy Macon|2019-08-16T15:02:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-08-16T14:57:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-16T14:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-16T14:57:00.000Z|Guy Macon|2019-08-15T23:32:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Guy Macon|2019-08-16T15:02:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-08-16T14:57:00.000Z"></span>Thanks! I think I can separate out the actual outages and update the page with that. Might take a week or so because of that pesky real life... :) --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Guy_Macon" title="User:Guy Macon">Guy Macon</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Guy_Macon" title="User talk:Guy Macon">talk</a>) 15:02, 16 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Guy Macon|2019-08-16T15:02:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-08-16T14:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Bawolff|2019-08-21T20:55:00.000Z|Guy Macon|2019-08-16T15:02:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-16T15:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Guy Macon&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Guy Macon|2019-08-16T15:02:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-08-16T14:57:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bawolff|2019-08-21T20:55:00.000Z|Guy Macon|2019-08-16T15:02:00.000Z"></span>Indirect, but probably one way of doing this would be to look at when sudden spurts of activity happen in logs of the #wikimedia-operations irc channel. Downtime usually corresponds with a lot of people asking what is going on, and a lot of spam from monitoring bots. You can also look at the pretty charts at grafana, like this one of edit rate <a class="external autonumber" href="https://grafana.wikimedia.org/d/000000208/edit-count?refresh=5m&amp;orgId=1">[50]</a> (As if the site is down, the editing stops). <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bawolff" title="User:Bawolff">Bawolff</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bawolff" title="User talk:Bawolff">talk</a>) 20:55, 21 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bawolff|2019-08-21T20:55:00.000Z|Guy Macon|2019-08-16T15:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-21T20:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bawolff&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bawolff|2019-08-21T20:55:00.000Z|Guy Macon|2019-08-16T15:02:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-16T14:57:00.000Z|Guy Macon|2019-08-15T23:32:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Guy_Macon" title="User:Guy Macon">Guy Macon</a>:</span> <a href="https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Incident_documentation" class="extiw" title="wikitech:Incident documentation">wikitech:Incident documentation</a>. This includes a lot of services that don't effect readers here on enwiki, though. See also the "Production excellence" reports on <a class="external text" href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/phame/live/1/">Release Engineering Team blog</a>. <span style="font-family:sans-serif">— <span style="font-weight:bold"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal" title="User:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:black; font-style:italic">MusikAnimal</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal" title="User talk:MusikAnimal"><span style="color:green">talk</span></a></sup></span></span> 14:57, 16 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-16T14:57:00.000Z|Guy Macon|2019-08-15T23:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Guy Macon|2019-08-16T15:02:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-08-16T14:57:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-16T14:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MusikAnimal&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MusikAnimal|2019-08-16T14:57:00.000Z|Guy Macon|2019-08-15T23:32:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Guy Macon|2019-08-16T15:02:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-08-16T14:57:00.000Z"></span>Thanks! I think I can separate out the actual outages and update the page with that. Might take a week or so because of that pesky real life... :) --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Guy_Macon" title="User:Guy Macon">Guy Macon</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Guy_Macon" title="User talk:Guy Macon">talk</a>) 15:02, 16 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Guy Macon|2019-08-16T15:02:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-08-16T14:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Bawolff|2019-08-21T20:55:00.000Z|Guy Macon|2019-08-16T15:02:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-16T15:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Guy Macon&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Guy Macon|2019-08-16T15:02:00.000Z|MusikAnimal|2019-08-16T14:57:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bawolff|2019-08-21T20:55:00.000Z|Guy Macon|2019-08-16T15:02:00.000Z"></span>Indirect, but probably one way of doing this would be to look at when sudden spurts of activity happen in logs of the #wikimedia-operations irc channel. Downtime usually corresponds with a lot of people asking what is going on, and a lot of spam from monitoring bots. You can also look at the pretty charts at grafana, like this one of edit rate <a class="external autonumber" href="https://grafana.wikimedia.org/d/000000208/edit-count?refresh=5m&amp;orgId=1">[50]</a> (As if the site is down, the editing stops). <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bawolff" title="User:Bawolff">Bawolff</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bawolff" title="User talk:Bawolff">talk</a>) 20:55, 21 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bawolff|2019-08-21T20:55:00.000Z|Guy Macon|2019-08-16T15:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-21T20:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bawolff&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bawolff|2019-08-21T20:55:00.000Z|Guy Macon|2019-08-16T15:02:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Bad_autocomplete_on_edit_summaries" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Bad_autocomplete_on_edit_summaries|2019-08-21T00:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Cobaltcigs|2019-08-21T00:05:00.000Z|Bad_autocomplete_on_edit_summaries&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Bad_autocomplete_on_edit_summaries|2019-08-21T00:05:00.000Z"></span>Bad autocomplete on edit summaries<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Bad_autocomplete_on_edit_summaries|2019-08-21T00:05:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Cobaltcigs|2019-08-21T00:05:00.000Z|Bad_autocomplete_on_edit_summaries"></span>So I've got this workflow problem where I'll click on the edit summary box, move the mouse cursor down to the "save" button, then type or paste an edit summary, and this annoying menu of unrelated edit summaries will pop up behind the mouse cursor. And because my mouse happens to be over this menu (even without clicking) (usually trying to move away from it and make it go away) whatever edit summarily I've entered will be replaced by whatever random thing is under the mouse cursor. Looks like <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://i.imgur.com/gizEmfX.png">this</a>.
-</p><p>I had assumed this was some kind of browser feature for which I can't find the setting to turn it off, but then I considered that its degree of responsiveness is laggy to actually be a mediawiki javascript feature instead. Whatever it is, I just want to make it go away. I'm using Chromium "Version 76.0.3809.100 (Official Build) Built on Ubuntu, running on Ubuntu 18.04 (64-bit)" and the monobook skin, if any of that matters. ―<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/cobaltcigs" title="Special:Contributions/cobaltcigs">cobaltcigs</a> 00:05, 21 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Cobaltcigs|2019-08-21T00:05:00.000Z|Bad_autocomplete_on_edit_summaries&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T00:39:00.000Z|Cobaltcigs|2019-08-21T00:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|SD0001|2019-08-21T12:37:00.000Z|Cobaltcigs|2019-08-21T00:05:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-21T00:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Cobaltcigs&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Cobaltcigs|2019-08-21T00:05:00.000Z|Bad_autocomplete_on_edit_summaries"></span>
+</p><p>I had assumed this was some kind of browser feature for which I can't find the setting to turn it off, but then I considered that its degree of responsiveness is laggy to actually be a mediawiki javascript feature instead. Whatever it is, I just want to make it go away. I'm using Chromium "Version 76.0.3809.100 (Official Build) Built on Ubuntu, running on Ubuntu 18.04 (64-bit)" and the monobook skin, if any of that matters. ―<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/cobaltcigs" title="Special:Contributions/cobaltcigs">cobaltcigs</a> 00:05, 21 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Cobaltcigs|2019-08-21T00:05:00.000Z|Bad_autocomplete_on_edit_summaries&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T00:39:00.000Z|Cobaltcigs|2019-08-21T00:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|SD0001|2019-08-21T12:37:00.000Z|Cobaltcigs|2019-08-21T00:05:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-21T00:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Cobaltcigs&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Cobaltcigs|2019-08-21T00:05:00.000Z|Bad_autocomplete_on_edit_summaries"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T00:39:00.000Z|Cobaltcigs|2019-08-21T00:05:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cobaltcigs" title="User:Cobaltcigs">Cobaltcigs</a>:</span> Mediawiki doesn't have autocomplete for edit summaries, this is from your browser. To verify, you can try to use a different browser.  Your browser should have a clear option for autofill. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 00:39, 21 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T00:39:00.000Z|Cobaltcigs|2019-08-21T00:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-21T00:54:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T00:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-21T01:10:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T00:39:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-21T00:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T00:39:00.000Z|Cobaltcigs|2019-08-21T00:05:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Izno|2019-08-21T00:54:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T00:39:00.000Z"></span>The VisualEditor does autocomplete for edit summaries in a way custom to VE based on your most-recent N (200?) edit summaries. Other editors don't. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 00:54, 21 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-21T00:54:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T00:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-21T00:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Izno&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Izno|2019-08-21T00:54:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T00:39:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RoySmith|2019-08-21T01:10:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T00:39:00.000Z"></span>Heh.  I reported this problem <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/RoySmith&amp;oldid=24571916">14 years ago</a>.  -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> 01:10, 21 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-21T01:10:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T00:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T01:24:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-21T01:10:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-21T01:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RoySmith&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RoySmith|2019-08-21T01:10:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T00:39:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T01:24:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-21T01:10:00.000Z"></span>Ohhhh this is some possible VE issue?  <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cobaltcigs" title="User:Cobaltcigs">Cobaltcigs</a>:</span> are you using the Visual Editor? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 01:24, 21 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T01:24:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-21T01:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T01:26:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T01:24:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-21T01:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T01:24:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-21T01:10:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T01:26:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T01:24:00.000Z"></span>Strike that, your imgur.com SS shows this is in the wikitext editor, so back to it's your browser.  You can verify with another browser. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 01:26, 21 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T01:26:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T01:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-21T01:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T01:26:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T01:24:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T00:39:00.000Z|Cobaltcigs|2019-08-21T00:05:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cobaltcigs" title="User:Cobaltcigs">Cobaltcigs</a>:</span> Mediawiki doesn't have autocomplete for edit summaries, this is from your browser. To verify, you can try to use a different browser.  Your browser should have a clear option for autofill. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 00:39, 21 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T00:39:00.000Z|Cobaltcigs|2019-08-21T00:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-21T00:54:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T00:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-21T01:10:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T00:39:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-21T00:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T00:39:00.000Z|Cobaltcigs|2019-08-21T00:05:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Izno|2019-08-21T00:54:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T00:39:00.000Z"></span>The VisualEditor does autocomplete for edit summaries in a way custom to VE based on your most-recent N (200?) edit summaries. Other editors don't. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 00:54, 21 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-21T00:54:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T00:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-21T00:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Izno&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Izno|2019-08-21T00:54:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T00:39:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RoySmith|2019-08-21T01:10:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T00:39:00.000Z"></span>Heh.  I reported this problem <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/RoySmith&amp;oldid=24571916">14 years ago</a>.  -- <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> 01:10, 21 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RoySmith|2019-08-21T01:10:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T00:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T01:24:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-21T01:10:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-21T01:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RoySmith&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RoySmith|2019-08-21T01:10:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T00:39:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T01:24:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-21T01:10:00.000Z"></span>Ohhhh this is some possible VE issue?  <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cobaltcigs" title="User:Cobaltcigs">Cobaltcigs</a>:</span> are you using the Visual Editor? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 01:24, 21 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T01:24:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-21T01:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T01:26:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T01:24:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-21T01:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T01:24:00.000Z|RoySmith|2019-08-21T01:10:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T01:26:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T01:24:00.000Z"></span>Strike that, your imgur.com SS shows this is in the wikitext editor, so back to it's your browser.  You can verify with another browser. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 01:26, 21 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T01:26:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T01:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-21T01:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T01:26:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T01:24:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
 <dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SD0001|2019-08-21T12:37:00.000Z|Cobaltcigs|2019-08-21T00:05:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cobaltcigs" title="User:Cobaltcigs">Cobaltcigs</a>:</span> You can make the edit summary autocomplete menu go away completely by adding the following code to <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MyPage/common.js" title="Special:MyPage/common.js">your common.js page</a>:</dd>
 <dd><div class="mw-highlight mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"><pre><span></span><span class="nx">$</span><span class="p">(</span><span class="s1">'#wpSummary'</span><span class="p">).</span><span class="nx">attr</span><span class="p">(</span><span class="s1">'autocomplete'</span><span class="p">,</span> <span class="s1">'off'</span><span class="p">);</span>
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-<dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SD0001" title="User:SD0001">SD0001</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SD0001" title="User talk:SD0001">talk</a>) 12:37, 21 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SD0001|2019-08-21T12:37:00.000Z|Cobaltcigs|2019-08-21T00:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-08-21T22:05:00.000Z|SD0001|2019-08-21T12:37:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-21T12:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SD0001&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SD0001|2019-08-21T12:37:00.000Z|Cobaltcigs|2019-08-21T00:05:00.000Z"></span>
+<dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SD0001" title="User:SD0001">SD0001</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SD0001" title="User talk:SD0001">talk</a>) 12:37, 21 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SD0001|2019-08-21T12:37:00.000Z|Cobaltcigs|2019-08-21T00:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-08-21T22:05:00.000Z|SD0001|2019-08-21T12:37:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-21T12:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SD0001&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SD0001|2019-08-21T12:37:00.000Z|Cobaltcigs|2019-08-21T00:05:00.000Z"></span>
 <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|קיפודנחש|2019-08-21T22:05:00.000Z|SD0001|2019-08-21T12:37:00.000Z"></span>nice tip. i was not aware of this attribute. two minor comments:
 <ol><li>according to <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Attributes/autocomplete">[51]</a>, support for this attribute is relatively new on FF, and does not exist for IE browsers. if you use IE, too bad, and if you use FF, you need version 67 or higher (current is 68).</li>
 <li>the snippet posted by SD0001 may not always work: if your common.js happen to finish loading before the page is fully formed, it can be a miss. you probably want something like <div class="mw-highlight mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"><pre><span></span><span class="nx">$</span><span class="p">(</span><span class="kd">function</span><span class="p">()</span> <span class="p">{</span> <span class="nx">$</span><span class="p">(</span><span class="s1">'#wpSummary'</span><span class="p">).</span><span class="nx">attr</span><span class="p">(</span><span class="s1">'autocomplete'</span><span class="p">,</span> <span class="s1">'off'</span><span class="p">);</span> <span class="p">});</span>
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-<dd>peace - <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%93%D7%A0%D7%97%D7%A9" title="User:קיפודנחש">קיפודנחש (aka kipod)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%93%D7%A0%D7%97%D7%A9" title="User talk:קיפודנחש">talk</a>) 22:05, 21 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-08-21T22:05:00.000Z|SD0001|2019-08-21T12:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-21T22:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|קיפודנחש|2019-08-21T22:05:00.000Z|SD0001|2019-08-21T12:37:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dd>peace - <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%93%D7%A0%D7%97%D7%A9" title="User:קיפודנחש">קיפודנחש (aka kipod)</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%93%D7%A0%D7%97%D7%A9" title="User talk:קיפודנחש">talk</a>) 22:05, 21 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9|2019-08-21T22:05:00.000Z|SD0001|2019-08-21T12:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-21T22:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u05e7\u05d9\u05e4\u05d5\u05d3\u05e0\u05d7\u05e9&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|קיפודנחש|2019-08-21T22:05:00.000Z|SD0001|2019-08-21T12:37:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id="Is_this_code_safe.3F"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Is_this_code_safe?" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Is_this_code_safe?|2019-08-21T04:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Humorous1234|2019-08-21T04:57:00.000Z|Is_this_code_safe?&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Is_this_code_safe?|2019-08-21T04:57:00.000Z"></span>Is this code safe?<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Is_this_code_safe?|2019-08-21T04:57:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Humorous1234|2019-08-21T04:57:00.000Z|Is_this_code_safe?"></span>importScript('User:Primefac/revdel.js'); // Linkback: <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Primefac/revdel.js" title="User:Primefac/revdel.js">User:Primefac/revdel.js</a>
 Thanks!
-</p><p><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Humorous1234" title="User:Humorous1234">Sincerely, Humorous.</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Humorous1234" title="User talk:Humorous1234">talk</a>) 04:57, 21 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Humorous1234|2019-08-21T04:57:00.000Z|Is_this_code_safe?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DannyS712|2019-08-21T05:02:00.000Z|Humorous1234|2019-08-21T04:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|QEDK|2019-08-21T17:09:00.000Z|Humorous1234|2019-08-21T04:57:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-21T04:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Humorous1234&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Humorous1234|2019-08-21T04:57:00.000Z|Is_this_code_safe?"></span>
+</p><p><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Humorous1234" title="User:Humorous1234">Sincerely, Humorous.</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Humorous1234" title="User talk:Humorous1234">talk</a>) 04:57, 21 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Humorous1234|2019-08-21T04:57:00.000Z|Is_this_code_safe?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DannyS712|2019-08-21T05:02:00.000Z|Humorous1234|2019-08-21T04:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|QEDK|2019-08-21T17:09:00.000Z|Humorous1234|2019-08-21T04:57:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-21T04:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Humorous1234&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Humorous1234|2019-08-21T04:57:00.000Z|Is_this_code_safe?"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DannyS712|2019-08-21T05:02:00.000Z|Humorous1234|2019-08-21T04:57:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Humorous1234" title="User:Humorous1234">Humorous1234</a>:</span> that code just imports <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Enterprisey/cv-revdel.js" title="User:Enterprisey/cv-revdel.js">User:Enterprisey/cv-revdel.js</a> - Enterprisey is a great script writer, and their code can be trusted. It is safe <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DannyS712" title="User:DannyS712">DannyS712</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DannyS712" title="User talk:DannyS712">talk</a>) 05:02, 21 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DannyS712|2019-08-21T05:02:00.000Z|Humorous1234|2019-08-21T04:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-21T05:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DannyS712&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DannyS712|2019-08-21T05:02:00.000Z|Humorous1234|2019-08-21T04:57:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-08-21T17:09:00.000Z|Humorous1234|2019-08-21T04:57:00.000Z"></span>VPT is for technical issues. While the question is certainly valid, the instructions on the top of your .js page already state that you should trust the code you're putting into your script page, code which is accessible already, at the linkback link above and you can check it yourself before adding it to your script page. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK">qedk</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK">t</a> <span style="color:#fac">桜</span> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK">c</a>)</span> 17:09, 21 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-08-21T17:09:00.000Z|Humorous1234|2019-08-21T04:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T17:24:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-08-21T17:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T17:28:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-08-21T17:09:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-21T17:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-08-21T17:09:00.000Z|Humorous1234|2019-08-21T04:57:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T17:24:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-08-21T17:09:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK">QEDK</a>:</span> that <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Jswarning" title="MediaWiki:Jswarning">warning message</a> does specifically refer anyone with questions to this page. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 17:24, 21 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T17:24:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-08-21T17:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-21T17:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T17:24:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-08-21T17:09:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T17:28:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-08-21T17:09:00.000Z"></span>To the OP, the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Enterprisey/cv-revdel" title="User:Enterprisey/cv-revdel">User:Enterprisey/cv-revdel</a> script is currently "safe", and the current owner is trusted to keep scripts safe.  As DannyS712 mentioned, you should just use the direct loaded version following the directions at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Enterprisey/cv-revdel" title="User:Enterprisey/cv-revdel">User:Enterprisey/cv-revdel</a>.  When importing someone else's script keep in mind that it could break, change, be removed, or be abandoned at any time. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 17:28, 21 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T17:28:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-08-21T17:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Humorous1234|2019-08-22T03:16:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T17:28:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-21T17:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T17:28:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-08-21T17:09:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Humorous1234|2019-08-22T03:16:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T17:28:00.000Z"></span>Thank you! <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Humorous1234" title="User:Humorous1234">Sincerely, Humorous.</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Humorous1234" title="User talk:Humorous1234">talk</a>) 03:16, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Humorous1234|2019-08-22T03:16:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T17:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T03:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Humorous1234&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Humorous1234|2019-08-22T03:16:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T17:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DannyS712|2019-08-21T05:02:00.000Z|Humorous1234|2019-08-21T04:57:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Humorous1234" title="User:Humorous1234">Humorous1234</a>:</span> that code just imports <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Enterprisey/cv-revdel.js" title="User:Enterprisey/cv-revdel.js">User:Enterprisey/cv-revdel.js</a> - Enterprisey is a great script writer, and their code can be trusted. It is safe <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DannyS712" title="User:DannyS712">DannyS712</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DannyS712" title="User talk:DannyS712">talk</a>) 05:02, 21 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DannyS712|2019-08-21T05:02:00.000Z|Humorous1234|2019-08-21T04:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-21T05:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DannyS712&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|DannyS712|2019-08-21T05:02:00.000Z|Humorous1234|2019-08-21T04:57:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|QEDK|2019-08-21T17:09:00.000Z|Humorous1234|2019-08-21T04:57:00.000Z"></span>VPT is for technical issues. While the question is certainly valid, the instructions on the top of your .js page already state that you should trust the code you're putting into your script page, code which is accessible already, at the linkback link above and you can check it yourself before adding it to your script page. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK">qedk</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:QEDK" title="User talk:QEDK">t</a> <span style="color:#fac">桜</span> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/QEDK" title="Special:Contributions/QEDK">c</a>)</span> 17:09, 21 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|QEDK|2019-08-21T17:09:00.000Z|Humorous1234|2019-08-21T04:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T17:24:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-08-21T17:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T17:28:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-08-21T17:09:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-21T17:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;QEDK&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|QEDK|2019-08-21T17:09:00.000Z|Humorous1234|2019-08-21T04:57:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T17:24:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-08-21T17:09:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QEDK" title="User:QEDK">QEDK</a>:</span> that <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Jswarning" title="MediaWiki:Jswarning">warning message</a> does specifically refer anyone with questions to this page. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 17:24, 21 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T17:24:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-08-21T17:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-21T17:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T17:24:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-08-21T17:09:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T17:28:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-08-21T17:09:00.000Z"></span>To the OP, the <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Enterprisey/cv-revdel" title="User:Enterprisey/cv-revdel">User:Enterprisey/cv-revdel</a> script is currently "safe", and the current owner is trusted to keep scripts safe.  As DannyS712 mentioned, you should just use the direct loaded version following the directions at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Enterprisey/cv-revdel" title="User:Enterprisey/cv-revdel">User:Enterprisey/cv-revdel</a>.  When importing someone else's script keep in mind that it could break, change, be removed, or be abandoned at any time. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 17:28, 21 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T17:28:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-08-21T17:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Humorous1234|2019-08-22T03:16:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T17:28:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-21T17:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T17:28:00.000Z|QEDK|2019-08-21T17:09:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Humorous1234|2019-08-22T03:16:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T17:28:00.000Z"></span>Thank you! <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Humorous1234" title="User:Humorous1234">Sincerely, Humorous.</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Humorous1234" title="User talk:Humorous1234">talk</a>) 03:16, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Humorous1234|2019-08-22T03:16:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T17:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T03:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Humorous1234&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Humorous1234|2019-08-22T03:16:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-21T17:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Two-Factor_Authentication" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Two-Factor_Authentication|2019-08-22T13:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|\u00c9pine|2019-08-22T13:44:00.000Z|Two-Factor_Authentication&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Two-Factor_Authentication|2019-08-22T13:44:00.000Z"></span>Two-Factor Authentication<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Two-Factor_Authentication|2019-08-22T13:44:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Épine|2019-08-22T13:44:00.000Z|Two-Factor_Authentication"></span>Hey guys! Where can I see the rescue codes for my TFA? I lost access to the device that generated the codes for me, now I don’t know how to access it on my new device. •_•--▸ ‎<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%C3%89pine" title="User:Épine"><b style="color:purple;font-size:13px;display:inline-block;border:1px solid purple">épine</b></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%C3%89pine" title="User talk:Épine"><sub><b style="color:black;font-size:11px">talk</b><span style="color:purple">♬</span></sub></a> 13:44, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u00c9pine|2019-08-22T13:44:00.000Z|Two-Factor_Authentication&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T13:47:00.000Z|\u00c9pine|2019-08-22T13:44:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T13:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u00c9pine&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Épine|2019-08-22T13:44:00.000Z|Two-Factor_Authentication"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Épine|2019-08-22T13:44:00.000Z|Two-Factor_Authentication"></span>Hey guys! Where can I see the rescue codes for my TFA? I lost access to the device that generated the codes for me, now I don’t know how to access it on my new device. •_•--▸ ‎<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%C3%89pine" title="User:Épine"><b style="color:purple;font-size:13px;display:inline-block;border:1px solid purple">épine</b></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%C3%89pine" title="User talk:Épine"><sub><b style="color:black;font-size:11px">talk</b><span style="color:purple">♬</span></sub></a> 13:44, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u00c9pine|2019-08-22T13:44:00.000Z|Two-Factor_Authentication&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T13:47:00.000Z|\u00c9pine|2019-08-22T13:44:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T13:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u00c9pine&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Épine|2019-08-22T13:44:00.000Z|Two-Factor_Authentication"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T13:47:00.000Z|Épine|2019-08-22T13:44:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%C3%89pine" title="User:Épine">Épine</a>:</span> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Two-factor_authentication#Scratch_codes" title="Help:Two-factor authentication">Scratch Codes</a> would be wherever <b>you</b> securely stored them.  <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r886049556"/><q class="inline-quote-talk"><i>You only see these codes while setting up 2FA (and never again), so copy them from your browser and save them offline in a safe place (e.g. on a memory stick or paper printout). If you don't keep these codes and encounter a problem with your 2FA device, you will be locked out of your account.</i></q> — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 13:47, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T13:47:00.000Z|\u00c9pine|2019-08-22T13:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|\u00c9pine|2019-08-22T13:50:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T13:47:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T13:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T13:47:00.000Z|Épine|2019-08-22T13:44:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Épine|2019-08-22T13:50:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T13:47:00.000Z"></span>Oh no. I’m screwed.--▸ ‎<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%C3%89pine" title="User:Épine"><b style="color:purple;font-size:13px;display:inline-block;border:1px solid purple">épine</b></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%C3%89pine" title="User talk:Épine"><sub><b style="color:black;font-size:11px">talk</b><span style="color:purple">♬</span></sub></a> 13:50, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u00c9pine|2019-08-22T13:50:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T13:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T13:52:00.000Z|\u00c9pine|2019-08-22T13:50:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T13:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u00c9pine&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Épine|2019-08-22T13:50:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T13:47:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T13:52:00.000Z|Épine|2019-08-22T13:50:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%C3%89pine" title="User:Épine">Épine</a>:</span> You can attempt to create a phabricator request to remove your 2FA settings, assign it to <a class="external text" href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/trust-and-safety/">WMF T&amp;S</a>. It will be up to them if they are willing to work on this. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 13:52, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T13:52:00.000Z|\u00c9pine|2019-08-22T13:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|\u00c9pine|2019-08-22T13:56:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T13:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T13:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T13:52:00.000Z|Épine|2019-08-22T13:50:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Épine|2019-08-22T13:56:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T13:52:00.000Z"></span>I just found out that I backed up three of those rescue codes to my cloud! Thanks though! Appreciate the help. I won’t be gone for good I guess ^_^--▸ ‎<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%C3%89pine" title="User:Épine"><b style="color:purple;font-size:13px;display:inline-block;border:1px solid purple">épine</b></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%C3%89pine" title="User talk:Épine"><sub><b style="color:black;font-size:11px">talk</b><span style="color:purple">♬</span></sub></a> 13:56, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u00c9pine|2019-08-22T13:56:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T13:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T14:01:00.000Z|\u00c9pine|2019-08-22T13:56:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T13:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u00c9pine&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Épine|2019-08-22T13:56:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T13:52:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T14:01:00.000Z|Épine|2019-08-22T13:56:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%C3%89pine" title="User:Épine">Épine</a>:</span> good deal! Just unenroll and reenroll, it will make you 10 new scratch codes.  Be sure to reenroll so you don't loose your int-admin access on ckbwiki. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 14:01, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T14:01:00.000Z|\u00c9pine|2019-08-22T13:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T14:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T14:01:00.000Z|Épine|2019-08-22T13:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T13:47:00.000Z|Épine|2019-08-22T13:44:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%C3%89pine" title="User:Épine">Épine</a>:</span> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Two-factor_authentication#Scratch_codes" title="Help:Two-factor authentication">Scratch Codes</a> would be wherever <b>you</b> securely stored them.  <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r886049556"/><q class="inline-quote-talk"><i>You only see these codes while setting up 2FA (and never again), so copy them from your browser and save them offline in a safe place (e.g. on a memory stick or paper printout). If you don't keep these codes and encounter a problem with your 2FA device, you will be locked out of your account.</i></q> — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 13:47, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T13:47:00.000Z|\u00c9pine|2019-08-22T13:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|\u00c9pine|2019-08-22T13:50:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T13:47:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T13:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T13:47:00.000Z|Épine|2019-08-22T13:44:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Épine|2019-08-22T13:50:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T13:47:00.000Z"></span>Oh no. I’m screwed.--▸ ‎<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%C3%89pine" title="User:Épine"><b style="color:purple;font-size:13px;display:inline-block;border:1px solid purple">épine</b></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%C3%89pine" title="User talk:Épine"><sub><b style="color:black;font-size:11px">talk</b><span style="color:purple">♬</span></sub></a> 13:50, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u00c9pine|2019-08-22T13:50:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T13:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T13:52:00.000Z|\u00c9pine|2019-08-22T13:50:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T13:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u00c9pine&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Épine|2019-08-22T13:50:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T13:47:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T13:52:00.000Z|Épine|2019-08-22T13:50:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%C3%89pine" title="User:Épine">Épine</a>:</span> You can attempt to create a phabricator request to remove your 2FA settings, assign it to <a class="external text" href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/trust-and-safety/">WMF T&amp;S</a>. It will be up to them if they are willing to work on this. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 13:52, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T13:52:00.000Z|\u00c9pine|2019-08-22T13:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|\u00c9pine|2019-08-22T13:56:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T13:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T13:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T13:52:00.000Z|Épine|2019-08-22T13:50:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Épine|2019-08-22T13:56:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T13:52:00.000Z"></span>I just found out that I backed up three of those rescue codes to my cloud! Thanks though! Appreciate the help. I won’t be gone for good I guess ^_^--▸ ‎<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%C3%89pine" title="User:Épine"><b style="color:purple;font-size:13px;display:inline-block;border:1px solid purple">épine</b></a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%C3%89pine" title="User talk:Épine"><sub><b style="color:black;font-size:11px">talk</b><span style="color:purple">♬</span></sub></a> 13:56, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u00c9pine|2019-08-22T13:56:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T13:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T14:01:00.000Z|\u00c9pine|2019-08-22T13:56:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T13:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u00c9pine&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Épine|2019-08-22T13:56:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T13:52:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T14:01:00.000Z|Épine|2019-08-22T13:56:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%C3%89pine" title="User:Épine">Épine</a>:</span> good deal! Just unenroll and reenroll, it will make you 10 new scratch codes.  Be sure to reenroll so you don't loose your int-admin access on ckbwiki. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 14:01, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T14:01:00.000Z|\u00c9pine|2019-08-22T13:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T14:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T14:01:00.000Z|Épine|2019-08-22T13:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template|2019-08-22T16:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T16:48:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template&quot;,&quot;c|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T17:43:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template&quot;,&quot;c|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T18:52:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template&quot;,&quot;c|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T19:11:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template&quot;,&quot;c|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T19:18:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template&quot;,&quot;c|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T19:45:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template|2019-08-22T16:48:00.000Z"></span>Wikimedia Commons stadium template<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template|2019-08-22T16:48:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T16:48:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template"></span>Hello! I am writing here for the first time, so I apologize if I write in the wrong section. 
 I would like to draw the attention of Wikipedia administrators one inaccuracy in the template for Belarusian stadiums on the Wikimedia Commons. In the LOCATION field, instead of the current 2019 administrative-territorial structure of the country outdated information from the year of construction of the sports facility is indicated.
 </p><p>It turns out such nonsense: Dynama Stadium, Minsk built in 1934, but instead of a location in the country BELARUS, the card in the description indicates the states that existed in the 1930s on the territory of modern BELARUS — Lithuanian–Belorussian Soviet Socialist Republic, Byelorussian Soviet Socialist Republic.
 </p><p>Same thing with Central Stadium, Gomel. The stadium was built in the 1920s, but Gomel Povet and Mogilyov Viceroyalty no longer exists. By administrative-territorial structure of the Republic of BELARUS for 2019 all cities is part of the district, then the region, then the country. The capital city of Minsk is a separate administrative unit within BELARUS.
 </p><p>In this regard, I ask administrators to make the necessary changes to the card on the Wikimedia Commons for Belarusian stadiums so that outdated information does not mislead readers. If you want to make sure the veracity of my arguments, I can connect administrators from the Belarusian Wikipedia to the discussion. We will provide links to the official administrative-territorial structure of the Republic of BELARUS for the current time of 2019.
-</p><p>Thanks for attention! --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Football_Beetle" title="User:Football Beetle">Football Beetle</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Football_Beetle&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Football Beetle (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 16:48, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T16:48:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T17:31:00.000Z|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T16:48:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T16:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Football Beetle&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T16:48:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template"></span>
+</p><p>Thanks for attention! --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Football_Beetle" title="User:Football Beetle">Football Beetle</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Football_Beetle&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Football Beetle (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 16:48, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T16:48:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T17:31:00.000Z|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T16:48:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T16:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Football Beetle&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T16:48:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T17:31:00.000Z|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T16:48:00.000Z"></span>Hi <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Football_Beetle" title="User:Football Beetle">Football Beetle</a>:</span> can you copy and paste the link to the page where you are seeing this below? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 17:31, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T17:31:00.000Z|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T16:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T17:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T17:31:00.000Z|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T16:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T17:43:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template"></span>Of course. Here are three different stadiums for example: <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinamo_Stadium_(Minsk)" title="Dinamo Stadium (Minsk)">Dinamo Stadium (Minsk)</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traktor_Stadium" title="Traktor Stadium">Traktor Stadium</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Stadium_(Gomel)" title="Central Stadium (Gomel)">Central Stadium (Gomel)</a>. And at this stadium <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borisov_Arena" title="Borisov Arena">Borisov Arena</a> on the Wikimedia Commons LOCATION is indicated correctly. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Football_Beetle" title="User:Football Beetle">Football Beetle</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Football_Beetle&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Football Beetle (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 17:43, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T17:43:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-22T18:17:00.000Z|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T17:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T18:21:00.000Z|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T17:43:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T17:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Football Beetle&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T17:43:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T17:31:00.000Z|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T16:48:00.000Z"></span>Hi <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Football_Beetle" title="User:Football Beetle">Football Beetle</a>:</span> can you copy and paste the link to the page where you are seeing this below? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 17:31, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T17:31:00.000Z|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T16:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T17:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T17:31:00.000Z|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T16:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T17:43:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template"></span>Of course. Here are three different stadiums for example: <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinamo_Stadium_(Minsk)" title="Dinamo Stadium (Minsk)">Dinamo Stadium (Minsk)</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traktor_Stadium" title="Traktor Stadium">Traktor Stadium</a>, <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Stadium_(Gomel)" title="Central Stadium (Gomel)">Central Stadium (Gomel)</a>. And at this stadium <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borisov_Arena" title="Borisov Arena">Borisov Arena</a> on the Wikimedia Commons LOCATION is indicated correctly. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Football_Beetle" title="User:Football Beetle">Football Beetle</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Football_Beetle&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Football Beetle (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 17:43, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T17:43:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-22T18:17:00.000Z|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T17:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T18:21:00.000Z|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T17:43:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T17:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Football Beetle&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T17:43:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-22T18:17:00.000Z|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T17:43:00.000Z"></span>I still don't know what you refer to with "the card on the Wikimedia Commons for Belarusian stadiums". Please give precise steps to reproduce an example of the issue, e.g. "Click on <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinamo_Stadium_(Minsk)" title="Dinamo Stadium (Minsk)">Dinamo Stadium (Minsk)</a>, click on the coordinates in the infobox or do something else, click on X, now there is a map/box/whatever which says Y but should have said Z." <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 18:17, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-22T18:17:00.000Z|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T17:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T18:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-22T18:17:00.000Z|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T17:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
-<dl><dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T18:21:00.000Z|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T17:43:00.000Z"></span>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Edit_conflict" title="Help:Edit conflict">edit conflict</a>)</small> <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Football_Beetle" title="User:Football Beetle">Football Beetle</a>:</span> OK, I think I've unraveled this.  To summarize: You <u>are not</u> seeing a problem with the encyclopedia articles here on the English Wikipedia.  You <u>do</u> think there is a problem with the data on certain pages at Wikimedia Commons, for example: <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Dynama_Stadium,_Minsk" class="extiw" title="commons:Category:Dynama Stadium, Minsk">commons:Category:Dynama Stadium, Minsk</a>.  For pages such as that on Wikimedia Commons, that data is usually generated via a template there, <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikidata_Infobox" class="extiw" title="commons:Template:Wikidata Infobox">commons:Template:Wikidata Infobox</a>, which in turn gets values from another project, WikiData.  There should be a blue pencil icon at the bottom of those Infoboxes on commons that you can use to go to WikiData then make appropriate edits.  For example, <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4439085" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Q4439085">wikidata:Q4439085</a> has location properties (e.g. <i>located in the administrative territorial entity</i>) that you can update.  Assuming this is correct, there is nothing that the English Wikipedia editors would directly do about this, but you can edit them directly.  Does that help? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 18:21, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T18:21:00.000Z|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T17:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T18:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T18:21:00.000Z|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T17:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-22T18:17:00.000Z|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T17:43:00.000Z"></span>I still don't know what you refer to with "the card on the Wikimedia Commons for Belarusian stadiums". Please give precise steps to reproduce an example of the issue, e.g. "Click on <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinamo_Stadium_(Minsk)" title="Dinamo Stadium (Minsk)">Dinamo Stadium (Minsk)</a>, click on the coordinates in the infobox or do something else, click on X, now there is a map/box/whatever which says Y but should have said Z." <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 18:17, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-22T18:17:00.000Z|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T17:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T18:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-22T18:17:00.000Z|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T17:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T18:21:00.000Z|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T17:43:00.000Z"></span>(<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Edit_conflict" title="Help:Edit conflict">edit conflict</a>)</small> <span class="template-ping">@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Football_Beetle" title="User:Football Beetle">Football Beetle</a>:</span> OK, I think I've unraveled this.  To summarize: You <u>are not</u> seeing a problem with the encyclopedia articles here on the English Wikipedia.  You <u>do</u> think there is a problem with the data on certain pages at Wikimedia Commons, for example: <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Dynama_Stadium,_Minsk" class="extiw" title="commons:Category:Dynama Stadium, Minsk">commons:Category:Dynama Stadium, Minsk</a>.  For pages such as that on Wikimedia Commons, that data is usually generated via a template there, <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikidata_Infobox" class="extiw" title="commons:Template:Wikidata Infobox">commons:Template:Wikidata Infobox</a>, which in turn gets values from another project, WikiData.  There should be a blue pencil icon at the bottom of those Infoboxes on commons that you can use to go to WikiData then make appropriate edits.  For example, <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4439085" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Q4439085">wikidata:Q4439085</a> has location properties (e.g. <i>located in the administrative territorial entity</i>) that you can update.  Assuming this is correct, there is nothing that the English Wikipedia editors would directly do about this, but you can edit them directly.  Does that help? — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 18:21, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T18:21:00.000Z|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T17:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T18:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T18:21:00.000Z|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T17:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T18:52:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template"></span>I will now explain in detail the essence of the problem. You correctly said that you first need to enter information about location of the stadium on WikiData. If the stadium was built in 2014, then on the Wikimedia Commons page of this stadium in the table in the upper right (Wikidata Infobox), the location is correct — Borisov, Borisov district, Minsk region, Belarus. And if the stadium was built in 1934, then information on the countries that existed on the territory of modern Belarus is indicated on the Wikimedia Commons. These countries and their parts were in the 1930s, but now they are no longer there. And on the page of the stadium on the Wikimedia Commons they are indicated, which misleads the reader. At the moment, all Belarusian stadiums are located on the territory of the Republic of Belarus and its administrative parts.
-</p><p>If this issue cannot be resolved with the administrators of the English Wikipedia, should I write the same thing to the administrators of the Wikimedia Commons? Just administrators from Belarus are not there, so I decided to write here first. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Football_Beetle" title="User:Football Beetle">Football Beetle</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Football_Beetle&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Football Beetle (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 18:52, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T18:52:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T18:58:00.000Z|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T18:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T18:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Football Beetle&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T18:52:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template"></span>
+</p><p>If this issue cannot be resolved with the administrators of the English Wikipedia, should I write the same thing to the administrators of the Wikimedia Commons? Just administrators from Belarus are not there, so I decided to write here first. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Football_Beetle" title="User:Football Beetle">Football Beetle</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Football_Beetle&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Football Beetle (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 18:52, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T18:52:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T18:58:00.000Z|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T18:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T18:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Football Beetle&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T18:52:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T18:58:00.000Z|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T18:52:00.000Z"></span>It doesn't look like you need an administrator at all, just go to the wikidata entry and make the improvement by editing it. Even if these were pages and values here on the English Wikipedia, "administrators" don't have any special authority over "content", anyone is welcome to make productive content updates at any time. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 18:58, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T18:58:00.000Z|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T18:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T18:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T18:58:00.000Z|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T18:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T19:11:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template"></span>A simple example. I recently edited an article <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traktor_Stadium" title="Traktor Stadium">Traktor Stadium</a>, made the necessary changes about the location here <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2464927" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Q2464927">wikidata:Q2464927</a>, but in Wikidata Infobox here <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Traktar_Stadium" class="extiw" title="commons:Category:Traktar Stadium">commons:Category:Traktar Stadium</a> it is not written LOCATION - MINSK, BELARUS, but it is written Minsk, Byelorussian Soviet Socialist Republic, Lithuanian–Belorussian Soviet Socialist Republic. Why? --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Football_Beetle" title="User:Football Beetle">Football Beetle</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Football_Beetle&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Football Beetle (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 19:11, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T19:11:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T19:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Football Beetle&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T19:11:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template"></span>
-</p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T19:18:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template"></span>Now is the year 2019, not the 1950s. The indicated information is outdated and does not correspond to reality. This is the same if you write about the stadiums in Germany built in the 1930s on the Wikimedia Commons: LOCATION - BERLIN, THIRD REICH, instead of Berlin, Federal Republic of Germany. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Football_Beetle" title="User:Football Beetle">Football Beetle</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Football_Beetle&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Football Beetle (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 19:18, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T19:18:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T19:27:00.000Z|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T19:18:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T19:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Football Beetle&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T19:18:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T18:58:00.000Z|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T18:52:00.000Z"></span>It doesn't look like you need an administrator at all, just go to the wikidata entry and make the improvement by editing it. Even if these were pages and values here on the English Wikipedia, "administrators" don't have any special authority over "content", anyone is welcome to make productive content updates at any time. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 18:58, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T18:58:00.000Z|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T18:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T18:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T18:58:00.000Z|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T18:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T19:11:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template"></span>A simple example. I recently edited an article <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traktor_Stadium" title="Traktor Stadium">Traktor Stadium</a>, made the necessary changes about the location here <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2464927" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Q2464927">wikidata:Q2464927</a>, but in Wikidata Infobox here <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Traktar_Stadium" class="extiw" title="commons:Category:Traktar Stadium">commons:Category:Traktar Stadium</a> it is not written LOCATION - MINSK, BELARUS, but it is written Minsk, Byelorussian Soviet Socialist Republic, Lithuanian–Belorussian Soviet Socialist Republic. Why? --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Football_Beetle" title="User:Football Beetle">Football Beetle</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Football_Beetle&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Football Beetle (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 19:11, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T19:11:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T19:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Football Beetle&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T19:11:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template"></span>
+</p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T19:18:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template"></span>Now is the year 2019, not the 1950s. The indicated information is outdated and does not correspond to reality. This is the same if you write about the stadiums in Germany built in the 1930s on the Wikimedia Commons: LOCATION - BERLIN, THIRD REICH, instead of Berlin, Federal Republic of Germany. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Football_Beetle" title="User:Football Beetle">Football Beetle</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Football_Beetle&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Football Beetle (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 19:18, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T19:18:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T19:27:00.000Z|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T19:18:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T19:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Football Beetle&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T19:18:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T19:27:00.000Z|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T19:18:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Football_Beetle" title="User:Football Beetle">Football Beetle</a>:</span> well that's quite a complicated set of templates they have going on over there.  Your issue has nothing at all to do with the English Wikipedia, for technical assistance at Commons you can follow up at: <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Village_pump/Technical" class="extiw" title="commons:Village pump/Technical">Commons:Village pump/Technical</a>. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 19:27, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T19:27:00.000Z|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T19:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-22T19:27:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T19:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T19:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T19:27:00.000Z|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T19:18:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-22T19:27:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T19:27:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for finding the right link <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Dynama_Stadium,_Minsk" class="extiw" title="commons:Category:Dynama Stadium, Minsk">commons:Category:Dynama Stadium, Minsk</a> instead of the false links posted by the OP. It's not that easy to make the wanted change. <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1130487" class="extiw" title="d:Q1130487">Dinamo Stadium (Minsk) <small>(Q1130487)</small></a> says inception 1934 (when the stadium was built in Minsk). <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2280" class="extiw" title="d:Q2280">Minsk <small>(Q2280)</small></a> specifies "located in the administrative territorial entity" for Minsk at different times, e.g. "Byelorussian Soviet Socialist Republic" from 1930 to 1938. <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikidata_Infobox" class="extiw" title="commons:Template:Wikidata Infobox">commons:Template:Wikidata Infobox</a> apparently combines the construction year and correct location data for that year to say that the stadium is in the Byelorussian Soviet Socialist Republic. For a currently used facility like a stadium, it would be best to ignore the construction year and give the current location, but this choice may be hard to figure out for a template. I don't know how a user can fix it for this page without deleting the information in <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2280" class="extiw" title="d:Q2280">Minsk <small>(Q2280)</small></a> about where Minsk was located in the past. Don't do that. Such information has many other uses. This is really an issue for <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Wikidata_Infobox" class="extiw" title="commons:Template talk:Wikidata Infobox">commons:Template talk:Wikidata Infobox</a> and not the English Wikipedia. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 19:27, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-22T19:27:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T19:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T19:30:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-22T19:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T19:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-22T19:27:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T19:27:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T19:30:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-22T19:27:00.000Z"></span>Was just trying to unravel <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikidata_Infobox/core" class="extiw" title="commons:Template:Wikidata Infobox/core">commons:Template:Wikidata Infobox/core</a> - they could possibly add some more parameters to accept a "use date" to feed in to that beast of a template! — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 19:30, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T19:30:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-22T19:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T19:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T19:30:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-22T19:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T19:45:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template"></span>Thanks for answers! I'll start all over again in the discussion of the template <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Wikidata_Infobox" class="extiw" title="commons:Template talk:Wikidata Infobox">commons:Template talk:Wikidata Infobox</a>. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Football_Beetle" title="User:Football Beetle">Football Beetle</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Football_Beetle&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Football Beetle (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 19:45, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T19:45:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T19:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Football Beetle&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T19:45:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T19:27:00.000Z|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T19:18:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Football_Beetle" title="User:Football Beetle">Football Beetle</a>:</span> well that's quite a complicated set of templates they have going on over there.  Your issue has nothing at all to do with the English Wikipedia, for technical assistance at Commons you can follow up at: <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Village_pump/Technical" class="extiw" title="commons:Village pump/Technical">Commons:Village pump/Technical</a>. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 19:27, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T19:27:00.000Z|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T19:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-22T19:27:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T19:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T19:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T19:27:00.000Z|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T19:18:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-22T19:27:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T19:27:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for finding the right link <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Dynama_Stadium,_Minsk" class="extiw" title="commons:Category:Dynama Stadium, Minsk">commons:Category:Dynama Stadium, Minsk</a> instead of the false links posted by the OP. It's not that easy to make the wanted change. <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1130487" class="extiw" title="d:Q1130487">Dinamo Stadium (Minsk) <small>(Q1130487)</small></a> says inception 1934 (when the stadium was built in Minsk). <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2280" class="extiw" title="d:Q2280">Minsk <small>(Q2280)</small></a> specifies "located in the administrative territorial entity" for Minsk at different times, e.g. "Byelorussian Soviet Socialist Republic" from 1930 to 1938. <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikidata_Infobox" class="extiw" title="commons:Template:Wikidata Infobox">commons:Template:Wikidata Infobox</a> apparently combines the construction year and correct location data for that year to say that the stadium is in the Byelorussian Soviet Socialist Republic. For a currently used facility like a stadium, it would be best to ignore the construction year and give the current location, but this choice may be hard to figure out for a template. I don't know how a user can fix it for this page without deleting the information in <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2280" class="extiw" title="d:Q2280">Minsk <small>(Q2280)</small></a> about where Minsk was located in the past. Don't do that. Such information has many other uses. This is really an issue for <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Wikidata_Infobox" class="extiw" title="commons:Template talk:Wikidata Infobox">commons:Template talk:Wikidata Infobox</a> and not the English Wikipedia. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter" title="User:PrimeHunter">PrimeHunter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PrimeHunter" title="User talk:PrimeHunter">talk</a>) 19:27, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-22T19:27:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T19:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T19:30:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-22T19:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T19:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PrimeHunter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PrimeHunter|2019-08-22T19:27:00.000Z|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T19:27:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T19:30:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-22T19:27:00.000Z"></span>Was just trying to unravel <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikidata_Infobox/core" class="extiw" title="commons:Template:Wikidata Infobox/core">commons:Template:Wikidata Infobox/core</a> - they could possibly add some more parameters to accept a "use date" to feed in to that beast of a template! — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 19:30, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T19:30:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-22T19:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T19:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T19:30:00.000Z|PrimeHunter|2019-08-22T19:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T19:45:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template"></span>Thanks for answers! I'll start all over again in the discussion of the template <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Wikidata_Infobox" class="extiw" title="commons:Template talk:Wikidata Infobox">commons:Template talk:Wikidata Infobox</a>. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Football_Beetle" title="User:Football Beetle">Football Beetle</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Football_Beetle&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Football Beetle (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 19:45, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T19:45:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T19:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Football Beetle&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Football Beetle|2019-08-22T19:45:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Commons_stadium_template"></span>
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 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T05:35:00.000Z|Is_there_an_IsOnPage_magicword/function/whatever_thing?"></span>What I'm wondering about is if we have something that parses the current page, and returns and output based on it. For example, we can have
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-<p>So I'm trying to find a way to do that without angering the server gods.  <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> 05:35, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T05:35:00.000Z|Is_there_an_IsOnPage_magicword\/function\/whatever_thing?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|SD0001|2019-08-22T08:44:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-22T05:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Cryptic|2019-08-22T08:47:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-22T05:35:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T05:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Headbomb&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T05:35:00.000Z|Is_there_an_IsOnPage_magicword/function/whatever_thing?"></span>
+<p>So I'm trying to find a way to do that without angering the server gods.  <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> 05:35, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T05:35:00.000Z|Is_there_an_IsOnPage_magicword\/function\/whatever_thing?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|SD0001|2019-08-22T08:44:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-22T05:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Cryptic|2019-08-22T08:47:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-22T05:35:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T05:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Headbomb&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T05:35:00.000Z|Is_there_an_IsOnPage_magicword/function/whatever_thing?"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SD0001|2019-08-22T08:44:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-22T05:35:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a>:</span> this can be done using Lua. Create a mw.title object with the current page name, then the getContent() function on it would return the page content. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SD0001" title="User:SD0001">SD0001</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SD0001" title="User talk:SD0001">talk</a>) 08:44, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SD0001|2019-08-22T08:44:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-22T05:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T08:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SD0001&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SD0001|2019-08-22T08:44:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-22T05:35:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Cryptic|2019-08-22T08:47:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-22T05:35:00.000Z"></span>Put a &lt;noinclude> tag pair around it. —<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cryptic" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Cryptic">Cryptic</a> 08:47, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Cryptic|2019-08-22T08:47:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-22T05:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|SD0001|2019-08-22T09:00:00.000Z|Cryptic|2019-08-22T08:47:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T08:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Cryptic&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Cryptic|2019-08-22T08:47:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-22T05:35:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SD0001|2019-08-22T09:00:00.000Z|Cryptic|2019-08-22T08:47:00.000Z"></span>ahhh, that's definitely the simpler option! <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SD0001" title="User:SD0001">SD0001</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SD0001" title="User talk:SD0001">talk</a>) 09:00, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SD0001|2019-08-22T09:00:00.000Z|Cryptic|2019-08-22T08:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T13:47:00.000Z|SD0001|2019-08-22T09:00:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T09:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SD0001&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SD0001|2019-08-22T09:00:00.000Z|Cryptic|2019-08-22T08:47:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T13:47:00.000Z|SD0001|2019-08-22T09:00:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cryptic" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Cryptic">Cryptic</a>:</span> brilliant! Now to remember how to transclude noinclude tags... I have an example somewhere.  <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> 13:47, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T13:47:00.000Z|SD0001|2019-08-22T09:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T13:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Headbomb&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T13:47:00.000Z|SD0001|2019-08-22T09:00:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T16:15:00.000Z|Is_there_an_IsOnPage_magicword/function/whatever_thing?"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cryptic" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Cryptic">Cryptic</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SD0001" title="User:SD0001">SD0001</a>:</span>, just created {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:String_on_page" title="Template:String on page">String on page</a>}} and {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Count_on_page" title="Template:Count on page">Count on page</a>}}. Feel free to optimize if you know how.  <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> 16:15, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T16:15:00.000Z|Is_there_an_IsOnPage_magicword\/function\/whatever_thing?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T16:38:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-22T16:15:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T16:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Headbomb&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T16:15:00.000Z|Is_there_an_IsOnPage_magicword/function/whatever_thing?"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SD0001|2019-08-22T08:44:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-22T05:35:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a>:</span> this can be done using Lua. Create a mw.title object with the current page name, then the getContent() function on it would return the page content. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SD0001" title="User:SD0001">SD0001</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SD0001" title="User talk:SD0001">talk</a>) 08:44, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SD0001|2019-08-22T08:44:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-22T05:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T08:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SD0001&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SD0001|2019-08-22T08:44:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-22T05:35:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Cryptic|2019-08-22T08:47:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-22T05:35:00.000Z"></span>Put a &lt;noinclude> tag pair around it. —<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cryptic" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Cryptic">Cryptic</a> 08:47, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Cryptic|2019-08-22T08:47:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-22T05:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|SD0001|2019-08-22T09:00:00.000Z|Cryptic|2019-08-22T08:47:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T08:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Cryptic&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Cryptic|2019-08-22T08:47:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-22T05:35:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|SD0001|2019-08-22T09:00:00.000Z|Cryptic|2019-08-22T08:47:00.000Z"></span>ahhh, that's definitely the simpler option! <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SD0001" title="User:SD0001">SD0001</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SD0001" title="User talk:SD0001">talk</a>) 09:00, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|SD0001|2019-08-22T09:00:00.000Z|Cryptic|2019-08-22T08:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T13:47:00.000Z|SD0001|2019-08-22T09:00:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T09:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;SD0001&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|SD0001|2019-08-22T09:00:00.000Z|Cryptic|2019-08-22T08:47:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T13:47:00.000Z|SD0001|2019-08-22T09:00:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cryptic" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Cryptic">Cryptic</a>:</span> brilliant! Now to remember how to transclude noinclude tags... I have an example somewhere.  <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> 13:47, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T13:47:00.000Z|SD0001|2019-08-22T09:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T13:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Headbomb&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T13:47:00.000Z|SD0001|2019-08-22T09:00:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T16:15:00.000Z|Is_there_an_IsOnPage_magicword/function/whatever_thing?"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cryptic" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Cryptic">Cryptic</a> and <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SD0001" title="User:SD0001">SD0001</a>:</span>, just created {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:String_on_page" title="Template:String on page">String on page</a>}} and {{<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Count_on_page" title="Template:Count on page">Count on page</a>}}. Feel free to optimize if you know how.  <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> 16:15, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T16:15:00.000Z|Is_there_an_IsOnPage_magicword\/function\/whatever_thing?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T16:38:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-22T16:15:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T16:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Headbomb&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T16:15:00.000Z|Is_there_an_IsOnPage_magicword/function/whatever_thing?"></span>
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-<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T16:38:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-22T16:15:00.000Z"></span>Or implement these nesting noinclude tags correctly.  <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> 16:38, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T16:38:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-22T16:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T16:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Headbomb&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T16:38:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-22T16:15:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T19:09:00.000Z|Is_there_an_IsOnPage_magicword/function/whatever_thing?"></span>If anyone has an idea on how to circumvent <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:String_on_page#Limitations" title="Template:String on page">Template:String on page#Limitations</a>/<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Count_on_page#Limitations" title="Template:Count on page">Template:Count on page#Limitations</a>, please feel free to implement that!  <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> 19:09, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T19:09:00.000Z|Is_there_an_IsOnPage_magicword\/function\/whatever_thing?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-22T19:24:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-22T19:09:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T19:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Headbomb&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T19:09:00.000Z|Is_there_an_IsOnPage_magicword/function/whatever_thing?"></span>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T16:38:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-22T16:15:00.000Z"></span>Or implement these nesting noinclude tags correctly.  <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> 16:38, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T16:38:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-22T16:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T16:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Headbomb&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T16:38:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-22T16:15:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T19:09:00.000Z|Is_there_an_IsOnPage_magicword/function/whatever_thing?"></span>If anyone has an idea on how to circumvent <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:String_on_page#Limitations" title="Template:String on page">Template:String on page#Limitations</a>/<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Count_on_page#Limitations" title="Template:Count on page">Template:Count on page#Limitations</a>, please feel free to implement that!  <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> 19:09, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T19:09:00.000Z|Is_there_an_IsOnPage_magicword\/function\/whatever_thing?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-22T19:24:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-22T19:09:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T19:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Headbomb&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T19:09:00.000Z|Is_there_an_IsOnPage_magicword/function/whatever_thing?"></span>
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-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Izno|2019-08-22T19:24:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-22T19:09:00.000Z"></span>Not entirely sure, but I think <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> may have implemented something similar to the request for the auto-dates in CS1. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 19:24, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-22T19:24:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-22T19:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T19:58:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-22T19:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Trappist the monk|2019-08-22T21:10:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-22T19:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T21:34:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-22T19:24:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T19:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Izno&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Izno|2019-08-22T19:24:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-22T19:09:00.000Z"></span>
-<ul><li><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pppery" title="User:Pppery"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T19:58:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-22T19:24:00.000Z"></span>pppery</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pppery" title="User talk:Pppery">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/pppery" title="Special:Contributions/pppery">contribs</a>) might have ideas too.  <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> 19:58, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T19:58:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-22T19:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Pppery|2019-08-22T21:43:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-22T19:58:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T19:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Headbomb&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T19:58:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-22T19:24:00.000Z"></span>
-<ul><li><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Pppery|2019-08-22T21:43:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-22T19:58:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a>:</span> Searching rendered strings on the current page is logically impossible (<code>{{#ifeq:{{string on page|{{PAGENAME}}|foo}}|0|foo}}</code> would be a paradox). Searching non-transcluded parts of a rendered page might be possible  but isn't easy to implement. Searching the source code of page already exists as <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:String_count" title="Template:String count">Template:String count</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pppery" title="User:Pppery">* Pppery *</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pppery" title="User talk:Pppery"><sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub></a> 21:43, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pppery|2019-08-22T21:43:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-22T19:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T21:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pppery&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Pppery|2019-08-22T21:43:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-22T19:58:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Izno|2019-08-22T19:24:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-22T19:09:00.000Z"></span>Not entirely sure, but I think <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> may have implemented something similar to the request for the auto-dates in CS1. --<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 19:24, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Izno|2019-08-22T19:24:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-22T19:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T19:58:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-22T19:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Trappist the monk|2019-08-22T21:10:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-22T19:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T21:34:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-22T19:24:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T19:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Izno&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Izno|2019-08-22T19:24:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-22T19:09:00.000Z"></span>
+<ul><li><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pppery" title="User:Pppery"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T19:58:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-22T19:24:00.000Z"></span>pppery</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pppery" title="User talk:Pppery">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/pppery" title="Special:Contributions/pppery">contribs</a>) might have ideas too.  <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> 19:58, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T19:58:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-22T19:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Pppery|2019-08-22T21:43:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-22T19:58:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T19:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Headbomb&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T19:58:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-22T19:24:00.000Z"></span>
+<ul><li><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Pppery|2019-08-22T21:43:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-22T19:58:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a>:</span> Searching rendered strings on the current page is logically impossible (<code>{{#ifeq:{{string on page|{{PAGENAME}}|foo}}|0|foo}}</code> would be a paradox). Searching non-transcluded parts of a rendered page might be possible  but isn't easy to implement. Searching the source code of page already exists as <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:String_count" title="Template:String count">Template:String count</a>. <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pppery" title="User:Pppery">* Pppery *</a> <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pppery" title="User talk:Pppery"><sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub></a> 21:43, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pppery|2019-08-22T21:43:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-22T19:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T21:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pppery&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Pppery|2019-08-22T21:43:00.000Z|Headbomb|2019-08-22T19:58:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul>
 <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Trappist the monk|2019-08-22T21:10:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-22T19:24:00.000Z"></span>If the desire is to find or count strings on a rendered page, then the limitations make sense.  If the desire is to find or count strings in the source, then I think that a module is required.  Not tested but something like this:<div class="mw-highlight mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"><pre>local page_title_object;
 
 if frame.args[2] then
@@ -2877,18 +2877,18 @@ local count;
 _, count = mw.ustring.gsub (text, frame.args[1], '%1');						-- count number of occurrences of frame.args[1] in frame.args[2]
 return count;</pre></div></dd>
 <dd>not tested.  Probably requires that Lua pattern sequences in <code>frame.args[1]</code> (the string to be found or counted) are escaped.  Likely other stuff needs doing.</dd>
-<dd>—<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk" title="User talk:Trappist the monk">talk</a>) 21:10, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Trappist the monk|2019-08-22T21:10:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-22T19:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T21:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Trappist the monk&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Trappist the monk|2019-08-22T21:10:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-22T19:24:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T21:34:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-22T19:24:00.000Z"></span>Both rendered strings, or source strings would be useful. Source strings is what my immediate needs are though.  <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> 21:34, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T21:34:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-22T19:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T21:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Headbomb&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T21:34:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-22T19:24:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul>
+<dd>—<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Trappist_the_monk&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Trappist the monk (page does not exist)">Trappist the monk</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Trappist_the_monk" title="User talk:Trappist the monk">talk</a>) 21:10, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Trappist the monk|2019-08-22T21:10:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-22T19:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T21:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Trappist the monk&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Trappist the monk|2019-08-22T21:10:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-22T19:24:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T21:34:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-22T19:24:00.000Z"></span>Both rendered strings, or source strings would be useful. Source strings is what my immediate needs are though.  <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> 21:34, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T21:34:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-22T19:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T21:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Headbomb&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Headbomb|2019-08-22T21:34:00.000Z|Izno|2019-08-22T19:24:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Weird_redirect_error" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Weird_redirect_error|2019-08-23T01:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PC78|2019-08-23T01:27:00.000Z|Weird_redirect_error&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Weird_redirect_error|2019-08-23T01:27:00.000Z"></span>Weird redirect error<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Weird_redirect_error|2019-08-23T01:27:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PC78|2019-08-23T01:27:00.000Z|Weird_redirect_error"></span>See discussion at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2019_August_22#Fernando_Zor????" title="Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 August 22">Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 August 22#Fernando Zor????</a>; there's something weird going on with this redirect and it seems a bit beyond the scope of RfD. Any ideas? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PC78" title="User:PC78">PC78</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PC78" title="User talk:PC78">talk</a>) 01:27, 23 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PC78|2019-08-23T01:27:00.000Z|Weird_redirect_error&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-23T01:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PC78&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PC78|2019-08-23T01:27:00.000Z|Weird_redirect_error"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PC78|2019-08-23T01:27:00.000Z|Weird_redirect_error"></span>See discussion at <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2019_August_22#Fernando_Zor????" title="Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 August 22">Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 August 22#Fernando Zor????</a>; there's something weird going on with this redirect and it seems a bit beyond the scope of RfD. Any ideas? <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PC78" title="User:PC78">PC78</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:PC78" title="User talk:PC78">talk</a>) 01:27, 23 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PC78|2019-08-23T01:27:00.000Z|Weird_redirect_error&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-23T01:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PC78&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PC78|2019-08-23T01:27:00.000Z|Weird_redirect_error"></span>
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 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Difficulties_with_SUL_on_Ipad" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Difficulties_with_SUL_on_Ipad|2019-08-22T13:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ymblanter|2019-08-22T13:17:00.000Z|Difficulties_with_SUL_on_Ipad&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Difficulties_with_SUL_on_Ipad|2019-08-22T13:17:00.000Z"></span>Difficulties with SUL on Ipad<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Difficulties_with_SUL_on_Ipad|2019-08-22T13:17:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ymblanter|2019-08-22T13:17:00.000Z|Difficulties_with_SUL_on_Ipad"></span>Before I go to Phabricator, may be someone experienced a similar problem or at least known on which side the problem is. I usually work on laptop, and there I am logged in all the time (I choose the option to log in for 180 days). On my Ipad, I used to be logged on all the time as well. Sometimes it behaved strangely: For example, a year ago I found myself in a situation when I was logged in the English Wikipedia but was not logged in for example on Commons; then I logged in to Commons as well and all was fine. A week ago, my Ipad installed an automatic update which presumably included a new version of Safari. I found myself logged out. I tried to log in and found that I can log in just into one project, but if I then open a new window with any Wikimedia project, I am not logged in. I can login there as well, but then the next window is not logged in and so on. Moreover, if I am logged in say to the English Wikipedia I can work all right (well, making sure I never backtrack to the login screen). However, after two days, I find myself not logged in. Every time I log in I tick the "180 days" option. I would appreciate any comments. Thanks.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ymblanter" title="User:Ymblanter">Ymblanter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ymblanter" title="User talk:Ymblanter">talk</a>) 13:17, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ymblanter|2019-08-22T13:17:00.000Z|Difficulties_with_SUL_on_Ipad&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T13:29:00.000Z|Ymblanter|2019-08-22T13:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|TheDJ|2019-08-22T14:33:00.000Z|Ymblanter|2019-08-22T13:17:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T13:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ymblanter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ymblanter|2019-08-22T13:17:00.000Z|Difficulties_with_SUL_on_Ipad"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ymblanter|2019-08-22T13:17:00.000Z|Difficulties_with_SUL_on_Ipad"></span>Before I go to Phabricator, may be someone experienced a similar problem or at least known on which side the problem is. I usually work on laptop, and there I am logged in all the time (I choose the option to log in for 180 days). On my Ipad, I used to be logged on all the time as well. Sometimes it behaved strangely: For example, a year ago I found myself in a situation when I was logged in the English Wikipedia but was not logged in for example on Commons; then I logged in to Commons as well and all was fine. A week ago, my Ipad installed an automatic update which presumably included a new version of Safari. I found myself logged out. I tried to log in and found that I can log in just into one project, but if I then open a new window with any Wikimedia project, I am not logged in. I can login there as well, but then the next window is not logged in and so on. Moreover, if I am logged in say to the English Wikipedia I can work all right (well, making sure I never backtrack to the login screen). However, after two days, I find myself not logged in. Every time I log in I tick the "180 days" option. I would appreciate any comments. Thanks.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ymblanter" title="User:Ymblanter">Ymblanter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ymblanter" title="User talk:Ymblanter">talk</a>) 13:17, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ymblanter|2019-08-22T13:17:00.000Z|Difficulties_with_SUL_on_Ipad&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T13:29:00.000Z|Ymblanter|2019-08-22T13:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|TheDJ|2019-08-22T14:33:00.000Z|Ymblanter|2019-08-22T13:17:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T13:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ymblanter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ymblanter|2019-08-22T13:17:00.000Z|Difficulties_with_SUL_on_Ipad"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T13:29:00.000Z|Ymblanter|2019-08-22T13:17:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ymblanter" title="User:Ymblanter">Ymblanter</a>:</span> what version of your browser are you using? It sounds like you are having a cookie handling problem with your browser.  Try clearing all cookies from your browser and trying again. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 13:29, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T13:29:00.000Z|Ymblanter|2019-08-22T13:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T13:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T13:29:00.000Z|Ymblanter|2019-08-22T13:17:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ymblanter" title="User:Ymblanter"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|TheDJ|2019-08-22T14:33:00.000Z|Ymblanter|2019-08-22T13:17:00.000Z"></span>Ymblanter</a>, do you have private browsing mode on ? That setting is bottom left of your tab selector. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT203036">See here</a> —<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TheDJ" title="User:TheDJ">Th<span style="color: green">e</span>DJ</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheDJ" title="User talk:TheDJ">talk</a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/TheDJ" title="Special:Contributions/TheDJ">contribs</a>) 14:33, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|TheDJ|2019-08-22T14:33:00.000Z|Ymblanter|2019-08-22T13:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ymblanter|2019-08-22T14:44:00.000Z|TheDJ|2019-08-22T14:33:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T14:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;TheDJ&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|TheDJ|2019-08-22T14:33:00.000Z|Ymblanter|2019-08-22T13:17:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ymblanter|2019-08-22T14:44:00.000Z|TheDJ|2019-08-22T14:33:00.000Z"></span>Thanks to both of you. In my case, Safari is indeed black. I will get back home and try switching off the private browsing.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ymblanter" title="User:Ymblanter">Ymblanter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ymblanter" title="User talk:Ymblanter">talk</a>) 14:44, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ymblanter|2019-08-22T14:44:00.000Z|TheDJ|2019-08-22T14:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ymblanter|2019-08-23T05:35:00.000Z|Ymblanter|2019-08-22T14:44:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T14:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ymblanter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ymblanter|2019-08-22T14:44:00.000Z|TheDJ|2019-08-22T14:33:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ymblanter|2019-08-23T05:35:00.000Z|Ymblanter|2019-08-22T14:44:00.000Z"></span>It was indeed private browsing mode which caused issues, thanks again.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ymblanter" title="User:Ymblanter">Ymblanter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ymblanter" title="User talk:Ymblanter">talk</a>) 05:35, 23 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ymblanter|2019-08-23T05:35:00.000Z|Ymblanter|2019-08-22T14:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-23T05:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ymblanter&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ymblanter|2019-08-23T05:35:00.000Z|Ymblanter|2019-08-22T14:44:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T13:29:00.000Z|Ymblanter|2019-08-22T13:17:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ymblanter" title="User:Ymblanter">Ymblanter</a>:</span> what version of your browser are you using? It sounds like you are having a cookie handling problem with your browser.  Try clearing all cookies from your browser and trying again. — <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> 13:29, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T13:29:00.000Z|Ymblanter|2019-08-22T13:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T13:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Xaosflux&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Xaosflux|2019-08-22T13:29:00.000Z|Ymblanter|2019-08-22T13:17:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ymblanter" title="User:Ymblanter"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|TheDJ|2019-08-22T14:33:00.000Z|Ymblanter|2019-08-22T13:17:00.000Z"></span>Ymblanter</a>, do you have private browsing mode on ? That setting is bottom left of your tab selector. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT203036">See here</a> —<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TheDJ" title="User:TheDJ">Th<span style="color: green">e</span>DJ</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheDJ" title="User talk:TheDJ">talk</a> • <a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/TheDJ" title="Special:Contributions/TheDJ">contribs</a>) 14:33, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|TheDJ|2019-08-22T14:33:00.000Z|Ymblanter|2019-08-22T13:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ymblanter|2019-08-22T14:44:00.000Z|TheDJ|2019-08-22T14:33:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T14:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;TheDJ&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|TheDJ|2019-08-22T14:33:00.000Z|Ymblanter|2019-08-22T13:17:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ymblanter|2019-08-22T14:44:00.000Z|TheDJ|2019-08-22T14:33:00.000Z"></span>Thanks to both of you. In my case, Safari is indeed black. I will get back home and try switching off the private browsing.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ymblanter" title="User:Ymblanter">Ymblanter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ymblanter" title="User talk:Ymblanter">talk</a>) 14:44, 22 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ymblanter|2019-08-22T14:44:00.000Z|TheDJ|2019-08-22T14:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ymblanter|2019-08-23T05:35:00.000Z|Ymblanter|2019-08-22T14:44:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-22T14:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ymblanter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ymblanter|2019-08-22T14:44:00.000Z|TheDJ|2019-08-22T14:33:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ymblanter|2019-08-23T05:35:00.000Z|Ymblanter|2019-08-22T14:44:00.000Z"></span>It was indeed private browsing mode which caused issues, thanks again.--<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ymblanter" title="User:Ymblanter">Ymblanter</a> (<a href="//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ymblanter" title="User talk:Ymblanter">talk</a>) 05:35, 23 August 2019 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ymblanter|2019-08-23T05:35:00.000Z|Ymblanter|2019-08-22T14:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2019-08-23T05:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ymblanter&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ymblanter|2019-08-23T05:35:00.000Z|Ymblanter|2019-08-22T14:44:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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-<p><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex"><font color="green"><i>talk</i></font></a>) 19:24, 24 February 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2021-02-24T19:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-02-24T19:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2021-02-24T19:24:00.000Z"></span>
+<p><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex"><font color="green"><i>talk</i></font></a>) 19:24, 24 February 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2021-02-24T19:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-02-24T19:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2021-02-24T19:24:00.000Z"></span>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2021-02-24T19:24:00.000Z|Heading_with_a_&quot;_quote"></span>Test. <a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex"><font color="green"><i>talk</i></font></a>) 19:24, 24 February 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2021-02-24T19:24:00.000Z|Heading_with_a_\&quot;_quote&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-02-24T19:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2021-02-24T19:24:00.000Z|Heading_with_a_&quot;_quote"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2021-02-24T19:24:00.000Z|Heading_with_a_&quot;_quote"></span>Test. <a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex"><font color="green"><i>talk</i></font></a>) 19:24, 24 February 2021 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2021-02-24T19:24:00.000Z|Heading_with_a_\&quot;_quote&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2021-02-24T19:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2021-02-24T19:24:00.000Z|Heading_with_a_&quot;_quote"></span>
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 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542|2017-10-09T12:39:00.000Z|Mort_de_Pierre_Berge"></span>Bonjour, j'ai mis a jour l'introduction de l'article pour tenir compte de la mort de Pierre Berge. Ma modification a ete annulee parceque 'Certes, mais pas ses actions'. Voici la passage modifife:
 </p><p><i>Le journal est édité par le groupe Le Monde, détenu depuis 2010 à 64 % par la société Le Monde libre, elle-même contrôlée par les hommes d'affaires Xavier Niel, Pierre Bergé et Matthieu Pigasse.</i>
 </p><p>C'est un fait que Pierre Berge etant mort, il n'a aucun controle sur Le Monde libre et sur rien du tout. Ses actions passees peuvent inclurent d'avoir eu un controle sur cette societe, de l'avoir creee ou d'y avoir juste participe. Mais dire qu'il a un controle dessus et conjuguer ca au present est factuellement faux et doit etre enleve ou modifie pour etre adapte a la realite.
-</p><p>Cordialement <small class="plainlinks">— <i>Le message qui précède, <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aide:Signature/r%C3%A9sum%C3%A9" title="Aide:Signature/résumé">non signé</a>, a été déposé par l'<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Utilisateur_sous_IP" title="Wikipédia:Utilisateur sous IP">IP</a></i> <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sp%C3%A9cial:Contributions/2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542" title="Spécial:Contributions/2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542">2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542" title="Discussion utilisateur:2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542">discuter</a>), le <a class="external text" href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussion:Le_Monde&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=141369221">9 octobre 2017 à 14:39 (CEST)</a></small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542|2017-10-09T12:39:00.000Z|Mort_de_Pierre_Berge&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Chicraz|2017-10-09T15:16:00.000Z|2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542|2017-10-09T12:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542|2017-10-09T19:11:00.000Z|2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542|2017-10-09T12:39:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2017-10-09T12:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542|2017-10-09T12:39:00.000Z|Mort_de_Pierre_Berge"></span>
+</p><p>Cordialement <small class="plainlinks">— <i>Le message qui précède, <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aide:Signature/r%C3%A9sum%C3%A9" title="Aide:Signature/résumé">non signé</a>, a été déposé par l'<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Utilisateur_sous_IP" title="Wikipédia:Utilisateur sous IP">IP</a></i> <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sp%C3%A9cial:Contributions/2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542" title="Spécial:Contributions/2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542">2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542" title="Discussion utilisateur:2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542">discuter</a>), le <a class="external text" href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussion:Le_Monde&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=141369221">9 octobre 2017 à 14:39 (CEST)</a></small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542|2017-10-09T12:39:00.000Z|Mort_de_Pierre_Berge&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Chicraz|2017-10-09T15:16:00.000Z|2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542|2017-10-09T12:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542|2017-10-09T19:11:00.000Z|2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542|2017-10-09T12:39:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2017-10-09T12:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542|2017-10-09T12:39:00.000Z|Mort_de_Pierre_Berge"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Chicraz|2017-10-09T15:16:00.000Z|2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542|2017-10-09T12:39:00.000Z"></span>Bonjour, j'ai annulé votre modification car si Pierre Bergé est bien mort, les actions qu'il détenait n'ont pas disparu pour autant. Car je parlais évidemment de ses <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_(finance)" title="Action (finance)">actions</a> au sens de ses titres de propriété. Il ne convient pas de supprimer Bergé des actionnaires, car cela laisserait croire que Niel et Pigasse sont seuls à détenir le journal via <i>Le Monde libre</i>, ce qui n'est pas le cas. J'ai remplacé par "les héritiers de Pierre Bergé". A suivre en fonction de ce que ceux-ci feront des actions du journal. --<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Chicraz" title="Utilisateur:Chicraz">Chicraz</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Chicraz" title="Discussion utilisateur:Chicraz">discuter</a>) 9 octobre 2017 à 17:16 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Chicraz|2017-10-09T15:16:00.000Z|2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542|2017-10-09T12:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2017-10-09T15:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Chicraz&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Chicraz|2017-10-09T15:16:00.000Z|2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542|2017-10-09T12:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542|2017-10-09T19:11:00.000Z|2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542|2017-10-09T12:39:00.000Z"></span>Merci d'avoir tenu compte de ma remarque. Il semble que les parts de Le Monde Libre Holding anciennement detenues Pierre Berge ne soient pas detenues par les heritiers de Pierre Berge (son mari Madison Cox ?), mais par Niel et Pigasse: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.huffingtonpost.fr/2017/09/08/les-parts-de-pierre-berge-dans-le-monde-seront-reprises-par-le-duo-xavier-niel-et-matthieu-pigasse_a_23201838/">http://www.huffingtonpost.fr/2017/09/08/les-parts-de-pierre-berge-dans-le-monde-seront-reprises-par-le-duo-xavier-niel-et-matthieu-pigasse_a_23201838/</a> <small class="plainlinks">— <i>Le message qui précède, <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aide:Signature/r%C3%A9sum%C3%A9" title="Aide:Signature/résumé">non signé</a>, a été déposé par l'<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Utilisateur_sous_IP" title="Wikipédia:Utilisateur sous IP">IP</a></i> <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sp%C3%A9cial:Contributions/2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542" title="Spécial:Contributions/2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542">2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542" title="Discussion utilisateur:2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542">discuter</a>), le <a class="external text" href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussion:Le_Monde&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=141380989">9 octobre 2017 à 21:11 (CEST)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c|2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542|2017-10-09T19:11:00.000Z|2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542|2017-10-09T12:39:00.000Z"></span></small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542|2017-10-09T19:11:00.000Z|2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542|2017-10-09T12:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Chicraz|2017-10-10T08:04:00.000Z|2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542|2017-10-09T19:11:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2017-10-09T19:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd></dl>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Chicraz|2017-10-10T08:04:00.000Z|2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542|2017-10-09T19:11:00.000Z"></span>L'article a été mis à jour de cette information. Bonne journée --<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Chicraz" title="Utilisateur:Chicraz">Chicraz</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Chicraz" title="Discussion utilisateur:Chicraz">discuter</a>) 10 octobre 2017 à 10:04 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Chicraz|2017-10-10T08:04:00.000Z|2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542|2017-10-09T19:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2017-10-10T08:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Chicraz&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Chicraz|2017-10-10T08:04:00.000Z|2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542|2017-10-09T19:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Chicraz|2017-10-09T15:16:00.000Z|2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542|2017-10-09T12:39:00.000Z"></span>Bonjour, j'ai annulé votre modification car si Pierre Bergé est bien mort, les actions qu'il détenait n'ont pas disparu pour autant. Car je parlais évidemment de ses <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_(finance)" title="Action (finance)">actions</a> au sens de ses titres de propriété. Il ne convient pas de supprimer Bergé des actionnaires, car cela laisserait croire que Niel et Pigasse sont seuls à détenir le journal via <i>Le Monde libre</i>, ce qui n'est pas le cas. J'ai remplacé par "les héritiers de Pierre Bergé". A suivre en fonction de ce que ceux-ci feront des actions du journal. --<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Chicraz" title="Utilisateur:Chicraz">Chicraz</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Chicraz" title="Discussion utilisateur:Chicraz">discuter</a>) 9 octobre 2017 à 17:16 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Chicraz|2017-10-09T15:16:00.000Z|2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542|2017-10-09T12:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2017-10-09T15:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Chicraz&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Chicraz|2017-10-09T15:16:00.000Z|2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542|2017-10-09T12:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542|2017-10-09T19:11:00.000Z|2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542|2017-10-09T12:39:00.000Z"></span>Merci d'avoir tenu compte de ma remarque. Il semble que les parts de Le Monde Libre Holding anciennement detenues Pierre Berge ne soient pas detenues par les heritiers de Pierre Berge (son mari Madison Cox ?), mais par Niel et Pigasse: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.huffingtonpost.fr/2017/09/08/les-parts-de-pierre-berge-dans-le-monde-seront-reprises-par-le-duo-xavier-niel-et-matthieu-pigasse_a_23201838/">http://www.huffingtonpost.fr/2017/09/08/les-parts-de-pierre-berge-dans-le-monde-seront-reprises-par-le-duo-xavier-niel-et-matthieu-pigasse_a_23201838/</a> <small class="plainlinks">— <i>Le message qui précède, <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aide:Signature/r%C3%A9sum%C3%A9" title="Aide:Signature/résumé">non signé</a>, a été déposé par l'<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Utilisateur_sous_IP" title="Wikipédia:Utilisateur sous IP">IP</a></i> <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sp%C3%A9cial:Contributions/2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542" title="Spécial:Contributions/2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542">2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542" title="Discussion utilisateur:2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542">discuter</a>), le <a class="external text" href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussion:Le_Monde&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=141380989">9 octobre 2017 à 21:11 (CEST)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c|2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542|2017-10-09T19:11:00.000Z|2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542|2017-10-09T12:39:00.000Z"></span></small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542|2017-10-09T19:11:00.000Z|2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542|2017-10-09T12:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Chicraz|2017-10-10T08:04:00.000Z|2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542|2017-10-09T19:11:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2017-10-09T19:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Chicraz|2017-10-10T08:04:00.000Z|2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542|2017-10-09T19:11:00.000Z"></span>L'article a été mis à jour de cette information. Bonne journée --<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Chicraz" title="Utilisateur:Chicraz">Chicraz</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Chicraz" title="Discussion utilisateur:Chicraz">discuter</a>) 10 octobre 2017 à 10:04 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Chicraz|2017-10-10T08:04:00.000Z|2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542|2017-10-09T19:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2017-10-10T08:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Chicraz&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Chicraz|2017-10-10T08:04:00.000Z|2A02:8109:8900:5C14:C953:3DDA:E3FB:3542|2017-10-09T19:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id=".22Position_du_Monde_dans_l.27espace_politique_fran.C3.A7ais.22"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="&quot;Position_du_Monde_dans_l'espace_politique_français&quot;" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|\&quot;Position_du_Monde_dans_l'espace_politique_fran\u00e7ais\&quot;|2014-10-06T10:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|20 century boy|2014-10-06T10:29:00.000Z|\&quot;Position_du_Monde_dans_l'espace_politique_fran\u00e7ais\&quot;&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|&quot;Position_du_Monde_dans_l'espace_politique_français&quot;|2014-10-06T10:29:00.000Z"></span>"Position du Monde dans l'espace politique français"<span data-mw-comment-end="h|&quot;Position_du_Monde_dans_l'espace_politique_français&quot;|2014-10-06T10:29:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|20 century boy|2014-10-06T10:29:00.000Z|&quot;Position_du_Monde_dans_l'espace_politique_français&quot;"></span>Cette partie est vraiment particulière… Autant la phase "historico-contextuelle" est défendable, autant la partie sur Sarkozy, les positions hostiles etc… ne l'est pas. Il y a débat. Je pense que l'on devrait, par soucis de neutralité ne pas en parler. Je la supprime donc et laisse une archive ici au cas où quelqu'un voudrait la rajouter avec un argumentaire solide.
 </p><p>"En 2007, à l'approche des élections présidentielles, dans un éditorial daté du 3 mai, le directeur de la publication Jean-Marie Colombani lance un appel à voter pour la candidate socialiste Ségolène Royal. La principale raison invoquée est la situation désastreuse dans laquelle le Parti socialiste se trouverait en cas d'échec[réf. nécessaire]. La « conception revancharde de l'histoire » du candidat UMP, Nicolas Sarkozy, vainqueur de l'élection, est également dénoncée. Depuis, le journal adopta fréquemment des positions hostiles à la politique du président Sarkozy et de son gouvernement[réf. nécessaire]."
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-<dl><dd>Effectivement, je ne vois pas ce qui peut bien classer le monde comme journal de centre gauche... Hubert Beuve-Méry était franchement à droite ( De Gaulle n'était pas de centre-droit, hein...) il aurait créer un journal qui suivait une autre tendance?  Je suis de loin le journal mais je ne vois aucun élements factuels qui le rapprocherait du centre gauche...  ou alors c'est la société qui a dévié tellement à droite que le monde, journal de droite est devenu de centre gauche? <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:20_century_boy" title="Utilisateur:20 century boy">20 century boy</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:20_century_boy" title="Discussion utilisateur:20 century boy">discuter</a>) 6 octobre 2014 à 12:29 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|20 century boy|2014-10-06T10:29:00.000Z|\&quot;Position_du_Monde_dans_l'espace_politique_fran\u00e7ais\&quot;&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2014-10-06T10:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;20 century boy&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|20 century boy|2014-10-06T10:29:00.000Z|&quot;Position_du_Monde_dans_l'espace_politique_français&quot;"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd>Effectivement, je ne vois pas ce qui peut bien classer le monde comme journal de centre gauche... Hubert Beuve-Méry était franchement à droite ( De Gaulle n'était pas de centre-droit, hein...) il aurait créer un journal qui suivait une autre tendance?  Je suis de loin le journal mais je ne vois aucun élements factuels qui le rapprocherait du centre gauche...  ou alors c'est la société qui a dévié tellement à droite que le monde, journal de droite est devenu de centre gauche? <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:20_century_boy" title="Utilisateur:20 century boy">20 century boy</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:20_century_boy" title="Discussion utilisateur:20 century boy">discuter</a>) 6 octobre 2014 à 12:29 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|20 century boy|2014-10-06T10:29:00.000Z|\&quot;Position_du_Monde_dans_l'espace_politique_fran\u00e7ais\&quot;&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2014-10-06T10:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;20 century boy&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|20 century boy|2014-10-06T10:29:00.000Z|&quot;Position_du_Monde_dans_l'espace_politique_français&quot;"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id="Description_de_l.27organisation"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Description_de_l'organisation" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Description_de_l'organisation&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Description_de_l'organisation"></span>Description de l'organisation<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Description_de_l'organisation"></span></span></h2>
 <p>La description rubrique par rubrique date un peu (2 ans je pense), elle est à revoir
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 3) Il n'est pas tenable de n'avoir pas dans Wikipedia une entrée consacrée à l'EUMC, même si les travaux officiels de l'EUMC ne sont pas encore traduits en français sur le site officiel dépendant des Communautés européennes (Union européenne).<br/>
 <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Frdm" title="Utilisateur:Frdm">Frdm</a> 8 août 2005 à 21:37-22:40 (CEST)
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-<dl><dd>Le problème est simple : existe-t-il des sources extérieures à l'EUMC permettant d'écrire un article appuyé sur des sources fiables et vérifiables ? -- <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Bokken" title="Utilisateur:Bokken">Bokken</a> | <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Bokken" title="Discussion utilisateur:Bokken">木刀</a> 24 avril 2009 à 09:27 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bokken|2009-04-24T07:27:00.000Z|Affaire_condamnation_du_Monde_pour_\u00abdiffamation_raciale\u00bb_:_Suggestion_de_nouve&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2009-04-24T07:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bokken&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bokken|2009-04-24T07:27:00.000Z|Affaire_condamnation_du_Monde_pour_«diffamation_raciale»_:_Suggestion_de_nouve"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd>Le problème est simple : existe-t-il des sources extérieures à l'EUMC permettant d'écrire un article appuyé sur des sources fiables et vérifiables ? -- <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Bokken" title="Utilisateur:Bokken">Bokken</a> | <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Bokken" title="Discussion utilisateur:Bokken">木刀</a> 24 avril 2009 à 09:27 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bokken|2009-04-24T07:27:00.000Z|Affaire_condamnation_du_Monde_pour_\u00abdiffamation_raciale\u00bb_:_Suggestion_de_nouve&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2009-04-24T07:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bokken&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bokken|2009-04-24T07:27:00.000Z|Affaire_condamnation_du_Monde_pour_«diffamation_raciale»_:_Suggestion_de_nouve"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Lorsque_je_fait_un_ajout..." data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Lorsque_je_fait_un_ajout...&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Lorsque_je_fait_un_ajout..."></span>Lorsque je fait un ajout...<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Lorsque_je_fait_un_ajout..."></span></span></h2>
 <p>...il est supprimé sans discussion c'est à l'image du monde mais pas de wikipedia c'est dommage. 
 </p><p>>  Vous avez une image tordue et déformé du Monde, cher monsieur. Vous êtes aveuglé par vos certitudes... apprises, dictées, ou autre (rayer la mention inutile ? Injurier le dernier journal qui ne soit pas sous contrôle...
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 <p>L'arrêt de condamnation d'Edgar Morin et Société éditrice du quotidien Le Monde, rendu le 26 mai 2005 par la Cour d'appel de Versailles, pour diffamation raciale en matière d'antisémitisme, est disponible aux adresses: 
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Apokrif|2006-08-04T17:49:00.000Z|Date_des_numéros"></span>Si un article du <i>Monde</i> en ligne dit par exemple: Le Monde, 29 octobre 2002, et en bas: article paru dans l'édition du 30 octobre 2002, laquelle des deux dates faut-il citer comme deate de l'article ? <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Apokrif" title="Utilisateur:Apokrif">Apokrif</a> 4 août 2006 à 19:49 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Apokrif|2006-08-04T17:49:00.000Z|Date_des_num\u00e9ros&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Mhon|2006-08-07T13:53:00.000Z|Apokrif|2006-08-04T17:49:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2006-08-04T17:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Apokrif&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Apokrif|2006-08-04T17:49:00.000Z|Date_des_numéros"></span>Si un article du <i>Monde</i> en ligne dit par exemple: Le Monde, 29 octobre 2002, et en bas: article paru dans l'édition du 30 octobre 2002, laquelle des deux dates faut-il citer comme deate de l'article ? <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Apokrif" title="Utilisateur:Apokrif">Apokrif</a> 4 août 2006 à 19:49 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Apokrif|2006-08-04T17:49:00.000Z|Date_des_num\u00e9ros&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Mhon|2006-08-07T13:53:00.000Z|Apokrif|2006-08-04T17:49:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2006-08-04T17:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Apokrif&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Mhon|2006-08-07T13:53:00.000Z|Apokrif|2006-08-04T17:49:00.000Z"></span>La seconde. D'une manière générale, toutes les éditions (papier ou électronique) du Monde paraissent la veille de leur date d'édition (sic). <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Mhon" title="Utilisateur:Mhon">Mhon</a> | <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Mhon" title="Discussion utilisateur:Mhon"><small>(discuter)</small></a> 7 août 2006 à 15:53 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mhon|2006-08-07T13:53:00.000Z|Apokrif|2006-08-04T17:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2006-08-07T13:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mhon&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Mhon|2006-08-07T13:53:00.000Z|Apokrif|2006-08-04T17:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Mhon|2006-08-07T13:53:00.000Z|Apokrif|2006-08-04T17:49:00.000Z"></span>La seconde. D'une manière générale, toutes les éditions (papier ou électronique) du Monde paraissent la veille de leur date d'édition (sic). <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Mhon" title="Utilisateur:Mhon">Mhon</a> | <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Mhon" title="Discussion utilisateur:Mhon"><small>(discuter)</small></a> 7 août 2006 à 15:53 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mhon|2006-08-07T13:53:00.000Z|Apokrif|2006-08-04T17:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2006-08-07T13:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mhon&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Mhon|2006-08-07T13:53:00.000Z|Apokrif|2006-08-04T17:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Mhon|2006-08-14T10:03:00.000Z|Centre_gauche_?"></span>Bonjour. Suite à une très récente contribution « vandale » d'une IP repositionnant ce journal de <i>centre gauche</i> à <i>droite</i> sur l'échiquier politique, j'ai cherché à savoir d'où venait ce positionnement initial. C'est <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Spedona" title="Utilisateur:Spedona">Spedona</a> qui avait <a class="external text" href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Le_Monde&amp;diff=next&amp;oldid=1073742">introduit cela</a> il y a maintenant presque 2 ans. Sans source. Je sais que c'est une idée assez répandue, mais il y a-t-il une revendication quelconque du journal sur ce point ? Ou alors une source digne de confiance ? <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Mhon" title="Utilisateur:Mhon">Mhon</a> | <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Mhon" title="Discussion utilisateur:Mhon"><small>(discuter)</small></a> 14 août 2006 à 12:03 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mhon|2006-08-14T10:03:00.000Z|Centre_gauche_?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Digging.holes|2006-08-15T00:28:00.000Z|Mhon|2006-08-14T10:03:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2006-08-14T10:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mhon&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Mhon|2006-08-14T10:03:00.000Z|Centre_gauche_?"></span>Bonjour. Suite à une très récente contribution « vandale » d'une IP repositionnant ce journal de <i>centre gauche</i> à <i>droite</i> sur l'échiquier politique, j'ai cherché à savoir d'où venait ce positionnement initial. C'est <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Spedona" title="Utilisateur:Spedona">Spedona</a> qui avait <a class="external text" href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Le_Monde&amp;diff=next&amp;oldid=1073742">introduit cela</a> il y a maintenant presque 2 ans. Sans source. Je sais que c'est une idée assez répandue, mais il y a-t-il une revendication quelconque du journal sur ce point ? Ou alors une source digne de confiance ? <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Mhon" title="Utilisateur:Mhon">Mhon</a> | <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Mhon" title="Discussion utilisateur:Mhon"><small>(discuter)</small></a> 14 août 2006 à 12:03 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mhon|2006-08-14T10:03:00.000Z|Centre_gauche_?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Digging.holes|2006-08-15T00:28:00.000Z|Mhon|2006-08-14T10:03:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2006-08-14T10:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mhon&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Digging.holes|2006-08-15T00:28:00.000Z|Mhon|2006-08-14T10:03:00.000Z"></span>Personnellement, je suis toujours mal à l'aise avec la catégorisation gauche/droite sur Wikipédia. Il s'agit de quelque chose d'incroyablement subjectif dont la signification peut varier énormément selon la personne, le pays, le contexte, etc. J'ai révoqué la modification de l'IP parce que non justifiée, mais je préférerais voir des exemples de positions éditioriales prises par le journal plutôt qu'une simple catégorisation gauche/droite (qui idéalement devrait disparaître complètement) ce qui laisserait le lecteur tirer ses propres conclusions ; il me semble que ce serait également souhaitable dans toute l'encyclopédie, même si ça exige un travail de recherche plus grand. Pour ce qui est du <i>Monde</i>, je lis très rarement ce journal (je n'habite pas en Europe, après tout), alors je devrai laisser ce travail à d'autres qui connaissent davantage le sujet. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Digging.holes" title="Utilisateur:Digging.holes">DH</a> | <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Digging.holes" title="Discussion utilisateur:Digging.holes">2¢</a> | 15 août 2006 à 02:28 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Digging.holes|2006-08-15T00:28:00.000Z|Mhon|2006-08-14T10:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Mhon|2006-08-15T11:24:00.000Z|Digging.holes|2006-08-15T00:28:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2006-08-15T00:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Digging.holes&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Digging.holes|2006-08-15T00:28:00.000Z|Mhon|2006-08-14T10:03:00.000Z"></span>Personnellement, je suis toujours mal à l'aise avec la catégorisation gauche/droite sur Wikipédia. Il s'agit de quelque chose d'incroyablement subjectif dont la signification peut varier énormément selon la personne, le pays, le contexte, etc. J'ai révoqué la modification de l'IP parce que non justifiée, mais je préférerais voir des exemples de positions éditioriales prises par le journal plutôt qu'une simple catégorisation gauche/droite (qui idéalement devrait disparaître complètement) ce qui laisserait le lecteur tirer ses propres conclusions ; il me semble que ce serait également souhaitable dans toute l'encyclopédie, même si ça exige un travail de recherche plus grand. Pour ce qui est du <i>Monde</i>, je lis très rarement ce journal (je n'habite pas en Europe, après tout), alors je devrai laisser ce travail à d'autres qui connaissent davantage le sujet. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Digging.holes" title="Utilisateur:Digging.holes">DH</a> | <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Digging.holes" title="Discussion utilisateur:Digging.holes">2¢</a> | 15 août 2006 à 02:28 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Digging.holes|2006-08-15T00:28:00.000Z|Mhon|2006-08-14T10:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Mhon|2006-08-15T11:24:00.000Z|Digging.holes|2006-08-15T00:28:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2006-08-15T00:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Digging.holes&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Mhon|2006-08-15T11:24:00.000Z|Digging.holes|2006-08-15T00:28:00.000Z"></span>Ok, derière ma question, je pensais un peu la même chose. À y réfléchir un peu plus, c'est clairement non neutre comme affirmation. Je vire. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Mhon" title="Utilisateur:Mhon">Mhon</a> | <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Mhon" title="Discussion utilisateur:Mhon"><small>(discuter)</small></a> 15 août 2006 à 13:24 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mhon|2006-08-15T11:24:00.000Z|Digging.holes|2006-08-15T00:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Spedona|2006-08-25T21:19:00.000Z|Mhon|2006-08-15T11:24:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2006-08-15T11:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mhon&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Spedona|2006-08-25T21:19:00.000Z|Mhon|2006-08-15T11:24:00.000Z"></span>Voila donc <i>Le Monde</i> flottant dans l'espace politique français sans qu'on sache vers où il penche, il y a pourtant des indices dans l'article même. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Spedona" title="Utilisateur:Spedona">Spedona</a> 25 août 2006 à 23:19 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Spedona|2006-08-25T21:19:00.000Z|Mhon|2006-08-15T11:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Digging.holes|2006-08-25T22:39:00.000Z|Spedona|2006-08-25T21:19:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2006-08-25T21:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Spedona&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Digging.holes|2006-08-25T22:39:00.000Z|Spedona|2006-08-25T21:19:00.000Z"></span>Le problème c'est que les termes gauche-centre-droite sont relatifs par définition et sont régulièrement abusés dans les discours politiques, à tel point qu'ils n'ont aucune signification objective (ce qui n'est pas encore le cas, par exemple, des qualificatifs plus précis comme conservateur, libéral, socialiste, progressiste, altermondialiste, etc.) Vaut mieux donner les maximum d'informations concrètes et laisser le lecteur en tirer sa conclusion. Après tout, pour quelqu'un de gauche, un centriste est à droite, tandis que pour quelqu'un de droite, le même centriste est à gauche... <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Digging.holes" title="Utilisateur:Digging.holes">DH</a> ▪ <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Digging.holes" title="Discussion utilisateur:Digging.holes">2¢</a> ▪ 26 août 2006 à 00:39 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Digging.holes|2006-08-25T22:39:00.000Z|Spedona|2006-08-25T21:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Spedona|2006-08-26T07:12:00.000Z|Digging.holes|2006-08-25T22:39:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2006-08-25T22:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Digging.holes&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Spedona|2006-08-26T07:12:00.000Z|Digging.holes|2006-08-25T22:39:00.000Z"></span>Si c'est si relatif, comment fait-on pour qualifier <i>Le Figaro</i> de droite et centre-droite ? <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Spedona" title="Utilisateur:Spedona">Spedona</a> 26 août 2006 à 09:12 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Spedona|2006-08-26T07:12:00.000Z|Digging.holes|2006-08-25T22:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Digging.holes|2006-08-26T17:28:00.000Z|Spedona|2006-08-26T07:12:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2006-08-26T07:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Spedona&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Digging.holes|2006-08-26T17:28:00.000Z|Spedona|2006-08-26T07:12:00.000Z"></span>Idéalement, il faudrait modifier l'article sur <i><a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Figaro" title="Le Figaro">Le Figaro</a></i> également. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Digging.holes" title="Utilisateur:Digging.holes">DH</a> ▪ <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Digging.holes" title="Discussion utilisateur:Digging.holes">2¢</a> ▪ 26 août 2006 à 19:28 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Digging.holes|2006-08-26T17:28:00.000Z|Spedona|2006-08-26T07:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2006-08-26T17:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Digging.holes&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Digging.holes|2006-08-26T17:28:00.000Z|Spedona|2006-08-26T07:12:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Spedona|2006-08-26T07:12:00.000Z|Digging.holes|2006-08-25T22:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Digging.holes|2006-08-25T22:39:00.000Z|Spedona|2006-08-25T21:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Spedona|2006-08-25T21:19:00.000Z|Mhon|2006-08-15T11:24:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Mhon|2006-08-15T11:24:00.000Z|Digging.holes|2006-08-15T00:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Digging.holes|2006-08-15T00:28:00.000Z|Mhon|2006-08-14T10:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Mhon|2006-08-15T11:24:00.000Z|Digging.holes|2006-08-15T00:28:00.000Z"></span>Ok, derière ma question, je pensais un peu la même chose. À y réfléchir un peu plus, c'est clairement non neutre comme affirmation. Je vire. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Mhon" title="Utilisateur:Mhon">Mhon</a> | <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Mhon" title="Discussion utilisateur:Mhon"><small>(discuter)</small></a> 15 août 2006 à 13:24 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mhon|2006-08-15T11:24:00.000Z|Digging.holes|2006-08-15T00:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Spedona|2006-08-25T21:19:00.000Z|Mhon|2006-08-15T11:24:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2006-08-15T11:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mhon&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Spedona|2006-08-25T21:19:00.000Z|Mhon|2006-08-15T11:24:00.000Z"></span>Voila donc <i>Le Monde</i> flottant dans l'espace politique français sans qu'on sache vers où il penche, il y a pourtant des indices dans l'article même. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Spedona" title="Utilisateur:Spedona">Spedona</a> 25 août 2006 à 23:19 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Spedona|2006-08-25T21:19:00.000Z|Mhon|2006-08-15T11:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Digging.holes|2006-08-25T22:39:00.000Z|Spedona|2006-08-25T21:19:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2006-08-25T21:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Spedona&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Digging.holes|2006-08-25T22:39:00.000Z|Spedona|2006-08-25T21:19:00.000Z"></span>Le problème c'est que les termes gauche-centre-droite sont relatifs par définition et sont régulièrement abusés dans les discours politiques, à tel point qu'ils n'ont aucune signification objective (ce qui n'est pas encore le cas, par exemple, des qualificatifs plus précis comme conservateur, libéral, socialiste, progressiste, altermondialiste, etc.) Vaut mieux donner les maximum d'informations concrètes et laisser le lecteur en tirer sa conclusion. Après tout, pour quelqu'un de gauche, un centriste est à droite, tandis que pour quelqu'un de droite, le même centriste est à gauche... <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Digging.holes" title="Utilisateur:Digging.holes">DH</a> ▪ <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Digging.holes" title="Discussion utilisateur:Digging.holes">2¢</a> ▪ 26 août 2006 à 00:39 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Digging.holes|2006-08-25T22:39:00.000Z|Spedona|2006-08-25T21:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Spedona|2006-08-26T07:12:00.000Z|Digging.holes|2006-08-25T22:39:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2006-08-25T22:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Digging.holes&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Spedona|2006-08-26T07:12:00.000Z|Digging.holes|2006-08-25T22:39:00.000Z"></span>Si c'est si relatif, comment fait-on pour qualifier <i>Le Figaro</i> de droite et centre-droite ? <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Spedona" title="Utilisateur:Spedona">Spedona</a> 26 août 2006 à 09:12 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Spedona|2006-08-26T07:12:00.000Z|Digging.holes|2006-08-25T22:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Digging.holes|2006-08-26T17:28:00.000Z|Spedona|2006-08-26T07:12:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2006-08-26T07:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Spedona&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Digging.holes|2006-08-26T17:28:00.000Z|Spedona|2006-08-26T07:12:00.000Z"></span>Idéalement, il faudrait modifier l'article sur <i><a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Figaro" title="Le Figaro">Le Figaro</a></i> également. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Digging.holes" title="Utilisateur:Digging.holes">DH</a> ▪ <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Digging.holes" title="Discussion utilisateur:Digging.holes">2¢</a> ▪ 26 août 2006 à 19:28 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Digging.holes|2006-08-26T17:28:00.000Z|Spedona|2006-08-26T07:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2006-08-26T17:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Digging.holes&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Digging.holes|2006-08-26T17:28:00.000Z|Spedona|2006-08-26T07:12:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Spedona|2006-08-26T07:12:00.000Z|Digging.holes|2006-08-25T22:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Digging.holes|2006-08-25T22:39:00.000Z|Spedona|2006-08-25T21:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Spedona|2006-08-25T21:19:00.000Z|Mhon|2006-08-15T11:24:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Mhon|2006-08-15T11:24:00.000Z|Digging.holes|2006-08-15T00:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Digging.holes|2006-08-15T00:28:00.000Z|Mhon|2006-08-14T10:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <p>Sinon, il est aussi possible d'indiquer que Beuve-méry a soutenu de Gaulle en 1958, contre une partie de sa rédaction (cf. Jacques Thibau et P. Eveno) ; qu'il (notamment Jacques Fauvet et Jacques Sauvageot) a activement soutenu la candidature de Mitterrand en 1980-1981 (voir sur point le livre de J.G. Padioleau, Le monde et le Washington post - Précepteurs et mousquetaires, Paris, Puf : 1985), puis qu'il a soutenu celle d'Edouard Balladur. 
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@@ -173,7 +173,7 @@ c'est Philippe Labarde qui a ete directeur apres Bruno Frappat.
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 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="rm_bavardage" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|rm_bavardage|2007-02-01T09:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|David.Monniaux|2007-02-01T09:43:00.000Z|rm_bavardage&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|rm_bavardage|2007-02-01T09:43:00.000Z"></span>rm bavardage<span data-mw-comment-end="h|rm_bavardage|2007-02-01T09:43:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|David.Monniaux|2007-02-01T09:43:00.000Z|rm_bavardage"></span>J'ai viré plusieurs paragraphes qui contenaient du bavardage orienté (en faveur du Monde) et sans sources. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:David.Monniaux" title="Utilisateur:David.Monniaux">David.Monniaux</a> 1 février 2007 à 10:43 (CET)
->>>> Commentaire : cela ne m'étonne pas, vous préférez laisser les assertions orientées contre Le Monde. Péan l'aboyeur mercenaire payé par les défenseurs du secret d'Etat... Vous serez le premier à regretter Le Monde quand il disparaitra.<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|David.Monniaux|2007-02-01T09:43:00.000Z|rm_bavardage&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2007-02-01T09:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;David.Monniaux&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+>>>> Commentaire : cela ne m'étonne pas, vous préférez laisser les assertions orientées contre Le Monde. Péan l'aboyeur mercenaire payé par les défenseurs du secret d'Etat... Vous serez le premier à regretter Le Monde quand il disparaitra.<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|David.Monniaux|2007-02-01T09:43:00.000Z|rm_bavardage&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2007-02-01T09:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;David.Monniaux&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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 <h2><span id="une_notice_m.C3.A9diodre"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="une_notice_médiodre" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|une_notice_m\u00e9diodre&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|une_notice_médiodre"></span>une notice médiodre<span data-mw-comment-end="h|une_notice_médiodre"></span></span></h2>
 <p>Il n'y a rien à tirer de cette notice, qui est ni faite ni à faire. J'entends déjà la rengaine : "Qu'à cela ne tienne, prend ton clavier à deux mains, mon coco, et fais profiter de ta suffisance et de ton savoir sûrement immense la collectivité". Eh bien non : que ladite collectivité se contente de l'écume de l'histoire et que, si le sujet l'intéresse, elle se rende dans n'importe quelle bibliothèque pour lire un des livres - ô certes aucun n'est parfait, loin s'en faut, mais à mille pieds au-dessus de la médiocrité vaguement polémique de cette article... - cité en bibliographie. 
@@ -189,7 +189,7 @@ max (passablement énervé de voir la notice, écrite en mauvais français, embr
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 <ul><li>grosse suspicion de plagiat ;</li>
 <li>affirmation fausse (non verification des sources)</li></ul>
-<p>Est-ce que Le Monde surveille ses journalistes et les forme ? Aussi, la direction afaisant le dans ces cas <b>choix du spectaculaire, au détriment de la qualité</b>, ne devrait-on pas le mettre en echos de cet article de <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0,1-0@2-3236,36-996204@51-996263,0.html">cet article</a> de <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Fran%C3%A7ois_Kahn" title="Jean-François Kahn">Jean-François Kahn</a>, critiquant l'orientation commerciale et ses effet nefaste dans les journaux ? Et vu que c'est un choix de la direction : qu'elle l'assume pleinement, et que ce soit donc clairement dit dans l'article, avec des sources (comme <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.maneu.fr/archives/357">ceci</a> ; l'experience d'Anthere sur son blog, etc.). <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sp%C3%A9cial:Contributions/140.122.97.4" title="Spécial:Contributions/140.122.97.4">140.122.97.4</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:140.122.97.4" title="Discussion utilisateur:140.122.97.4">d</a>) 7 janvier 2008 à 07:27 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|140.122.97.4|2008-01-07T06:27:00.000Z|Le_Monde_:_parfois_poubelle&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2008-01-07T06:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;140.122.97.4&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p>Est-ce que Le Monde surveille ses journalistes et les forme ? Aussi, la direction afaisant le dans ces cas <b>choix du spectaculaire, au détriment de la qualité</b>, ne devrait-on pas le mettre en echos de cet article de <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0,1-0@2-3236,36-996204@51-996263,0.html">cet article</a> de <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Fran%C3%A7ois_Kahn" title="Jean-François Kahn">Jean-François Kahn</a>, critiquant l'orientation commerciale et ses effet nefaste dans les journaux ? Et vu que c'est un choix de la direction : qu'elle l'assume pleinement, et que ce soit donc clairement dit dans l'article, avec des sources (comme <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.maneu.fr/archives/357">ceci</a> ; l'experience d'Anthere sur son blog, etc.). <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sp%C3%A9cial:Contributions/140.122.97.4" title="Spécial:Contributions/140.122.97.4">140.122.97.4</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:140.122.97.4" title="Discussion utilisateur:140.122.97.4">d</a>) 7 janvier 2008 à 07:27 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|140.122.97.4|2008-01-07T06:27:00.000Z|Le_Monde_:_parfois_poubelle&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2008-01-07T06:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;140.122.97.4&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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 <p>Il me semble indispensable de mentionner la thèse de Patrick Eveno <i></i>
@@ -197,16 +197,16 @@ max (passablement énervé de voir la notice, écrite en mauvais français, embr
 <pre>Le Monde : histoire d'une entreprise de presse, 1944-1995<i>.</i>
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 <h2><span id="Pol.C3.A9mique_et_BHL"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Polémique_et_BHL" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Pol\u00e9mique_et_BHL|2008-09-02T11:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|LPLT|2008-09-02T11:36:00.000Z|Pol\u00e9mique_et_BHL&quot;,&quot;c|Cchantep|2008-09-03T16:46:00.000Z|Pol\u00e9mique_et_BHL&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Polémique_et_BHL|2008-09-02T11:36:00.000Z"></span>Polémique et BHL<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Polémique_et_BHL|2008-09-02T11:36:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Ahbon%3F" title="Utilisateur:Ahbon?"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|LPLT|2008-09-02T11:36:00.000Z|Polémique_et_BHL"></span>Utilisateur:Ahbon?</a> persiste à mettre la polémique entourant le recit du voyage de BHL en Ossétie ds une rubrique plus large des polémique du Monde et entre dans un conflit d'éditions potentiel. C'est a mon avis tout a fait inapproprié dans le sens où les « Témoignages » ou « Opinions » publiés dans le Monde <b>n'engagent que leurs auteurs pas le journal</b>. Et la réponse du médiateur du Monde (que je n'ai pas lue) ne justifie en rien d'impliquer Le Monde dans les raccourcis et prises de positions de BHL. Cette partie doit etre supprimée de cette page, ama, et a toute sa place sur la page de BHL.--<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:LPLT" title="Utilisateur:LPLT">LPLT</a> <sup><small> [<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:LPLT" title="Discussion utilisateur:LPLT">discu</a>]</small></sup> 2 septembre 2008 à 13:36 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|LPLT|2008-09-02T11:36:00.000Z|Pol\u00e9mique_et_BHL&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ahbon?|2008-09-03T10:45:00.000Z|LPLT|2008-09-02T11:36:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2008-09-02T11:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;LPLT&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Ahbon%3F" title="Utilisateur:Ahbon?"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|LPLT|2008-09-02T11:36:00.000Z|Polémique_et_BHL"></span>Utilisateur:Ahbon?</a> persiste à mettre la polémique entourant le recit du voyage de BHL en Ossétie ds une rubrique plus large des polémique du Monde et entre dans un conflit d'éditions potentiel. C'est a mon avis tout a fait inapproprié dans le sens où les « Témoignages » ou « Opinions » publiés dans le Monde <b>n'engagent que leurs auteurs pas le journal</b>. Et la réponse du médiateur du Monde (que je n'ai pas lue) ne justifie en rien d'impliquer Le Monde dans les raccourcis et prises de positions de BHL. Cette partie doit etre supprimée de cette page, ama, et a toute sa place sur la page de BHL.--<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:LPLT" title="Utilisateur:LPLT">LPLT</a> <sup><small> [<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:LPLT" title="Discussion utilisateur:LPLT">discu</a>]</small></sup> 2 septembre 2008 à 13:36 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|LPLT|2008-09-02T11:36:00.000Z|Pol\u00e9mique_et_BHL&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ahbon?|2008-09-03T10:45:00.000Z|LPLT|2008-09-02T11:36:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2008-09-02T11:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;LPLT&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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 <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ahbon?|2008-09-03T10:45:00.000Z|LPLT|2008-09-02T11:36:00.000Z"></span>D'une part, <i>Le Monde</i> est responsable de qui il invite. Un journal prestigieux accrédite les propos qui sont tenus à l'intérieur, même s'ils ne sont "que" des témoignages. En outre, la publication par <i>Le Monde</i> de ce témoignage a fait boule de neige, le quotidien de référence français ayant été imité par la presse internationale, posant de sérieuses questions au niveau de la crédibilité de l'information en général - débat auquel <i>Le Monde</i>, de par son statut, ne peut échapper.</dd>
-<dd>Cette question fait débat, notamment entre <i>Rue 89</i> et le médiateur du <i>Monde</i>, qui s'abrite précisément derrière cet argument pour dédouaner <i>Le Monde</i>. D'autre part, LPLT et Mons affirment que cet exemple est anecdotique au regard d'évènements semblables: citez-en d'autres, alors, plus parlant! Enfin, la section "Critiques" est sous-développée, donc cet exemple prend une valeur accrue. PS: je rajoute le lien vers l'article du médiateur. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Ahbon%3F" title="Utilisateur:Ahbon?">Ahbon?</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Ahbon%3F" title="Discussion utilisateur:Ahbon?">d</a>) 3 septembre 2008 à 12:45 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ahbon?|2008-09-03T10:45:00.000Z|LPLT|2008-09-02T11:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|LPLT|2008-09-03T11:04:00.000Z|Ahbon?|2008-09-03T10:45:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2008-09-03T10:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ahbon?&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ahbon?|2008-09-03T10:45:00.000Z|LPLT|2008-09-02T11:36:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|LPLT|2008-09-03T11:04:00.000Z|Ahbon?|2008-09-03T10:45:00.000Z"></span>Plusieurs points doivent etre éclaircis : non dans une rubrique « opinion » ou « témoignage » un journal n'est pas responsable des propos ou affirmation des auteurs des articles : il ouvre ses colonnes un point c'est tout. <u>BHL signe son article seul, pas un journaliste du monde ou Le Monde lui-meme</u>, donc vos ajouts n'ont pas lieu d'etre. Les erreurs, imprécisions, affabulations voire mensonges de BHL n'ont pas a etre imputés au Monde mais a BHL seul et c'est bien de cela que traite l'<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.rue89.com/2008/08/22/bhl-na-pas-vu-toutes-ses-choses-vues-en-georgie">article de rue89</a> : il n'y a aucune accusation du journal, de sa ligne éditorial, ou de la publication de l'article, mais des propos de BHL. Vous distordez l'article complètement pour attaquer le Monde. Vos ajouts ne sont absolument pas fidele au contenu de la polémique et sont PoV envers le Monde. Enfin votre guerre d'édition avec 2 contributeurs sans justification ou discussion, et lente reaction au dialogue ne sont pas favorables au maintien de cette affaire qui ne concerne <b>pas le journal mais BHL</b> : qu'elle prenne toute sa place sur sa page, mais pas là. En consèquence, si vous ne cessez pas cela, je vais demander l'intervention d'un wikipompier ou d'un administrateur sur cette page. Cordialement--<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:LPLT" title="Utilisateur:LPLT">LPLT</a> <sup><small> [<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:LPLT" title="Discussion utilisateur:LPLT">discu</a>]</small></sup> 3 septembre 2008 à 13:04 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|LPLT|2008-09-03T11:04:00.000Z|Ahbon?|2008-09-03T10:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ahbon?|2008-09-03T16:32:00.000Z|LPLT|2008-09-03T11:04:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2008-09-03T11:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;LPLT&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<dd>Cette question fait débat, notamment entre <i>Rue 89</i> et le médiateur du <i>Monde</i>, qui s'abrite précisément derrière cet argument pour dédouaner <i>Le Monde</i>. D'autre part, LPLT et Mons affirment que cet exemple est anecdotique au regard d'évènements semblables: citez-en d'autres, alors, plus parlant! Enfin, la section "Critiques" est sous-développée, donc cet exemple prend une valeur accrue. PS: je rajoute le lien vers l'article du médiateur. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Ahbon%3F" title="Utilisateur:Ahbon?">Ahbon?</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Ahbon%3F" title="Discussion utilisateur:Ahbon?">d</a>) 3 septembre 2008 à 12:45 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ahbon?|2008-09-03T10:45:00.000Z|LPLT|2008-09-02T11:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|LPLT|2008-09-03T11:04:00.000Z|Ahbon?|2008-09-03T10:45:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2008-09-03T10:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ahbon?&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ahbon?|2008-09-03T10:45:00.000Z|LPLT|2008-09-02T11:36:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|LPLT|2008-09-03T11:04:00.000Z|Ahbon?|2008-09-03T10:45:00.000Z"></span>Plusieurs points doivent etre éclaircis : non dans une rubrique « opinion » ou « témoignage » un journal n'est pas responsable des propos ou affirmation des auteurs des articles : il ouvre ses colonnes un point c'est tout. <u>BHL signe son article seul, pas un journaliste du monde ou Le Monde lui-meme</u>, donc vos ajouts n'ont pas lieu d'etre. Les erreurs, imprécisions, affabulations voire mensonges de BHL n'ont pas a etre imputés au Monde mais a BHL seul et c'est bien de cela que traite l'<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.rue89.com/2008/08/22/bhl-na-pas-vu-toutes-ses-choses-vues-en-georgie">article de rue89</a> : il n'y a aucune accusation du journal, de sa ligne éditorial, ou de la publication de l'article, mais des propos de BHL. Vous distordez l'article complètement pour attaquer le Monde. Vos ajouts ne sont absolument pas fidele au contenu de la polémique et sont PoV envers le Monde. Enfin votre guerre d'édition avec 2 contributeurs sans justification ou discussion, et lente reaction au dialogue ne sont pas favorables au maintien de cette affaire qui ne concerne <b>pas le journal mais BHL</b> : qu'elle prenne toute sa place sur sa page, mais pas là. En consèquence, si vous ne cessez pas cela, je vais demander l'intervention d'un wikipompier ou d'un administrateur sur cette page. Cordialement--<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:LPLT" title="Utilisateur:LPLT">LPLT</a> <sup><small> [<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:LPLT" title="Discussion utilisateur:LPLT">discu</a>]</small></sup> 3 septembre 2008 à 13:04 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|LPLT|2008-09-03T11:04:00.000Z|Ahbon?|2008-09-03T10:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ahbon?|2008-09-03T16:32:00.000Z|LPLT|2008-09-03T11:04:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2008-09-03T11:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;LPLT&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
 <span data-mw-comment-end="c|LPLT|2008-09-03T11:04:00.000Z|Ahbon?|2008-09-03T10:45:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ahbon?|2008-09-03T16:32:00.000Z|LPLT|2008-09-03T11:04:00.000Z"></span>La chronique de la médiatrice du <i>Monde</i> commence ainsi: "<i>Le Monde a-t-il publié un article mensonger ? C'est l'une des accusations les plus graves que l'on puisse porter contre un journal. C'est pourtant la question que nous posent les lecteurs, alertés par l'Internet.</i>" et continue en affirmant "Il fallait en avoir le coeur net. D'autant que <i>la crédibilité du Monde n'est pas seule en cause</i> : le Corriere della Sera (Italie), El Mundo (Espagne), l'Expressen (Suède), le Huffington Post (Etats-Unis) et la Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (Allemagne) ont tous publié ce récit, assorti, pour la dernière, d'un éditorial expliquant pourquoi les critiques émises par Rue89 ne lui semblaient pas pertinentes.". <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.lemonde.fr/archives/article/2008/08/30/gori-brule-t-il-par-veronique-maurus_1089643_0.html">Gori brûle-t-il?</a></dd>
 <dd>Contrairement à vous, la médiatrice du Monde affirme bien que c'est la crédibilité du quotidien qui est en jeu, avant d'affirmer que celle-ci est sauvée, puisque ce serait un "détail" de savoir s'il y avait 30 ou 100 véhicules, "De même pour le braquage d'une voiture sur la route de Gori", autre détail (inventé ou pas par BHL), de même aussi "l'odeur de putréfaction", qui serait "subjective", tandis que dire qu'on a atteint Gori alors qu'en fait on est resté dans les faubourgs, ce n'est pas grave non plus.</dd>
 <dd>Le problème, dès lors, pour Wikipédia, n'est pas de savoir si ces faits rapportés par BHL sont, ou non, des "détails" (on pourrait ironiser dans ce cas, puisque tout son article ne contiendrait que des détails), mais si des observateurs indépendants (pas nous autres Wikipédiens) ont considéré qu'il s'agissait d'un événement mettant en cause Le Monde. Or, le journal concerné l'a admis: cela le met en cause s'il s'agissait bien d' "affabulation", avant de rejeter cette accusation.</dd>
-<dd>En un mot, votre argument vous est personnel, et n'est pas partagé par <i>Le Monde</i>. Merci de mettre les accusations <i>ad hominem</i> de côté, cordialement <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Ahbon%3F" title="Utilisateur:Ahbon?">Ahbon?</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Ahbon%3F" title="Discussion utilisateur:Ahbon?">d</a>) 3 septembre 2008 à 18:32 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ahbon?|2008-09-03T16:32:00.000Z|LPLT|2008-09-03T11:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|LPLT|2008-09-03T16:43:00.000Z|Ahbon?|2008-09-03T16:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2008-09-03T16:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ahbon?&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ahbon?|2008-09-03T16:32:00.000Z|LPLT|2008-09-03T11:04:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|LPLT|2008-09-03T16:43:00.000Z|Ahbon?|2008-09-03T16:32:00.000Z"></span>Je cite : <q class="citation">était-il légitime de publier, sous l'apparence d'un reportage, un récit prenant aussi clairement parti pour les Géorgiens ? BHL n'est pas journaliste et ne le prétend pas. "J'assume ma subjectivité", dit-il. De fait, dès le premier paragraphe, le lecteur savait à quoi s'en tenir, d'autant mieux que le texte était présenté comme le "témoignage" d'un "philosophe et essayiste". Le Monde a toujours publié ce genre de récits, qu'ils soient signés John Le Carré, Mario Vargas Llosa ou François Maspero. En sus et non à la place des reportages de ses envoyés spéciaux - c'était le cas. "On peut imaginer une présentation qui distingue encore mieux ces textes des reportages du Monde</q>. La médiatrice explique bien que <u>cela engage le signataire qui n'est pas journaliste du Monde</u>, dans un texte qui est présenté comme un témoignage. C'est donc clairement écrit et c'est vous qui distordez la réalité pour tenter decrédibiliser le Monde. Votre insistance ne fait que démontrer la chose de mon point de vue. Que n'avez-vous écrit cela sur la page de BHL <a class="external text" href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bernard-Henri_L%C3%A9vy&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=32965127">dif</a> avant que de l'écrire sur celle du Monde <a class="external text" href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Le_Monde&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=32964992">diff</a>.--<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:LPLT" title="Utilisateur:LPLT">LPLT</a> <sup><small> [<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:LPLT" title="Discussion utilisateur:LPLT">discu</a>]</small></sup> 3 septembre 2008 à 18:43 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|LPLT|2008-09-03T16:43:00.000Z|Ahbon?|2008-09-03T16:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2008-09-03T16:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;LPLT&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|LPLT|2008-09-03T16:43:00.000Z|Ahbon?|2008-09-03T16:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dd>En un mot, votre argument vous est personnel, et n'est pas partagé par <i>Le Monde</i>. Merci de mettre les accusations <i>ad hominem</i> de côté, cordialement <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Ahbon%3F" title="Utilisateur:Ahbon?">Ahbon?</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Ahbon%3F" title="Discussion utilisateur:Ahbon?">d</a>) 3 septembre 2008 à 18:32 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ahbon?|2008-09-03T16:32:00.000Z|LPLT|2008-09-03T11:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|LPLT|2008-09-03T16:43:00.000Z|Ahbon?|2008-09-03T16:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2008-09-03T16:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ahbon?&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ahbon?|2008-09-03T16:32:00.000Z|LPLT|2008-09-03T11:04:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|LPLT|2008-09-03T16:43:00.000Z|Ahbon?|2008-09-03T16:32:00.000Z"></span>Je cite : <q class="citation">était-il légitime de publier, sous l'apparence d'un reportage, un récit prenant aussi clairement parti pour les Géorgiens ? BHL n'est pas journaliste et ne le prétend pas. "J'assume ma subjectivité", dit-il. De fait, dès le premier paragraphe, le lecteur savait à quoi s'en tenir, d'autant mieux que le texte était présenté comme le "témoignage" d'un "philosophe et essayiste". Le Monde a toujours publié ce genre de récits, qu'ils soient signés John Le Carré, Mario Vargas Llosa ou François Maspero. En sus et non à la place des reportages de ses envoyés spéciaux - c'était le cas. "On peut imaginer une présentation qui distingue encore mieux ces textes des reportages du Monde</q>. La médiatrice explique bien que <u>cela engage le signataire qui n'est pas journaliste du Monde</u>, dans un texte qui est présenté comme un témoignage. C'est donc clairement écrit et c'est vous qui distordez la réalité pour tenter decrédibiliser le Monde. Votre insistance ne fait que démontrer la chose de mon point de vue. Que n'avez-vous écrit cela sur la page de BHL <a class="external text" href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bernard-Henri_L%C3%A9vy&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=32965127">dif</a> avant que de l'écrire sur celle du Monde <a class="external text" href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Le_Monde&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=32964992">diff</a>.--<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:LPLT" title="Utilisateur:LPLT">LPLT</a> <sup><small> [<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:LPLT" title="Discussion utilisateur:LPLT">discu</a>]</small></sup> 3 septembre 2008 à 18:43 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|LPLT|2008-09-03T16:43:00.000Z|Ahbon?|2008-09-03T16:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2008-09-03T16:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;LPLT&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|LPLT|2008-09-03T16:43:00.000Z|Ahbon?|2008-09-03T16:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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 <div class="floatleft"><a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichier:Feuerwehreinsatz-gan1.jpg" class="image"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Cchantep|2008-09-03T16:46:00.000Z|Polémique_et_BHL"></span><img alt="Feuerwehreinsatz-gan1.jpg" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6b/Feuerwehreinsatz-gan1.jpg/50px-Feuerwehreinsatz-gan1.jpg" decoding="async" width="50" height="38" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6b/Feuerwehreinsatz-gan1.jpg/75px-Feuerwehreinsatz-gan1.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6b/Feuerwehreinsatz-gan1.jpg/100px-Feuerwehreinsatz-gan1.jpg 2x" data-file-width="400" data-file-height="300"/></a></div> Bonjour, <b>ce bandeau indique que <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Cchantep" title="Utilisateur:Cchantep">Cchantep</a> a pris en compte la demande de médiation en tant que <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Wikipompiers" title="Wikipédia:Wikipompiers">wikipompier</a></b>.
 <p><br/>Merci de patienter, une revue par le ou les wikipompiers de la discussion et de l'historique, est nécessaire pour comprendre le problème et proposer une médiation. Cette page porte sur un thème facilement sujet à controverses ; les intervenants sont donc invités à une prudence particulière. 
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-<p>Les intervenants sont invités à débatter sur la <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Wikipompiers/Feu-20080903111057" title="Wikipédia:Wikipompiers/Feu-20080903111057">page de médiation</a>. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Cchantep" title="Utilisateur:Cchantep">Cchantep</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Cchantep" title="Discussion utilisateur:Cchantep">d</a>) 3 septembre 2008 à 18:46 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Cchantep|2008-09-03T16:46:00.000Z|Pol\u00e9mique_et_BHL&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2008-09-03T16:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Cchantep&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p>Les intervenants sont invités à débatter sur la <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Wikipompiers/Feu-20080903111057" title="Wikipédia:Wikipompiers/Feu-20080903111057">page de médiation</a>. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Cchantep" title="Utilisateur:Cchantep">Cchantep</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Cchantep" title="Discussion utilisateur:Cchantep">d</a>) 3 septembre 2008 à 18:46 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Cchantep|2008-09-03T16:46:00.000Z|Pol\u00e9mique_et_BHL&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2008-09-03T16:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Cchantep&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Icones_et_TI" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Icones_et_TI|2009-03-22T18:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|LPLT|2009-03-22T18:08:00.000Z|Icones_et_TI&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Icones_et_TI|2009-03-22T18:08:00.000Z"></span>Icones et TI<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Icones_et_TI|2009-03-22T18:08:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|LPLT|2009-03-22T18:08:00.000Z|Icones_et_TI"></span>La partie icones récemment ajoutée m'a tout l'air d'un beau <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:TI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipédia:TI">WP:TI</a> non sourcé. Donc en l'absence d'ajout rapide de publications soutenant et vérifiant les dires de ce chapitre, je le supprimerai sous peu.--<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:LPLT" title="Utilisateur:LPLT">LPLT</a> <sup><small> [<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:LPLT" title="Discussion utilisateur:LPLT">discu</a>]</small></sup> 22 mars 2009 à 19:08 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|LPLT|2009-03-22T18:08:00.000Z|Icones_et_TI&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|LPLT|2009-03-30T15:40:00.000Z|LPLT|2009-03-22T18:08:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2009-03-22T18:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;LPLT&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|LPLT|2009-03-22T18:08:00.000Z|Icones_et_TI"></span>La partie icones récemment ajoutée m'a tout l'air d'un beau <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:TI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipédia:TI">WP:TI</a> non sourcé. Donc en l'absence d'ajout rapide de publications soutenant et vérifiant les dires de ce chapitre, je le supprimerai sous peu.--<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:LPLT" title="Utilisateur:LPLT">LPLT</a> <sup><small> [<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:LPLT" title="Discussion utilisateur:LPLT">discu</a>]</small></sup> 22 mars 2009 à 19:08 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|LPLT|2009-03-22T18:08:00.000Z|Icones_et_TI&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|LPLT|2009-03-30T15:40:00.000Z|LPLT|2009-03-22T18:08:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2009-03-22T18:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;LPLT&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|LPLT|2009-03-30T15:40:00.000Z|LPLT|2009-03-22T18:08:00.000Z"></span>Aucune réaction en 7j, aucun sourcage ---> suppression de ce TI --<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:LPLT" title="Utilisateur:LPLT">LPLT</a> <sup><small> [<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:LPLT" title="Discussion utilisateur:LPLT">discu</a>]</small></sup> 30 mars 2009 à 17:40 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|LPLT|2009-03-30T15:40:00.000Z|LPLT|2009-03-22T18:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2009-03-30T15:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;LPLT&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|LPLT|2009-03-30T15:40:00.000Z|LPLT|2009-03-22T18:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|LPLT|2009-03-30T15:40:00.000Z|LPLT|2009-03-22T18:08:00.000Z"></span>Aucune réaction en 7j, aucun sourcage ---> suppression de ce TI --<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:LPLT" title="Utilisateur:LPLT">LPLT</a> <sup><small> [<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:LPLT" title="Discussion utilisateur:LPLT">discu</a>]</small></sup> 30 mars 2009 à 17:40 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|LPLT|2009-03-30T15:40:00.000Z|LPLT|2009-03-22T18:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2009-03-30T15:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;LPLT&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|LPLT|2009-03-30T15:40:00.000Z|LPLT|2009-03-22T18:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|LPLT|2009-04-02T07:55:00.000Z|Positionnement_politique"></span>Le même auteur (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Despointes" title="Utilisateur:Despointes"><span title="page utilisateur du compte Despointes">Despointes</span></a> <small class="plainlinks">(<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Despointes" title="Discussion utilisateur:Despointes"><abbr class="abbr" title="page de discussion du compte Despointes">d</abbr></a> · <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sp%C3%A9cial:Contributions/Despointes" title="Spécial:Contributions/Despointes"><abbr class="abbr" title="contributions du compte Despointes">c</abbr></a> · <a class="external text" href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sp%C3%A9cial:Log&amp;type=block&amp;page=User:Despointes"><span style="color:#002bb8;"><abbr class="abbr" title="blocages du compte Despointes">b</abbr></span></a>)</small>) s'était également fendu d'un beau <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:TI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipédia:TI">WP:TI</a> non sourcé sur le positionnement politique du Monde. Sans références apportées rapidement, ce chapitre sera revu en profondeur.--<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:LPLT" title="Utilisateur:LPLT">LPLT</a> <sup><small> [<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:LPLT" title="Discussion utilisateur:LPLT">discu</a>]</small></sup> 2 avril 2009 à 09:55 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|LPLT|2009-04-02T07:55:00.000Z|Positionnement_politique&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Bokken|2009-04-03T09:11:00.000Z|LPLT|2009-04-02T07:55:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2009-04-02T07:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;LPLT&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|LPLT|2009-04-02T07:55:00.000Z|Positionnement_politique"></span>Le même auteur (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Despointes" title="Utilisateur:Despointes"><span title="page utilisateur du compte Despointes">Despointes</span></a> <small class="plainlinks">(<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Despointes" title="Discussion utilisateur:Despointes"><abbr class="abbr" title="page de discussion du compte Despointes">d</abbr></a> · <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sp%C3%A9cial:Contributions/Despointes" title="Spécial:Contributions/Despointes"><abbr class="abbr" title="contributions du compte Despointes">c</abbr></a> · <a class="external text" href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sp%C3%A9cial:Log&amp;type=block&amp;page=User:Despointes"><span style="color:#002bb8;"><abbr class="abbr" title="blocages du compte Despointes">b</abbr></span></a>)</small>) s'était également fendu d'un beau <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:TI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipédia:TI">WP:TI</a> non sourcé sur le positionnement politique du Monde. Sans références apportées rapidement, ce chapitre sera revu en profondeur.--<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:LPLT" title="Utilisateur:LPLT">LPLT</a> <sup><small> [<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:LPLT" title="Discussion utilisateur:LPLT">discu</a>]</small></sup> 2 avril 2009 à 09:55 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|LPLT|2009-04-02T07:55:00.000Z|Positionnement_politique&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Bokken|2009-04-03T09:11:00.000Z|LPLT|2009-04-02T07:55:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2009-04-02T07:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;LPLT&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bokken|2009-04-03T09:11:00.000Z|LPLT|2009-04-02T07:55:00.000Z"></span>Page semi-protégée ce jour. J'ai pris contact avec l'initiateur de l'appel (qui est dans la même université que moi) afin de lui expliquer en quoi son invitation à modifier l'article était vouée à l'échec car ne correspondant pas aux règles de Wikipédia. J'espère pouvoir rapidement lever la semi-protection. -- <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Bokken" title="Utilisateur:Bokken">Bokken</a> | <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Bokken" title="Discussion utilisateur:Bokken">木刀</a> 3 avril 2009 à 11:11 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bokken|2009-04-03T09:11:00.000Z|LPLT|2009-04-02T07:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2009-04-03T09:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bokken&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bokken|2009-04-03T09:11:00.000Z|LPLT|2009-04-02T07:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bokken|2009-04-03T09:11:00.000Z|LPLT|2009-04-02T07:55:00.000Z"></span>Page semi-protégée ce jour. J'ai pris contact avec l'initiateur de l'appel (qui est dans la même université que moi) afin de lui expliquer en quoi son invitation à modifier l'article était vouée à l'échec car ne correspondant pas aux règles de Wikipédia. J'espère pouvoir rapidement lever la semi-protection. -- <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Bokken" title="Utilisateur:Bokken">Bokken</a> | <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Bokken" title="Discussion utilisateur:Bokken">木刀</a> 3 avril 2009 à 11:11 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bokken|2009-04-03T09:11:00.000Z|LPLT|2009-04-02T07:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2009-04-03T09:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bokken&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bokken|2009-04-03T09:11:00.000Z|LPLT|2009-04-02T07:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gegejv|2009-04-03T20:10:00.000Z|Positionnement_politique"></span>"Les informations sont traitées avec rigueur, dans le style de la presse anglo-saxonne qui sépare nettement l'information du commentaire."
 </p><p>J'ai supprimé cette phrase qui est démentie aujourd'hui par l'analyse sociologique très rigoureusement conduite  par Henri Maler, Olivier Poche et publiée sur le site de l'observatoire des médias Acrimed sous le titre "Le Monde et le mouvement universitaire" le 18 mars 2009 : <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.acrimed.org/article3102.html">http://www.acrimed.org/article3102.html</a> 
-</p><p>--<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Gegejv" title="Utilisateur:Gegejv">Gegejv</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Gegejv" title="Discussion utilisateur:Gegejv">d</a>) 3 avril 2009 à 22:10 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gegejv|2009-04-03T20:10:00.000Z|Positionnement_politique&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Mogador|2009-04-04T12:14:00.000Z|Gegejv|2009-04-03T20:10:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2009-04-03T20:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gegejv&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+</p><p>--<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Gegejv" title="Utilisateur:Gegejv">Gegejv</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Gegejv" title="Discussion utilisateur:Gegejv">d</a>) 3 avril 2009 à 22:10 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gegejv|2009-04-03T20:10:00.000Z|Positionnement_politique&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Mogador|2009-04-04T12:14:00.000Z|Gegejv|2009-04-03T20:10:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2009-04-03T20:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gegejv&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Mogador|2009-04-04T12:14:00.000Z|Gegejv|2009-04-03T20:10:00.000Z"></span>En tout état de cause, cette affirmation doit être attribuée et sourcée. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Mogador" title="Utilisateur:Mogador">Mogador </a>  <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Mogador" title="Discussion utilisateur:Mogador"><big><big>✉</big></big></a> 4 avril 2009 à 14:14 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mogador|2009-04-04T12:14:00.000Z|Gegejv|2009-04-03T20:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2009-04-04T12:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mogador&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Mogador|2009-04-04T12:14:00.000Z|Gegejv|2009-04-03T20:10:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Mogador|2009-04-04T12:14:00.000Z|Gegejv|2009-04-03T20:10:00.000Z"></span>En tout état de cause, cette affirmation doit être attribuée et sourcée. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Mogador" title="Utilisateur:Mogador">Mogador </a>  <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Mogador" title="Discussion utilisateur:Mogador"><big><big>✉</big></big></a> 4 avril 2009 à 14:14 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mogador|2009-04-04T12:14:00.000Z|Gegejv|2009-04-03T20:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2009-04-04T12:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mogador&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Mogador|2009-04-04T12:14:00.000Z|Gegejv|2009-04-03T20:10:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Pixeltoo|2009-04-22T11:05:00.000Z|«Considéré_par_certains»→_Qui_?"></span>Qui considère ce journal comme le quotidien de référence ? --<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Pixeltoo" title="Utilisateur:Pixeltoo">pixeltoo</a> <small>(<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Pixeltoo" title="Discussion utilisateur:Pixeltoo">discuter</a>)</small> 22 avril 2009 à 13:05 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pixeltoo|2009-04-22T11:05:00.000Z|\u00abConsid\u00e9r\u00e9_par_certains\u00bb\u2192_Qui_?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2009-04-22T11:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pixeltoo&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Pixeltoo|2009-04-22T11:05:00.000Z|«Considéré_par_certains»→_Qui_?"></span>Qui considère ce journal comme le quotidien de référence ? --<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Pixeltoo" title="Utilisateur:Pixeltoo">pixeltoo</a> <small>(<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Pixeltoo" title="Discussion utilisateur:Pixeltoo">discuter</a>)</small> 22 avril 2009 à 13:05 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pixeltoo|2009-04-22T11:05:00.000Z|\u00abConsid\u00e9r\u00e9_par_certains\u00bb\u2192_Qui_?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2009-04-22T11:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pixeltoo&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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 <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>c'est le journal de référence français à l'étranger, c'est pas pour rien que Wikileaks a donné l'exclu au Monde.... Plus sérieusement, il y a el Pais, le corriere della serra, le guardian et le Monde pour la France.... C'est aussi le plus lu. Je pense donc que pour tout le monde c'est le journal de référence d'autant plus qu'il ne s'adresse pas à un courant politique en particulier (à l'inverse de la plupart des autres quotidiens)</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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@@ -244,56 +244,56 @@ max (passablement énervé de voir la notice, écrite en mauvais français, embr
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Pertinence_de_la_liste_des_journalistes_actuels_du_Monde" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Pertinence_de_la_liste_des_journalistes_actuels_du_Monde|2010-01-02T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Arkanosis|2010-01-02T12:01:00.000Z|Pertinence_de_la_liste_des_journalistes_actuels_du_Monde&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Pertinence_de_la_liste_des_journalistes_actuels_du_Monde|2010-01-02T12:01:00.000Z"></span>Pertinence de la liste des journalistes actuels du Monde<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Pertinence_de_la_liste_des_journalistes_actuels_du_Monde|2010-01-02T12:01:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Arkanosis|2010-01-02T12:01:00.000Z|Pertinence_de_la_liste_des_journalistes_actuels_du_Monde"></span>Bonjour,
 </p><p><a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Monde#Les_journalistes_actuels_du_Monde" title="Le Monde">Cette liste</a> a-t-elle un réel apport encyclopédique en tant que liste ? Parce que je ne suis pas convaincu qu'individuellement, chacun des journalistes mentionnés satisfasse <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:CAA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipédia:CAA">WP:CAA</a>.
-</p><p>Amicalement — <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Arkanosis" title="Utilisateur:Arkanosis">Arkanosis</a> <sup><a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Arkanosis" title="Discussion utilisateur:Arkanosis">✉</a></sup> 2 janvier 2010 à 13:01 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Arkanosis|2010-01-02T12:01:00.000Z|Pertinence_de_la_liste_des_journalistes_actuels_du_Monde&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Bokken|2010-01-02T13:18:00.000Z|Arkanosis|2010-01-02T12:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2010-01-02T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Arkanosis&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+</p><p>Amicalement — <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Arkanosis" title="Utilisateur:Arkanosis">Arkanosis</a> <sup><a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Arkanosis" title="Discussion utilisateur:Arkanosis">✉</a></sup> 2 janvier 2010 à 13:01 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Arkanosis|2010-01-02T12:01:00.000Z|Pertinence_de_la_liste_des_journalistes_actuels_du_Monde&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Bokken|2010-01-02T13:18:00.000Z|Arkanosis|2010-01-02T12:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2010-01-02T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Arkanosis&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bokken|2010-01-02T13:18:00.000Z|Arkanosis|2010-01-02T12:01:00.000Z"></span>Il me semble que cette liste est dénuée d'apport proprement encyclopédique (faute de commentaire sourcé à en faire), et donc ressort de la base de données. À virer, donc. -- <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Bokken" title="Utilisateur:Bokken">Bokken</a> | <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Bokken" title="Discussion utilisateur:Bokken">木刀</a> 2 janvier 2010 à 14:18 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bokken|2010-01-02T13:18:00.000Z|Arkanosis|2010-01-02T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Alastair|2011-02-26T14:23:00.000Z|Bokken|2010-01-02T13:18:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2010-01-02T13:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bokken&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bokken|2010-01-02T13:18:00.000Z|Arkanosis|2010-01-02T12:01:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Alastair|2011-02-26T14:23:00.000Z|Bokken|2010-01-02T13:18:00.000Z"></span>Je suis d'accord avec <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Bokken" title="Utilisateur:Bokken">Bokken</a>. La liste des anciens journalistes ne me paraît pas pertinente non plus. Elle n'apporte pas de compréhension à ce qu'est le journal. --<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Alastair" title="Utilisateur:Alastair">Alastair</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Alastair" title="Discussion utilisateur:Alastair">d</a>) 26 février 2011 à 15:23 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Alastair|2011-02-26T14:23:00.000Z|Bokken|2010-01-02T13:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Azoee|2011-02-28T09:33:00.000Z|Alastair|2011-02-26T14:23:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2011-02-26T14:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Alastair&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Azoee|2011-02-28T09:33:00.000Z|Alastair|2011-02-26T14:23:00.000Z"></span>Je ne suis pas un gros contributeur sur cette page, mais AMHA cette liste fait tâche. À transférer sur une page dédiée, avec comme objectif de lister pour chaque journaliste des dates de début et fin de carrière au Monde et les rubriques tenues ? <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Azoee" title="Utilisateur:Azoee">Azoée</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Azoee" title="Discussion utilisateur:Azoee">d</a>) 28 février 2011 à 10:33 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Azoee|2011-02-28T09:33:00.000Z|Alastair|2011-02-26T14:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2011-02-28T09:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Azoee&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bokken|2010-01-02T13:18:00.000Z|Arkanosis|2010-01-02T12:01:00.000Z"></span>Il me semble que cette liste est dénuée d'apport proprement encyclopédique (faute de commentaire sourcé à en faire), et donc ressort de la base de données. À virer, donc. -- <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Bokken" title="Utilisateur:Bokken">Bokken</a> | <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Bokken" title="Discussion utilisateur:Bokken">木刀</a> 2 janvier 2010 à 14:18 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bokken|2010-01-02T13:18:00.000Z|Arkanosis|2010-01-02T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Alastair|2011-02-26T14:23:00.000Z|Bokken|2010-01-02T13:18:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2010-01-02T13:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bokken&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bokken|2010-01-02T13:18:00.000Z|Arkanosis|2010-01-02T12:01:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Alastair|2011-02-26T14:23:00.000Z|Bokken|2010-01-02T13:18:00.000Z"></span>Je suis d'accord avec <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Bokken" title="Utilisateur:Bokken">Bokken</a>. La liste des anciens journalistes ne me paraît pas pertinente non plus. Elle n'apporte pas de compréhension à ce qu'est le journal. --<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Alastair" title="Utilisateur:Alastair">Alastair</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Alastair" title="Discussion utilisateur:Alastair">d</a>) 26 février 2011 à 15:23 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Alastair|2011-02-26T14:23:00.000Z|Bokken|2010-01-02T13:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Azoee|2011-02-28T09:33:00.000Z|Alastair|2011-02-26T14:23:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2011-02-26T14:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Alastair&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Azoee|2011-02-28T09:33:00.000Z|Alastair|2011-02-26T14:23:00.000Z"></span>Je ne suis pas un gros contributeur sur cette page, mais AMHA cette liste fait tâche. À transférer sur une page dédiée, avec comme objectif de lister pour chaque journaliste des dates de début et fin de carrière au Monde et les rubriques tenues ? <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Azoee" title="Utilisateur:Azoee">Azoée</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Azoee" title="Discussion utilisateur:Azoee">d</a>) 28 février 2011 à 10:33 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Azoee|2011-02-28T09:33:00.000Z|Alastair|2011-02-26T14:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2011-02-28T09:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Azoee&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
 <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Cette tache est je pense impossible... Il faudrait à la limite une liste des chefs de rubrique actualisée régulièrement (parce que dans la presse, il y a du turn over).... Et je pense qu'une liste des célèbres anciens du Monde serait plus pertinent</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Azoee|2011-02-28T09:33:00.000Z|Alastair|2011-02-26T14:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Alastair|2011-02-26T14:23:00.000Z|Bokken|2010-01-02T13:18:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DocteurCosmos|2010-07-07T14:56:00.000Z|Propriétaire(s)_en_juillet_2010_?"></span>J'ai cru bon de mettre à jour l'infobox suite au récent rachat du <i>Monde</i> par le trio <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Berg%C3%A9" title="Pierre Bergé">Bergé</a>-<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthieu_Pigasse" title="Matthieu Pigasse">Pigasse</a>-<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xavier_Niel" title="Xavier Niel">Niel</a>. Ai-je bien fait ? Que devient <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Vie-Le_Monde" class="mw-redirect" title="La Vie-Le Monde">La Vie-Le Monde</a> dans tout ça ? <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:DocteurCosmos" title="Utilisateur:DocteurCosmos">DocteurCosmos</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:DocteurCosmos" title="Discussion utilisateur:DocteurCosmos">d</a>) 7 juillet 2010 à 16:56 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DocteurCosmos|2010-07-07T14:56:00.000Z|Propri\u00e9taire(s)_en_juillet_2010_?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|LPLT|2010-07-07T14:58:00.000Z|DocteurCosmos|2010-07-07T14:56:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2010-07-07T14:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DocteurCosmos&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DocteurCosmos|2010-07-07T14:56:00.000Z|Propriétaire(s)_en_juillet_2010_?"></span>J'ai cru bon de mettre à jour l'infobox suite au récent rachat du <i>Monde</i> par le trio <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Berg%C3%A9" title="Pierre Bergé">Bergé</a>-<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthieu_Pigasse" title="Matthieu Pigasse">Pigasse</a>-<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xavier_Niel" title="Xavier Niel">Niel</a>. Ai-je bien fait ? Que devient <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Vie-Le_Monde" class="mw-redirect" title="La Vie-Le Monde">La Vie-Le Monde</a> dans tout ça ? <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:DocteurCosmos" title="Utilisateur:DocteurCosmos">DocteurCosmos</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:DocteurCosmos" title="Discussion utilisateur:DocteurCosmos">d</a>) 7 juillet 2010 à 16:56 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DocteurCosmos|2010-07-07T14:56:00.000Z|Propri\u00e9taire(s)_en_juillet_2010_?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|LPLT|2010-07-07T14:58:00.000Z|DocteurCosmos|2010-07-07T14:56:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2010-07-07T14:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DocteurCosmos&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|LPLT|2010-07-07T14:58:00.000Z|DocteurCosmos|2010-07-07T14:56:00.000Z"></span>Est-ce entériné d'un point de vue légal ? Je pense que tout cela n'en est encore qu'au stade des dossiers--<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:LPLT" title="Utilisateur:LPLT">LPLT</a> <sup><small> [<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:LPLT" title="Discussion utilisateur:LPLT">discu</a>]</small></sup> 7 juillet 2010 à 16:58 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|LPLT|2010-07-07T14:58:00.000Z|DocteurCosmos|2010-07-07T14:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DocteurCosmos|2010-07-08T13:52:00.000Z|LPLT|2010-07-07T14:58:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2010-07-07T14:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;LPLT&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<span data-mw-comment-end="c|LPLT|2010-07-07T14:58:00.000Z|DocteurCosmos|2010-07-07T14:56:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DocteurCosmos|2010-07-08T13:52:00.000Z|LPLT|2010-07-07T14:58:00.000Z"></span>Après recherche, il s'avère que le trio devient actionnaire majoritaire de <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Vie-Le_Monde" class="mw-redirect" title="La Vie-Le Monde">La Vie-Le Monde</a> et que les négociations en cours ne devraient aboutir qu'en septembre. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:DocteurCosmos" title="Utilisateur:DocteurCosmos">DocteurCosmos</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:DocteurCosmos" title="Discussion utilisateur:DocteurCosmos">d</a>) 8 juillet 2010 à 15:52 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DocteurCosmos|2010-07-08T13:52:00.000Z|LPLT|2010-07-07T14:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|LPLT|2010-07-08T14:11:00.000Z|DocteurCosmos|2010-07-08T13:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2010-07-08T13:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DocteurCosmos&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<span data-mw-comment-end="c|DocteurCosmos|2010-07-08T13:52:00.000Z|LPLT|2010-07-07T14:58:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|LPLT|2010-07-08T14:11:00.000Z|DocteurCosmos|2010-07-08T13:52:00.000Z"></span>Oui j'ai oublié d'y revenir, la proposition est à l'étude pour un accord définitif devant etre trouvé avantle 30 sept (3 mois après la cloture des candidatures). En conséquence il est préférable de revenir à la version antérieure jusque là. Rien n'est signé.--<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:LPLT" title="Utilisateur:LPLT">LPLT</a> <sup><small> [<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:LPLT" title="Discussion utilisateur:LPLT">discu</a>]</small></sup> 8 juillet 2010 à 16:11 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|LPLT|2010-07-08T14:11:00.000Z|DocteurCosmos|2010-07-08T13:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2010-07-08T14:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;LPLT&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|LPLT|2010-07-08T14:11:00.000Z|DocteurCosmos|2010-07-08T13:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|LPLT|2010-07-07T14:58:00.000Z|DocteurCosmos|2010-07-07T14:56:00.000Z"></span>Est-ce entériné d'un point de vue légal ? Je pense que tout cela n'en est encore qu'au stade des dossiers--<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:LPLT" title="Utilisateur:LPLT">LPLT</a> <sup><small> [<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:LPLT" title="Discussion utilisateur:LPLT">discu</a>]</small></sup> 7 juillet 2010 à 16:58 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|LPLT|2010-07-07T14:58:00.000Z|DocteurCosmos|2010-07-07T14:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|DocteurCosmos|2010-07-08T13:52:00.000Z|LPLT|2010-07-07T14:58:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2010-07-07T14:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;LPLT&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<span data-mw-comment-end="c|LPLT|2010-07-07T14:58:00.000Z|DocteurCosmos|2010-07-07T14:56:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|DocteurCosmos|2010-07-08T13:52:00.000Z|LPLT|2010-07-07T14:58:00.000Z"></span>Après recherche, il s'avère que le trio devient actionnaire majoritaire de <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Vie-Le_Monde" class="mw-redirect" title="La Vie-Le Monde">La Vie-Le Monde</a> et que les négociations en cours ne devraient aboutir qu'en septembre. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:DocteurCosmos" title="Utilisateur:DocteurCosmos">DocteurCosmos</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:DocteurCosmos" title="Discussion utilisateur:DocteurCosmos">d</a>) 8 juillet 2010 à 15:52 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|DocteurCosmos|2010-07-08T13:52:00.000Z|LPLT|2010-07-07T14:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|LPLT|2010-07-08T14:11:00.000Z|DocteurCosmos|2010-07-08T13:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2010-07-08T13:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;DocteurCosmos&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<span data-mw-comment-end="c|DocteurCosmos|2010-07-08T13:52:00.000Z|LPLT|2010-07-07T14:58:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|LPLT|2010-07-08T14:11:00.000Z|DocteurCosmos|2010-07-08T13:52:00.000Z"></span>Oui j'ai oublié d'y revenir, la proposition est à l'étude pour un accord définitif devant etre trouvé avantle 30 sept (3 mois après la cloture des candidatures). En conséquence il est préférable de revenir à la version antérieure jusque là. Rien n'est signé.--<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:LPLT" title="Utilisateur:LPLT">LPLT</a> <sup><small> [<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:LPLT" title="Discussion utilisateur:LPLT">discu</a>]</small></sup> 8 juillet 2010 à 16:11 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|LPLT|2010-07-08T14:11:00.000Z|DocteurCosmos|2010-07-08T13:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2010-07-08T14:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;LPLT&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|LPLT|2010-07-08T14:11:00.000Z|DocteurCosmos|2010-07-08T13:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Polofrfr|2010-12-16T21:56:00.000Z|Propriétaire(s)_en_juillet_2010_?"></span>La <i>recapitalisation</i> de 2010 et tous les changements de <i>têtes</i>, inhérents, montrent bien que le journal n'est plus indépendant... ou, en tout cas, nettement moins qu'il y a 50 ou même 30 ans.
 </p><p>Comment résumer/traduire ça, simplement et clairement - notamment dans l'intro - sans 'leurrer' le lecteur lambda ?
 </p><p>--<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Polofrfr" title="Utilisateur:Polofrfr">Polofrfr</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Polofrfr" title="Discussion utilisateur:Polofrfr">d</a>) 16 décembre 2010 à 22:56 (CET)
->> En mentionnant cette recapitalisation, qui sont les nouveaux propriétaires . Au lecteur de se faire son opinion sur l'indépendance du journal<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Polofrfr|2010-12-16T21:56:00.000Z|Propri\u00e9taire(s)_en_juillet_2010_?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2010-12-16T21:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Polofrfr&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+>> En mentionnant cette recapitalisation, qui sont les nouveaux propriétaires . Au lecteur de se faire son opinion sur l'indépendance du journal<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Polofrfr|2010-12-16T21:56:00.000Z|Propri\u00e9taire(s)_en_juillet_2010_?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2010-12-16T21:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Polofrfr&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Azoee|2011-04-07T18:56:00.000Z|diffusion"></span>Juste pour signaler des incohérences au niveau des chiffres :
 dans cet article on a un tableau de 1999 à 2009, de 1999 à 2005 il correspond à un autre tableau dans l'article <a class="external free" href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presse_en_France">http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presse_en_France</a>, mais à partir de 2006 grosse divergence : on passe de 350 039 à 316 851 ou 358 655 c'est selon, là où ça devient ridicule c'est qu'en suivant la source indiquée par un des tableaux (<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.ojd.com/adherent/3147">http://www.ojd.com/adherent/3147</a>) apparemment ça serait 354 316.
 </p><p>Ou alors il y a des confusions entre les diffusions (payée/france payée) auquel cas il faudrait peut-être se décider pour savoir lequel doit être retenu.
 </p>
-<dl><dd>Ça veut dire quoi France payée et payée, la légende ne l’indique pas ? <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Azoee" title="Utilisateur:Azoee">Azoée</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Azoee" title="Discussion utilisateur:Azoee">d</a>) 7 avril 2011 à 20:56 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Azoee|2011-04-07T18:56:00.000Z|diffusion&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Bibliorock|2011-04-08T15:52:00.000Z|Azoee|2011-04-07T18:56:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2011-04-07T18:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Azoee&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Azoee|2011-04-07T18:56:00.000Z|diffusion"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bibliorock|2011-04-08T15:52:00.000Z|Azoee|2011-04-07T18:56:00.000Z"></span>y a (tjrs eu) un certains nombre d'ex. gratuits, suffisant pour que l'OJD distingue entre diffusion payée ou non--<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Bibliorock" title="Utilisateur:Bibliorock">Bibliorock</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Bibliorock" title="Discussion utilisateur:Bibliorock">d</a>) 8 avril 2011 à 17:52 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bibliorock|2011-04-08T15:52:00.000Z|Azoee|2011-04-07T18:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Azoee|2011-04-09T09:46:00.000Z|Bibliorock|2011-04-08T15:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2011-04-08T15:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bibliorock&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bibliorock|2011-04-08T15:52:00.000Z|Azoee|2011-04-07T18:56:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Azoee|2011-04-09T09:46:00.000Z|Bibliorock|2011-04-08T15:52:00.000Z"></span>Et la colonne "payée", c'est la diffusion gratuite ? ?? <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Azoee" title="Utilisateur:Azoee">Azoée</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Azoee" title="Discussion utilisateur:Azoee">d</a>) 9 avril 2011 à 11:46 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Azoee|2011-04-09T09:46:00.000Z|Bibliorock|2011-04-08T15:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2011-04-09T09:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Azoee&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Azoee|2011-04-09T09:46:00.000Z|Bibliorock|2011-04-08T15:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd>Ça veut dire quoi France payée et payée, la légende ne l’indique pas ? <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Azoee" title="Utilisateur:Azoee">Azoée</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Azoee" title="Discussion utilisateur:Azoee">d</a>) 7 avril 2011 à 20:56 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Azoee|2011-04-07T18:56:00.000Z|diffusion&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Bibliorock|2011-04-08T15:52:00.000Z|Azoee|2011-04-07T18:56:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2011-04-07T18:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Azoee&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Azoee|2011-04-07T18:56:00.000Z|diffusion"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bibliorock|2011-04-08T15:52:00.000Z|Azoee|2011-04-07T18:56:00.000Z"></span>y a (tjrs eu) un certains nombre d'ex. gratuits, suffisant pour que l'OJD distingue entre diffusion payée ou non--<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Bibliorock" title="Utilisateur:Bibliorock">Bibliorock</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Bibliorock" title="Discussion utilisateur:Bibliorock">d</a>) 8 avril 2011 à 17:52 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bibliorock|2011-04-08T15:52:00.000Z|Azoee|2011-04-07T18:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Azoee|2011-04-09T09:46:00.000Z|Bibliorock|2011-04-08T15:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2011-04-08T15:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bibliorock&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bibliorock|2011-04-08T15:52:00.000Z|Azoee|2011-04-07T18:56:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Azoee|2011-04-09T09:46:00.000Z|Bibliorock|2011-04-08T15:52:00.000Z"></span>Et la colonne "payée", c'est la diffusion gratuite ? ?? <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Azoee" title="Utilisateur:Azoee">Azoée</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Azoee" title="Discussion utilisateur:Azoee">d</a>) 9 avril 2011 à 11:46 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Azoee|2011-04-09T09:46:00.000Z|Bibliorock|2011-04-08T15:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2011-04-09T09:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Azoee&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Azoee|2011-04-09T09:46:00.000Z|Bibliorock|2011-04-08T15:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id="Herv.C3.A9_Morin_journaliste_.3F"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Hervé_Morin_journaliste_?" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Herv\u00e9_Morin_journaliste_?|2012-03-11T09:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Jules78120|2012-03-11T09:51:00.000Z|Herv\u00e9_Morin_journaliste_?&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Hervé_Morin_journaliste_?|2012-03-11T09:51:00.000Z"></span>Hervé Morin journaliste ?<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Hervé_Morin_journaliste_?|2012-03-11T09:51:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Jules78120|2012-03-11T09:51:00.000Z|Hervé_Morin_journaliste_?"></span>Quelle ne fut pas ma surprise lorsque j'ai vue que Hervé Morin fait partie des journalistes actuel du journal Le Monde, j'aurais aimé avoir confirmation de cette information, de mon coté j'ai cherché, et je n'ai rien trouvé ... Donc si personne à de réponse, il faudrais l'enlever de la liste.
 </p>
 <dl><dd>Bonjour,</dd>
-<dd>En fait, ce n'est pas le même Hervé Morin : <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.franceinter.fr/personne-herve-morin-0">[2]</a>. Cdlt, — <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Jules78120" class="mw-redirect" title="Utilisateur:Jules78120"><b><span style="color:#80D000">Jules</span></b></a>  <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Jules78120" class="mw-redirect" title="Discussion utilisateur:Jules78120"><span style="color:Gold"> [Discuter] </span></a> 11 mars 2012 à 10:51 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Jules78120|2012-03-11T09:51:00.000Z|Herv\u00e9_Morin_journaliste_?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2012-03-11T09:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Jules78120&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Jules78120|2012-03-11T09:51:00.000Z|Hervé_Morin_journaliste_?"></span></dd></dl>
+<dd>En fait, ce n'est pas le même Hervé Morin : <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.franceinter.fr/personne-herve-morin-0">[2]</a>. Cdlt, — <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Jules78120" class="mw-redirect" title="Utilisateur:Jules78120"><b><span style="color:#80D000">Jules</span></b></a>  <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Jules78120" class="mw-redirect" title="Discussion utilisateur:Jules78120"><span style="color:Gold"> [Discuter] </span></a> 11 mars 2012 à 10:51 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Jules78120|2012-03-11T09:51:00.000Z|Herv\u00e9_Morin_journaliste_?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2012-03-11T09:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Jules78120&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Jules78120|2012-03-11T09:51:00.000Z|Hervé_Morin_journaliste_?"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Khmers_rouges" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Khmers_rouges|2014-05-16T21:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Pcouderc|2014-05-16T21:30:00.000Z|Khmers_rouges&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Khmers_rouges|2014-05-16T21:30:00.000Z"></span>Khmers rouges<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Khmers_rouges|2014-05-16T21:30:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Pcouderc|2014-05-16T21:30:00.000Z|Khmers_rouges"></span>Le Monde n'a sûrement pas titré « Phnom Penh libérée » le 17 avril 1975. On peut voir l'emission de ce jour ici: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.fonjallaz.net/Communisme/Cambodge/GC-ONU/17-avril-1975.html">http://www.fonjallaz.net/Communisme/Cambodge/GC-ONU/17-avril-1975.html</a> - et les titres des articles sont beaucoup plus neutres. Même si quelques-uns des auteurs ont écrit dans un ton très positive du mouvement des Khmers rouges et de leur « révolution », ce formulation rend surtout une fausse image du journal à cette époque. Donc je vais l'écarter. Veuillez excuser mon français, je suis allemand ;)
 18 novembre 2012 à 02:14 (CET)
-</p><p>D'accord, la date est erronée, mais je l'ai vu, Le Monde a bien titré « Phnom Penh libérée » en avril, mais peut-être pas le 17. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Pcouderc" title="Utilisateur:Pcouderc">Pcouderc</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Pcouderc" title="Discussion utilisateur:Pcouderc">discuter</a>) 16 mai 2014 à 23:30 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pcouderc|2014-05-16T21:30:00.000Z|Khmers_rouges&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2014-05-16T21:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pcouderc&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+</p><p>D'accord, la date est erronée, mais je l'ai vu, Le Monde a bien titré « Phnom Penh libérée » en avril, mais peut-être pas le 17. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Pcouderc" title="Utilisateur:Pcouderc">Pcouderc</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Pcouderc" title="Discussion utilisateur:Pcouderc">discuter</a>) 16 mai 2014 à 23:30 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pcouderc|2014-05-16T21:30:00.000Z|Khmers_rouges&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2014-05-16T21:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pcouderc&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Chronologie" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Chronologie|2013-03-03T21:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|LPLT|2013-03-03T21:02:00.000Z|Chronologie&quot;,&quot;c|Quadrige|2013-03-27T23:28:00.000Z|Chronologie&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Chronologie|2013-03-03T21:02:00.000Z"></span>Chronologie<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Chronologie|2013-03-03T21:02:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|LPLT|2013-03-03T21:02:00.000Z|Chronologie"></span>Il n'y a pas de règles noir sur blanc en la matière, mais il est assez évident que les listes à puce, et autres chronologies ne répondent pas aux standards encyclopédiques, et sont relativement déconseillées sur WP (faut que je retrouve l'indication précise). Les articles labellisés (AdQ et BA) n'en n'ont pas, car le contenu se doit d'être rédigé (phrase), organisé, synthétisé (séparation de l'anecdotique de l'essentiel), toute chose qui répond plus d'un travail encyclopédique. D'où l'incitation vers un recyclage de cette section <i>chronologie</i>.-- <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:LPLT" title="Utilisateur:LPLT">LPLT</a> <sup><small> [<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:LPLT" title="Discussion utilisateur:LPLT">discu</a>]</small></sup> 3 mars 2013 à 22:02 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|LPLT|2013-03-03T21:02:00.000Z|Chronologie&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|LPLT|2013-03-03T21:07:00.000Z|LPLT|2013-03-03T21:02:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2013-03-03T21:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;LPLT&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|LPLT|2013-03-03T21:02:00.000Z|Chronologie"></span>Il n'y a pas de règles noir sur blanc en la matière, mais il est assez évident que les listes à puce, et autres chronologies ne répondent pas aux standards encyclopédiques, et sont relativement déconseillées sur WP (faut que je retrouve l'indication précise). Les articles labellisés (AdQ et BA) n'en n'ont pas, car le contenu se doit d'être rédigé (phrase), organisé, synthétisé (séparation de l'anecdotique de l'essentiel), toute chose qui répond plus d'un travail encyclopédique. D'où l'incitation vers un recyclage de cette section <i>chronologie</i>.-- <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:LPLT" title="Utilisateur:LPLT">LPLT</a> <sup><small> [<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:LPLT" title="Discussion utilisateur:LPLT">discu</a>]</small></sup> 3 mars 2013 à 22:02 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|LPLT|2013-03-03T21:02:00.000Z|Chronologie&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|LPLT|2013-03-03T21:07:00.000Z|LPLT|2013-03-03T21:02:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2013-03-03T21:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;LPLT&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|LPLT|2013-03-03T21:07:00.000Z|LPLT|2013-03-03T21:02:00.000Z"></span>D'où le <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:%C3%80_d%C3%A9lister" title="Modèle:À délister">Modèle:À délister</a>.-- <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:LPLT" title="Utilisateur:LPLT">LPLT</a> <sup><small> [<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:LPLT" title="Discussion utilisateur:LPLT">discu</a>]</small></sup> 3 mars 2013 à 22:07 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|LPLT|2013-03-03T21:07:00.000Z|LPLT|2013-03-03T21:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Jules78120|2013-03-03T21:08:00.000Z|LPLT|2013-03-03T21:07:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2013-03-03T21:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;LPLT&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<span data-mw-comment-end="c|LPLT|2013-03-03T21:07:00.000Z|LPLT|2013-03-03T21:02:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Jules78120|2013-03-03T21:08:00.000Z|LPLT|2013-03-03T21:07:00.000Z"></span>Je plussoie <span class="smiley"><a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichier:Face-wink.svg" class="image" title="Clin d'œil"><img alt="Clin d'œil" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Face-wink.svg/20px-Face-wink.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Face-wink.svg/30px-Face-wink.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Face-wink.svg/40px-Face-wink.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span>. — <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Jules78120" class="mw-redirect" title="Utilisateur:Jules78120"><b><span style="color:Gold">Jules</span></b></a>  <strong><sup><small style="border-bottom:1px solid #80D000;"><a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Jules78120" class="mw-redirect" title="Discussion utilisateur:Jules78120"><span style="color:#80D000"><i>Discuter</i></span></a></small></sup></strong> 3 mars 2013 à 22:08 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Jules78120|2013-03-03T21:08:00.000Z|LPLT|2013-03-03T21:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Jmex|2013-03-04T06:32:00.000Z|Jules78120|2013-03-03T21:08:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2013-03-03T21:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Jules78120&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Jules78120|2013-03-03T21:08:00.000Z|LPLT|2013-03-03T21:07:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Jmex|2013-03-04T06:32:00.000Z|Jules78120|2013-03-03T21:08:00.000Z"></span>Je moinssoie... Certes, LPLT a raison dans l'absolu, mais ici, c'est une chronologie rappelant les grandes dates du journal, alors comment faire autrement ? Comment rédiger la même chose "avec des phrases" en reprenant les dates à chaque fois ? Ce serait il me semble une infâme bouillie. Mais bon, si quelqu'un veut s'y coller. Je ne vois toutefois pas en quoi cela constituerait une quelconque amélioration concernant ce chapitre particulier <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Jmex" title="Utilisateur:Jmex">Jmex</a>  <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Jmex" title="Discussion utilisateur:Jmex">(♫)</a> 4 mars 2013 à 07:32 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Jmex|2013-03-04T06:32:00.000Z|Jules78120|2013-03-03T21:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Azoee|2013-03-04T13:11:00.000Z|Jmex|2013-03-04T06:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2013-03-04T06:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Jmex&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Jmex|2013-03-04T06:32:00.000Z|Jules78120|2013-03-03T21:08:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Azoee|2013-03-04T13:11:00.000Z|Jmex|2013-03-04T06:32:00.000Z"></span>Je moinssoie également : dans le cadre d’une chronologie, la présentation la plus synthétique et la plus organisée est celle de la liste à puce. D’ailleurs voir les articles <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/1" title="1">1</a>, <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/2" title="2">2</a>, <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/3" title="3">3</a>, <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/4" title="4">4</a>... <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/1046" title="1046">1046</a> jusqu’à nos jours. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Azoee" title="Utilisateur:Azoee">Azoée</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Azoee" title="Discussion utilisateur:Azoee">d</a>) 4 mars 2013 à 14:11 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Azoee|2013-03-04T13:11:00.000Z|Jmex|2013-03-04T06:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|LPLT|2013-03-04T16:38:00.000Z|Azoee|2013-03-04T13:11:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2013-03-04T13:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Azoee&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Azoee|2013-03-04T13:11:00.000Z|Jmex|2013-03-04T06:32:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|LPLT|2013-03-04T16:38:00.000Z|Azoee|2013-03-04T13:11:00.000Z"></span>Certainement pas : faire des phrases (qui je le rappelle = sujet + verbe + complément) et contextualiser est un impératif encyclopédique évident. Quant à comparer cela avec une page sur des dates... il n'y a aucune pertinence dans le parallèle. Les pages/section historiques des articles labellisés ne sont pas une « infâme bouillie » ; drôle de perspective et de vision encyclopédique.-- <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:LPLT" title="Utilisateur:LPLT">LPLT</a> <sup><small> [<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:LPLT" title="Discussion utilisateur:LPLT">discu</a>]</small></sup> 4 mars 2013 à 17:38 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|LPLT|2013-03-04T16:38:00.000Z|Azoee|2013-03-04T13:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2013-03-04T16:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;LPLT&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|LPLT|2013-03-04T16:38:00.000Z|Azoee|2013-03-04T13:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Quadrige|2013-03-27T23:28:00.000Z|Chronologie"></span>Bonsoir à tous, je me lance dans la réécriture de ladite liste à puce. N'hésitez pas à donner un coup de main, notamment pour la recontextualisation. --<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Quadrige" title="Utilisateur:Quadrige">Quadrige</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Quadrige" title="Discussion utilisateur:Quadrige">d</a>) 28 mars 2013 à 00:28 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Quadrige|2013-03-27T23:28:00.000Z|Chronologie&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2013-03-27T23:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Quadrige&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|LPLT|2013-03-03T21:07:00.000Z|LPLT|2013-03-03T21:02:00.000Z"></span>D'où le <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:%C3%80_d%C3%A9lister" title="Modèle:À délister">Modèle:À délister</a>.-- <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:LPLT" title="Utilisateur:LPLT">LPLT</a> <sup><small> [<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:LPLT" title="Discussion utilisateur:LPLT">discu</a>]</small></sup> 3 mars 2013 à 22:07 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|LPLT|2013-03-03T21:07:00.000Z|LPLT|2013-03-03T21:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Jules78120|2013-03-03T21:08:00.000Z|LPLT|2013-03-03T21:07:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2013-03-03T21:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;LPLT&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<span data-mw-comment-end="c|LPLT|2013-03-03T21:07:00.000Z|LPLT|2013-03-03T21:02:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Jules78120|2013-03-03T21:08:00.000Z|LPLT|2013-03-03T21:07:00.000Z"></span>Je plussoie <span class="smiley"><a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichier:Face-wink.svg" class="image" title="Clin d'œil"><img alt="Clin d'œil" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Face-wink.svg/20px-Face-wink.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Face-wink.svg/30px-Face-wink.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Face-wink.svg/40px-Face-wink.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span>. — <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Jules78120" class="mw-redirect" title="Utilisateur:Jules78120"><b><span style="color:Gold">Jules</span></b></a>  <strong><sup><small style="border-bottom:1px solid #80D000;"><a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Jules78120" class="mw-redirect" title="Discussion utilisateur:Jules78120"><span style="color:#80D000"><i>Discuter</i></span></a></small></sup></strong> 3 mars 2013 à 22:08 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Jules78120|2013-03-03T21:08:00.000Z|LPLT|2013-03-03T21:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Jmex|2013-03-04T06:32:00.000Z|Jules78120|2013-03-03T21:08:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2013-03-03T21:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Jules78120&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Jules78120|2013-03-03T21:08:00.000Z|LPLT|2013-03-03T21:07:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Jmex|2013-03-04T06:32:00.000Z|Jules78120|2013-03-03T21:08:00.000Z"></span>Je moinssoie... Certes, LPLT a raison dans l'absolu, mais ici, c'est une chronologie rappelant les grandes dates du journal, alors comment faire autrement ? Comment rédiger la même chose "avec des phrases" en reprenant les dates à chaque fois ? Ce serait il me semble une infâme bouillie. Mais bon, si quelqu'un veut s'y coller. Je ne vois toutefois pas en quoi cela constituerait une quelconque amélioration concernant ce chapitre particulier <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Jmex" title="Utilisateur:Jmex">Jmex</a>  <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Jmex" title="Discussion utilisateur:Jmex">(♫)</a> 4 mars 2013 à 07:32 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Jmex|2013-03-04T06:32:00.000Z|Jules78120|2013-03-03T21:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Azoee|2013-03-04T13:11:00.000Z|Jmex|2013-03-04T06:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2013-03-04T06:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Jmex&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Jmex|2013-03-04T06:32:00.000Z|Jules78120|2013-03-03T21:08:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Azoee|2013-03-04T13:11:00.000Z|Jmex|2013-03-04T06:32:00.000Z"></span>Je moinssoie également : dans le cadre d’une chronologie, la présentation la plus synthétique et la plus organisée est celle de la liste à puce. D’ailleurs voir les articles <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/1" title="1">1</a>, <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/2" title="2">2</a>, <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/3" title="3">3</a>, <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/4" title="4">4</a>... <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/1046" title="1046">1046</a> jusqu’à nos jours. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Azoee" title="Utilisateur:Azoee">Azoée</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Azoee" title="Discussion utilisateur:Azoee">d</a>) 4 mars 2013 à 14:11 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Azoee|2013-03-04T13:11:00.000Z|Jmex|2013-03-04T06:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|LPLT|2013-03-04T16:38:00.000Z|Azoee|2013-03-04T13:11:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2013-03-04T13:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Azoee&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Azoee|2013-03-04T13:11:00.000Z|Jmex|2013-03-04T06:32:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|LPLT|2013-03-04T16:38:00.000Z|Azoee|2013-03-04T13:11:00.000Z"></span>Certainement pas : faire des phrases (qui je le rappelle = sujet + verbe + complément) et contextualiser est un impératif encyclopédique évident. Quant à comparer cela avec une page sur des dates... il n'y a aucune pertinence dans le parallèle. Les pages/section historiques des articles labellisés ne sont pas une « infâme bouillie » ; drôle de perspective et de vision encyclopédique.-- <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:LPLT" title="Utilisateur:LPLT">LPLT</a> <sup><small> [<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:LPLT" title="Discussion utilisateur:LPLT">discu</a>]</small></sup> 4 mars 2013 à 17:38 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|LPLT|2013-03-04T16:38:00.000Z|Azoee|2013-03-04T13:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2013-03-04T16:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;LPLT&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|LPLT|2013-03-04T16:38:00.000Z|Azoee|2013-03-04T13:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Quadrige|2013-03-27T23:28:00.000Z|Chronologie"></span>Bonsoir à tous, je me lance dans la réécriture de ladite liste à puce. N'hésitez pas à donner un coup de main, notamment pour la recontextualisation. --<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Quadrige" title="Utilisateur:Quadrige">Quadrige</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Quadrige" title="Discussion utilisateur:Quadrige">d</a>) 28 mars 2013 à 00:28 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Quadrige|2013-03-27T23:28:00.000Z|Chronologie&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2013-03-27T23:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Quadrige&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
 <span data-mw-comment-end="c|Quadrige|2013-03-27T23:28:00.000Z|Chronologie"></span></p>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Liste_des_jourrnalistes_du_Monde" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Liste_des_jourrnalistes_du_Monde|2013-03-28T09:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|CaptainHaddock|2013-03-28T09:28:00.000Z|Liste_des_jourrnalistes_du_Monde&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Liste_des_jourrnalistes_du_Monde|2013-03-28T09:28:00.000Z"></span>Liste des jourrnalistes du Monde<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Liste_des_jourrnalistes_du_Monde|2013-03-28T09:28:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|CaptainHaddock|2013-03-28T09:28:00.000Z|Liste_des_jourrnalistes_du_Monde"></span>Bonjour,
-</p><p>Ne pourrait-on pas deplacer ces deux listes (<span class="need_ref" title="Ce passage devrait préciser au minimum la décennie ou l'année." style="cursor:help;">nouveaux</span><sup class="need_ref_tag" style="padding-left:2px;"><a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aide:Quand" title="Aide:Quand">[Quand ?]</a></sup> et anciens), qui n'ont pas d'interret dans cet article et le surcharge inutilement, vers un nouvel article <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_jourrnalistes_du_Monde" class="mw-redirect" title="Liste des jourrnalistes du Monde">Liste des jourrnalistes du Monde</a> qui d'ailleurs pourrait etre l'<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:Article_principal" title="Modèle:Article principal">{{article principal}}</a> de <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cat%C3%A9gorie:Journaliste_du_Monde&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Catégorie:Journaliste du Monde (page inexistante)">Catégorie:Journaliste du Monde</a>. Je pourrais le faire si vous voulez. Bonne journée. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:CaptainHaddock" title="Utilisateur:CaptainHaddock">CaptainHaddock</a> <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:CaptainHaddock" title="Discussion utilisateur:CaptainHaddock"><sup><i>BlaBla</i></sup></a> 28 mars 2013 à 10:28 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|CaptainHaddock|2013-03-28T09:28:00.000Z|Liste_des_jourrnalistes_du_Monde&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Quadrige|2013-03-28T10:14:00.000Z|CaptainHaddock|2013-03-28T09:28:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2013-03-28T09:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;CaptainHaddock&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+</p><p>Ne pourrait-on pas deplacer ces deux listes (<span class="need_ref" title="Ce passage devrait préciser au minimum la décennie ou l'année." style="cursor:help;">nouveaux</span><sup class="need_ref_tag" style="padding-left:2px;"><a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aide:Quand" title="Aide:Quand">[Quand ?]</a></sup> et anciens), qui n'ont pas d'interret dans cet article et le surcharge inutilement, vers un nouvel article <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_jourrnalistes_du_Monde" class="mw-redirect" title="Liste des jourrnalistes du Monde">Liste des jourrnalistes du Monde</a> qui d'ailleurs pourrait etre l'<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:Article_principal" title="Modèle:Article principal">{{article principal}}</a> de <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cat%C3%A9gorie:Journaliste_du_Monde&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Catégorie:Journaliste du Monde (page inexistante)">Catégorie:Journaliste du Monde</a>. Je pourrais le faire si vous voulez. Bonne journée. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:CaptainHaddock" title="Utilisateur:CaptainHaddock">CaptainHaddock</a> <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:CaptainHaddock" title="Discussion utilisateur:CaptainHaddock"><sup><i>BlaBla</i></sup></a> 28 mars 2013 à 10:28 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|CaptainHaddock|2013-03-28T09:28:00.000Z|Liste_des_jourrnalistes_du_Monde&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Quadrige|2013-03-28T10:14:00.000Z|CaptainHaddock|2013-03-28T09:28:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2013-03-28T09:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;CaptainHaddock&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Quadrige|2013-03-28T10:14:00.000Z|CaptainHaddock|2013-03-28T09:28:00.000Z"></span>Très bonne idée. Je le fais maintenant, ça allégera l'article. --<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Quadrige" title="Utilisateur:Quadrige">Quadrige</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Quadrige" title="Discussion utilisateur:Quadrige">d</a>) 28 mars 2013 à 11:14 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Quadrige|2013-03-28T10:14:00.000Z|CaptainHaddock|2013-03-28T09:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2013-03-28T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Quadrige&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Quadrige|2013-03-28T10:14:00.000Z|CaptainHaddock|2013-03-28T09:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Quadrige|2013-03-28T10:14:00.000Z|CaptainHaddock|2013-03-28T09:28:00.000Z"></span>Très bonne idée. Je le fais maintenant, ça allégera l'article. --<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Quadrige" title="Utilisateur:Quadrige">Quadrige</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Quadrige" title="Discussion utilisateur:Quadrige">d</a>) 28 mars 2013 à 11:14 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Quadrige|2013-03-28T10:14:00.000Z|CaptainHaddock|2013-03-28T09:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2013-03-28T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Quadrige&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Quadrige|2013-03-28T10:14:00.000Z|CaptainHaddock|2013-03-28T09:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
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 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Laurent Verset|2013-11-14T23:19:00.000Z|Explication_à_la_suite_de_3RR_à_propos_de_l'intro"></span>S'agissant de la référence apportée. Premièrement elle n'est pas nouvelle, elle apparaît déjà dans l'article, un doublon a été effectué.
 Deuxièmement, je réitère mon argument, on ne peut pas se baser sur un document émanant du journal pour certifier qu'il la respecte, ça n'est pas une source convenable.
@@ -304,16 +304,16 @@ En effet, le journal n'est pas une personne à part entière, a connu plusieurs
 </p><p>Je souhaite préciser au passage que mon intention est simplement de contribuer à l'amélioration de la qualité de l'article.
 Merci de me montrer en quoi je me trompe si tel est le cas, nul n'est infaillible.
 J'espère que le bandeau disparaîtra vite en tout cas car il ne me semble pas qu'il y ait de désaccord profond :)
---<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Laurent_Verset" title="Utilisateur:Laurent Verset">Laurent Verset</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Laurent_Verset" title="Discussion utilisateur:Laurent Verset">discuter</a>) 15 novembre 2013 à 00:19 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Laurent Verset|2013-11-14T23:19:00.000Z|Explication_\u00e0_la_suite_de_3RR_\u00e0_propos_de_l'intro&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Laurent Verset|2013-11-15T21:13:00.000Z|Laurent Verset|2013-11-14T23:19:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2013-11-14T23:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Laurent Verset&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+--<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Laurent_Verset" title="Utilisateur:Laurent Verset">Laurent Verset</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Laurent_Verset" title="Discussion utilisateur:Laurent Verset">discuter</a>) 15 novembre 2013 à 00:19 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Laurent Verset|2013-11-14T23:19:00.000Z|Explication_\u00e0_la_suite_de_3RR_\u00e0_propos_de_l'intro&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Laurent Verset|2013-11-15T21:13:00.000Z|Laurent Verset|2013-11-14T23:19:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2013-11-14T23:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Laurent Verset&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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 <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Laurent Verset|2013-11-15T21:13:00.000Z|Laurent Verset|2013-11-14T23:19:00.000Z"></span>Bonjour, il est évident qu'une source d'information secondaire est nécessaire. Ce n'est pas la déclaration d'intention qui importe mais la réalité. L'affirmation « Habitué à recouper ses informations » a, de plus, été maintes fois contredite dans les faits (ici un exemple parmi tant d'autres : <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.acrimed.org/article1738.html">Médias culpa (3) : Il faut de tout pour faire <i>Le Monde</i></a> et tient davantage de l'image d'Épinal du journal dit "de référence" qu'autre chose. Cordialement. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Thontep" title="Utilisateur:Thontep">Thontep</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Thontep" title="Discussion utilisateur:Thontep">d</a>) 15 novembre 2013 à 7:49 (CET)
 <dl><dd>La vérification des informations était une démarche indispensable prônée par le créateur du journal, Hubert Beuve-Méry. Je vois difficilement quel genre de source, que l'on pourrait considérer comme impartiale, peut nous confirmer cette donnée.
-<dl><dd>Je ne crois pas que ça soit si difficile que ça à confirmer, je pense qu'il existe des observateurs des médias qui évaluent leur qualité journalistique. Mais je crois que la solution est plus à chercher du côté de l'angle sous lequel les choses sont présentés. Je propose que l'on indique simplement que "La ligne éditoriale du journal prône le respect de principe d'<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89thique" title="Éthique">éthique</a> et de <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%A9ontologie" class="mw-disambig" title="Déontologie">déontologie</a>, en particulier concernant la <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%A9rification_par_les_faits" class="mw-redirect" title="Vérification par les faits">recoupe des informations</a> et la <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protection_des_sources_d%27information_des_journalistes" title="Protection des sources d'information des journalistes">protection des sources d'information des journalistes</a>.", en s'appuyant sur la référence que tu proposes pour la charte. Je note au passage que mes arguments ne semblent pas avoir été réfutés dans ta réponse. --<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Laurent_Verset" title="Utilisateur:Laurent Verset">Laurent Verset</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Laurent_Verset" title="Discussion utilisateur:Laurent Verset">discuter</a>) 15 novembre 2013 à 22:13 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Laurent Verset|2013-11-15T21:13:00.000Z|Laurent Verset|2013-11-14T23:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gyrostat|2013-11-15T20:19:00.000Z|Laurent Verset|2013-11-15T21:13:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2013-11-15T21:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Laurent Verset&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Laurent Verset|2013-11-15T21:13:00.000Z|Laurent Verset|2013-11-14T23:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gyrostat|2013-11-15T20:19:00.000Z|Laurent Verset|2013-11-15T21:13:00.000Z"></span>Thontep, tu nous propose un contre-exemple. Une affaire qui remonte à 2004, ça me semble bien maigre par rapport au nombre d'articles publiés quotidiennement. On pourrait faire un parallèle avec WP : beaucoup critiquent le fait que n'importe qui peut modifier n'importe comment notre encyclopédie, cela veut-il dire que toutes les contributions sont du vandalisme ? De plus, Woodstein nous démontre dans <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Hommes_du_pr%C3%A9sident_(livre)" title="Les Hommes du président (livre)">ce livre</a> (et le <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Hommes_du_pr%C3%A9sident_(film)" title="Les Hommes du président (film)">film qui en est tiré</a>) que la vérification des informations n’empêche pas toujours les erreurs. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Gyrostat" title="Utilisateur:Gyrostat">Gyrostat</a> - <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Gyrostat" title="Discussion utilisateur:Gyrostat">Dit<sup><i>S'Cuté</i></sup></a> 15 novembre 2013 à 21:19 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gyrostat|2013-11-15T20:19:00.000Z|Laurent Verset|2013-11-15T21:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gyrostat|2013-11-15T21:37:00.000Z|Gyrostat|2013-11-15T20:19:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2013-11-15T20:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gyrostat&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gyrostat|2013-11-15T20:19:00.000Z|Laurent Verset|2013-11-15T21:13:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gyrostat|2013-11-15T21:37:00.000Z|Gyrostat|2013-11-15T20:19:00.000Z"></span>D'accord Laurent Verset, ta phrase me semble correcte. Concernant la protection des sources, je ne sais pas trop quoi en penser. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Gyrostat" title="Utilisateur:Gyrostat">Gyrostat</a> - <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Gyrostat" title="Discussion utilisateur:Gyrostat">Dit<sup><i>S'Cuté</i></sup></a> 15 novembre 2013 à 22:37 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gyrostat|2013-11-15T21:37:00.000Z|Gyrostat|2013-11-15T20:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2013-11-15T21:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gyrostat&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gyrostat|2013-11-15T21:37:00.000Z|Gyrostat|2013-11-15T20:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd>Je ne crois pas que ça soit si difficile que ça à confirmer, je pense qu'il existe des observateurs des médias qui évaluent leur qualité journalistique. Mais je crois que la solution est plus à chercher du côté de l'angle sous lequel les choses sont présentés. Je propose que l'on indique simplement que "La ligne éditoriale du journal prône le respect de principe d'<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89thique" title="Éthique">éthique</a> et de <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%A9ontologie" class="mw-disambig" title="Déontologie">déontologie</a>, en particulier concernant la <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%A9rification_par_les_faits" class="mw-redirect" title="Vérification par les faits">recoupe des informations</a> et la <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protection_des_sources_d%27information_des_journalistes" title="Protection des sources d'information des journalistes">protection des sources d'information des journalistes</a>.", en s'appuyant sur la référence que tu proposes pour la charte. Je note au passage que mes arguments ne semblent pas avoir été réfutés dans ta réponse. --<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Laurent_Verset" title="Utilisateur:Laurent Verset">Laurent Verset</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Laurent_Verset" title="Discussion utilisateur:Laurent Verset">discuter</a>) 15 novembre 2013 à 22:13 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Laurent Verset|2013-11-15T21:13:00.000Z|Laurent Verset|2013-11-14T23:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gyrostat|2013-11-15T20:19:00.000Z|Laurent Verset|2013-11-15T21:13:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2013-11-15T21:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Laurent Verset&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Laurent Verset|2013-11-15T21:13:00.000Z|Laurent Verset|2013-11-14T23:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gyrostat|2013-11-15T20:19:00.000Z|Laurent Verset|2013-11-15T21:13:00.000Z"></span>Thontep, tu nous propose un contre-exemple. Une affaire qui remonte à 2004, ça me semble bien maigre par rapport au nombre d'articles publiés quotidiennement. On pourrait faire un parallèle avec WP : beaucoup critiquent le fait que n'importe qui peut modifier n'importe comment notre encyclopédie, cela veut-il dire que toutes les contributions sont du vandalisme ? De plus, Woodstein nous démontre dans <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Hommes_du_pr%C3%A9sident_(livre)" title="Les Hommes du président (livre)">ce livre</a> (et le <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Hommes_du_pr%C3%A9sident_(film)" title="Les Hommes du président (film)">film qui en est tiré</a>) que la vérification des informations n’empêche pas toujours les erreurs. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Gyrostat" title="Utilisateur:Gyrostat">Gyrostat</a> - <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Gyrostat" title="Discussion utilisateur:Gyrostat">Dit<sup><i>S'Cuté</i></sup></a> 15 novembre 2013 à 21:19 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gyrostat|2013-11-15T20:19:00.000Z|Laurent Verset|2013-11-15T21:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gyrostat|2013-11-15T21:37:00.000Z|Gyrostat|2013-11-15T20:19:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2013-11-15T20:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gyrostat&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gyrostat|2013-11-15T20:19:00.000Z|Laurent Verset|2013-11-15T21:13:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gyrostat|2013-11-15T21:37:00.000Z|Gyrostat|2013-11-15T20:19:00.000Z"></span>D'accord Laurent Verset, ta phrase me semble correcte. Concernant la protection des sources, je ne sais pas trop quoi en penser. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Gyrostat" title="Utilisateur:Gyrostat">Gyrostat</a> - <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Gyrostat" title="Discussion utilisateur:Gyrostat">Dit<sup><i>S'Cuté</i></sup></a> 15 novembre 2013 à 22:37 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gyrostat|2013-11-15T21:37:00.000Z|Gyrostat|2013-11-15T20:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2013-11-15T21:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gyrostat&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gyrostat|2013-11-15T21:37:00.000Z|Gyrostat|2013-11-15T20:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h4><span class="mw-headline" id="Recoupe_des_sources_:_2e_passe" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Recoupe_des_sources_:_2e_passe|Explication_\u00e0_la_suite_de_3RR_\u00e0_propos_de_l'intro|2014-10-13T10:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Azoee|2014-10-13T10:11:00.000Z|Recoupe_des_sources_:_2e_passe&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:4,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Recoupe_des_sources_:_2e_passe|Explication_à_la_suite_de_3RR_à_propos_de_l'intro|2014-10-13T10:11:00.000Z"></span>Recoupe des sources : 2e passe<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Recoupe_des_sources_:_2e_passe|Explication_à_la_suite_de_3RR_à_propos_de_l'intro|2014-10-13T10:11:00.000Z"></span></span></h4>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Azoee|2014-10-13T10:11:00.000Z|Recoupe_des_sources_:_2e_passe"></span>L'affaire soulevée par <i>Charlie-Hebdo</i> sur la déclaration de patrimoine de Manuel Valls justifie, à mon sens, la suppression de la phrase bateau sur le recoupement (<i> et non « la recoupe »</i>) des sources.
-</p><p>Dans <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.lemonde.fr/politique/article/2013/04/15/les-patrimoines-des-ministres-consultables-en-ligne_3160219_823448.html">cet article</a> de 2013, <i>Le Monde</i> reprend les informations publiées par les ministres sur leur patrimoine, avec des petits commentaires... alors qu'une simple visite au cadastre a permis à <i>Charlie-Hebdo</i> d'émettre de sérieux doutes sur l'honnêteté du ministre (cela croisé avec un simple calcul sur ses revenus : 7000 € de revenu mensuel pendant dix ans = 840 000 <abbr class="abbr" title="euro">€</abbr>, et il rembourse encore un emprunt pour son appartement à 315 000 <abbr class="abbr" title="euro">€</abbr>). Bref, il y avait deux moyens simples de mettre en doute cette information, et <i>Le Monde</i> ne l'a pas fait. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Azoee" title="Utilisateur:Azoee">azoée</a> <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Azoee" title="Discussion utilisateur:Azoee">¿∞?</a> 13 octobre 2014 à 12:11 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Azoee|2014-10-13T10:11:00.000Z|Recoupe_des_sources_:_2e_passe&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2014-10-13T10:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Azoee&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+</p><p>Dans <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.lemonde.fr/politique/article/2013/04/15/les-patrimoines-des-ministres-consultables-en-ligne_3160219_823448.html">cet article</a> de 2013, <i>Le Monde</i> reprend les informations publiées par les ministres sur leur patrimoine, avec des petits commentaires... alors qu'une simple visite au cadastre a permis à <i>Charlie-Hebdo</i> d'émettre de sérieux doutes sur l'honnêteté du ministre (cela croisé avec un simple calcul sur ses revenus : 7000 € de revenu mensuel pendant dix ans = 840 000 <abbr class="abbr" title="euro">€</abbr>, et il rembourse encore un emprunt pour son appartement à 315 000 <abbr class="abbr" title="euro">€</abbr>). Bref, il y avait deux moyens simples de mettre en doute cette information, et <i>Le Monde</i> ne l'a pas fait. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Azoee" title="Utilisateur:Azoee">azoée</a> <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Azoee" title="Discussion utilisateur:Azoee">¿∞?</a> 13 octobre 2014 à 12:11 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Azoee|2014-10-13T10:11:00.000Z|Recoupe_des_sources_:_2e_passe&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2014-10-13T10:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Azoee&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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 <h2><span id="D.C3.A9s.C3.A9quilibre"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Déséquilibre" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|D\u00e9s\u00e9quilibre|2015-01-11T10:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|2A01:E35:8AE2:3E10:40F5:EB62:596A:89DB|2015-01-11T10:32:00.000Z|D\u00e9s\u00e9quilibre&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Déséquilibre|2015-01-11T10:32:00.000Z"></span>Déséquilibre<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Déséquilibre|2015-01-11T10:32:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|2A01:E35:8AE2:3E10:40F5:EB62:596A:89DB|2015-01-11T10:32:00.000Z|Déséquilibre"></span>Cet article est déséquilibré. Il parle principalement des polémiques du "Monde" des années 2000, alors qu'à cette époque, Le Monde est déjà presque mort, tandis que son heure de gloire est la IVeme République et les débuts de la Veme, du temps  d'Hubert Beuve-Méry,  et cette époque est expédiée dans l'article.
@@ -321,27 +321,27 @@ J'espère que le bandeau disparaîtra vite en tout cas car il ne me semble pas q
 En effet, cet article est globalement Excessivement critique et donne l'impression d'une succession de polémiques entourant le journal.
 Au lieu d'insister sur la volonté d'objectivité et de neutralité idéologique, tout en accordant la parole aux différents courants, tribunes ou éditoriaux signés et par conséquent orientés.
 Le fait qu'une poignée de journalistes soient en désaccord avec leur directeur tous les 4 matins fait partie de la vie de toute publication et plutôt un signe de vitalité. L'article Wikipedia évoque plutot une succession de censures et de partis pris personnels injustifiés.
---<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sp%C3%A9cial:Contributions/2A01:E35:8AE2:3E10:40F5:EB62:596A:89DB" title="Spécial:Contributions/2A01:E35:8AE2:3E10:40F5:EB62:596A:89DB">2A01:E35:8AE2:3E10:40F5:EB62:596A:89DB</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussion_utilisateur:2A01:E35:8AE2:3E10:40F5:EB62:596A:89DB&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Discussion utilisateur:2A01:E35:8AE2:3E10:40F5:EB62:596A:89DB (page inexistante)">discuter</a>) 11 janvier 2015 à 11:32 (CET)A.C.<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|2A01:E35:8AE2:3E10:40F5:EB62:596A:89DB|2015-01-11T10:32:00.000Z|D\u00e9s\u00e9quilibre&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Celette|2015-01-12T20:47:00.000Z|2A01:E35:8AE2:3E10:40F5:EB62:596A:89DB|2015-01-11T10:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2015-01-11T10:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;2A01:E35:8AE2:3E10:40F5:EB62:596A:89DB&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+--<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sp%C3%A9cial:Contributions/2A01:E35:8AE2:3E10:40F5:EB62:596A:89DB" title="Spécial:Contributions/2A01:E35:8AE2:3E10:40F5:EB62:596A:89DB">2A01:E35:8AE2:3E10:40F5:EB62:596A:89DB</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussion_utilisateur:2A01:E35:8AE2:3E10:40F5:EB62:596A:89DB&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Discussion utilisateur:2A01:E35:8AE2:3E10:40F5:EB62:596A:89DB (page inexistante)">discuter</a>) 11 janvier 2015 à 11:32 (CET)A.C.<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|2A01:E35:8AE2:3E10:40F5:EB62:596A:89DB|2015-01-11T10:32:00.000Z|D\u00e9s\u00e9quilibre&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Celette|2015-01-12T20:47:00.000Z|2A01:E35:8AE2:3E10:40F5:EB62:596A:89DB|2015-01-11T10:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2015-01-11T10:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;2A01:E35:8AE2:3E10:40F5:EB62:596A:89DB&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Celette|2015-01-12T20:47:00.000Z|2A01:E35:8AE2:3E10:40F5:EB62:596A:89DB|2015-01-11T10:32:00.000Z"></span>On attend une réaction similaire sur la PdD de l'article du <i>Figaro</i>. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisatrice:Celette" class="mw-redirect" title="Utilisatrice:Celette">Celette</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisatrice:Celette" title="Discussion utilisatrice:Celette">discuter</a>) 12 janvier 2015 à 21:47 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Celette|2015-01-12T20:47:00.000Z|2A01:E35:8AE2:3E10:40F5:EB62:596A:89DB|2015-01-11T10:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2015-01-12T20:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Celette&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Celette|2015-01-12T20:47:00.000Z|2A01:E35:8AE2:3E10:40F5:EB62:596A:89DB|2015-01-11T10:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Celette|2015-01-12T20:47:00.000Z|2A01:E35:8AE2:3E10:40F5:EB62:596A:89DB|2015-01-11T10:32:00.000Z"></span>On attend une réaction similaire sur la PdD de l'article du <i>Figaro</i>. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisatrice:Celette" class="mw-redirect" title="Utilisatrice:Celette">Celette</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisatrice:Celette" title="Discussion utilisatrice:Celette">discuter</a>) 12 janvier 2015 à 21:47 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Celette|2015-01-12T20:47:00.000Z|2A01:E35:8AE2:3E10:40F5:EB62:596A:89DB|2015-01-11T10:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2015-01-12T20:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Celette&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Celette|2015-01-12T20:47:00.000Z|2A01:E35:8AE2:3E10:40F5:EB62:596A:89DB|2015-01-11T10:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id="Histoire_.26_Civilisations"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Histoire_&amp;_Civilisations" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Histoire_&amp;_Civilisations|2014-09-25T06:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|H\u00e9g\u00e9sippe Cormier|2014-09-25T06:08:00.000Z|Histoire_&amp;_Civilisations&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Histoire_&amp;_Civilisations|2014-09-25T06:08:00.000Z"></span>Histoire &amp; Civilisations<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Histoire_&amp;_Civilisations|2014-09-25T06:08:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Hégésippe Cormier|2014-09-25T06:08:00.000Z|Histoire_&amp;_Civilisations"></span>@ <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Notron" title="Utilisateur:Notron">Notron</a> : <i>Histoire National Geographic</i> devenant <i>Histoire &amp; Civilisations</i> <b>n'est pas édité</b> par <i>Le MOnde</i>, lequel ne fait que présenter la chose, comme pour les 30 volumes parus entre janvier et août. La maîtrise éditoriale est et a toujours été assurée par la filiale française du <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Groupe_RBA&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Groupe RBA (page inexistante)">groupe RBA</a> <a href="https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/RBA" class="extiw" title="ca:RBA"><span class="indicateur-langue" title="Équivalent de l’article « groupe RBA » dans une autre langue">(ca)</span></a>, basé à Barcelone, avec de simples partenariats avec <i>National Geographic</i> et <i>Le MOnde</i>. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:H%C3%A9g%C3%A9sippe_Cormier" title="Utilisateur:Hégésippe Cormier">Hégésippe</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:H%C3%A9g%C3%A9sippe_Cormier" title="Discussion utilisateur:Hégésippe Cormier"><b>discuter</b></a>) [opérateur] 25 septembre 2014 à 08:08 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|H\u00e9g\u00e9sippe Cormier|2014-09-25T06:08:00.000Z|Histoire_&amp;_Civilisations&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Notron|2014-10-01T23:05:00.000Z|H\u00e9g\u00e9sippe Cormier|2014-09-25T06:08:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2014-09-25T06:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;H\u00e9g\u00e9sippe Cormier&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Hégésippe Cormier|2014-09-25T06:08:00.000Z|Histoire_&amp;_Civilisations"></span>@ <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Notron" title="Utilisateur:Notron">Notron</a> : <i>Histoire National Geographic</i> devenant <i>Histoire &amp; Civilisations</i> <b>n'est pas édité</b> par <i>Le MOnde</i>, lequel ne fait que présenter la chose, comme pour les 30 volumes parus entre janvier et août. La maîtrise éditoriale est et a toujours été assurée par la filiale française du <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Groupe_RBA&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Groupe RBA (page inexistante)">groupe RBA</a> <a href="https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/RBA" class="extiw" title="ca:RBA"><span class="indicateur-langue" title="Équivalent de l’article « groupe RBA » dans une autre langue">(ca)</span></a>, basé à Barcelone, avec de simples partenariats avec <i>National Geographic</i> et <i>Le MOnde</i>. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:H%C3%A9g%C3%A9sippe_Cormier" title="Utilisateur:Hégésippe Cormier">Hégésippe</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:H%C3%A9g%C3%A9sippe_Cormier" title="Discussion utilisateur:Hégésippe Cormier"><b>discuter</b></a>) [opérateur] 25 septembre 2014 à 08:08 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|H\u00e9g\u00e9sippe Cormier|2014-09-25T06:08:00.000Z|Histoire_&amp;_Civilisations&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Notron|2014-10-01T23:05:00.000Z|H\u00e9g\u00e9sippe Cormier|2014-09-25T06:08:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2014-09-25T06:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;H\u00e9g\u00e9sippe Cormier&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Notron|2014-10-01T23:05:00.000Z|Hégésippe Cormier|2014-09-25T06:08:00.000Z"></span>Il n'est pas incongrus d'y faire référence sur la page consacrée au <i>Monde</i>, quand le magazine s'appel <i>Le Monde National Geographic Histoire &amp; Civilisations</i> il conserve le partenariat de <i>National Geographic</i> et s'ajoute le partenariat du <i>Monde</i>. C'est coédité sous forme de partenariat entre <i>Le Monde</i> et <i>National Geographic</i> c'est réalisé par les équipes RBA France (basée à Paris, 105, avenue Raymond Poincaré), filiale française de <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Groupe_RBA&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Groupe RBA (page inexistante)">Groupe RBA</a> <a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/RBA" class="extiw" title="es:RBA"><span class="indicateur-langue" title="Équivalent de l’article « Groupe RBA » dans une autre langue">(es)</span></a> dont la maison mère est à Barcelone. <i>Le Monde</i> à créé une rubrique <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.lemonde.fr/histoire-civilisations/">Histoire &amp; Civilisations</a> sur son site.--<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Notron" title="Utilisateur:Notron">Notron</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Notron" title="Discussion utilisateur:Notron">discuter</a>) 2 octobre 2014 à 01:05 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Notron|2014-10-01T23:05:00.000Z|H\u00e9g\u00e9sippe Cormier|2014-09-25T06:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Azoee|2014-10-02T07:32:00.000Z|Notron|2014-10-01T23:05:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2014-10-01T23:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Notron&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Notron|2014-10-01T23:05:00.000Z|Hégésippe Cormier|2014-09-25T06:08:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Azoee|2014-10-02T07:32:00.000Z|Notron|2014-10-01T23:05:00.000Z"></span>+1 avec <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Notron" title="Utilisateur:Notron"><span title="page utilisateur du compte Notron">Notron</span></a> <small class="plainlinks">(<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Notron" title="Discussion utilisateur:Notron"><abbr class="abbr" title="page de discussion du compte Notron">d</abbr></a> · <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sp%C3%A9cial:Contributions/Notron" title="Spécial:Contributions/Notron"><abbr class="abbr" title="contributions du compte Notron">c</abbr></a> · <a class="external text" href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sp%C3%A9cial:Log&amp;type=block&amp;page=User:Notron"><span style="color:#002bb8;"><abbr class="abbr" title="blocages du compte Notron">b</abbr></span></a>)</small> : la présentation assume complètement une responsabilité éditoriale (« Une collection " Le Monde " », « ce volume de notre collection », etc.). Cela dit,si ces infos encombrent trop cet article, il est possible de créer un article <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupe_Le_Monde" title="Groupe Le Monde">Groupe Le Monde</a> ou <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%C3%89ditions_Le_Monde&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Éditions Le Monde (page inexistante)">Éditions Le Monde</a>. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Azoee" title="Utilisateur:Azoee">azoée</a> <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Azoee" title="Discussion utilisateur:Azoee">¿∞?</a> 2 octobre 2014 à 09:32 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Azoee|2014-10-02T07:32:00.000Z|Notron|2014-10-01T23:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2014-10-02T07:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Azoee&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Azoee|2014-10-02T07:32:00.000Z|Notron|2014-10-01T23:05:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Notron|2014-10-01T23:05:00.000Z|Hégésippe Cormier|2014-09-25T06:08:00.000Z"></span>Il n'est pas incongrus d'y faire référence sur la page consacrée au <i>Monde</i>, quand le magazine s'appel <i>Le Monde National Geographic Histoire &amp; Civilisations</i> il conserve le partenariat de <i>National Geographic</i> et s'ajoute le partenariat du <i>Monde</i>. C'est coédité sous forme de partenariat entre <i>Le Monde</i> et <i>National Geographic</i> c'est réalisé par les équipes RBA France (basée à Paris, 105, avenue Raymond Poincaré), filiale française de <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Groupe_RBA&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Groupe RBA (page inexistante)">Groupe RBA</a> <a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/RBA" class="extiw" title="es:RBA"><span class="indicateur-langue" title="Équivalent de l’article « Groupe RBA » dans une autre langue">(es)</span></a> dont la maison mère est à Barcelone. <i>Le Monde</i> à créé une rubrique <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.lemonde.fr/histoire-civilisations/">Histoire &amp; Civilisations</a> sur son site.--<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Notron" title="Utilisateur:Notron">Notron</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Notron" title="Discussion utilisateur:Notron">discuter</a>) 2 octobre 2014 à 01:05 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Notron|2014-10-01T23:05:00.000Z|H\u00e9g\u00e9sippe Cormier|2014-09-25T06:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Azoee|2014-10-02T07:32:00.000Z|Notron|2014-10-01T23:05:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2014-10-01T23:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Notron&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Notron|2014-10-01T23:05:00.000Z|Hégésippe Cormier|2014-09-25T06:08:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Azoee|2014-10-02T07:32:00.000Z|Notron|2014-10-01T23:05:00.000Z"></span>+1 avec <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Notron" title="Utilisateur:Notron"><span title="page utilisateur du compte Notron">Notron</span></a> <small class="plainlinks">(<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Notron" title="Discussion utilisateur:Notron"><abbr class="abbr" title="page de discussion du compte Notron">d</abbr></a> · <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sp%C3%A9cial:Contributions/Notron" title="Spécial:Contributions/Notron"><abbr class="abbr" title="contributions du compte Notron">c</abbr></a> · <a class="external text" href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sp%C3%A9cial:Log&amp;type=block&amp;page=User:Notron"><span style="color:#002bb8;"><abbr class="abbr" title="blocages du compte Notron">b</abbr></span></a>)</small> : la présentation assume complètement une responsabilité éditoriale (« Une collection " Le Monde " », « ce volume de notre collection », etc.). Cela dit,si ces infos encombrent trop cet article, il est possible de créer un article <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupe_Le_Monde" title="Groupe Le Monde">Groupe Le Monde</a> ou <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%C3%89ditions_Le_Monde&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Éditions Le Monde (page inexistante)">Éditions Le Monde</a>. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Azoee" title="Utilisateur:Azoee">azoée</a> <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Azoee" title="Discussion utilisateur:Azoee">¿∞?</a> 2 octobre 2014 à 09:32 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Azoee|2014-10-02T07:32:00.000Z|Notron|2014-10-01T23:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2014-10-02T07:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Azoee&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Azoee|2014-10-02T07:32:00.000Z|Notron|2014-10-01T23:05:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Fusion_entre_Le_Monde_et_Le_Monde_interactif" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Fusion_entre_Le_Monde_et_Le_Monde_interactif|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z|Fusion_entre_Le_Monde_et_Le_Monde_interactif&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Fusion_entre_Le_Monde_et_Le_Monde_interactif|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z"></span>Fusion entre <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Monde" title="Le Monde">Le Monde</a> et <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Monde_interactif" class="mw-redirect" title="Le Monde interactif">Le Monde interactif</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h|Fusion_entre_Le_Monde_et_Le_Monde_interactif|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><small><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z|Fusion_entre_Le_Monde_et_Le_Monde_interactif"></span>Discussion transférée depuis <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Pages_%C3%A0_fusionner" title="Wikipédia:Pages à fusionner">Wikipédia:Pages à fusionner</a></small> <br/> 
 Idem que pour la section précédente, et dans la lignée de <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion:L%27%C3%89quipe_interactif/Suppression" title="Discussion:L'Équipe interactif/Suppression">Discussion:L'Équipe interactif/Suppression</a> ; d’autant que <i><a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Monde.fr" class="mw-redirect" title="Le Monde.fr">Le Monde.fr</a></i> redirige vers… <i><a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Monde" title="Le Monde">Le Monde</a></i>.
 </p><p>Une redirection vers <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Monde#Le_Monde.fr" title="Le Monde">Le Monde#Le Monde.fr</a> me semblerait plus pertinente.
-</p><p><a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Schlum" title="Utilisateur:Schlum">schlum</a> <sup><a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Schlum" title="Discussion utilisateur:Schlum">=^.^=</a></sup> 31 mars 2016 à 11:06 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z|Fusion_entre_Le_Monde_et_Le_Monde_interactif&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Krosian2B|2016-03-31T16:43:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Daxipedia|2016-03-31T21:24:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Apipo1907|2016-04-01T07:41:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Jmex|2016-04-04T15:30:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Nouill|2016-04-11T04:00:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|L'amateur d'a\u00e9roplanes|2016-04-14T06:30:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Schlum&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+</p><p><a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Schlum" title="Utilisateur:Schlum">schlum</a> <sup><a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Schlum" title="Discussion utilisateur:Schlum">=^.^=</a></sup> 31 mars 2016 à 11:06 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z|Fusion_entre_Le_Monde_et_Le_Monde_interactif&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Krosian2B|2016-03-31T16:43:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Daxipedia|2016-03-31T21:24:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Apipo1907|2016-04-01T07:41:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Jmex|2016-04-04T15:30:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Nouill|2016-04-11T04:00:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|L'amateur d'a\u00e9roplanes|2016-04-14T06:30:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Schlum&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<ol><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Krosian2B|2016-03-31T16:43:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> <strong>Pour</strong> --<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Krosian2B" title="Utilisateur:Krosian2B">Krosian2B</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Krosian2B" title="Discussion utilisateur:Krosian2B">discuter</a>) 31 mars 2016 à 18:43 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Krosian2B|2016-03-31T16:43:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2016-03-31T16:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Krosian2B&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Krosian2B|2016-03-31T16:43:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Daxipedia|2016-03-31T21:24:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> <strong>Pour</strong>. Contrairement au cas du <i>Figaro</i> (voir mon avis ci-dessus), le terme <i>Le Monde interactif</i> semble bel et bien avoir existé, la redirection post-fusion semble donc cohérente. - <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Daxipedia" title="Utilisateur:Daxipedia"><b>Dax</b>ipedia - <b>達克斯</b>百科</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Daxipedia" title="Discussion utilisateur:Daxipedia">discuter</a>) 31 mars 2016 à 23:24 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Daxipedia|2016-03-31T21:24:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2016-03-31T21:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Daxipedia&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Daxipedia|2016-03-31T21:24:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Apipo1907|2016-04-01T07:41:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> <strong>Pour</strong> fusion possible car <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_monde" class="mw-redirect" title="Le monde">Le monde</a> contient toutes les informations nécessaires qui sont abordées dans <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Monde_interactif" class="mw-redirect" title="Le Monde interactif">Le Monde interactif</a>. Cordialement<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Apipo1907" title="Utilisateur:Apipo1907">Apipo1907</a> <sup><a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Apipo1907" title="Discussion utilisateur:Apipo1907">jambo !!!</a></sup> 1 avril 2016 à 09:41 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Apipo1907|2016-04-01T07:41:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2016-04-01T07:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Apipo1907&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Apipo1907|2016-04-01T07:41:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Jmex|2016-04-04T15:30:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> <strong>Contre</strong> j'estime que le Monde interactif mérite d'avoir son article, lequel a un fort potentiel de développement vu l'importance que prennent les activités numériques pour ce vénérable journal. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Jmex" title="Utilisateur:Jmex">Jmex</a>  <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Jmex" title="Discussion utilisateur:Jmex">(♫)</a> 4 avril 2016 à 17:30 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Jmex|2016-04-04T15:30:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2016-04-04T15:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Jmex&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Jmex|2016-04-04T15:30:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nouill|2016-04-11T04:00:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> <strong>Pour</strong>, le deuxième est un article très confus, la séparation rajoute de la confusion. --<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Nouill" title="Utilisateur:Nouill">Nouill</a> 11 avril 2016 à 06:00 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nouill|2016-04-11T04:00:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2016-04-11T04:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nouill&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nouill|2016-04-11T04:00:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|L'amateur d'aéroplanes|2016-04-14T06:30:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> <strong>Pour</strong> la redirection. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:L%27amateur_d%27a%C3%A9roplanes" title="Utilisateur:L'amateur d'aéroplanes">L'amateur d'aéroplanes</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:L%27amateur_d%27a%C3%A9roplanes" title="Discussion utilisateur:L'amateur d'aéroplanes">discuter</a>) 14 avril 2016 à 08:30 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|L'amateur d'a\u00e9roplanes|2016-04-14T06:30:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nouill|2016-04-17T06:58:00.000Z|L'amateur d'a\u00e9roplanes|2016-04-14T06:30:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2016-04-14T06:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;L'amateur d'a\u00e9roplanes&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|L'amateur d'aéroplanes|2016-04-14T06:30:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z"></span></li></ol>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nouill|2016-04-17T06:58:00.000Z|L'amateur d'aéroplanes|2016-04-14T06:30:00.000Z"></span>Fait, presque rien à transférer. --<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Nouill" title="Utilisateur:Nouill">Nouill</a> 17 avril 2016 à 08:58 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nouill|2016-04-17T06:58:00.000Z|L'amateur d'a\u00e9roplanes|2016-04-14T06:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2016-04-17T06:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nouill&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nouill|2016-04-17T06:58:00.000Z|L'amateur d'aéroplanes|2016-04-14T06:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<ol><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Krosian2B|2016-03-31T16:43:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> <strong>Pour</strong> --<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Krosian2B" title="Utilisateur:Krosian2B">Krosian2B</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Krosian2B" title="Discussion utilisateur:Krosian2B">discuter</a>) 31 mars 2016 à 18:43 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Krosian2B|2016-03-31T16:43:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2016-03-31T16:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Krosian2B&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Krosian2B|2016-03-31T16:43:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Daxipedia|2016-03-31T21:24:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> <strong>Pour</strong>. Contrairement au cas du <i>Figaro</i> (voir mon avis ci-dessus), le terme <i>Le Monde interactif</i> semble bel et bien avoir existé, la redirection post-fusion semble donc cohérente. - <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Daxipedia" title="Utilisateur:Daxipedia"><b>Dax</b>ipedia - <b>達克斯</b>百科</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Daxipedia" title="Discussion utilisateur:Daxipedia">discuter</a>) 31 mars 2016 à 23:24 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Daxipedia|2016-03-31T21:24:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2016-03-31T21:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Daxipedia&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Daxipedia|2016-03-31T21:24:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Apipo1907|2016-04-01T07:41:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> <strong>Pour</strong> fusion possible car <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_monde" class="mw-redirect" title="Le monde">Le monde</a> contient toutes les informations nécessaires qui sont abordées dans <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Monde_interactif" class="mw-redirect" title="Le Monde interactif">Le Monde interactif</a>. Cordialement<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Apipo1907" title="Utilisateur:Apipo1907">Apipo1907</a> <sup><a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Apipo1907" title="Discussion utilisateur:Apipo1907">jambo !!!</a></sup> 1 avril 2016 à 09:41 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Apipo1907|2016-04-01T07:41:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2016-04-01T07:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Apipo1907&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Apipo1907|2016-04-01T07:41:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Jmex|2016-04-04T15:30:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> <strong>Contre</strong> j'estime que le Monde interactif mérite d'avoir son article, lequel a un fort potentiel de développement vu l'importance que prennent les activités numériques pour ce vénérable journal. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Jmex" title="Utilisateur:Jmex">Jmex</a>  <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Jmex" title="Discussion utilisateur:Jmex">(♫)</a> 4 avril 2016 à 17:30 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Jmex|2016-04-04T15:30:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2016-04-04T15:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Jmex&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Jmex|2016-04-04T15:30:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nouill|2016-04-11T04:00:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> <strong>Pour</strong>, le deuxième est un article très confus, la séparation rajoute de la confusion. --<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Nouill" title="Utilisateur:Nouill">Nouill</a> 11 avril 2016 à 06:00 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nouill|2016-04-11T04:00:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2016-04-11T04:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nouill&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nouill|2016-04-11T04:00:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|L'amateur d'aéroplanes|2016-04-14T06:30:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/> <strong>Pour</strong> la redirection. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:L%27amateur_d%27a%C3%A9roplanes" title="Utilisateur:L'amateur d'aéroplanes">L'amateur d'aéroplanes</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:L%27amateur_d%27a%C3%A9roplanes" title="Discussion utilisateur:L'amateur d'aéroplanes">discuter</a>) 14 avril 2016 à 08:30 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|L'amateur d'a\u00e9roplanes|2016-04-14T06:30:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Nouill|2016-04-17T06:58:00.000Z|L'amateur d'a\u00e9roplanes|2016-04-14T06:30:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2016-04-14T06:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;L'amateur d'a\u00e9roplanes&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|L'amateur d'aéroplanes|2016-04-14T06:30:00.000Z|Schlum|2016-03-31T09:06:00.000Z"></span></li></ol>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Nouill|2016-04-17T06:58:00.000Z|L'amateur d'aéroplanes|2016-04-14T06:30:00.000Z"></span>Fait, presque rien à transférer. --<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Nouill" title="Utilisateur:Nouill">Nouill</a> 17 avril 2016 à 08:58 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Nouill|2016-04-17T06:58:00.000Z|L'amateur d'a\u00e9roplanes|2016-04-14T06:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2016-04-17T06:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Nouill&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Nouill|2016-04-17T06:58:00.000Z|L'amateur d'aéroplanes|2016-04-14T06:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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@@ -349,7 +349,7 @@ Idem que pour la section précédente, et dans la lignée de <a href="//fr.wikip
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-</p><p>Cordialement.—<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:InternetArchiveBot" class="extiw" title="en:User:InternetArchiveBot"><b><span style="color:darkgrey;font-family:monospace">InternetArchiveBot</span></b></a> <span style="color:green;font-family:Rockwell">(<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:InternetArchiveBot" class="extiw" title="en:User talk:InternetArchiveBot">Rapportez une erreur</a>)</span> 21 mars 2018 à 00:32 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|InternetArchiveBot|2018-03-20T23:32:00.000Z|Liens_externes_modifi\u00e9s&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-03-20T23:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;InternetArchiveBot&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+</p><p>Cordialement.—<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:InternetArchiveBot" class="extiw" title="en:User:InternetArchiveBot"><b><span style="color:darkgrey;font-family:monospace">InternetArchiveBot</span></b></a> <span style="color:green;font-family:Rockwell">(<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:InternetArchiveBot" class="extiw" title="en:User talk:InternetArchiveBot">Rapportez une erreur</a>)</span> 21 mars 2018 à 00:32 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|InternetArchiveBot|2018-03-20T23:32:00.000Z|Liens_externes_modifi\u00e9s&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-03-20T23:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;InternetArchiveBot&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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 <p>La source est insuffisante pour justifier la mention "Classé parmi les quotidiens français « de référence »", non ?
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-02-19T17:08:00.000Z|Déclaration_partisane_???"></span>@<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Salsero35" title="Utilisateur:Salsero35">Salsero35</a> Pourriez vous être plus explicite sur ce qui empêche, d'un coup, que cette citation d'Ariane Chemin <a class="external autonumber" href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Le_Monde&amp;curd=963679&amp;diff=167590631&amp;oldid=167574976">[3]</a> issue d'un article de Pierre Péan paru dans le Le Monde Diplomatique figure dans l’article ? J'avoue ne pas comprendre. --<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:J%27en_passe_et_des_meilleurs" title="Utilisateur:J'en passe et des meilleurs">J'en passe et des meilleurs</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:J%27en_passe_et_des_meilleurs" title="Discussion utilisateur:J'en passe et des meilleurs">discuter</a>) 19 février 2020 à 18:08 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-02-19T17:08:00.000Z|D\u00e9claration_partisane_???&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Salsero35|2020-02-22T12:29:00.000Z|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-02-19T17:08:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-02-19T17:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;J'en passe et des meilleurs&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-02-19T17:08:00.000Z|Déclaration_partisane_???"></span>@<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Salsero35" title="Utilisateur:Salsero35">Salsero35</a> Pourriez vous être plus explicite sur ce qui empêche, d'un coup, que cette citation d'Ariane Chemin <a class="external autonumber" href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Le_Monde&amp;curd=963679&amp;diff=167590631&amp;oldid=167574976">[3]</a> issue d'un article de Pierre Péan paru dans le Le Monde Diplomatique figure dans l’article ? J'avoue ne pas comprendre. --<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:J%27en_passe_et_des_meilleurs" title="Utilisateur:J'en passe et des meilleurs">J'en passe et des meilleurs</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:J%27en_passe_et_des_meilleurs" title="Discussion utilisateur:J'en passe et des meilleurs">discuter</a>) 19 février 2020 à 18:08 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-02-19T17:08:00.000Z|D\u00e9claration_partisane_???&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Salsero35|2020-02-22T12:29:00.000Z|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-02-19T17:08:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-02-19T17:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;J'en passe et des meilleurs&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
 <span data-mw-comment-end="c|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-02-19T17:08:00.000Z|Déclaration_partisane_???"></span></p>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Salsero35|2020-02-22T12:29:00.000Z|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-02-19T17:08:00.000Z"></span>Bonjour. Une journaliste qui émet un Pov sur son propre journal est une déclaration manquant d'indépendance et constitue une <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:SPS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipédia:SPS">source primaire</a>. Ce type de <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:POV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipédia:POV">WP:POV</a> est prohibé sur Wp. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Salsero35" title="Utilisateur:Salsero35">Salsero35 </a><sup class="exposant"><big><font color="#000080"> <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Salsero35" title="Discussion utilisateur:Salsero35"><font color="#000080">☎</font></a> </font></big> </sup> 22 février 2020 à 13:29 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Salsero35|2020-02-22T12:29:00.000Z|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-02-19T17:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Baldurar|2020-02-22T13:56:00.000Z|Salsero35|2020-02-22T12:29:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-02-22T12:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Salsero35&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Baldurar|2020-02-22T13:56:00.000Z|Salsero35|2020-02-22T12:29:00.000Z"></span>Toute source secondaire travaille à partir de sources primaires. On ne peut donc rejeter une source secondaire (ici le Monde diplomatique, Pierre Péan <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.monde-diplomatique.fr/2019/09/PEAN/60338">[4]</a>) au prétexte qu'elle relaie dans une démonstration une source primaire. Mais je comprends la réticence de Salsero35. Pour une information de ce genre, il vaudrait mieux trouver une source secondaire centrée sur le sujet (<i>Le Monde</i>), au cas où, par exemple, il y ait des enquêtes d'initiative menées par ce journal sur d'autres sujets que les « affaires », puisque c'est ce dont parle Pierre Péan. --<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Baldurar" title="Utilisateur:Baldurar">Baldurar</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Baldurar" title="Discussion utilisateur:Baldurar">discuter</a>) 22 février 2020 à 14:56 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Baldurar|2020-02-22T13:56:00.000Z|Salsero35|2020-02-22T12:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-02-24T08:26:00.000Z|Baldurar|2020-02-22T13:56:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-02-22T13:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Baldurar&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-02-24T08:26:00.000Z|Baldurar|2020-02-22T13:56:00.000Z"></span>Il n’émet pas un POV sur son propre journal (ce qui n'est d'ailleurs plus le cas au moment où il a écrit ces lignes), il rapporte une citation d'Ariane Chemin non contestée par celle-ci à ma connaissance.--<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:J%27en_passe_et_des_meilleurs" title="Utilisateur:J'en passe et des meilleurs">J'en passe et des meilleurs</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:J%27en_passe_et_des_meilleurs" title="Discussion utilisateur:J'en passe et des meilleurs">discuter</a>) 24 février 2020 à 09:26 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-02-24T08:26:00.000Z|Baldurar|2020-02-22T13:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Apollofox|2020-03-05T21:30:00.000Z|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-02-24T08:26:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-02-24T08:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;J'en passe et des meilleurs&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Apollofox|2020-03-05T21:30:00.000Z|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-02-24T08:26:00.000Z"></span>Idem, une interview dans une source notoire (ici le monde diplo) n’est pas une source primaire. Son propre blog oui. Il faudrait rétablir en attribuant la déclaration et la source, si source contradictoire apparait on avisera mais ce n'est pas le cas. Mais Salsero si tu veux un bon gros TI à base de sources primaires, la partie  “Articles et contributions extérieures sur la pédocriminalité”, qui mélange en plus homosexualité et pédophilie (le vieil amalgame), là il va falloir faire un sérieux ménage. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Apollofox" title="Utilisateur:Apollofox">Apollofox</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Apollofox" title="Discussion utilisateur:Apollofox">discuter</a>) 5 mars 2020 à 22:30 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Apollofox|2020-03-05T21:30:00.000Z|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-02-24T08:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-05T21:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Apollofox&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Apollofox|2020-03-05T21:30:00.000Z|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-02-24T08:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl><span data-mw-comment-end="c|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-02-24T08:26:00.000Z|Baldurar|2020-02-22T13:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Baldurar|2020-02-22T13:56:00.000Z|Salsero35|2020-02-22T12:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Salsero35|2020-02-22T12:29:00.000Z|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-02-19T17:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Salsero35|2020-02-22T12:29:00.000Z|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-02-19T17:08:00.000Z"></span>Bonjour. Une journaliste qui émet un Pov sur son propre journal est une déclaration manquant d'indépendance et constitue une <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:SPS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipédia:SPS">source primaire</a>. Ce type de <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:POV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipédia:POV">WP:POV</a> est prohibé sur Wp. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Salsero35" title="Utilisateur:Salsero35">Salsero35 </a><sup class="exposant"><big><font color="#000080"> <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Salsero35" title="Discussion utilisateur:Salsero35"><font color="#000080">☎</font></a> </font></big> </sup> 22 février 2020 à 13:29 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Salsero35|2020-02-22T12:29:00.000Z|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-02-19T17:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Baldurar|2020-02-22T13:56:00.000Z|Salsero35|2020-02-22T12:29:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-02-22T12:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Salsero35&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Baldurar|2020-02-22T13:56:00.000Z|Salsero35|2020-02-22T12:29:00.000Z"></span>Toute source secondaire travaille à partir de sources primaires. On ne peut donc rejeter une source secondaire (ici le Monde diplomatique, Pierre Péan <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.monde-diplomatique.fr/2019/09/PEAN/60338">[4]</a>) au prétexte qu'elle relaie dans une démonstration une source primaire. Mais je comprends la réticence de Salsero35. Pour une information de ce genre, il vaudrait mieux trouver une source secondaire centrée sur le sujet (<i>Le Monde</i>), au cas où, par exemple, il y ait des enquêtes d'initiative menées par ce journal sur d'autres sujets que les « affaires », puisque c'est ce dont parle Pierre Péan. --<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Baldurar" title="Utilisateur:Baldurar">Baldurar</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Baldurar" title="Discussion utilisateur:Baldurar">discuter</a>) 22 février 2020 à 14:56 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Baldurar|2020-02-22T13:56:00.000Z|Salsero35|2020-02-22T12:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-02-24T08:26:00.000Z|Baldurar|2020-02-22T13:56:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-02-22T13:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Baldurar&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-02-24T08:26:00.000Z|Baldurar|2020-02-22T13:56:00.000Z"></span>Il n’émet pas un POV sur son propre journal (ce qui n'est d'ailleurs plus le cas au moment où il a écrit ces lignes), il rapporte une citation d'Ariane Chemin non contestée par celle-ci à ma connaissance.--<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:J%27en_passe_et_des_meilleurs" title="Utilisateur:J'en passe et des meilleurs">J'en passe et des meilleurs</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:J%27en_passe_et_des_meilleurs" title="Discussion utilisateur:J'en passe et des meilleurs">discuter</a>) 24 février 2020 à 09:26 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-02-24T08:26:00.000Z|Baldurar|2020-02-22T13:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Apollofox|2020-03-05T21:30:00.000Z|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-02-24T08:26:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-02-24T08:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;J'en passe et des meilleurs&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Apollofox|2020-03-05T21:30:00.000Z|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-02-24T08:26:00.000Z"></span>Idem, une interview dans une source notoire (ici le monde diplo) n’est pas une source primaire. Son propre blog oui. Il faudrait rétablir en attribuant la déclaration et la source, si source contradictoire apparait on avisera mais ce n'est pas le cas. Mais Salsero si tu veux un bon gros TI à base de sources primaires, la partie  “Articles et contributions extérieures sur la pédocriminalité”, qui mélange en plus homosexualité et pédophilie (le vieil amalgame), là il va falloir faire un sérieux ménage. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Apollofox" title="Utilisateur:Apollofox">Apollofox</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Apollofox" title="Discussion utilisateur:Apollofox">discuter</a>) 5 mars 2020 à 22:30 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Apollofox|2020-03-05T21:30:00.000Z|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-02-24T08:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-03-05T21:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Apollofox&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Apollofox|2020-03-05T21:30:00.000Z|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-02-24T08:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl><span data-mw-comment-end="c|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-02-24T08:26:00.000Z|Baldurar|2020-02-22T13:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Baldurar|2020-02-22T13:56:00.000Z|Salsero35|2020-02-22T12:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Salsero35|2020-02-22T12:29:00.000Z|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-02-19T17:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id="Le_Monde_arros.C3.A9_par_Bill_Gates"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Le_Monde_arrosé_par_Bill_Gates" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Le_Monde_arros\u00e9_par_Bill_Gates|2020-05-01T13:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Marvoir|2020-05-01T13:09:00.000Z|Le_Monde_arros\u00e9_par_Bill_Gates&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Le_Monde_arrosé_par_Bill_Gates|2020-05-01T13:09:00.000Z"></span><i>Le Monde</i> arrosé par Bill Gates<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Le_Monde_arrosé_par_Bill_Gates|2020-05-01T13:09:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Marvoir|2020-05-01T13:09:00.000Z|Le_Monde_arrosé_par_Bill_Gates"></span>La Bill &amp; Melinda Gates Foundation a arrosé <i>Le Monde</i> pendant plusieurs années, comme on peut le voir sur <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.gatesfoundation.org/how-we-work/quick-links/grants-database#q/k=le%20monde">le site de cette fondation</a>. Je suppose que si on le mentionne dans l'article, ce sera réverté parce que provenant d'une source primaire ? <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Marvoir" class="mw-redirect" title="Utilisateur:Marvoir">Marvoir</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Marvoir" title="Discussion utilisateur:Marvoir">discuter</a>) 1 mai 2020 à 15:09 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Marvoir|2020-05-01T13:09:00.000Z|Le_Monde_arros\u00e9_par_Bill_Gates&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Salsero35|2020-05-01T14:18:00.000Z|Marvoir|2020-05-01T13:09:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-05-01T13:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Marvoir&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Marvoir|2020-05-01T13:09:00.000Z|Le_Monde_arrosé_par_Bill_Gates"></span>La Bill &amp; Melinda Gates Foundation a arrosé <i>Le Monde</i> pendant plusieurs années, comme on peut le voir sur <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.gatesfoundation.org/how-we-work/quick-links/grants-database#q/k=le%20monde">le site de cette fondation</a>. Je suppose que si on le mentionne dans l'article, ce sera réverté parce que provenant d'une source primaire ? <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Marvoir" class="mw-redirect" title="Utilisateur:Marvoir">Marvoir</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Marvoir" title="Discussion utilisateur:Marvoir">discuter</a>) 1 mai 2020 à 15:09 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Marvoir|2020-05-01T13:09:00.000Z|Le_Monde_arros\u00e9_par_Bill_Gates&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Salsero35|2020-05-01T14:18:00.000Z|Marvoir|2020-05-01T13:09:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-05-01T13:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Marvoir&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Salsero35|2020-05-01T14:18:00.000Z|Marvoir|2020-05-01T13:09:00.000Z"></span>Bien supposé. Mais bien joué de la part de Marvoir : çà mange pas de pain de signaler ce fait en pdD, vu que ce contributeur estime que tous les grands journaux occidentaux sont à la solde de capitalistes financiers qui dictent la politique éditoriale de ces médias. Une des thématiques favorites des complotistes adeptes des sources alternatives dont leur activité éditoriale est, contrairement aux médias mainstream, dictée… que par le désintérêt et le goût de la vraie Vérité. Le pire, c'est que sa recherche sur ce site… ne concerne pas le journal Le Monde. Conclusion : on cherche … que ce qu'on veut chercher, et on est un POV-pusher justement parce qu'on cherche… que ce qu'on veut trouver. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Salsero35" title="Utilisateur:Salsero35">Salsero35 </a><sup class="exposant"><big><font color="#000080"> <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Salsero35" title="Discussion utilisateur:Salsero35"><font color="#000080">☎</font></a> </font></big> </sup> 1 mai 2020 à 16:18 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Salsero35|2020-05-01T14:18:00.000Z|Marvoir|2020-05-01T13:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Marvoir|2020-05-01T15:27:00.000Z|Salsero35|2020-05-01T14:18:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-05-01T14:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Salsero35&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Salsero35|2020-05-01T14:18:00.000Z|Marvoir|2020-05-01T13:09:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Marvoir|2020-05-01T15:27:00.000Z|Salsero35|2020-05-01T14:18:00.000Z"></span>Vous dites qu'il ne s'agit pas du journal Le Monde. Je veux bien vous croire, mais pouvez-vous préciser quel est alors l'organisme appelé "Le Monde" qui a été arrosé par la Bill &amp; Melinda Gates Foundation ? <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Marvoir" class="mw-redirect" title="Utilisateur:Marvoir">Marvoir</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Marvoir" title="Discussion utilisateur:Marvoir">discuter</a>) 1 mai 2020 à 17:27 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Marvoir|2020-05-01T15:27:00.000Z|Salsero35|2020-05-01T14:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Marvoir|2020-05-01T17:50:00.000Z|Marvoir|2020-05-01T15:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-05-01T15:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Marvoir&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Marvoir|2020-05-01T15:27:00.000Z|Salsero35|2020-05-01T14:18:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Salsero35" title="Utilisateur:Salsero35"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Marvoir|2020-05-01T17:50:00.000Z|Marvoir|2020-05-01T15:27:00.000Z"></span>Salsero35 </a>, ne pourriez-vous vraiment pas répondre à ma question ? <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Marvoir" class="mw-redirect" title="Utilisateur:Marvoir">Marvoir</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Marvoir" title="Discussion utilisateur:Marvoir">discuter</a>) 1 mai 2020 à 19:50 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Marvoir|2020-05-01T17:50:00.000Z|Marvoir|2020-05-01T15:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-05-04T07:13:00.000Z|Marvoir|2020-05-01T17:50:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-05-01T17:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Marvoir&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Marvoir|2020-05-01T17:50:00.000Z|Marvoir|2020-05-01T15:27:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-05-04T07:13:00.000Z|Marvoir|2020-05-01T17:50:00.000Z"></span>Tiens on sort le coup du complotisme. Si effectivement Le Monde a bénéficié de subventions (et visiblement assez importantes) il n'y a pas de raison de le cacher, surtout si le donateur en fait la publicité. Ca permettra de faire taire toute rumeur venue de complotistes justement.--<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:J%27en_passe_et_des_meilleurs" title="Utilisateur:J'en passe et des meilleurs">J'en passe et des meilleurs</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:J%27en_passe_et_des_meilleurs" title="Discussion utilisateur:J'en passe et des meilleurs">discuter</a>) 4 mai 2020 à 09:13 (CEST) Et c'est même essentiel, d'un point de vue encyclopédique, ça évitera tout sourçage par ce journal d’articles wiki sur Bill Gates ou sa fondation--<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:J%27en_passe_et_des_meilleurs" title="Utilisateur:J'en passe et des meilleurs">J'en passe et des meilleurs</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:J%27en_passe_et_des_meilleurs" title="Discussion utilisateur:J'en passe et des meilleurs">discuter</a>) 4 mai 2020 à 09:18 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-05-04T07:13:00.000Z|Marvoir|2020-05-01T17:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Touam|2020-05-04T12:52:00.000Z|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-05-04T07:13:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-05-04T07:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;J'en passe et des meilleurs&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<span data-mw-comment-end="c|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-05-04T07:13:00.000Z|Marvoir|2020-05-01T17:50:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Touam|2020-05-04T12:52:00.000Z|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-05-04T07:13:00.000Z"></span>Je suppose qu'il s'agit de choses telles que <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.gatesfoundation.org/How-We-Work/Quick-Links/Grants-Database/Grants/2019/03/OPP1210145">ça</a> ? Mais c'est une source primaire sauf erreur. Je ne suis pas à priori contre, sauf qu'il faut à minima que le contributeur soit modéré et prudent dans ses propos ; "Le Monde arrosé par Bill Gates", ça n'est pas franchement le bon registre. Donc oui, ça sera reverté. Cordialement. --<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Touam" title="Utilisateur:Touam">Touam</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Touam" title="Discussion utilisateur:Touam">discuter</a>) 4 mai 2020 à 14:52 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Touam|2020-05-04T12:52:00.000Z|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-05-04T07:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-05-04T12:56:00.000Z|Touam|2020-05-04T12:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-05-04T12:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Touam&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Touam|2020-05-04T12:52:00.000Z|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-05-04T07:13:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-05-04T12:56:00.000Z|Touam|2020-05-04T12:52:00.000Z"></span>Y'a ça aussi <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.franceculture.fr/medias/la-presse-lassaut-des-philanthropes">https://www.franceculture.fr/medias/la-presse-lassaut-des-philanthropes</a>. Les sources primaires ne sont d'ailleurs pas interdites.--<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:J%27en_passe_et_des_meilleurs" title="Utilisateur:J'en passe et des meilleurs">J'en passe et des meilleurs</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:J%27en_passe_et_des_meilleurs" title="Discussion utilisateur:J'en passe et des meilleurs">discuter</a>) 4 mai 2020 à 14:56 (CEST) ou encore ça <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.latribune.fr/entreprises-finance/fortune-que-fait-bill-gates-de-tout-son-argent-593854.html--">https://www.latribune.fr/entreprises-finance/fortune-que-fait-bill-gates-de-tout-son-argent-593854.html--</a><a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:J%27en_passe_et_des_meilleurs" title="Utilisateur:J'en passe et des meilleurs">J'en passe et des meilleurs</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:J%27en_passe_et_des_meilleurs" title="Discussion utilisateur:J'en passe et des meilleurs">discuter</a>) 4 mai 2020 à 14:58 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-05-04T12:56:00.000Z|Touam|2020-05-04T12:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-05-04T12:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;J'en passe et des meilleurs&quot;}">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-05-04T12:56:00.000Z|Touam|2020-05-04T12:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Salsero35|2020-05-01T14:18:00.000Z|Marvoir|2020-05-01T13:09:00.000Z"></span>Bien supposé. Mais bien joué de la part de Marvoir : çà mange pas de pain de signaler ce fait en pdD, vu que ce contributeur estime que tous les grands journaux occidentaux sont à la solde de capitalistes financiers qui dictent la politique éditoriale de ces médias. Une des thématiques favorites des complotistes adeptes des sources alternatives dont leur activité éditoriale est, contrairement aux médias mainstream, dictée… que par le désintérêt et le goût de la vraie Vérité. Le pire, c'est que sa recherche sur ce site… ne concerne pas le journal Le Monde. Conclusion : on cherche … que ce qu'on veut chercher, et on est un POV-pusher justement parce qu'on cherche… que ce qu'on veut trouver. <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Salsero35" title="Utilisateur:Salsero35">Salsero35 </a><sup class="exposant"><big><font color="#000080"> <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Salsero35" title="Discussion utilisateur:Salsero35"><font color="#000080">☎</font></a> </font></big> </sup> 1 mai 2020 à 16:18 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Salsero35|2020-05-01T14:18:00.000Z|Marvoir|2020-05-01T13:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Marvoir|2020-05-01T15:27:00.000Z|Salsero35|2020-05-01T14:18:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-05-01T14:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Salsero35&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Salsero35|2020-05-01T14:18:00.000Z|Marvoir|2020-05-01T13:09:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Marvoir|2020-05-01T15:27:00.000Z|Salsero35|2020-05-01T14:18:00.000Z"></span>Vous dites qu'il ne s'agit pas du journal Le Monde. Je veux bien vous croire, mais pouvez-vous préciser quel est alors l'organisme appelé "Le Monde" qui a été arrosé par la Bill &amp; Melinda Gates Foundation ? <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Marvoir" class="mw-redirect" title="Utilisateur:Marvoir">Marvoir</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Marvoir" title="Discussion utilisateur:Marvoir">discuter</a>) 1 mai 2020 à 17:27 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Marvoir|2020-05-01T15:27:00.000Z|Salsero35|2020-05-01T14:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Marvoir|2020-05-01T17:50:00.000Z|Marvoir|2020-05-01T15:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-05-01T15:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Marvoir&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Marvoir|2020-05-01T15:27:00.000Z|Salsero35|2020-05-01T14:18:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Salsero35" title="Utilisateur:Salsero35"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Marvoir|2020-05-01T17:50:00.000Z|Marvoir|2020-05-01T15:27:00.000Z"></span>Salsero35 </a>, ne pourriez-vous vraiment pas répondre à ma question ? <a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Marvoir" class="mw-redirect" title="Utilisateur:Marvoir">Marvoir</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Marvoir" title="Discussion utilisateur:Marvoir">discuter</a>) 1 mai 2020 à 19:50 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Marvoir|2020-05-01T17:50:00.000Z|Marvoir|2020-05-01T15:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-05-04T07:13:00.000Z|Marvoir|2020-05-01T17:50:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-05-01T17:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Marvoir&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Marvoir|2020-05-01T17:50:00.000Z|Marvoir|2020-05-01T15:27:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-05-04T07:13:00.000Z|Marvoir|2020-05-01T17:50:00.000Z"></span>Tiens on sort le coup du complotisme. Si effectivement Le Monde a bénéficié de subventions (et visiblement assez importantes) il n'y a pas de raison de le cacher, surtout si le donateur en fait la publicité. Ca permettra de faire taire toute rumeur venue de complotistes justement.--<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:J%27en_passe_et_des_meilleurs" title="Utilisateur:J'en passe et des meilleurs">J'en passe et des meilleurs</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:J%27en_passe_et_des_meilleurs" title="Discussion utilisateur:J'en passe et des meilleurs">discuter</a>) 4 mai 2020 à 09:13 (CEST) Et c'est même essentiel, d'un point de vue encyclopédique, ça évitera tout sourçage par ce journal d’articles wiki sur Bill Gates ou sa fondation--<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:J%27en_passe_et_des_meilleurs" title="Utilisateur:J'en passe et des meilleurs">J'en passe et des meilleurs</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:J%27en_passe_et_des_meilleurs" title="Discussion utilisateur:J'en passe et des meilleurs">discuter</a>) 4 mai 2020 à 09:18 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-05-04T07:13:00.000Z|Marvoir|2020-05-01T17:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Touam|2020-05-04T12:52:00.000Z|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-05-04T07:13:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-05-04T07:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;J'en passe et des meilleurs&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<span data-mw-comment-end="c|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-05-04T07:13:00.000Z|Marvoir|2020-05-01T17:50:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Touam|2020-05-04T12:52:00.000Z|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-05-04T07:13:00.000Z"></span>Je suppose qu'il s'agit de choses telles que <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.gatesfoundation.org/How-We-Work/Quick-Links/Grants-Database/Grants/2019/03/OPP1210145">ça</a> ? Mais c'est une source primaire sauf erreur. Je ne suis pas à priori contre, sauf qu'il faut à minima que le contributeur soit modéré et prudent dans ses propos ; "Le Monde arrosé par Bill Gates", ça n'est pas franchement le bon registre. Donc oui, ça sera reverté. Cordialement. --<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Touam" title="Utilisateur:Touam">Touam</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Touam" title="Discussion utilisateur:Touam">discuter</a>) 4 mai 2020 à 14:52 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Touam|2020-05-04T12:52:00.000Z|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-05-04T07:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-05-04T12:56:00.000Z|Touam|2020-05-04T12:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-05-04T12:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Touam&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Touam|2020-05-04T12:52:00.000Z|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-05-04T07:13:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-05-04T12:56:00.000Z|Touam|2020-05-04T12:52:00.000Z"></span>Y'a ça aussi <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.franceculture.fr/medias/la-presse-lassaut-des-philanthropes">https://www.franceculture.fr/medias/la-presse-lassaut-des-philanthropes</a>. Les sources primaires ne sont d'ailleurs pas interdites.--<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:J%27en_passe_et_des_meilleurs" title="Utilisateur:J'en passe et des meilleurs">J'en passe et des meilleurs</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:J%27en_passe_et_des_meilleurs" title="Discussion utilisateur:J'en passe et des meilleurs">discuter</a>) 4 mai 2020 à 14:56 (CEST) ou encore ça <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.latribune.fr/entreprises-finance/fortune-que-fait-bill-gates-de-tout-son-argent-593854.html--">https://www.latribune.fr/entreprises-finance/fortune-que-fait-bill-gates-de-tout-son-argent-593854.html--</a><a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:J%27en_passe_et_des_meilleurs" title="Utilisateur:J'en passe et des meilleurs">J'en passe et des meilleurs</a> (<a href="//fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:J%27en_passe_et_des_meilleurs" title="Discussion utilisateur:J'en passe et des meilleurs">discuter</a>) 4 mai 2020 à 14:58 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-05-04T12:56:00.000Z|Touam|2020-05-04T12:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-05-04T12:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;J'en passe et des meilleurs&quot;}" href="">répondre</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|J'en passe et des meilleurs|2020-05-04T12:56:00.000Z|Touam|2020-05-04T12:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Biografia_di_Gino_Coletti" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Biografia_di_Gino_Coletti|2020-11-06T18:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Depoggial|2020-11-06T18:25:00.000Z|Biografia_di_Gino_Coletti&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Biografia_di_Gino_Coletti|2020-11-06T18:25:00.000Z"></span>Biografia di Gino Coletti<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Biografia_di_Gino_Coletti|2020-11-06T18:25:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Depoggial|2020-11-06T18:25:00.000Z|Biografia_di_Gino_Coletti"></span>Nella mia personale sandbox ho riscritto la biografia di Gino Coletti in quanto la prima era stata cancellata perchè ritenuta copiata. In Discusione ho richiesto un vostro parere. Per favore potete verificare.
 Vi ringrazio.
---<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Depoggial&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Depoggial (la pagina non esiste)">Depoggial</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Depoggial" title="Discussioni utente:Depoggial">msg</a>) 19:25, 6 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Depoggial|2020-11-06T18:25:00.000Z|Biografia_di_Gino_Coletti&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Depoggial|2020-11-13T21:16:00.000Z|Depoggial|2020-11-06T18:25:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-06T18:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Depoggial&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Depoggial|2020-11-06T18:25:00.000Z|Biografia_di_Gino_Coletti"></span>
+--<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Depoggial&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Depoggial (la pagina non esiste)">Depoggial</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Depoggial" title="Discussioni utente:Depoggial">msg</a>) 19:25, 6 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Depoggial|2020-11-06T18:25:00.000Z|Biografia_di_Gino_Coletti&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Depoggial|2020-11-13T21:16:00.000Z|Depoggial|2020-11-06T18:25:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-06T18:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Depoggial&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Depoggial|2020-11-06T18:25:00.000Z|Biografia_di_Gino_Coletti"></span>
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 <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Depoggial|2020-11-13T21:16:00.000Z|Depoggial|2020-11-06T18:25:00.000Z"></span>Se serve faccio presente che la mia utenza è: depoggial/sandbox</dd>
-<dd>--<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Depoggial&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Depoggial (la pagina non esiste)">Depoggial</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Depoggial" title="Discussioni utente:Depoggial">msg</a>) 22:16, 13 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Depoggial|2020-11-13T21:16:00.000Z|Depoggial|2020-11-06T18:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-13T21:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Depoggial&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Depoggial|2020-11-13T21:16:00.000Z|Depoggial|2020-11-06T18:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dd>--<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Depoggial&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Depoggial (la pagina non esiste)">Depoggial</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Depoggial" title="Discussioni utente:Depoggial">msg</a>) 22:16, 13 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Depoggial|2020-11-13T21:16:00.000Z|Depoggial|2020-11-06T18:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-13T21:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Depoggial&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Depoggial|2020-11-13T21:16:00.000Z|Depoggial|2020-11-06T18:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id="Salvare_anteprima_pagina_senza_pubblicarla_-_Componenti_standard_per_macchine.2FSandbox"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Salvare_anteprima_pagina_senza_pubblicarla_-_Componenti_standard_per_macchine/Sandbox" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Salvare_anteprima_pagina_senza_pubblicarla_-_Componenti_standard_per_macchine\/Sa|2020-11-13T07:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Componenti standard per macchine|2020-11-13T07:33:00.000Z|Salvare_anteprima_pagina_senza_pubblicarla_-_Componenti_standard_per_macchine\/Sa&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Salvare_anteprima_pagina_senza_pubblicarla_-_Componenti_standard_per_macchine/Sa|2020-11-13T07:33:00.000Z"></span>Salvare anteprima pagina senza pubblicarla - Componenti standard per macchine/Sandbox<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Salvare_anteprima_pagina_senza_pubblicarla_-_Componenti_standard_per_macchine/Sa|2020-11-13T07:33:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Componenti standard per macchine|2020-11-13T07:33:00.000Z|Salvare_anteprima_pagina_senza_pubblicarla_-_Componenti_standard_per_macchine/Sa"></span>Ciao, sto usando per la prima volta Wikipedia e ho creato una pagina aziendale. Ho scritto tutto il contenuto nella pagina di prova, ma prima di pubblicarla vorrei salvarla e inoltrare il link al Manager. Come posso fare? non vedo pulsanti "salva", ma solo "pubblica"
-grazie mille <small>— <i>Questo commento senza la <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Firma" title="Aiuto:Firma">firma utente</a> è stato inserito da <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Componenti_standard_per_macchine&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Componenti standard per macchine (la pagina non esiste)">Componenti standard per macchine</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussioni_utente:Componenti_standard_per_macchine&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Discussioni utente:Componenti standard per macchine (la pagina non esiste)">discussioni</a> · <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/Componenti_standard_per_macchine" title="Speciale:Contributi/Componenti standard per macchine">contributi</a>) 08:33, 13 nov 2020 (CET)</i>.</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Componenti standard per macchine|2020-11-13T07:33:00.000Z|Salvare_anteprima_pagina_senza_pubblicarla_-_Componenti_standard_per_macchine\/Sa&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-13T07:36:00.000Z|Componenti standard per macchine|2020-11-13T07:33:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-13T07:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Componenti standard per macchine&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Componenti standard per macchine|2020-11-13T07:33:00.000Z|Salvare_anteprima_pagina_senza_pubblicarla_-_Componenti_standard_per_macchine/Sa"></span>
+grazie mille <small>— <i>Questo commento senza la <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Firma" title="Aiuto:Firma">firma utente</a> è stato inserito da <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Componenti_standard_per_macchine&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Componenti standard per macchine (la pagina non esiste)">Componenti standard per macchine</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussioni_utente:Componenti_standard_per_macchine&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Discussioni utente:Componenti standard per macchine (la pagina non esiste)">discussioni</a> · <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/Componenti_standard_per_macchine" title="Speciale:Contributi/Componenti standard per macchine">contributi</a>) 08:33, 13 nov 2020 (CET)</i>.</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Componenti standard per macchine|2020-11-13T07:33:00.000Z|Salvare_anteprima_pagina_senza_pubblicarla_-_Componenti_standard_per_macchine\/Sa&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-13T07:36:00.000Z|Componenti standard per macchine|2020-11-13T07:33:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-13T07:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Componenti standard per macchine&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Componenti standard per macchine|2020-11-13T07:33:00.000Z|Salvare_anteprima_pagina_senza_pubblicarla_-_Componenti_standard_per_macchine/Sa"></span>
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-<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-13T07:36:00.000Z|Componenti standard per macchine|2020-11-13T07:33:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Componenti_standard_per_macchine&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Componenti standard per macchine (la pagina non esiste)">Componenti standard per macchine</a>]</b></small> il pulsante "Pubblica" è proprio quello che va premuto--<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;text-shadow:1px 1px 1px purple"><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:ValeJappo" title="Utente:ValeJappo"><span style="color:white">Val<span style="color:red">eJa</span>ppo</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:ValeJappo" title="Discussioni utente:ValeJappo"><small style="color:red">【〒】</small></a></span> 08:36, 13 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-13T07:36:00.000Z|Componenti standard per macchine|2020-11-13T07:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|87.9.146.3|2020-11-13T10:19:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-13T07:36:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-13T07:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ValeJappo&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-13T07:36:00.000Z|Componenti standard per macchine|2020-11-13T07:33:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-13T07:36:00.000Z|Componenti standard per macchine|2020-11-13T07:33:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Componenti_standard_per_macchine&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Componenti standard per macchine (la pagina non esiste)">Componenti standard per macchine</a>]</b></small> il pulsante "Pubblica" è proprio quello che va premuto--<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;text-shadow:1px 1px 1px purple"><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:ValeJappo" title="Utente:ValeJappo"><span style="color:white">Val<span style="color:red">eJa</span>ppo</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:ValeJappo" title="Discussioni utente:ValeJappo"><small style="color:red">【〒】</small></a></span> 08:36, 13 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-13T07:36:00.000Z|Componenti standard per macchine|2020-11-13T07:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|87.9.146.3|2020-11-13T10:19:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-13T07:36:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-13T07:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ValeJappo&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-13T07:36:00.000Z|Componenti standard per macchine|2020-11-13T07:33:00.000Z"></span>
 <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|87.9.146.3|2020-11-13T10:19:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-13T07:36:00.000Z"></span>Con pubblica verrà salvata, anche se non nell'enciclopedia vera e propria ma nella pagina di prova, sarà comunque a visibile a tutti.</dd>
-<dd>In Wikipedia non esistono "manager". O intendi il manager dell'azienda in questione? Consiglio lettura di <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Autobiografie" title="Wikipedia:Autobiografie">Wikipedia:Autobiografie</a>, <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Avvertenze_sulla_contribuzione_su_commissione" title="Wikipedia:Avvertenze sulla contribuzione su commissione">Wikipedia:Avvertenze sulla contribuzione su commissione</a>, <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Nome_utente#_Nomi_utente_inappropriati_(NUI)" title="Aiuto:Nome utente">Aiuto:Nome utente# Nomi utente inappropriati (NUI)</a> (e <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Firma" title="Aiuto:Firma">Aiuto:Firma</a>). --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/87.9.146.3" title="Speciale:Contributi/87.9.146.3">87.9.146.3</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:87.9.146.3" title="Discussioni utente:87.9.146.3">msg</a>) 11:19, 13 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|87.9.146.3|2020-11-13T10:19:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-13T07:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-13T10:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;87.9.146.3&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|87.9.146.3|2020-11-13T10:19:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-13T07:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dd>In Wikipedia non esistono "manager". O intendi il manager dell'azienda in questione? Consiglio lettura di <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Autobiografie" title="Wikipedia:Autobiografie">Wikipedia:Autobiografie</a>, <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Avvertenze_sulla_contribuzione_su_commissione" title="Wikipedia:Avvertenze sulla contribuzione su commissione">Wikipedia:Avvertenze sulla contribuzione su commissione</a>, <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Nome_utente#_Nomi_utente_inappropriati_(NUI)" title="Aiuto:Nome utente">Aiuto:Nome utente# Nomi utente inappropriati (NUI)</a> (e <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Firma" title="Aiuto:Firma">Aiuto:Firma</a>). --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/87.9.146.3" title="Speciale:Contributi/87.9.146.3">87.9.146.3</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:87.9.146.3" title="Discussioni utente:87.9.146.3">msg</a>) 11:19, 13 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|87.9.146.3|2020-11-13T10:19:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-13T07:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-13T10:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;87.9.146.3&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|87.9.146.3|2020-11-13T10:19:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-13T07:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Vorrei_cambiare_ed_aggiungere_foto_sulla_mia_pagina" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Vorrei_cambiare_ed_aggiungere_foto_sulla_mia_pagina|2020-11-13T11:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Giuliano Caputi|2020-11-13T11:28:00.000Z|Vorrei_cambiare_ed_aggiungere_foto_sulla_mia_pagina&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Vorrei_cambiare_ed_aggiungere_foto_sulla_mia_pagina|2020-11-13T11:28:00.000Z"></span>Vorrei cambiare ed aggiungere foto sulla mia pagina<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Vorrei_cambiare_ed_aggiungere_foto_sulla_mia_pagina|2020-11-13T11:28:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Giuliano Caputi|2020-11-13T11:28:00.000Z|Vorrei_cambiare_ed_aggiungere_foto_sulla_mia_pagina"></span>Buongiorno! Sto cercando di cambiare una foto della mia pagina, ma wikipedia non me lo permette perché non abilitato. Cosa devo fare per esserlo?<small>— <i>Questo commento senza la <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Firma" title="Aiuto:Firma">firma utente</a> è stato inserito da <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Giuliano_Caputi&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Giuliano Caputi (la pagina non esiste)">Giuliano Caputi</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Giuliano_Caputi" title="Discussioni utente:Giuliano Caputi">discussioni</a> · <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/Giuliano_Caputi" title="Speciale:Contributi/Giuliano Caputi">contributi</a>) 12:28, 13 nov 2020 (CET)</i>.</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Giuliano Caputi|2020-11-13T11:28:00.000Z|Vorrei_cambiare_ed_aggiungere_foto_sulla_mia_pagina&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Enzo Encius|2020-11-14T14:45:00.000Z|Giuliano Caputi|2020-11-13T11:28:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-13T11:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Giuliano Caputi&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Giuliano Caputi|2020-11-13T11:28:00.000Z|Vorrei_cambiare_ed_aggiungere_foto_sulla_mia_pagina"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Giuliano Caputi|2020-11-13T11:28:00.000Z|Vorrei_cambiare_ed_aggiungere_foto_sulla_mia_pagina"></span>Buongiorno! Sto cercando di cambiare una foto della mia pagina, ma wikipedia non me lo permette perché non abilitato. Cosa devo fare per esserlo?<small>— <i>Questo commento senza la <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Firma" title="Aiuto:Firma">firma utente</a> è stato inserito da <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Giuliano_Caputi&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Giuliano Caputi (la pagina non esiste)">Giuliano Caputi</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Giuliano_Caputi" title="Discussioni utente:Giuliano Caputi">discussioni</a> · <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/Giuliano_Caputi" title="Speciale:Contributi/Giuliano Caputi">contributi</a>) 12:28, 13 nov 2020 (CET)</i>.</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Giuliano Caputi|2020-11-13T11:28:00.000Z|Vorrei_cambiare_ed_aggiungere_foto_sulla_mia_pagina&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Enzo Encius|2020-11-14T14:45:00.000Z|Giuliano Caputi|2020-11-13T11:28:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-13T11:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Giuliano Caputi&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Giuliano Caputi|2020-11-13T11:28:00.000Z|Vorrei_cambiare_ed_aggiungere_foto_sulla_mia_pagina"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Enzo Encius|2020-11-14T14:45:00.000Z|Giuliano Caputi|2020-11-13T11:28:00.000Z"></span>Dalle tue modifiche alla pagina a me pare tu sia stato perfettamente in grado di farlo; è stato <small><b>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Ap7189ap" title="Utente:Ap7189ap">Ap7189ap</a>]</b></small> a spostare l'immagine nel parametro apposito del Template {{<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Bio" title="Template:Bio">Bio</a>}}. Puoi regolare le dimensioni anche così.--<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC"><b><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Enzo_Encius" title="Utente:Enzo Encius"><span style="color:red">Enzo</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Enzo_Encius" title="Discussioni utente:Enzo Encius"><span style="color:blue">Encius</span></a></b></span> 15:45, 14 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Enzo Encius|2020-11-14T14:45:00.000Z|Giuliano Caputi|2020-11-13T11:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Enzo Encius|2020-11-14T14:46:00.000Z|Enzo Encius|2020-11-14T14:45:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-14T14:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Enzo Encius&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Enzo Encius|2020-11-14T14:45:00.000Z|Giuliano Caputi|2020-11-13T11:28:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Enzo Encius|2020-11-14T14:46:00.000Z|Enzo Encius|2020-11-14T14:45:00.000Z"></span>Per farlo esiste lo specifico parametro <code>|DimImmagine = </code>.--<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC"><b><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Enzo_Encius" title="Utente:Enzo Encius"><span style="color:red">Enzo</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Enzo_Encius" title="Discussioni utente:Enzo Encius"><span style="color:blue">Encius</span></a></b></span> 15:46, 14 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Enzo Encius|2020-11-14T14:46:00.000Z|Enzo Encius|2020-11-14T14:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-14T14:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Enzo Encius&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Enzo Encius|2020-11-14T14:46:00.000Z|Enzo Encius|2020-11-14T14:45:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Enzo Encius|2020-11-14T14:45:00.000Z|Giuliano Caputi|2020-11-13T11:28:00.000Z"></span>Dalle tue modifiche alla pagina a me pare tu sia stato perfettamente in grado di farlo; è stato <small><b>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Ap7189ap" title="Utente:Ap7189ap">Ap7189ap</a>]</b></small> a spostare l'immagine nel parametro apposito del Template {{<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Bio" title="Template:Bio">Bio</a>}}. Puoi regolare le dimensioni anche così.--<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC"><b><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Enzo_Encius" title="Utente:Enzo Encius"><span style="color:red">Enzo</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Enzo_Encius" title="Discussioni utente:Enzo Encius"><span style="color:blue">Encius</span></a></b></span> 15:45, 14 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Enzo Encius|2020-11-14T14:45:00.000Z|Giuliano Caputi|2020-11-13T11:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Enzo Encius|2020-11-14T14:46:00.000Z|Enzo Encius|2020-11-14T14:45:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-14T14:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Enzo Encius&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Enzo Encius|2020-11-14T14:45:00.000Z|Giuliano Caputi|2020-11-13T11:28:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Enzo Encius|2020-11-14T14:46:00.000Z|Enzo Encius|2020-11-14T14:45:00.000Z"></span>Per farlo esiste lo specifico parametro <code>|DimImmagine = </code>.--<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC"><b><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Enzo_Encius" title="Utente:Enzo Encius"><span style="color:red">Enzo</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Enzo_Encius" title="Discussioni utente:Enzo Encius"><span style="color:blue">Encius</span></a></b></span> 15:46, 14 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Enzo Encius|2020-11-14T14:46:00.000Z|Enzo Encius|2020-11-14T14:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-14T14:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Enzo Encius&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Enzo Encius|2020-11-14T14:46:00.000Z|Enzo Encius|2020-11-14T14:45:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="voce_riguardante_un_centro_abitato" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|voce_riguardante_un_centro_abitato|2020-11-14T18:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|87.9.146.3|2020-11-14T18:32:00.000Z|voce_riguardante_un_centro_abitato&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|voce_riguardante_un_centro_abitato|2020-11-14T18:32:00.000Z"></span>voce riguardante un centro abitato<span data-mw-comment-end="h|voce_riguardante_un_centro_abitato|2020-11-14T18:32:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|87.9.146.3|2020-11-14T18:32:00.000Z|voce_riguardante_un_centro_abitato"></span>Salve,
 devo inserire nella voce Roccalvecce informazioni che riguardano tale centro abitato, frazione del comune di Vierbo. Vorrei strutturare la pagina come quella dei centri abitati con una finestra laterale con le info riguardanti abitanti, altitudine etcc... ed una finestra cin l'indice. Come devo fare? <small>— <i>Questo commento senza la <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Firma" title="Aiuto:Firma">firma utente</a> è stato inserito da <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Maurizioneri&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Maurizioneri (la pagina non esiste)">Maurizioneri</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Maurizioneri" title="Discussioni utente:Maurizioneri">discussioni</a> · <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/Maurizioneri" title="Speciale:Contributi/Maurizioneri">contributi</a>) 14 nov 2020 (CET)</i>.</small>
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 <dl><dd>In <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Modello_di_voce/Centro_abitato" title="Wikipedia:Modello di voce/Centro abitato">Wikipedia:Modello di voce/Centro abitato</a> trovi alcune informazioni.</dd>
-<dd>Per il riquadro in alto a destra con le informazioni, vedi <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Template_sinottici" title="Aiuto:Template sinottici">Aiuto:Template sinottici</a> e <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Divisione_amministrativa" title="Template:Divisione amministrativa">Template:Divisione amministrativa</a>. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/87.9.146.3" title="Speciale:Contributi/87.9.146.3">87.9.146.3</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:87.9.146.3" title="Discussioni utente:87.9.146.3">msg</a>) 19:32, 14 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|87.9.146.3|2020-11-14T18:32:00.000Z|voce_riguardante_un_centro_abitato&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-14T18:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;87.9.146.3&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|87.9.146.3|2020-11-14T18:32:00.000Z|voce_riguardante_un_centro_abitato"></span></dd></dl>
+<dd>Per il riquadro in alto a destra con le informazioni, vedi <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Template_sinottici" title="Aiuto:Template sinottici">Aiuto:Template sinottici</a> e <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Divisione_amministrativa" title="Template:Divisione amministrativa">Template:Divisione amministrativa</a>. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/87.9.146.3" title="Speciale:Contributi/87.9.146.3">87.9.146.3</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:87.9.146.3" title="Discussioni utente:87.9.146.3">msg</a>) 19:32, 14 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|87.9.146.3|2020-11-14T18:32:00.000Z|voce_riguardante_un_centro_abitato&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-14T18:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;87.9.146.3&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|87.9.146.3|2020-11-14T18:32:00.000Z|voce_riguardante_un_centro_abitato"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Creare_pagina_di_uno_scrittore_argentino" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Creare_pagina_di_uno_scrittore_argentino|2020-11-14T19:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|AstrolabioD|2020-11-14T19:52:00.000Z|Creare_pagina_di_uno_scrittore_argentino&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Creare_pagina_di_uno_scrittore_argentino|2020-11-14T19:52:00.000Z"></span>Creare pagina di uno scrittore argentino<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Creare_pagina_di_uno_scrittore_argentino|2020-11-14T19:52:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|AstrolabioD|2020-11-14T19:52:00.000Z|Creare_pagina_di_uno_scrittore_argentino"></span>Buonasera a tutti, scrivo per chiedere aiuto per creare la pagina in italiano di uno scrittore argentino (<a class="external free" href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germán_García">https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germán_García</a>)
 </p><p>Ho cominciato a scrivere una bozza Utente:AstrolabioD/Sandbox seguendo il tour guidato ma non riesco ad andare avanti. Vorrei sapere come farlo prima di continuare a introdurre informazione. Grazie
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+--<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:AstrolabioD" title="Utente:AstrolabioD">AstrolabioD</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:AstrolabioD" title="Discussioni utente:AstrolabioD">msg</a>) 20:52, 14 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|AstrolabioD|2020-11-14T19:52:00.000Z|Creare_pagina_di_uno_scrittore_argentino&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Mtarch11|2020-11-15T11:35:00.000Z|AstrolabioD|2020-11-14T19:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-14T19:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;AstrolabioD&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|AstrolabioD|2020-11-14T19:52:00.000Z|Creare_pagina_di_uno_scrittore_argentino"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Mtarch11|2020-11-15T11:35:00.000Z|AstrolabioD|2020-11-14T19:52:00.000Z"></span>Ciao <small><b>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:AstrolabioD" title="Utente:AstrolabioD">AstrolabioD</a>]</b></small>, nella tua sandbox puoi lavorare quanto e come vuoi, senza fretta! Puoi dare un'occhiata alle <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Convenzioni_di_stile/Biografie" title="Wikipedia:Convenzioni di stile/Biografie">convenzioni di stile</a> relative alle biografie e - in caso di traduzione - puoi utilizzare anche <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Content_Translation" title="Aiuto:Content Translation">Content translation</a>, che è uno strumento utile per tradurre voci da altre versioni linguistiche di Wikipedia, da utilizzare seguendo quanto indicato su <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:TRADURRE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TRADURRE">WP:TRADURRE</a>. Detto ciò, ti invito a leggere <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:TUTOR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TUTOR">questa pagina</a>, dove - qualora le spiegazioni non fossero sufficienti - puoi richiedere direttamente un tutor. Per qualsiasi altro chiarimento e/o informazione non esitare a scrivermi <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Mtarch11" title="Discussioni utente:Mtarch11">cliccando qui</a>. Grazie! --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Mtarch11" title="Utente:Mtarch11">Mtarch11</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Mtarch11" title="Discussioni utente:Mtarch11">msg</a>) 12:35, 15 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mtarch11|2020-11-15T11:35:00.000Z|AstrolabioD|2020-11-14T19:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-15T11:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mtarch11&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Mtarch11|2020-11-15T11:35:00.000Z|AstrolabioD|2020-11-14T19:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Mtarch11|2020-11-15T11:35:00.000Z|AstrolabioD|2020-11-14T19:52:00.000Z"></span>Ciao <small><b>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:AstrolabioD" title="Utente:AstrolabioD">AstrolabioD</a>]</b></small>, nella tua sandbox puoi lavorare quanto e come vuoi, senza fretta! Puoi dare un'occhiata alle <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Convenzioni_di_stile/Biografie" title="Wikipedia:Convenzioni di stile/Biografie">convenzioni di stile</a> relative alle biografie e - in caso di traduzione - puoi utilizzare anche <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Content_Translation" title="Aiuto:Content Translation">Content translation</a>, che è uno strumento utile per tradurre voci da altre versioni linguistiche di Wikipedia, da utilizzare seguendo quanto indicato su <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:TRADURRE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TRADURRE">WP:TRADURRE</a>. Detto ciò, ti invito a leggere <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:TUTOR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TUTOR">questa pagina</a>, dove - qualora le spiegazioni non fossero sufficienti - puoi richiedere direttamente un tutor. Per qualsiasi altro chiarimento e/o informazione non esitare a scrivermi <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Mtarch11" title="Discussioni utente:Mtarch11">cliccando qui</a>. Grazie! --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Mtarch11" title="Utente:Mtarch11">Mtarch11</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Mtarch11" title="Discussioni utente:Mtarch11">msg</a>) 12:35, 15 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mtarch11|2020-11-15T11:35:00.000Z|AstrolabioD|2020-11-14T19:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-15T11:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mtarch11&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Mtarch11|2020-11-15T11:35:00.000Z|AstrolabioD|2020-11-14T19:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id="Assenza_del_tasto_.22sposta.22_dalla_mia_sandbox"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Assenza_del_tasto_&quot;sposta&quot;_dalla_mia_sandbox" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Assenza_del_tasto_\&quot;sposta\&quot;_dalla_mia_sandbox|2020-11-16T13:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Mamasaura|2020-11-16T13:38:00.000Z|Assenza_del_tasto_\&quot;sposta\&quot;_dalla_mia_sandbox&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Assenza_del_tasto_&quot;sposta&quot;_dalla_mia_sandbox|2020-11-16T13:38:00.000Z"></span>Assenza del tasto "sposta" dalla mia sandbox<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Assenza_del_tasto_&quot;sposta&quot;_dalla_mia_sandbox|2020-11-16T13:38:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Mamasaura|2020-11-16T13:38:00.000Z|Assenza_del_tasto_&quot;sposta&quot;_dalla_mia_sandbox"></span>Salve, sto tentando di pubblicare una nuova voce su Wikipedia, trattasi di una biografia. 
 Il tasto "sposta" non compare nella mia sandbox nonostate abbia effettuato il login da più di quattro giorni e abbia effettuato le dieci modifiche richieste. Come procedere? Dove sto sbagliando?
---<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Mamasaura&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Mamasaura (la pagina non esiste)">Mamasaura</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussioni_utente:Mamasaura&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Discussioni utente:Mamasaura (la pagina non esiste)">msg</a>) 14:38, 16 nov 2020 (CET) Mamasaura<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mamasaura|2020-11-16T13:38:00.000Z|Assenza_del_tasto_\&quot;sposta\&quot;_dalla_mia_sandbox&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T14:33:00.000Z|Mamasaura|2020-11-16T13:38:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-16T13:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mamasaura&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Mamasaura|2020-11-16T13:38:00.000Z|Assenza_del_tasto_&quot;sposta&quot;_dalla_mia_sandbox"></span>
+--<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Mamasaura&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Mamasaura (la pagina non esiste)">Mamasaura</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussioni_utente:Mamasaura&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Discussioni utente:Mamasaura (la pagina non esiste)">msg</a>) 14:38, 16 nov 2020 (CET) Mamasaura<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mamasaura|2020-11-16T13:38:00.000Z|Assenza_del_tasto_\&quot;sposta\&quot;_dalla_mia_sandbox&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T14:33:00.000Z|Mamasaura|2020-11-16T13:38:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-16T13:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mamasaura&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Mamasaura|2020-11-16T13:38:00.000Z|Assenza_del_tasto_&quot;sposta&quot;_dalla_mia_sandbox"></span>
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 <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T14:33:00.000Z|Mamasaura|2020-11-16T13:38:00.000Z"></span>Ciao e benvenuto/a su wikipedia. E' possibile che tu abbia bisogno di aggiornare la pagina o di chiudere e riaprire il browser affinchè il tastino ti appaia. Io però non avrei così fretta a pubblicare la pagina, perchè allo stato attuale la tua sandbox presenta diversi problemi ed è possibile che - se pubblicata nell'enciclopedia vera e propria - venga subito cancellata.</dd>
 <dd>In primis infatti la voce manca completamente di fonti, ossia dell'indicazione di dove hai preso le informazioni che hai scritto e di fonti terze che confermino l'enciclopedicità del soggetto della biografia.</dd>
 <dd>La voce non è poi formattata secondo lo stile di wikipedia : ci sono diversi grassetti che non vanno bene, manca il template bio, l'elenco delle opere non è formattato e il paragrafo "pensiero" sembra essere interamente composto da una citazione letterale di Antonia Colamonico, troppo lunga per poter essere considerata una breve citazione e quindi in violazione di copyright.</dd></dl>
-<dl><dd>Io ti consiglierei di sistemare ancora un po' la voce, soprattutto aggiungendo la provenienza delle informazioni e fonti terze che confermino l'enciclopedicità, oltre a togliere la parte in violazione di copyright --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Postcrosser" title="Utente:Postcrosser">Postcrosser</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Postcrosser" title="Discussioni utente:Postcrosser">msg</a>) 15:33, 16 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T14:33:00.000Z|Mamasaura|2020-11-16T13:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ap7189ap|2020-11-16T14:46:00.000Z|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T14:33:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-16T14:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Postcrosser&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T14:33:00.000Z|Mamasaura|2020-11-16T13:38:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ap7189ap|2020-11-16T14:46:00.000Z|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T14:33:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Postcrosser" title="Utente:Postcrosser">Postcrosser</a>]</b></small> l'utente non è ancora <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Livelli_di_accesso_degli_utenti#Utenti_autoconvalidati" title="Wikipedia:Livelli di accesso degli utenti">autoconvalidato</a>, per quello non può effettuare spostamenti, ciao --<b><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Ap7189ap" title="Utente:Ap7189ap"><span style="color:#FF1000">Ap7189</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Ap7189ap" title="Discussioni utente:Ap7189ap"><span style="color:#FFBA00">ap</span></a></b> 15:46, 16 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ap7189ap|2020-11-16T14:46:00.000Z|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T14:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T15:14:00.000Z|Ap7189ap|2020-11-16T14:46:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-16T14:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ap7189ap&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ap7189ap|2020-11-16T14:46:00.000Z|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T14:33:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T15:14:00.000Z|Ap7189ap|2020-11-16T14:46:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Ap7189ap" title="Utente:Ap7189ap">Ap7189ap</a>]</b></small> Però è effettivamente iscritto da oltre 4 giorni e ha fatto più di 10 edit (6 e 12 rispettivamente). Sono cambiate le regole per diventare autoconvalidati? --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Postcrosser" title="Utente:Postcrosser">Postcrosser</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Postcrosser" title="Discussioni utente:Postcrosser">msg</a>) 16:14, 16 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T15:14:00.000Z|Ap7189ap|2020-11-16T14:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Agilix|2020-11-16T15:30:00.000Z|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T15:14:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-16T15:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Postcrosser&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T15:14:00.000Z|Ap7189ap|2020-11-16T14:46:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Agilix|2020-11-16T15:30:00.000Z|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T15:14:00.000Z"></span>I criteri sono stati modificati a 50 edit e 7 giorni, a partire dal 14 settembre 2020, come si legge in <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Utenti_autoconvalidati" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Utenti autoconvalidati">WP:Utenti autoconvalidati</a>. Perciò <small><b>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Mamasaura&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Mamasaura (la pagina non esiste)">Mamasaura</a>]</b></small>, non sei ancora autoconvalidato e non puoi effettuare spostamenti. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Agilix" title="Utente:Agilix"><i><b>Agilix</b></i></a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Agilix" title="Discussioni utente:Agilix">msg</a>) 16:30, 16 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Agilix|2020-11-16T15:30:00.000Z|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T15:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ap7189ap|2020-11-16T15:50:00.000Z|Agilix|2020-11-16T15:30:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-16T15:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Agilix&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Agilix|2020-11-16T15:30:00.000Z|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T15:14:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ap7189ap|2020-11-16T15:50:00.000Z|Agilix|2020-11-16T15:30:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Postcrosser" title="Utente:Postcrosser">Postcrosser</a>]</b></small> Sono cambiati in seguito a <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:LinkPermanente/115478782#Riassumo_(2)" title="Speciale:LinkPermanente/115478782">questa discussione</a>, <small><b>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Mamasaura&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Mamasaura (la pagina non esiste)">Mamasaura</a>]</b></small> puoi usare il {{<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Sposta" title="Template:Sposta">Sposta</a>}}, poi qualcuno si occuperà di spostare la voce--<b><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Ap7189ap" title="Utente:Ap7189ap"><span style="color:#FF1000">Ap7189</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Ap7189ap" title="Discussioni utente:Ap7189ap"><span style="color:#FFBA00">ap</span></a></b> 16:50, 16 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ap7189ap|2020-11-16T15:50:00.000Z|Agilix|2020-11-16T15:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Postcrosser|2020-11-17T10:09:00.000Z|Ap7189ap|2020-11-16T15:50:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-16T15:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ap7189ap&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ap7189ap|2020-11-16T15:50:00.000Z|Agilix|2020-11-16T15:30:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Postcrosser|2020-11-17T10:09:00.000Z|Ap7189ap|2020-11-16T15:50:00.000Z"></span>Mi era sfuggito l'aggiornamento dei requisiti, grazie del chiarimento. Resta comunque il mio consiglio a mammasaura di lavorare ancora un po' sulla voce, perchè allo stato attuale rischia di essere cancellata immediatamente se spostata nell'enciclopedia. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Postcrosser" title="Utente:Postcrosser">Postcrosser</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Postcrosser" title="Discussioni utente:Postcrosser">msg</a>) 11:09, 17 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Postcrosser|2020-11-17T10:09:00.000Z|Ap7189ap|2020-11-16T15:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-17T10:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Postcrosser&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Postcrosser|2020-11-17T10:09:00.000Z|Ap7189ap|2020-11-16T15:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd>Io ti consiglierei di sistemare ancora un po' la voce, soprattutto aggiungendo la provenienza delle informazioni e fonti terze che confermino l'enciclopedicità, oltre a togliere la parte in violazione di copyright --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Postcrosser" title="Utente:Postcrosser">Postcrosser</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Postcrosser" title="Discussioni utente:Postcrosser">msg</a>) 15:33, 16 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T14:33:00.000Z|Mamasaura|2020-11-16T13:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ap7189ap|2020-11-16T14:46:00.000Z|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T14:33:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-16T14:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Postcrosser&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T14:33:00.000Z|Mamasaura|2020-11-16T13:38:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ap7189ap|2020-11-16T14:46:00.000Z|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T14:33:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Postcrosser" title="Utente:Postcrosser">Postcrosser</a>]</b></small> l'utente non è ancora <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Livelli_di_accesso_degli_utenti#Utenti_autoconvalidati" title="Wikipedia:Livelli di accesso degli utenti">autoconvalidato</a>, per quello non può effettuare spostamenti, ciao --<b><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Ap7189ap" title="Utente:Ap7189ap"><span style="color:#FF1000">Ap7189</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Ap7189ap" title="Discussioni utente:Ap7189ap"><span style="color:#FFBA00">ap</span></a></b> 15:46, 16 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ap7189ap|2020-11-16T14:46:00.000Z|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T14:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T15:14:00.000Z|Ap7189ap|2020-11-16T14:46:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-16T14:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ap7189ap&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ap7189ap|2020-11-16T14:46:00.000Z|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T14:33:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T15:14:00.000Z|Ap7189ap|2020-11-16T14:46:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Ap7189ap" title="Utente:Ap7189ap">Ap7189ap</a>]</b></small> Però è effettivamente iscritto da oltre 4 giorni e ha fatto più di 10 edit (6 e 12 rispettivamente). Sono cambiate le regole per diventare autoconvalidati? --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Postcrosser" title="Utente:Postcrosser">Postcrosser</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Postcrosser" title="Discussioni utente:Postcrosser">msg</a>) 16:14, 16 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T15:14:00.000Z|Ap7189ap|2020-11-16T14:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Agilix|2020-11-16T15:30:00.000Z|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T15:14:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-16T15:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Postcrosser&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T15:14:00.000Z|Ap7189ap|2020-11-16T14:46:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Agilix|2020-11-16T15:30:00.000Z|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T15:14:00.000Z"></span>I criteri sono stati modificati a 50 edit e 7 giorni, a partire dal 14 settembre 2020, come si legge in <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Utenti_autoconvalidati" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Utenti autoconvalidati">WP:Utenti autoconvalidati</a>. Perciò <small><b>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Mamasaura&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Mamasaura (la pagina non esiste)">Mamasaura</a>]</b></small>, non sei ancora autoconvalidato e non puoi effettuare spostamenti. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Agilix" title="Utente:Agilix"><i><b>Agilix</b></i></a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Agilix" title="Discussioni utente:Agilix">msg</a>) 16:30, 16 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Agilix|2020-11-16T15:30:00.000Z|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T15:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ap7189ap|2020-11-16T15:50:00.000Z|Agilix|2020-11-16T15:30:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-16T15:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Agilix&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Agilix|2020-11-16T15:30:00.000Z|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T15:14:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ap7189ap|2020-11-16T15:50:00.000Z|Agilix|2020-11-16T15:30:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Postcrosser" title="Utente:Postcrosser">Postcrosser</a>]</b></small> Sono cambiati in seguito a <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:LinkPermanente/115478782#Riassumo_(2)" title="Speciale:LinkPermanente/115478782">questa discussione</a>, <small><b>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Mamasaura&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Mamasaura (la pagina non esiste)">Mamasaura</a>]</b></small> puoi usare il {{<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Sposta" title="Template:Sposta">Sposta</a>}}, poi qualcuno si occuperà di spostare la voce--<b><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Ap7189ap" title="Utente:Ap7189ap"><span style="color:#FF1000">Ap7189</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Ap7189ap" title="Discussioni utente:Ap7189ap"><span style="color:#FFBA00">ap</span></a></b> 16:50, 16 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ap7189ap|2020-11-16T15:50:00.000Z|Agilix|2020-11-16T15:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Postcrosser|2020-11-17T10:09:00.000Z|Ap7189ap|2020-11-16T15:50:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-16T15:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ap7189ap&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ap7189ap|2020-11-16T15:50:00.000Z|Agilix|2020-11-16T15:30:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Postcrosser|2020-11-17T10:09:00.000Z|Ap7189ap|2020-11-16T15:50:00.000Z"></span>Mi era sfuggito l'aggiornamento dei requisiti, grazie del chiarimento. Resta comunque il mio consiglio a mammasaura di lavorare ancora un po' sulla voce, perchè allo stato attuale rischia di essere cancellata immediatamente se spostata nell'enciclopedia. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Postcrosser" title="Utente:Postcrosser">Postcrosser</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Postcrosser" title="Discussioni utente:Postcrosser">msg</a>) 11:09, 17 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Postcrosser|2020-11-17T10:09:00.000Z|Ap7189ap|2020-11-16T15:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-17T10:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Postcrosser&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Postcrosser|2020-11-17T10:09:00.000Z|Ap7189ap|2020-11-16T15:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id="Tunja_voce_della_citt.C3.A0_della_Colombia"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Tunja_voce_della_città_della_Colombia" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Tunja_voce_della_citt\u00e0_della_Colombia|2020-11-16T18:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|151.33.155.240|2020-11-16T18:04:00.000Z|Tunja_voce_della_citt\u00e0_della_Colombia&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Tunja_voce_della_città_della_Colombia|2020-11-16T18:04:00.000Z"></span>Tunja voce della città della Colombia<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Tunja_voce_della_città_della_Colombia|2020-11-16T18:04:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|151.33.155.240|2020-11-16T18:04:00.000Z|Tunja_voce_della_città_della_Colombia"></span>Ho consultato la voce Tunja (città della Colombia) su Wikipedia in italiano e su Wikipedia inglese. Le voci portano 
-informazioni diametralmente opposte, leggere per credere,  quale è la verità ?<small>— <i>Questo commento senza la <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Firma" title="Aiuto:Firma">firma utente</a> è stato inserito da 151.33.155.240 (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussioni_utente:151.33.155.240&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Discussioni utente:151.33.155.240 (la pagina non esiste)">discussioni</a> · <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/151.33.155.240" title="Speciale:Contributi/151.33.155.240">contributi</a>) 19:04, 16 nov 2020 (CET)</i>.</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|151.33.155.240|2020-11-16T18:04:00.000Z|Tunja_voce_della_citt\u00e0_della_Colombia&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T23:36:00.000Z|151.33.155.240|2020-11-16T18:04:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-16T18:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;151.33.155.240&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|151.33.155.240|2020-11-16T18:04:00.000Z|Tunja_voce_della_città_della_Colombia"></span>
+informazioni diametralmente opposte, leggere per credere,  quale è la verità ?<small>— <i>Questo commento senza la <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Firma" title="Aiuto:Firma">firma utente</a> è stato inserito da 151.33.155.240 (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussioni_utente:151.33.155.240&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Discussioni utente:151.33.155.240 (la pagina non esiste)">discussioni</a> · <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/151.33.155.240" title="Speciale:Contributi/151.33.155.240">contributi</a>) 19:04, 16 nov 2020 (CET)</i>.</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|151.33.155.240|2020-11-16T18:04:00.000Z|Tunja_voce_della_citt\u00e0_della_Colombia&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T23:36:00.000Z|151.33.155.240|2020-11-16T18:04:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-16T18:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;151.33.155.240&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|151.33.155.240|2020-11-16T18:04:00.000Z|Tunja_voce_della_città_della_Colombia"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T23:36:00.000Z|151.33.155.240|2020-11-16T18:04:00.000Z"></span>Puoi specificare quali sono le informazioni diametralmente opposte? --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Postcrosser" title="Utente:Postcrosser">Postcrosser</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Postcrosser" title="Discussioni utente:Postcrosser">msg</a>) 00:36, 17 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T23:36:00.000Z|151.33.155.240|2020-11-16T18:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|93.36.167.230|2020-11-17T06:39:00.000Z|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T23:36:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-16T23:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Postcrosser&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T23:36:00.000Z|151.33.155.240|2020-11-16T18:04:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|93.36.167.230|2020-11-17T06:39:00.000Z|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T23:36:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Postcrosser" title="Utente:Postcrosser">Postcrosser</a>]</b></small> la voce italiana era stata pesantemente vandalizzata (a settembre). Ho ripristinato la versione precedente. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/93.36.167.230" title="Speciale:Contributi/93.36.167.230">93.36.167.230</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:93.36.167.230" title="Discussioni utente:93.36.167.230">msg</a>) 07:39, 17 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|93.36.167.230|2020-11-17T06:39:00.000Z|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T23:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Postcrosser|2020-11-17T10:08:00.000Z|93.36.167.230|2020-11-17T06:39:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-17T06:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;93.36.167.230&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|93.36.167.230|2020-11-17T06:39:00.000Z|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T23:36:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Postcrosser|2020-11-17T10:08:00.000Z|93.36.167.230|2020-11-17T06:39:00.000Z"></span>Grazie 93.36.167.230 per aver risolto il problema e a 151.33.155.240 per aver segnalato la cosa --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Postcrosser" title="Utente:Postcrosser">Postcrosser</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Postcrosser" title="Discussioni utente:Postcrosser">msg</a>) 11:08, 17 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Postcrosser|2020-11-17T10:08:00.000Z|93.36.167.230|2020-11-17T06:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-17T10:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Postcrosser&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Postcrosser|2020-11-17T10:08:00.000Z|93.36.167.230|2020-11-17T06:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T23:36:00.000Z|151.33.155.240|2020-11-16T18:04:00.000Z"></span>Puoi specificare quali sono le informazioni diametralmente opposte? --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Postcrosser" title="Utente:Postcrosser">Postcrosser</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Postcrosser" title="Discussioni utente:Postcrosser">msg</a>) 00:36, 17 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T23:36:00.000Z|151.33.155.240|2020-11-16T18:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|93.36.167.230|2020-11-17T06:39:00.000Z|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T23:36:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-16T23:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Postcrosser&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T23:36:00.000Z|151.33.155.240|2020-11-16T18:04:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|93.36.167.230|2020-11-17T06:39:00.000Z|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T23:36:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Postcrosser" title="Utente:Postcrosser">Postcrosser</a>]</b></small> la voce italiana era stata pesantemente vandalizzata (a settembre). Ho ripristinato la versione precedente. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/93.36.167.230" title="Speciale:Contributi/93.36.167.230">93.36.167.230</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:93.36.167.230" title="Discussioni utente:93.36.167.230">msg</a>) 07:39, 17 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|93.36.167.230|2020-11-17T06:39:00.000Z|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T23:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Postcrosser|2020-11-17T10:08:00.000Z|93.36.167.230|2020-11-17T06:39:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-17T06:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;93.36.167.230&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|93.36.167.230|2020-11-17T06:39:00.000Z|Postcrosser|2020-11-16T23:36:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Postcrosser|2020-11-17T10:08:00.000Z|93.36.167.230|2020-11-17T06:39:00.000Z"></span>Grazie 93.36.167.230 per aver risolto il problema e a 151.33.155.240 per aver segnalato la cosa --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Postcrosser" title="Utente:Postcrosser">Postcrosser</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Postcrosser" title="Discussioni utente:Postcrosser">msg</a>) 11:08, 17 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Postcrosser|2020-11-17T10:08:00.000Z|93.36.167.230|2020-11-17T06:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-17T10:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Postcrosser&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Postcrosser|2020-11-17T10:08:00.000Z|93.36.167.230|2020-11-17T06:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id="Inserire_l.27avviso_che_mancano_le_fonti"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Inserire_l'avviso_che_mancano_le_fonti" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Inserire_l'avviso_che_mancano_le_fonti|2020-11-16T18:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|87.14.101.127|2020-11-16T18:12:00.000Z|Inserire_l'avviso_che_mancano_le_fonti&quot;,&quot;c|79.31.32.66|2020-11-22T18:11:00.000Z|Inserire_l'avviso_che_mancano_le_fonti&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Inserire_l'avviso_che_mancano_le_fonti|2020-11-16T18:12:00.000Z"></span>Inserire l'avviso che mancano le fonti<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Inserire_l'avviso_che_mancano_le_fonti|2020-11-16T18:12:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|87.14.101.127|2020-11-16T18:12:00.000Z|Inserire_l'avviso_che_mancano_le_fonti"></span>Buonasera,
 volevo soltanto chiedere come bisogna fare per inserire l'avviso sotto la voce che non vengono citate le fonti o quelle presenti sono insufficienti. mi scuso ma sono alle prime armi su questo fantastico sito. 
-Ringrazio in anticipo.<small>— <i>Questo commento senza la <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Firma" title="Aiuto:Firma">firma utente</a> è stato inserito da 87.14.101.127 (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussioni_utente:87.14.101.127&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Discussioni utente:87.14.101.127 (la pagina non esiste)">discussioni</a> · <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/87.14.101.127" title="Speciale:Contributi/87.14.101.127">contributi</a>) 19:12, 16 nov 2020 (CET)</i>.</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|87.14.101.127|2020-11-16T18:12:00.000Z|Inserire_l'avviso_che_mancano_le_fonti&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Balara86|2020-11-17T07:21:00.000Z|87.14.101.127|2020-11-16T18:12:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-16T18:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;87.14.101.127&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|87.14.101.127|2020-11-16T18:12:00.000Z|Inserire_l'avviso_che_mancano_le_fonti"></span>
+Ringrazio in anticipo.<small>— <i>Questo commento senza la <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Firma" title="Aiuto:Firma">firma utente</a> è stato inserito da 87.14.101.127 (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussioni_utente:87.14.101.127&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Discussioni utente:87.14.101.127 (la pagina non esiste)">discussioni</a> · <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/87.14.101.127" title="Speciale:Contributi/87.14.101.127">contributi</a>) 19:12, 16 nov 2020 (CET)</i>.</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|87.14.101.127|2020-11-16T18:12:00.000Z|Inserire_l'avviso_che_mancano_le_fonti&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Balara86|2020-11-17T07:21:00.000Z|87.14.101.127|2020-11-16T18:12:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-16T18:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;87.14.101.127&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|87.14.101.127|2020-11-16T18:12:00.000Z|Inserire_l'avviso_che_mancano_le_fonti"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Balara86|2020-11-17T07:21:00.000Z|87.14.101.127|2020-11-16T18:12:00.000Z"></span>Ciao, la procedura è abbastanza semplice, all'inizio della voce bisogna aggiungere il template {{F|argomento|mese anno}}, puoi copia-incollarlo e modificare i parametri "argomento" e "mese anno". Per argomento devi inserire ad esempio "biografie" oppure "cinema" ecc., per "mese anno" devi mettere quando hai inserito il template, supponendo questo mese si scriverà "novembre 2020". Per approfondire ti invito a leggere <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:F" title="Template:F">qua</a>. Buon proseguimento.--<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Balara86&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Balara86 (la pagina non esiste)">Balara86</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Balara86" title="Discussioni utente:Balara86">msg</a>) 08:21, 17 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Balara86|2020-11-17T07:21:00.000Z|87.14.101.127|2020-11-16T18:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-17T07:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Balara86&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Balara86|2020-11-17T07:21:00.000Z|87.14.101.127|2020-11-16T18:12:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|79.31.32.66|2020-11-22T18:11:00.000Z|Inserire_l'avviso_che_mancano_le_fonti"></span>Grazie per l'informazione!<small>— <i>Questo commento senza la <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Firma" title="Aiuto:Firma">firma utente</a> è stato inserito da 79.31.32.66 (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussioni_utente:79.31.32.66&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Discussioni utente:79.31.32.66 (la pagina non esiste)">discussioni</a> · <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/79.31.32.66" title="Speciale:Contributi/79.31.32.66">contributi</a>) 19:11, 22 nov 2020 (CET)</i>.</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|79.31.32.66|2020-11-22T18:11:00.000Z|Inserire_l'avviso_che_mancano_le_fonti&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-22T18:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;79.31.32.66&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|79.31.32.66|2020-11-22T18:11:00.000Z|Inserire_l'avviso_che_mancano_le_fonti"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Balara86|2020-11-17T07:21:00.000Z|87.14.101.127|2020-11-16T18:12:00.000Z"></span>Ciao, la procedura è abbastanza semplice, all'inizio della voce bisogna aggiungere il template {{F|argomento|mese anno}}, puoi copia-incollarlo e modificare i parametri "argomento" e "mese anno". Per argomento devi inserire ad esempio "biografie" oppure "cinema" ecc., per "mese anno" devi mettere quando hai inserito il template, supponendo questo mese si scriverà "novembre 2020". Per approfondire ti invito a leggere <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:F" title="Template:F">qua</a>. Buon proseguimento.--<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Balara86&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Balara86 (la pagina non esiste)">Balara86</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Balara86" title="Discussioni utente:Balara86">msg</a>) 08:21, 17 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Balara86|2020-11-17T07:21:00.000Z|87.14.101.127|2020-11-16T18:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-17T07:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Balara86&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Balara86|2020-11-17T07:21:00.000Z|87.14.101.127|2020-11-16T18:12:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|79.31.32.66|2020-11-22T18:11:00.000Z|Inserire_l'avviso_che_mancano_le_fonti"></span>Grazie per l'informazione!<small>— <i>Questo commento senza la <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Firma" title="Aiuto:Firma">firma utente</a> è stato inserito da 79.31.32.66 (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussioni_utente:79.31.32.66&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Discussioni utente:79.31.32.66 (la pagina non esiste)">discussioni</a> · <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/79.31.32.66" title="Speciale:Contributi/79.31.32.66">contributi</a>) 19:11, 22 nov 2020 (CET)</i>.</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|79.31.32.66|2020-11-22T18:11:00.000Z|Inserire_l'avviso_che_mancano_le_fonti&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-22T18:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;79.31.32.66&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|79.31.32.66|2020-11-22T18:11:00.000Z|Inserire_l'avviso_che_mancano_le_fonti"></span>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Pierpao|2020-11-16T18:35:00.000Z|Server_Mediawiki_-_Segnalazione_incongruenze"></span>Stanno migrando le librerie alle nuove ICU... insomma stanno facendo casini come sempre :) (per chi vuole farsi del male leggere <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Officina#Update_to_ICU_Unicode_library" title="Wikipedia:Officina">Wikipedia:Officina#Update to ICU Unicode library</a>). Il risultato è che salteranno gli ordinamenti di qualche categoria. Se qualcuno domanda ditegli di pazientare e abituarsi. Prima o poi si sogneranno qualcos'altro :)--<i><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Pierpao" title="Utente:Pierpao">Pierpao</a> <small><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Pierpao" title="Discussioni utente:Pierpao">(listening)</a></small></i> 19:35, 16 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pierpao|2020-11-16T18:35:00.000Z|Server_Mediawiki_-_Segnalazione_incongruenze&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-16T18:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pierpao&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Pierpao|2020-11-16T18:35:00.000Z|Server_Mediawiki_-_Segnalazione_incongruenze"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Pierpao|2020-11-16T18:35:00.000Z|Server_Mediawiki_-_Segnalazione_incongruenze"></span>Stanno migrando le librerie alle nuove ICU... insomma stanno facendo casini come sempre :) (per chi vuole farsi del male leggere <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Officina#Update_to_ICU_Unicode_library" title="Wikipedia:Officina">Wikipedia:Officina#Update to ICU Unicode library</a>). Il risultato è che salteranno gli ordinamenti di qualche categoria. Se qualcuno domanda ditegli di pazientare e abituarsi. Prima o poi si sogneranno qualcos'altro :)--<i><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Pierpao" title="Utente:Pierpao">Pierpao</a> <small><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Pierpao" title="Discussioni utente:Pierpao">(listening)</a></small></i> 19:35, 16 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pierpao|2020-11-16T18:35:00.000Z|Server_Mediawiki_-_Segnalazione_incongruenze&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-16T18:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pierpao&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Pierpao|2020-11-16T18:35:00.000Z|Server_Mediawiki_-_Segnalazione_incongruenze"></span>
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 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|5.77.75.205|2020-11-17T08:54:00.000Z|Avviso_di_Vandalismo"></span>Ciao a tutti, oggi stavo visualizzando una pagina di wikipedia e, sulla stessa pagina, mi arriva un messaggio che dice che io avrei vandalizzato, o parzialmente rovinato, la pagina di <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Dobrik" title="David Dobrik">David Dobrik</a>. Questo però non è mai accaduto, infatti io non ho mai visualizzato questa pagina, tantomeno conoscevo la persona in questione.
 Cosa dovrei fare? Dovrei prendere provvedimenti di qualche tipo?
 Grazie
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+--<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/5.77.75.205" title="Speciale:Contributi/5.77.75.205">5.77.75.205</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:5.77.75.205" title="Discussioni utente:5.77.75.205">msg</a>) 09:54, 17 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|5.77.75.205|2020-11-17T08:54:00.000Z|Avviso_di_Vandalismo&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-17T08:57:00.000Z|5.77.75.205|2020-11-17T08:54:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-17T08:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;5.77.75.205&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|5.77.75.205|2020-11-17T08:54:00.000Z|Avviso_di_Vandalismo"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-17T08:57:00.000Z|5.77.75.205|2020-11-17T08:54:00.000Z"></span>Ciao, l'avviso non è rivolto a te, ma - dal momento che probabilmente il tuo <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indirizzo_IP" title="Indirizzo IP">indirizzo IP</a> è dinamico - a qualcuno che, qualche giorno fa, ha vandalizzato una pagina con l'indirizzo IP che ora utilizzi. Saluti--<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;text-shadow:1px 1px 1px purple"><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:ValeJappo" title="Utente:ValeJappo"><span style="color:white">Val<span style="color:red">eJa</span>ppo</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:ValeJappo" title="Discussioni utente:ValeJappo"><small style="color:red">【〒】</small></a></span> 09:57, 17 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-17T08:57:00.000Z|5.77.75.205|2020-11-17T08:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Shivanarayana|2020-11-17T08:59:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-17T08:57:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-17T08:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ValeJappo&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-17T08:57:00.000Z|5.77.75.205|2020-11-17T08:54:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Shivanarayana|2020-11-17T08:59:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-17T08:57:00.000Z"></span>Ti ho risposto sotto l'avviso nella discussioni associata al tuo indirizzo internet.--<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Shivanarayana" title="Utente:Shivanarayana">Shivanarayana</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Shivanarayana" title="Discussioni utente:Shivanarayana">msg</a>) 09:59, 17 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Shivanarayana|2020-11-17T08:59:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-17T08:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-17T08:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Shivanarayana&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Shivanarayana|2020-11-17T08:59:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-17T08:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<div style="border: 1px dashed gray; padding: 2px"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|95.237.218.42|2020-11-20T20:53:00.000Z|Avviso_di_Vandalismo"></span>C'è un avviso in fondo alla pagina di discussione degli IP .... Forse per renderlo più evidente si potrebbe spostarlo <i>in cima</i> alla pagina?... <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/95.237.218.42" title="Speciale:Contributi/95.237.218.42">95.237.218.42</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussioni_utente:95.237.218.42&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Discussioni utente:95.237.218.42 (la pagina non esiste)">msg</a>) 21:53, 20 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|95.237.218.42|2020-11-20T20:53:00.000Z|Avviso_di_Vandalismo&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-20T20:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;95.237.218.42&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|95.237.218.42|2020-11-20T20:53:00.000Z|Avviso_di_Vandalismo"></span></div><p><span style="font-family: verdana, sans-serif; color: white; background: blue; font-weight: bold; border: 1px solid black; font-stretch: ultra-condensed"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|95.237.218.42|2020-11-21T10:52:00.000Z|Avviso_di_Vandalismo"></span>cb</span> <i>La discussione prosegue nella pagina <b><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bar/Discussioni/Evitare_equivoci_per_gli_avvisi_a_IP_dinamici_o_condivisi" title="Wikipedia:Bar/Discussioni/Evitare equivoci per gli avvisi a IP dinamici o condivisi">Wikipedia:Bar/Discussioni/Evitare equivoci per gli avvisi a IP dinamici o condivisi</a></b></i>.<br/>
-</p><p><small>– Il <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Cambusa" title="Wikipedia:Cambusa">cambusiere</a> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/95.237.218.42" title="Speciale:Contributi/95.237.218.42">95.237.218.42</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussioni_utente:95.237.218.42&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Discussioni utente:95.237.218.42 (la pagina non esiste)">msg</a>) 11:52, 21 nov 2020 (CET)</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|95.237.218.42|2020-11-21T10:52:00.000Z|Avviso_di_Vandalismo&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-21T10:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;95.237.218.42&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|95.237.218.42|2020-11-21T10:52:00.000Z|Avviso_di_Vandalismo"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-17T08:57:00.000Z|5.77.75.205|2020-11-17T08:54:00.000Z"></span>Ciao, l'avviso non è rivolto a te, ma - dal momento che probabilmente il tuo <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indirizzo_IP" title="Indirizzo IP">indirizzo IP</a> è dinamico - a qualcuno che, qualche giorno fa, ha vandalizzato una pagina con l'indirizzo IP che ora utilizzi. Saluti--<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;text-shadow:1px 1px 1px purple"><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:ValeJappo" title="Utente:ValeJappo"><span style="color:white">Val<span style="color:red">eJa</span>ppo</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:ValeJappo" title="Discussioni utente:ValeJappo"><small style="color:red">【〒】</small></a></span> 09:57, 17 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-17T08:57:00.000Z|5.77.75.205|2020-11-17T08:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Shivanarayana|2020-11-17T08:59:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-17T08:57:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-17T08:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ValeJappo&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-17T08:57:00.000Z|5.77.75.205|2020-11-17T08:54:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Shivanarayana|2020-11-17T08:59:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-17T08:57:00.000Z"></span>Ti ho risposto sotto l'avviso nella discussioni associata al tuo indirizzo internet.--<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Shivanarayana" title="Utente:Shivanarayana">Shivanarayana</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Shivanarayana" title="Discussioni utente:Shivanarayana">msg</a>) 09:59, 17 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Shivanarayana|2020-11-17T08:59:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-17T08:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-17T08:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Shivanarayana&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Shivanarayana|2020-11-17T08:59:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-17T08:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<div style="border: 1px dashed gray; padding: 2px"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|95.237.218.42|2020-11-20T20:53:00.000Z|Avviso_di_Vandalismo"></span>C'è un avviso in fondo alla pagina di discussione degli IP .... Forse per renderlo più evidente si potrebbe spostarlo <i>in cima</i> alla pagina?... <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/95.237.218.42" title="Speciale:Contributi/95.237.218.42">95.237.218.42</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussioni_utente:95.237.218.42&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Discussioni utente:95.237.218.42 (la pagina non esiste)">msg</a>) 21:53, 20 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|95.237.218.42|2020-11-20T20:53:00.000Z|Avviso_di_Vandalismo&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-20T20:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;95.237.218.42&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|95.237.218.42|2020-11-20T20:53:00.000Z|Avviso_di_Vandalismo"></span></div><p><span style="font-family: verdana, sans-serif; color: white; background: blue; font-weight: bold; border: 1px solid black; font-stretch: ultra-condensed"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|95.237.218.42|2020-11-21T10:52:00.000Z|Avviso_di_Vandalismo"></span>cb</span> <i>La discussione prosegue nella pagina <b><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bar/Discussioni/Evitare_equivoci_per_gli_avvisi_a_IP_dinamici_o_condivisi" title="Wikipedia:Bar/Discussioni/Evitare equivoci per gli avvisi a IP dinamici o condivisi">Wikipedia:Bar/Discussioni/Evitare equivoci per gli avvisi a IP dinamici o condivisi</a></b></i>.<br/>
+</p><p><small>– Il <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Cambusa" title="Wikipedia:Cambusa">cambusiere</a> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/95.237.218.42" title="Speciale:Contributi/95.237.218.42">95.237.218.42</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussioni_utente:95.237.218.42&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Discussioni utente:95.237.218.42 (la pagina non esiste)">msg</a>) 11:52, 21 nov 2020 (CET)</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|95.237.218.42|2020-11-21T10:52:00.000Z|Avviso_di_Vandalismo&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-21T10:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;95.237.218.42&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|95.237.218.42|2020-11-21T10:52:00.000Z|Avviso_di_Vandalismo"></span>
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 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Enzo Encius|2020-11-17T11:39:00.000Z|Richiesta_convalida"></span>Buongiorno,
@@ -179,7 +179,7 @@ Grazie
 </p><p>Ringraziandovi anticipatamente per la vostra disponibilità colgo l'occasione per porgere
 </p><p>Distinti saluti<small>— <i>Questo commento senza la <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Firma" title="Aiuto:Firma">firma utente</a> è stato inserito da <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Riccardo_Simonelli&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Riccardo Simonelli (la pagina non esiste)">Riccardo Simonelli</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Riccardo_Simonelli" title="Discussioni utente:Riccardo Simonelli">discussioni</a> · <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/Riccardo_Simonelli" title="Speciale:Contributi/Riccardo Simonelli">contributi</a>)</i>.</small>
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-<dl><dd><small><b>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Riccardo_Simonelli&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Riccardo Simonelli (la pagina non esiste)">Riccardo Simonelli</a>]</b></small> ti ho risposto nella mia talk.--<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC"><b><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Enzo_Encius" title="Utente:Enzo Encius"><span style="color:red">Enzo</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Enzo_Encius" title="Discussioni utente:Enzo Encius"><span style="color:blue">Encius</span></a></b></span> 12:39, 17 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Enzo Encius|2020-11-17T11:39:00.000Z|Richiesta_convalida&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-17T11:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Enzo Encius&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Enzo Encius|2020-11-17T11:39:00.000Z|Richiesta_convalida"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><small><b>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Riccardo_Simonelli&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Riccardo Simonelli (la pagina non esiste)">Riccardo Simonelli</a>]</b></small> ti ho risposto nella mia talk.--<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC"><b><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Enzo_Encius" title="Utente:Enzo Encius"><span style="color:red">Enzo</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Enzo_Encius" title="Discussioni utente:Enzo Encius"><span style="color:blue">Encius</span></a></b></span> 12:39, 17 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Enzo Encius|2020-11-17T11:39:00.000Z|Richiesta_convalida&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-17T11:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Enzo Encius&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Enzo Encius|2020-11-17T11:39:00.000Z|Richiesta_convalida"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Pagina_Alberto_Dolfin" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Pagina_Alberto_Dolfin&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Pagina_Alberto_Dolfin"></span>Pagina Alberto Dolfin<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Pagina_Alberto_Dolfin"></span></span></h2>
 <p>Buonasera, ho creato la pagina Alberto Dolfin non come curriculum ma come voce per arricchire molti riferimenti già presenti sul portale Wikipedia. Se cercate il mio nome, troverete già diversi articoli (non inseriti da me) presenti in voci italiane di atleti di tutto il mondo. 
 </p><p>Vi chiedo gentilmente come modificarla perché sia pubblicata perché in molti mi chiedono perché non esista un riferimento quando cercano informazioni sul libro scritto su mio fratello Marco Dolfin, di cui era già stata creata una voce che però conteneva alcuni errori che rischiavano di fuoriviare i colleghi che scrivono in questi giorni su di lui grazie a un po' di articoli usciti.
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 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Collaborazione" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Collaborazione|2020-11-17T19:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|87.18.165.115|2020-11-17T19:58:00.000Z|Collaborazione&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Collaborazione|2020-11-17T19:58:00.000Z"></span>Collaborazione<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Collaborazione|2020-11-17T19:58:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|87.18.165.115|2020-11-17T19:58:00.000Z|Collaborazione"></span>Gradirei collaborare con Wikipedia inserendo miei articoli, saggi di argomento culturale e pubblicare i titoli dei libri che ho scritto.
-<small>— <i>Questo commento senza la <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Firma" title="Aiuto:Firma">firma utente</a> è stato inserito da 87.18.165.115 (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussioni_utente:87.18.165.115&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Discussioni utente:87.18.165.115 (la pagina non esiste)">discussioni</a> · <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/87.18.165.115" title="Speciale:Contributi/87.18.165.115">contributi</a>) 20:58, 17 nov 2020 (CET)</i>.</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|87.18.165.115|2020-11-17T19:58:00.000Z|Collaborazione&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|87.4.47.34|2020-11-17T22:39:00.000Z|87.18.165.115|2020-11-17T19:58:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-17T19:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;87.18.165.115&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|87.18.165.115|2020-11-17T19:58:00.000Z|Collaborazione"></span>
+<small>— <i>Questo commento senza la <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Firma" title="Aiuto:Firma">firma utente</a> è stato inserito da 87.18.165.115 (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussioni_utente:87.18.165.115&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Discussioni utente:87.18.165.115 (la pagina non esiste)">discussioni</a> · <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/87.18.165.115" title="Speciale:Contributi/87.18.165.115">contributi</a>) 20:58, 17 nov 2020 (CET)</i>.</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|87.18.165.115|2020-11-17T19:58:00.000Z|Collaborazione&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|87.4.47.34|2020-11-17T22:39:00.000Z|87.18.165.115|2020-11-17T19:58:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-17T19:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;87.18.165.115&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|87.18.165.115|2020-11-17T19:58:00.000Z|Collaborazione"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|87.4.47.34|2020-11-17T22:39:00.000Z|87.18.165.115|2020-11-17T19:58:00.000Z"></span>Sono già stati pubblicati altrove? Se sì vedi <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CONCEDI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CONCEDI">WP:CONCEDI</a>. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/87.4.47.34" title="Speciale:Contributi/87.4.47.34">87.4.47.34</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:87.4.47.34" title="Discussioni utente:87.4.47.34">msg</a>) 23:39, 17 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|87.4.47.34|2020-11-17T22:39:00.000Z|87.18.165.115|2020-11-17T19:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-17T22:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;87.4.47.34&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|87.4.47.34|2020-11-17T22:39:00.000Z|87.18.165.115|2020-11-17T19:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|87.4.47.34|2020-11-17T22:39:00.000Z|87.18.165.115|2020-11-17T19:58:00.000Z"></span>Sono già stati pubblicati altrove? Se sì vedi <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CONCEDI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CONCEDI">WP:CONCEDI</a>. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/87.4.47.34" title="Speciale:Contributi/87.4.47.34">87.4.47.34</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:87.4.47.34" title="Discussioni utente:87.4.47.34">msg</a>) 23:39, 17 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|87.4.47.34|2020-11-17T22:39:00.000Z|87.18.165.115|2020-11-17T19:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-17T22:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;87.4.47.34&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|87.4.47.34|2020-11-17T22:39:00.000Z|87.18.165.115|2020-11-17T19:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Procedura_cancellazione" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Procedura_cancellazione|2020-11-17T22:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Sizigia|2020-11-17T22:18:00.000Z|Procedura_cancellazione&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Procedura_cancellazione|2020-11-17T22:18:00.000Z"></span>Procedura cancellazione<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Procedura_cancellazione|2020-11-17T22:18:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Sizigia|2020-11-17T22:18:00.000Z|Procedura_cancellazione"></span>Dopo discussione ho ricevuto il via libera per proporre la cancellazione della pagina Antonio Giordano. Ho provato a mettere la stringa sopra la pagina, seguendo le indicazioni (o almeno così mi pareva) ma non compare nulla. Mi potete aiutare per favore? Grazie <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Sizigia&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Sizigia (la pagina non esiste)">Sizigia</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Sizigia" title="Discussioni utente:Sizigia">msg</a>) 23:18, 17 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Sizigia|2020-11-17T22:18:00.000Z|Procedura_cancellazione&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|GryffindorD|2020-11-17T22:24:00.000Z|Sizigia|2020-11-17T22:18:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-17T22:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Sizigia&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Sizigia|2020-11-17T22:18:00.000Z|Procedura_cancellazione"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Sizigia|2020-11-17T22:18:00.000Z|Procedura_cancellazione"></span>Dopo discussione ho ricevuto il via libera per proporre la cancellazione della pagina Antonio Giordano. Ho provato a mettere la stringa sopra la pagina, seguendo le indicazioni (o almeno così mi pareva) ma non compare nulla. Mi potete aiutare per favore? Grazie <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Sizigia&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Sizigia (la pagina non esiste)">Sizigia</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Sizigia" title="Discussioni utente:Sizigia">msg</a>) 23:18, 17 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Sizigia|2020-11-17T22:18:00.000Z|Procedura_cancellazione&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|GryffindorD|2020-11-17T22:24:00.000Z|Sizigia|2020-11-17T22:18:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-17T22:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Sizigia&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Sizigia|2020-11-17T22:18:00.000Z|Procedura_cancellazione"></span>
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-<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|GryffindorD|2020-11-17T22:24:00.000Z|Sizigia|2020-11-17T22:18:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Sizigia&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Sizigia (la pagina non esiste)">Sizigia</a>]</b></small> ho aggiunto il template {{<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cancellazione" title="Template:Cancellazione">cancellazione</a>}}, vai alla pagina <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Antonio_Giordano_(medico)&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Antonio Giordano (medico) (la pagina non esiste)">Antonio Giordano (medico)</a> leggi l'avviso e segui la procedura. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:GryffindorD" title="Discussioni utente:GryffindorD"><span style="color:#007FFF"><b>GryffindorD</b></span></a> 23:24, 17 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GryffindorD|2020-11-17T22:24:00.000Z|Sizigia|2020-11-17T22:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-17T22:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GryffindorD&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GryffindorD|2020-11-17T22:24:00.000Z|Sizigia|2020-11-17T22:18:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|GryffindorD|2020-11-17T22:24:00.000Z|Sizigia|2020-11-17T22:18:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Sizigia&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Sizigia (la pagina non esiste)">Sizigia</a>]</b></small> ho aggiunto il template {{<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cancellazione" title="Template:Cancellazione">cancellazione</a>}}, vai alla pagina <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Antonio_Giordano_(medico)&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Antonio Giordano (medico) (la pagina non esiste)">Antonio Giordano (medico)</a> leggi l'avviso e segui la procedura. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:GryffindorD" title="Discussioni utente:GryffindorD"><span style="color:#007FFF"><b>GryffindorD</b></span></a> 23:24, 17 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GryffindorD|2020-11-17T22:24:00.000Z|Sizigia|2020-11-17T22:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-17T22:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GryffindorD&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GryffindorD|2020-11-17T22:24:00.000Z|Sizigia|2020-11-17T22:18:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Inserisci_qui_il_titolo_della_richiesta" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Inserisci_qui_il_titolo_della_richiesta|2020-11-18T18:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Intercontatto|2020-11-18T18:36:00.000Z|Inserisci_qui_il_titolo_della_richiesta&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Inserisci_qui_il_titolo_della_richiesta|2020-11-18T18:36:00.000Z"></span>Inserisci qui il titolo della richiesta<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Inserisci_qui_il_titolo_della_richiesta|2020-11-18T18:36:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Intercontatto|2020-11-18T18:36:00.000Z|Inserisci_qui_il_titolo_della_richiesta"></span>Gentili ho creato una pagina (inserita in prove) per un conduttore Tv e radiofonico nazionale, ma non sono sicuro che sia stata inserita in modo corretto. Per creare il testo abbiamo seguito tutte le indicazioni generali. Qualcuno puo' aiutarmi?<small>— <i>Questo commento senza la <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Firma" title="Aiuto:Firma">firma utente</a> è stato inserito da <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Intercontatto&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Intercontatto (la pagina non esiste)">Intercontatto</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Intercontatto" title="Discussioni utente:Intercontatto">discussioni</a> · <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/Intercontatto" title="Speciale:Contributi/Intercontatto">contributi</a>) 19:36, 18 nov 2020 (CET)</i>.</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Intercontatto|2020-11-18T18:36:00.000Z|Inserisci_qui_il_titolo_della_richiesta&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|L736E|2020-11-18T18:39:00.000Z|Intercontatto|2020-11-18T18:36:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-18T18:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Intercontatto&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Intercontatto|2020-11-18T18:36:00.000Z|Inserisci_qui_il_titolo_della_richiesta"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Intercontatto|2020-11-18T18:36:00.000Z|Inserisci_qui_il_titolo_della_richiesta"></span>Gentili ho creato una pagina (inserita in prove) per un conduttore Tv e radiofonico nazionale, ma non sono sicuro che sia stata inserita in modo corretto. Per creare il testo abbiamo seguito tutte le indicazioni generali. Qualcuno puo' aiutarmi?<small>— <i>Questo commento senza la <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Firma" title="Aiuto:Firma">firma utente</a> è stato inserito da <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Intercontatto&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Intercontatto (la pagina non esiste)">Intercontatto</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Intercontatto" title="Discussioni utente:Intercontatto">discussioni</a> · <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/Intercontatto" title="Speciale:Contributi/Intercontatto">contributi</a>) 19:36, 18 nov 2020 (CET)</i>.</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Intercontatto|2020-11-18T18:36:00.000Z|Inserisci_qui_il_titolo_della_richiesta&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|L736E|2020-11-18T18:39:00.000Z|Intercontatto|2020-11-18T18:36:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-18T18:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Intercontatto&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Intercontatto|2020-11-18T18:36:00.000Z|Inserisci_qui_il_titolo_della_richiesta"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|L736E|2020-11-18T18:39:00.000Z|Intercontatto|2020-11-18T18:36:00.000Z"></span>Innanzitutto le voci non si creano nella pagina utente (che non è una pagina di prove) in secondo luogo il presentatore in questione non rientra nei requisiti di <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:E" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:E">rilevanza enciclopedica</a>. Wikipedia non è un servizio di hosting dove si creano voci-vetrina o a uso "visibilità sul web" (Wikipedia "non fa book") ma una "enciclopedia" e quindi, come tale, le voci sono riservate solo a chi ha avuto una carriera talmente significativa da poter stare, appunto, su una enciclopedia. In terzo luogo, dato che il tuo nome coincide con quello di una agenzia di comunicazione (e quindi è inappropriato) e stai usando il progetto per fare pubblicità o come "strumento di promozione" (cosa vietata), senza averlo dichiarato prima (vedi <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:COMMISSIONE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COMMISSIONE">WP:COMMISSIONE</a>), la tua utenza è stata bloccata a tempo indeterminato. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:L736E" title="Utente:L736E"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: #006600;">L736E</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:L736E" title="Discussioni utente:L736E"><span style="color: #330000; font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"><sup>l'adminalcolico</sup></span></a> 19:39, 18 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|L736E|2020-11-18T18:39:00.000Z|Intercontatto|2020-11-18T18:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-18T18:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;L736E&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|L736E|2020-11-18T18:39:00.000Z|Intercontatto|2020-11-18T18:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|L736E|2020-11-18T18:39:00.000Z|Intercontatto|2020-11-18T18:36:00.000Z"></span>Innanzitutto le voci non si creano nella pagina utente (che non è una pagina di prove) in secondo luogo il presentatore in questione non rientra nei requisiti di <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:E" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:E">rilevanza enciclopedica</a>. Wikipedia non è un servizio di hosting dove si creano voci-vetrina o a uso "visibilità sul web" (Wikipedia "non fa book") ma una "enciclopedia" e quindi, come tale, le voci sono riservate solo a chi ha avuto una carriera talmente significativa da poter stare, appunto, su una enciclopedia. In terzo luogo, dato che il tuo nome coincide con quello di una agenzia di comunicazione (e quindi è inappropriato) e stai usando il progetto per fare pubblicità o come "strumento di promozione" (cosa vietata), senza averlo dichiarato prima (vedi <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:COMMISSIONE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COMMISSIONE">WP:COMMISSIONE</a>), la tua utenza è stata bloccata a tempo indeterminato. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:L736E" title="Utente:L736E"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: #006600;">L736E</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:L736E" title="Discussioni utente:L736E"><span style="color: #330000; font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"><sup>l'adminalcolico</sup></span></a> 19:39, 18 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|L736E|2020-11-18T18:39:00.000Z|Intercontatto|2020-11-18T18:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-18T18:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;L736E&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|L736E|2020-11-18T18:39:00.000Z|Intercontatto|2020-11-18T18:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|37.159.55.114|2020-11-19T06:17:00.000Z|Blocchi_continuativi_sbagliati_e_ingiustificati"></span>Salve, vengo repentinamente bloccato con motivazione "IP degli aggiornamenti errati programmi TV"; ciò mi causa non pochi disagi e mi fa perdere una notevole quantità di tempo oltre che mi fa andar perse le modifiche che stavo attuando. Esempio lampante mi succede sulla voce Municipio di Montréal o anche su altre. Chiedo cortesemente un'aiuto. <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/37.159.55.114" title="Speciale:Contributi/37.159.55.114">37.159.55.114</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussioni_utente:37.159.55.114&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Discussioni utente:37.159.55.114 (la pagina non esiste)">msg</a>) 07:17, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|37.159.55.114|2020-11-19T06:17:00.000Z|Blocchi_continuativi_sbagliati_e_ingiustificati&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T06:22:00.000Z|37.159.55.114|2020-11-19T06:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|151.47.37.37|2020-11-19T19:31:00.000Z|37.159.55.114|2020-11-19T06:17:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T06:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;37.159.55.114&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|37.159.55.114|2020-11-19T06:17:00.000Z|Blocchi_continuativi_sbagliati_e_ingiustificati"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|37.159.55.114|2020-11-19T06:17:00.000Z|Blocchi_continuativi_sbagliati_e_ingiustificati"></span>Salve, vengo repentinamente bloccato con motivazione "IP degli aggiornamenti errati programmi TV"; ciò mi causa non pochi disagi e mi fa perdere una notevole quantità di tempo oltre che mi fa andar perse le modifiche che stavo attuando. Esempio lampante mi succede sulla voce Municipio di Montréal o anche su altre. Chiedo cortesemente un'aiuto. <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/37.159.55.114" title="Speciale:Contributi/37.159.55.114">37.159.55.114</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussioni_utente:37.159.55.114&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Discussioni utente:37.159.55.114 (la pagina non esiste)">msg</a>) 07:17, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|37.159.55.114|2020-11-19T06:17:00.000Z|Blocchi_continuativi_sbagliati_e_ingiustificati&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T06:22:00.000Z|37.159.55.114|2020-11-19T06:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|151.47.37.37|2020-11-19T19:31:00.000Z|37.159.55.114|2020-11-19T06:17:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T06:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;37.159.55.114&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|37.159.55.114|2020-11-19T06:17:00.000Z|Blocchi_continuativi_sbagliati_e_ingiustificati"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T06:22:00.000Z|37.159.55.114|2020-11-19T06:17:00.000Z"></span>Ciao, è un problema del filtro anti abusi6. @<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Daimona_Eaytoy" title="Utente:Daimona Eaytoy">Daimona Eaytoy</a>. Per evitare ciò, basta registrarti!--<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;text-shadow:1px 1px 1px purple"><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:ValeJappo" title="Utente:ValeJappo"><span style="color:white">Val<span style="color:red">eJa</span>ppo</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:ValeJappo" title="Discussioni utente:ValeJappo"><small style="color:red">【〒】</small></a></span> 07:22, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T06:22:00.000Z|37.159.55.114|2020-11-19T06:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|37.159.55.114|2020-11-19T07:31:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T06:22:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T06:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ValeJappo&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T06:22:00.000Z|37.159.55.114|2020-11-19T06:17:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|37.159.55.114|2020-11-19T07:31:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T06:22:00.000Z"></span>Innanzitutto grazie per avermi risposto e per esserti preso carico della questione; più o meno qual'è la tempistica per risolvere questo malfunzionamento? Quando premo il tasto "salva modifiche" mi viene impedito di salvarle e mi esce la suddetta scritta e non stavo modificando nessuna voce su programmi televisivi. <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/37.159.55.114" title="Speciale:Contributi/37.159.55.114">37.159.55.114</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussioni_utente:37.159.55.114&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Discussioni utente:37.159.55.114 (la pagina non esiste)">msg</a>) 08:31, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|37.159.55.114|2020-11-19T07:31:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T06:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T07:50:00.000Z|37.159.55.114|2020-11-19T07:31:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T07:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;37.159.55.114&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|37.159.55.114|2020-11-19T07:31:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T06:22:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T07:50:00.000Z|37.159.55.114|2020-11-19T07:31:00.000Z"></span>Purtroppo non dipende da me ma dall'utente che ho menzionato, sono sicuro risolverà il prima possibile; il mio consiglio rimane comunque quello di registrarsi. Puoi provare a cercare di capire tu stesso cosa attiva il filtro, e evitare di inserirlo.--<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;text-shadow:1px 1px 1px purple"><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:ValeJappo" title="Utente:ValeJappo"><span style="color:white">Val<span style="color:red">eJa</span>ppo</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:ValeJappo" title="Discussioni utente:ValeJappo"><small style="color:red">【〒】</small></a></span> 08:50, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T07:50:00.000Z|37.159.55.114|2020-11-19T07:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T12:01:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T07:50:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T07:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ValeJappo&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T07:50:00.000Z|37.159.55.114|2020-11-19T07:31:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T12:01:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T07:50:00.000Z"></span>In realtà, io non ne ho la più pallida idea. <small><b>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:L736E" title="Utente:L736E">L736E</a>]</b></small>? --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Daimona_Eaytoy" title="Utente:Daimona Eaytoy"><span style="color: #696969; font-weight: bold; font-family: Segoe Print;">Daimona Eaytoy</span></a> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Daimona_Eaytoy" title="Discussioni utente:Daimona Eaytoy"><span style="color: black; font-size: small; font-family: cursive, serif;">(Scrivimi!)</span></a> 13:01, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T12:01:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T07:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|87.4.47.34|2020-11-19T12:34:00.000Z|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T12:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Daimona Eaytoy&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T12:01:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T07:50:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|87.4.47.34|2020-11-19T12:34:00.000Z|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T12:01:00.000Z"></span>Ma nel frattempo non si possono disalibilitare questi filtri "farlocchi" così soggetti a falsi positivi? Chi può farlo, un qualunque amministratore? --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/87.4.47.34" title="Speciale:Contributi/87.4.47.34">87.4.47.34</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:87.4.47.34" title="Discussioni utente:87.4.47.34">msg</a>) 13:34, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|87.4.47.34|2020-11-19T12:34:00.000Z|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T12:45:00.000Z|87.4.47.34|2020-11-19T12:34:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T12:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;87.4.47.34&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|87.4.47.34|2020-11-19T12:34:00.000Z|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T12:01:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T12:45:00.000Z|87.4.47.34|2020-11-19T12:34:00.000Z"></span>Sì, solo che chiamarli "farlocchi" senza sapere esattamente cosa fanno mi sembra un po' eccessivo. Attendiamo chi ne sa di più, mi sembra che nel caso specifico non ci siano urgenze immediate. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Daimona_Eaytoy" title="Utente:Daimona Eaytoy"><span style="color: #696969; font-weight: bold; font-family: Segoe Print;">Daimona Eaytoy</span></a> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Daimona_Eaytoy" title="Discussioni utente:Daimona Eaytoy"><span style="color: black; font-size: small; font-family: cursive, serif;">(Scrivimi!)</span></a> 13:45, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T12:45:00.000Z|87.4.47.34|2020-11-19T12:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|87.4.47.34|2020-11-19T13:08:00.000Z|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T12:45:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T12:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Daimona Eaytoy&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T12:45:00.000Z|87.4.47.34|2020-11-19T12:34:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|87.4.47.34|2020-11-19T13:08:00.000Z|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T12:45:00.000Z"></span>Sì scusa <small><b>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Daimona_Eaytoy" title="Utente:Daimona Eaytoy">Daimona Eaytoy</a>]</b></small>, era tra virgolette e spiegavo subito dopo cosa intendevo: che causano blocchi per falso positivo (blocchi che, se non ricordo male, avevo visto più volte essere descritti sommariamente come "blocchi farlocchi", per tralsato ho fatto passare il farlocco al filtro che li causa).  Mi sembra un problema bello grave, e non è la prima volta che ne vedo segnalati qui allo Sportello, un utente bloccato per sbaglio potrebbe arrabbiarsi o anche solo stufarsi e non contribuire più. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/87.4.47.34" title="Speciale:Contributi/87.4.47.34">87.4.47.34</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:87.4.47.34" title="Discussioni utente:87.4.47.34">msg</a>) 14:08, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|87.4.47.34|2020-11-19T13:08:00.000Z|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T12:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T13:15:00.000Z|87.4.47.34|2020-11-19T13:08:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T13:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;87.4.47.34&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|87.4.47.34|2020-11-19T13:08:00.000Z|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T12:45:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T13:15:00.000Z|87.4.47.34|2020-11-19T13:08:00.000Z"></span>Su questo siamo d'accordo, anche se in questo caso l'utente non è stato bloccato, è solo stata impedita la modifica. Naturalmente limitare i falsi positivi è sempre una priorità, sebbene alle volte non sia immediato. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Daimona_Eaytoy" title="Utente:Daimona Eaytoy"><span style="color: #696969; font-weight: bold; font-family: Segoe Print;">Daimona Eaytoy</span></a> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Daimona_Eaytoy" title="Discussioni utente:Daimona Eaytoy"><span style="color: black; font-size: small; font-family: cursive, serif;">(Scrivimi!)</span></a> 14:15, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:9,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T13:15:00.000Z|87.4.47.34|2020-11-19T13:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|L736E|2020-11-19T18:42:00.000Z|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T13:15:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T13:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Daimona Eaytoy&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T13:15:00.000Z|87.4.47.34|2020-11-19T13:08:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|L736E|2020-11-19T18:42:00.000Z|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T13:15:00.000Z"></span>Diciamo che si deve anche ringraziare una buona parte di IP che utilizzano lo stesso provider e avevano preso di mira le pagine relative ai programmi TV per: scrivere anticipazioni, inserire dettagli e curiosità irrilevanti, inserire a manetta loghi e controloghi in barba a tutte le linee guida. Ad ogni modo, la soluzione più semplice è questa: createvi una utenza e agite come utenti registrati (oltretutto risulta anche più facile comunicare con gli altri utenti).--<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:L736E" title="Utente:L736E"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: #006600;">L736E</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:L736E" title="Discussioni utente:L736E"><span style="color: #330000; font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"><sup>l'adminalcolico</sup></span></a> 19:42, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:10,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|L736E|2020-11-19T18:42:00.000Z|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T13:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T18:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;L736E&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|L736E|2020-11-19T18:42:00.000Z|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T13:15:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|151.47.37.37|2020-11-19T19:31:00.000Z|37.159.55.114|2020-11-19T06:17:00.000Z"></span>Io non consiglio la registrazione di un'utenza, tutti i tuoi contributi verrebbero tenuti sott'occhio e ti creeresti una storia editoriale con cui verresti facilmente "etichettato" in senso ideologico da altri utenti e soprattutto da amministratori superficiali.--<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/151.47.37.37" title="Speciale:Contributi/151.47.37.37">151.47.37.37</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussioni_utente:151.47.37.37&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Discussioni utente:151.47.37.37 (la pagina non esiste)">msg</a>) 20:31, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|151.47.37.37|2020-11-19T19:31:00.000Z|37.159.55.114|2020-11-19T06:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Popop|2020-11-19T21:10:00.000Z|151.47.37.37|2020-11-19T19:31:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T19:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;151.47.37.37&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|151.47.37.37|2020-11-19T19:31:00.000Z|37.159.55.114|2020-11-19T06:17:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Popop|2020-11-19T21:10:00.000Z|151.47.37.37|2020-11-19T19:31:00.000Z"></span>Ovviamente non condivido l'opinione di 151.47.37.37 (infatti sono registrato :) però capisco anche che qualcuno possa desiderare di contribuire senza registrazione. Così, come soluzione provvisoria, finché non si risolvono i problemi relativi ai blocchi, 37.159.55.114, se vuole, potrebbe registrarsi, ma usare l'account esclusivamente nei casi in cui viene bloccato come IP. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Popop" title="Utente:Popop"><span style="color:red">P<sub>o</sub>p</span></a> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Popop" title="Discussioni utente:Popop"><span style="color:blue">O<sup>p</sup></span></a> 22:10, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Popop|2020-11-19T21:10:00.000Z|151.47.37.37|2020-11-19T19:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T21:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Popop&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Popop|2020-11-19T21:10:00.000Z|151.47.37.37|2020-11-19T19:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T06:22:00.000Z|37.159.55.114|2020-11-19T06:17:00.000Z"></span>Ciao, è un problema del filtro anti abusi6. @<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Daimona_Eaytoy" title="Utente:Daimona Eaytoy">Daimona Eaytoy</a>. Per evitare ciò, basta registrarti!--<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;text-shadow:1px 1px 1px purple"><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:ValeJappo" title="Utente:ValeJappo"><span style="color:white">Val<span style="color:red">eJa</span>ppo</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:ValeJappo" title="Discussioni utente:ValeJappo"><small style="color:red">【〒】</small></a></span> 07:22, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T06:22:00.000Z|37.159.55.114|2020-11-19T06:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|37.159.55.114|2020-11-19T07:31:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T06:22:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T06:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ValeJappo&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T06:22:00.000Z|37.159.55.114|2020-11-19T06:17:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|37.159.55.114|2020-11-19T07:31:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T06:22:00.000Z"></span>Innanzitutto grazie per avermi risposto e per esserti preso carico della questione; più o meno qual'è la tempistica per risolvere questo malfunzionamento? Quando premo il tasto "salva modifiche" mi viene impedito di salvarle e mi esce la suddetta scritta e non stavo modificando nessuna voce su programmi televisivi. <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/37.159.55.114" title="Speciale:Contributi/37.159.55.114">37.159.55.114</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussioni_utente:37.159.55.114&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Discussioni utente:37.159.55.114 (la pagina non esiste)">msg</a>) 08:31, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|37.159.55.114|2020-11-19T07:31:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T06:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T07:50:00.000Z|37.159.55.114|2020-11-19T07:31:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T07:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;37.159.55.114&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|37.159.55.114|2020-11-19T07:31:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T06:22:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T07:50:00.000Z|37.159.55.114|2020-11-19T07:31:00.000Z"></span>Purtroppo non dipende da me ma dall'utente che ho menzionato, sono sicuro risolverà il prima possibile; il mio consiglio rimane comunque quello di registrarsi. Puoi provare a cercare di capire tu stesso cosa attiva il filtro, e evitare di inserirlo.--<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;text-shadow:1px 1px 1px purple"><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:ValeJappo" title="Utente:ValeJappo"><span style="color:white">Val<span style="color:red">eJa</span>ppo</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:ValeJappo" title="Discussioni utente:ValeJappo"><small style="color:red">【〒】</small></a></span> 08:50, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T07:50:00.000Z|37.159.55.114|2020-11-19T07:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T12:01:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T07:50:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T07:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ValeJappo&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T07:50:00.000Z|37.159.55.114|2020-11-19T07:31:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T12:01:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T07:50:00.000Z"></span>In realtà, io non ne ho la più pallida idea. <small><b>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:L736E" title="Utente:L736E">L736E</a>]</b></small>? --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Daimona_Eaytoy" title="Utente:Daimona Eaytoy"><span style="color: #696969; font-weight: bold; font-family: Segoe Print;">Daimona Eaytoy</span></a> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Daimona_Eaytoy" title="Discussioni utente:Daimona Eaytoy"><span style="color: black; font-size: small; font-family: cursive, serif;">(Scrivimi!)</span></a> 13:01, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T12:01:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T07:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|87.4.47.34|2020-11-19T12:34:00.000Z|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T12:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Daimona Eaytoy&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T12:01:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T07:50:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|87.4.47.34|2020-11-19T12:34:00.000Z|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T12:01:00.000Z"></span>Ma nel frattempo non si possono disalibilitare questi filtri "farlocchi" così soggetti a falsi positivi? Chi può farlo, un qualunque amministratore? --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/87.4.47.34" title="Speciale:Contributi/87.4.47.34">87.4.47.34</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:87.4.47.34" title="Discussioni utente:87.4.47.34">msg</a>) 13:34, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|87.4.47.34|2020-11-19T12:34:00.000Z|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T12:45:00.000Z|87.4.47.34|2020-11-19T12:34:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T12:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;87.4.47.34&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|87.4.47.34|2020-11-19T12:34:00.000Z|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T12:01:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T12:45:00.000Z|87.4.47.34|2020-11-19T12:34:00.000Z"></span>Sì, solo che chiamarli "farlocchi" senza sapere esattamente cosa fanno mi sembra un po' eccessivo. Attendiamo chi ne sa di più, mi sembra che nel caso specifico non ci siano urgenze immediate. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Daimona_Eaytoy" title="Utente:Daimona Eaytoy"><span style="color: #696969; font-weight: bold; font-family: Segoe Print;">Daimona Eaytoy</span></a> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Daimona_Eaytoy" title="Discussioni utente:Daimona Eaytoy"><span style="color: black; font-size: small; font-family: cursive, serif;">(Scrivimi!)</span></a> 13:45, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T12:45:00.000Z|87.4.47.34|2020-11-19T12:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|87.4.47.34|2020-11-19T13:08:00.000Z|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T12:45:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T12:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Daimona Eaytoy&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T12:45:00.000Z|87.4.47.34|2020-11-19T12:34:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|87.4.47.34|2020-11-19T13:08:00.000Z|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T12:45:00.000Z"></span>Sì scusa <small><b>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Daimona_Eaytoy" title="Utente:Daimona Eaytoy">Daimona Eaytoy</a>]</b></small>, era tra virgolette e spiegavo subito dopo cosa intendevo: che causano blocchi per falso positivo (blocchi che, se non ricordo male, avevo visto più volte essere descritti sommariamente come "blocchi farlocchi", per tralsato ho fatto passare il farlocco al filtro che li causa).  Mi sembra un problema bello grave, e non è la prima volta che ne vedo segnalati qui allo Sportello, un utente bloccato per sbaglio potrebbe arrabbiarsi o anche solo stufarsi e non contribuire più. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/87.4.47.34" title="Speciale:Contributi/87.4.47.34">87.4.47.34</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:87.4.47.34" title="Discussioni utente:87.4.47.34">msg</a>) 14:08, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|87.4.47.34|2020-11-19T13:08:00.000Z|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T12:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T13:15:00.000Z|87.4.47.34|2020-11-19T13:08:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T13:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;87.4.47.34&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|87.4.47.34|2020-11-19T13:08:00.000Z|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T12:45:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T13:15:00.000Z|87.4.47.34|2020-11-19T13:08:00.000Z"></span>Su questo siamo d'accordo, anche se in questo caso l'utente non è stato bloccato, è solo stata impedita la modifica. Naturalmente limitare i falsi positivi è sempre una priorità, sebbene alle volte non sia immediato. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Daimona_Eaytoy" title="Utente:Daimona Eaytoy"><span style="color: #696969; font-weight: bold; font-family: Segoe Print;">Daimona Eaytoy</span></a> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Daimona_Eaytoy" title="Discussioni utente:Daimona Eaytoy"><span style="color: black; font-size: small; font-family: cursive, serif;">(Scrivimi!)</span></a> 14:15, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:9,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T13:15:00.000Z|87.4.47.34|2020-11-19T13:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|L736E|2020-11-19T18:42:00.000Z|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T13:15:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T13:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Daimona Eaytoy&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T13:15:00.000Z|87.4.47.34|2020-11-19T13:08:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|L736E|2020-11-19T18:42:00.000Z|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T13:15:00.000Z"></span>Diciamo che si deve anche ringraziare una buona parte di IP che utilizzano lo stesso provider e avevano preso di mira le pagine relative ai programmi TV per: scrivere anticipazioni, inserire dettagli e curiosità irrilevanti, inserire a manetta loghi e controloghi in barba a tutte le linee guida. Ad ogni modo, la soluzione più semplice è questa: createvi una utenza e agite come utenti registrati (oltretutto risulta anche più facile comunicare con gli altri utenti).--<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:L736E" title="Utente:L736E"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: #006600;">L736E</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:L736E" title="Discussioni utente:L736E"><span style="color: #330000; font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"><sup>l'adminalcolico</sup></span></a> 19:42, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:10,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|L736E|2020-11-19T18:42:00.000Z|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T13:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T18:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;L736E&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|L736E|2020-11-19T18:42:00.000Z|Daimona Eaytoy|2020-11-19T13:15:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|151.47.37.37|2020-11-19T19:31:00.000Z|37.159.55.114|2020-11-19T06:17:00.000Z"></span>Io non consiglio la registrazione di un'utenza, tutti i tuoi contributi verrebbero tenuti sott'occhio e ti creeresti una storia editoriale con cui verresti facilmente "etichettato" in senso ideologico da altri utenti e soprattutto da amministratori superficiali.--<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/151.47.37.37" title="Speciale:Contributi/151.47.37.37">151.47.37.37</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussioni_utente:151.47.37.37&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Discussioni utente:151.47.37.37 (la pagina non esiste)">msg</a>) 20:31, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|151.47.37.37|2020-11-19T19:31:00.000Z|37.159.55.114|2020-11-19T06:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Popop|2020-11-19T21:10:00.000Z|151.47.37.37|2020-11-19T19:31:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T19:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;151.47.37.37&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|151.47.37.37|2020-11-19T19:31:00.000Z|37.159.55.114|2020-11-19T06:17:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Popop|2020-11-19T21:10:00.000Z|151.47.37.37|2020-11-19T19:31:00.000Z"></span>Ovviamente non condivido l'opinione di 151.47.37.37 (infatti sono registrato :) però capisco anche che qualcuno possa desiderare di contribuire senza registrazione. Così, come soluzione provvisoria, finché non si risolvono i problemi relativi ai blocchi, 37.159.55.114, se vuole, potrebbe registrarsi, ma usare l'account esclusivamente nei casi in cui viene bloccato come IP. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Popop" title="Utente:Popop"><span style="color:red">P<sub>o</sub>p</span></a> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Popop" title="Discussioni utente:Popop"><span style="color:blue">O<sup>p</sup></span></a> 22:10, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Popop|2020-11-19T21:10:00.000Z|151.47.37.37|2020-11-19T19:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T21:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Popop&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Popop|2020-11-19T21:10:00.000Z|151.47.37.37|2020-11-19T19:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Aiuto_creazione_pagina_biografia" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Aiuto_creazione_pagina_biografia|2020-11-19T10:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Postcrosser|2020-11-19T10:13:00.000Z|Aiuto_creazione_pagina_biografia&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Aiuto_creazione_pagina_biografia|2020-11-19T10:13:00.000Z"></span>Aiuto creazione pagina biografia<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Aiuto_creazione_pagina_biografia|2020-11-19T10:13:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Postcrosser|2020-11-19T10:13:00.000Z|Aiuto_creazione_pagina_biografia"></span>Salve, vorrei creare una pagina Biografia. Ho creato la bozza nella mia Sandbox, e vorrei consigli su come impostare il testo in maniera più efficace. COme posso fare? Potrei avere un tutor?
 AVrei bisogno anche di allegare una foto di cui ho l'autorizzazione. 
@@ -228,52 +228,52 @@ Grazie
 <dd>- il testo sembra interamente copiato dal sito del biografato, e questo non va bene. A meno che un testo non sia esplicitamente rilasciato con licenza libera, ossia utilizzabile da chiunque, copiandolo si incorre in una violazione di copyright. Questa cosa ti era già stata fatta notare a fine ottobre nella tua pagina di discussione.</dd>
 <dd>- non sono indicate le fonti da cui hai preso le informazioni. Mentre non si può copiare, è invece necessario prendere le informazioni - rielaborando il testo - da fonti terze e indicare con le note (i numerini che vedi in mezzo al testo se provi ad aprire una voce a caso) quali sono queste fonti. Se per dei dati biografici può andare bene il sito ufficiale dle biografato, per confermare la sua rilevanza servono invece delle fonti diverse, come possono essere monografie, saggi, articoli di giornale...</dd>
 <dd>- con quel lunghissimo elenco di mostre la voce al momento è impostata come un curriculum, il che non va bene. Inoltre elencand così tante esposizioni e pubblicazioni non è possibile capire quali sono le più rilevanti e quali sono minori. Personalmente eliminerei in blocco tutta la parte sulle esposizioni collettive, e scremerei quelle delle personali e le pubblicazioni lasciando solo le più importanti.</dd>
-<dd>- in ultimo, se stai scrivendo la voce su commissione, a pagamento o anche come favore personale, devi indicarlo nella tua pagina utente --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Postcrosser" title="Utente:Postcrosser">Postcrosser</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Postcrosser" title="Discussioni utente:Postcrosser">msg</a>) 11:13, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Postcrosser|2020-11-19T10:13:00.000Z|Aiuto_creazione_pagina_biografia&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T10:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Postcrosser&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Postcrosser|2020-11-19T10:13:00.000Z|Aiuto_creazione_pagina_biografia"></span></dd></dl>
+<dd>- in ultimo, se stai scrivendo la voce su commissione, a pagamento o anche come favore personale, devi indicarlo nella tua pagina utente --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Postcrosser" title="Utente:Postcrosser">Postcrosser</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Postcrosser" title="Discussioni utente:Postcrosser">msg</a>) 11:13, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Postcrosser|2020-11-19T10:13:00.000Z|Aiuto_creazione_pagina_biografia&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T10:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Postcrosser&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Postcrosser|2020-11-19T10:13:00.000Z|Aiuto_creazione_pagina_biografia"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Brigataes" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Brigataes|2020-11-19T13:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|LuiDeLu|2020-11-19T13:21:00.000Z|Brigataes&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Brigataes|2020-11-19T13:21:00.000Z"></span>Brigataes<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Brigataes|2020-11-19T13:21:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|LuiDeLu|2020-11-19T13:21:00.000Z|Brigataes"></span>Ciao :)
 Ho scritto una voce nella mia pagina di prova, ho fatto alcune correzioni richiesta da moderatori, e adesso vorrei renderla pubblica: come devo procedere? Ci sono istruzioni specifiche da seguire?
 Ho anche inserito delle foto nella pagina: le prime tre sono andate in porto mentre la quarta non viene caricata perché non sono un utente autoconvalidato o un admin o un utente convalidato. Cosa si fa in questi casi? La foto è correttamente caricata e visibile su Wikicommon. 
-Resto in attesa di chiarimenti per procedere, grazie! --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:LuiDeLu&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:LuiDeLu (la pagina non esiste)">LuiDeLu</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:LuiDeLu" title="Discussioni utente:LuiDeLu">msg</a>) 14:21, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|LuiDeLu|2020-11-19T13:21:00.000Z|Brigataes&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T14:48:00.000Z|LuiDeLu|2020-11-19T13:21:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T13:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;LuiDeLu&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|LuiDeLu|2020-11-19T13:21:00.000Z|Brigataes"></span>
+Resto in attesa di chiarimenti per procedere, grazie! --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:LuiDeLu&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:LuiDeLu (la pagina non esiste)">LuiDeLu</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:LuiDeLu" title="Discussioni utente:LuiDeLu">msg</a>) 14:21, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|LuiDeLu|2020-11-19T13:21:00.000Z|Brigataes&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T14:48:00.000Z|LuiDeLu|2020-11-19T13:21:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T13:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;LuiDeLu&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|LuiDeLu|2020-11-19T13:21:00.000Z|Brigataes"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T14:48:00.000Z|LuiDeLu|2020-11-19T13:21:00.000Z"></span>Sto facendo da "tutor" all'utente, ora non posso scrivere una risposta esauriente. Il problema principale sono le fonti, se qualcuni ha tempo di dare una buona risposta mi farebbe un grande favore--<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;text-shadow:1px 1px 1px purple"><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:ValeJappo" title="Utente:ValeJappo"><span style="color:white">Val<span style="color:red">eJa</span>ppo</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:ValeJappo" title="Discussioni utente:ValeJappo"><small style="color:red">【〒】</small></a></span> 15:48, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T14:48:00.000Z|LuiDeLu|2020-11-19T13:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T14:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ValeJappo&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T14:48:00.000Z|LuiDeLu|2020-11-19T13:21:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T14:48:00.000Z|LuiDeLu|2020-11-19T13:21:00.000Z"></span>Sto facendo da "tutor" all'utente, ora non posso scrivere una risposta esauriente. Il problema principale sono le fonti, se qualcuni ha tempo di dare una buona risposta mi farebbe un grande favore--<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;text-shadow:1px 1px 1px purple"><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:ValeJappo" title="Utente:ValeJappo"><span style="color:white">Val<span style="color:red">eJa</span>ppo</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:ValeJappo" title="Discussioni utente:ValeJappo"><small style="color:red">【〒】</small></a></span> 15:48, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T14:48:00.000Z|LuiDeLu|2020-11-19T13:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T14:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ValeJappo&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T14:48:00.000Z|LuiDeLu|2020-11-19T13:21:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Ricerca_vecchie_discussione_nel_Bar" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Ricerca_vecchie_discussione_nel_Bar|2020-11-19T17:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T17:11:00.000Z|Ricerca_vecchie_discussione_nel_Bar&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Ricerca_vecchie_discussione_nel_Bar|2020-11-19T17:11:00.000Z"></span>Ricerca vecchie discussione nel Bar<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Ricerca_vecchie_discussione_nel_Bar|2020-11-19T17:11:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T17:11:00.000Z|Ricerca_vecchie_discussione_nel_Bar"></span>Come si cercano le discussione passate nel Bar? Ho provata l'apposita ricerca "Cerca nel bar" ma non funziona, appaiono solo voci di Wikipedia. Cerco una discussione dove si era parlato di Mortadella ma non riesco a trovarla. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Scalorbio" title="Utente:Scalorbio">Scalorbio</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Scalorbio" title="Discussioni utente:Scalorbio">msg</a>) 18:11, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T17:11:00.000Z|Ricerca_vecchie_discussione_nel_Bar&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|GryffindorD|2020-11-19T17:18:00.000Z|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T17:11:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T17:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Scalorbio&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T17:11:00.000Z|Ricerca_vecchie_discussione_nel_Bar"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T17:11:00.000Z|Ricerca_vecchie_discussione_nel_Bar"></span>Come si cercano le discussione passate nel Bar? Ho provata l'apposita ricerca "Cerca nel bar" ma non funziona, appaiono solo voci di Wikipedia. Cerco una discussione dove si era parlato di Mortadella ma non riesco a trovarla. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Scalorbio" title="Utente:Scalorbio">Scalorbio</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Scalorbio" title="Discussioni utente:Scalorbio">msg</a>) 18:11, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T17:11:00.000Z|Ricerca_vecchie_discussione_nel_Bar&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|GryffindorD|2020-11-19T17:18:00.000Z|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T17:11:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T17:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Scalorbio&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T17:11:00.000Z|Ricerca_vecchie_discussione_nel_Bar"></span>
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-<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|GryffindorD|2020-11-19T17:18:00.000Z|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T17:11:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Scalorbio" title="Utente:Scalorbio">Scalorbio</a>]</b></small> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bar/2020_10_10" title="Wikipedia:Bar/2020 10 10">questa</a>? Che rimanda a <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussione:Mortadella&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Discussione:Mortadella (la pagina non esiste)">Discussione:Mortadella</a>. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:GryffindorD" title="Discussioni utente:GryffindorD"><span style="color:#007FFF"><b>GryffindorD</b></span></a> 18:18, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GryffindorD|2020-11-19T17:18:00.000Z|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T17:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T17:31:00.000Z|GryffindorD|2020-11-19T17:18:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T17:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GryffindorD&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GryffindorD|2020-11-19T17:18:00.000Z|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T17:11:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T17:31:00.000Z|GryffindorD|2020-11-19T17:18:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:GryffindorD" title="Utente:GryffindorD">GryffindorD</a>]</b></small> Sì, è quella, grazie! :) Come hai fatto a trovarla? --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Scalorbio" title="Utente:Scalorbio">Scalorbio</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Scalorbio" title="Discussioni utente:Scalorbio">msg</a>) 18:31, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T17:31:00.000Z|GryffindorD|2020-11-19T17:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|GryffindorD|2020-11-19T17:36:00.000Z|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T17:31:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T17:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Scalorbio&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T17:31:00.000Z|GryffindorD|2020-11-19T17:18:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|GryffindorD|2020-11-19T17:36:00.000Z|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T17:31:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Scalorbio" title="Utente:Scalorbio">Scalorbio</a>]</b></small> con "Cerca nel bar" ma aggiungendo le virgolette <a class="external text" href="https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Ricerca?search=%22mortadella%22&amp;prefix=Wikipedia%3ABar&amp;ns4=1&amp;fulltext=Vai"><i>mortadella</i></a> per avere più precisione :) --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:GryffindorD" title="Discussioni utente:GryffindorD"><span style="color:#007FFF"><b>GryffindorD</b></span></a> 18:36, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GryffindorD|2020-11-19T17:36:00.000Z|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T17:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T17:39:00.000Z|GryffindorD|2020-11-19T17:36:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T17:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GryffindorD&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GryffindorD|2020-11-19T17:36:00.000Z|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T17:31:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T17:39:00.000Z|GryffindorD|2020-11-19T17:36:00.000Z"></span>Ohhhhh... e pensare che lo uso spesso anche su Google ;) Grazie ancora --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Scalorbio" title="Utente:Scalorbio">Scalorbio</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Scalorbio" title="Discussioni utente:Scalorbio">msg</a>) 18:39, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T17:39:00.000Z|GryffindorD|2020-11-19T17:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T17:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Scalorbio&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T17:39:00.000Z|GryffindorD|2020-11-19T17:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|GryffindorD|2020-11-19T17:18:00.000Z|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T17:11:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Scalorbio" title="Utente:Scalorbio">Scalorbio</a>]</b></small> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bar/2020_10_10" title="Wikipedia:Bar/2020 10 10">questa</a>? Che rimanda a <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussione:Mortadella&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Discussione:Mortadella (la pagina non esiste)">Discussione:Mortadella</a>. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:GryffindorD" title="Discussioni utente:GryffindorD"><span style="color:#007FFF"><b>GryffindorD</b></span></a> 18:18, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GryffindorD|2020-11-19T17:18:00.000Z|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T17:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T17:31:00.000Z|GryffindorD|2020-11-19T17:18:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T17:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GryffindorD&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GryffindorD|2020-11-19T17:18:00.000Z|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T17:11:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T17:31:00.000Z|GryffindorD|2020-11-19T17:18:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:GryffindorD" title="Utente:GryffindorD">GryffindorD</a>]</b></small> Sì, è quella, grazie! :) Come hai fatto a trovarla? --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Scalorbio" title="Utente:Scalorbio">Scalorbio</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Scalorbio" title="Discussioni utente:Scalorbio">msg</a>) 18:31, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T17:31:00.000Z|GryffindorD|2020-11-19T17:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|GryffindorD|2020-11-19T17:36:00.000Z|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T17:31:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T17:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Scalorbio&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T17:31:00.000Z|GryffindorD|2020-11-19T17:18:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|GryffindorD|2020-11-19T17:36:00.000Z|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T17:31:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Scalorbio" title="Utente:Scalorbio">Scalorbio</a>]</b></small> con "Cerca nel bar" ma aggiungendo le virgolette <a class="external text" href="https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Ricerca?search=%22mortadella%22&amp;prefix=Wikipedia%3ABar&amp;ns4=1&amp;fulltext=Vai"><i>mortadella</i></a> per avere più precisione :) --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:GryffindorD" title="Discussioni utente:GryffindorD"><span style="color:#007FFF"><b>GryffindorD</b></span></a> 18:36, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GryffindorD|2020-11-19T17:36:00.000Z|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T17:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T17:39:00.000Z|GryffindorD|2020-11-19T17:36:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T17:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GryffindorD&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GryffindorD|2020-11-19T17:36:00.000Z|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T17:31:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T17:39:00.000Z|GryffindorD|2020-11-19T17:36:00.000Z"></span>Ohhhhh... e pensare che lo uso spesso anche su Google ;) Grazie ancora --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Scalorbio" title="Utente:Scalorbio">Scalorbio</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Scalorbio" title="Discussioni utente:Scalorbio">msg</a>) 18:39, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T17:39:00.000Z|GryffindorD|2020-11-19T17:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T17:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Scalorbio&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T17:39:00.000Z|GryffindorD|2020-11-19T17:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Rinomina_disambigua_ecc." data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Rinomina_disambigua_ecc.|2020-11-19T18:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:09:00.000Z|Rinomina_disambigua_ecc.&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Rinomina_disambigua_ecc.|2020-11-19T18:09:00.000Z"></span>Rinomina disambigua ecc.<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Rinomina_disambigua_ecc.|2020-11-19T18:09:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:09:00.000Z|Rinomina_disambigua_ecc."></span>Devo fare questo: rinominare la disambigua <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortadella" title="Mortadella">Mortadella</a> in "Mortadella (disambigua)" o creare la voce ex-novo (il tutto è stato <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussione:Mortadella&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Discussione:Mortadella (la pagina non esiste)">concordato al Bar</a>), nella voce "Mortadella" sostituire il contenuto con quello della mia attuale <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Scalorbio/Sandbox" title="Utente:Scalorbio/Sandbox">sandbox</a> in modo che la disambigua diventi voce a se, ho già fatto cambi nome, scorpori e spostamenti solo che in questo caso non vorrei fare casini, p.e. avere problemi con i redirect o voci che attualmente puntano a disambigua Mortadella (in particolare quelle che non si riferiscono al salume), come devo fare? Preferirei la spiegazione o relativi link al manuale e non che qualcuno lo fa per me perché così in futuro so come fare, grazie :) --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Scalorbio" title="Utente:Scalorbio">Scalorbio</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Scalorbio" title="Discussioni utente:Scalorbio">msg</a>) 19:09, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:09:00.000Z|Rinomina_disambigua_ecc.&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:23:00.000Z|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:09:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T18:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Scalorbio&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:09:00.000Z|Rinomina_disambigua_ecc."></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:09:00.000Z|Rinomina_disambigua_ecc."></span>Devo fare questo: rinominare la disambigua <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortadella" title="Mortadella">Mortadella</a> in "Mortadella (disambigua)" o creare la voce ex-novo (il tutto è stato <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussione:Mortadella&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Discussione:Mortadella (la pagina non esiste)">concordato al Bar</a>), nella voce "Mortadella" sostituire il contenuto con quello della mia attuale <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Scalorbio/Sandbox" title="Utente:Scalorbio/Sandbox">sandbox</a> in modo che la disambigua diventi voce a se, ho già fatto cambi nome, scorpori e spostamenti solo che in questo caso non vorrei fare casini, p.e. avere problemi con i redirect o voci che attualmente puntano a disambigua Mortadella (in particolare quelle che non si riferiscono al salume), come devo fare? Preferirei la spiegazione o relativi link al manuale e non che qualcuno lo fa per me perché così in futuro so come fare, grazie :) --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Scalorbio" title="Utente:Scalorbio">Scalorbio</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Scalorbio" title="Discussioni utente:Scalorbio">msg</a>) 19:09, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:09:00.000Z|Rinomina_disambigua_ecc.&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:23:00.000Z|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:09:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T18:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Scalorbio&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:09:00.000Z|Rinomina_disambigua_ecc."></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:23:00.000Z|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:09:00.000Z"></span>Fatto, mi sembra non sia esploso niente :) --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Scalorbio" title="Utente:Scalorbio">Scalorbio</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Scalorbio" title="Discussioni utente:Scalorbio">msg</a>) 19:23, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:23:00.000Z|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:27:00.000Z|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:23:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T18:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Scalorbio&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:23:00.000Z|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:09:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:27:00.000Z|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:23:00.000Z"></span>Scusate ancora, nella <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortadella" title="Mortadella">nuova voce</a> è opportuno chiedere la cancellazione della talk? --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Scalorbio" title="Utente:Scalorbio">Scalorbio</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Scalorbio" title="Discussioni utente:Scalorbio">msg</a>) 19:27, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:27:00.000Z|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T18:28:00.000Z|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T18:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Scalorbio&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:27:00.000Z|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:23:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T18:28:00.000Z|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:27:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Scalorbio" title="Utente:Scalorbio">Scalorbio</a>]</b></small> Esatto, stavo proprio per scrivertelo. Devi mettere la talk in C9--<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;text-shadow:1px 1px 1px purple"><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:ValeJappo" title="Utente:ValeJappo"><span style="color:white">Val<span style="color:red">eJa</span>ppo</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:ValeJappo" title="Discussioni utente:ValeJappo"><small style="color:red">【〒】</small></a></span> 19:28, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T18:28:00.000Z|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:30:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T18:28:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T18:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ValeJappo&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T18:28:00.000Z|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:27:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:30:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T18:28:00.000Z"></span>Ok, grazie :) --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Scalorbio" title="Utente:Scalorbio">Scalorbio</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Scalorbio" title="Discussioni utente:Scalorbio">msg</a>) 19:30, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:30:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T18:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T18:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Scalorbio&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:30:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T18:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:23:00.000Z|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:09:00.000Z"></span>Fatto, mi sembra non sia esploso niente :) --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Scalorbio" title="Utente:Scalorbio">Scalorbio</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Scalorbio" title="Discussioni utente:Scalorbio">msg</a>) 19:23, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:23:00.000Z|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:27:00.000Z|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:23:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T18:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Scalorbio&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:23:00.000Z|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:09:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:27:00.000Z|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:23:00.000Z"></span>Scusate ancora, nella <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortadella" title="Mortadella">nuova voce</a> è opportuno chiedere la cancellazione della talk? --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Scalorbio" title="Utente:Scalorbio">Scalorbio</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Scalorbio" title="Discussioni utente:Scalorbio">msg</a>) 19:27, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:27:00.000Z|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T18:28:00.000Z|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T18:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Scalorbio&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:27:00.000Z|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:23:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T18:28:00.000Z|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:27:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Scalorbio" title="Utente:Scalorbio">Scalorbio</a>]</b></small> Esatto, stavo proprio per scrivertelo. Devi mettere la talk in C9--<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;text-shadow:1px 1px 1px purple"><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:ValeJappo" title="Utente:ValeJappo"><span style="color:white">Val<span style="color:red">eJa</span>ppo</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:ValeJappo" title="Discussioni utente:ValeJappo"><small style="color:red">【〒】</small></a></span> 19:28, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T18:28:00.000Z|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:30:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T18:28:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T18:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ValeJappo&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T18:28:00.000Z|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:27:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:30:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T18:28:00.000Z"></span>Ok, grazie :) --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Scalorbio" title="Utente:Scalorbio">Scalorbio</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Scalorbio" title="Discussioni utente:Scalorbio">msg</a>) 19:30, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:30:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T18:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T18:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Scalorbio&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Scalorbio|2020-11-19T18:30:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-19T18:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Paolo_Boninsegna" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Paolo_Boninsegna|2020-11-19T20:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Vale93b|2020-11-19T20:38:00.000Z|Paolo_Boninsegna&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Paolo_Boninsegna|2020-11-19T20:38:00.000Z"></span>Paolo Boninsegna<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Paolo_Boninsegna|2020-11-19T20:38:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Vale93b|2020-11-19T20:38:00.000Z|Paolo_Boninsegna"></span>Vorrei inserirmi su Wikipedia con la spiegazione di chi sono con la foto e tutto come faccio? <small>— <i>Questo commento senza la <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Firma" title="Aiuto:Firma">firma utente</a> è stato inserito da 37.159.3.147 (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussioni_utente:37.159.3.147&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Discussioni utente:37.159.3.147 (la pagina non esiste)">discussioni</a> · <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/37.159.3.147" title="Speciale:Contributi/37.159.3.147">contributi</a>)</i>.</small>
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-<dl><dd>la domanda denota un approccio sbagliato alla <i>res</i> Wikipedia, che non è un social network né uno spazio per blog, sicché credo dovresti evitare. Suggerisco la lettura di <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Cosa_Wikipedia_non_%C3%A8" title="Wikipedia:Cosa Wikipedia non è">WP:Cosa Wikipedia non è</a> e <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AUTOBIOGRAFIE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AUTOBIOGRAFIE">WP:AUTOBIOGRAFIE</a>. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Vale93b" title="Utente:Vale93b"><span style="color:green"><b>Vale</b></span><span style="background:darkgreen"><span style="color:gold"><b>93b</b></span></span></a> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Vale93b" title="Discussioni utente:Vale93b"><span style="color:blue"><sup><b>Fatti sentire!</b></sup></span></a> 21:38, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vale93b|2020-11-19T20:38:00.000Z|Paolo_Boninsegna&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T20:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vale93b&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Vale93b|2020-11-19T20:38:00.000Z|Paolo_Boninsegna"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd>la domanda denota un approccio sbagliato alla <i>res</i> Wikipedia, che non è un social network né uno spazio per blog, sicché credo dovresti evitare. Suggerisco la lettura di <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Cosa_Wikipedia_non_%C3%A8" title="Wikipedia:Cosa Wikipedia non è">WP:Cosa Wikipedia non è</a> e <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AUTOBIOGRAFIE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AUTOBIOGRAFIE">WP:AUTOBIOGRAFIE</a>. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Vale93b" title="Utente:Vale93b"><span style="color:green"><b>Vale</b></span><span style="background:darkgreen"><span style="color:gold"><b>93b</b></span></span></a> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Vale93b" title="Discussioni utente:Vale93b"><span style="color:blue"><sup><b>Fatti sentire!</b></sup></span></a> 21:38, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vale93b|2020-11-19T20:38:00.000Z|Paolo_Boninsegna&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T20:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vale93b&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Vale93b|2020-11-19T20:38:00.000Z|Paolo_Boninsegna"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Archivio_discussione_utente" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Archivio_discussione_utente|2020-11-19T20:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Janik98|2020-11-19T20:51:00.000Z|Archivio_discussione_utente&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Archivio_discussione_utente|2020-11-19T20:51:00.000Z"></span>Archivio discussione utente<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Archivio_discussione_utente|2020-11-19T20:51:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Janik98|2020-11-19T20:51:00.000Z|Archivio_discussione_utente"></span>Faccio davvero fatica a districarmi tra le varie pagine che spiegano la cosa, ma come si fa ad archiviare la propria pagina di discussione?--<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Janik98" title="Utente:Janik98">Janik</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Janik98" title="Discussioni utente:Janik98">msg</a>) 21:51, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Janik98|2020-11-19T20:51:00.000Z|Archivio_discussione_utente&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Civv\u00ec|2020-11-19T20:54:00.000Z|Janik98|2020-11-19T20:51:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T20:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Janik98&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Janik98|2020-11-19T20:51:00.000Z|Archivio_discussione_utente"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Janik98|2020-11-19T20:51:00.000Z|Archivio_discussione_utente"></span>Faccio davvero fatica a districarmi tra le varie pagine che spiegano la cosa, ma come si fa ad archiviare la propria pagina di discussione?--<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Janik98" title="Utente:Janik98">Janik</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Janik98" title="Discussioni utente:Janik98">msg</a>) 21:51, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Janik98|2020-11-19T20:51:00.000Z|Archivio_discussione_utente&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Civv\u00ec|2020-11-19T20:54:00.000Z|Janik98|2020-11-19T20:51:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T20:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Janik98&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Janik98|2020-11-19T20:51:00.000Z|Archivio_discussione_utente"></span>
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-<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Civvì|2020-11-19T20:54:00.000Z|Janik98|2020-11-19T20:51:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Janik98" title="Utente:Janik98">Janik98</a>]</b></small> il modo più semplice è quello di spostarla a "Discussioni utente:Janik98/archivio 1" o come preferisci chiamare gli archivi, poi devi ricreare la pagina di discussione. --<span style="font-family:Linux_Libertine;"><b><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Civv%C3%AC" title="Utente:Civvì"><span style="color:purple;">Civvì</span></a></b>  <small><span style="color:blue;">(<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Civv%C3%AC" title="Discussioni utente:Civvì">Parliamone...</a>)</span></small></span> 21:54, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Civv\u00ec|2020-11-19T20:54:00.000Z|Janik98|2020-11-19T20:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T20:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Civv\u00ec&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Civvì|2020-11-19T20:54:00.000Z|Janik98|2020-11-19T20:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Civvì|2020-11-19T20:54:00.000Z|Janik98|2020-11-19T20:51:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Janik98" title="Utente:Janik98">Janik98</a>]</b></small> il modo più semplice è quello di spostarla a "Discussioni utente:Janik98/archivio 1" o come preferisci chiamare gli archivi, poi devi ricreare la pagina di discussione. --<span style="font-family:Linux_Libertine;"><b><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Civv%C3%AC" title="Utente:Civvì"><span style="color:purple;">Civvì</span></a></b>  <small><span style="color:blue;">(<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Civv%C3%AC" title="Discussioni utente:Civvì">Parliamone...</a>)</span></small></span> 21:54, 19 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Civv\u00ec|2020-11-19T20:54:00.000Z|Janik98|2020-11-19T20:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-19T20:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Civv\u00ec&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Civvì|2020-11-19T20:54:00.000Z|Janik98|2020-11-19T20:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Commenti_inutili_sulle_pagine_di_discussione" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Commenti_inutili_sulle_pagine_di_discussione|2020-11-20T11:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Syphax98|2020-11-20T11:09:00.000Z|Commenti_inutili_sulle_pagine_di_discussione&quot;,&quot;c|Syphax98|2020-11-20T12:18:00.000Z|Commenti_inutili_sulle_pagine_di_discussione&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Commenti_inutili_sulle_pagine_di_discussione|2020-11-20T11:09:00.000Z"></span>Commenti inutili sulle pagine di discussione<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Commenti_inutili_sulle_pagine_di_discussione|2020-11-20T11:09:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Syphax98|2020-11-20T11:09:00.000Z|Commenti_inutili_sulle_pagine_di_discussione"></span>Ciao, ultimamente ho cancellato opinioni e commenti inutili (e talvolta, se mi posso permettere, anche abbastanza deliranti) lasciati da utenti anonimi su varie pagine di discussione e che nulla hanno a che fare con la voce alla quale è riservata la pagina. Dal momento che <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:TALK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TALK">WP:TALK</a> precisa che le pagine di discussione non costituiscono dei forum, vorrei comunque assicurarmi che il mio operato sia corretto. Prego di pingarmi. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Syphax98" title="Utente:Syphax98">Syphax98</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Syphax98" title="Discussioni utente:Syphax98">msg</a>) 12:09, 20 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Syphax98|2020-11-20T11:09:00.000Z|Commenti_inutili_sulle_pagine_di_discussione&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Agilix|2020-11-20T11:18:00.000Z|Syphax98|2020-11-20T11:09:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-20T11:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Syphax98&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Syphax98|2020-11-20T11:09:00.000Z|Commenti_inutili_sulle_pagine_di_discussione"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Syphax98|2020-11-20T11:09:00.000Z|Commenti_inutili_sulle_pagine_di_discussione"></span>Ciao, ultimamente ho cancellato opinioni e commenti inutili (e talvolta, se mi posso permettere, anche abbastanza deliranti) lasciati da utenti anonimi su varie pagine di discussione e che nulla hanno a che fare con la voce alla quale è riservata la pagina. Dal momento che <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:TALK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TALK">WP:TALK</a> precisa che le pagine di discussione non costituiscono dei forum, vorrei comunque assicurarmi che il mio operato sia corretto. Prego di pingarmi. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Syphax98" title="Utente:Syphax98">Syphax98</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Syphax98" title="Discussioni utente:Syphax98">msg</a>) 12:09, 20 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Syphax98|2020-11-20T11:09:00.000Z|Commenti_inutili_sulle_pagine_di_discussione&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Agilix|2020-11-20T11:18:00.000Z|Syphax98|2020-11-20T11:09:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-20T11:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Syphax98&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Syphax98|2020-11-20T11:09:00.000Z|Commenti_inutili_sulle_pagine_di_discussione"></span>
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-<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Agilix|2020-11-20T11:18:00.000Z|Syphax98|2020-11-20T11:09:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Syphax98" title="Utente:Syphax98">Syphax98</a>]</b></small> parlo a titolo personale, ma secondo me, piuttosto che cancellare gli interventi, è meglio apporre l'avviso {{<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:WNF" title="Template:WNF">WNF</a>}}, o eventualmente, se troppo lunghi, cassettarli. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Agilix" title="Utente:Agilix"><i><b>Agilix</b></i></a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Agilix" title="Discussioni utente:Agilix">msg</a>) 12:18, 20 nov 2020 (CET)Cancellare un intervento per me non è mai simpatico.<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Agilix|2020-11-20T11:18:00.000Z|Syphax98|2020-11-20T11:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-20T11:20:00.000Z|Agilix|2020-11-20T11:18:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-20T11:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Agilix&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Agilix|2020-11-20T11:18:00.000Z|Syphax98|2020-11-20T11:09:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-20T11:20:00.000Z|Agilix|2020-11-20T11:18:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Syphax98" title="Utente:Syphax98">Syphax98</a>]</b></small> io li eliminerei solo nel caso siano palesemente troll o commenti inutili, non adatti ad una pagina di discussione. Nel caso pensi possa dare fastidio una loro rimozione, inseriscili tra i tag &lt;del>x&lt;/del> in modo da striccarli, (<del>esempio</del>) --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;text-shadow:1px 1px 1px purple"><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:ValeJappo" title="Utente:ValeJappo"><span style="color:white">Val<span style="color:red">eJa</span>ppo</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:ValeJappo" title="Discussioni utente:ValeJappo"><small style="color:red">【〒】</small></a></span> 12:20, 20 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-20T11:20:00.000Z|Agilix|2020-11-20T11:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Syphax98|2020-11-20T11:35:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-20T11:20:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-20T11:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ValeJappo&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-20T11:20:00.000Z|Agilix|2020-11-20T11:18:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Syphax98|2020-11-20T11:35:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-20T11:20:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Agilix" title="Utente:Agilix">Agilix</a>, <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:ValeJappo" title="Utente:ValeJappo">ValeJappo</a>]</b></small> Io ho proceduto a cancellare questi commenti dal momento che ho notato che anche altri utenti con maggiore esperienza hanno proceduto in questo modo. Non parlo solo di troll, ma anche di POV e insulti (personalmente non credo che possa dar fastidio una rimozione di commenti palesemente troll e POV, anzi, credo sia doveroso cancellarli, dal momento che IMHO inquinano la pagina). Il {{<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:WNF" title="Template:WNF">WNF</a>}}, nel caso di commenti non controversi, mi è già capitato di usarlo, infatti. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Syphax98" title="Utente:Syphax98">Syphax98</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Syphax98" title="Discussioni utente:Syphax98">msg</a>) 12:35, 20 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Syphax98|2020-11-20T11:35:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-20T11:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Agilix|2020-11-20T11:46:00.000Z|Syphax98|2020-11-20T11:35:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-20T11:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Syphax98&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Syphax98|2020-11-20T11:35:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-20T11:20:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Agilix|2020-11-20T11:46:00.000Z|Syphax98|2020-11-20T11:35:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Syphax98" title="Utente:Syphax98">Syphax98</a>]</b></small> per le trollate, volendo, abbiamo anche {{<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Troll" title="Template:Troll">troll</a>}}, {{<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Troll2" title="Template:Troll2">troll2</a>}}, {{<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Troll3" title="Template:Troll3">troll3</a>}}. Io cancellerei solo i commenti palesemente ingiuriosi o le violazioni di copyright, ma, ripeto, è una mia sensibilità personale. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Agilix" title="Utente:Agilix"><i><b>Agilix</b></i></a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Agilix" title="Discussioni utente:Agilix">msg</a>) 12:46, 20 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Agilix|2020-11-20T11:46:00.000Z|Syphax98|2020-11-20T11:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Idraulico liquido|2020-11-20T11:57:00.000Z|Agilix|2020-11-20T11:46:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-20T11:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Agilix&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Agilix|2020-11-20T11:46:00.000Z|Syphax98|2020-11-20T11:35:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Idraulico liquido|2020-11-20T11:57:00.000Z|Agilix|2020-11-20T11:46:00.000Z"></span>Sono contrario a cancellare commenti. D'altronde esistono per questo i tmp troll e forum. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Idraulico_liquido" title="Utente:Idraulico liquido"> --1dr4uI1c0</a> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Idraulico_liquido" title="Discussioni utente:Idraulico liquido">(<span style="color:">msg</span>)</a> 12:57, 20 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Idraulico liquido|2020-11-20T11:57:00.000Z|Agilix|2020-11-20T11:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Pierpao|2020-11-20T12:14:00.000Z|Idraulico liquido|2020-11-20T11:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Pierpao|2020-11-20T12:16:00.000Z|Idraulico liquido|2020-11-20T11:57:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-20T11:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Idraulico liquido&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Idraulico liquido|2020-11-20T11:57:00.000Z|Agilix|2020-11-20T11:46:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Pierpao|2020-11-20T12:14:00.000Z|Idraulico liquido|2020-11-20T11:57:00.000Z"></span>Non è una cosa oggetto di discussione. La regola esiste: le discussioni non si cancellano. <small><b>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Syphax98" title="Utente:Syphax98">Syphax98</a>]</b></small> Se uno vuole cancellare una cosa sua perchè ha cambiato idea usa <code>&lt;del>...&lt;/del></code>. Questa è una comunità con un codice di condotta, appunto non un forum o facebook, dagli utenti ci si aspetta un certo comportamento, prima di tutto il rispetto degli altri, compreso quello che scrivono, anche se è sbagliato, nessuno si erge a giudice, poi non bisogna <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:MORDERE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MORDERE">MORDERE</a> i nuovi arrivati, e ovviamente cancellare può essere offensivo, e sopratutto deve rimanere traccia di quello che uno scrive in modo che gli altri possano valutarne il comportamento anche se sono ip. Ci sono alcune rarissime eccezioni, ma è meglio lasciarle alla valutazione di chi ha molta molta esperienza. L'unica cosa ovvia è che se uno crea una pagina nuova scrivendo qualcosa di non Wikipediano si può cancellare la pagina, ma appunto lo valutano gli amministratori, che se è il caso ne lasciano traccia sulla Wiki dei sysop--<i><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Pierpao" title="Utente:Pierpao">Pierpao</a> <small><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Pierpao" title="Discussioni utente:Pierpao">(listening)</a></small></i> 13:14, 20 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pierpao|2020-11-20T12:14:00.000Z|Idraulico liquido|2020-11-20T11:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-20T12:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pierpao&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Pierpao|2020-11-20T12:14:00.000Z|Idraulico liquido|2020-11-20T11:57:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Pierpao|2020-11-20T12:16:00.000Z|Idraulico liquido|2020-11-20T11:57:00.000Z"></span>Si gli insulti i copyviol si cancellano ma anche lì avvisando gli amministratori che verificano la correttezza dell'operato.--<i><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Pierpao" title="Utente:Pierpao">Pierpao</a> <small><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Pierpao" title="Discussioni utente:Pierpao">(listening)</a></small></i> 13:16, 20 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pierpao|2020-11-20T12:16:00.000Z|Idraulico liquido|2020-11-20T11:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-20T12:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pierpao&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Pierpao|2020-11-20T12:16:00.000Z|Idraulico liquido|2020-11-20T11:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<p><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Syphax98|2020-11-20T12:18:00.000Z|Commenti_inutili_sulle_pagine_di_discussione"></span>[<abbr title="Rientrare significa ritornare all'inizio di una riga con l'indentazione di una discussione, quando essa si allunga troppo e rende i commenti più difficili da leggere.">←</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Glossario#Rientro" title="Aiuto:Glossario">Rientro</a>]</b></small> Grazie per le dritte, d'ora in poi eviterò di cancellare. Avendo avuto testimonianza di cancellazioni da parte di altri utenti, pensavo fosse corretto. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Syphax98" title="Utente:Syphax98">Syphax98</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Syphax98" title="Discussioni utente:Syphax98">msg</a>) 13:18, 20 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Syphax98|2020-11-20T12:18:00.000Z|Commenti_inutili_sulle_pagine_di_discussione&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Pierpao|2020-11-20T12:45:00.000Z|Syphax98|2020-11-20T12:18:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-20T12:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Syphax98&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Syphax98|2020-11-20T12:18:00.000Z|Commenti_inutili_sulle_pagine_di_discussione"></span>
+<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Agilix|2020-11-20T11:18:00.000Z|Syphax98|2020-11-20T11:09:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Syphax98" title="Utente:Syphax98">Syphax98</a>]</b></small> parlo a titolo personale, ma secondo me, piuttosto che cancellare gli interventi, è meglio apporre l'avviso {{<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:WNF" title="Template:WNF">WNF</a>}}, o eventualmente, se troppo lunghi, cassettarli. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Agilix" title="Utente:Agilix"><i><b>Agilix</b></i></a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Agilix" title="Discussioni utente:Agilix">msg</a>) 12:18, 20 nov 2020 (CET)Cancellare un intervento per me non è mai simpatico.<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Agilix|2020-11-20T11:18:00.000Z|Syphax98|2020-11-20T11:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-20T11:20:00.000Z|Agilix|2020-11-20T11:18:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-20T11:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Agilix&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Agilix|2020-11-20T11:18:00.000Z|Syphax98|2020-11-20T11:09:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-20T11:20:00.000Z|Agilix|2020-11-20T11:18:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Syphax98" title="Utente:Syphax98">Syphax98</a>]</b></small> io li eliminerei solo nel caso siano palesemente troll o commenti inutili, non adatti ad una pagina di discussione. Nel caso pensi possa dare fastidio una loro rimozione, inseriscili tra i tag &lt;del>x&lt;/del> in modo da striccarli, (<del>esempio</del>) --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;text-shadow:1px 1px 1px purple"><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:ValeJappo" title="Utente:ValeJappo"><span style="color:white">Val<span style="color:red">eJa</span>ppo</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:ValeJappo" title="Discussioni utente:ValeJappo"><small style="color:red">【〒】</small></a></span> 12:20, 20 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-20T11:20:00.000Z|Agilix|2020-11-20T11:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Syphax98|2020-11-20T11:35:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-20T11:20:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-20T11:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ValeJappo&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-20T11:20:00.000Z|Agilix|2020-11-20T11:18:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Syphax98|2020-11-20T11:35:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-20T11:20:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Agilix" title="Utente:Agilix">Agilix</a>, <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:ValeJappo" title="Utente:ValeJappo">ValeJappo</a>]</b></small> Io ho proceduto a cancellare questi commenti dal momento che ho notato che anche altri utenti con maggiore esperienza hanno proceduto in questo modo. Non parlo solo di troll, ma anche di POV e insulti (personalmente non credo che possa dar fastidio una rimozione di commenti palesemente troll e POV, anzi, credo sia doveroso cancellarli, dal momento che IMHO inquinano la pagina). Il {{<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:WNF" title="Template:WNF">WNF</a>}}, nel caso di commenti non controversi, mi è già capitato di usarlo, infatti. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Syphax98" title="Utente:Syphax98">Syphax98</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Syphax98" title="Discussioni utente:Syphax98">msg</a>) 12:35, 20 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Syphax98|2020-11-20T11:35:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-20T11:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Agilix|2020-11-20T11:46:00.000Z|Syphax98|2020-11-20T11:35:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-20T11:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Syphax98&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Syphax98|2020-11-20T11:35:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-20T11:20:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Agilix|2020-11-20T11:46:00.000Z|Syphax98|2020-11-20T11:35:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Syphax98" title="Utente:Syphax98">Syphax98</a>]</b></small> per le trollate, volendo, abbiamo anche {{<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Troll" title="Template:Troll">troll</a>}}, {{<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Troll2" title="Template:Troll2">troll2</a>}}, {{<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Troll3" title="Template:Troll3">troll3</a>}}. Io cancellerei solo i commenti palesemente ingiuriosi o le violazioni di copyright, ma, ripeto, è una mia sensibilità personale. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Agilix" title="Utente:Agilix"><i><b>Agilix</b></i></a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Agilix" title="Discussioni utente:Agilix">msg</a>) 12:46, 20 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Agilix|2020-11-20T11:46:00.000Z|Syphax98|2020-11-20T11:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Idraulico liquido|2020-11-20T11:57:00.000Z|Agilix|2020-11-20T11:46:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-20T11:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Agilix&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Agilix|2020-11-20T11:46:00.000Z|Syphax98|2020-11-20T11:35:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Idraulico liquido|2020-11-20T11:57:00.000Z|Agilix|2020-11-20T11:46:00.000Z"></span>Sono contrario a cancellare commenti. D'altronde esistono per questo i tmp troll e forum. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Idraulico_liquido" title="Utente:Idraulico liquido"> --1dr4uI1c0</a> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Idraulico_liquido" title="Discussioni utente:Idraulico liquido">(<span style="color:">msg</span>)</a> 12:57, 20 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Idraulico liquido|2020-11-20T11:57:00.000Z|Agilix|2020-11-20T11:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Pierpao|2020-11-20T12:14:00.000Z|Idraulico liquido|2020-11-20T11:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Pierpao|2020-11-20T12:16:00.000Z|Idraulico liquido|2020-11-20T11:57:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-20T11:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Idraulico liquido&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Idraulico liquido|2020-11-20T11:57:00.000Z|Agilix|2020-11-20T11:46:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Pierpao|2020-11-20T12:14:00.000Z|Idraulico liquido|2020-11-20T11:57:00.000Z"></span>Non è una cosa oggetto di discussione. La regola esiste: le discussioni non si cancellano. <small><b>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Syphax98" title="Utente:Syphax98">Syphax98</a>]</b></small> Se uno vuole cancellare una cosa sua perchè ha cambiato idea usa <code>&lt;del>...&lt;/del></code>. Questa è una comunità con un codice di condotta, appunto non un forum o facebook, dagli utenti ci si aspetta un certo comportamento, prima di tutto il rispetto degli altri, compreso quello che scrivono, anche se è sbagliato, nessuno si erge a giudice, poi non bisogna <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:MORDERE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MORDERE">MORDERE</a> i nuovi arrivati, e ovviamente cancellare può essere offensivo, e sopratutto deve rimanere traccia di quello che uno scrive in modo che gli altri possano valutarne il comportamento anche se sono ip. Ci sono alcune rarissime eccezioni, ma è meglio lasciarle alla valutazione di chi ha molta molta esperienza. L'unica cosa ovvia è che se uno crea una pagina nuova scrivendo qualcosa di non Wikipediano si può cancellare la pagina, ma appunto lo valutano gli amministratori, che se è il caso ne lasciano traccia sulla Wiki dei sysop--<i><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Pierpao" title="Utente:Pierpao">Pierpao</a> <small><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Pierpao" title="Discussioni utente:Pierpao">(listening)</a></small></i> 13:14, 20 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pierpao|2020-11-20T12:14:00.000Z|Idraulico liquido|2020-11-20T11:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-20T12:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pierpao&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Pierpao|2020-11-20T12:14:00.000Z|Idraulico liquido|2020-11-20T11:57:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Pierpao|2020-11-20T12:16:00.000Z|Idraulico liquido|2020-11-20T11:57:00.000Z"></span>Si gli insulti i copyviol si cancellano ma anche lì avvisando gli amministratori che verificano la correttezza dell'operato.--<i><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Pierpao" title="Utente:Pierpao">Pierpao</a> <small><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Pierpao" title="Discussioni utente:Pierpao">(listening)</a></small></i> 13:16, 20 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pierpao|2020-11-20T12:16:00.000Z|Idraulico liquido|2020-11-20T11:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-20T12:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pierpao&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Pierpao|2020-11-20T12:16:00.000Z|Idraulico liquido|2020-11-20T11:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<p><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Syphax98|2020-11-20T12:18:00.000Z|Commenti_inutili_sulle_pagine_di_discussione"></span>[<abbr title="Rientrare significa ritornare all'inizio di una riga con l'indentazione di una discussione, quando essa si allunga troppo e rende i commenti più difficili da leggere.">←</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Glossario#Rientro" title="Aiuto:Glossario">Rientro</a>]</b></small> Grazie per le dritte, d'ora in poi eviterò di cancellare. Avendo avuto testimonianza di cancellazioni da parte di altri utenti, pensavo fosse corretto. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Syphax98" title="Utente:Syphax98">Syphax98</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Syphax98" title="Discussioni utente:Syphax98">msg</a>) 13:18, 20 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Syphax98|2020-11-20T12:18:00.000Z|Commenti_inutili_sulle_pagine_di_discussione&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Pierpao|2020-11-20T12:45:00.000Z|Syphax98|2020-11-20T12:18:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-20T12:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Syphax98&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Syphax98|2020-11-20T12:18:00.000Z|Commenti_inutili_sulle_pagine_di_discussione"></span>
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-<dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Pierpao|2020-11-20T12:45:00.000Z|Syphax98|2020-11-20T12:18:00.000Z"></span>Hai fatto benissimo a segnalare la cosa, grazie mille--<i><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Pierpao" title="Utente:Pierpao">Pierpao</a> <small><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Pierpao" title="Discussioni utente:Pierpao">(listening)</a></small></i> 13:45, 20 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:9,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pierpao|2020-11-20T12:45:00.000Z|Syphax98|2020-11-20T12:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|95.237.218.42|2020-11-20T17:24:00.000Z|Pierpao|2020-11-20T12:45:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-20T12:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pierpao&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Pierpao|2020-11-20T12:45:00.000Z|Syphax98|2020-11-20T12:18:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|95.237.218.42|2020-11-20T17:24:00.000Z|Pierpao|2020-11-20T12:45:00.000Z"></span>Penso si possa utilizzare i <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Cancellazioni_immediate" title="Wikipedia:Cancellazioni immediate">Criteri di cancellazione immediata</a> C1 e C4, applicati tenendo conto che stiamo trattando una pagina di discussione e non una voce dell'enciclopedia. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/95.237.218.42" title="Speciale:Contributi/95.237.218.42">95.237.218.42</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussioni_utente:95.237.218.42&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Discussioni utente:95.237.218.42 (la pagina non esiste)">msg</a>) 18:24, 20 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:10,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|95.237.218.42|2020-11-20T17:24:00.000Z|Pierpao|2020-11-20T12:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|95.237.218.42|2020-11-20T20:49:00.000Z|95.237.218.42|2020-11-20T17:24:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-20T17:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;95.237.218.42&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|95.237.218.42|2020-11-20T17:24:00.000Z|Pierpao|2020-11-20T12:45:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|95.237.218.42|2020-11-20T20:49:00.000Z|95.237.218.42|2020-11-20T17:24:00.000Z"></span>Attualmente c'è un problema del genere anche in una pagina di cancellazione (che tecnicamente non è una pagina di discussione, ma ne è comunque molto simile).--<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/95.237.218.42" title="Speciale:Contributi/95.237.218.42">95.237.218.42</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussioni_utente:95.237.218.42&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Discussioni utente:95.237.218.42 (la pagina non esiste)">msg</a>) 21:49, 20 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:11,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|95.237.218.42|2020-11-20T20:49:00.000Z|95.237.218.42|2020-11-20T17:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Enzo Encius|2020-11-20T20:56:00.000Z|95.237.218.42|2020-11-20T20:49:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-20T20:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;95.237.218.42&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|95.237.218.42|2020-11-20T20:49:00.000Z|95.237.218.42|2020-11-20T17:24:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Enzo Encius|2020-11-20T20:56:00.000Z|95.237.218.42|2020-11-20T20:49:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Syphax98" title="Utente:Syphax98">Syphax98</a>]</b></small> mi è purtroppo capitato di osservare eliminazioni di commenti che definirei improprie, ma sono totalmente favorevole ad eliminare quelle offensive e, ovviamente, quelle che violano le leggi vigenti sul copyright (e più tardi l'oscuramento della cronologia non farebbe male).--<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC"><b><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Enzo_Encius" title="Utente:Enzo Encius"><span style="color:red">Enzo</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Enzo_Encius" title="Discussioni utente:Enzo Encius"><span style="color:blue">Encius</span></a></b></span> 21:56, 20 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:12,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Enzo Encius|2020-11-20T20:56:00.000Z|95.237.218.42|2020-11-20T20:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-20T20:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Enzo Encius&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Enzo Encius|2020-11-20T20:56:00.000Z|95.237.218.42|2020-11-20T20:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Pierpao|2020-11-20T12:45:00.000Z|Syphax98|2020-11-20T12:18:00.000Z"></span>Hai fatto benissimo a segnalare la cosa, grazie mille--<i><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Pierpao" title="Utente:Pierpao">Pierpao</a> <small><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Pierpao" title="Discussioni utente:Pierpao">(listening)</a></small></i> 13:45, 20 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:9,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pierpao|2020-11-20T12:45:00.000Z|Syphax98|2020-11-20T12:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|95.237.218.42|2020-11-20T17:24:00.000Z|Pierpao|2020-11-20T12:45:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-20T12:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pierpao&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Pierpao|2020-11-20T12:45:00.000Z|Syphax98|2020-11-20T12:18:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|95.237.218.42|2020-11-20T17:24:00.000Z|Pierpao|2020-11-20T12:45:00.000Z"></span>Penso si possa utilizzare i <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Cancellazioni_immediate" title="Wikipedia:Cancellazioni immediate">Criteri di cancellazione immediata</a> C1 e C4, applicati tenendo conto che stiamo trattando una pagina di discussione e non una voce dell'enciclopedia. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/95.237.218.42" title="Speciale:Contributi/95.237.218.42">95.237.218.42</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussioni_utente:95.237.218.42&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Discussioni utente:95.237.218.42 (la pagina non esiste)">msg</a>) 18:24, 20 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:10,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|95.237.218.42|2020-11-20T17:24:00.000Z|Pierpao|2020-11-20T12:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|95.237.218.42|2020-11-20T20:49:00.000Z|95.237.218.42|2020-11-20T17:24:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-20T17:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;95.237.218.42&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|95.237.218.42|2020-11-20T17:24:00.000Z|Pierpao|2020-11-20T12:45:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|95.237.218.42|2020-11-20T20:49:00.000Z|95.237.218.42|2020-11-20T17:24:00.000Z"></span>Attualmente c'è un problema del genere anche in una pagina di cancellazione (che tecnicamente non è una pagina di discussione, ma ne è comunque molto simile).--<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/95.237.218.42" title="Speciale:Contributi/95.237.218.42">95.237.218.42</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussioni_utente:95.237.218.42&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Discussioni utente:95.237.218.42 (la pagina non esiste)">msg</a>) 21:49, 20 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:11,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|95.237.218.42|2020-11-20T20:49:00.000Z|95.237.218.42|2020-11-20T17:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Enzo Encius|2020-11-20T20:56:00.000Z|95.237.218.42|2020-11-20T20:49:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-20T20:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;95.237.218.42&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|95.237.218.42|2020-11-20T20:49:00.000Z|95.237.218.42|2020-11-20T17:24:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Enzo Encius|2020-11-20T20:56:00.000Z|95.237.218.42|2020-11-20T20:49:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Syphax98" title="Utente:Syphax98">Syphax98</a>]</b></small> mi è purtroppo capitato di osservare eliminazioni di commenti che definirei improprie, ma sono totalmente favorevole ad eliminare quelle offensive e, ovviamente, quelle che violano le leggi vigenti sul copyright (e più tardi l'oscuramento della cronologia non farebbe male).--<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC"><b><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Enzo_Encius" title="Utente:Enzo Encius"><span style="color:red">Enzo</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Enzo_Encius" title="Discussioni utente:Enzo Encius"><span style="color:blue">Encius</span></a></b></span> 21:56, 20 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:12,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Enzo Encius|2020-11-20T20:56:00.000Z|95.237.218.42|2020-11-20T20:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-20T20:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Enzo Encius&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Enzo Encius|2020-11-20T20:56:00.000Z|95.237.218.42|2020-11-20T20:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="maometto" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|maometto|2020-11-20T21:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Wim b|2020-11-20T21:55:00.000Z|maometto&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|maometto|2020-11-20T21:55:00.000Z"></span>maometto<span data-mw-comment-end="h|maometto|2020-11-20T21:55:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Wim b|2020-11-20T21:55:00.000Z|maometto"></span>volevo modificare maometto ed ecco il messaggio che mi appare
 </p><p>Non si dispone dei permessi necessari per modificare questa pagina, per il seguente motivo:
@@ -281,67 +281,67 @@ Resto in attesa di chiarimenti per procedere, grazie! --<a href="//it.wikipedia.
 </p><p>È possibile visualizzare e copiare il codice sorgente di questa pagina.
 </p><p>non c'ho capito nulla <small>— <i>Questo commento senza la <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Firma" title="Aiuto:Firma">firma utente</a> è stato inserito da <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Ab%C5%AB_Sufy%C4%81n_ibn_%E1%B8%A4arb&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Abū Sufyān ibn Ḥarb (la pagina non esiste)">Abū Sufyān ibn Ḥarb</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Ab%C5%AB_Sufy%C4%81n_ibn_%E1%B8%A4arb" title="Discussioni utente:Abū Sufyān ibn Ḥarb">discussioni</a> · <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/Ab%C5%AB_Sufy%C4%81n_ibn_%E1%B8%A4arb" title="Speciale:Contributi/Abū Sufyān ibn Ḥarb">contributi</a>)</i>.</small>
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-<dl><dd>La pagina è protetta a causa di vandalismi e non può essere modificata --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Wim_b" title="Discussioni utente:Wim b">Wim b</a> 22:55, 20 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Wim b|2020-11-20T21:55:00.000Z|maometto&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Lepido|2020-11-20T22:19:00.000Z|Wim b|2020-11-20T21:55:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-20T21:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Wim b&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Wim b|2020-11-20T21:55:00.000Z|maometto"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Lepido|2020-11-20T22:19:00.000Z|Wim b|2020-11-20T21:55:00.000Z"></span>Comunque se vuoi, puoi proporre le tue modifiche nella pagina di discussione della voce, <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussione:Maometto" title="Discussione:Maometto">Discussione:Maometto</a>, in modo che vengano valutate ed eventualmente inserite. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Lepido" title="Utente:Lepido">Lepido</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Lepido" title="Discussioni utente:Lepido">msg</a>) 23:19, 20 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Lepido|2020-11-20T22:19:00.000Z|Wim b|2020-11-20T21:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-20T22:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Lepido&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Lepido|2020-11-20T22:19:00.000Z|Wim b|2020-11-20T21:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd>La pagina è protetta a causa di vandalismi e non può essere modificata --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Wim_b" title="Discussioni utente:Wim b">Wim b</a> 22:55, 20 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Wim b|2020-11-20T21:55:00.000Z|maometto&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Lepido|2020-11-20T22:19:00.000Z|Wim b|2020-11-20T21:55:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-20T21:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Wim b&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Wim b|2020-11-20T21:55:00.000Z|maometto"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Lepido|2020-11-20T22:19:00.000Z|Wim b|2020-11-20T21:55:00.000Z"></span>Comunque se vuoi, puoi proporre le tue modifiche nella pagina di discussione della voce, <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussione:Maometto" title="Discussione:Maometto">Discussione:Maometto</a>, in modo che vengano valutate ed eventualmente inserite. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Lepido" title="Utente:Lepido">Lepido</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Lepido" title="Discussioni utente:Lepido">msg</a>) 23:19, 20 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Lepido|2020-11-20T22:19:00.000Z|Wim b|2020-11-20T21:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-20T22:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Lepido&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Lepido|2020-11-20T22:19:00.000Z|Wim b|2020-11-20T21:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Problema_preferenze" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Problema_preferenze|2020-11-21T15:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-21T15:51:00.000Z|Problema_preferenze&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Problema_preferenze|2020-11-21T15:51:00.000Z"></span>Problema preferenze<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Problema_preferenze|2020-11-21T15:51:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span style="font-family: verdana, sans-serif; color: white; background: blue; font-weight: bold; border: 1px solid black; font-stretch: ultra-condensed"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-21T15:51:00.000Z|Problema_preferenze"></span>cb</span> <i>La discussione prosegue nella pagina <b><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Officina#Problema_preferenze" title="Wikipedia:Officina">Wikipedia:Officina#Problema_preferenze</a></b></i>.<br/>
-<small>– Il <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Cambusa" title="Wikipedia:Cambusa">cambusiere</a> <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;text-shadow:1px 1px 1px purple"><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:ValeJappo" title="Utente:ValeJappo"><span style="color:white">Val<span style="color:red">eJa</span>ppo</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:ValeJappo" title="Discussioni utente:ValeJappo"><small style="color:red">【〒】</small></a></span> 16:51, 21 nov 2020 (CET)</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-21T15:51:00.000Z|Problema_preferenze&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-21T15:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ValeJappo&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-21T15:51:00.000Z|Problema_preferenze"></span>
+<small>– Il <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Cambusa" title="Wikipedia:Cambusa">cambusiere</a> <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;text-shadow:1px 1px 1px purple"><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:ValeJappo" title="Utente:ValeJappo"><span style="color:white">Val<span style="color:red">eJa</span>ppo</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:ValeJappo" title="Discussioni utente:ValeJappo"><small style="color:red">【〒】</small></a></span> 16:51, 21 nov 2020 (CET)</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-21T15:51:00.000Z|Problema_preferenze&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-21T15:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ValeJappo&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-21T15:51:00.000Z|Problema_preferenze"></span>
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 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Daydreamer" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Daydreamer|2020-11-21T17:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Sheen Hossain|2020-11-21T17:53:00.000Z|Daydreamer&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Daydreamer|2020-11-21T17:53:00.000Z"></span>Daydreamer<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Daydreamer|2020-11-21T17:53:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Sheen Hossain|2020-11-21T17:53:00.000Z|Daydreamer"></span>Posso scrivere la trama di ogni singolo episodio?<small>— <i>Questo commento senza la <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Firma" title="Aiuto:Firma">firma utente</a> è stato inserito da <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Sheen_Hossain&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Sheen Hossain (la pagina non esiste)">Sheen Hossain</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Sheen_Hossain" title="Discussioni utente:Sheen Hossain">discussioni</a> · <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/Sheen_Hossain" title="Speciale:Contributi/Sheen Hossain">contributi</a>) 18:53, 21 nov 2020 (CET)</i>.</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Sheen Hossain|2020-11-21T17:53:00.000Z|Daydreamer&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-21T17:56:00.000Z|Sheen Hossain|2020-11-21T17:53:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-21T17:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Sheen Hossain&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Sheen Hossain|2020-11-21T17:53:00.000Z|Daydreamer"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Sheen Hossain|2020-11-21T17:53:00.000Z|Daydreamer"></span>Posso scrivere la trama di ogni singolo episodio?<small>— <i>Questo commento senza la <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Firma" title="Aiuto:Firma">firma utente</a> è stato inserito da <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Sheen_Hossain&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Sheen Hossain (la pagina non esiste)">Sheen Hossain</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Sheen_Hossain" title="Discussioni utente:Sheen Hossain">discussioni</a> · <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/Sheen_Hossain" title="Speciale:Contributi/Sheen Hossain">contributi</a>) 18:53, 21 nov 2020 (CET)</i>.</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Sheen Hossain|2020-11-21T17:53:00.000Z|Daydreamer&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-21T17:56:00.000Z|Sheen Hossain|2020-11-21T17:53:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-21T17:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Sheen Hossain&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Sheen Hossain|2020-11-21T17:53:00.000Z|Daydreamer"></span>
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-<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-21T17:56:00.000Z|Sheen Hossain|2020-11-21T17:53:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Sheen_Hossain&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Sheen Hossain (la pagina non esiste)">Sheen Hossain</a>]</b></small> vedi <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Trama" title="Wikipedia:Trama">WP:Trama</a> --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;text-shadow:1px 1px 1px purple"><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:ValeJappo" title="Utente:ValeJappo"><span style="color:white">Val<span style="color:red">eJa</span>ppo</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:ValeJappo" title="Discussioni utente:ValeJappo"><small style="color:red">【〒】</small></a></span> 18:56, 21 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-21T17:56:00.000Z|Sheen Hossain|2020-11-21T17:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|95.237.218.42|2020-11-21T19:28:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-21T17:56:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-21T17:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ValeJappo&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-21T17:56:00.000Z|Sheen Hossain|2020-11-21T17:53:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|95.237.218.42|2020-11-21T19:28:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-21T17:56:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Sheen_Hossain&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Sheen Hossain (la pagina non esiste)">Sheen Hossain</a>]</b></small> Se ti riferisci alla voce sul serial televisivo turco <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/DayDreamer_-_Le_ali_del_sogno" title="DayDreamer - Le ali del sogno">DayDreamer - Le ali del sogno</a>, puoi chiedere maggiori informazioni in <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_progetto:Televisione/Fiction_TV" title="Discussioni progetto:Televisione/Fiction TV">Discussioni progetto:Televisione/Fiction_TV</a>. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/95.237.218.42" title="Speciale:Contributi/95.237.218.42">95.237.218.42</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussioni_utente:95.237.218.42&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Discussioni utente:95.237.218.42 (la pagina non esiste)">msg</a>) 20:28, 21 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|95.237.218.42|2020-11-21T19:28:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-21T17:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-21T19:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;95.237.218.42&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|95.237.218.42|2020-11-21T19:28:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-21T17:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-21T17:56:00.000Z|Sheen Hossain|2020-11-21T17:53:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Sheen_Hossain&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Sheen Hossain (la pagina non esiste)">Sheen Hossain</a>]</b></small> vedi <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Trama" title="Wikipedia:Trama">WP:Trama</a> --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;text-shadow:1px 1px 1px purple"><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:ValeJappo" title="Utente:ValeJappo"><span style="color:white">Val<span style="color:red">eJa</span>ppo</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:ValeJappo" title="Discussioni utente:ValeJappo"><small style="color:red">【〒】</small></a></span> 18:56, 21 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-21T17:56:00.000Z|Sheen Hossain|2020-11-21T17:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|95.237.218.42|2020-11-21T19:28:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-21T17:56:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-21T17:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ValeJappo&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-21T17:56:00.000Z|Sheen Hossain|2020-11-21T17:53:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|95.237.218.42|2020-11-21T19:28:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-21T17:56:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Sheen_Hossain&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Sheen Hossain (la pagina non esiste)">Sheen Hossain</a>]</b></small> Se ti riferisci alla voce sul serial televisivo turco <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/DayDreamer_-_Le_ali_del_sogno" title="DayDreamer - Le ali del sogno">DayDreamer - Le ali del sogno</a>, puoi chiedere maggiori informazioni in <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_progetto:Televisione/Fiction_TV" title="Discussioni progetto:Televisione/Fiction TV">Discussioni progetto:Televisione/Fiction_TV</a>. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/95.237.218.42" title="Speciale:Contributi/95.237.218.42">95.237.218.42</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discussioni_utente:95.237.218.42&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Discussioni utente:95.237.218.42 (la pagina non esiste)">msg</a>) 20:28, 21 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|95.237.218.42|2020-11-21T19:28:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-21T17:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-21T19:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;95.237.218.42&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|95.237.218.42|2020-11-21T19:28:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-21T17:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Lucchinifederico|2020-11-21T23:02:00.000Z|Come_inserire_&quot;pilota_automobilistico_italiano&quot;_sotto_il_nome?_(nella_versione_m"></span>Ciao a tutti,
 sto aggiornando alcune pagine di piloti automobilistici italiani con dati, biografie e risultati.
 Vedo che in alcuni (nella versione mobile) sotto il nome è presente la scritta "pilota automobilistico italiano" mentre in altri no. Ho correttamente inserito nel template biografia la categoria automobilismo e l'attività pilota automobilistico, ma non riesco ad avere risultati :(
-Grazie mille--<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Lucchinifederico&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Lucchinifederico (la pagina non esiste)">Lucchinifederico</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Lucchinifederico" title="Discussioni utente:Lucchinifederico">msg</a>) 00:02, 22 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Lucchinifederico|2020-11-21T23:02:00.000Z|Come_inserire_\&quot;pilota_automobilistico_italiano\&quot;_sotto_il_nome?_(nella_versione_m&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Postcrosser|2020-11-22T00:06:00.000Z|Lucchinifederico|2020-11-21T23:02:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-21T23:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Lucchinifederico&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Lucchinifederico|2020-11-21T23:02:00.000Z|Come_inserire_&quot;pilota_automobilistico_italiano&quot;_sotto_il_nome?_(nella_versione_m"></span>
+Grazie mille--<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Lucchinifederico&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Lucchinifederico (la pagina non esiste)">Lucchinifederico</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Lucchinifederico" title="Discussioni utente:Lucchinifederico">msg</a>) 00:02, 22 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Lucchinifederico|2020-11-21T23:02:00.000Z|Come_inserire_\&quot;pilota_automobilistico_italiano\&quot;_sotto_il_nome?_(nella_versione_m&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Postcrosser|2020-11-22T00:06:00.000Z|Lucchinifederico|2020-11-21T23:02:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-21T23:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Lucchinifederico&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Lucchinifederico|2020-11-21T23:02:00.000Z|Come_inserire_&quot;pilota_automobilistico_italiano&quot;_sotto_il_nome?_(nella_versione_m"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Postcrosser|2020-11-22T00:06:00.000Z|Lucchinifederico|2020-11-21T23:02:00.000Z"></span>Puoi fare qualche esempio di voci in cui appare e in cui non appare? --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Postcrosser" title="Utente:Postcrosser">Postcrosser</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Postcrosser" title="Discussioni utente:Postcrosser">msg</a>) 01:06, 22 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Postcrosser|2020-11-22T00:06:00.000Z|Lucchinifederico|2020-11-21T23:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ap7189ap|2020-11-22T00:16:00.000Z|Postcrosser|2020-11-22T00:06:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-22T00:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Postcrosser&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Postcrosser|2020-11-22T00:06:00.000Z|Lucchinifederico|2020-11-21T23:02:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ap7189ap|2020-11-22T00:16:00.000Z|Postcrosser|2020-11-22T00:06:00.000Z"></span>Va creata la scheda su <a class="external text" href="https://m.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Main_Page">wikidata</a>, però non io non so crearla :( --<b><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Ap7189ap" title="Utente:Ap7189ap"><span style="color:#FF1000">Ap7189</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Ap7189ap" title="Discussioni utente:Ap7189ap"><span style="color:#FFBA00">ap</span></a></b> 01:16, 22 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ap7189ap|2020-11-22T00:16:00.000Z|Postcrosser|2020-11-22T00:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-22T00:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ap7189ap&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ap7189ap|2020-11-22T00:16:00.000Z|Postcrosser|2020-11-22T00:06:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Postcrosser|2020-11-22T00:06:00.000Z|Lucchinifederico|2020-11-21T23:02:00.000Z"></span>Puoi fare qualche esempio di voci in cui appare e in cui non appare? --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Postcrosser" title="Utente:Postcrosser">Postcrosser</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Postcrosser" title="Discussioni utente:Postcrosser">msg</a>) 01:06, 22 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Postcrosser|2020-11-22T00:06:00.000Z|Lucchinifederico|2020-11-21T23:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ap7189ap|2020-11-22T00:16:00.000Z|Postcrosser|2020-11-22T00:06:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-22T00:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Postcrosser&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Postcrosser|2020-11-22T00:06:00.000Z|Lucchinifederico|2020-11-21T23:02:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ap7189ap|2020-11-22T00:16:00.000Z|Postcrosser|2020-11-22T00:06:00.000Z"></span>Va creata la scheda su <a class="external text" href="https://m.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Main_Page">wikidata</a>, però non io non so crearla :( --<b><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Ap7189ap" title="Utente:Ap7189ap"><span style="color:#FF1000">Ap7189</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Ap7189ap" title="Discussioni utente:Ap7189ap"><span style="color:#FFBA00">ap</span></a></b> 01:16, 22 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ap7189ap|2020-11-22T00:16:00.000Z|Postcrosser|2020-11-22T00:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-22T00:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ap7189ap&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ap7189ap|2020-11-22T00:16:00.000Z|Postcrosser|2020-11-22T00:06:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Inserimento_di_un_nuovo_formato_di_pasta_fresca_che_contraddistingue_un_luogo_specifico" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Inserimento_di_un_nuovo_formato_di_pasta_fresca_che_contraddistingue_un_luogo_sp|2020-11-22T10:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Vale93b|2020-11-22T10:24:00.000Z|Inserimento_di_un_nuovo_formato_di_pasta_fresca_che_contraddistingue_un_luogo_sp&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Inserimento_di_un_nuovo_formato_di_pasta_fresca_che_contraddistingue_un_luogo_sp|2020-11-22T10:24:00.000Z"></span>Inserimento di un nuovo formato di pasta fresca che contraddistingue un luogo specifico<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Inserimento_di_un_nuovo_formato_di_pasta_fresca_che_contraddistingue_un_luogo_sp|2020-11-22T10:24:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Vale93b|2020-11-22T10:24:00.000Z|Inserimento_di_un_nuovo_formato_di_pasta_fresca_che_contraddistingue_un_luogo_sp"></span>Buongiorno, 
 </p><p>mi piacerebbe inserire una nuova pagina su wikipedia dove inserire i <i>CUCIARIN</i>, un formato di pasta fresca che contraddistingue il luogo dov'è nata. E' possibile? <small>— <i>Questo commento senza la <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Firma" title="Aiuto:Firma">firma utente</a> è stato inserito da <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Pietro_Ganni&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Pietro Ganni (la pagina non esiste)">Pietro Ganni</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Pietro_Ganni" title="Discussioni utente:Pietro Ganni">discussioni</a> · <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/Pietro_Ganni" title="Speciale:Contributi/Pietro Ganni">contributi</a>)</i>.</small>
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-<dl><dd>ti è stato risposto in <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Pietro_Ganni" title="Discussioni utente:Pietro Ganni">Discussioni utente:Pietro Ganni</a> --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Vale93b" title="Utente:Vale93b"><span style="color:green"><b>Vale</b></span><span style="background:darkgreen"><span style="color:gold"><b>93b</b></span></span></a> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Vale93b" title="Discussioni utente:Vale93b"><span style="color:blue"><sup><b>Fatti sentire!</b></sup></span></a> 11:24, 22 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vale93b|2020-11-22T10:24:00.000Z|Inserimento_di_un_nuovo_formato_di_pasta_fresca_che_contraddistingue_un_luogo_sp&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-22T10:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vale93b&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Vale93b|2020-11-22T10:24:00.000Z|Inserimento_di_un_nuovo_formato_di_pasta_fresca_che_contraddistingue_un_luogo_sp"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd>ti è stato risposto in <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Pietro_Ganni" title="Discussioni utente:Pietro Ganni">Discussioni utente:Pietro Ganni</a> --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Vale93b" title="Utente:Vale93b"><span style="color:green"><b>Vale</b></span><span style="background:darkgreen"><span style="color:gold"><b>93b</b></span></span></a> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Vale93b" title="Discussioni utente:Vale93b"><span style="color:blue"><sup><b>Fatti sentire!</b></sup></span></a> 11:24, 22 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vale93b|2020-11-22T10:24:00.000Z|Inserimento_di_un_nuovo_formato_di_pasta_fresca_che_contraddistingue_un_luogo_sp&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-22T10:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vale93b&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Vale93b|2020-11-22T10:24:00.000Z|Inserimento_di_un_nuovo_formato_di_pasta_fresca_che_contraddistingue_un_luogo_sp"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Inserimento_di_un_nuovo_formato_di_pasta_fresca_che_contraddistingue_un_luogo_specifico_2" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Inserimento_di_un_nuovo_formato_di_pasta_fresca_che_contraddistingue_un_luogo_sp|2020-11-22T10:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Pierpao|2020-11-22T10:46:00.000Z|Inserimento_di_un_nuovo_formato_di_pasta_fresca_che_contraddistingue_un_luogo_sp&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Inserimento_di_un_nuovo_formato_di_pasta_fresca_che_contraddistingue_un_luogo_sp|2020-11-22T10:46:00.000Z"></span>Inserimento di un nuovo formato di pasta fresca che contraddistingue un luogo specifico<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Inserimento_di_un_nuovo_formato_di_pasta_fresca_che_contraddistingue_un_luogo_sp|2020-11-22T10:46:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Pierpao|2020-11-22T10:46:00.000Z|Inserimento_di_un_nuovo_formato_di_pasta_fresca_che_contraddistingue_un_luogo_sp"></span>Buongiorno,
 </p><p>c'è un modo per recuperare quanto avevo scritto, modificarlo, e provare a ripubblicarlo senza usare metodi promozionali?
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-<dl><dd>Chiedi un parere al <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_progetto:Gastronomia" class="mw-redirect" title="Discussioni progetto:Gastronomia">dp:gastronomia</a> magari dopo aver letto <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:PROMOZIONALE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PROMOZIONALE">WP:PROMOZIONALE</a>, <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:COMMISSIONE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COMMISSIONE">WP:COMMISSIONE</a> e riscritto la voce in una <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Sandbox" class="mw-redirect" title="Aiuto:Sandbox">sandbox</a>. Leggi anche <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Firma" title="Aiuto:Firma">aiuto:Firma</a>--<i><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Pierpao" title="Utente:Pierpao">Pierpao</a> <small><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Pierpao" title="Discussioni utente:Pierpao">(listening)</a></small></i> 11:46, 22 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pierpao|2020-11-22T10:46:00.000Z|Inserimento_di_un_nuovo_formato_di_pasta_fresca_che_contraddistingue_un_luogo_sp&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-22T10:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pierpao&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Pierpao|2020-11-22T10:46:00.000Z|Inserimento_di_un_nuovo_formato_di_pasta_fresca_che_contraddistingue_un_luogo_sp"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd>Chiedi un parere al <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_progetto:Gastronomia" class="mw-redirect" title="Discussioni progetto:Gastronomia">dp:gastronomia</a> magari dopo aver letto <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:PROMOZIONALE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PROMOZIONALE">WP:PROMOZIONALE</a>, <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:COMMISSIONE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COMMISSIONE">WP:COMMISSIONE</a> e riscritto la voce in una <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Sandbox" class="mw-redirect" title="Aiuto:Sandbox">sandbox</a>. Leggi anche <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Firma" title="Aiuto:Firma">aiuto:Firma</a>--<i><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Pierpao" title="Utente:Pierpao">Pierpao</a> <small><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Pierpao" title="Discussioni utente:Pierpao">(listening)</a></small></i> 11:46, 22 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pierpao|2020-11-22T10:46:00.000Z|Inserimento_di_un_nuovo_formato_di_pasta_fresca_che_contraddistingue_un_luogo_sp&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-22T10:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pierpao&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Pierpao|2020-11-22T10:46:00.000Z|Inserimento_di_un_nuovo_formato_di_pasta_fresca_che_contraddistingue_un_luogo_sp"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Aiuto_sugli_schemi" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Aiuto_sugli_schemi|2020-11-23T08:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Istheendoftheworldasweknowit|2020-11-23T08:37:00.000Z|Aiuto_sugli_schemi&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Aiuto_sugli_schemi|2020-11-23T08:37:00.000Z"></span>Aiuto sugli schemi<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Aiuto_sugli_schemi|2020-11-23T08:37:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Istheendoftheworldasweknowit|2020-11-23T08:37:00.000Z|Aiuto_sugli_schemi"></span>Buongiorno scusate, probabilmente non sto neanche scrivendo nel posto giusto ma avrei una domanda da fare, in molte pagine che ho visitato che trattano di conflitti c'è come un box che sembra avere lo stesso template, dove si mette titolo e poi le parti del conflitto bellico. Io volevo creare una nuova pagina ma non so dove trovare il template del box. Lo devo per forza copiare?<small>— <i>Questo commento senza la <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Firma" title="Aiuto:Firma">firma utente</a> è stato inserito da <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Istheendoftheworldasweknowit&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Istheendoftheworldasweknowit (la pagina non esiste)">Istheendoftheworldasweknowit</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Istheendoftheworldasweknowit" title="Discussioni utente:Istheendoftheworldasweknowit">discussioni</a> · <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/Istheendoftheworldasweknowit" title="Speciale:Contributi/Istheendoftheworldasweknowit">contributi</a>) 09:37, 23 nov 2020 (CET)</i>.</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Istheendoftheworldasweknowit|2020-11-23T08:37:00.000Z|Aiuto_sugli_schemi&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T08:43:00.000Z|Istheendoftheworldasweknowit|2020-11-23T08:37:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-23T08:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Istheendoftheworldasweknowit&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Istheendoftheworldasweknowit|2020-11-23T08:37:00.000Z|Aiuto_sugli_schemi"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Istheendoftheworldasweknowit|2020-11-23T08:37:00.000Z|Aiuto_sugli_schemi"></span>Buongiorno scusate, probabilmente non sto neanche scrivendo nel posto giusto ma avrei una domanda da fare, in molte pagine che ho visitato che trattano di conflitti c'è come un box che sembra avere lo stesso template, dove si mette titolo e poi le parti del conflitto bellico. Io volevo creare una nuova pagina ma non so dove trovare il template del box. Lo devo per forza copiare?<small>— <i>Questo commento senza la <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Firma" title="Aiuto:Firma">firma utente</a> è stato inserito da <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Istheendoftheworldasweknowit&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Istheendoftheworldasweknowit (la pagina non esiste)">Istheendoftheworldasweknowit</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Istheendoftheworldasweknowit" title="Discussioni utente:Istheendoftheworldasweknowit">discussioni</a> · <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/Istheendoftheworldasweknowit" title="Speciale:Contributi/Istheendoftheworldasweknowit">contributi</a>) 09:37, 23 nov 2020 (CET)</i>.</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Istheendoftheworldasweknowit|2020-11-23T08:37:00.000Z|Aiuto_sugli_schemi&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T08:43:00.000Z|Istheendoftheworldasweknowit|2020-11-23T08:37:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-23T08:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Istheendoftheworldasweknowit&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Istheendoftheworldasweknowit|2020-11-23T08:37:00.000Z|Aiuto_sugli_schemi"></span>
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-<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T08:43:00.000Z|Istheendoftheworldasweknowit|2020-11-23T08:37:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Istheendoftheworldasweknowit&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Istheendoftheworldasweknowit (la pagina non esiste)">Istheendoftheworldasweknowit</a>]</b></small> sposto qui dal bar.--<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;text-shadow:1px 1px 1px purple"><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:ValeJappo" title="Utente:ValeJappo"><span style="color:white">Val<span style="color:red">eJa</span>ppo</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:ValeJappo" title="Discussioni utente:ValeJappo"><small style="color:red">【〒】</small></a></span> 09:43, 23 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T08:43:00.000Z|Istheendoftheworldasweknowit|2020-11-23T08:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T08:45:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T08:43:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-23T08:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ValeJappo&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T08:43:00.000Z|Istheendoftheworldasweknowit|2020-11-23T08:37:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T08:45:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T08:43:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Istheendoftheworldasweknowit&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Istheendoftheworldasweknowit (la pagina non esiste)">Istheendoftheworldasweknowit</a>]</b></small> Ciao! Questi sono dei "template", vedi <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Template" title="Aiuto:Template">Aiuto:Template</a>. Il template in questione è {{<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_conflitto" title="Template:Infobox conflitto">Infobox conflitto</a>}}. Se hai dubbi scrivimi! --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;text-shadow:1px 1px 1px purple"><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:ValeJappo" title="Utente:ValeJappo"><span style="color:white">Val<span style="color:red">eJa</span>ppo</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:ValeJappo" title="Discussioni utente:ValeJappo"><small style="color:red">【〒】</small></a></span> 09:45, 23 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T08:45:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T08:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|95.244.17.210|2020-11-23T11:50:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T08:45:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-23T08:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ValeJappo&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T08:45:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T08:43:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|95.244.17.210|2020-11-23T11:50:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T08:45:00.000Z"></span>Vedi anche <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Template_sinottici" title="Aiuto:Template sinottici">Aiuto:Template sinottici</a> per una spiegazione più in generale dei "box" in altro. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/95.244.17.210" title="Speciale:Contributi/95.244.17.210">95.244.17.210</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:95.244.17.210" title="Discussioni utente:95.244.17.210">msg</a>) 12:50, 23 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|95.244.17.210|2020-11-23T11:50:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T08:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-23T11:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;95.244.17.210&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|95.244.17.210|2020-11-23T11:50:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T08:45:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T08:43:00.000Z|Istheendoftheworldasweknowit|2020-11-23T08:37:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Istheendoftheworldasweknowit&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Istheendoftheworldasweknowit (la pagina non esiste)">Istheendoftheworldasweknowit</a>]</b></small> sposto qui dal bar.--<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;text-shadow:1px 1px 1px purple"><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:ValeJappo" title="Utente:ValeJappo"><span style="color:white">Val<span style="color:red">eJa</span>ppo</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:ValeJappo" title="Discussioni utente:ValeJappo"><small style="color:red">【〒】</small></a></span> 09:43, 23 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T08:43:00.000Z|Istheendoftheworldasweknowit|2020-11-23T08:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T08:45:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T08:43:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-23T08:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ValeJappo&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T08:43:00.000Z|Istheendoftheworldasweknowit|2020-11-23T08:37:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T08:45:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T08:43:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Istheendoftheworldasweknowit&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Istheendoftheworldasweknowit (la pagina non esiste)">Istheendoftheworldasweknowit</a>]</b></small> Ciao! Questi sono dei "template", vedi <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Template" title="Aiuto:Template">Aiuto:Template</a>. Il template in questione è {{<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_conflitto" title="Template:Infobox conflitto">Infobox conflitto</a>}}. Se hai dubbi scrivimi! --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;text-shadow:1px 1px 1px purple"><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:ValeJappo" title="Utente:ValeJappo"><span style="color:white">Val<span style="color:red">eJa</span>ppo</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:ValeJappo" title="Discussioni utente:ValeJappo"><small style="color:red">【〒】</small></a></span> 09:45, 23 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T08:45:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T08:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|95.244.17.210|2020-11-23T11:50:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T08:45:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-23T08:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ValeJappo&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T08:45:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T08:43:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|95.244.17.210|2020-11-23T11:50:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T08:45:00.000Z"></span>Vedi anche <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Template_sinottici" title="Aiuto:Template sinottici">Aiuto:Template sinottici</a> per una spiegazione più in generale dei "box" in altro. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/95.244.17.210" title="Speciale:Contributi/95.244.17.210">95.244.17.210</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:95.244.17.210" title="Discussioni utente:95.244.17.210">msg</a>) 12:50, 23 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|95.244.17.210|2020-11-23T11:50:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T08:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-23T11:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;95.244.17.210&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|95.244.17.210|2020-11-23T11:50:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T08:45:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="info" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|info|2020-11-23T09:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Pinkgirlinside|2020-11-23T09:16:00.000Z|info&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|info|2020-11-23T09:16:00.000Z"></span>info<span data-mw-comment-end="h|info|2020-11-23T09:16:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Pinkgirlinside|2020-11-23T09:16:00.000Z|info"></span>Buongiorno vorrei inserire una nuova voce ma non capisco perchè venga cancellata dicendo che non è uno spazio pubblicitario quando io cerco solo di informare
-</p><p>Potete aiutarmi? <small>— <i>Questo commento senza la <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Firma" title="Aiuto:Firma">firma utente</a> è stato inserito da <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Pinkgirlinside&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Pinkgirlinside (la pagina non esiste)">Pinkgirlinside</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Pinkgirlinside" title="Discussioni utente:Pinkgirlinside">discussioni</a> · <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/Pinkgirlinside" title="Speciale:Contributi/Pinkgirlinside">contributi</a>) 10:16, 23 nov 2020 (CET)</i>.</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pinkgirlinside|2020-11-23T09:16:00.000Z|info&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Lepido|2020-11-23T10:21:00.000Z|Pinkgirlinside|2020-11-23T09:16:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-23T09:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pinkgirlinside&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Pinkgirlinside|2020-11-23T09:16:00.000Z|info"></span>
+</p><p>Potete aiutarmi? <small>— <i>Questo commento senza la <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Firma" title="Aiuto:Firma">firma utente</a> è stato inserito da <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Pinkgirlinside&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Pinkgirlinside (la pagina non esiste)">Pinkgirlinside</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Pinkgirlinside" title="Discussioni utente:Pinkgirlinside">discussioni</a> · <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/Pinkgirlinside" title="Speciale:Contributi/Pinkgirlinside">contributi</a>) 10:16, 23 nov 2020 (CET)</i>.</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pinkgirlinside|2020-11-23T09:16:00.000Z|info&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Lepido|2020-11-23T10:21:00.000Z|Pinkgirlinside|2020-11-23T09:16:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-23T09:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pinkgirlinside&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Pinkgirlinside|2020-11-23T09:16:00.000Z|info"></span>
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 <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Lepido|2020-11-23T10:21:00.000Z|Pinkgirlinside|2020-11-23T09:16:00.000Z"></span>Innanzitutto dovresti leggere quanto ti è stato scritto nella tua pagina utente: <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Pinkgirlinside" title="Discussioni utente:Pinkgirlinside">Discussioni utente:Pinkgirlinside</a>.</dd>
 <dd>In pratica ci sono due problemi:
 <ol><li>La pagina utente non è un luogo dove inserire delle voci, ma serve solamente per una breve presentazione dell'utente. Per saperne di più leggi <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Pagina_utente" class="mw-redirect" title="Aiuto:Pagina utente">Aiuto:Pagina utente</a>. Se vuoi utilizzare uno spazio dove puoi preparare con calma una voce prima di inserirla su Wikipedia, puoi usare la tua sandbox, che nel tuo caso è: <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Pinkgirlinside/Sandbox&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Pinkgirlinside/Sandbox (la pagina non esiste)">Utente:Pinkgirlinside/Sandbox</a>.</li>
 <li>Inoltre la voce probabilmente non è enciclopedica, la biografata cioè non mi pare raggiunga quella rilevanza necessaria per avere una voce su Wikipedia. Se ritieni invece che la voce possa stare su Wikipedia, devi corredarla di fonti terze ed autorevoli che ne attestino la rilevanza. Un'intervista a Radio Deejay non è sicuramente sufficiente, occorrono articoli di giornali autorevoli o cose simili (che vanno riportati come fonti nella voce) per poter far valere la tua tesi. Per saperne di più, leggi <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Enciclopedicit%C3%A0" class="mw-redirect" title="Aiuto:Enciclopedicità">Aiuto:Enciclopedicità</a>, <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biografie_di_persone_viventi" title="Wikipedia:Biografie di persone viventi">Wikipedia:Biografie di persone viventi</a>, <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Convenzioni_di_stile/Biografie" title="Wikipedia:Convenzioni di stile/Biografie">Wikipedia:Convenzioni di stile/Biografie</a> e <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Uso_delle_fonti" title="Wikipedia:Uso delle fonti">Wikipedia:Uso delle fonti</a>.</li></ol></dd>
-<dd>Ciao. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Lepido" title="Utente:Lepido">Lepido</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Lepido" title="Discussioni utente:Lepido">msg</a>) 11:21, 23 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Lepido|2020-11-23T10:21:00.000Z|Pinkgirlinside|2020-11-23T09:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-23T10:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Lepido&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Lepido|2020-11-23T10:21:00.000Z|Pinkgirlinside|2020-11-23T09:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dd>Ciao. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Lepido" title="Utente:Lepido">Lepido</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Lepido" title="Discussioni utente:Lepido">msg</a>) 11:21, 23 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Lepido|2020-11-23T10:21:00.000Z|Pinkgirlinside|2020-11-23T09:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-23T10:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Lepido&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Lepido|2020-11-23T10:21:00.000Z|Pinkgirlinside|2020-11-23T09:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="copia_delle_modifiche" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|copia_delle_modifiche|2020-11-23T09:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Patrizia Giancotti|2020-11-23T09:58:00.000Z|copia_delle_modifiche&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|copia_delle_modifiche|2020-11-23T09:58:00.000Z"></span>copia delle modifiche<span data-mw-comment-end="h|copia_delle_modifiche|2020-11-23T09:58:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Patrizia Giancotti|2020-11-23T09:58:00.000Z|copia_delle_modifiche"></span>Buongiorno, avrei una domanda da farmi. Ho lavorato una giornata alla modifica della mia pagina. Ho scritto la lista dettagliata dei programmi radiofonici che ho realizzato per radio 3 allegando il file di ascolto per ogni programma. La pagina era aggiornata. Oggi la ritrovo com'era prima. Sembra che fosse scritta in maniera inappropriata. la sto modificando secondo i criteri richiesti, sebbene non mi siano molto chiari. Forse la lista dei programmi che sono comunque nell'archivio di ascolto pubblico della Radio non è consona? la domanda è: è possibile avere una copia di quella modificata. Stupidamente non me la sono salvata. Sono ore e ore di lavoro per risalire a tutti i programmi. Grazie
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-<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T10:01:00.000Z|Patrizia Giancotti|2020-11-23T09:58:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Patrizia_Giancotti&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Patrizia Giancotti (la pagina non esiste)">Patrizia Giancotti</a>]</b></small> certamente, basta <a class="external text" href="https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Patrizia_Giancotti&amp;oldid=116836541">guardare questa versione della pagina</a>. Ricordo di tenere a mente il motivo dell'annullamento, che riporto di seguito: <i>rimuovo massiccio inserimento di contenuti sprovvisti di fonti terze e/o non confacenti a una trattazione enciclopedica; adeguo alle convenzioni dell'enciclopedia (parziale); +avviso CV</i>--<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;text-shadow:1px 1px 1px purple"><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:ValeJappo" title="Utente:ValeJappo"><span style="color:white">Val<span style="color:red">eJa</span>ppo</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:ValeJappo" title="Discussioni utente:ValeJappo"><small style="color:red">【〒】</small></a></span> 11:01, 23 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T10:01:00.000Z|Patrizia Giancotti|2020-11-23T09:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Lepido|2020-11-23T10:08:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T10:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-23T10:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ValeJappo&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T10:01:00.000Z|Patrizia Giancotti|2020-11-23T09:58:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Lepido|2020-11-23T10:08:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T10:01:00.000Z"></span>In pratica la voce anche adesso è strutturata come un curriculum vitae e non come una voce biografica. Le tue modifiche, pur intrinsecamente giuste nella lettera, avevano peggiorato la situazione. Per una corretta preparazione di una voce bibliografica, leggi <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biografie_di_persone_viventi" title="Wikipedia:Biografie di persone viventi">Wikipedia:Biografie di persone viventi</a> e <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Convenzioni_di_stile/Biografie" title="Wikipedia:Convenzioni di stile/Biografie">Wikipedia:Convenzioni di stile/Biografie</a>. Comunque, come hai visto, su Wikipedia nessun edit va perduto, per conoscere meglio le potenzialità della cronologia delle modifiche delle voci, leggi <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Cronologia" title="Aiuto:Cronologia">Aiuto:Cronologia</a>. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Lepido" title="Utente:Lepido">Lepido</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Lepido" title="Discussioni utente:Lepido">msg</a>) 11:08, 23 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Lepido|2020-11-23T10:08:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T10:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Etienne|2020-11-23T10:53:00.000Z|Lepido|2020-11-23T10:08:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-23T10:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Lepido&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Lepido|2020-11-23T10:08:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T10:01:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Etienne|2020-11-23T10:53:00.000Z|Lepido|2020-11-23T10:08:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Patrizia_Giancotti&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Patrizia Giancotti (la pagina non esiste)">Patrizia Giancotti</a>]</b></small> A ogni buon conto eri stata regolarmente avvisata tramite la tua <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Pagina_di_discussione" title="Aiuto:Pagina di discussione">pagina di discussione</a>. Grazie mille per la gentile comprensione e buon proseguimento! -- <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Etienne" title="Utente:Etienne">É</a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Etienne" title="Discussioni utente:Etienne">tienne</a> 11:53, 23 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Etienne|2020-11-23T10:53:00.000Z|Lepido|2020-11-23T10:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-23T10:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Etienne&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Etienne|2020-11-23T10:53:00.000Z|Lepido|2020-11-23T10:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T10:01:00.000Z|Patrizia Giancotti|2020-11-23T09:58:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Patrizia_Giancotti&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Patrizia Giancotti (la pagina non esiste)">Patrizia Giancotti</a>]</b></small> certamente, basta <a class="external text" href="https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Patrizia_Giancotti&amp;oldid=116836541">guardare questa versione della pagina</a>. Ricordo di tenere a mente il motivo dell'annullamento, che riporto di seguito: <i>rimuovo massiccio inserimento di contenuti sprovvisti di fonti terze e/o non confacenti a una trattazione enciclopedica; adeguo alle convenzioni dell'enciclopedia (parziale); +avviso CV</i>--<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;text-shadow:1px 1px 1px purple"><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:ValeJappo" title="Utente:ValeJappo"><span style="color:white">Val<span style="color:red">eJa</span>ppo</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:ValeJappo" title="Discussioni utente:ValeJappo"><small style="color:red">【〒】</small></a></span> 11:01, 23 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T10:01:00.000Z|Patrizia Giancotti|2020-11-23T09:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Lepido|2020-11-23T10:08:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T10:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-23T10:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ValeJappo&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T10:01:00.000Z|Patrizia Giancotti|2020-11-23T09:58:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Lepido|2020-11-23T10:08:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T10:01:00.000Z"></span>In pratica la voce anche adesso è strutturata come un curriculum vitae e non come una voce biografica. Le tue modifiche, pur intrinsecamente giuste nella lettera, avevano peggiorato la situazione. Per una corretta preparazione di una voce bibliografica, leggi <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biografie_di_persone_viventi" title="Wikipedia:Biografie di persone viventi">Wikipedia:Biografie di persone viventi</a> e <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Convenzioni_di_stile/Biografie" title="Wikipedia:Convenzioni di stile/Biografie">Wikipedia:Convenzioni di stile/Biografie</a>. Comunque, come hai visto, su Wikipedia nessun edit va perduto, per conoscere meglio le potenzialità della cronologia delle modifiche delle voci, leggi <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Cronologia" title="Aiuto:Cronologia">Aiuto:Cronologia</a>. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Lepido" title="Utente:Lepido">Lepido</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Lepido" title="Discussioni utente:Lepido">msg</a>) 11:08, 23 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Lepido|2020-11-23T10:08:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T10:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Etienne|2020-11-23T10:53:00.000Z|Lepido|2020-11-23T10:08:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-23T10:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Lepido&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Lepido|2020-11-23T10:08:00.000Z|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T10:01:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Etienne|2020-11-23T10:53:00.000Z|Lepido|2020-11-23T10:08:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Patrizia_Giancotti&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Patrizia Giancotti (la pagina non esiste)">Patrizia Giancotti</a>]</b></small> A ogni buon conto eri stata regolarmente avvisata tramite la tua <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Pagina_di_discussione" title="Aiuto:Pagina di discussione">pagina di discussione</a>. Grazie mille per la gentile comprensione e buon proseguimento! -- <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Etienne" title="Utente:Etienne">É</a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Etienne" title="Discussioni utente:Etienne">tienne</a> 11:53, 23 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Etienne|2020-11-23T10:53:00.000Z|Lepido|2020-11-23T10:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-23T10:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Etienne&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Etienne|2020-11-23T10:53:00.000Z|Lepido|2020-11-23T10:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Inserimento_voce_su_Wikipedia" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Inserimento_voce_su_Wikipedia|2020-11-23T11:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ferdinando Fedi|2020-11-23T11:55:00.000Z|Inserimento_voce_su_Wikipedia&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Inserimento_voce_su_Wikipedia|2020-11-23T11:55:00.000Z"></span>Inserimento voce su Wikipedia<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Inserimento_voce_su_Wikipedia|2020-11-23T11:55:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ferdinando Fedi|2020-11-23T11:55:00.000Z|Inserimento_voce_su_Wikipedia"></span>Buongiorno ,
 ho tentato di inserire la voce Ferdinando Fedi senza successo.
 </p><p>Forse ho sbagliato la procedura per inserire i miei dati.
 </p><p>Qual è l'esatta procedura per proporre l'inserimento di una voce e sottoporre i requisiti all'eventuale accettazione da parte di Wikipedia?
-</p><p>Grazie, Ferdinando Fedi <small>— <i>Questo commento senza la <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Firma" title="Aiuto:Firma">firma utente</a> è stato inserito da <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Ferdinando_Fedi&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Ferdinando Fedi (la pagina non esiste)">Ferdinando Fedi</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Ferdinando_Fedi" title="Discussioni utente:Ferdinando Fedi">discussioni</a> · <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/Ferdinando_Fedi" title="Speciale:Contributi/Ferdinando Fedi">contributi</a>) 12:55, 23 nov 2020 (CET)</i>.</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ferdinando Fedi|2020-11-23T11:55:00.000Z|Inserimento_voce_su_Wikipedia&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|95.244.17.210|2020-11-23T12:00:00.000Z|Ferdinando Fedi|2020-11-23T11:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T12:08:00.000Z|Ferdinando Fedi|2020-11-23T11:55:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-23T11:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ferdinando Fedi&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ferdinando Fedi|2020-11-23T11:55:00.000Z|Inserimento_voce_su_Wikipedia"></span>
+</p><p>Grazie, Ferdinando Fedi <small>— <i>Questo commento senza la <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiuto:Firma" title="Aiuto:Firma">firma utente</a> è stato inserito da <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Ferdinando_Fedi&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Ferdinando Fedi (la pagina non esiste)">Ferdinando Fedi</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:Ferdinando_Fedi" title="Discussioni utente:Ferdinando Fedi">discussioni</a> · <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/Ferdinando_Fedi" title="Speciale:Contributi/Ferdinando Fedi">contributi</a>) 12:55, 23 nov 2020 (CET)</i>.</small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ferdinando Fedi|2020-11-23T11:55:00.000Z|Inserimento_voce_su_Wikipedia&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|95.244.17.210|2020-11-23T12:00:00.000Z|Ferdinando Fedi|2020-11-23T11:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T12:08:00.000Z|Ferdinando Fedi|2020-11-23T11:55:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-23T11:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ferdinando Fedi&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ferdinando Fedi|2020-11-23T11:55:00.000Z|Inserimento_voce_su_Wikipedia"></span>
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 <dl><dd><small><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|95.244.17.210|2020-11-23T12:00:00.000Z|Ferdinando Fedi|2020-11-23T11:55:00.000Z"></span>[<abbr title="Il software di Wikipedia permette di inviare una notifica a un utente registrato per attirare la sua attenzione su una discussione che lo riguarda: è sufficiente scrivere all'interno del proprio messaggio il suo nickname – completo di &quot;Utente:&quot; – fra parentesi quadre e terminare il messaggio con la propria firma. Attento a non abusarne.">@</abbr> <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Ferdinando_Fedi&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Ferdinando Fedi (la pagina non esiste)">Ferdinando Fedi</a>]</b></small>Dove hai provato a inserirla? Perché la pagina <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ferdinando_Fedi&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Ferdinando Fedi (la pagina non esiste)">Ferdinando Fedi</a> non risulta né creata né cancellata.</dd>
-<dd>Vedi <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BIOGRAFIE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BIOGRAFIE">WP:BIOGRAFIE</a> e <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Autobiografie" title="Wikipedia:Autobiografie">Wikipedia:Autobiografie</a>. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/95.244.17.210" title="Speciale:Contributi/95.244.17.210">95.244.17.210</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:95.244.17.210" title="Discussioni utente:95.244.17.210">msg</a>) 13:00, 23 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|95.244.17.210|2020-11-23T12:00:00.000Z|Ferdinando Fedi|2020-11-23T11:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-23T12:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;95.244.17.210&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|95.244.17.210|2020-11-23T12:00:00.000Z|Ferdinando Fedi|2020-11-23T11:55:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T12:08:00.000Z|Ferdinando Fedi|2020-11-23T11:55:00.000Z"></span>@IP L'utente ha creato <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Ferdinando_Fedi&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Ferdinando Fedi (la pagina non esiste)">Utente:Ferdinando Fedi</a>, ancor più sbagliato. @Ferdinando Ferdi Ti consiglio di iniziare una bozza in <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Ferdinando_Fedi/Sandbox" title="Utente:Ferdinando Fedi/Sandbox">Utente:Ferdinando Fedi/Sandbox</a>, sempre tenendo conto di quanto scritto sopra--<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;text-shadow:1px 1px 1px purple"><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:ValeJappo" title="Utente:ValeJappo"><span style="color:white">Val<span style="color:red">eJa</span>ppo</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:ValeJappo" title="Discussioni utente:ValeJappo"><small style="color:red">【〒】</small></a></span> 13:08, 23 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T12:08:00.000Z|Ferdinando Fedi|2020-11-23T11:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-23T12:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ValeJappo&quot;}">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T12:08:00.000Z|Ferdinando Fedi|2020-11-23T11:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dd>Vedi <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BIOGRAFIE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BIOGRAFIE">WP:BIOGRAFIE</a> e <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Autobiografie" title="Wikipedia:Autobiografie">Wikipedia:Autobiografie</a>. --<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/95.244.17.210" title="Speciale:Contributi/95.244.17.210">95.244.17.210</a> (<a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:95.244.17.210" title="Discussioni utente:95.244.17.210">msg</a>) 13:00, 23 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|95.244.17.210|2020-11-23T12:00:00.000Z|Ferdinando Fedi|2020-11-23T11:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-23T12:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;95.244.17.210&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|95.244.17.210|2020-11-23T12:00:00.000Z|Ferdinando Fedi|2020-11-23T11:55:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T12:08:00.000Z|Ferdinando Fedi|2020-11-23T11:55:00.000Z"></span>@IP L'utente ha creato <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Ferdinando_Fedi&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Utente:Ferdinando Fedi (la pagina non esiste)">Utente:Ferdinando Fedi</a>, ancor più sbagliato. @Ferdinando Ferdi Ti consiglio di iniziare una bozza in <a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Ferdinando_Fedi/Sandbox" title="Utente:Ferdinando Fedi/Sandbox">Utente:Ferdinando Fedi/Sandbox</a>, sempre tenendo conto di quanto scritto sopra--<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;text-shadow:1px 1px 1px purple"><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:ValeJappo" title="Utente:ValeJappo"><span style="color:white">Val<span style="color:red">eJa</span>ppo</span></a><a href="//it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:ValeJappo" title="Discussioni utente:ValeJappo"><small style="color:red">【〒】</small></a></span> 13:08, 23 nov 2020 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T12:08:00.000Z|Ferdinando Fedi|2020-11-23T11:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-23T12:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;ValeJappo&quot;}" href="">rispondi</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|ValeJappo|2020-11-23T12:08:00.000Z|Ferdinando Fedi|2020-11-23T11:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
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 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Stok|2018-09-29T06:23:00.000Z|Kalendarium"></span>W artykule <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diecezja_legnicka" title="Diecezja legnicka">Diecezja legnicka</a> po wstępie następuje bardzo długie kalendarium, w którym wymieniono niemal wszystko co w życiu społeczności katolickiej wydarzyło się na terenie diecezji lub było z nią w nawet najmniejszym stopniu związane, np.<i>15 lipca – w kościele pw. Najświętszego Serca Pana Jezusa w Legnicy (os. Piekary) miała miejsce premiera oratorium...</i>.
-</p><p>Zamierzam usunąć większość zapisów z tego kalendarium. Proszę o wypowiedzi tu lub dyskusję w trakcie usuwania. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Stok" title="Wikipedysta:Stok">StoK</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Stok" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Stok">dyskusja</a>) 08:23, 29 wrz 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Stok|2018-09-29T06:23:00.000Z|Kalendarium&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Cybularny|2018-09-29T07:06:00.000Z|Stok|2018-09-29T06:23:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-09-29T06:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Stok&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Stok|2018-09-29T06:23:00.000Z|Kalendarium"></span>
+</p><p>Zamierzam usunąć większość zapisów z tego kalendarium. Proszę o wypowiedzi tu lub dyskusję w trakcie usuwania. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Stok" title="Wikipedysta:Stok">StoK</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Stok" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Stok">dyskusja</a>) 08:23, 29 wrz 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Stok|2018-09-29T06:23:00.000Z|Kalendarium&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Cybularny|2018-09-29T07:06:00.000Z|Stok|2018-09-29T06:23:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-09-29T06:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Stok&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Stok|2018-09-29T06:23:00.000Z|Kalendarium"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Cybularny|2018-09-29T07:06:00.000Z|Stok|2018-09-29T06:23:00.000Z"></span>Sporo treści jest bez źródeł, więc nie widzę przeciwwskazań do usunięcia. ~<b><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Cybularny" title="Wikipedysta:Cybularny"><font face="Comic Sans MS" color="#00 00 CD"><b>Cybularny</b></font></a></b><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Cybularny" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Cybularny"><u><sup><font face="Book Antiqua" color="#FF 00 00"><i><b>Napisz coś ✉</b></i></font></sup></u></a> 09:06, 29 wrz 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Cybularny|2018-09-29T07:06:00.000Z|Stok|2018-09-29T06:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Zwiadowca21|2018-10-01T18:20:00.000Z|Cybularny|2018-09-29T07:06:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-09-29T07:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Cybularny&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Cybularny|2018-09-29T07:06:00.000Z|Stok|2018-09-29T06:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CWNJ#1.8" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CWNJ"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Zwiadowca21|2018-10-01T18:20:00.000Z|Cybularny|2018-09-29T07:06:00.000Z"></span>WP:CWNJ#1.8</a> mówi: <i>"Wikipedia nie jest bezładnym zbiorem rzeczy i informacji. To, że coś jest w 100% prawdziwe, nie oznacza automatycznie, że jest odpowiednie, by znaleźć się w Wikipedii."</i> Jeśli już edytujesz ten artykuł, to zwróć uwagę na bałagan typu: raz <i>erygowan<b>ie</b></i>, a raz <i>erygowan<b>o</b></i>, raz <i>eryg<b>uje</b></i>. Pomieszanie czasów i trybów. <b><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Zwiadowca21" title="Wikipedysta:Zwiadowca21"><span style="color: red">Zwiadowca</span></a></b><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Zwiadowca21" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Zwiadowca21"><sup><span style="color: blue"><i>21</i></span></sup></a> 20:20, 1 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Zwiadowca21|2018-10-01T18:20:00.000Z|Cybularny|2018-09-29T07:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-01T18:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Zwiadowca21&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Zwiadowca21|2018-10-01T18:20:00.000Z|Cybularny|2018-09-29T07:06:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Cybularny|2018-09-29T07:06:00.000Z|Stok|2018-09-29T06:23:00.000Z"></span>Sporo treści jest bez źródeł, więc nie widzę przeciwwskazań do usunięcia. ~<b><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Cybularny" title="Wikipedysta:Cybularny"><font face="Comic Sans MS" color="#00 00 CD"><b>Cybularny</b></font></a></b><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Cybularny" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Cybularny"><u><sup><font face="Book Antiqua" color="#FF 00 00"><i><b>Napisz coś ✉</b></i></font></sup></u></a> 09:06, 29 wrz 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Cybularny|2018-09-29T07:06:00.000Z|Stok|2018-09-29T06:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Zwiadowca21|2018-10-01T18:20:00.000Z|Cybularny|2018-09-29T07:06:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-09-29T07:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Cybularny&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Cybularny|2018-09-29T07:06:00.000Z|Stok|2018-09-29T06:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CWNJ#1.8" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CWNJ"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Zwiadowca21|2018-10-01T18:20:00.000Z|Cybularny|2018-09-29T07:06:00.000Z"></span>WP:CWNJ#1.8</a> mówi: <i>"Wikipedia nie jest bezładnym zbiorem rzeczy i informacji. To, że coś jest w 100% prawdziwe, nie oznacza automatycznie, że jest odpowiednie, by znaleźć się w Wikipedii."</i> Jeśli już edytujesz ten artykuł, to zwróć uwagę na bałagan typu: raz <i>erygowan<b>ie</b></i>, a raz <i>erygowan<b>o</b></i>, raz <i>eryg<b>uje</b></i>. Pomieszanie czasów i trybów. <b><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Zwiadowca21" title="Wikipedysta:Zwiadowca21"><span style="color: red">Zwiadowca</span></a></b><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Zwiadowca21" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Zwiadowca21"><sup><span style="color: blue"><i>21</i></span></sup></a> 20:20, 1 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Zwiadowca21|2018-10-01T18:20:00.000Z|Cybularny|2018-09-29T07:06:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-01T18:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Zwiadowca21&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Zwiadowca21|2018-10-01T18:20:00.000Z|Cybularny|2018-09-29T07:06:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Zmiany_interwiki_w_Wikidanych" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Zmiany_interwiki_w_Wikidanych|2018-09-30T01:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Wostr|2018-09-30T01:22:00.000Z|Zmiany_interwiki_w_Wikidanych&quot;,&quot;c|WTM|2018-09-30T10:42:00.000Z|Zmiany_interwiki_w_Wikidanych&quot;,&quot;c|WTM|2018-09-30T22:17:00.000Z|Zmiany_interwiki_w_Wikidanych&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Zmiany_interwiki_w_Wikidanych|2018-09-30T01:22:00.000Z"></span>Zmiany interwiki w Wikidanych<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Zmiany_interwiki_w_Wikidanych|2018-09-30T01:22:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Wostr|2018-09-30T01:22:00.000Z|Zmiany_interwiki_w_Wikidanych"></span>Z uwagi na to, że zmiany interwiki są znacznie mniej widoczne od czasu, gdy zostały przeniesione na Wikidane, poniżej wklejam zmiany, które wyskoczyły jako „podejrzane” w narzędziu do śledzenia zmian w obrębie języka polskiego, a których poprawności nie jestem w stanie w 100% ocenić. Proszę zainteresowane osoby o zerknięcie, a jeśli coś jest nie tak – o informację zwrotną, abym mógł poprawić (jeśli jest okej, to też warto dać odhaczyć).
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 <li><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatymidzi" title="Fatymidzi">Fatymidzi</a> przeniesieni z <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q14932665" class="extiw" title="d:Q14932665">Fatymidzi</a> <small>(Q14932665)</small> do <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q160307" class="extiw" title="d:Q160307">Kalifat Fatymidów</a> <small>(Q160307)</small> <span class="template-done"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/OOjs_UI_icon_check.svg/20px-OOjs_UI_icon_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/OOjs_UI_icon_check.svg/30px-OOjs_UI_icon_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/OOjs_UI_icon_check.svg/40px-OOjs_UI_icon_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="20" data-file-height="20"/><span style="display:none">T</span> <b>Załatwione</b></span> rewert: Fatymidzi to nie  Kalifat fatymidzki --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:WTM" title="Wikipedysta:WTM">WTM</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:WTM" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:WTM">dyskusja</a>)</li>
 <li><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urbanistyka" title="Urbanistyka">Urbanistyka</a> przeniesiona z <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q59950" class="extiw" title="d:Q59950">Urbanistyka</a> <small>(Q59950)</small> do <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q69883" class="extiw" title="d:Q69883">Urbanistyka</a> <small>(Q69883)</small></li>
 <li><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Przedkaukazie" title="Przedkaukazie">Przedkaukazie</a> przeniesione z <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1232392" class="extiw" title="d:Q1232392">Kaukaz Północny</a> <small>(Q1232392)</small> do <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q37736" class="extiw" title="d:Q37736">Przedkaukazie</a> <small>(Q37736)</small></li></ul>
-<p><i><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Wostr" title="Wikipedysta:Wostr">Wostr</a></i> <small>(<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Wostr" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Wostr">dyskusja</a>)</small> 03:22, 30 wrz 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Wostr|2018-09-30T01:22:00.000Z|Zmiany_interwiki_w_Wikidanych&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T07:43:00.000Z|Wostr|2018-09-30T01:22:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-09-30T01:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Wostr&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Wostr|2018-09-30T01:22:00.000Z|Zmiany_interwiki_w_Wikidanych"></span>
+<p><i><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Wostr" title="Wikipedysta:Wostr">Wostr</a></i> <small>(<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Wostr" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Wostr">dyskusja</a>)</small> 03:22, 30 wrz 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Wostr|2018-09-30T01:22:00.000Z|Zmiany_interwiki_w_Wikidanych&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T07:43:00.000Z|Wostr|2018-09-30T01:22:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-09-30T01:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Wostr&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Wostr|2018-09-30T01:22:00.000Z|Zmiany_interwiki_w_Wikidanych"></span>
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-<ul><li><ul><li><a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3374262" class="extiw" title="d:Q3374262"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T07:43:00.000Z|Wostr|2018-09-30T01:22:00.000Z"></span>market town</a> <small>(Q3374262)</small> dotyczy gmin czeskich, więc należało je stamtąd usunąć. Czy miasteczko to town nie wiem, ale na to wygląda. Artykuł na lt.wiki dotychczy chyba gmin Litewskich, więc również należałoby usunąć. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Eurohunter" title="Wikipedysta:Eurohunter">Eurohunter</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Eurohunter" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Eurohunter">dyskusja</a>) 09:43, 30 wrz 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T07:43:00.000Z|Wostr|2018-09-30T01:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T07:52:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T07:43:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-09-30T07:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Eurohunter&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T07:43:00.000Z|Wostr|2018-09-30T01:22:00.000Z"></span>
-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T07:52:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T07:43:00.000Z"></span>Jest jeszcze <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q48768130" class="extiw" title="d:Q48768130">miasteczko</a> <small>(Q48768130)</small>. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Eurohunter" title="Wikipedysta:Eurohunter">Eurohunter</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Eurohunter" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Eurohunter">dyskusja</a>) 09:52, 30 wrz 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T07:52:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T07:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T07:55:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T07:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-09-30T07:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Eurohunter&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T07:52:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T07:43:00.000Z"></span>
-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T07:55:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T07:52:00.000Z"></span>Btw. jeśli przenosicie artykuły, pamiętajcie aby przenieść etykietę, opis i inne nazwy. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Eurohunter" title="Wikipedysta:Eurohunter">Eurohunter</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Eurohunter" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Eurohunter">dyskusja</a>) 09:55, 30 wrz 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T07:55:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T07:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-09-30T07:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Eurohunter&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T07:55:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T07:52:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul>
+<ul><li><ul><li><a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3374262" class="extiw" title="d:Q3374262"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T07:43:00.000Z|Wostr|2018-09-30T01:22:00.000Z"></span>market town</a> <small>(Q3374262)</small> dotyczy gmin czeskich, więc należało je stamtąd usunąć. Czy miasteczko to town nie wiem, ale na to wygląda. Artykuł na lt.wiki dotychczy chyba gmin Litewskich, więc również należałoby usunąć. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Eurohunter" title="Wikipedysta:Eurohunter">Eurohunter</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Eurohunter" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Eurohunter">dyskusja</a>) 09:43, 30 wrz 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T07:43:00.000Z|Wostr|2018-09-30T01:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T07:52:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T07:43:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-09-30T07:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Eurohunter&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T07:43:00.000Z|Wostr|2018-09-30T01:22:00.000Z"></span>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T07:52:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T07:43:00.000Z"></span>Jest jeszcze <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q48768130" class="extiw" title="d:Q48768130">miasteczko</a> <small>(Q48768130)</small>. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Eurohunter" title="Wikipedysta:Eurohunter">Eurohunter</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Eurohunter" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Eurohunter">dyskusja</a>) 09:52, 30 wrz 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T07:52:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T07:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T07:55:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T07:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-09-30T07:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Eurohunter&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T07:52:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T07:43:00.000Z"></span>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T07:55:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T07:52:00.000Z"></span>Btw. jeśli przenosicie artykuły, pamiętajcie aby przenieść etykietę, opis i inne nazwy. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Eurohunter" title="Wikipedysta:Eurohunter">Eurohunter</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Eurohunter" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Eurohunter">dyskusja</a>) 09:55, 30 wrz 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T07:55:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T07:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-09-30T07:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Eurohunter&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T07:55:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T07:52:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|WTM|2018-09-30T10:42:00.000Z|Zmiany_interwiki_w_Wikidanych"></span>@<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Eurohunter" title="Wikipedysta:Eurohunter">Eurohunter</a> Czeskich městysów dotyczy <a href="https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C4%9Bstys" class="extiw" title="cs:Městys">cs:Městys</a> i <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C4%9Bstys" class="extiw" title="en:Městys">en:Městys</a>, więc te dwa koniecznie powinny być ze sobą powiązane. Coś ci nie poszło najlepiej. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:WTM" title="Wikipedysta:WTM">WTM</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:WTM" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:WTM">dyskusja</a>) 12:42, 30 wrz 2018 (CEST)
-Z kolei <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miasteczko" class="extiw" title="en:Miasteczko">en:Miasteczko</a> dotyczy miasteczek w Rzeczpospolitej Obojga Narodów, a dokładnie te opisuje ru, be, be-tarask, bg oraz ja (sic!), no ale już nie nl, nds-nl, fy (te są bardziej o Niderlandach), ka, xmf (te są o Gruzji). --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:WTM" title="Wikipedysta:WTM">WTM</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:WTM" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:WTM">dyskusja</a>) 12:57, 30 wrz 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|WTM|2018-09-30T10:42:00.000Z|Zmiany_interwiki_w_Wikidanych&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T11:09:00.000Z|WTM|2018-09-30T10:42:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-09-30T10:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;WTM&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|WTM|2018-09-30T10:42:00.000Z|Zmiany_interwiki_w_Wikidanych"></span>
+Z kolei <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miasteczko" class="extiw" title="en:Miasteczko">en:Miasteczko</a> dotyczy miasteczek w Rzeczpospolitej Obojga Narodów, a dokładnie te opisuje ru, be, be-tarask, bg oraz ja (sic!), no ale już nie nl, nds-nl, fy (te są bardziej o Niderlandach), ka, xmf (te są o Gruzji). --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:WTM" title="Wikipedysta:WTM">WTM</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:WTM" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:WTM">dyskusja</a>) 12:57, 30 wrz 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|WTM|2018-09-30T10:42:00.000Z|Zmiany_interwiki_w_Wikidanych&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T11:09:00.000Z|WTM|2018-09-30T10:42:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-09-30T10:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;WTM&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|WTM|2018-09-30T10:42:00.000Z|Zmiany_interwiki_w_Wikidanych"></span>
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-<ul><li><a href="https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C4%9Bstys" class="extiw" title="cs:Městys"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T11:09:00.000Z|WTM|2018-09-30T10:42:00.000Z"></span>cs:Městys</a> nie dotyczy Czech (definicja). <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Eurohunter" title="Wikipedysta:Eurohunter">Eurohunter</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Eurohunter" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Eurohunter">dyskusja</a>) 13:09, 30 wrz 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T11:09:00.000Z|WTM|2018-09-30T10:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Yashaa|2018-09-30T16:32:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T11:09:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-09-30T11:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Eurohunter&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T11:09:00.000Z|WTM|2018-09-30T10:42:00.000Z"></span>
-<ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Yashaa|2018-09-30T16:32:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T11:09:00.000Z"></span>Kalifat Fatymidzki</b>, coś takiego jak "fatimidski" nie istnieje. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Yashaa" title="Wikipedysta:Yashaa">Yashaa</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Yashaa" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Yashaa">dyskusja</a>) 18:32, 30 wrz 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Yashaa|2018-09-30T16:32:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T11:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T21:24:00.000Z|Yashaa|2018-09-30T16:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-09-30T16:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Yashaa&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Yashaa|2018-09-30T16:32:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T11:09:00.000Z"></span>
-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T21:24:00.000Z|Yashaa|2018-09-30T16:32:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Yashaa" title="Wikipedysta:Yashaa">Yashaa</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://pl.glosbe.com/en/pl/Fatimid">Jesteś pewien?</a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Eurohunter" title="Wikipedysta:Eurohunter">Eurohunter</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Eurohunter" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Eurohunter">dyskusja</a>) 23:24, 30 wrz 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T21:24:00.000Z|Yashaa|2018-09-30T16:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Yashaa|2018-10-01T10:18:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T21:24:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-09-30T21:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Eurohunter&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T21:24:00.000Z|Yashaa|2018-09-30T16:32:00.000Z"></span>
-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Yashaa|2018-10-01T10:18:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T21:24:00.000Z"></span>Fatymidzi - fatymidzki, jak Abbasydzi - abbasydzki. Tak w znanych mi źródłach. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Yashaa" title="Wikipedysta:Yashaa">Yashaa</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Yashaa" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Yashaa">dyskusja</a>) 12:18, 1 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Yashaa|2018-10-01T10:18:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T21:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-01T10:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Yashaa&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Yashaa|2018-10-01T10:18:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T21:24:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|WTM|2018-09-30T22:17:00.000Z|Zmiany_interwiki_w_Wikidanych"></span>Anglojęzyczni powiadają: There are four types of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/mire" class="extiw" title="en:mire">en:mire</a>: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/bog" class="extiw" title="en:bog">en:bog</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/fen" class="extiw" title="en:fen">en:fen</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/marsh" class="extiw" title="en:marsh">en:marsh</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/swamp" class="extiw" title="en:swamp">en:swamp</a>. Zmiana w interwiki polegała na tym, że pl:torfowisko przeniesiono z dotychczasowego <i>mire</i> do <i>bog</i> - nie potrafię ocenić czy poprawnie. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:WTM" title="Wikipedysta:WTM">WTM</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:WTM" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:WTM">dyskusja</a>) 00:17, 1 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|WTM|2018-09-30T22:17:00.000Z|Zmiany_interwiki_w_Wikidanych&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Panek|2018-10-01T06:39:00.000Z|WTM|2018-09-30T22:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Barcival|2018-10-01T20:23:00.000Z|WTM|2018-09-30T22:17:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-09-30T22:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;WTM&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<ul><li><a href="https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C4%9Bstys" class="extiw" title="cs:Městys"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T11:09:00.000Z|WTM|2018-09-30T10:42:00.000Z"></span>cs:Městys</a> nie dotyczy Czech (definicja). <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Eurohunter" title="Wikipedysta:Eurohunter">Eurohunter</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Eurohunter" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Eurohunter">dyskusja</a>) 13:09, 30 wrz 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T11:09:00.000Z|WTM|2018-09-30T10:42:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Yashaa|2018-09-30T16:32:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T11:09:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-09-30T11:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Eurohunter&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T11:09:00.000Z|WTM|2018-09-30T10:42:00.000Z"></span>
+<ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Yashaa|2018-09-30T16:32:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T11:09:00.000Z"></span>Kalifat Fatymidzki</b>, coś takiego jak "fatimidski" nie istnieje. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Yashaa" title="Wikipedysta:Yashaa">Yashaa</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Yashaa" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Yashaa">dyskusja</a>) 18:32, 30 wrz 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Yashaa|2018-09-30T16:32:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T11:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T21:24:00.000Z|Yashaa|2018-09-30T16:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-09-30T16:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Yashaa&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Yashaa|2018-09-30T16:32:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T11:09:00.000Z"></span>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T21:24:00.000Z|Yashaa|2018-09-30T16:32:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Yashaa" title="Wikipedysta:Yashaa">Yashaa</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://pl.glosbe.com/en/pl/Fatimid">Jesteś pewien?</a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Eurohunter" title="Wikipedysta:Eurohunter">Eurohunter</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Eurohunter" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Eurohunter">dyskusja</a>) 23:24, 30 wrz 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T21:24:00.000Z|Yashaa|2018-09-30T16:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Yashaa|2018-10-01T10:18:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T21:24:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-09-30T21:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Eurohunter&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T21:24:00.000Z|Yashaa|2018-09-30T16:32:00.000Z"></span>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Yashaa|2018-10-01T10:18:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T21:24:00.000Z"></span>Fatymidzi - fatymidzki, jak Abbasydzi - abbasydzki. Tak w znanych mi źródłach. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Yashaa" title="Wikipedysta:Yashaa">Yashaa</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Yashaa" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Yashaa">dyskusja</a>) 12:18, 1 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Yashaa|2018-10-01T10:18:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T21:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-01T10:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Yashaa&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Yashaa|2018-10-01T10:18:00.000Z|Eurohunter|2018-09-30T21:24:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|WTM|2018-09-30T22:17:00.000Z|Zmiany_interwiki_w_Wikidanych"></span>Anglojęzyczni powiadają: There are four types of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/mire" class="extiw" title="en:mire">en:mire</a>: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/bog" class="extiw" title="en:bog">en:bog</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/fen" class="extiw" title="en:fen">en:fen</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/marsh" class="extiw" title="en:marsh">en:marsh</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/swamp" class="extiw" title="en:swamp">en:swamp</a>. Zmiana w interwiki polegała na tym, że pl:torfowisko przeniesiono z dotychczasowego <i>mire</i> do <i>bog</i> - nie potrafię ocenić czy poprawnie. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:WTM" title="Wikipedysta:WTM">WTM</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:WTM" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:WTM">dyskusja</a>) 00:17, 1 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|WTM|2018-09-30T22:17:00.000Z|Zmiany_interwiki_w_Wikidanych&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Panek|2018-10-01T06:39:00.000Z|WTM|2018-09-30T22:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Barcival|2018-10-01T20:23:00.000Z|WTM|2018-09-30T22:17:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-09-30T22:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;WTM&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Panek|2018-10-01T06:39:00.000Z|WTM|2018-09-30T22:17:00.000Z"></span>Zamieszanie w terminologii mokradłowej jest tak duże, że wymagałoby przeglądnięcia wszystkich językowych możliwości i robienia różnych roszad, a i tak by się nie dało ujednolicić. (Tu pozdrowienia dla osób, które wyrażają pogląd, że wersje językowe wikipedii powinny być identyczne.) Przywróciłem powiązanie polskiego torfowiska z angielskim mire, choć pewnie lepsze byłoby nieistniejące angielskie peatland, co dałoby jeszcze więcej zamieszania. Nie jest to idealne, ale lepsze niż wiązanie z bog, które najbardziej odpowiada polskiemu torfowisku wysokiemu. Podejrzewam, że interwiki z innych języków mogłyby sugerować co innego, ale za sprawdzanie odpowiedników w innych językach się nie zabiorę. Tu mam właśnie podejrzenia, że i z innych języków lepsze byłoby związanie ich terminów z mire niż z bog. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Panek" title="Wikipedysta:Panek">Panek</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Panek" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Panek">dyskusja</a>) 08:39, 1 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Panek|2018-10-01T06:39:00.000Z|WTM|2018-09-30T22:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Panek|2018-10-01T09:52:00.000Z|Panek|2018-10-01T06:39:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-01T06:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Panek&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Panek|2018-10-01T06:39:00.000Z|WTM|2018-09-30T22:17:00.000Z"></span>Zamieszanie w terminologii mokradłowej jest tak duże, że wymagałoby przeglądnięcia wszystkich językowych możliwości i robienia różnych roszad, a i tak by się nie dało ujednolicić. (Tu pozdrowienia dla osób, które wyrażają pogląd, że wersje językowe wikipedii powinny być identyczne.) Przywróciłem powiązanie polskiego torfowiska z angielskim mire, choć pewnie lepsze byłoby nieistniejące angielskie peatland, co dałoby jeszcze więcej zamieszania. Nie jest to idealne, ale lepsze niż wiązanie z bog, które najbardziej odpowiada polskiemu torfowisku wysokiemu. Podejrzewam, że interwiki z innych języków mogłyby sugerować co innego, ale za sprawdzanie odpowiedników w innych językach się nie zabiorę. Tu mam właśnie podejrzenia, że i z innych języków lepsze byłoby związanie ich terminów z mire niż z bog. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Panek" title="Wikipedysta:Panek">Panek</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Panek" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Panek">dyskusja</a>) 08:39, 1 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Panek|2018-10-01T06:39:00.000Z|WTM|2018-09-30T22:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Panek|2018-10-01T09:52:00.000Z|Panek|2018-10-01T06:39:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-01T06:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Panek&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
 <span data-mw-comment-end="c|Panek|2018-10-01T06:39:00.000Z|WTM|2018-09-30T22:17:00.000Z"></span><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Panek|2018-10-01T09:52:00.000Z|Panek|2018-10-01T06:39:00.000Z"></span>Jeśli torfowisko odpowiada peatland to powinieneś utworzyć stronę WD z linkiem do pl.wiki i etykietami pl.wiki. i en.wiki. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Eurohunter" title="Wikipedysta:Eurohunter">Eurohunter</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Eurohunter" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Eurohunter">dyskusja</a>) 09:59, 1 paź 2018 (CEST</li>
-<li>Na enwiki nie ma artykułu peatland. Jest lakoniczna wzmianka w mire, że peatland to torfowisko żywe lub zdegradowane, a mire to tylko żywe. Teoretycznie trzeba by na enwiki utworzyć stuba peatland,  żeby połączyć go z naszym torfowiskiem a może i kilkudziesięcioma z innych języków, ale nie chce mi się tego forsować na enwiki. U nas można by zrobić stuba"torfowisko żywe " . A enwiki bog w ogóle wprowadza w błąd. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Panek" title="Wikipedysta:Panek">Panek</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Panek" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Panek">dyskusja</a>) 11:52, 1 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Panek|2018-10-01T09:52:00.000Z|Panek|2018-10-01T06:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-01T09:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Panek&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Panek|2018-10-01T09:52:00.000Z|Panek|2018-10-01T06:39:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Barcival|2018-10-01T20:23:00.000Z|WTM|2018-09-30T22:17:00.000Z"></span>Z wiedzą o społeczeństwie jest bałagan. W pierwszym elemencie nie powinna się znajdować, bo ten dotyczy kierunku studiów. Nie jestem jednak przekonany, czy wszystkie interwiki w drugim elemencie mówią o tym samym. Jest jeszcze <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q10270843" class="extiw" title="d:Q10270843">Wychowanie obywatelskie</a> <small>(Q10270843)</small>, gdzie angielska wersja mówi o WOS. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Barcival" title="Wikipedysta:Barcival">Barcival</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Barcival" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Barcival">dyskusja</a>) 22:23, 1 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Barcival|2018-10-01T20:23:00.000Z|WTM|2018-09-30T22:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-01T20:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Barcival&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Barcival|2018-10-01T20:23:00.000Z|WTM|2018-09-30T22:17:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<li>Na enwiki nie ma artykułu peatland. Jest lakoniczna wzmianka w mire, że peatland to torfowisko żywe lub zdegradowane, a mire to tylko żywe. Teoretycznie trzeba by na enwiki utworzyć stuba peatland,  żeby połączyć go z naszym torfowiskiem a może i kilkudziesięcioma z innych języków, ale nie chce mi się tego forsować na enwiki. U nas można by zrobić stuba"torfowisko żywe " . A enwiki bog w ogóle wprowadza w błąd. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Panek" title="Wikipedysta:Panek">Panek</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Panek" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Panek">dyskusja</a>) 11:52, 1 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Panek|2018-10-01T09:52:00.000Z|Panek|2018-10-01T06:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-01T09:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Panek&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Panek|2018-10-01T09:52:00.000Z|Panek|2018-10-01T06:39:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Barcival|2018-10-01T20:23:00.000Z|WTM|2018-09-30T22:17:00.000Z"></span>Z wiedzą o społeczeństwie jest bałagan. W pierwszym elemencie nie powinna się znajdować, bo ten dotyczy kierunku studiów. Nie jestem jednak przekonany, czy wszystkie interwiki w drugim elemencie mówią o tym samym. Jest jeszcze <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q10270843" class="extiw" title="d:Q10270843">Wychowanie obywatelskie</a> <small>(Q10270843)</small>, gdzie angielska wersja mówi o WOS. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Barcival" title="Wikipedysta:Barcival">Barcival</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Barcival" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Barcival">dyskusja</a>) 22:23, 1 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Barcival|2018-10-01T20:23:00.000Z|WTM|2018-09-30T22:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-01T20:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Barcival&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Barcival|2018-10-01T20:23:00.000Z|WTM|2018-09-30T22:17:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
 <h2><span id="Hymn_Polski_a_Mazurek_D.C4.85browskiego"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Hymn_Polski_a_Mazurek_Dąbrowskiego" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Hymn_Polski_a_Mazurek_D\u0105browskiego|2018-10-01T13:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Zwiadowca21|2018-10-01T13:54:00.000Z|Hymn_Polski_a_Mazurek_D\u0105browskiego&quot;,&quot;c|Piolodiusz|2018-10-01T17:32:00.000Z|Hymn_Polski_a_Mazurek_D\u0105browskiego&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Hymn_Polski_a_Mazurek_Dąbrowskiego|2018-10-01T13:54:00.000Z"></span><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hymn_Polski" title="Hymn Polski">Hymn Polski</a> a <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazurek_D%C4%85browskiego" class="mw-redirect" title="Mazurek Dąbrowskiego">Mazurek Dąbrowskiego</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h|Hymn_Polski_a_Mazurek_Dąbrowskiego|2018-10-01T13:54:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Zwiadowca21|2018-10-01T13:54:00.000Z|Hymn_Polski_a_Mazurek_Dąbrowskiego"></span>Moi drodzy, nie chcę wszczynać kłótni, ale wydaje mi się że powinny być dwa hasła: <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hymn_Polski" title="Hymn Polski">Hymn Polski</a> i <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazurek_D%C4%85browskiego" class="mw-redirect" title="Mazurek Dąbrowskiego">Mazurek Dąbrowskiego</a>. Artykuł o hymnie powinien mówić o tym jakie hymny były wcześniej w Polsce, jaki jest obecny, jak się go wykonuje i chroni. Część można wziąć z <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hymn_Polski" title="Hymn Polski">Hymn Polski</a>, część z <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polskie_pie%C5%9Bni_hymniczne" title="Polskie pieśni hymniczne">Polskie pieśni hymniczne</a>. Poza tym cały <i>Mazurek...</i> nie jest hymnem, tylko cztery strofy. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazurek_D%C4%85browskiego" class="mw-redirect" title="Mazurek Dąbrowskiego">Mazurek Dąbrowskiego</a> powinien być tylko artykułem o utworze. A wy jak uważacie? <b><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Zwiadowca21" title="Wikipedysta:Zwiadowca21"><span style="color: red">Zwiadowca</span></a></b><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Zwiadowca21" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Zwiadowca21"><sup><span style="color: blue"><i>21</i></span></sup></a> 15:54, 1 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Zwiadowca21|2018-10-01T13:54:00.000Z|Hymn_Polski_a_Mazurek_D\u0105browskiego&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-01T13:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Zwiadowca21&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Zwiadowca21|2018-10-01T13:54:00.000Z|Hymn_Polski_a_Mazurek_Dąbrowskiego"></span></p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Piolodiusz|2018-10-01T17:32:00.000Z|Hymn_Polski_a_Mazurek_Dąbrowskiego"></span>Sądzę, że to dość dobry pomysł. Historia hymnu polski a <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hymn_Polski" title="Hymn Polski">mazurka</a> są trochę inne. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Piolodiusz" title="Wikipedysta:Piolodiusz">Piolodiusz</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Piolodiusz" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Piolodiusz">dyskusja</a>) 19:32, 1 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Piolodiusz|2018-10-01T17:32:00.000Z|Hymn_Polski_a_Mazurek_D\u0105browskiego&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Eurohunter|2018-10-02T16:02:00.000Z|Piolodiusz|2018-10-01T17:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-01T17:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Piolodiusz&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Zwiadowca21|2018-10-01T13:54:00.000Z|Hymn_Polski_a_Mazurek_Dąbrowskiego"></span>Moi drodzy, nie chcę wszczynać kłótni, ale wydaje mi się że powinny być dwa hasła: <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hymn_Polski" title="Hymn Polski">Hymn Polski</a> i <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazurek_D%C4%85browskiego" class="mw-redirect" title="Mazurek Dąbrowskiego">Mazurek Dąbrowskiego</a>. Artykuł o hymnie powinien mówić o tym jakie hymny były wcześniej w Polsce, jaki jest obecny, jak się go wykonuje i chroni. Część można wziąć z <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hymn_Polski" title="Hymn Polski">Hymn Polski</a>, część z <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polskie_pie%C5%9Bni_hymniczne" title="Polskie pieśni hymniczne">Polskie pieśni hymniczne</a>. Poza tym cały <i>Mazurek...</i> nie jest hymnem, tylko cztery strofy. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazurek_D%C4%85browskiego" class="mw-redirect" title="Mazurek Dąbrowskiego">Mazurek Dąbrowskiego</a> powinien być tylko artykułem o utworze. A wy jak uważacie? <b><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Zwiadowca21" title="Wikipedysta:Zwiadowca21"><span style="color: red">Zwiadowca</span></a></b><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Zwiadowca21" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Zwiadowca21"><sup><span style="color: blue"><i>21</i></span></sup></a> 15:54, 1 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Zwiadowca21|2018-10-01T13:54:00.000Z|Hymn_Polski_a_Mazurek_D\u0105browskiego&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-01T13:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Zwiadowca21&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Zwiadowca21|2018-10-01T13:54:00.000Z|Hymn_Polski_a_Mazurek_Dąbrowskiego"></span></p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Piolodiusz|2018-10-01T17:32:00.000Z|Hymn_Polski_a_Mazurek_Dąbrowskiego"></span>Sądzę, że to dość dobry pomysł. Historia hymnu polski a <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hymn_Polski" title="Hymn Polski">mazurka</a> są trochę inne. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Piolodiusz" title="Wikipedysta:Piolodiusz">Piolodiusz</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Piolodiusz" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Piolodiusz">dyskusja</a>) 19:32, 1 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Piolodiusz|2018-10-01T17:32:00.000Z|Hymn_Polski_a_Mazurek_D\u0105browskiego&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Eurohunter|2018-10-02T16:02:00.000Z|Piolodiusz|2018-10-01T17:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-01T17:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Piolodiusz&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Eurohunter|2018-10-02T16:02:00.000Z|Piolodiusz|2018-10-01T17:32:00.000Z"></span>Dodam, że artykuł istnieje pod nazwą "Hymn Polski", a we wstępie jest od razu "Mazurek Dąbrowskiego", bez sensu. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Eurohunter" title="Wikipedysta:Eurohunter">Eurohunter</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Eurohunter" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Eurohunter">dyskusja</a>) 18:02, 2 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Eurohunter|2018-10-02T16:02:00.000Z|Piolodiusz|2018-10-01T17:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-02T16:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Eurohunter&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Eurohunter|2018-10-02T16:02:00.000Z|Piolodiusz|2018-10-01T17:32:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Eurohunter|2018-10-02T16:02:00.000Z|Piolodiusz|2018-10-01T17:32:00.000Z"></span>Dodam, że artykuł istnieje pod nazwą "Hymn Polski", a we wstępie jest od razu "Mazurek Dąbrowskiego", bez sensu. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Eurohunter" title="Wikipedysta:Eurohunter">Eurohunter</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Eurohunter" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Eurohunter">dyskusja</a>) 18:02, 2 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Eurohunter|2018-10-02T16:02:00.000Z|Piolodiusz|2018-10-01T17:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-02T16:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Eurohunter&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Eurohunter|2018-10-02T16:02:00.000Z|Piolodiusz|2018-10-01T17:32:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Elx" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Elx|2018-10-03T12:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MOs810|2018-10-03T12:51:00.000Z|Elx&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Elx|2018-10-03T12:51:00.000Z"></span><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elx" class="mw-redirect" title="Elx">Elx</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h|Elx|2018-10-03T12:51:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MOs810|2018-10-03T12:51:00.000Z|Elx"></span>Hasło o mieście, a połowa to opis jakiegoś muralu, który malowali <i>zwykli zjadacze chleba</i>. Moim zdaniem waga jest tutaj zaburzona. Jeśli ten mural jest ważny, to może winien stanowić odrębne hasło? Oczywiście po napisaniu encyklopedycznym językiem... <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:MOs810" title="Wikipedysta:MOs810">MOs810</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:MOs810" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:MOs810">dyskusja</a>) 14:51, 3 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MOs810|2018-10-03T12:51:00.000Z|Elx&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Teukros|2018-10-03T13:16:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-10-03T12:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Aotearoa|2018-10-03T17:27:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-10-03T12:51:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-03T12:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MOs810&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MOs810|2018-10-03T12:51:00.000Z|Elx"></span>Hasło o mieście, a połowa to opis jakiegoś muralu, który malowali <i>zwykli zjadacze chleba</i>. Moim zdaniem waga jest tutaj zaburzona. Jeśli ten mural jest ważny, to może winien stanowić odrębne hasło? Oczywiście po napisaniu encyklopedycznym językiem... <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:MOs810" title="Wikipedysta:MOs810">MOs810</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:MOs810" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:MOs810">dyskusja</a>) 14:51, 3 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MOs810|2018-10-03T12:51:00.000Z|Elx&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Teukros|2018-10-03T13:16:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-10-03T12:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Aotearoa|2018-10-03T17:27:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-10-03T12:51:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-03T12:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MOs810&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
 <span data-mw-comment-end="c|MOs810|2018-10-03T12:51:00.000Z|Elx"></span></p>
-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Teukros|2018-10-03T13:16:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-10-03T12:51:00.000Z"></span>Dziwna sprawa z tym muralem: nie ma na jego temat hasła w żadnej wersji językowej (przynajmniej nic nie znajduję na wiki pod frazą <i>Proyecto Vibora</i>), a w medalowym haśle o Elx na eswiki nie jest nawet wspomniany. Może nie jest tak ważny, jak piszą? --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Teukros" title="Wikipedysta:Teukros">Teukros</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Teukros" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Teukros">dyskusja</a>) 15:16, 3 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Teukros|2018-10-03T13:16:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-10-03T12:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MOs810|2018-10-03T13:59:00.000Z|Teukros|2018-10-03T13:16:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-03T13:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Teukros&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Teukros|2018-10-03T13:16:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-10-03T12:51:00.000Z"></span><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MOs810|2018-10-03T13:59:00.000Z|Teukros|2018-10-03T13:16:00.000Z"></span>a co na to twórca @<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Havarese" title="Wikipedysta:Havarese">Havarese</a> ? <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:MOs810" title="Wikipedysta:MOs810">MOs810</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:MOs810" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:MOs810">dyskusja</a>) 15:59, 3 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MOs810|2018-10-03T13:59:00.000Z|Teukros|2018-10-03T13:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-03T13:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MOs810&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MOs810|2018-10-03T13:59:00.000Z|Teukros|2018-10-03T13:16:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Aotearoa|2018-10-03T17:27:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-10-03T12:51:00.000Z"></span>3/4 sekcji bez źródeł i napisane w stylu neencyklopedycznym ("Jego realizacja była przepięknym, jedynym w swoim rodzaju spektaklem" itp.). Podane źródło nie podaje powierzchni muralu – pewnie autor ją wyliczył mnożąc długość przez szerokość, gdy nie wiadomo czy szerokość była stała, a że jest błędna może świadczyć to, że wg Księgi rekordów Guinnessa największy mural ma 16554,8m² znajduje się w USA i został wpisany w 1997 roku. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Aotearoa" title="Wikipedysta:Aotearoa">Aotearoa</a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Aotearoa" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Aotearoa"> dyskusja</a> 19:27, 3 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Aotearoa|2018-10-03T17:27:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-10-03T12:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-03T17:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Aotearoa&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Aotearoa|2018-10-03T17:27:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-10-03T12:51:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Teukros|2018-10-03T13:16:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-10-03T12:51:00.000Z"></span>Dziwna sprawa z tym muralem: nie ma na jego temat hasła w żadnej wersji językowej (przynajmniej nic nie znajduję na wiki pod frazą <i>Proyecto Vibora</i>), a w medalowym haśle o Elx na eswiki nie jest nawet wspomniany. Może nie jest tak ważny, jak piszą? --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Teukros" title="Wikipedysta:Teukros">Teukros</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Teukros" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Teukros">dyskusja</a>) 15:16, 3 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Teukros|2018-10-03T13:16:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-10-03T12:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MOs810|2018-10-03T13:59:00.000Z|Teukros|2018-10-03T13:16:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-03T13:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Teukros&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Teukros|2018-10-03T13:16:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-10-03T12:51:00.000Z"></span><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MOs810|2018-10-03T13:59:00.000Z|Teukros|2018-10-03T13:16:00.000Z"></span>a co na to twórca @<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Havarese" title="Wikipedysta:Havarese">Havarese</a> ? <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:MOs810" title="Wikipedysta:MOs810">MOs810</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:MOs810" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:MOs810">dyskusja</a>) 15:59, 3 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MOs810|2018-10-03T13:59:00.000Z|Teukros|2018-10-03T13:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-03T13:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MOs810&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MOs810|2018-10-03T13:59:00.000Z|Teukros|2018-10-03T13:16:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Aotearoa|2018-10-03T17:27:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-10-03T12:51:00.000Z"></span>3/4 sekcji bez źródeł i napisane w stylu neencyklopedycznym ("Jego realizacja była przepięknym, jedynym w swoim rodzaju spektaklem" itp.). Podane źródło nie podaje powierzchni muralu – pewnie autor ją wyliczył mnożąc długość przez szerokość, gdy nie wiadomo czy szerokość była stała, a że jest błędna może świadczyć to, że wg Księgi rekordów Guinnessa największy mural ma 16554,8m² znajduje się w USA i został wpisany w 1997 roku. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Aotearoa" title="Wikipedysta:Aotearoa">Aotearoa</a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Aotearoa" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Aotearoa"> dyskusja</a> 19:27, 3 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Aotearoa|2018-10-03T17:27:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-10-03T12:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-03T17:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Aotearoa&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Aotearoa|2018-10-03T17:27:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-10-03T12:51:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Mozilla_a_Mozilla_Foundation" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Mozilla_a_Mozilla_Foundation|2018-10-04T17:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|GregX21|2018-10-04T17:49:00.000Z|Mozilla_a_Mozilla_Foundation&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Mozilla_a_Mozilla_Foundation|2018-10-04T17:49:00.000Z"></span>Mozilla a Mozilla Foundation<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Mozilla_a_Mozilla_Foundation|2018-10-04T17:49:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|GregX21|2018-10-04T17:49:00.000Z|Mozilla_a_Mozilla_Foundation"></span>Witam. Przejdę może od razu do meritum sprawy, gdyż nie mam pomysłu na wstęp.
 </p><p>W polskiej Wikipedii istnieje artykuł <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla" title="Mozilla">Mozilla</a>, który, szczerze mówiąc, nie mam pojęcia czego tak właściwie dotyczy (ale do tego jeszcze wrócę). W każdym razie po zajrzeniu na statystyki wyświetleń stron na Wikipedii udostępniane przez Wikimedia Foundation można dojść do wniosku, iż artykuł ten jest nad wyraz popularny, gdy porówna się go do podobnych do niego pod względem treści – <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_(projekt)" class="mw-redirect" title="Mozilla (projekt)">Mozilla (projekt)</a> i <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Application_Suite" title="Mozilla Application Suite">Mozilla Application Suite</a>. Podejrzewam, że ludzie, chcąc dostać się do artykułu o fundacji Mozilla, wpisują w wyszukiwarkę po prostu „Mozilla”, a ta przenosi ich nie do końca tam, gdzie by chcieli, zwiększając przy tym statystyki wyświetleń. Sama Mozilla Foundation nie ma w swoim logotypie słowa „Foundation”, a dodatkowo w wielu miejscach pisze o sobie po prostu „Mozilla”, więc ludzie też pod takim hasłem szukają. Moja propozycja jest więc taka, żeby przenieść artykuł, który obecnie znajduje się pod nazwą „Mozilla”, pod inną nazwę, a w ustąpione przez niego miejsce stworzyć przekierowanie do artykułu „Fundacja Mozilla”. Nie wiem niestety, pod jaką nazwę przenieść ten artykuł. Informacje w nim zawarte to taki miszmasz. Pierwszy i czwarty akapit dublują informacje zawarte w artykule „Mozilla Application Suite”, zaś drugi i trzeci – w „Mozilla (projekt)”. To samo tyczy się grafik – również dublują te znajdujące się już w ww. artykułach. Z tego powodu, zamiast zastanawiać się, pod jaką nazwę przenieść artykuł „Mozilla”, może lepiej będzie, moim zdaniem, go po prostu usunąć. Szkoda tylko tracić listy autorów.
-</p><p>Jak widać, jest to sprawa dość skomplikowana i z pewnością warta przedyskutowania, więc zdecydowałem się napisać o niej tutaj. Z góry przepraszam, jeśli wybrałem nieodpowiednią sekcję kawiarenki. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:GregX21" title="Wikipedysta:GregX21">GregX21</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:GregX21" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:GregX21">dyskusja</a>) 19:49, 4 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GregX21|2018-10-04T17:49:00.000Z|Mozilla_a_Mozilla_Foundation&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Piolodiusz|2018-10-05T15:32:00.000Z|GregX21|2018-10-04T17:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Witia|2018-10-06T12:12:00.000Z|GregX21|2018-10-04T17:49:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-04T17:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GregX21&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+</p><p>Jak widać, jest to sprawa dość skomplikowana i z pewnością warta przedyskutowania, więc zdecydowałem się napisać o niej tutaj. Z góry przepraszam, jeśli wybrałem nieodpowiednią sekcję kawiarenki. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:GregX21" title="Wikipedysta:GregX21">GregX21</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:GregX21" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:GregX21">dyskusja</a>) 19:49, 4 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GregX21|2018-10-04T17:49:00.000Z|Mozilla_a_Mozilla_Foundation&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Piolodiusz|2018-10-05T15:32:00.000Z|GregX21|2018-10-04T17:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Witia|2018-10-06T12:12:00.000Z|GregX21|2018-10-04T17:49:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-04T17:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GregX21&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Piolodiusz|2018-10-05T15:32:00.000Z|GregX21|2018-10-04T17:49:00.000Z"></span>Sądzę, że artykuł można przenieść do <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mozilla_(nazwa)&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Mozilla (nazwa) (strona nie istnieje)">Mozilla (nazwa)</a> i problem rozwiązany. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Piolodiusz" title="Wikipedysta:Piolodiusz">Piolodiusz</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Piolodiusz" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Piolodiusz">dyskusja</a>) 17:32, 5 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Piolodiusz|2018-10-05T15:32:00.000Z|GregX21|2018-10-04T17:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|GregX21|2018-10-06T07:05:00.000Z|Piolodiusz|2018-10-05T15:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-05T15:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Piolodiusz&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Piolodiusz|2018-10-05T15:32:00.000Z|GregX21|2018-10-04T17:49:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|GregX21|2018-10-06T07:05:00.000Z|Piolodiusz|2018-10-05T15:32:00.000Z"></span>Przenoszenie tego artykułu już teraz pod taką nazwę, to, moim zdaniem, rozwiązywanie problemu trochę na siłę, by zrobić to jak najszybciej. Ja zastanowiłbym się najpierw, czy nie lepiej byłoby po prostu usunąć tego artykułu, bo i tak tylko niepotrzebnie dubluje informacje, i w jego miejsce zrobić przekierowanie. Jeśli z dyskusji wyniknie, że lepiej żeby pozostał, to wtedy zastanowimy się nad nową nazwą dla niego. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:GregX21" title="Wikipedysta:GregX21">GregX21</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:GregX21" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:GregX21">dyskusja</a>) 09:05, 6 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GregX21|2018-10-06T07:05:00.000Z|Piolodiusz|2018-10-05T15:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-06T07:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GregX21&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GregX21|2018-10-06T07:05:00.000Z|Piolodiusz|2018-10-05T15:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Witia|2018-10-06T12:12:00.000Z|GregX21|2018-10-04T17:49:00.000Z"></span>Ja zasadniczo przeniósłbym obecną zawartość strony <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla" title="Mozilla">Mozilla</a> do <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_(projekt)" class="mw-redirect" title="Mozilla (projekt)">Mozilla (projekt)</a>, bo jest to pojęcie najogólniejsze i może linkować do bardziej szczegółowych zagadnień jak Mozilla Foundation czy Mozilla Suite. W takich przypadku miałoby sens wstawienie od razu na stronie <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla" title="Mozilla">Mozilla</a> linków obecnych aktualnie na stronie <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_(ujednoznacznienie)" class="mw-disambig" title="Mozilla (ujednoznacznienie)">Mozilla (ujednoznacznienie)</a>. Wtedy po wpisaniu samego "Mozilla" można byłoby wybrać poszukiwane zagadnienie. A na marginesie, swego czasu brałem dość intensywnie udział w projektach Mozilli i też miewałem problemy z relacjami między poszczególnymi elementami projektu ;) <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Witia" title="Wikipedysta:Witia">Witia</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Witia" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Witia">dyskusja</a>) 14:12, 6 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Witia|2018-10-06T12:12:00.000Z|GregX21|2018-10-04T17:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|GregX21|2018-10-06T16:18:00.000Z|Witia|2018-10-06T12:12:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-06T12:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Witia&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Witia|2018-10-06T12:12:00.000Z|GregX21|2018-10-04T17:49:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Piolodiusz|2018-10-05T15:32:00.000Z|GregX21|2018-10-04T17:49:00.000Z"></span>Sądzę, że artykuł można przenieść do <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mozilla_(nazwa)&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Mozilla (nazwa) (strona nie istnieje)">Mozilla (nazwa)</a> i problem rozwiązany. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Piolodiusz" title="Wikipedysta:Piolodiusz">Piolodiusz</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Piolodiusz" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Piolodiusz">dyskusja</a>) 17:32, 5 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Piolodiusz|2018-10-05T15:32:00.000Z|GregX21|2018-10-04T17:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|GregX21|2018-10-06T07:05:00.000Z|Piolodiusz|2018-10-05T15:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-05T15:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Piolodiusz&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Piolodiusz|2018-10-05T15:32:00.000Z|GregX21|2018-10-04T17:49:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|GregX21|2018-10-06T07:05:00.000Z|Piolodiusz|2018-10-05T15:32:00.000Z"></span>Przenoszenie tego artykułu już teraz pod taką nazwę, to, moim zdaniem, rozwiązywanie problemu trochę na siłę, by zrobić to jak najszybciej. Ja zastanowiłbym się najpierw, czy nie lepiej byłoby po prostu usunąć tego artykułu, bo i tak tylko niepotrzebnie dubluje informacje, i w jego miejsce zrobić przekierowanie. Jeśli z dyskusji wyniknie, że lepiej żeby pozostał, to wtedy zastanowimy się nad nową nazwą dla niego. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:GregX21" title="Wikipedysta:GregX21">GregX21</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:GregX21" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:GregX21">dyskusja</a>) 09:05, 6 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GregX21|2018-10-06T07:05:00.000Z|Piolodiusz|2018-10-05T15:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-06T07:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GregX21&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GregX21|2018-10-06T07:05:00.000Z|Piolodiusz|2018-10-05T15:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Witia|2018-10-06T12:12:00.000Z|GregX21|2018-10-04T17:49:00.000Z"></span>Ja zasadniczo przeniósłbym obecną zawartość strony <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla" title="Mozilla">Mozilla</a> do <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_(projekt)" class="mw-redirect" title="Mozilla (projekt)">Mozilla (projekt)</a>, bo jest to pojęcie najogólniejsze i może linkować do bardziej szczegółowych zagadnień jak Mozilla Foundation czy Mozilla Suite. W takich przypadku miałoby sens wstawienie od razu na stronie <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla" title="Mozilla">Mozilla</a> linków obecnych aktualnie na stronie <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_(ujednoznacznienie)" class="mw-disambig" title="Mozilla (ujednoznacznienie)">Mozilla (ujednoznacznienie)</a>. Wtedy po wpisaniu samego "Mozilla" można byłoby wybrać poszukiwane zagadnienie. A na marginesie, swego czasu brałem dość intensywnie udział w projektach Mozilli i też miewałem problemy z relacjami między poszczególnymi elementami projektu ;) <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Witia" title="Wikipedysta:Witia">Witia</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Witia" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Witia">dyskusja</a>) 14:12, 6 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Witia|2018-10-06T12:12:00.000Z|GregX21|2018-10-04T17:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|GregX21|2018-10-06T16:18:00.000Z|Witia|2018-10-06T12:12:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-06T12:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Witia&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Witia|2018-10-06T12:12:00.000Z|GregX21|2018-10-04T17:49:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
 <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|GregX21|2018-10-06T16:18:00.000Z|Witia|2018-10-06T12:12:00.000Z"></span>Po przeczytaniu Twojej wypowiedzi, ponownie zajrzałem do omawianego tutaj artykułu, kolejny raz przeczytałem zawarty w nim tekst i... w sumie masz rację. Wybrane fragmenty tego tekstu mogłyby z powodzeniem uzupełnić treść artykułu „Mozilla (projekt)”, ale nie wszystkie, bo chyba nie ma co pisać w tym artykule, że Mozilla Suite nie jest już rozwijany, a jego następca to SeaMonkey. Natomiast co do propozycji uczynienia z artykułu „Mozilla” strony ujednoznaczniającej, to pozostałbym jednak przy swoim pomyśle. Niby pomysł nie jest głupi, ale wydaje mi się, że jeśli ktoś wpisuje w wyszukiwarkę słowo „Mozilla”, to na co najmniej 80% chodzi mu o Mozilla Foundation. Przeciętny Kowalski nie będzie raczej zainteresowany artykułami tak egzotycznymi, jak np. Księga Mozilli, a ci, których to interesuje i tak będą wiedzieli, pod jakim hasłem tego szukać. Wstawienie ujednoznacznienia do artykułu „Mozilla” miałoby większy sens, gdyby wszystkie hasła w nim zawarte cieszyły się podobnym zainteresowaniem, a tak przecież nie jest. Nie mówię jednak ostatniego słowa i może faktycznie Twój pomysł jest lepszy.</dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd>PS To teraz ja jestem takim jakby odpowiednikiem Ciebie, bo ogromnie interesują mnie tematy związane z Firefoksem. Aż przykro mi jest patrzeć na to, jak zmniejsza się liczba użytkowników różnych przeglądarek (m.in. Firefoksa) na rzecz Chrome'a, który nie posiada przecież żadnych wyróżniających się funkcjonalności. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:GregX21" title="Wikipedysta:GregX21">GregX21</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:GregX21" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:GregX21">dyskusja</a>) 18:18, 6 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GregX21|2018-10-06T16:18:00.000Z|Witia|2018-10-06T12:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-06T16:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GregX21&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GregX21|2018-10-06T16:18:00.000Z|Witia|2018-10-06T12:12:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd>PS To teraz ja jestem takim jakby odpowiednikiem Ciebie, bo ogromnie interesują mnie tematy związane z Firefoksem. Aż przykro mi jest patrzeć na to, jak zmniejsza się liczba użytkowników różnych przeglądarek (m.in. Firefoksa) na rzecz Chrome'a, który nie posiada przecież żadnych wyróżniających się funkcjonalności. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:GregX21" title="Wikipedysta:GregX21">GregX21</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:GregX21" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:GregX21">dyskusja</a>) 18:18, 6 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|GregX21|2018-10-06T16:18:00.000Z|Witia|2018-10-06T12:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-06T16:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;GregX21&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|GregX21|2018-10-06T16:18:00.000Z|Witia|2018-10-06T12:12:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id="Autoencyklopedyczno.C5.9B.C4.87_ko.C5.9Bcio.C5.82.C3.B3w_-_propozycja_g.C5.82osowania"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Autoencyklopedyczność_kościołów_-_propozycja_głosowania" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Autoencyklopedyczno\u015b\u0107_ko\u015bcio\u0142\u00f3w_-_propozycja_g\u0142osowania|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z|Autoencyklopedyczno\u015b\u0107_ko\u015bcio\u0142\u00f3w_-_propozycja_g\u0142osowania&quot;,&quot;c|Cz ja|2018-08-13T22:43:00.000Z|Autoencyklopedyczno\u015b\u0107_ko\u015bcio\u0142\u00f3w_-_propozycja_g\u0142osowania&quot;,&quot;c|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-08-31T15:59:00.000Z|Autoencyklopedyczno\u015b\u0107_ko\u015bcio\u0142\u00f3w_-_propozycja_g\u0142osowania&quot;,&quot;c|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-09-09T15:15:00.000Z|Autoencyklopedyczno\u015b\u0107_ko\u015bcio\u0142\u00f3w_-_propozycja_g\u0142osowania&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Autoencyklopedyczność_kościołów_-_propozycja_głosowania|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span>Autoencyklopedyczność kościołów - propozycja głosowania<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Autoencyklopedyczność_kościołów_-_propozycja_głosowania|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z|Autoencyklopedyczność_kościołów_-_propozycja_głosowania"></span>W związku z ostatnimi dyskusjami w kilku DNU, w tym zwłaszcza w <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Poczekalnia/artyku%C5%82y/2018:07:26:Ko%C5%9Bci%C3%B3%C5%82_%C5%9Bw._Jana_Kantego_w_Krakowie" title="Wikipedia:Poczekalnia/artykuły/2018:07:26:Kościół św. Jana Kantego w Krakowie">Kościół św. Jana Kantego w Krakowie</a>, proponuję (za radą @<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Adamt" title="Wikipedysta:Adamt">Adamt</a>) głosowanie nt. autoencyklopedyczności kościołów/cerkwi/synagog niezależnie od ich statusu zabytkowego, formy architektonicznej, czy daty powstania. Argumentacja jest w skrócie taka, że wiele lat pracy dziesiątek Wikipedystów może iść do pieca (w tym Wikigranty Stowarzyszenia, kościoły z TT, czy np. ostatni MiniWikiProjekt <i>Kościoły Poznania</i>), ponieważ przez ponad dziesięć lat tworzyliśmy hasła o kościołach przy zerowym sprzeciwie i pełnej aprobacie społeczności - nikt się nie sprzeciwiał, kościoły lądowały w Czywieszu i wszystko było OK. Teraz jednemu z Wikipedystów przypomniało się, że kościoły jednak nie są autoency i ogromne dziedzictwo może zostać wyrzucone. Wszystko byłoby OK, gdyby komuś przypomniało się to 10 lat temu - wtedy nie byłoby zbędnej roboty. W mojej opinii wyrzucanie po latach pracy stworzonego zasobu byłoby przejawem lekceważenia, braku szacunku i arogancji w stosunku do wielu z nas, swoistym przejawem zmiany zasad w trakcie gry. Rozumiem, że nie było dotąd autoencyklopedyczności, ale nie było też dotąd żadnych sprzeciwów, a nawet aprobata społeczności (Czywiesz, TT, granty, itp.). Wielu z nas rozumiało to, jako przychylność społeczności dla tworzenia haseł o kościołach i gwarant nienaruszalności dziedzictwa. Prawdopodobnie pomyliliśmy się srogo i nasza wieloletnia praca jest zagrożona. Nie mam nic przeciwko nieencyklopedyczności jakichś obiektów, ale w tym wypadku wygląda to tak, że przez ponad 10 lat była aprobata i nie było sprzeciwów, więc <i>naiwniacy</i> tworzyli hasła, marnotrawili setki godzin życia, a teraz, gdy już mamy wspaniały zasób, to się tych <i>naiwniaków</i> wali pałą w łeb, a zasób spłukuje. Bardzo nieelegancko, bardzo nieprofesjonalnie, bardzo nieprzyszłościowo w stosunku do edytorów. Proszę o pomoc w technicznym zorganizowaniu głosowania. Pzdr. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:MOs810" title="Wikipedysta:MOs810">MOs810</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:MOs810" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:MOs810">dyskusja</a>) 12:14, 29 lip 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z|Autoencyklopedyczno\u015b\u0107_ko\u015bcio\u0142\u00f3w_-_propozycja_g\u0142osowania&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gdarin|2018-07-29T10:31:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Teukros|2018-07-29T10:34:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Kenraiz|2018-07-29T11:27:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Adamt|2018-07-29T11:52:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Anagram16|2018-07-29T12:12:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Hoa binh|2018-07-29T13:37:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Zetpe0202|2018-07-30T17:54:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|John Belushi|2018-07-30T19:08:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Gruzin|2018-07-30T19:30:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|KamilK7|2018-08-06T14:08:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MOs810&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z|Autoencyklopedyczność_kościołów_-_propozycja_głosowania"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z|Autoencyklopedyczność_kościołów_-_propozycja_głosowania"></span>W związku z ostatnimi dyskusjami w kilku DNU, w tym zwłaszcza w <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Poczekalnia/artyku%C5%82y/2018:07:26:Ko%C5%9Bci%C3%B3%C5%82_%C5%9Bw._Jana_Kantego_w_Krakowie" title="Wikipedia:Poczekalnia/artykuły/2018:07:26:Kościół św. Jana Kantego w Krakowie">Kościół św. Jana Kantego w Krakowie</a>, proponuję (za radą @<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Adamt" title="Wikipedysta:Adamt">Adamt</a>) głosowanie nt. autoencyklopedyczności kościołów/cerkwi/synagog niezależnie od ich statusu zabytkowego, formy architektonicznej, czy daty powstania. Argumentacja jest w skrócie taka, że wiele lat pracy dziesiątek Wikipedystów może iść do pieca (w tym Wikigranty Stowarzyszenia, kościoły z TT, czy np. ostatni MiniWikiProjekt <i>Kościoły Poznania</i>), ponieważ przez ponad dziesięć lat tworzyliśmy hasła o kościołach przy zerowym sprzeciwie i pełnej aprobacie społeczności - nikt się nie sprzeciwiał, kościoły lądowały w Czywieszu i wszystko było OK. Teraz jednemu z Wikipedystów przypomniało się, że kościoły jednak nie są autoency i ogromne dziedzictwo może zostać wyrzucone. Wszystko byłoby OK, gdyby komuś przypomniało się to 10 lat temu - wtedy nie byłoby zbędnej roboty. W mojej opinii wyrzucanie po latach pracy stworzonego zasobu byłoby przejawem lekceważenia, braku szacunku i arogancji w stosunku do wielu z nas, swoistym przejawem zmiany zasad w trakcie gry. Rozumiem, że nie było dotąd autoencyklopedyczności, ale nie było też dotąd żadnych sprzeciwów, a nawet aprobata społeczności (Czywiesz, TT, granty, itp.). Wielu z nas rozumiało to, jako przychylność społeczności dla tworzenia haseł o kościołach i gwarant nienaruszalności dziedzictwa. Prawdopodobnie pomyliliśmy się srogo i nasza wieloletnia praca jest zagrożona. Nie mam nic przeciwko nieencyklopedyczności jakichś obiektów, ale w tym wypadku wygląda to tak, że przez ponad 10 lat była aprobata i nie było sprzeciwów, więc <i>naiwniacy</i> tworzyli hasła, marnotrawili setki godzin życia, a teraz, gdy już mamy wspaniały zasób, to się tych <i>naiwniaków</i> wali pałą w łeb, a zasób spłukuje. Bardzo nieelegancko, bardzo nieprofesjonalnie, bardzo nieprzyszłościowo w stosunku do edytorów. Proszę o pomoc w technicznym zorganizowaniu głosowania. Pzdr. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:MOs810" title="Wikipedysta:MOs810">MOs810</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:MOs810" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:MOs810">dyskusja</a>) 12:14, 29 lip 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z|Autoencyklopedyczno\u015b\u0107_ko\u015bcio\u0142\u00f3w_-_propozycja_g\u0142osowania&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gdarin|2018-07-29T10:31:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Teukros|2018-07-29T10:34:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Kenraiz|2018-07-29T11:27:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Adamt|2018-07-29T11:52:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Anagram16|2018-07-29T12:12:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Hoa binh|2018-07-29T13:37:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Zetpe0202|2018-07-30T17:54:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|John Belushi|2018-07-30T19:08:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Gruzin|2018-07-30T19:30:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|KamilK7|2018-08-06T14:08:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MOs810&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z|Autoencyklopedyczność_kościołów_-_propozycja_głosowania"></span>
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-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gdarin|2018-07-29T10:31:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span>Nie widzę potrzeby głosowania: w przytoczonej dyskusji jedynie @<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Teukros" title="Wikipedysta:Teukros">Teukros</a> opowiadał się za usunięciem. Nie sądzę więc, by kościołom na Wikipedii groziło jakieś realne niebezpieczeństwo. :) <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Gdarin" title="Wikipedysta:Gdarin"><font color="blue"><b>Gdarin</b></font></a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Gdarin" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Gdarin"><font color="blue"><small>dyskusja</small></font></a> 12:31, 29 lip 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gdarin|2018-07-29T10:31:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-29T10:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gdarin&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gdarin|2018-07-29T10:31:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Teukros|2018-07-29T10:34:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span>Jak w dyskusjach powiedziałem - nie widzę żadnych powodów, aby obiekty sakralne uznawać za autoencyklopedyczne. Owszem, wiele takich obiektów lądowało (i ląduje) w Czywieszu, ale trzeba zawrócić uwagę, że są one encyklopedyczne także z innych powodów (głównie zabytkowych). Można także zauważyć, że przez ostatnie 10 lat obiekty sakralne były zgłaszane do usunięcia w Poczekalni, i aż do ostatnich dni nie było to uważane za coś niezwykłego. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Teukros" title="Wikipedysta:Teukros">Teukros</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Teukros" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Teukros">dyskusja</a>) 12:34, 29 lip 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Teukros|2018-07-29T10:34:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-29T10:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Teukros&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Teukros|2018-07-29T10:34:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Kenraiz|2018-07-29T11:27:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span>Byłoby dobrze zaproponować jakąś dolną granicę autoency dla obiektów sakralnych i z uwzględnieniem różnych religii. Pamiętam, że po dyskusjach poleciały sale królestwa, a byłoby niefajnie gdyby miejsca kultu były autoency lub z reguły nieencyklopedyczne tylko z racji religii. Przydałoby się postawić gdzieś granicę między kościołami (niechby autoency) a kaplicami i kapliczkami (tylko na ogólnych zasadach – zabytkowe, istotne ze względów historycznych etc.). <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Kenraiz" title="Wikipedysta:Kenraiz">Kenraiz</a> <small>(<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Kenraiz" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Kenraiz">dyskusja</a>)</small> 13:27, 29 lip 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Kenraiz|2018-07-29T11:27:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gruzin|2018-07-29T11:34:00.000Z|Kenraiz|2018-07-29T11:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-29T11:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Kenraiz&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Kenraiz|2018-07-29T11:27:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
-<dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gruzin|2018-07-29T11:34:00.000Z|Kenraiz|2018-07-29T11:27:00.000Z"></span>Dla mnie sprawa jasna. Zabytek - autoency, nad innymi obiektami możemy dyskutować czy zostają czy nie. Obok mnie jest kościół zielonoświątkowców... w domku jednorodzinnym, z całym szacunkiem ale ency to on nie jest. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Gruzin" title="Wikipedysta:Gruzin">Gruzin</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Gruzin" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Gruzin">dyskusja</a>) 13:34, 29 lip 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gruzin|2018-07-29T11:34:00.000Z|Kenraiz|2018-07-29T11:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Anagram16|2018-07-29T12:55:00.000Z|Gruzin|2018-07-29T11:34:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-29T11:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gruzin&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gruzin|2018-07-29T11:34:00.000Z|Kenraiz|2018-07-29T11:27:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
-<dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Anagram16|2018-07-29T12:55:00.000Z|Gruzin|2018-07-29T11:34:00.000Z"></span>A ilu zielonoświątkowców w ogóle jest w Polsce? Grupy wyznaniowe mają takie domy modlitwy, jakich potrzebują. Dla mnie wyznacznikiem encyklopedyczności byłaby odległość, z jakiej ludzie przyjeżdżają do tego miejsca. Katolik, jeśli ma do kościoła więcej niż pięć minut drogi, zaczyna narzekać i pisze petycje do biskupa o utworzenie nowej parafii, a ewangelicy czasem dojeżdżają po sto kilometrów, bo tak rzadko są rozsiane świątynie ich Kościoła. A gdyby do twoich sąsiadów przyjeżdżał zwierzchnik ich wyznania (nie wiem jak się u nich nazywa)? (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Anagram16" title="Wikipedysta:Anagram16">Anagram16</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Anagram16" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Anagram16">dyskusja</a>) 14:55, 29 lip 2018 (CEST))<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Anagram16|2018-07-29T12:55:00.000Z|Gruzin|2018-07-29T11:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-29T12:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Anagram16&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Anagram16|2018-07-29T12:55:00.000Z|Gruzin|2018-07-29T11:34:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Adamt|2018-07-29T11:52:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span>Budynki sakralne jako trwały element architektury były i nadal powinny być encyklopedyczne z racji pełnienia swoich funkcji społecznych, bardzo często będący głównym takim ośrodkiem w regionie. Wybudowane budynki sakralne są najbardziej trwałymi budowlami architektonicznymi, w przeciwieństwie do budynków mieszkalnych czy handlowych. NIe wrzucałbym do tego worka budynków zaadaptowanych do pełnienia funkcji sakralnych jak wspomniana wyżej willa, czy przeróżnych kaplic nie będących zabytkami. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Adamt" title="Wikipedysta:Adamt">Adamt</a> <small><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Adamt" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Adamt">rzeknij słowo</a></small> 13:52, 29 lip 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Adamt|2018-07-29T11:52:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-29T11:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Adamt&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Adamt|2018-07-29T11:52:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Anagram16|2018-07-29T12:12:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span>Nie uważam za encyklopedyczne/autoencyklopedyczne wszystkich obiektów sakralnych, kaplic cmentarnych i tymczasowych, szpitalnych i szkolnych, przydrożnych kapliczek i krzyży na rozstaju dróg albo w miejscu wypadku z ofiarami śmiertelnymi, domów rekolekcyjnych i prywatnych mieszkań, w których za czasów PRL-u odbywała się w ukryciu nauka religii, ale kościoły wydają mi się godne posiadania osobnych artykułów w Wikipedii. (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Anagram16" title="Wikipedysta:Anagram16">Anagram16</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Anagram16" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Anagram16">dyskusja</a>) 14:12, 29 lip 2018 (CEST))<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Anagram16|2018-07-29T12:12:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-29T12:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Anagram16&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Anagram16|2018-07-29T12:12:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Hoa binh|2018-07-29T13:37:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span>Sprawa jest prosta: zabytki i stare budynki są ency. Nowsze są ency, jeśli się wyróżniają architektonicznie, zostały zaprojektowane przez kogoś znanego, są dominantą architektoniczną okolicy, ich historia powstania jest jakoś wyróżniająca się, itp. - niestety, w większości czysto uznaniowo. No bo przecież jakiś kościół (zazwyczaj koszmarny architektonicznie), wzniesiony na jakimś nowym osiedlu w roku 2006 encyklopedyczny na pewno nie będzie. I mówimy o wolnostojących budynkach o przeznaczeniu sakralnym. Jakaś lefebrystyczna czy bożochrystusowa kaplica/sala spotkań urządzona w mieszkaniu na 3 piętrze kamienicy to zupełnie inna bajka jest i nie róbmy tutaj porównań. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Hoa_binh" title="Wikipedysta:Hoa binh">Hoa binh</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Hoa_binh" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Hoa binh">dyskusja</a>) 15:37, 29 lip 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Hoa binh|2018-07-29T13:37:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Anagram16|2018-07-29T13:45:00.000Z|Hoa binh|2018-07-29T13:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Gruzin|2018-07-29T16:11:00.000Z|Hoa binh|2018-07-29T13:37:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-29T13:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Hoa binh&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Hoa binh|2018-07-29T13:37:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
-<dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Anagram16|2018-07-29T13:45:00.000Z|Hoa binh|2018-07-29T13:37:00.000Z"></span>Dla jednych koszmarny, dla innych (zwłaszcza samych projektantów) wybitne osiągnięcie myśli architektonicznej. Niektórym inżynierom architektom nie mieści się w głowie, że mogliby narysować budynek o czterech ścianach i dwuspadowym dachu. Ale tu się zgodzę, że można by poczekać, aż miedziana blacha pokryje się choć trochę patyną. (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Anagram16" title="Wikipedysta:Anagram16">Anagram16</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Anagram16" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Anagram16">dyskusja</a>) 15:45, 29 lip 2018 (CEST))<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Anagram16|2018-07-29T13:45:00.000Z|Hoa binh|2018-07-29T13:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-29T13:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Anagram16&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Anagram16|2018-07-29T13:45:00.000Z|Hoa binh|2018-07-29T13:37:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gruzin|2018-07-29T16:11:00.000Z|Hoa binh|2018-07-29T13:37:00.000Z"></span>Reasumując - zabytki, plus obiekty z innych powodów (wymienionych wyżej) zostają, reszta do dyskusji <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Gruzin" title="Wikipedysta:Gruzin">Gruzin</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Gruzin" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Gruzin">dyskusja</a>) 18:11, 29 lip 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gruzin|2018-07-29T16:11:00.000Z|Hoa binh|2018-07-29T13:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-29T16:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gruzin&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gruzin|2018-07-29T16:11:00.000Z|Hoa binh|2018-07-29T13:37:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl>
-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Zetpe0202|2018-07-30T17:54:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span>Tylko pytania: <b>KTO</b> będzie decydował czy budynek jest encyklopedyczny czy też nie ? Jakiś znafca architektury, artysta ? Jakie będą kryteria <b>ŁADNOŚĆI</b> budowli, czyim gustem będziemy się kierować, co to jest budynek wyróżniający się architektonicznie (KTO decyduje o tym, że można go określić słowem <i>wyróżniający</i>) ? Czy też będzie to zasada <i>bo mię sie nie podoba i już</i>? Może wprowadzić kategorie: budowla ładna, budowla brzydka. Może obok administratora wprowadzić funkcję <i>Wikiarbiter elegantiarum do spraw architektury</i> albo <i>naczelny Wikiesteta</i> ?<br/>Jakoś nikomu z was nie przeszkadzają w encyklopedii chociażby postaci (postacie ?) z seriali dla kucharek, trzecorzędni sportowcy czwartorzędnych klubów z San Escobar. Tak, uważam że powinni być bo może kogoś interesują. Dodajcie do nazwy Wikipedia wolna encyklopedia <i>tylko dla kucharek</i> (kucharki wybaczcie) i ograniczcie jej treść. Chciałem żeby było dowcipnie, ale gdy przeczytałem co napisałem to ogarnęła mnie zgroza. O czym wy dyskutujecie ?! Tak ma według was wyglądać ENCYKLOPEDIA ? A sprawa wcale nie jest prosta. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Zetpe0202" title="Wikipedysta:Zetpe0202">Zetpe0202</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Zetpe0202" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Zetpe0202">dyskusja</a>) 19:54, 30 lip 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Zetpe0202|2018-07-30T17:54:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gruzin|2018-07-30T18:47:00.000Z|Zetpe0202|2018-07-30T17:54:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-30T17:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Zetpe0202&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Zetpe0202|2018-07-30T17:54:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
-<dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gruzin|2018-07-30T18:47:00.000Z|Zetpe0202|2018-07-30T17:54:00.000Z"></span>Właśnie przeszkadzają, ale opór zbyt wielki by zaostrzyć ;). W pewnych tematach autoency jest zbyt rozluźnione. W innych zbyt rygorystyczne. Jak wyżej pisałem jeśli budynek jest zabytkiem już jest ency, inne kryteria do omówienia <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Gruzin" title="Wikipedysta:Gruzin">Gruzin</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Gruzin" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Gruzin">dyskusja</a>) 20:47, 30 lip 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gruzin|2018-07-30T18:47:00.000Z|Zetpe0202|2018-07-30T17:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-30T18:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gruzin&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gruzin|2018-07-30T18:47:00.000Z|Zetpe0202|2018-07-30T17:54:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl>
-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|John Belushi|2018-07-30T19:08:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span>były dyskusje na ten temat i to nie jedna. chodziło o encyklopedyczność parafii/zborów/gmin - niestety brakowało chętnych do doprowadzenia dyskusji do końca i dyskusje kończyły się brakiem ustaleń. a temat ten bezpośrednio łączy się z tematem obiektów sakralnych z których te parafie/zbory korzystają. obiekty sakralne same w sobie autoencyklopedyczne nie są - nie wiem skąd taki wniosek że nowo wybudowany kościół/bożnica/sala_zebrań jest autoencyklopedyczna. generalnie zgadzam się z Hoa, można dodatkowo przyjąć granicę że budowla spełniająca cel religijny od np. 30/50 lat nabywa encyklopedyczności o ile jest to obiekt wolnostojący - należy jednak pamiętać że nie wszystkie wspólnoty mogły cokolwiek budować przed rokiem 1989, a reszta była ograniczana z góry więc można uznać czas istnienia parafii/zboru/grupy_religijnej. za autoency uznał bym krajowe centra wspólnot o ile same wspólnoty są encyklopedyczne i są to obiekty o przeznaczeniu wyłącznie religijnym. temat wart kompleksowego uregulowania. - <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:John_Belushi" title="Wikipedysta:John Belushi">John Belushi</a> -- <small><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:John_Belushi" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:John Belushi">komentarz</a></small> 21:08, 30 lip 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|John Belushi|2018-07-30T19:08:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-30T19:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;John Belushi&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|John Belushi|2018-07-30T19:08:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gruzin|2018-07-30T19:30:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span>Sądzę, że autoency parafii/zborów/gmin powinna być. Natomiast samych budowli.... Zgadzam się z John'ym - czas na regulację tego tematu, choć tematyka trochę dla mnie poboczna ;) Jednak lubię jasność kryteriów. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Gruzin" title="Wikipedysta:Gruzin">Gruzin</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Gruzin" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Gruzin">dyskusja</a>) 21:30, 30 lip 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gruzin|2018-07-30T19:30:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-30T19:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gruzin&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gruzin|2018-07-30T19:30:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span>Żeby nie forsować nadmiernej uznaniowości, która owocuje konfliktami, proponuję autoencyklopedyczność kościołów parafialnych i filialnych, natomiast w przypadku kaplic/kapliczek/obiektów adaptowanych autoencyklopedyczność zabytkowych oraz posiadających duże znaczenie historyczne, biograficzne, czy zaprojektowanych przez uznanych artystów. Pzdr. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:MOs810" title="Wikipedysta:MOs810">MOs810</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:MOs810" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:MOs810">dyskusja</a>) 10:26, 31 lip 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|John Belushi|2018-07-31T08:36:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Gruzin|2018-07-31T14:56:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Teukros|2018-07-31T15:21:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Malarz pl|2018-07-31T16:44:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Adamt|2018-07-31T22:05:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MOs810&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
-<dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|John Belushi|2018-07-31T08:36:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z"></span>autoency są kościoły zabytkowe, a co do reszty jak widać po dyskusji obecnie obowiązują ogólne zasady encyklopedyczności. można wypracować dodatkowe zasady, ale takie które będą dotyczyły obiektów sakralnych wszystkich wspólnot religijnych. - <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:John_Belushi" title="Wikipedysta:John Belushi">John Belushi</a> -- <small><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:John_Belushi" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:John Belushi">komentarz</a></small> 10:36, 31 lip 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|John Belushi|2018-07-31T08:36:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-31T08:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;John Belushi&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|John Belushi|2018-07-31T08:36:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gruzin|2018-07-31T14:56:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z"></span>Pełna zgoda <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Gruzin" title="Wikipedysta:Gruzin">Gruzin</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Gruzin" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Gruzin">dyskusja</a>) 16:56, 31 lip 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gruzin|2018-07-31T14:56:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-31T14:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gruzin&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gruzin|2018-07-31T14:56:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Teukros|2018-07-31T15:21:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z"></span>Jak John Belushi. Myślę, że to co wyżej zaproponował Hoa binh mogłoby być dobrym punktem wyjścia do dalszych deliberacji. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Teukros" title="Wikipedysta:Teukros">Teukros</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Teukros" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Teukros">dyskusja</a>) 17:21, 31 lip 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Teukros|2018-07-31T15:21:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-31T15:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Teukros&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Teukros|2018-07-31T15:21:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Malarz pl|2018-07-31T16:44:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z"></span>Podobnie jak większość uważam obecny uzus za wystarczający. Zabytki i budynki sakralne z historią są encyklopedyczne, cała reszta na ogólnych zasadach (znaczenie/zauważalność). Czyli uznaniowość i brak automatyzmu. Jestem ostatnio coraz bardziej przeciw wszystkim "łatwym" autoency, które powodują powstawanie praktycznie pustych artykułów (infoboks + kilka zdań + dwa przypisy), z których nic nie wynika i nie wiadomo dlaczego są encyklopedyczne (poza zapisem autoency). Nic z nimi zrobic nie można, nikt nie chce ich rozbudowywać, ale też nie ma zgody na ich usunięcie bo są ency. Obecny stan w budowlach sakralnych powoduje w przypadku takich artykułów albo ich poprawę uzasadniającą encyklopedyczność albo usunięcie. ~<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Malarz_pl" title="Wikipedysta:Malarz pl"><span style="color:blue; font-weight:bold;">malarz pl</span></a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Malarz_pl" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Malarz pl"><sup><span style="color:red; font-style:italic;">PISZ</span></sup></a> 18:44, 31 lip 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Malarz pl|2018-07-31T16:44:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Zala|2018-07-31T17:50:00.000Z|Malarz pl|2018-07-31T16:44:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-31T16:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Malarz pl&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Malarz pl|2018-07-31T16:44:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z"></span>
-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Zala|2018-07-31T17:50:00.000Z|Malarz pl|2018-07-31T16:44:00.000Z"></span>Popieram zdanie Kolegi – tu naprawdę sztywna regulacja nie jest potrzebna... <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Zala" title="Wikipedysta:Zala">Zala</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Zala" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Zala">dyskusja</a>) 19:50, 31 lip 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Zala|2018-07-31T17:50:00.000Z|Malarz pl|2018-07-31T16:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-31T17:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Zala&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Zala|2018-07-31T17:50:00.000Z|Malarz pl|2018-07-31T16:44:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Adamt|2018-07-31T22:05:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z"></span>Popieram propozycję i podtrzymania dotychczasowej tendencji uznania encyklopedyczności wszystkich kościołów parafialnych i filialnych róznych wyznań (o czym świadczy powstawanie takich artykułów bez sprzeciwu z poparciem różnych projektów). Pozostałe obiekty sakralne tylko w przypadku ich wyjątkowości. Nie możemy lekką ręką usunąc kolejnych kilkadziesiąt artykułów bo ktos się nagle obudził. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Adamt" title="Wikipedysta:Adamt">Adamt</a> <small><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Adamt" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Adamt">rzeknij słowo</a></small> 00:05, 1 sie 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Adamt|2018-07-31T22:05:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|John Belushi|2018-08-01T18:20:00.000Z|Adamt|2018-07-31T22:05:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-31T22:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Adamt&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Adamt|2018-07-31T22:05:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
-<dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|John Belushi|2018-08-01T18:20:00.000Z|Adamt|2018-07-31T22:05:00.000Z"></span>raczej ten problem był wielokrotnie dyskutowany albo w kawiarence albo na DNU. moim zdaniem takie artykuły jak <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parafia_%C5%9Bw._Miko%C5%82aja_w_Wielkim_%C5%81%C4%99cku" title="Parafia św. Mikołaja w Wielkim Łęcku">ten dzisiejszy</a> powinny od ręki wracać do brudnopisu autora. głównym autorem setek albo i tysięcy takich stubów o parafiach/zborach/kościołach różnych wyznań jest @<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Macuk" title="Wikipedysta:Macuk">Macuk</a> który chyba nigdy nie raczył wziąć udziału w dyskusji na ten temat. jeśli mamy tworzyć encyklopedię to nie możemy stawiać na ilość. niedawna dyskusja w tej sprawie <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Poczekalnia/artyku%C5%82y/2018:07:10:Parafia_%C5%9Bw._Klemensa_Dworzaka_w_G%C5%82ogowie" title="Wikipedia:Poczekalnia/artykuły/2018:07:10:Parafia św. Klemensa Dworzaka w Głogowie">Wikipedia:Poczekalnia/artykuły/2018:07:10:Parafia św. Klemensa Dworzaka w Głogowie</a> - <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:John_Belushi" title="Wikipedysta:John Belushi">John Belushi</a> -- <small><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:John_Belushi" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:John Belushi">komentarz</a></small> 20:20, 1 sie 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|John Belushi|2018-08-01T18:20:00.000Z|Adamt|2018-07-31T22:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-08-01T18:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;John Belushi&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|John Belushi|2018-08-01T18:20:00.000Z|Adamt|2018-07-31T22:05:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|KamilK7|2018-08-06T14:08:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span>Mamy zasady i zalecenia, z których jednoznacznie wynika, że jeśli coś jest encyklopedyczne, to istnieje wiele źródeł niezależnych od opisywanego tematu, które są mu poświęcone. I o ile dobrze opracowane kryteria autoency pozwalają uniknąć zbędnych dyskusji i jestem generalnie ich zwolennikiem, to punktem wyjścia przy ich tworzeniu powinno być to, co napisałem w pierwszym zdaniu. Kościoły zabytkowe na pewno są opisane w niezależnych źródłach. Także kościoły, które nie są jeszcze uznawane za zabytkowe, ale odznaczają się unikatową architekturą/wielkością etc. również są wspominane w pracach naukowych (i to nie szkodzi, że któryś tam jest określany w pejoratywny sposób - brzydkie kaczątka także opisujemy). Jestem jednak przeciwny autoency tylko dla tego, że jakiś budynek został przeznaczony, albo nawet był dedykowany, do pełnienia roli kościoła. I nie mieszajmy tutaj encyklopedyczności budynków, którym przyznano zacną rolę pełnienia kościoła, z ewentualną encyklopedycznością parafii/zborów, czy czegokolwiek innego - to osobne tematy. I nie, nie zgodzę się ze zdaniem, że to "zmiana zasad gry w trakcie gry" - zasady gry były takie same od kiedy ustalono teksty WP:WER i WP:ENCY, co najwyżej w niektórych wypadkach owe zasady nie były egzekwowane (np. ze strachu, że ktoś zapyta o WP:ENCY, a w odpowiedzi zamiast merytorycznej dyskusji go nazwą ateistą). <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:KamilK7" title="Wikipedysta:KamilK7">KamilK7</a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:KamilK7" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:KamilK7">✉</a> 16:08, 6 sie 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|KamilK7|2018-08-06T14:08:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-08-06T14:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;KamilK7&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|KamilK7|2018-08-06T14:08:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gdarin|2018-07-29T10:31:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span>Nie widzę potrzeby głosowania: w przytoczonej dyskusji jedynie @<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Teukros" title="Wikipedysta:Teukros">Teukros</a> opowiadał się za usunięciem. Nie sądzę więc, by kościołom na Wikipedii groziło jakieś realne niebezpieczeństwo. :) <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Gdarin" title="Wikipedysta:Gdarin"><font color="blue"><b>Gdarin</b></font></a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Gdarin" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Gdarin"><font color="blue"><small>dyskusja</small></font></a> 12:31, 29 lip 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gdarin|2018-07-29T10:31:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-29T10:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gdarin&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gdarin|2018-07-29T10:31:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Teukros|2018-07-29T10:34:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span>Jak w dyskusjach powiedziałem - nie widzę żadnych powodów, aby obiekty sakralne uznawać za autoencyklopedyczne. Owszem, wiele takich obiektów lądowało (i ląduje) w Czywieszu, ale trzeba zawrócić uwagę, że są one encyklopedyczne także z innych powodów (głównie zabytkowych). Można także zauważyć, że przez ostatnie 10 lat obiekty sakralne były zgłaszane do usunięcia w Poczekalni, i aż do ostatnich dni nie było to uważane za coś niezwykłego. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Teukros" title="Wikipedysta:Teukros">Teukros</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Teukros" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Teukros">dyskusja</a>) 12:34, 29 lip 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Teukros|2018-07-29T10:34:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-29T10:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Teukros&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Teukros|2018-07-29T10:34:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Kenraiz|2018-07-29T11:27:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span>Byłoby dobrze zaproponować jakąś dolną granicę autoency dla obiektów sakralnych i z uwzględnieniem różnych religii. Pamiętam, że po dyskusjach poleciały sale królestwa, a byłoby niefajnie gdyby miejsca kultu były autoency lub z reguły nieencyklopedyczne tylko z racji religii. Przydałoby się postawić gdzieś granicę między kościołami (niechby autoency) a kaplicami i kapliczkami (tylko na ogólnych zasadach – zabytkowe, istotne ze względów historycznych etc.). <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Kenraiz" title="Wikipedysta:Kenraiz">Kenraiz</a> <small>(<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Kenraiz" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Kenraiz">dyskusja</a>)</small> 13:27, 29 lip 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Kenraiz|2018-07-29T11:27:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gruzin|2018-07-29T11:34:00.000Z|Kenraiz|2018-07-29T11:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-29T11:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Kenraiz&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Kenraiz|2018-07-29T11:27:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gruzin|2018-07-29T11:34:00.000Z|Kenraiz|2018-07-29T11:27:00.000Z"></span>Dla mnie sprawa jasna. Zabytek - autoency, nad innymi obiektami możemy dyskutować czy zostają czy nie. Obok mnie jest kościół zielonoświątkowców... w domku jednorodzinnym, z całym szacunkiem ale ency to on nie jest. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Gruzin" title="Wikipedysta:Gruzin">Gruzin</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Gruzin" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Gruzin">dyskusja</a>) 13:34, 29 lip 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gruzin|2018-07-29T11:34:00.000Z|Kenraiz|2018-07-29T11:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Anagram16|2018-07-29T12:55:00.000Z|Gruzin|2018-07-29T11:34:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-29T11:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gruzin&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gruzin|2018-07-29T11:34:00.000Z|Kenraiz|2018-07-29T11:27:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Anagram16|2018-07-29T12:55:00.000Z|Gruzin|2018-07-29T11:34:00.000Z"></span>A ilu zielonoświątkowców w ogóle jest w Polsce? Grupy wyznaniowe mają takie domy modlitwy, jakich potrzebują. Dla mnie wyznacznikiem encyklopedyczności byłaby odległość, z jakiej ludzie przyjeżdżają do tego miejsca. Katolik, jeśli ma do kościoła więcej niż pięć minut drogi, zaczyna narzekać i pisze petycje do biskupa o utworzenie nowej parafii, a ewangelicy czasem dojeżdżają po sto kilometrów, bo tak rzadko są rozsiane świątynie ich Kościoła. A gdyby do twoich sąsiadów przyjeżdżał zwierzchnik ich wyznania (nie wiem jak się u nich nazywa)? (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Anagram16" title="Wikipedysta:Anagram16">Anagram16</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Anagram16" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Anagram16">dyskusja</a>) 14:55, 29 lip 2018 (CEST))<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Anagram16|2018-07-29T12:55:00.000Z|Gruzin|2018-07-29T11:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-29T12:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Anagram16&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Anagram16|2018-07-29T12:55:00.000Z|Gruzin|2018-07-29T11:34:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Adamt|2018-07-29T11:52:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span>Budynki sakralne jako trwały element architektury były i nadal powinny być encyklopedyczne z racji pełnienia swoich funkcji społecznych, bardzo często będący głównym takim ośrodkiem w regionie. Wybudowane budynki sakralne są najbardziej trwałymi budowlami architektonicznymi, w przeciwieństwie do budynków mieszkalnych czy handlowych. NIe wrzucałbym do tego worka budynków zaadaptowanych do pełnienia funkcji sakralnych jak wspomniana wyżej willa, czy przeróżnych kaplic nie będących zabytkami. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Adamt" title="Wikipedysta:Adamt">Adamt</a> <small><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Adamt" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Adamt">rzeknij słowo</a></small> 13:52, 29 lip 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Adamt|2018-07-29T11:52:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-29T11:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Adamt&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Adamt|2018-07-29T11:52:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Anagram16|2018-07-29T12:12:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span>Nie uważam za encyklopedyczne/autoencyklopedyczne wszystkich obiektów sakralnych, kaplic cmentarnych i tymczasowych, szpitalnych i szkolnych, przydrożnych kapliczek i krzyży na rozstaju dróg albo w miejscu wypadku z ofiarami śmiertelnymi, domów rekolekcyjnych i prywatnych mieszkań, w których za czasów PRL-u odbywała się w ukryciu nauka religii, ale kościoły wydają mi się godne posiadania osobnych artykułów w Wikipedii. (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Anagram16" title="Wikipedysta:Anagram16">Anagram16</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Anagram16" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Anagram16">dyskusja</a>) 14:12, 29 lip 2018 (CEST))<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Anagram16|2018-07-29T12:12:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-29T12:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Anagram16&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Anagram16|2018-07-29T12:12:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Hoa binh|2018-07-29T13:37:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span>Sprawa jest prosta: zabytki i stare budynki są ency. Nowsze są ency, jeśli się wyróżniają architektonicznie, zostały zaprojektowane przez kogoś znanego, są dominantą architektoniczną okolicy, ich historia powstania jest jakoś wyróżniająca się, itp. - niestety, w większości czysto uznaniowo. No bo przecież jakiś kościół (zazwyczaj koszmarny architektonicznie), wzniesiony na jakimś nowym osiedlu w roku 2006 encyklopedyczny na pewno nie będzie. I mówimy o wolnostojących budynkach o przeznaczeniu sakralnym. Jakaś lefebrystyczna czy bożochrystusowa kaplica/sala spotkań urządzona w mieszkaniu na 3 piętrze kamienicy to zupełnie inna bajka jest i nie róbmy tutaj porównań. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Hoa_binh" title="Wikipedysta:Hoa binh">Hoa binh</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Hoa_binh" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Hoa binh">dyskusja</a>) 15:37, 29 lip 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Hoa binh|2018-07-29T13:37:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Anagram16|2018-07-29T13:45:00.000Z|Hoa binh|2018-07-29T13:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Gruzin|2018-07-29T16:11:00.000Z|Hoa binh|2018-07-29T13:37:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-29T13:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Hoa binh&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Hoa binh|2018-07-29T13:37:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Anagram16|2018-07-29T13:45:00.000Z|Hoa binh|2018-07-29T13:37:00.000Z"></span>Dla jednych koszmarny, dla innych (zwłaszcza samych projektantów) wybitne osiągnięcie myśli architektonicznej. Niektórym inżynierom architektom nie mieści się w głowie, że mogliby narysować budynek o czterech ścianach i dwuspadowym dachu. Ale tu się zgodzę, że można by poczekać, aż miedziana blacha pokryje się choć trochę patyną. (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Anagram16" title="Wikipedysta:Anagram16">Anagram16</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Anagram16" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Anagram16">dyskusja</a>) 15:45, 29 lip 2018 (CEST))<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Anagram16|2018-07-29T13:45:00.000Z|Hoa binh|2018-07-29T13:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-29T13:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Anagram16&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Anagram16|2018-07-29T13:45:00.000Z|Hoa binh|2018-07-29T13:37:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gruzin|2018-07-29T16:11:00.000Z|Hoa binh|2018-07-29T13:37:00.000Z"></span>Reasumując - zabytki, plus obiekty z innych powodów (wymienionych wyżej) zostają, reszta do dyskusji <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Gruzin" title="Wikipedysta:Gruzin">Gruzin</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Gruzin" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Gruzin">dyskusja</a>) 18:11, 29 lip 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gruzin|2018-07-29T16:11:00.000Z|Hoa binh|2018-07-29T13:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-29T16:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gruzin&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gruzin|2018-07-29T16:11:00.000Z|Hoa binh|2018-07-29T13:37:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Zetpe0202|2018-07-30T17:54:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span>Tylko pytania: <b>KTO</b> będzie decydował czy budynek jest encyklopedyczny czy też nie ? Jakiś znafca architektury, artysta ? Jakie będą kryteria <b>ŁADNOŚĆI</b> budowli, czyim gustem będziemy się kierować, co to jest budynek wyróżniający się architektonicznie (KTO decyduje o tym, że można go określić słowem <i>wyróżniający</i>) ? Czy też będzie to zasada <i>bo mię sie nie podoba i już</i>? Może wprowadzić kategorie: budowla ładna, budowla brzydka. Może obok administratora wprowadzić funkcję <i>Wikiarbiter elegantiarum do spraw architektury</i> albo <i>naczelny Wikiesteta</i> ?<br/>Jakoś nikomu z was nie przeszkadzają w encyklopedii chociażby postaci (postacie ?) z seriali dla kucharek, trzecorzędni sportowcy czwartorzędnych klubów z San Escobar. Tak, uważam że powinni być bo może kogoś interesują. Dodajcie do nazwy Wikipedia wolna encyklopedia <i>tylko dla kucharek</i> (kucharki wybaczcie) i ograniczcie jej treść. Chciałem żeby było dowcipnie, ale gdy przeczytałem co napisałem to ogarnęła mnie zgroza. O czym wy dyskutujecie ?! Tak ma według was wyglądać ENCYKLOPEDIA ? A sprawa wcale nie jest prosta. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Zetpe0202" title="Wikipedysta:Zetpe0202">Zetpe0202</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Zetpe0202" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Zetpe0202">dyskusja</a>) 19:54, 30 lip 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Zetpe0202|2018-07-30T17:54:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Gruzin|2018-07-30T18:47:00.000Z|Zetpe0202|2018-07-30T17:54:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-30T17:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Zetpe0202&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Zetpe0202|2018-07-30T17:54:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gruzin|2018-07-30T18:47:00.000Z|Zetpe0202|2018-07-30T17:54:00.000Z"></span>Właśnie przeszkadzają, ale opór zbyt wielki by zaostrzyć ;). W pewnych tematach autoency jest zbyt rozluźnione. W innych zbyt rygorystyczne. Jak wyżej pisałem jeśli budynek jest zabytkiem już jest ency, inne kryteria do omówienia <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Gruzin" title="Wikipedysta:Gruzin">Gruzin</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Gruzin" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Gruzin">dyskusja</a>) 20:47, 30 lip 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gruzin|2018-07-30T18:47:00.000Z|Zetpe0202|2018-07-30T17:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-30T18:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gruzin&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gruzin|2018-07-30T18:47:00.000Z|Zetpe0202|2018-07-30T17:54:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|John Belushi|2018-07-30T19:08:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span>były dyskusje na ten temat i to nie jedna. chodziło o encyklopedyczność parafii/zborów/gmin - niestety brakowało chętnych do doprowadzenia dyskusji do końca i dyskusje kończyły się brakiem ustaleń. a temat ten bezpośrednio łączy się z tematem obiektów sakralnych z których te parafie/zbory korzystają. obiekty sakralne same w sobie autoencyklopedyczne nie są - nie wiem skąd taki wniosek że nowo wybudowany kościół/bożnica/sala_zebrań jest autoencyklopedyczna. generalnie zgadzam się z Hoa, można dodatkowo przyjąć granicę że budowla spełniająca cel religijny od np. 30/50 lat nabywa encyklopedyczności o ile jest to obiekt wolnostojący - należy jednak pamiętać że nie wszystkie wspólnoty mogły cokolwiek budować przed rokiem 1989, a reszta była ograniczana z góry więc można uznać czas istnienia parafii/zboru/grupy_religijnej. za autoency uznał bym krajowe centra wspólnot o ile same wspólnoty są encyklopedyczne i są to obiekty o przeznaczeniu wyłącznie religijnym. temat wart kompleksowego uregulowania. - <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:John_Belushi" title="Wikipedysta:John Belushi">John Belushi</a> -- <small><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:John_Belushi" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:John Belushi">komentarz</a></small> 21:08, 30 lip 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|John Belushi|2018-07-30T19:08:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-30T19:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;John Belushi&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|John Belushi|2018-07-30T19:08:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gruzin|2018-07-30T19:30:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span>Sądzę, że autoency parafii/zborów/gmin powinna być. Natomiast samych budowli.... Zgadzam się z John'ym - czas na regulację tego tematu, choć tematyka trochę dla mnie poboczna ;) Jednak lubię jasność kryteriów. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Gruzin" title="Wikipedysta:Gruzin">Gruzin</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Gruzin" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Gruzin">dyskusja</a>) 21:30, 30 lip 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gruzin|2018-07-30T19:30:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-30T19:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gruzin&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gruzin|2018-07-30T19:30:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span>Żeby nie forsować nadmiernej uznaniowości, która owocuje konfliktami, proponuję autoencyklopedyczność kościołów parafialnych i filialnych, natomiast w przypadku kaplic/kapliczek/obiektów adaptowanych autoencyklopedyczność zabytkowych oraz posiadających duże znaczenie historyczne, biograficzne, czy zaprojektowanych przez uznanych artystów. Pzdr. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:MOs810" title="Wikipedysta:MOs810">MOs810</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:MOs810" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:MOs810">dyskusja</a>) 10:26, 31 lip 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|John Belushi|2018-07-31T08:36:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Gruzin|2018-07-31T14:56:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Teukros|2018-07-31T15:21:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Malarz pl|2018-07-31T16:44:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Adamt|2018-07-31T22:05:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;MOs810&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|John Belushi|2018-07-31T08:36:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z"></span>autoency są kościoły zabytkowe, a co do reszty jak widać po dyskusji obecnie obowiązują ogólne zasady encyklopedyczności. można wypracować dodatkowe zasady, ale takie które będą dotyczyły obiektów sakralnych wszystkich wspólnot religijnych. - <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:John_Belushi" title="Wikipedysta:John Belushi">John Belushi</a> -- <small><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:John_Belushi" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:John Belushi">komentarz</a></small> 10:36, 31 lip 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|John Belushi|2018-07-31T08:36:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-31T08:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;John Belushi&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|John Belushi|2018-07-31T08:36:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gruzin|2018-07-31T14:56:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z"></span>Pełna zgoda <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Gruzin" title="Wikipedysta:Gruzin">Gruzin</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Gruzin" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Gruzin">dyskusja</a>) 16:56, 31 lip 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gruzin|2018-07-31T14:56:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-31T14:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gruzin&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gruzin|2018-07-31T14:56:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Teukros|2018-07-31T15:21:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z"></span>Jak John Belushi. Myślę, że to co wyżej zaproponował Hoa binh mogłoby być dobrym punktem wyjścia do dalszych deliberacji. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Teukros" title="Wikipedysta:Teukros">Teukros</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Teukros" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Teukros">dyskusja</a>) 17:21, 31 lip 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Teukros|2018-07-31T15:21:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-31T15:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Teukros&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Teukros|2018-07-31T15:21:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Malarz pl|2018-07-31T16:44:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z"></span>Podobnie jak większość uważam obecny uzus za wystarczający. Zabytki i budynki sakralne z historią są encyklopedyczne, cała reszta na ogólnych zasadach (znaczenie/zauważalność). Czyli uznaniowość i brak automatyzmu. Jestem ostatnio coraz bardziej przeciw wszystkim "łatwym" autoency, które powodują powstawanie praktycznie pustych artykułów (infoboks + kilka zdań + dwa przypisy), z których nic nie wynika i nie wiadomo dlaczego są encyklopedyczne (poza zapisem autoency). Nic z nimi zrobic nie można, nikt nie chce ich rozbudowywać, ale też nie ma zgody na ich usunięcie bo są ency. Obecny stan w budowlach sakralnych powoduje w przypadku takich artykułów albo ich poprawę uzasadniającą encyklopedyczność albo usunięcie. ~<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Malarz_pl" title="Wikipedysta:Malarz pl"><span style="color:blue; font-weight:bold;">malarz pl</span></a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Malarz_pl" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Malarz pl"><sup><span style="color:red; font-style:italic;">PISZ</span></sup></a> 18:44, 31 lip 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Malarz pl|2018-07-31T16:44:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Zala|2018-07-31T17:50:00.000Z|Malarz pl|2018-07-31T16:44:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-31T16:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Malarz pl&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Malarz pl|2018-07-31T16:44:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z"></span>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Zala|2018-07-31T17:50:00.000Z|Malarz pl|2018-07-31T16:44:00.000Z"></span>Popieram zdanie Kolegi – tu naprawdę sztywna regulacja nie jest potrzebna... <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Zala" title="Wikipedysta:Zala">Zala</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Zala" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Zala">dyskusja</a>) 19:50, 31 lip 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Zala|2018-07-31T17:50:00.000Z|Malarz pl|2018-07-31T16:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-31T17:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Zala&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Zala|2018-07-31T17:50:00.000Z|Malarz pl|2018-07-31T16:44:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Adamt|2018-07-31T22:05:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z"></span>Popieram propozycję i podtrzymania dotychczasowej tendencji uznania encyklopedyczności wszystkich kościołów parafialnych i filialnych róznych wyznań (o czym świadczy powstawanie takich artykułów bez sprzeciwu z poparciem różnych projektów). Pozostałe obiekty sakralne tylko w przypadku ich wyjątkowości. Nie możemy lekką ręką usunąc kolejnych kilkadziesiąt artykułów bo ktos się nagle obudził. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Adamt" title="Wikipedysta:Adamt">Adamt</a> <small><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Adamt" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Adamt">rzeknij słowo</a></small> 00:05, 1 sie 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Adamt|2018-07-31T22:05:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|John Belushi|2018-08-01T18:20:00.000Z|Adamt|2018-07-31T22:05:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-07-31T22:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Adamt&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Adamt|2018-07-31T22:05:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-31T08:26:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|John Belushi|2018-08-01T18:20:00.000Z|Adamt|2018-07-31T22:05:00.000Z"></span>raczej ten problem był wielokrotnie dyskutowany albo w kawiarence albo na DNU. moim zdaniem takie artykuły jak <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parafia_%C5%9Bw._Miko%C5%82aja_w_Wielkim_%C5%81%C4%99cku" title="Parafia św. Mikołaja w Wielkim Łęcku">ten dzisiejszy</a> powinny od ręki wracać do brudnopisu autora. głównym autorem setek albo i tysięcy takich stubów o parafiach/zborach/kościołach różnych wyznań jest @<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Macuk" title="Wikipedysta:Macuk">Macuk</a> który chyba nigdy nie raczył wziąć udziału w dyskusji na ten temat. jeśli mamy tworzyć encyklopedię to nie możemy stawiać na ilość. niedawna dyskusja w tej sprawie <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Poczekalnia/artyku%C5%82y/2018:07:10:Parafia_%C5%9Bw._Klemensa_Dworzaka_w_G%C5%82ogowie" title="Wikipedia:Poczekalnia/artykuły/2018:07:10:Parafia św. Klemensa Dworzaka w Głogowie">Wikipedia:Poczekalnia/artykuły/2018:07:10:Parafia św. Klemensa Dworzaka w Głogowie</a> - <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:John_Belushi" title="Wikipedysta:John Belushi">John Belushi</a> -- <small><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:John_Belushi" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:John Belushi">komentarz</a></small> 20:20, 1 sie 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|John Belushi|2018-08-01T18:20:00.000Z|Adamt|2018-07-31T22:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-08-01T18:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;John Belushi&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|John Belushi|2018-08-01T18:20:00.000Z|Adamt|2018-07-31T22:05:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|KamilK7|2018-08-06T14:08:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span>Mamy zasady i zalecenia, z których jednoznacznie wynika, że jeśli coś jest encyklopedyczne, to istnieje wiele źródeł niezależnych od opisywanego tematu, które są mu poświęcone. I o ile dobrze opracowane kryteria autoency pozwalają uniknąć zbędnych dyskusji i jestem generalnie ich zwolennikiem, to punktem wyjścia przy ich tworzeniu powinno być to, co napisałem w pierwszym zdaniu. Kościoły zabytkowe na pewno są opisane w niezależnych źródłach. Także kościoły, które nie są jeszcze uznawane za zabytkowe, ale odznaczają się unikatową architekturą/wielkością etc. również są wspominane w pracach naukowych (i to nie szkodzi, że któryś tam jest określany w pejoratywny sposób - brzydkie kaczątka także opisujemy). Jestem jednak przeciwny autoency tylko dla tego, że jakiś budynek został przeznaczony, albo nawet był dedykowany, do pełnienia roli kościoła. I nie mieszajmy tutaj encyklopedyczności budynków, którym przyznano zacną rolę pełnienia kościoła, z ewentualną encyklopedycznością parafii/zborów, czy czegokolwiek innego - to osobne tematy. I nie, nie zgodzę się ze zdaniem, że to "zmiana zasad gry w trakcie gry" - zasady gry były takie same od kiedy ustalono teksty WP:WER i WP:ENCY, co najwyżej w niektórych wypadkach owe zasady nie były egzekwowane (np. ze strachu, że ktoś zapyta o WP:ENCY, a w odpowiedzi zamiast merytorycznej dyskusji go nazwą ateistą). <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:KamilK7" title="Wikipedysta:KamilK7">KamilK7</a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:KamilK7" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:KamilK7">✉</a> 16:08, 6 sie 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|KamilK7|2018-08-06T14:08:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-08-06T14:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;KamilK7&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|KamilK7|2018-08-06T14:08:00.000Z|MOs810|2018-07-29T10:14:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Cz ja|2018-08-13T22:43:00.000Z|Autoencyklopedyczność_kościołów_-_propozycja_głosowania"></span>Kościoły są to obiekty fizyczne, ważne głównie dla lokalnej społeczności. Każdy kościół opisany w Wikipedii zawiera wikidane wykorzystywane w innych projektach. Usuwanie kościołów z bazy danych encyklopedii zwanej Wikipedia byłoby dużym błędem. Podobna sprawa jest z pomnikami, płytami i innymi fizycznymi obiektami. W dobie internetu i rozwiązań mobilnych wikidane pozwalają połączyć obiekt fizyczny dodany do np. mapy lub innego projektu z artykułem w encyklopedii. Nie wyobrażam sobie, a by ktoś o zdrowych zmysłach nawet pomyślał o usuwaniu takich danych, które stanowią z punktu widzenia danej jednostki organizacyjnej spójną bazę danych fizycznych obiektów w tym przypadku: sakralnych. Owszem ustawiczna kontrola i czyszczenie "słabych artykułów" jest koniecznością,tak więc według mnie świątynie o mniejszym znaczeniu mogą nie spełniać wymogu "encyklopedyczności" takim przypadkiem może być świątynia organizowana m.in. w domach mieszkalnych.. trochę takich obiektów jest, widziałem niektóre z nich i sądzę, że nie zasługują one w żadnym wypadku na istnienie w Wikipedii jako osobny artykuł. 
-Czy ta dyskusja jest o encyklopedii papierowej, czy elektronicznej? Jeśli elektronicznej to jest zbędna. Warunek "encyklopedyczności" jest przeważającej większości spełniony. Jeśli papierowej to sorry papier kosztuje i trzeba wybrać świątynie, jakie mogą się na nim znaleźć tak do 5-10 świątyń na kraj, bo papier drogi. Wspominałem już, że papier nie jest najtańszy?<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Cz_ja" title="Wikipedysta:Cz ja">Cz ja</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Cz_ja" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Cz ja">dyskusja</a>) 00:43, 14 sie 2018 (CEST) Sorry za mój ton, ale jak słyszę o usuwaniu uźródłowionych, encyklopedycznych artykułów to robi mi się trochę słabo. Tylu artykułów brakuje, nie ma komu zbytnio tłumaczyć, poprawiać, rozwijać, tworzyć nowe artykuły, a tu pomysł wyrzucenia kilka tysięcy kościołów z encyklopedii...<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Cz_ja" title="Wikipedysta:Cz ja">Cz ja</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Cz_ja" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Cz ja">dyskusja</a>) 01:07, 14 sie 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Cz ja|2018-08-13T22:43:00.000Z|Autoencyklopedyczno\u015b\u0107_ko\u015bcio\u0142\u00f3w_-_propozycja_g\u0142osowania&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Malarz pl|2018-08-14T07:07:00.000Z|Cz ja|2018-08-13T22:43:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-08-13T22:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Cz ja&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Cz ja|2018-08-13T22:43:00.000Z|Autoencyklopedyczność_kościołów_-_propozycja_głosowania"></span>
+Czy ta dyskusja jest o encyklopedii papierowej, czy elektronicznej? Jeśli elektronicznej to jest zbędna. Warunek "encyklopedyczności" jest przeważającej większości spełniony. Jeśli papierowej to sorry papier kosztuje i trzeba wybrać świątynie, jakie mogą się na nim znaleźć tak do 5-10 świątyń na kraj, bo papier drogi. Wspominałem już, że papier nie jest najtańszy?<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Cz_ja" title="Wikipedysta:Cz ja">Cz ja</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Cz_ja" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Cz ja">dyskusja</a>) 00:43, 14 sie 2018 (CEST) Sorry za mój ton, ale jak słyszę o usuwaniu uźródłowionych, encyklopedycznych artykułów to robi mi się trochę słabo. Tylu artykułów brakuje, nie ma komu zbytnio tłumaczyć, poprawiać, rozwijać, tworzyć nowe artykuły, a tu pomysł wyrzucenia kilka tysięcy kościołów z encyklopedii...<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Cz_ja" title="Wikipedysta:Cz ja">Cz ja</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Cz_ja" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Cz ja">dyskusja</a>) 01:07, 14 sie 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Cz ja|2018-08-13T22:43:00.000Z|Autoencyklopedyczno\u015b\u0107_ko\u015bcio\u0142\u00f3w_-_propozycja_g\u0142osowania&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Malarz pl|2018-08-14T07:07:00.000Z|Cz ja|2018-08-13T22:43:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-08-13T22:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Cz ja&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Cz ja|2018-08-13T22:43:00.000Z|Autoencyklopedyczność_kościołów_-_propozycja_głosowania"></span>
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-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Malarz pl|2018-08-14T07:07:00.000Z|Cz ja|2018-08-13T22:43:00.000Z"></span>Przeczytaj początek i będziesz wiedział, że dyskusja jest o <b>auto</b>encyklopedyczności wszystkich kościołów/obiektów sakralnych. Poza tym nikt nie chce usuwać artykułów z automatu, tylko przez poczekalnię. ~<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Malarz_pl" title="Wikipedysta:Malarz pl"><span style="color:blue; font-weight:bold;">malarz pl</span></a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Malarz_pl" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Malarz pl"><sup><span style="color:red; font-style:italic;">PISZ</span></sup></a> 09:07, 14 sie 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Malarz pl|2018-08-14T07:07:00.000Z|Cz ja|2018-08-13T22:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-08-14T07:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Malarz pl&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Malarz pl|2018-08-14T07:07:00.000Z|Cz ja|2018-08-13T22:43:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-08-31T15:59:00.000Z|Autoencyklopedyczność_kościołów_-_propozycja_głosowania"></span>Moim zdaniem budowle sakralne są jak najbardziej autoency. Ostatecznie można by integrować arty o parafiach/gminach z tymi o świątyniach, jeśli dla kogoś będą "mało wyjątkowe" (tu można wprowadzić dość ścisłe kryterium budynku wolnostojącego). No chyba, że jakiś delecjonista zacznie wywalać hasła o parafiach... <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:BasileusAutokratorPL" title="Wikipedysta:BasileusAutokratorPL">BasileusAutokratorPL</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:BasileusAutokratorPL" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:BasileusAutokratorPL">dyskusja</a>) 17:59, 31 sie 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-08-31T15:59:00.000Z|Autoencyklopedyczno\u015b\u0107_ko\u015bcio\u0142\u00f3w_-_propozycja_g\u0142osowania&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ciacho5|2018-09-08T16:10:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-08-31T15:59:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-08-31T15:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;BasileusAutokratorPL&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-08-31T15:59:00.000Z|Autoencyklopedyczność_kościołów_-_propozycja_głosowania"></span>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Malarz pl|2018-08-14T07:07:00.000Z|Cz ja|2018-08-13T22:43:00.000Z"></span>Przeczytaj początek i będziesz wiedział, że dyskusja jest o <b>auto</b>encyklopedyczności wszystkich kościołów/obiektów sakralnych. Poza tym nikt nie chce usuwać artykułów z automatu, tylko przez poczekalnię. ~<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Malarz_pl" title="Wikipedysta:Malarz pl"><span style="color:blue; font-weight:bold;">malarz pl</span></a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Malarz_pl" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Malarz pl"><sup><span style="color:red; font-style:italic;">PISZ</span></sup></a> 09:07, 14 sie 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Malarz pl|2018-08-14T07:07:00.000Z|Cz ja|2018-08-13T22:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-08-14T07:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Malarz pl&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Malarz pl|2018-08-14T07:07:00.000Z|Cz ja|2018-08-13T22:43:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-08-31T15:59:00.000Z|Autoencyklopedyczność_kościołów_-_propozycja_głosowania"></span>Moim zdaniem budowle sakralne są jak najbardziej autoency. Ostatecznie można by integrować arty o parafiach/gminach z tymi o świątyniach, jeśli dla kogoś będą "mało wyjątkowe" (tu można wprowadzić dość ścisłe kryterium budynku wolnostojącego). No chyba, że jakiś delecjonista zacznie wywalać hasła o parafiach... <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:BasileusAutokratorPL" title="Wikipedysta:BasileusAutokratorPL">BasileusAutokratorPL</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:BasileusAutokratorPL" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:BasileusAutokratorPL">dyskusja</a>) 17:59, 31 sie 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-08-31T15:59:00.000Z|Autoencyklopedyczno\u015b\u0107_ko\u015bcio\u0142\u00f3w_-_propozycja_g\u0142osowania&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ciacho5|2018-09-08T16:10:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-08-31T15:59:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-08-31T15:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;BasileusAutokratorPL&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-08-31T15:59:00.000Z|Autoencyklopedyczność_kościołów_-_propozycja_głosowania"></span>
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-<ul><li><i><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ciacho5|2018-09-08T16:10:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-08-31T15:59:00.000Z"></span>budowle sakralne</i> autoency. @<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:BasileusAutokratorPL" title="Wikipedysta:BasileusAutokratorPL">BasileusAutokratorPL</a> nie chce mi się wprowadzać galerii, ale na świecie jest sporo budowli sakralnych o znaczeniu mniejszym niż u nas słupy telefoniczne. Ba, w Polsce, wieku XXI w wielu miejscowościach są domy wyróżniające się tylko krzyżem na ścianie lub tabliczka na furtce, mówiącą, że to obiekt sakralny. I teraz mamy opisywać architekturę typowego "klocka" wiejskiego? Bo godziny mszy to już nie są sprawą budynku lecz grupy wyznaniowej. Wszystkie przydrożne kapliczki (łącznie z niektórym kiczem lat ostatnich)? Jamkę wykopaną w ziemi, gdzie tubylec znad Amazonki sypie ziarno na ofiarę swojemu bóstwu? <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Ciacho5" title="Wikipedysta:Ciacho5">Ciacho5</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Ciacho5" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Ciacho5">dyskusja</a>) 18:10, 8 wrz 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ciacho5|2018-09-08T16:10:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-08-31T15:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-09-08T16:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ciacho5&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ciacho5|2018-09-08T16:10:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-08-31T15:59:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-09-09T15:15:00.000Z|Autoencyklopedyczność_kościołów_-_propozycja_głosowania"></span>"Jama w ziemi" nie jest obiektem trwałym. Świątynie stanowią istotny element wiejskiego/miejskiego krajobrazu i jako takie  powinny być uznane za autoency - pod dwoma warunkami: określenia, co wg zasad Wiki jest świątynią (że np. musi stać na odrębnej działce lub że musi ją prowadzić zarejestrowanyzwiązek wyznaniowy) oraz podanie wyjątków od zasady autoencyklopedyczności (np. niezabytkowe kościoły filialne). "Kiczowatość" budynku encyklopedyczności nie odbiera.<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:BasileusAutokratorPL" title="Wikipedysta:BasileusAutokratorPL">BasileusAutokratorPL</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:BasileusAutokratorPL" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:BasileusAutokratorPL">dyskusja</a>) 17:15, 9 wrz 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-09-09T15:15:00.000Z|Autoencyklopedyczno\u015b\u0107_ko\u015bcio\u0142\u00f3w_-_propozycja_g\u0142osowania&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Alan ffm|2018-10-08T09:34:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-09-09T15:15:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-09-09T15:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;BasileusAutokratorPL&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-09-09T15:15:00.000Z|Autoencyklopedyczność_kościołów_-_propozycja_głosowania"></span>
+<ul><li><i><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ciacho5|2018-09-08T16:10:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-08-31T15:59:00.000Z"></span>budowle sakralne</i> autoency. @<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:BasileusAutokratorPL" title="Wikipedysta:BasileusAutokratorPL">BasileusAutokratorPL</a> nie chce mi się wprowadzać galerii, ale na świecie jest sporo budowli sakralnych o znaczeniu mniejszym niż u nas słupy telefoniczne. Ba, w Polsce, wieku XXI w wielu miejscowościach są domy wyróżniające się tylko krzyżem na ścianie lub tabliczka na furtce, mówiącą, że to obiekt sakralny. I teraz mamy opisywać architekturę typowego "klocka" wiejskiego? Bo godziny mszy to już nie są sprawą budynku lecz grupy wyznaniowej. Wszystkie przydrożne kapliczki (łącznie z niektórym kiczem lat ostatnich)? Jamkę wykopaną w ziemi, gdzie tubylec znad Amazonki sypie ziarno na ofiarę swojemu bóstwu? <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Ciacho5" title="Wikipedysta:Ciacho5">Ciacho5</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Ciacho5" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Ciacho5">dyskusja</a>) 18:10, 8 wrz 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ciacho5|2018-09-08T16:10:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-08-31T15:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-09-08T16:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ciacho5&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ciacho5|2018-09-08T16:10:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-08-31T15:59:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-09-09T15:15:00.000Z|Autoencyklopedyczność_kościołów_-_propozycja_głosowania"></span>"Jama w ziemi" nie jest obiektem trwałym. Świątynie stanowią istotny element wiejskiego/miejskiego krajobrazu i jako takie  powinny być uznane za autoency - pod dwoma warunkami: określenia, co wg zasad Wiki jest świątynią (że np. musi stać na odrębnej działce lub że musi ją prowadzić zarejestrowanyzwiązek wyznaniowy) oraz podanie wyjątków od zasady autoencyklopedyczności (np. niezabytkowe kościoły filialne). "Kiczowatość" budynku encyklopedyczności nie odbiera.<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:BasileusAutokratorPL" title="Wikipedysta:BasileusAutokratorPL">BasileusAutokratorPL</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:BasileusAutokratorPL" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:BasileusAutokratorPL">dyskusja</a>) 17:15, 9 wrz 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-09-09T15:15:00.000Z|Autoencyklopedyczno\u015b\u0107_ko\u015bcio\u0142\u00f3w_-_propozycja_g\u0142osowania&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Alan ffm|2018-10-08T09:34:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-09-09T15:15:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-09-09T15:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;BasileusAutokratorPL&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-09-09T15:15:00.000Z|Autoencyklopedyczność_kościołów_-_propozycja_głosowania"></span>
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-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Alan ffm|2018-10-08T09:34:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-09-09T15:15:00.000Z"></span>By nie wynikły niespójne wyrywkowe rozwiązania nieprzystające do reszty wikiświata kwestię należałoby rozpatrywać bardziej kompleksowo pod kątem ogólnych zasad (znaczenie/zauważalność). Przy tym z jednej strony pod kątem encyklopedyczności organizacji (np. parafii, stowarzyszeń, itp.), a z drugiej strony pod kątem encyklopedyczności obiektów budowlanych, (np. kościołów, szkół, budowli transportowych, inżynieryjnych, obiektów przemysłowych, handlowych, sportowych itp.). W tym drugim przypadku przesłankami ency może być np. znaczenie historyczne, ranga pełnionej funkcji użytkowej, znaczenie ze względu na rozwiązania architektoniczne/techniczne, zauważalność ze względu na znaczenie turystyczne itp.--<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Alan_ffm" title="Wikipedysta:Alan ffm">Alan ffm</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Alan_ffm" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Alan ffm">dyskusja</a>) 11:34, 8 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Alan ffm|2018-10-08T09:34:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-09-09T15:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-08T09:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Alan ffm&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Alan ffm|2018-10-08T09:34:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-09-09T15:15:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Alan ffm|2018-10-08T09:34:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-09-09T15:15:00.000Z"></span>By nie wynikły niespójne wyrywkowe rozwiązania nieprzystające do reszty wikiświata kwestię należałoby rozpatrywać bardziej kompleksowo pod kątem ogólnych zasad (znaczenie/zauważalność). Przy tym z jednej strony pod kątem encyklopedyczności organizacji (np. parafii, stowarzyszeń, itp.), a z drugiej strony pod kątem encyklopedyczności obiektów budowlanych, (np. kościołów, szkół, budowli transportowych, inżynieryjnych, obiektów przemysłowych, handlowych, sportowych itp.). W tym drugim przypadku przesłankami ency może być np. znaczenie historyczne, ranga pełnionej funkcji użytkowej, znaczenie ze względu na rozwiązania architektoniczne/techniczne, zauważalność ze względu na znaczenie turystyczne itp.--<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Alan_ffm" title="Wikipedysta:Alan ffm">Alan ffm</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Alan_ffm" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Alan ffm">dyskusja</a>) 11:34, 8 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Alan ffm|2018-10-08T09:34:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-09-09T15:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-08T09:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Alan ffm&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Alan ffm|2018-10-08T09:34:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-09-09T15:15:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Wostr|2018-10-09T20:26:00.000Z|Zbrodnie_oddziałów_Ludowej_Straży_Bezpieczeństwa"></span>W Wikidanych wyskoczyła podejrzana próba dodawania opisu przez osobę spod IP. IPek dodawał informację, że za <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbrodnia_w_Korytnikach" title="Zbrodnia w Korytnikach">Zbrodnia w Korytnikach</a> odpowiedzialne było UPA, za chwilę zmienił na LSB. Elementy w WD były jeszcze przed chwilą puste, ale chciałbym się upewnić, że informacje w tych czterech artykułach w <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategoria:Zbrodnie_oddzia%C5%82%C3%B3w_Ludowej_Stra%C5%BCy_Bezpiecze%C5%84stwa" title="Kategoria:Zbrodnie oddziałów Ludowej Straży Bezpieczeństwa">Kategoria:Zbrodnie oddziałów Ludowej Straży Bezpieczeństwa</a> są okej, bo posłużyły mi za wypełnienie odpowiadających im elementów w WD. Pytam, bo mało edytowane i odwiedzane, wszędzie jedno i to samo źródło, a tematyka jest potencjalnie kontrowersyjna. Mógłby ktoś rzucić okiem na arty w tej kategorii i stwierdzić okej/nie okej? <i><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Wostr" title="Wikipedysta:Wostr">Wostr</a></i> <small>(<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Wostr" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Wostr">dyskusja</a>)</small> 22:26, 9 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Wostr|2018-10-09T20:26:00.000Z|Zbrodnie_oddzia\u0142\u00f3w_Ludowej_Stra\u017cy_Bezpiecze\u0144stwa&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Kriis bis|2018-10-11T12:15:00.000Z|Wostr|2018-10-09T20:26:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-09T20:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Wostr&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Wostr|2018-10-09T20:26:00.000Z|Zbrodnie_oddziałów_Ludowej_Straży_Bezpieczeństwa"></span>W Wikidanych wyskoczyła podejrzana próba dodawania opisu przez osobę spod IP. IPek dodawał informację, że za <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbrodnia_w_Korytnikach" title="Zbrodnia w Korytnikach">Zbrodnia w Korytnikach</a> odpowiedzialne było UPA, za chwilę zmienił na LSB. Elementy w WD były jeszcze przed chwilą puste, ale chciałbym się upewnić, że informacje w tych czterech artykułach w <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategoria:Zbrodnie_oddzia%C5%82%C3%B3w_Ludowej_Stra%C5%BCy_Bezpiecze%C5%84stwa" title="Kategoria:Zbrodnie oddziałów Ludowej Straży Bezpieczeństwa">Kategoria:Zbrodnie oddziałów Ludowej Straży Bezpieczeństwa</a> są okej, bo posłużyły mi za wypełnienie odpowiadających im elementów w WD. Pytam, bo mało edytowane i odwiedzane, wszędzie jedno i to samo źródło, a tematyka jest potencjalnie kontrowersyjna. Mógłby ktoś rzucić okiem na arty w tej kategorii i stwierdzić okej/nie okej? <i><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Wostr" title="Wikipedysta:Wostr">Wostr</a></i> <small>(<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Wostr" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Wostr">dyskusja</a>)</small> 22:26, 9 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Wostr|2018-10-09T20:26:00.000Z|Zbrodnie_oddzia\u0142\u00f3w_Ludowej_Stra\u017cy_Bezpiecze\u0144stwa&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Kriis bis|2018-10-11T12:15:00.000Z|Wostr|2018-10-09T20:26:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-09T20:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Wostr&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Kriis bis|2018-10-11T12:15:00.000Z|Wostr|2018-10-09T20:26:00.000Z"></span>Wszystkie te zbrodnie, wg obecnej treści haseł, są przypisane oddziałowi pod dowództwem <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Kisiel" title="Roman Kisiel">Romana Kisiela ps. Sęp</a>. Którego biografia zasługuje na zainteresowanie. Krótkie streszczenie: Był w BCh, tych wcielonych do AK. Ale raczej lubił działać na własną rękę. Latem 1944 organizował w powiecie przemyskim sieć posterunków Milicji Obywatelskiej (co nb. było częste u ludzi z BCh). Czyli działał już na terenach wyzwolonych spod Niemca. <b>We wrześniu 1944 przyłączył się do oddziałów LSB. W lipcu 1945 ujawnił się</b> (w tym okresie popełniono zbrodnie - marzec, kwiecień 1945). We wrześniu 1945 aresztowany, podpisuje kwit o współpracy z UB, zwolniony w czerwcu 1946, ukrywa się. We wrześniu 1947 podejmuje jednak współpracę z UB, ale w październiku 1947 znowu aresztowany. Śledztwo umorzono, zwolniony (nie wiadomo kiedy), w 1950 organizuje jakieś podziemne oddziały, w 1952 znowu aresztowany, w 1953 kara śmierci, zamieniona na 15 lat, zwolniony już w 1956, praca w ZBOWiD, potem tajna współpraca z SB. Wg mnie ewidentnie współpracownik ubecji, zapewne ratujący własną głowę, organizujący prowokacje celem rozbicia podziemia niepokornych ludowców, tych "nieprzekonanych" do pomysłu budowy wspólnie z PPR i PZPR nowej, komunistycznej Polski. Pytanie, czy zbrodnie Kisiela (o ile je popełnił) można przypisać organizacyjnie do LSB? Czy Kisiel może działał na własną rękę, jeno <i>pod płaszczykiem</i> LSB, czy może był już wtedy człowiekiem ubecji? Należałoby sięgnąć po rzetelne, współczesne monografie opisujące podziemie działające na terenach, na których dojść miało to ww. zbrodni. Bo w książce samego Kisiela <i>Bez munduru my żołnierze 1939–1944</i> (wyd. 1969, czyli w szczytowym okresie <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mieczys%C5%82aw_Moczar" title="Mieczysław Moczar">Moczara</a>) bym nie szukał. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Kriis_bis" title="Wikipedysta:Kriis bis">Kriis bis</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Kriis_bis" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Kriis bis">dyskusja</a>) 14:15, 11 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Kriis bis|2018-10-11T12:15:00.000Z|Wostr|2018-10-09T20:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-11T12:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Kriis bis&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Kriis bis|2018-10-11T12:15:00.000Z|Wostr|2018-10-09T20:26:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Kriis bis|2018-10-11T12:15:00.000Z|Wostr|2018-10-09T20:26:00.000Z"></span>Wszystkie te zbrodnie, wg obecnej treści haseł, są przypisane oddziałowi pod dowództwem <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Kisiel" title="Roman Kisiel">Romana Kisiela ps. Sęp</a>. Którego biografia zasługuje na zainteresowanie. Krótkie streszczenie: Był w BCh, tych wcielonych do AK. Ale raczej lubił działać na własną rękę. Latem 1944 organizował w powiecie przemyskim sieć posterunków Milicji Obywatelskiej (co nb. było częste u ludzi z BCh). Czyli działał już na terenach wyzwolonych spod Niemca. <b>We wrześniu 1944 przyłączył się do oddziałów LSB. W lipcu 1945 ujawnił się</b> (w tym okresie popełniono zbrodnie - marzec, kwiecień 1945). We wrześniu 1945 aresztowany, podpisuje kwit o współpracy z UB, zwolniony w czerwcu 1946, ukrywa się. We wrześniu 1947 podejmuje jednak współpracę z UB, ale w październiku 1947 znowu aresztowany. Śledztwo umorzono, zwolniony (nie wiadomo kiedy), w 1950 organizuje jakieś podziemne oddziały, w 1952 znowu aresztowany, w 1953 kara śmierci, zamieniona na 15 lat, zwolniony już w 1956, praca w ZBOWiD, potem tajna współpraca z SB. Wg mnie ewidentnie współpracownik ubecji, zapewne ratujący własną głowę, organizujący prowokacje celem rozbicia podziemia niepokornych ludowców, tych "nieprzekonanych" do pomysłu budowy wspólnie z PPR i PZPR nowej, komunistycznej Polski. Pytanie, czy zbrodnie Kisiela (o ile je popełnił) można przypisać organizacyjnie do LSB? Czy Kisiel może działał na własną rękę, jeno <i>pod płaszczykiem</i> LSB, czy może był już wtedy człowiekiem ubecji? Należałoby sięgnąć po rzetelne, współczesne monografie opisujące podziemie działające na terenach, na których dojść miało to ww. zbrodni. Bo w książce samego Kisiela <i>Bez munduru my żołnierze 1939–1944</i> (wyd. 1969, czyli w szczytowym okresie <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mieczys%C5%82aw_Moczar" title="Mieczysław Moczar">Moczara</a>) bym nie szukał. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Kriis_bis" title="Wikipedysta:Kriis bis">Kriis bis</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Kriis_bis" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Kriis bis">dyskusja</a>) 14:15, 11 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Kriis bis|2018-10-11T12:15:00.000Z|Wostr|2018-10-09T20:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-11T12:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Kriis bis&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Kriis bis|2018-10-11T12:15:00.000Z|Wostr|2018-10-09T20:26:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Sekcja_Literatura" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Sekcja_Literatura|2018-10-10T19:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ciacho5|2018-10-10T19:51:00.000Z|Sekcja_Literatura&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Sekcja_Literatura|2018-10-10T19:51:00.000Z"></span>Sekcja <i>Literatura</i><span data-mw-comment-end="h|Sekcja_Literatura|2018-10-10T19:51:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ciacho5|2018-10-10T19:51:00.000Z|Sekcja_Literatura"></span>Na przykład w haśle <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droga_%C5%9Bw._Jakuba" title="Droga św. Jakuba">Droga św. Jakuba</a> mamy sekcję, gdzie jest coraz więcej pozycji. Od Kodeksu kalikstyńskiego i powieści Coelho po opowieści współczesnych pielgrzymów. O ile niektóre z tych książek (i filmów) to są ważne/znane dzieła, to dodawanie książek/czek <i>jak to z żoną i synem przebyliśmy Drogę</i> nie wydaje mi się encyklopedyczne. Co z tego, że ktoś sobie nakręcił film dokumentalny. Postuluję usunięcie z sekcji chociaż czerwonolinkowych. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Ciacho5" title="Wikipedysta:Ciacho5">Ciacho5</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Ciacho5" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Ciacho5">dyskusja</a>) 21:51, 10 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ciacho5|2018-10-10T19:51:00.000Z|Sekcja_Literatura&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Piotr967|2018-10-10T21:52:00.000Z|Ciacho5|2018-10-10T19:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Ciacho5|2018-10-11T08:12:00.000Z|Ciacho5|2018-10-10T19:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Henryk Tannh\u00e4user|2018-10-11T12:44:00.000Z|Ciacho5|2018-10-10T19:51:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-10T19:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ciacho5&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ciacho5|2018-10-10T19:51:00.000Z|Sekcja_Literatura"></span>Na przykład w haśle <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droga_%C5%9Bw._Jakuba" title="Droga św. Jakuba">Droga św. Jakuba</a> mamy sekcję, gdzie jest coraz więcej pozycji. Od Kodeksu kalikstyńskiego i powieści Coelho po opowieści współczesnych pielgrzymów. O ile niektóre z tych książek (i filmów) to są ważne/znane dzieła, to dodawanie książek/czek <i>jak to z żoną i synem przebyliśmy Drogę</i> nie wydaje mi się encyklopedyczne. Co z tego, że ktoś sobie nakręcił film dokumentalny. Postuluję usunięcie z sekcji chociaż czerwonolinkowych. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Ciacho5" title="Wikipedysta:Ciacho5">Ciacho5</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Ciacho5" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Ciacho5">dyskusja</a>) 21:51, 10 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ciacho5|2018-10-10T19:51:00.000Z|Sekcja_Literatura&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Piotr967|2018-10-10T21:52:00.000Z|Ciacho5|2018-10-10T19:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Ciacho5|2018-10-11T08:12:00.000Z|Ciacho5|2018-10-10T19:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Henryk Tannh\u00e4user|2018-10-11T12:44:00.000Z|Ciacho5|2018-10-10T19:51:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-10T19:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ciacho5&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Piotr967|2018-10-10T21:52:00.000Z|Ciacho5|2018-10-10T19:51:00.000Z"></span>hm, jednym z kryt. bycia ency jest obecność w literaturze, filmie itp. Więc to jest istotna info. Tyle, że z głową. Tzn. książka musi być albo ency, albo chociaż ency pisarza. Dlatego podwójnie czerwonolinki (tzn. i książka i jej autor) bym wywalał. natomiast fakt, że ksiązka jest czerwonolinka nie jest przesłanką do wywalenia, o ile autor jest znaczący. Plus wyjątek dla najstarszej publikacji o Drodze, tej z wczesnego średniowiecza. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Piotr967" title="Wikipedysta:Piotr967">Piotr967</a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Piotr967" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Piotr967"><i>podyskutujmy</i></a> 23:52, 10 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Piotr967|2018-10-10T21:52:00.000Z|Ciacho5|2018-10-10T19:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-10T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Piotr967&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Piotr967|2018-10-10T21:52:00.000Z|Ciacho5|2018-10-10T19:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ciacho5|2018-10-11T08:12:00.000Z|Ciacho5|2018-10-10T19:51:00.000Z"></span>Nawet gdyby nie znalazło się żadnej ksiązki o Camino, to jest to fenomen z pewnością encyklopedyczny. Problem w tym, że im bardziej ency, tym bardziej obrasta literaturą, która do wkazania encyklopedyczności już nie jest potrzebna. Jeżeli jedyną przesłanką ency jest to, że na podstawie losów jakiegoś szeregowego żołnierza napisano książkę i nakręcono film (jest taki), to w artykule trzeba poświęcić całą sekcję na to, kto jak i kiedy oraz dlaczego opisał. Natomiast wyliczanie wszystkich ksiązek, których akcja dzieje się w Warszawie..... Warto (aczkolwiek nie wiem gdzie) opisać Warszawę Prusa (albo Prusa warszawskiego), ale hamować się trzeba. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Ciacho5" title="Wikipedysta:Ciacho5">Ciacho5</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Ciacho5" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Ciacho5">dyskusja</a>) 10:12, 11 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ciacho5|2018-10-11T08:12:00.000Z|Ciacho5|2018-10-10T19:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-11T08:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ciacho5&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ciacho5|2018-10-11T08:12:00.000Z|Ciacho5|2018-10-10T19:51:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Henryk Tannhäuser|2018-10-11T12:44:00.000Z|Ciacho5|2018-10-10T19:51:00.000Z"></span>Pół z tego co jest w sekcji "literatura" w ogóle nie jest literaturą (np. albumy). Rozdział ten postrzegam więc jako śmietnik powstały na skutek nierozumienia znaczenia słów, których się używa. Wypisywanie na własna rękę pozycji w podpunktach to zresztą chyba OR - każdym razie <i>na pewno</i> jest to <i>praca badawcza</i>. Rozdziały takie mogłyby powstawać na Wiki na podstawie publikacji mówiących o obecności czegoś w literaturze przygotowanych przez specjalistów, na własną rękę jest to amatorska praca własna, i to często bardzo słaba. Nie mielibyśmy wtedy nie tylko problemów z błędną treścią, ale też treść i forma byłyby ciekawsze (bez naiwnego amatorskiego zestawienia, za to z elementami historycznymi i analitycznymi). W sumie uważam takie listy za szkodliwe. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Henryk_Tannh%C3%A4user" title="Wikipedysta:Henryk Tannhäuser">Henryk Tannhäuser</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Henryk_Tannh%C3%A4user" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Henryk Tannhäuser">...</a>) 14:44, 11 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Henryk Tannh\u00e4user|2018-10-11T12:44:00.000Z|Ciacho5|2018-10-10T19:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-11T12:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Henryk Tannh\u00e4user&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Henryk Tannhäuser|2018-10-11T12:44:00.000Z|Ciacho5|2018-10-10T19:51:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Piotr967|2018-10-10T21:52:00.000Z|Ciacho5|2018-10-10T19:51:00.000Z"></span>hm, jednym z kryt. bycia ency jest obecność w literaturze, filmie itp. Więc to jest istotna info. Tyle, że z głową. Tzn. książka musi być albo ency, albo chociaż ency pisarza. Dlatego podwójnie czerwonolinki (tzn. i książka i jej autor) bym wywalał. natomiast fakt, że ksiązka jest czerwonolinka nie jest przesłanką do wywalenia, o ile autor jest znaczący. Plus wyjątek dla najstarszej publikacji o Drodze, tej z wczesnego średniowiecza. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Piotr967" title="Wikipedysta:Piotr967">Piotr967</a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Piotr967" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Piotr967"><i>podyskutujmy</i></a> 23:52, 10 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Piotr967|2018-10-10T21:52:00.000Z|Ciacho5|2018-10-10T19:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-10T21:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Piotr967&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Piotr967|2018-10-10T21:52:00.000Z|Ciacho5|2018-10-10T19:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ciacho5|2018-10-11T08:12:00.000Z|Ciacho5|2018-10-10T19:51:00.000Z"></span>Nawet gdyby nie znalazło się żadnej ksiązki o Camino, to jest to fenomen z pewnością encyklopedyczny. Problem w tym, że im bardziej ency, tym bardziej obrasta literaturą, która do wkazania encyklopedyczności już nie jest potrzebna. Jeżeli jedyną przesłanką ency jest to, że na podstawie losów jakiegoś szeregowego żołnierza napisano książkę i nakręcono film (jest taki), to w artykule trzeba poświęcić całą sekcję na to, kto jak i kiedy oraz dlaczego opisał. Natomiast wyliczanie wszystkich ksiązek, których akcja dzieje się w Warszawie..... Warto (aczkolwiek nie wiem gdzie) opisać Warszawę Prusa (albo Prusa warszawskiego), ale hamować się trzeba. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Ciacho5" title="Wikipedysta:Ciacho5">Ciacho5</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Ciacho5" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Ciacho5">dyskusja</a>) 10:12, 11 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ciacho5|2018-10-11T08:12:00.000Z|Ciacho5|2018-10-10T19:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-11T08:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ciacho5&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ciacho5|2018-10-11T08:12:00.000Z|Ciacho5|2018-10-10T19:51:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Henryk Tannhäuser|2018-10-11T12:44:00.000Z|Ciacho5|2018-10-10T19:51:00.000Z"></span>Pół z tego co jest w sekcji "literatura" w ogóle nie jest literaturą (np. albumy). Rozdział ten postrzegam więc jako śmietnik powstały na skutek nierozumienia znaczenia słów, których się używa. Wypisywanie na własna rękę pozycji w podpunktach to zresztą chyba OR - każdym razie <i>na pewno</i> jest to <i>praca badawcza</i>. Rozdziały takie mogłyby powstawać na Wiki na podstawie publikacji mówiących o obecności czegoś w literaturze przygotowanych przez specjalistów, na własną rękę jest to amatorska praca własna, i to często bardzo słaba. Nie mielibyśmy wtedy nie tylko problemów z błędną treścią, ale też treść i forma byłyby ciekawsze (bez naiwnego amatorskiego zestawienia, za to z elementami historycznymi i analitycznymi). W sumie uważam takie listy za szkodliwe. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Henryk_Tannh%C3%A4user" title="Wikipedysta:Henryk Tannhäuser">Henryk Tannhäuser</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Henryk_Tannh%C3%A4user" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Henryk Tannhäuser">...</a>) 14:44, 11 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Henryk Tannh\u00e4user|2018-10-11T12:44:00.000Z|Ciacho5|2018-10-10T19:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-11T12:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Henryk Tannh\u00e4user&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Henryk Tannhäuser|2018-10-11T12:44:00.000Z|Ciacho5|2018-10-10T19:51:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Jerzy_Mrozowicki" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Jerzy_Mrozowicki|2018-10-11T20:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|WTM|2018-10-11T20:46:00.000Z|Jerzy_Mrozowicki&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Jerzy_Mrozowicki|2018-10-11T20:46:00.000Z"></span><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerzy_Mrozowicki" title="Jerzy Mrozowicki">Jerzy Mrozowicki</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h|Jerzy_Mrozowicki|2018-10-11T20:46:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|WTM|2018-10-11T20:46:00.000Z|Jerzy_Mrozowicki"></span>Nie daję sobie rady z naprawą błędów w kodzie źródłowym strony. Przykładowo, nie mam pojęcia co autor miał na myśli przez „<tt>podstarosta lwowski w [[1640|1643 roku]][[1645|,]]</tt>” --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:WTM" title="Wikipedysta:WTM">WTM</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:WTM" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:WTM">dyskusja</a>) 22:46, 11 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|WTM|2018-10-11T20:46:00.000Z|Jerzy_Mrozowicki&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Kriis bis|2018-10-12T07:11:00.000Z|WTM|2018-10-11T20:46:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-11T20:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;WTM&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|WTM|2018-10-11T20:46:00.000Z|Jerzy_Mrozowicki"></span>Nie daję sobie rady z naprawą błędów w kodzie źródłowym strony. Przykładowo, nie mam pojęcia co autor miał na myśli przez „<tt>podstarosta lwowski w [[1640|1643 roku]][[1645|,]]</tt>” --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:WTM" title="Wikipedysta:WTM">WTM</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:WTM" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:WTM">dyskusja</a>) 22:46, 11 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|WTM|2018-10-11T20:46:00.000Z|Jerzy_Mrozowicki&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Kriis bis|2018-10-12T07:11:00.000Z|WTM|2018-10-11T20:46:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-11T20:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;WTM&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Kriis bis|2018-10-12T07:11:00.000Z|WTM|2018-10-11T20:46:00.000Z"></span>Wg mnie ta edycja <a class="external autonumber" href="https://pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jerzy_Mrozowicki&amp;diff=54626458&amp;oldid=54346429">[1]</a>, jako nie spełniająca wymagań wikipedii, powinna zostać anulowana. Ale może @<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Mathiasrex" title="Wikipedysta:Mathiasrex">Mathiasrex</a> by pomógł? --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Kriis_bis" title="Wikipedysta:Kriis bis">Kriis bis</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Kriis_bis" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Kriis bis">dyskusja</a>) 09:11, 12 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Kriis bis|2018-10-12T07:11:00.000Z|WTM|2018-10-11T20:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-12T07:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Kriis bis&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Kriis bis|2018-10-12T07:11:00.000Z|WTM|2018-10-11T20:46:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Kriis bis|2018-10-12T07:11:00.000Z|WTM|2018-10-11T20:46:00.000Z"></span>Wg mnie ta edycja <a class="external autonumber" href="https://pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jerzy_Mrozowicki&amp;diff=54626458&amp;oldid=54346429">[1]</a>, jako nie spełniająca wymagań wikipedii, powinna zostać anulowana. Ale może @<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Mathiasrex" title="Wikipedysta:Mathiasrex">Mathiasrex</a> by pomógł? --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Kriis_bis" title="Wikipedysta:Kriis bis">Kriis bis</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Kriis_bis" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Kriis bis">dyskusja</a>) 09:11, 12 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Kriis bis|2018-10-12T07:11:00.000Z|WTM|2018-10-11T20:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-12T07:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Kriis bis&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Kriis bis|2018-10-12T07:11:00.000Z|WTM|2018-10-11T20:46:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
 <h2><span id=".E2.80.9ECyklon_B.E2.80.9D_czy_.E2.80.9Ecyklon_B.E2.80.9D.3F"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="„Cyklon_B”_czy_„cyklon_B”?" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|\u201eCyklon_B\u201d_czy_\u201ecyklon_B\u201d?|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z|\u201eCyklon_B\u201d_czy_\u201ecyklon_B\u201d?&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|„Cyklon_B”_czy_„cyklon_B”?|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span>„Cyklon B” czy „cyklon B”?<span data-mw-comment-end="h|„Cyklon_B”_czy_„cyklon_B”?|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z|„Cyklon_B”_czy_„cyklon_B”?"></span>W rozbudowywanym artykule <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Gerstein" title="Kurt Gerstein">Kurt Gerstein</a> wielokrotnie używana jest nazwa handlowa insektycydu stosowanego przez nazistów w komorach gazowych. Nie jestem pewny, czy nazwę pisać z dużej litery, czy z małej: „Cyklon B” vs. „cyklon B”. Za pierwszą wersją przemawia fakt, że nie jest nazwa własna, ale nazwa handlowa i dlatego powinna być pisana z dużej litery. Proszę o opinie. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Jacek555" title="Wikipedysta:Jacek555">Jacek555</a>  <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Jacek555" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Jacek555">✉</a>  14:50, 6 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z|\u201eCyklon_B\u201d_czy_\u201ecyklon_B\u201d?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Vinsinna|2018-10-06T16:35:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Wostr|2018-10-06T17:18:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Matrek|2018-10-06T17:36:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Dreamcatcher25|2018-10-07T08:20:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Wostr|2018-10-07T16:27:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Gruzin|2018-10-07T16:32:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Les\u0142aw Zimny|2018-10-07T18:00:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Jacek555|2018-10-08T16:33:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Wostr|2018-10-16T17:40:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Jacek555|2018-10-16T17:53:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Jacek555&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z|„Cyklon_B”_czy_„cyklon_B”?"></span>W rozbudowywanym artykule <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Gerstein" title="Kurt Gerstein">Kurt Gerstein</a> wielokrotnie używana jest nazwa handlowa insektycydu stosowanego przez nazistów w komorach gazowych. Nie jestem pewny, czy nazwę pisać z dużej litery, czy z małej: „Cyklon B” vs. „cyklon B”. Za pierwszą wersją przemawia fakt, że nie jest nazwa własna, ale nazwa handlowa i dlatego powinna być pisana z dużej litery. Proszę o opinie. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Jacek555" title="Wikipedysta:Jacek555">Jacek555</a>  <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Jacek555" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Jacek555">✉</a>  14:50, 6 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z|\u201eCyklon_B\u201d_czy_\u201ecyklon_B\u201d?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Vinsinna|2018-10-06T16:35:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Wostr|2018-10-06T17:18:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Matrek|2018-10-06T17:36:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Dreamcatcher25|2018-10-07T08:20:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Wostr|2018-10-07T16:27:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Gruzin|2018-10-07T16:32:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Les\u0142aw Zimny|2018-10-07T18:00:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Jacek555|2018-10-08T16:33:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Wostr|2018-10-16T17:40:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Jacek555|2018-10-16T17:53:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Jacek555&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Vinsinna|2018-10-06T16:35:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span>Ale jeżeli „cyklon”, to „cyklon b”, czyż nie? <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedystka:Vinsinna" title="Wikipedystka:Vinsinna">Vinsinna</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedystki:Vinsinna" title="Dyskusja wikipedystki:Vinsinna">dyskusja</a>) 18:35, 6 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vinsinna|2018-10-06T16:35:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-06T16:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vinsinna&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Vinsinna|2018-10-06T16:35:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Wostr|2018-10-06T17:18:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span>Nie wiem, jak jest w literaturze historycznej. W przypadku pozycji z zakresu broni chemicznej spotyka się obie wersje, przy czym chyba nieco częściej małą literą w pozycjach pisanych oryginalnie w j. polskim, a częściej dużą literą w przypadku tłumaczeń z z j. angielskiego (choć to może być tylko moje wrażenie; na szybko sprawdzone 4 pozycje to potwierdzają, ale to jednak mało, aby wyciągać ogólne wnioski); dodatkowo czasem stosuje się także termin <i>cyklony</i> jako grupy środków trujących. Przy czym zaznaczę, że cyklon B jest raczej na pograniczu tematyki broni chemicznej i w niektórych pozycjach nie jest w ogóle wspominany. Osobiście skłaniałbym się raczej za małą literą; dużą zdecydowanie <i>Zyklon B</i>. <i><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Wostr" title="Wikipedysta:Wostr">Wostr</a></i> <small>(<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Wostr" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Wostr">dyskusja</a>)</small> 19:18, 6 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Wostr|2018-10-06T17:18:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-06T17:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Wostr&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Wostr|2018-10-06T17:18:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matrek|2018-10-06T17:36:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span>To raczej pytanie do Wikiprojektu:Chemia, jak zapisuja nazwy zwiazkow i preparatow chemicznych. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Matrek" title="Wikipedysta:Matrek">Matrek</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Matrek" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Matrek">dyskusja</a>) 19:36, 6 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matrek|2018-10-06T17:36:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-06T17:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matrek&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matrek|2018-10-06T17:36:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Dreamcatcher25|2018-10-07T08:20:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span>Przejrzałem na szybko kilka moich książek o Holocauście. Stosowane są w nich obie formy zapisu, przy czym przeważa raczej mała litera. Tak jak @<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Matrek" title="Wikipedysta:Matrek">Matrek</a> wolałbym jednak, aby wypowiedzieli się spece od nazewnictwa chemicznego.<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Dreamcatcher25" title="Wikipedysta:Dreamcatcher25">Dreamcatcher25</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Dreamcatcher25" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Dreamcatcher25">dyskusja</a>) 10:20, 7 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Dreamcatcher25|2018-10-07T08:20:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Matrek|2018-10-07T16:04:00.000Z|Dreamcatcher25|2018-10-07T08:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Wostr|2018-10-07T11:43:00.000Z|Dreamcatcher25|2018-10-07T08:20:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-07T08:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Dreamcatcher25&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Dreamcatcher25|2018-10-07T08:20:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span><ul><li><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matrek|2018-10-07T16:04:00.000Z|Dreamcatcher25|2018-10-07T08:20:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Dreamcatcher25" title="Wikipedysta:Dreamcatcher25">Dreamcatcher25</a> Tego typu ksiazki raczej nie sa dobrym zrodlem na gramatyke i ortografie. Pisali je ludzie badajacy holocaust, a nie chemicy czy specjalisci od jezyka polskiego. Podobnie jak w ksiazkach o tematyce okretowej, panuje wolnoamerykanka. Raz nazwy okretow zapisywane sa w takiej formie, raz w inny sposob, przez innych zas jeszcze inaczej, jak sie tam ktoremu specjaliscie od statkow wydaje. Ksiazki o holocauscie, inaczej mowiac, sa dobrym zrodlem na holokaust, nie zas na ortografie i interpunkcje. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Matrek" title="Wikipedysta:Matrek">Matrek</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Matrek" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Matrek">dyskusja</a>) 18:04, 7 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matrek|2018-10-07T16:04:00.000Z|Dreamcatcher25|2018-10-07T08:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-07T16:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matrek&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matrek|2018-10-07T16:04:00.000Z|Dreamcatcher25|2018-10-07T08:20:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Wostr|2018-10-07T11:43:00.000Z|Dreamcatcher25|2018-10-07T08:20:00.000Z"></span>Tu nie za bardzo jest o czym mówić od strony chemicznej, bo ta nazwa nijak nie wchodzi w zakres nazewnictwa chemicznego. Jest to spolszczenie nazwy handlowej insektycydu, nie zaś tłumaczenie nazwy chemicznej. W literaturze chemicznej taka nazwa pojawić się może raczej sporadycznie, w specyficznych przypadkach i raczej będzie to jedynie wzmianka, ew. w różnego rodzaju słownikach. Pojawia się nawet niezbyt często w literaturze dot. broni chemicznej, bo cyklon B często nie jest wliczany do broni chemicznej. Ja bym raczej sugerował sprawdzać, jaki jest zapis w literaturze dot. Holokaustu. <i><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Wostr" title="Wikipedysta:Wostr">Wostr</a></i> <small>(<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Wostr" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Wostr">dyskusja</a>)</small> 13:43, 7 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Wostr|2018-10-07T11:43:00.000Z|Dreamcatcher25|2018-10-07T08:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-07T11:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Wostr&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Wostr|2018-10-07T11:43:00.000Z|Dreamcatcher25|2018-10-07T08:20:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Wostr|2018-10-07T16:27:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span>Patrzę teraz na internetowy SJP PWNu i jest tam <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://sjp.pwn.pl/szukaj/cyklon.html">cyklon</a>, zn. 2 <i>środek trujący stosowany do dezynfekcji, dezynsekcji i deratyzacji</i>. Patrząc po korpusach j. pol. to mała litera dominuje, choć wyników jest ogólnie po kilka, kilkanaście. <i><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Wostr" title="Wikipedysta:Wostr">Wostr</a></i> <small>(<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Wostr" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Wostr">dyskusja</a>)</small> 18:27, 7 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Wostr|2018-10-07T16:27:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Matrek|2018-10-07T16:34:00.000Z|Wostr|2018-10-07T16:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Jacek555|2018-10-08T16:33:00.000Z|Wostr|2018-10-07T16:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-07T16:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Wostr&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Wostr|2018-10-07T16:27:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matrek|2018-10-07T16:34:00.000Z|Wostr|2018-10-07T16:27:00.000Z"></span>A moze jednak spojrzec na to od strony zasad ogolnych? Cyklon B to nazwa wlasna, a takie piszemy z duzej litery "FSO Polonez", a nie "fso polonez". Chyba ze nie obowiazje to w przypadku zwiazkow/produktow chemicznych. I dlatego pomyslalem ze Wikiprojekt Chemia bylby dobrym miejscem na to pytanie. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Matrek" title="Wikipedysta:Matrek">Matrek</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Matrek" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Matrek">dyskusja</a>) 18:34, 7 paź 2018 (CEST) P.S. Pytanie powinno przy tym brzmiec "jak zapisujemy nazwy handlowe zwiazkow i produktow chemicznych?", a nie bezposrednio o Cyklon B, bo ten nie moze byc zadnym wyjatkiem w tej mierze. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Matrek" title="Wikipedysta:Matrek">Matrek</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Matrek" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Matrek">dyskusja</a>) 18:45, 7 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matrek|2018-10-07T16:34:00.000Z|Wostr|2018-10-07T16:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Wostr|2018-10-07T16:53:00.000Z|Matrek|2018-10-07T16:34:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-07T16:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matrek&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matrek|2018-10-07T16:34:00.000Z|Wostr|2018-10-07T16:27:00.000Z"></span><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Wostr|2018-10-07T16:53:00.000Z|Matrek|2018-10-07T16:34:00.000Z"></span>Można i pewnie stąd wynika część zapisów dużą literą. Pewnym utrudnieniem jest to, że nie jest to nazwa handlowa (<i>Zyklon B</i>), tylko spolszczenie tej nazwy. To trochę bardziej przypomina nazwy niektórych materiałów wybuchowych, które po czasie zostały po prostu spolszczone i nie są pisane dużą literą, ew. bliższy przykład to trylony (zbiorcza nazwa dla niektórych środków paralityczno-drgawkowych) pochodzące od niemieckich kryptonimów tych substancji (<i>Trilon</i>); także np. freon itp. itd. Tutaj by się przydała opinia językoznawcy, czy spolszczona nazwa handlowa powinna być nadal pisana duża literą. A być może każdy przypadek trzeba rozpatrywać indywidualnie. <i><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Wostr" title="Wikipedysta:Wostr">Wostr</a></i> <small>(<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Wostr" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Wostr">dyskusja</a>)</small> 18:53, 7 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Wostr|2018-10-07T16:53:00.000Z|Matrek|2018-10-07T16:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Vinsinna|2018-10-07T18:49:00.000Z|Wostr|2018-10-07T16:53:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-07T16:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Wostr&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Wostr|2018-10-07T16:53:00.000Z|Matrek|2018-10-07T16:34:00.000Z"></span><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Vinsinna|2018-10-07T18:49:00.000Z|Wostr|2018-10-07T16:53:00.000Z"></span>Taka opinia już istnieje: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.rjp.pan.pl/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=93:definicje-poj-nazwa-wasnaq-nazwa-handlowaq&amp;catid=45&amp;Itemid=55"><b>Nazwa handlowa to prawnie zastrzeżona nazwa</b> firmy, towaru, <b>produktu</b> lub usług (będąca zwykle ich nazwą własną)</a>. IG Farben chyba nie zastrzegało nazwy w formie spolszczonej. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedystka:Vinsinna" title="Wikipedystka:Vinsinna">Vinsinna</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedystki:Vinsinna" title="Dyskusja wikipedystki:Vinsinna">dyskusja</a>) 20:49, 7 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vinsinna|2018-10-07T18:49:00.000Z|Wostr|2018-10-07T16:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-07T18:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vinsinna&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Vinsinna|2018-10-07T18:49:00.000Z|Wostr|2018-10-07T16:53:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Jacek555|2018-10-08T16:33:00.000Z|Wostr|2018-10-07T16:27:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Wostr" title="Wikipedysta:Wostr">Wostr</a>, tak widziałem że cyklon jest z małej litery, ale w korpusie bywa i z dużej i z małej. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Jacek555" title="Wikipedysta:Jacek555">Jacek555</a>  <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Jacek555" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Jacek555">✉</a>  18:33, 8 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Jacek555|2018-10-08T16:33:00.000Z|Wostr|2018-10-07T16:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-08T16:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Jacek555&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Jacek555|2018-10-08T16:33:00.000Z|Wostr|2018-10-07T16:27:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gruzin|2018-10-07T16:32:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span>Ja bym to uznał za nazwę własną/handlową i pisał z dużej. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Gruzin" title="Wikipedysta:Gruzin">Gruzin</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Gruzin" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Gruzin">dyskusja</a>) 18:32, 7 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gruzin|2018-10-07T16:32:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-07T16:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gruzin&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gruzin|2018-10-07T16:32:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Lesław Zimny|2018-10-07T18:00:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span>Wszystkie nazwy środków ochrony roślin (herbicydy, insektycydy, fungicydy itd.) piszemy dużą literą. Również Cyklon powinien być pisany przez duże C - źródło: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.ior.poznan.pl/19,wykaz-srodkow-ochrony-roslin-do-produkcji-ekologicznej.html">https://www.ior.poznan.pl/19,wykaz-srodkow-ochrony-roslin-do-produkcji-ekologicznej.html</a> --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Les%C5%82aw_Zimny" title="Wikipedysta:Lesław Zimny">Lesław Zimny</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Les%C5%82aw_Zimny" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Lesław Zimny">dyskusja</a>) 20:00, 7 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Les\u0142aw Zimny|2018-10-07T18:00:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Alan ffm|2018-10-08T08:01:00.000Z|Les\u0142aw Zimny|2018-10-07T18:00:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-07T18:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Les\u0142aw Zimny&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Lesław Zimny|2018-10-07T18:00:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
-<dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Alan ffm|2018-10-08T08:01:00.000Z|Lesław Zimny|2018-10-07T18:00:00.000Z"></span>Niby tak, z tym że nazwa handlowa tego produktu brzmi "Zyklon B", a ww. określenie to tylko takie sobie tłumaczenie na nasze. Dyskusję należałoby zacząć od pytania pod jaką nazwą powinien być artykuł na ww. temat (-><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyklon_B" title="Cyklon B">Cyklon B</a>). Jak widzę w innych językach nazwa ta nie jest raczej tłumaczona, a odpowiedniki dla "cylkonów" w tych językach też mają i nie brzmią one zazwyczaj "Zyklon".--<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Alan_ffm" title="Wikipedysta:Alan ffm">Alan ffm</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Alan_ffm" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Alan ffm">dyskusja</a>) 10:01, 8 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Alan ffm|2018-10-08T08:01:00.000Z|Les\u0142aw Zimny|2018-10-07T18:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Jacek555|2018-10-08T16:33:00.000Z|Alan ffm|2018-10-08T08:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-08T08:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Alan ffm&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Alan ffm|2018-10-08T08:01:00.000Z|Lesław Zimny|2018-10-07T18:00:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
-<dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Jacek555|2018-10-08T16:33:00.000Z|Alan ffm|2018-10-08T08:01:00.000Z"></span>W literaturze spotyka się wzmianki o „cyklonach” (w rozumieniu pestycydów) – pisane z małej litery, bo oprócz tego z oznaczenie B, były także produkowane „cyklony” z oznaczeniami A-B-C-D-E oraz F. No, a przez analogię, o Fordzie Mustangu piszemy z dużej, ale o różnych fordach z małej. No i oczywiście – zagadnienie dotyczy poprawnej formy, w jakiej winien być zapisywany ten pestycyd we wszystkich artykułach/linkowaniach. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Jacek555" title="Wikipedysta:Jacek555">Jacek555</a>  <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Jacek555" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Jacek555">✉</a>  18:33, 8 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Jacek555|2018-10-08T16:33:00.000Z|Alan ffm|2018-10-08T08:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-08T16:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Jacek555&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Jacek555|2018-10-08T16:33:00.000Z|Alan ffm|2018-10-08T08:01:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Jacek555|2018-10-08T16:33:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span>Na stronie <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pa%C5%84stwowe_Muzeum_Auschwitz-Birkenau_w_O%C5%9Bwi%C4%99cimiu" title="Państwowe Muzeum Auschwitz-Birkenau w Oświęcimiu">Muzeum Auschwitz-Birkenau w Oświęcimiu</a> znajduje się słownik pojęć z zakresu Zagłady i <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://auschwitz.org/media/slownik-pojec/#Cyklon%20B">Cyklon B</a> jest zapisywany z dużej litery. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Jacek555" title="Wikipedysta:Jacek555">Jacek555</a>  <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Jacek555" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Jacek555">✉</a>  18:33, 8 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Jacek555|2018-10-08T16:33:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-08T16:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Jacek555&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Jacek555|2018-10-08T16:33:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Wostr|2018-10-16T17:40:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Jacek555" title="Wikipedysta:Jacek555">Jacek555</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://sjp.pwn.pl/poradnia/haslo/Zapis-nazwy-cyklon-B;18906.html">[2]</a>. <i><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Wostr" title="Wikipedysta:Wostr">Wostr</a></i> <small>(<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Wostr" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Wostr">dyskusja</a>)</small> 19:40, 16 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Wostr|2018-10-16T17:40:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-16T17:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Wostr&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Wostr|2018-10-16T17:40:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Jacek555|2018-10-16T17:53:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span>No i fajnie. Mamy ustalenie :) <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Jacek555" title="Wikipedysta:Jacek555">Jacek555</a>  <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Jacek555" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Jacek555">✉</a>  19:53, 16 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Jacek555|2018-10-16T17:53:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-16T17:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Jacek555&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Jacek555|2018-10-16T17:53:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Vinsinna|2018-10-06T16:35:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span>Ale jeżeli „cyklon”, to „cyklon b”, czyż nie? <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedystka:Vinsinna" title="Wikipedystka:Vinsinna">Vinsinna</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedystki:Vinsinna" title="Dyskusja wikipedystki:Vinsinna">dyskusja</a>) 18:35, 6 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vinsinna|2018-10-06T16:35:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-06T16:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vinsinna&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Vinsinna|2018-10-06T16:35:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Wostr|2018-10-06T17:18:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span>Nie wiem, jak jest w literaturze historycznej. W przypadku pozycji z zakresu broni chemicznej spotyka się obie wersje, przy czym chyba nieco częściej małą literą w pozycjach pisanych oryginalnie w j. polskim, a częściej dużą literą w przypadku tłumaczeń z z j. angielskiego (choć to może być tylko moje wrażenie; na szybko sprawdzone 4 pozycje to potwierdzają, ale to jednak mało, aby wyciągać ogólne wnioski); dodatkowo czasem stosuje się także termin <i>cyklony</i> jako grupy środków trujących. Przy czym zaznaczę, że cyklon B jest raczej na pograniczu tematyki broni chemicznej i w niektórych pozycjach nie jest w ogóle wspominany. Osobiście skłaniałbym się raczej za małą literą; dużą zdecydowanie <i>Zyklon B</i>. <i><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Wostr" title="Wikipedysta:Wostr">Wostr</a></i> <small>(<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Wostr" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Wostr">dyskusja</a>)</small> 19:18, 6 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Wostr|2018-10-06T17:18:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-06T17:18:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Wostr&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Wostr|2018-10-06T17:18:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matrek|2018-10-06T17:36:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span>To raczej pytanie do Wikiprojektu:Chemia, jak zapisuja nazwy zwiazkow i preparatow chemicznych. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Matrek" title="Wikipedysta:Matrek">Matrek</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Matrek" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Matrek">dyskusja</a>) 19:36, 6 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matrek|2018-10-06T17:36:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-06T17:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matrek&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matrek|2018-10-06T17:36:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Dreamcatcher25|2018-10-07T08:20:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span>Przejrzałem na szybko kilka moich książek o Holocauście. Stosowane są w nich obie formy zapisu, przy czym przeważa raczej mała litera. Tak jak @<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Matrek" title="Wikipedysta:Matrek">Matrek</a> wolałbym jednak, aby wypowiedzieli się spece od nazewnictwa chemicznego.<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Dreamcatcher25" title="Wikipedysta:Dreamcatcher25">Dreamcatcher25</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Dreamcatcher25" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Dreamcatcher25">dyskusja</a>) 10:20, 7 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Dreamcatcher25|2018-10-07T08:20:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Matrek|2018-10-07T16:04:00.000Z|Dreamcatcher25|2018-10-07T08:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Wostr|2018-10-07T11:43:00.000Z|Dreamcatcher25|2018-10-07T08:20:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-07T08:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Dreamcatcher25&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Dreamcatcher25|2018-10-07T08:20:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span><ul><li><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matrek|2018-10-07T16:04:00.000Z|Dreamcatcher25|2018-10-07T08:20:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Dreamcatcher25" title="Wikipedysta:Dreamcatcher25">Dreamcatcher25</a> Tego typu ksiazki raczej nie sa dobrym zrodlem na gramatyke i ortografie. Pisali je ludzie badajacy holocaust, a nie chemicy czy specjalisci od jezyka polskiego. Podobnie jak w ksiazkach o tematyce okretowej, panuje wolnoamerykanka. Raz nazwy okretow zapisywane sa w takiej formie, raz w inny sposob, przez innych zas jeszcze inaczej, jak sie tam ktoremu specjaliscie od statkow wydaje. Ksiazki o holocauscie, inaczej mowiac, sa dobrym zrodlem na holokaust, nie zas na ortografie i interpunkcje. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Matrek" title="Wikipedysta:Matrek">Matrek</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Matrek" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Matrek">dyskusja</a>) 18:04, 7 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matrek|2018-10-07T16:04:00.000Z|Dreamcatcher25|2018-10-07T08:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-07T16:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matrek&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matrek|2018-10-07T16:04:00.000Z|Dreamcatcher25|2018-10-07T08:20:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Wostr|2018-10-07T11:43:00.000Z|Dreamcatcher25|2018-10-07T08:20:00.000Z"></span>Tu nie za bardzo jest o czym mówić od strony chemicznej, bo ta nazwa nijak nie wchodzi w zakres nazewnictwa chemicznego. Jest to spolszczenie nazwy handlowej insektycydu, nie zaś tłumaczenie nazwy chemicznej. W literaturze chemicznej taka nazwa pojawić się może raczej sporadycznie, w specyficznych przypadkach i raczej będzie to jedynie wzmianka, ew. w różnego rodzaju słownikach. Pojawia się nawet niezbyt często w literaturze dot. broni chemicznej, bo cyklon B często nie jest wliczany do broni chemicznej. Ja bym raczej sugerował sprawdzać, jaki jest zapis w literaturze dot. Holokaustu. <i><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Wostr" title="Wikipedysta:Wostr">Wostr</a></i> <small>(<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Wostr" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Wostr">dyskusja</a>)</small> 13:43, 7 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Wostr|2018-10-07T11:43:00.000Z|Dreamcatcher25|2018-10-07T08:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-07T11:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Wostr&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Wostr|2018-10-07T11:43:00.000Z|Dreamcatcher25|2018-10-07T08:20:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Wostr|2018-10-07T16:27:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span>Patrzę teraz na internetowy SJP PWNu i jest tam <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://sjp.pwn.pl/szukaj/cyklon.html">cyklon</a>, zn. 2 <i>środek trujący stosowany do dezynfekcji, dezynsekcji i deratyzacji</i>. Patrząc po korpusach j. pol. to mała litera dominuje, choć wyników jest ogólnie po kilka, kilkanaście. <i><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Wostr" title="Wikipedysta:Wostr">Wostr</a></i> <small>(<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Wostr" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Wostr">dyskusja</a>)</small> 18:27, 7 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Wostr|2018-10-07T16:27:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Matrek|2018-10-07T16:34:00.000Z|Wostr|2018-10-07T16:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Jacek555|2018-10-08T16:33:00.000Z|Wostr|2018-10-07T16:27:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-07T16:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Wostr&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Wostr|2018-10-07T16:27:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matrek|2018-10-07T16:34:00.000Z|Wostr|2018-10-07T16:27:00.000Z"></span>A moze jednak spojrzec na to od strony zasad ogolnych? Cyklon B to nazwa wlasna, a takie piszemy z duzej litery "FSO Polonez", a nie "fso polonez". Chyba ze nie obowiazje to w przypadku zwiazkow/produktow chemicznych. I dlatego pomyslalem ze Wikiprojekt Chemia bylby dobrym miejscem na to pytanie. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Matrek" title="Wikipedysta:Matrek">Matrek</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Matrek" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Matrek">dyskusja</a>) 18:34, 7 paź 2018 (CEST) P.S. Pytanie powinno przy tym brzmiec "jak zapisujemy nazwy handlowe zwiazkow i produktow chemicznych?", a nie bezposrednio o Cyklon B, bo ten nie moze byc zadnym wyjatkiem w tej mierze. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Matrek" title="Wikipedysta:Matrek">Matrek</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Matrek" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Matrek">dyskusja</a>) 18:45, 7 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matrek|2018-10-07T16:34:00.000Z|Wostr|2018-10-07T16:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Wostr|2018-10-07T16:53:00.000Z|Matrek|2018-10-07T16:34:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-07T16:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matrek&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matrek|2018-10-07T16:34:00.000Z|Wostr|2018-10-07T16:27:00.000Z"></span><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Wostr|2018-10-07T16:53:00.000Z|Matrek|2018-10-07T16:34:00.000Z"></span>Można i pewnie stąd wynika część zapisów dużą literą. Pewnym utrudnieniem jest to, że nie jest to nazwa handlowa (<i>Zyklon B</i>), tylko spolszczenie tej nazwy. To trochę bardziej przypomina nazwy niektórych materiałów wybuchowych, które po czasie zostały po prostu spolszczone i nie są pisane dużą literą, ew. bliższy przykład to trylony (zbiorcza nazwa dla niektórych środków paralityczno-drgawkowych) pochodzące od niemieckich kryptonimów tych substancji (<i>Trilon</i>); także np. freon itp. itd. Tutaj by się przydała opinia językoznawcy, czy spolszczona nazwa handlowa powinna być nadal pisana duża literą. A być może każdy przypadek trzeba rozpatrywać indywidualnie. <i><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Wostr" title="Wikipedysta:Wostr">Wostr</a></i> <small>(<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Wostr" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Wostr">dyskusja</a>)</small> 18:53, 7 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Wostr|2018-10-07T16:53:00.000Z|Matrek|2018-10-07T16:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Vinsinna|2018-10-07T18:49:00.000Z|Wostr|2018-10-07T16:53:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-07T16:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Wostr&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Wostr|2018-10-07T16:53:00.000Z|Matrek|2018-10-07T16:34:00.000Z"></span><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Vinsinna|2018-10-07T18:49:00.000Z|Wostr|2018-10-07T16:53:00.000Z"></span>Taka opinia już istnieje: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.rjp.pan.pl/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=93:definicje-poj-nazwa-wasnaq-nazwa-handlowaq&amp;catid=45&amp;Itemid=55"><b>Nazwa handlowa to prawnie zastrzeżona nazwa</b> firmy, towaru, <b>produktu</b> lub usług (będąca zwykle ich nazwą własną)</a>. IG Farben chyba nie zastrzegało nazwy w formie spolszczonej. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedystka:Vinsinna" title="Wikipedystka:Vinsinna">Vinsinna</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedystki:Vinsinna" title="Dyskusja wikipedystki:Vinsinna">dyskusja</a>) 20:49, 7 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vinsinna|2018-10-07T18:49:00.000Z|Wostr|2018-10-07T16:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-07T18:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vinsinna&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Vinsinna|2018-10-07T18:49:00.000Z|Wostr|2018-10-07T16:53:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Jacek555|2018-10-08T16:33:00.000Z|Wostr|2018-10-07T16:27:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Wostr" title="Wikipedysta:Wostr">Wostr</a>, tak widziałem że cyklon jest z małej litery, ale w korpusie bywa i z dużej i z małej. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Jacek555" title="Wikipedysta:Jacek555">Jacek555</a>  <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Jacek555" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Jacek555">✉</a>  18:33, 8 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Jacek555|2018-10-08T16:33:00.000Z|Wostr|2018-10-07T16:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-08T16:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Jacek555&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Jacek555|2018-10-08T16:33:00.000Z|Wostr|2018-10-07T16:27:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gruzin|2018-10-07T16:32:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span>Ja bym to uznał za nazwę własną/handlową i pisał z dużej. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Gruzin" title="Wikipedysta:Gruzin">Gruzin</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Gruzin" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Gruzin">dyskusja</a>) 18:32, 7 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Gruzin|2018-10-07T16:32:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-07T16:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Gruzin&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gruzin|2018-10-07T16:32:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Lesław Zimny|2018-10-07T18:00:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span>Wszystkie nazwy środków ochrony roślin (herbicydy, insektycydy, fungicydy itd.) piszemy dużą literą. Również Cyklon powinien być pisany przez duże C - źródło: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.ior.poznan.pl/19,wykaz-srodkow-ochrony-roslin-do-produkcji-ekologicznej.html">https://www.ior.poznan.pl/19,wykaz-srodkow-ochrony-roslin-do-produkcji-ekologicznej.html</a> --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Les%C5%82aw_Zimny" title="Wikipedysta:Lesław Zimny">Lesław Zimny</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Les%C5%82aw_Zimny" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Lesław Zimny">dyskusja</a>) 20:00, 7 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Les\u0142aw Zimny|2018-10-07T18:00:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Alan ffm|2018-10-08T08:01:00.000Z|Les\u0142aw Zimny|2018-10-07T18:00:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-07T18:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Les\u0142aw Zimny&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Lesław Zimny|2018-10-07T18:00:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Alan ffm|2018-10-08T08:01:00.000Z|Lesław Zimny|2018-10-07T18:00:00.000Z"></span>Niby tak, z tym że nazwa handlowa tego produktu brzmi "Zyklon B", a ww. określenie to tylko takie sobie tłumaczenie na nasze. Dyskusję należałoby zacząć od pytania pod jaką nazwą powinien być artykuł na ww. temat (-><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyklon_B" title="Cyklon B">Cyklon B</a>). Jak widzę w innych językach nazwa ta nie jest raczej tłumaczona, a odpowiedniki dla "cylkonów" w tych językach też mają i nie brzmią one zazwyczaj "Zyklon".--<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Alan_ffm" title="Wikipedysta:Alan ffm">Alan ffm</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Alan_ffm" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Alan ffm">dyskusja</a>) 10:01, 8 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Alan ffm|2018-10-08T08:01:00.000Z|Les\u0142aw Zimny|2018-10-07T18:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Jacek555|2018-10-08T16:33:00.000Z|Alan ffm|2018-10-08T08:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-08T08:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Alan ffm&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Alan ffm|2018-10-08T08:01:00.000Z|Lesław Zimny|2018-10-07T18:00:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Jacek555|2018-10-08T16:33:00.000Z|Alan ffm|2018-10-08T08:01:00.000Z"></span>W literaturze spotyka się wzmianki o „cyklonach” (w rozumieniu pestycydów) – pisane z małej litery, bo oprócz tego z oznaczenie B, były także produkowane „cyklony” z oznaczeniami A-B-C-D-E oraz F. No, a przez analogię, o Fordzie Mustangu piszemy z dużej, ale o różnych fordach z małej. No i oczywiście – zagadnienie dotyczy poprawnej formy, w jakiej winien być zapisywany ten pestycyd we wszystkich artykułach/linkowaniach. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Jacek555" title="Wikipedysta:Jacek555">Jacek555</a>  <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Jacek555" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Jacek555">✉</a>  18:33, 8 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Jacek555|2018-10-08T16:33:00.000Z|Alan ffm|2018-10-08T08:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-08T16:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Jacek555&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Jacek555|2018-10-08T16:33:00.000Z|Alan ffm|2018-10-08T08:01:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Jacek555|2018-10-08T16:33:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span>Na stronie <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pa%C5%84stwowe_Muzeum_Auschwitz-Birkenau_w_O%C5%9Bwi%C4%99cimiu" title="Państwowe Muzeum Auschwitz-Birkenau w Oświęcimiu">Muzeum Auschwitz-Birkenau w Oświęcimiu</a> znajduje się słownik pojęć z zakresu Zagłady i <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://auschwitz.org/media/slownik-pojec/#Cyklon%20B">Cyklon B</a> jest zapisywany z dużej litery. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Jacek555" title="Wikipedysta:Jacek555">Jacek555</a>  <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Jacek555" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Jacek555">✉</a>  18:33, 8 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Jacek555|2018-10-08T16:33:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-08T16:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Jacek555&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Jacek555|2018-10-08T16:33:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Wostr|2018-10-16T17:40:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Jacek555" title="Wikipedysta:Jacek555">Jacek555</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://sjp.pwn.pl/poradnia/haslo/Zapis-nazwy-cyklon-B;18906.html">[2]</a>. <i><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Wostr" title="Wikipedysta:Wostr">Wostr</a></i> <small>(<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Wostr" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Wostr">dyskusja</a>)</small> 19:40, 16 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Wostr|2018-10-16T17:40:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-16T17:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Wostr&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Wostr|2018-10-16T17:40:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Jacek555|2018-10-16T17:53:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span>No i fajnie. Mamy ustalenie :) <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Jacek555" title="Wikipedysta:Jacek555">Jacek555</a>  <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Jacek555" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Jacek555">✉</a>  19:53, 16 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Jacek555|2018-10-16T17:53:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-16T17:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Jacek555&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Jacek555|2018-10-16T17:53:00.000Z|Jacek555|2018-10-06T12:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id="Przypisy_do_ebook.C3.B3w._Co_z_numerami_stron.3F"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Przypisy_do_ebooków._Co_z_numerami_stron?" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Przypisy_do_ebook\u00f3w._Co_z_numerami_stron?|2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z|Przypisy_do_ebook\u00f3w._Co_z_numerami_stron?&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Przypisy_do_ebooków._Co_z_numerami_stron?|2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z"></span>Przypisy do ebooków. Co z numerami stron?<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Przypisy_do_ebooków._Co_z_numerami_stron?|2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z|Przypisy_do_ebooków._Co_z_numerami_stron?"></span>Mam sporo ebooków i czasem chciałbym wstawić przypis do ebooka. Niestety ebooki nie mają numerów stron. Czy w związku z tym mogę wstawić przypis do ebooka bez numeru stron? Czy można podać jakiś inny identyfikator? Niektóre programy wyświetlają coś takiego jak "loc", np. przy otwarciu Calibre wyświetla się coś takiego. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Pawelmhm" title="Wikipedysta:Pawelmhm">pawelmxm</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Pawelmhm" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Pawelmhm">dyskusja</a>) 12:55, 16 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z|Przypisy_do_ebook\u00f3w._Co_z_numerami_stron?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ironupiwada|2018-10-16T11:30:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T12:01:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Tomasz Raburski|2018-10-16T12:14:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Ciacho5|2018-10-16T13:48:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pawelmhm&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z|Przypisy_do_ebooków._Co_z_numerami_stron?"></span>Mam sporo ebooków i czasem chciałbym wstawić przypis do ebooka. Niestety ebooki nie mają numerów stron. Czy w związku z tym mogę wstawić przypis do ebooka bez numeru stron? Czy można podać jakiś inny identyfikator? Niektóre programy wyświetlają coś takiego jak "loc", np. przy otwarciu Calibre wyświetla się coś takiego. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Pawelmhm" title="Wikipedysta:Pawelmhm">pawelmxm</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Pawelmhm" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Pawelmhm">dyskusja</a>) 12:55, 16 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z|Przypisy_do_ebook\u00f3w._Co_z_numerami_stron?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ironupiwada|2018-10-16T11:30:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T12:01:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Tomasz Raburski|2018-10-16T12:14:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Ciacho5|2018-10-16T13:48:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pawelmhm&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ironupiwada|2018-10-16T11:30:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z"></span>Jeśli mowa o ebookach czytanych przez Calibre, radziłbym cytować książki elektroniczne za pomocą szablonu <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szablon:Cytuj" title="Szablon:Cytuj">Cytuj</a>. W polu "s" (lub "strony") wpisujemy akapit (np. akapit 4.22), a także określamy typ nośnika (np. EPUB). Dosłowny cytat z danej książki w parametrze "cytat" również mógłby pomóc zweryfikować jej treść. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Ironupiwada" title="Wikipedysta:Ironupiwada">Ironupiwada</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Ironupiwada" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Ironupiwada">dyskusja</a>) 13:30, 16 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ironupiwada|2018-10-16T11:30:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-16T11:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ironupiwada&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ironupiwada|2018-10-16T11:30:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T12:01:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Ironupiwada" title="Wikipedysta:Ironupiwada">Ironupiwada</a> tak chodzi mi o Calibre, bardzo dziękuje za informacje! <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Pawelmhm" title="Wikipedysta:Pawelmhm">pawelmxm</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Pawelmhm" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Pawelmhm">dyskusja</a>) 14:01, 16 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T12:01:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-16T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pawelmhm&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T12:01:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Tomasz Raburski|2018-10-16T12:14:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z"></span>Też mam ten problem. W ostateczności podaję podrozdziałami. Problemem są: książki w legimi (mają własny system - 200 słów na stronę) i inne epuby/mobi. Nie chcę instalować Callibre tylko po to, by móc sprawdzić jaki jest numer akapitu. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Tomasz_Raburski" title="Wikipedysta:Tomasz Raburski">Tomasz Raburski</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Tomasz_Raburski" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Tomasz Raburski">dyskusja</a>) 14:14, 16 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Tomasz Raburski|2018-10-16T12:14:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-16T12:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Tomasz Raburski&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Tomasz Raburski|2018-10-16T12:14:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ciacho5|2018-10-16T13:48:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z"></span>A co z systemem strona 104/345, gdzie drugi numer jest całkowitą liczbą stron? Mi sie to wyświetla pod tekstem/ <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Ciacho5" title="Wikipedysta:Ciacho5">Ciacho5</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Ciacho5" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Ciacho5">dyskusja</a>) 15:48, 16 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ciacho5|2018-10-16T13:48:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ironupiwada|2018-10-16T14:57:00.000Z|Ciacho5|2018-10-16T13:48:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-16T13:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ciacho5&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ciacho5|2018-10-16T13:48:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ironupiwada|2018-10-16T14:57:00.000Z|Ciacho5|2018-10-16T13:48:00.000Z"></span>Problem polega na tym, że całkowita liczba stron na czytniku może być generowana w zależności od kroju i rozmiaru czcionki (ja tak przynajmniej mam na swoim). U nas na uniwersytecie radzono, żeby zliczyć wzór –> aktualna strona/liczba przeczytanych stron i procentowy wynik działania wpisać jako lokację. Oczywiście jest to bardzo niewygodne rozwiązanie, mniej niezawodne od cytowania książki drukowanej. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Ironupiwada" title="Wikipedysta:Ironupiwada">Ironupiwada</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Ironupiwada" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Ironupiwada">dyskusja</a>) 16:57, 16 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ironupiwada|2018-10-16T14:57:00.000Z|Ciacho5|2018-10-16T13:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ciacho5|2018-10-17T06:56:00.000Z|Ironupiwada|2018-10-16T14:57:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-16T14:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ironupiwada&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ironupiwada|2018-10-16T14:57:00.000Z|Ciacho5|2018-10-16T13:48:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ciacho5|2018-10-17T06:56:00.000Z|Ironupiwada|2018-10-16T14:57:00.000Z"></span>A tego nie wiedziałem. "Mój" sposób właśnie to podaje, tylko bez procentów (<small>żeby dla dzieci, matek karmiących i abstynentów było)</small>. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Ciacho5" title="Wikipedysta:Ciacho5">Ciacho5</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Ciacho5" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Ciacho5">dyskusja</a>) 08:56, 17 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ciacho5|2018-10-17T06:56:00.000Z|Ironupiwada|2018-10-16T14:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-17T06:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ciacho5&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ciacho5|2018-10-17T06:56:00.000Z|Ironupiwada|2018-10-16T14:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></li></ul>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ironupiwada|2018-10-16T11:30:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z"></span>Jeśli mowa o ebookach czytanych przez Calibre, radziłbym cytować książki elektroniczne za pomocą szablonu <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szablon:Cytuj" title="Szablon:Cytuj">Cytuj</a>. W polu "s" (lub "strony") wpisujemy akapit (np. akapit 4.22), a także określamy typ nośnika (np. EPUB). Dosłowny cytat z danej książki w parametrze "cytat" również mógłby pomóc zweryfikować jej treść. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Ironupiwada" title="Wikipedysta:Ironupiwada">Ironupiwada</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Ironupiwada" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Ironupiwada">dyskusja</a>) 13:30, 16 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ironupiwada|2018-10-16T11:30:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-16T11:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ironupiwada&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ironupiwada|2018-10-16T11:30:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T12:01:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Ironupiwada" title="Wikipedysta:Ironupiwada">Ironupiwada</a> tak chodzi mi o Calibre, bardzo dziękuje za informacje! <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Pawelmhm" title="Wikipedysta:Pawelmhm">pawelmxm</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Pawelmhm" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Pawelmhm">dyskusja</a>) 14:01, 16 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T12:01:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-16T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pawelmhm&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T12:01:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Tomasz Raburski|2018-10-16T12:14:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z"></span>Też mam ten problem. W ostateczności podaję podrozdziałami. Problemem są: książki w legimi (mają własny system - 200 słów na stronę) i inne epuby/mobi. Nie chcę instalować Callibre tylko po to, by móc sprawdzić jaki jest numer akapitu. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Tomasz_Raburski" title="Wikipedysta:Tomasz Raburski">Tomasz Raburski</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Tomasz_Raburski" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Tomasz Raburski">dyskusja</a>) 14:14, 16 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Tomasz Raburski|2018-10-16T12:14:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-16T12:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Tomasz Raburski&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Tomasz Raburski|2018-10-16T12:14:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ciacho5|2018-10-16T13:48:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z"></span>A co z systemem strona 104/345, gdzie drugi numer jest całkowitą liczbą stron? Mi sie to wyświetla pod tekstem/ <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Ciacho5" title="Wikipedysta:Ciacho5">Ciacho5</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Ciacho5" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Ciacho5">dyskusja</a>) 15:48, 16 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ciacho5|2018-10-16T13:48:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ironupiwada|2018-10-16T14:57:00.000Z|Ciacho5|2018-10-16T13:48:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-16T13:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ciacho5&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ciacho5|2018-10-16T13:48:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-16T10:55:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ironupiwada|2018-10-16T14:57:00.000Z|Ciacho5|2018-10-16T13:48:00.000Z"></span>Problem polega na tym, że całkowita liczba stron na czytniku może być generowana w zależności od kroju i rozmiaru czcionki (ja tak przynajmniej mam na swoim). U nas na uniwersytecie radzono, żeby zliczyć wzór –> aktualna strona/liczba przeczytanych stron i procentowy wynik działania wpisać jako lokację. Oczywiście jest to bardzo niewygodne rozwiązanie, mniej niezawodne od cytowania książki drukowanej. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Ironupiwada" title="Wikipedysta:Ironupiwada">Ironupiwada</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Ironupiwada" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Ironupiwada">dyskusja</a>) 16:57, 16 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ironupiwada|2018-10-16T14:57:00.000Z|Ciacho5|2018-10-16T13:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ciacho5|2018-10-17T06:56:00.000Z|Ironupiwada|2018-10-16T14:57:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-16T14:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ironupiwada&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ironupiwada|2018-10-16T14:57:00.000Z|Ciacho5|2018-10-16T13:48:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ciacho5|2018-10-17T06:56:00.000Z|Ironupiwada|2018-10-16T14:57:00.000Z"></span>A tego nie wiedziałem. "Mój" sposób właśnie to podaje, tylko bez procentów (<small>żeby dla dzieci, matek karmiących i abstynentów było)</small>. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Ciacho5" title="Wikipedysta:Ciacho5">Ciacho5</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Ciacho5" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Ciacho5">dyskusja</a>) 08:56, 17 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ciacho5|2018-10-17T06:56:00.000Z|Ironupiwada|2018-10-16T14:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-17T06:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ciacho5&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ciacho5|2018-10-17T06:56:00.000Z|Ironupiwada|2018-10-16T14:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></li></ul>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Nazewnictwo_planetoid" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Nazewnictwo_planetoid|2018-10-17T06:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|G\u017cdacz|2018-10-17T06:39:00.000Z|Nazewnictwo_planetoid&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Nazewnictwo_planetoid|2018-10-17T06:39:00.000Z"></span>Nazewnictwo planetoid<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Nazewnictwo_planetoid|2018-10-17T06:39:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gżdacz|2018-10-17T06:39:00.000Z|Nazewnictwo_planetoid"></span>Dokonałem <a class="external text" href="https://pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2015_TG387&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=54714232&amp;diffmode=source">zmiany</a> w dzisiejszym artykule z CzW, doprowadzając do zgodności ze źródłem i naszym własnym artykułem o nazewnictwie planetoid. Jednak źródła tylko podają metodę liczenia, a nie wynik. Sam wynik wydaje mi się absurdalnie duży. Może niech ktoś na to zerknie, w szczególności sam autor @<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Micha%C5%82_Rosa" title="Wikipedysta:Michał Rosa">Michał Rosa</a>. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:G%C5%BCdacz" title="Wikipedysta:Gżdacz">Gżdacz</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:G%C5%BCdacz" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Gżdacz">dyskusja</a>) 08:39, 17 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|G\u017cdacz|2018-10-17T06:39:00.000Z|Nazewnictwo_planetoid&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Micha\u0142 Rosa|2018-10-17T07:16:00.000Z|G\u017cdacz|2018-10-17T06:39:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-17T06:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;G\u017cdacz&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gżdacz|2018-10-17T06:39:00.000Z|Nazewnictwo_planetoid"></span>Dokonałem <a class="external text" href="https://pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2015_TG387&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=54714232&amp;diffmode=source">zmiany</a> w dzisiejszym artykule z CzW, doprowadzając do zgodności ze źródłem i naszym własnym artykułem o nazewnictwie planetoid. Jednak źródła tylko podają metodę liczenia, a nie wynik. Sam wynik wydaje mi się absurdalnie duży. Może niech ktoś na to zerknie, w szczególności sam autor @<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Micha%C5%82_Rosa" title="Wikipedysta:Michał Rosa">Michał Rosa</a>. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:G%C5%BCdacz" title="Wikipedysta:Gżdacz">Gżdacz</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:G%C5%BCdacz" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Gżdacz">dyskusja</a>) 08:39, 17 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|G\u017cdacz|2018-10-17T06:39:00.000Z|Nazewnictwo_planetoid&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Micha\u0142 Rosa|2018-10-17T07:16:00.000Z|G\u017cdacz|2018-10-17T06:39:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-17T06:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;G\u017cdacz&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Michał Rosa|2018-10-17T07:16:00.000Z|Gżdacz|2018-10-17T06:39:00.000Z"></span>Dziękuję za poprawienie wyliczenia.  W wyniku nie ma nic dziwnego, ani "absurdalnego", około dziesięciu tysięcy odkryć w jednym okresie <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.minorplanetcenter.org/iau/lists/Desigs.html">to nic dziwnego</a>.  <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Micha%C5%82_Rosa" title="Wikipedysta:Michał Rosa">Michał Rosa</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Micha%C5%82_Rosa" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Michał Rosa">dyskusja</a>) 09:16, 17 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Micha\u0142 Rosa|2018-10-17T07:16:00.000Z|G\u017cdacz|2018-10-17T06:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-17T07:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Micha\u0142 Rosa&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Michał Rosa|2018-10-17T07:16:00.000Z|Gżdacz|2018-10-17T06:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Michał Rosa|2018-10-17T07:16:00.000Z|Gżdacz|2018-10-17T06:39:00.000Z"></span>Dziękuję za poprawienie wyliczenia.  W wyniku nie ma nic dziwnego, ani "absurdalnego", około dziesięciu tysięcy odkryć w jednym okresie <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.minorplanetcenter.org/iau/lists/Desigs.html">to nic dziwnego</a>.  <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Micha%C5%82_Rosa" title="Wikipedysta:Michał Rosa">Michał Rosa</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Micha%C5%82_Rosa" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Michał Rosa">dyskusja</a>) 09:16, 17 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Micha\u0142 Rosa|2018-10-17T07:16:00.000Z|G\u017cdacz|2018-10-17T06:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-17T07:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Micha\u0142 Rosa&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Michał Rosa|2018-10-17T07:16:00.000Z|Gżdacz|2018-10-17T06:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id="Czy_ten_szablon_powinien_istnie.C4.87.3F"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Czy_ten_szablon_powinien_istnieć?" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Czy_ten_szablon_powinien_istnie\u0107?|2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Piotr967|2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z|Czy_ten_szablon_powinien_istnie\u0107?&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Czy_ten_szablon_powinien_istnieć?|2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z"></span>Czy ten szablon powinien istnieć?<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Czy_ten_szablon_powinien_istnieć?|2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><kbd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Piotr967|2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z|Czy_ten_szablon_powinien_istnieć?"></span>{{<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Szablon:Agatowa_Stolica_Polski&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Szablon:Agatowa Stolica Polski (strona nie istnieje)">Agatowa Stolica Polski</a>}}</kbd> wstawiany np. tutaj (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specjalna:Diff/54673575" title="Specjalna:Diff/54673575">specjalna:diff/54673575</a>). Zupełnie nie znam się na szablonach i zasadach ich ency lub użyteczności. Dlatego tutaj pytam. Merytorycznie nie widzę co ów szablon wnosi, jest wg mnie jedynie chwytnym sloganem reklamowym używanym do promocji miasta i imprezy Lwów. Lato Agatowe. A reklama to chyba nie cel wiki? @<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Bobek321" title="Wikipedysta:Bobek321">Bobek321</a> do autora, by wiedział o dyskusji --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Piotr967" title="Wikipedysta:Piotr967">Piotr967</a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Piotr967" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Piotr967"><i>podyskutujmy</i></a> 19:25, 11 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Piotr967|2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z|Czy_ten_szablon_powinien_istnie\u0107?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Bobek321|2018-10-12T11:17:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Ented|2018-10-15T22:47:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Bobek321|2018-10-17T19:08:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Malarz pl|2018-10-17T19:49:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Piotr967&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><kbd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Piotr967|2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z|Czy_ten_szablon_powinien_istnieć?"></span>{{<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Szablon:Agatowa_Stolica_Polski&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Szablon:Agatowa Stolica Polski (strona nie istnieje)">Agatowa Stolica Polski</a>}}</kbd> wstawiany np. tutaj (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specjalna:Diff/54673575" title="Specjalna:Diff/54673575">specjalna:diff/54673575</a>). Zupełnie nie znam się na szablonach i zasadach ich ency lub użyteczności. Dlatego tutaj pytam. Merytorycznie nie widzę co ów szablon wnosi, jest wg mnie jedynie chwytnym sloganem reklamowym używanym do promocji miasta i imprezy Lwów. Lato Agatowe. A reklama to chyba nie cel wiki? @<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Bobek321" title="Wikipedysta:Bobek321">Bobek321</a> do autora, by wiedział o dyskusji --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Piotr967" title="Wikipedysta:Piotr967">Piotr967</a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Piotr967" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Piotr967"><i>podyskutujmy</i></a> 19:25, 11 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Piotr967|2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z|Czy_ten_szablon_powinien_istnie\u0107?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Bobek321|2018-10-12T11:17:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Ented|2018-10-15T22:47:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Bobek321|2018-10-17T19:08:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Malarz pl|2018-10-17T19:49:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Piotr967&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bobek321|2018-10-12T11:17:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Piotr967" title="Wikipedysta:Piotr967">Piotr967</a> Moim zamysłem było zgromadzenie w jedno miejsce tematyki zw. z LLA, może użyłem nieodpowiednich słów, w każdym razie chciałem zebrać tę tematykę w jednym szablonie. Jeśli jest nieodpowiedni to czy można go przekształcić w taki sposób by był zgodny ze standardami strony? Jeśli nie ma możliwości reformy to w takim przypadku szablon spotka niechybny koniec. Proszę o jakieś rozwiązanie/a. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Bobek321" title="Wikipedysta:Bobek321">Bobek321</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Bobek321" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Bobek321">dyskusja</a>) 13:17, 12 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bobek321|2018-10-12T11:17:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Piotr967|2018-10-12T18:22:00.000Z|Bobek321|2018-10-12T11:17:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-12T11:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bobek321&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bobek321|2018-10-12T11:17:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Piotr967|2018-10-12T18:22:00.000Z|Bobek321|2018-10-12T11:17:00.000Z"></span>Wolałbym by inni coś doradzili, bo ja mam zero wiedzy o uzusach w/s szablonów. Oprócz w/w zastanawiam się np. czy w szablonie winien być link do <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Agatusy&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Agatusy (strona nie istnieje)">Agatusy</a>, skoro to nie jest hasło, a tylko sekcja w haśle o LLA. Z kolei szablon w haśle <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agat" title="Agat">agat</a> wygląda mi dość polonocentrycznie - trudno uznać by dla tego tematu promocja jednego rejonu czy imprezy była faktycznie zasadna. Mimo wszystko złóż agatów na świecie jest jak mrówków i lwówieckie nie są z perspektywy globalnej jakoś niesamowite. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Piotr967" title="Wikipedysta:Piotr967">Piotr967</a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Piotr967" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Piotr967"><i>podyskutujmy</i></a> 20:22, 12 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Piotr967|2018-10-12T18:22:00.000Z|Bobek321|2018-10-12T11:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Kenraiz|2018-10-12T18:51:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-12T18:22:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-12T18:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Piotr967&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Piotr967|2018-10-12T18:22:00.000Z|Bobek321|2018-10-12T11:17:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Kenraiz|2018-10-12T18:51:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-12T18:22:00.000Z"></span>Na pewno wzajemne splątanie tego szablonu z artykułem <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agat" title="Agat">Agat</a> jest nie na miejscu (artykuły dot. zagadnień lokalnych i hasło o ogólnym znaczeniu). Szablony nawigacyjne są użyteczne, gdy grupują według logicznego klucza artykuły, które rozproszone są w kategoryzacji. Pozostałe artykuły (poza Agatusami) wygodnie mieć zestawione razem w szablonie, choć po uszczupleniu ich liczby nie wiem czy nie wystarczyłoby wzajemne linkowanie w artykułach, ew. sekcja "Zobacz też". <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Kenraiz" title="Wikipedysta:Kenraiz">Kenraiz</a> <small>(<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Kenraiz" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Kenraiz">dyskusja</a>)</small> 20:51, 12 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Kenraiz|2018-10-12T18:51:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-12T18:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-12T18:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Kenraiz&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Kenraiz|2018-10-12T18:51:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-12T18:22:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ented|2018-10-15T22:47:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z"></span>Cel istnienia szablonów, to grupowanie haseł poza/ponad systemem kategoryzacyjnym, natomiast jego nazwa "Agatowa Stolica Polski - Lwówek Śląski" jest zdecydowanie nadużyciem – zwrotem nie tylko reklamowym, co czysto publicystycznym (slangiem turystycznym), tabloidowym i imo do zmiany (jeżeli sam szablon miałby się uchować. Podobnie jak Kenraiz: szablon należy uszczuplić o hasła ogólne, a pozostawić tylko te, które są ściśle związane z lokalnymi wydarzeniami. Również nieprawidłowo (co zauważył Piotr967) umieszczony jest w szablonie link do jednej części (nagłówka) hasła gdy hasło to jest powtórnie zlinkowane w tym samym szablonie – to "pompowanie" szablonu na siłę. Po oczyszczeniu szablonu zostałyby w nim 4 elementy (w tym jeden czerwonolinkowy). @<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Piotr967" title="Wikipedysta:Piotr967">Piotr967</a> szablony również podlegają DNU. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Ented" title="Wikipedysta:Ented">Ented</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Ented" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Ented">dyskusja</a>) 00:47, 16 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ented|2018-10-15T22:47:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-15T22:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ented&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ented|2018-10-15T22:47:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bobek321|2018-10-17T19:08:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z"></span>Poprawiłem nieco ten szablon. Mam nadzieję, że teraz jest ok. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Bobek321" title="Wikipedysta:Bobek321">Bobek321</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Bobek321" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Bobek321">dyskusja</a>) 21:08, 17 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bobek321|2018-10-17T19:08:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Piotr967|2018-10-17T19:25:00.000Z|Bobek321|2018-10-17T19:08:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-17T19:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bobek321&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bobek321|2018-10-17T19:08:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Piotr967|2018-10-17T19:25:00.000Z|Bobek321|2018-10-17T19:08:00.000Z"></span>No niezbyt OK, bo on ma teraz dwie nazwy, w dodatku nowa "Agaty w Lwówku Śląskim" jest wg mnie błędna - we Lwówku agaty nie występują, są w Płóczkach, Lubiechowej, Różanej, Nw. Kościele, więc blisko, ale zdecydowanie poza miastem czy jego bezpośrednim otoczeniem. Przyjrzę się i może wpadnę na lepszą nazwę. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Piotr967" title="Wikipedysta:Piotr967">Piotr967</a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Piotr967" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Piotr967"><i>podyskutujmy</i></a> 21:25, 17 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Piotr967|2018-10-17T19:25:00.000Z|Bobek321|2018-10-17T19:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-17T19:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Piotr967&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Piotr967|2018-10-17T19:25:00.000Z|Bobek321|2018-10-17T19:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Malarz pl|2018-10-17T19:49:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z"></span>IMO szablon ma wątpliwe kryteria doboru artykułów. Jest w nim to co ma związek z Agatami i z Lwówkiem oraz dodatkowo ma hasło na wiki. Do takich sytuacji mamy kategorie i nie robimy ozdobników w postaci <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Szablony_nawigacyjne" title="Wikipedia:Szablony nawigacyjne">szablonów nawigacyjnych</a>. ~<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Malarz_pl" title="Wikipedysta:Malarz pl"><span style="color:blue; font-weight:bold;">malarz pl</span></a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Malarz_pl" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Malarz pl"><sup><span style="color:red; font-style:italic;">PISZ</span></sup></a> 21:49, 17 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Malarz pl|2018-10-17T19:49:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-17T19:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Malarz pl&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Malarz pl|2018-10-17T19:49:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bobek321|2018-10-12T11:17:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Piotr967" title="Wikipedysta:Piotr967">Piotr967</a> Moim zamysłem było zgromadzenie w jedno miejsce tematyki zw. z LLA, może użyłem nieodpowiednich słów, w każdym razie chciałem zebrać tę tematykę w jednym szablonie. Jeśli jest nieodpowiedni to czy można go przekształcić w taki sposób by był zgodny ze standardami strony? Jeśli nie ma możliwości reformy to w takim przypadku szablon spotka niechybny koniec. Proszę o jakieś rozwiązanie/a. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Bobek321" title="Wikipedysta:Bobek321">Bobek321</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Bobek321" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Bobek321">dyskusja</a>) 13:17, 12 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bobek321|2018-10-12T11:17:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Piotr967|2018-10-12T18:22:00.000Z|Bobek321|2018-10-12T11:17:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-12T11:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bobek321&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bobek321|2018-10-12T11:17:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Piotr967|2018-10-12T18:22:00.000Z|Bobek321|2018-10-12T11:17:00.000Z"></span>Wolałbym by inni coś doradzili, bo ja mam zero wiedzy o uzusach w/s szablonów. Oprócz w/w zastanawiam się np. czy w szablonie winien być link do <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Agatusy&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Agatusy (strona nie istnieje)">Agatusy</a>, skoro to nie jest hasło, a tylko sekcja w haśle o LLA. Z kolei szablon w haśle <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agat" title="Agat">agat</a> wygląda mi dość polonocentrycznie - trudno uznać by dla tego tematu promocja jednego rejonu czy imprezy była faktycznie zasadna. Mimo wszystko złóż agatów na świecie jest jak mrówków i lwówieckie nie są z perspektywy globalnej jakoś niesamowite. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Piotr967" title="Wikipedysta:Piotr967">Piotr967</a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Piotr967" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Piotr967"><i>podyskutujmy</i></a> 20:22, 12 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Piotr967|2018-10-12T18:22:00.000Z|Bobek321|2018-10-12T11:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Kenraiz|2018-10-12T18:51:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-12T18:22:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-12T18:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Piotr967&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Piotr967|2018-10-12T18:22:00.000Z|Bobek321|2018-10-12T11:17:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Kenraiz|2018-10-12T18:51:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-12T18:22:00.000Z"></span>Na pewno wzajemne splątanie tego szablonu z artykułem <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agat" title="Agat">Agat</a> jest nie na miejscu (artykuły dot. zagadnień lokalnych i hasło o ogólnym znaczeniu). Szablony nawigacyjne są użyteczne, gdy grupują według logicznego klucza artykuły, które rozproszone są w kategoryzacji. Pozostałe artykuły (poza Agatusami) wygodnie mieć zestawione razem w szablonie, choć po uszczupleniu ich liczby nie wiem czy nie wystarczyłoby wzajemne linkowanie w artykułach, ew. sekcja "Zobacz też". <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Kenraiz" title="Wikipedysta:Kenraiz">Kenraiz</a> <small>(<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Kenraiz" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Kenraiz">dyskusja</a>)</small> 20:51, 12 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Kenraiz|2018-10-12T18:51:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-12T18:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-12T18:51:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Kenraiz&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Kenraiz|2018-10-12T18:51:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-12T18:22:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ented|2018-10-15T22:47:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z"></span>Cel istnienia szablonów, to grupowanie haseł poza/ponad systemem kategoryzacyjnym, natomiast jego nazwa "Agatowa Stolica Polski - Lwówek Śląski" jest zdecydowanie nadużyciem – zwrotem nie tylko reklamowym, co czysto publicystycznym (slangiem turystycznym), tabloidowym i imo do zmiany (jeżeli sam szablon miałby się uchować. Podobnie jak Kenraiz: szablon należy uszczuplić o hasła ogólne, a pozostawić tylko te, które są ściśle związane z lokalnymi wydarzeniami. Również nieprawidłowo (co zauważył Piotr967) umieszczony jest w szablonie link do jednej części (nagłówka) hasła gdy hasło to jest powtórnie zlinkowane w tym samym szablonie – to "pompowanie" szablonu na siłę. Po oczyszczeniu szablonu zostałyby w nim 4 elementy (w tym jeden czerwonolinkowy). @<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Piotr967" title="Wikipedysta:Piotr967">Piotr967</a> szablony również podlegają DNU. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Ented" title="Wikipedysta:Ented">Ented</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Ented" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Ented">dyskusja</a>) 00:47, 16 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ented|2018-10-15T22:47:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-15T22:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ented&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ented|2018-10-15T22:47:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bobek321|2018-10-17T19:08:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z"></span>Poprawiłem nieco ten szablon. Mam nadzieję, że teraz jest ok. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Bobek321" title="Wikipedysta:Bobek321">Bobek321</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Bobek321" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Bobek321">dyskusja</a>) 21:08, 17 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bobek321|2018-10-17T19:08:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Piotr967|2018-10-17T19:25:00.000Z|Bobek321|2018-10-17T19:08:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-17T19:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bobek321&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bobek321|2018-10-17T19:08:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Piotr967|2018-10-17T19:25:00.000Z|Bobek321|2018-10-17T19:08:00.000Z"></span>No niezbyt OK, bo on ma teraz dwie nazwy, w dodatku nowa "Agaty w Lwówku Śląskim" jest wg mnie błędna - we Lwówku agaty nie występują, są w Płóczkach, Lubiechowej, Różanej, Nw. Kościele, więc blisko, ale zdecydowanie poza miastem czy jego bezpośrednim otoczeniem. Przyjrzę się i może wpadnę na lepszą nazwę. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Piotr967" title="Wikipedysta:Piotr967">Piotr967</a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Piotr967" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Piotr967"><i>podyskutujmy</i></a> 21:25, 17 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Piotr967|2018-10-17T19:25:00.000Z|Bobek321|2018-10-17T19:08:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-17T19:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Piotr967&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Piotr967|2018-10-17T19:25:00.000Z|Bobek321|2018-10-17T19:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Malarz pl|2018-10-17T19:49:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z"></span>IMO szablon ma wątpliwe kryteria doboru artykułów. Jest w nim to co ma związek z Agatami i z Lwówkiem oraz dodatkowo ma hasło na wiki. Do takich sytuacji mamy kategorie i nie robimy ozdobników w postaci <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Szablony_nawigacyjne" title="Wikipedia:Szablony nawigacyjne">szablonów nawigacyjnych</a>. ~<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Malarz_pl" title="Wikipedysta:Malarz pl"><span style="color:blue; font-weight:bold;">malarz pl</span></a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Malarz_pl" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Malarz pl"><sup><span style="color:red; font-style:italic;">PISZ</span></sup></a> 21:49, 17 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Malarz pl|2018-10-17T19:49:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-17T19:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Malarz pl&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Malarz pl|2018-10-17T19:49:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-11T17:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id="Pytanie_dotycz.C4.85ce_artyku.C5.82.C3.B3w_o_czasopismach._Czy_ta_sama_nazwa_czasopisma_wydawanego_w_r.C3.B3.C5.BCnych_okresach_czasowych_zas.C5.82uguje_na_to_samo_has.C5.82o.3F"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Pytanie_dotyczące_artykułów_o_czasopismach._Czy_ta_sama_nazwa_czasopisma_wydawanego_w_różnych_okresach_czasowych_zasługuje_na_to_samo_hasło?" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Pytanie_dotycz\u0105ce_artyku\u0142\u00f3w_o_czasopismach._Czy_ta_sama_nazwa_czasopisma_wyda|2018-10-18T10:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Pawelmhm|2018-10-18T10:29:00.000Z|Pytanie_dotycz\u0105ce_artyku\u0142\u00f3w_o_czasopismach._Czy_ta_sama_nazwa_czasopisma_wyda&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Pytanie_dotyczące_artykułów_o_czasopismach._Czy_ta_sama_nazwa_czasopisma_wyda|2018-10-18T10:29:00.000Z"></span>Pytanie dotyczące artykułów o czasopismach. Czy ta sama nazwa czasopisma wydawanego w różnych okresach czasowych zasługuje na to samo hasło?<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Pytanie_dotyczące_artykułów_o_czasopismach._Czy_ta_sama_nazwa_czasopisma_wyda|2018-10-18T10:29:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Pawelmhm|2018-10-18T10:29:00.000Z|Pytanie_dotyczące_artykułów_o_czasopismach._Czy_ta_sama_nazwa_czasopisma_wyda"></span>Mam pytanie dotyczące artykułów o czasopismach. Często można spotkać się z sytuacją, że pewien tytuł czasopisma jest używana wielokrotnie w historii przez różne grupy, np. czasopismo Szczerbiec było wydawane w latach 20-tych, potem znowu w czasie wojny przez NSZ zob <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szczerbiec_(pismo_NSZ)" title="Szczerbiec (pismo NSZ)">Szczerbiec (pismo NSZ)</a> a potem znowu ktoś je reaktywował po 1989 roku <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szczerbiec_(miesi%C4%99cznik)" title="Szczerbiec (miesięcznik)">Szczerbiec (miesięcznik)</a>. Więc w sumie mamy 3 "Szczerbce". Podobna sytuacja w tym haśle: <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polska_Partia_Socjalno-Demokratyczna_Galicji_i_%C5%9Al%C4%85ska_Cieszy%C5%84skiego" title="Polska Partia Socjalno-Demokratyczna Galicji i Śląska Cieszyńskiego">Polska Partia Socjalno-Demokratyczna Galicji i Śląska Cieszyńskiego</a>, jest pismo <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nowy_Robotnik" title="Nowy Robotnik">Nowy Robotnik</a> wydawane na końcu XIX wieku przez PPSD a potem na początku XX wieku przez kogoś zupełnie innego. Więc w sumie mamy dwa pisma <i>Nowy Robotnik</i> z czego jedno ma swój artykuł inne nie. Czy w takim wypadku uzasadnione jest istnienie różnych stron dla każdego pisma? Czy te strony powinny być w jakiś sposób ze sobą powiązane?  <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Pawelmhm" title="Wikipedysta:Pawelmhm">pawelmxm</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Pawelmhm" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Pawelmhm">dyskusja</a>) 12:29, 18 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pawelmhm|2018-10-18T10:29:00.000Z|Pytanie_dotycz\u0105ce_artyku\u0142\u00f3w_o_czasopismach._Czy_ta_sama_nazwa_czasopisma_wyda&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Tomasz Raburski|2018-10-18T11:05:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-18T10:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Ciacho5|2018-10-18T12:04:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-18T10:29:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-18T10:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pawelmhm&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Pawelmhm|2018-10-18T10:29:00.000Z|Pytanie_dotyczące_artykułów_o_czasopismach._Czy_ta_sama_nazwa_czasopisma_wyda"></span>Mam pytanie dotyczące artykułów o czasopismach. Często można spotkać się z sytuacją, że pewien tytuł czasopisma jest używana wielokrotnie w historii przez różne grupy, np. czasopismo Szczerbiec było wydawane w latach 20-tych, potem znowu w czasie wojny przez NSZ zob <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szczerbiec_(pismo_NSZ)" title="Szczerbiec (pismo NSZ)">Szczerbiec (pismo NSZ)</a> a potem znowu ktoś je reaktywował po 1989 roku <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szczerbiec_(miesi%C4%99cznik)" title="Szczerbiec (miesięcznik)">Szczerbiec (miesięcznik)</a>. Więc w sumie mamy 3 "Szczerbce". Podobna sytuacja w tym haśle: <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polska_Partia_Socjalno-Demokratyczna_Galicji_i_%C5%9Al%C4%85ska_Cieszy%C5%84skiego" title="Polska Partia Socjalno-Demokratyczna Galicji i Śląska Cieszyńskiego">Polska Partia Socjalno-Demokratyczna Galicji i Śląska Cieszyńskiego</a>, jest pismo <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nowy_Robotnik" title="Nowy Robotnik">Nowy Robotnik</a> wydawane na końcu XIX wieku przez PPSD a potem na początku XX wieku przez kogoś zupełnie innego. Więc w sumie mamy dwa pisma <i>Nowy Robotnik</i> z czego jedno ma swój artykuł inne nie. Czy w takim wypadku uzasadnione jest istnienie różnych stron dla każdego pisma? Czy te strony powinny być w jakiś sposób ze sobą powiązane?  <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Pawelmhm" title="Wikipedysta:Pawelmhm">pawelmxm</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Pawelmhm" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Pawelmhm">dyskusja</a>) 12:29, 18 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pawelmhm|2018-10-18T10:29:00.000Z|Pytanie_dotycz\u0105ce_artyku\u0142\u00f3w_o_czasopismach._Czy_ta_sama_nazwa_czasopisma_wyda&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Tomasz Raburski|2018-10-18T11:05:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-18T10:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Ciacho5|2018-10-18T12:04:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-18T10:29:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-18T10:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pawelmhm&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Tomasz Raburski|2018-10-18T11:05:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-18T10:29:00.000Z"></span>Nie. Pisma powstałe po roku 1989 a używające nazw dawnych czasopism (np. Bluszcz czy Warszawska Gazeta) mają bardzo niewiele wspólnego z przedwojennymi wydawnictwami. Powinny mieć osobne hasła, które w treści mogą zawierać wzmiankę np. W XXXX r. powstało czasopismo o tej samej nazwie nawiązujące doYYY. (można trochę więcej, na czym to nawiązywanie polega). <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Tomasz_Raburski" title="Wikipedysta:Tomasz Raburski">Tomasz Raburski</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Tomasz_Raburski" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Tomasz Raburski">dyskusja</a>) 13:05, 18 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Tomasz Raburski|2018-10-18T11:05:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-18T10:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-18T11:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Tomasz Raburski&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Tomasz Raburski|2018-10-18T11:05:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-18T10:29:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ciacho5|2018-10-18T12:04:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-18T10:29:00.000Z"></span>Powinny być ze sobą powiązane przez disambig albo <i>zobacz też</i>. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Ciacho5" title="Wikipedysta:Ciacho5">Ciacho5</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Ciacho5" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Ciacho5">dyskusja</a>) 14:04, 18 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ciacho5|2018-10-18T12:04:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-18T10:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-18T12:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ciacho5&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ciacho5|2018-10-18T12:04:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-18T10:29:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Tomasz Raburski|2018-10-18T11:05:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-18T10:29:00.000Z"></span>Nie. Pisma powstałe po roku 1989 a używające nazw dawnych czasopism (np. Bluszcz czy Warszawska Gazeta) mają bardzo niewiele wspólnego z przedwojennymi wydawnictwami. Powinny mieć osobne hasła, które w treści mogą zawierać wzmiankę np. W XXXX r. powstało czasopismo o tej samej nazwie nawiązujące doYYY. (można trochę więcej, na czym to nawiązywanie polega). <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Tomasz_Raburski" title="Wikipedysta:Tomasz Raburski">Tomasz Raburski</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Tomasz_Raburski" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Tomasz Raburski">dyskusja</a>) 13:05, 18 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Tomasz Raburski|2018-10-18T11:05:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-18T10:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-18T11:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Tomasz Raburski&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Tomasz Raburski|2018-10-18T11:05:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-18T10:29:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ciacho5|2018-10-18T12:04:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-18T10:29:00.000Z"></span>Powinny być ze sobą powiązane przez disambig albo <i>zobacz też</i>. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Ciacho5" title="Wikipedysta:Ciacho5">Ciacho5</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Ciacho5" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Ciacho5">dyskusja</a>) 14:04, 18 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ciacho5|2018-10-18T12:04:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-18T10:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-18T12:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ciacho5&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ciacho5|2018-10-18T12:04:00.000Z|Pawelmhm|2018-10-18T10:29:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
 <h2><span id="T.C5.82o_w_kom.C3.B3rce"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Tło_w_komórce" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|T\u0142o_w_kom\u00f3rce|2018-10-19T01:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Demkoff|2018-10-19T01:41:00.000Z|T\u0142o_w_kom\u00f3rce&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Tło_w_komórce|2018-10-19T01:41:00.000Z"></span>Tło w komórce<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Tło_w_komórce|2018-10-19T01:41:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <dl><dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Demkoff|2018-10-19T01:41:00.000Z|Tło_w_komórce"></span>Wątek założony przed: 21:03, 18 paź 2018 (CET)</small></dd></dl>
 <p>Jak dodać czarne tło w komórce (W tabelce)?  Tak jak w tym artykule <a class="external free" href="https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubel_bia%C5%82oruski">https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubel_bia%C5%82oruski</a> w tabelce "Pierwszy rubel (1992–1999)" (Chodzi o awers i rewers)
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-<dl><dd>W kodzie źródłowym danej komórki musi się znaleźć wpis: <code>bgcolor="#000000"</code>.<br/>We wspomnianym artykule cała linijka kodu dla pierwszego wiersza w kolumnie Awers wygląda tak: <code>| align="center" bgcolor="#000000" | [[Plik:Belarus-1992-Bill-0.5-Obverse.jpg|105px]]</code>; bgcolor to z ang. background color, czyli kolor tła; kolor czarny w zapisie szesnastkowym to #000000. <b><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Demkoff" title="Wikipedysta:Demkoff"><font face="Arial Narrow"><span style="color: #4169E1">Demkoff</span></font></a></b> <sub><b><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Demkoff" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Demkoff"><span style="color: #BD9F57">dyskusja</span></a></b></sub> 03:41, 19 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Demkoff|2018-10-19T01:41:00.000Z|T\u0142o_w_kom\u00f3rce&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-19T01:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Demkoff&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Demkoff|2018-10-19T01:41:00.000Z|Tło_w_komórce"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd>W kodzie źródłowym danej komórki musi się znaleźć wpis: <code>bgcolor="#000000"</code>.<br/>We wspomnianym artykule cała linijka kodu dla pierwszego wiersza w kolumnie Awers wygląda tak: <code>| align="center" bgcolor="#000000" | [[Plik:Belarus-1992-Bill-0.5-Obverse.jpg|105px]]</code>; bgcolor to z ang. background color, czyli kolor tła; kolor czarny w zapisie szesnastkowym to #000000. <b><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Demkoff" title="Wikipedysta:Demkoff"><font face="Arial Narrow"><span style="color: #4169E1">Demkoff</span></font></a></b> <sub><b><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Demkoff" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Demkoff"><span style="color: #BD9F57">dyskusja</span></a></b></sub> 03:41, 19 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Demkoff|2018-10-19T01:41:00.000Z|T\u0142o_w_kom\u00f3rce&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-19T01:41:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Demkoff&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Demkoff|2018-10-19T01:41:00.000Z|Tło_w_komórce"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id="U.C5.82amki"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Ułamki" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|U\u0142amki|2018-10-02T20:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Pawe\u0142 Ziemian|2018-10-02T20:26:00.000Z|U\u0142amki&quot;,&quot;c|Ashaio|2018-10-19T12:09:00.000Z|U\u0142amki&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Ułamki|2018-10-02T20:26:00.000Z"></span>Ułamki<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Ułamki|2018-10-02T20:26:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Paweł Ziemian|2018-10-02T20:26:00.000Z|Ułamki"></span>Mamy dwa szablony <kbd>{{<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Szablon:U%C5%82&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Szablon:Uł (strona nie istnieje)">uł</a>}}</kbd> i <kbd>{{<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Szablon:Sfrac&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Szablon:Sfrac (strona nie istnieje)">sfrac</a>}}</kbd> do podawania ułamków w artykułach. Autorami są odpowiednio <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Matma_Rex" title="Wikipedysta:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> i <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Karol_Szapsza" title="Wikipedysta:Karol Szapsza">Karol Szapsza</a>. Obejrzawszy linkujące (i wiek) uważam, że oba są praktycznie martwe. Zastanawiam się więc, czy nie prościej byłoby z nich zrezygnować na rzecz uniwersalnego <code>&lt;math></code>. Ewentualnie może należałoby je chociaż zintegrować. Przy okazji jako ciekawostkę dodam, że <kbd>{{<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Szablon:Sfrac&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Szablon:Sfrac (strona nie istnieje)">sfrac</a>}}</kbd> jest zabezpieczony przed <code>subst:</code>. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Pawe%C5%82_Ziemian" title="Wikipedysta:Paweł Ziemian">Paweł Ziemian</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Pawe%C5%82_Ziemian" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Paweł Ziemian">dyskusja</a>) 22:26, 2 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pawe\u0142 Ziemian|2018-10-02T20:26:00.000Z|U\u0142amki&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Matma Rex|2018-10-02T22:16:00.000Z|Pawe\u0142 Ziemian|2018-10-02T20:26:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-02T20:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pawe\u0142 Ziemian&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Paweł Ziemian|2018-10-02T20:26:00.000Z|Ułamki"></span>Mamy dwa szablony <kbd>{{<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Szablon:U%C5%82&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Szablon:Uł (strona nie istnieje)">uł</a>}}</kbd> i <kbd>{{<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Szablon:Sfrac&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Szablon:Sfrac (strona nie istnieje)">sfrac</a>}}</kbd> do podawania ułamków w artykułach. Autorami są odpowiednio <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Matma_Rex" title="Wikipedysta:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> i <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Karol_Szapsza" title="Wikipedysta:Karol Szapsza">Karol Szapsza</a>. Obejrzawszy linkujące (i wiek) uważam, że oba są praktycznie martwe. Zastanawiam się więc, czy nie prościej byłoby z nich zrezygnować na rzecz uniwersalnego <code>&lt;math></code>. Ewentualnie może należałoby je chociaż zintegrować. Przy okazji jako ciekawostkę dodam, że <kbd>{{<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Szablon:Sfrac&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Szablon:Sfrac (strona nie istnieje)">sfrac</a>}}</kbd> jest zabezpieczony przed <code>subst:</code>. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Pawe%C5%82_Ziemian" title="Wikipedysta:Paweł Ziemian">Paweł Ziemian</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Pawe%C5%82_Ziemian" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Paweł Ziemian">dyskusja</a>) 22:26, 2 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pawe\u0142 Ziemian|2018-10-02T20:26:00.000Z|U\u0142amki&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Matma Rex|2018-10-02T22:16:00.000Z|Pawe\u0142 Ziemian|2018-10-02T20:26:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-02T20:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pawe\u0142 Ziemian&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2018-10-02T22:16:00.000Z|Paweł Ziemian|2018-10-02T20:26:00.000Z"></span>Nie wiem, po co napisałem <kbd>{{<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Szablon:U%C5%82&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Szablon:Uł (strona nie istnieje)">uł</a>}}</kbd>, pewnie był mi potrzebny do jakiegoś artykułu te dziesięć lat temu ;) Nie zgłaszam sprzeciwu. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Matma_Rex" title="Wikipedysta:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Matma_Rex" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Matma Rex"><small>dyskusja</small></a> 00:16, 3 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2018-10-02T22:16:00.000Z|Pawe\u0142 Ziemian|2018-10-02T20:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-02T22:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2018-10-02T22:16:00.000Z|Paweł Ziemian|2018-10-02T20:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ashaio|2018-10-19T12:09:00.000Z|Ułamki"></span>Czy w artykule <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szereg_1_%E2%88%92_2_%2B_3_%E2%88%92_4_%2B_%E2%80%A6" title="Szereg 1 − 2 + 3 − 4 + …">Szereg 1 − 2 + 3 − 4 + …</a> można wszystkie szeregi zapisać przy pomocy <code>&lt;math></code>? A przynajmniej zamieć dywizy na minusy?... <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedystka:Ashaio" title="Wikipedystka:Ashaio">Ashaio</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedystki:Ashaio" title="Dyskusja wikipedystki:Ashaio">dyskusja</a>) 14:09, 19 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ashaio|2018-10-19T12:09:00.000Z|U\u0142amki&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Pawe\u0142 Ziemian|2018-10-19T20:23:00.000Z|Ashaio|2018-10-19T12:09:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-19T12:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ashaio&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2018-10-02T22:16:00.000Z|Paweł Ziemian|2018-10-02T20:26:00.000Z"></span>Nie wiem, po co napisałem <kbd>{{<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Szablon:U%C5%82&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Szablon:Uł (strona nie istnieje)">uł</a>}}</kbd>, pewnie był mi potrzebny do jakiegoś artykułu te dziesięć lat temu ;) Nie zgłaszam sprzeciwu. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Matma_Rex" title="Wikipedysta:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Matma_Rex" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Matma Rex"><small>dyskusja</small></a> 00:16, 3 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2018-10-02T22:16:00.000Z|Pawe\u0142 Ziemian|2018-10-02T20:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-02T22:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2018-10-02T22:16:00.000Z|Paweł Ziemian|2018-10-02T20:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ashaio|2018-10-19T12:09:00.000Z|Ułamki"></span>Czy w artykule <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szereg_1_%E2%88%92_2_%2B_3_%E2%88%92_4_%2B_%E2%80%A6" title="Szereg 1 − 2 + 3 − 4 + …">Szereg 1 − 2 + 3 − 4 + …</a> można wszystkie szeregi zapisać przy pomocy <code>&lt;math></code>? A przynajmniej zamieć dywizy na minusy?... <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedystka:Ashaio" title="Wikipedystka:Ashaio">Ashaio</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedystki:Ashaio" title="Dyskusja wikipedystki:Ashaio">dyskusja</a>) 14:09, 19 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ashaio|2018-10-19T12:09:00.000Z|U\u0142amki&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Pawe\u0142 Ziemian|2018-10-19T20:23:00.000Z|Ashaio|2018-10-19T12:09:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-19T12:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ashaio&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
 <span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ashaio|2018-10-19T12:09:00.000Z|Ułamki"></span></p>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Paweł Ziemian|2018-10-19T20:23:00.000Z|Ashaio|2018-10-19T12:09:00.000Z"></span>Dobre pytanie. Połączyłem chyba ze dwa w pełen wzór, w których <kbd>{{<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szablon:Nowrap" title="Szablon:Nowrap">nowrap</a>}}</kbd> zawierał w sobie matematyczny zapis ułamka. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Pawe%C5%82_Ziemian" title="Wikipedysta:Paweł Ziemian">Paweł Ziemian</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Pawe%C5%82_Ziemian" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Paweł Ziemian">dyskusja</a>) 22:23, 19 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pawe\u0142 Ziemian|2018-10-19T20:23:00.000Z|Ashaio|2018-10-19T12:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-19T20:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pawe\u0142 Ziemian&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Paweł Ziemian|2018-10-19T20:23:00.000Z|Ashaio|2018-10-19T12:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Paweł Ziemian|2018-10-19T20:23:00.000Z|Ashaio|2018-10-19T12:09:00.000Z"></span>Dobre pytanie. Połączyłem chyba ze dwa w pełen wzór, w których <kbd>{{<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szablon:Nowrap" title="Szablon:Nowrap">nowrap</a>}}</kbd> zawierał w sobie matematyczny zapis ułamka. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Pawe%C5%82_Ziemian" title="Wikipedysta:Paweł Ziemian">Paweł Ziemian</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Pawe%C5%82_Ziemian" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Paweł Ziemian">dyskusja</a>) 22:23, 19 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pawe\u0142 Ziemian|2018-10-19T20:23:00.000Z|Ashaio|2018-10-19T12:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-19T20:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pawe\u0142 Ziemian&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Paweł Ziemian|2018-10-19T20:23:00.000Z|Ashaio|2018-10-19T12:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id=".22To_.C5.BAr.C3.B3d.C5.82o_nie_zosta.C5.82o_u.C5.BCyte_do_napisania_tych_tre.C5.9Bci.22"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="&quot;To_źródło_nie_zostało_użyte_do_napisania_tych_treści&quot;" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|\&quot;To_\u017ar\u00f3d\u0142o_nie_zosta\u0142o_u\u017cyte_do_napisania_tych_tre\u015bci\&quot;|2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z|\&quot;To_\u017ar\u00f3d\u0142o_nie_zosta\u0142o_u\u017cyte_do_napisania_tych_tre\u015bci\&quot;&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|&quot;To_źródło_nie_zostało_użyte_do_napisania_tych_treści&quot;|2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z"></span>"To źródło nie zostało użyte do napisania tych treści"<span data-mw-comment-end="h|&quot;To_źródło_nie_zostało_użyte_do_napisania_tych_treści&quot;|2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z|&quot;To_źródło_nie_zostało_użyte_do_napisania_tych_treści&quot;"></span>Dzień dobry! Moi znajomy (IRL) wikipedysta podpowiedział mi, abym poszukała odpowiedzi na forum publicznym. Otóż w ubiegłym miesiącu <a class="external text" href="https://pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II&amp;diff=54600410&amp;oldid=54586052">dopisałam tę informację do hasła Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II</a>. Moim zdaniem to była istotna informacja, ponieważ dopiero w ostatnich miesiącach wyszło na jaw, że słynny z brzydoty X-32 (możecie go kojarzyć <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://i.imgur.com/3ju8arH.jpg">z memów takich jak ten</a>) miał wypięknieć, a to jest istotne, bo różnica między klasyczną a nieklasyczną konfiguracją aerodynamiczną mogła mieć wpływ na wynik przetargu. Toteż dopisałam tę informację i źródło, z którego ją zaczerpnęłam. Tymczasem wikipedysta Matrek <a class="external text" href="https://pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II&amp;type=revision&amp;diff=54769840&amp;oldid=54600815">usunął przypis, a nie usunął informacji</a> z uzasadnieniem "To źródło nie zostało użyte do napisania tych treści", kiedy przecież zoastało, wiem to, bo sama "te treści" napisałam. Zresztą wystarczy spojrzeć na drugi przypis, odnoszący się do pisma z 2001, a mówimy tutaj o informacji, która została potwierdzona dopiero w 2018. Tak więc nie wiem, jak powinnam interpretować "To źródło nie zostało użyte", gdy wiem, że zostało... chyba że to ja mam jakieś zwidy i nie napisałam tego, co napisałam. :) <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedystka:Vinsinna" title="Wikipedystka:Vinsinna">Vinsinna</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedystki:Vinsinna" title="Dyskusja wikipedystki:Vinsinna">dyskusja</a>) 15:45, 18 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z|\&quot;To_\u017ar\u00f3d\u0142o_nie_zosta\u0142o_u\u017cyte_do_napisania_tych_tre\u015bci\&quot;&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Kenraiz|2018-10-18T15:07:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|WTM|2018-10-18T15:24:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Ented|2018-10-18T18:39:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Kenraiz|2018-10-18T18:45:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vinsinna&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z|&quot;To_źródło_nie_zostało_użyte_do_napisania_tych_treści&quot;"></span>Dzień dobry! Moi znajomy (IRL) wikipedysta podpowiedział mi, abym poszukała odpowiedzi na forum publicznym. Otóż w ubiegłym miesiącu <a class="external text" href="https://pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II&amp;diff=54600410&amp;oldid=54586052">dopisałam tę informację do hasła Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II</a>. Moim zdaniem to była istotna informacja, ponieważ dopiero w ostatnich miesiącach wyszło na jaw, że słynny z brzydoty X-32 (możecie go kojarzyć <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://i.imgur.com/3ju8arH.jpg">z memów takich jak ten</a>) miał wypięknieć, a to jest istotne, bo różnica między klasyczną a nieklasyczną konfiguracją aerodynamiczną mogła mieć wpływ na wynik przetargu. Toteż dopisałam tę informację i źródło, z którego ją zaczerpnęłam. Tymczasem wikipedysta Matrek <a class="external text" href="https://pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II&amp;type=revision&amp;diff=54769840&amp;oldid=54600815">usunął przypis, a nie usunął informacji</a> z uzasadnieniem "To źródło nie zostało użyte do napisania tych treści", kiedy przecież zoastało, wiem to, bo sama "te treści" napisałam. Zresztą wystarczy spojrzeć na drugi przypis, odnoszący się do pisma z 2001, a mówimy tutaj o informacji, która została potwierdzona dopiero w 2018. Tak więc nie wiem, jak powinnam interpretować "To źródło nie zostało użyte", gdy wiem, że zostało... chyba że to ja mam jakieś zwidy i nie napisałam tego, co napisałam. :) <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedystka:Vinsinna" title="Wikipedystka:Vinsinna">Vinsinna</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedystki:Vinsinna" title="Dyskusja wikipedystki:Vinsinna">dyskusja</a>) 15:45, 18 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z|\&quot;To_\u017ar\u00f3d\u0142o_nie_zosta\u0142o_u\u017cyte_do_napisania_tych_tre\u015bci\&quot;&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Kenraiz|2018-10-18T15:07:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|WTM|2018-10-18T15:24:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Ented|2018-10-18T18:39:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Kenraiz|2018-10-18T18:45:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vinsinna&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Kenraiz|2018-10-18T15:07:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z"></span>Spróbuj wyjaśnić to najpierw z wikipedystą Matrkiem. Wygląda na to, że wziął Twoją edycję za poprawki redakcyjne i usunął dodany odnośnik jako nie będący źródłem artykułu. Gdybyś dodała swoją informację za istniejącym odnośnikiem źródłowym i zakończyła ten wtręt odnośnikiem do "swojego" źródła – nie byłoby pewnie nieporozumienia. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Kenraiz" title="Wikipedysta:Kenraiz">Kenraiz</a> <small>(<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Kenraiz" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Kenraiz">dyskusja</a>)</small> 17:07, 18 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Kenraiz|2018-10-18T15:07:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T17:12:00.000Z|Kenraiz|2018-10-18T15:07:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-18T15:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Kenraiz&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Kenraiz|2018-10-18T15:07:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T17:12:00.000Z|Kenraiz|2018-10-18T15:07:00.000Z"></span>Trochę nie rozumiem. To znaczy rozumiem, ale nie rozumiem. Przecież nie może być tak, że jak chcę coś dopisać, to muszę to robić tylko na końcu akapitu. Nie wiem, może to i ma sens, ale mi się to nie klei. :( <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedystka:Vinsinna" title="Wikipedystka:Vinsinna">Vinsinna</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedystki:Vinsinna" title="Dyskusja wikipedystki:Vinsinna">dyskusja</a>) 19:12, 18 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T17:12:00.000Z|Kenraiz|2018-10-18T15:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-18T17:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vinsinna&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T17:12:00.000Z|Kenraiz|2018-10-18T15:07:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|WTM|2018-10-18T15:24:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z"></span>Nie Matrek był tym anulującym, tylko @<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Tokyotown8" title="Wikipedysta:Tokyotown8">Tokyotown8</a>. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:WTM" title="Wikipedysta:WTM">WTM</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:WTM" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:WTM">dyskusja</a>) 17:24, 18 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|WTM|2018-10-18T15:24:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T17:11:00.000Z|WTM|2018-10-18T15:24:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-18T15:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;WTM&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<span data-mw-comment-end="c|WTM|2018-10-18T15:24:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T17:11:00.000Z|WTM|2018-10-18T15:24:00.000Z"></span>O Jezu, przepraszam!! Pisałam tego posta równocześnie z przeglądaniem ewolucji artykułu "<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torpeda" title="Torpeda">Torpeda</a>" i mi się pomieszało!! Mam nadzieję, że Matrek nie będzie miał mi za złe tej pomyłki. Proszę, e-kwiatek na zgodę: 💐 :) <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedystka:Vinsinna" title="Wikipedystka:Vinsinna">Vinsinna</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedystki:Vinsinna" title="Dyskusja wikipedystki:Vinsinna">dyskusja</a>) 19:11, 18 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T17:11:00.000Z|WTM|2018-10-18T15:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-18T17:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vinsinna&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T17:11:00.000Z|WTM|2018-10-18T15:24:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ented|2018-10-18T18:39:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedystka:Vinsinna" title="Wikipedystka:Vinsinna">Vinsinna</a>. "jak chcę coś dopisać, to muszę to robić tylko na końcu akapitu" - oczywiście, że nie, ale w dopisując treść w środku akapitu, który jest uźródłowiony przypisem na końcu musisz zdublować istniejący przypis. Przykład: <br/><code><i>To jest pierwsze zdanie w akapicie. To jest drugie zdanie w tym samym akapicie i oba są uźródłowione jednym przypisem (nr 1), który następuje po tych dwóch zdaniach</i><sup>[1]</sup>.</code><br/>Teraz w treść wplatam zdanie dodatkowe zdanie:<br/><code><i>To jest pierwsze zdanie w akapicie<sup><b>[1]</b></sup>. Tu wstawiam dodatkowe zdanie opatrzone innym przypisem<sup><b>[2]</b></sup>. To jest teraz trzecie zdanie w tym samym akapicie ale odwołujące się merytorycznie nadal do przypisu nr 1</i><sup><b>[1]</b></sup></code>. Pierwsze zdanie dodatkowo odwołuje się do przypisu nr 1, drugie do przypisu nr 2, a trzecie (dawne drugie) do przypisu mr 1 i cała treść akapitu jest prawidłowo uźródlowiona. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Ented" title="Wikipedysta:Ented">Ented</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Ented" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Ented">dyskusja</a>) 20:39, 18 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ented|2018-10-18T18:39:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-18T18:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ented&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ented|2018-10-18T18:39:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Kenraiz|2018-10-18T18:45:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z"></span>Tu była prostsza sytuacja. Powinno być po prostu: <br/><code><i>Dotychczasowa informacja uźródłowiona odnośnikiem<sup>[1]</sup>, dopisek o docelowej konfiguracji z nowym odnośnikiem<sup>[2]</sup></i></code>.<br/> A nie: <code><i>Dotychczasowa informacja uźródłowiona odnośnikiem, dopisek o docelowej konfiguracji z nowym odnośnikiem<sup>[1]</sup><sup>[2]</sup></i></code>. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Kenraiz" title="Wikipedysta:Kenraiz">Kenraiz</a> <small>(<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Kenraiz" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Kenraiz">dyskusja</a>)</small> 20:45, 18 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Kenraiz|2018-10-18T18:45:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Vinsinna|2018-10-19T19:10:00.000Z|Kenraiz|2018-10-18T18:45:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-18T18:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Kenraiz&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Kenraiz|2018-10-18T18:45:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z"></span><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Vinsinna|2018-10-19T19:10:00.000Z|Kenraiz|2018-10-18T18:45:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Kenraiz" title="Wikipedysta:Kenraiz">Kenraiz</a> (nauczyłam się wysyłać powiadomienia :)) To w takim razie czy byłbyś uprzejmy zerknąć na hasło <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II" title="Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II">Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II</a> i wstawić ten przypis w tym miejscu, w którym Twoim zdaniem on powinien być? Albo mógłbyś powiedzieć, w którym miejscu mam go wstawić? Z tego, co napisałeś, wnioskuję, że powinno być tak: "w oczach oceniającej obydwa projekty komisji mogło faworyzować X-35[tu przypis <i>stary</i>], mimo że docelow konfiguracja potencjalnego F-35 miałaby być bardziej klasyczna[tu przypis <i>nowy</i>]". Czy dobrze rozumiem? :) <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedystka:Vinsinna" title="Wikipedystka:Vinsinna">Vinsinna</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedystki:Vinsinna" title="Dyskusja wikipedystki:Vinsinna">dyskusja</a>) 21:10, 19 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vinsinna|2018-10-19T19:10:00.000Z|Kenraiz|2018-10-18T18:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Kenraiz|2018-10-19T19:21:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-19T19:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Vinsinna|2018-10-21T12:40:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-19T19:10:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-19T19:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vinsinna&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Vinsinna|2018-10-19T19:10:00.000Z|Kenraiz|2018-10-18T18:45:00.000Z"></span><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Kenraiz|2018-10-19T19:21:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-19T19:10:00.000Z"></span>Ja nie ingeruję, bo musiałbym przeanalizować treść i źródło, by nie popełnić błędu, ale generalnie jest tak, że odnośnik wstawiać należy precyzyjnie za fragmentem tekstu, który uźródławia, czyli tak jak piszesz. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Kenraiz" title="Wikipedysta:Kenraiz">Kenraiz</a> <small>(<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Kenraiz" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Kenraiz">dyskusja</a>)</small> 21:21, 19 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Kenraiz|2018-10-19T19:21:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-19T19:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-19T19:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Kenraiz&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Kenraiz|2018-10-19T19:21:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-19T19:10:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Vinsinna|2018-10-21T12:40:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-19T19:10:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Kenraiz" title="Wikipedysta:Kenraiz">Kenraiz</a> Rozumiem, dziękuję. :) <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedystka:Vinsinna" title="Wikipedystka:Vinsinna">Vinsinna</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedystki:Vinsinna" title="Dyskusja wikipedystki:Vinsinna">dyskusja</a>) 14:40, 21 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vinsinna|2018-10-21T12:40:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-19T19:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-21T12:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vinsinna&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Vinsinna|2018-10-21T12:40:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-19T19:10:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Kenraiz|2018-10-18T15:07:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z"></span>Spróbuj wyjaśnić to najpierw z wikipedystą Matrkiem. Wygląda na to, że wziął Twoją edycję za poprawki redakcyjne i usunął dodany odnośnik jako nie będący źródłem artykułu. Gdybyś dodała swoją informację za istniejącym odnośnikiem źródłowym i zakończyła ten wtręt odnośnikiem do "swojego" źródła – nie byłoby pewnie nieporozumienia. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Kenraiz" title="Wikipedysta:Kenraiz">Kenraiz</a> <small>(<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Kenraiz" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Kenraiz">dyskusja</a>)</small> 17:07, 18 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Kenraiz|2018-10-18T15:07:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T17:12:00.000Z|Kenraiz|2018-10-18T15:07:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-18T15:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Kenraiz&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Kenraiz|2018-10-18T15:07:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T17:12:00.000Z|Kenraiz|2018-10-18T15:07:00.000Z"></span>Trochę nie rozumiem. To znaczy rozumiem, ale nie rozumiem. Przecież nie może być tak, że jak chcę coś dopisać, to muszę to robić tylko na końcu akapitu. Nie wiem, może to i ma sens, ale mi się to nie klei. :( <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedystka:Vinsinna" title="Wikipedystka:Vinsinna">Vinsinna</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedystki:Vinsinna" title="Dyskusja wikipedystki:Vinsinna">dyskusja</a>) 19:12, 18 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T17:12:00.000Z|Kenraiz|2018-10-18T15:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-18T17:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vinsinna&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T17:12:00.000Z|Kenraiz|2018-10-18T15:07:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|WTM|2018-10-18T15:24:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z"></span>Nie Matrek był tym anulującym, tylko @<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Tokyotown8" title="Wikipedysta:Tokyotown8">Tokyotown8</a>. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:WTM" title="Wikipedysta:WTM">WTM</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:WTM" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:WTM">dyskusja</a>) 17:24, 18 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|WTM|2018-10-18T15:24:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T17:11:00.000Z|WTM|2018-10-18T15:24:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-18T15:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;WTM&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<span data-mw-comment-end="c|WTM|2018-10-18T15:24:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T17:11:00.000Z|WTM|2018-10-18T15:24:00.000Z"></span>O Jezu, przepraszam!! Pisałam tego posta równocześnie z przeglądaniem ewolucji artykułu "<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torpeda" title="Torpeda">Torpeda</a>" i mi się pomieszało!! Mam nadzieję, że Matrek nie będzie miał mi za złe tej pomyłki. Proszę, e-kwiatek na zgodę: 💐 :) <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedystka:Vinsinna" title="Wikipedystka:Vinsinna">Vinsinna</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedystki:Vinsinna" title="Dyskusja wikipedystki:Vinsinna">dyskusja</a>) 19:11, 18 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T17:11:00.000Z|WTM|2018-10-18T15:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-18T17:11:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vinsinna&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T17:11:00.000Z|WTM|2018-10-18T15:24:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ented|2018-10-18T18:39:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedystka:Vinsinna" title="Wikipedystka:Vinsinna">Vinsinna</a>. "jak chcę coś dopisać, to muszę to robić tylko na końcu akapitu" - oczywiście, że nie, ale w dopisując treść w środku akapitu, który jest uźródłowiony przypisem na końcu musisz zdublować istniejący przypis. Przykład: <br/><code><i>To jest pierwsze zdanie w akapicie. To jest drugie zdanie w tym samym akapicie i oba są uźródłowione jednym przypisem (nr 1), który następuje po tych dwóch zdaniach</i><sup>[1]</sup>.</code><br/>Teraz w treść wplatam zdanie dodatkowe zdanie:<br/><code><i>To jest pierwsze zdanie w akapicie<sup><b>[1]</b></sup>. Tu wstawiam dodatkowe zdanie opatrzone innym przypisem<sup><b>[2]</b></sup>. To jest teraz trzecie zdanie w tym samym akapicie ale odwołujące się merytorycznie nadal do przypisu nr 1</i><sup><b>[1]</b></sup></code>. Pierwsze zdanie dodatkowo odwołuje się do przypisu nr 1, drugie do przypisu nr 2, a trzecie (dawne drugie) do przypisu mr 1 i cała treść akapitu jest prawidłowo uźródlowiona. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Ented" title="Wikipedysta:Ented">Ented</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Ented" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Ented">dyskusja</a>) 20:39, 18 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ented|2018-10-18T18:39:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-18T18:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ented&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ented|2018-10-18T18:39:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Kenraiz|2018-10-18T18:45:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z"></span>Tu była prostsza sytuacja. Powinno być po prostu: <br/><code><i>Dotychczasowa informacja uźródłowiona odnośnikiem<sup>[1]</sup>, dopisek o docelowej konfiguracji z nowym odnośnikiem<sup>[2]</sup></i></code>.<br/> A nie: <code><i>Dotychczasowa informacja uźródłowiona odnośnikiem, dopisek o docelowej konfiguracji z nowym odnośnikiem<sup>[1]</sup><sup>[2]</sup></i></code>. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Kenraiz" title="Wikipedysta:Kenraiz">Kenraiz</a> <small>(<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Kenraiz" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Kenraiz">dyskusja</a>)</small> 20:45, 18 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Kenraiz|2018-10-18T18:45:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Vinsinna|2018-10-19T19:10:00.000Z|Kenraiz|2018-10-18T18:45:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-18T18:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Kenraiz&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Kenraiz|2018-10-18T18:45:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-18T13:45:00.000Z"></span><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Vinsinna|2018-10-19T19:10:00.000Z|Kenraiz|2018-10-18T18:45:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Kenraiz" title="Wikipedysta:Kenraiz">Kenraiz</a> (nauczyłam się wysyłać powiadomienia :)) To w takim razie czy byłbyś uprzejmy zerknąć na hasło <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II" title="Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II">Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II</a> i wstawić ten przypis w tym miejscu, w którym Twoim zdaniem on powinien być? Albo mógłbyś powiedzieć, w którym miejscu mam go wstawić? Z tego, co napisałeś, wnioskuję, że powinno być tak: "w oczach oceniającej obydwa projekty komisji mogło faworyzować X-35[tu przypis <i>stary</i>], mimo że docelow konfiguracja potencjalnego F-35 miałaby być bardziej klasyczna[tu przypis <i>nowy</i>]". Czy dobrze rozumiem? :) <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedystka:Vinsinna" title="Wikipedystka:Vinsinna">Vinsinna</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedystki:Vinsinna" title="Dyskusja wikipedystki:Vinsinna">dyskusja</a>) 21:10, 19 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vinsinna|2018-10-19T19:10:00.000Z|Kenraiz|2018-10-18T18:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Kenraiz|2018-10-19T19:21:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-19T19:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Vinsinna|2018-10-21T12:40:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-19T19:10:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-19T19:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vinsinna&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Vinsinna|2018-10-19T19:10:00.000Z|Kenraiz|2018-10-18T18:45:00.000Z"></span><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Kenraiz|2018-10-19T19:21:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-19T19:10:00.000Z"></span>Ja nie ingeruję, bo musiałbym przeanalizować treść i źródło, by nie popełnić błędu, ale generalnie jest tak, że odnośnik wstawiać należy precyzyjnie za fragmentem tekstu, który uźródławia, czyli tak jak piszesz. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Kenraiz" title="Wikipedysta:Kenraiz">Kenraiz</a> <small>(<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Kenraiz" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Kenraiz">dyskusja</a>)</small> 21:21, 19 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Kenraiz|2018-10-19T19:21:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-19T19:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-19T19:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Kenraiz&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Kenraiz|2018-10-19T19:21:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-19T19:10:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Vinsinna|2018-10-21T12:40:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-19T19:10:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Kenraiz" title="Wikipedysta:Kenraiz">Kenraiz</a> Rozumiem, dziękuję. :) <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedystka:Vinsinna" title="Wikipedystka:Vinsinna">Vinsinna</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedystki:Vinsinna" title="Dyskusja wikipedystki:Vinsinna">dyskusja</a>) 14:40, 21 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vinsinna|2018-10-21T12:40:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-19T19:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-21T12:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vinsinna&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Vinsinna|2018-10-21T12:40:00.000Z|Vinsinna|2018-10-19T19:10:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Czyz1|2018-10-21T12:45:00.000Z|Tytuł_filmu"></span>W artykule o filmie <i>November man</i>, który napisałem, został zmieniony tytuł na <i><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Listopadowy_cz%C5%82owiek" class="mw-redirect" title="Listopadowy człowiek">Listopadowy człowiek</a></i>. Jest to polskie, dosłowne tłumaczenie, niemniej film szedł w polskich kinach pod amerykańskim tytułem i na całym świecie jest znany jako <i>November man</i> (nikt tego nie tłumaczy). Jest to przecież pseudonim głównego bohatera (jak James Bond). Filmweb podaje też oryginalny tytuł. Może powinienem najpierw napisać do @<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Artur_Andrzej" title="Wikipedysta:Artur Andrzej">Artur Andrzej</a>, który jest autorem tych zmian, ale dla mnie ważna jest dyskusja, czy tak w ogóle można robić. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Czyz1" title="Wikipedysta:Czyz1">Czyz1</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Czyz1" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Czyz1">dyskusja</a>) 14:45, 21 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Czyz1|2018-10-21T12:45:00.000Z|Tytu\u0142_filmu&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Teukros|2018-10-21T17:12:00.000Z|Czyz1|2018-10-21T12:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Mike210381|2018-10-21T19:25:00.000Z|Czyz1|2018-10-21T12:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Aotearoa|2018-10-22T15:26:00.000Z|Czyz1|2018-10-21T12:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Eurohunter|2018-10-23T16:44:00.000Z|Czyz1|2018-10-21T12:45:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-21T12:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Czyz1&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Czyz1|2018-10-21T12:45:00.000Z|Tytuł_filmu"></span>W artykule o filmie <i>November man</i>, który napisałem, został zmieniony tytuł na <i><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Listopadowy_cz%C5%82owiek" class="mw-redirect" title="Listopadowy człowiek">Listopadowy człowiek</a></i>. Jest to polskie, dosłowne tłumaczenie, niemniej film szedł w polskich kinach pod amerykańskim tytułem i na całym świecie jest znany jako <i>November man</i> (nikt tego nie tłumaczy). Jest to przecież pseudonim głównego bohatera (jak James Bond). Filmweb podaje też oryginalny tytuł. Może powinienem najpierw napisać do @<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Artur_Andrzej" title="Wikipedysta:Artur Andrzej">Artur Andrzej</a>, który jest autorem tych zmian, ale dla mnie ważna jest dyskusja, czy tak w ogóle można robić. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Czyz1" title="Wikipedysta:Czyz1">Czyz1</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Czyz1" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Czyz1">dyskusja</a>) 14:45, 21 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Czyz1|2018-10-21T12:45:00.000Z|Tytu\u0142_filmu&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Teukros|2018-10-21T17:12:00.000Z|Czyz1|2018-10-21T12:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Mike210381|2018-10-21T19:25:00.000Z|Czyz1|2018-10-21T12:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Aotearoa|2018-10-22T15:26:00.000Z|Czyz1|2018-10-21T12:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Eurohunter|2018-10-23T16:44:00.000Z|Czyz1|2018-10-21T12:45:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-21T12:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Czyz1&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Teukros|2018-10-21T17:12:00.000Z|Czyz1|2018-10-21T12:45:00.000Z"></span>Wygląda na to, że przynajmniej w telewizji film był emitowany pod tytułem <i>Listopadowy człowiek</i> (zob. te wyniki wyszukiwania: https://www.google.com/search?q="listopadowy+człowiek"+film+-wikipedia&amp;ei=3LLMW4bgFI32kwXew4KwBw&amp;start=0&amp;sa=N&amp;biw=1210&amp;bih=573). W takiej sytuacji zwyczajowo stosujemy tytuł w języku polskim, także wtedy, gdy film jest szeroko znany pod tytułem w języku angielskim (co jest normą). --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Teukros" title="Wikipedysta:Teukros">Teukros</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Teukros" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Teukros">dyskusja</a>) 19:12, 21 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Teukros|2018-10-21T17:12:00.000Z|Czyz1|2018-10-21T12:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Czyz1|2018-10-21T19:09:00.000Z|Teukros|2018-10-21T17:12:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-21T17:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Teukros&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Teukros|2018-10-21T17:12:00.000Z|Czyz1|2018-10-21T12:45:00.000Z"></span><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Czyz1|2018-10-21T19:09:00.000Z|Teukros|2018-10-21T17:12:00.000Z"></span>No to bardzo dziwne, bo to film kinowy a nie telewizyjny. W takim razie polska Wikipedia, jako jedyna na świecie, będzie mieć zmieniony tytuł i „nazwisko” głównej postaci. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Czyz1" title="Wikipedysta:Czyz1">Czyz1</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Czyz1" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Czyz1">dyskusja</a>) 21:09, 21 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Czyz1|2018-10-21T19:09:00.000Z|Teukros|2018-10-21T17:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-21T19:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Czyz1&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Czyz1|2018-10-21T19:09:00.000Z|Teukros|2018-10-21T17:12:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Mike210381|2018-10-21T19:25:00.000Z|Czyz1|2018-10-21T12:45:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Teukros" title="Wikipedysta:Teukros">Teukros</a> zwyczajowo akurat stosujemy tytuł pod jakim film był dystrybuowany, czyli powinno być jak najbardziej <i>November man</i>. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Mike210381" title="Wikipedysta:Mike210381">Mike210381</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Mike210381" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Mike210381">dyskusja</a>) 21:25, 21 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mike210381|2018-10-21T19:25:00.000Z|Czyz1|2018-10-21T12:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-21T19:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mike210381&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Mike210381|2018-10-21T19:25:00.000Z|Czyz1|2018-10-21T12:45:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Aotearoa|2018-10-22T15:26:00.000Z|Czyz1|2018-10-21T12:45:00.000Z"></span>Chyba jednak stosujemy najpowszechniej używany tytuł. Taki <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_Dancing" title="Dirty Dancing">Dirty Dancing</a> wszedł u nas jako <i>Wirujący sex</i> – czy zatem pod tym zapomnianym (i absurdalnym) polskim tytułem powinniśmy trzymać ten film? <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Aotearoa" title="Wikipedysta:Aotearoa">Aotearoa</a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Aotearoa" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Aotearoa"> dyskusja</a> 17:26, 22 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Aotearoa|2018-10-22T15:26:00.000Z|Czyz1|2018-10-21T12:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Czyz1|2018-10-23T10:29:00.000Z|Aotearoa|2018-10-22T15:26:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-22T15:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Aotearoa&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Aotearoa|2018-10-22T15:26:00.000Z|Czyz1|2018-10-21T12:45:00.000Z"></span><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Czyz1|2018-10-23T10:29:00.000Z|Aotearoa|2018-10-22T15:26:00.000Z"></span>Dobry przykład. Albo <i><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Woman" title="Pretty Woman">Pretty Woman</a></i>. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Czyz1" title="Wikipedysta:Czyz1">Czyz1</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Czyz1" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Czyz1">dyskusja</a>) 12:29, 23 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Czyz1|2018-10-23T10:29:00.000Z|Aotearoa|2018-10-22T15:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-23T10:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Czyz1&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Czyz1|2018-10-23T10:29:00.000Z|Aotearoa|2018-10-22T15:26:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Eurohunter|2018-10-23T16:44:00.000Z|Czyz1|2018-10-21T12:45:00.000Z"></span>Ten tytuł powinien być uwzględniony we wstępie (wraz z przypisem). <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Eurohunter" title="Wikipedysta:Eurohunter">Eurohunter</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Eurohunter" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Eurohunter">dyskusja</a>) 18:44, 23 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Eurohunter|2018-10-23T16:44:00.000Z|Czyz1|2018-10-21T12:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-23T16:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Eurohunter&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Eurohunter|2018-10-23T16:44:00.000Z|Czyz1|2018-10-21T12:45:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Teukros|2018-10-21T17:12:00.000Z|Czyz1|2018-10-21T12:45:00.000Z"></span>Wygląda na to, że przynajmniej w telewizji film był emitowany pod tytułem <i>Listopadowy człowiek</i> (zob. te wyniki wyszukiwania: https://www.google.com/search?q="listopadowy+człowiek"+film+-wikipedia&amp;ei=3LLMW4bgFI32kwXew4KwBw&amp;start=0&amp;sa=N&amp;biw=1210&amp;bih=573). W takiej sytuacji zwyczajowo stosujemy tytuł w języku polskim, także wtedy, gdy film jest szeroko znany pod tytułem w języku angielskim (co jest normą). --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Teukros" title="Wikipedysta:Teukros">Teukros</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Teukros" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Teukros">dyskusja</a>) 19:12, 21 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Teukros|2018-10-21T17:12:00.000Z|Czyz1|2018-10-21T12:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Czyz1|2018-10-21T19:09:00.000Z|Teukros|2018-10-21T17:12:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-21T17:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Teukros&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Teukros|2018-10-21T17:12:00.000Z|Czyz1|2018-10-21T12:45:00.000Z"></span><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Czyz1|2018-10-21T19:09:00.000Z|Teukros|2018-10-21T17:12:00.000Z"></span>No to bardzo dziwne, bo to film kinowy a nie telewizyjny. W takim razie polska Wikipedia, jako jedyna na świecie, będzie mieć zmieniony tytuł i „nazwisko” głównej postaci. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Czyz1" title="Wikipedysta:Czyz1">Czyz1</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Czyz1" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Czyz1">dyskusja</a>) 21:09, 21 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Czyz1|2018-10-21T19:09:00.000Z|Teukros|2018-10-21T17:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-21T19:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Czyz1&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Czyz1|2018-10-21T19:09:00.000Z|Teukros|2018-10-21T17:12:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Mike210381|2018-10-21T19:25:00.000Z|Czyz1|2018-10-21T12:45:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Teukros" title="Wikipedysta:Teukros">Teukros</a> zwyczajowo akurat stosujemy tytuł pod jakim film był dystrybuowany, czyli powinno być jak najbardziej <i>November man</i>. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Mike210381" title="Wikipedysta:Mike210381">Mike210381</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Mike210381" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Mike210381">dyskusja</a>) 21:25, 21 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mike210381|2018-10-21T19:25:00.000Z|Czyz1|2018-10-21T12:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-21T19:25:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mike210381&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Mike210381|2018-10-21T19:25:00.000Z|Czyz1|2018-10-21T12:45:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Aotearoa|2018-10-22T15:26:00.000Z|Czyz1|2018-10-21T12:45:00.000Z"></span>Chyba jednak stosujemy najpowszechniej używany tytuł. Taki <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_Dancing" title="Dirty Dancing">Dirty Dancing</a> wszedł u nas jako <i>Wirujący sex</i> – czy zatem pod tym zapomnianym (i absurdalnym) polskim tytułem powinniśmy trzymać ten film? <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Aotearoa" title="Wikipedysta:Aotearoa">Aotearoa</a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Aotearoa" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Aotearoa"> dyskusja</a> 17:26, 22 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Aotearoa|2018-10-22T15:26:00.000Z|Czyz1|2018-10-21T12:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Czyz1|2018-10-23T10:29:00.000Z|Aotearoa|2018-10-22T15:26:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-22T15:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Aotearoa&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Aotearoa|2018-10-22T15:26:00.000Z|Czyz1|2018-10-21T12:45:00.000Z"></span><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Czyz1|2018-10-23T10:29:00.000Z|Aotearoa|2018-10-22T15:26:00.000Z"></span>Dobry przykład. Albo <i><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Woman" title="Pretty Woman">Pretty Woman</a></i>. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Czyz1" title="Wikipedysta:Czyz1">Czyz1</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Czyz1" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Czyz1">dyskusja</a>) 12:29, 23 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Czyz1|2018-10-23T10:29:00.000Z|Aotearoa|2018-10-22T15:26:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-23T10:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Czyz1&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Czyz1|2018-10-23T10:29:00.000Z|Aotearoa|2018-10-22T15:26:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Eurohunter|2018-10-23T16:44:00.000Z|Czyz1|2018-10-21T12:45:00.000Z"></span>Ten tytuł powinien być uwzględniony we wstępie (wraz z przypisem). <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Eurohunter" title="Wikipedysta:Eurohunter">Eurohunter</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Eurohunter" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Eurohunter">dyskusja</a>) 18:44, 23 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Eurohunter|2018-10-23T16:44:00.000Z|Czyz1|2018-10-21T12:45:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-23T16:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Eurohunter&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Eurohunter|2018-10-23T16:44:00.000Z|Czyz1|2018-10-21T12:45:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
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 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Stok|2018-10-23T19:16:00.000Z|Osiedla"></span>Przy okazji regeneracji infoboksu dzielnica, Malarz zrobił zestawienia artykułów z tym infoboksem. Przeanalizowałem sekcję SIMC i   na pierwszy ogień proponuję 266 artykułów o nazwie rozpoczynającej się od <i>Osiedle</i> i nazw tych nie ma w zestawieniu PRNG. Piszę tu bo do <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiprojekt:Polskie_miejscowo%C5%9Bci/osiedla" title="Wikiprojekt:Polskie miejscowości/osiedla">Wikiprojekt:Polskie miejscowości/osiedla</a> podstrony wikiprojektu nikt nie zajrzy, a podjęcie działań będzie wymagało dyskusji. 
 </p><p>Zastanawiałem się czy nie zgłosić tego do Zgłoś błąd. 
-</p><p><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Stok" title="Wikipedysta:Stok">StoK</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Stok" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Stok">dyskusja</a>) 21:16, 23 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Stok|2018-10-23T19:16:00.000Z|Osiedla&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-23T19:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Stok&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+</p><p><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Stok" title="Wikipedysta:Stok">StoK</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Stok" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Stok">dyskusja</a>) 21:16, 23 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Stok|2018-10-23T19:16:00.000Z|Osiedla&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-23T19:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Stok&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Eurohunter|2018-10-23T21:59:00.000Z|Pokolenie_Z"></span>"pokolenie ludzi urodzonych w Polsce" – nie ludzi w Polsce. Czy ktoś to potrafi naprawić? <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Eurohunter" title="Wikipedysta:Eurohunter">Eurohunter</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Eurohunter" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Eurohunter">dyskusja</a>) 23:59, 23 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Eurohunter|2018-10-23T21:59:00.000Z|Pokolenie_Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-23T21:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Eurohunter&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Eurohunter|2018-10-23T21:59:00.000Z|Pokolenie_Z"></span>"pokolenie ludzi urodzonych w Polsce" – nie ludzi w Polsce. Czy ktoś to potrafi naprawić? <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Eurohunter" title="Wikipedysta:Eurohunter">Eurohunter</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Eurohunter" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Eurohunter">dyskusja</a>) 23:59, 23 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Eurohunter|2018-10-23T21:59:00.000Z|Pokolenie_Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-23T21:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Eurohunter&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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 <h2><span id="Zofia_Wi.C4.99c.C5.82aw.C3.B3wna_-_korekta_umiejscowienia_grafiki"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Zofia_Więcławówna_-_korekta_umiejscowienia_grafiki" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Zofia_Wi\u0119c\u0142aw\u00f3wna_-_korekta_umiejscowienia_grafiki|2018-10-25T07:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Agrezt|2018-10-25T07:59:00.000Z|Zofia_Wi\u0119c\u0142aw\u00f3wna_-_korekta_umiejscowienia_grafiki&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Zofia_Więcławówna_-_korekta_umiejscowienia_grafiki|2018-10-25T07:59:00.000Z"></span>Zofia Więcławówna - korekta umiejscowienia grafiki<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Zofia_Więcławówna_-_korekta_umiejscowienia_grafiki|2018-10-25T07:59:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Agrezt|2018-10-25T07:59:00.000Z|Zofia_Więcławówna_-_korekta_umiejscowienia_grafiki"></span>Witam, nie mam pojęcia, czy to dobry dział na tego rodzaju problemy, ale postanowiłem spróbować. Nie dalej jak 2 dni temu wrzuciłem zdjęcie grobu Zofii Więcławówny, zwykle administratorzy nie robią żadnych korekt, ale w tym przypadku wikipedystka Milagros aal przeniosła to zdjęcie do infoboxu aktorki (wcześniej znajdowało się pod nim). Pierwszy raz spotykam się z czymś takim, bo zwykle takie zdjęcia są umiejscowione pod infoboxem lub jeszcze niżej i wtedy wygląda to, moim zdaniem, znacznie lepiej. Jak sądzę, w infoboxie powinno być raczej zdjęcie z twarzą aktorki albo tylko podstawowe dane o niej. Gdy widnieje tam grób, wygląda to co najmniej dziwnie. Dodam jeszcze, że nigdy nie spotkałem się na Wikipedii z tego typu podejściem, by właśnie zdjęcie grobu wrzucać do infoboxu. Gdy poprosiłem ową wikipedystkę, by przywróciła poprzednią wersję strony i przeniosła to zdjęcie, to obrażona odpisała tymi słowy: "W takim razie proszę sobie zmienić skoro "będzie lepiej" i tyle w tym temacie. Na Wikipedii podpisujemy się za pomocą czterech tyld. I tutaj nie dyskutujemy czy będzie lepiej. Po prostu tak jest." Chętnie zmieniłbym to sam, ale nie jestem administratorem i z tego co widzę, nie posiadam do tego uprawnień. Nie chcę już wchodzić w dyskusje z tą Panią, bo widzę, że to nie ma sensu. Więc proszę niejako o interwencję z zewnątrz. Fajnie, jeśli ktoś kompetentny cofnąłby ostatnią edycję Milagros aal, zwłaszcza, że wyraziła na to zgodę. To tyle, czekam niecierpliwie na odpowiedź i mam nadzieję, że ta sprawa jakoś się rozwiąże.
-</p><p><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedysta:Agrezt&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Wikipedysta:Agrezt (strona nie istnieje)">Agrezt</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Agrezt" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Agrezt">dyskusja</a>) 09:59, 25 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Agrezt|2018-10-25T07:59:00.000Z|Zofia_Wi\u0119c\u0142aw\u00f3wna_-_korekta_umiejscowienia_grafiki&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ciacho5|2018-10-25T08:15:00.000Z|Agrezt|2018-10-25T07:59:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-25T07:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Agrezt&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+</p><p><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedysta:Agrezt&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Wikipedysta:Agrezt (strona nie istnieje)">Agrezt</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Agrezt" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Agrezt">dyskusja</a>) 09:59, 25 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Agrezt|2018-10-25T07:59:00.000Z|Zofia_Wi\u0119c\u0142aw\u00f3wna_-_korekta_umiejscowienia_grafiki&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ciacho5|2018-10-25T08:15:00.000Z|Agrezt|2018-10-25T07:59:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-25T07:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Agrezt&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ciacho5|2018-10-25T08:15:00.000Z|Agrezt|2018-10-25T07:59:00.000Z"></span>Bywało dość często, że wstawiano zdjęcie nagrobka do infoboksu, bo innych nie było. @<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedystka:Milagros_aal" title="Wikipedystka:Milagros aal">Milagros aal</a> Czas jakiś temu sprawę przedyskutowano i raczej była zgoda, że tak nie należy robić. Możesz sam zmienić, nie trzeba do tego admina. Wejdź w historię i <i>anuluj edycję</i> Milagros, z komentarzem, <i>zdjęcie nagrobka nie do infoboksu</i> lub podobnym (o ile przeniesienie zdjęcia było całą zmianą). Ogólnie mówiąc, admini nie mają uprawnień do "wiedzenia lepiej". Zazwyczaj wiedzą lepiej z racji długiego stażu, ale dyskutować z nimi można.  <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Ciacho5" title="Wikipedysta:Ciacho5">Ciacho5</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Ciacho5" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Ciacho5">dyskusja</a>) 10:15, 25 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ciacho5|2018-10-25T08:15:00.000Z|Agrezt|2018-10-25T07:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-25T08:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ciacho5&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ciacho5|2018-10-25T08:15:00.000Z|Agrezt|2018-10-25T07:59:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ciacho5|2018-10-25T08:15:00.000Z|Agrezt|2018-10-25T07:59:00.000Z"></span>Bywało dość często, że wstawiano zdjęcie nagrobka do infoboksu, bo innych nie było. @<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedystka:Milagros_aal" title="Wikipedystka:Milagros aal">Milagros aal</a> Czas jakiś temu sprawę przedyskutowano i raczej była zgoda, że tak nie należy robić. Możesz sam zmienić, nie trzeba do tego admina. Wejdź w historię i <i>anuluj edycję</i> Milagros, z komentarzem, <i>zdjęcie nagrobka nie do infoboksu</i> lub podobnym (o ile przeniesienie zdjęcia było całą zmianą). Ogólnie mówiąc, admini nie mają uprawnień do "wiedzenia lepiej". Zazwyczaj wiedzą lepiej z racji długiego stażu, ale dyskutować z nimi można.  <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Ciacho5" title="Wikipedysta:Ciacho5">Ciacho5</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Ciacho5" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Ciacho5">dyskusja</a>) 10:15, 25 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ciacho5|2018-10-25T08:15:00.000Z|Agrezt|2018-10-25T07:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-25T08:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ciacho5&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ciacho5|2018-10-25T08:15:00.000Z|Agrezt|2018-10-25T07:59:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Bitwa_pod_Brunete" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Bitwa_pod_Brunete|2018-10-14T19:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Andrzej1993|2018-10-14T19:29:00.000Z|Bitwa_pod_Brunete&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Bitwa_pod_Brunete|2018-10-14T19:29:00.000Z"></span><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitwa_pod_Brunete" title="Bitwa pod Brunete">Bitwa pod Brunete</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h|Bitwa_pod_Brunete|2018-10-14T19:29:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Andrzej1993|2018-10-14T19:29:00.000Z|Bitwa_pod_Brunete"></span>Czy mógłbym poprosić o przyjrzenie się hasłu przez bezstronnego administratora oraz o ewentualną interwencję? Aktualnie tam operujący osobnik nadużywa swojej władzy poprzez:
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@@ -246,36 +246,36 @@ Czy ta dyskusja jest o encyklopedii papierowej, czy elektronicznej? Jeśli elekt
 <li>usuwanie uźródłowionych informacji.</li></ul>
 <p>Przykładem niech będzie dostarczenie przeze mnie źródeł (na prośbę wspomnianego osobnika), które udowadniały treść wprowadzonych zmian. Administrator treści te usunął, <i>bo tak</i>, w zasadzie nie podając żadnego powodu, dla którego to zrobił. Ponadto, administrator wycofał moje edycje dotyczące etymologii (zamienienie haseł na wielokrotnie powtórzone słowo <i>rebeliant</i>), mimo również dostarczonego źródła. 
 </p><p>Czy nie kwalifikuje się to jako wandalizm? Bardzo proszę o interwencję i pomoc. 
-</p><p><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Andrzej1993" title="Wikipedysta:Andrzej1993">Andrzej1993</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Andrzej1993" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Andrzej1993">dyskusja</a>) 21:29, 14 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Andrzej1993|2018-10-14T19:29:00.000Z|Bitwa_pod_Brunete&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|KamilK7|2018-10-25T12:59:00.000Z|Andrzej1993|2018-10-14T19:29:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-14T19:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Andrzej1993&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+</p><p><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Andrzej1993" title="Wikipedysta:Andrzej1993">Andrzej1993</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Andrzej1993" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Andrzej1993">dyskusja</a>) 21:29, 14 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Andrzej1993|2018-10-14T19:29:00.000Z|Bitwa_pod_Brunete&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|KamilK7|2018-10-25T12:59:00.000Z|Andrzej1993|2018-10-14T19:29:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-14T19:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Andrzej1993&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|KamilK7|2018-10-25T12:59:00.000Z|Andrzej1993|2018-10-14T19:29:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Andrzej1993" title="Wikipedysta:Andrzej1993">Andrzej1993</a> ale to ty zacząłeś od zastępowania jednej konwencji nazewniczej (popartej źródłem) inną (również uźródłowioną). A @<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Tokyotown8" title="Wikipedysta:Tokyotown8">Tokyotown8</a> nie "nadużył swojej władzy" do kasowania żadnych faktów i uźródłowionych informacji, tylko zabezpieczył stronę, aby przerwać wojnę edycyjną. Widzę, że po minięciu okresu zabezpieczenia znów bez dialogu z oponentem zmieniłeś na swoją wersję usuwając znajdujące się tam wcześniej terminy ze źródłem. Właściwie to powinienem to anulować, ale potem dodałeś inne, być możne ważne informacje, więc się na razie, z braku czasu na głębszą analizę, powstrzymam. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:KamilK7" title="Wikipedysta:KamilK7">KamilK7</a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:KamilK7" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:KamilK7">✉</a> 14:59, 25 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|KamilK7|2018-10-25T12:59:00.000Z|Andrzej1993|2018-10-14T19:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-25T12:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;KamilK7&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|KamilK7|2018-10-25T12:59:00.000Z|Andrzej1993|2018-10-14T19:29:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|KamilK7|2018-10-25T12:59:00.000Z|Andrzej1993|2018-10-14T19:29:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Andrzej1993" title="Wikipedysta:Andrzej1993">Andrzej1993</a> ale to ty zacząłeś od zastępowania jednej konwencji nazewniczej (popartej źródłem) inną (również uźródłowioną). A @<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Tokyotown8" title="Wikipedysta:Tokyotown8">Tokyotown8</a> nie "nadużył swojej władzy" do kasowania żadnych faktów i uźródłowionych informacji, tylko zabezpieczył stronę, aby przerwać wojnę edycyjną. Widzę, że po minięciu okresu zabezpieczenia znów bez dialogu z oponentem zmieniłeś na swoją wersję usuwając znajdujące się tam wcześniej terminy ze źródłem. Właściwie to powinienem to anulować, ale potem dodałeś inne, być możne ważne informacje, więc się na razie, z braku czasu na głębszą analizę, powstrzymam. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:KamilK7" title="Wikipedysta:KamilK7">KamilK7</a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:KamilK7" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:KamilK7">✉</a> 14:59, 25 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|KamilK7|2018-10-25T12:59:00.000Z|Andrzej1993|2018-10-14T19:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-25T12:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;KamilK7&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|KamilK7|2018-10-25T12:59:00.000Z|Andrzej1993|2018-10-14T19:29:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
 <h2><span id="Podw.C3.B3jne_nazwiska_w_infoboksach"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Podwójne_nazwiska_w_infoboksach" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Podw\u00f3jne_nazwiska_w_infoboksach|2018-10-25T20:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Karol Szapsza|2018-10-25T20:40:00.000Z|Podw\u00f3jne_nazwiska_w_infoboksach&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Podwójne_nazwiska_w_infoboksach|2018-10-25T20:40:00.000Z"></span>Podwójne nazwiska w infoboksach<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Podwójne_nazwiska_w_infoboksach|2018-10-25T20:40:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Karol Szapsza|2018-10-25T20:40:00.000Z|Podwójne_nazwiska_w_infoboksach"></span>Zapraszam do dyskusji w wątku w stoliku technicznym: <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:TECH#Podwójne_nazwiska_w_infoboksach" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TECH">Podwójne nazwiska w infoboksach</a>. Rozpatrujemy problem podwójnego przedstawiania nazwisk w infoboksach biogramów Polaków. <b><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Karol_Szapsza" title="Wikipedysta:Karol Szapsza"><font style="color: #0645ad;">Karol Szapsza</font></a></b> (<i><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Karol_Szapsza" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Karol Szapsza"><font style="color: #0645ad;">dyskusja</font></a></i>) 22:40, 25 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Karol Szapsza|2018-10-25T20:40:00.000Z|Podw\u00f3jne_nazwiska_w_infoboksach&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-25T20:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Karol Szapsza&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Karol Szapsza|2018-10-25T20:40:00.000Z|Podwójne_nazwiska_w_infoboksach"></span>Zapraszam do dyskusji w wątku w stoliku technicznym: <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:TECH#Podwójne_nazwiska_w_infoboksach" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TECH">Podwójne nazwiska w infoboksach</a>. Rozpatrujemy problem podwójnego przedstawiania nazwisk w infoboksach biogramów Polaków. <b><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Karol_Szapsza" title="Wikipedysta:Karol Szapsza"><font style="color: #0645ad;">Karol Szapsza</font></a></b> (<i><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Karol_Szapsza" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Karol Szapsza"><font style="color: #0645ad;">dyskusja</font></a></i>) 22:40, 25 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Karol Szapsza|2018-10-25T20:40:00.000Z|Podw\u00f3jne_nazwiska_w_infoboksach&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-25T20:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Karol Szapsza&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
 <span data-mw-comment-end="c|Karol Szapsza|2018-10-25T20:40:00.000Z|Podwójne_nazwiska_w_infoboksach"></span></p><p>Jak wyśrodkować tekst w tabelce (w komórce zwykłej)?
 </p>
 <h2><span id="Facebook_jako_.C5.BAr.C3.B3d.C5.82o"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Facebook_jako_źródło" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Facebook_jako_\u017ar\u00f3d\u0142o|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z|Facebook_jako_\u017ar\u00f3d\u0142o&quot;,&quot;c|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T17:14:00.000Z|Facebook_jako_\u017ar\u00f3d\u0142o&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Facebook_jako_źródło|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z"></span>Facebook jako źródło<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Facebook_jako_źródło|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z|Facebook_jako_źródło"></span>Newbe wkleił wielki blok info do biogramu, ja go skasowałem, bo bez źródeł, user przywrócił wraz ze wskazaniem źródła - profilu na Facebooku, które jak się wydaje jest oficjalnym? kontem związku jiu jitsu <a class="external autonumber" href="https://pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Krzysztof_Kondratowicz&amp;diff=54823977&amp;oldid=54823896">[3]</a>. Wklejony tekst wymaga skrótów i zmiany na język neutralny, ale to łatwo zrobić. Tyle, że nie wiem czy takie źródło może być. Bo gdyby ten sam tekst był na www stronie związku to jako źródło danych byłby OK, a co ze stroną na FB? Czy to jest oficjalny profil i jeśli tak, to czy jest WER źródłem w świetle naszych zasad? --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Piotr967" title="Wikipedysta:Piotr967">Piotr967</a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Piotr967" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Piotr967"><i>podyskutujmy</i></a> 18:01, 23 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z|Facebook_jako_\u017ar\u00f3d\u0142o&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Eurohunter|2018-10-23T16:43:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Tokyotown8|2018-10-23T16:46:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|109.233.47.132|2018-10-23T17:56:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Panek|2018-10-23T20:50:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Kenraiz|2018-10-23T21:36:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|KamilK7|2018-10-25T12:09:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Piotr967&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z|Facebook_jako_źródło"></span>Newbe wkleił wielki blok info do biogramu, ja go skasowałem, bo bez źródeł, user przywrócił wraz ze wskazaniem źródła - profilu na Facebooku, które jak się wydaje jest oficjalnym? kontem związku jiu jitsu <a class="external autonumber" href="https://pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Krzysztof_Kondratowicz&amp;diff=54823977&amp;oldid=54823896">[3]</a>. Wklejony tekst wymaga skrótów i zmiany na język neutralny, ale to łatwo zrobić. Tyle, że nie wiem czy takie źródło może być. Bo gdyby ten sam tekst był na www stronie związku to jako źródło danych byłby OK, a co ze stroną na FB? Czy to jest oficjalny profil i jeśli tak, to czy jest WER źródłem w świetle naszych zasad? --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Piotr967" title="Wikipedysta:Piotr967">Piotr967</a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Piotr967" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Piotr967"><i>podyskutujmy</i></a> 18:01, 23 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z|Facebook_jako_\u017ar\u00f3d\u0142o&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Eurohunter|2018-10-23T16:43:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Tokyotown8|2018-10-23T16:46:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|109.233.47.132|2018-10-23T17:56:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Panek|2018-10-23T20:50:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Kenraiz|2018-10-23T21:36:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|KamilK7|2018-10-25T12:09:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Piotr967&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Eurohunter|2018-10-23T16:43:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z"></span>Oficjalny profil może być źródłem. Skąd wątpliwości? <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Eurohunter" title="Wikipedysta:Eurohunter">Eurohunter</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Eurohunter" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Eurohunter">dyskusja</a>) 18:43, 23 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Eurohunter|2018-10-23T16:43:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-23T16:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Eurohunter&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Eurohunter|2018-10-23T16:43:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Tokyotown8|2018-10-23T16:46:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z"></span>Tekst na fb jako źródło? Czego? Autopromocji? Peanów na własną cześć? Tworzenia "własnej" strony bo tylko to widzę w przytoczonym przykładzie??--<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Tokyotown8" title="Wikipedysta:Tokyotown8">Tokyotown8</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Tokyotown8" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Tokyotown8">dyskusja</a>) 18:46, 23 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Tokyotown8|2018-10-23T16:46:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:52:00.000Z|Tokyotown8|2018-10-23T16:46:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-23T16:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Tokyotown8&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Tokyotown8|2018-10-23T16:46:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:52:00.000Z|Tokyotown8|2018-10-23T16:46:00.000Z"></span>czego? Faktów, dat, np zakończenia studiów, co studiował, kiedy i jakie funkcje w związku pełnił. O peanach itp. przecież pisałem - do usunięcia. Skupmy się, czy ta FB strona może być źródłem podstawowych danych biograficznych? --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Piotr967" title="Wikipedysta:Piotr967">Piotr967</a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Piotr967" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Piotr967"><i>podyskutujmy</i></a> 18:52, 23 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:52:00.000Z|Tokyotown8|2018-10-23T16:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Tokyotown8|2018-10-23T17:16:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Mpn|2018-10-23T17:40:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-23T16:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Piotr967&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:52:00.000Z|Tokyotown8|2018-10-23T16:46:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Tokyotown8|2018-10-23T17:16:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:52:00.000Z"></span>Fb to strona reklamowa, mająca na celu zaprezentowanie się w jak najlepszym świetle. Może to dotyczyć zarówno peanów na swoją cześć jak i faktów. Zbyt wielkie pole do manipulacji, przedstawienia wszystkiego w korzystnym, najlepszym obrazie, bijemy się o lajki. Jestem przeciwny--<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Tokyotown8" title="Wikipedysta:Tokyotown8">Tokyotown8</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Tokyotown8" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Tokyotown8">dyskusja</a>) 19:16, 23 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Tokyotown8|2018-10-23T17:16:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-23T17:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Tokyotown8&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Tokyotown8|2018-10-23T17:16:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:52:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Mpn|2018-10-23T17:40:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:52:00.000Z"></span>Każdy sobie może napisać, że coś studiował, i dowolną inną bzdurę. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Mpn" title="Wikipedysta:Mpn">Mpn</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Mpn" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Mpn">dyskusja</a>) 19:40, 23 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mpn|2018-10-23T17:40:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Szoltys|2018-10-23T17:44:00.000Z|Mpn|2018-10-23T17:40:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-23T17:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mpn&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Mpn|2018-10-23T17:40:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:52:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Szoltys|2018-10-23T17:44:00.000Z|Mpn|2018-10-23T17:40:00.000Z"></span>Z drugiej strony – na oficjalnej stronie www też można sobie wpisać bzdury. <b><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Szoltys" title="Wikipedysta:Szoltys">Szoltys</a> <small><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Szoltys" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Szoltys">[Re: ]</a></small></b> 19:44, 23 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Szoltys|2018-10-23T17:44:00.000Z|Mpn|2018-10-23T17:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-23T17:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Szoltys&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Szoltys|2018-10-23T17:44:00.000Z|Mpn|2018-10-23T17:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|109.233.47.132|2018-10-23T17:56:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z"></span>Jak rozumiem, ktos ze zwiazku judocznego pofatygowal sie i poszukal informacji o zmarlym dzialaczu. Przyjalbym, o ile nie ma tam kontrowersyjnych spraw. Inna rzecz, jezeli ktos na stronie oficjalnej zespolu twierdzi, ze dawali koncerty dla tysiecy osob i jest to jedyne zrodlo. Jesli ktos na swoim fejsie mowi o skonczonej szkole podstawowej, to raczej bym wierzyl. Jesli sa potwierdzenia doktoratu, to uwierze w podany rok ukonczenia studiow czy u kogo pisal magisterke. Natomiast jesli polityk/dzialacz/muzykant pisze sobie o swoim wyzszym wyksztalceniu - bardzo bym byl ostrozny (bo latwo wpisac, ze ma wyzsze, a pozniej sie ewentualnie tlumaczyc, ze prawie, bo studiowal 5 lat (coz z tego, ze zawsze na pierwszym roku). --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specjalna:Wk%C5%82ad/109.233.47.132" title="Specjalna:Wkład/109.233.47.132">109.233.47.132</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:109.233.47.132" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:109.233.47.132">dyskusja</a>) 19:56, 23 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|109.233.47.132|2018-10-23T17:56:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-23T17:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;109.233.47.132&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|109.233.47.132|2018-10-23T17:56:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Panek|2018-10-23T20:50:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z"></span>Niepisana zasada mówi, że do źródeł podawanych na prywatnych stronach podchodzimy ostrożnie, ale w sytuacjach niebudzących podejrzeń o manipulację, akceptujemy je. Inna niepisana, ale praktykowana, że FB to źródło z czarnej listy. Jest to niekonsekwencja. Nieraz podmioty takie czy inne miały przez parę lat stronę w stylu www.cośtam.pl, po czym od jakiegoś czasu wstukanie takiego adresu prowadzi przekieroawaniem do fanpejdża na FB. Od paru lat niektóre nowe podmioty nawet nie zakładają tradycyjnych stron, tylko od razu informacje dają na fanpejdżu. Na FB można podać miejsce zamieszkania Honolulu tak samo jak na prywatnej stronie. Dla jednych może to być argument za zablokowaniem także prywatnych stron, ale moim zdaniem jest przeciwnie, trzeba się pogodzić z tym, że wpisy na FB są jakimś, mało wiarygodnym, ale jednak źródłem. (Pomijam techniczny problem z wyszukaniem czegokolwiek w potoku postów i braku historii zmian w sekcjach typu "Informacje" - to problem techniczny, a nie dotyczący wiarygodności jako takiej). <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Panek" title="Wikipedysta:Panek">Panek</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Panek" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Panek">dyskusja</a>) 22:50, 23 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Panek|2018-10-23T20:50:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-23T20:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Panek&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Panek|2018-10-23T20:50:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Kenraiz|2018-10-23T21:36:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z"></span>Mijają lata i FB przejmuje coraz częściej dawne funkcje hostingowe stając się platformą dla obecności rozmaitych osób i instytucji w Internecie. Moim zdaniem traktowany powinien być jak każda strona prywatna – z ostrożnością, ale możliwością wykorzystania w przypadku użródłowienia niekontrowersyjnych danych. Nie wiem tylko co z powoływaniem się na strony FB o ograniczonej dostępności (dla zalogowanych, dla znajomych)... <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Kenraiz" title="Wikipedysta:Kenraiz">Kenraiz</a> <small>(<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Kenraiz" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Kenraiz">dyskusja</a>)</small> 23:36, 23 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Kenraiz|2018-10-23T21:36:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-23T21:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Kenraiz&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Kenraiz|2018-10-23T21:36:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|KamilK7|2018-10-25T12:09:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z"></span>Jeżeli encyklopedyczność tematu wynika z innych, wiarygodnych i rzetelnych źródeł, to dla niektórego rodzaju danych własną stronę na FB uznaję jako źródło wystarczające. To dane takie, w których zaistnienie faktu nie budzi wątpliwości, a uzupełniane są jedynie okoliczności, w których dane wydarzenie wystąpiło. Np. wiadomo, że się urodził, ale podaje datę i miejsce urodzenia (i nie jest to np na oko 35 letnia artystka, która podaje, że urodziła się 22 lata temu w samolocie), na podstawie danych z bazy nauki widać, że ktoś ma dr. hab., a na podstawie FB podane są daty i promotorzy pracy doktorskiej oraz magisterskiej i tak dalej. Jeśli FB jest oficjalną stroną jakiejś instytucji i pisze ona o jakimś własnym działaczu rzeczy, które nie są kontrowersyjne, to też uznałbym, że FB od biedy może być dla nich źródłem. Niekiedy FB może być źródłem także dla rzeczy budzących wątpliwości, o ile zostanie to odpowiednio sformułowane. Np. dla zdania "Zdaniem KE wprowadzana dyrektywa nie spowoduje ograniczeń w zakresie tworzenia memów" źródło w postaci oficjalnej strony KE na FB bym dopuścił, pomimo, że zdanie znanej eurodeputowanej z Partii Piratów jest odmienne, choć zapewne widząc coś takiego poprawiłbym artykuł dodając wraz z przypisem informację o tej odmiennej opinii. UWAGA - wszystkie takie źródła (tak samo jak tradycyjne strony własne), aby mogły zostać uznane za źródło powinny moim zdaniem zostać zarchiwizowane i podany powinien zostać w szablonie lub inaczej adres tego archiwum - to powinno być obowiązkowe, a u nas nie jest. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:KamilK7" title="Wikipedysta:KamilK7">KamilK7</a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:KamilK7" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:KamilK7">✉</a> 14:09, 25 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|KamilK7|2018-10-25T12:09:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-25T12:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;KamilK7&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|KamilK7|2018-10-25T12:09:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T17:14:00.000Z|Facebook_jako_źródło"></span>Strony, wpisy na Fb bardzo brzydko wyglądają w przypisach, ale ich cytowanie jest dopuszczalne. Możliwości kłamania takie same jak w każdej publikacji, którą samemu się tworzy (autobiografie). <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:BasileusAutokratorPL" title="Wikipedysta:BasileusAutokratorPL">BasileusAutokratorPL</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:BasileusAutokratorPL" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:BasileusAutokratorPL">dyskusja</a>) 19:14, 25 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T17:14:00.000Z|Facebook_jako_\u017ar\u00f3d\u0142o&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|\u017byrafa\u0142|2018-10-25T18:43:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T17:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Piolodiusz|2018-10-26T05:36:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T17:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Michalwadas|2018-10-26T16:13:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T17:14:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-25T17:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;BasileusAutokratorPL&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Eurohunter|2018-10-23T16:43:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z"></span>Oficjalny profil może być źródłem. Skąd wątpliwości? <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Eurohunter" title="Wikipedysta:Eurohunter">Eurohunter</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Eurohunter" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Eurohunter">dyskusja</a>) 18:43, 23 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Eurohunter|2018-10-23T16:43:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-23T16:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Eurohunter&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Eurohunter|2018-10-23T16:43:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Tokyotown8|2018-10-23T16:46:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z"></span>Tekst na fb jako źródło? Czego? Autopromocji? Peanów na własną cześć? Tworzenia "własnej" strony bo tylko to widzę w przytoczonym przykładzie??--<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Tokyotown8" title="Wikipedysta:Tokyotown8">Tokyotown8</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Tokyotown8" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Tokyotown8">dyskusja</a>) 18:46, 23 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Tokyotown8|2018-10-23T16:46:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:52:00.000Z|Tokyotown8|2018-10-23T16:46:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-23T16:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Tokyotown8&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Tokyotown8|2018-10-23T16:46:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:52:00.000Z|Tokyotown8|2018-10-23T16:46:00.000Z"></span>czego? Faktów, dat, np zakończenia studiów, co studiował, kiedy i jakie funkcje w związku pełnił. O peanach itp. przecież pisałem - do usunięcia. Skupmy się, czy ta FB strona może być źródłem podstawowych danych biograficznych? --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Piotr967" title="Wikipedysta:Piotr967">Piotr967</a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Piotr967" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Piotr967"><i>podyskutujmy</i></a> 18:52, 23 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:52:00.000Z|Tokyotown8|2018-10-23T16:46:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Tokyotown8|2018-10-23T17:16:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Mpn|2018-10-23T17:40:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:52:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-23T16:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Piotr967&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:52:00.000Z|Tokyotown8|2018-10-23T16:46:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Tokyotown8|2018-10-23T17:16:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:52:00.000Z"></span>Fb to strona reklamowa, mająca na celu zaprezentowanie się w jak najlepszym świetle. Może to dotyczyć zarówno peanów na swoją cześć jak i faktów. Zbyt wielkie pole do manipulacji, przedstawienia wszystkiego w korzystnym, najlepszym obrazie, bijemy się o lajki. Jestem przeciwny--<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Tokyotown8" title="Wikipedysta:Tokyotown8">Tokyotown8</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Tokyotown8" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Tokyotown8">dyskusja</a>) 19:16, 23 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Tokyotown8|2018-10-23T17:16:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-23T17:16:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Tokyotown8&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Tokyotown8|2018-10-23T17:16:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:52:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Mpn|2018-10-23T17:40:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:52:00.000Z"></span>Każdy sobie może napisać, że coś studiował, i dowolną inną bzdurę. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Mpn" title="Wikipedysta:Mpn">Mpn</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Mpn" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Mpn">dyskusja</a>) 19:40, 23 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mpn|2018-10-23T17:40:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:52:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Szoltys|2018-10-23T17:44:00.000Z|Mpn|2018-10-23T17:40:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-23T17:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mpn&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Mpn|2018-10-23T17:40:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:52:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Szoltys|2018-10-23T17:44:00.000Z|Mpn|2018-10-23T17:40:00.000Z"></span>Z drugiej strony – na oficjalnej stronie www też można sobie wpisać bzdury. <b><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Szoltys" title="Wikipedysta:Szoltys">Szoltys</a> <small><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Szoltys" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Szoltys">[Re: ]</a></small></b> 19:44, 23 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Szoltys|2018-10-23T17:44:00.000Z|Mpn|2018-10-23T17:40:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-23T17:44:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Szoltys&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Szoltys|2018-10-23T17:44:00.000Z|Mpn|2018-10-23T17:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|109.233.47.132|2018-10-23T17:56:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z"></span>Jak rozumiem, ktos ze zwiazku judocznego pofatygowal sie i poszukal informacji o zmarlym dzialaczu. Przyjalbym, o ile nie ma tam kontrowersyjnych spraw. Inna rzecz, jezeli ktos na stronie oficjalnej zespolu twierdzi, ze dawali koncerty dla tysiecy osob i jest to jedyne zrodlo. Jesli ktos na swoim fejsie mowi o skonczonej szkole podstawowej, to raczej bym wierzyl. Jesli sa potwierdzenia doktoratu, to uwierze w podany rok ukonczenia studiow czy u kogo pisal magisterke. Natomiast jesli polityk/dzialacz/muzykant pisze sobie o swoim wyzszym wyksztalceniu - bardzo bym byl ostrozny (bo latwo wpisac, ze ma wyzsze, a pozniej sie ewentualnie tlumaczyc, ze prawie, bo studiowal 5 lat (coz z tego, ze zawsze na pierwszym roku). --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specjalna:Wk%C5%82ad/109.233.47.132" title="Specjalna:Wkład/109.233.47.132">109.233.47.132</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:109.233.47.132" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:109.233.47.132">dyskusja</a>) 19:56, 23 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|109.233.47.132|2018-10-23T17:56:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-23T17:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;109.233.47.132&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|109.233.47.132|2018-10-23T17:56:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Panek|2018-10-23T20:50:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z"></span>Niepisana zasada mówi, że do źródeł podawanych na prywatnych stronach podchodzimy ostrożnie, ale w sytuacjach niebudzących podejrzeń o manipulację, akceptujemy je. Inna niepisana, ale praktykowana, że FB to źródło z czarnej listy. Jest to niekonsekwencja. Nieraz podmioty takie czy inne miały przez parę lat stronę w stylu www.cośtam.pl, po czym od jakiegoś czasu wstukanie takiego adresu prowadzi przekieroawaniem do fanpejdża na FB. Od paru lat niektóre nowe podmioty nawet nie zakładają tradycyjnych stron, tylko od razu informacje dają na fanpejdżu. Na FB można podać miejsce zamieszkania Honolulu tak samo jak na prywatnej stronie. Dla jednych może to być argument za zablokowaniem także prywatnych stron, ale moim zdaniem jest przeciwnie, trzeba się pogodzić z tym, że wpisy na FB są jakimś, mało wiarygodnym, ale jednak źródłem. (Pomijam techniczny problem z wyszukaniem czegokolwiek w potoku postów i braku historii zmian w sekcjach typu "Informacje" - to problem techniczny, a nie dotyczący wiarygodności jako takiej). <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Panek" title="Wikipedysta:Panek">Panek</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Panek" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Panek">dyskusja</a>) 22:50, 23 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Panek|2018-10-23T20:50:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-23T20:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Panek&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Panek|2018-10-23T20:50:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Kenraiz|2018-10-23T21:36:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z"></span>Mijają lata i FB przejmuje coraz częściej dawne funkcje hostingowe stając się platformą dla obecności rozmaitych osób i instytucji w Internecie. Moim zdaniem traktowany powinien być jak każda strona prywatna – z ostrożnością, ale możliwością wykorzystania w przypadku użródłowienia niekontrowersyjnych danych. Nie wiem tylko co z powoływaniem się na strony FB o ograniczonej dostępności (dla zalogowanych, dla znajomych)... <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Kenraiz" title="Wikipedysta:Kenraiz">Kenraiz</a> <small>(<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Kenraiz" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Kenraiz">dyskusja</a>)</small> 23:36, 23 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Kenraiz|2018-10-23T21:36:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-23T21:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Kenraiz&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Kenraiz|2018-10-23T21:36:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|KamilK7|2018-10-25T12:09:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z"></span>Jeżeli encyklopedyczność tematu wynika z innych, wiarygodnych i rzetelnych źródeł, to dla niektórego rodzaju danych własną stronę na FB uznaję jako źródło wystarczające. To dane takie, w których zaistnienie faktu nie budzi wątpliwości, a uzupełniane są jedynie okoliczności, w których dane wydarzenie wystąpiło. Np. wiadomo, że się urodził, ale podaje datę i miejsce urodzenia (i nie jest to np na oko 35 letnia artystka, która podaje, że urodziła się 22 lata temu w samolocie), na podstawie danych z bazy nauki widać, że ktoś ma dr. hab., a na podstawie FB podane są daty i promotorzy pracy doktorskiej oraz magisterskiej i tak dalej. Jeśli FB jest oficjalną stroną jakiejś instytucji i pisze ona o jakimś własnym działaczu rzeczy, które nie są kontrowersyjne, to też uznałbym, że FB od biedy może być dla nich źródłem. Niekiedy FB może być źródłem także dla rzeczy budzących wątpliwości, o ile zostanie to odpowiednio sformułowane. Np. dla zdania "Zdaniem KE wprowadzana dyrektywa nie spowoduje ograniczeń w zakresie tworzenia memów" źródło w postaci oficjalnej strony KE na FB bym dopuścił, pomimo, że zdanie znanej eurodeputowanej z Partii Piratów jest odmienne, choć zapewne widząc coś takiego poprawiłbym artykuł dodając wraz z przypisem informację o tej odmiennej opinii. UWAGA - wszystkie takie źródła (tak samo jak tradycyjne strony własne), aby mogły zostać uznane za źródło powinny moim zdaniem zostać zarchiwizowane i podany powinien zostać w szablonie lub inaczej adres tego archiwum - to powinno być obowiązkowe, a u nas nie jest. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:KamilK7" title="Wikipedysta:KamilK7">KamilK7</a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:KamilK7" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:KamilK7">✉</a> 14:09, 25 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|KamilK7|2018-10-25T12:09:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-25T12:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;KamilK7&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|KamilK7|2018-10-25T12:09:00.000Z|Piotr967|2018-10-23T16:01:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T17:14:00.000Z|Facebook_jako_źródło"></span>Strony, wpisy na Fb bardzo brzydko wyglądają w przypisach, ale ich cytowanie jest dopuszczalne. Możliwości kłamania takie same jak w każdej publikacji, którą samemu się tworzy (autobiografie). <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:BasileusAutokratorPL" title="Wikipedysta:BasileusAutokratorPL">BasileusAutokratorPL</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:BasileusAutokratorPL" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:BasileusAutokratorPL">dyskusja</a>) 19:14, 25 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T17:14:00.000Z|Facebook_jako_\u017ar\u00f3d\u0142o&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|\u017byrafa\u0142|2018-10-25T18:43:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T17:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Piolodiusz|2018-10-26T05:36:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T17:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Michalwadas|2018-10-26T16:13:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T17:14:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-25T17:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;BasileusAutokratorPL&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Żyrafał|2018-10-25T18:43:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T17:14:00.000Z"></span>Ja sam raczej staram unikać się korzystania z FB jako źródła, jednak pamiętam dwie sytuacje, w których użyłem FB jako źródła, ponieważ nie miałem innej możliwości: przejście <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juraj_Halen%C3%A1r" title="Juraj Halenár">Juraja Halenára</a> do <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Petr%C5%BEalka_1898" title="FC Petržalka 1898">FC Petržalka 1898</a> (na stronie klubu o dziwo nie było takiej informacji, więc zacytowałem post na oficjalnym facebooku klubu) oraz transfer <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jayce_Olivero" title="Jayce Olivero">Jayce'a Olivero</a> do Abingdon United FC (klub z dziesiątej ligi angielskiej, więc nie miał swojej strony internetowej, tylko FB). <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:%C5%BByrafa%C5%82" title="Wikipedysta:Żyrafał"><font color="#CC3333"><i>Żyrafał</i></font></a> <small>(<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:%C5%BByrafa%C5%82" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Żyrafał"><font color="#00CC33">Dyskusja</font></a>)</small> 20:43, 25 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u017byrafa\u0142|2018-10-25T18:43:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T17:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-25T18:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u017byrafa\u0142&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Żyrafał|2018-10-25T18:43:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T17:14:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Piolodiusz|2018-10-26T05:36:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T17:14:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:%C5%BByrafa%C5%82" title="Wikipedysta:Żyrafał">Żyrafał</a> mogłeś podać tę stronę <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.transfermarkt.com/juraj-halenar/profil/spieler/21357">[4]</a> jako źródło. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Piolodiusz" title="Wikipedysta:Piolodiusz">Piolodiusz</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Piolodiusz" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Piolodiusz">dyskusja</a>) 07:36, 26 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Piolodiusz|2018-10-26T05:36:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T17:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|\u017byrafa\u0142|2018-10-26T16:09:00.000Z|Piolodiusz|2018-10-26T05:36:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-26T05:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Piolodiusz&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Piolodiusz|2018-10-26T05:36:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T17:14:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Żyrafał|2018-10-26T16:09:00.000Z|Piolodiusz|2018-10-26T05:36:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Piolodiusz" title="Wikipedysta:Piolodiusz">Piolodiusz</a>: ping nie zadziałał. Transfermarkt jest mniej wiarygodny niż oficjalna strona klubu i raczej z niego nie korzystam. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:%C5%BByrafa%C5%82" title="Wikipedysta:Żyrafał"><font color="#CC3333"><i>Żyrafał</i></font></a> <small>(<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:%C5%BByrafa%C5%82" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Żyrafał"><font color="#00CC33">Dyskusja</font></a>)</small> 18:09, 26 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u017byrafa\u0142|2018-10-26T16:09:00.000Z|Piolodiusz|2018-10-26T05:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-26T16:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u017byrafa\u0142&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Żyrafał|2018-10-26T16:09:00.000Z|Piolodiusz|2018-10-26T05:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Michalwadas|2018-10-26T16:13:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T17:14:00.000Z"></span>Nie widzę powodu by profil na Facebooku miał się różnić czymkolwiek od własnej strony, jeśli chodzi o wiarygodność informacji i należy stosować wobec FB takie same zasady. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Michalwadas" title="Wikipedysta:Michalwadas">Michał Wadas</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Michalwadas" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Michalwadas">dyskusja</a>) 18:13, 26 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Michalwadas|2018-10-26T16:13:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T17:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-26T16:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Michalwadas&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Michalwadas|2018-10-26T16:13:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T17:14:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Żyrafał|2018-10-25T18:43:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T17:14:00.000Z"></span>Ja sam raczej staram unikać się korzystania z FB jako źródła, jednak pamiętam dwie sytuacje, w których użyłem FB jako źródła, ponieważ nie miałem innej możliwości: przejście <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juraj_Halen%C3%A1r" title="Juraj Halenár">Juraja Halenára</a> do <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Petr%C5%BEalka_1898" title="FC Petržalka 1898">FC Petržalka 1898</a> (na stronie klubu o dziwo nie było takiej informacji, więc zacytowałem post na oficjalnym facebooku klubu) oraz transfer <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jayce_Olivero" title="Jayce Olivero">Jayce'a Olivero</a> do Abingdon United FC (klub z dziesiątej ligi angielskiej, więc nie miał swojej strony internetowej, tylko FB). <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:%C5%BByrafa%C5%82" title="Wikipedysta:Żyrafał"><font color="#CC3333"><i>Żyrafał</i></font></a> <small>(<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:%C5%BByrafa%C5%82" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Żyrafał"><font color="#00CC33">Dyskusja</font></a>)</small> 20:43, 25 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u017byrafa\u0142|2018-10-25T18:43:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T17:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-25T18:43:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u017byrafa\u0142&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Żyrafał|2018-10-25T18:43:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T17:14:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Piolodiusz|2018-10-26T05:36:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T17:14:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:%C5%BByrafa%C5%82" title="Wikipedysta:Żyrafał">Żyrafał</a> mogłeś podać tę stronę <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.transfermarkt.com/juraj-halenar/profil/spieler/21357">[4]</a> jako źródło. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Piolodiusz" title="Wikipedysta:Piolodiusz">Piolodiusz</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Piolodiusz" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Piolodiusz">dyskusja</a>) 07:36, 26 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Piolodiusz|2018-10-26T05:36:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T17:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|\u017byrafa\u0142|2018-10-26T16:09:00.000Z|Piolodiusz|2018-10-26T05:36:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-26T05:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Piolodiusz&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Piolodiusz|2018-10-26T05:36:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T17:14:00.000Z"></span><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Żyrafał|2018-10-26T16:09:00.000Z|Piolodiusz|2018-10-26T05:36:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Piolodiusz" title="Wikipedysta:Piolodiusz">Piolodiusz</a>: ping nie zadziałał. Transfermarkt jest mniej wiarygodny niż oficjalna strona klubu i raczej z niego nie korzystam. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:%C5%BByrafa%C5%82" title="Wikipedysta:Żyrafał"><font color="#CC3333"><i>Żyrafał</i></font></a> <small>(<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:%C5%BByrafa%C5%82" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Żyrafał"><font color="#00CC33">Dyskusja</font></a>)</small> 18:09, 26 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|\u017byrafa\u0142|2018-10-26T16:09:00.000Z|Piolodiusz|2018-10-26T05:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-26T16:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;\u017byrafa\u0142&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Żyrafał|2018-10-26T16:09:00.000Z|Piolodiusz|2018-10-26T05:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Michalwadas|2018-10-26T16:13:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T17:14:00.000Z"></span>Nie widzę powodu by profil na Facebooku miał się różnić czymkolwiek od własnej strony, jeśli chodzi o wiarygodność informacji i należy stosować wobec FB takie same zasady. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Michalwadas" title="Wikipedysta:Michalwadas">Michał Wadas</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Michalwadas" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Michalwadas">dyskusja</a>) 18:13, 26 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Michalwadas|2018-10-26T16:13:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T17:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-26T16:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Michalwadas&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Michalwadas|2018-10-26T16:13:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T17:14:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
 <h2><span id="Wy.C5.9Brodkowanie_tekstu"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Wyśrodkowanie_tekstu" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Wy\u015brodkowanie_tekstu|2018-10-26T17:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|WTM|2018-10-26T17:17:00.000Z|Wy\u015brodkowanie_tekstu&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Wyśrodkowanie_tekstu|2018-10-26T17:17:00.000Z"></span>Wyśrodkowanie tekstu<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Wyśrodkowanie_tekstu|2018-10-26T17:17:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|WTM|2018-10-26T17:17:00.000Z|Wyśrodkowanie_tekstu"></span>Jak wyśrodkować tekst w tabelce (w komórce zwykłej)?
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-<dl><dd>W VisualEditorze nie przewidziano formatowania wewnątrz pojedynczych komórek. Jest to możliwe w edycji kodu źródłowego → <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomoc:Tabele" title="Pomoc:Tabele">Pomoc:Tabele</a>. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:WTM" title="Wikipedysta:WTM">WTM</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:WTM" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:WTM">dyskusja</a>) 19:17, 26 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|WTM|2018-10-26T17:17:00.000Z|Wy\u015brodkowanie_tekstu&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-26T17:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;WTM&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|WTM|2018-10-26T17:17:00.000Z|Wyśrodkowanie_tekstu"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd>W VisualEditorze nie przewidziano formatowania wewnątrz pojedynczych komórek. Jest to możliwe w edycji kodu źródłowego → <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomoc:Tabele" title="Pomoc:Tabele">Pomoc:Tabele</a>. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:WTM" title="Wikipedysta:WTM">WTM</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:WTM" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:WTM">dyskusja</a>) 19:17, 26 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|WTM|2018-10-26T17:17:00.000Z|Wy\u015brodkowanie_tekstu&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-26T17:17:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;WTM&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|WTM|2018-10-26T17:17:00.000Z|Wyśrodkowanie_tekstu"></span></dd></dl>
 <h2><span id="Reprezentacja_Polski_w_pi.C5.82ce_no.C5.BCnej_m.C4.99.C5.BCczyzn"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Reprezentacja_Polski_w_piłce_nożnej_mężczyzn" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Reprezentacja_Polski_w_pi\u0142ce_no\u017cnej_m\u0119\u017cczyzn|2018-10-26T17:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-26T17:07:00.000Z|Reprezentacja_Polski_w_pi\u0142ce_no\u017cnej_m\u0119\u017cczyzn&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Reprezentacja_Polski_w_piłce_nożnej_mężczyzn|2018-10-26T17:07:00.000Z"></span><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reprezentacja_Polski_w_pi%C5%82ce_no%C5%BCnej_m%C4%99%C5%BCczyzn" title="Reprezentacja Polski w piłce nożnej mężczyzn">Reprezentacja Polski w piłce nożnej mężczyzn</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h|Reprezentacja_Polski_w_piłce_nożnej_mężczyzn|2018-10-26T17:07:00.000Z"></span></span></h2><p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-26T17:07:00.000Z|Reprezentacja_Polski_w_piłce_nożnej_mężczyzn"></span>
 W lipcu tego roku usunąłem "artystyczne" tytuły podsekcji w powyższym artykule. Oto one: </p><table class="cytat" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="2" style="margin:0.1em 0em; background-color:inherit;"><tbody><tr><td></td></tr><tr><td><div style="background-color:#ffffff; color: #333; padding:5px; border:1px solid #CCC; font-size:95%;"><div class="floatleft"><img alt="Quote-alpha.png" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b9/Quote-alpha.png/20px-Quote-alpha.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b9/Quote-alpha.png/30px-Quote-alpha.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b9/Quote-alpha.png/40px-Quote-alpha.png 2x" data-file-width="100" data-file-height="100"/></div>
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 </p><p>1.6 2013–2018: Era Nawałki
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-<p>Zostawiłem tylko przedziały dat. Dopiero teraz, przypadkiem zauważyłem, że @<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Mitrovitz" title="Wikipedysta:Mitrovitz">Mitrovitz</a> od razu moją edycję wycofał <a class="external autonumber" href="https://pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Reprezentacja_Polski_w_pi%C5%82ce_no%C5%BCnej_m%C4%99%C5%BCczyzn&amp;diff=53958529&amp;oldid=53955662">[5]</a> (nie przypominam sobie, abym dostał powiadomienie?...). O ile "Początki i pierwsze sukcesy" mogłyby zostać, to na takie sformułowania jak "Złota era" czy "Czas niemocy" nie ma moim zdaniem miejsca w publikacjach encyklopedycznych. Proszę Społeczność o rozstrzygnięcie sporu. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:BasileusAutokratorPL" title="Wikipedysta:BasileusAutokratorPL">BasileusAutokratorPL</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:BasileusAutokratorPL" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:BasileusAutokratorPL">dyskusja</a>) 19:07, 26 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-26T17:07:00.000Z|Reprezentacja_Polski_w_pi\u0142ce_no\u017cnej_m\u0119\u017cczyzn&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ciacho5|2018-10-26T17:27:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-26T17:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Mitrovitz|2018-10-26T20:19:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-26T17:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Piotr967|2018-10-26T22:01:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-26T17:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Ented|2018-10-26T22:10:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-26T17:07:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-26T17:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;BasileusAutokratorPL&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p>Zostawiłem tylko przedziały dat. Dopiero teraz, przypadkiem zauważyłem, że @<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Mitrovitz" title="Wikipedysta:Mitrovitz">Mitrovitz</a> od razu moją edycję wycofał <a class="external autonumber" href="https://pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Reprezentacja_Polski_w_pi%C5%82ce_no%C5%BCnej_m%C4%99%C5%BCczyzn&amp;diff=53958529&amp;oldid=53955662">[5]</a> (nie przypominam sobie, abym dostał powiadomienie?...). O ile "Początki i pierwsze sukcesy" mogłyby zostać, to na takie sformułowania jak "Złota era" czy "Czas niemocy" nie ma moim zdaniem miejsca w publikacjach encyklopedycznych. Proszę Społeczność o rozstrzygnięcie sporu. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:BasileusAutokratorPL" title="Wikipedysta:BasileusAutokratorPL">BasileusAutokratorPL</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:BasileusAutokratorPL" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:BasileusAutokratorPL">dyskusja</a>) 19:07, 26 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-26T17:07:00.000Z|Reprezentacja_Polski_w_pi\u0142ce_no\u017cnej_m\u0119\u017cczyzn&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ciacho5|2018-10-26T17:27:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-26T17:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Mitrovitz|2018-10-26T20:19:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-26T17:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Piotr967|2018-10-26T22:01:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-26T17:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Ented|2018-10-26T22:10:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-26T17:07:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-26T17:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;BasileusAutokratorPL&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ciacho5|2018-10-26T17:27:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-26T17:07:00.000Z"></span>Nie powinno. Można podzielić na lata, można ewentualnie na trenerów, ale bez poezji. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Ciacho5" title="Wikipedysta:Ciacho5">Ciacho5</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Ciacho5" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Ciacho5">dyskusja</a>) 19:27, 26 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ciacho5|2018-10-26T17:27:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-26T17:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-26T17:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ciacho5&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ciacho5|2018-10-26T17:27:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-26T17:07:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Mitrovitz|2018-10-26T20:19:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-26T17:07:00.000Z"></span>Anulowałem, a nie wycofałem, a to na Wikipedii stanowi "drobną" różnicę. Wg mnie daleko tu do publicystyki, bo tytuły, o których mówisz <i>de facto</i> podsumowują późniejsze partie tekstów. Nie wprowadzają czytelnika w błąd i nie są bezpodstawne (<i>Turnieje bez sukcesów</i> mówią o okresie bez sukcesów, <i>Złota era</i> to czas III miejsc na mundialu). Wprowadzony podział na lata ma sens jedynie z obecnymi tytułami, dlatego też usuwając tytuły, aktualny podział nie miałby racji bytu. Po takim zabiegu równie dobrze możemy opisać artykuł dekadami. Nie upieram się przy aktualnych nazwach (oprócz <i>Nowego rozdania</i> nie jestem nawet ich autorem), ale zamiast usuwania, oczekiwałbym propozycji nowego rozwiązania lub lepszych nazw. Pozdrawiam, <b><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Mitrovitz" title="Wikipedysta:Mitrovitz">Mitrovitz</a></b> <small>(<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Mitrovitz" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Mitrovitz">dyskusja</a>)</small> 22:19, 26 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mitrovitz|2018-10-26T20:19:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-26T17:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Vinsinna|2018-10-26T21:21:00.000Z|Mitrovitz|2018-10-26T20:19:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-26T20:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mitrovitz&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
-<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Mitrovitz|2018-10-26T20:19:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-26T17:07:00.000Z"></span><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Vinsinna|2018-10-26T21:21:00.000Z|Mitrovitz|2018-10-26T20:19:00.000Z"></span>Ja na piłce się nie znam, ale intuicja mi podpowiada, że każdą zmianę selekcjonera można by nazwać nowym rozdaniem. Może prawie każdą? Ale o ile „turnieje bez sukcesów” coś mówi, o tyle „nowe rozdanie” nie mówi nic. :) <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedystka:Vinsinna" title="Wikipedystka:Vinsinna">Vinsinna</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedystki:Vinsinna" title="Dyskusja wikipedystki:Vinsinna">dyskusja</a>) 23:21, 26 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vinsinna|2018-10-26T21:21:00.000Z|Mitrovitz|2018-10-26T20:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-26T21:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vinsinna&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Vinsinna|2018-10-26T21:21:00.000Z|Mitrovitz|2018-10-26T20:19:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Piotr967|2018-10-26T22:01:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-26T17:07:00.000Z"></span>Odrzeczna poetyka, poviasta jak gwint. "Początki i pierwsze sukcesy" - mam rozumieć, że przez 18 lat kopacze nie mieli żadnych porażek, same sukcesy? "Złota era" - jeśli już to brązowa; różnica między "Czas niemocy" a "Turnieje bez sukcesów"? "Era Nawałki" i to ten najwybitniejszy trener, skoro tylko on z nazwiska wymieniony w tytule? Itd. itp. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Piotr967" title="Wikipedysta:Piotr967">Piotr967</a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Piotr967" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Piotr967"><i>podyskutujmy</i></a> 00:01, 27 paź 2018 (CEST) Całą tę poetykę mityczną wywaliłem, zostawiłem gołe daty. Choć to jest wg mnie tymczasowe tylko - o wiele lepsze byłoby naturalne podzielenie na rozdziały wg kadencji dłużej pracujacych trenerów, a tych krótkich to latami. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Piotr967" title="Wikipedysta:Piotr967">Piotr967</a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Piotr967" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Piotr967"><i>podyskutujmy</i></a> 00:11, 27 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Piotr967|2018-10-26T22:01:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-26T17:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-26T22:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Piotr967&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Piotr967|2018-10-26T22:01:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-26T17:07:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ented|2018-10-26T22:10:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-26T17:07:00.000Z"></span>Tabloityzacja haseł i kalka publicystyki (niestety) w tanim wydaniu. Jako tytuły rozdziałów książki typu wywiad-rzeka - tak, ale nie do encyklopedii. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Ented" title="Wikipedysta:Ented">Ented</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Ented" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Ented">dyskusja</a>) 00:10, 27 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ented|2018-10-26T22:10:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-26T17:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-26T22:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ented&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ented|2018-10-26T22:10:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-26T17:07:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ciacho5|2018-10-26T17:27:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-26T17:07:00.000Z"></span>Nie powinno. Można podzielić na lata, można ewentualnie na trenerów, ale bez poezji. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Ciacho5" title="Wikipedysta:Ciacho5">Ciacho5</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Ciacho5" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Ciacho5">dyskusja</a>) 19:27, 26 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ciacho5|2018-10-26T17:27:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-26T17:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-26T17:27:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ciacho5&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ciacho5|2018-10-26T17:27:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-26T17:07:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Mitrovitz|2018-10-26T20:19:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-26T17:07:00.000Z"></span>Anulowałem, a nie wycofałem, a to na Wikipedii stanowi "drobną" różnicę. Wg mnie daleko tu do publicystyki, bo tytuły, o których mówisz <i>de facto</i> podsumowują późniejsze partie tekstów. Nie wprowadzają czytelnika w błąd i nie są bezpodstawne (<i>Turnieje bez sukcesów</i> mówią o okresie bez sukcesów, <i>Złota era</i> to czas III miejsc na mundialu). Wprowadzony podział na lata ma sens jedynie z obecnymi tytułami, dlatego też usuwając tytuły, aktualny podział nie miałby racji bytu. Po takim zabiegu równie dobrze możemy opisać artykuł dekadami. Nie upieram się przy aktualnych nazwach (oprócz <i>Nowego rozdania</i> nie jestem nawet ich autorem), ale zamiast usuwania, oczekiwałbym propozycji nowego rozwiązania lub lepszych nazw. Pozdrawiam, <b><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Mitrovitz" title="Wikipedysta:Mitrovitz">Mitrovitz</a></b> <small>(<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Mitrovitz" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Mitrovitz">dyskusja</a>)</small> 22:19, 26 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Mitrovitz|2018-10-26T20:19:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-26T17:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Vinsinna|2018-10-26T21:21:00.000Z|Mitrovitz|2018-10-26T20:19:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-26T20:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Mitrovitz&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Mitrovitz|2018-10-26T20:19:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-26T17:07:00.000Z"></span><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Vinsinna|2018-10-26T21:21:00.000Z|Mitrovitz|2018-10-26T20:19:00.000Z"></span>Ja na piłce się nie znam, ale intuicja mi podpowiada, że każdą zmianę selekcjonera można by nazwać nowym rozdaniem. Może prawie każdą? Ale o ile „turnieje bez sukcesów” coś mówi, o tyle „nowe rozdanie” nie mówi nic. :) <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedystka:Vinsinna" title="Wikipedystka:Vinsinna">Vinsinna</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedystki:Vinsinna" title="Dyskusja wikipedystki:Vinsinna">dyskusja</a>) 23:21, 26 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Vinsinna|2018-10-26T21:21:00.000Z|Mitrovitz|2018-10-26T20:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-26T21:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Vinsinna&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Vinsinna|2018-10-26T21:21:00.000Z|Mitrovitz|2018-10-26T20:19:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Piotr967|2018-10-26T22:01:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-26T17:07:00.000Z"></span>Odrzeczna poetyka, poviasta jak gwint. "Początki i pierwsze sukcesy" - mam rozumieć, że przez 18 lat kopacze nie mieli żadnych porażek, same sukcesy? "Złota era" - jeśli już to brązowa; różnica między "Czas niemocy" a "Turnieje bez sukcesów"? "Era Nawałki" i to ten najwybitniejszy trener, skoro tylko on z nazwiska wymieniony w tytule? Itd. itp. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Piotr967" title="Wikipedysta:Piotr967">Piotr967</a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Piotr967" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Piotr967"><i>podyskutujmy</i></a> 00:01, 27 paź 2018 (CEST) Całą tę poetykę mityczną wywaliłem, zostawiłem gołe daty. Choć to jest wg mnie tymczasowe tylko - o wiele lepsze byłoby naturalne podzielenie na rozdziały wg kadencji dłużej pracujacych trenerów, a tych krótkich to latami. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Piotr967" title="Wikipedysta:Piotr967">Piotr967</a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Piotr967" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Piotr967"><i>podyskutujmy</i></a> 00:11, 27 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Piotr967|2018-10-26T22:01:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-26T17:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-26T22:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Piotr967&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Piotr967|2018-10-26T22:01:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-26T17:07:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ented|2018-10-26T22:10:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-26T17:07:00.000Z"></span>Tabloityzacja haseł i kalka publicystyki (niestety) w tanim wydaniu. Jako tytuły rozdziałów książki typu wywiad-rzeka - tak, ale nie do encyklopedii. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Ented" title="Wikipedysta:Ented">Ented</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Ented" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Ented">dyskusja</a>) 00:10, 27 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ented|2018-10-26T22:10:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-26T17:07:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-26T22:10:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ented&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ented|2018-10-26T22:10:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-26T17:07:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
 <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Ikonki_w_infoboksach" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Ikonki_w_infoboksach|2018-10-20T18:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Wiktoryn|2018-10-20T18:23:00.000Z|Ikonki_w_infoboksach&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Ikonki_w_infoboksach|2018-10-20T18:23:00.000Z"></span>Ikonki w infoboksach<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Ikonki_w_infoboksach|2018-10-20T18:23:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Wiktoryn|2018-10-20T18:23:00.000Z|Ikonki_w_infoboksach"></span>W infoboksach są specjalne pola przeznaczone na ilustracje typu <i>grafika</i>. Mam pytanie, jakie jest stanowisko w sprawie opatrywania informacji ikonkami, np. flagami państwowymi czy emblematami jednostek, organizacji, stowarzyszeń etc. – czy te ikonki powinny trafiać do infoboksów czy nie? <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Wiktoryn" title="Wikipedysta:Wiktoryn">Wiktoryn</a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Wiktoryn" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Wiktoryn"><small>&lt;odpowiedź></small></a> 20:23, 20 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Wiktoryn|2018-10-20T18:23:00.000Z|Ikonki_w_infoboksach&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Malarz pl|2018-10-28T17:53:00.000Z|Wiktoryn|2018-10-20T18:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Elfhelm|2018-10-28T18:50:00.000Z|Wiktoryn|2018-10-20T18:23:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-20T18:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Wiktoryn&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Wiktoryn|2018-10-20T18:23:00.000Z|Ikonki_w_infoboksach"></span>W infoboksach są specjalne pola przeznaczone na ilustracje typu <i>grafika</i>. Mam pytanie, jakie jest stanowisko w sprawie opatrywania informacji ikonkami, np. flagami państwowymi czy emblematami jednostek, organizacji, stowarzyszeń etc. – czy te ikonki powinny trafiać do infoboksów czy nie? <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Wiktoryn" title="Wikipedysta:Wiktoryn">Wiktoryn</a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Wiktoryn" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Wiktoryn"><small>&lt;odpowiedź></small></a> 20:23, 20 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Wiktoryn|2018-10-20T18:23:00.000Z|Ikonki_w_infoboksach&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Malarz pl|2018-10-28T17:53:00.000Z|Wiktoryn|2018-10-20T18:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Elfhelm|2018-10-28T18:50:00.000Z|Wiktoryn|2018-10-20T18:23:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-20T18:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Wiktoryn&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Malarz pl|2018-10-28T17:53:00.000Z|Wiktoryn|2018-10-20T18:23:00.000Z"></span>Nie ma żadnych zasad to opisujących. Jest jednak kilka elementów wielokrotnie dyskutowanych co do których nie ma raczej większych rozbieżności pomiędzy Wikipedystami. Po pierwsze to w infoboksach osób nie umieszczamy flag przy miejscach urodzenia i śmierci (zresztą w wielu z nich zaszyty jest mechanizm je ukrywający). Po drugie w infoboksach miejscowości, jednostek administracyjnych, różnych obiektów geograficznych, budynków, pomników, parków itp. flagi umieszczamy przy państwach i co najwyżej przy jednostkach podziału pierwszego rzędu (u nas województwo, za zachodnią granicą land, w USA stan, ...). W infoboksie <kbd>{{<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szablon:Wojna_infobox" title="Szablon:Wojna infobox">wojna infobox</a>}}</kbd> flagi przy dowódcach, jednostkach itp. tylko dla czasów najnowszych (reszta jest blokowana automatycznie). Poza tym oczywiście dopuszczone są grafiki w miejscach przewidzianych przez szablon (zdjęcie, flaga, herb, logo, mapa, naramiennik u żołnierzy, odznaczenia, faksymilia). W innych polach (przeznaczonych na tekst) raczej grafiki nie powinny się pojawiać. Czasami niektóre z pól na grafiki zostały usunięte z szablonu po dyskusji i niektórzy przemycają ich zawartość różnymi sposobami. ~<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Malarz_pl" title="Wikipedysta:Malarz pl"><span style="color:blue; font-weight:bold;">malarz pl</span></a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Malarz_pl" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Malarz pl"><sup><span style="color:red; font-style:italic;">PISZ</span></sup></a> 18:53, 28 paź 2018 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Malarz pl|2018-10-28T17:53:00.000Z|Wiktoryn|2018-10-20T18:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-28T17:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Malarz pl&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Malarz pl|2018-10-28T17:53:00.000Z|Wiktoryn|2018-10-20T18:23:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Elfhelm|2018-10-28T18:50:00.000Z|Wiktoryn|2018-10-20T18:23:00.000Z"></span>Według mnie ikonki winny być wykorzystywane głównie w hasłach przedmiotowych z nimi związanych, a nie w infoboksach haseł szczegółowych (oczywiście z uzasadnionymi wyjątkami, o czym Malarz napisał wyżej). Przykładowo w infoboksie żołnierza nie ma potrzeby dodawania ikonek dla emblematów jego jednostek - skoro jednostki te są opisane w odrębnym haśle. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Elfhelm" title="Wikipedysta:Elfhelm">Elfhelm</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Elfhelm" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Elfhelm">dyskusja</a>) 19:50, 28 paź 2018 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Elfhelm|2018-10-28T18:50:00.000Z|Wiktoryn|2018-10-20T18:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-28T18:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Elfhelm&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Elfhelm|2018-10-28T18:50:00.000Z|Wiktoryn|2018-10-20T18:23:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Malarz pl|2018-10-28T17:53:00.000Z|Wiktoryn|2018-10-20T18:23:00.000Z"></span>Nie ma żadnych zasad to opisujących. Jest jednak kilka elementów wielokrotnie dyskutowanych co do których nie ma raczej większych rozbieżności pomiędzy Wikipedystami. Po pierwsze to w infoboksach osób nie umieszczamy flag przy miejscach urodzenia i śmierci (zresztą w wielu z nich zaszyty jest mechanizm je ukrywający). Po drugie w infoboksach miejscowości, jednostek administracyjnych, różnych obiektów geograficznych, budynków, pomników, parków itp. flagi umieszczamy przy państwach i co najwyżej przy jednostkach podziału pierwszego rzędu (u nas województwo, za zachodnią granicą land, w USA stan, ...). W infoboksie <kbd>{{<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szablon:Wojna_infobox" title="Szablon:Wojna infobox">wojna infobox</a>}}</kbd> flagi przy dowódcach, jednostkach itp. tylko dla czasów najnowszych (reszta jest blokowana automatycznie). Poza tym oczywiście dopuszczone są grafiki w miejscach przewidzianych przez szablon (zdjęcie, flaga, herb, logo, mapa, naramiennik u żołnierzy, odznaczenia, faksymilia). W innych polach (przeznaczonych na tekst) raczej grafiki nie powinny się pojawiać. Czasami niektóre z pól na grafiki zostały usunięte z szablonu po dyskusji i niektórzy przemycają ich zawartość różnymi sposobami. ~<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Malarz_pl" title="Wikipedysta:Malarz pl"><span style="color:blue; font-weight:bold;">malarz pl</span></a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Malarz_pl" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Malarz pl"><sup><span style="color:red; font-style:italic;">PISZ</span></sup></a> 18:53, 28 paź 2018 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Malarz pl|2018-10-28T17:53:00.000Z|Wiktoryn|2018-10-20T18:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-28T17:53:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Malarz pl&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Malarz pl|2018-10-28T17:53:00.000Z|Wiktoryn|2018-10-20T18:23:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Elfhelm|2018-10-28T18:50:00.000Z|Wiktoryn|2018-10-20T18:23:00.000Z"></span>Według mnie ikonki winny być wykorzystywane głównie w hasłach przedmiotowych z nimi związanych, a nie w infoboksach haseł szczegółowych (oczywiście z uzasadnionymi wyjątkami, o czym Malarz napisał wyżej). Przykładowo w infoboksie żołnierza nie ma potrzeby dodawania ikonek dla emblematów jego jednostek - skoro jednostki te są opisane w odrębnym haśle. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Elfhelm" title="Wikipedysta:Elfhelm">Elfhelm</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Elfhelm" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Elfhelm">dyskusja</a>) 19:50, 28 paź 2018 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Elfhelm|2018-10-28T18:50:00.000Z|Wiktoryn|2018-10-20T18:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-28T18:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Elfhelm&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Elfhelm|2018-10-28T18:50:00.000Z|Wiktoryn|2018-10-20T18:23:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Arvedui89|2018-10-29T08:12:00.000Z|{{Tenisista_infobox}}"></span>W szablonie dotyczącym tenisistów i tenisistek widnieje rubryka "miejsce zamieszkania". Nie wydaje mi się, żebym spotkał się z czymś takim gdziekolwiek indziej, a już na pewno (a przynajmniej moim zdaniem) nie jest to kwestia na tyle istotna, żeby miała być tam umieszczana. Swego czasu napisałem o tym na stronie dyskusji tego szablonu, ale jakoś nie doczekałem się reakcji. Dziś ponownie rzuciło mi się to w oczy i okazało się, że mój post w dyskusji jest z… 2013 roku. Nie chcę samowolnie usuwać takich rzeczy z szablonu o przeszło 2,5 tys. wywołań, dlatego chciałem najpierw odwołać się do tego grona. Piszę w tym miejscu bo <i>de facto</i> to nie jest kwestia techniczna dotycząca samego szablonu. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Arvedui89" title="Wikipedysta:Arvedui89">Aʀvєδuι</a> <sup><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Arvedui89" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Arvedui89"><span style="color:#ee0000">+</span></a></sup> 09:12, 29 paź 2018 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Arvedui89|2018-10-29T08:12:00.000Z|{{Tenisista_infobox}}&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ciacho5|2018-10-29T10:20:00.000Z|Arvedui89|2018-10-29T08:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Malarz pl|2018-10-29T10:49:00.000Z|Arvedui89|2018-10-29T08:12:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-29T08:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Arvedui89&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Arvedui89|2018-10-29T08:12:00.000Z|{{Tenisista_infobox}}"></span>W szablonie dotyczącym tenisistów i tenisistek widnieje rubryka "miejsce zamieszkania". Nie wydaje mi się, żebym spotkał się z czymś takim gdziekolwiek indziej, a już na pewno (a przynajmniej moim zdaniem) nie jest to kwestia na tyle istotna, żeby miała być tam umieszczana. Swego czasu napisałem o tym na stronie dyskusji tego szablonu, ale jakoś nie doczekałem się reakcji. Dziś ponownie rzuciło mi się to w oczy i okazało się, że mój post w dyskusji jest z… 2013 roku. Nie chcę samowolnie usuwać takich rzeczy z szablonu o przeszło 2,5 tys. wywołań, dlatego chciałem najpierw odwołać się do tego grona. Piszę w tym miejscu bo <i>de facto</i> to nie jest kwestia techniczna dotycząca samego szablonu. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Arvedui89" title="Wikipedysta:Arvedui89">Aʀvєδuι</a> <sup><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Arvedui89" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Arvedui89"><span style="color:#ee0000">+</span></a></sup> 09:12, 29 paź 2018 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Arvedui89|2018-10-29T08:12:00.000Z|{{Tenisista_infobox}}&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Ciacho5|2018-10-29T10:20:00.000Z|Arvedui89|2018-10-29T08:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Malarz pl|2018-10-29T10:49:00.000Z|Arvedui89|2018-10-29T08:12:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-29T08:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Arvedui89&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ciacho5|2018-10-29T10:20:00.000Z|Arvedui89|2018-10-29T08:12:00.000Z"></span>Zbędne, często zmienne, a u niektórych pewnie lista dłuższa byłaby niż reszta artykułu. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Ciacho5" title="Wikipedysta:Ciacho5">Ciacho5</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Ciacho5" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Ciacho5">dyskusja</a>) 11:20, 29 paź 2018 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ciacho5|2018-10-29T10:20:00.000Z|Arvedui89|2018-10-29T08:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-29T10:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ciacho5&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ciacho5|2018-10-29T10:20:00.000Z|Arvedui89|2018-10-29T08:12:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Malarz pl|2018-10-29T10:49:00.000Z|Arvedui89|2018-10-29T08:12:00.000Z"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/OOjs_UI_icon_check.svg/20px-OOjs_UI_icon_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/OOjs_UI_icon_check.svg/30px-OOjs_UI_icon_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/OOjs_UI_icon_check.svg/40px-OOjs_UI_icon_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="20" data-file-height="20"/> <b>Zrobione</b> ~<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Malarz_pl" title="Wikipedysta:Malarz pl"><span style="color:blue; font-weight:bold;">malarz pl</span></a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Malarz_pl" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Malarz pl"><sup><span style="color:red; font-style:italic;">PISZ</span></sup></a> 11:49, 29 paź 2018 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Malarz pl|2018-10-29T10:49:00.000Z|Arvedui89|2018-10-29T08:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-29T10:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Malarz pl&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Malarz pl|2018-10-29T10:49:00.000Z|Arvedui89|2018-10-29T08:12:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ciacho5|2018-10-29T10:20:00.000Z|Arvedui89|2018-10-29T08:12:00.000Z"></span>Zbędne, często zmienne, a u niektórych pewnie lista dłuższa byłaby niż reszta artykułu. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Ciacho5" title="Wikipedysta:Ciacho5">Ciacho5</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Ciacho5" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Ciacho5">dyskusja</a>) 11:20, 29 paź 2018 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ciacho5|2018-10-29T10:20:00.000Z|Arvedui89|2018-10-29T08:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-29T10:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ciacho5&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Ciacho5|2018-10-29T10:20:00.000Z|Arvedui89|2018-10-29T08:12:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Malarz pl|2018-10-29T10:49:00.000Z|Arvedui89|2018-10-29T08:12:00.000Z"></span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/OOjs_UI_icon_check.svg/20px-OOjs_UI_icon_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/OOjs_UI_icon_check.svg/30px-OOjs_UI_icon_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/OOjs_UI_icon_check.svg/40px-OOjs_UI_icon_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="20" data-file-height="20"/> <b>Zrobione</b> ~<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Malarz_pl" title="Wikipedysta:Malarz pl"><span style="color:blue; font-weight:bold;">malarz pl</span></a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Malarz_pl" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Malarz pl"><sup><span style="color:red; font-style:italic;">PISZ</span></sup></a> 11:49, 29 paź 2018 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Malarz pl|2018-10-29T10:49:00.000Z|Arvedui89|2018-10-29T08:12:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-29T10:49:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Malarz pl&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Malarz pl|2018-10-29T10:49:00.000Z|Arvedui89|2018-10-29T08:12:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
 <h2><span id="Encyklopedyczno.C5.9B.C4.87_biogram.C3.B3w_harcerskich"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Encyklopedyczność_biogramów_harcerskich" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Encyklopedyczno\u015b\u0107_biogram\u00f3w_harcerskich|2018-10-24T01:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Smyrwa|2018-10-24T01:36:00.000Z|Encyklopedyczno\u015b\u0107_biogram\u00f3w_harcerskich&quot;,&quot;c|Pbk|2018-10-24T15:14:00.000Z|Encyklopedyczno\u015b\u0107_biogram\u00f3w_harcerskich&quot;,&quot;c|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T20:03:00.000Z|Encyklopedyczno\u015b\u0107_biogram\u00f3w_harcerskich&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Encyklopedyczność_biogramów_harcerskich|2018-10-24T01:36:00.000Z"></span>Encyklopedyczność biogramów harcerskich<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Encyklopedyczność_biogramów_harcerskich|2018-10-24T01:36:00.000Z"></span></span></h2>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Smyrwa|2018-10-24T01:36:00.000Z|Encyklopedyczność_biogramów_harcerskich"></span>Ponieważ zdarzają się spory co do encyklopedyczności biogramów harcerskich, poniżej przedstawiam swoją propozycję.
 </p><p>Zaznaczę od razu, że istnieje bardzo dobre źródło <i>Harcerski słownik biograficzny</i>, wydawany przez <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muzeum_Harcerstwa_w_Warszawie" title="Muzeum Harcerstwa w Warszawie">Muzeum Harcerstwa w Warszawie</a>, opracowany pod red. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Janusz_Wojtycza&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Janusz Wojtycza (strona nie istnieje)">Janusza Wojtyczy</a> na wzór <i>Polskiego słownika biograficznego</i>. Zawiera on jednak <b>wyłącznie biogramy osób już nieżyjących</b>. Wikipedia, jako żywa i na bieżąco reagująca na wydarzenia, powinna zawierać również biogramy osób żyjących, w tym tych, którzy mieli w przeszłości lub mają nadal wpływ na oblicze tego ruchu. 
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 <li><i>fakultatywnie:</i> inni członkowie <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naczelnictwo_Zwi%C4%85zku_Harcerstwa_Rzeczypospolitej" title="Naczelnictwo Związku Harcerstwa Rzeczypospolitej">naczelnictwa ZHR (zarządu organizacji)</a> (wiceprzewodniczący, sekretarz generalny, skarbnik, kapelan naczelny, komisarz zagraniczny), przewodniczący <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komisja_Rewizyjna_Zwi%C4%85zku_Harcerstwa_Rzeczypospolitej" title="Komisja Rewizyjna Związku Harcerstwa Rzeczypospolitej">Komisji Rewizyjnej ZHR</a>, prezesi <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C4%85d_Harcerski_Zwi%C4%85zku_Harcerstwa_Rzeczypospolitej" title="Sąd Harcerski Związku Harcerstwa Rzeczypospolitej">Sądu Harcerskiego ZHR</a>, członkowie <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rada_Naczelna_Zwi%C4%85zku_Harcerstwa_Rzeczypospolitej" title="Rada Naczelna Związku Harcerstwa Rzeczypospolitej">Rady Naczelnej ZHR</a> (w tym przewodniczący <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okr%C4%99g_Zwi%C4%85zku_Harcerstwa_Rzeczypospolitej" title="Okręg Związku Harcerstwa Rzeczypospolitej">okręgów ZHR</a>)</li></ul></li></ul></li></ul>
 <ul><li><b>media harcerskie:</b>
 <ul><li>dokumentaliści harcerscy, redaktorzy naczelni i znani dziennikarze ogólnopolskich mediów harcerskich (w tym m.in. czasopism <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bratnie_S%C5%82owo_(czasopismo)" title="Bratnie Słowo (czasopismo)">„Bratnie Słowo”</a>, <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czuwaj_(czasopismo)" title="Czuwaj (czasopismo)">„Czuwaj”</a>, <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harcerstwo_(czasopismo)" title="Harcerstwo (czasopismo)">„Harcerstwo”</a>, czasopism-portali <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harcerz_Rzeczypospolitej_(czasopismo)" title="Harcerz Rzeczypospolitej (czasopismo)">„Harcerz Rzeczypospolitej”</a> i <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Na_Tropie" title="Na Tropie">„Na Tropie”</a> oraz <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rozg%C5%82o%C5%9Bnia_Harcerska" title="Rozgłośnia Harcerska">Rozgłośni Harcerskiej</a>): <small><a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanis%C5%82aw_Czopowicz" title="Stanisław Czopowicz">Stanisław Czopowicz</a>, <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grzegorz_Nowik" title="Grzegorz Nowik">Grzegorz Nowik</a>, <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomasz_Maracewicz" title="Tomasz Maracewicz">Tomasz Maracewicz</a>, <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leszek_Truchlewski" title="Leszek Truchlewski">Leszek Truchlewski</a>, <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marek_Fr%C4%85ckowiak" title="Marek Frąckowiak">Marek Frąckowiak</a>, <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krzysztof_Stanowski" class="mw-disambig" title="Krzysztof Stanowski">Krzysztof Stanowski</a>, <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micha%C5%82_Butkiewicz" class="mw-disambig" title="Michał Butkiewicz">Michał Butkiewicz</a>, <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olgierd_Fietkiewicz" title="Olgierd Fietkiewicz">Olgierd Fietkiewicz</a>, <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alina_Leciejewska-Nosal&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Alina Leciejewska-Nosal (strona nie istnieje)">Alina Leciejewska-Nosal</a>, <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Czetwerty%C5%84ski" title="Adam Czetwertyński">Adam Czetwertyński</a>, <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grzegorz_Ca%C5%82ek" title="Grzegorz Całek">Grzegorz Całek</a>, <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Katarzyna_Tkaczyk&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Katarzyna Tkaczyk (strona nie istnieje)">Katarzyna Tkaczyk</a>, <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_Miszczuk" title="Marian Miszczuk">Marian Miszczuk</a>, <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Janusz_Wojtycza&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Janusz Wojtycza (strona nie istnieje)">Janusz Wojtycza</a>, <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Kinast" title="Jan Kinast">Jan Kinast</a>, <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Czes%C5%82aw_Dejnarowicz&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Czesław Dejnarowicz (strona nie istnieje)">Czesław Dejnarowicz</a>, <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zygmunt_Janik&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Zygmunt Janik (strona nie istnieje)">Zygmunt Janik</a>, <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Henryk_Pytlik&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Henryk Pytlik (strona nie istnieje)">Henryk Pytlik</a>, <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pawe%C5%82_Raj&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Paweł Raj (strona nie istnieje)">Paweł Raj</a>, <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Piotr_Niwi%C5%84ski_(harcmistrz)&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Piotr Niwiński (harcmistrz) (strona nie istnieje)">Piotr Niwiński</a>, <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Grzegorz_Skrukwa&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Grzegorz Skrukwa (strona nie istnieje)">Grzegorz Skrukwa</a>, <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stanis%C5%82aw_Borowiecki&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Stanisław Borowiecki (strona nie istnieje)">Stanisław Borowiecki</a>, <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Orgelbrand" title="Jan Orgelbrand">Jan Orgelbrand</a>, <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogus%C5%82aw_%C5%9Aliwerski" title="Bogusław Śliwerski">Bogusław Śliwerski</a>, <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rados%C5%82aw_Rosiejka&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Radosław Rosiejka (strona nie istnieje)">Radosław Rosiejka</a>, <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Marta_Tittenbrun&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Marta Tittenbrun (strona nie istnieje)">Marta Tittenbrun</a>, <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Magdalena_Grze%C5%9Bkowiak&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Magdalena Grześkowiak (strona nie istnieje)">Magdalena Grześkowiak</a>, <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Katarzyna_Pietrasik&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Katarzyna Pietrasik (strona nie istnieje)">Katarzyna Pietrasik</a>, <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filip_Springer" title="Filip Springer">Filip Springer</a>, <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Marek_Piegat&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Marek Piegat (strona nie istnieje)">Marek Piegat</a>, <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ryszard_Polaszewski&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Ryszard Polaszewski (strona nie istnieje)">Ryszard Polaszewski</a>, <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wojciech_Nowotny" title="Wojciech Nowotny">Wojciech Nowotny</a>, <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartosz_Jab%C5%82o%C5%84ski" title="Bartosz Jabłoński">Bartosz Jabłoński</a></small></li></ul></li></ul>
-<p>Jestem ciekaw Waszych opinii. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Smyrwa" title="Wikipedysta:Smyrwa">Smyrwa</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Smyrwa" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Smyrwa">dyskusja</a>) 03:36, 24 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Smyrwa|2018-10-24T01:36:00.000Z|Encyklopedyczno\u015b\u0107_biogram\u00f3w_harcerskich&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|G\u017cdacz|2018-10-24T06:35:00.000Z|Smyrwa|2018-10-24T01:36:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-24T01:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Smyrwa&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p>Jestem ciekaw Waszych opinii. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Smyrwa" title="Wikipedysta:Smyrwa">Smyrwa</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Smyrwa" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Smyrwa">dyskusja</a>) 03:36, 24 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Smyrwa|2018-10-24T01:36:00.000Z|Encyklopedyczno\u015b\u0107_biogram\u00f3w_harcerskich&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|G\u017cdacz|2018-10-24T06:35:00.000Z|Smyrwa|2018-10-24T01:36:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-24T01:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Smyrwa&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gżdacz|2018-10-24T06:35:00.000Z|Smyrwa|2018-10-24T01:36:00.000Z"></span>Czy członek władz organizacji o kilkuset członkach staje się ency wyłącznie z tego powodu? Wątpię. Na tej zasadzie wielu sołtysów też powinno być ency, a tu przecież próg jest o wiele wyżej, nawet wójtowie nie stają się ency tylko dlatego że są wójtami. Organizacje harcerskie - jak najbardziej, łącznie z listą komendantów/naczelników/... w artykule, udział we władzach jest niewątpliwie osiągnięciem przybliżającym do ency, ale sam jednak nie wystarcza. Co innego organizacje harcerskie okresu pionierskiego, okupacji, wielkie współczesne. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:G%C5%BCdacz" title="Wikipedysta:Gżdacz">Gżdacz</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:G%C5%BCdacz" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Gżdacz">dyskusja</a>) 08:35, 24 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|G\u017cdacz|2018-10-24T06:35:00.000Z|Smyrwa|2018-10-24T01:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-24T06:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;G\u017cdacz&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gżdacz|2018-10-24T06:35:00.000Z|Smyrwa|2018-10-24T01:36:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Gżdacz|2018-10-24T06:35:00.000Z|Smyrwa|2018-10-24T01:36:00.000Z"></span>Czy członek władz organizacji o kilkuset członkach staje się ency wyłącznie z tego powodu? Wątpię. Na tej zasadzie wielu sołtysów też powinno być ency, a tu przecież próg jest o wiele wyżej, nawet wójtowie nie stają się ency tylko dlatego że są wójtami. Organizacje harcerskie - jak najbardziej, łącznie z listą komendantów/naczelników/... w artykule, udział we władzach jest niewątpliwie osiągnięciem przybliżającym do ency, ale sam jednak nie wystarcza. Co innego organizacje harcerskie okresu pionierskiego, okupacji, wielkie współczesne. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:G%C5%BCdacz" title="Wikipedysta:Gżdacz">Gżdacz</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:G%C5%BCdacz" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Gżdacz">dyskusja</a>) 08:35, 24 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|G\u017cdacz|2018-10-24T06:35:00.000Z|Smyrwa|2018-10-24T01:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-24T06:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;G\u017cdacz&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Gżdacz|2018-10-24T06:35:00.000Z|Smyrwa|2018-10-24T01:36:00.000Z"></span></li>
 <li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Pbk|2018-10-24T15:14:00.000Z|Encyklopedyczność_biogramów_harcerskich"></span>mam wątpliwości, co do działaczy współczesnych, w szczególności tych oznaczonych wyżej jako "fakultatywnie:". Członkowie wieloosobowych organów powinni być encyklopedyczni, jeśli wykaże się ich szczególne osiągnięcia, bez autoencyklopedyczności za samą funkcję. Nie uznajemy np. za autoencyklopedycznych radnych miejskich, lub członków zarządu PZPN.</li></ul>
 <p>Ponadto jeśli chodzi o działaczy małych organizacji harcerskich, to chyba powinniśmy robić tak, jak w przypadku partii politycznych. Jeśli partia nie jest kanapowa i ma jaką rozpoznawalność, to zostaje. W innym wypadku biogramy usuwano. Dotyczyło to nawet partii, które były rozpoznawalne, ale w przeszłości. 
 </p><p>W przypadku mediów harcerskich powinno się działać na ogólnych zasadach, jak z innymi dziennikarzami.
 </p><p>W zaproszeniu o dyskusji było odwołanie do HSB. Czy naprawdę zgłaszający uważa, że p. Skupińska (przykładowo) dostałaby się Słownika, gdyby nie było w nim ograniczenia do osób nieżyjących?--<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Pbk" title="Wikipedysta:Pbk">Pbk</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Pbk" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Pbk">dyskusja</a>) 17:14, 24 paź 2018 (CEST)
-PS. HSB jest dostępny online <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://muzeumharcerstwa.pl/index.php/hsb">tutaj</a>--<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Pbk" title="Wikipedysta:Pbk">Pbk</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Pbk" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Pbk">dyskusja</a>) 17:17, 24 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pbk|2018-10-24T15:14:00.000Z|Encyklopedyczno\u015b\u0107_biogram\u00f3w_harcerskich&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Smyrwa|2018-10-30T14:58:00.000Z|Pbk|2018-10-24T15:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Andrzei111|2018-10-25T10:50:00.000Z|Pbk|2018-10-24T15:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Felis domestica|2018-10-25T10:59:00.000Z|Pbk|2018-10-24T15:14:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-24T15:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pbk&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+PS. HSB jest dostępny online <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://muzeumharcerstwa.pl/index.php/hsb">tutaj</a>--<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Pbk" title="Wikipedysta:Pbk">Pbk</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Pbk" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Pbk">dyskusja</a>) 17:17, 24 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Pbk|2018-10-24T15:14:00.000Z|Encyklopedyczno\u015b\u0107_biogram\u00f3w_harcerskich&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Smyrwa|2018-10-30T14:58:00.000Z|Pbk|2018-10-24T15:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Andrzei111|2018-10-25T10:50:00.000Z|Pbk|2018-10-24T15:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Felis domestica|2018-10-25T10:59:00.000Z|Pbk|2018-10-24T15:14:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-24T15:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Pbk&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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 <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Smyrwa|2018-10-30T14:58:00.000Z|Pbk|2018-10-24T15:14:00.000Z"></span>"Jakaś rozpoznawalność" jest kryterium bardzo niejednoznacznym. Poza tym jest też wiele przykładów partii kanapowych, których działacze mają swoje hasła z innych względów (np. dlatego, że byli posłami na Sejm, tu wystarczy jedna kadencja), tak że takich usuniętych biogramów to chyba niewiele było...</dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd>Co do kryteriów przyjętych w HSB to nie są one ścisłe, więc trudno powiedzieć, kto je spełnia. Obstawiam, że hm. Skupińska będzie w HSB w przyszłości, w jednym z kolejnych tomów. Do sprawdzenia za kilkadziesiąt lat :-) W HSB jest generalna zasada, spisana w instrukcji redakcyjnej: <i>Harcerski Słownik Biograficzny zawiera artykuły oparte na wynikach badań naukowych i zaopatrzone w dokumentację źródłową, informujące o biegu życia, działalności i osiągnięciach osób, które odegrały istotną rolę w życiu Związku Harcerstwa Polskiego w całym ciągu jego historii</i>. W praktyce (wiem, bo opracowywałem informacje do kilku biogramów) zdarzają się tam hasła dobrze udokumentowane, ale w źródłach harcerskich (np. rozkazach komend), niekoniecznie wielkonakładowych czy internetowych, jakich coraz częściej wymaga się w Wikipedii. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Smyrwa" title="Wikipedysta:Smyrwa">Smyrwa</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Smyrwa" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Smyrwa">dyskusja</a>) 15:58, 30 paź 2018 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Smyrwa|2018-10-30T14:58:00.000Z|Pbk|2018-10-24T15:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-30T14:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Smyrwa&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Smyrwa|2018-10-30T14:58:00.000Z|Pbk|2018-10-24T15:14:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Andrzei111|2018-10-25T10:50:00.000Z|Pbk|2018-10-24T15:14:00.000Z"></span>Czy to będzie ZHP, PZPN czy Caritas – sama przynależność do wieloosobowych władz centralnych <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ENCY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ENCY">encyklopedyczności</a> nie daje. Jest na pewno dodatkową przesłanką, ale nie może być uznana za czynnik „encydający”. Ale potrzebne są inne przesłanki – np. autorstwo książek, ważne odznaczenia państwowe czy nagrody branżowe. Oczywiście mocną przesłanką będzie posiadanie biogramu w HSB. Poza tym podpisuje się pod tym co napisali Gżdacz i Pbk <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Andrzei111" title="Wikipedysta:Andrzei111">Andrzei111</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Andrzei111" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Andrzei111">dyskusja</a>) 12:50, 25 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Andrzei111|2018-10-25T10:50:00.000Z|Pbk|2018-10-24T15:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Smyrwa|2018-10-30T14:58:00.000Z|Andrzei111|2018-10-25T10:50:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-25T10:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Andrzei111&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Andrzei111|2018-10-25T10:50:00.000Z|Pbk|2018-10-24T15:14:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Smyrwa|2018-10-30T14:58:00.000Z|Andrzei111|2018-10-25T10:50:00.000Z"></span>Zastanawiam się, na ile wymienione przez <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Andrzei111" title="Wikipedysta:Andrzei111">Andrzei111</a> organizacje są porównywalne. Jeśli chodzi o czas trwania, to tak. Jeśli zaś wziąć liczbę członków, to chyba nie. ZHP i inne organizacje harcerskie mają bardziej zróżnicowany profil działalności i przez to bardziej różnorodne oddziaływanie. Więc to jednak nie to samo. Co do HSB, to mamy tu zgodę, nikt tego nie kwestionuje, obecność w HSB daje encyklopedyczność. Natomiast w przypadku osób obecnie działających, to jestem za automatyczną encyklopedycznością dla naczelników i przewodniczących, przynajmniej najważniejszych, kilkutysięcznych organizacji. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Smyrwa" title="Wikipedysta:Smyrwa">Smyrwa</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Smyrwa" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Smyrwa">dyskusja</a>) 15:58, 30 paź 2018 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Smyrwa|2018-10-30T14:58:00.000Z|Andrzei111|2018-10-25T10:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-30T14:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Smyrwa&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Smyrwa|2018-10-30T14:58:00.000Z|Andrzei111|2018-10-25T10:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Felis domestica|2018-10-25T10:59:00.000Z|Pbk|2018-10-24T15:14:00.000Z"></span>Osobiście jestem zdania, że tych biogramów nie jest na tyle dużo by była konieczność ustanawiania kolejnych reguł autoencyklopedyczności (bo o to zasadniczo chodzi). Co do szczegółów, to z wymienionych organizacji <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kr%C4%85g_Harcerski_Drzewo_Pokoju&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Krąg Harcerski Drzewo Pokoju (strona nie istnieje)">Krąg Harcerski Drzewo Pokoju</a> zgłosiłem do Poczekalni jako nieencyklopedyczne, a więc i szefowanie mu uznaję za nie-encydające--<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Felis_domestica" title="Wikipedysta:Felis domestica">Felis domestica</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Felis_domestica" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Felis domestica">dyskusja</a>) 12:59, 25 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Felis domestica|2018-10-25T10:59:00.000Z|Pbk|2018-10-24T15:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-25T10:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Felis domestica&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Felis domestica|2018-10-25T10:59:00.000Z|Pbk|2018-10-24T15:14:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T20:03:00.000Z|Encyklopedyczność_biogramów_harcerskich"></span>Nieżyjący są ency jeżeli są w Słowniku; żyjący są autoency przewodniczący ZHP i ZHR, dla dziennikarzy harcerskich zasady jak dla wszystkich innych. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:BasileusAutokratorPL" title="Wikipedysta:BasileusAutokratorPL">BasileusAutokratorPL</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:BasileusAutokratorPL" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:BasileusAutokratorPL">dyskusja</a>) 22:03, 25 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T20:03:00.000Z|Encyklopedyczno\u015b\u0107_biogram\u00f3w_harcerskich&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Smyrwa|2018-10-30T14:58:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T20:03:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-25T20:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;BasileusAutokratorPL&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd>Co do kryteriów przyjętych w HSB to nie są one ścisłe, więc trudno powiedzieć, kto je spełnia. Obstawiam, że hm. Skupińska będzie w HSB w przyszłości, w jednym z kolejnych tomów. Do sprawdzenia za kilkadziesiąt lat :-) W HSB jest generalna zasada, spisana w instrukcji redakcyjnej: <i>Harcerski Słownik Biograficzny zawiera artykuły oparte na wynikach badań naukowych i zaopatrzone w dokumentację źródłową, informujące o biegu życia, działalności i osiągnięciach osób, które odegrały istotną rolę w życiu Związku Harcerstwa Polskiego w całym ciągu jego historii</i>. W praktyce (wiem, bo opracowywałem informacje do kilku biogramów) zdarzają się tam hasła dobrze udokumentowane, ale w źródłach harcerskich (np. rozkazach komend), niekoniecznie wielkonakładowych czy internetowych, jakich coraz częściej wymaga się w Wikipedii. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Smyrwa" title="Wikipedysta:Smyrwa">Smyrwa</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Smyrwa" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Smyrwa">dyskusja</a>) 15:58, 30 paź 2018 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Smyrwa|2018-10-30T14:58:00.000Z|Pbk|2018-10-24T15:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-30T14:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Smyrwa&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Smyrwa|2018-10-30T14:58:00.000Z|Pbk|2018-10-24T15:14:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Andrzei111|2018-10-25T10:50:00.000Z|Pbk|2018-10-24T15:14:00.000Z"></span>Czy to będzie ZHP, PZPN czy Caritas – sama przynależność do wieloosobowych władz centralnych <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ENCY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ENCY">encyklopedyczności</a> nie daje. Jest na pewno dodatkową przesłanką, ale nie może być uznana za czynnik „encydający”. Ale potrzebne są inne przesłanki – np. autorstwo książek, ważne odznaczenia państwowe czy nagrody branżowe. Oczywiście mocną przesłanką będzie posiadanie biogramu w HSB. Poza tym podpisuje się pod tym co napisali Gżdacz i Pbk <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Andrzei111" title="Wikipedysta:Andrzei111">Andrzei111</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Andrzei111" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Andrzei111">dyskusja</a>) 12:50, 25 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Andrzei111|2018-10-25T10:50:00.000Z|Pbk|2018-10-24T15:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Smyrwa|2018-10-30T14:58:00.000Z|Andrzei111|2018-10-25T10:50:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-25T10:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Andrzei111&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Andrzei111|2018-10-25T10:50:00.000Z|Pbk|2018-10-24T15:14:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Smyrwa|2018-10-30T14:58:00.000Z|Andrzei111|2018-10-25T10:50:00.000Z"></span>Zastanawiam się, na ile wymienione przez <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Andrzei111" title="Wikipedysta:Andrzei111">Andrzei111</a> organizacje są porównywalne. Jeśli chodzi o czas trwania, to tak. Jeśli zaś wziąć liczbę członków, to chyba nie. ZHP i inne organizacje harcerskie mają bardziej zróżnicowany profil działalności i przez to bardziej różnorodne oddziaływanie. Więc to jednak nie to samo. Co do HSB, to mamy tu zgodę, nikt tego nie kwestionuje, obecność w HSB daje encyklopedyczność. Natomiast w przypadku osób obecnie działających, to jestem za automatyczną encyklopedycznością dla naczelników i przewodniczących, przynajmniej najważniejszych, kilkutysięcznych organizacji. --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Smyrwa" title="Wikipedysta:Smyrwa">Smyrwa</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Smyrwa" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Smyrwa">dyskusja</a>) 15:58, 30 paź 2018 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Smyrwa|2018-10-30T14:58:00.000Z|Andrzei111|2018-10-25T10:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-30T14:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Smyrwa&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Smyrwa|2018-10-30T14:58:00.000Z|Andrzei111|2018-10-25T10:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Felis domestica|2018-10-25T10:59:00.000Z|Pbk|2018-10-24T15:14:00.000Z"></span>Osobiście jestem zdania, że tych biogramów nie jest na tyle dużo by była konieczność ustanawiania kolejnych reguł autoencyklopedyczności (bo o to zasadniczo chodzi). Co do szczegółów, to z wymienionych organizacji <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kr%C4%85g_Harcerski_Drzewo_Pokoju&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Krąg Harcerski Drzewo Pokoju (strona nie istnieje)">Krąg Harcerski Drzewo Pokoju</a> zgłosiłem do Poczekalni jako nieencyklopedyczne, a więc i szefowanie mu uznaję za nie-encydające--<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Felis_domestica" title="Wikipedysta:Felis domestica">Felis domestica</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Felis_domestica" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Felis domestica">dyskusja</a>) 12:59, 25 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Felis domestica|2018-10-25T10:59:00.000Z|Pbk|2018-10-24T15:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-25T10:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Felis domestica&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Felis domestica|2018-10-25T10:59:00.000Z|Pbk|2018-10-24T15:14:00.000Z"></span></li></ul>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T20:03:00.000Z|Encyklopedyczność_biogramów_harcerskich"></span>Nieżyjący są ency jeżeli są w Słowniku; żyjący są autoency przewodniczący ZHP i ZHR, dla dziennikarzy harcerskich zasady jak dla wszystkich innych. <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:BasileusAutokratorPL" title="Wikipedysta:BasileusAutokratorPL">BasileusAutokratorPL</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:BasileusAutokratorPL" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:BasileusAutokratorPL">dyskusja</a>) 22:03, 25 paź 2018 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T20:03:00.000Z|Encyklopedyczno\u015b\u0107_biogram\u00f3w_harcerskich&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Smyrwa|2018-10-30T14:58:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T20:03:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-25T20:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;BasileusAutokratorPL&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Smyrwa|2018-10-30T14:58:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T20:03:00.000Z"></span>O HSB wyżej. Co do dziennikarzy, czy faktycznie nie mamy zasad dotyczących dziennikarzy? Może mamy, tylko nie są skodyfikowane? Redaktora naczelnego dużej redakcji ogólnopolskiego dziennika traktujemy tak samo jak małej comiesięcznej gazety lokalnej, zajmującej się sprawami miasta czy gminy? A co z twórcami autorskich programów w telewizji, o dużej oglądalności? --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Smyrwa" title="Wikipedysta:Smyrwa">Smyrwa</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Smyrwa" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Smyrwa">dyskusja</a>) 15:58, 30 paź 2018 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Smyrwa|2018-10-30T14:58:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T20:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-30T14:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Smyrwa&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Smyrwa|2018-10-30T14:58:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T20:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Smyrwa|2018-10-30T14:58:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T20:03:00.000Z"></span>O HSB wyżej. Co do dziennikarzy, czy faktycznie nie mamy zasad dotyczących dziennikarzy? Może mamy, tylko nie są skodyfikowane? Redaktora naczelnego dużej redakcji ogólnopolskiego dziennika traktujemy tak samo jak małej comiesięcznej gazety lokalnej, zajmującej się sprawami miasta czy gminy? A co z twórcami autorskich programów w telewizji, o dużej oglądalności? --<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Smyrwa" title="Wikipedysta:Smyrwa">Smyrwa</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Smyrwa" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Smyrwa">dyskusja</a>) 15:58, 30 paź 2018 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Smyrwa|2018-10-30T14:58:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T20:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-30T14:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Smyrwa&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Smyrwa|2018-10-30T14:58:00.000Z|BasileusAutokratorPL|2018-10-25T20:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ciacho5|2018-10-31T13:57:00.000Z|Szablon?_do_zrobienia?"></span>W artykule <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Har_Rai" title="Har Rai">Har Rai</a> i kilku innych @<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedysta:Rv350jaworzno&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Wikipedysta:Rv350jaworzno (strona nie istnieje)">Rv350jaworzno</a> wstawił/ła tabelkę z 11 guru. Po co taka tabelka w imiennych artykułach? Natomiast chyba można byłoby to na szablon przerobić. Zechce ktoś pomóc ambitnemu nowicjuszowi? <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Ciacho5" title="Wikipedysta:Ciacho5">Ciacho5</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Ciacho5" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Ciacho5">dyskusja</a>) 14:57, 31 paź 2018 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ciacho5|2018-10-31T13:57:00.000Z|Szablon?_do_zrobienia?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Malarz pl|2018-10-31T14:55:00.000Z|Ciacho5|2018-10-31T13:57:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-31T13:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ciacho5&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Ciacho5|2018-10-31T13:57:00.000Z|Szablon?_do_zrobienia?"></span>W artykule <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Har_Rai" title="Har Rai">Har Rai</a> i kilku innych @<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedysta:Rv350jaworzno&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Wikipedysta:Rv350jaworzno (strona nie istnieje)">Rv350jaworzno</a> wstawił/ła tabelkę z 11 guru. Po co taka tabelka w imiennych artykułach? Natomiast chyba można byłoby to na szablon przerobić. Zechce ktoś pomóc ambitnemu nowicjuszowi? <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Ciacho5" title="Wikipedysta:Ciacho5">Ciacho5</a> (<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Ciacho5" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Ciacho5">dyskusja</a>) 14:57, 31 paź 2018 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Ciacho5|2018-10-31T13:57:00.000Z|Szablon?_do_zrobienia?&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Malarz pl|2018-10-31T14:55:00.000Z|Ciacho5|2018-10-31T13:57:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-31T13:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Ciacho5&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Malarz pl|2018-10-31T14:55:00.000Z|Ciacho5|2018-10-31T13:57:00.000Z"></span>Jak najbardziej. Tylko bez dat urodzenia. ~<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Malarz_pl" title="Wikipedysta:Malarz pl"><span style="color:blue; font-weight:bold;">malarz pl</span></a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Malarz_pl" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Malarz pl"><sup><span style="color:red; font-style:italic;">PISZ</span></sup></a> 15:55, 31 paź 2018 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Malarz pl|2018-10-31T14:55:00.000Z|Ciacho5|2018-10-31T13:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-31T14:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Malarz pl&quot;}">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Malarz pl|2018-10-31T14:55:00.000Z|Ciacho5|2018-10-31T13:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Malarz pl|2018-10-31T14:55:00.000Z|Ciacho5|2018-10-31T13:57:00.000Z"></span>Jak najbardziej. Tylko bez dat urodzenia. ~<a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedysta:Malarz_pl" title="Wikipedysta:Malarz pl"><span style="color:blue; font-weight:bold;">malarz pl</span></a> <a href="//pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Malarz_pl" title="Dyskusja wikipedysty:Malarz pl"><sup><span style="color:red; font-style:italic;">PISZ</span></sup></a> 15:55, 31 paź 2018 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Malarz pl|2018-10-31T14:55:00.000Z|Ciacho5|2018-10-31T13:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2018-10-31T14:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Malarz pl&quot;}" href="">odpowiedz</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Malarz pl|2018-10-31T14:55:00.000Z|Ciacho5|2018-10-31T13:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
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-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:32:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:31:00.000Z"></span>bbb <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 08:32, 25 January 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:32:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:33:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-25T08:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:32:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:31:00.000Z"></span>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:34:00.000Z|multi_signatures"></span>multi-line top level <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 08:34, 25 January 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:34:00.000Z|multi_signatures&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-25T08:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:34:00.000Z|multi_signatures"></span>
-</p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:34:00.000Z|multi_signatures|1"></span>ddd <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 08:34, 25 January 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:34:00.000Z|multi_signatures|1&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:35:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:36:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:37:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:34:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-25T08:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:34:00.000Z|multi_signatures|1"></span>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:32:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:31:00.000Z"></span>bbb <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 08:32, 25 January 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:32:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:33:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-25T08:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:32:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:31:00.000Z"></span>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:33:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:32:00.000Z"></span>ccc <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 08:33, 25 January 2020 (UTC) amended! <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 08:43, 25 January 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:33:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-25T08:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:33:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:32:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:34:00.000Z|multi_signatures"></span>multi-line top level <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 08:34, 25 January 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:34:00.000Z|multi_signatures&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-25T08:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:34:00.000Z|multi_signatures"></span>
+</p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:34:00.000Z|multi_signatures|1"></span>ddd <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 08:34, 25 January 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:34:00.000Z|multi_signatures|1&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:35:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:36:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:37:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:34:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-25T08:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:34:00.000Z|multi_signatures|1"></span>
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-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:35:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:34:00.000Z"></span>eee <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 08:35, 25 January 2020 (UTC) amended! <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 08:45, 25 January 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:35:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-25T08:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:35:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:34:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:36:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:34:00.000Z"></span>fff <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 08:36, 25 January 2020 (UTC) also!<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:36:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-25T08:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:36:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:34:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:37:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:34:00.000Z"></span>fff <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 08:37, 25 January 2020 (UTC) and <i>also</i>!<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:37:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:38:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:38:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:37:00.000Z|1&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-25T08:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:37:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:34:00.000Z"></span>
-<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:38:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:37:00.000Z"></span>multi-line reply <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 08:38, 25 January 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:38:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-25T08:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:38:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:37:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:38:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:37:00.000Z|1"></span>ggg <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 08:38, 25 January 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:38:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:37:00.000Z|1&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-25T08:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:38:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:37:00.000Z|1"></span></li></ul></li></ul>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:35:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:34:00.000Z"></span>eee <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 08:35, 25 January 2020 (UTC) amended! <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 08:45, 25 January 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:35:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-25T08:35:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:35:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:34:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:36:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:34:00.000Z"></span>fff <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 08:36, 25 January 2020 (UTC) also!<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:36:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-25T08:36:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:36:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:34:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:37:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:34:00.000Z"></span>fff <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 08:37, 25 January 2020 (UTC) and <i>also</i>!<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:37:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:38:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:38:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:37:00.000Z|1&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-25T08:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:37:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:34:00.000Z"></span>
+<ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:38:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:37:00.000Z"></span>multi-line reply <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 08:38, 25 January 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:38:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-25T08:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:38:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:37:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:38:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:37:00.000Z|1"></span>ggg <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 08:38, 25 January 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:38:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:37:00.000Z|1&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-25T08:38:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:38:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-25T08:37:00.000Z|1"></span></li></ul></li></ul>
 
 <h2><span id="hello_Matma_Rex_.28talk.29_18:27.2C_2_November_2020_.28UTC.29"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)|2020-01-25T08:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)&quot;,&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:29:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)&quot;,&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:30:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)&quot;,&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:31:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)&quot;,&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:32:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)&quot;,&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:33:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)&quot;,&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:33:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)|1&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)|2020-01-25T08:32:00.000Z"></span>hello <a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex"><font color="green"><i>talk</i></font></a>) 18:27, 2 November 2020 (UTC)<span data-mw-comment-end="h|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)|2020-01-25T08:32:00.000Z"></span></span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Signature_in_heading&amp;action=edit&amp;section=1" title="Edit section: hello Matma Rex (talk) 18:27, 2 November 2020 (UTC)">edit source</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)"></span>hello <a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex"><font color="green"><i>talk</i></font></a>) 18:28, 2 November 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-11-03T12:00:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Bob|2020-01-25T08:32:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-11-03T12:01:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-11-03T12:02:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Bob|2020-01-25T08:32:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z|1&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)"></span>hello <a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex"><font color="green"><i>talk</i></font></a>) 18:28, 2 November 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-11-03T12:00:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Bob|2020-01-25T08:32:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-11-03T12:01:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-11-03T12:02:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|Bob|2020-01-25T08:32:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z|1&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)"></span>
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-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-03T12:00:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z"></span>Quoting another comment: <blockquote>bbb <b><a href="/wiki/User:Bob" title="User:Bob">Bob</a></b> 08:32, 25 January 2020 (UTC)</blockquote> <a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex"><font color="green"><i>talk</i></font></a>) 12:00, 3 November 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-11-03T12:00:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-03T12:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-03T12:00:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bob|2020-01-25T08:32:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z"></span>Quoting another comment, but without the right markup: <dl><dd>bbb <b><a href="/wiki/User:Bob" title="User:Bob">Bob</a></b> 08:32, 25 January 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bob|2020-01-25T08:32:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-25T08:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bob&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bob|2020-01-25T08:32:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-03T12:01:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z"></span>Matma Rex</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex"><font color="green"><i>talk</i></font></a>) 12:01, 3 November 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-11-03T12:01:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-03T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-03T12:01:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-03T12:02:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z"></span>Quoting another comment inline: <q>bbb <b><a href="/wiki/User:Bob" title="User:Bob">Bob</a></b> 08:32, 25 January 2020 (UTC)</q>. <a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex"><font color="green"><i>talk</i></font></a>) 12:02, 3 November 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-11-03T12:02:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-03T12:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-03T12:02:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z"></span></li>
-<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bob|2020-01-25T08:32:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z|1"></span>Quoting another comment inline, but without the right markup: "bbb <b><a href="/wiki/User:Bob" title="User:Bob">Bob</a></b> 08:32, 25 January 2020 (UTC)". <a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex"><font color="green"><i>talk</i></font></a>) 12:03, 3 November 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bob|2020-01-25T08:32:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z|1&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-25T08:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bob&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bob|2020-01-25T08:32:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z|1"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-03T12:00:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z"></span>Quoting another comment: <blockquote>bbb <b><a href="/wiki/User:Bob" title="User:Bob">Bob</a></b> 08:32, 25 January 2020 (UTC)</blockquote> <a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex"><font color="green"><i>talk</i></font></a>) 12:00, 3 November 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-11-03T12:00:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-03T12:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-03T12:00:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bob|2020-01-25T08:32:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z"></span>Quoting another comment, but without the right markup: <dl><dd>bbb <b><a href="/wiki/User:Bob" title="User:Bob">Bob</a></b> 08:32, 25 January 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bob|2020-01-25T08:32:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-25T08:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bob&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bob|2020-01-25T08:32:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-03T12:01:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z"></span>Matma Rex</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex"><font color="green"><i>talk</i></font></a>) 12:01, 3 November 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-11-03T12:01:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-03T12:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-03T12:01:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-03T12:02:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z"></span>Quoting another comment inline: <q>bbb <b><a href="/wiki/User:Bob" title="User:Bob">Bob</a></b> 08:32, 25 January 2020 (UTC)</q>. <a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex"><font color="green"><i>talk</i></font></a>) 12:02, 3 November 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-11-03T12:02:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-03T12:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-03T12:02:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z"></span></li>
+<li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Bob|2020-01-25T08:32:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z|1"></span>Quoting another comment inline, but without the right markup: "bbb <b><a href="/wiki/User:Bob" title="User:Bob">Bob</a></b> 08:32, 25 January 2020 (UTC)". <a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex"><font color="green"><i>talk</i></font></a>) 12:03, 3 November 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Bob|2020-01-25T08:32:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z|1&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-25T08:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Bob&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Bob|2020-01-25T08:32:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:28:00.000Z|1"></span></li>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:29:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)"></span>Wrapped signature. <small><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex"><font color="green"><i>talk</i></font></a>) 18:29, 2 November 2020 (UTC)<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:29:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)"></span></small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:29:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-02T18:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></p>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:30:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)"></span>Double wrapped signature. <sup><small><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex"><font color="green"><i>talk</i></font></a>) 18:30, 2 November 2020 (UTC)</small><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:30:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)"></span></sup><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:30:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-02T18:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></p>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:31:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)"></span>Double wrapped signature with inner trailing text. <sup><small><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex"><font color="green"><i>talk</i></font></a>) 18:31, 2 November 2020 (UTC)</small>text<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:31:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)"></span></sup><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:31:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-02T18:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></p>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:32:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)"></span>Double wrapped signature with outer trailing text. <sup><small><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex"><font color="green"><i>talk</i></font></a>) 18:32, 2 November 2020 (UTC)</small></sup>text<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:32:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-02T18:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:32:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)"></span></p>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:33:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)"></span>Trailing tags. <a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex"><font color="green"><i>talk</i></font></a>) 18:33, 2 November 2020 (UTC)<span>foo<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:33:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)"></span></span><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:33:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-02T18:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></p>
-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:33:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)|1"></span>Trailing void tags (br). <a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex"><font color="green"><i>talk</i></font></a>) 18:33, 2 November 2020 (UTC)<br/><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:33:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)|1&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-02T18:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:33:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)|1"></span></p>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:29:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)"></span>Wrapped signature. <small><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex"><font color="green"><i>talk</i></font></a>) 18:29, 2 November 2020 (UTC)<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:29:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)"></span></small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:29:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-02T18:29:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></p>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:30:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)"></span>Double wrapped signature. <sup><small><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex"><font color="green"><i>talk</i></font></a>) 18:30, 2 November 2020 (UTC)</small><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:30:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)"></span></sup><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:30:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-02T18:30:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></p>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:31:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)"></span>Double wrapped signature with inner trailing text. <sup><small><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex"><font color="green"><i>talk</i></font></a>) 18:31, 2 November 2020 (UTC)</small>text<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:31:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)"></span></sup><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:31:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-02T18:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></p>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:32:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)"></span>Double wrapped signature with outer trailing text. <sup><small><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex"><font color="green"><i>talk</i></font></a>) 18:32, 2 November 2020 (UTC)</small></sup>text<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:32:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-02T18:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:32:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)"></span></p>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:33:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)"></span>Trailing tags. <a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex"><font color="green"><i>talk</i></font></a>) 18:33, 2 November 2020 (UTC)<span>foo<span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:33:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)"></span></span><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:33:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-02T18:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></p>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:33:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)|1"></span>Trailing void tags (br). <a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex"><font color="green"><i>talk</i></font></a>) 18:33, 2 November 2020 (UTC)<br/><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:33:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)|1&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-02T18:33:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:33:00.000Z|hello_Matma_Rex_(talk)_18:27,_2_November_2020_(UTC)|1"></span></p>
 
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:34:00.000Z|Transcluded"></span>comment <a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex"><font color="green"><i>talk</i></font></a>) 18:34, 2 November 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:34:00.000Z|Transcluded&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-02T18:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:34:00.000Z|Transcluded"></span></p>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:34:00.000Z|Transcluded"></span>comment <a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex"><font color="green"><i>talk</i></font></a>) 18:34, 2 November 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:34:00.000Z|Transcluded&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-02T18:34:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-11-02T18:34:00.000Z|Transcluded"></span></p>
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-<span data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h||2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|1&quot;,&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|2&quot;,&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|3&quot;,&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|4&quot;,&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|5&quot;,&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|6&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:99,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:true}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h||2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="h||2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span></span><div class="mw-parser-output"><p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span>Is het niet handig om een sectie "nieuws/aankondiginen" op op te nemen? <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:55:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-04-09T23:57:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span>
+<span data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h||2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|1&quot;,&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|2&quot;,&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|3&quot;,&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|4&quot;,&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|5&quot;,&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|6&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:99,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:true}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h||2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="h||2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span></span><div class="mw-parser-output"><p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span>Is het niet handig om een sectie "nieuws/aankondiginen" op op te nemen? <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:55:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-04-09T23:57:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span>
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-<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span>active editor <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 26 mei 2020 22:23 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:32:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-28T22:05:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-07-29T02:21:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><a class="external text" href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki%7C"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:32:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z"></span>Test</a>. <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 26 mei 2020 22:32 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:32:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-07-29T02:21:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-05-26T20:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:32:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-07-29T02:21:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:32:00.000Z"></span>unpatch <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 29 jul 2020 04:21 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-07-29T02:21:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-12T00:05:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-07-29T02:21:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-07-29T02:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-07-29T02:21:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:32:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-12T00:05:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-07-29T02:21:00.000Z"></span>het is en goedkoop ei <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 12 aug 2020 02:05 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-12T00:05:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-07-29T02:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:47:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-12T00:05:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-08-12T00:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-12T00:05:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-07-29T02:21:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:47:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-12T00:05:00.000Z"></span>first <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 18 nov 2020 00:47 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:47:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-12T00:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:47:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-17T23:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:47:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-12T00:05:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:47:00.000Z"></span>second <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 18 nov 2020 00:48 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:47:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z"></span>third <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 18 nov 2020 00:48 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:9,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|1&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|1"></span>fourth <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 18 nov 2020 00:48 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:10,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|1&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|2&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|1"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|2"></span>fifth <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 18 nov 2020 00:48 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:11,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|2&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|2"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-28T22:05:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z"></span>RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 29 mei 2020 00:05 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-28T22:05:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-28T22:05:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-28T22:05:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-05-28T22:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-28T22:05:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-28T22:05:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-28T22:05:00.000Z"></span>RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 29 mei 2020 00:05 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-28T22:05:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-28T22:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-05-28T22:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-28T22:05:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-28T22:05:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-07-29T02:21:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z"></span>test <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 29 jul 2020 04:21 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-07-29T02:21:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-07-29T02:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-07-29T02:21:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z"></span>one <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 18 nov 2020 01:15 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span>RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 26 mei 2020 23:01 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z"></span>three <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 26 mei 2020 23:01 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:02:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:47:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:02:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z"></span>five <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 26 mei 2020 23:02 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:02:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-26T16:57:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:02:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-05-26T21:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:02:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-26T16:57:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:02:00.000Z"></span>test <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 26 okt 2020 17:57 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-26T16:57:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-10-26T16:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-26T16:57:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:02:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><i><b><sup><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:47:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z"></span>visual edit</sup></b></i> <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 22 okt 2020 20:47 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:47:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:47:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:47:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-10-22T18:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:47:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:47:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:47:00.000Z"></span>source edit and unwatch <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 22 okt 2020 20:47 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:47:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:48:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:47:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-10-22T18:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:47:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:47:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:48:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:47:00.000Z"></span>source watch and summary edited <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 22 okt 2020 20:48 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:48:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:50:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:48:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-10-22T18:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:48:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:47:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span>active editor <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 26 mei 2020 22:23 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:32:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-28T22:05:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-07-29T02:21:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><a class="external text" href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki%7C"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:32:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z"></span>Test</a>. <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 26 mei 2020 22:32 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:32:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-07-29T02:21:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:32:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-05-26T20:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:32:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-07-29T02:21:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:32:00.000Z"></span>unpatch <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 29 jul 2020 04:21 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-07-29T02:21:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-12T00:05:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-07-29T02:21:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-07-29T02:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-07-29T02:21:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:32:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-12T00:05:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-07-29T02:21:00.000Z"></span>het is en goedkoop ei <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 12 aug 2020 02:05 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-12T00:05:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-07-29T02:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:47:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-12T00:05:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-08-12T00:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-12T00:05:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-07-29T02:21:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:47:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-12T00:05:00.000Z"></span>first <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 18 nov 2020 00:47 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:47:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-12T00:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:47:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-17T23:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:47:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-12T00:05:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:47:00.000Z"></span>second <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 18 nov 2020 00:48 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:47:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z"></span>third <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 18 nov 2020 00:48 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:9,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|1&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|1"></span>fourth <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 18 nov 2020 00:48 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:10,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|1&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|2&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|1"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|2"></span>fifth <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 18 nov 2020 00:48 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:11,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|2&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-17T23:48:00.000Z|2"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-28T22:05:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z"></span>RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 29 mei 2020 00:05 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-28T22:05:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-28T22:05:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-28T22:05:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-05-28T22:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-28T22:05:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-28T22:05:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-28T22:05:00.000Z"></span>RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 29 mei 2020 00:05 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-28T22:05:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-28T22:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-05-28T22:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-28T22:05:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-28T22:05:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-07-29T02:21:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z"></span>test <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 29 jul 2020 04:21 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-07-29T02:21:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-07-29T02:21:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-07-29T02:21:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z"></span>one <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 18 nov 2020 01:15 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T20:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span>RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 26 mei 2020 23:01 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z"></span>three <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 26 mei 2020 23:01 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:02:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:47:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:02:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z"></span>five <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 26 mei 2020 23:02 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:02:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-26T16:57:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:02:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-05-26T21:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:02:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-26T16:57:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:02:00.000Z"></span>test <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 26 okt 2020 17:57 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-26T16:57:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:02:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-10-26T16:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-26T16:57:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:02:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><i><b><sup><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:47:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z"></span>visual edit</sup></b></i> <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 22 okt 2020 20:47 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:47:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:47:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:47:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-10-22T18:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:47:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-05-26T21:01:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:47:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:47:00.000Z"></span>source edit and unwatch <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 22 okt 2020 20:47 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:47:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:48:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:47:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-10-22T18:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:47:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:47:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:48:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:47:00.000Z"></span>source watch and summary edited <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 22 okt 2020 20:48 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:48:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:47:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:50:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:48:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-10-22T18:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:48:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:47:00.000Z"></span>
 <dl><dd><sub><s><code><u><small><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:50:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:48:00.000Z"></span>visual unwatch</small></u></code></s></sub></dd>
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-<dd>@<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 22 okt 2020 20:50 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:50:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-10-22T18:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:50:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:48:00.000Z"></span></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:48:00.000Z"></span>two <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 18 nov 2020 01:15 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:55:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span>test visual <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 22 jun 2020 22:55 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:55:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:56:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:55:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-06-22T20:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:55:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:56:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:55:00.000Z"></span>test source <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 22 jun 2020 22:56 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:56:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:57:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:56:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-06-22T20:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:56:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:55:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:57:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:56:00.000Z"></span>text formatting</b>  <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 22 jun 2020 22:57 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:57:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:58:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:57:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-06-22T20:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:57:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:56:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><i><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:58:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:57:00.000Z"></span>text formatting visual</b></i> <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 22 jun 2020 22:58 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:58:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:59:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:58:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-06-22T20:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:58:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:57:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><sub><s><code><u><small><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:59:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:58:00.000Z"></span>superscript</small></u></code></s></sub> <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 22 jun 2020 22:59 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:59:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:59:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:59:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-06-22T20:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:59:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:58:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:59:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:59:00.000Z"></span>switch to source and save</b> <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 22 jun 2020 22:59 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:59:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:01:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:59:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-06-22T20:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:59:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:59:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link" class="mw-disambig" title="Link"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:01:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:59:00.000Z"></span>Link</a> <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 22 jun 2020 23:01 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:9,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:01:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:03:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-06-22T21:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:01:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:59:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:03:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:01:00.000Z"></span>reply to @<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a>  <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 22 jun 2020 23:03 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:10,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:03:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:03:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-06-22T21:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:03:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:01:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:03:00.000Z"></span>unwatch visual <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 22 jun 2020 23:09 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:11,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:03:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z"></span>watch visual <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 22 jun 2020 23:09 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:12,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z"></span>visual unwatch <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 7 aug 2020 02:23 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:13,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:24:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:24:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z"></span>switch to source and save <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 7 aug 2020 02:24 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:14,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:24:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-08-07T00:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:24:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z"></span>three <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 18 nov 2020 01:15 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:13,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:56:00.000Z"></span>six <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 18 nov 2020 01:15 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd>@<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 22 okt 2020 20:50 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:50:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-10-22T18:50:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:50:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:48:00.000Z"></span></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:48:00.000Z"></span>two <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 18 nov 2020 01:15 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:48:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-22T18:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:55:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span>test visual <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 22 jun 2020 22:55 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:55:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:56:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:55:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-06-22T20:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:55:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:56:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:55:00.000Z"></span>test source <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 22 jun 2020 22:56 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:56:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:55:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:57:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:56:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-06-22T20:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:56:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:55:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:57:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:56:00.000Z"></span>text formatting</b>  <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 22 jun 2020 22:57 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:57:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:58:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:57:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-06-22T20:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:57:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:56:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><i><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:58:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:57:00.000Z"></span>text formatting visual</b></i> <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 22 jun 2020 22:58 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:58:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:59:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:58:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-06-22T20:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:58:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:57:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><sub><s><code><u><small><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:59:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:58:00.000Z"></span>superscript</small></u></code></s></sub> <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 22 jun 2020 22:59 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:59:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:58:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:59:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:59:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-06-22T20:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:59:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:58:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:59:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:59:00.000Z"></span>switch to source and save</b> <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 22 jun 2020 22:59 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:8,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:59:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:01:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:59:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-06-22T20:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:59:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:59:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link" class="mw-disambig" title="Link"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:01:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:59:00.000Z"></span>Link</a> <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 22 jun 2020 23:01 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:9,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:01:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:59:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:03:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:01:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-06-22T21:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:01:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:59:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:03:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:01:00.000Z"></span>reply to @<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a>  <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 22 jun 2020 23:03 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:10,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:03:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:03:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-06-22T21:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:03:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:01:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:03:00.000Z"></span>unwatch visual <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 22 jun 2020 23:09 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:11,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:03:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z"></span>watch visual <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 22 jun 2020 23:09 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:12,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z"></span>visual unwatch <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 7 aug 2020 02:23 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:13,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:24:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:24:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z"></span>switch to source and save <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 7 aug 2020 02:24 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:14,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:24:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-08-07T00:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:24:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z"></span>three <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 18 nov 2020 01:15 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:13,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T21:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:56:00.000Z"></span>six <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 18 nov 2020 01:15 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:56:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-06-22T20:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
 <dd><i><b><sub><s><code><u><big><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span>bold</big></u></code></s></sub></b></i></dd>
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-<dd>@<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 7 aug 2020 02:23 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-26T17:04:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z"></span>source unwatch <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 7 aug 2020 02:23 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z|1&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z|1"></span>source watch <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 7 aug 2020 02:23 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z|1&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-26T17:03:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z|1"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-26T17:03:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z"></span>test reply <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 26 okt 2020 18:03 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-26T17:03:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-10-26T17:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-26T17:03:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-26T17:04:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z"></span>reply to the parent comment <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 26 okt 2020 18:04 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-26T17:04:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-26T17:04:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-10-26T17:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-26T17:04:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-26T17:04:00.000Z"></span>four <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 18 nov 2020 01:15 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-26T17:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-26T17:04:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-04-09T23:57:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span>test 2 <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 01:57 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-04-09T23:57:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T23:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-04-09T23:57:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dd>@<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 7 aug 2020 02:23 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-26T17:04:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z"></span>source unwatch <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 7 aug 2020 02:23 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z|1&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z|1"></span>source watch <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 7 aug 2020 02:23 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z|1&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-26T17:03:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z|1"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-26T17:03:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z"></span>test reply <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 26 okt 2020 18:03 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-26T17:03:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-10-26T17:03:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-26T17:03:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-26T17:04:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z"></span>reply to the parent comment <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 26 okt 2020 18:04 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-26T17:04:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-26T17:04:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-10-26T17:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-26T17:04:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-08-07T00:23:00.000Z"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-26T17:04:00.000Z"></span>four <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 18 nov 2020 01:15 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-26T17:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-10-26T17:04:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd>
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-04-09T23:57:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span>test 2 <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 01:57 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-04-09T23:57:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T23:57:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-04-09T23:57:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|1"></span>Goed idee! Of verwijzen naar die 2 pagina's in de Wikipedia-naamruimte...<br/>
-Is 't misschien ook handig om de etalage-kandidaten, overleg gewenst e.d. in een message op te nemen? - <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|1&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|1"></span>
+Is 't misschien ook handig om de etalage-kandidaten, overleg gewenst e.d. in een message op te nemen? - <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|1&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|1"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span>Ik dacht zelf aan 3 à 5 berichtjes (eventeel met zo'n msg) op te nemen op deze pagina en voor de rest te verwijzen naar de 2-bestaande pagina's. Wel of niet msg's voor bepaalde items maakt mij niet zoveel uit. <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span>Ik dacht zelf aan 3 à 5 berichtjes (eventeel met zo'n msg) op te nemen op deze pagina en voor de rest te verwijzen naar de 2-bestaande pagina's. Wel of niet msg's voor bepaalde items maakt mij niet zoveel uit. <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|2"></span>Beste,
 het artikel 'Klankschaal' wil ik voorzien van een foto (eigen werk dat ik graag aan Wikipedia schenk) Hoe ga ik te werk?
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+--<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|2&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|1&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|2"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|1"></span>Simpel, je kan het plaatje van je computer opladen, met 'upload' linksonder in het menu. Verwijs in je artikel met wiki-links (blokhaken) naar je artikel.<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|1&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|1"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span>five <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 18 nov 2020 01:15 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|1"></span>Simpel, je kan het plaatje van je computer opladen, met 'upload' linksonder in het menu. Verwijs in je artikel met wiki-links (blokhaken) naar je artikel.<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|1&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|1"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span>five <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">RYasmeen (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:RYasmeen_(WMF)#top" title="Overleg gebruiker:RYasmeen (WMF)">overleg</a>) 18 nov 2020 01:15 (CET)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;RYasmeen (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|RYasmeen (WMF)|2020-11-18T00:15:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|3"></span>Heee! Wat is er gebeurd met het 'gewenste artikelen (naar wens)'?? Akkoord, dat werd niet zo vaak gebruikt door de meeste mensen hier, maar door mij wel! Jammer dat het weg is! Zou het wellicht weer teruggeplaatst kunnen worden?? Desnoods met een iets andere opzet (daar wil ik me dan wel op storten)!! (de 'duimpjes' vind ik overigens erg goed!!!)<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|3&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|3"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|3"></span>Heee! Wat is er gebeurd met het 'gewenste artikelen (naar wens)'?? Akkoord, dat werd niet zo vaak gebruikt door de meeste mensen hier, maar door mij wel! Jammer dat het weg is! Zou het wellicht weer teruggeplaatst kunnen worden?? Desnoods met een iets andere opzet (daar wil ik me dan wel op storten)!! (de 'duimpjes' vind ik overigens erg goed!!!)<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|3&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|3"></span>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|4"></span>Heb een en ander opgeruimd hier. Maar er mag m.i. nog wel wat verbeterd worden, het is toch een soort visitekaartje deze pagina voor beginnende gebruikers. Ik vind het nog steeds een beetje rommelig... <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|4&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|4"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|4"></span>Heb een en ander opgeruimd hier. Maar er mag m.i. nog wel wat verbeterd worden, het is toch een soort visitekaartje deze pagina voor beginnende gebruikers. Ik vind het nog steeds een beetje rommelig... <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|4&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|4"></span>
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 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|5"></span>Vraagje : zojuist heb ik van het Gebruikersportaal het woord <u>Huh</u> verwijderd, dat er om 17.41 vandaag door 62.21.62.385 bijgezet was, precies voor het welkom, dus dat viel nogal op :) 
-Valt dit onder vandalisme ? Zo nee, moet het gemeld worden ? Zo ja, moet een moderator daarvan op de hoogte gesteld worden ? Bij voorbaat dank, <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|5&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|2&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|5"></span>
+Valt dit onder vandalisme ? Zo nee, moet het gemeld worden ? Zo ja, moet een moderator daarvan op de hoogte gesteld worden ? Bij voorbaat dank, <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|5&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|2&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|5"></span>
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 <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|2"></span>Hallo M@rgo, goed gedaan. Wat wij hier altijd doen is dan het sjabloon  {{waarschuwing}} op de pagina van de anonieme gebruiker plaatsen, met een toelichting meestal in deze vorm:</dd></dl>
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-<dl><dd>Dan weet iedereen dat deze persoon éénmaal vandalisisme heeft gepleegd; meestal krijgt deze persoon de 2e keer een blokkade van een dag ofzo aan zijn broek. Zo'n blokkade kan alleen door een van de 30 moderators worden gedaan, de waarschuwingen mag iedereen geven! Graag zelfs! Groet en veel succes verder, <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST) P.S. je kan ook het sjabloon  {{zandbak}}  geven als je denkt dat het niet opzettelijk gespeel met knoppen ofzo is.<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|2&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|3&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|2"></span></dd></dl>
-<dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|3"></span>Dank je wel :) Zal ik zo doen. <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|3&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|3"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd>Dan weet iedereen dat deze persoon éénmaal vandalisisme heeft gepleegd; meestal krijgt deze persoon de 2e keer een blokkade van een dag ofzo aan zijn broek. Zo'n blokkade kan alleen door een van de 30 moderators worden gedaan, de waarschuwingen mag iedereen geven! Graag zelfs! Groet en veel succes verder, <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST) P.S. je kan ook het sjabloon  {{zandbak}}  geven als je denkt dat het niet opzettelijk gespeel met knoppen ofzo is.<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|2&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|3&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|2"></span></dd></dl>
+<dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|3"></span>Dank je wel :) Zal ik zo doen. <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|3&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|3"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>
 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|6"></span>Is het geen leuk idee om bijvoorbeeld een poëzie-wiki op te zetten, bij wijze van experiment. Daarbij is dan de bedoeling dat er gaandeweg een gedich of verhaal (evt. op rijm) wordt ontwikkeld. Of bestaat zoiets al? Ben benieuwd!
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-<p>Onderaan de pagina staat een link naar <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikiproject/Gemeenten" title="Wikipedia:Wikiproject/Gemeenten">Project gemeenten</a>. Gezien de geschiedenis van die pagina is er de laatste 18 maanden niets meer aan gedaan. Bovendien denk ik dat (bijna) alle gemeenten in België en Nederland intussen een artikel is. Hoewel soms wat mager, lijkt het me dat dit project van de pagina 'Gebruikersportaal' verwijderd kan worden. <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|6&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|6"></span>
+<p>Onderaan de pagina staat een link naar <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikiproject/Gemeenten" title="Wikipedia:Wikiproject/Gemeenten">Project gemeenten</a>. Gezien de geschiedenis van die pagina is er de laatste 18 maanden niets meer aan gedaan. Bovendien denk ik dat (bijna) alle gemeenten in België en Nederland intussen een artikel is. Hoewel soms wat mager, lijkt het me dat dit project van de pagina 'Gebruikersportaal' verwijderd kan worden. <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|6&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|6"></span>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Collaboration"></span>A new attempt to get the <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation" title="Wikimedia Foundation">Wikimedia</a> community to collaborate on multi-lingual tasks is the <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_COTW" class="extiw" title="m:Wikimedia COTW">Wikimedia Collaboration of the Week</a>. Please see the page on meta for details. It would be great if you could translate the following and add it to. The text below is from <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Wm-cotw" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Wm-cotw">en:Template:Wm-cotw</a> and will be updated every week. Thanks. <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Collaboration&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Collaboration"></span>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Collaboration"></span>A new attempt to get the <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation" title="Wikimedia Foundation">Wikimedia</a> community to collaborate on multi-lingual tasks is the <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_COTW" class="extiw" title="m:Wikimedia COTW">Wikimedia Collaboration of the Week</a>. Please see the page on meta for details. It would be great if you could translate the following and add it to. The text below is from <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Wm-cotw" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Wm-cotw">en:Template:Wm-cotw</a> and will be updated every week. Thanks. <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Collaboration&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Collaboration"></span>
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-<dl><dd><dl><dd>Hi, Angela. I translated the template and I will put it on the Portal now (see below for the template) — <b><font color="#11278F"> <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST) </font></b> <small><font color="#11278F"> <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)</font><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Collaboration|1"></span></small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Collaboration|1&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd></dl></dd></dl><small><font color="#11278F"><div style="width:50%;">
+<dl><dd><dl><dd>Hi, Angela. I translated the template and I will put it on the Portal now (see below for the template) — <b><font color="#11278F"> <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST) </font></b> <small><font color="#11278F"> <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)</font><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Collaboration|1"></span></small><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Wikimedia_Collaboration|1&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd></dl></dd></dl><small><font color="#11278F"><div style="width:50%;">
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-</div></font></small><small><font color="#11278F"><h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Over_interne_links" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Over_interne_links|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Over_interne_links&quot;,&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Over_interne_links|1&quot;,&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Over_interne_links|2&quot;,&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Over_interne_links|3&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Over_interne_links|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span>Over interne links<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Over_interne_links|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span></span></h2></font></small><small><font color="#11278F"><p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Over_interne_links"></span>Ik heb een beetje zitten hannessen met artikelen over het <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glad_endoplasmatisch_reticulum" class="mw-redirect" title="Glad endoplasmatisch reticulum">glad</a> en <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruw_endoplasmatisch_reticulum" class="mw-redirect" title="Ruw endoplasmatisch reticulum">ruw</a> endoplasmatisch reticulum, waarna ik er achter kwam dat er een erg inconsequent groepje van artikelen was ontstaan rond <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organel" title="Organel">organel</a>. Ik heb daarom een stukje op mijn <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST) gezet waarin ik verkondig hoe ik denk dat dat soort problemen kunnen worden voorkomen. Ik nodig iedereen uit om daarover mee te discussiëren; op <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg:Endoplasmatisch_reticulum" title="Overleg:Endoplasmatisch reticulum">overleg:endoplasmatisch reticulum</a> als het specifiek over het artikel gaat, of op <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST) als je van gedachten wilt wisselen over het principe.<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Over_interne_links&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Over_interne_links"></span>
-</p><p><a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Over_interne_links|1"></span>PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Over_interne_links|1&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Over_interne_links|1"></span>
+</div></font></small><small><font color="#11278F"><h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Over_interne_links" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Over_interne_links|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Over_interne_links&quot;,&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Over_interne_links|1&quot;,&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Over_interne_links|2&quot;,&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Over_interne_links|3&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Over_interne_links|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span>Over interne links<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Over_interne_links|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span></span></h2></font></small><small><font color="#11278F"><p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Over_interne_links"></span>Ik heb een beetje zitten hannessen met artikelen over het <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glad_endoplasmatisch_reticulum" class="mw-redirect" title="Glad endoplasmatisch reticulum">glad</a> en <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruw_endoplasmatisch_reticulum" class="mw-redirect" title="Ruw endoplasmatisch reticulum">ruw</a> endoplasmatisch reticulum, waarna ik er achter kwam dat er een erg inconsequent groepje van artikelen was ontstaan rond <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organel" title="Organel">organel</a>. Ik heb daarom een stukje op mijn <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST) gezet waarin ik verkondig hoe ik denk dat dat soort problemen kunnen worden voorkomen. Ik nodig iedereen uit om daarover mee te discussiëren; op <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg:Endoplasmatisch_reticulum" title="Overleg:Endoplasmatisch reticulum">overleg:endoplasmatisch reticulum</a> als het specifiek over het artikel gaat, of op <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST) als je van gedachten wilt wisselen over het principe.<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Over_interne_links&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Over_interne_links"></span>
+</p><p><a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)"><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Over_interne_links|1"></span>PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Over_interne_links|1&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Over_interne_links|1"></span>
 </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Over_interne_links|2"></span>Kan iemand me trouwens uitleggen hoe je een link naar een speciek deel van een pagina kunt laten afbuigen, zoals ik geprobeerd heb in de link naar mijn overlegpagina?
-</p><p><a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Over_interne_links|2&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|4&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Over_interne_links|2"></span>
-</p></font></small><small><font color="#11278F"><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|4"></span>Zoals je het net deed, denk ik ;-), of bedoel je iets anders? <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|4&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|4"></span></dd></dl></font></small><small><font color="#11278F"><p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Over_interne_links|3"></span>Nee, dat was wel wat ik bedoelde. Het werkt bij mij alleen niet...<br/> <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Over_interne_links|3&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Over_interne_links|3"></span>
-</p></font></small><small><font color="#11278F"><h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Kopenhagen" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Kopenhagen|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Kopenhagen&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Kopenhagen|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span>Kopenhagen<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Kopenhagen|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span></span></h2></font></small><small><font color="#11278F"><p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Kopenhagen"></span>Sinds ik gebruiker ben staat Kopenhagen hier la kan beter, wellicht staat het daar al nog langer. Zal niet beweren dat het niet meer beter kan, maar het lijkt mij onderhand wel tijd voor wat andere artikels op deze plaats <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Kopenhagen&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|5&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Kopenhagen"></span>
-</p></font></small><small><font color="#11278F"><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|5"></span>Toevallig kwam ik vandaag op het artikel over Joop den Uyl, lijkt mij een artikel dat echt beter kan. <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|5&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|6&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|5"></span>
+</p><p><a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Over_interne_links|2&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|4&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Over_interne_links|2"></span>
+</p></font></small><small><font color="#11278F"><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|4"></span>Zoals je het net deed, denk ik ;-), of bedoel je iets anders? <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|4&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|4"></span></dd></dl></font></small><small><font color="#11278F"><p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Over_interne_links|3"></span>Nee, dat was wel wat ik bedoelde. Het werkt bij mij alleen niet...<br/> <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Over_interne_links|3&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Over_interne_links|3"></span>
+</p></font></small><small><font color="#11278F"><h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Kopenhagen" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Kopenhagen|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Kopenhagen&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Kopenhagen|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span>Kopenhagen<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Kopenhagen|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span></span></h2></font></small><small><font color="#11278F"><p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Kopenhagen"></span>Sinds ik gebruiker ben staat Kopenhagen hier la kan beter, wellicht staat het daar al nog langer. Zal niet beweren dat het niet meer beter kan, maar het lijkt mij onderhand wel tijd voor wat andere artikels op deze plaats <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Kopenhagen&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|5&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Kopenhagen"></span>
+</p></font></small><small><font color="#11278F"><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|5"></span>Toevallig kwam ik vandaag op het artikel over Joop den Uyl, lijkt mij een artikel dat echt beter kan. <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|5&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|6&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|5"></span>
 <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|6"></span>Er mag hier idd wel een flinke schoonmaaksctie plaatsvinden. ik weet zeker dat alle arikelen hier niet meer corresponderen met de oorspronkelijke bedoeling van het plaatsen van deze artikelen op deze pagina.
-<dl><dd>Dit is zeker een stuk beter. <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)(CEST) Vergeten in te loggen: <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|6&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|6"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></font></small><small><font color="#11278F"><h2><span class="mw-headline" id="logo" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|logo&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|logo"></span>logo<span data-mw-comment-end="h|logo"></span></span></h2></font></small><small><font color="#11278F"><h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Nieuwe_layout" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Nieuwe_layout|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Nieuwe_layout&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Nieuwe_layout|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span>Nieuwe layout<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Nieuwe_layout|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span></span></h2></font></small><small><font color="#11278F"><p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Nieuwe_layout"></span>Ik heb het onoverzichtelijke, rommelige design vervangen naar een (naar mijn mening) overzichtelijkere stijl. Maak wijzigingen als je iets ziet dat je liever anders hebt ;-) —<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Nieuwe_layout&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|7&quot;,&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|9&quot;,&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|11&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Nieuwe_layout"></span>
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-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|8"></span>Aan de kleuren? — <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|8&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|8"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></font></small><small><font color="#11278F"><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|9"></span>Het ziet er mooi uit Empoor <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bestand:Smile.png" class="image"><img alt="Smile.png" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/26/Smile.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" data-file-width="20" data-file-height="20"/></a> <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|9&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|10&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|9"></span></dd></dl></font></small><small><font color="#11278F"><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|10"></span>Thnx :-) Hier en daar zijn er nog wel wat dingen die verbeterd kunnen worden — <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|10&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|10"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></font></small><small><font color="#11278F"><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|11"></span>Voor mij ook even wennen, iets minder 'Wiki-stijl' dan ik gewend ben (als je begrijpt wat ik bedoel). "Wikipedia in het nieuws" (niet te verwarren met "Wikipedia-nieuws") en "Mijlpalen" zouden er w.m.b. uit mogen. <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|11&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|12&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|11"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|12"></span>Snap het. Heb Wikipedia-nieuws veranderd in <b>Intern nieuws over Wikipedia en Wikimedia</b> (beetje lang, maar zegt het wel gelijk precies). Tsja, mijlpalen.. Sommige zijn belangrijk, sommige niet, naar mijn mening. — <b><font color="#11278F"> <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)</font></b><font color="#11278F"><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|12&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|13&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|12"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|13"></span>@ Empoor. Vooral de kleuren idd. Ik bedoel het niet zo negatief, maar wennen is de juiste woordkeuze denk ik. Op zich wel "<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Verfrissend&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Verfrissend (de pagina bestaat niet)">verfrissend</a>". <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|13&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|14&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|13"></span></dd></dl></font></dd></dl></dd></dl></font></small><small><font color="#11278F"><font color="#11278F"><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|14"></span>Wat is er trouwens mis met de mijlpaal 5.000 artikelen? Zij we dat vergeten? <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|14&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|15&quot;,&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|17&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|14"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|15"></span>@ Mig de Jong: Nee, ik snap het. Het zijn niet de eerste de beste kleuren die je overal ziet op Wiki, hehe. Ik kan de gele kleur wel iets neutraler maken, door hem wat meer grijstinten te geven. Dat geeft misschien een rustiger beeld. — <b><font color="#11278F"> <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)</font></b><font color="#11278F"><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|15&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|16&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|15"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|16"></span>Neutralere kleur geel toegevoegd — <b><font color="#11278F"> <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)</font><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|16"></span></b><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|16&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd></dl></font></dd><font color="#11278F"><font color="#11278F">
-<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|17"></span>Niet om al te kritisch over te komen, maar ik denk dat ik de harde kleuren blauw iets heftger vond. Op zich niet mis mee, maar er was ook weinig mis met het geel. Het heeft nu wel iets neutralers. <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|17&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|18&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|17"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|18"></span>Kritisch zijn is altijd goed, zeker als het om iets gaat dat vaak geraadpleegd wordt. Mmmmm, zal straks even kijken naar die blauw. — <b><font color="#11278F"><a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)</font><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|18"></span></b><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|18&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd></dl></dd></font></font></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></font></font></small>
+<dl><dd>Dit is zeker een stuk beter. <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)(CEST) Vergeten in te loggen: <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|6&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|6"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></font></small><small><font color="#11278F"><h2><span class="mw-headline" id="logo" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|logo&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|logo"></span>logo<span data-mw-comment-end="h|logo"></span></span></h2></font></small><small><font color="#11278F"><h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Nieuwe_layout" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h|Nieuwe_layout|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Nieuwe_layout&quot;],&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;placeholderHeading&quot;:false}"><span data-mw-comment-start="h|Nieuwe_layout|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span>Nieuwe layout<span data-mw-comment-end="h|Nieuwe_layout|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z"></span></span></h2></font></small><small><font color="#11278F"><p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Nieuwe_layout"></span>Ik heb het onoverzichtelijke, rommelige design vervangen naar een (naar mijn mening) overzichtelijkere stijl. Maak wijzigingen als je iets ziet dat je liever anders hebt ;-) —<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Nieuwe_layout&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|7&quot;,&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|9&quot;,&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|11&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|Nieuwe_layout"></span>
+</p></font></small><small><font color="#11278F"><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|7"></span>Ik moet even wennen... <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|7&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|8&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|7"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|8"></span>Aan de kleuren? — <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|8&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|8"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></font></small><small><font color="#11278F"><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|9"></span>Het ziet er mooi uit Empoor <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bestand:Smile.png" class="image"><img alt="Smile.png" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/26/Smile.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" data-file-width="20" data-file-height="20"/></a> <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|9&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|10&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|9"></span></dd></dl></font></small><small><font color="#11278F"><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|10"></span>Thnx :-) Hier en daar zijn er nog wel wat dingen die verbeterd kunnen worden — <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|10&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|10"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></font></small><small><font color="#11278F"><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|11"></span>Voor mij ook even wennen, iets minder 'Wiki-stijl' dan ik gewend ben (als je begrijpt wat ik bedoel). "Wikipedia in het nieuws" (niet te verwarren met "Wikipedia-nieuws") en "Mijlpalen" zouden er w.m.b. uit mogen. <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|11&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|12&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|11"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|12"></span>Snap het. Heb Wikipedia-nieuws veranderd in <b>Intern nieuws over Wikipedia en Wikimedia</b> (beetje lang, maar zegt het wel gelijk precies). Tsja, mijlpalen.. Sommige zijn belangrijk, sommige niet, naar mijn mening. — <b><font color="#11278F"> <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)</font></b><font color="#11278F"><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:3,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|12&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|13&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|12"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|13"></span>@ Empoor. Vooral de kleuren idd. Ik bedoel het niet zo negatief, maar wennen is de juiste woordkeuze denk ik. Op zich wel "<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Verfrissend&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Verfrissend (de pagina bestaat niet)">verfrissend</a>". <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:4,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|13&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|14&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|13"></span></dd></dl></font></dd></dl></dd></dl></font></small><small><font color="#11278F"><font color="#11278F"><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|14"></span>Wat is er trouwens mis met de mijlpaal 5.000 artikelen? Zij we dat vergeten? <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:5,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|14&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|15&quot;,&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|17&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|14"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|15"></span>@ Mig de Jong: Nee, ik snap het. Het zijn niet de eerste de beste kleuren die je overal ziet op Wiki, hehe. Ik kan de gele kleur wel iets neutraler maken, door hem wat meer grijstinten te geven. Dat geeft misschien een rustiger beeld. — <b><font color="#11278F"> <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)</font></b><font color="#11278F"><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|15&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|16&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|15"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|16"></span>Neutralere kleur geel toegevoegd — <b><font color="#11278F"> <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)</font><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|16"></span></b><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|16&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd></dl></font></dd><font color="#11278F"><font color="#11278F">
+<dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|17"></span>Niet om al te kritisch over te komen, maar ik denk dat ik de harde kleuren blauw iets heftger vond. Op zich niet mis mee, maar er was ook weinig mis met het geel. Het heeft nu wel iets neutralers. <a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:6,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|17&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|18&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|17"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|18"></span>Kritisch zijn is altijd goed, zeker als het om iets gaat dat vaak geraadpleegd wordt. Mmmmm, zal straks even kijken naar die blauw. — <b><font color="#11278F"><a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="//nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="Overleg gebruiker:PPelberg (WMF)">overleg</a>) 10 apr 2020 00:31 (CEST)</font><span data-mw-comment-end="c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|18"></span></b><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:7,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|PPelberg (WMF)|2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z|18&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-04-09T22:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;PPelberg (WMF)&quot;}" href="">reageer</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd></dl></dd></font></font></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></font></font></small>
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-<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|paragraph"></span>blah blah <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 23:19, 22 January 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|paragraph&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|paragraph"></span></p>
+<p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|paragraph"></span>blah blah <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 23:19, 22 January 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|paragraph&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|paragraph"></span></p>
 
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+<pre><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|preformatted"></span>blah blah <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 23:19, 22 January 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|preformatted&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|preformatted"></span></pre>
 
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-blah blah <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 23:19, 22 January 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|two_divs_with_one_comment&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|two_divs_with_one_comment"></span>
+blah blah <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 23:19, 22 January 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|two_divs_with_one_comment&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|two_divs_with_one_comment"></span>
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 <i><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|div_with_one_comment-htmlcomments"></span>hello</i><br/>
-<small>blah blah <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 23:19, 22 January 2020 (UTC)</small><!-- blah --><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|div_with_one_comment-htmlcomments&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|div_with_one_comment-htmlcomments"></span>
+<small>blah blah <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 23:19, 22 January 2020 (UTC)</small><!-- blah --><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|div_with_one_comment-htmlcomments&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|div_with_one_comment-htmlcomments"></span>
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-blah blah <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 23:19, 22 January 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|two_divs_with_one_comment-htmlcomments&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|two_divs_with_one_comment-htmlcomments"></span>
+blah blah <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 23:19, 22 January 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|two_divs_with_one_comment-htmlcomments&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|two_divs_with_one_comment-htmlcomments"></span>
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 <p><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|div_with_one_comment-list_end"></span>hello</p>
-<ul><li>blah blah <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 23:19, 22 January 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|div_with_one_comment-list_end&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|div_with_one_comment-list_end"></span></li></ul>
+<ul><li>blah blah <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 23:19, 22 January 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|div_with_one_comment-list_end&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|div_with_one_comment-list_end"></span></li></ul>
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 <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|div_with_one_comment-list_start"></span>hello</li></ul>
-<p>blah blah <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 23:19, 22 January 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|div_with_one_comment-list_start&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|div_with_one_comment-list_start"></span></p>
+<p>blah blah <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 23:19, 22 January 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|div_with_one_comment-list_start&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|div_with_one_comment-list_start"></span></p>
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-blah blah <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 23:19, 22 January 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|table_with_one_comment&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|table_with_one_comment"></span>
+blah blah <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 23:19, 22 January 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|table_with_one_comment&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|table_with_one_comment"></span>
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-blah blah <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 23:19, 22 January 2020 (UTC)<span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|div_with_multiple_comments|1"></span><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|div_with_multiple_comments&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|div_with_multiple_comments"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z"></span>blah blah <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 23:19, 22 January 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
-blah blah <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 23:19, 22 January 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|div_with_multiple_comments|1&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|div_with_multiple_comments|1"></span>
+blah blah <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 23:19, 22 January 2020 (UTC)<span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|div_with_multiple_comments|1"></span><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|div_with_multiple_comments&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|div_with_multiple_comments"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z"></span>blah blah <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 23:19, 22 January 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>
+blah blah <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 23:19, 22 January 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|div_with_multiple_comments|1&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|div_with_multiple_comments|1"></span>
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-blah blah <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 23:19, 22 January 2020 (UTC)<span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|table_with_multiple_comments|1"></span><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|table_with_multiple_comments&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|1&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|table_with_multiple_comments"></span>
-<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|1"></span>blah blah <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 23:19, 22 January 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|1&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|1"></span></dd></dl>
-blah blah <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 23:19, 22 January 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|table_with_multiple_comments|1&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|table_with_multiple_comments|1"></span>
+blah blah <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 23:19, 22 January 2020 (UTC)<span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|table_with_multiple_comments|1"></span><span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|table_with_multiple_comments&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|1&quot;],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|table_with_multiple_comments"></span>
+<dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|1"></span>blah blah <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 23:19, 22 January 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:2,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|1&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|1"></span></dd></dl>
+blah blah <b><a href="/wiki/User:Matma_Rex" title="User:Matma Rex">Matma Rex</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matma_Rex" title="User talk:Matma Rex">talk</a></b> 23:19, 22 January 2020 (UTC)<span class="dt-init-replylink-buttons"><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="dt-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" data-mw-comment="{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;comment&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:1,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|table_with_multiple_comments|1&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[],&quot;timestamp&quot;:&quot;2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:&quot;Matma Rex&quot;}" href="">reply</a><span class="dt-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c|Matma Rex|2020-01-22T23:19:00.000Z|table_with_multiple_comments|1"></span>
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